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{\an8}Ryan's family was devastated
knowing that he was missing.
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They started to get really worried.
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{\an8}They would have been
frantic about where could he be?
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There had been no communication
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and now they're really afraid
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{\an8}that maybe something terrible
has happened and he could be dead.
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We've never had this.
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{\an8}We're not seeing them
in any of our sonars.
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{\an8}We're not seeing them in any of
our dredges, or anything like that.
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It's... it's unusual.
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{\an8}Officials in Green Lake County
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are looking for a missing kayaker.
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{\an8}The Sherif's office said
it would give more information
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as the investigation continues.
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{\an8}On the outside, all the public
knows is that he's still missing,
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while, behind the scenes,
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{\an8}the police, they're going
in a completely different direction.
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{\an8}Sometimes
you are confronted with evidence
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{\an8}that requires you
to kinda really step back
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{\an8}and you immediately then
have to think
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{\an8}about what the other
possible explanations are.
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{\an8}An accident
is one of the top four themes
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used to stage a homicide.
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{\an8}Now, suddenly,
it's becoming very clear.
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Everything is starting to add up.
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He had a goal.
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He had a mission
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and that supplied the energy needed
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to put this plan into place.
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{\an8}I think that the pain he caused
is pretty irreversible,
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{\an8}the grief and horror
that he put upon his entire family.
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They had no clue.
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They were hit with a bombshell
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that... God almighty!
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{\an8}...the weight of the world is
on your shoulders, looking at that
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{\an8}and seeing
what they must be going through.
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Ryan Borgwardt and his wife Emily
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lived in Watertown, Wisconsin,
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{\an8}which was really just
a kind of classic all-American town.
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They lived there with their kids.
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{\an8}Everything about their life seemed
like a kind of all-American family.
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Ryan and his wife Emily
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{\an8}had known each other
since they were quite young.
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They had been married for 22 years
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{\an8}and, you know, seemingly, from
the outside, had a very close bond.
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{\an8}Their family was particularly
outdoorsy - especially Ryan.
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{\an8}He was definitely someone
who was always out
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doing some type of outdoor activity.
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{\an8}Hiking, kayaking, canoeing -
he was doing it all.
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{\an8}I've lived in Wisconsin
since I was a young teenager
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and got into the dive business
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back in 1996.
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{\an8}It's a very beautiful area,
beautiful lake.
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{\an8}The lake is just crystal-clean,
you know.
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Clear as can be, down there.
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{\an8}That's what Green Lake
is known for...
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{\an8}and you have people coming for
whether it's yachting, fishing...
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It's tourism in terms of that lake.
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{\an8}What is not known
about the Green Lake area
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is that Green Lake itself
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{\an8}is the second-deepest lake
in the entire state itself...
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{\an8}...and you quickly realise
it's a very friendly society,
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very tight-knit communities,
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{\an8}people who typically care
about each other.
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{\an8}One night, Ryan tells Emily
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{\an8}he's going to go kayaking
that night.
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{\an8}He wants to catch
the Northern Lights,
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so it will be late at night
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{\an8}and, you know,
she says she won't wait up for him
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{\an8}and just goes to bed thinking,
you know,
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{\an8}"This is just a normal thing
that Ryan does on any given day."
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So then, that morning, Emily woke up
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and Ryan still hadn't come home,
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so she got pretty worried.
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She's calling him, texting him...
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{\an8}Nothing, so that's when she decides
to finally report him missing.
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This was very unlike Ryan.
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He did all kinds of activities
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and, you know, it wasn't like him
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{\an8}to not let them know what was
going on, to not come back home,
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{\an8}so the idea of him being missing
like this, you know,
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{\an8}they were definitely thinking
the worst.
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{\an8}Green Lake,
where Ryan had been kayaking in,
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{\an8}was an especially lush
and beautiful area,
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{\an8}a place that was really cherished
and admired by the whole community.
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Law enforcement will get involved
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looking for the missing person
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as soon as he's reported missing,
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{\an8}investigating, talking to people
that know the person.
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Green Lake County Sheriff's Office
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{\an8}reported around 8:30 this morning
on social media
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{\an8}that it was searching for a kayaker
on Big Green Lake.
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{\an8}There's not an assumption
of foul play here.
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{\an8}The first priority
is to find this person
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and, ideally, find them live,
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{\an8}so you want to find them
as quickly as possible.
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{\an8}Typically,
with missing person cases,
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the first hours are crucial
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when finding someone,
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{\an8}especially in ensuring
that they're going to be alive.
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Typically, the mark is 72 hours,
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so after 72 hours have passed,
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{\an8}chances of finding someone alive
are significantly lower.
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{\an8}His wife and kids,
they would've been frantic
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{\an8}about where could he be?
There had been no communication.
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They couldn't get him on the phone
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and now they're really afraid
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{\an8}that maybe
something terrible has happened
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and he could be dead.
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{\an8}The first thing
that confronts investigators
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{\an8}is, essentially,
the size of the incident scene.
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A huge lake surrounded by trees,
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{\an8}a vast area to search
that would take a very long time.
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{\an8}Normally,
when we get out to these events,
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we're actually looking at things:
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we're looking at blood
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{\an8}and we're looking at forced entry,
etc, so we have a scene to look at.
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{\an8}In this particular case,
there was no scene to look at.
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{\an8}If he's in a kayak, he might
have launched it from a jetty,
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{\an8}so if there's a jetty,
they might go there first
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to see if there's anything there...
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{\an8}...where he might have parked
his vehicle...
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{\an8}...but eventually, in this case,
they were confronted by the fact
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{\an8}that they would have to search
the whole lake.
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{\an8}The Sheriff's office
is continuing to search the water
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{\an8}for a missing kayaker
on Big Green Lake.
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Initially, the investigators
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{\an8}are going to be looking around
the edges of the lake where he was,
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to see if maybe he's washed up
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{\an8}or he's found
some kind of shelter somewhere
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{\an8}and just doesn't have a way
to let anybody know.
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{\an8}They're going to see
if they can find any witnesses.
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They want to know from the wife,
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{\an8}does he frequently go off by himself
in a kayak?
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Is he a... experienced kayaker?
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{\an8}What were his plans?
Was he going to camp out?
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Because kayaks turn over.
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{\an8}They end up finding his kayak
and his phone
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and some of his belongings
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{\an8}and, you know, even though the
police did track down these things,
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um, there's no body,
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{\an8}so the idea that Ryan
had drowned and died in this lake
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{\an8}was just a really terrifying thought
for the community.
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{\an8}The fact
that they find these items
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{\an8}moves it
from just a missing person's inquiry
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{\an8}into,
"Was this an accidental drowning,
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{\an8}or was there some external forces
involved?"
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{\an8}Maybe the kayak overturned,
he hit his head
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and can't remember who he is.
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{\an8}So there'll be all kinds
of scenarios that'll play out
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{\an8}and then try to follow up
with an investigation.
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Once the news came out
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{\an8}within the community
that Ryan was missing,
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everyone was on high alert,
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because the community was so close.
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{\an8}Everyone wanted to pitch in
and help looking for him.
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{\an8}The last location
that his phone had been in,
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{\an8}because his phone
had tracking software on it,
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was right in the middle of the lake
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{\an8}and that was the last-known location
he was seen in,
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{\an8}so that was particularly frightening
to his family.
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{\an8}The police make a decision
to bring in specialists
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{\an8}who have the right equipment
to do this.
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{\an8}Most police agencies,
they have limited resources.
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{\an8}I mean, they can't send
the entire department out to look.
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{\an8}They have to rely on volunteer
groups that are out there
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that do this on a routine basis.
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{\an8}If he has gone over
and he's drowned
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and the body's down there,
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{\an8}they need to be able to handle
the body in a particular way,
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{\an8}cos bodies in water,
when they're brought to the surface
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can start to change,
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{\an8}and so they absolutely need
specialists
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in underwater search and rescue.
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{\an8}So the police decide
to bring in Bruce's Legacy,
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{\an8}which is a nonprofit organisation
that, you know,
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{\an8}specialises
in helping locate missing people.
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{\an8}My brother Bruce
was on the Fire Department
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as a firefighter EMT volunteer
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and, in August of 1995,
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they got a pay job for a drowning
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and it was a missing canoer.
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So when they got there,
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{\an8}they were gonna work upstream
in the creek.
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They're just walking up
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{\an8}and feeling around the trees
and stumps with their feet
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to see if they could find the guy.
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{\an8}What happened was,
they got deep enough,
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{\an8}so now they lost their footing,
all three of them,
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{\an8}and the water hydraulics
sucked them upstream.
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The current would release one.
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{\an8}The firefighters grabbed them
and started CPR on them
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and... yeah, that was my brother.
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{\an8}It was the next morning
that the family
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had to make that decision
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to pull him off life support.
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{\an8}They tested him
and he was brain dead.
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{\an8}That same year,
we started Bruce's Legacy.
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My goal when I started this is,
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{\an8}I wanted to be able to offer
this service to the families
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without charging them.
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{\an8}Bruce's Legacy have a lot of
resources. They do a good job,
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so you're figuring, at some stage,
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Ryan Borgwardt is going to be found.
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When this case came up,
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I got a call on a Monday morning
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{\an8}from Sheriff Podoll
from Green Lake County.
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{\an8}He had told me
of the situation they had.
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He had indicated that the wife
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{\an8}had "360 app" data - you know,
where he was out on the lake.
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{\an8}It appeared that he was
in the middle of the lake.
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That's where this tracking device
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would suggest he was.
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My first actions, honestly, were,
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"This will be an easy search."
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I was here the year before
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{\an8}and did a successful search
within a day
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{\an8}and I know the lake bottom is...
it's a pretty clean lake.
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{\an8}My first initial thought
was that, you know,
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{\an8}"This will be a one-day search.
I'll be in and out of there."
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{\an8}There is evidence
that perhaps he had an accident,
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he drowned...
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{\an8}or maybe there's other unexplained
or suspicious circumstances.
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{\an8}Well, the process
of when we first arrive
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{\an8}is to set up
a four-point search area.
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{\an8}We have a four-foot-long
torpedo-type sonar
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{\an8}and that needs to be towed
approximately 15ft off the bottom.
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Requires the sonar data,
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brings it up into a computer monitor
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that I sit in front of
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{\an8}and it shows me everything
that's on the bottom.
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{\an8}I have autopilot in my boat,
so once I line up,
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I can drive a straight line.
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{\an8}I don't know,
some people call "mowing the grass".
235
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{\an8}We just keep working our way
across that search area.
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Once those 72 hours had passed,
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Ryan's family was pretty devastated,
238
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{\an8}just knowing
that he was still missing.
239
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{\an8}They had very little clues
as to where he could be.
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{\an8}There was truly nothing that
indicated where he could be found.
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They started to get really worried.
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Your training
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{\an8}and just experiencing
these sort of cases tell you
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that the longer this goes on,
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{\an8}the... ..the outcome
is not gonna be a good one.
246
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{\an8}There's a lot of pressure and when
we come in on these, you know,
247
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{\an8}the families don't even know
about us, and things like that,
248
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{\an8}and they read everything
on the news and stuff about us.
249
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{\an8}If they Google us,
then they get all excited,
250
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{\an8}cos they only hear
about the ones we recover.
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You know, with this case, you know,
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{\an8}I felt really confident
that we'd find him fairly quick.
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It's very difficult for a family
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{\an8}when their father
is missing like that,
255
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{\an8}because they're kind of, in a sense,
in a grieving purgatory.
256
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{\an8}They don't quite know yet
if they should be grieving,
257
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{\an8}cos they're holding out hope
that he's still alive,
258
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{\an8}so that's such a difficult space
to be in
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as a spouse,
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but also as children, especially,
261
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keeping everyone together,
262
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having to go about their lives...
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{\an8}It was just so difficult
for all of them.
264
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{\an8}There comes a time
when everyone realises
265
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{\an8}that this is not going
to be a rescue.
266
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Now it's going to be a recovery
267
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{\an8}and you have to be honest
with the family and let them know,
268
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{\an8}but by this point,
the family already knows
269
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{\an8}that something like this
is going to be a possibility.
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{\an8}You understand this is a family man
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with a wife, three children.
272
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{\an8}People are really not feeling good
about this situation.
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The community is really sad.
274
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{\an8}The Sheriff's office
did a fantastic job
275
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{\an8}of keeping the local media
up to date.
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{\an8}You're starting to think,
maybe worst-case scenario,
277
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{\an8}at some point
they are going to find him
278
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and your reports are gonna move
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{\an8}from a missing kayaker
to unfortunately...
280
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{\an8}maybe you're gonna have to write
about a deceased kayaker.
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From the public's point of view,
282
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from the community's point of view
283
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{\an8}looking in, you know, they're just
seeing this missing persons case
284
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{\an8}that, you know, Ryan has,
tragically, probably passed away
285
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{\an8}and the family, you know,
isn't able to move on
286
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and is having a tough time coping.
287
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{\an8}They have no idea that he could
potentially still be alive.
288
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{\an8}There was two
cellphone-tower lights on the lake
289
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and we knew that Ryan was parked
290
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by one of them, OK? And so...
291
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{\an8}why wouldn't he swim
to the closest shore?
292
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{\an8}There's houses over there, you know?
Why didn't he swim that way?
293
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{\an8}So I asked the Sheriff's department,
I said,
294
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"We need to do a test."
295
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{\an8}So he took a couple of deputies
in a boat, at night
296
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and did a test
297
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{\an8}to go out there and
find out what it's like to be
298
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at dark, roll over,
299
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fall into the water, come up
300
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{\an8}and then try to figure out
where you're at.
301
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{\an8}And he told me that, yeah,
their deputy said
302
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{\an8}that it was extremely difficult
to get oriented.
303
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{\an8}The thing, though, that was
interesting about that test was,
304
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is those two red lights.
305
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Those two tower lights...
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Those stood out.
307
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{\an8}So we wondered if Ryan
had focused on the wrong light.
308
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{\an8}The one light would have took him
towards his car in the shallow water
309
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{\an8}and the other light would have taken
him a mile across all the way,
310
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{\an8}in the 200-and-some feet of water,
all the way across.
311
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{\an8}This was later part of the summer,
early fall,
312
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{\an8}so the water's very warm -
probably in the 70s.
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So in warm water,
314
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the body will typically process gas
315
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and the gas will form in our bodies
316
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{\an8}and that's
what lightens our body up
317
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to allow us to float to the surface.
318
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So we figured it, you know:
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{\an8}certainly within four, five days,
at the most,
320
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he would have came to the surface,
321
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{\an8}if he was in the weeds
where we couldn't see him.
322
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{\an8}I wasn't ready
to give up on the case,
323
00:19:23,821 --> 00:19:26,541
{\an8}because I just felt he was there
and it's just a matter of...
324
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{\an8}He must be laying
up against something
325
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{\an8}or he's not jumping out
like he should.
326
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Every day that the search goes on,
327
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{\an8}for me, I'm doubting myself:
"God, did I miss this guy?"
328
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The days were going on.
329
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{\an8}I wondered if I was losing my touch,
I guess...
330
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{\an8}...because I just couldn't find him,
and I should've.
331
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The worst thing I have to deal with
332
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{\an8}is when I have to tell a family
member I can't find them.
333
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{\an8}You know,
that's always the toughest.
334
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{\an8}Just the phone conversations
that I have
335
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are enough to rip you apart.
336
00:20:08,061 --> 00:20:10,621
{\an8}There sometimes comes a point
in an investigation
337
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where you're working on a hypothesis
338
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and it almost becomes a belief,
339
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and the possible belief in this one
340
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is that Ryan is in this lake...
341
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{\an8}...but sometimes you are confronted
with evidence
342
00:20:24,581 --> 00:20:27,061
{\an8}that requires you
to kinda really step back
343
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{\an8}and realise that
that might not be true...
344
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{\an8}...and when this lake
was systematically searched
345
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{\an8}and it was carefully
and properly searched
346
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{\an8}and established
that he was not in the lake,
347
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then you immediately have to think
348
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{\an8}about what the other
possible explanations are
349
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and that's when you begin a phase
350
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of a different kind of operation,
351
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{\an8}because it doesn't sound
like a missing person's inquiry
352
00:20:53,541 --> 00:20:56,501
{\an8}any more. It sounds something
more complicated than that.
353
00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:18,221
{\an8}The story of
the missing kayaker from Watertown
354
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gaining global attention.
355
00:21:19,941 --> 00:21:23,581
{\an8}Ryan Borgwardt's wife
and children are still here
356
00:21:23,741 --> 00:21:25,821
waiting for word on where he is.
357
00:21:28,741 --> 00:21:30,701
{\an8}In this case,
it's the rescue organisation
358
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{\an8}that finally came forward
to the Sheriff
359
00:21:32,821 --> 00:21:36,221
{\an8}and said, "This is unusual.
We've never had this.
360
00:21:36,381 --> 00:21:38,661
{\an8}We're not seeing him
in any of our sonars.
361
00:21:38,821 --> 00:21:41,701
{\an8}We're not seeing him in any of
our dredges, or anything like that.
362
00:21:41,861 --> 00:21:43,261
It's... it's unusual."
363
00:21:46,981 --> 00:21:50,701
{\an8}It wasn't until Day 19 and 20,
364
00:21:50,861 --> 00:21:54,981
{\an8}when one of the detectives
that was working the case,
365
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very much involved,
366
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he was driving my boat.
367
00:21:58,381 --> 00:22:01,141
{\an8}I remember him and I got
into a pretty good conversation
368
00:22:01,301 --> 00:22:03,541
{\an8}about what he's been finding
and, you know, just nothing.
369
00:22:03,701 --> 00:22:05,101
He's not finding anything out there.
370
00:22:07,061 --> 00:22:08,421
{\an8}He could see
what we were doing.
371
00:22:08,581 --> 00:22:11,861
{\an8}He could see, you know,
that we were not missing anything.
372
00:22:12,021 --> 00:22:16,501
{\an8}He could see we were seeing
twigs and branches down there
373
00:22:16,661 --> 00:22:19,181
{\an8}and if we could see
twigs and branches,
374
00:22:19,341 --> 00:22:21,341
certainly we could see a body.
375
00:22:23,261 --> 00:22:25,261
So on that last couple of days,
376
00:22:25,421 --> 00:22:28,461
{\an8}we got into the conversation
about, you know, "Guys, what...
377
00:22:28,621 --> 00:22:31,581
{\an8}you know, what's the possibilities
of this guy not being here?
378
00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:33,541
I mean, he should have...
379
00:22:33,701 --> 00:22:35,381
we should have found him."
380
00:22:35,541 --> 00:22:36,741
And they all agreed to that.
381
00:22:39,781 --> 00:22:41,781
At the end of the 20th day,
382
00:22:41,941 --> 00:22:43,861
the Sheriff, as he always did,
383
00:22:44,021 --> 00:22:45,581
met me at the gas station
384
00:22:45,741 --> 00:22:47,981
and that's when we talked
385
00:22:48,141 --> 00:22:51,901
{\an8}and I said, "Mark, I just...
I think you gotta look elsewhere."
386
00:22:52,061 --> 00:22:54,181
{\an8}I says, "You guys need
to look into this, guys,
387
00:22:54,341 --> 00:22:57,421
{\an8}make sure he's not drinking
margaritas in Mexico,
388
00:22:57,581 --> 00:23:00,341
{\an8}cos I just can't believe this guy,
that we haven't found him."
389
00:23:04,741 --> 00:23:07,141
{\an8}They're the ones
that have the expertise,
390
00:23:07,301 --> 00:23:09,381
{\an8}so now you have to say,
"Well, wait a minute.
391
00:23:09,541 --> 00:23:12,261
{\an8}Where could he have been?"
Or, "Where could he be?"
392
00:23:14,181 --> 00:23:16,621
We do not know where he is.
393
00:23:16,781 --> 00:23:19,501
We know that he's not in our lake,
394
00:23:19,661 --> 00:23:23,301
{\an8}but there's a family
that wants their daddy back.
395
00:23:24,261 --> 00:23:26,061
{\an8}What that provoked them to do
396
00:23:26,221 --> 00:23:29,301
{\an8}is to send a couple of deputies
to the family
397
00:23:29,461 --> 00:23:31,741
{\an8}and they interviewed
the family members.
398
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The evidence they came back with,
399
00:23:34,301 --> 00:23:36,981
{\an8}they told me, they said,
"Man, this all it looks legit."
400
00:23:37,141 --> 00:23:39,021
They can't see any issues
401
00:23:39,181 --> 00:23:41,061
{\an8}that would, you know,
tell them any different,
402
00:23:41,221 --> 00:23:44,381
{\an8}and so we thought, "Well, OK,
we just gotta keep working on it."
403
00:23:46,381 --> 00:23:49,141
{\an8}The investigation
shifts drastically
404
00:23:49,301 --> 00:23:52,901
{\an8}from looking for him
to looking AT him
405
00:23:53,061 --> 00:23:55,461
{\an8}as a suspect
in his own disappearance.
406
00:23:58,141 --> 00:23:59,501
Once their theory
407
00:23:59,661 --> 00:24:01,661
{\an8}that Ryan could actually
still be alive
408
00:24:02,621 --> 00:24:04,301
started to get some legs,
409
00:24:04,461 --> 00:24:09,181
{\an8}the police quietly opened an
investigation to try and find him.
410
00:24:11,541 --> 00:24:13,421
To me, when I look at this,
411
00:24:13,581 --> 00:24:15,381
all the signs of staging is there.
412
00:24:16,501 --> 00:24:18,821
{\an8}What we saw is
what he was trying to establish,
413
00:24:18,981 --> 00:24:21,581
{\an8}and that is that, "Boom!
Here's my stuff. I'm in the lake.
414
00:24:21,741 --> 00:24:25,021
{\an8}You should believe I drowned myself
or I was drowned."
415
00:24:27,421 --> 00:24:28,861
First of all,
416
00:24:29,021 --> 00:24:32,021
{\an8}it's an accident. An accident
is one of the top four themes
417
00:24:32,181 --> 00:24:34,461
used to stage a homicide,
418
00:24:34,621 --> 00:24:36,501
{\an8}but in this particular case,
it's not a homicide,
419
00:24:36,661 --> 00:24:39,661
{\an8}but it's still a staged scene.
Top four - accident.
420
00:24:41,581 --> 00:24:43,661
{\an8}The public was not made aware
421
00:24:43,821 --> 00:24:46,021
that the police suspected.
422
00:24:46,181 --> 00:24:48,541
On the outside, all the public knows
423
00:24:48,701 --> 00:24:50,741
is that he's still missing,
424
00:24:50,901 --> 00:24:52,581
while, behind the scenes,
425
00:24:53,461 --> 00:24:55,661
{\an8}the police know
what they're looking for
426
00:24:55,821 --> 00:24:57,901
{\an8}and they're going
in a completely different direction.
427
00:24:58,061 --> 00:24:59,701
{\an8}The reason
they would do something like that
428
00:24:59,861 --> 00:25:04,101
{\an8}is, it's very important to protect
the integrity of the investigation,
429
00:25:04,261 --> 00:25:06,501
so as not to tip him off
430
00:25:06,661 --> 00:25:09,581
{\an8}and let him know
that he's being looked for.
431
00:25:12,661 --> 00:25:14,821
{\an8}If it was me, I would be interested:
432
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does he have a computer?
433
00:25:16,541 --> 00:25:19,021
Does he have any Internet access?
434
00:25:19,181 --> 00:25:21,581
{\an8}I would wanna look and see
if he's been looking for something.
435
00:25:21,741 --> 00:25:24,341
{\an8}Has he been communicating
with somebody else?
436
00:25:24,501 --> 00:25:26,941
{\an8}Because
he's certainly not in the lake.
437
00:25:30,141 --> 00:25:32,981
{\an8}I can't remember
how many days it was,
438
00:25:33,141 --> 00:25:35,141
{\an8}but I did the usual.
I got a hold of Mark and said,
439
00:25:35,301 --> 00:25:39,581
{\an8}"Hey, Mark," I said, "you know,
I got some time coming up here.
440
00:25:39,741 --> 00:25:41,701
{\an8}I could come over
such-and-such a day,"
441
00:25:41,861 --> 00:25:46,101
{\an8}you know, through a text, and
it was in that text that he said,
442
00:25:46,261 --> 00:25:48,661
"Why don't you hold off for now?"
443
00:25:48,821 --> 00:25:51,021
And... and I was, like, "Bingo!"
444
00:25:51,181 --> 00:25:53,741
I says, "They did find something."
445
00:25:57,021 --> 00:25:59,101
{\an8}He said
that they had some information
446
00:25:59,261 --> 00:26:01,181
{\an8}that they were gonna share
with the family.
447
00:26:01,341 --> 00:26:03,861
{\an8}He says, you know,
"We want you here for that,"
448
00:26:04,021 --> 00:26:07,621
{\an8}and I thought, "Oh, boy,
what the heck is this now?"
449
00:26:10,821 --> 00:26:14,261
{\an8}Having eliminated the fact
that his body is in the lake,
450
00:26:14,421 --> 00:26:16,501
the obvious thing to do is go back
451
00:26:16,661 --> 00:26:18,421
and look at this individual
452
00:26:18,581 --> 00:26:20,501
and see what their life was like
453
00:26:20,661 --> 00:26:24,141
{\an8}and the sort of things
that might be relevant here are
454
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whether the person was in debt
455
00:26:27,141 --> 00:26:29,941
or there is domestic abuse,
456
00:26:30,101 --> 00:26:33,061
{\an8}or his work colleagues
think he was a thief,
457
00:26:33,221 --> 00:26:37,061
{\an8}and all of these begin
to link into... Now, of course,
458
00:26:37,221 --> 00:26:39,261
{\an8}none of these things
might be uncovered
459
00:26:39,421 --> 00:26:43,701
{\an8}and you might find out
a perfectly kind of normal family,
460
00:26:43,861 --> 00:26:46,021
but often you uncover secrets
461
00:26:46,181 --> 00:26:48,101
that are not well known.
462
00:26:50,181 --> 00:26:53,101
{\an8}So they would look
for any ties that he has
463
00:26:53,261 --> 00:26:55,061
to people in different countries,
464
00:26:55,221 --> 00:26:57,261
to people in different states...
465
00:26:58,221 --> 00:27:00,141
{\an8}...and also they look
into a motive of,
466
00:27:00,301 --> 00:27:02,301
{\an8}"What kind of a benefit
would it be to him
467
00:27:02,461 --> 00:27:04,981
{\an8}to fake his own death
and go away?"
468
00:27:07,421 --> 00:27:10,341
{\an8}So as they start
looking into Ryan's personal life,
469
00:27:10,501 --> 00:27:14,581
{\an8}they come upon the fact that he has
thousands of dollars in debt
470
00:27:14,741 --> 00:27:17,301
{\an8}and they start to piece together,
you know,
471
00:27:17,461 --> 00:27:20,101
{\an8}"Maybe he did have a reason
to disappear.
472
00:27:20,261 --> 00:27:22,981
{\an8}Maybe there was kind of a motive
for him
473
00:27:23,141 --> 00:27:25,901
to want to escape his current life."
474
00:27:28,461 --> 00:27:32,221
{\an8}That was the first
time that I'd met Emily in person.
475
00:27:32,381 --> 00:27:35,701
{\an8}I met his two sisters,
a brother, his parents...
476
00:27:37,981 --> 00:27:41,101
{\an8}We kinda briefly talked
outside the Sheriff's office.
477
00:27:41,261 --> 00:27:44,301
{\an8}Went inside for this briefing -
you know, how the search was going.
478
00:27:44,461 --> 00:27:48,181
{\an8}What I think the family
was expecting is to get an update
479
00:27:48,341 --> 00:27:51,581
{\an8}and they had no clue
what they were stepping into.
480
00:27:52,741 --> 00:27:55,381
{\an8}He took photos of his passport.
481
00:27:55,541 --> 00:27:58,581
{\an8}We found out that he moved funds
to a foreign bank.
482
00:27:58,741 --> 00:28:00,861
Changing his email, he took out
483
00:28:01,021 --> 00:28:05,101
{\an8}a $375,000 life-insurance policy
in January
484
00:28:05,261 --> 00:28:06,901
and he purchased airline cards
485
00:28:07,061 --> 00:28:09,421
in communication with a woman
486
00:28:09,581 --> 00:28:12,501
in Uzbekistan.
487
00:28:14,461 --> 00:28:17,781
{\an8}Brian had thousands of dollars
of credit-card debt
488
00:28:17,941 --> 00:28:20,621
that he had hidden from his family.
489
00:28:21,821 --> 00:28:24,861
{\an8}He had taken out
a life-insurance policy on himself
490
00:28:25,021 --> 00:28:27,821
and he had also transferred funds
491
00:28:27,981 --> 00:28:29,621
into a foreign bank.
492
00:28:29,781 --> 00:28:33,501
{\an8}All of these things leading up,
one on top of the other,
493
00:28:33,661 --> 00:28:36,621
{\an8}point to...
this man faked his own death,
494
00:28:36,781 --> 00:28:39,301
{\an8}and then the question becomes,
"Why?"
495
00:28:44,421 --> 00:28:47,901
{\an8}People who would want to put an end
to the life they have
496
00:28:48,061 --> 00:28:51,861
{\an8}and start something new somewhere
else, or with someone else,
497
00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:54,661
{\an8}typically,
it's about financial issues
498
00:28:54,821 --> 00:28:56,781
{\an8}or they just had it
with the life they have.
499
00:28:56,941 --> 00:28:59,021
{\an8}It's not everything
it was cracked up to be,
500
00:28:59,181 --> 00:29:01,221
or they have a new relationship
501
00:29:01,381 --> 00:29:04,541
{\an8}and they just want
to cut off the past
502
00:29:04,701 --> 00:29:06,541
and move on with the next one.
503
00:29:09,421 --> 00:29:12,181
{\an8}As they're continuing
their investigation,
504
00:29:12,341 --> 00:29:14,341
{\an8}they come upon some other pieces
of the puzzle.
505
00:29:14,501 --> 00:29:15,581
They find that
506
00:29:15,741 --> 00:29:17,221
he applied to renew his passport
507
00:29:17,381 --> 00:29:20,781
{\an8}and he was flagged trying
to cross the border in Canada.
508
00:29:22,461 --> 00:29:24,061
Then the case becomes,
509
00:29:24,221 --> 00:29:27,101
{\an8}"How do they find him and how
do they get in contact with him?"
510
00:29:30,181 --> 00:29:32,341
In this instance, it appears
511
00:29:32,501 --> 00:29:35,301
{\an8}that Ryan had attempted
to wipe his hard drive.
512
00:29:35,461 --> 00:29:37,981
{\an8}Now, it's not very easy
to wipe a hard drive completely.
513
00:29:38,141 --> 00:29:41,741
{\an8}Deleting a file doesn't delete
the file from the hard drive,
514
00:29:41,901 --> 00:29:43,821
it just takes a link off it,
515
00:29:43,981 --> 00:29:46,341
{\an8}which makes it
not possible to be found
516
00:29:46,501 --> 00:29:48,581
with the computer's search engine.
517
00:29:48,741 --> 00:29:51,021
{\an8}That data is still there.
It's quite easy to find,
518
00:29:51,181 --> 00:29:53,221
{\an8}if you know anything
about computers.
519
00:29:54,261 --> 00:29:55,941
Experts who know about this will,
520
00:29:56,101 --> 00:29:58,741
{\an8}when they wipe a hard drive,
will wipe it multiple times
521
00:29:58,901 --> 00:30:01,341
to make sure it is actually blank.
522
00:30:04,021 --> 00:30:07,661
{\an8}There was a folder that police
were able to find, a deleted folder.
523
00:30:07,821 --> 00:30:09,621
It was titled "Promise".
524
00:30:11,141 --> 00:30:14,621
{\an8}In that folder,
they found numerous communications
525
00:30:14,781 --> 00:30:18,061
{\an8}between Ryan
and a woman in another country
526
00:30:18,221 --> 00:30:22,461
{\an8}and that indicated that
they were planning a life together.
527
00:30:25,101 --> 00:30:28,301
{\an8}Sometimes what happens
when people get on social media
528
00:30:28,461 --> 00:30:30,221
and they meet other people
529
00:30:30,381 --> 00:30:34,181
{\an8}and they develop this...
this kind of imaginary relationship
530
00:30:34,341 --> 00:30:37,941
{\an8}with another person, and especially
if they're in another country,
531
00:30:38,101 --> 00:30:40,221
and that person kind of is a draw
532
00:30:40,381 --> 00:30:42,341
{\an8}and maybe makes promises:
"Oh, yes,"
533
00:30:42,501 --> 00:30:45,581
{\an8}you know, "Come and... come
and join me. We can be together,"
534
00:30:45,741 --> 00:30:49,541
{\an8}they start envisioning:
"How could this work?
535
00:30:49,701 --> 00:30:51,181
What would I need to do
536
00:30:51,341 --> 00:30:54,261
to just stop living like this
537
00:30:54,421 --> 00:30:56,701
{\an8}and go off and live
with that person?"
538
00:30:59,141 --> 00:31:02,421
{\an8}He even went as far
as having a medical procedure
539
00:31:02,581 --> 00:31:04,941
to have his vasectomy reversed
540
00:31:05,101 --> 00:31:06,101
before this,
541
00:31:06,261 --> 00:31:09,821
{\an8}so it's very clear that he wants
to start over in a new place.
542
00:31:12,181 --> 00:31:14,301
{\an8}It's extremely self-absorbed.
543
00:31:14,461 --> 00:31:16,021
{\an8}The person
doesn't seem to understand
544
00:31:16,181 --> 00:31:17,901
{\an8}the impact they'll have
on other people,
545
00:31:18,061 --> 00:31:22,221
{\an8}or does not care about the emotional
toll it's going to take.
546
00:31:23,221 --> 00:31:24,821
They're in it for themselves
547
00:31:24,981 --> 00:31:26,741
{\an8}and they just think
they're entitled to it.
548
00:31:29,661 --> 00:31:32,541
{\an8}As they're trying to search
for Ryan to get in touch with him,
549
00:31:32,701 --> 00:31:33,941
they're going through emails,
550
00:31:34,101 --> 00:31:36,221
{\an8}through every piece
of contact information
551
00:31:36,381 --> 00:31:38,061
he could have possibly used
552
00:31:38,221 --> 00:31:39,621
and, through that search,
553
00:31:39,781 --> 00:31:42,821
{\an8}they end up connected
with a woman who speaks Russian
554
00:31:42,981 --> 00:31:45,181
and they ask her about Ryan
555
00:31:45,341 --> 00:31:48,741
{\an8}and she is actually able to put them
in touch with Ryan
556
00:31:48,901 --> 00:31:51,741
{\an8}and, at that point,
they are absolutely gobsmacked
557
00:31:51,901 --> 00:31:54,461
by the fact that Ryan is still alive
558
00:31:54,621 --> 00:31:57,061
{\an8}and here he is,
living in a different country.
559
00:32:07,021 --> 00:32:09,661
Ryan, if you're viewing this,
560
00:32:09,821 --> 00:32:14,341
I plead that you contact us...
561
00:32:15,461 --> 00:32:17,741
...or contact your family.
562
00:32:19,581 --> 00:32:22,061
{\an8}Well, the biggest clue is,
he's talking to someone
563
00:32:22,221 --> 00:32:25,061
{\an8}in Eastern Europe. That's probably
where he's at right now...
564
00:32:27,341 --> 00:32:29,981
...and eventually, they'd got contact
565
00:32:30,141 --> 00:32:31,741
with someone who purported to be
566
00:32:31,901 --> 00:32:34,301
our missing husband,
567
00:32:34,461 --> 00:32:37,301
{\an8}so now it's a case of,
"OK, now how do we determine
568
00:32:37,461 --> 00:32:39,781
whether it's him?"
569
00:32:39,941 --> 00:32:42,581
{\an8}In order to really prove that
it's him that they're talking to,
570
00:32:42,741 --> 00:32:45,981
{\an8}they ask Ryan to send them
a video message with the date,
571
00:32:46,141 --> 00:32:48,861
so that they can verify
572
00:32:49,021 --> 00:32:50,341
that he is, in fact, still alive
573
00:32:50,501 --> 00:32:53,061
{\an8}and, once he does that,
the news really sets in:
574
00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:55,741
{\an8}"Here he is. He's alive.
Oh, my God."
575
00:32:56,661 --> 00:32:58,061
I'm in my apartment.
576
00:32:58,221 --> 00:33:00,221
I am...
577
00:33:01,421 --> 00:33:03,941
...safe, secure. No problem.
578
00:33:07,381 --> 00:33:10,221
{\an8}Ryan's family woke up one morning,
you know,
579
00:33:10,381 --> 00:33:13,861
{\an8}they woke up with the same sense
of sadness and grieving
580
00:33:14,021 --> 00:33:16,941
{\an8}that their father, their husband,
was gone,
581
00:33:17,101 --> 00:33:18,501
that he was never going to be found,
582
00:33:18,661 --> 00:33:20,101
that he was probably dead
583
00:33:20,261 --> 00:33:22,581
and, hours later, the police come
584
00:33:22,741 --> 00:33:25,421
{\an8}and let them know, in fact,
Ryan is alive
585
00:33:25,581 --> 00:33:29,341
{\an8}and he is starting a whole new life
somewhere else.
586
00:33:36,981 --> 00:33:39,781
{\an8}We all went
into this conference room
587
00:33:39,941 --> 00:33:42,741
{\an8}and we had the family,
you know, probably 20 feet away
588
00:33:42,901 --> 00:33:45,621
{\an8}in one row of chairs
all the way across the front of us,
589
00:33:45,781 --> 00:33:46,901
not really knowing
590
00:33:47,061 --> 00:33:49,821
{\an8}what the information was
they were going to get hit with.
591
00:33:50,901 --> 00:33:52,901
That alone is a lot of pressure...
592
00:33:53,741 --> 00:33:55,741
...and the Sheriff is going through
593
00:33:55,901 --> 00:33:58,301
{\an8}kind of a series of things
of what's been going on
594
00:33:58,461 --> 00:34:00,541
and then, at some point,
595
00:34:00,701 --> 00:34:04,661
{\an8}he told the family that Ryan,
basically, staged his drowning
596
00:34:04,821 --> 00:34:07,941
{\an8}and they located him
in a foreign country.
597
00:34:11,181 --> 00:34:13,941
{\an8}That news
hit them like a bowling ball.
598
00:34:14,101 --> 00:34:16,381
{\an8}They couldn't imagine
anything like this.
599
00:34:16,541 --> 00:34:19,781
{\an8}They never thought that he could do
something like that to them.
600
00:34:21,701 --> 00:34:25,221
It was a bombshell for everybody.
601
00:34:25,381 --> 00:34:27,301
Holy BLEEP! This dirtbag
602
00:34:27,461 --> 00:34:30,581
{\an8}staged his death, you know that?
That... God Almighty!
603
00:34:30,741 --> 00:34:33,941
{\an8}And then to sit there
and look at the family,
604
00:34:34,101 --> 00:34:35,941
{\an8}seeing the responses
on their faces...
605
00:34:36,101 --> 00:34:40,181
{\an8}They were hit with a bombshell.
They had no clue.
606
00:34:41,741 --> 00:34:43,941
{\an8}That was tough.
That was really tough.
607
00:34:45,821 --> 00:34:47,421
When detectives break the news
608
00:34:47,581 --> 00:34:49,941
{\an8}to Ryan's wife and kids
that he's alive
609
00:34:50,101 --> 00:34:51,541
and he's in another country
610
00:34:51,701 --> 00:34:53,101
and he's with another woman,
611
00:34:53,261 --> 00:34:54,861
it's a devastating betrayal
612
00:34:55,021 --> 00:34:57,821
and violation of the family trust
613
00:34:57,981 --> 00:35:01,781
{\an8}and it had to be horrifying
for all of them
614
00:35:01,941 --> 00:35:05,181
{\an8}that their father and husband
would do anything like this.
615
00:35:06,541 --> 00:35:08,981
{\an8}They would probably
have tried to figure out,
616
00:35:09,141 --> 00:35:11,181
"Why didn't we see the signs?
617
00:35:11,341 --> 00:35:13,981
{\an8}Why didn't we understand
that he was so unhappy?"
618
00:35:14,141 --> 00:35:18,461
{\an8}They might have felt guilt that
maybe they had driven him away.
619
00:35:19,501 --> 00:35:23,101
{\an8}It would have been emotionally
devastating on a lot of levels.
620
00:35:26,661 --> 00:35:29,301
{\an8}You can only imagine
the level of shock
621
00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:31,941
{\an8}that they're feeling
when they hear this,
622
00:35:32,101 --> 00:35:35,821
{\an8}that... their father, their husband
who they loved,
623
00:35:35,981 --> 00:35:37,981
who they've known their whole lives,
624
00:35:38,141 --> 00:35:40,781
{\an8}is actually just living
somewhere else - just left.
625
00:35:40,941 --> 00:35:43,501
{\an8}Just picked up and...
and left them behind.
626
00:35:43,661 --> 00:35:46,341
{\an8}That's a horrible thing
to have to comprehend.
627
00:35:49,421 --> 00:35:51,021
{\an8}Legally speaking,
628
00:35:51,181 --> 00:35:52,821
he has deceived investigators.
629
00:35:52,981 --> 00:35:54,741
He has obstructed an investigation
630
00:35:54,901 --> 00:36:00,101
{\an8}and he's also wasted an incredible
amount of public resources.
631
00:36:02,701 --> 00:36:04,821
So now it's up to the detectives
632
00:36:04,981 --> 00:36:07,301
{\an8}to convince him to come back
and get all the stuff settled.
633
00:36:09,861 --> 00:36:12,781
{\an8}Police
have to incentivise him somehow
634
00:36:12,941 --> 00:36:15,221
to come back.
635
00:36:15,381 --> 00:36:17,341
Ryan was already in another country,
636
00:36:17,501 --> 00:36:19,741
knew he would not be extradited...
637
00:36:20,661 --> 00:36:24,181
{\an8}...and had he not ever come back
to the United States,
638
00:36:24,341 --> 00:36:25,901
he would have gotten away with this.
639
00:36:28,021 --> 00:36:29,461
{\an8}We got a press release.
640
00:36:29,621 --> 00:36:31,661
{\an8}We were told he came back
on his own volition,
641
00:36:31,821 --> 00:36:33,581
that he was, indeed, in custody
642
00:36:33,741 --> 00:36:35,781
{\an8}and you know that he has
a court appearance then,
643
00:36:35,941 --> 00:36:37,901
{\an8}so everything moved quickly
from that.
644
00:36:40,021 --> 00:36:41,421
Whether it was guilty feelings
645
00:36:41,581 --> 00:36:43,981
{\an8}or talking to the detectives
to come back,
646
00:36:44,141 --> 00:36:45,981
{\an8}he does come back
to the United States.
647
00:36:48,541 --> 00:36:51,501
{\an8}When investigators
finally talked to Ryan,
648
00:36:51,661 --> 00:36:55,701
{\an8}he seemed to have no sense
of the chaos he'd created
649
00:36:55,861 --> 00:36:57,341
and the grief
650
00:36:57,501 --> 00:36:59,501
and the cost to law enforcement.
651
00:37:08,061 --> 00:37:10,061
Even when he's finally caught,
652
00:37:10,221 --> 00:37:14,381
{\an8}he doesn't seem to understand,
"Why is this any big deal?"
653
00:37:26,181 --> 00:37:29,541
{\an8}The only thing
we could really charge him on
654
00:37:29,701 --> 00:37:32,261
{\an8}was a misdemeanour -
"interfering with an officer".
655
00:37:32,421 --> 00:37:34,901
{\an8}There may have been a fraud
with the insurance,
656
00:37:35,061 --> 00:37:37,821
{\an8}if his wife had filed, etc,
like that.
657
00:37:37,981 --> 00:37:41,661
{\an8}There was an expense
to the Sheriffs and to the rescue,
658
00:37:41,821 --> 00:37:44,861
{\an8}but, other than that, there's
no really law that was violated.
659
00:37:46,461 --> 00:37:49,021
{\an8}But I think he should have had
much stiffer charges
660
00:37:49,181 --> 00:37:51,381
{\an8}and I think there should have been
more accountability.
661
00:37:51,541 --> 00:37:53,541
{\an8}The first factor is
the seriousness of the offence.
662
00:37:53,701 --> 00:37:56,781
{\an8}To be clear, the defendant
is NOT being sentenced
663
00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:58,141
for faking his death.
664
00:37:58,301 --> 00:38:00,741
{\an8}That is not a crime
in the State of Wisconsin.
665
00:38:00,901 --> 00:38:03,621
{\an8}He pleads guilty
to the misdemeanour
666
00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:05,621
{\an8}and, essentially,
he can go on with his life.
667
00:38:05,781 --> 00:38:08,421
{\an8}I deeply regret the actions
that I did that night
668
00:38:08,581 --> 00:38:14,181
{\an8}and all the pain that I caused
my family and friends.
669
00:38:15,301 --> 00:38:18,741
{\an8}Ryan did apologise
and feel remorseful
670
00:38:18,901 --> 00:38:22,461
{\an8}for disappearing
for those three months of time
671
00:38:22,621 --> 00:38:24,701
{\an8}and, you know,
trying to fake his death...
672
00:38:26,501 --> 00:38:28,741
...but does "sorry" really make up
673
00:38:28,901 --> 00:38:31,421
for the grief and horror
674
00:38:31,581 --> 00:38:34,581
{\an8}that he put upon his entire family
and the community
675
00:38:34,741 --> 00:38:36,781
{\an8}and all of those people
that tried to search for him?
676
00:38:36,941 --> 00:38:38,341
I don't think so.
677
00:38:42,381 --> 00:38:45,541
{\an8}Ryan was ultimately sentenced
to 89 days in jail,
678
00:38:45,701 --> 00:38:48,861
{\an8}which was
a symbolic, you know, sentencing,
679
00:38:49,021 --> 00:38:51,981
{\an8}because 89 days
was the number of days
680
00:38:52,141 --> 00:38:55,221
{\an8}that the community and his family
spent looking for him
681
00:38:55,381 --> 00:38:58,021
{\an8}and they were the days
that he was missing.
682
00:38:58,181 --> 00:39:00,701
Does 89 days in jail really make up
683
00:39:00,861 --> 00:39:03,181
for all the pain he caused?
684
00:39:05,221 --> 00:39:07,461
{\an8}The sentence was not appropriate.
685
00:39:07,621 --> 00:39:10,021
I think it was actually silly.
686
00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:14,501
{\an8}He cost the community
financially and emotionally.
687
00:39:14,661 --> 00:39:16,981
{\an8}He should have been held
accountable.
688
00:39:25,381 --> 00:39:29,661
{\an8}He spent a lot of time preparing,
a lot of time staging
689
00:39:29,821 --> 00:39:31,781
and did a pretty good job of it.
690
00:39:34,061 --> 00:39:37,061
{\an8}It's very possible that he
could have gotten away with it,
691
00:39:37,221 --> 00:39:38,981
had the police not continued on
692
00:39:39,141 --> 00:39:40,901
and then gone back to his computer
693
00:39:41,061 --> 00:39:43,861
{\an8}and started doing that search when
they realised something was wrong.
694
00:39:45,901 --> 00:39:47,781
He plainly didn't foresee
695
00:39:47,941 --> 00:39:50,981
{\an8}how carefully the police
would search the lake
696
00:39:51,141 --> 00:39:53,221
{\an8}and eventually
come to the conclusion
697
00:39:53,381 --> 00:39:55,541
that he was not in the lake,
698
00:39:55,701 --> 00:39:59,461
{\an8}nor did he realise
that they could find evidence,
699
00:39:59,621 --> 00:40:01,701
{\an8}they could find data
on his computer.
700
00:40:03,021 --> 00:40:06,061
{\an8}He still left gaps
that could be found by investigators
701
00:40:06,221 --> 00:40:10,181
{\an8}and that's because he wouldn't
have known these things.
702
00:40:11,581 --> 00:40:13,421
{\an8}It wasn't just his family
703
00:40:13,581 --> 00:40:16,581
{\an8}that was involved
in searching for him.
704
00:40:16,741 --> 00:40:18,101
It was the whole community.
705
00:40:18,261 --> 00:40:21,461
{\an8}It was so many people
who were mourning his loss,
706
00:40:21,621 --> 00:40:23,821
who were mourning for the family
707
00:40:23,981 --> 00:40:27,341
{\an8}and were highly affected
by his disappearance.
708
00:40:30,221 --> 00:40:32,941
{\an8}The people
who had volunteered to help,
709
00:40:33,101 --> 00:40:37,261
{\an8}who wanted to, you know, expend
their time and resources
710
00:40:37,421 --> 00:40:40,301
{\an8}in any way they could
to help find this man
711
00:40:40,461 --> 00:40:42,741
would have felt horribly betrayed,
712
00:40:42,901 --> 00:40:44,901
{\an8}especially
if they were friends with him.
713
00:40:45,061 --> 00:40:48,861
{\an8}It would have been really
a devastating thing to experience.
714
00:40:50,981 --> 00:40:53,021
{\an8}Ryan wanted to be remembered
715
00:40:53,181 --> 00:40:55,381
{\an8}for the good things he had done
in his life.
716
00:40:55,541 --> 00:40:58,501
{\an8}He didn't want
these mistakes he had made
717
00:40:58,661 --> 00:41:00,181
to mar his reputation,
718
00:41:00,341 --> 00:41:04,741
{\an8}so he really felt that faking
his death was the way out.
719
00:41:07,181 --> 00:41:09,261
{\an8}That shows the kind of passion
720
00:41:09,421 --> 00:41:11,981
he had for reinventing himself.
721
00:41:13,781 --> 00:41:15,581
He had a goal. He had a mission
722
00:41:15,741 --> 00:41:18,821
and that supplied the energy needed
723
00:41:18,981 --> 00:41:20,981
to put this plan into place.
724
00:41:23,701 --> 00:41:25,421
The premeditation
725
00:41:25,581 --> 00:41:28,581
{\an8}and well-thought-out staging
of this scene,
726
00:41:28,741 --> 00:41:30,701
it makes it seem even worse
727
00:41:30,861 --> 00:41:33,261
than if he had just gone missing.
728
00:41:35,141 --> 00:41:38,261
{\an8}He definitely
put everybody through hell.
729
00:41:38,421 --> 00:41:41,821
{\an8}Not only me, but his family,
and he's gotta live with that now.
730
00:41:44,181 --> 00:41:46,901
I think it really made for a story
731
00:41:47,061 --> 00:41:50,021
{\an8}that the international press
could really jump onto.
732
00:41:50,181 --> 00:41:52,781
{\an8}You're focusing on a man
returning home for his family,
733
00:41:52,941 --> 00:41:55,141
but facing divorce proceedings.
734
00:41:57,421 --> 00:42:00,061
{\an8}I mean, he betrayed his wife.
735
00:42:00,981 --> 00:42:05,741
{\an8}He lied. He did
this really childish, stupid thing.
736
00:42:06,861 --> 00:42:08,821
Why would she want to be
737
00:42:08,981 --> 00:42:10,941
{\an8}with someone like that?
It's not surprising.
738
00:42:12,661 --> 00:42:14,581
For four months,
739
00:42:15,461 --> 00:42:17,941
he inflicted the worst kind of pain
740
00:42:18,101 --> 00:42:21,061
on those that were closest to him.
741
00:42:23,181 --> 00:42:26,541
{\an8}Not just his immediate family,
but to his in-laws,
742
00:42:26,701 --> 00:42:28,781
to his parents,
743
00:42:28,941 --> 00:42:30,541
any of his siblings,
744
00:42:30,701 --> 00:42:32,181
any of his cousins,
745
00:42:32,341 --> 00:42:33,861
anybody else in his family
746
00:42:34,021 --> 00:42:38,021
{\an8}that would have been devastated
for his loss.
747
00:42:39,981 --> 00:42:41,581
{\an8}They clearly don't want him
748
00:42:41,741 --> 00:42:43,021
back in their family.
749
00:42:43,181 --> 00:42:45,061
{\an8}Things will never go back
to what they were
750
00:42:45,221 --> 00:42:47,581
{\an8}and those relationships
will forever be marred.
751
00:42:47,741 --> 00:42:50,261
You can't take back those actions
752
00:42:50,421 --> 00:42:53,381
{\an8}and, you know, those relationships
with his children
753
00:42:53,541 --> 00:42:55,541
are affected for ever.
754
00:43:19,981 --> 00:43:21,981
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