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you are somebody who practices of a
partner does that help you get closer to
the force is that where you get closer
to the force I practice the personal
meditation to see reality more clearly
to be able to see what is reality what
is really happening right here right now
I'm not doing this any kind of religious
exercise to get in touch with this force
or that force with this story or that
story it's really for me then the least
dogmatic thing I ever encountered in
life is the personal meditation it just
tells you just observe what is really
happening right now as it is without
trying to impose any story on it without
trying to change it in any way when I
remember the first time I went to a
course and the first instruction I got
from the teacher was observe your breath
not observe God not observe the soul
just observe your breath coming in and
out of your nostrils and just accept the
breath whatever it is if it's strong if
it's weak if it comes from this nostril
oh that not it doesn't matter just
observe the reality as it is and what
amazed me was that I couldn't do it for
more than ten seconds immediately the
mind ran away to some story some fantasy
some memory if I can't observe the
reality of my own breath for 10 seconds
how can I hope to observe the reality of
the global political system of the
global economic system that's exactly
the question so I try I try to do both
I've been practicing for 18 years now
and it's been very well I don't know
more than 10 seconds no more than 10
seconds a try sometimes I succeed I this
year I went to a 60 days course
I think CDs 60 days I didn't stay
focused for 60 days of course the mind
keeps running away but keep trying and I
don't think I could have written any of
my books without the help of of the
focus and the discipline the endure and
their clarity that this kind of
meditation gives so when you're deep in
meditation I'm dying to ask this
question and we have quite a lot of
people from Bollywood here today so
they've obviously seen some of these
films does everything start looking like
in algorithms and codes like in matrix
you have a pain in the stomach and your
knee hurts and then the mind runs away
to some memory and this is how you get
to know yourself I think I think many
people make a mistake about meditation
that they think meditation is a tool to
get all kinds of special experiences
like I go to an amusement park and this
is another kind of amusement park I'll
use meditation to have all kinds of
special experiences and actually I think
the most important benefit of meditation
is to get to know the most ordinary
daily natural patterns of your mind and
of your body to get to know your anger
your pain your joy your your boredom
because this is what you have to deal
with a lot in life if meditation is a
kind of vacation like for a couple of
days I have these spiritual experiences
but then for most of the year I still
have to deal with my anger and my
boredom it didn't really help me is this
the purpose of life is this the purpose
of life as you see it well I think that
the key to a good life is to be able to
observe reality as it is
- really under what what is the truth
about myself and about the world without
running away - all kinds of fantasies
and stories and fictions
and I think if you can observe to some
degree reality as it is you're not just
you won't just be a much better person
but you'll probably be a much more
peaceful and happy person because the
deep source of so much of our personal
and collective problems is in the
fantasies that we create and then we
mistake them from reality for reality
and then we try to impose them on
reality and we get extremely upset when
it doesn't work when reality doesn't
conform to our favorite fantasy but it's
also part of the paradox because what
you're saying is sit quietly in
meditation go in and then we have all
this technology constantly calling out
to us I mean everyone here I'm sure
would agree with me that if your phone
is away from you for five minutes you're
like where's my phone where's my phone
where's my phone you're checking your
phone exam it's also observed that when
what's happening to you when you are
away from your phone what's happening in
your body you will see that there are a
lot of unpleasant sensations in your
body at the time what's happening in
your mind
this is how you get to know yourself you
get to know yourself not by observing
some blissful metaphysical mystical
experience you get to know yourself by
observing what happens to me when when
the phone is away and once you witness
how much misery
I am inflicting on myself by my own
habits this can help you in changing
these harmful habits
so one of the things you've said before
is that suffering is a sign of
consciousness if something suffers then
it's real and it's conscious then is our
purpose to suffer happy
certainly not I'm not saying that we are
here to suffer we try to be we can
liberate ourselves from suffering what I
said in in some of what I wrote is that
the best test to know whether an entity
is real or whether it's a fiction
invented by politicians and then
religious leaders and so forth is to ask
can this entity suffer a nation for
example is just a human creation it's a
fictional story created by humans how do
you know just ask yourself can a nation
suffer if you lose a wall does the
nation suffer no the nation has no mind
no feelings no sensations soldiers who
die in war they suffer civilians who
lose their house although loved ones in
war they suffer animals can suffer but a
nation cannot suffer it's just a story
we created so this is the idea of the
test of suffering is a test to know
whether something is real or not
similarly I don't know if you have some
temple and somebody destroys the temple
the temple doesn't suffer only people
suffer the people who care about this
temple when they hear that it is
destroyed they have a very unpleasant
sensation in the body they have very
unpleasant emotions in the mind they
suffer but the temple it's just you know
stones and bricks and wood and so forth
but it represents a certain amount of
emotions now there in Israel
which is connected to everything we have
a temple here as well which is kind of
connected to everything so yeah but we
invest the tempo with importance we
suffer when the temple is destroyed we
rejoice when the temple is built it's
really about us not about the temple and
I would say also to people in Israel who
care very much about the temple but the
deep purpose of a place like a temple is
to bring peace and harmony to the world
to make people I go to a temple to
experience peace and harmony now if a
temple brings violence and disharmony to
the world it's a broken temple what do
you need it for thank you
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