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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,798 --> 00:00:08,675 [solemn music playing] 2 00:00:08,758 --> 00:00:13,179 [man] Going against a big company like Boeing does not happen every day. 3 00:00:13,263 --> 00:00:14,222 [beeps] 4 00:00:14,305 --> 00:00:15,557 [woman] Raise your right hand. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,309 Do you solemnly swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, 6 00:00:18,393 --> 00:00:20,103 the whole truth and nothing but the truth? 7 00:00:20,186 --> 00:00:21,021 I do. 8 00:00:22,731 --> 00:00:25,316 {\an8}Boeing will fight you to the bitter end. 9 00:00:25,817 --> 00:00:31,489 So what he was instructing people to do was violate rules and regulations 10 00:00:31,573 --> 00:00:36,327 that they could be actually held liable, criminally charged for. 11 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:40,874 We could very well be putting the public at risk. 12 00:00:40,957 --> 00:00:44,836 {\an8}The intensity of the implications of what he was testifying about 13 00:00:44,919 --> 00:00:46,838 made me take a pause. 14 00:00:47,964 --> 00:00:50,091 John was a brave guy for speaking out. 15 00:00:51,009 --> 00:00:55,847 But I personally thought to myself that this shit could get somebody killed. 16 00:00:56,347 --> 00:00:57,515 [thunder rumbles] 17 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:04,230 We were scheduled for John to continue the deposition the next morning. 18 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:06,608 [solemn music continues] 19 00:01:06,691 --> 00:01:10,612 But at ten o'clock, John had not arrived yet. 20 00:01:12,197 --> 00:01:14,157 So I called the hotel… 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,075 [phone ringing] 22 00:01:15,158 --> 00:01:17,577 …and asked to be put through to his room. 23 00:01:18,661 --> 00:01:20,497 And the phone just rang. 24 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:23,917 I asked if someone can go up 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,128 and do a check to see if he was still sleeping. 26 00:01:27,712 --> 00:01:29,839 They said, "No, he's not there." 27 00:01:31,174 --> 00:01:33,676 I asked, "Is his truck outside?" 28 00:01:34,177 --> 00:01:40,308 And the manager came back on the phone and said she had gone out to his truck 29 00:01:40,391 --> 00:01:42,936 and looked at him from the passenger side. 30 00:01:44,771 --> 00:01:47,607 And that's when she called 911. 31 00:01:51,903 --> 00:01:52,946 [solemn music fades] 32 00:01:53,029 --> 00:01:55,198 -[siren wailing] -[dramatic music playing] 33 00:01:55,281 --> 00:01:58,660 {\an8}[reporter 1] Boeing has given the world yet another reason to fear flying. 34 00:01:58,743 --> 00:02:01,788 {\an8}Several of the company's new Dreamliner planes have caught on fire. 35 00:02:01,871 --> 00:02:05,792 {\an8}[reporter 2] One of the Boeing 777's engines failed minutes after takeoff. 36 00:02:05,875 --> 00:02:11,047 {\an8}[man] And this is my parents' house after a 777 engine blew up in the sky. 37 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:13,842 {\an8}[reporter 3] A hundred and twenty-nine passengers were evacuated. 38 00:02:13,925 --> 00:02:15,552 {\an8}Five people were injured. 39 00:02:15,635 --> 00:02:19,055 {\an8}[reporter 4] Fifty injured after a flight lost control midair. 40 00:02:19,139 --> 00:02:22,016 {\an8}[reporter 5] One passenger was killed from an explosion. 41 00:02:22,517 --> 00:02:26,229 {\an8}[reporter 6] These are incredibly dangerous things that continue to happen. 42 00:02:27,730 --> 00:02:30,733 {\an8}[reporter 7] When you see news story after news story, incident after incident, 43 00:02:30,817 --> 00:02:33,069 {\an8}you wonder how Boeing is still in the air. 44 00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:34,904 {\an8}[dramatic music continues] 45 00:02:43,246 --> 00:02:45,665 [music fades] 46 00:02:51,796 --> 00:02:54,799 {\an8}I'm that kid that still looks up at airplanes every time I hear one. 47 00:02:54,883 --> 00:02:57,010 {\an8}"Oh my God!" [chuckles] Yeah. 48 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:04,434 I always loved aviation. 49 00:03:04,517 --> 00:03:06,144 [intriguing music playing] 50 00:03:06,227 --> 00:03:09,230 My dad worked on a F-14. 51 00:03:10,106 --> 00:03:13,401 So I always would go to the gates and watch the airplanes fly off. 52 00:03:15,528 --> 00:03:17,655 Growing up in the Seattle area, I always thought 53 00:03:17,739 --> 00:03:19,699 that I would eventually work at Boeing. 54 00:03:21,534 --> 00:03:24,329 I was very happy when Boeing recruited me out of school. 55 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:27,749 {\an8}Boeing was a fantastic company. 56 00:03:28,917 --> 00:03:32,795 If you had your Boeing shirt on, people would come up to you and talk to you. 57 00:03:33,421 --> 00:03:34,756 It was just a sense of pride. 58 00:03:34,839 --> 00:03:35,673 [engine rumbles] 59 00:03:35,757 --> 00:03:38,718 [launch announcer] We have ignition. We have liftoff. 60 00:03:39,594 --> 00:03:42,055 [man 1] I was a rocket scientist for a long time, 61 00:03:42,138 --> 00:03:45,433 but I wanted to move to airplanes. 62 00:03:46,392 --> 00:03:48,228 {\an8}And I wanted to work 63 00:03:48,311 --> 00:03:50,730 {\an8}in the best airplane manufacturer in the world. 64 00:03:51,773 --> 00:03:55,360 {\an8}[reporter 1] Over a century, Boeing transformed travel across the globe. 65 00:03:55,443 --> 00:03:58,363 {\an8}[reporter 2] The biggest aerospace company in the world. 66 00:03:58,446 --> 00:04:00,573 {\an8}Really, I was proud working for Boeing. 67 00:04:00,657 --> 00:04:02,742 I'm still proud working for Boeing. 68 00:04:04,118 --> 00:04:05,954 [man 2] Boeing changed my life. 69 00:04:06,704 --> 00:04:08,748 {\an8}We were really poor growing up. 70 00:04:09,874 --> 00:04:13,544 And the financial trajectory just totally changed. 71 00:04:13,628 --> 00:04:19,092 Working at Boeing, to have a job there, it was really a badge of honor. 72 00:04:19,175 --> 00:04:20,218 [dramatic music playing] 73 00:04:20,301 --> 00:04:23,596 [narrator] This is Boeing. They build airplanes. 74 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,182 And always there is one idea, 75 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:31,104 make everything just a little better than it really needs to be. 76 00:04:32,897 --> 00:04:38,194 [Meyers] Boeing Company was very unique in that if there was ever a dispute, 77 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,905 the quality department made the final decision 78 00:04:40,989 --> 00:04:43,741 as to whether or not to sign off on the work. 79 00:04:43,825 --> 00:04:46,160 -[man] Okay, so we're ready to go, right? -Yes. 80 00:04:46,661 --> 00:04:50,665 You had, like, two or three eyes on everything that you did 81 00:04:50,748 --> 00:04:53,710 to just make sure it was accurate. 82 00:04:53,793 --> 00:04:56,170 I don't think that's gonna work. I really don't. 83 00:04:56,254 --> 00:04:59,132 [Mohawk] Back in those days, quality was the brakes of the system. 84 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:02,552 If there was a problem, quality managers stopped the line. 85 00:05:03,594 --> 00:05:05,221 Management had your back. 86 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:07,682 -Have the guys stand by till we're ready. -Okay. 87 00:05:07,765 --> 00:05:10,101 -[drill whirs] -[dramatic music continues] 88 00:05:10,184 --> 00:05:13,813 Then all of a sudden, that whole atmosphere changed. 89 00:05:16,482 --> 00:05:20,320 So what is it like to be the CEO? To arrive? What's day one there? 90 00:05:20,403 --> 00:05:22,363 What did you find when you arrived at Boeing? 91 00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:24,574 The approach was to start at the beginning. 92 00:05:24,657 --> 00:05:27,702 That the culture needed a ground-up discussion. 93 00:05:27,785 --> 00:05:30,830 -[continues indistinctly] -[man 1] The decline of Boeing. 94 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:35,960 You can trace a lot of it right back to the hiring of the CEO, Jim McNerney. 95 00:05:36,753 --> 00:05:38,713 He seemed the perfect candidate. 96 00:05:39,213 --> 00:05:44,135 {\an8}He had gone to Yale to do his BA and gone to Harvard to do his MBA. 97 00:05:44,218 --> 00:05:48,973 Jim McNerney looked like a U.S. senator from central casting. 98 00:05:51,434 --> 00:05:56,105 {\an8}[man 2] Jim McNerney was a long-time executive at General Electric 99 00:05:56,189 --> 00:06:02,111 {\an8}and a protégé of arguably the most influential CEO of the 20th century, 100 00:06:02,195 --> 00:06:03,821 a man named Jack Welch. 101 00:06:03,905 --> 00:06:07,867 {\an8}I'm part, like so many others are, of an American dream. 102 00:06:08,451 --> 00:06:12,955 {\an8}[Gelles] Jack Welch was the first CEO of a major American company 103 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:16,167 to focus on maximizing profits at all costs. 104 00:06:17,168 --> 00:06:23,383 He was quick to institute outsourcing, offshoring, mass layoffs. 105 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:25,551 [Welch] The best thing you can do to an employee, 106 00:06:25,635 --> 00:06:30,807 as early as you know they're the bottom ten, let them know. 107 00:06:30,890 --> 00:06:36,062 Famously, Jack Welch at GE would let the bottom 10% go every year. 108 00:06:36,145 --> 00:06:39,440 Always have people nervous about their jobs. 109 00:06:40,024 --> 00:06:43,361 [Gelles] With all of these strategies, Jack Welch turned GE 110 00:06:43,444 --> 00:06:46,864 into the most valuable company in the world. 111 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:51,077 The kind of company that almost every other American corporation 112 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,412 looked up to. 113 00:06:54,539 --> 00:06:57,333 And the Boeing board was no exception. 114 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:03,506 {\an8}I knew I wanted to run something. I didn't know what it was. 115 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:08,469 [Gelles] When McNerney takes over, Boeing goes all in 116 00:07:08,553 --> 00:07:12,682 on the Jack Welch-style "profits above all else." 117 00:07:12,765 --> 00:07:13,891 [intriguing music playing] 118 00:07:13,975 --> 00:07:18,521 He was also now tasked with developing a new airplane. 119 00:07:18,604 --> 00:07:20,815 [reporter] The new 787 hasn't been built yet, 120 00:07:20,898 --> 00:07:23,818 but Boeing is so certain of its creature comforts, 121 00:07:23,901 --> 00:07:25,403 it calls it the Dreamliner. 122 00:07:26,696 --> 00:07:29,407 [Gates] To design and build the 787, 123 00:07:29,490 --> 00:07:32,952 it was going to cost approximately $10 billion. 124 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:36,122 But the Boeing board didn't want to spend that. 125 00:07:36,956 --> 00:07:38,374 [computer beeps] 126 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:40,126 [printer buzzes] 127 00:07:40,209 --> 00:07:42,462 A source gave me internal documents 128 00:07:42,545 --> 00:07:46,674 showing that Boeing's plan was to build this plane for $5 billion, 129 00:07:47,175 --> 00:07:49,927 half of what it would normally have cost. 130 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,807 [intriguing music continues] 131 00:07:54,891 --> 00:07:57,518 [Meyers] Boeing was always known for the engineering 132 00:07:57,602 --> 00:07:59,854 and the building of their airplanes. 133 00:08:00,855 --> 00:08:04,734 The real big shift was during the 787. 134 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:08,863 We found out that they were going to be outsourcing 135 00:08:08,946 --> 00:08:12,992 major sections of the airplane to save money. 136 00:08:13,576 --> 00:08:16,454 [Irvin] Mid-body section was built in Italy. 137 00:08:16,537 --> 00:08:18,915 [Salehpour] Wings and batteries from Japan. 138 00:08:18,998 --> 00:08:22,835 [Meyers] From South Korea, wingtips and the aft fuselage parts. 139 00:08:22,919 --> 00:08:25,838 The outsourcing was almost the entire airplane. 140 00:08:28,591 --> 00:08:32,386 [Mohawk] You knew that was gonna have a direct effect on safety and quality. 141 00:08:33,804 --> 00:08:37,850 We no longer have the immediate control about the safety of those parts. 142 00:08:37,934 --> 00:08:41,062 We just have to accept what is given to us and put them on the airplane. 143 00:08:43,314 --> 00:08:46,234 [Gates] Parts started coming in from these suppliers… 144 00:08:46,317 --> 00:08:48,736 [solemn music playing] 145 00:08:48,819 --> 00:08:52,907 …and the plan was the plane would be snapped together in three days. 146 00:08:56,827 --> 00:09:00,414 The first time Boeing joined the two fuselage barrels together, 147 00:09:00,915 --> 00:09:02,375 somebody sent me a picture. 148 00:09:02,458 --> 00:09:04,794 -[camera clicking] -[solemn music continues] 149 00:09:06,462 --> 00:09:08,839 There was a huge gap between the two. 150 00:09:11,717 --> 00:09:13,886 {\an8}The problem was that some of these companies 151 00:09:13,970 --> 00:09:16,556 {\an8}couldn't do what Boeing hired them to do. 152 00:09:17,682 --> 00:09:20,768 They couldn't produce the parts they were supposed to produce. 153 00:09:22,895 --> 00:09:23,854 It went horrible. 154 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:28,734 Too much of the airplane was outsourced. 155 00:09:31,696 --> 00:09:33,406 Nothing snapped together. 156 00:09:34,949 --> 00:09:38,077 And the delays were just one after the other. 157 00:09:39,370 --> 00:09:43,499 So Boeing wanted to build a second 787 assembly line 158 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:46,002 in an effort to increase production. 159 00:09:47,336 --> 00:09:49,922 {\an8}[intriguing music playing] 160 00:09:50,006 --> 00:09:51,924 {\an8}Boeing had started in Seattle 161 00:09:52,008 --> 00:09:54,218 and had never built a plane anywhere else. 162 00:09:54,885 --> 00:09:57,138 [Gelles] This was a place where Boeing had 163 00:09:57,221 --> 00:10:01,976 perhaps the most skilled aviation manufacturing workforce in the world. 164 00:10:03,644 --> 00:10:06,439 But it was largely unionized. 165 00:10:07,648 --> 00:10:10,359 And McNerney hated unions. 166 00:10:11,319 --> 00:10:13,446 They cost Boeing more money. 167 00:10:13,946 --> 00:10:15,823 And now in 2009, he's saying, 168 00:10:15,906 --> 00:10:20,202 "Well, we're gonna build a second 787 line in South Carolina." 169 00:10:20,286 --> 00:10:23,914 {\an8}I am always proud to say we don't have unions in South Carolina 170 00:10:23,998 --> 00:10:26,334 {\an8}because we don't need unions in South Carolina. 171 00:10:26,417 --> 00:10:28,753 [crowd applauding, cheering] 172 00:10:28,836 --> 00:10:33,633 [Gelles] This was, again, Boeing leadership making decisions, 173 00:10:33,716 --> 00:10:37,928 not in the name of safety but in the name of cost savings, 174 00:10:38,012 --> 00:10:40,181 in the name of corporate profits. 175 00:10:40,264 --> 00:10:42,600 {\an8}What have you learned from your engineers 176 00:10:42,683 --> 00:10:46,520 {\an8}about bringing it back and reconstructing the old Boeing 177 00:10:46,604 --> 00:10:47,855 {\an8}that we all grew up with? 178 00:10:47,938 --> 00:10:50,608 {\an8}Well, we're not going back to the old Boeing. 179 00:10:52,276 --> 00:10:57,782 -[man] Five, four, three, two, one. -[crowd] …two, one. 180 00:10:57,865 --> 00:10:59,492 -[man] Cut! -[crowd cheers] 181 00:10:59,575 --> 00:11:02,328 [Gates] When Boeing set up the plants in South Carolina, 182 00:11:02,411 --> 00:11:04,455 {\an8}there was no aviation business there. 183 00:11:05,122 --> 00:11:08,125 {\an8}And so, of course, they didn't have experienced workers. 184 00:11:09,794 --> 00:11:14,215 They constantly were sending experts from the Seattle area. 185 00:11:14,298 --> 00:11:16,008 [solemn music playing] 186 00:11:16,092 --> 00:11:17,843 John Barnett was one of them. 187 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:23,641 [beeps] 188 00:11:24,767 --> 00:11:26,686 {\an8}When I first started with Boeing, 189 00:11:26,769 --> 00:11:30,523 {\an8}a group of us were standing around and talking about where you're from. 190 00:11:31,023 --> 00:11:33,150 {\an8}I was telling them that I'm from Louisiana. 191 00:11:35,111 --> 00:11:37,321 One of my buddies popped off, 192 00:11:37,405 --> 00:11:41,117 "Well, you're just an old swamp dog from Louisiana, ain't you?" [laughs] 193 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,494 You know, from then on, I was "Swampy." 194 00:11:43,577 --> 00:11:44,954 [laughs] 195 00:11:46,414 --> 00:11:50,418 I was a quality manager in Seattle for 15 years. 196 00:11:52,294 --> 00:11:54,130 I was actually one of the first quality managers 197 00:11:54,213 --> 00:11:58,634 brought down to Charleston to help set up the new Dreamliner site. 198 00:12:00,636 --> 00:12:04,640 As a quality manager, it's my job to make sure the airplane's built right. 199 00:12:06,016 --> 00:12:10,062 John was a solid quality man, an airplane man. 200 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:12,815 We were both quality managers. 201 00:12:13,315 --> 00:12:14,525 We were good friends. 202 00:12:15,025 --> 00:12:17,695 I used to buy gator tail by the pound from John 203 00:12:17,778 --> 00:12:19,739 'cause he was a Louisiana boy. 204 00:12:20,823 --> 00:12:22,199 [Barnett] Me being a Southern man, 205 00:12:22,283 --> 00:12:25,453 South Carolina was my opportunity to get close to my family. 206 00:12:26,495 --> 00:12:28,873 {\an8}We always said he was loud and proud. 207 00:12:28,956 --> 00:12:31,917 {\an8}You knew when he walked in the room because he was loud. [laughs] 208 00:12:32,001 --> 00:12:33,627 {\an8}-Yeah, Swamp Dog. -[chuckles] 209 00:12:35,963 --> 00:12:40,050 [man] When I moved to Charleston and met John Barnett, 210 00:12:40,134 --> 00:12:43,763 I could see that we were from the same cloth, 211 00:12:43,846 --> 00:12:48,225 {\an8}that quality doesn't take a back seat to anything. 212 00:12:48,309 --> 00:12:50,853 [intriguing music playing] 213 00:12:50,936 --> 00:12:56,150 John and I really got to know each other through our recruitment trips. 214 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:03,866 We would interview in excess of 100 people in a week. 215 00:13:05,201 --> 00:13:06,702 {\an8}We were told from the beginning 216 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:09,663 {\an8}they didn't want the union influence in Charleston. 217 00:13:10,748 --> 00:13:13,751 {\an8}And part of the agreement that Boeing made with South Carolina 218 00:13:13,834 --> 00:13:16,670 was they would hire the majority of the employees locally. 219 00:13:17,254 --> 00:13:18,881 We was doing job fairs. 220 00:13:18,964 --> 00:13:21,467 We were hiring people straight out of college. 221 00:13:23,385 --> 00:13:26,388 Pretty much we got to where if you knew what a screwdriver was, 222 00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:27,932 you was hired by Boeing. 223 00:13:28,599 --> 00:13:30,434 [man 1] What do you think about the people here? 224 00:13:30,518 --> 00:13:31,519 [man 2] They fucking suck. 225 00:13:31,602 --> 00:13:33,395 [man 1] They suck. Not everyone of course. 226 00:13:33,479 --> 00:13:36,273 [man 2] Not everyone, but the majority of them here fucking suck. 227 00:13:36,357 --> 00:13:38,776 [man 1] They're just punching a clock, that's my opinion. 228 00:13:38,859 --> 00:13:40,152 [man 2] Yeah, it's all they do. 229 00:13:41,612 --> 00:13:43,239 [Barnett] I went to my leadership and said, 230 00:13:43,322 --> 00:13:45,533 "These people aren't being trained the way they should." 231 00:13:45,616 --> 00:13:48,285 "Nothing about procedures, FAA requirements." 232 00:13:48,369 --> 00:13:51,455 "They're just being trained how to rubber-stamp paperwork." 233 00:13:52,456 --> 00:13:55,084 But my leadership, they didn't care about training. 234 00:13:55,167 --> 00:13:57,545 They just wanted product pushed out the door. 235 00:13:59,213 --> 00:14:03,092 Charleston had a workforce that simply didn't know how to construct 236 00:14:03,175 --> 00:14:06,428 one of the most complicated machines in the world. 237 00:14:06,512 --> 00:14:09,974 Mistakes started piling up almost immediately. 238 00:14:13,811 --> 00:14:15,938 [solemn music playing] 239 00:14:16,021 --> 00:14:19,400 [Seitz] I was walking through the production facility, 240 00:14:19,483 --> 00:14:25,114 and I heard a very loud pounding. 241 00:14:25,197 --> 00:14:27,783 [metallic pounding] 242 00:14:29,285 --> 00:14:34,415 As I got closer, I witnessed a manager taking a sledgehammer 243 00:14:34,498 --> 00:14:39,295 to pound a pin in a landing gear. 244 00:14:40,087 --> 00:14:43,883 I thought to myself, I need to record what's going on here. 245 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,096 I took that camera and showed John Barnett. 246 00:14:49,847 --> 00:14:52,016 [solemn music continues] 247 00:14:52,099 --> 00:14:55,227 [Barnett] You don't use a sledgehammer to put together an airplane. 248 00:14:55,311 --> 00:14:58,314 {\an8}The fuse pin had to be just beat to hell. 249 00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:02,443 {\an8}And actually, back in the '90s, we had issues with those pins, 250 00:15:02,526 --> 00:15:04,236 {\an8}cracking from fatigue. 251 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,364 [reporter] The Israeli El Al jet slammed into the building Sunday 252 00:15:07,448 --> 00:15:09,033 after two engines fell off. 253 00:15:09,617 --> 00:15:13,329 Boeing, the company that built the jumbo jet, is now urging all airlines 254 00:15:13,412 --> 00:15:17,750 to inspect the pins that hold the engines to the wings of 747s. 255 00:15:18,834 --> 00:15:22,755 [Barnett] There's so many possibilities for fractures in that, it's unreal. 256 00:15:23,464 --> 00:15:27,426 John said, "Man, you gotta take this to upper management." 257 00:15:29,011 --> 00:15:33,974 I expected them to reprimand this manager and make it right. 258 00:15:35,643 --> 00:15:39,355 Instead, I was instructed to get rid of the video. 259 00:15:40,648 --> 00:15:42,858 [camera beeping] 260 00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:44,902 [solemn music continues] 261 00:15:44,985 --> 00:15:51,450 I was sent off-site to keep me from investigating what was going on. 262 00:15:52,576 --> 00:15:57,623 It seemed like a way to tell us production is gonna move on 263 00:15:57,706 --> 00:16:00,209 whether we wanted them to or not. 264 00:16:03,128 --> 00:16:06,715 [McNerney] You've got to end up being better and reaching higher. 265 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:09,218 So it's not a matter of hanging around a hot tub 266 00:16:09,301 --> 00:16:11,971 and everybody feeling good about the conversation. 267 00:16:12,054 --> 00:16:15,891 Uh, there's an element of push, leadership, uh, 268 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:19,520 and stretch, uh, provided by the boss. 269 00:16:19,603 --> 00:16:22,231 [tense music playing] 270 00:16:22,314 --> 00:16:25,359 [Gates] Jim McNerney was laser-focused 271 00:16:25,442 --> 00:16:28,988 on meeting the schedule at the lowest cost. 272 00:16:29,488 --> 00:16:35,869 And so any delays in production were not to be countenanced. 273 00:16:35,953 --> 00:16:39,415 [man] Here, everybody's being pushed to meet this fucking schedule, 274 00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:42,126 regardless of quality. 275 00:16:43,293 --> 00:16:46,672 [Irvin] If the airplane was not finished as quickly as possible, 276 00:16:46,755 --> 00:16:49,174 {\an8}it would hurt the manager's bonuses. 277 00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:53,595 At the time, I was inspecting an airplane. 278 00:16:54,221 --> 00:16:57,599 I saw a hole in the aft body join, 279 00:16:58,350 --> 00:17:01,812 and the fastener that was in there was not the right size. 280 00:17:02,312 --> 00:17:05,065 I had concerns with what I'd seen. 281 00:17:05,149 --> 00:17:06,525 [tense music builds] 282 00:17:07,109 --> 00:17:09,862 They've lost airplanes with fasteners like that. 283 00:17:10,988 --> 00:17:13,824 I raised it to my quality manager, 284 00:17:13,907 --> 00:17:16,243 and he said, "Mind your own business." 285 00:17:17,453 --> 00:17:22,249 It was a major ass-chewing for anybody that would have stopped the process 286 00:17:22,332 --> 00:17:24,668 to be able to fix a defect. 287 00:17:25,294 --> 00:17:27,254 Those people would be in trouble. 288 00:17:28,672 --> 00:17:31,967 [man] It's my pleasure to welcome you to the certification ceremony 289 00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:34,678 for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner. 290 00:17:34,762 --> 00:17:37,014 [crowd applauding] 291 00:17:37,097 --> 00:17:38,974 [Gates] After the rollout of the Dreamliner, 292 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:40,684 Boeing was in financial trouble. 293 00:17:40,768 --> 00:17:41,935 [pensive music playing] 294 00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:44,897 And it didn't want to invest in another all-new design. 295 00:17:44,980 --> 00:17:48,442 Because investing in a new plane is an awful lot of money. 296 00:17:49,234 --> 00:17:52,112 [reporter 1] Boeing finds itself facing turbulence by a foreign rival 297 00:17:52,196 --> 00:17:53,530 with some very big ambitions. 298 00:17:53,614 --> 00:17:55,991 [reporter 2] Airbus has received the good-to-go. 299 00:17:56,075 --> 00:17:59,203 The A320neo has the thumbs-up. 300 00:17:59,286 --> 00:18:03,040 [Gates] Then Airbus announced it would put new fuel-efficient engines 301 00:18:03,123 --> 00:18:04,917 on its most popular jet 302 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,087 that would save something like 20% of the fuel cost. 303 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:11,673 [reporter 2] Customers have ordered over 4,300 of the planes. 304 00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:14,510 [reporter 3] Airbus has simply been cleaning Boeing's clock. 305 00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:16,637 Jim McNerney freaked out. 306 00:18:17,221 --> 00:18:19,932 They needed to develop a new airplane. 307 00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:24,770 [Gates] Boeing was tending towards an all-new replacement for the 737. 308 00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:27,689 But that would have taken years. 309 00:18:28,941 --> 00:18:32,361 Jim McNerney made a really rushed decision. 310 00:18:33,946 --> 00:18:36,156 {\an8}[Gates] McNerney decided, "Let's just do the simple thing 311 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,660 {\an8}and put new fuel-efficient engines on the existing 737." 312 00:18:41,036 --> 00:18:43,497 {\an8}And that becomes the 737 MAX. 313 00:18:43,580 --> 00:18:44,915 [tense music playing] 314 00:18:44,998 --> 00:18:49,128 [Gates] As soon as they announced this, it began to have really heavy sales. 315 00:18:49,211 --> 00:18:51,880 [reporter 1] Massive order that Southwest Airlines will be placing. 316 00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:55,801 [reporter 2] Lion Air Group has purchased 50 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. 317 00:18:55,884 --> 00:18:59,179 We've got an order book as far as the eye can see. 318 00:18:59,763 --> 00:19:01,765 [reporter 1] Big relief for Boeing. 319 00:19:02,266 --> 00:19:05,060 And that meant profits for shareholders. 320 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:06,895 -Jim McNerney. [chuckles] -Thank you. 321 00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:08,772 [Gelles] And a lot of money for the CEO. 322 00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:09,690 Ah! 323 00:19:09,773 --> 00:19:11,150 [tense music continues] 324 00:19:11,233 --> 00:19:14,570 [Gelles] In 2015, when Jim McNerney stepped down, 325 00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:17,406 he'd made hundreds of millions of dollars 326 00:19:17,489 --> 00:19:21,368 {\an8}and took home many tens of millions in retirement. 327 00:19:23,287 --> 00:19:25,914 {\an8}I'm sure when he left, he thought, "Wow, I did a great job." 328 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:27,416 "Look at the stock price now." 329 00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:32,880 [tense music crescendos, fades] 330 00:19:32,963 --> 00:19:35,632 And because cost-cutting looked successful, 331 00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:38,760 it was gonna continue to happen even after he left. 332 00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:40,596 [tense music resumes] 333 00:19:40,679 --> 00:19:42,306 [Gelles] When McNerney stepped down, 334 00:19:42,389 --> 00:19:45,309 {\an8}the board installed his hand-picked successor, 335 00:19:45,392 --> 00:19:46,977 {\an8}a man named Dennis Muilenburg. 336 00:19:48,896 --> 00:19:52,941 [Gates] Before he took over, Muilenburg shadowed McNerney for 18 months. 337 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:56,069 And I think, in that time, McNerney pointed out to him 338 00:19:56,153 --> 00:20:00,199 all these things he'd been doing that were so successful financially 339 00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:01,950 and told him, "Keep it up." 340 00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:02,910 So he did. 341 00:20:04,286 --> 00:20:07,039 [man 1] Shares of Boeing continuing to soar. 342 00:20:07,122 --> 00:20:11,460 [man 2] Were you surprised watching your stock price move up parabolically? 343 00:20:11,543 --> 00:20:14,963 {\an8}I don't say that I was surprised. We had promised production ramp-up. 344 00:20:15,047 --> 00:20:16,924 {\an8}We're now delivering on that ramp-up. 345 00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:18,926 {\an8}Which I guess deserves a higher multiple. 346 00:20:19,009 --> 00:20:22,262 {\an8}-That's what I'm thinking. -We'll talk a lot about commercial but… 347 00:20:22,346 --> 00:20:27,226 {\an8}When Muilenburg came in, I thought, "Well, nothing changes." 348 00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:29,770 {\an8}And actually, it gets worse. 349 00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:35,275 [ominous music playing] 350 00:20:37,986 --> 00:20:40,322 One day, I was called down to the Dreamliner. 351 00:20:42,199 --> 00:20:44,368 We found all these metal slivers 352 00:20:44,451 --> 00:20:48,163 on all this electronic wiring under the floorboard. 353 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,168 As they were installing the floorboards, 354 00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:55,754 it's peeling the threads off of these fasteners. 355 00:20:57,339 --> 00:21:00,759 Well, over time, this metal sliver's gonna vibrate down in there, 356 00:21:00,842 --> 00:21:02,427 and it's gonna short wires out. 357 00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:04,012 [electricity zapping] 358 00:21:04,096 --> 00:21:06,974 It's been known that just a little short 359 00:21:07,057 --> 00:21:08,684 will bring down a whole plane. 360 00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:10,102 [whistling] 361 00:21:10,185 --> 00:21:11,812 [ominous music builds] 362 00:21:11,895 --> 00:21:15,107 [pilot] Swissair 111, we have smoke in the cockpit. 363 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:17,651 Uh, request immediate return. 364 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:22,155 [Barnett] Swissair Flight 111 had a chafed wire 365 00:21:22,239 --> 00:21:24,616 in an entertainment system, 366 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:26,910 caused a fire and brought down the whole plane. 367 00:21:26,994 --> 00:21:28,328 Killed everybody on board. 368 00:21:28,829 --> 00:21:31,707 [reporter] We're about 6,000 feet, hovering above the wreckage. 369 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:35,794 [Barnett] TWA Flight 800 had a chafed wire in the fuel tanks, 370 00:21:35,877 --> 00:21:37,296 blew it out of the sky. 371 00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:39,089 [solemn music playing] 372 00:21:39,172 --> 00:21:41,466 There's something like 20,000 of these fasteners 373 00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:43,176 on a 787 Dreamliner. 374 00:21:43,677 --> 00:21:46,513 We're looking at potentially 60,000 slivers 375 00:21:46,596 --> 00:21:48,432 flying around on these wires. 376 00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:52,477 So I brought it up to my boss. 377 00:21:53,478 --> 00:21:57,524 And he said, "Ah, it's gonna cost too much and take too much time to clean it." 378 00:21:59,651 --> 00:22:02,195 How much is it gonna cost and how much time is it gonna take 379 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:05,824 if one of these planes goes down with 350 people on board? 380 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:09,119 [solemn music continues] 381 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:12,706 I said, "I will not put my name on this airplane 382 00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:14,750 saying it's safe and airworthy." 383 00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:18,211 But they didn't want to hear it. 384 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,716 And after that, they moved me about every four or six months 385 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:24,092 just to mess with me. 386 00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:26,636 And every time I'd move and get put in a different area, 387 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,263 I'd find some major issue. 388 00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:29,598 [music fades] 389 00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:33,977 [man 1] I just wanted to ask your opinion, man. 390 00:22:34,061 --> 00:22:36,188 My in-laws are gonna fly on one of these. 391 00:22:36,855 --> 00:22:38,190 Do you think they're safe? 392 00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:46,239 [man 2] They're just your in-laws. [laughs] 393 00:22:46,323 --> 00:22:47,449 [man 1] Would you fly on one? 394 00:22:47,532 --> 00:22:48,533 [man 2] No. 395 00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:52,037 [man 1] I got a free vacation. 396 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:52,996 [woman] What's that? 397 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,165 [man 1] You just have to fly on a 787. 398 00:22:55,665 --> 00:22:57,459 -[woman] Shit. -[man 1] What? 399 00:22:57,542 --> 00:23:00,170 [woman] No, we ain't going on no vacation on a 787. 400 00:23:00,253 --> 00:23:02,714 You know what be going on on the 787? 401 00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:05,008 [man 1] What happens? 402 00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:06,218 [woman] What don't happen? 403 00:23:06,802 --> 00:23:10,389 [man 3] I wouldn't fly on one of these planes. Because I see the quality 404 00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:12,808 of the fucking shit going down around here. 405 00:23:12,891 --> 00:23:15,310 [ominous music playing] 406 00:23:17,312 --> 00:23:19,898 [Barnett] Charleston is the first plant I've ever heard 407 00:23:19,981 --> 00:23:23,610 where the majority of the people working on the plane will not fly on it. 408 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:29,741 If your own people do not have enough confidence to fly on the product, 409 00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:33,495 why are you letting it go out the door to the flying public? 410 00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:35,789 [jet engines humming] 411 00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:42,421 {\an8}The Charleston plant, we thought, it's a totally different culture 412 00:23:42,504 --> 00:23:45,298 {\an8}than up here in Seattle. 413 00:23:47,342 --> 00:23:50,971 But in 2015, the alarm bells went off 414 00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:56,893 when I uncovered that some corroded 787 landing gear axles 415 00:23:56,977 --> 00:24:01,857 that we had previously scrapped, spray-painted red with the word "scrap," 416 00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:05,819 wound up being used back in the Dreamliner production line. 417 00:24:07,571 --> 00:24:10,574 These parts, they were basically rotted. 418 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:15,704 And as I started to research it, I found that scrap parts 419 00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:19,708 were put back on the airplane for years and years. 420 00:24:20,208 --> 00:24:23,170 [ominous music intensifies] 421 00:24:26,882 --> 00:24:31,636 We'll never know the scope of how many of these parts made it to airplanes. 422 00:24:35,432 --> 00:24:39,394 Boeing has delivered over 1,200 Dreamliners. 423 00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:43,607 The fleet operates across more than 85 countries 424 00:24:43,690 --> 00:24:45,901 with one billion passengers. 425 00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:51,781 And so we had a corporate investigation launched. 426 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:57,954 {\an8}Not one manager was fired or went to jail or got time off. 427 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,917 It's like it was just part of the business. 428 00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,964 I don't know what it means for the thousands of planes flying around. 429 00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:11,468 At this point, it's anyone's guess. 430 00:25:14,012 --> 00:25:16,389 [music fades] 431 00:25:17,724 --> 00:25:21,603 {\an8}This new Boeing, the way they treat people and their quality managers 432 00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:23,730 {\an8}is ruining the entire company. 433 00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:25,941 And that scares me. 434 00:25:26,816 --> 00:25:28,068 Scares me to death. 435 00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:31,780 [Stokes] John would come home worried. 436 00:25:31,863 --> 00:25:36,034 He said, "You know, I just can't believe that they just don't understand." 437 00:25:36,117 --> 00:25:40,330 I could see later on that it was starting to really get to him. 438 00:25:43,291 --> 00:25:46,670 [Barnett] I had to seriously think about going to human resources, 439 00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:51,841 because at Boeing, when you go to HR, now you're a target. 440 00:25:53,051 --> 00:25:56,638 I knew from past history and other incidents 441 00:25:56,721 --> 00:25:59,724 that chances are Boeing's gonna fire you on the spot. 442 00:26:00,225 --> 00:26:03,728 They're gonna confiscate your computer. They're gonna confiscate your cell phone. 443 00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:06,022 They're gonna confiscate all your documents. 444 00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:08,817 So now you're a terminated employee 445 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:12,237 who gets blacklisted from an entire industry. 446 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,698 [solemn music playing] 447 00:26:14,781 --> 00:26:17,075 So I'm scared of what they're gonna do. 448 00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:25,875 But putting the flying public in danger, this is unacceptable. 449 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:29,296 I decided I'm going to just fight them. 450 00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,424 So I went to human resources. 451 00:26:32,507 --> 00:26:34,884 I told them they're violating procedures. 452 00:26:34,968 --> 00:26:37,387 HR said, "Yep, you're right." 453 00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:40,348 They wouldn't do anything to correct it. 454 00:26:41,224 --> 00:26:43,018 So I filed an ethics complaint. 455 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,477 Nothing. 456 00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:48,565 I wrote a letter to the VP of Corporate Ethics in Washington, D.C. 457 00:26:49,232 --> 00:26:50,859 Executives didn't do anything. 458 00:26:52,152 --> 00:26:54,237 I filed a complaint with OSHA. 459 00:26:54,988 --> 00:26:59,618 I went to FAA, the Oversight Enforcement Organization, 460 00:27:00,327 --> 00:27:02,912 to get these issues taken care of. 461 00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:06,249 [solemn music continues] 462 00:27:06,333 --> 00:27:08,710 It's like, does anybody care? 463 00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:15,216 Or is it gonna take an airplane to go down before some people say, 464 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,636 "Wow, I guess we should have listened." 465 00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:27,020 [woman] I remember waking up on the Sunday morning. 466 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,440 {\an8}I had the two kids next to me, so I said, you know, 467 00:27:30,523 --> 00:27:32,942 {\an8}it would be nice for him to… to see a picture of the kids. 468 00:27:33,026 --> 00:27:37,697 {\an8}So I took a little selfie shot of… of the two kids 469 00:27:37,781 --> 00:27:41,409 saying, "Good morning, Daddy," and, you know, lots of emojis. 470 00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:42,494 [text message pops] 471 00:27:44,371 --> 00:27:45,246 [swooshes] 472 00:27:45,747 --> 00:27:48,750 I noticed that the message hadn't delivered, 473 00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:51,378 which I thought was a little bit unusual. 474 00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:54,881 But I put it down to maybe bad signal in… in Addis Ababa. 475 00:27:57,300 --> 00:28:01,680 Mick was traveling, doing a lot of work with the United Nations. 476 00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:06,351 He always had this desire to help people. 477 00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:09,479 [pensive music playing] 478 00:28:10,605 --> 00:28:13,441 {\an8}A number of hours later, I picked up my phone, 479 00:28:13,942 --> 00:28:16,194 and there was still no reply from him, 480 00:28:16,277 --> 00:28:18,780 but there was a load of missed calls from… from a friend of mine. 481 00:28:18,863 --> 00:28:20,448 [phone line ringing] 482 00:28:21,574 --> 00:28:25,578 So I rang our friend, he said, "Naoise, have you seen the news?" 483 00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:27,372 "There's been a plane crash." 484 00:28:28,289 --> 00:28:30,709 And then he said, "I think Mick is on the plane." 485 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,879 And I said, "No. No." 486 00:28:41,928 --> 00:28:45,849 [reporter] An Ethiopian Airlines flight has crashed shortly after takeoff, 487 00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:50,812 killing all 157 passengers and crew thought to be on board. 488 00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:55,817 [Naoise] It's like time stood still. 489 00:29:00,321 --> 00:29:02,991 People don't just disappear from your life. 490 00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:05,535 They're there one minute, and then they're not. 491 00:29:07,328 --> 00:29:08,580 But that's what happened. 492 00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:11,291 He wa… he was gone. 493 00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:22,469 I suppose, being an engineer, that's where my brain kicked in, 494 00:29:22,969 --> 00:29:25,180 and I started to research. 495 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,515 [somber music playing] 496 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,310 [reporter 1] Boeing faces a lot of safety questions this morning 497 00:29:30,393 --> 00:29:33,605 because this is the second crash in just five months. 498 00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:39,527 [reporter 2] The Lion Air flight crashed off the coast of Indonesia 499 00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:42,071 with almost 200 people on board. 500 00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:44,073 [people crying] 501 00:29:46,326 --> 00:29:49,954 [Naoise] I learned this wasn't even the first MAX crash. 502 00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:56,669 Brand-new planes falling from the sky, you know, twice. 503 00:29:56,753 --> 00:29:57,962 How could this be? 504 00:29:59,714 --> 00:30:01,341 I wanted answers. 505 00:30:01,841 --> 00:30:03,718 [dramatic music playing] 506 00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:07,472 [reporter 1] An emergency order grounding all Boeing MAX 8s and 9s. 507 00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:11,684 [reporter 2] The FAA grounded the planes until their safe use has been confirmed. 508 00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:14,813 [reporter 3] The focus in the two crashes quickly zeroed in 509 00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:16,981 on a new system called MCAS. 510 00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:20,527 [reporter 4] Powerful MCAS software can take over the plane's controls in flight. 511 00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:22,654 [reporter 5] That left pilots powerless. 512 00:30:24,531 --> 00:30:27,617 [reporter 6] Boeing withheld crucial information from the FAA, 513 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:30,745 its customers, and 737 MAX pilots. 514 00:30:31,246 --> 00:30:35,083 [reporter 7] The FAA estimated that 15 more MAX planes 515 00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:37,585 would crash over the next few decades. 516 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:41,840 Boeing and its CEO knew that the flawed system was a safety risk, 517 00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:45,510 {\an8}yet they told the public MAX was as safe as any airplane 518 00:30:45,593 --> 00:30:47,345 {\an8}that has ever flown the skies. 519 00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:50,807 [Naoise] The more I learned, the more I realized 520 00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:53,184 that everything was so wrong 521 00:30:53,268 --> 00:30:55,353 and that we needed to push for justice. 522 00:30:55,436 --> 00:30:57,981 [dramatic music continues] 523 00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:05,405 My kids are aware that their dad got on a plane, 524 00:31:05,488 --> 00:31:07,949 and the plane was made by bad guys. 525 00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:13,371 My son asked me, "Will we catch the bad guys?" 526 00:31:13,454 --> 00:31:17,166 And I said, "I don't know. We'll have to wait and see." 527 00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:20,503 [music fades] 528 00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:28,386 [Mohawk] After the 737 MAX crashes, 529 00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:32,974 everyone in our factory was in a state of shock. 530 00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:36,978 {\an8}We take our work seriously, especially the work quality, 531 00:31:37,478 --> 00:31:39,606 {\an8}that we're signing off on a good product. 532 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,318 {\an8}And I was devastated. 533 00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:44,277 Um… 534 00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:48,990 [somber music playing] 535 00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:53,077 Can I get a sec? Sorry. 536 00:32:05,757 --> 00:32:07,884 [Meyers] Emotionally, it was a dark cloud, 537 00:32:07,967 --> 00:32:09,260 I think, for everybody. 538 00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:11,930 [somber music continues] 539 00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:15,767 Because what are we doing? 540 00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:17,936 Why are we in this field? 541 00:32:18,019 --> 00:32:19,896 And why do we rush? 542 00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:23,650 [Mohawk] It impacts you. 543 00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:29,072 Every day we spend doing our work, we're concerned for the flying public, so… 544 00:32:29,656 --> 00:32:32,450 [emotional music playing] 545 00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:37,038 {\an8}[Meyers] We were upset about the families, 546 00:32:37,121 --> 00:32:40,667 {\an8}and especially watching them with the big pictures of their loved ones. 547 00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:42,877 That's hard for anybody, 548 00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:45,922 but a Boeing employee, that was very hard to watch. 549 00:32:48,383 --> 00:32:50,218 [woman 1] My daughter was a humanitarian. 550 00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:54,055 She had decided to dedicate her life to other people. 551 00:32:55,056 --> 00:32:57,684 It was actually her first day of work. 552 00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:02,230 [woman 2] Why did we have to wake up to get a call 553 00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:06,067 that our two boys were on a plane that crashed? 554 00:33:06,901 --> 00:33:09,862 [man] Our daughter, Samya, was headed to East Africa 555 00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:13,533 on her way to start her career in public health. 556 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:21,541 What got me the angriest of all was reading the Boeing lawyers 557 00:33:21,624 --> 00:33:26,254 saying that the families don't deserve, uh, compensation 558 00:33:26,337 --> 00:33:29,173 for the pain and suffering that their loved ones went through. 559 00:33:30,925 --> 00:33:33,261 {\an8}They said it happened so fast, 560 00:33:33,344 --> 00:33:35,638 {\an8}the victims didn't know what was going on. 561 00:33:38,307 --> 00:33:41,853 {\an8}I think about their last six minutes a lot. 562 00:33:42,562 --> 00:33:45,481 {\an8}My wife and my mom-in-law knew they were going to die. 563 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:50,737 {\an8}They had to somehow comfort the children during those final moments, 564 00:33:51,237 --> 00:33:53,322 {\an8}knowing they were all their last. 565 00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:56,200 {\an8}I wish I was there with them. 566 00:33:58,202 --> 00:34:02,707 {\an8}It never leaves me that my family's flesh is there in Ethiopia, 567 00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:07,545 {\an8}mixed with the soil, the jet fuel, and pieces of the aircraft. 568 00:34:11,424 --> 00:34:13,843 {\an8}[dramatic sting] 569 00:34:15,386 --> 00:34:20,475 {\an8}In the months after the second crash, Muilenburg is on the hot seat. 570 00:34:20,558 --> 00:34:24,604 {\an8}Finally, in December of 2019, Muilenburg is fired. 571 00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:27,190 [solemn music playing] 572 00:34:27,273 --> 00:34:31,402 But even though he had presided over two devastating crashes, 573 00:34:31,486 --> 00:34:33,571 which had killed hundreds of people, 574 00:34:33,654 --> 00:34:37,492 {\an8}he made about $120 million as CEO 575 00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:42,371 {\an8}and left with a retirement package worth approximately $60 million. 576 00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,084 {\an8}He was immediately replaced 577 00:34:46,167 --> 00:34:49,087 {\an8}by the chairman of the board, Dave Calhoun. 578 00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:52,381 {\an8}Calhoun was a seasoned executive. 579 00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:55,885 He'd been on the board for ten years at this point. 580 00:34:56,427 --> 00:34:58,096 [reporter] Boeing entering a new era. 581 00:34:58,179 --> 00:35:01,307 David Calhoun taking over as CEO. It happens today. 582 00:35:01,390 --> 00:35:04,852 {\an8}At the same time, there were multiple investigations. 583 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:08,106 {\an8}The House was very aggressive. 584 00:35:08,189 --> 00:35:12,193 {\an8}We shouldn't have to have tragedies to change the rules 585 00:35:12,276 --> 00:35:14,028 {\an8}if the rules need to be changed. 586 00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:16,697 We shouldn't have to be here today. 587 00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:20,910 And the DOJ pursued a possible criminal case. 588 00:35:22,578 --> 00:35:26,207 Nobody knew what legal consequences Boeing would face. 589 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,002 [music fades] 590 00:35:33,756 --> 00:35:37,385 It was two years into the investigations of the MAX crashes, 591 00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:40,721 I was in my mother-in-law's house, 592 00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:43,224 and we were talking about Mick. 593 00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:45,726 -[indistinct newscast] -The news was on in the background. 594 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:47,728 [reporter 1] We have some breaking news on Boeing. 595 00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:49,564 Suddenly, Boeing is mentioned, 596 00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:52,525 and you kind of stop in your tracks, and you're listening to it. 597 00:35:52,608 --> 00:35:55,570 Boeing has entered into a deferred prosecution agreement 598 00:35:55,653 --> 00:35:57,530 regarding the 737 MAX. 599 00:35:57,613 --> 00:36:00,575 And I'm… I'm like, "What… what the hell? What… what's this?" 600 00:36:00,658 --> 00:36:03,244 You know, "What's a deferred prosecution agreement?" 601 00:36:03,327 --> 00:36:07,206 This charge will be essentially dismissed after three years 602 00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,751 if Boeing meets all of the stipulations in this agreement. 603 00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:15,590 This essentially ends the criminal investigation, if you will, 604 00:36:15,673 --> 00:36:19,468 by the DOJ looking into what Boeing did. 605 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:24,182 And… and I went, no way, 346 lives lost. 606 00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:26,767 Brand-new planes falling from the sky. 607 00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:29,604 Somebody's got something wrong here. This can't be true. 608 00:36:29,687 --> 00:36:31,480 [reporter 2] Does that also end any threats 609 00:36:31,564 --> 00:36:33,316 to individual executives at Boeing? 610 00:36:33,399 --> 00:36:34,859 [reporter 3] Apparently. 611 00:36:34,942 --> 00:36:38,613 We'll get them to pay a fine. We'll tell them that they're on probation. 612 00:36:38,696 --> 00:36:41,949 If after three years, you've been really, really good, you get a clean slate. 613 00:36:42,533 --> 00:36:43,993 It's like it never happened. 614 00:36:44,785 --> 00:36:47,747 The CEO should have been prosecuted. 615 00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:50,708 Instead, they wrote that senior management 616 00:36:50,791 --> 00:36:52,877 knew nothing about what was going on. 617 00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:55,922 [reporter 3] There are a couple of terms within there 618 00:36:56,005 --> 00:36:57,840 in terms of things that Boeing has to meet. 619 00:36:57,924 --> 00:37:02,428 [Naoise] It is utter disbelief that somebody could get away 620 00:37:02,511 --> 00:37:05,806 with killing 346 people. 621 00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:09,602 This, it hurts. 622 00:37:10,102 --> 00:37:13,356 [somber music playing] 623 00:37:15,691 --> 00:37:18,486 [Meyers] We were upset about the plea deal. 624 00:37:19,278 --> 00:37:22,114 It's not justice for these families. 625 00:37:24,367 --> 00:37:27,161 [Irvin] It wasn't nearly severe enough for Boeing. 626 00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:30,206 It's just checking the box and… and moving on. 627 00:37:30,289 --> 00:37:33,542 [dramatic music playing] 628 00:37:33,626 --> 00:37:35,169 [Mohawk] The fine's nothing to Boeing. 629 00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:38,965 If there's actually people that are subject to jail time, 630 00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:40,716 that'll stop their practices. 631 00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:45,638 [Meyers] A lot of these government agencies think, "Oh my gosh, 632 00:37:45,721 --> 00:37:48,015 you know, if we lead one of them out in handcuffs, 633 00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:51,102 the whole company… the house of cards is gonna collapse." 634 00:37:51,185 --> 00:37:53,354 No, you lead them out in handcuffs, 635 00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:55,481 that's gonna make people start to think twice. 636 00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:01,112 Until you hold people accountable, they will not change. 637 00:38:03,698 --> 00:38:06,200 [music fades] 638 00:38:07,493 --> 00:38:10,496 [Naoise] I had this feeling like I needed to do something. 639 00:38:11,497 --> 00:38:13,332 [pensive music playing] 640 00:38:13,416 --> 00:38:15,626 And there was a number of families 641 00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:19,046 that were prepared to stand up and fight. 642 00:38:19,547 --> 00:38:21,007 -[woman 1] Hi, hi. -[woman 2] Hello. 643 00:38:22,883 --> 00:38:25,386 [Naoise] The only way we could go after the CEOs 644 00:38:25,469 --> 00:38:28,639 was by proving that Boeing violated the terms 645 00:38:28,723 --> 00:38:30,683 during their probationary period, 646 00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:35,563 that they had failed to improve their safety standards. 647 00:38:38,107 --> 00:38:40,192 And we had three years to do that. 648 00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:45,031 [dramatic music playing] 649 00:38:50,411 --> 00:38:53,164 [man] Our families, we meet every month online. 650 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:58,127 {\an8}We keep track of what Boeing's safety failures have been. 651 00:38:58,210 --> 00:38:59,628 There are always more. 652 00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:03,174 [Naoise] There's a reporting procedure in America. 653 00:39:03,257 --> 00:39:05,426 Every time there's a problem on an aircraft, 654 00:39:05,509 --> 00:39:08,179 this goes into the system, and the public can view it. 655 00:39:09,388 --> 00:39:13,309 [Stumo] Yesterday there was a MAX that declared an emergency in Rome 656 00:39:13,392 --> 00:39:16,562 and another one that declared an emergency in India. 657 00:39:17,146 --> 00:39:18,981 We were looking for patterns, 658 00:39:19,065 --> 00:39:22,234 and there was a huge amount with brand-new aircraft. 659 00:39:22,943 --> 00:39:25,446 Electrical problems, the pressurization problem, 660 00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:29,408 52 bad stabilizer trim motors. These are critical safety systems. 661 00:39:29,992 --> 00:39:32,495 {\an8}[reporter 1] Boeing's had production issues with an aft bulkhead. 662 00:39:32,578 --> 00:39:34,789 {\an8}[reporter 2] Electrical problem with the instrument panel. 663 00:39:34,872 --> 00:39:37,833 {\an8}[reporter 3] One of the right engine fan blades was fractured. 664 00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:40,086 {\an8}[man 1] All of a sudden, we hear this loud explosion. 665 00:39:40,169 --> 00:39:43,506 [reporter 4] A hole ripped open mid-flight in the roof of a Southwest Airlines-- 666 00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:47,468 {\an8}[man 2] The FAA has given us a bulletin saying if you leave the engine anti-ice 667 00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:50,429 {\an8}when you're in clear air for five minutes or more, 668 00:39:50,513 --> 00:39:52,556 {\an8}the engine could actually come undone. 669 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,100 [dramatic music continues] 670 00:39:54,183 --> 00:39:56,560 I'm flying with a Post-it note to remind me, 671 00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:58,646 hey, turn that engine anti-ice off 672 00:39:58,729 --> 00:40:00,481 'cause I have no other alert on the airplane. 673 00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:07,988 And we realized that this wasn't just a software problem with the MAX aircraft. 674 00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:11,784 There were enormous manufacturing problems. 675 00:40:13,577 --> 00:40:17,331 We needed to find out what was happening in the Boeing factories. 676 00:40:21,919 --> 00:40:24,130 [music fades] 677 00:40:26,507 --> 00:40:28,926 [Seitz] John Barnett wanted nothing more 678 00:40:29,009 --> 00:40:32,638 than to see a quality product go out the door. 679 00:40:33,931 --> 00:40:39,270 {\an8}But it seemed like he was getting pushback instead of support. 680 00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:41,313 {\an8}John raised up enough issues 681 00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:44,275 {\an8}and raised enough flags from inside the company 682 00:40:44,358 --> 00:40:47,278 that they eventually decided to move him to somewhere 683 00:40:47,361 --> 00:40:50,322 where he couldn't have that effect on the production system. 684 00:40:51,949 --> 00:40:55,953 Seeing what John went through, it was upsetting. 685 00:40:56,036 --> 00:40:58,456 [solemn music playing] 686 00:41:05,379 --> 00:41:08,466 [Barnett] I had multiple managers berating me. 687 00:41:09,758 --> 00:41:13,971 {\an8}On my performance management review, I was downgraded 688 00:41:14,054 --> 00:41:18,476 {\an8}and my pay was docked for putting quality concerns in writing. 689 00:41:19,602 --> 00:41:22,980 They said flat out they do not want anything in documentation 690 00:41:23,063 --> 00:41:25,900 so they can maintain culpable deniability. 691 00:41:26,984 --> 00:41:28,569 That's exact words. 692 00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:34,909 Followed that up with what's called a corrective action plan. 693 00:41:36,118 --> 00:41:38,204 And basically, you're about to get fired. 694 00:41:39,872 --> 00:41:42,291 [solemn music continues] 695 00:41:45,002 --> 00:41:49,256 The stress and the humiliation and the hostility towards me, 696 00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:51,217 it just… it wore me down. 697 00:41:54,637 --> 00:42:00,643 To have 30 years in an industry where you're looked at as a go-to guy, 698 00:42:00,726 --> 00:42:04,980 and just the next day, you're just the scum of the organization… 699 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:07,608 How do you process that? 700 00:42:07,691 --> 00:42:10,236 [solemn music continues] 701 00:42:13,906 --> 00:42:16,325 So I ended up taking a retirement. 702 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:20,955 [music fades] 703 00:42:21,038 --> 00:42:23,040 [birds chirping] 704 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:31,799 But after I left, I knew issues continued to exist. 705 00:42:33,425 --> 00:42:35,928 That weighs heavy on my heart. 706 00:42:38,931 --> 00:42:43,602 Maybe I should have went to the president of Boeing instead of just the VP. 707 00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:46,772 I mean, you know, you can't help but think about those things. 708 00:42:46,855 --> 00:42:48,983 You know, what could I have done different? 709 00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:55,489 And I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, "What do I do now?" 710 00:42:57,032 --> 00:43:00,244 And it was a choice of either "sit down, shut up" 711 00:43:00,327 --> 00:43:01,662 or go outside of Boeing. 712 00:43:01,745 --> 00:43:05,165 [contemplative music playing] 713 00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:10,379 We're talking airplanes, we're talking people's lives, 714 00:43:10,462 --> 00:43:12,089 we're talking the flying public. 715 00:43:13,173 --> 00:43:15,593 I can't sit back and let that go. 716 00:43:15,676 --> 00:43:17,720 [music continues] 717 00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:25,144 And I wasn't gonna sit down, shut up. 718 00:43:27,354 --> 00:43:29,940 [reporter] John Barnett says he spent 32 years with Boeing, 719 00:43:30,024 --> 00:43:32,151 and he's blowing the whistle on where he works. 720 00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:35,738 It's just all been about schedule and hurry up and just get it done, 721 00:43:35,821 --> 00:43:37,781 push the planes out, we're behind schedule. 722 00:43:37,865 --> 00:43:40,951 I know what's under the skin, and it's scary. 723 00:43:42,786 --> 00:43:45,497 I just think it's critically important 724 00:43:45,581 --> 00:43:49,084 that the activities going on within Boeing 725 00:43:49,168 --> 00:43:52,338 are made aware to the people whose lives could be affected. 726 00:43:52,921 --> 00:43:55,215 You know, I mean, look at the 737 MAX. 727 00:43:56,383 --> 00:43:59,470 [sighs] Those lives and those families. 728 00:44:01,597 --> 00:44:03,140 That's why I keep telling my story. 729 00:44:03,223 --> 00:44:05,643 Somebody's got to step in and get it addressed. 730 00:44:09,938 --> 00:44:11,940 [Naoise] As we continued to research, 731 00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:16,487 we became aware that there was a small group of workers 732 00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:20,658 that had come forward to say that there were manufacturing problems 733 00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:22,451 at the Boeing factory, 734 00:44:22,534 --> 00:44:24,161 that there was total chaos. 735 00:44:24,244 --> 00:44:27,164 And some of them have reached out to us personally. 736 00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:34,213 {\an8}We've had the honor of working with many of you for several years now. 737 00:44:34,296 --> 00:44:35,339 And there's been a lot of… 738 00:44:35,422 --> 00:44:38,717 [Naoise] We started to be in contact a lot with whistleblowers. 739 00:44:39,301 --> 00:44:41,637 We had kind of formed a group at this stage. 740 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:42,846 [indistinct chatter] 741 00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:47,935 There was a number of meetings with them, some in person, then some online. 742 00:44:50,145 --> 00:44:52,898 We couldn't just sit back and do nothing. 743 00:44:52,981 --> 00:44:56,652 Because as families, we need to feel that our loved ones mattered. 744 00:44:58,028 --> 00:45:01,907 But also because real justice and accountability 745 00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:05,077 can prevent something from happening in the future. 746 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,204 [anticipatory music playing] 747 00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:12,084 [woman] How long do you think we're gonna be there again? 748 00:45:12,167 --> 00:45:13,293 -In the meeting? -Yeah. 749 00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:15,003 Oh, another three, four hours. 750 00:45:17,464 --> 00:45:21,093 [Naoise] And then we started having these meetings with the FAA. 751 00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:24,805 [Stumo] The FAA is the Federal Aviation Administration. 752 00:45:24,888 --> 00:45:26,807 Their job is to make sure 753 00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:30,394 there's the safe design and manufacture of aircraft. 754 00:45:30,477 --> 00:45:34,189 It has a large part of its duty to monitor and inspect Boeing. 755 00:45:36,984 --> 00:45:39,945 [Naoise] This deferred prosecution agreement was going to expire 756 00:45:40,028 --> 00:45:41,822 in about two years. 757 00:45:41,905 --> 00:45:46,493 So every week we informed the FAA that there was still an awful lot of problems. 758 00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:50,873 [Stumo] We're seeing continuing problems with brand-new aircraft 759 00:45:50,956 --> 00:45:52,958 that you're not seeing with older aircraft. 760 00:45:53,041 --> 00:45:55,544 It's just lunacy that it's not fixed. 761 00:45:57,129 --> 00:45:59,339 {\an8}[Naoise] And what they said at the time was, 762 00:45:59,423 --> 00:46:01,175 {\an8}"You don't need to worry about it." 763 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,763 "Boeing have changed their ways, and they're a fantastic company now." 764 00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:08,515 [music fades] 765 00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:12,561 We're gonna share all issues so that when things do go a little wrong, 766 00:46:12,644 --> 00:46:16,482 we can get ahead of them with all of our employees and with the public. 767 00:46:16,565 --> 00:46:18,567 [mellow music playing] 768 00:46:20,194 --> 00:46:24,114 Many people had hopes that Calhoun would turn the company around. 769 00:46:24,198 --> 00:46:26,408 {\an8}CEO of Boeing, he mentioned the guidance… 770 00:46:26,492 --> 00:46:28,243 {\an8}[Mohawk] We need somebody to make a change. 771 00:46:28,327 --> 00:46:31,121 {\an8}Hopefully, he's the person that will make the change within our company. 772 00:46:32,498 --> 00:46:36,210 [Meyers] Dave Calhoun committed to cleaning up processes. 773 00:46:36,835 --> 00:46:38,837 [man] It reorganized its engineering organization. 774 00:46:38,921 --> 00:46:40,589 It created a chief safety officer. 775 00:46:40,672 --> 00:46:43,050 {\an8}All these different tactical positions 776 00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:46,637 {\an8}that allowed them to… to make sure that this doesn't happen again. 777 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,891 [Mohawk] They started to create some kind of system 778 00:46:50,974 --> 00:46:53,560 where leadership listened to what was going on on the floor. 779 00:46:54,144 --> 00:46:57,064 [woman] Welcome to the Boeing Company's conference call. 780 00:46:57,147 --> 00:47:00,067 [Calhoun] We will encourage and reward employees for speaking up 781 00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:03,028 to slow things down if that's what's needed. 782 00:47:04,863 --> 00:47:09,535 The Speak Up program was going to make it easy for employees 783 00:47:09,618 --> 00:47:13,539 to identify ethical problems, bad behaviors, 784 00:47:13,622 --> 00:47:17,209 and safety concerns to get quicker action. 785 00:47:17,292 --> 00:47:19,711 Transparency is what we lost for a moment, 786 00:47:19,795 --> 00:47:21,255 and it's something we have to regain 787 00:47:21,338 --> 00:47:24,675 because it speaks to the trust that the world has in us. 788 00:47:24,758 --> 00:47:26,260 [signal beeping] 789 00:47:29,179 --> 00:47:33,809 Breaking news. Boeing's 737 MAX is allowed to fly again. 790 00:47:33,892 --> 00:47:36,478 The FAA just lifted the grounding this morning. 791 00:47:36,562 --> 00:47:39,648 [reporter 1] The company has worked to update the software, computers, 792 00:47:39,731 --> 00:47:41,692 and pilot training for the MAX. 793 00:47:41,775 --> 00:47:44,361 [man] You are flying on a Boeing 737 MAX. 794 00:47:44,444 --> 00:47:46,363 [reporter 2] In this American Airlines cabin, 795 00:47:46,446 --> 00:47:50,325 applause for a new chapter in 737 MAX safety 796 00:47:50,409 --> 00:47:53,871 as the first domestic departure roared off the runway. 797 00:47:53,954 --> 00:47:56,957 [Calhoun] I'm very proud of our team, and I'm very proud of that airplane. 798 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,585 It is a, uh, remarkable, uh, machine, 799 00:47:59,668 --> 00:48:01,920 and… and as safe as anything… anything in the air. 800 00:48:02,004 --> 00:48:04,172 [engine roaring] 801 00:48:04,256 --> 00:48:09,469 [Gates] After the planes were ungrounded, I was convinced that the MAX was safe. 802 00:48:10,095 --> 00:48:11,555 It was safe to fly. 803 00:48:13,473 --> 00:48:15,726 [reporter 1] Big boost for Boeing and its 737 MAX. 804 00:48:15,809 --> 00:48:19,354 [reporter 2] A multi-billion dollar order for Southwest Airlines. 805 00:48:19,438 --> 00:48:22,024 [reporter 3] Ryanair ordered 75 MAXs. 806 00:48:22,107 --> 00:48:24,610 [reporter 4] Looking to increase production of the 737 MAX. 807 00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:28,030 [reporter 5] The rent and flight line tonight is very busy. 808 00:48:28,113 --> 00:48:30,198 [reporter 3] Ryanair's CEO says the MAX 809 00:48:30,282 --> 00:48:34,286 is now the safest plane in aviation history. 810 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,877 Once the MAX was back in the air, the whole atmosphere changed. 811 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,754 [mysterious music playing] 812 00:48:43,837 --> 00:48:46,173 [Mohawk] Boeing went back to business as usual. 813 00:48:46,256 --> 00:48:47,549 It's time to make money again. 814 00:48:47,633 --> 00:48:49,885 Let's push these airplanes out and make that money. 815 00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:53,013 Work exploded. 816 00:48:53,096 --> 00:48:56,141 I was now responsible for, like, ten times the amount of airplanes 817 00:48:56,224 --> 00:48:57,517 I'm usually responsible for. 818 00:48:58,644 --> 00:49:01,855 [Meyers] It was a schedule-driven, chaotic rush again. 819 00:49:02,564 --> 00:49:05,192 We were having a lot of problems. 820 00:49:05,901 --> 00:49:10,322 We had counted about 50,000 parts that bypassed quality 821 00:49:10,405 --> 00:49:12,366 that had escaped to the airplane. 822 00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:15,452 A lot of flight-critical parts too. 823 00:49:17,204 --> 00:49:19,873 So I reported this through the Speak Up program. 824 00:49:21,291 --> 00:49:24,753 There are so many of my nonconformance records still open. 825 00:49:24,836 --> 00:49:27,381 And that's usually because the part has gone missing. 826 00:49:27,464 --> 00:49:30,759 Head of our material review board came up with the decision 827 00:49:30,842 --> 00:49:33,261 to go ahead and delete those nonconformance records. 828 00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:37,057 That was a criminal activity. 829 00:49:37,140 --> 00:49:40,018 So the first thing I did was I went through the Speak Up system. 830 00:49:41,186 --> 00:49:42,270 [mouse clicks] 831 00:49:42,354 --> 00:49:46,483 We're seeing a lot of defects in these joint areas 832 00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:49,236 where the parts are coming together. 833 00:49:50,362 --> 00:49:52,906 I brought that up in a Speak Up. 834 00:49:53,699 --> 00:49:58,245 But I don't think a whistleblower calls Speak Up more than once. 835 00:50:00,205 --> 00:50:04,459 Because when we did, we were immediately retaliated against. 836 00:50:05,168 --> 00:50:07,170 [train rattling] 837 00:50:11,633 --> 00:50:16,221 {\an8}My boss came to my desk and chewed me out, and he said, 838 00:50:16,304 --> 00:50:18,932 {\an8}"I would have killed someone who said what you said." 839 00:50:19,016 --> 00:50:20,684 {\an8}[tense music playing] 840 00:50:20,767 --> 00:50:21,810 What did I say? 841 00:50:21,893 --> 00:50:25,772 I said, we need to consider engineering fundamentals. 842 00:50:27,399 --> 00:50:29,943 {\an8}[Mohawk] They were trying to work me through a corrective action, 843 00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,904 {\an8}saying that I wasn't listening to leadership doing my job. 844 00:50:34,614 --> 00:50:36,241 [Meyers] The ethics advisor called me 845 00:50:36,908 --> 00:50:39,661 and said, "Merle, yeah, you're going to be singled out 846 00:50:39,745 --> 00:50:41,455 and made an example of." 847 00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:47,627 My senior manager said, "Here's 12 things that you're doing wrong, 848 00:50:47,711 --> 00:50:50,255 and you have to correct these in 30 days, or I'll fire you." 849 00:50:54,092 --> 00:50:57,971 "I started keeping documentation about safety concerns." 850 00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:05,437 I was thinking, "I don't want to call the press." 851 00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:09,733 Because we've seen with whistleblowing, 852 00:51:09,816 --> 00:51:12,694 you lose your job, you lose your community. 853 00:51:14,654 --> 00:51:17,699 [Mohawk] I was whistleblowing internally for a couple years, 854 00:51:17,783 --> 00:51:19,951 but I never wanted to go public. 855 00:51:21,161 --> 00:51:23,455 Because I'm just, at the end of the day, an employee. 856 00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:25,457 I would have been crucified. 857 00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:32,756 [Salehpour] A lot of my coworkers were really scared to come forward, 858 00:51:32,839 --> 00:51:34,091 even within the company. 859 00:51:36,259 --> 00:51:41,473 But when I see a problematic area that could cause loss of life, 860 00:51:41,556 --> 00:51:44,267 I'm gonna speak up until my face is blue. 861 00:51:45,435 --> 00:51:47,479 So I kept on following it. 862 00:51:48,605 --> 00:51:52,818 And they finally just kicked me out of the Dreamliner program. 863 00:51:56,404 --> 00:51:58,949 Then my tire was slashed. 864 00:51:59,991 --> 00:52:04,913 I didn't know who did it, but I think that was a warning call. 865 00:52:05,539 --> 00:52:08,834 Things are a little more serious than what you want to be. 866 00:52:12,379 --> 00:52:14,047 It threw me off. 867 00:52:14,131 --> 00:52:19,928 I was waking up with, uh, nightmares three o'clock every morning. 868 00:52:20,011 --> 00:52:25,183 And I was talking to three different psychologists at the time, 869 00:52:26,059 --> 00:52:28,603 to just be able to cope with it. 870 00:52:29,396 --> 00:52:31,398 [somber music playing] 871 00:52:38,947 --> 00:52:41,158 [Irvin] There's a lot of lives at stake. 872 00:52:44,077 --> 00:52:48,081 I would have nightmares of airplanes crashing very close to me. 873 00:52:48,165 --> 00:52:53,461 I've had airplanes crash so close to me, I can feel the heat from them in my sleep. 874 00:52:56,673 --> 00:52:58,091 [Mohawk] That keeps me up at night. 875 00:52:58,175 --> 00:53:01,094 I hope there's not another MAX airplane loss, 876 00:53:01,178 --> 00:53:02,929 but it does keep me up at night. 877 00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:11,938 Just losing battle after battle, and betrayed over and over again. 878 00:53:12,814 --> 00:53:14,858 It just is gonna weigh you down. 879 00:53:16,776 --> 00:53:18,111 I felt helpless. 880 00:53:21,656 --> 00:53:23,867 [Seitz] The workers would be more than happy 881 00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:25,952 to speak out to the public, 882 00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:29,456 but they're in fear of losing their jobs. 883 00:53:30,415 --> 00:53:33,627 They have years to work. 884 00:53:34,169 --> 00:53:37,964 They can't afford to be fired from their positions. 885 00:53:39,299 --> 00:53:42,886 There's definitely a culture of fear. 886 00:53:42,969 --> 00:53:44,971 [crickets chirping] 887 00:53:45,055 --> 00:53:47,349 [boat engine rumbling] 888 00:53:53,313 --> 00:53:57,234 {\an8}After John left Boeing, he kept seeing all these problems, 889 00:53:57,317 --> 00:53:58,568 {\an8}and it really weighed on him. 890 00:53:59,903 --> 00:54:02,030 So we filed the case. 891 00:54:02,948 --> 00:54:06,576 {\an8}John Barnett's case against Boeing involved exposure 892 00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:08,328 {\an8}to a hostile work environment, 893 00:54:09,037 --> 00:54:13,458 with allegations of retaliation by Boeing against him. 894 00:54:14,376 --> 00:54:15,961 He had been gaslighted 895 00:54:16,044 --> 00:54:19,589 for years and years and years and years when he was there. 896 00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:22,592 Mr. Barnett, you testified that, what did he say, 897 00:54:22,676 --> 00:54:24,761 something about he was gonna break you? 898 00:54:24,844 --> 00:54:27,180 -He was gonna push me until I broke. -[Boeing lawyer] Okay. 899 00:54:27,264 --> 00:54:29,474 Was… Was he joking when he said that? 900 00:54:29,557 --> 00:54:30,767 Oh, absolutely not. 901 00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:33,478 [Turkewitz] We filed a complaint, 902 00:54:33,561 --> 00:54:37,607 and we had to compel Boeing to produce documents. 903 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,820 It took forever to get responses from Boeing. 904 00:54:44,197 --> 00:54:47,617 Whistleblower cases are very complicated cases. 905 00:54:48,576 --> 00:54:53,623 Oftentimes, when whistleblowers go public, when they're terminated, 906 00:54:53,707 --> 00:54:58,586 the employer takes possession of their laptops or their phones. 907 00:54:59,587 --> 00:55:01,923 That means they have no evidence to back up. 908 00:55:02,007 --> 00:55:03,550 It's just he said, she said. 909 00:55:03,633 --> 00:55:05,218 [pensive music playing] 910 00:55:06,344 --> 00:55:10,557 [Turkewitz] What really set John's situation apart from others 911 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,310 is that John had actually documented everything. 912 00:55:15,437 --> 00:55:18,148 And he said that someday in the future, 913 00:55:18,231 --> 00:55:20,567 there was gonna be a reckoning with Boeing, 914 00:55:20,650 --> 00:55:24,321 and he was gonna have the proof to demonstrate where they failed. 915 00:55:25,196 --> 00:55:28,783 [Boeing lawyer] Let's talk about the oxygen investigation. 916 00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:35,123 Around July 2016, there was an issue with defective oxygen canisters. 917 00:55:35,206 --> 00:55:36,708 -Is that correct? -Right. 918 00:55:38,126 --> 00:55:42,088 [Boeing lawyer] You discovered that some of the oxygen squibs 919 00:55:42,172 --> 00:55:44,466 were not properly dispensing oxygen. 920 00:55:45,383 --> 00:55:48,094 [Barnett] We had about 15% that didn't initiate. 921 00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:52,515 [Boeing lawyer] You had just performed kind of informal tests 922 00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,769 and had come up with this 15% failure rate, correct? 923 00:55:56,353 --> 00:55:59,397 No, it really wasn't an informal test. 924 00:56:00,774 --> 00:56:03,735 -I said, "We need to take a closer look." -[Boeing lawyer] Mm-hmm. 925 00:56:03,818 --> 00:56:06,446 [Barnett] So I actually pulled fresh squibs out of stores, 926 00:56:06,529 --> 00:56:08,865 still in the packages, 927 00:56:08,948 --> 00:56:11,201 and we sent that control group. 928 00:56:13,745 --> 00:56:16,164 The failure rate actually went up to 25%. 929 00:56:16,247 --> 00:56:17,624 That set off all kinds of alarms, 930 00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:19,626 and I was like, "Okay, this is a serious issue." 931 00:56:21,503 --> 00:56:25,298 {\an8}Say you're flying at 40,000 feet, and for some reason, 932 00:56:25,382 --> 00:56:28,551 {\an8}you have a massive decompression, and the oxygen masks drop. 933 00:56:28,635 --> 00:56:29,594 [alert dinging] 934 00:56:31,638 --> 00:56:34,265 {\an8}You have 20 seconds to get your mask on 935 00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:36,684 {\an8}before it starts getting into lack of oxygen, 936 00:56:36,768 --> 00:56:40,563 {\an8}and it'll actually create brain damage and, in some cases, even death. 937 00:56:40,647 --> 00:56:41,940 {\an8}[clock beeping] 938 00:56:42,023 --> 00:56:44,192 {\an8}Imagine you're not getting oxygen. 939 00:56:46,027 --> 00:56:48,196 {\an8}Say you're sitting there with your kids. 940 00:56:48,279 --> 00:56:50,115 {\an8}Who gets the oxygen? Who don't? 941 00:56:50,198 --> 00:56:52,200 {\an8}-[pensive music playing] -[zapping] 942 00:56:56,538 --> 00:56:59,082 [Boeing lawyer] During the course of you documenting 943 00:56:59,165 --> 00:57:01,042 the issue with the oxygen squibs, 944 00:57:01,126 --> 00:57:04,629 no one criticized you for documenting that issue, correct? 945 00:57:04,712 --> 00:57:06,673 Actually, we do have an email. 946 00:57:07,590 --> 00:57:08,800 Pretty nasty. 947 00:57:10,218 --> 00:57:12,595 He's like, just stop the madness. 948 00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:14,055 That's the kind of attitude he had. 949 00:57:14,139 --> 00:57:17,642 [Boeing lawyer] Mm-hmm. We didn't see that in any of the emails we just looked at. 950 00:57:17,725 --> 00:57:20,478 -Not these, but you have my copies, yes. -[Boeing lawyer] Okay. Okay. 951 00:57:22,856 --> 00:57:26,484 [Turkewitz] John used to say that it takes 8, 10, 12 years 952 00:57:26,568 --> 00:57:28,528 for those defects to manifest. 953 00:57:29,237 --> 00:57:31,739 So he was really concerned about these problems, 954 00:57:31,823 --> 00:57:35,368 that they would manifest down the road and cause a disaster. 955 00:57:42,584 --> 00:57:46,296 [Naoise] The three-year probation from the Department of Justice 956 00:57:46,379 --> 00:57:48,256 was going to expire in a month. 957 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,050 {\an8}That was kind of a mental process, 958 00:57:51,134 --> 00:57:54,345 {\an8}a psychological process we were all going through. 959 00:57:54,429 --> 00:57:56,598 [somber music playing] 960 00:57:56,681 --> 00:58:00,101 The meetings had gone on for months and months. 961 00:58:01,936 --> 00:58:06,900 I even flew to Washington to sit down with the Department of Justice 962 00:58:07,525 --> 00:58:11,112 to explain our concerns that nothing had changed 963 00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:14,866 in the Boeing culture and in the Boeing factories. 964 00:58:16,534 --> 00:58:20,038 We sat down with the head of the fraud section, Glenn Leon. 965 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,625 Then he started to read from a script. 966 00:58:24,125 --> 00:58:28,004 And if we said, "Hang on a sec, what about what we have to say?" 967 00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:30,256 he might huff and puff a bit. 968 00:58:30,882 --> 00:58:33,468 And then he carried on as though we hadn't said anything. 969 00:58:35,011 --> 00:58:37,931 It very much seemed like the Department of Justice 970 00:58:38,014 --> 00:58:40,350 was trying to protect Boeing. 971 00:58:40,433 --> 00:58:42,101 [contemplative music playing] 972 00:58:42,185 --> 00:58:44,062 [cameras clicking] 973 00:58:44,145 --> 00:58:47,357 We go to these courtrooms, and the DOJ and the Boeing lawyers 974 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,527 are on one side of the courtroom talking to each other, 975 00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:52,070 and we're on the other side. 976 00:58:52,153 --> 00:58:53,738 It's like we're the criminals. 977 00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:58,117 [Naoise] When you see the number of lawyers that have passed 978 00:58:58,201 --> 00:59:00,328 from Boeing into the Department of Justice 979 00:59:00,411 --> 00:59:04,082 and from the Department of Justice into the Boeing law firm, 980 00:59:04,165 --> 00:59:07,168 it is complete political entanglement. 981 00:59:12,048 --> 00:59:15,760 Now the deferred prosecution agreement was about to expire. 982 00:59:17,512 --> 00:59:19,722 There was no hope. There was no justice. 983 00:59:19,806 --> 00:59:21,683 There was never going to be accountability. 984 00:59:21,766 --> 00:59:23,017 Forget it. Go home. 985 00:59:25,353 --> 00:59:29,941 [man 1] It doesn't seem that the DOJ is interested in getting the criminals out. 986 00:59:30,024 --> 00:59:35,196 They're interested in getting this case behind them any way they can. 987 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,658 And they're gonna allow the criminals to stay in and do what. 988 00:59:38,741 --> 00:59:41,494 And a lesson will never be learned by anybody. 989 00:59:41,578 --> 00:59:42,870 [man 2] Right now, we are showing 990 00:59:42,954 --> 00:59:47,667 that there are countless issues with production quality matters. 991 00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:49,586 When is the next crash gonna be? 992 00:59:49,669 --> 00:59:51,296 I hope it doesn't happen. 993 00:59:51,379 --> 00:59:53,631 But this is what we're dealing with. 994 01:00:00,346 --> 01:00:02,265 [pensive music playing] 995 01:00:07,562 --> 01:00:11,232 [pilot over radio] Ground, Alaska 1282, push up Charlie 7 North Yankee. 996 01:00:11,316 --> 01:00:13,860 [air traffic controller] Pushback's approved, 2-8 Left. 997 01:00:14,694 --> 01:00:19,490 [passenger 1] It was a typical start-up, taxi, takeoff. 998 01:00:20,742 --> 01:00:23,828 [air traffic controller] Alaska 1282. Runway 2-8 Left. Cleared to take off. 999 01:00:24,579 --> 01:00:26,372 [pilot] Good day, Alaska 1282. 1000 01:00:27,790 --> 01:00:31,210 [passenger 2] My daughter pulled out all sorts of sketching materials 1001 01:00:31,294 --> 01:00:33,046 as the flight took off. 1002 01:00:34,714 --> 01:00:36,966 [passenger 1] My son was sitting on my lap. 1003 01:00:37,050 --> 01:00:39,218 My 3-year-old was in the middle. 1004 01:00:39,302 --> 01:00:41,596 And then my 5-year-old was in the window seat. 1005 01:00:44,974 --> 01:00:46,643 [passenger 2] We're climbing. 1006 01:00:46,726 --> 01:00:48,311 I remember looking over 1007 01:00:48,394 --> 01:00:50,938 and just kind of wanting to see how my family was doing. 1008 01:00:51,731 --> 01:00:54,942 [pilot] Seattle, Alaska 1282, 11,000 climbing 15,000. 1009 01:00:55,026 --> 01:00:57,028 [air traffic controller] Alaska 1282, Seattle Center, 1010 01:00:57,111 --> 01:00:59,030 climb and maintain level of 2-3-0. 1011 01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:02,909 [high-pitched whistling] 1012 01:01:02,992 --> 01:01:08,748 [passenger 2] There was a high-pitched whistling sound and then a boom. 1013 01:01:08,831 --> 01:01:09,999 [loud bang] 1014 01:01:10,708 --> 01:01:11,542 [alarms blaring] 1015 01:01:11,626 --> 01:01:13,336 [pilot] 1282, we are declaring an emergency. 1016 01:01:13,419 --> 01:01:15,588 We are descending down to 10,000-- 1017 01:01:15,672 --> 01:01:16,839 [continues indistinctly] 1018 01:01:16,923 --> 01:01:18,174 [engine roaring] 1019 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,260 [passenger 1] Almost instantly, oxygen masks dropped, 1020 01:01:21,344 --> 01:01:23,971 and I realized there was something really wrong. 1021 01:01:24,055 --> 01:01:25,431 [pilot] We're about to go down. 1022 01:01:26,516 --> 01:01:31,729 [passenger 2] I immediately am disoriented but quickly turn my head, and I see… 1023 01:01:31,813 --> 01:01:33,564 [whooshing] 1024 01:01:34,857 --> 01:01:36,067 …open sky. 1025 01:01:37,694 --> 01:01:39,862 I was just absolutely in shock. 1026 01:01:42,031 --> 01:01:45,118 [passenger 1] I stuck my 1-year-old's legs in between my legs, 1027 01:01:45,201 --> 01:01:46,411 and I pinned him down. 1028 01:01:47,495 --> 01:01:49,414 He was screaming the whole time. 1029 01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:51,249 [wind whooshing] 1030 01:01:52,125 --> 01:01:55,169 [passenger 3] When I got the mask on, there was no airflow. 1031 01:01:57,088 --> 01:01:59,340 Tried to breathe again. There was no oxygen. 1032 01:01:59,424 --> 01:02:01,175 [tense music playing] 1033 01:02:07,348 --> 01:02:09,559 [passenger 2] And I was looking over at my daughter, 1034 01:02:09,642 --> 01:02:11,602 seeing her hair being pulled back. 1035 01:02:12,395 --> 01:02:14,981 She was two rows in front of that opening. 1036 01:02:18,192 --> 01:02:21,154 We thought that the next panel was going to fail 1037 01:02:21,779 --> 01:02:24,532 and that we were not gonna make it out of that flight alive. 1038 01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:30,580 [passenger 1] The oxygen had depleted. 1039 01:02:30,663 --> 01:02:32,540 We started getting that dizzy feeling again, 1040 01:02:32,623 --> 01:02:34,333 and my vision started clouding. 1041 01:02:36,043 --> 01:02:39,297 Both my daughters were looking at me just afraid. 1042 01:02:40,256 --> 01:02:43,384 I hadn't told them it was going to be okay because I didn't know. 1043 01:02:46,137 --> 01:02:49,932 [passenger 2] I was assuming that I had minutes with my family. 1044 01:02:50,683 --> 01:02:53,561 So I'm reaching over, and I put my hand on my wife's back. 1045 01:02:54,896 --> 01:02:57,940 And I just begin to pray. 1046 01:03:00,943 --> 01:03:06,240 [passenger 3] I send a text to my son to say goodbye. 1047 01:03:06,324 --> 01:03:10,953 Let him know he's been the best thing that's ever happened to me. 1048 01:03:11,037 --> 01:03:13,039 [tense music continues] 1049 01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:28,137 [passenger 1] I looked out the window, and the plane dipped under the clouds. 1050 01:03:29,472 --> 01:03:31,098 And we could breathe again. 1051 01:03:34,477 --> 01:03:37,271 I was able to look at my kids and say, "It's gonna be okay." 1052 01:03:38,189 --> 01:03:39,816 [airplane landing] 1053 01:03:51,577 --> 01:03:53,329 [announcer] We begin with breaking news. 1054 01:03:53,955 --> 01:03:55,998 [newscaster] That breaking news is out of Oregon. 1055 01:03:56,082 --> 01:03:57,375 And take a look at this. 1056 01:03:57,458 --> 01:04:00,670 {\an8}Video from inside an airliner still in the air 1057 01:04:00,753 --> 01:04:05,633 {\an8}after a large section of its fuselage blew out during the flight. 1058 01:04:05,716 --> 01:04:07,593 [pensive music playing] 1059 01:04:07,677 --> 01:04:09,470 {\an8}[Gates] When the Alaska incident occurred, 1060 01:04:09,554 --> 01:04:11,848 {\an8}I was just gathering information like everyone else. 1061 01:04:11,931 --> 01:04:13,224 {\an8}I didn't know what had happened. 1062 01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:16,978 {\an8}[Ostrower] I was in my kitchen and my phone blew up. 1063 01:04:17,061 --> 01:04:20,064 {\an8}I knew something was very, very wrong. 1064 01:04:20,147 --> 01:04:23,276 {\an8}[newscaster] National Transportation Safety Board are investigating this. 1065 01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:26,445 {\an8}At cruise altitude, we could have lost the aircraft. 1066 01:04:26,529 --> 01:04:30,324 [reporter] The plane is a Boeing 737 MAX that had just been certified. 1067 01:04:31,158 --> 01:04:33,536 [Gates] What blew off was what's called a door plug. 1068 01:04:33,619 --> 01:04:34,787 It's not an actual door, 1069 01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:38,791 {\an8}but there is an opening there that some airlines put an extra door in. 1070 01:04:39,333 --> 01:04:42,003 {\an8}[Ostrower] I called a close contact at Boeing and told them, 1071 01:04:42,086 --> 01:04:44,297 "This is the kind of stuff that grounds airplanes." 1072 01:04:44,964 --> 01:04:48,843 [reporter 1] The FAA grounded all 737 MAX 9s in the U.S. 1073 01:04:48,926 --> 01:04:51,220 [reporter 2] Saying what happened is likely to exist 1074 01:04:51,304 --> 01:04:53,347 or develop in other planes. 1075 01:04:53,431 --> 01:04:56,017 {\an8}[reporter 3] Boeing denied liability, saying its products were, 1076 01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:58,519 quote, "improperly maintained, or misused 1077 01:04:58,603 --> 01:05:01,772 by persons and/or entities other than Boeing." 1078 01:05:01,856 --> 01:05:05,109 {\an8}Our job is to understand literally everything that has happened. 1079 01:05:05,776 --> 01:05:09,280 [woman] Boeing has not provided us with the documents 1080 01:05:09,363 --> 01:05:13,284 {\an8}and information that we have requested numerous times over the past few months. 1081 01:05:13,367 --> 01:05:15,202 {\an8}They talk about transparency, 1082 01:05:15,286 --> 01:05:16,871 {\an8}but certainly, at least so far, 1083 01:05:16,954 --> 01:05:19,999 {\an8}they're not being transparent about exactly what happened with that plug. 1084 01:05:22,877 --> 01:05:25,504 [Mohawk] I was not surprised by the door plug incident. 1085 01:05:26,047 --> 01:05:27,924 {\an8}I've been fighting for a couple years, 1086 01:05:28,007 --> 01:05:29,926 {\an8}knowing that something like that was gonna happen. 1087 01:05:30,009 --> 01:05:31,928 [mellow music playing] 1088 01:05:32,637 --> 01:05:34,889 I was just relieved that nobody died. 1089 01:05:36,891 --> 01:05:40,645 {\an8}It was a nightmare just having that kind of failure. 1090 01:05:42,855 --> 01:05:48,194 I said to myself, "This is what happens if you don't hold people accountable." 1091 01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:53,115 {\an8}When the door blowout happened and I saw that on the news, 1092 01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:57,828 {\an8}I predicted exactly what they were gonna find during their investigation. 1093 01:05:57,912 --> 01:05:59,997 [music building] 1094 01:06:03,125 --> 01:06:05,962 [Gates] This panel blowing off the plane incident 1095 01:06:06,045 --> 01:06:09,382 was traced back to a quality lapse inside the factory. 1096 01:06:11,092 --> 01:06:13,886 [Ostrower] In 2023, an airplane is coming down the line 1097 01:06:13,970 --> 01:06:17,223 at Boeing's 737 plant near Seattle. 1098 01:06:17,306 --> 01:06:20,685 And it's the airplane that became Alaska 1282. 1099 01:06:21,477 --> 01:06:23,562 There's chaos elsewhere in the factory 1100 01:06:23,646 --> 01:06:27,525 as Boeing is trying to keep up with its own increased production 1101 01:06:27,608 --> 01:06:29,527 and dealing with outsourcing. 1102 01:06:31,278 --> 01:06:33,781 [Gates] The investigation discovered 1103 01:06:33,864 --> 01:06:37,952 that the door team at Boeing had taken off the door plug 1104 01:06:38,035 --> 01:06:42,123 in order to fix things that suppliers didn't get right. 1105 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,043 To do so, they would have had to remove four retaining bolts. 1106 01:06:46,627 --> 01:06:47,753 [cranking] 1107 01:06:48,254 --> 01:06:50,840 And there was one photo in their preliminary report 1108 01:06:50,923 --> 01:06:52,383 that was very telling. 1109 01:06:54,635 --> 01:06:59,765 You could actually see three of the four corners of the door plug. 1110 01:06:59,849 --> 01:07:05,271 And the retaining bolts that were needed to secure it in place weren't there. 1111 01:07:05,354 --> 01:07:07,148 [tense music playing] 1112 01:07:07,231 --> 01:07:08,816 They were never put back. 1113 01:07:11,402 --> 01:07:15,239 Afterwards, that plane flew 154 flights. 1114 01:07:15,322 --> 01:07:18,117 And each time it landed or took off, 1115 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,954 the vibrations shifted the door plug a little tiny bit 1116 01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:27,960 until, eventually, on January 5th of 2024, it blew out. 1117 01:07:28,044 --> 01:07:29,128 [loud bang] 1118 01:07:29,211 --> 01:07:32,298 {\an8}[man] To date, we have still found no paperwork documenting 1119 01:07:32,381 --> 01:07:36,177 {\an8}the removal of 8789's left-hand MED plug. 1120 01:07:36,260 --> 01:07:37,303 {\an8}[Lund] That is correct. 1121 01:07:37,386 --> 01:07:40,306 {\an8}Whoever did the work never recorded it. 1122 01:07:40,389 --> 01:07:41,640 Why not? 1123 01:07:41,724 --> 01:07:44,477 Probably because somebody wanted it done quickly. 1124 01:07:45,686 --> 01:07:48,939 There was a whole system here that was inadequate. 1125 01:07:51,025 --> 01:07:54,612 {\an8}This was a close call, too close. 1126 01:07:54,695 --> 01:07:57,281 {\an8}[reporter] On Capitol Hill today, the FAA chief said 1127 01:07:57,364 --> 01:08:00,242 Boeing quality control had clearly failed. 1128 01:08:00,326 --> 01:08:03,287 {\an8}If you don't have that safety culture, it's hard to make safe airplanes. 1129 01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:05,206 [contemplative music playing] 1130 01:08:05,289 --> 01:08:08,918 [Naoise] Everything that we had been saying, 1131 01:08:09,001 --> 01:08:10,836 that Boeing's culture was broken 1132 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,507 and that these defective planes are continuing to fly, 1133 01:08:15,257 --> 01:08:17,343 had just been proved correct. 1134 01:08:19,762 --> 01:08:21,514 That happened two days before 1135 01:08:21,597 --> 01:08:24,767 this deferred prosecution agreement was about to expire. 1136 01:08:26,227 --> 01:08:27,812 In a way, it's a miracle 1137 01:08:27,895 --> 01:08:30,231 because not only was no one killed, 1138 01:08:30,856 --> 01:08:35,361 now how could they say Boeing have been good during their probationary period? 1139 01:08:35,444 --> 01:08:36,445 They couldn't. 1140 01:08:37,446 --> 01:08:41,867 [newscaster] The Justice Department announced Boeing violated a 2021 agreement 1141 01:08:41,951 --> 01:08:44,370 that protected the company from any charges. 1142 01:08:44,453 --> 01:08:45,788 [reporter] Boeing has responded. 1143 01:08:45,871 --> 01:08:48,290 "We believe that we have honored the terms of that agreement." 1144 01:08:48,374 --> 01:08:49,500 The question now, though, 1145 01:08:49,583 --> 01:08:52,336 what does a potential punishment even look like for Boeing? 1146 01:08:52,419 --> 01:08:54,421 Nobody seems to know just yet. 1147 01:08:55,422 --> 01:08:56,757 It opened up everything again. 1148 01:08:56,841 --> 01:08:58,259 [pensive music playing] 1149 01:08:58,342 --> 01:09:02,471 The investigation by the DOJ and criminal prosecution. 1150 01:09:03,597 --> 01:09:05,307 Everything was back on the table. 1151 01:09:10,604 --> 01:09:14,150 [Boeing lawyer] In the days leading up to you leaving Boeing, 1152 01:09:14,233 --> 01:09:19,780 did you talk to anyone about the stress that you were experiencing at work? 1153 01:09:19,864 --> 01:09:21,157 [Barnett] I talked to my doctors. 1154 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,992 [Boeing lawyer] What did your doctor say? 1155 01:09:23,075 --> 01:09:26,453 She said I was gonna have a heart attack and die, 1156 01:09:26,537 --> 01:09:29,665 or I could have a heart attack and die in that environment, yes. 1157 01:09:29,748 --> 01:09:31,750 [Boeing lawyer] She said, during this appointment, 1158 01:09:31,834 --> 01:09:34,211 you could have a heart attack and die if you don't leave work. 1159 01:09:34,295 --> 01:09:35,212 That's your testimony? 1160 01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:37,673 If I don't get out of that environment, yes. 1161 01:09:37,756 --> 01:09:39,758 [pensive music playing] 1162 01:09:43,220 --> 01:09:45,222 [birds chirping] 1163 01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:49,560 Can we take a few minutes? 1164 01:09:52,605 --> 01:09:56,901 [Turkewitz] Boeing's counsel took his deposition for a full seven hours. 1165 01:09:57,776 --> 01:09:59,778 John was really tired. 1166 01:09:59,862 --> 01:10:05,784 He said that he would like to go back home and resume his deposition at a later date. 1167 01:10:07,328 --> 01:10:10,164 Boeing objected to John's request. 1168 01:10:11,957 --> 01:10:12,917 By this stage, 1169 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,755 John didn't want to do anything that was going to cause a delay in the trial, 1170 01:10:17,838 --> 01:10:22,635 and that he will just come back the next morning and we'd finish it up. 1171 01:10:24,303 --> 01:10:26,513 And he went back to his hotel. 1172 01:10:28,724 --> 01:10:30,309 [thunder rumbling] 1173 01:10:30,392 --> 01:10:34,355 The morning of Saturday, March 9th, 1174 01:10:35,356 --> 01:10:37,483 it was storming outside. 1175 01:10:37,566 --> 01:10:40,402 A lot of thunder, lightning, and really heavy rain. 1176 01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:45,032 By ten o'clock, we hadn't heard anything from John. 1177 01:10:46,575 --> 01:10:50,162 So when the rain slowed down, we all drove there. 1178 01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:52,248 [suspenseful music playing] 1179 01:11:01,173 --> 01:11:03,467 [Knowles] Our hopes as we drove to the hotel 1180 01:11:03,550 --> 01:11:07,179 was that we were gonna just find John having a medical situation 1181 01:11:07,721 --> 01:11:09,390 but that he was gonna be okay. 1182 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,983 I was thinking he maybe had a really severe panic attack 1183 01:11:19,066 --> 01:11:20,567 or something like that. 1184 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,445 But when we went inside the hotel, 1185 01:11:24,154 --> 01:11:26,198 the manager took us in the back, 1186 01:11:26,282 --> 01:11:29,535 and the first thing she said to us was, "I'm sorry for your loss." 1187 01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:35,416 It was really surprising and overwhelming and just a lot of emotion 1188 01:11:36,083 --> 01:11:39,920 when we're learning that they had found John in his truck 1189 01:11:40,838 --> 01:11:42,715 with a gunshot wound to the head. 1190 01:11:45,175 --> 01:11:49,346 The police detective believed it was most likely, uh, suicide. 1191 01:11:51,265 --> 01:11:53,225 [Turkewitz] We had a lot of questions, 1192 01:11:53,976 --> 01:12:00,024 and we wanted to make sure that the police did a full, complete investigation. 1193 01:12:01,817 --> 01:12:04,737 [Knowles] We wanted to see his cell phone content. 1194 01:12:05,821 --> 01:12:09,908 Any witnesses that they interviewed, I'd like to see those witness statements. 1195 01:12:11,327 --> 01:12:13,787 And did they fingerprint the outside of his truck? 1196 01:12:16,665 --> 01:12:20,127 A former employee of the U.S. plane maker Boeing, 1197 01:12:20,210 --> 01:12:22,504 who turned whistleblower, has been found dead. 1198 01:12:22,588 --> 01:12:24,673 [mysterious music playing] 1199 01:12:28,218 --> 01:12:31,096 [Stokes] I talked to him on the Monday before. 1200 01:12:32,181 --> 01:12:35,142 {\an8}I asked him, I said, "When are you coming home?" 1201 01:12:36,018 --> 01:12:40,189 He said, "They put my meeting off, and so I have to stay here." 1202 01:12:40,272 --> 01:12:42,399 "I'll be so glad to get home." 1203 01:12:42,983 --> 01:12:45,652 He said, "I just want to get in my bed." 1204 01:12:48,572 --> 01:12:51,950 And we still have a lot of unanswered questions. 1205 01:12:53,744 --> 01:12:55,829 We just want to know what happened. 1206 01:13:04,421 --> 01:13:05,672 I was shocked. 1207 01:13:10,803 --> 01:13:15,557 Nobody wants to accept the fact that John would do this 1208 01:13:15,641 --> 01:13:21,063 so close to completing what he set out to accomplish, 1209 01:13:21,146 --> 01:13:27,236 bringing awareness to the fact that Boeing was overlooking quality. 1210 01:13:27,986 --> 01:13:29,822 He was at the finish line. 1211 01:13:30,614 --> 01:13:31,698 Um… 1212 01:13:33,033 --> 01:13:36,245 Being found in his truck like that, um, 1213 01:13:37,579 --> 01:13:41,166 you know, it just… it just didn't seem to us that 1214 01:13:41,834 --> 01:13:44,628 that was John… the John that we knew. 1215 01:13:44,711 --> 01:13:48,090 [beeping] 1216 01:13:49,258 --> 01:13:51,927 [Knowles] After that, things got very weird. 1217 01:13:53,011 --> 01:13:55,848 I mean, it was like jumping into an alternate universe. 1218 01:13:56,515 --> 01:13:59,476 [host] He was obviously under an enormous amount of scrutiny, 1219 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,687 but was it enough to take his own life? 1220 01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:03,981 That's what everyone wants to know. 1221 01:14:04,606 --> 01:14:07,860 {\an8}We're trying to nail down the timeline of John Barnett's death 1222 01:14:07,943 --> 01:14:10,195 {\an8}and whether this was indeed a suicide. 1223 01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:12,364 {\an8}People are raising their eyebrows. 1224 01:14:12,948 --> 01:14:15,492 [Knowles] People were saying that John had been killed 1225 01:14:15,576 --> 01:14:18,370 to silence others from speaking out. 1226 01:14:19,621 --> 01:14:23,876 [woman] He said, "But if anything happens to me, it's not suicide." 1227 01:14:23,959 --> 01:14:26,920 I know that he did not commit suicide. 1228 01:14:27,004 --> 01:14:28,338 There's no way. 1229 01:14:28,922 --> 01:14:31,049 [Watters] It just doesn't make sense. 1230 01:14:31,133 --> 01:14:32,593 {\an8}Well, that's our feeling too. 1231 01:14:32,676 --> 01:14:37,181 {\an8}And the Charleston City Police are investigating, and so is the coroner. 1232 01:14:38,474 --> 01:14:41,810 And we're just waiting for the police department and the coroner 1233 01:14:41,894 --> 01:14:44,855 to release a report on what they believe happened. 1234 01:14:44,938 --> 01:14:46,482 [tense music playing] 1235 01:14:46,565 --> 01:14:48,817 [Knowles] The atmosphere was just tense. 1236 01:14:49,443 --> 01:14:51,236 And even I started thinking, 1237 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,364 you know, I'm not clear on what's really happened here. 1238 01:14:56,408 --> 01:14:57,951 [music fades] 1239 01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:07,044 [Meyers] When I had heard about John Barnett losing his life, 1240 01:15:07,127 --> 01:15:08,420 that was traumatic. 1241 01:15:09,129 --> 01:15:11,131 But what really got me angry 1242 01:15:11,215 --> 01:15:16,720 was finding out how he was treated by management for years, 1243 01:15:16,803 --> 01:15:19,890 'cause I could identify with that. 1244 01:15:19,973 --> 01:15:21,975 [pensive music playing] 1245 01:15:22,643 --> 01:15:24,228 I was furious. 1246 01:15:26,563 --> 01:15:30,859 They had their chance to fix all this, and they did nothing. 1247 01:15:33,237 --> 01:15:35,739 So I called The New York Times reporter. 1248 01:15:36,406 --> 01:15:38,033 I just said, use my name 1249 01:15:38,116 --> 01:15:41,495 and let people know I gave you Boeing documentation. 1250 01:15:48,043 --> 01:15:51,838 Going public was completely against my grain for the most part. 1251 01:15:51,922 --> 01:15:55,968 I… I'm not, you know, one that's drawn to a camera. 1252 01:15:56,051 --> 01:16:00,305 Roy Irvin is speaking publicly, on camera, for the first time. 1253 01:16:01,098 --> 01:16:03,308 John Barnett was a lighthouse. 1254 01:16:03,892 --> 01:16:05,978 When I first started at the company, 1255 01:16:06,061 --> 01:16:08,397 he was pointing people in the right direction. 1256 01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:10,649 He's continuing to do that now. 1257 01:16:10,732 --> 01:16:15,028 [Emerson] Roy is on a mission to finish what Barnett started. 1258 01:16:15,112 --> 01:16:18,615 I'm not John, but somebody needs to keep pushing. 1259 01:16:20,993 --> 01:16:26,248 [Seitz] My family has concerns about me taking part in this movie, 1260 01:16:27,666 --> 01:16:29,334 but I'm doing it for John. 1261 01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:35,674 [Salehpour exhales sharply] I was really scared. 1262 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:42,639 But I promised myself I will be speaking up, 1263 01:16:42,723 --> 01:16:44,808 regardless of the consequences. 1264 01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:48,687 I'm here today because I felt that I must come forward. 1265 01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:54,109 {\an8}I have serious concerns about the safety of the 787 and 777 aircraft. 1266 01:16:54,192 --> 01:16:57,404 {\an8}And I'm willing to take on professional risk to talk about them. 1267 01:16:58,488 --> 01:17:01,158 [reporter] We've now learned there is a new whistleblower 1268 01:17:01,241 --> 01:17:02,743 named Sam Mohawk. 1269 01:17:02,826 --> 01:17:04,995 [Mohawk] I put a big target on my back in there. 1270 01:17:05,078 --> 01:17:06,079 So why'd you do it? 1271 01:17:06,163 --> 01:17:07,623 Because I'm concerned with safety. 1272 01:17:07,706 --> 01:17:09,041 Like, at the end of the day, 1273 01:17:09,124 --> 01:17:10,917 my friends and family fly on these airplanes. 1274 01:17:12,294 --> 01:17:13,962 [Knowles] Since John's passing, 1275 01:17:14,046 --> 01:17:19,343 we've been contacted by dozens and dozens and dozens of aviation whistleblowers. 1276 01:17:20,636 --> 01:17:24,806 They all have the same common concerns that John Barnett had. 1277 01:17:24,890 --> 01:17:28,101 [reporter] The New York Times interviewed current and former Boeing employees 1278 01:17:28,185 --> 01:17:30,479 who say the workforce has, quote, "dropped." 1279 01:17:30,562 --> 01:17:33,065 The inspection process has, quote, "weakened." 1280 01:17:33,148 --> 01:17:37,235 And production speed is being prioritized over quality control. 1281 01:17:38,195 --> 01:17:40,572 John inspired a lot of people to come forward. 1282 01:17:42,199 --> 01:17:43,492 [music fades] 1283 01:17:48,330 --> 01:17:50,957 We're headed to the Charleston County Coroner's Office 1284 01:17:51,041 --> 01:17:52,250 to meet with the coroner 1285 01:17:52,334 --> 01:17:56,380 who reached a conclusion related to John Barnett's passing. 1286 01:17:56,963 --> 01:18:00,926 They're gonna be disclosing the results of their investigation, 1287 01:18:01,009 --> 01:18:05,430 including forensic results and the autopsy results. 1288 01:18:06,014 --> 01:18:07,724 [Knowles] Yeah, there's a lot of questions. 1289 01:18:09,601 --> 01:18:12,521 {\an8}[Turkewitz] This is gonna be a very tough day for John's family. 1290 01:18:14,773 --> 01:18:16,358 Can y'all hear me okay? 1291 01:18:16,942 --> 01:18:18,235 Yes, thank you. 1292 01:18:18,819 --> 01:18:21,405 -Good morning, Rodney. Can you hear me? -Good morning. Yes, ma'am. 1293 01:18:22,114 --> 01:18:28,286 {\an8}So we were notified, um, of a… a death in a vehicle at the hotel. 1294 01:18:28,370 --> 01:18:31,915 The vehicle, it was locked, and they had to open it up. 1295 01:18:32,791 --> 01:18:36,503 We then, uh, photographed everything as we found it. 1296 01:18:37,087 --> 01:18:39,589 [somber music playing] 1297 01:18:40,590 --> 01:18:44,219 The Charleston Police Department came up with about 80 fingerprints 1298 01:18:44,302 --> 01:18:45,887 that belonged to John. 1299 01:18:48,265 --> 01:18:51,351 There was nothing to let us think that there had been a struggle 1300 01:18:51,435 --> 01:18:52,811 or anything of that nature. 1301 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,275 We did obtain the hotel surveillance cameras 1302 01:18:59,025 --> 01:19:02,529 where we can see John coming into the lobby. 1303 01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:07,325 And then he exits the hotel at 8:37. 1304 01:19:08,243 --> 01:19:13,331 {\an8}His truck is seen backing into a parking spot at 8:45. 1305 01:19:14,708 --> 01:19:18,962 {\an8}No one is seen entering the vehicle, exiting the vehicle 1306 01:19:19,045 --> 01:19:21,506 until first responders find him. 1307 01:19:24,217 --> 01:19:27,137 One of the questions that has been lingering is, 1308 01:19:27,220 --> 01:19:30,891 were you able to determine that the bullet matched the gun? 1309 01:19:30,974 --> 01:19:36,772 Yes. What was found in the headliner is what matches to his weapon. 1310 01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:42,277 I think it's consistent that it's John's weapon, 1311 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,321 he's inside his vehicle, 1312 01:19:44,404 --> 01:19:46,615 and the manner of death is suicide. 1313 01:19:46,698 --> 01:19:49,034 [somber music playing] 1314 01:19:56,917 --> 01:19:58,168 [Stokes] Heart-wrenching… 1315 01:20:00,170 --> 01:20:02,839 to know what, uh, my son had gone through, 1316 01:20:02,923 --> 01:20:05,926 and I saw some of it, 1317 01:20:06,009 --> 01:20:10,972 but I guess I just didn't realize how much it bothered him. 1318 01:20:12,307 --> 01:20:13,600 [O'Neal] Call me if you need me. 1319 01:20:13,683 --> 01:20:14,643 Thank you. 1320 01:20:14,726 --> 01:20:15,894 [O'Neal] You're welcome. 1321 01:20:15,977 --> 01:20:17,354 -Bye-bye. -[Rodney] Bye. 1322 01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:19,940 [Stokes sighs] 1323 01:20:20,023 --> 01:20:22,108 Give me a hug after that. [sobs] 1324 01:20:31,243 --> 01:20:32,369 [Knowles] These are the items 1325 01:20:32,452 --> 01:20:36,498 that the Charleston City Police Department released back to us. 1326 01:20:37,541 --> 01:20:39,835 John's, uh, laptop. 1327 01:20:43,213 --> 01:20:45,090 This was his cell phone. 1328 01:20:47,259 --> 01:20:48,635 And John's notebook. 1329 01:20:49,594 --> 01:20:51,596 [intriguing music playing] 1330 01:20:53,849 --> 01:20:55,517 And written inside there 1331 01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:00,480 is the suicide note that John left before he took his life. 1332 01:21:04,818 --> 01:21:06,111 "Fuck Boeing." 1333 01:21:07,571 --> 01:21:10,240 "I can't do this any longer. Enough." 1334 01:21:10,866 --> 01:21:14,870 "I pray the motherfuckers that destroyed my life pay." 1335 01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:17,539 "I pray Boeing pays." 1336 01:21:20,292 --> 01:21:25,255 "Bury me face down so Boeing and their lying-ass leaders can kiss my ass." 1337 01:21:26,923 --> 01:21:30,427 "To my family and friends, I found my purpose. I'm at peace." 1338 01:21:30,510 --> 01:21:31,636 "I love you more." 1339 01:21:32,178 --> 01:21:35,849 And then he signed, John Mitch, aka Swampy. 1340 01:21:38,685 --> 01:21:42,480 [Turkewitz] And it's one of those things where you just keep asking yourself, 1341 01:21:42,564 --> 01:21:44,691 "What could have I done differently?" 1342 01:21:45,442 --> 01:21:46,318 Yeah. 1343 01:21:48,528 --> 01:21:51,448 But one thing is for sure, and that is, 1344 01:21:52,115 --> 01:21:54,534 you know, Boeing may not have pulled the trigger, 1345 01:21:54,618 --> 01:21:58,079 but Boeing was responsible for John's death. 1346 01:22:03,376 --> 01:22:06,421 [reporter] Today, a congressional hearing is putting the safety and quality 1347 01:22:06,504 --> 01:22:08,715 of Boeing's commercial jets in the spotlight. 1348 01:22:08,798 --> 01:22:10,425 [pensive music playing] 1349 01:22:10,508 --> 01:22:15,972 After the 737 MAX crashes, Boeing promised to turn things around. 1350 01:22:17,015 --> 01:22:21,519 {\an8}And whistleblowers came forward reporting to us 1351 01:22:21,603 --> 01:22:24,773 that, in fact, there was simply more of the same. 1352 01:22:25,690 --> 01:22:27,692 Improper fastening, 1353 01:22:28,276 --> 01:22:30,820 use of defective and damaged parts, 1354 01:22:31,488 --> 01:22:34,032 lapses in manufacturing quality. 1355 01:22:35,241 --> 01:22:40,372 There is certainly mounting evidence that a prosecution is justified. 1356 01:22:41,831 --> 01:22:46,503 And we felt more and more that we had to demand accountability. 1357 01:22:46,586 --> 01:22:52,717 And that's the reason why Dave Calhoun, the CEO, will be a witness today. 1358 01:22:52,801 --> 01:22:54,803 [pensive music continues] 1359 01:22:58,598 --> 01:23:00,100 [music fades] 1360 01:23:02,352 --> 01:23:04,270 [woman] This is my daughter, Danielle Moore. 1361 01:23:04,354 --> 01:23:06,564 Danielle was just 24 years old 1362 01:23:07,148 --> 01:23:11,820 when she died on Boeing 737 MAX. 1363 01:23:11,903 --> 01:23:14,114 So, my name is Zipporah Kuria, 1364 01:23:14,197 --> 01:23:16,574 and I lost my dad, Joseph Kuria Waithaka. 1365 01:23:17,575 --> 01:23:20,996 As the agencies involved in making decisions that matter, 1366 01:23:21,079 --> 01:23:22,163 if you fail to prosecute, 1367 01:23:22,247 --> 01:23:26,876 if you fail to teach history a real lesson of justice, and it repeats itself, 1368 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,586 how will you live with yourselves? 1369 01:23:28,670 --> 01:23:30,672 -[indistinct chatter] -[cameras clicking] 1370 01:23:30,755 --> 01:23:32,257 [somber music playing] 1371 01:23:43,184 --> 01:23:45,854 [parent of deceased] You destroyed our son's life, 1372 01:23:45,937 --> 01:23:47,939 and you killed our children. 1373 01:23:48,773 --> 01:23:52,610 We will never have a chance to see and hug them 1374 01:23:52,694 --> 01:23:55,238 just the way you do with your family. 1375 01:23:55,321 --> 01:23:57,198 Give us the answer. 1376 01:23:57,282 --> 01:23:59,409 [woman] Stop putting profit over people. 1377 01:23:59,492 --> 01:24:01,202 [parent of deceased] Think of the six minutes 1378 01:24:01,286 --> 01:24:03,705 of my daughter's last breath on the plane. 1379 01:24:04,706 --> 01:24:07,584 Six minutes that she called for me. 1380 01:24:07,667 --> 01:24:11,087 {\an8}Five years ago, 346 innocent people 1381 01:24:11,171 --> 01:24:14,049 {\an8}lost their lives in two preventable tragedies. 1382 01:24:14,758 --> 01:24:19,220 In the wake of those tragedies, Boeing promised to turn itself around. 1383 01:24:19,804 --> 01:24:24,059 And for a while, some sort of believed that Boeing might have changed. 1384 01:24:24,142 --> 01:24:26,186 But then this past January, 1385 01:24:26,269 --> 01:24:31,066 the facade literally blew off the hollow shell 1386 01:24:31,149 --> 01:24:34,194 that had been Boeing's promises to the world. 1387 01:24:35,236 --> 01:24:39,699 The issues before us today are a matter of life and death. 1388 01:24:39,783 --> 01:24:43,787 {\an8}And this hearing is a moment of reckoning. 1389 01:24:45,330 --> 01:24:50,043 I would like to welcome in particular some of the members of the audience 1390 01:24:50,126 --> 01:24:51,669 who are here today. 1391 01:24:52,378 --> 01:24:54,297 {\an8}The family of John Barnett, 1392 01:24:55,215 --> 01:25:00,136 {\an8}his mother, Vicky Stokes, and brother, Rodney Barnett, 1393 01:25:01,012 --> 01:25:04,516 a Boeing whistleblower who committed suicide 1394 01:25:04,599 --> 01:25:08,394 under the immense pressure that the company put on him 1395 01:25:08,478 --> 01:25:10,271 for raising safety claims. 1396 01:25:12,232 --> 01:25:17,153 David Calhoun has served as President and Chief Executive Officer of Boeing 1397 01:25:17,237 --> 01:25:19,280 since January 2020, 1398 01:25:19,364 --> 01:25:23,576 {\an8}and he began his career at General Electric Company, GE, 1399 01:25:23,660 --> 01:25:26,454 {\an8}where he spent 26 years. 1400 01:25:27,872 --> 01:25:31,042 {\an8}Mr. Calhoun, it seems like every other day 1401 01:25:31,126 --> 01:25:35,004 {\an8}news breaks of a new problem or safety concern with Boeing aircraft. 1402 01:25:35,088 --> 01:25:38,550 So what are the root causes of this systemic failure? 1403 01:25:38,633 --> 01:25:41,928 {\an8}How are you gonna fix it? And who should we hold accountable? 1404 01:25:42,011 --> 01:25:44,722 {\an8}Does the buck stop with you or with somebody else? 1405 01:25:45,431 --> 01:25:51,604 The contributing causes to most everything outside of the Alaska accident 1406 01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:56,442 relate to a variety of inputs that are downstream 1407 01:25:56,526 --> 01:26:00,655 with respect to operating and maintenance and et cetera with an airplane. 1408 01:26:00,738 --> 01:26:01,739 Um… 1409 01:26:02,365 --> 01:26:04,951 Alaska was a manufacturing defect. 1410 01:26:05,034 --> 01:26:08,538 I'm not aware of any others that were. Um… 1411 01:26:08,621 --> 01:26:11,583 [Blumenthal] The suppliers of parts and components, 1412 01:26:12,792 --> 01:26:14,377 Boeing blames them. 1413 01:26:15,253 --> 01:26:20,550 The workers whose jobs are at stake, Boeing blames them. 1414 01:26:21,217 --> 01:26:26,681 The pilots who fly these planes, Boeing blames them. 1415 01:26:26,764 --> 01:26:30,018 Boeing blames everyone except itself. 1416 01:26:30,685 --> 01:26:33,771 This… So much of this relates to an untrained workforce. 1417 01:26:33,855 --> 01:26:37,108 I… I… It's all about that, honestly. 1418 01:26:38,693 --> 01:26:43,323 Uh, Mr. Calhoun, what is it that… that you get paid currently? 1419 01:26:44,324 --> 01:26:47,869 Senator, that's well disclosed in our proxy documents, 1420 01:26:47,952 --> 01:26:50,288 uh, in… in each of the years that I've been employed. 1421 01:26:50,371 --> 01:26:51,998 {\an8}Yeah, but what is it? 1422 01:26:52,081 --> 01:26:54,959 -It's a big number, sir. -[Hawley] Well, let me help you out. 1423 01:26:55,043 --> 01:26:57,128 {\an8}It's $32.8 million this year. Does that sound right? 1424 01:26:57,212 --> 01:26:58,463 Yes, it does. 1425 01:26:58,546 --> 01:27:02,342 That's a 45% increase over last year. Does that sound right? 1426 01:27:02,425 --> 01:27:03,968 [smacks lips] Yes, it does. 1427 01:27:04,052 --> 01:27:06,387 [Hawley] What is it you get paid to do exactly? 1428 01:27:07,013 --> 01:27:08,681 I get paid to run the Boeing Company. 1429 01:27:08,765 --> 01:27:12,310 {\an8}Yeah. Is quality part of your compensation package? 1430 01:27:12,393 --> 01:27:16,231 Because we've had multiple whistleblowers come before this committee and allege 1431 01:27:16,314 --> 01:27:20,526 {\an8}that Boeing is cutting every possible corner on quality and safety, 1432 01:27:20,610 --> 01:27:22,862 {\an8}not just in the past but now. 1433 01:27:22,946 --> 01:27:25,365 They've alleged that you've eliminated safety inspections, 1434 01:27:25,448 --> 01:27:28,326 that there are fewer inspectors doing quality inspections out there. 1435 01:27:28,409 --> 01:27:31,829 They've alleged that when they raised issues and concerns, 1436 01:27:31,913 --> 01:27:34,457 they were reassigned, they were retaliated against, 1437 01:27:34,540 --> 01:27:36,209 they were physically threatened. 1438 01:27:36,793 --> 01:27:39,504 {\an8}That doesn't sound like attention to quality to me. 1439 01:27:39,587 --> 01:27:44,300 {\an8}And yet you're getting paid $33 million a year. 1440 01:27:44,384 --> 01:27:46,552 [pensive music playing] 1441 01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,601 {\an8}[Gelles] Boeing is in worse shape than ever, 1442 01:27:53,685 --> 01:27:56,479 and what's really hard to accept 1443 01:27:57,063 --> 01:28:00,566 is that the executives who made all those decisions 1444 01:28:00,650 --> 01:28:02,694 are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. 1445 01:28:04,028 --> 01:28:05,780 Boeing is in shambles, 1446 01:28:06,364 --> 01:28:10,493 and the very small group of men who got the company there 1447 01:28:10,576 --> 01:28:13,913 are some of the richest people in the world. 1448 01:28:15,832 --> 01:28:19,168 [Gates] There have been many executives who have come into Boeing, 1449 01:28:19,711 --> 01:28:21,754 come into companies across America, 1450 01:28:22,630 --> 01:28:26,384 who see their jobs as cost-cutting, 1451 01:28:27,969 --> 01:28:31,597 squeezing money out of the company to increase profits. 1452 01:28:32,348 --> 01:28:35,226 {\an8}You're strip-mining it. You're strip-mining Boeing. 1453 01:28:35,310 --> 01:28:37,395 {\an8}It was one of the greatest American companies ever. 1454 01:28:37,478 --> 01:28:40,106 {\an8}It has employed thousands of people in my state, 1455 01:28:40,189 --> 01:28:44,319 {\an8}and you are strip-mining it for profit, shareholder value, 1456 01:28:44,402 --> 01:28:45,903 {\an8}and you're being rewarded for it. 1457 01:28:45,987 --> 01:28:48,448 {\an8}You got a huge raise, a huge increase. 1458 01:28:48,990 --> 01:28:53,286 {\an8}So, it's working out great for you, not for the American people. 1459 01:28:54,329 --> 01:28:57,373 Many of these executives have no connection 1460 01:28:57,457 --> 01:28:58,958 to the product they're making. 1461 01:28:59,042 --> 01:29:01,669 They were hired because they had some kind of business degree. 1462 01:29:01,753 --> 01:29:03,880 It's a characteristic that successful companies have 1463 01:29:03,963 --> 01:29:05,882 and unsuccessful companies don't have. 1464 01:29:05,965 --> 01:29:07,800 {\an8}This year, we're at 47 a month. 1465 01:29:07,884 --> 01:29:10,053 {\an8}We're gonna be taking it up to 52 a month. 1466 01:29:10,136 --> 01:29:12,597 {\an8}That forecast is getting more and more robust every day, 1467 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,432 {\an8}and if we can get some help from the Congress, 1468 01:29:14,515 --> 01:29:17,018 we will ultimately realize those gains. 1469 01:29:17,810 --> 01:29:19,604 [air traffic controller] Frontier Flight 2688, 1470 01:29:19,687 --> 01:29:22,565 Portland Tower, runway 2-8 Left, cleared for takeoff. 1471 01:29:22,648 --> 01:29:24,692 [pilot] 2-8 Left, cleared for takeoff. 1472 01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:28,488 [Meyers] Boeing likes to attack the symptoms. 1473 01:29:29,155 --> 01:29:33,159 Some part flies off an airplane, or an engine catches fire, 1474 01:29:33,951 --> 01:29:39,415 they want to go after a quick fix, and then they can say they did something. 1475 01:29:39,499 --> 01:29:44,754 Boeing never attacks the disease, which is their leadership model. 1476 01:29:46,881 --> 01:29:49,509 Pursuit of money at all costs 1477 01:29:50,134 --> 01:29:54,180 rather than making the greatest airplane in the world. 1478 01:29:56,766 --> 01:29:59,811 [Gelles] In most companies, the stakes aren't people's lives. 1479 01:30:00,395 --> 01:30:02,563 But at Boeing, they are. 1480 01:30:05,483 --> 01:30:09,529 When the quality of Boeing suffers, people die. 1481 01:30:12,198 --> 01:30:14,742 [Gates] We all need safe air travel. 1482 01:30:15,743 --> 01:30:17,328 We need safe airplanes. 1483 01:30:18,371 --> 01:30:20,331 Boeing needs to be held accountable. 1484 01:30:22,917 --> 01:30:24,961 [pensive music playing] 1485 01:30:59,412 --> 01:31:02,707 [Naoise] They really just wanted to get rid of us. 1486 01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:07,044 But I don't think I can walk away and just say, "There's nothing we can do," 1487 01:31:07,128 --> 01:31:08,337 and put my hands in the air. 1488 01:31:09,964 --> 01:31:12,842 There's been no justice, no accountability. 1489 01:31:14,010 --> 01:31:15,511 It makes me so angry. 1490 01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:20,183 And I think that we have to keep fighting. 1491 01:31:22,310 --> 01:31:25,313 {\an8}It can't be allowed to just stay this way. 1492 01:31:27,523 --> 01:31:30,067 Something has to change. 1493 01:31:32,945 --> 01:31:34,947 [solemn music playing] 1494 01:33:07,456 --> 01:33:09,417 [music fades] 123346

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