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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,941 --> 00:00:16,341 Law enforcement arrive expecting a home invasion, 2 00:00:16,501 --> 00:00:18,621 and they arrive to something totally different. 3 00:00:23,261 --> 00:00:25,581 The first thing I thought was, 4 00:00:25,741 --> 00:00:29,461 'Whoa. A triple homicide of a family.' 5 00:00:29,621 --> 00:00:32,621 This was something that I'd never seen before 6 00:00:44,021 --> 00:00:46,421 {\an8}There was a realisation that things... 7 00:00:46,581 --> 00:00:48,501 weren't as they were reported. 8 00:00:48,661 --> 00:00:51,301 We don't know what really happened here, but it's not this. 9 00:00:51,461 --> 00:00:53,661 This is wrong. 10 00:00:53,821 --> 00:00:56,781 I have not seen any cases 11 00:00:56,941 --> 00:00:59,461 where a crime scene... 12 00:00:59,621 --> 00:01:03,261 and a subsequent injury have been staged. 13 00:01:06,581 --> 00:01:09,861 There was nothing about his story I was buying from the very beginning 14 00:01:13,301 --> 00:01:15,341 There was no sign of forced entry. 15 00:01:15,501 --> 00:01:18,341 There was no sign that anybody had been in or out of that home. 16 00:01:19,421 --> 00:01:22,381 Everyone who knew Alex knew him 17 00:01:22,541 --> 00:01:24,661 as somebody who would never do something like this. 18 00:01:24,821 --> 00:01:27,261 This was somebody that was an Eagle Scout, 19 00:01:27,421 --> 00:01:29,221 came from a good family. 20 00:01:30,581 --> 00:01:33,701 You could see it on his face, moments where he... 21 00:01:33,861 --> 00:01:36,021 had the realisation that he didn't think of that. 22 00:01:45,541 --> 00:01:48,181 This is probably one of the most unique cases 23 00:01:48,341 --> 00:01:50,501 I'll ever have or do in my career. 24 00:01:50,661 --> 00:01:53,661 It will always stay, and you'll always have thoughts about it. 25 00:01:54,981 --> 00:01:57,261 I just wonder why someone would do something like this. 26 00:02:16,021 --> 00:02:17,981 I love Cedar Rapids. 27 00:02:18,141 --> 00:02:20,541 I always describe it as a big little town. 28 00:02:21,621 --> 00:02:24,581 We have more than 137,000 people that live here. 29 00:02:24,741 --> 00:02:26,981 But if you grow up here, anybody that grows up here knows 30 00:02:27,141 --> 00:02:30,101 you're likely to run into someone you know while you're out and about. 31 00:02:31,501 --> 00:02:33,941 It's just such a friendly atmosphere. 32 00:02:34,101 --> 00:02:36,261 Everybody always has each other's back. 33 00:02:38,981 --> 00:02:40,821 You're walking down the sidewalk, you pass someone, 34 00:02:40,981 --> 00:02:43,101 they're probably gonna tell you hello, wave at you, 35 00:02:43,261 --> 00:02:46,421 might even ask you how you're doing, so people are friendly here. 36 00:02:46,581 --> 00:02:49,061 There's been two major natural disasters 37 00:02:49,221 --> 00:02:50,981 in my lifetime living here: 38 00:02:51,141 --> 00:02:54,981 the flood of 2008, and then we had a derecho in 2020. 39 00:02:55,141 --> 00:02:59,621 Both of those situations caused extensive damage, 40 00:02:59,781 --> 00:03:01,821 and the community always comes together. 41 00:03:04,941 --> 00:03:06,701 It feels safe here. 42 00:03:06,861 --> 00:03:10,621 This is somewhere I am comfortable raising my son and my family. 43 00:03:10,781 --> 00:03:15,261 I don't think that there's anywhere you can fully escape crime, but... 44 00:03:16,181 --> 00:03:20,261 ...compared to some of the larger cities in the country, yeah, 45 00:03:20,421 --> 00:03:24,341 I think it's a safe, family-oriented place to live. 46 00:03:31,621 --> 00:03:33,581 Jan, Melissa, Sabrina and Alex 47 00:03:33,741 --> 00:03:35,781 were a pretty tight-knit family. 48 00:03:35,941 --> 00:03:38,341 They tended to keep to themselves. 49 00:03:38,501 --> 00:03:41,421 But, you know, from the outside, they seemed like a totally normal, 50 00:03:41,581 --> 00:03:43,421 you know, all-American family. 51 00:03:44,781 --> 00:03:46,581 The family, in 2011, 52 00:03:46,741 --> 00:03:50,141 decided to move from Oregon to Cedar Rapids, Iowa, 53 00:03:50,301 --> 00:03:53,501 to this very flowery, beautiful neighbourhood. 54 00:03:54,781 --> 00:03:57,701 You had Jan the father, you had Melissa the mother, 55 00:03:57,861 --> 00:04:00,461 Sabrina the younger sister, and then you had Alex. 56 00:04:01,701 --> 00:04:05,101 Jan was retired. He was in IT. Melissa was retired. 57 00:04:05,261 --> 00:04:07,221 She was also previously in IT 58 00:04:07,381 --> 00:04:10,621 but had now taken to gardening and photographing. 59 00:04:10,781 --> 00:04:13,781 Sabrina was a senior that was recently graduating, 60 00:04:13,941 --> 00:04:16,821 and Alex had just came back from the University of Iowa, 61 00:04:16,981 --> 00:04:18,941 where he was basically flunking out. 62 00:04:19,101 --> 00:04:20,821 They kept close to themself. 63 00:04:20,981 --> 00:04:23,861 Neighbours said that they were nice, they were polite, 64 00:04:24,021 --> 00:04:26,101 but they weren't overtalkative. 65 00:04:26,261 --> 00:04:28,701 They weren't over... let's go out and hang out. 66 00:04:28,861 --> 00:04:32,061 They mostly just kept to themself as a family, to the four. 67 00:04:32,221 --> 00:04:35,141 The pictures that we were shown, and the way it was described, 68 00:04:35,301 --> 00:04:38,261 there were pictures of the family together throughout the home, 69 00:04:38,421 --> 00:04:41,661 seemingly a loving family that would play games together 70 00:04:41,821 --> 00:04:44,421 and spend time together, take trips together. 71 00:04:45,501 --> 00:04:48,901 Sabrina's friends described her as outgoing, 72 00:04:49,061 --> 00:04:52,701 great in school and just an all-around good person. 73 00:04:52,861 --> 00:04:55,901 It sounded like they were a tight family unit 74 00:04:56,061 --> 00:04:57,781 who would take vacations, 75 00:04:57,941 --> 00:05:00,661 spend all of this time together, and something happened. 76 00:05:00,821 --> 00:05:03,821 Something happened with Alexander's grades in school 77 00:05:03,981 --> 00:05:07,141 showing that that shift happened, at least academically, for him. 78 00:05:09,701 --> 00:05:11,781 Alex was kind of like a lone wolf. 79 00:05:11,941 --> 00:05:14,221 He kind of disagreed with things about his views 80 00:05:14,381 --> 00:05:16,621 that his sister had about politics. 81 00:05:16,781 --> 00:05:21,021 He was getting in arguments with his father because of grades, 82 00:05:21,181 --> 00:05:23,701 not having a job, not doing anything. 83 00:05:23,861 --> 00:05:27,581 So I don't think that this was as tight of a family 84 00:05:27,741 --> 00:05:29,621 as Alex wanted people to think. 85 00:05:29,781 --> 00:05:32,621 I think there definitely was some cracks in the foundation. 86 00:05:32,781 --> 00:05:35,781 Something had changed from when Alex was in high school 87 00:05:35,941 --> 00:05:38,501 because we've heard things that they seem to be a good family, 88 00:05:38,661 --> 00:05:40,541 to when he came back from college 89 00:05:40,701 --> 00:05:42,701 that he wasn't the same type of person. 90 00:06:16,821 --> 00:06:20,861 When the Dispatcher received the 911 call, right away, 91 00:06:21,021 --> 00:06:24,621 she's getting this mixed information that doesn't make sense to her. 92 00:06:24,781 --> 00:06:26,781 She's getting this call that there is this burglary 93 00:06:26,941 --> 00:06:31,261 that happened in the bright early morning hours of day, of summertime, 94 00:06:31,421 --> 00:06:34,381 here in Iowa, one of the hottest days of the year. 95 00:06:34,541 --> 00:06:37,941 Alex is giving these details that's not adding up. 96 00:06:38,101 --> 00:06:40,221 And you can even hear in the Dispatcher's voice, 97 00:06:40,381 --> 00:06:43,981 like, she's asking, 'OK, so tell me what happened. Who's there?' 98 00:06:44,141 --> 00:06:48,301 And Alex is kind of responding with a question to her question. 99 00:07:06,981 --> 00:07:08,781 I think when he got the call, 100 00:07:08,941 --> 00:07:11,461 he was expecting officers to arrive, and there won't be many questions. 101 00:07:11,621 --> 00:07:13,381 The Dispatcher is asking him, 102 00:07:13,541 --> 00:07:15,541 'Can you give me a description of this person? 103 00:07:15,701 --> 00:07:17,741 Can you tell me who's there? Who is not there?' 104 00:07:17,901 --> 00:07:20,341 And so officers, when they arrive at the scene, 105 00:07:20,501 --> 00:07:22,341 they don't know what to expect. 106 00:08:11,141 --> 00:08:13,381 There's a rehearsed quality to it, 107 00:08:13,541 --> 00:08:16,701 like he's got some lines he wants to say. 108 00:08:17,701 --> 00:08:20,861 When they begin to question him, he seems a little taken aback, 109 00:08:21,021 --> 00:08:24,181 but he doesn't say, 'Just get someone here!' 110 00:08:24,341 --> 00:08:26,981 He doesn't get angry, doesn't... 111 00:08:27,141 --> 00:08:29,261 say, 'I need help. I need help now.' 112 00:08:29,421 --> 00:08:31,781 He calmly delivers his address. 113 00:08:31,941 --> 00:08:33,901 These are all red flags for... 114 00:08:34,061 --> 00:08:36,381 not necessarily a call made by a guilty party, 115 00:08:36,541 --> 00:08:39,341 but a call that needs deeper investigation. 116 00:09:25,821 --> 00:09:27,701 You know, a quiet neighbourhood like this, 117 00:09:27,861 --> 00:09:30,141 there's rarely even a cop car driving through. 118 00:09:30,301 --> 00:09:32,421 And when this crime happened, 119 00:09:32,581 --> 00:09:36,541 there was a giant fleet of authorities 120 00:09:36,701 --> 00:09:39,781 descending upon this very safe neighbourhood. 121 00:09:39,941 --> 00:09:42,141 And suddenly, you know, neighbours, 122 00:09:42,301 --> 00:09:45,421 everyone in the surrounding area was seeing this giant response. 123 00:09:45,581 --> 00:09:48,661 So it set off tons of alarm bells. 124 00:09:48,821 --> 00:09:51,901 When this happened, we first heard about it 125 00:09:52,061 --> 00:09:54,941 on the police scanners here in the newsroom, 126 00:09:55,101 --> 00:09:57,621 and it sounded like a home invasion. 127 00:09:57,781 --> 00:10:00,221 And so that's what the initial impression was 128 00:10:00,381 --> 00:10:03,741 as we sent our Reporter out to check out this home invasion, 129 00:10:03,901 --> 00:10:05,661 even as police first arrived. 130 00:10:05,821 --> 00:10:08,301 When Alexander Jackson first called 911, 131 00:10:08,461 --> 00:10:11,181 he reported that a man broke into his home, 132 00:10:11,341 --> 00:10:14,381 a masked man broke into his home, shot his father, 133 00:10:14,541 --> 00:10:16,821 that he had been shot in the foot, as well. 134 00:10:16,981 --> 00:10:21,101 And so that's what law enforcement thought they were arriving to. 135 00:10:58,781 --> 00:11:00,581 {\an8}Yeah. 136 00:11:01,741 --> 00:11:03,821 {\an8}Yeah. You're good there? 137 00:11:11,141 --> 00:11:14,581 I think any first responder, no matter what their training, 138 00:11:14,741 --> 00:11:17,621 would say, 'This is wrong. 139 00:11:18,581 --> 00:11:22,021 We don't know what really happened here, but it's not this.' 140 00:11:32,421 --> 00:11:34,581 We have to give Alex's story... 141 00:11:34,741 --> 00:11:37,261 We have to treat it right away: let's give it some credibility. 142 00:11:37,421 --> 00:11:40,141 Like, what if he is telling the truth? 143 00:11:40,301 --> 00:11:42,501 What if this is a complete... 144 00:11:43,581 --> 00:11:47,741 ...unlikely series of events that he actually is telling the truth? 145 00:11:48,581 --> 00:11:51,581 You're gonna go upstairs? 146 00:11:51,741 --> 00:11:53,621 We have to bring canines 147 00:11:53,781 --> 00:11:55,941 to search to see: can we find human scent? 148 00:11:56,101 --> 00:11:59,981 Can we find a different odour to attach? How far do we extend this? 149 00:12:00,141 --> 00:12:02,221 We went the whole neighbourhood. 150 00:12:02,381 --> 00:12:04,421 And the reason why we're doing this is we're trying to see: 151 00:12:04,581 --> 00:12:06,661 did anybody get a glimpse of this other person? 152 00:12:06,821 --> 00:12:10,621 Did somebody come or go? Cos we have all these angles at this house. 153 00:12:10,781 --> 00:12:12,941 Maybe we'll catch him. 154 00:12:15,741 --> 00:12:18,141 We were thinking, when we went up there, 155 00:12:18,301 --> 00:12:22,421 that there's no way that someone comes into this neighbourhood, 156 00:12:22,581 --> 00:12:25,181 at this time of day, unseen, 157 00:12:25,341 --> 00:12:28,021 there was no evidence that anything had been moved, 158 00:12:28,181 --> 00:12:32,061 or disturbed, or stolen, or damaged. 159 00:12:32,221 --> 00:12:34,221 There was no evidence of a struggle. 160 00:12:37,221 --> 00:12:39,781 Law enforcement were searching the woods around the area. 161 00:12:39,941 --> 00:12:41,821 There was a construction crew in the area. 162 00:12:41,981 --> 00:12:43,661 They were checking all of the cameras: 163 00:12:43,821 --> 00:12:47,061 many of these homes had surveillance video as well as the Jacksons' home. 164 00:12:47,221 --> 00:12:49,661 They didn't see any sign of forced entry, 165 00:12:49,821 --> 00:12:52,381 any sign of anybody else that would have been in the area 166 00:12:52,541 --> 00:12:55,301 going to or from that home on any of these cameras. 167 00:13:21,381 --> 00:13:23,421 You don't happen to have anything in there? 168 00:13:35,061 --> 00:13:38,141 I remember it being hot that day. 169 00:13:38,301 --> 00:13:42,621 We went there and were met at the door by the investigators 170 00:13:42,781 --> 00:13:44,821 in the crime scene unit that were processing the scene 171 00:13:44,981 --> 00:13:47,381 and essentially walked through the crime scene. 172 00:13:48,341 --> 00:13:51,381 The first thing I thought was, 'Whoa. 173 00:13:51,541 --> 00:13:54,541 A triple homicide of a family. 174 00:13:56,621 --> 00:13:58,781 It shocked my conscience. 175 00:13:58,941 --> 00:14:02,421 I knew immediately that this was a very personal... 176 00:14:03,781 --> 00:14:05,981 ...murder... murders. 177 00:14:06,141 --> 00:14:08,021 That... 178 00:14:08,181 --> 00:14:11,701 this was something that I'd never seen before. 179 00:14:17,461 --> 00:14:19,421 When we walk in, 180 00:14:19,581 --> 00:14:22,501 we find Melissa, on the ground 181 00:14:22,661 --> 00:14:25,261 against the wall, gunshot to the face. 182 00:14:32,901 --> 00:14:34,901 {\an8}I stepped next to it. 183 00:14:37,221 --> 00:14:40,061 And then we make our way down the stairs and then face-first, 184 00:14:40,221 --> 00:14:44,581 we see Jan, pile of blood, multiple gunshots. 185 00:14:44,741 --> 00:14:47,061 So we realise that he got shot more than once. 186 00:14:47,221 --> 00:14:50,141 We go behind the couch: there's a bunch of shell casings, 187 00:14:50,301 --> 00:14:53,181 indicating that someone was standing there sniping out... 188 00:14:53,341 --> 00:14:55,021 Jan as he was coming down. 189 00:14:55,181 --> 00:14:57,021 And then we walk to the back of the bedroom. 190 00:14:57,181 --> 00:15:00,061 Down the hall to the right, there's Alex's room. 191 00:15:00,221 --> 00:15:03,261 And then next door is Sabrina's room, 192 00:15:03,421 --> 00:15:06,101 and then she's in her covers, blanket pulled up. 193 00:15:08,101 --> 00:15:11,421 And we see that she's got a close shot to her face. 194 00:15:12,901 --> 00:15:15,181 Obviously it takes your breath away when you see... 195 00:15:15,341 --> 00:15:18,941 three individuals executed, as we would describe it, 196 00:15:19,101 --> 00:15:21,101 in this manner. 197 00:15:21,261 --> 00:15:23,501 And it's like a very personal... 198 00:15:24,581 --> 00:15:26,701 ...execution because... 199 00:15:26,861 --> 00:15:29,101 Sabrina was done very closely, 200 00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:32,701 because we found the shell casing into her covers. 201 00:15:32,861 --> 00:15:35,421 And we also saw that she had been shot more than once. 202 00:15:35,581 --> 00:15:38,861 And so what we are trying to piece when we get there is: 203 00:15:39,021 --> 00:15:40,941 who was the first person to get shot? 204 00:15:41,101 --> 00:15:45,101 Like, how did three people get shot and someone else didn't wake up? 205 00:15:46,861 --> 00:15:49,501 The moment officers arrived on scene, 206 00:15:49,661 --> 00:15:52,261 we knew that he was a suspect... 207 00:15:52,421 --> 00:15:55,141 based off of that call to 911 208 00:16:05,021 --> 00:16:07,101 Even in walking through, 209 00:16:07,261 --> 00:16:10,261 after knowing what we were going to be walking into, 210 00:16:10,421 --> 00:16:13,461 it was violent, it was personal. 211 00:16:13,621 --> 00:16:15,621 It was... 212 00:16:16,581 --> 00:16:18,901 It was... There were so many thoughts. 213 00:16:19,061 --> 00:16:20,941 There was not a doubt in my mind 214 00:16:21,101 --> 00:16:24,301 that the person who committed these offences 215 00:16:24,461 --> 00:16:26,621 was the sole living family member. 216 00:17:07,101 --> 00:17:09,141 I'm sorry. 217 00:17:20,101 --> 00:17:22,381 With all homicide investigations, 218 00:17:22,541 --> 00:17:24,621 you have to do what we call a victimology. 219 00:17:24,781 --> 00:17:27,941 A victimology is a study of each one of your victims 220 00:17:28,101 --> 00:17:29,941 to determine what was going on in their life, 221 00:17:30,101 --> 00:17:32,141 any problem areas or whatever, 222 00:17:32,301 --> 00:17:35,221 to determine what made them a target for this particular crime. 223 00:17:36,061 --> 00:17:38,501 This would also include the surviving member. 224 00:17:39,821 --> 00:17:42,221 What exactly was going on in his life, 225 00:17:42,381 --> 00:17:45,221 particularly if we start to believe that he may be involved: 226 00:17:45,381 --> 00:17:47,181 well, what is the reason? 227 00:17:47,341 --> 00:17:49,141 What is the motive for him... 228 00:17:49,301 --> 00:17:51,421 to have killed these other three members of his family? 229 00:17:51,581 --> 00:17:54,541 So initially, we want to sit and talk with him and get him to, 'OK. 230 00:17:54,701 --> 00:17:58,021 What exactly happened? What do you remember? What was going on before?' 231 00:18:32,861 --> 00:18:36,141 The holes in his story were evident right from the start. 232 00:18:36,301 --> 00:18:38,021 First of all, it didn't make any sense. 233 00:18:38,181 --> 00:18:40,861 Secondly, the way he told it didn't match up 234 00:18:41,021 --> 00:18:43,101 to things that they could see right away at the scene 235 00:18:43,261 --> 00:18:45,301 without even much investigation. 236 00:18:45,461 --> 00:18:48,941 So they really have to learn more about what's going on in his life. 237 00:18:49,101 --> 00:18:51,661 How is he feeling? Was he angry? 238 00:18:51,821 --> 00:18:56,221 What's happening? They have to explore more about his background. 239 00:19:20,221 --> 00:19:22,221 {\an8}Even though he's confronted with 240 00:19:22,381 --> 00:19:25,701 all these inconsistencies, he still maintains what happened. 241 00:19:25,861 --> 00:19:28,941 How does he admit that he killed three members of his family? 242 00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:31,101 Or he's just hoping upon hope... 243 00:19:31,261 --> 00:19:34,301 that the police maybe have got something wrong. 244 00:19:34,461 --> 00:19:38,941 It was so minimal what he said to 911 operators. 245 00:19:39,101 --> 00:19:42,181 It was... a little more detailed 246 00:19:42,341 --> 00:19:45,701 what he initially said to investigators during his interview. 247 00:19:45,861 --> 00:19:49,581 But as they probed him for more information, 248 00:19:49,741 --> 00:19:52,061 it... I mean, and you could see it on his face, 249 00:19:52,221 --> 00:19:56,541 moments where he had realisation that he didn't think of that, 250 00:19:56,701 --> 00:19:59,061 or that didn't make that much sense. 251 00:20:28,621 --> 00:20:32,781 One thing he said was, 'It was my own gun. 252 00:20:32,941 --> 00:20:37,061 The person entered and used our own gun and then left it.' 253 00:20:37,221 --> 00:20:39,101 That just didn't make sense. 254 00:20:39,261 --> 00:20:41,621 Like, someone breaks into your house... 255 00:20:42,701 --> 00:20:46,141 ...and does these brutal executions... 256 00:20:46,301 --> 00:20:49,261 to your family, leave you there... 257 00:20:49,421 --> 00:20:51,381 so that you could potentially identify him, 258 00:20:51,541 --> 00:20:54,941 and then leave the murder weapon... makes no sense at all. 259 00:20:55,101 --> 00:20:58,621 So, like, the fact that he gave us a story that made no sense, 260 00:20:58,781 --> 00:21:02,861 that he had this superficial injury that made no sense, 261 00:21:03,021 --> 00:21:06,381 and that he tried to present his family as something made no sense. 262 00:21:06,541 --> 00:21:09,221 So immediately, I would say... 263 00:21:09,381 --> 00:21:12,901 within probably less than hours, he was our suspect. 264 00:21:27,261 --> 00:21:29,501 Alex has been removed from the scene. 265 00:21:29,661 --> 00:21:32,861 Now they can process the house, which is where they clearly see 266 00:21:33,021 --> 00:21:36,701 that his story has fallen apart, has holes and contradictions. 267 00:21:36,861 --> 00:21:39,661 It's looking more and more like he's involved. 268 00:21:39,821 --> 00:21:42,541 And as they find out more about the weapon, 269 00:21:42,701 --> 00:21:45,021 it seems to have a very unique way 270 00:21:45,181 --> 00:21:47,421 of being handled and loaded. 271 00:21:48,261 --> 00:21:52,541 It's not a typical gun that you can just load and shoot. 272 00:21:53,461 --> 00:21:57,021 Our officers actually had trouble figuring out how to load the gun, 273 00:21:57,181 --> 00:21:59,581 because the gun had to be loaded in a particular way. 274 00:21:59,741 --> 00:22:01,701 It had to be loaded on the butt of the gun, 275 00:22:01,861 --> 00:22:04,541 which is kind of where you put the gun against your shoulder. 276 00:22:04,701 --> 00:22:06,701 And then it had a rod that you had to pull out, 277 00:22:06,861 --> 00:22:08,661 and you had to push the rod back in, 278 00:22:08,821 --> 00:22:12,701 then you had to crank the chamber to get the bullet in there. 279 00:22:12,861 --> 00:22:16,661 And so first off, it didn't make sense that some random stranger... 280 00:22:16,821 --> 00:22:19,861 walked into a house, found a gun, a gun that was unique 281 00:22:20,021 --> 00:22:22,021 where our officers didn't know how to load it. 282 00:22:22,181 --> 00:22:24,941 That stranger knew how to load it, had time to load it, 283 00:22:25,101 --> 00:22:26,981 and then was able to... 284 00:22:27,141 --> 00:22:29,141 take out three people. 285 00:22:29,301 --> 00:22:32,981 And then the biggest guy, the person that weighed the most, 286 00:22:33,141 --> 00:22:36,381 the tallest, who could identify him, 287 00:22:36,541 --> 00:22:39,581 wrestled with him, shot him in the foot, and said... 288 00:22:39,741 --> 00:22:41,541 'We're good.' 289 00:22:41,701 --> 00:22:44,141 So right there, that didn't make any sense to us. 290 00:22:44,301 --> 00:22:47,701 And so what we wanted to figure out was trying to figure out... 291 00:22:47,861 --> 00:22:49,421 what was the order? 292 00:22:52,621 --> 00:22:54,701 I firmly believe that the sister 293 00:22:54,861 --> 00:22:57,181 was the first person whom was shot, 294 00:22:57,341 --> 00:23:00,181 and that the sound of that .22 rifle 295 00:23:00,341 --> 00:23:03,781 are what brought the father downstairs from his office. 296 00:23:05,981 --> 00:23:09,501 His office was located just at the top of that stairway, 297 00:23:09,661 --> 00:23:12,461 and her bedroom was down in the basement in the furthest corner. 298 00:23:12,621 --> 00:23:16,061 I believe that the sound from the two shots... 299 00:23:16,221 --> 00:23:19,421 that happened in that back bedroom are what brought him downstairs. 300 00:23:19,581 --> 00:23:22,861 And then the mother was the final victim to have been killed. 301 00:23:29,301 --> 00:23:32,141 {\an8}What the forensic experts found, 302 00:23:32,301 --> 00:23:34,701 the bloodstain examiners found was that... 303 00:23:34,861 --> 00:23:38,821 there was evidence of blood spatter that had been caused by a firearm 304 00:23:38,981 --> 00:23:41,501 on the floor of one of the bedrooms. 305 00:23:42,501 --> 00:23:47,021 And there were also bloody footprints leaving the bedroom, 306 00:23:47,181 --> 00:23:51,701 but no footprints of that type entering the bedroom. 307 00:23:51,861 --> 00:23:54,061 This undermines Alex's account, 308 00:23:54,221 --> 00:23:56,221 because their view is that... 309 00:23:57,061 --> 00:23:59,261 ...he was shot in the foot... 310 00:23:59,421 --> 00:24:03,301 in that bedroom, and then walked from that bedroom to the basement. 311 00:24:05,621 --> 00:24:09,661 In addition to that, the fingerprint examination of the weapon 312 00:24:09,821 --> 00:24:13,781 suggested that it had been held in such a way 313 00:24:13,941 --> 00:24:17,221 that could enable him to shoot himself in the foot. 314 00:24:17,381 --> 00:24:21,501 So the hypothesis there is that... 315 00:24:21,661 --> 00:24:26,101 he shot himself in the foot after he had shot the three victims 316 00:24:26,261 --> 00:24:29,141 to make it look as if it had been caused by an intruder. 317 00:24:31,221 --> 00:24:33,341 Police were out searching for... 318 00:24:33,501 --> 00:24:36,661 whoever this intruder was, the so-called intruder. 319 00:24:36,821 --> 00:24:40,101 They went through all the surveillance video around the home 320 00:24:40,261 --> 00:24:42,901 from neighbours as well as the Jacksons' home. 321 00:24:43,061 --> 00:24:44,781 There was no sign of forced entry. 322 00:24:44,941 --> 00:24:47,821 There was no sign that anybody had been in or out of that home. 323 00:26:02,101 --> 00:26:04,781 We did get a copy of the criminal complaint, 324 00:26:04,941 --> 00:26:10,061 and in that criminal complaint, it was listed that Alexander Jackson... 325 00:26:10,221 --> 00:26:12,421 was being charged with killing his whole family, 326 00:26:12,581 --> 00:26:16,181 and that at the time he had told police that his father told him 327 00:26:16,341 --> 00:26:18,581 he needed to get a job or move out. 328 00:26:18,741 --> 00:26:21,461 So when we're talking about the why, there's a lot of question: 329 00:26:21,621 --> 00:26:23,541 what would motivate someone to do this? 330 00:26:23,701 --> 00:26:25,461 That was kind of the floating theory, 331 00:26:25,621 --> 00:26:29,101 was that his dad had told him that he needed to move out of the house. 332 00:26:29,261 --> 00:26:31,101 Maybe that could have been a reason. 333 00:26:31,261 --> 00:26:33,861 This tight-knit community, they're under the impression that... 334 00:26:34,021 --> 00:26:36,501 some crazy, scary intruder is the one who's come in 335 00:26:36,661 --> 00:26:38,981 and committed this violent crime. 336 00:26:39,141 --> 00:26:43,101 But then when police release the news that it's actually... 337 00:26:43,261 --> 00:26:46,581 Alex who's been arrested and charged for doing this to his own family, 338 00:26:46,741 --> 00:26:49,461 the horror that's come over that community, 339 00:26:49,621 --> 00:26:52,581 I mean, they could not imagine this young man 340 00:26:52,741 --> 00:26:54,621 ever doing something like that. 341 00:27:22,301 --> 00:27:25,981 The fact that Alex is a fabricator who... 342 00:27:26,141 --> 00:27:28,821 has already created an elaborate story 343 00:27:28,981 --> 00:27:33,781 and has pre-planned the 911 call, and all of that, 344 00:27:33,941 --> 00:27:36,901 means that he's gonna have a psychological investment... 345 00:27:37,061 --> 00:27:38,901 in his version. 346 00:27:39,061 --> 00:27:41,101 And even though they might charge him 347 00:27:41,261 --> 00:27:43,141 with three counts of first degree murder, 348 00:27:43,301 --> 00:27:45,541 he's not gonna... he's not gonna admit into that. 349 00:27:45,701 --> 00:27:48,101 He's going to maintain his story 350 00:27:48,261 --> 00:27:51,221 until such time as they can prove their case. 351 00:27:52,941 --> 00:27:55,781 He obviously knows his story has holes. 352 00:27:55,941 --> 00:27:58,941 But I think he's done enough research to realise 353 00:27:59,101 --> 00:28:01,741 that he's just got to stick to it and make them prove it. 354 00:28:03,221 --> 00:28:05,381 He's a young man who wants to control things. 355 00:28:05,541 --> 00:28:08,821 And he believes he still can do this. 356 00:28:09,941 --> 00:28:14,581 We have 45 days from the date of arrest. 357 00:28:14,741 --> 00:28:16,621 So he gets arrested, sees a judge. 358 00:28:16,781 --> 00:28:22,101 Our clock starts: 45 days to file those official charges. 359 00:28:22,261 --> 00:28:25,141 And then he's arraigned, which is when he... 360 00:28:25,301 --> 00:28:27,421 gives his official plea of not guilty. 361 00:28:27,581 --> 00:28:31,661 And then court dates are scheduled from there, and a trial date is set. 362 00:28:32,501 --> 00:28:34,821 The case is building constantly. 363 00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:37,021 Obviously, the first 48 hours, we... 364 00:28:37,181 --> 00:28:40,181 we all knew that we had our suspect, Alex Jackson. 365 00:28:40,341 --> 00:28:43,781 And to completely verify, without a doubt... 366 00:28:43,941 --> 00:28:46,741 I think probably within a few weeks, we were confident, 367 00:28:46,901 --> 00:28:49,501 by getting footage back from the house, 368 00:28:49,661 --> 00:28:52,261 as well as two neighbours that were close by 369 00:28:52,421 --> 00:28:55,501 and having investigators comb through hours and hours 370 00:28:55,661 --> 00:28:59,621 of surveillance footage and never, ever finding anybody else. 371 00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:05,581 And also when we had our K-9 Officer verify there was no other tracks, 372 00:29:05,741 --> 00:29:08,781 or other scents, or anything else that would indicate 373 00:29:08,941 --> 00:29:11,261 a second person leaving the area. 374 00:29:11,421 --> 00:29:13,141 We knew that we had a strong case, 375 00:29:13,301 --> 00:29:16,061 so the rest of the things we were doing was just adding... 376 00:29:16,221 --> 00:29:19,181 the extra toppings that we needed to just seal the case. 377 00:29:20,061 --> 00:29:23,781 Throughout the next several weeks, if not a couple of months, 378 00:29:23,941 --> 00:29:27,621 additional information trickled in that required review, 379 00:29:27,781 --> 00:29:30,821 and required adding to our paperwork 380 00:29:30,981 --> 00:29:34,301 to make sure that the charging documents that we filed 381 00:29:34,461 --> 00:29:37,301 had all of the information included in them. 382 00:29:37,461 --> 00:29:39,461 After his initial appearance, 383 00:29:39,621 --> 00:29:42,021 there is still investigatory work that happens. 384 00:29:43,141 --> 00:29:46,781 It's a fact that defence attorneys don't win cases 385 00:29:46,941 --> 00:29:49,621 because they found some type of new forensic evidence. 386 00:29:50,461 --> 00:29:52,341 They win cases because they can go back 387 00:29:52,501 --> 00:29:54,501 and show that the police did something wrong, 388 00:29:54,661 --> 00:29:57,021 either in the collection or how it was analysed. 389 00:29:57,181 --> 00:29:59,581 This is why it's absolutely critical 390 00:29:59,741 --> 00:30:03,261 that when you're involved in a crime scene examination, 391 00:30:03,421 --> 00:30:05,741 you have to do everything exactly by the book. 392 00:30:05,901 --> 00:30:07,821 You cannot take shortcuts, 393 00:30:07,981 --> 00:30:10,301 or you'll see it in court. 394 00:30:13,021 --> 00:30:16,261 When his trial began, everyone was invested. 395 00:30:16,421 --> 00:30:18,581 Everybody wanted to know what happened. 396 00:30:18,741 --> 00:30:20,461 Was he really capable of doing this 397 00:30:20,621 --> 00:30:23,061 or was there maybe something else at play here? 398 00:30:23,221 --> 00:30:24,941 Everyone wanted answers. 399 00:30:32,741 --> 00:30:36,021 The whole community, and everyone that knew Alex and this family, 400 00:30:36,181 --> 00:30:37,981 were searching for reasons 401 00:30:38,141 --> 00:30:39,941 why he could possibly do something like this, 402 00:30:40,101 --> 00:30:43,141 and the fact that there were no signs indicating that... 403 00:30:43,301 --> 00:30:46,621 he was struggling, that he had some issues, 404 00:30:46,781 --> 00:30:49,741 or anything along those lines, made it all the more terrifying. 405 00:30:49,901 --> 00:30:51,901 How would they be able to pinpoint that 406 00:30:52,061 --> 00:30:54,061 in somebody else, maybe, down the line? 407 00:30:54,221 --> 00:30:57,421 There was truly no indication that anything was going on with him. 408 00:30:58,701 --> 00:31:01,381 I can't remember another case prior to this 409 00:31:01,541 --> 00:31:04,861 where we had somebody charged with killing their whole family. 410 00:31:05,021 --> 00:31:07,781 And so it was completely shocking. It was very sad. 411 00:31:07,941 --> 00:31:09,941 And we heard from friends of Sabrina, 412 00:31:10,101 --> 00:31:12,661 we heard as much as we could about the family, 413 00:31:12,821 --> 00:31:14,781 who was described as a loving family. 414 00:31:14,941 --> 00:31:17,021 And they had a lot of people that cared about them. 415 00:31:17,181 --> 00:31:20,981 I was not at the school when they had a vigil for Sabrina. 416 00:31:21,141 --> 00:31:22,981 We had a different crew out there that night, 417 00:31:23,141 --> 00:31:25,301 but I still remember watching our coverage, 418 00:31:25,461 --> 00:31:28,021 and you could just feel sadness, you know? 419 00:31:28,181 --> 00:31:31,941 She was full of life. She was young, and she was taken suddenly. 420 00:31:33,061 --> 00:31:35,581 The Jacksons' extended family, at this point, 421 00:31:35,741 --> 00:31:39,501 they've lost key members of their family in such a horrific way. 422 00:31:39,661 --> 00:31:41,941 And then to find out that Alex himself 423 00:31:42,101 --> 00:31:44,021 is the one that could have caused all this, 424 00:31:44,181 --> 00:31:47,181 and also, they also may be losing him and their family, 425 00:31:47,341 --> 00:31:50,021 was just an absolute tragedy. 426 00:31:50,941 --> 00:31:53,301 And they could not understand why 427 00:31:53,461 --> 00:31:55,741 he would ever be driven to something like this. 428 00:32:04,941 --> 00:32:08,701 Any time you have somebody kill their whole family, 429 00:32:08,861 --> 00:32:11,221 obviously that's something that's going to be covered in the news. 430 00:32:11,381 --> 00:32:15,181 Alexander Jackson, as people knew him prior to this happening, 431 00:32:15,341 --> 00:32:17,621 was... he was successful in high school. 432 00:32:17,781 --> 00:32:20,341 He was a musician. He was great in band. 433 00:32:20,501 --> 00:32:23,381 And then he's being charged with murdering his whole family. 434 00:32:23,541 --> 00:32:27,661 I think the shock of that shift really fascinated people. 435 00:32:27,821 --> 00:32:30,341 And I think they were wondering why. Why would this happen? 436 00:32:30,501 --> 00:32:34,181 I think that on the top of the fact of his story, you know, 437 00:32:34,341 --> 00:32:37,341 of him sticking to his story, saying, 'It wasn't me. 438 00:32:37,501 --> 00:32:39,541 Somebody broke into my house and did this.' 439 00:32:39,701 --> 00:32:42,061 I mean, that story was wild enough. 440 00:32:42,221 --> 00:32:44,141 I think people were really interested in it. 441 00:32:44,301 --> 00:32:47,461 They were interested in the why and in what really happened here. 442 00:32:48,661 --> 00:32:51,621 He was the sole heir and was potentially, 443 00:32:51,781 --> 00:32:54,661 if he was found not guilty, could get a very large amount of money... 444 00:32:54,821 --> 00:32:56,901 and estate from this. 445 00:32:57,061 --> 00:32:59,581 And so I think that got people's attention. 446 00:32:59,741 --> 00:33:01,861 And the fact that it was just here in Iowa 447 00:33:02,021 --> 00:33:05,621 that we had somebody kill three people within matters of seconds. 448 00:33:05,781 --> 00:33:07,781 I mean, we had national attention. 449 00:33:18,701 --> 00:33:23,541 Preparing for any trial requires a very in-depth look 450 00:33:23,701 --> 00:33:25,981 at all of the evidence that we've gotten. 451 00:33:26,141 --> 00:33:29,301 When we review evidence in preparation for trial, 452 00:33:29,461 --> 00:33:33,621 we are asking ourselves what pieces of the puzzle do we need 453 00:33:33,781 --> 00:33:37,621 to create a full and completed picture? 454 00:33:37,781 --> 00:33:42,021 Whether that is through witness testimony or photographs, 455 00:33:42,181 --> 00:33:45,261 or scans of the home that would be, you know, 456 00:33:45,421 --> 00:33:48,541 digital renditions of what the crime scene looked like, 457 00:33:48,701 --> 00:33:52,541 and just really making sure that we have... 458 00:33:52,701 --> 00:33:56,061 a piece of evidence for every piece... 459 00:33:56,221 --> 00:33:58,781 of the puzzle that we need to put together. 460 00:34:02,661 --> 00:34:04,661 There had been a year-and-a-half gap between... 461 00:34:04,821 --> 00:34:07,221 when this happened and when it came to trial. 462 00:34:07,381 --> 00:34:10,261 We knew that he was sticking with his story of not guilty. 463 00:34:10,421 --> 00:34:13,781 So I expected the defence was going to try to say 464 00:34:13,941 --> 00:34:16,981 that this wasn't really Alexander Jackson that did this. 465 00:34:17,821 --> 00:34:21,141 What does stick out to me, and this was very unique about this case 466 00:34:21,301 --> 00:34:22,981 versus others that I've covered: 467 00:34:23,141 --> 00:34:27,341 usually with a defendant, their family will be there, 468 00:34:27,501 --> 00:34:29,901 their parents will be there, their siblings will be there, 469 00:34:30,061 --> 00:34:32,261 their friends are there to support them. 470 00:34:33,101 --> 00:34:35,501 And Alexander Jackson killed his whole family. 471 00:34:35,661 --> 00:34:38,501 So he did not have his mom in the courtroom, 472 00:34:38,661 --> 00:34:41,181 his dad in the courtroom or his sister there. 473 00:34:41,341 --> 00:34:43,621 All right. We are on the record. 474 00:34:43,781 --> 00:34:47,421 We have Counsel and Mr Jackson present. 475 00:34:47,581 --> 00:34:49,581 Alexander Jackson... 476 00:34:50,421 --> 00:34:53,541 ...wants you to think that he had the perfect family life. 477 00:34:53,701 --> 00:34:56,141 On the Eagle Scout badge, there are two stars. 478 00:34:57,261 --> 00:35:00,501 Those stars stand for truth... and knowledge. 479 00:35:00,661 --> 00:35:02,901 The evidence is gonna show you what the truth is... 480 00:35:03,061 --> 00:35:05,061 about this family dynamics. 481 00:35:07,381 --> 00:35:09,421 And it's not what... 482 00:35:09,581 --> 00:35:12,261 Mr Jackson claimed it to be. 483 00:35:12,421 --> 00:35:14,541 The onset of our presentation 484 00:35:14,701 --> 00:35:16,501 started with the 911 call. 485 00:35:16,661 --> 00:35:19,901 It was literally unbelievable. 486 00:35:20,061 --> 00:35:22,501 And so that's how we intended to present it. 487 00:35:22,661 --> 00:35:26,381 The initial call, the initial arrival of officers, 488 00:35:26,541 --> 00:35:28,701 the moments where... 489 00:35:28,861 --> 00:35:31,341 there was a realisation that things... 490 00:35:31,501 --> 00:35:33,581 weren't as they were reported. 491 00:35:33,741 --> 00:35:36,421 The interview of the defendant where... 492 00:35:37,301 --> 00:35:40,461 ...Investigators Denlinger and Lacina were just... 493 00:35:40,621 --> 00:35:43,541 poking holes in everything... 494 00:35:43,701 --> 00:35:46,501 that he was trying to get them to believe. 495 00:35:47,661 --> 00:35:52,341 A lot of cases are very based on what there is. 496 00:35:52,501 --> 00:35:55,781 This case was different in that... 497 00:35:55,941 --> 00:35:59,061 the absence of evidence in this case 498 00:35:59,221 --> 00:36:03,461 was just as important as the physical evidence that was found. 499 00:36:03,621 --> 00:36:06,781 Based on your training and experience, Investigator Bosenberg, 500 00:36:06,941 --> 00:36:09,541 did you form an opinion as to whether or not 501 00:36:09,701 --> 00:36:12,581 there were any signs of forced entry to this backdoor? 502 00:36:13,421 --> 00:36:17,581 I did not see any of those signs on this door. 503 00:36:18,941 --> 00:36:21,461 The back door was not the only... 504 00:36:21,621 --> 00:36:24,421 point of entry or exit from this home, correct? 505 00:36:24,581 --> 00:36:26,741 Correct. Investigator Bosenberg. 506 00:36:26,901 --> 00:36:28,781 Anywhere in the house, 507 00:36:28,941 --> 00:36:32,181 was there any sign, or anything that indicated to you, 508 00:36:32,341 --> 00:36:35,861 that... entry into this home was forced in any way? 509 00:36:37,181 --> 00:36:38,981 No. 510 00:36:39,141 --> 00:36:41,621 Not having proof that there was someone else 511 00:36:41,781 --> 00:36:45,101 is evidence that Alex did it: his fingerprints were on the gun, 512 00:36:45,261 --> 00:36:47,461 he talked about this was actually his gun. 513 00:36:47,621 --> 00:36:49,501 He had cleaned the gun the night before 514 00:36:49,661 --> 00:36:51,421 to make sure it would work properly. 515 00:36:51,581 --> 00:36:56,261 Talking about making sure that the gun only held so many rounds, 516 00:36:56,421 --> 00:36:59,341 and that the amount of rounds that he used showed 517 00:36:59,501 --> 00:37:03,141 that he had to reload the gun, which also shows that he... 518 00:37:03,301 --> 00:37:06,421 deliberately, specifically, and with, 519 00:37:06,581 --> 00:37:09,501 you know, malice did this, that this wasn't an accident. 520 00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:12,781 And ladies and gentlemen, there's a whole lot missing... 521 00:37:12,941 --> 00:37:14,941 from those cameras. 522 00:37:15,101 --> 00:37:17,421 And there's a whole lot missing from those cameras 523 00:37:17,581 --> 00:37:19,461 because there was not an intruder. 524 00:37:19,621 --> 00:37:23,541 Investigator Denlinger told you that he watched six hours... 525 00:37:23,701 --> 00:37:27,381 of footage from the Nest camera from the Yang house, 526 00:37:27,541 --> 00:37:29,541 and there was nothing. 527 00:37:29,701 --> 00:37:33,021 I have seen numerous cases... 528 00:37:33,181 --> 00:37:36,781 where evidence has been hidden. 529 00:37:36,941 --> 00:37:41,501 But I have not seen, I don't think any cases, 530 00:37:41,661 --> 00:37:43,701 where a crime scene... 531 00:37:43,861 --> 00:37:47,181 and a subsequent injury have been staged. 532 00:37:47,341 --> 00:37:51,461 The walking back and forth, the intentional leaving... 533 00:37:51,621 --> 00:37:55,581 the firearm in the location where he... 534 00:37:55,741 --> 00:37:57,501 reported the struggle occurred, 535 00:37:57,661 --> 00:38:00,021 and that that firearm was knocked out of his hands: 536 00:38:00,181 --> 00:38:02,421 I've never seen staging like that. 537 00:38:02,581 --> 00:38:05,781 Discussion about staging and trying to come up with this story 538 00:38:05,941 --> 00:38:08,621 that it wasn't him, and that he got hurt too, 539 00:38:08,781 --> 00:38:10,661 definitely helped show this was 540 00:38:10,821 --> 00:38:12,701 something he had been thinking about. 541 00:38:12,861 --> 00:38:16,021 He... murdered his family... 542 00:38:16,181 --> 00:38:19,301 and then went to his bedroom, sat on his bed, 543 00:38:19,461 --> 00:38:21,541 shot himself in the foot... 544 00:38:22,581 --> 00:38:24,821 ...drug the gun out with him, 545 00:38:24,981 --> 00:38:28,581 staged it next to his father, and then called 911. 546 00:38:28,741 --> 00:38:31,061 When you look at your jury instructions, 547 00:38:31,221 --> 00:38:33,861 and you look at the elements of the crimes 548 00:38:34,021 --> 00:38:37,301 that the state is required to prove, motive isn't on there. 549 00:38:37,461 --> 00:38:39,781 We can lodge some guesses. 550 00:38:39,941 --> 00:38:43,861 He talked about being the kid home from summer vacation, 551 00:38:44,021 --> 00:38:46,341 and his dad wanting him to get a job, 552 00:38:46,501 --> 00:38:48,941 and him getting ready to be kicked out of the house. 553 00:38:49,101 --> 00:38:52,341 And if he doesn't have a job, then... he's out, 554 00:38:52,501 --> 00:38:55,581 with $30 in his bank account: is the money the motive? 555 00:38:55,741 --> 00:38:57,861 Is the fact that he's going to inherit houses, 556 00:38:58,021 --> 00:38:59,981 and assets, and all of that: is that motive? 557 00:39:00,141 --> 00:39:03,021 I don't know, but guess what. I don't have to prove that motive. 558 00:39:03,181 --> 00:39:05,701 Some acts... 559 00:39:05,861 --> 00:39:08,581 are so cruel and irrational... 560 00:39:08,741 --> 00:39:11,101 that regardless of what the motive is, 561 00:39:11,261 --> 00:39:14,221 it's never going to be enough. 562 00:39:14,381 --> 00:39:18,101 It's never going to make someone understand why, 563 00:39:18,261 --> 00:39:22,021 because rational people don't think irrationally, by their very nature. 564 00:39:22,181 --> 00:39:23,981 We just focused on... 565 00:39:24,141 --> 00:39:27,421 regardless of the reason, these are the things that happened. 566 00:39:27,581 --> 00:39:31,021 And no reason is ever going to be good enough 567 00:39:31,181 --> 00:39:35,581 for him to have committed the atrocities he committed that day. 568 00:39:40,021 --> 00:39:43,541 Members of the jury, has the jury reached a verdict in this matter? 569 00:39:43,701 --> 00:39:45,221 We have. 570 00:39:48,101 --> 00:39:50,661 As to each of the three counts, 571 00:39:50,821 --> 00:39:53,901 we, the jury, find the defendant, Alexander Jackson, 572 00:39:54,061 --> 00:39:56,941 guilty of the offence of murder in the first degree. 573 00:39:57,101 --> 00:39:59,861 And is that the verdict of the jury? 574 00:40:00,021 --> 00:40:02,221 It is, your honour. 575 00:40:02,381 --> 00:40:05,301 Alexander Jackson will spend the rest of his life in prison. 576 00:40:05,461 --> 00:40:07,461 That's the automatic sentence 577 00:40:07,621 --> 00:40:10,501 for first degree murder in Iowa with no chance at parole. 578 00:40:10,661 --> 00:40:12,741 But you can never bring the Jacksons back, 579 00:40:12,901 --> 00:40:14,821 so I don't know how much closure 580 00:40:14,981 --> 00:40:16,981 you can truly have with a loss like that. 581 00:40:18,101 --> 00:40:20,301 After he was found guilty, 582 00:40:20,461 --> 00:40:23,181 and I was speaking with the family in kind of the lobby area 583 00:40:23,341 --> 00:40:25,381 of the Linn County Courthouse, 584 00:40:25,541 --> 00:40:27,661 they had pre-written this statement. 585 00:40:27,821 --> 00:40:31,021 It says, 'We want to thank the prosecution team and the jury 586 00:40:31,181 --> 00:40:33,061 for giving our family justice. 587 00:40:33,221 --> 00:40:35,181 Alex wanted the world to think he was a victim 588 00:40:35,341 --> 00:40:38,781 of this horrendous crime, but we know that is not the case. 589 00:40:38,941 --> 00:40:41,341 And now everyone knows the truth of what happened that day. 590 00:40:41,501 --> 00:40:43,981 Alex murdered three members of our family, 591 00:40:44,141 --> 00:40:46,021 and that pain will never go away. 592 00:40:46,181 --> 00:40:49,381 Jan, Melissa and Sabrina were loved: they will live in our hearts, 593 00:40:49,541 --> 00:40:51,781 and the hearts of those who knew them, forever. 594 00:40:51,941 --> 00:40:54,021 The Jackson Family.' 595 00:40:54,181 --> 00:40:56,901 This is probably one of the most unique cases 596 00:40:57,061 --> 00:41:00,141 I'll ever have or do in my career, so yeah, 597 00:41:00,301 --> 00:41:03,101 it will always stay, and you'll always have thoughts about it. 598 00:41:03,261 --> 00:41:05,981 I just wonder why someone would do something like this. 599 00:41:06,141 --> 00:41:08,341 I don't think you can forget it: if you... 600 00:41:08,501 --> 00:41:10,701 were a neighbour, or if you knew the family. 601 00:41:10,861 --> 00:41:13,381 If you covered the story, if you were here when it happened, 602 00:41:13,541 --> 00:41:16,341 and you heard it on the news, I think this is something that... 603 00:41:16,501 --> 00:41:18,741 people remember the story. 604 00:41:18,901 --> 00:41:21,381 It's definitely one that I think I'll always remember. 605 00:41:23,541 --> 00:41:26,421 For the family, this was something that was going to affect them 606 00:41:26,581 --> 00:41:28,341 for the rest of their lives. 607 00:41:28,501 --> 00:41:31,461 It was something that they're going to have to cope with moving forward. 608 00:41:31,621 --> 00:41:33,621 While the rest of the community, or other people, 609 00:41:33,781 --> 00:41:37,061 can tune in and out of the trial and walk away from it, 610 00:41:37,221 --> 00:41:39,901 that's something that they'll never be able to walk away from. 611 00:41:40,741 --> 00:41:42,741 This is... 612 00:41:42,901 --> 00:41:44,861 the family that... 613 00:41:45,021 --> 00:41:47,021 that I grew up in. 614 00:41:47,901 --> 00:41:50,501 I grew up with an older brother and... 615 00:41:50,661 --> 00:41:54,861 parents who were married, in a less affluent house, 616 00:41:55,021 --> 00:41:57,021 but in a house that was filled with love. 617 00:41:57,181 --> 00:42:01,461 And so this is one of those cases that... 618 00:42:02,541 --> 00:42:04,901 ...is oddly relatable... 619 00:42:05,061 --> 00:42:06,941 to everyone, 620 00:42:07,101 --> 00:42:08,901 while at the same time... 621 00:42:09,061 --> 00:42:10,901 being incomprehensible. 622 00:42:11,061 --> 00:42:13,181 Because how does... 623 00:42:14,901 --> 00:42:17,901 ...that picture-perfect... 624 00:42:18,741 --> 00:42:20,581 ...loving family... 625 00:42:21,421 --> 00:42:24,381 get destroyed... in this manner? 626 00:42:24,541 --> 00:42:26,621 It's... 627 00:42:26,781 --> 00:42:28,781 easy to relate... 628 00:42:30,021 --> 00:42:32,021 ...to the... 629 00:42:33,061 --> 00:42:35,581 ...pre-murder family... 630 00:42:35,741 --> 00:42:38,741 and impossible to reconcile that with... 631 00:42:39,981 --> 00:42:42,941 ...the post-murder family. 632 00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:17,981 {\an8}Subtitles by Sky Access Services 50839

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