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-It's shaking the drill. -Holy smokes,

do you have a sense on what you're grinding on?

It feels like you're hitting metal.

-You find something? -Yeah.

Look at that. That's a lot of metal.

I got something here. It's this object, right there.

That's a UFO.

It is clear that we're seeing consistency

as far as the type of UFO that seems to be appearing

-inside the bubble. -Absolutely.

Yeah.

Dang.

Look at that. That one's not even forming.

It's always that same spot right there.

Yes. Inside the bubble.

Look over there in the distance.

-In the bottom. -Look right there.

-Look at that. -Yeah. There's something there.

Looks like a spaceship from sci-fi, man.

There is a ranch in Northern Utah.

It is considered the epicenter

of the strangest and most disturbing occurrences on Earth.

For two decades,

the federal government

investigated the property.

Their findings have never been made public.

Right there! We got something!

Now a new team

of independent scientists and researchers are taking over.

They are uncovering evidence

that the countless stories...

It came right out of the mesa.

...of unidentified aerial phenomena...

-UAP right there! -Yep.

...bizarre energies...

It looks like there's a heat source right above 'em.

...and portals that lead to other dimensions...

We're maybe looking at the anomaly

for the first time, guys.

...might actually be true.

They will stop at nothing to reveal...

...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.

What a historic time to pull everyone together,

and what an amazing year we've had.

I want to thank everyone for pulling this together

for our final briefing.

After a year of groundbreaking new experiments

on Skinwalker Ranch,

Brandon has gathered our team at his office

in Salt Lake City, Utah,

for a final review of all the data we collected

and to discuss the future of our investigation.

I'm very excited,

and I also want to welcome our special guests.

Dr. Jan Francke, who has been with us

-through this investigation. -Indeed.

I'd also like to thank Jay Stratton,

senior intelligence official

who has been a key part of taking

this whole investigation forward.

Appreciate it.

And of course, welcoming Dr. Hal Puthoff,

uh, one of the most respected physicists on the planet.

Dr. Puthoff, thank you so much for joining us.

Well, it's a pleasure. I appreciate the-the invitation.

And it's crazy to think, almost 30 years ago,

you landed at Skinwalker Ranch with Robert Bigelow...

-That's right. -...to launch the scientific investigation

at that time.

Thank you. I am glad to be

a part of it today.

Having Dr. Hal Puthoff join us for this meeting

is a chance to share our findings with someone who,

just like Jay Stratton,

has his own history on Skinwalker Ranch.

In the 1990s and early 2000s,

Dr. Puthoff reported to Jay as a key member

of the federal government's investigation

at Skinwalker Ranch with Robert Bigelow.

He also worked for the CIA

and served as a senior advisor to the Pentagon's

Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program,

or AATIP.

That was a secret government study

of UAP phenomena between 2007 and 2012.

And most incredibly,

he made worldwide headlines this year

when he publicly stated that our government has recovered

physical evidence of extraterrestrial crafts

and beings.

So, it's gonna be amazing

to get his reaction to what we've found,

and any insights he can share

based on his years of experience both on and off the ranch.

As we're looking back

and reflecting on

the incredible, uh, discoveries of this last year,

uh, we've seen stunning evidence

that underscores how important this investigation is.

Yeah. This year,

to me, it-it stepped up a level.

Yeah. Well, I'm gonna pass

the, uh, torch here to Erik.

Uh, if you don't mind walking us through

-the latest findings and review. -Yeah, sure.

Dr. Puthoff, before we get into some of the data

from our final experiment, I think I'll start with

what we call the bubble,

because it was a main focus

of our experiments this year.

-Oh, yes. -Um, you know, here is

a representation of the bubble.

We're not exactly sure what it is,

but in our lidar reviews, it's portrayed as a giant sphere

in the middle of the ranch.

It's invisible to the naked eye.

And we've seen strange effects all around its boundary,

and as you can see, it appears above and below ground.

And dead center above the bubble

-is the triangle. -Really? Oh.

So, the final experiment that we did

was centered at the triangle, because we've repeatedly

seen evidence of some kind of blob right above the triangle.

Oh.

We've only seen the blob once, back in 2022,

when it appeared right after a rocket exploded

31 feet above the triangle.

Our high-speed camera clearly captured something

that materialized out of thin air.

This year, we've seen smaller rockets

diverted at that same level.

We've seen smoke that we shot through that space

appear to trace around something invisible

with the same shape as the blob.

Heck, we even saw electricity from a Tesla coil gun

get pulled upwards toward something right there, too.

We hoped that our final experiment of the year,

where we used explosions from the fuel mines

that created smoke rings,

might get this dang thing to reveal itself again

so we could figure out just what the heck it is.

And we were detonating

these fuel mines at the triangle

that are supposed to make perfect smoke rings

and-and perfect fireballs,

so that if something interferes

with these rings, we would see it.

And maybe even the blob.

-Oh, my.

This is an interesting clip of one of those

fuel mine detonations.

I'm gonna bring that one up.

This is drone footage looking straight down at the triangle.

So, we're looking almost straight down

the path of the lasers.

Look at that.

Now, these are supposed to form a perfect smoke ring,

and they do every time anywhere else,

but not on Skinwalker Ranch.

That is not a smoking ring.

No.

-Which is really odd. -It is irregular.

I mean, they've done thousands of shows,

and it worked exactly right every time.

So, what is stopping it from working at the triangle?

And so, something has to be changing the flow dynamics

-of the explosion. -Yes.

That's a key point, you know, something about our experiments

seems to trigger these effects.

That's a really good point.

The correlation is too specific to be a coincidence.

And they tend to coincide

with other strange phenomena appearing, too.

Yeah, that'd be tr...

Yeah, that would, that'd be very significant.

During this final experiment,

we also had Dave Mason's FLIR camera.

-Oh, my. -Yeah, in fact,

I've already reached out to him, I'm connected,

and we'll bring him up.

Hi, Dave. Thanks for jumping on with us.

Hey, thanks for having me.

So, David, I'm gonna play the clip you sent me,

and, uh, you can, uh, help us to interpret

what we're looking at.

Okay.

So, let's see.

-Okay. -So, this is the mesa looking north.

W-While we were conducting the experiments, uh,

with the explosions,

we began to see thermal anomalies,

particularly behind the mesa.

So, what are we seeing happen here?

It looks like a part of the ridgeline is heating up.

And, uh, it's-it's heating up

a-at a level that's greater than the mesa itself.

Look at that.

Where is it coming from?

That spot is heating up or it's reflecting a source

from somewhere inside the mesa.

The bubble could be causing these, uh,

unusual measurements and readings that we're getting

all over the ranch.

And, you know, the question is, why is it doing this?

Yep.

Why-why, why would we have rocks heating up like that?

This year, our experiments inside the bubble

have revealed several large masses of heat

that were hotter than the environment

by more than 20 degrees.

Dave Mason has captured these on his thermal cameras

at various altitudes inside the bubble.

But he's also caught them showing up above

or just behind the mesa.

We have no idea yet why our activities

seem to trigger these things.

But our work this year has repeatedly produced

evidence that phenomena in the bubble

and around the mesa may be connected.

The kind of, uh, group dynamics you've put together

and the instrumentation you put together

and the results that are coming out of the experiments

are just so advanced.

I mean, i-it's just thrilling for me to be able to see

that-that kind of output.

You-you know, Dr. Puthoff,

-t-there's a question... -Call me Hal. I'm-I'm very...

-Sure.

Hal, that's just the beginning

of what we found out about this bubble.

-Okay. -Yeah, you need to see

what we found much higher above the blob.

Yeah. I want to show you

some of the, uh, highlights of that exercise.

You won't be able to believe this.

You need to see what we found

much higher above the blob.

-Really? -Yes. -Oh, yeah.

Erik, you know, one thing we should do is maybe

-preface the altitudes of interest.

Thanks to the work we did with the drones,

we know that between 750 to 1,000 feet,

there's a magnetic anomaly.

And then, at 2,000 feet is the top of the bubble.

Then there's another magnetic anomaly at 3,200 feet,

where something took control of our instruments

and made them suddenly drop out of the sky.

It's pretty amazing.

-Yes.

So, we had a follow-up exercise

to our many drone, uh, activities on the ranch

scheduled over the triangle area.

And, uh, so, the Sky Elements team put together

a drone flight pattern.

We were launching four drones at a time

just to see how things would go, uh, with their system

going higher than they've ever gone before.

Drones are up.

Earlier this year, Sky Elements launched 100 drones

above the triangle, and found that a giant mass

of electromagnetic energy

was causing a break in their communication

between 750 and 1,000 feet.

Looks like the swarm is getting movement

all throughout the formation.

That made us wonder not only what it was

but if it went even higher in the air.

So, Sky Elements got a special permit with the FAA

to fly up to 4,000 feet

to see what they would encounter.

Looks to me like they're falling.

Drones coming down! Drones coming down!

And that's what led to this crazy

and scary event where four drones

were taken over by something

at 3,200 feet and fell out of the sky.

Oh, my gosh.

So, what in the world could these anomalies be?

-And what causes them? -So, let's play this through.

We're watching the drones ascend.

So, what you're seeing here is them reaching

an altitude of 3,271 feet.

Uh-huh.

And that's when the drones were taken over.

-Oh, my gosh. -Look at that.

Something just told them to suddenly go

in a different direction as fast as they could,

and then, they turned themselves off

and started falling from the sky at 3,000 feet.

Now, the way it was described to us by Sky Elements

is that something or someone

issued a command to those drones.

A kill command.

-Yes. -And the question is,

who or what did that?

It's important to note, as we reviewed

the video record, we found evidence of flashes in the sky

continuing through this flight.

So, you had flashing

throughout the experiment where all of this

-was going crazy? -Brandon,

even more concerning is there's a flash

directly over the drones at their apex.

Let me pull up one example.

-Do you have that? -I do, yes.

This is gonna require some careful attention

to a specific region of the screen.

Okay.

Here's the video of that happening.

You'll see the drones coming.

-There's one. -There's one.

You saw the flash? I'm gonna back up just a bit

so we can all see it.

Flash, boom.

-Yep. -That's unequivocal.

Uh, please replay that.

You got it.

Tom was right.

When Erik processed our surveillance video

from the ground, he found that a star-like flash

or some kind of UAP appeared out of nowhere

above the drones as they lost power.

So, did that UAP trigger the electromagnetic anomaly

to make the drones drop like that?

We studied these things

for a long time, and I don't know

that we ever came to a conclusion

-as to what they were. -Yeah.

Out of all the data we've taken

over the years, I think we collected

that much data and then some--

multiple orders of magnitude more-- this year.

And the UAP activity was higher than ever, too.

Yes.

Whether it's involved electrostatic discharge,

you know, we did the high-voltage experiments.

We did thermal experiments,

rockets, of course, and Doppler radar.

They all led to UAPs appearing above the ranch.

-Yeah. -What we have on video footage

is consistent with the reports going back decades.

It's almost as if every time we probe the bubble,

we have UFOs caught on camera.

Yeah, absolutely.

This year,

we collected a lot of data that suggested

the bubble could be the source of at least

some of the UAP activity on the ranch.

Look at this.

In one instance at the triangle,

a rocket hit something midair

a few seconds after launch and got destroyed.

Erik then found an image in the camera data

of something glowing in the airspace

at that very moment.

All right.

-We're dropping. -Later this year,

a team of Doppler radar experts came to help us figure out

if the UAPs were coming from somewhere inside the bubble,

like one of the electromagnetic zones.

Look at that.

That resulted in us seeing a large, cigar-shaped UAP

a few hundred feet high near the triangle

that was invisible to the naked eye.

And then, the very next day,

while we continued with the Doppler experiment...

...Cameron and Pete Kelsey saw something

flying below the helicopter near Homestead Two

that looked metallic.

So, are these things coming from the bubble

or from the homesteads or somewhere else?

But we've not only seen

strange things in the sky from afar.

We've also seen them appear to chase our equipment.

Well, Cameron experienced

the same thing following him.

Yeah. We saw a UAP, uh,

under the helicopter, so I'm deeply concerned

with the airspace that I'm sharing.

'Cause I think it could be very dangerous.

Oh, absolutely.

It's one thing to see a UAP

on Skinwalker Ranch, but it's another thing

to see them chase our equipment and especially our team.

Pete's gonna fire up the laser now.

A couple of weeks ago, Cameron was flying

several hundred feet above the triangle

while Pete Kelsey shined a laser down,

looking for a possible source

for where these UAPs generate from.

And then, suddenly, Dave Mason, Jim Royston and Brandon...

-Look at that. -...all saw UAPs

on a thermal camera that appeared to be

stalking the helicopter.

It just makes us all the more convinced

that whatever these UAPs are,

they seem to be possible craft

that are being operated by an intelligence of some kind.

There is something within the space

above the ranch that is active,

intelligent, appears to have volition.

"Effectively" intelligent.

-Yes, yep. -Dr. Puthoff,

do you recall people telling stories,

giving accounts of seeing craft

during your investigation on the ranch?

-Oh, yes. -What were some of those reports?

Well, there were descriptions of...

...and a number of people looking at the same time,

and they would often describe different shapes,

which is really an anomaly...

-Yeah. -...you know, coming down,

going into the mesa, coming out.

-So, multiple witnesses. -Multiple witnesses.

-Yeah, one of those incidents was with Robert,

with Colin, uh, me and another individual.

We were all on the back deck of the command center

and looking at that object

that was at the, kind of the tip of the mesa.

-Right, right. -And one of us said,

"Oh, that's pretty cool, that it's a diamond shape."

and the other one's like, "I-I don't see a diamond,

I see a square."

You know, "I see a circle."

So, we were all seeing different shapes.

Yeah, that's exactly what was reported to us

and, you know, we couldn't even begin to imagine

-how that could be. -Absolutely.

Very good. Well,

as fascinating as this discussion has been so far,

we have a special guest joining us.

Jay, you've helped facilitate this discussion.

Right. I'll have him join us on video conference.

This is exciting.

As fascinating as this discussion has been so far,

we have a special guest joining us.

Congressman Tim Burchett, who is standing by.

Yeah, I'm connected, and we'll bring him up.

-All right. Awesome. -Great.

Congressman?

Congressman, welcome.

Well, thank y'all so much for having me on.

Jay, you've helped facilitate

this, uh, discussion with the Congressman.

Definitely. You know, over the last two decades,

I've spent countless hours with Congress,

briefing the UAP topic in an official capacity

on behalf of the U.S. government.

And Congressman Burchett, he is a key driver

within Congress to help push much-needed transparency

about everything going on with the phenomenon.

I appreciate that very kind introduction.

In the past,

we've been lucky to have members of the Utah state government

take an interest in our investigation.

But for U.S. Congressman Tim Burchett to meet with us

is absolutely next-level.

Based on what members of our military

and other national security agencies

have encountered in the skies,

he's gone on record that he believes

extraterrestrial life exists.

He also thinks that our government

knows a lot more about it than they've told the public,

and that it all should be disclosed.

Thank you, Congressman.

I'm gonna turn the time

to our principal investigator, Erik Bard.

Yeah, one of the events that we want to show you

is something we refer to as the in-and-out incident.

Okay.

I'll proceed with the video record frame by frame.

-It's right here. -Yep. Okay.

Travis, would you like to describe to the Congressman

-what we're seeing here? -Yeah, uh, Congressman,

we were conducting an experiment,

and the helicopter was probably

a couple hundred feet in the air.

What's happening here, Tim, is you see this bright object

off to the east, a bluish-white orb,

and it flies at a fairly high velocity

directly into the solid-rock mesa.

And so, we call that the "in point."

Right.

And then we see it exits right there,

just below the helicopter,

flies underneath the helicopter

and then literally just vanishes.

I've been briefed in the past

by a pilot who described something very similar to this.

There's gonna be a scientific explanation to this.

Maybe it's not within the realm of our understanding.

And frankly, we just need to get to the bottom of it.

Yeah.

It's wild to hear

that this possible craft we documented on the ranch

lines up with official accounts of strange encounters

given by members of our own military.

And it just goes to show how important Skinwalker Ranch is

to understanding UAPs.

We want the American people and the world to realize

that these things are real phenomenon,

that we don't know what they are

and where they come from and what their intent is.

What I've said in the past is that

I would prefer it to be from folks like you all

in the scientific community,

the funding would be there for them to research it

and to, and to report to us on a regular basis.

I think it would open some new thought processes

-and maybe some new avenues. -Absolutely.

You know, we've talked about

things coming into our airspace,

but there's another aspect to this.

We are seeing what looks like technological interference

with all of our platforms.

Notably, GPS, or "Global Positioning" technology.

Yeah, all of our instrumentation,

so we could tell where we're getting the data measured,

has GPS trackers connected to it.

Whether we're doing ground-penetrating radar

to look underneath the surface,

whether we're flying the helicopter

with instruments on it,

whether we're just walking around

or driving around the property with instruments,

we have GPS systems on them that are supposed to be

centimeter-accurate,

and when we start to collect some of the data

that's of most interest,

suddenly, the GPS will see

that there are 31 satellites above

but cannot get a GPS fix,

and it can't tell us our location.

So, there is clearly a technological interaction

taking place.

Whether it's humans doing it or something else doing it,

I don't know, but that's scary when you think about

how many things in our culture depend on GPS.

And I think that's a national security issue.

That's exactly right.

Congressman, we have also encountered at Skinwalker Ranch

a high frequency of covert military assets deployed

simultaneous with much of our

experimental research activities.

Erik is going to show you what we have encountered.

Here's an example.

For context, this video is from 2023.

I'll go ahead and play this through.

Probably a hundred feet from the top of the mesa.

That's clearly not a commercial aircraft.

Clearly not a high-altitude flight.

-No. -Right. And that was

very close to the-the surface.

-Yeah. -Low-altitude

military assets,

in nearly every case, non-transponding.

In other words, cloaking their identity.

-I don't think it's coincidental. -Right.

Yeah. And I'd like to state,

when you're flying over a civilian area,

such as this area,

you're not in r-restricted airspace,

so you're supposed to, by law,

have your transponders on, as a safety issue.

So, we can't understand

how they are justifying these continuous flyovers.

It just begs the question,

is it in coordination with the UAP activity,

or are they researching that UAP activity?

Yes, and we believe

that that is just the tip of the iceberg

relative to the high strangeness

that is happening and being monitored

by even our own government.

The longer I serve at the federal level,

the more layers to this onion I see need to be peeled back,

and I think y'all have opened up s-some questions that I have,

and I'll be following up with the Pentagon about this.

To have Congressman Burchett say

that he'll look into what we're finding at the ranch

with officials at the Pentagon is huge.

We need more allies within our government to help us.

So, this could be a very important development

for our investigation.

We really appreciate your attention

to these matters, Congressman.

We'd like to invite you, at your convenience,

to come out to Skinwalker Ranch

to see firsthand what we are documenting.

I'd be honored to be out there.

I would love to go out there and scratch

a little of that dirt with y'all.

Thank you, Congressman. We'll let you go.

-Thank you, sir. -Thank y'all very much.

Tim joining us was monumental, right?

-I mean... -I think it speaks volumes

that he says he's been briefed on phenomena

that looked a lot like some of the things we showed him.

Uh, which-which is outside of our investigation.

Yeah. I really hope it leads to answers

about what the government might know about this place.

Travis, you know, speaking of that,

Pete Kelsey has alerted me about a discovery he made

on top of the mesa that might shed some light.

All right, awesome.

I've actually connected with him, and I'd like

-to bring him up now. -Please.

Greetings, Pete Kelsey. Thank you for joining us.

Hey, everyone. Good to see you.

We're anxious to see what you have to present.

All right, so, during our drilling operation

this year on top of the mesa,

one of the things that I did

was conduct multiple surveys with lidar.

Well, during the last one, I noticed something interesting

-sticking out of the ground.

This is, uh, incredible.

One mystery on the ranch that only got stronger this year

is the huge, possibly metallic object

and several smaller anomalies

that data suggest are buried in the mesa.

We drilled four large-diameter boreholes

that we thought would hit the main object

based on previous ground-penetrating radar scans.

We're far enough down that hole

that we should have hit what we were looking for.

That just doesn't make any sense to me.

But every single one of them missed it.

That was really frustrating,

especially since our smaller drilling operation last year

recovered ceramic materials

that might be related to spacecraft.

So, we're beyond curious to see what Pete found

on top of the mesa.

When I was out surveying

on top of the mesa,

I came across a permanent survey marker

that had been left there many years ago.

Here is that survey marker.

This one is labeled "USB,"

as in "bravo."

So, I did a little digging, and it turns out

that is an indicator

for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

The Department of Defense.

How about that?

And the key thing is-- I hope you guys can read the date.

It's 1963.

Are you kidding me?

That's interesting, as it relates

to the 1964 nickel

that Chris pulled out of the tailings.

That's crazy.

Besides the ceramic material

we pulled out of the mesa last year...

U.S. nickel.

...we also found a 1964 nickel

in our drilling spoils.

At first, we just shrugged.

But then archaeologist Chris Roberts informed us

that it's general practice and protocol

to conclude an official archaeological dig

by leaving a coin in the backfill

to serve as a time stamp.

That gives us a period to look through records.

That made Erik and me decide to look through aerial photos

from government archives that were taken in the 1960s

to look for any evidence of digging on the mesa.

Guess what.

The photos from 1964 through 1968 were missing.

And when we compared one from 1963 to another from 1969,

the 1969 photo looked doctored.

So, somebody was surveying

in 1963

at the top of the mesa, right at the northern boundary

of Skinwalker Ranch.

That means whoever placed this monument

was only interested in what was south

of the boundary line.

I'm in a state of shock, because, uh, to have

a survey marker right on top of the mesa

within close proximity to where all of our drilling activity

and some of the-the strangest anomalies have been occurring,

and it's within that date range where...

all aerial imagery of the ranch disappeared from the record.

So, this is by the drill site?

Uh, yes.

This is only about 100 meters north

of the mesa drill site.

Man, that, that's a...

that's certainly a smoking gun.

Could this survey marker be evidence

connecting the U.S. Department of Defense

to a possible excavation

where we've detected these objects in the mesa?

And if so, what did they find

that made them go to such lengths

to possibly cover it up?

Thank you, Pete Kelsey.

We appreciate all of your great work at Skinwalker Ranch.

Thank you, Brandon.

As we all know,

studying what's going on inside the mesa

is one of our main objectives, and Jan,

I know you have some things to reveal to this group,

-some form of data. -I do.

Another thing that makes us believe

there could be something really incredible in the mesa

is what Jan's GPR scans have shown this year.

After he ran one set

of new scans inside Borehole 1,

which runs through the mesa to the east

of the buried anomalies,

something in the mesa warped his GPR signal,

preventing him from getting any data at all.

Like whatever's in there

is operating on some kind of advanced technology.

That made Jan redesign his device to encrypt his signal

and shield it from interference.

And after that scan in Borehole 1,

the data confirmed the objects were right where we drilled.

That makes it even more unbelievable

that all our vertical boreholes this year missed the big object.

We're ready.

So, last week,

Jan returned to conduct one last round of scans

from inside the first of our new vertical boreholes.

It was drilled right in line

with horizontal Borehole 2

where we hit something incredibly hard

about 33 feet down, which stopped the borehole.

That's also where we found the ceramics.

All we can hope now is that this new data

will show us where we need to drill next

to finally figure out just what in the heck is in there.

So, I want to show you some new data that we got.

What's really interesting is when we look at

the south wall on the borehole.

What I want you to look at is this anomaly right here.

That is absolutely characteristic of a void,

which is what the end of a borehole would be.

-So, that's the end of Borehole 2? -Yes.

But here's the weird part.

The depth is actually only at about

18 to 20 feet.

Really?

Not 33 feet.

-So, now explain that.

It suggests that, uh,

we're looking in the wrong place.

This is mind-boggling.

Jan's new scans, taken from inside the vertical borehole,

are showing that our drilling operation last year

in Borehole 2 didn't stop 33 feet from the surface,

but instead at a much shallower depth of around 20 feet.

So, is Jan's new GPR device wrong

or was the drilling beacon from last year interfered with?

Because it showed that Borehole 2

stopped at 33 feet deep.

Either way, it looks like whatever is

inside the mesa messed with our instruments again.

This has been a really vexing issue,

trying to figure out where we are.

We have something going on here that's like

an active stealth application.

You have stealth by design,

you have stealth by application.

You know, design is throwing off things

that interfere with the signal.

So, what or who designed whatever's in there?

So, what or who designed whatever's in there?

It's exactly like a missile system

that is a-a jammer for GPS.

It basically sends signals out that causes

any GPS systems to think they're somewhere else.

And how many times do we see that

-on Skinwalker Ranch? -Yep.

-Yep. -Right? -Well, this could be

part of why we're seeing covert military assets

-deployed over Skinwalker Ranch. -Right.

Whatever is in the mesa

seems to have a similar capability

as our own military defense systems

that can jam enemy radar

and do things like make our vehicles

impossible to track or locate.

So, after all the strange clues we've found

around and in the mesa drill site,

could that mean there's something connected

to our military buried in there?

Or is it something much stranger that our military

and government have known about for decades?

Dr. Puthoff,

when you launched your investigation

with Robert Bigelow decades ago,

did you have any suspicion that there was

something unusual in the mesa?

No, this is, this is a new revelation.

We-we didn't, uh, think of that option at the time.

You didn't have the technology available at the time, right?

-Exactly. -This could be

a conglomeration of some very complex piece

of equipment that has been distributed,

-maybe through a crash, there at the mesa.

So, uh, until we either get more of it

or some other test that we can do

without d-damaging it,

we have to be very cautious.

And then the obvious question is

-how did it get there? -Right.

And how do we get better images

or data from inside the mesa?

-Yes. -Yeah, there's, uh, other technologies

that we can bring to bear as well.

I'm thinking of the, uh, work done by the Italian group

led by Dr. Filippo Biondi

that, uh, used satellite synthetic aperture radar

to look at the ground underneath the pyramids

there in Giza.

The technology is really fascinating.

-Yeah. -Erik and I,

-we've been talking to him. -Yeah, I've connected

with Dr. Biondi, and he is waiting for us now.

-I'll bring him up. -Very good.

Hello, Dr. Biondi. How are you?

-Fine, thank you. And you? -Ah, doing great.

In March 2025,

Dr. Filippo Biondi and his colleagues

from the Khafre Project team

reported the discovery of extensive

pillar-like structures hidden beneath

the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt.

They discovered it using Dr. Biondi's cutting-edge method

of analyzing satellite-based

synthetic aperture radar imagery,

also known as H-SAR.

We're really interested in the technology.

So, uh, tell us a little bit about how it works

and what you would need to do that.

Okay.

Just from everyday human activity

and things in nature like weather,

the surface of the Earth is constantly vibrating.

When a satellite flies over taking radar data,

those vibrations slightly alter the radar signal

that bounces back up.

Dr. Biondi's team has figured out

how to use that information to scan for voids

and structures deep underground.

This is how they imaged all the possible structures

under the Great Pyramid in Egypt.

So, it would be incredibly interesting

to see what it might show us in the mesa

and below Skinwalker Ranch.

What's the maximum depth you think you can see

with this technology?

-So, that's up to three miles deep. -Yes.

That sounds fascinating.

You know, we've got objects, potentially,

underneath the property here,

-Yes. -and, uh, it would be great

-if we got any kind of return to verify these things.

We would really like to see

that technology brought to bear here,

uh, in Utah at Skinwalker Ranch.

-Great. -So, all you need, then,

is for us to commission, uh, data from

-a satellite that will pass over the ranch? -Yeah.

-Yes. -Now, once you get the data,

how long does it take you to do the analysis

and all the-the number crunching to get, uh, the results?

That sounds great.

We're very excited to engage with you,

and, uh, we really appreciate your, uh,

your availability, Doctor.

Thank you.

Dr. Biondi, thank you very much. Uh,

we're looking forward to, uh,

getting moving on this and seeing some of the data results.

We'll be in touch.

-Thank you. -It's nice meeting you.

-Ciao.

That's awesome.

What could possibly be better?

What an incredible year.

As we look forward to the future

and we close the chapter on this last year,

I would love for us to set up

the next phase of experiments and our work in the mesa.

Yeah, I think it's imperative

that we-we continue to probe

and experiment with the bubble boundary and the triangle.

-Yes. -Yep.

And the possibility of the bubble connecting

distant places on the ranch.

We need to identify what we're dealing with

-at these locations. -Yeah.

And we want to connect with others

investigating similar types of UAPs

-and push for more transparency. -Yeah.

The exploration

has been going on for many, many years,

and I feel like we're making extraordinary progress.

-Absolutely. -Dr. Puthoff,

as the senior science advisor,

and the one with the longest tenure at Skinwalker Ranch,

do you have advice as we open this next chapter?

Well, the thing that I have seen--

which has been the movement from where we were

when we did investigate the ranch

with, uh, Bigelow's, uh, assets and so on--

and then to see how you've brought in such a team of people

and increased the kinds of equipment

that you've, uh, brought to bear,

I mean, I'm absolutely in-in awe

of what you and your team have, uh, brought to this.

So, uh, all I can do is say, you know, I-I...

vote for you to continue, uh, doing what you're doing

because you're actually making... making a difference.

-Thank you. -Awesome.

Well, I love this team.

We, uh, we've become like family over the years.

I don't think anyone anticipated the journey that would unfold.

And I think we're just finally getting

not only some real answers

or, at least, being guided toward the answers,

but, uh, we have the world watching.

I applaud everyone's efforts,

and I-I challenge you to continue,

uh, to map out the way forward to help us get the answers.

-Absolutely. -All right.

Congratulations on an incredible year at Skinwalker Ranch.

-Thank you, Brandon. -Thank you.

I want to understand

the nature and agenda of the phenomenon.

I don't think any of us is content

to let the mystery at the ranch remain a secret.

What lies both above and beneath the property

is a continued focus

of our efforts as we map out

the future of this most unique investigation.

Our experiments this year

pushed the boundaries and expanded on everything

we thought we knew about Skinwalker Ranch.

And I believe our work has never been more timely

than it is right now.

The mysteries we're investigating

are the same ones being routinely discussed everywhere,

from the general public to the most classified meetings

of government officials.

So, I think we owe it to ourselves and the whole world

to keep on going until we find the answers.