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I think the one thing that would scare me the most is probably seeing a full

-body apparition and having it touch me or do anything to

come at me in some way.

I think what might scare me would be the fact that I would be able to see them.

I've never been able to see any presence of anything.

I mean, there's orbs, but I don't...

I think that's normally things in video or footage that I've captured.

I usually just think, oh, the light's just hitting the lens a certain way, but

other people might see it a different way.

Because I've seen pictures of people and their families and there's like an orb

above them. Well, that could just be a glare from the light or it could be, you

know, a past loved one. So we'll see.

People have experienced real supernatural things in their lives. But

what does the Bible say about these things?

To be honest with you, I'm not here to chase superstition. I'm here to speak

truth from the scriptures about the unseen world, the paranormal.

Now, when we think about fallen angels, we automatically think about Satan,

Lucifer, and demons.

And let me be very clear about something.

There are supernatural forces around us, all around us.

Good and evil.

But the Bible tells us that our real struggle isn't from

physicality. It's from the spiritual world.

I believe in science.

And I mean, I'm just skeptical because I was a reporter for decades covering the

state house and Congress. And I mean, there's nothing like hanging around a

bunch of politicians that will make you very, very wary.

But I love science, and there's a lot that's not understood.

Most of what there is is not understood.

And the more we understand, the more we know that we know very little.

I think you need to embrace the unknown.

That's what science is all about.

The things that have frightened me about this house, I don't try to challenge it.

I embrace it.

We should all embrace the unknown.

And curiously, you know, the creativity that brought us here is

the same creativity that produced the universe and evolution, and that's why

we're here.

You know?

You know, I've been living here since I was a kid.

Just been in the family for many years. And my mother and I moved back to the

house when I was like seven years old.

And that first week was a doozy.

I mean, there was all sorts of noises.

And, of course, old houses have a very strange smell about them. Each one is a

little bit different.

And I heard things. It was hard to sleep.

That first week, old houses make noises. I heard things in the woods. I heard

things inside the house. But after that, I sort of became acclimated to it. And I

just got to, you know, can't beat them, join them.

I embraced it.

And the more that I heard that I didn't understand, the more that I wanted to

understand.

There were several things over the years that did stand out.

There was a time when my mother left here and I was a kid of like 10 or 11. I

heard the piano suddenly start playing in the other room.

Nobody in there.

And I thought, what in the hell could that be? It wasn't good piano playing.

It was just playing. And I thought, that's got to be, we don't have any

house cats. Maybe a cat got into the house and it's balking on the piano

keys.

What do you know? I went in there and there was a cat.

walking on the piano keys.

I was taking a brief nap downstairs on the couch.

There was a bedroom directly above me, and I just drifted off

to sleep a little bit.

And I heard a child's footsteps walking

in the bedroom above me.

I don't do many drugs.

I wasn't drunk.

I heard something, and it was real, and it sounded exactly like a child's

footsteps. And I thought, what? Just take a deep breath and jump into it. You

can't think about it. I went upstairs.

There's nothing in that bedroom.

I encourage the team to look anywhere and feel it out to see

what they can find wherever.

The attic in particular, I mean, I know that there's something

there that I can't explain.

You want to go upstairs now?

There's some writing on the wall here.

It's like kids writing.

And some other down here. It's faded.

You saw the writing from the kids, from the little kid.

This is writing from when I was a kid.

Oops.

Okay. Let's see.

That's some radio equipment back here. My father was a radio operator.

Taught radio operation in high school for years.

This is some old shit.

He was also a land surveyor, so there's some land surveying stuff.

Razors. Those razors.

Cigarette lighter.

Dice. Everything a soldier needs.

This is interesting. These are maps of Europe.

Fucking maps of Italy. He dropped in Europe. In Italy.

You want me to show that?

Sure. Wow.

Really cool.

Is that cloth or is it just really kind of simple paper? It's cloth.

They were using it in World War II, but it's a World War I case.

My name is Gabe Matthews. I'm a certified paranormal investigator and

founder of the Truth Searchers Paranormal Investigators, where I'm the

lead investigator.

I'm also the owner of Greenville Ghost Tours. We do a downtown paranormal

walking tour in Greenville, South Carolina. I've been paranormal

investigating for about 2013.

What is that? Let me do math. Twelve plus years now.

I've always been into the paranormal since I was a child. I kind of woke up

out of the womb loving paranormal shows. I watched Casper the Friendly Ghost as

well as The Real Ghostbusters. And believe it or not, one of the first

movies I remember watching was Ghost Dad with Bill Cosby.

I did have a paranormal experience as a child.

I used to sleepwalk as a kid. So I used to go to bed in my bed and then wake up

somewhere else. So that in and of itself is a terrifying experience.

One night... I was sleeping in my bed, woke up out in the living room, and

there was a rocking chair and then there was like some wood, and I saw basically

an apparition.

And basically as soon as I saw it, I blinked my eyes and it was gone. I also

smelled smoke, like cigar smoke.

But no one in the house smoked cigars.

So this terrified me. I was very frightened.

You know, I later told my mother about this, and she said, oh, your grandfather

used to smoke cigars. So I kind of saw it as my grandfather kind of looking

over me. One of my favorite things that ever happened was in Gettysburg. It was

a hole-in-the-wall, nowhere location.

You know, everything in Gettysburg is haunted, and I was looking for

somewhere. And we just pulled up on this hotel and ended up talking to this girl.

I mean, it was very, very, very obvious when you walked into this certain

bedroom. Like, it felt like you walked in on her.

And so, like, I had to back myself back out of the room. But long story short,

we talked to her, and she was just saying how awesome it was that we were

there talking to her. She said that she had committed suicide, told me her name

and everything.

I talked to the maintenance guy the next day, and, like, he couldn't believe the

info that I had because I didn't have any of this before.

I couldn't have known that before.

So that was really interesting.

One of the spookiest things that ever happened to me was at my mom's house in

an investigation that we actually filmed where I was trying to think of, you

know, what's the craziest thing I could do. And that was to go upstairs, sit

with my back to the wall with all the doors open upstairs. A lot of things

happened, but it ended up with me being grabbed like so much that I thought my

girlfriend.

was grabbing my leg, like rubbing my leg, and then she stood up and walked

away, and I still felt it. And that really kind of freaked me out.

My name is Cassandra Dawn.

I'm a Christian, a mother, a wife, a veteran. I decided to do this

investigation because I've had a couple experiences in my life that were

unexplainable. It left me wondering a lot. I still do.

I have grown in my faith over the past few years, and there's a little bit of

conflict with that. I'm interested to see what could possibly happen tonight,

if anything.

So today I got here around 10, 10.30 a.m., and I did a walkthrough of the

house, and I found a display case with some military medals.

They belonged to a sergeant that served in the Army, and he was a paratrooper

and a gunner, serving from 1942 to 1945.

Today we have three veterans, United States Marine Corps, National Guard, and

Air Force.

So if the three of us sit around these medals, I believe we can draw this

sergeant. out and hopefully make contact with them. Well, I love making

documentary films and I love telling real and true stories.

And so this is kind of interesting to me because I'm a skeptic. I don't

necessarily believe in the spiritual world. I guess a way of confronting that

is like, you know, I'm with a group of people here that really believe in the

spiritual world and they're really convincing.

But I haven't had any experiences that make me personally think that it's real.

So as sort of a journalist, investigative, documentary-minded

person, this is a really interesting experience for me to see if I actually

see something that changes the way I think. The reason I'm here is I am

absolutely enthralled with the supernatural.

I do not necessarily...

go out of my way to seek it, but if there's an opportunity, I'm glad to take

it. So from tonight, I'm not really sure what I'm expecting.

I have come across a buddy of mine. He had recently lost a younger brother.

And I asked him about his brother. And the next thing I know, I felt chills

from my feet all the way up to my head. And I started speaking, but I don't

recall what I was speaking about.

And as soon as I came back to, I wasn't, I didn't have chills anymore.

And he told me it was time for me to go. And we were never speaking about that

again. But I would like to be able to explore more into that and see if I'm

able to communicate or speak for. or entities that are on this plane and

be able to tell their story.

There's a presence here, lots of history, and it seems very haunting to

me. Comforting to me to know that we are going to have a pastor here too.

pray over the production in the house prior to entering. If there are any

malevolent spirits or beings, I feel like that, I don't know if that will

help or hurt us. It might.

Make them mad?

Whether it's an apparition, disembodied voice, knocks, noises, something.

I am fully confident that we will experience something tonight based on

the history of this house.

Nothing scares me about it. I've had enough experiences to understand what it

involves, what surrounds the paranormal.

The darker, the scarier it is, the more I thrive on that.

I'm an empath.

My biggest fear in life is... not living my life, not being present and

not being centered.

and let it pass by me until my final moment.

What scares me most is being alone in the dark and possibly hearing something

or feeling something.

I did have a chance to walk around the house earlier to see if I got any

feelings about anything during the daylight. And the one room that I did

not go into, because as soon as I opened the door, I got an intense fear, was the

attic space.

I'm not really sure who would be the most scared tonight. If I had to guess,

I would probably say Cassandra after speaking with her. She is a little

nervous about it. She anointed herself before even coming, so I'm just...

Curious to see how it goes.

Cassandra will probably get the heebie-jeebies first.

My first pick was Cassandra.

Based on my experiences, the person who claims to be the least scared is the one

sometimes who's the most terrified. And same with the opposite. The person who

says they're the most scared, they're the most chicken shit, is the one who

stands their ground the most.

Oh, God. Who's going to get scared first tonight?

I just hope it isn't me, because that would be really embarrassing if I'm

coming in here the biggest...

skeptic and one of the biggest, strongest people here. How embarrassing

that would be if I get scared first.

I will probably get the heebie-jeebies first tonight just because, like I said

before, I'm already scared, nervous going into this just because of being

able to pick up on different vibes and feelings and the possible unknown that

may be lingering in the dark that will be waiting for us.

I think the person who's going to be scared the most tonight to the point of

running away is probably going to be me.

We're talking about dark places here.

And against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

So evil spirits in heavenly places.

Earth isn't just a natural place.

It's a spiritual battleground.

where we deal with these demons.

They're always around us each and every day.

I'm glad you're all here tonight.

I know you guys are doing a paranormal investigation, and I really wanted to

come down here and just pray with you guys before you guys get started.

I wanted to pray some Bible over you tonight and wish you the best in your

project. And now, if you would, just bow your heads with me and let's go to the

Lord in prayer.

Dear Heavenly Father, we just thank you for all that you do in our lives, dear

God. We thank you for your mercy.

We thank you for your grace, dear God. We thank you for the opportunity to come

together and gather here tonight in this home.

But we come here tonight, dear God, to recognize that you are Lord over all

things, seen and unseen.

Father, we ask now for your presence to cover each and every one of us, dear

God. Surround the cast, crew, and the entire team with your divine peace, dear

Father. Lord, we ask you now to place your heavenly angels around us to form a

hedge of protection for each and every one.

Father, remind us to put on the full armor of God as we go into battle

against darkness and evil spirits, dear God.

that we battle each and every day of our lives. Now in Jesus' name, I ask you to

rebuke any unclean spirit that may want to come and to cause fear or confusion

with anyone present here today. I also pray tonight to you, Father, that if

there's anyone here tonight that will feel the weight.

of the circumstances, dear Lord, if they feel that some type of stress or anxiety

comes upon them, dear God, that you would comfort them, dear Lord. I ask you

to come and comfort them. I ask you to draw nearer to them, dear God, so they

can feel the true spirit, the most powerful spirit in the world, dear God,

the Holy Spirit.

And know, dear God, that they can lean upon you in that very moment.

All they have to do, dear God, is to believe, to trust, and have faith in

you. And tonight, I do pray, dear God, that everything that is said and done in

this house tonight will find a way to glorify you, dear God. And I pray all

these things tonight in the mighty name of Jesus Christ.

Amen.

you know, investigate the whole house. We're going to find hot spots. We're

going to find evidence of paranormal.

Just kind of walking around and getting the feeling of the area.

I no doubt know that there's some hot spots and there's some energy here. I

don't know if it's nefarious, could be benevolent, but I think we will make

communication. And that's what my goal tonight is to make communication with a

spirit or an entity.

All right, well, here we are in the living quarters, or is it the death

quarters? We just had our first evidence. We were all sitting in the

room, and this door swung open.

So I thought we were discussing here with Sonny, Sonny Weather, and we were

going to do a flashlight test.

Do you want to introduce it?

Yeah, actually, I just put a flashlight over here if you want to tell them.

What it is or what it does. Sure. So we got a flashlight. We'll set it right on

the edge. And basically ghost being energy can kind of, you know, use their

energy to kind of turn on and off the flashlight. So typically we ask yes or

no questions or, you know, questions that can be answered with an on off.

Yes, no or black, white kind of answers.

So we'll just start very simply to see if we can make communication with the

spirit that we just kind of encountered.

So I think we should start with like.

Everybody just kind of introducing yourself just to kind of so that we're

not just barging in and asking questions to someone, you know, just kind of build

a rapport and see where that goes. So my name is Sonny, and I'm

excited to be here, and I appreciate anyone that wants to come and speak to

us or show even further that you're here.

Right. So we're capturing evidence live as we were talking. We have multiple

cameras here.

I'm Gabe Matthews, so I think I've been talking, but I didn't introduce myself.

Who's next?

Hi, I'm Aaron.

I am open to see if you guys are here.

If you want to speak to us, we are here to listen, and we're here to hear your

story. Hi, my name is Cassandra.

Thank you so much for allowing us.

In your home, William, and anybody else who may reside here,

we come here with the utmost respect.

Thanks.

And that sound that's going off, that's the REM pod that's detecting a

temperature change, is what that sound is.

And you mentioned feeling a cold spot earlier.

In fact, it was exactly after the door opened.

Yeah, immediately after that door opened, when I walked over to test it to

try to replicate it, I got full body chills. And it's hot in here.

It is sweaty hot. And we are getting some temperature fluctuations.

There's a flashlight over on that pedestal, but you can turn it on just by

touching it.

18.

You said if somebody's here, it said 18, does that mean 18 here?

Good question. And I want you all to speak up and say...

Join the conversation.

Say things.

Don't wait on us to say anything. We're just kind of riding it out.

And also with the REM pod going off on temperature, which just also was pointed

out that as soon as Cassandra started talking, it went off.

So I found that very interesting.

Because we have a lot of temperature fluctuations, I did bring a thermal

imaging camera in here to just kind of monitor any temperature changes.

Actually seems to be a hot spot over in that corner. Actually behind Cassandra.

As soon as I said your name too.

Yeah, and that's so funny because she's the one that has been the most vocal

about being scared.

Another thing with the REM pod and the main thing with it is it has an antenna

here, and if something gets close, it lights up. And if you go, that's a full

grab, like fully touching it.

But just as I get close to it, it goes off.

So same thing with the flashlight, like whatever energy can set that off.

Spirit, if you're here, if you could turn on the flashlight, let us know that

you're able to communicate.

I like the word of the day.

Spirit,

we saw you open the door earlier. We'd like you to open the door. Oh, thank you

for... Turn on the flashlight.

We now know that we can communicate.

Spirit, are you a child or an adult?

If you are over the age of 18, maybe turn on the flashlight. If you're a

child under the age of 18, stay off.

Or turn on the one on the pedestal.

Okay, so it seems to be in adult spirit.

So just to confirm, if you did turn that on, can you do that again?

I want to count down from three down to one.

Turn it on at 1.

3, 2, 1.

I've been watching you.

You don't have to be shy.

We're not here to get rid of you or anything like

that.

Keys.

Who are you here to communicate with?

Is it myself?

Sunny?

Is it Cassandra?

Aaron?

Kyler?

Joe?

The grave.

The grave?

Do you have any messages for us?

You have an important message.

Victim.

Were you the victim or did you have a victim?

If you were the victim, could you please turn on the light?

Alright, so it seems like you were a victim.

What were you a victim of?

Has anyone else ever seen that happen before?

Yeah, like a light coming on like that?

No.

What do y'all think about it?

Is that weird that it's coming on after you ask a question?

Yeah, would you like to ask some questions?

Are you stuck here?

of you are here with us.

Vehicle.

So these are cat balls.

They're some of the most inexpensive motion detecting devices that you can

get.

You can buy them at any pet store, Petco, Pet Supplies Plus. I buy them in

bulk, typically online.

But many people ask, you know, do they measure motion of a spirit? I actually

say no. I mean, ghosts just being energy can kind of make the light mechanism go

off, but it's what I believe.

But, yeah, you know, spirits seem to at times cause them to go off.

It seems that, you know, I'll go to a cemetery, and that seems to be when

they're most active.

But yeah, in rooms or times.

So... And that run pod went off at the same time? Same time the

flashlight came on.

Which is pretty interesting.

And that's another reason I like to put out multiple things.

Right. You know, so you have several things going at the same time.

Cassandra, are you getting anything on the... Are you seeing anything

interesting on the... I don't think so.

Okay. I don't really know what this is we're looking for.

Do you want to... I don't know.

I had enough.

Once again, the same question Cassandra asked. I'm afraid to talk.

There's no need to be afraid to talk with us.

I know personally I'm just here to get to know more of you guys' stories

because I find the history of you guys very important, of this building and

of this area.

Could you tell me a little bit more about what led to why

you're here?

A little bit about your story?

We're just trying to establish the best way to communicate with you. We know

that the light works.

What about knocking?

Can you finish this?

If you want us to leave the room, turn off the light.

If you want to stay here to keep communicating, leave it on.

Rat torture?

You were a victim.

Did it have to do with rat torture?

Never seen this say that.

That's an interesting thing.

Spirit, what year did you die?

Was it before 1900?

Or was it after 1900? If it was before 1900, if you could turn on the

flashlight.

If it was after 1900, if you could stay off.

Countdown to 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Sounds like it was before 1900.

So was it before 1800 or after that?

Actually, turn the light back off, please.

And let's start again.

If you could please turn off the flashlight.

Thank you.

So if it was before 1800, could you turn it back on?

And we'll count from five again.

Five, four, three, two, one.

So it's between 18.

I have many regrets.

1800, 1900.

What are some of your regrets?

Spirit, if you could touch one of these cat balls.

Lily.

Oh, I should have said it.

In my head, I was saying, like, tell us your name.

Somebody asked the name earlier.

You were thinking about it.

Lily. Yeah, I was betting that the camera audio doesn't catch it.

Spirit, is your name Lily?

If so, would you turn off the flashlight?

Three, two... I am death.

Go up.

I said death.

Go up.

The history of Will, the landowner, his mom's death.

Yeah.

What's your mom's name?

My mother's name was Jeanette.

Jeanette, is that you?

Are you okay with us being here?

William's here with us.

Yeah, feel free to speak up anytime, William.

Well, did your mom die in this house?

No.

Hmm.

Off and then on. Off and then on real quick.

Talking about being loved. Great.

That's cool.

Do you want William to know anything?

Go over there.

Yes. Will over there.

I know that deafness caused a lot of pain.

I could see her misery. She lost her hearing as an adult when I was a

kid.

I was a little bit younger than eight.

It's an extremely difficult thing for anyone to suffer through,

just on its own merits, not to mention being ostracized from

society and the difficulty in communicating.

And the difficulty of communicating with family members. It was difficult on me.

Changed me forever, for sure.

There is writing that... I'm with my children.

Okay.

The writing in the attic that Joe and I took some pictures of earlier, the

writing on the wall going up the stairs into the attic was by a young child.

I'm not sure who that was.

She was always there for me.

Even after losing her husband, you know, my dad, when I was like 18 months old,

she was a real trooper. She lost a hearing several years after that and

lost her mother and her husband the same week and then a hearing several years

after that. But she was a real trooper.

Always, you know, providing for me, doing what she could.

very strong woman, but very gentle in nature at the same time.

Should we move to a different part of the house?

There's a couple different spirits talking.

I think so too.

Because the messages are very different.

Right.

Some are geared towards William, which I think is his mother, and I think there's

Lily, but I think there's one other, at least one other besides Lily.

Maybe Elmer.

Because one keeps talking about bad things, and the other ones

seem a little more positive.

Yeah, I think there's multiple spirits, possibly a lot of spirits around, and

they're just kind of all communicating currently.

Can you tell us how many are in here,

or how many are in the house?

Maybe it's three.

Three.

Which is what you said.

You said maybe it's three, and then I was like, is it more than four?

It stayed off, and then it seemed like we were kind of talking to multiple

spirits. It seemed like a lot, but it kind of also seemed like three, didn't

it? Yes, I said three.

When you said three, light and?

Always.

There's always three.

Can you touch the antenna on that thing?

and one male spirit if that is true will you turn the light on if there are two

women spirits and one male spirit one man

can you turn the light on

Thank you.

If all three spirits with us are adults, can you please turn the light on?

Thank you.

They like you. They like you a lot.

I've always been a naturally sensitive person.

I consider myself somewhat of an empath. I pick up on people's feelings, moods,

vibes very easily.

I have always been that way since I was a kid.

That's probably what makes me a little bit of a scaredy cat is just feeling

those intense feelings wherever I'm at.

So I've always had lots of very intense dreams.

Some of them are very, very spiritual about demons and benevolent spirits.

But I never, I guess I always question the validity of that. It wasn't until I

lived in a house with my husband that we rented off base, and it was an older

home that was renovated, and he was deployed.

When he was deployed, I would hear lots of noises, but I just chalked it up to

being an older house. I was always feeling uncomfortable in that house, and

I would have my girlfriends come stay the night with me so I wasn't alone.

One of my friends who came was a very big Christian walking very

much in her faith, and she did not believe in ghosts.

I was sleeping one night, and she woke me up from my sleep terrified to death

and asked me to come outside with her.

I had a side screen and porch, and we used to go outside to smoke cigarettes

there.

And so I went outside with her. I was half asleep. And she told me she led

into the conversation by saying, you know, I'm a Christian. You know, I don't

believe in ghosts, but I think I just had an experience.

There was a white mist that came in front of me and I can't explain

what it was.

Not long after that happened, my husband returned from deployment and my sister

moved in with us.

and we were all eating dinner on the couch in the living room, looking out

the same door that leads into that screened-in porch.

It was a glass door.

All three of us at the same time saw a white mist go by the door.

We all stopped, and it was dead silent.

It was like we were all processing what had just happened.

And after a few minutes of silence, I was the first one to speak up, and I

said, did anybody else see that?

And everybody...

Slowly shook their head and agreed.

We couldn't figure out what it was. We tried to debunk it. We thought it was

possibly passing cars, lights going by.

So we sat there for the next 30 minutes watching lights go by and nothing

replicated it. In that same house, I had some very intense dreams. Saw some

things that were very scary to me that made me more of a believer in my faith

and grow stronger in my Christianity.

The most recent event that I had was...

helping my aunt clean a cabin in Bryson City, North Carolina.

It's a huge cabin. It had a huge common area.

And then on either side of the cabin, there was five or six rooms that were

individual, like a motel.

We were in the common area cleaning, and I had dusted all of the tables that the

lamps were sitting on, and she was off cleaning something else, and I came back

around to go back and dust the lamps.

And when I dusted all the lamps, they were turned on. It was broad daylight,

so there was no reason for the lamps to be on. I asked my aunt if she turned

them on, and she told me no, that she hadn't. And nobody had been there at

that house except for us because we were there cleaning for the next guest to

check in.

Ten streams I had was a sleep paralysis stream. It was broad daylight. I was

taking a nap on the couch.

I was about 19.

I knew I was dreaming. Everything looked the way it did in the dream that it did

in reality, although a cat ran by and did, like, a flip, so I knew it was a

dream. And for whatever reason, I could not move my body at all, and I felt this

benevolent spirit behind me. I couldn't even make a noise with my voice, so I...

tried to pray, but I couldn't get anything out because I couldn't use my

voice.

I reached deep down inside of my soul, and I could get out one note, and it was

just like a, ah, and I was able to get out that note, and I slowly rose from

laying down, and I could slowly move my left arm, and I did this.

Because whatever it was was behind me, and I was trying to turn my head.

And as soon as I got here, the phone rang, and I woke up from my dream. So I

never got to see what was standing behind me.

Spirits don't just come around at nighttime in the dark waiting for

somebody. I've had experiences during the day, a lot of intense dreams during

the day. And like I said earlier, when I was helping my aunt clean the cabin and

the lamps were turning on by themselves, that happened during the day.

So right now I'm using an SLS camera and I'm definitely picking up an NC here in

the woods.

This is a structured light sensor camera.

This specific one was from Relatively Paranormal and it just crashed.

This is a PSP-11 spirit box.

It was an upgrade model from a PSP-7, which was invented by Gary Galka.

There's a lot more features. This one has a louder speaker, so what we'll do

is we'll get a sweep going.

This uses a millisecond adjustable forward and reverse high-frequency sweep

technique coupled with proprietary white synthetic noise distributed between

frequency steps.

So it basically flips through radio stations and ghosts being energy can

interact. with the white noise between the radio frequencies.

So what we'll do is we'll get a sweep going.

Spirit, I'm Gabe. I'm here with Joe, Aaron, Bill, William.

We're out here.

This is a barn of former living quarters.

I want to communicate.

If you are, could you please tell us what is your name?

Spirit, if you're able to communicate, can you please give us a message?

How old were you when you died?

Evil.

Do you have any message for us here tonight?

Who's here with us?

Sergeant Christopher.

I'm Sergeant Birmingham, United States Marine Corps veteran.

Please let us know that you're here by any means.

Make a noise.

Knock on something.

Feel free to touch the back of my neck and my arms.

Are you here by yourself, Sergeant?

Are you with other soldiers?

Marines?

Sailors?

Airmen?

National Guard?

Coast Guard.

Sergeant, you got three American warriors here with you.

We have some expectations from you right now.

We thank you for your service and your sacrifice.

All that we ask is just let us know if you're here.

It's an honor to be in the presence of your medals.

Ear folded flag

Sargent

are you in the room with us?

It sound off sorry

My name is Bill Birmingham.

I'm the first assistant director, and I've stepped in front of the camera

today to tell my story that I have never discussed with anyone in the 53 years of

my life.

It began when I was a little kid, and my babysitter, her name was Mrs. Walsh,

and she was coming to come babysit us for about a week, and the night before,

I'd woken up in the middle of the night.

looked out my window, and I saw her standing on the sidewalk looking up at

me. I waved. She waved back.

And I went back to bed so I wouldn't get in trouble.

The next morning when I got up, I went downstairs, and my parents were very

upset. They were crying.

And they had told me that Mrs. Walsh had died the night before.

And since that moment, I have been an absolute believer in the paranormal.

My next experience...

I had lived in a farmhouse, running a farmhouse that was built before the

Civil War.

And while living there, I had two dogs, a flat coat black lab and a white German

shepherd. And over about a year, they would stand in front of the window

in the kitchen. They would sit and they would whine.

And they'd do that for about 10, 15 minutes until I would actually call them

away and they would just stop.

And they would do this over and over again periodically.

They also would go to our front door and would also whine, open the door, and

they'd run into this apple orchard and lie down in the field and whine until I

called them away.

And the final moment was one night I was asleep, and I heard a thud.

went downstairs, and a dictionary, Webster's dictionary, had fallen off the

shelf onto the floor.

So at that point, I contacted my landlord, and she told me that her great

-great-great-grandfather, his first name was Webster, and that in the apple

orchard, they actually have family that is buried in there.

The most powerful experience I had...

One night was when I was on patrol. I'm prior law enforcement.

And I was with the Metro Transit Police Department.

And around 3 to 4 a.m., I drove over to the Mount Iwo Jima Memorial.

The park closes around dusk.

And I normally drive around the park twice.

And it was a very nice night out.

So I did one circle to make sure no one was in there. As I was doing my second

circle around the Iwo Jima memorial, all my windows were rolled down, I didn't

have the radio on, and something to my right in the passenger seat caught my

attention.

As soon as I looked over, there was an army medic sitting there looking right

at me, and it felt as if he was looking through me.

But he was also just as confused as I was as if he kind of saw me.

And at that point, I jumped out of my car. It startled me so much.

And my car veered off the road and actually bumped into a tree.

And as I went back over to my police car, he was gone.

At that point, I had to call my sergeant and tell him that I'd fallen asleep at

the wheel.

It wouldn't have been a good idea to tell him that I believed I saw an Army

paramedic.

So I have had a couple experiences.

So me and four friends go to this old abandoned textile mill that's just like

essentially in our backyard.

But there's four of us, and we go in.

There's only one entrance in the back of it to go into, but I believe it's like

six stories.

And there's only one staircase, and the elevator is completely, like, crushed

in, and you can't use it at all.

But we go up, we go to the fourth floor, and you have to go through these huge

metal doors that are just hard to open.

But we walk in, we shut the door behind us, and to our right is this big open,

like, truck entrance so that they can unload.

And then in front of us is this, like, fenced area that you can still walk

through.

Almost the moment we get to the fence area, as we step through, we hear the

metal door behind us creak and then slam shut.

And I'll never forget it because our vibe totally switched up.

We instantly stopped laughing, stopped joking. We turn off our lights. We

crouch down.

So we think somebody's coming in after us. None of us are really super

spiritual.

We're waiting there five, ten minutes to see anything, hear anything, and just

nothing happens.

So eventually I just go, all right, I'm going to stand on three, and we're going

to run.

And we bolted out of there.

I did go back several times, and I did have some other experiences that weren't

as interesting.

or as meaningful that I super remember.

I do remember one where it was literally just me and one other friend going into

this really big part of it that was further off in the distance.

And the moment I stepped onto a staircase that was in this huge mill, we

heard a pipe just bang and clatter, and we immediately sprinted out of there.

You don't have to hide.

My name is Cassandra.

18.

Again, that's the second time tonight.

This is Silas who is talking first.

Silas, I'm trying to be out of the picture, but I am here in presence.

I am a firm believer in Jesus Christ, and I am a firm believer in

the Almighty.

Lied.

Come walk behind me and set off that motion alarm.

It's not going to hurt you. It just lets us know that you're here. Are you lost?

Are you stuck due to trauma?

What does the number 18 mean?

It'd be really cool if you made some noise and did something that's not.

One of our devices.

I've been here 150 years.

Wow.

Rem pod.

You can also turn on this flashlight that's behind me.

It's on top of the hamster cage.

I'm here next to you.

Lucifer.

He's trying to scare us.

You're not Lucifer.

That's crazy because when I first set that camera, when I turned it back on

and I set it down, it looked like a white mist came across.

I just got another cold chill too.

Over my neck.

It's been coming this way and now it just went that way.

Oh, fuck.

Yo!

Someone just touched you.

Under my fucking leg.

Did someone touch you? Was it a pinch or was it a... No, like something caressed

me.

Mindy, Mandy, Marissa.

I'm not sure of your name, but if you are, come and touch one of us.

Oh, shit.

Yeah,

the True Searchers is a paranormal investigative team, a group, you know,

me and people I've met along the years. And, you know, it's kind of ebbed and

flowed over the years because I've had friends, I guess, move away or, you

know, we'll get this. set up to do this cool investigation and then someone has

to work and then you don't do it. But then sometimes we'll go and we've

investigated Crybaby Bridge, the Poinsett Bridge.

We've investigated just random...

houses. I've actually got people calling me, telling me that their house is

haunted. We've went out to local homes. But all over. We've traveled around.

We've even done cryptid investigations. I've done some Bigfoot hunting with my

buddy Derek Henderson.

And yeah, lots of that.

I'm very into alien abductions, kind of looking up in the sky, seeing UFOs and

whatnot. So not just ghosts, but mostly ghosts.

Yeah, so Greenville Ghost Tours is a downtown paranormal walking tour.

We go through downtown Greenville. There's so many haunted spots.

Ghosts are everywhere, really, and there's a lot of history in Greenville.

There's just a lot of stories, and to bring that to people.

Fortunately, there wasn't a ghost tour downtown when I started in 2022, so

we've been running since then, and it's been a fun thing to kind of...

Get in the paranormal investigative mode and kind of teach people about

paranormal. You know, I consider myself to be a paranormal enthusiast, a

paranormal researcher, a paranormal investigator, a paranormal influencer.

But yeah, just teaching people about the paranormal and kind of raising awareness

for it. I love unexplained events, watching unsolved mysteries.

I want to believe, you know. So yeah, I do have...

I know science. I studied science, you know, and a lot of people see paranormal

investigation as like a pseudoscience. But, you know, using tools and kind of

investigating and using these devices to try to communicate and, you know, bring

some type of, you know, realistic approach to paranormal investigation.

And at the end of the day, to find evidence, to find the truth, that's

really what I'm after.

My favorite technique is probably...

essence method. It's just kind of a way to disconnect everything.

The person inside doesn't know what's being asked or what's going on, and the

answers sometimes are just very interesting.

I also like the flashlight.

It's just a regular little mini mag light.

I like to set it so that it's close to on, but not on. You can shake it around

and do stuff. It doesn't come on, but when you set it down...

and you start to ask questions, you can use it for like yes, no type of answers

usually. Or I'll set up, normally I'll have multiples, and you can set them

like yes, no, maybe, or like this one for this answer, or for that to get more

specific answers.

So what we're about to do is the Estes method, which was invented in Estes

Park, Colorado, which is where the Stanley Hotel is.

Basically, we're going to put noise-isolating headphones here on

William, and we're going to blindfold him so his senses will be...

deprived. And basically we have a spirit box. This is actually an S-box.

And I got it set up so it's flipping through stations.

And, you know, a spirit box is a, you know,

rugged, robust, portable device.

There's a proprietary white synthetic noise distributed between the

frequencies and goes being energy and kind of manipulate this frequency to

create words coming out of it. So we'll ask some questions and we'll get

responses and we'll see if we can get some communication between the device

and our questions.

So yeah, William, if you want to sit down and share.

And the sounds, if you're talking about two different dancing together

frequencies, I mean...

What's determining that? That's not constantly caused by a constant

generation by... Because I used to work in radio. I had a third-class operator's

license, and I studied this.

You're not talking about one particular transmitter putting out a signal, and

it's reaching this little piece of metal inside the receiver.

You're talking about a totally different phenomenon where the signal is bouncing

and is...

not quite being picked up and it's being interfered with by another signal at the

same time which is very in other words it's not a a solid

process that's controlled by um radio transmission it's happening

on its own according to what the waves want to do yeah

it's really cool when we ask a question and you The

words that you get out of it kind of answer it, and so we'll see if there is

some kind of synchronicity there.

A girlfriend from a few years back, we used to occasionally at night we would

listen to it, and she said it's just like signals all sort of dancing

together trying to figure it out. I think that's a very poetic way of

putting it. It's a physical process whereby the different signals, these

radio waves,

and they decide themselves, nothing else is determining that.

You know, it's not like the signal is so strong that it's going to the particular

target that you have a little piece of metal that's picking up that signal.

You have various signals, and they work it out in themselves.

Dancing together in the night, trying to figure it out.

Speak to William, tell him some words, and we can start this conversation.

Three years.

Three years.

What happened in three years?

Why is that significant?

Wake up.

Wake up from what?

Are you in here forever asleep?

Look out.

I had to say goodbye.

To who?

To what?

Someone close to you died.

Did you open the cabinet?

Please don't.

Alright, what we're going to do is an Estes triangulation. It's an experiment

that I've developed.

We're going to do two Estes methods at once while also having an obelisk. So

we'll have three different spirit communications.

Two through normal S's and then one through the oboe. So we'll be asking

questions and we'll see if there's some linkage between the three different

points of communication.

In this room earlier today, we were talking to three spirits.

It'd be great if each spirit could use each device to kind of communicate.

And we'll see if we can find some type of synchronicity.

So let us know. You know, we've been investigating here a lot of the night

and we're looking for answers.

This is your opportunity to give us those answers.

So speak up and tell us what you want us to hear.

Leave me alone.

We'll stop as soon as you give us, you know, some evidence

and... It's in the past.

Holy shit, that was creepy.

All the sounds stopped and it was breathing in my ear.

Are you threatening Sonny?

Stop, please.

Was a veteran.

You were a veteran, or... Do you want us to stop?

I think that.

Seriously.

You said

Go

to hell Anymore

Some of the fears that I have are possibly malevolent

spirits that want to harm us for whatever reason

I don't want to take any spirits home with me. Like I said, I'm a mother. I

have children and a husband, and I do believe in it. I know sometimes there

are spirits that do wish to do harm for whatever reason. I don't know if it's to

prove their existence or whatnot, but that does make me feel nervous for this

event. I'm extremely petrified of the dark because of...

What I can't see in the dark that can see me not necessarily the dark itself

I

Personally like I've said before

You know, demons do roam around unchecked by God. He

allows this to happen.

So if you guys are out here tonight and you're trying to catch something

paranormal or something, you know what I would tell you?

You probably found something paranormal.

There's forces around.

And if you guys are really searching that hard, if you're really searching

that hard to find some demon or some spirit walking around in this crazy old

house, There's a good chance you're going to find one.

Because God's going to allow it.

Because sometimes you need to be tested.

You need to be tested.

There's going to be people that are going to be tested in this house

tonight. And they're going to really feel it come across their spine. They're

going to have hairs stand up on their neck.

You're going to be tested.

You're going to be tested. And you're going to be tested hard. And you know

why? Because God is going to allow it.

Throughout history, people have had real experiences with the supernatural.

But let me ask you today.

What does the Bible say about these things?

You know, I'm not here to chase superstition. I'm here to speak the

truth from the Scriptures about the unseen world.

The paranormal, if you will. When we start talking about God and His

place in the supernatural world, let me be very clear with you.

Listen to me very carefully.

We are around...

supernatural forces all day long let me tell you some good and some evil

but you know the bible tells us that our real struggle isn't with our physical

bodies it's spiritual it's all spiritual where our problems come from

now with that being said i want to take you to the lord's word and i want you to

hear what the scriptures say here about The unknown world. I'd like to read from

you directly from the Bible. From Ephesians chapter 6 verse 12.

For we are not fighting against flesh and blood enemies.

Not flesh and blood enemies.

Is this for real?

We're talking about spirits here. But against evil rulers and authorities of

unseen world.

Against mighty powers in the dark world. Against evil spirits in the heavenly

places. Now who would think that there would be evil.

Spirits in heavenly places.

I found that when I started reading the Bible, I found a lot of this kind of

hard to understand. Let me tell you that Satan is real, people. Satan is real

there. This Bible speaks more about hell and damnation and Hades more than it

does heaven.

So I'm speaking to your heart today, people.

I want you to understand as you guys are chasing around spirits and superstitions

around this house today. I want to tell you some things that are true that comes

from the word of God. And I want you to hear it.

And I want you to hear it clearly.

Because it's very important for your salvation.

You need salvation in your life. And there's only one way to receive that

salvation is to believe and to trust in God himself.

And God is in battle at all times against the evil spirits.

Satan, Satan, Lucifer was cast down like lightning out of the sky.

And he took one third of the heavenly angels with him. Who are the demons that

walk this world today, tempting us and making us sin in the world today. And

the Bible says in this way, he disarmed the spirits.

And rulers and authorities.

He shamed them publicly by the victory over them on the cross.

Now we talk about Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ came.

He was crucified for our sins.

He was punished for something he didn't do. He lived a perfect life.

But he paid the price for us on the cross.

And this is where this victory was won over evil.

But the truth is that Jesus Christ reigns over all spirits.

And in him we have victory, we are safe, and we find that we are covered

by him, Jesus Christ.

For God did not spare even the angels who sinned.

He threw them into hell.

In gloomy pits of darkness where they are being held until day of judgment.

Now you see evil spirits, most of them have been judged, they've been

restrained, but there's still some of them walking around each and every day.

And we'll go to 1 John 4.

Dear friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit.

You must test them to see if the Spirit they have comes from God.

So we have to test the spirits.

For there are many false prophets in the world.

And here's the thing. We don't test spirits by our feelings.

We test spirits by the truth of God.

That's how we test the spirits. The Bible doesn't care how you feel.

It's what the Word of God says.

And look, if you're out there today and you're a part of this documentary, just

know that the most powerful spirit in the world is the Holy

Spirit. You know what? I just find myself really kind of creeped out here

talking about the Bible here when you guys are actually trying to find demonic

forces in this house.

You know, I wake up each and every day thinking God for his creation.

And now I'm around where my friends, people that I know that are in this home

doing this film about demonic spirits.

How do I really feel about that? If I'm going to be creeped out, that's what I'm

going to be creeped out about.

Is that my friends are dealing with this. They want to find out if these

supernatural forces really truly exist.

They didn't have to come to this creepy house to find that.

I could have told you that myself.

It says it right here in the book.

Yeah, I mean, I certainly do believe that, you know, we can't explain

everything in this world.

And so I think, you know, if you guys are chasing, okay, let's say you're not

chasing after everything demonic, okay?

Not the paranormal. Maybe you're just going after, you know, just something,

something, an after effect of something that may be lingering in this home, in

this old.

decrepit home maybe something from the past you know certainly spirits are

hanging around but the bible does tell us that you know there's not an in

-between place after death You go to two different places. You either go to,

first you either go, if you're a non-believer, you're going to go to a

place called Hades.

And if you are a believer when you die, you're going to go to the place called

Abraham's bosom. And you're going to be there until the second coming. When the

rapture comes, he's going to take everyone out, all the people that he

believes in, he's going to take them out. To be perfectly honest, I think you

probably are seeing things that...

I know when you say about when someone died, maybe like 400 years ago, is there

something left over from their spirit that can hang around?

I can tell you something that's really creepy. And when I was a kid, when my

grandfather passed away, he loved my sister. I wasn't born yet.

And then he always told my parents that if there was any way that he could come

back to visit them, he would.

My dad woke up in the middle of the night and all the doors in the inside of

the house were open. And beside her crib, they had pulled out the dresser

drawers. And all the dresser drawers were stacked beside the crib.

Now, do I believe that it was my grandfather coming back?

No, I don't. I don't believe because I believe in the word.

I'm not exactly sure what you guys will find tonight.

But I believe whatever you find tonight will be, you'll find it because God

wanted you to find it.

I tried to put myself when I first heard about this investigation about

you guys are doing it. To be perfectly honest, me personally, and I'm giving

you my personal opinion as a believer in Jesus Christ, I would not try

to summons up.

spirits of any kind or anything of that nature. I personally wouldn't do it. I

think you guys, if you guys want to put a project together and you know,

sometimes what can happen with what you guys are doing is trying to chase these

ghosts and spirits and demons and whatnot.

Sometimes it's, I just keep going back to it. My personal opinion, something is

going to happen to someone tonight.

And they're going to have that feeling of uncertainty in their lives. And I

just feel like, I feel like something good is going to come from this. It

wouldn't be in your best interest as far as I'm concerned to chase these spirits.

That's just who I am.

I don't look down upon you guys.

I wish you guys all the luck in the world with your project.

But I would stick to chasing Jesus and the Word of God.

I think there's a lot of evidence to suggest that there are spirits here

with us.