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Cream and sugar?
Cream and sugar!
Black.
Who are you?
I told you, my name is Bill.
What am I doing here?
Well, I found you lying in the street.
Well, actually, I saw you walking down towards the docks as I was driving by,
and then I heard the screams and went racing back there.
Kind of looked as though you needed help.
Yeah.
Well, getting the police...
Then I thought maybe you wouldn't want to get involved.
I saw your pictures.
Oh. Well, I'm not what you're thinking.
Believe me, I'm not thinking anything.
I just thought it was kind of a strange place for a girl to be after midnight.
You can still call the police. Tell them what happened. It's only been a few
hours.
No.
What good would it do?
I want to forget about it.
Everything.
And your name's Danielle?
Oh, it's written all over your pictures.
Um, they call me Danny.
That's French.
Yeah, it's about as French as you can get from Iowa.
Okay, Danny, it is.
Doctor was here earlier.
He said you were okay. I guess you were pretty lucky.
Who are you?
I mean, what is this place?
Well, this is my apartment. Oh, that stuff, it's for television. I'm a
television producer. I do, uh...
Series of interviews. I write them and direct them. Is that why you brought me
here?
Oh, good Lord, no. Say, look, you're free to leave any time you want. The
doctor checked you out.
No.
No, it's nice here.
I like it.
Look, I'm sorry.
I mean, I guess I should thank you.
That's all right. Forget it.
Guess you had a pretty rough time, I mean, last night.
Last night?
ever since I can remember.
Look, I don't want to cry. Remember, I promised you this is not for a TV show.
I don't want to butt into your business.
I know. I said I was sorry.
Look, I've got to get moving on an assignment I'm working on now, but you
can stay here for the day if you'd like. I'll be back later, and I'll see you
when I get back.
You're crazy.
Why do you say that?
Well, for all you know about me, I could be a thief.
Or a murderer or something.
I'm not too worried.
I'll tell you one thing, though. It was kind of strange.
A girl like you wandering around the waterfront at midnight.
You want to hear about it?
I feel like telling me.
A girl like me?
Well, look at me.
attractive. Oh, yeah.
Ever since I was a kid, men have been telling me that.
Doing things for me.
Buying me stuff.
Giving me jobs.
Just so they could look at me.
Well, I know a lot of girls would envy you.
Well, a lot of girls would be stupid then.
My father told me it would be so easy for me.
But I'd never have to worry.
Well, I guess it was.
But after a while, I began to feel like I wasn't a person.
I mean, I wasn't anything.
Just a body.
Well, I think you're being a little extreme.
Well, do you think so? I don't think so.
Right. Look.
I always wanted to be something.
You know, to do something important.
But I never got the chance.
And my father was killed in the war.
He was a sailor.
God, I used to love him.
What about your mother?
Well, she was always sick.
And I had to work to support my brothers and sisters, four of them.
Oh, I didn't mind. I like to work.
And it was easy for me to find a job.
I told you, men just like to look at me.
Like to have me around to have their friends look, too.
And then after a while, looking isn't good enough.
I'm always having to run from one filthy situation to another.
Oh, I hate it.
I guess you think I'm crazy that I should be so happy to be so popular and
all that.
I guess it's hard for you to understand.
Maybe not.
Well, all I can say is that I began to hate it.
Hate myself, even.
How'd you get to New York?
Oh... Why am I telling you all this?
I never talked to anybody like this before.
this beauty contest.
The prize was a trip to New York.
Oh, I was so excited.
I don't know, I thought that it would be a chance to make a real life for myself.
I guess I must have been really stupid.
Well, what did you want to do?
I don't know. I don't know.
That's the trouble. I still don't know.
But I have to work to make a living.
Oh, I guess I was stupid.
Well, I just thought that a different place, everything would be different.
The big city.
What a fool I was.
A blind, stupid kid.
Danny, maybe you'd better not.
No, it's all right. I want to tell somebody.
A man named Frank Carroll met me at the station.
He wrote to me after I won the beauty contest.
Oh, Bill, I was so excited.
He'd arranged an apartment for me, but all I cared about was the studio.
Honest, I was so excited. I didn't even notice how crummy the neighborhood was.
agency. Right in, dear.
Well, this is it. One of the biggest agencies in town.
Take off your coat, dear.
Danielle, did you say your name was?
Yes. Take off your coat, sweet.
Here.
Very pretty coat.
May I take it?
Yes, thank you.
You know what I think, Danielle?
I think you're more the high fashion type.
Yeah, that's what I think. You're the high fashion type.
You know, fashion types are very hard to come by.
Well, I think I'll have to lose a little weight.
I can always stop for a while, though, because of all the money I've got. No,
you wouldn't have to lose any weight. You'll do just fine.
And don't worry about the money. You'll be making more than you ever dreamed.
You know, we work for a lot of very high-class people.
Magazines, ads, they pay a lot.
I have to be honest with you, Mr. Charles.
I haven't had any experience modeling.
You'll do fine, Danielle. You'll have the looks. That's all you need.
What's the matter?
Nothing. Oh, I just want to do a good job.
Don't worry. You'll be all right. You're going to do a fine job.
Just leave everything to Frankie Terrell.
You know, we do all kinds of high-class work.
Magazines, ads.
Pays rather well, you know.
Sounds wonderful.
And I was thinking, maybe I could get a part-time job, you know, while I'm
learning. Don't be naive, Danielle. You're an investment for me. And none of
the Terrell girls work evenings behind any grocery store counter or a hash
house. Terrell girls go out nights to the best spots.
Or they stay home and go to sleep.
It sounds too wonderful to be true.
I tell you what, you go out and see a show or something. Tomorrow I'll have a
portfolio made for you. We'll show it around and the work will just come
pouring in. Don't you worry.
Oh, thank you, Mr. Taylor.
Oh, and I promise I'll get to bed early.
Call me Frankie, dear.
Here.
Go out and have a good time or something. See a show.
Don't worry. I'll take it out of your first assignment.
I never saw a $50 bill before.
You're going to see plenty from now on, baby.
Bye then, thanks.
Bye-bye, Danny.
I was excited.
I was thrilled.
I mean, I planned to just pour myself into my work.
It isn't just standing around, you know.
I mean, you have to know how to stand and what to do.
I was so excited.
I can imagine.
Oh, I was a real dunce at first.
They didn't even know what to do with me.
But I worked hard.
I wanted to please them.
I wanted to be good.
I'd work for hours at a time. You know, listening to what they told me and
trying new things on my own.
Mr. Terrell seemed so patient with me, but I stopped worrying about myself. I
felt wonderful.
Soon I knew that I was getting better and smoother.
And one day, Mr. Terrell surprised me.
He'd taken my pictures and he made a presentation book for me.
Money in the bank, he said.
My pictures, my portfolio.
Oh, I felt like I really had made it. I was really going to be somebody.
Well, you must have felt like a queen.
Can you imagine?
I mean...
Expecting to starve for a while.
And after being here only a week, I've made $100.
Did you really make that money?
Well, I think so.
I mean, Frankie said some big clients had definitely placed orders for me.
You think it was true?
That's a funny thing.
I don't know.
I mean, I think it was true.
I mean, I know I did do some jobs. Oh, very small and important work.
hardly any money involved.
But, you know, like those confessions magazines and stuff like that.
I mean, it wasn't a phony thing, Bill. I mean, I did work.
Now, you say that Frankie took all these pictures in his own place?
Mostly, yes.
He said sometimes he'd have to send a girl out for a job, but mostly the
clients wanted him to do the shooting himself.
I'll tell you something.
It all sounds a little bit hokey to me.
Hokey? Yeah, you know, a little strange. Too simple, nice to last more than a
couple of weeks.
Well, then I must have been very stupid.
Because I didn't think it sounded hokey for a lot longer than that.
Then the old trouble started up again.
Say, Danny, I'm not exactly naive, but just exactly what are you talking about?
Oh, excuse me.
Oh, yeah, Walt, my press representative.
No, not yet. I'm going out there today.
Oh, yeah, I think it's going to make a great show.
Hey, that's a good idea.
He'll like it.
No, I'll tell you what, I'll call... No, I'm fine. I'm all set. I'll call you
right away. Right.
Thanks a lot.
So I'm going to get moving on that assignment I talked to you about. So you
can stay here. I'll drive you home.
Are you coming back today?
Yeah, I'll be back later tonight.
I'm so comfortable here.
My room is so lonely.
Hey, I've got a great idea. How would you like to come along for the ride?
Oh, I'd just get in your way. No, not at all. No, I'm doing this series of
interviews and it's a long trip. Maybe you could help take notes or something
like that. The ride would do you good. What do you say? Come on.
If I could help.
Oh, my dress is all torn.
I have some things in here. Do you think I have time to change? Sure.
All right, then let's... Up to my bedroom.
I'll be right down.
Fine. I'll get ready.
Hi. Oh, sit down, will you, please?
Just for a second.
Something I've got to tell you.
Yes?
I guess I should have told you this, but, you know, I told you that we do
kind of unusual, offbeat subjects.
Well, this is... It's for an interview for TV, and it's kind of...
Well, what it is... What I mean... Well, we're going to a
nudist camp.
A nudist camp?
Yes, it's a documentary about nudism.
Well, I don't think I'll go.
But you've got to understand, this is all very straight and moral, nothing
fishy about this.
Oh, listen.
No, I'll wait here.
Or maybe you'd better take me home.
No, listen.
You've got the wrong attitude. I felt exactly the way you did at first. But
then I did some research on it, and you'd be amazed how natural it is. Why,
these people, some good, everyday, ordinary people, just like it, and
that's all there is to it.
Look, and haven't you been listening to anything I've been telling you?
That's just what I'm trying to get away from, bodies.
Well, that's all I am is just a body.
Now, you have the wrong attitude.
Oh, maybe I have.
May I tell you something? Look, I am not a nudist. It's my job. Why, do you know
something? I have never even been... What I mean is, this would be very good
for you.
I'm through with that kind of thing.
Now, wait a minute. What kind of thing?
Just a minute. You've got the whole wrong attitude about this, and I want to
show you something.
Now, it's not what you think.
Now, this is some footage of that nudist camp taken by my studio.
It's going to be used as background for the show.
I just want you to look at it. I've been studying it all week. I bet you have.
Now, just look at it.
I don't want to see it. Now, just sit down and relax. It won't hurt you. Oh,
all right.
Now, this is Sunny Rest Lodge. It's about a hundred miles from here.
It's unusual, I know, but the studio thinks it'll make an interesting
presentation for my show, and, well, frankly, I do too.
Now, you see, it looks like any other vacation spot, except the people don't
wear any clothes. Well,
they swim and they sunbathe and just relax entirely in the nude.
It's going to be my job to find out why.
What I noticed right away is that, well, everything seems so calm and peaceful.
Nobody's rushing around in a big hurry to go somewhere or do something.
Nobody's knocking themselves out to have fun either.
It seemed just like a group of happy, healthy people doing what they want to
do and enjoying a summer day.
Now, of course, they are naked.
It's a pretty strange and unusual manner of dress, or I should say undress, I
guess.
It doesn't seem to make any difference at all. No one's shy.
No one seems aware of any immodesty. And no matter what you may have thought
about nudism, you can see that there's certainly nothing lewd or obscene about
these people.
You know, there are many aboriginal tribes even today who don't wear
clothes, but I guess it's a different story because... It concerns a whole
society. Now, here these nudists are members of, well, they're members of our
clothes-conscious civilization, and they're breaking with a very strong and
very important custom.
There must be an important reason or idea or something behind this.
Well, of course, they practice their nudity in the privacy of their own
resorts. There's no rebellion or antagonism against society, no offense
to recognized customs, and, of course, these same people do wear clothes in
their daily lives.
lot of questions about nudists and nudism, and I will find out the answers,
but now the important thing is just to get an idea, you know, an overall
picture of what life is like here at a naturist resort.
I'll admit that suspicion is a normal first reaction, but there's really
nothing at all to be suspicious of. No one's gaping at anyone else. No one's
even aware of nakedness.
It's all quite matter-of-fact and casual.
I tell you, it's interesting, too, that whole families participate, even kids of
all ages.
For them, it's a playground with everything but the blue jeans and
sneakers. Same activities, the same fun.
I guess there's really a sense of greater freedom and certainly a great
love for the outdoors, especially for the sun.
Nudists enjoy themselves, and one thing is certain, nudists don't spend much
time contemplating their lack of clothing.
For the little ones, enjoyment is always a very simple matter anywhere.
A swing, a teeter-totter, even an imaginary game is all that's required.
And they can have just as much fun and get into just as much trouble with or
without clothes.
I noticed too that the resort is well equipped with games and amusements to
suit everyone's pleasure.
Of course, the pool gets most of the crowd, just like anywhere else at
vacation time.
And like anywhere else, there's more sitting around than swimming.
But sunbathing is obviously the most important activity.
Many nudists, in fact, prefer to call themselves sunbathers or naturists
rather than nudists.
Seems to make sense.
Well, for us, it was very important to see these people exactly as they are. We
didn't want them acting for the cameras.
Fortunately, the presence of a movie crew didn't affect them at all. Their
reaction to the camera is even better than we'd hoped for. Very calm, very
uninhibited. And that attitude seems to be the standard of all their behavior.
Just people, relaxing and enjoying themselves.
Very interesting.
You know, there are resorts like this, one in many sections of our country and
in many foreign lands.
The nudist movement, as it's called, is quite popular in Western Europe.
In some places, an entire island or even part of a public resort has been set
aside for sunbathers.
You know, you notice right away that there's a sense of friendliness and
camaraderie, a spirit of belonging.
And yet, now this is important, nudism is not some form of ritualistic and
secret activity.
And it's not restricted to a small group of initiates.
Membership is open to anyone and guests are always welcome.
I don't know, maybe nudity itself is the bond of friendship among these people.
And I've noticed another thing.
Nudism has attracted people from all walks of life.
Secretaries, doctors, writers, every category is represented.
At every social level.
Now most of these people grew up in the conventional surroundings of American
cities and towns. A few of them were born in foreign lands.
But it's pretty much like any other group in any other place in our country.
Now, some nudists are actively concerned with the growth and promotion of the
nudist movement. Most of them are just, well, they're interested in the
relaxation and pleasure they find in naturist outings and vacations.
Nudist organizations such as the American Sunbathing Association provide
the rules for operation and maintenance of the resorts. And as you can see,
standards are high.
Now, Danny, remember, these scenes are just as our camera crew found them.
The shots were not posed or set up.
So what you're seeing is really, exactly just what exists.
I think it gives us a very clear idea, an overall idea of nudist life.
And even so, I know that you've still got a lot of questions in your mind,
probably a great deal of doubt about these men and women and their
unconventional behavior.
I'll tell you the truth, I'm pretty curious about a lot of things, too.
I've got a long list of questions that I want to ask these people.
It should be very interesting to meet them and talk with them.
They'll probably think that I'm some kind of a nut or something.
So, that's Sonny Rest Lodge. I think we'll have a very exciting show. It
should be fun.
It might be my high school picnic.
Is that it?
That's not so terrible, is it?
I don't care what they do, but I don't have to see it.
Besides, I don't believe it.
Believe what?
That nudists are just like anybody else.
Look, Danny, do you understand something?
I'm not trying to get you to be a nudist.
All I want you to do is to come with me and see how decently and how differently
people can react to their bodies.
So I can tell you something about the way people react to bodies.
I'll tell you what Frank Turrell taught me about...
They're for sale.
And people buy them and photograph.
Girly pics.
Like the shots in your portfolio?
Yes.
Oh, it wasn't mixed old and college girl sweaters for long.
Soon it was, as Frankie called it, just a little bit of cheesecake.
Well, why'd you do it?
Well, I didn't like it. But Frankie said he could make some quick sales and that
he needed the money badly.
It wasn't so bad at first.
But it got worse and worse.
I didn't know what to do.
You know, you get trapped into something and you don't know how to get out.
Then it keeps going on further and further.
I guess I must have convinced myself that I just didn't make any difference.
I began to get used to it.
But I also began to feel awfully funny about Frankie.
And then one
day...
I knew I had to get out of there.
So I started looking for another job right away.
Modeling? No.
No, I needed time to think about it.
What about last night? How did that happen?
I don't know.
Seems like it happened to somebody else, not me.
out together.
He never even took me home when we worked late.
All that talk about shows and fancy night spots.
Well, it was just talk.
And I didn't care.
I mean, he always acted like such a nice guy.
I knew he exaggerated.
He was a phony, Danny.
Yes, he was.
But that didn't matter.
I just never imagined how, how low and rotten it would all turn out.
I guess I should have known.
I mean, the girls in the place.
All right, that's good. Now, give me something. Give me some kind of a pose.
Yeah, yeah. All right, wet your lips a little bit.
Yeah, that looks good. All right, hold it.
Good. Come on, give me another one.
Great, yeah, good. Now a real southern smile.
Yeah, yeah.
Good.
Give me, no, no, something else.
What? Now give me a real southern hospitality look.
Great, great, yeah.
That's good.
Hold it.
Now give me more. Give me more, honey.
you want to know about me?
You're from Iowa, huh?
Well, it's the same story, honey, no matter where you come from.
I come from Michigan, Detroit, Michigan.
You know, factories, cars, stuff like that.
You know what the girls do in Detroit?
The girls like I went to high school with?
They work in some factory and wait for Saturday night to go to some crummy gin
mill and slop beer.
Maybe they get married to some slob.
Maybe he was a big high school hero, but now he's just a slob.
And what happens?
They end up both working in some rotten factory and both slop up beer on
Saturday night if they can get a sitter.
Otherwise, he just runs around by himself and leaves his little wife in
some crummy flat with four or five screaming brats. Well, that's not for
me, honey.
I came to New York to live.
Money, good time, that's what I want.
So I figure it this way.
I've got looks.
I've got a body.
So let them look.
Let them take pictures.
They can take all the pictures they want just so long as they pay me that
drooling bums.
So I get the money and I do what I want.
And any other way of looking at it is pretty square, sweetie.
You think I want to be a great actress?
A star, a fashion model. Oh, that's baloney.
But I'm not disappointed.
I knew the score.
Money, honey.
Money, and don't you forget it.
So let them take their pictures, the filthy creeps. I could spit in their
faces. I hate them.
It's not right to hate your work like that.
Well, when you do something you like.
Well, I mean when you really want something and when you have an offer to
do something.
Well, then it's good.
You know what I mean?
It's your career.
It's your life.
And that means something.
It's more important than money.
You know what I mean?
Well, take me for instance.
Did you know I won a beauty contest down home?
Well, I was chosen the queen of the springtime plantation ball.
Imagine, I was voted the most beautiful girl in the whole county.
Because they wanted me to go to college and all that stuff.
But there's so much more to do.
I even take acting lessons.
And I'm going to do a movie soon.
Oh, this man said I have such basic instincts.
And then maybe I'll go to Hollywood after that.
Oh, I have so much to give to people and I want so much to give it.
And if these people enjoy looking at my pictures.
Oh, it's a beginning and that's all a girl needs is a start.
Anyway, I love posing for pictures and wearing all those fancy costumes and
things.
And besides.
Is some little old man out there as lonely or something?
Well, there's no harm if he likes to look at my pictures, is there?
And someday I'm going to be a big star. I just know I will.
And don't you worry, Danny.
It'll happen for you, too.
Because you're beautiful, too.
You don't need this for a start.
It's bad, Danny.
The longer you hang around, the worse it's going to get.
Oh, I used to tell myself stories.
I don't fool myself anymore.
I'm not going to get anything big or rich or crazy from this.
It's all a blind dead end.
If you really want to be a model, then you've got to get out and work at it.
There are lots of good models in this town.
They're not only beautiful, but they're capable.
And no one, but no one waits for you at the bus station.
So don't fool yourself.
Want to know why I got in this business?
Why I've stayed?
Well, I guess I didn't know anything else.
And then I was a pretty wild kid.
They wanted to pay me for standing around and posing.
It was okay for me.
And when they asked me to take my clothes off, it didn't make any
difference because the pay was good.
I could sleep late in the morning.
So now, now I've got to stay in this dirty game because I've got a child to
take care of.
Because I've got a little girl.
My old man went off and left me about four years ago.
I'm all she's got.
The only trouble is...
You keep getting older.
I tell you,
we're both a kind of clock back.
We're a lot different.
A whole lot different.
But it's too late for me.
But it's not too late for you, Danny.
If you really want a career and real money, then get out of here. Turn around
and keep walking.
Go ahead, get out. Do you hear me?
All of a sudden, it was the same as it always was.
Only ten times worse.
Well, he called me up the next day to apologize.
He told me to take a few days off and then come in. That'd be more my kind of
work.
And, of course, you went in.
No, I didn't.
No. He called to apologize again.
He told me how much money he'd invested in me, and he begged me to take some new
shots, and I didn't.
But then yesterday, well, I had my costumes there, but
I got to thinking.
Well, I knew he was never going to throw those pictures away, and I don't know
why, but I just wanted to get him out of that place.
Well, maybe you really want to be a model.
Maybe.
for a long time, thinking about how to face him and get out of there quickly.
It was very late in my life.
Danielle, listen, darling, let me explain. You don't understand.
It's not me. It's some friends of mine.
I needed the money. I was in the jam.
Danielle, listen to me. Listen, everything is going to be the way I
promised you.
Will you give me a chance to explain?
Listen to me, Danielle.
Listen,
Danielle, I got a lot of money invested in you. You can't walk out on me now.
You owe me something.
Don't go, Danielle.
When I found you.
Yeah, that's when you found me.
On the street.
And now... And now you want me to go to a nudist town.
Why don't you just cut out my tooth?
Or my eyes. You'll still have my body. Then take me anywhere you want me to go.
Why do you blame yourself?
It's not evil to be beautiful. Oh, isn't it?
Now, listen, Vanny. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do, but just
listen for just a few minutes.
I don't want to. I don't want to listen to you. I hate you. I hate all men.
Now, sit down.
Sit down.
Come on.
You've got some sort of a ridiculous idea that it's bad to be beautiful, that
there's evil.
Now, many people don't think the way you think they should think.
But then again, have you ever taken a really good, close look at yourself?
Excuse me.
Hello? Yeah, Walt.
No, no, just leaving.
Oh, that's fine. I should be there just about the same time they are.
Huh?
I'll ask that. It's a good one. Yeah. Oh, no, I know he'll be happy about it.
Sure. Okay, fella, see you then.
Look, I've got to get going on this thing. I can't wait any more. Now, look,
will you come along just for the ride?
No, no, I guess I'll wait here.
All right, forget it.
Maybe I'll come along for the ride, but I won't go inside.
Look, you don't even have to get on... I wouldn't go in under any conditions.
But you will come for the ride.
Yes. Okay, let's go.
Well, on my way at last, with two missions now, to do my show and try to
get Danny out of her bitter and disillusioned mood.
It's a nice drive out to Sunny Rest Lodge, and it's a beautiful spot for
anyone's country retreat.
Danny stayed in the car just as she said she would, and I'd begun to think about
nudists and nudist resorts, just what I was going to talk about with these
people. Do your friends and relatives know that you're a nudist? Sure,
everybody. I advertise it. I don't hide it.
If I was ashamed of it, I wouldn't be a nudist.
Very good. How are you getting it, Larry?
Good.
Joe, I've got a problem with lights. Sitting this way, I'm all shadow.
If you turn on this way, it's on this side. For me, I'm being held up this way
to talk to someone.
Yeah, you point at them as they talk, right? Yeah.
I'll have to favor it a little bit on my side because they have to understand
what my question is as well.
Wear clothes you just feel free and comfortable and you can relax.
And after you've looked once, you don't bother looking again. Whereas on a
beach, you could be staring at a girl all day long.
You're not glamorous when you're nude? It's a free, easy feeling. It is not a
glamorous feeling.
Usually, when people come down, they're here 10 or 15 minutes and their clothes
come off.
Nothing to be ashamed.
The human body is as pure as you can make it.
Yes, sir.
The camp impressed me right away, even more so than it had when I viewed it on
the projected screen.
And now that I was here, where was I going to begin?
The campers knew that I was coming out to do the show, and that didn't seem to
make any difference to them.
They just continued to go about doing whatever it was that they'd be doing,
whether I was here or not.
Now this, of course, is exactly what we want, but I must admit I was surprised.
While the crew was making the final tests and adjustments on the equipment,
I decided to have a look around and select my interviewees.
I thought the pretty young redhead would be very good as my first guest.
She certainly seemed very cheerful and relaxed.
I wondered, does she have some special reason for coming here? Does she feel
about things in a different way? How does she feel about being a member of
this naked community?
Why is she a nudist? What is it that leads a person to become a nudist?
Happy, healthy enjoyment of the sun. All the words and phrases I'd spoken to
Danny kept running through my mind.
Could it be that this lovely girl had her own unhappinesses?
Her misfortunes and troubles?
Like anyone else, just like anyone else.
But one thing for sure, these people aren't putting on any act. They are
enjoying themselves and they do have a pretty wholesome attitude about
themselves, about nudity.
I just wish Danny were here. If only she could understand, if only she could
be... Unashamed.
When the idea of an interview show with nudists first came up, I thought it was,
well, I thought it'd be pretty wild.
But now it seems like a very good idea, one of the best suggestions we've ever
had. There are thousands of questions I could ask.
It's natural for public interest.
Subject, nudism.
Reporters, nudists.
Their thoughts, their words.
How long have you been in this country?
Three years, about.
And were you a nudist in Germany?
Yes. Well, what's the difference between nudism in Europe and nudism here?
Well, I would say there's a big difference. Here you have to be a member
of a club. Over there you can practice nudism actually anywhere.
Did you practice in Germany?
Oh, yes.
At the beaches? At the beaches, at home, anywhere.
How about here? Do you feel at all self-conscious when you walk around in
the nude? Not at all.
How about your boyfriends? Do they know that you're a nudist?
Yes. What do they think about that?
Well, they had to get used to the idea in the beginning, but if you explain
it... Well, do they think there's something strange about nudism?
In the beginning, yes, but not anymore.
Did you ever invite any of your friends to a nudist park?
No, I didn't.
I think if you want to come, they have to decide themselves.
Well, how long have you been a nudist?
I've just started this year.
Well, how did you become interested originally?
Through reading nudist magazines over a period of years.
When you read a nudist magazine, did you read it because you wanted to find out
about nudism or because you wanted to see pictures of the girls?
Well, at first, I happened to see it on the newsstand as I was coming out of
service. I was curious as to what the magazine was about.
And I found out that they had very excellent articles.
What kind of articles do they have?
Well, how the sun can benefit the human body, for example.
Well, how can it?
Through rays of the sun and through other weather conditions, bodies can
build up gradual conditioning to all kinds of weather.
You mean that by being nude, you can be nude in the wintertime as well and be
conditioned to it? Yes, sir.
How about you? Do you practice nudism in the wintertime? No.
Just at the park. Have you been to other nudist camps?
No, this is my first one.
Well, do you come here every weekend, or do you spend a vacation here, or how
does it work?
Well, I gradually come on the spur of the moment for the day, when the mood
strikes me.
Have you met any girls at the nudist camp?
Well, I've met people at the nudist camp, yes.
I mean, people in general, both men and women, boys and girls.
Have you gone out with any of the girls?
No, I've just started.
I don't know them well enough to date.
How about your friends? Do you tell them you're a nudist?
No.
Why not?
Well, you know how society is. Some people may react to it okay, others may
not. Well, what do you think they might say?
Some might give me a shocked look.
Would that bother you?
It don't bother me, but out of consideration to them, I wouldn't want
to say anything that would offend them.
How about your relatives?
Did you tell your relatives?
No.
If you get married, would you want your wife to be a nudist?
I would.
How about the children?
Yes. She's got good life for them. Now, when you meet a girl at a nudist park,
do you discuss her with the other fellas? Do you say, Mary has a nice
figure or Joan has pretty legs?
Well... I've had experience in this nature.
There are times I was talking to a girl.
Let's say, for example, I collect coins.
She collects coins, we end up talking about coins.
What about a figure?
What is there to talk about?
Well, she has pretty legs or a nice back or long hair or she's overweight.
Why talk about the obvious, like hobbies and all? That's something that's more
inward. You can learn more about the person by talking about hobbies that you
may be interested in coming.
Well, couldn't you talk about those hobbies even if you had a bathing suit
on?
You can, but you might not get around to it.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, this is a most unusual and fascinating afternoon.
And there are many more people with whom we want to speak.
Nudists and their families giving us their views about this controversial
subject. telling us why they've chosen this unusual way of life.
Mother and her child enjoying a swim in the relaxation of the sun.
Why are they nudists?
Let's find out.
How did you feel the first time you came to a nudist park?
Well, it was all right on the way, but when we arrived here, just a mile or
so away, I would have liked to turn back.
Little boys said, I don't want to get bad.
But they were here about five minutes, and I didn't want to put their clothes
on again.
Do you have any interest in the nudist movement?
Do you think everybody should be a nudist?
No, everybody can please themselves, I think.
How long have you been in this country?
Two months.
What kind of work do you do?
I work in Japan. And that's your assignment here today, is it? Taking
pictures at the nudist camp? Yes.
Is this your first visit to a nudist camp?
Yes.
What do you think?
Oh, I come back to Japan. I talk to Japanese women. Women surprise.
Somebody help me? I think so.
You think they'll be surprised when you come back and tell them that you went to
the nudist camp? Yes.
Did you get any good pictures today? Yes, very good pictures.
Like Adam and Eve.
Like Adam and Eve? Yes.
Do you think there's anything to be ashamed about the nudist movement or
about the human body?
Yes, human body.
No, I don't think you understood.
Is there anything ashamed about the body? Anything wrong to take off the
clothes? Yes, take off the clothes.
I still don't think I'm getting through to you.
You speak Japanese.
All right, we'll do it in Japanese.
Yes. That means bashful, right? Yes.
Thank you very much.
Now, how long have you been a nudist?
This is the 13th year.
What made you decide to start?
Well, I picked up various nudist publications, read them.
Curiosity more than anything else. Let me ask you about those nudist
publications.
They look like organization newsletters, but they are sold on newsstands, are
they not?
Some of them.
And to whom are they sold, would you say?
Whoever... Whoever puts up the money for them, both nudists and non-nudists.
What percentage of non-nudists would you say? I mean, would more nudists buy them
or more non-nudists?
Well, I'm not in the publishing business, so I wouldn't be qualified to
say, but I'd say probably half and half. I see.
Why do nudists take so many pictures of each other?
Don't everybody take pictures of each other, whether they're nudists or not?
Let me ask you this. When you go to a nudist park and you meet a girl...
Do you consciously try to avoid looking at her body?
Or do you look at her eyes? Or do you look at her in the same way as you would
if you met a girl on a beach, for instance?
In a bathing suit?
I really don't know.
All over, I guess.
How about dates? Have you ever met a girl at a nudist park and gone out with
her?
Oh.
Yes, yes, I have.
I've gone out to dinner like that.
Have you ever brought a girl who was not a nudist to a nudist park?
No.
Have you asked one to accompany you?
I've had two or three of them come with me, but not that I've arranged
it. I've just arranged their transportation.
That's all.
Do you think there's anything shameful about the human body?
No. Well, you've been to many nudist camps for about 12 years.
Who's more shy about taking the clothes off the first time, a man or a woman,
would you think?
Oh, I think the women.
What made you decide to become a nudist?
Well, I just decided that I needed a place to come for relaxation and sun and
health. You know, where the atmosphere was easy.
I ask you this question.
Do your boyfriends know that you're a nudist?
Those that ask and those that are interested, I tell them.
What's their reaction?
Well, they don't... Frankly, if... If I knew a man that objected to something as
silly as that, I wouldn't go out with him.
You know, intelligent people don't object to these things.
Do you feel it might be possible for you to marry somebody who wasn't interested
in nudism? Would you give it up?
Well, sadly, it's no fetish. You know.
What do you do for a living?
I'm a writer.
Have you traveled to other nudist areas?
Just a few.
But I come to this one because it's convenient. It's near New York where I
live. Have you been to Europe?
Yes, I have.
What about nudism in Europe?
Well, I'll tell you.
There's a special place that everybody knows about called the Isle of Levant.
It's supposed to be very beautiful and romantic.
You haven't been there. But there's also this. In Europe, people don't pay so
much attention to nudity as a thing to be looked at.
Anyway, everybody changes clothes on the public beaches and, you know, you put
your bathing suit over your bra top and it's a little game to see that you can
get that out.
And, you know, you put little tents over you and you undress under the little
tent. And this doesn't bother anybody.
Have you written about nudism?
Oh, no, not as nudism, no.
What made you decide to become a nudist?
I'm a figure model by profession.
And I love to be in the sun.
And I can't afford to have bathing suit marks.
So the best thing to be is a nudist. Well, were you at all shy when you first
came to a nudist park?
For about the first ten minutes. And then after that, I would have felt
uncomfortable if I had had my clothes on.
How about boyfriends? Do your boyfriends know that you're a nudist?
Depends on how many boyfriends you want to count.
Do you think everyone should be a nudist?
Not necessarily.
Do your parents know that you're a nudist? Yes.
What do they think about it?
They approve.
I've tried to talk them into being nudists too, but they won't. Why not?
Well, it's inconvenient for them, first of all.
They live a good distance away from any camps.
Have you visited other camps and parks throughout the country? Yes, I have.
People pretty much the same all over?
Yes.
People are pretty much the same all over anyway.
What if you married and your husband had no interest in nudism? Would you give it
up? Yes.
Have you heard of any cases where one of the couple is interested in nudism and
continues his interest after marriage?
No, I'm not familiar with any.
Are you interested in the movement as such?
Not really, no.
I'm interested in it as an individual.
Do you practice other than at nudist parks?
Do I practice what?
Nudism.
No, I don't.
Do you speak in the nudes?
Yes. Do you walk around at home in the nude? Yes.
What if somebody comes to deliver a package?
Then I put a robe on.
That certainly figures.
Is this your first time at a nudist camp?
No. And how long have you been coming?
Four weeks.
And did you like it the first time you went?
Well, five minutes before I came, I didn't like it. Then I started to feel
at ease.
Well, what about swimming when you go to a party or something like that, a
swimming party?
I sort of wish that I were here because then I could feel freer with the way I
act.
Well, how do you act here?
I act freer. I don't have to worry about anything.
Well, do you have to worry about anything when you were bathing soon?
Well, I have to make sure my straps don't fall down and everything like
that.
Cut.
May I ask you how old are you? Eighty-four.
Well, you look in wonderful physical condition. Do you attribute it to
nudism? Well, I'm a hypnotist, and I attribute it to suggestion and nudism.
What do you mean by suggestion?
The power of mind over the body.
In other words, you tell yourself that you feel good, and you do, is that it?
That's right.
How long have you been a nudist?
I've been a nudist at the base since 1930.
That's 32 years.
That's a long time. Were you interested in nudism before that?
Yes.
Anybody in your family interested in nudism? No, nobody interested.
How do you feel about appearing in this movie?
I feel for Frank to do it.
Because if I was ashamed of being a nudist, I wouldn't be one.
I have no reason to be ashamed of my body.
I should be proud of it.
The Bible tells you that God created man in his own rightness. To be ashamed of
that rightness would be an insult to him.
How about curiosity?
How about people coming in to look at the nudists?
Well, that is a great deal of curiosity.
But people should not be curious.
The imagination is a great thing in this world.
And when you remove an imagination, then you've done away with all the bad parts
of the human body.
People who are accustomed to looking at it don't think nothing about it. And one
who would look at your face or your nose.
Well, I think we've learned a great deal today and, well, well, I'll be.
Yeah, I think we've all learned a great deal today about nudism and about
ourselves.
Well, Danny really surprised me. Really surprised me. There she was, not only in
the nudist park, but acting as if she'd been here all her life.
She'd already made a friend and was a fascinated observer of the resort.
In fact, she was even more delighted by our trip to Sunnyrest than I was, but of
course, I'm a professional observer.
For her, it was pure fun.
Most important of all, Danny was relaxed.
For the first time that day, she seemed comfortable and happy.
There was no longer a trace of the tension and anger that had gripped her
for so long.
Frankie Terrell and that tawdry part of the world were gone, and probably
forever.
It was a new place and a new time.
And a new Danielle.
It had been a long time since I'd seen anyone so happy and contented, so
pleased with the rediscovery of the outdoors, and even startled by that
fact, which for so long she'd refused to believe.
The fact that people could leave her alone to do what she wanted, to be what
she wanted.
The fact that people could accept her with kindness.
and without malice.
Well, maybe she would become a model. Maybe she'd go on to something
different. But whatever she did, it would be different from before.
The hate and the bitterness seemed gone.
As for me, well, did I say I had two missions on this trip?
Well, missions accomplished.
It was a good day.
Well, that's the show, boss. Hope you like it.
I'll tell you a very funny thing, though. I don't think I ever would have
had the courage to go into that nudist camp if I hadn't been trying to help
her.
I never did see her again.
I'd like to sometime.
I have a feeling that somehow she'll have a richer, better life after her
experiences. Well, you'll be happy to know that that Frank Terrell wound up in
jail.
So as I said, that's the show. But now, on with the new show.
to it through with all that stuff.
You and I are going on a picnic.
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