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Previously on Criminal
Minds: Evolution...
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I used your birth name
and you didn't even notice.
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This is where Lee Duval died
and where Elias Voit was born.
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Do you feel in your heart of
hearts that you're a good person?
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I feel like I can be.
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I wouldn't trouble you were it
not of the utmost importance.
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What is it you think you have?
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Dare I say a manifesto.
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"Some may call me a fan,
but He must call me God."
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- Hello, Brian.
- Whoa. Special guest appearance?
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Do not say one word
about him being here.
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Hi, you're live on the air.
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With whom do we have
the pleasure of speaking?
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Call me God.
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"Are you trying to profile me?"
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I'm not speaking to you.
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I'm speaking to Lance Kingston,
the man you're holding captive.
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Penelope, talk to me.
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Okay, I got him. I got him.
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He's at the Stash-All Storage
Facility in Richmond, Virginia.
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It's a garage unit being
rented by Lance Kingston.
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- Is he there?
- Is who here?
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- Voit.
- No.
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Stop! He's gonna kill me.
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- Yes, he's here.
- No!
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Voit is here! Elias Voit is here.
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You can talk to him.
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_
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What just happened?
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You just caused a man's death.
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We've got roadblocks up in
a five and ten mile radius.
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We might have a victim inside,
and he might still be alive.
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FBI, open up!
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Oh, Jesus.
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Is that...
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It's flesh.
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Burnt flesh.
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He's been branded.
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The residual smoke from the burn
would only last five to ten minutes.
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Well, then the Fan
couldn't have gotten far.
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Let's go.
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- You find a pulse?
- It's there.
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It's weak and thready, but it's there.
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Do not seek to follow in
the footsteps of the wise.
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Seek what they sought.
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Matsuo Bashō.
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Lance Kingston is alive.
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Oh!
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Thank God!
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Oh!
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Oh... Oh!
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Sheila said this.
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She said this... right
before she left me.
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She said, "You're going
to get somebody hurt."
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And then it came true. She was right.
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I don't know how it happened,
but she was right. Ah!
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Pfft.
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I am done.
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No more Sicarius Files.
No more conspiracies.
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I am out for real.
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- For real?
- Absolutely!
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What happened to Lance is gonna weigh
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on my heart for the rest of my life.
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Oh, I'm sorry to say this, but
I'm very happy to hear that.
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I'm kinda over-leveraged right now
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because of the success of the podcast.
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I was okay before the
money or the perks,
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I mean, I'll... find a
way to be fine again.
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Yeah.
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Wait,
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did you throw up in here?
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I was literally sick with worry.
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Emily, I'm so sorry.
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Bill me for a new one,
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like a fancy one.
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Ugh.
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Is Brian Garrity moonlighting
as a janitor for the FBI?
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No.
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He is not moonlighting
as anything anymore.
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Good, because we just got this.
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Mm-hmm.
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Look at this.
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What's this?
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Crime scene report from the
storage locker where we found Lance.
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Well, it's pristine.
Is this post-forensics?
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This is the forensics.
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No fibers, no hair, no nothing.
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And based on the Fan's OCD,
I doubt he left any trace.
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Which means you probably
struck out too, didn't you?
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Yeah, I did.
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The Fan paid for the storage
unit in cash under Lance's name,
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and the rental agreement was typed up
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on the same typewriter we know so well.
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Which he also used when
he escalated to this.
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There are eight letters
in the word pathetic,
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so the Fan put eight brands
on each of Lance's arms.
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Oh.
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What?
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This is the most detailed
MO we've seen from the Fan.
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Does he still strike you as a
"hasn't killed yet" type unsub?
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No, he doesn't.
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So why didn't he kill Lance?
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There you go.
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Doesn't hurt.
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Why doesn't it hurt?
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Third degree burns destroy
the nerves in your skin,
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including your pain receptors.
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Lance, anything you can remember
about what happened from the moment
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you were abducted will help us
catch the person who did this to you.
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I woke up.
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I was facing a monitor.
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He told me to read off it.
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That's all he said.
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Is this because of Laura?
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What do you mean?
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First time you questioned
me was because...
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because I was being an asshole
to Laura after she dumped me.
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Is this all revenge for that?
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- It's complicated.
- Mmm.
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We think that he may have targeted you
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so that we were distracted
investigating you instead of him.
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Maybe I was pathetic.
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Maybe I still am.
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But I don't deserve this.
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No, you don't.
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So, anything you can remember...
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you contact me.
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And you can show him how not
pathetic you are on the witness stand.
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All right?
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We got another case.
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It doesn't stop.
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Of course we do. Where's this one?
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Right in our backyard, uh,
two women who made their living
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showing their wares on the internet
as camgirls have been murdered.
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Regina Madsen and Lexie Clery.
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Both were super popular streamers.
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Did they stream on the same site?
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No, different platforms.
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Camgirls stream from all over the world.
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How did the unsub find two
in the same geographical area?
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Well, if either girl made a video that
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showed outfacing windows or mentioned
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their location even vaguely, a good
tracker would be able to find them.
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Uh, like how we found Laura Boyd
using that tree in the background.
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- Mmm.
- Is it possible this is the Fan?
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He uses Lance to give us the
message he's not pathetic,
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and then leaves the dead bodies
of two camgirls to prove it?
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Well, don't jump to conclusions
yet. We don't know if it's connected.
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- Garcia, continue.
- Correctamundo.
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What we do know is that
last week Regina went live
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to show her dead body, and then
last night, same deal with Lexie.
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Wait, so now i-is this real money?
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Mm-hmm. Green American dollars.
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They both asphyxiated on it.
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That's a hell of a murder weapon.
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Based on the width of
the marks on their bodies,
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looks like both women were restrained
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with leather belts around their torsos.
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Easier for the unsub
to force-feed them.
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Can we source the leather?
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We could try if the unsub
hadn't taken the belts with him.
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Wait a minute, Lance Kingston said
he was restrained by leather belts
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and that the Fan took
them with him as well.
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And Lexie was murdered the
same night Lance was branded,
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less than ten miles away
from where we found him.
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Now let's jump to conclusions.
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There's a shared MO of
binding the victims with belts.
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You might see that, but definitely
not three times in one week.
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Displaying the bodies of the camgirls
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on a live stream speaks to a desire
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to get out a message, but it...
it's also a type of exhibitionism.
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It is similar to the Fan using Garrity's
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live podcast to exhibit his power.
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Okay, what's the opposing argument?
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Well, if both cases are the Fan,
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then his MO is all over the place.
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And what, the money
stuffed down the throats
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could be him making a statement
about the camgirls perceiving greed.
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That's very different
from branding "pathetic."
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Exactly. So, we have two
murders and one maiming.
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Some of the details overlap, some don't.
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So, we are going to go
where the evidence takes us.
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These are two different perpetrators.
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Dave, you and I will work on the Fan.
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The rest of you
investigate the camgirls,
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no matter what happens,
the clock is ticking.
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So, we need to move fast.
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- Penelope, can you come with me please?
- Yeah.
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I know I'm asking the impossible,
but I need you on both cases.
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- Can you do that?
- Absolutely.
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That means prioritization,
triage, and when necessary,
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you call an audible and ask for help.
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Uh, hi. I'm Penelope Garcia.
This is what I live for.
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I mean, I know that the gaggle of you
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is the John, Paul and George of
crime fighting, but I am the Ringo.
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You know, his birthday is July 7th.
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That means he's a Cancer
and I'm a Cancer rising,
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so we're the same
person, and I've got this.
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All right, I have the footage
of Lexie and her boyfriend Rocco.
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Let's run down the timeline.
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Lexie and Rocco had just
finished a performance.
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And the show was, "Hell if
the devil was a dominatrix."
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Yes.
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So, uh, looking at this, they did
the entire stream from right here.
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Bad boy.
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Lexie gives Rocco a final shock.
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- Ah. Red. Red.
- Uh.
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Rocco yells out the safe word
and they stop the performance.
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- Oh.
- Here.
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- Better?
- Oh. I'm good now.
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Lexie and Rocco always made it a point
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to show their audience
their aftercare routine.
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Our next show starts in an hour.
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Get in the room early and you might
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just get a special shout-out from me.
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And everything's fine.
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Uh, then Rocco leaves the apartment at
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ten o'clock to get them both some food.
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- See you later.
- I'll see you in a bit, beautiful.
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GPS on his phone has
him back here by 10:42.
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All right, let's go.
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All right.
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This unsub must have been
stalking Lexie online and off.
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He knew when her next show was,
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but he also knew to
wait until she was alone.
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Right, so the unsub watches
Rocco leave, sneaks in here.
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Lexie must have thought it was Rocco.
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Forget your wallet again?
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What?
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Get off of me!
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He restrains her.
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What are you doing?
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What do you want? No!
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And then he forces
the cash down her throat.
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That would've required an
incredible amount of effort and rage.
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She would have been choking
on the money, vomiting into it,
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but he didn't stop
even after she had died.
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When he finally finishes,
he removes the belt,
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turns on the camera, and he leaves.
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How much money was it?
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It's $1,976.
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Is there any specific order,
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one that maybe speaks
to an unsub with OCD?
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Oh, it doesn't get more OCD than this.
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Same denominations for each victim.
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Nineteen 100s, three 20s,
one ten, one five, one one.
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- They're all in sequential order.
- Mm-hmm.
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And Lexie's numbers pick
up where Regina's left off.
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Which is totally something
you guys can track, right?
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Well, if this were a money
laundering case, yeah,
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but it's not a crime to ask a
teller about sequential bills.
252
00:13:58,092 --> 00:13:59,175
Mmm.
253
00:13:59,176 --> 00:14:02,720
No, but it does speak to his
OCD and his level of means.
254
00:14:02,721 --> 00:14:05,474
I mean, he dropped nearly
$4,000 on two women.
255
00:14:06,016 --> 00:14:08,768
Okay, so whether or not this is the Fan,
256
00:14:08,769 --> 00:14:11,938
we need to figure out
what 1976 means to him.
257
00:14:11,939 --> 00:14:14,692
The Fan, is that Mr. Pathetic?
258
00:14:15,943 --> 00:14:18,070
Thank you, doc. We'll be in touch.
259
00:14:19,071 --> 00:14:20,531
That's not a no.
260
00:14:21,907 --> 00:14:25,785
Okay, forensics is still working
on matching the restraint marks
261
00:14:25,786 --> 00:14:28,621
on Lance's arms with that
of our poor camgirls...
262
00:14:28,622 --> 00:14:31,958
cam women, uh, but the width
is the same, 1.5 inches.
263
00:14:31,959 --> 00:14:33,292
That's most men's belts.
264
00:14:33,293 --> 00:14:37,255
Ergo, I have pivoted and
I'm using my focusing muscles
265
00:14:37,256 --> 00:14:39,924
to search for the typewriting
font on Lance's brands.
266
00:14:39,925 --> 00:14:41,426
Comparing typewriter serifs is
267
00:14:41,427 --> 00:14:43,386
how we helped build the
case against the Unabomber.
268
00:14:43,387 --> 00:14:47,116
The serif on Lance's
brand is bigger than
269
00:14:47,126 --> 00:14:49,100
the letters he wrote
to Voit and Garrity.
270
00:14:49,101 --> 00:14:51,519
- Could he have made it himself?
- Oh, that's doubtful.
271
00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,604
The typewriter bars,
the things that make that
272
00:14:53,605 --> 00:14:55,189
click-clacky on the paper, you know...
273
00:14:55,190 --> 00:14:57,400
We know what typewriter bars are.
274
00:14:57,401 --> 00:14:58,943
There's a lack of variation to them,
275
00:14:58,944 --> 00:15:03,573
but these letters are... are in
perfect proportion, you know, apart.
276
00:15:03,574 --> 00:15:05,533
Which means he took
the typewriter bars out
277
00:15:05,534 --> 00:15:08,037
of the typewriter to make
his own "pathetic" brand.
278
00:15:08,746 --> 00:15:11,539
Which when you step that out, it
does make sense with the OCD of it all
279
00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:13,435
because the typewriter he's using
280
00:15:13,445 --> 00:15:16,002
to write the letters to Voit and Garrity
281
00:15:16,003 --> 00:15:17,170
that's his old faithful,
282
00:15:17,171 --> 00:15:18,939
but the one he's using to make the
283
00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:20,757
brands, he's just scavenging for parts.
284
00:15:20,758 --> 00:15:23,421
So, all we'd like you
to do is track down
285
00:15:23,431 --> 00:15:27,430
the brand of the brand, no pun intended.
286
00:15:27,431 --> 00:15:30,266
Yes, no, I understand. And
ding-ding, uh, good news, um...
287
00:15:30,267 --> 00:15:32,268
The brands, the company kind, not the...
288
00:15:32,269 --> 00:15:35,688
You know what I'm saying,
they're available regionally.
289
00:15:35,689 --> 00:15:38,082
Typewriting is a dying art,
290
00:15:38,092 --> 00:15:40,902
and large typewriter faces
are rare and expensive.
291
00:15:40,903 --> 00:15:44,363
So-So he could have traded
with another collector.
292
00:15:44,364 --> 00:15:46,609
That means if we can figure
out where he bought it,
293
00:15:46,619 --> 00:15:48,202
we can use that to find him.
294
00:15:48,702 --> 00:15:50,203
Good work, Penelope.
295
00:15:51,330 --> 00:15:53,915
Uh, where are we with
the streaming sites?
296
00:15:53,916 --> 00:15:56,918
The... the streaming sites
that our two dead camgirls used.
297
00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:58,878
Is there any overlap with subscribers?
298
00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:02,215
Uh, yes. Uh. Yes, I have
a request in for that.
299
00:16:02,216 --> 00:16:03,841
You didn't forget, did you?
300
00:16:03,842 --> 00:16:05,343
No, of course not.
They're playing hardball.
301
00:16:05,344 --> 00:16:07,678
They don't want to admit that
they're hiding a serial killer,
302
00:16:07,679 --> 00:16:10,807
but I play a game I
like to call harder ball,
303
00:16:10,808 --> 00:16:14,394
which I'm going to play right now
in my office, running in my heels.
304
00:16:19,082 --> 00:16:20,227
Where are we?
305
00:16:20,238 --> 00:16:22,073
We're building a pro and con list.
306
00:16:22,236 --> 00:16:24,821
Pro, the Fan killed the
camgirls and maimed Lance.
307
00:16:24,822 --> 00:16:27,698
Con, Regina and Lexie were
killed by a separate unsub.
308
00:16:27,699 --> 00:16:29,408
Walk us through both arguments.
309
00:16:29,409 --> 00:16:33,454
On the pro side, the Fan's OCD
led to him using sequential bills,
310
00:16:33,455 --> 00:16:37,625
the leather belt restraints, and
the live stream spectacle of it all.
311
00:16:37,626 --> 00:16:38,709
And the con?
312
00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:40,628
The agendas are completely different.
313
00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:42,463
The Fan's agenda, it's about ego, right?
314
00:16:42,464 --> 00:16:43,548
It's a message to Voit.
315
00:16:43,549 --> 00:16:45,967
With the camgirls, it's about femicide.
316
00:16:45,968 --> 00:16:47,718
It's a message to their audiences.
317
00:16:47,719 --> 00:16:50,221
It profiles like the live stream
murders in Mexico last year.
318
00:16:50,222 --> 00:16:51,806
And there's also this.
319
00:16:51,807 --> 00:16:53,683
There was nothing left on Lance,
320
00:16:53,684 --> 00:16:58,396
but there was trace evidence of
leather on both the camgirls' bodies.
321
00:16:58,397 --> 00:17:01,649
The Fan's OCD won't
vary with his victims.
322
00:17:01,650 --> 00:17:04,110
Agreed. So, we separate investigations.
323
00:17:04,111 --> 00:17:06,988
Priority will be on the
unsub killing camgirls.
324
00:17:06,989 --> 00:17:08,948
Why? They're both urgent.
325
00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:13,244
They are, but... the Fan
knows how to practice discipline.
326
00:17:13,245 --> 00:17:14,871
He won't surface again until he's ready.
327
00:17:14,872 --> 00:17:17,874
Whoever is killing these
camgirls isn't so patient.
328
00:17:17,875 --> 00:17:19,543
He's going to kill
again as soon as he can.
329
00:17:24,365 --> 00:17:26,799
_
330
00:17:33,474 --> 00:17:35,266
What's another word for tremble?
331
00:17:35,267 --> 00:17:36,475
Dude, are you paying attention?
332
00:17:36,485 --> 00:17:37,935
We're about to start playing.
333
00:17:37,936 --> 00:17:40,480
I know, but I have to finish this
right now or I won't get paid.
334
00:17:40,481 --> 00:17:42,312
- This guy's intense.
- Hey, Trixie,
335
00:17:42,323 --> 00:17:45,318
can we have one session
uninterrupted by your sex work?
336
00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:47,098
Excuse me, but didn't you beg me to play
337
00:17:47,108 --> 00:17:49,155
this game with you
because you suck at it?
338
00:17:49,156 --> 00:17:51,991
Whatever, bro. Can it
just wait until after this fight?
339
00:17:51,992 --> 00:17:53,951
This is the only time I have to play.
340
00:17:53,952 --> 00:17:55,786
Until you can literally
fight your own battles,
341
00:17:55,787 --> 00:17:58,206
I'll do my sex work
whenever the fuck I want.
342
00:17:58,207 --> 00:18:00,334
Ugh. Just take a break.
343
00:18:00,918 --> 00:18:02,141
Fine. Let me just...
344
00:18:02,151 --> 00:18:04,587
send a couple more sexy messages,
and I'll be ready to fight.
345
00:18:04,588 --> 00:18:06,507
Good. Make it quick.
346
00:18:06,518 --> 00:18:07,622
_
347
00:18:07,662 --> 00:18:09,675
The word is quiver, by the way.
348
00:18:09,676 --> 00:18:11,719
Quiver. That's perfect. Thank you.
349
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,682
You are making me quiver,
thinking of your hand on my throat.
350
00:18:16,683 --> 00:18:18,601
- That's good. That's good.
- Ugh.
351
00:18:18,602 --> 00:18:19,727
Are you done yet, Trixie?
352
00:18:19,728 --> 00:18:21,772
Almost there. Chill, dude.
353
00:18:23,482 --> 00:18:25,274
I don't judge you with your job.
354
00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:27,902
I don't sext with other dudes.
355
00:18:27,903 --> 00:18:29,111
This is good.
356
00:18:29,112 --> 00:18:33,742
Yeah, call me princess, and I'll
do whatever you say, Zaddy with a Z.
357
00:18:36,078 --> 00:18:37,496
Uh. Excuse me, what do you...
358
00:18:39,289 --> 00:18:40,332
Percy.
359
00:18:41,416 --> 00:18:44,544
- Percy. Hey, are you...
- No.
360
00:18:44,545 --> 00:18:46,797
Ah, bro, what... what are you doing?
361
00:18:47,506 --> 00:18:49,015
Get it... Okay, man, let's...
362
00:18:49,026 --> 00:18:51,842
Wait, wait, wait, let's
talk about this. Wait, wait.
363
00:18:51,843 --> 00:18:54,178
You want money or
something? What do you want?
364
00:18:54,179 --> 00:18:55,805
Why? No, no.
365
00:18:55,806 --> 00:18:58,350
Please... No.
366
00:19:12,531 --> 00:19:14,824
All right. We're good
then. Thanks, officer.
367
00:19:14,825 --> 00:19:16,117
You got it.
368
00:19:16,118 --> 00:19:17,244
Hey.
369
00:19:18,537 --> 00:19:21,163
Seems our unsub's type has expanded.
370
00:19:21,164 --> 00:19:24,834
Not quite. Percy Stuben had an
online persona called Trixie.
371
00:19:24,835 --> 00:19:27,169
Apparently he was catfishing men.
372
00:19:27,170 --> 00:19:28,614
According to the online pic,
373
00:19:28,624 --> 00:19:30,506
Trixie is very similar
to Lexie and Regina.
374
00:19:30,507 --> 00:19:31,591
Similar how?
375
00:19:31,592 --> 00:19:34,510
Feathered hair, bell bottom
jeans, the kind of wet t-shirt look
376
00:19:34,511 --> 00:19:36,722
favored by Jacqueline
Bisset in The Deep.
377
00:19:38,348 --> 00:19:40,016
That's a 70s movie?
378
00:19:40,017 --> 00:19:41,976
I will kill you, and no one
will ever find your body.
379
00:19:41,977 --> 00:19:43,060
My point is,
380
00:19:43,061 --> 00:19:45,896
- we know 1976 is important to this unsub.
- Mm-hmm.
381
00:19:45,897 --> 00:19:47,883
Our two camgirls and our one catfisher
382
00:19:47,893 --> 00:19:50,318
all have this throwback 70s vibe.
383
00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:52,028
- But they're all millennials.
- Mm-hmm.
384
00:19:52,029 --> 00:19:53,738
In Percy's case, a man.
385
00:19:53,739 --> 00:19:55,865
Yeah. Percy was very, very careful.
386
00:19:55,866 --> 00:19:58,326
He never cammed. He
only did text exchanges.
387
00:19:58,327 --> 00:20:00,161
Ah. Makes sense. He didn't
want them to see his face.
388
00:20:00,162 --> 00:20:03,414
Most catfishers do everything
they can to stay in the shadows.
389
00:20:03,415 --> 00:20:04,624
Right.
390
00:20:04,625 --> 00:20:07,279
So how did a dude posing as a throwback
391
00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:09,629
70s chick get on this unsub's radar?
392
00:20:09,630 --> 00:20:11,714
If I had to guess,
393
00:20:11,715 --> 00:20:14,175
the unsub found out he wasn't
actually hot redhead Trixie
394
00:20:14,176 --> 00:20:15,259
and made him pay.
395
00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:18,304
That would mean he was as close to
Trixie as the other two camgirls.
396
00:20:18,305 --> 00:20:19,596
I mean, finding out he was being
397
00:20:19,606 --> 00:20:20,806
catfished would likely to have sent him
398
00:20:20,807 --> 00:20:22,308
into an even bigger rage.
399
00:20:22,309 --> 00:20:25,687
I mean, ugh, Percy's
blood is on this chair.
400
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,606
Check this out.
401
00:20:28,106 --> 00:20:31,025
The unsub left the belt
behind on the body this time,
402
00:20:31,026 --> 00:20:33,073
and it's cowhide, which is pretty much
403
00:20:33,083 --> 00:20:34,655
the most common leather you can find.
404
00:20:36,823 --> 00:20:38,158
He might have been in a hurry.
405
00:20:38,784 --> 00:20:40,242
According to Garcia,
406
00:20:40,243 --> 00:20:43,746
Percy was in the middle of a live
gaming chat when he was murdered.
407
00:20:43,747 --> 00:20:46,749
And he was also chatting
to a "DOG DAD 47."
408
00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:49,835
You think either of the people
he was talking to is our unsub?
409
00:20:49,836 --> 00:20:51,713
It depends on who he was gaming with.
410
00:20:54,883 --> 00:20:57,176
Percy and I weren't
on video at the time,
411
00:20:57,177 --> 00:21:00,597
so I didn't see anything,
but it sounded rough.
412
00:21:01,348 --> 00:21:03,099
How much did you hear?
413
00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:04,226
All of it.
414
00:21:04,810 --> 00:21:08,563
Then Percy's camera
turned on, and I saw...
415
00:21:12,567 --> 00:21:14,026
Kenny, I know this is tough,
416
00:21:14,027 --> 00:21:16,946
but how much did you know about
what Percy did for a living?
417
00:21:18,198 --> 00:21:19,407
Too much.
418
00:21:19,408 --> 00:21:21,784
I mean, he was always bragging
419
00:21:21,785 --> 00:21:24,370
about how much he was
scamming off these lonely guys.
420
00:21:24,371 --> 00:21:27,582
Did Percy receive any threats from
the men that he was catfishing?
421
00:21:28,458 --> 00:21:32,461
- Catfishing?
- We went through Percy's logs.
422
00:21:32,462 --> 00:21:36,048
He was pretending to be a
different hot woman in each one.
423
00:21:36,049 --> 00:21:37,883
Ah. Nah, you've got it wrong.
424
00:21:37,884 --> 00:21:40,219
- Percy was a chatter.
- What's a chatter?
425
00:21:40,220 --> 00:21:42,392
When these girls get too many followers
426
00:21:42,402 --> 00:21:45,182
wanting one-on-ones, it's overwhelming.
427
00:21:45,183 --> 00:21:47,852
So, they outsource the
texts to people like Percy.
428
00:21:47,853 --> 00:21:49,687
He worked for a bunch of them.
429
00:21:49,688 --> 00:21:53,149
Okay. So, Percy was there to
keep customers feeling special,
430
00:21:53,150 --> 00:21:54,775
connected to the camgirls?
431
00:21:54,776 --> 00:21:55,860
Yeah.
432
00:21:55,861 --> 00:21:58,654
They'd send more money to the
girls, and Percy would get a cut.
433
00:21:58,655 --> 00:22:00,948
Did he work on a specific platform?
434
00:22:00,949 --> 00:22:03,785
Yeah, there's a chatter
app for all the platforms.
435
00:22:04,286 --> 00:22:07,956
He used to do freelance chatting
here and there, but he got headhunted.
436
00:22:10,250 --> 00:22:14,880
I can't believe someone
murdered him for it.
437
00:22:16,256 --> 00:22:18,883
Yo, bro, am I, like, free to go?
438
00:22:18,884 --> 00:22:21,886
I need to get, like, celestially
high to stop thinking about this.
439
00:22:21,887 --> 00:22:24,680
Yeah. Yeah, thanks.
440
00:22:29,603 --> 00:22:33,063
You want me to hack a chatter app?
441
00:22:33,064 --> 00:22:35,441
- Yeah, is that a problem?
- Ew, ew. No.
442
00:22:35,442 --> 00:22:37,193
Why would it be?
443
00:22:37,194 --> 00:22:40,404
Stop grilling me with
your eyes. Okay, okay.
444
00:22:40,405 --> 00:22:43,199
I hit some speed bumps
with the cam sites.
445
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,869
It turns out when your profit motive
is linked to internet security,
446
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:49,455
i-it can be tricky for a
mermaid like me to trip you up.
447
00:22:49,456 --> 00:22:52,416
But that is not an issue,
that is an "iss-me."
448
00:22:52,417 --> 00:22:55,304
And yes, of course, I-I will, I will...
449
00:22:55,314 --> 00:22:56,962
I will look into your chatter app.
450
00:22:56,963 --> 00:22:59,507
Just give me just... a second.
451
00:22:59,508 --> 00:23:01,217
Is this coffee?
452
00:23:01,218 --> 00:23:03,552
Did you switch from tea to coffee?
453
00:23:03,553 --> 00:23:06,514
No, I switched from
coffee to triple espresso.
454
00:23:06,515 --> 00:23:08,557
Penelope, when is the
last time you slept?
455
00:23:08,558 --> 00:23:10,559
When was the last time you slept?
456
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,563
Don't answer that 'cause I know...
clearly it was b-before I did,
457
00:23:14,564 --> 00:23:16,273
but you know what they say about sleep?
458
00:23:16,274 --> 00:23:17,691
- That it's, um...
- Necessary?
459
00:23:17,692 --> 00:23:20,152
... overrated, it is
overrated for me right now.
460
00:23:20,153 --> 00:23:22,154
And look, I mean this,
it's going to sound mean,
461
00:23:22,155 --> 00:23:25,867
but with all love in my heart, get
out of my face right now, please.
462
00:23:28,245 --> 00:23:31,956
Okay. Geez.
463
00:23:31,957 --> 00:23:33,833
Well, there... there it is again.
464
00:23:33,834 --> 00:23:34,959
Geography.
465
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,919
It's been bugging me
since we got this case.
466
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,129
So, you can be a camgirl, a chatter from
467
00:23:39,139 --> 00:23:41,258
anywhere in the US, the world even.
468
00:23:41,842 --> 00:23:44,510
So how has this unsub
found three victims
469
00:23:44,511 --> 00:23:46,972
all within a 150-mile
radius of each other?
470
00:23:47,472 --> 00:23:48,932
It can't be an accident.
471
00:23:49,516 --> 00:23:51,433
Being local must be important to him.
472
00:23:51,434 --> 00:23:54,228
- Look!
- What? You got something for us?
473
00:23:54,229 --> 00:23:57,314
Yes. I have got
something, but not for you.
474
00:23:57,315 --> 00:23:58,399
Not for you.
475
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,525
But I'm not gonna forget the cam sites
476
00:24:00,535 --> 00:24:02,863
and the chatter app,
but, uh, but first...
477
00:24:04,114 --> 00:24:05,322
What was I saying?
478
00:24:05,323 --> 00:24:08,784
- You got something, but not for us.
- Yes, yes, and I gotta go.
479
00:24:08,785 --> 00:24:11,412
I gotta go do that. Excuse me. Let's go.
480
00:24:11,413 --> 00:24:13,456
Thank you.
481
00:24:14,207 --> 00:24:16,125
Have I got an update for you.
482
00:24:16,126 --> 00:24:18,836
- Do you see that, that right there?
- The exclamation point.
483
00:24:18,837 --> 00:24:23,924
That is not supposed to exist
because typewriters made before 1960s
484
00:24:23,925 --> 00:24:25,594
didn't have a one key.
485
00:24:26,678 --> 00:24:28,679
- Wait.
- No, she's right.
486
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,016
I remember you would
use the lowercase L.
487
00:24:32,017 --> 00:24:36,687
So, if there's no one, there's
no exclamation point either.
488
00:24:36,688 --> 00:24:41,150
Well, did the Fan get a special
plate for just one punctuation mark?
489
00:24:41,151 --> 00:24:44,862
I don't think so. I think he
used a period and an apostrophe
490
00:24:44,863 --> 00:24:47,990
and made his own exclamation plate.
491
00:24:47,991 --> 00:24:50,451
Which means he didn't
use any modern typewriter.
492
00:24:50,452 --> 00:24:53,913
And older typewriters have very
limited, you know, variety of typefaces
493
00:24:53,914 --> 00:24:56,665
which narrows down where he's
getting his building materials from.
494
00:24:56,666 --> 00:24:58,051
Not to mention the larger font,
495
00:24:58,061 --> 00:25:00,002
that should make it
easier to find as well.
496
00:25:00,003 --> 00:25:03,589
Mm-hmm. And even if he had
a large font typewriter,
497
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:07,301
he'd still need to get another
striker because pathetic has two T's.
498
00:25:07,302 --> 00:25:09,595
What's the point of all that?
499
00:25:09,596 --> 00:25:11,264
Just to call us pathetic?
500
00:25:11,890 --> 00:25:13,475
Might not be for us.
501
00:25:15,518 --> 00:25:16,645
Right.
502
00:25:18,146 --> 00:25:21,024
Right. Let's go see him.
503
00:25:24,653 --> 00:25:26,195
- Is he...
- Don't worry about him.
504
00:25:26,196 --> 00:25:27,696
What about you...
505
00:25:27,697 --> 00:25:30,324
Is that the same outfit
you wore yesterday?
506
00:25:30,325 --> 00:25:32,201
Did you go to bed last night?
507
00:25:32,202 --> 00:25:33,911
Yeah, I som...
508
00:25:33,912 --> 00:25:37,165
I don't... I'm fine. Why do
I have to change every day?
509
00:25:38,124 --> 00:25:40,168
Inmates, clear the tier.
510
00:25:41,127 --> 00:25:43,003
Well, he's not Mark David Chapman.
511
00:25:43,004 --> 00:25:44,421
No, he's not.
512
00:25:44,422 --> 00:25:45,673
What is he then?
513
00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:47,342
A copycat of you.
514
00:25:48,134 --> 00:25:49,635
I never branded anyone.
515
00:25:49,636 --> 00:25:52,180
Ever restrained anyone
with a leather belt?
516
00:25:54,683 --> 00:25:56,517
There are three kinds of copycats.
517
00:25:56,518 --> 00:25:58,792
One who wants to learn everything
518
00:25:58,802 --> 00:26:01,105
he can about the killer he's emulating.
519
00:26:01,106 --> 00:26:03,816
One who wants everyone
to think that his crimes
520
00:26:03,817 --> 00:26:06,568
are being committed by
the killer he's emulating.
521
00:26:06,569 --> 00:26:07,778
And then there's the third,
522
00:26:07,779 --> 00:26:10,864
the one who wants to be
better than his predecessor.
523
00:26:10,865 --> 00:26:12,367
Like Derek Brown. You remember him?
524
00:26:13,702 --> 00:26:15,744
Yeah. He copied Jack the Ripper,
525
00:26:15,745 --> 00:26:17,746
but they never found the
bodies of his two victims,
526
00:26:17,747 --> 00:26:20,083
so he was almost better
until they caught him.
527
00:26:22,002 --> 00:26:24,546
Studied that case after
you wrote a book about it.
528
00:26:25,547 --> 00:26:26,631
Exactly.
529
00:26:28,842 --> 00:26:31,552
Ah. I see what you're saying.
530
00:26:31,553 --> 00:26:34,305
It's almost like I'm a
copycat of you, right, Dave?
531
00:26:38,393 --> 00:26:43,814
We think the Fan is like Brown,
or the school shooter model
532
00:26:43,815 --> 00:26:47,818
inspired by the Columbine shooters,
only he's trying to surpass you.
533
00:26:47,819 --> 00:26:50,195
So, he's doing everything I
did before I started killing,
534
00:26:50,196 --> 00:26:54,325
but now he feels advanced
enough to do his own thing,
535
00:26:55,493 --> 00:26:57,536
which means it's
probably isn't his first.
536
00:26:57,537 --> 00:26:59,080
That's what we thought.
537
00:26:59,664 --> 00:27:00,874
Who do you think it is?
538
00:27:04,002 --> 00:27:05,128
I don't know.
539
00:27:07,338 --> 00:27:08,465
You know.
540
00:27:10,884 --> 00:27:12,761
- No, I don't know...
- You know.
541
00:27:15,388 --> 00:27:17,932
And you've already done
something, haven't you?
542
00:27:19,392 --> 00:27:20,393
Dave,
543
00:27:21,644 --> 00:27:23,312
you said yourself,
I've grown a conscience.
544
00:27:23,313 --> 00:27:25,482
I wouldn't do anything
to jeopardize your trust.
545
00:27:28,610 --> 00:27:29,652
Yeah.
546
00:27:30,945 --> 00:27:33,907
You've studied me and I've studied you.
547
00:27:36,618 --> 00:27:41,539
So, whatever you did,
I will figure it out.
548
00:27:57,388 --> 00:27:58,389
No.
549
00:27:59,098 --> 00:28:01,559
Yeah, all the information was in the ad.
550
00:28:03,061 --> 00:28:05,854
No, I'm not gonna drop the
price on the podcast notes.
551
00:28:05,855 --> 00:28:08,607
Do you have any idea what's
in there? Do you understand?
552
00:28:08,608 --> 00:28:10,235
They should be in the Smithsonian.
553
00:28:11,736 --> 00:28:14,530
The price is non-negotiable.
554
00:28:14,531 --> 00:28:18,158
No, I'm not gonna throw
in the podcast sign.
555
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:20,662
Because someone's on the
way right now to buy it.
556
00:28:21,663 --> 00:28:24,498
Okay, you listen to me, you little shit.
557
00:28:24,499 --> 00:28:27,168
Oh. All right, here's
what I can do for you.
558
00:28:34,217 --> 00:28:35,468
Hey, Brian.
559
00:28:36,386 --> 00:28:37,469
Sheila.
560
00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:38,971
Can I come in?
561
00:28:38,972 --> 00:28:41,932
Oh... yeah, sure.
562
00:28:41,933 --> 00:28:44,685
I wasn't expecting you.
563
00:28:44,686 --> 00:28:47,104
- You look fantastic.
- Aw.
564
00:28:47,105 --> 00:28:49,147
- I didn't mean...
- No, no. It's okay.
565
00:28:49,148 --> 00:28:52,734
Listen, after the divorce, I could
finally sleep more than four hours.
566
00:28:52,735 --> 00:28:56,531
I got a gym membership
and a nutritionist.
567
00:28:57,365 --> 00:28:58,907
- What?
- No, it's...
568
00:28:58,908 --> 00:29:00,535
No, it's okay. You can say it.
569
00:29:02,078 --> 00:29:05,956
I guess I'm realizing
that you taking care of me
570
00:29:05,957 --> 00:29:08,418
probably got in the way of
you taking care of yourself.
571
00:29:10,044 --> 00:29:13,547
It's funny. Bob says the same thing.
572
00:29:13,548 --> 00:29:15,841
Bob from work?
573
00:29:15,842 --> 00:29:18,677
You talking about me a lot
with your IRS colleagues?
574
00:29:18,678 --> 00:29:22,015
No, only the ones who make me breakfast.
575
00:29:23,516 --> 00:29:25,476
Ah. Right.
576
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:28,395
Can I, uh, can I see that?
577
00:29:28,396 --> 00:29:30,522
Oh, this is... nothing. I'm selling it.
578
00:29:30,523 --> 00:29:32,150
I-I know, I'm the one who's buying it.
579
00:29:33,318 --> 00:29:35,819
You listen to The Sicarius Files?
580
00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:39,365
Just the last episode and
you know, I was impressed.
581
00:29:41,284 --> 00:29:44,161
And then I realized that you
met an actual serial killer
582
00:29:44,162 --> 00:29:46,246
and then I was kind
of worried about you.
583
00:29:46,247 --> 00:29:49,918
So, I think I'm just trying
to make sure you're okay.
584
00:29:53,004 --> 00:29:54,338
Well, I don't know what to say.
585
00:29:54,339 --> 00:29:56,048
Say you'll give me a discount.
586
00:29:56,049 --> 00:29:58,091
Turns out my niece is a huge fan,
587
00:29:58,092 --> 00:30:01,137
so I'm trying to get some...
some cool auntie points.
588
00:30:01,763 --> 00:30:03,221
Come on.
589
00:30:03,222 --> 00:30:05,057
Look. Merino wool.
590
00:30:05,058 --> 00:30:07,018
Oh, thanks.
591
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,730
Thank you.
592
00:30:11,856 --> 00:30:13,358
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
593
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,280
Okay, so after the divorce, you
wanted nothing more to do with me.
594
00:30:20,281 --> 00:30:22,408
You went no contact.
595
00:30:23,618 --> 00:30:25,828
How did you even find
out about the podcast?
596
00:30:26,412 --> 00:30:28,998
There was someone who called me
and said that I should listen.
597
00:30:29,582 --> 00:30:31,458
Who called you?
598
00:30:31,459 --> 00:30:33,795
I don't know, it was Lee something.
599
00:30:34,879 --> 00:30:37,423
- Lee Duval?
- Yeah, that's it. Do you know him?
600
00:30:38,508 --> 00:30:40,926
Yes, I do.
601
00:30:40,927 --> 00:30:43,221
Okay. Well, thanks.
602
00:30:50,937 --> 00:30:53,231
Open up.
603
00:30:57,276 --> 00:30:59,695
Brian, thank you for coming to see me.
604
00:30:59,696 --> 00:31:01,155
Where did you get the phone?
605
00:31:02,281 --> 00:31:03,282
What?
606
00:31:03,825 --> 00:31:06,118
Where did you get the phone
you used to call my wife?
607
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:07,328
Oh. Ex-wife.
608
00:31:08,788 --> 00:31:11,164
Seriously, you're gonna narc on me?
609
00:31:11,165 --> 00:31:13,750
- Excuse me, I need to tell you something.
- Jesus Christ. Okay.
610
00:31:13,751 --> 00:31:14,949
Okay, look, I had to get you a message
611
00:31:14,959 --> 00:31:16,629
so that you would come and see me.
612
00:31:21,426 --> 00:31:23,761
I just wanted to say
thank you for your service.
613
00:31:28,766 --> 00:31:30,934
Well, wives are off-limits.
614
00:31:30,935 --> 00:31:34,396
Wives, children, exes,
estranged or otherwise,
615
00:31:34,397 --> 00:31:36,648
don't act like you don't know
how this works all of a sudden.
616
00:31:36,649 --> 00:31:38,359
Do you wanna hear my message?
617
00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:41,278
Okay.
618
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,531
I too know what it's like to
lose the person whose respect
619
00:31:44,532 --> 00:31:46,450
you want more than
anything in the world.
620
00:31:46,451 --> 00:31:48,226
I too know what it's like to want to do
621
00:31:48,236 --> 00:31:50,580
anything to look better in their eyes.
622
00:31:51,122 --> 00:31:53,082
And I know how you can do that.
623
00:31:54,333 --> 00:31:55,625
What are you talking about?
624
00:31:55,626 --> 00:31:57,628
She got hooked on the
podcast, didn't she?
625
00:31:58,212 --> 00:32:01,548
I wouldn't say hooked. She
was impressed, but anyway,
626
00:32:01,549 --> 00:32:03,759
it doesn't matter because
the podcast is over.
627
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,010
Well, what if it's not?
628
00:32:05,011 --> 00:32:07,096
I have another message for the Fan.
629
00:32:07,764 --> 00:32:11,267
On an SD card recorded on the same
phone I used to call your ex-wife.
630
00:32:12,435 --> 00:32:13,977
Give it to the BAU.
631
00:32:13,978 --> 00:32:15,937
Yeah, they have a
tendency to screw shit up.
632
00:32:15,938 --> 00:32:19,399
You screwed shit up when
you insulted the Fan.
633
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,318
You're right, I did.
634
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:22,944
I tried to control the story.
635
00:32:22,945 --> 00:32:24,696
I tried to control what
people thought of me,
636
00:32:24,697 --> 00:32:27,742
but I only made things worse
because it's not my story anymore.
637
00:32:28,785 --> 00:32:29,786
It's yours.
638
00:32:32,914 --> 00:32:34,082
Can I tell you what I think?
639
00:32:35,249 --> 00:32:36,250
Please.
640
00:32:38,127 --> 00:32:42,589
I think you see me as an
easily manipulatable patsy,
641
00:32:42,590 --> 00:32:46,843
someone you can get to do your
bidding with a little ego boost
642
00:32:46,844 --> 00:32:48,762
or if that doesn't work,
you throw in a little,
643
00:32:48,763 --> 00:32:52,767
"Oh, Brian, we're not so
different, you and I." Am I close?
644
00:32:57,271 --> 00:32:59,023
Well, let me tell you something.
645
00:32:59,732 --> 00:33:02,610
And this is coming
from a very real place.
646
00:33:07,156 --> 00:33:10,284
You and I are very different.
647
00:33:12,203 --> 00:33:13,204
Mmm.
648
00:33:14,872 --> 00:33:17,708
Well, do you even know
what that difference is?
649
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,672
There is a burgeoning
serial killer out there
650
00:33:23,673 --> 00:33:25,674
who I'm pretty sure
has already killed once
651
00:33:25,675 --> 00:33:27,843
but is in a bit of a cooling off period.
652
00:33:27,844 --> 00:33:29,220
And why do you think that is?
653
00:33:30,513 --> 00:33:33,850
What has happened to distract
him to stop him from escalating?
654
00:33:35,309 --> 00:33:36,560
My show.
655
00:33:36,561 --> 00:33:39,272
And that is the difference
between you and me.
656
00:33:40,523 --> 00:33:42,315
I can't stop him from in here.
657
00:33:42,316 --> 00:33:45,027
The BAU can't stop him
from anywhere but...
658
00:33:47,321 --> 00:33:48,865
you can.
659
00:33:55,288 --> 00:33:57,248
Thank you for coming to see me.
660
00:34:24,609 --> 00:34:26,526
Wow. What's all this?
661
00:34:26,527 --> 00:34:29,947
Uh, Garcia got all the online chats
Percy had with paying customers.
662
00:34:32,283 --> 00:34:34,702
"Until the room stinks."
663
00:34:37,246 --> 00:34:39,998
I don't know why I'm reading
it out loud. I'm sorry.
664
00:34:39,999 --> 00:34:42,700
Yes, uh... so way more than
665
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:45,045
half of these are much older gentlemen.
666
00:34:45,046 --> 00:34:48,548
Yeah, it looks like Percy was
real popular with the AARP army.
667
00:34:48,549 --> 00:34:50,884
Okay, so could our
unsub be an older man?
668
00:34:50,885 --> 00:34:54,054
That would explain why
1976 means so much to him.
669
00:34:54,055 --> 00:34:56,139
That could be when
his lovemap was formed.
670
00:34:56,140 --> 00:34:57,307
Well, that tracks.
671
00:34:57,308 --> 00:34:59,727
All of our victims made
videos in a '70s persona.
672
00:35:00,353 --> 00:35:02,646
These chats all mentioned food.
673
00:35:02,647 --> 00:35:04,377
So, I looked through some of Regina's
674
00:35:04,387 --> 00:35:06,066
older videos from the time of the chats.
675
00:35:06,067 --> 00:35:09,736
She did a series of mukbangs
with some very regional foods.
676
00:35:09,737 --> 00:35:11,321
What's a mukbang?
677
00:35:11,322 --> 00:35:15,742
Oh. It is when someone eats an
insane amount of food on camera.
678
00:35:15,743 --> 00:35:17,827
I cannot tell you why, but
they are incredibly popular.
679
00:35:17,828 --> 00:35:20,580
So popular that Lexie did one as well.
680
00:35:20,581 --> 00:35:22,249
Regina had a ton of blue crabs.
681
00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:25,585
Lexie finished hers with a
big box of Berger cookies.
682
00:35:25,586 --> 00:35:27,755
Yeah, we're talking incredibly regional.
683
00:35:28,506 --> 00:35:29,989
Without saying where they lived,
684
00:35:29,999 --> 00:35:31,841
these women still ended
up exposing themselves.
685
00:35:31,842 --> 00:35:33,385
- Yeah.
- Mmm.
686
00:35:33,386 --> 00:35:35,345
Solves your geo-profile problem.
687
00:35:35,346 --> 00:35:38,348
Yeah, it's part of his
parasocial delusion.
688
00:35:38,349 --> 00:35:40,892
He wants to believe these
women were his peers.
689
00:35:40,893 --> 00:35:43,770
They grew up in the old neighborhood.
Remember how good it was.
690
00:35:43,771 --> 00:35:46,274
And then when the relationship
soured, he killed them.
691
00:35:47,692 --> 00:35:50,569
We need to comb all of our
victims' communications.
692
00:35:50,570 --> 00:35:53,196
I mean, any mention of regional
food could be our unsub.
693
00:35:53,197 --> 00:35:56,449
Okay, we are gonna have to come
back and help you read through these.
694
00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:59,245
We gotta get to the ME. They
finished Percy's autopsy.
695
00:35:59,996 --> 00:36:01,581
- Sorry.
- Mmm.
696
00:36:02,623 --> 00:36:03,958
Oh, come on.
697
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,628
He put coins inside Percy?
698
00:36:08,629 --> 00:36:12,340
Not only did he use coins this
time, his total was changed.
699
00:36:12,341 --> 00:36:14,593
I took all the cash from
Percy's mouth and stomach,
700
00:36:14,594 --> 00:36:17,220
and then I found two
dimes deep in his bowels,
701
00:36:17,221 --> 00:36:20,558
bringing the grand total to $395.20.
702
00:36:21,392 --> 00:36:27,689
Wait, that's... that's exactly
20% of Lexie and Regina's amounts.
703
00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:29,816
What?
704
00:36:29,817 --> 00:36:33,236
I got good at mental
math from playing darts.
705
00:36:33,237 --> 00:36:35,947
I needed a calculator...
but you're right.
706
00:36:35,948 --> 00:36:38,825
I looked for more coins and bills
in case I was missing something,
707
00:36:38,826 --> 00:36:40,286
but that's all I found.
708
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:43,204
I called you in so fast because
I was worried there might be
709
00:36:43,205 --> 00:36:45,832
four other victims making up
the rest of the money somewhere.
710
00:36:45,833 --> 00:36:47,752
I-I don't think it's that.
711
00:36:48,628 --> 00:36:51,671
We thought 1976 was about a date,
712
00:36:51,672 --> 00:36:54,549
but if he's willing to make a 20% cut
713
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:57,552
for the guy who took 20%
of the camgirls' earnings,
714
00:36:57,553 --> 00:36:59,512
he's saying something else.
715
00:36:59,513 --> 00:37:00,639
Like what?
716
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,931
Not sure.
717
00:37:01,932 --> 00:37:06,270
Sometimes a cigar is a cigar, maybe
the money is just about the money.
718
00:37:11,734 --> 00:37:13,234
I spoke with forensics.
719
00:37:13,235 --> 00:37:16,946
The brands on Lance Kingston's
body are all the same depth,
720
00:37:16,947 --> 00:37:20,408
meaning all the letters are
the same brand of typewriter.
721
00:37:20,409 --> 00:37:22,536
Penelope, you said you
had something on that.
722
00:37:26,749 --> 00:37:28,626
Penelope, hey.
723
00:37:29,669 --> 00:37:31,836
- Hey.
- Huh? Huh?
724
00:37:31,837 --> 00:37:35,173
Hey. You called typewriter
shops about letter strikers?
725
00:37:35,174 --> 00:37:37,176
Yeah, I sure did. I-I called...
726
00:37:37,677 --> 00:37:41,721
I called, uh, almost every
typewriter, collector,
727
00:37:41,722 --> 00:37:44,849
supplier, and repair shop
in the eastern seaboard
728
00:37:44,850 --> 00:37:50,313
looking for the rare six CPI
set of strikers, and I found two.
729
00:37:50,314 --> 00:37:51,773
Great. Where are they?
730
00:37:51,774 --> 00:37:53,983
Oh, one was at a vintage
warehouse in New York.
731
00:37:53,984 --> 00:37:55,694
Uh. That one was
stolen a few months ago.
732
00:37:55,695 --> 00:38:00,532
And the other one was a gift
to a Philadelphia university
733
00:38:00,533 --> 00:38:01,700
and that one was also stolen.
734
00:38:01,701 --> 00:38:03,660
That's where the Fan's
letters were postmarked from.
735
00:38:03,661 --> 00:38:05,370
There was something else I wondered...
736
00:38:05,371 --> 00:38:07,122
Oh, I-I... Okay.
737
00:38:07,123 --> 00:38:10,250
So, the lab hit a dead end
when it came to the restraints
738
00:38:10,251 --> 00:38:12,585
that the Fan was using on Lance,
so I went a different route.
739
00:38:12,586 --> 00:38:14,379
"Root?" I went a different direction,
740
00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:18,092
and the indentations on Lance's
wrist matches stingray skin.
741
00:38:19,093 --> 00:38:20,552
Stingray skin?
742
00:38:20,553 --> 00:38:23,555
Yeah, that's what those weird
bumps on Lance's arms were.
743
00:38:23,556 --> 00:38:26,433
Stingray leather retains the
same bumps as Stingray's skin.
744
00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:28,685
Well, stingray leather
should be easier to track.
745
00:38:28,686 --> 00:38:30,520
Oh, yeah, which is why
I'm one step ahead of you.
746
00:38:30,521 --> 00:38:31,604
There's this.
747
00:38:31,605 --> 00:38:36,234
Um, so, a few months ago, a-a
Pennsylvania college student,
748
00:38:36,235 --> 00:38:38,863
female, she was strangled with a belt.
749
00:38:39,405 --> 00:38:41,449
Her name was Victoria Everman.
750
00:38:50,833 --> 00:38:52,667
And based on the patterns on her neck,
751
00:38:52,668 --> 00:38:55,420
they were able to determine
that it was stingray leather.
752
00:38:55,421 --> 00:38:58,047
Cameras on campus weren't
able to track the assailant.
753
00:38:58,048 --> 00:38:59,132
Of course not.
754
00:38:59,133 --> 00:39:03,887
His OCD forces him to make sure
he knew when he was being watched.
755
00:39:03,888 --> 00:39:05,513
There is one silver lining, though.
756
00:39:05,514 --> 00:39:07,474
For all the Fan's
attempts to throw us off,
757
00:39:07,475 --> 00:39:10,352
he has inadvertently revealed
something about himself.
758
00:39:10,853 --> 00:39:13,939
Stingray leather, that's his signature.
759
00:39:19,445 --> 00:39:23,031
Russell. Russell.
760
00:39:23,032 --> 00:39:24,991
Russell. Russell.
761
00:39:24,992 --> 00:39:29,205
Favorite movie, any western,
probably from the '70s.
762
00:39:31,957 --> 00:39:34,375
Ah, right. Ah...
763
00:39:34,376 --> 00:39:39,632
Misses the old menu at Bronze
Pint Tavern in downtown Baltimore.
764
00:39:40,299 --> 00:39:42,134
Obsessed with Charlie's Angels.
765
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,929
Used to play pinball with his son.
766
00:39:45,930 --> 00:39:48,516
Misses when his wife
would laugh at his jokes.
767
00:39:49,291 --> 00:39:52,611
_
768
00:39:52,804 --> 00:39:55,752
So, what does 1976 mean in terms of how
769
00:39:55,762 --> 00:39:57,524
these victims are
charging their clients?
770
00:39:57,525 --> 00:39:59,317
I don't think it's about money.
771
00:39:59,318 --> 00:40:02,403
Lexie's boyfriend said they
were charging $30 an hour.
772
00:40:02,404 --> 00:40:05,198
For this guy to have blown
upwards of 1,900 bucks,
773
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,535
she'd have had to have been
on with him for over 60 hours.
774
00:40:08,536 --> 00:40:12,807
Okay, so maybe 1976 is a symbolic amount
775
00:40:12,817 --> 00:40:14,958
of money, not just the total spent,
776
00:40:14,959 --> 00:40:19,755
but that number is part of
the message he's sending out.
777
00:40:20,297 --> 00:40:21,590
Like Social Security.
778
00:40:22,466 --> 00:40:23,675
Wow, how did you get there?
779
00:40:23,676 --> 00:40:26,637
My grandma gets one of
those checks every month.
780
00:40:27,304 --> 00:40:28,388
Here it is.
781
00:40:28,389 --> 00:40:32,684
The average Social Security
benefit is just under $2000.
782
00:40:32,685 --> 00:40:34,227
That would tie it all together.
783
00:40:34,228 --> 00:40:35,722
It would say something not just about
784
00:40:35,732 --> 00:40:37,522
his preferences with these camgirls,
785
00:40:37,523 --> 00:40:40,984
but he would have been spending
his entire monthly income on them.
786
00:40:40,985 --> 00:40:42,892
I just searched Percy's logs for any
787
00:40:42,902 --> 00:40:44,362
mention of a Social Security check,
788
00:40:44,363 --> 00:40:47,991
and I found one series of
chats with a Russell Kirkland.
789
00:40:47,992 --> 00:40:49,158
Could it be our unsub?
790
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:51,744
Well, according to his
profile, he's in his 70s,
791
00:40:51,745 --> 00:40:53,079
born and raised in Maryland.
792
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,455
He checks all the boxes.
793
00:40:54,456 --> 00:40:58,126
Uncheck those boxes because
Russell Kirkland is dead,
794
00:40:58,127 --> 00:40:59,628
committed suicide about a month ago.
795
00:41:00,129 --> 00:41:02,172
If this guy isn't our unsub, who is?
796
00:41:05,092 --> 00:41:06,760
Okay.
797
00:41:10,222 --> 00:41:13,893
Okay. Pinball, laugh, westerns.
798
00:41:15,019 --> 00:41:16,145
Okay.
799
00:41:18,397 --> 00:41:19,523
Right.
800
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,781
Well, hello there, Russell.
It's been a long time.
801
00:41:30,431 --> 00:41:32,057
Oh. That's a bummer.
802
00:41:32,068 --> 00:41:33,819
I'm glad you're back.
803
00:41:33,867 --> 00:41:34,951
How are you today?
804
00:41:35,883 --> 00:41:38,016
_
805
00:41:39,001 --> 00:41:40,543
Russell.
806
00:41:40,544 --> 00:41:42,253
You did say I was your favorite,
807
00:41:42,254 --> 00:41:44,173
ruined you for all the
other ladies, is it?
808
00:41:44,617 --> 00:41:47,091
_
809
00:41:47,343 --> 00:41:49,803
Okay, chill, man, or I'm
gonna turn off the stream.
810
00:41:50,387 --> 00:41:54,103
Man, I got a sweet power nap in,
811
00:41:54,113 --> 00:41:56,684
and Tyler and I are here to crush this.
812
00:41:56,685 --> 00:41:58,478
After finding Russell's
death certificate,
813
00:41:58,479 --> 00:42:01,105
I thought maybe the real
unsub could be killing camgirls
814
00:42:01,106 --> 00:42:02,899
as revenge for Russell's suicide.
815
00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:04,984
Enter Russell's son Jace.
816
00:42:04,985 --> 00:42:06,423
Now, based on bank records,
817
00:42:06,434 --> 00:42:09,113
Jace's had to send his father
money for the last year.
818
00:42:09,114 --> 00:42:11,699
Allons-y with alacrity
for the 411 on Jace.
819
00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:13,785
Okay, so what are these documents?
820
00:42:13,786 --> 00:42:16,746
Those are emails from Russell
to his lawyer, trying to get
821
00:42:16,747 --> 00:42:18,831
his money back from the
women who worked as camgirls.
822
00:42:18,832 --> 00:42:21,000
He tried every angle,
financial abuse, elder abuse,
823
00:42:21,001 --> 00:42:23,252
scams, fraud, you name it, to no avail.
824
00:42:23,253 --> 00:42:26,214
Regina, Trixie, and Lexie are
all mentioned in those emails.
825
00:42:26,215 --> 00:42:29,092
Okay, but looks like his
lawyer dismissed all the claims
826
00:42:29,093 --> 00:42:31,219
because the transactions
were all above board.
827
00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:32,653
Yeah, that's what happens when you hit
828
00:42:32,663 --> 00:42:33,930
"agree to the terms and conditions"
829
00:42:33,931 --> 00:42:35,723
without reading the terms
and conditions, people.
830
00:42:35,724 --> 00:42:38,434
So, his son took the
law into his own hands
831
00:42:38,435 --> 00:42:40,979
where he feels the system
failed him? Where is Jace now?
832
00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:43,399
I sent you his work and home address.
833
00:42:43,983 --> 00:42:46,651
Did Kirkland mention any of
the other women in his emails?
834
00:42:46,652 --> 00:42:49,028
No, unfortunately, Jace got to them all.
835
00:42:49,029 --> 00:42:51,698
Except for one, Cora Sault.
836
00:42:51,699 --> 00:42:53,534
All right, we need
to divide and conquer.
837
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:57,036
All right, uh, you take Jace's
work. I'll take his home.
838
00:42:57,037 --> 00:42:59,039
- Yeah.
- We'll take Cora. Let's hit it.
839
00:43:04,531 --> 00:43:06,577
_
840
00:43:11,785 --> 00:43:15,203
_
841
00:43:17,081 --> 00:43:19,267
_
842
00:43:19,744 --> 00:43:21,704
Okay, what the fuck
are you talking about?
843
00:43:22,305 --> 00:43:23,632
_
844
00:43:24,231 --> 00:43:25,348
Okay.
845
00:43:28,050 --> 00:43:29,301
Jesus.
846
00:43:31,363 --> 00:43:34,033
Whoa! Whoa! Hey!
847
00:43:40,516 --> 00:43:42,727
It's time to put on a show.
848
00:43:56,740 --> 00:43:58,909
What... what the fuck?
849
00:43:59,850 --> 00:44:01,309
What the fuck?
850
00:44:01,310 --> 00:44:02,894
What's going on?
851
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:04,563
What is going on?
852
00:44:05,012 --> 00:44:06,346
You know who I am?
853
00:44:08,882 --> 00:44:10,759
You're Russell's son, aren't you?
854
00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:14,558
My dad told you about me?
855
00:44:15,166 --> 00:44:16,208
Yeah.
856
00:44:17,215 --> 00:44:19,592
Yeah, he was very proud of you.
857
00:44:19,603 --> 00:44:21,920
You charged him $70 an hour so he could
858
00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:23,689
tell you how proud he was of me?
859
00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:25,733
- Bullshit!
- No, it's not. It's not.
860
00:44:25,893 --> 00:44:27,653
Do you wanna know why
I talked to your father?
861
00:44:27,664 --> 00:44:29,373
I know why!
862
00:44:29,384 --> 00:44:32,511
Mom died, so you pretended
to like a grieving man.
863
00:44:36,944 --> 00:44:38,245
No, that's not true.
864
00:44:38,246 --> 00:44:40,414
I-I talked to him because you didn't.
865
00:44:40,415 --> 00:44:42,124
He just wanted company.
866
00:44:42,324 --> 00:44:44,535
I-I talked to him
because you were too busy.
867
00:44:51,676 --> 00:44:54,471
Oh, my God. Please, no, no, no, no.
868
00:44:55,263 --> 00:44:57,640
FBI! No. Drop the knife, Jace.
869
00:44:57,641 --> 00:45:00,017
No, no, they all need to pay
for what they did to my father.
870
00:45:00,018 --> 00:45:01,227
- Jace!
- Stay back!
871
00:45:01,344 --> 00:45:02,595
Don't do this, Jace.
872
00:45:03,396 --> 00:45:05,128
I know you think something precious was
873
00:45:05,138 --> 00:45:07,233
taken from you, and
you blame these women,
874
00:45:07,234 --> 00:45:09,985
but it was your father who
chose to give them all his money.
875
00:45:09,986 --> 00:45:14,281
No, no. He needed that money
and these whores manipulated him.
876
00:45:14,282 --> 00:45:16,826
- They... they made him...
- Pathetic?
877
00:45:19,207 --> 00:45:23,628
Your father wasn't pathetic,
Jace, and neither are you.
878
00:45:27,629 --> 00:45:28,842
Listen to me, Jace.
879
00:45:29,547 --> 00:45:33,343
If you don't drop that knife, my
partner's gonna have to shoot you.
880
00:45:34,761 --> 00:45:36,178
And you know what they're
gonna say about you
881
00:45:36,179 --> 00:45:37,806
when they wheel you out
of here in a body bag?
882
00:45:39,224 --> 00:45:40,392
That you were pathetic.
883
00:45:42,185 --> 00:45:44,061
No, they won't.
884
00:45:44,062 --> 00:45:46,355
Yes, they will.
885
00:45:46,356 --> 00:45:48,108
Isn't that what you
thought about your father
886
00:45:48,775 --> 00:45:50,902
when you found out how
much he spent on camgirls?
887
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,324
You have one chance to change
how your story is told, Jace.
888
00:45:57,701 --> 00:45:59,536
And it starts with dropping that knife.
889
00:46:12,757 --> 00:46:13,758
Hands behind your back.
890
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:18,638
- Okay.
- All right, you're all right?
891
00:46:19,347 --> 00:46:21,349
- Yeah. Okay.
- Okay.
892
00:46:23,226 --> 00:46:24,686
- I got you.
- Thank you.
893
00:46:26,855 --> 00:46:29,315
Jace Russell, you have
the right to remain silent.
894
00:46:29,316 --> 00:46:32,736
Anything you say can and will be
used against you in the court of law.
895
00:46:35,989 --> 00:46:37,197
That was a risky move.
896
00:46:37,198 --> 00:46:38,782
How'd you know it would work?
897
00:46:38,783 --> 00:46:40,910
I didn't, honestly.
898
00:46:41,828 --> 00:46:43,163
I just had a feeling.
899
00:46:44,289 --> 00:46:45,622
I mean, the Fan is not Jace,
900
00:46:45,623 --> 00:46:47,334
and Jace is not the Fan, but...
901
00:46:48,752 --> 00:46:50,420
they fit the same profile.
902
00:46:57,594 --> 00:47:00,304
- Emily.
- Brian, what are you doing back here?
903
00:47:00,305 --> 00:47:01,513
Gather the team.
904
00:47:01,514 --> 00:47:03,182
There's something
you're gonna wanna see.
905
00:47:03,183 --> 00:47:06,477
You don't get to... Ugh.
906
00:47:06,478 --> 00:47:08,979
We really should be doing
this in the roundtable room.
907
00:47:08,980 --> 00:47:12,733
That is for this team, not
your random visits to Quantico.
908
00:47:12,734 --> 00:47:16,403
- What's going on?
- I went to see Voit today.
909
00:47:16,404 --> 00:47:19,531
You did what? What happened
to swearing off Sicarius?
910
00:47:19,532 --> 00:47:22,409
I did, but then he got
my ex-wife involved.
911
00:47:22,410 --> 00:47:24,162
So, I went down there to...
912
00:47:24,996 --> 00:47:26,956
I don't know what I was gonna do. But...
913
00:47:27,150 --> 00:47:29,626
while I was there, he gave me this.
914
00:47:30,377 --> 00:47:32,628
It's a recording of himself for the Fan.
915
00:47:32,629 --> 00:47:34,797
He wants me to play
it on my next podcast.
916
00:47:34,798 --> 00:47:35,924
But you quit the podcast.
917
00:47:38,134 --> 00:47:41,011
- Brian, you quit the podcast, right?
- Yeah.
918
00:47:41,012 --> 00:47:45,891
Yes, yes. But I realized
I could manipulate Voit
919
00:47:45,892 --> 00:47:48,343
if he thinks I'm manipulatable,
920
00:47:48,353 --> 00:47:50,604
which would give this team an advantage.
921
00:47:50,605 --> 00:47:52,148
Let me get this straight.
922
00:47:52,774 --> 00:47:54,859
You played Voit?
923
00:47:55,568 --> 00:47:56,778
I did.
924
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:01,408
This is Elias Voit.
925
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,952
And I have a message for my Fan.
926
00:48:05,787 --> 00:48:07,038
You're changing.
927
00:48:07,789 --> 00:48:09,331
You're evolving.
928
00:48:09,332 --> 00:48:10,808
You wanna know more about yourself,
929
00:48:10,818 --> 00:48:12,292
and that's why you're
reaching out to me.
930
00:48:12,293 --> 00:48:13,837
Well, I'm evolving too.
931
00:48:14,462 --> 00:48:19,259
And I've learned that you don't
have to give in to your urges.
932
00:48:19,926 --> 00:48:21,302
I've been where you are.
933
00:48:22,303 --> 00:48:24,847
Talk to me. I can help you
keep the monsters at bay.
934
00:48:24,848 --> 00:48:27,141
I'm...
935
00:48:27,142 --> 00:48:29,413
I'm trying...
936
00:48:29,423 --> 00:48:31,562
to make right with some
of the people I've hurt.
937
00:48:31,563 --> 00:48:37,277
And I think by stopping you from
becoming me, is how I can do that.
938
00:48:41,573 --> 00:48:44,575
Here is the Voit that we know and love.
939
00:48:44,576 --> 00:48:47,536
This asshole thinks he can do
our jobs better than we can.
940
00:48:47,537 --> 00:48:49,246
He's trying to get
the Fan to come to him.
941
00:48:49,247 --> 00:48:51,707
Well, yes, but that
raises the larger question.
942
00:48:51,708 --> 00:48:53,709
I mean, it was the
whole basis of my show.
943
00:48:53,710 --> 00:48:56,420
Did Elias Voit actually develop empathy?
944
00:48:56,421 --> 00:48:58,297
- Or was it all a sham?
- Exactly.
945
00:48:58,298 --> 00:49:01,968
And if it is a sham, how does it
affect the team member who helped him?
946
00:49:04,179 --> 00:49:07,973
The character testimony at Voit's
sentencing was an FBI agent.
947
00:49:07,974 --> 00:49:09,433
What are you talking about?
948
00:49:09,434 --> 00:49:13,061
There was a closed-door testimony
from an FBI agent supporting
949
00:49:13,062 --> 00:49:17,274
the theory that Voit had reformed
because of his brain trauma.
950
00:49:17,275 --> 00:49:18,358
Who was it?
951
00:49:18,359 --> 00:49:21,028
Well, the ID was blacked out,
but it led to Voit getting
952
00:49:21,029 --> 00:49:23,406
life in prison instead
of a needle in his arm.
953
00:49:25,158 --> 00:49:27,701
Is this news to you all?
954
00:49:27,702 --> 00:49:30,078
Brian, give us a moment.
955
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,207
We need to discuss this privately.
956
00:49:32,749 --> 00:49:34,250
My office, please.
957
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:40,924
Okay.
958
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:43,510
Who was it?
959
00:49:45,136 --> 00:49:46,345
Brain trauma?
960
00:49:46,346 --> 00:49:48,515
No, no. Absolutely not.
961
00:49:49,307 --> 00:49:53,685
Yes, I am a forensic psychologist,
but I would never testify to that.
962
00:49:53,686 --> 00:49:56,563
Someone not on the team,
maybe someone who...
963
00:49:56,564 --> 00:49:57,774
It was me.
964
00:50:08,701 --> 00:50:09,953
I'm sorry.
965
00:50:10,954 --> 00:50:12,997
I was terrified to say anything.
966
00:50:14,165 --> 00:50:15,707
That's why it was closed-door.
967
00:50:15,708 --> 00:50:18,043
That's why I've been so restless.
968
00:50:18,044 --> 00:50:19,461
I knew it was gonna come out.
969
00:50:19,462 --> 00:50:22,549
And... I-I knew how you'd feel about it.
970
00:50:24,425 --> 00:50:27,220
I wanted to tell you at the right...
971
00:50:28,179 --> 00:50:31,182
But I'm too tired to
keep it a secret anymore.
972
00:50:35,478 --> 00:50:37,020
It was me.
973
00:51:05,055 --> 00:51:10,055
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