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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,730 Whiskey. 2 00:00:13,810 --> 00:00:15,440 Where's Oliver? 3 00:00:17,060 --> 00:00:18,820 Oliver. Come on. 4 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,580 I helped pick the winners. 5 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:31,580 I gave some tickets to some friends of mine... 6 00:00:31,660 --> 00:00:34,750 And family members who needed it. 7 00:00:38,090 --> 00:00:41,340 I wanted them happy, so 8 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,090 I gave them things. 9 00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:49,390 I was gonna get the million dollars, but I gave them to my father. 10 00:00:49,470 --> 00:00:51,180 And 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,020 maybe if certain things never happened... 12 00:00:59,230 --> 00:01:03,530 This Monopoly thing would still be on today. 13 00:01:03,610 --> 00:01:05,450 It's true. 14 00:01:41,770 --> 00:01:46,200 MCMILLIONS 15 00:02:15,890 --> 00:02:19,690 With Shamrock Productions and the "reunion of winners", 16 00:02:19,850 --> 00:02:24,480 I think some of them are legendary, in terms of what was captured on film. 17 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:30,280 Like Buddy Fisher and Mr. Hoover. 18 00:02:30,860 --> 00:02:34,870 Gloria Brown was an instant million-dollar winner. 19 00:02:34,950 --> 00:02:37,830 She had won in South Carolina. 20 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,960 Gloria had said her address was in the Hilton Head area of South Carolina, 21 00:02:47,050 --> 00:02:50,800 but she was from Jacksonville, Florida. 22 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,010 There was always something that I was trying to drive out. 23 00:02:54,180 --> 00:02:58,930 I was trying to expand the BS that they were trying to put out there, 24 00:02:59,020 --> 00:03:04,230 because I know AUSA Devereaux needs a ground ball, boy needs something easy. 25 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:08,650 I'm kidding. He's good at his job. 26 00:03:10,150 --> 00:03:14,200 It has been a decade, but I enjoyed it. First time, yes. 27 00:03:14,370 --> 00:03:17,950 So, when you were in South Carolina, what kind of work did you do there? 28 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,370 - I was unemployed at that time... - Oh, you were unemployed? 29 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:25,500 But I am a social worker. I just was taking a break from... 30 00:03:26,710 --> 00:03:30,920 ...stress. I'm not doing it anymore, thank God. 31 00:03:31,010 --> 00:03:33,390 - So, you were a social worker here? - Yeah. 32 00:03:33,470 --> 00:03:36,600 Did you have family up in South Carolina? Why did you move up there? 33 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,890 No, most of my family's here. I had a friend, personal friend 34 00:03:40,980 --> 00:03:43,600 and another friend, a couple of friends there, that... 35 00:03:43,690 --> 00:03:48,400 Basically what I was doing was a lot of visiting, job searching at that time... 36 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,860 You know, trying to relocate. 37 00:03:49,940 --> 00:03:52,360 One thing that struck me was that 38 00:03:52,450 --> 00:03:58,910 Ms. Brown wasn't as open and friendly as Mr. Hoover was. 39 00:03:58,990 --> 00:04:01,960 She seemed to be on guard, 40 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,040 whether or not she suspected something was awry or not. 41 00:04:07,210 --> 00:04:11,720 She just wasn't as forthcoming. 42 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,260 What I'd like you to do, Gloria, is take us through what a normal day 43 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:19,350 was for you, in Hilton Head. 44 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:23,640 We wanna show these are regular people that are winning this money. 45 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:25,940 - It's a family place. - Yes. 46 00:04:26,020 --> 00:04:32,610 Well, in Hilton Head, during that time, I was living with a friend, of course, 47 00:04:32,690 --> 00:04:38,450 and trying to job hunt. And right now, I have my own agenda. 48 00:04:38,530 --> 00:04:42,580 I have my patients to care for. 49 00:04:42,660 --> 00:04:47,540 I'm busy. Today, I'm taking a trip and... 50 00:04:47,630 --> 00:04:52,510 Day to day, I work seven days a week, basically I'm on call all the time. 51 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:56,930 So, compared to back then and to now, 52 00:04:57,010 --> 00:05:02,220 I would say that McDonald's have made it so that 53 00:05:02,310 --> 00:05:06,690 I can just lie without any stress. 54 00:05:06,770 --> 00:05:10,980 - So, how long did you live there for? - A little over a year, back and forth. 55 00:05:11,070 --> 00:05:14,440 Many of the winners were saying they lived in one area, 56 00:05:14,530 --> 00:05:18,320 but then, had a post office box where they would have their winnings sent to, 57 00:05:18,490 --> 00:05:20,780 so they would set up fake addresses. 58 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:25,500 A lot of the evidence that I was gathering was around where they lived, 59 00:05:25,580 --> 00:05:29,840 exactly what store they won the McDonald's Monopoly piece at. 60 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,670 Doug, anything else we need to get about South Carolina for the story? 61 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,510 So, I said, 62 00:05:35,670 --> 00:05:38,340 "Gloria, do you remember the McDonald's where you went to claim the prize?" 63 00:05:38,430 --> 00:05:40,180 "Absolutely. This is a picture." 64 00:05:40,260 --> 00:05:43,020 We took a picture of it and put it on this board. 65 00:05:43,100 --> 00:05:46,180 Then she said, "Oh, my God, that's exactly the one." 66 00:05:46,270 --> 00:05:49,980 And I said, "You know what, can you autograph that for us?" 67 00:05:50,060 --> 00:05:52,150 If you could just write, "Thanks, McDonald's." 68 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:54,400 - No, thanks a million. - Thanks a million. 69 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,410 That's good. Thanks a million. That's good. And then, sign it. 70 00:05:59,490 --> 00:06:03,660 That picture that she signed, it was not in Hilton Head, South Carolina. 71 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:06,290 It was Jacksonville, Florida. 72 00:06:06,370 --> 00:06:11,040 Gloria, do you recall the person that you spoke to at the counter when you... 73 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:14,340 No, I sure don't. 74 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:17,220 The fake address was a part of the scheme. 75 00:06:17,380 --> 00:06:22,260 Rick had this surveillance photo of a McDonald's right there in Jacksonville. 76 00:06:22,430 --> 00:06:26,100 And I go, "Oh, my God, that's perfect." 77 00:06:26,180 --> 00:06:29,480 So I take it with me. "What are you gonna do?" I said, "I'm gonna use it. 78 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,150 Wait and see. I'm gonna show you." 79 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,240 And as she's doing it, Amy, she's like, 80 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,620 "Oh, my God, that's just... That's not it." 81 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:45,410 And I'm looking over, starting to get louder, 82 00:06:45,490 --> 00:06:50,500 and I'm like, I'm looking back at her, "Do you want that here? 83 00:06:50,580 --> 00:06:52,170 They're almost... you can hear that." 84 00:06:52,330 --> 00:06:55,050 That's perfect, thank you so much. 85 00:06:56,550 --> 00:07:00,430 Every time I talk to them, they would just lie, lie, lie. 86 00:07:00,510 --> 00:07:05,140 And it was perfect for the FBI because it was really building evidence. 87 00:07:05,310 --> 00:07:08,520 But we also wanted to make sure that it seemed like we were having fun, 88 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,900 because once again, that's how it would be at a real shoot. 89 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:16,530 Now, what I want you to do is take us through... "I got my million dollars 90 00:07:16,610 --> 00:07:20,740 and I took it to this McDonald's in Hilton Head, South Carolina. 91 00:07:20,820 --> 00:07:25,160 And it made me..." Then stand up real slowly and point to your star. 92 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,580 Okay. 93 00:07:26,660 --> 00:07:29,290 Doug brought a lot of that energy. 94 00:07:29,370 --> 00:07:31,710 I know it sounds cheesy, but... 95 00:07:31,790 --> 00:07:35,000 It looks good when you cut it together. Here you are up here. 96 00:07:35,090 --> 00:07:39,260 We loved doing goofy stuff. We can't help ourselves. 97 00:07:39,340 --> 00:07:42,090 That's typical Mathews. That's what he would do. 98 00:07:42,180 --> 00:07:44,140 Thanks a million, McDonald's. 99 00:07:44,220 --> 00:07:45,970 Okay. Look right in the camera and say it right there. 100 00:07:46,050 --> 00:07:48,010 Thanks a million, McDonald's. 101 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:52,100 And it was hard sometimes to keep a straight face, to be honest with you. 102 00:07:52,190 --> 00:07:57,070 It was very hard, what we were doing with the light meter or the camera, 103 00:07:57,150 --> 00:08:00,150 or in sitting them and fixing them up, we had no idea. 104 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,740 I got my McDonald's millions... million at Hilton Head in South Carolina. 105 00:08:05,820 --> 00:08:07,870 And it made me a... 106 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,790 millionaire. 107 00:08:11,870 --> 00:08:13,210 That's cute. 108 00:08:13,290 --> 00:08:15,670 - Now, pretty close. - Pretty close. Okay. 109 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:20,510 What I figured out in an early age in the bureau is you push it, 110 00:08:20,590 --> 00:08:22,760 and then, you think it's... you keep pushing. 111 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,470 You never know when you're gonna hit a wall. I never found the bottom. 112 00:08:26,550 --> 00:08:31,140 The bottomless was tea glass, right? It's perfect for me. Just keep going. 113 00:08:31,220 --> 00:08:33,350 And, of course, she did. 114 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,600 Ronald and I was... Ro... 115 00:08:35,690 --> 00:08:38,820 That's okay. No problem. Take your time. 116 00:08:39,690 --> 00:08:44,240 Ronald and I will see you in Vegas. Thank you, McDonald's. 117 00:08:45,740 --> 00:08:49,780 See, she's a pro. She's good. 118 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:55,500 We knew it was such good evidence, having Gloria sitting here 119 00:08:55,670 --> 00:09:00,750 just making the story up, and doing it with this fake sincerity. 120 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,970 As a criminal investigator, it was an awesome thing to behold. 121 00:09:06,050 --> 00:09:11,100 There were so many different layers of the conspiracy we were investigating, 122 00:09:11,180 --> 00:09:14,310 and the more sophisticated a scheme, 123 00:09:14,390 --> 00:09:18,020 the more difficult it is to prosecute the case. 124 00:09:18,190 --> 00:09:22,070 Now you have actual video production that you can show a jury 125 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:24,190 that's very powerful. 126 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,280 By this time, 127 00:09:28,450 --> 00:09:32,330 literally almost the whole office now, or a big majority of them, 128 00:09:32,410 --> 00:09:37,080 have been diverted to work on what we call Operation Final Answer. 129 00:09:39,710 --> 00:09:42,630 We worked seven days a week on a regular basis. 130 00:09:42,710 --> 00:09:44,670 But at times, it did not feel like work. 131 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,890 You had great camaraderie between all of the agents that were working it, 132 00:09:48,970 --> 00:09:51,550 and we knew the mission is, what we were trying to accomplish, 133 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,270 was a noble one and a good one. So, nobody ever complained about it. 134 00:09:59,350 --> 00:10:04,820 Things were moving fast. And naturally, we always want to move at our pace. 135 00:10:04,900 --> 00:10:07,530 We wanna control the timing of things, 136 00:10:07,610 --> 00:10:10,410 and we did not have that luxury. The game was running, 137 00:10:10,490 --> 00:10:14,370 the clock was running on how long we could keep it a secret. 138 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:19,420 Throughout this, we were really, really racking up incredible evidence. 139 00:10:19,500 --> 00:10:23,800 Discovering new people, proving all elements of what was going on. 140 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,630 And we kind of knew the process of how these were placed, 141 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:28,800 but the one thing that was still out there 142 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,390 was how is Jerry Jacobson doing this? 143 00:10:32,470 --> 00:10:37,480 That was kind of this nagging question mark. 144 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,060 What we had to vet out here is, who was helping Jerry? 145 00:10:44,570 --> 00:10:47,650 Hilda Bennett was the CPA that would travel 146 00:10:47,820 --> 00:10:51,990 with Mr. Jacobson to these various manufacturing plants 147 00:10:52,070 --> 00:10:55,620 and we didn't know, are they in cahoots? 148 00:10:57,250 --> 00:11:00,330 On an investigation, you just don't cut somebody out. 149 00:11:00,420 --> 00:11:05,590 And so, we had to surveil Ms. Bennett as well. 150 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:16,140 - You want cheese? - Yup. 151 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:19,930 Hi, I need to get a large coffee 152 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:24,900 with ten cream and five sugar. 153 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:27,280 - Anything else? - Yup. Another large coffee... 154 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,900 - With ten cream and five Equal. - Okay. 155 00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:32,530 - That is Equal? - Yup. 156 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:35,830 - Thank you. Have a great day. - Thank you. 157 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,700 Oh, it's perfect. 158 00:11:41,830 --> 00:11:45,000 The one time I've seen Uncle Jerry was up in Georgia. 159 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,170 My brother went to go and visit. I stayed in the car. 160 00:11:49,260 --> 00:11:52,880 I didn't get out of the car because he didn't directly involve me, 161 00:11:52,970 --> 00:11:55,350 because he was always trying to protect me. 162 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:57,970 But giving you a little taste at the same time. 163 00:11:58,060 --> 00:12:00,350 I guess so. Yeah, yeah. 164 00:12:03,770 --> 00:12:05,610 Uncle Jerry was a middle-aged guy. 165 00:12:05,690 --> 00:12:09,440 Just normal average height, normal average build. But 166 00:12:09,610 --> 00:12:13,990 size doesn't matter. Like my dad always used to say and still does say, 167 00:12:14,070 --> 00:12:18,530 as long as this works, that's all I need. One finger. And it's the truth. 168 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:23,460 - And the family that's backing you. - And the family. That's a big thing. 169 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:29,130 Jerome was getting the tickets. 170 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:33,510 But when it came to... dispersing the tickets 171 00:12:33,590 --> 00:12:36,590 I don't think he had the resources 172 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:39,970 to do the big one-million-dollar hits everywhere. 173 00:12:40,060 --> 00:12:44,100 I think that's where my brother took the reins of everything. 174 00:12:44,190 --> 00:12:49,270 So, Uncle Jerry was getting the tickets and selling them to my brother. 175 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,240 And then, my brother would sell them to other people. 176 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,700 And it was just, literally, it was a monopoly of scams. 177 00:12:57,870 --> 00:13:00,410 THE DEAL 178 00:13:00,490 --> 00:13:03,160 Every ticket was a little different. 179 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:06,920 The agreement with Uncle Jerry was depending on the value of the ticket. 180 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,250 The million-dollar tickets were going for 50 grand. 181 00:13:09,340 --> 00:13:15,800 Uncle Jerry would get the 50, and my brother would get half of whoever won. 182 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,050 And so, if they got the payments for 20 years and so forth, he'd get half, 183 00:13:20,140 --> 00:13:21,350 and then, the winner would get half. 184 00:13:21,430 --> 00:13:26,640 So it was a better deal for my brother, long-term, than it was for Uncle Jerry. 185 00:13:34,820 --> 00:13:38,990 I really didn't think much of it because someone had to win. 186 00:13:39,070 --> 00:13:41,870 So, in my brother's eyes, it was, 187 00:13:41,950 --> 00:13:46,580 "Instead of Joe Schmoe winning, I'm gonna make John Schmoe win." 188 00:13:46,750 --> 00:13:51,590 The money is still gonna go somewhere. He was just redirecting it. 189 00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:54,880 The one-million-dollar ticket was supposed to be our wedding gift. 190 00:13:55,050 --> 00:13:58,260 We were married November 24, 1997. 191 00:13:58,340 --> 00:14:01,720 - 1996. - 1996. 192 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,100 Let's start that over again. Cut that. Cut that. 193 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:09,100 Oops. I'm getting my ass kicked tonight. Okay. 194 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:13,360 But that was gonna be our gift, a wedding gift, free of charge. 195 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,530 We didn't have to buy it. 196 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,410 The McDonald's piece was end one of the little, I guess, you'd call them eggs, 197 00:14:21,490 --> 00:14:24,080 like you kids get toys in the gumball machines. 198 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,870 It was in there in the back of the freezer, underneath two ice cube trays. 199 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,630 I remember exactly how it sat. 200 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:33,790 - It was just chilling. - It was just chilling. 201 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,470 I always looked up to my brother, he was my protector, pretty much. 202 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:42,800 He would always come to visit me and throw me a couple thousand dollars, 203 00:14:42,970 --> 00:14:47,060 it was me giving away a couple dollars to the kids. 204 00:14:47,230 --> 00:14:51,850 This is our son Frankie, he dropped about a 150,000 thousand dollars, 205 00:14:51,940 --> 00:14:54,860 and we just decided to take a picture, it was kind of funny. 206 00:14:54,940 --> 00:14:56,650 I was so upset over that picture. 207 00:14:56,730 --> 00:15:00,240 Because it was such dirty money around such a clean perfect baby. 208 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,950 It was pretty crazy, but with that comes a price. 209 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:12,540 Put it this way. Uncle Jerry calling my home at least three times a week, 210 00:15:12,630 --> 00:15:14,840 to tell Jerry what we had to do next. 211 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,760 And he and I will talk sometimes 30 minutes, and most 45 minutes 212 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,510 and my husband would meet him in Atlanta. 213 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,190 I don't know how many people he hooked up. 214 00:15:31,270 --> 00:15:33,650 It was way more than I thought it was. 215 00:15:33,730 --> 00:15:36,480 My brother had a lot of connections all over the place 216 00:15:36,570 --> 00:15:39,900 because he had night clubs and certain things he was doing 217 00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:44,240 that I can't mention because the FBI's gonna watch this tape someday. 218 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,910 But there was a lot of things that he was in to. 219 00:15:46,990 --> 00:15:50,040 So my brother started expanding to 220 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,420 in-laws, and brother-in-laws, and friends, and friends of friends 221 00:15:54,580 --> 00:16:00,380 and that's how he took this little small operation, and made it huge. 222 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,600 I was working at the airlines in Jacksonville here, 223 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,560 and a passenger came for a name Colombo. 224 00:16:11,730 --> 00:16:16,230 Right off the bat, he was very personable and a gentleman. 225 00:16:17,730 --> 00:16:22,450 My last name was Italian, so he seemed to take a liking to me. 226 00:16:22,530 --> 00:16:25,700 First thing he said to me was like, "Here's some money go eat. Go eat." 227 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:29,450 And I just thought that was so funny because that's how Italians are, 228 00:16:29,540 --> 00:16:34,710 and it just made me feel at ease with him, that this is a good person. 229 00:16:36,290 --> 00:16:39,670 I never knew he was married, I didn't really care because I didn't really 230 00:16:39,750 --> 00:16:44,680 have any relationship on that level in my mind, anyways. 231 00:16:47,550 --> 00:16:50,810 One day, we were just driving around, and he says, 232 00:16:50,970 --> 00:16:53,310 "I wanna show you something." So we pulled over... 233 00:16:56,690 --> 00:17:01,480 And he reaches around the backseat, and he pulls out the winning pieces. 234 00:17:01,570 --> 00:17:04,240 It was, like, the whole thing, it's a hundred thousand dollars. 235 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,700 And I was like, "Wow. So many people are trying to win this thing 236 00:17:07,780 --> 00:17:11,660 and you're sitting here with all four pieces." 237 00:17:11,830 --> 00:17:15,710 "If you're interested," he says, "just walk in McDonald's, 238 00:17:15,790 --> 00:17:19,540 and this is what you got to do, and this is it how it rolls." 239 00:17:19,710 --> 00:17:24,970 He goes, "I'll give you 20,000 now, and another 10,000 later." 240 00:17:25,050 --> 00:17:27,510 And I thought, "Wow, that's a lot of money." 241 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:30,970 I could go buy me a car, I could go do some stuff... 242 00:17:31,060 --> 00:17:34,770 Because back then I'm working at the airlines, what am I making? 243 00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:39,100 10 dollars an hour, and I was game for something exhilarating. 244 00:17:42,570 --> 00:17:47,860 So, he had me fly to Philly. Being with the airlines, I could do that. 245 00:17:48,030 --> 00:17:52,370 And he picked me up at the airport, we drove right to McDonald's 246 00:17:52,450 --> 00:17:56,410 and I didn't have to think for myself. Just follow the script. 247 00:17:56,500 --> 00:17:58,790 And that's exactly what I did. 248 00:17:59,670 --> 00:18:02,670 And I was just like, "I am the winner." 249 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,220 And he's like, "So you're the winner?" 250 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,090 It was just too easy. 251 00:18:13,390 --> 00:18:17,640 But I didn't know the aftermath that was to follow. 252 00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:23,400 Because there was things that nobody knew, and I just kept it all in myself. 253 00:18:30,570 --> 00:18:35,240 My husband, he picked the winners, but he kept picking Italians 254 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:42,000 on the East Coast. They were kind of being stupid about it. 255 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,460 Somebody was bound to get suspicious. So, I told my husband, 256 00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:49,050 "I've got a friend in Jacksonville. 257 00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:53,100 Bring some women into it, and women of color." 258 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,750 My name is Gloria Brown-Byer, 259 00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:25,500 and I live in Jacksonville. I've been here all my life. 260 00:19:28,130 --> 00:19:32,800 I didn't wanna be interviewed anymore. I don't wanna talk to anybody else 261 00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:35,720 about the McDonald's thing. 262 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,350 Because it was... a whole lot. 263 00:19:42,020 --> 00:19:45,860 I was the McDonald's million-dollar winner. 264 00:19:45,940 --> 00:19:52,240 And this is the first time that I had an opportunity 265 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,700 to just say, 266 00:19:53,780 --> 00:19:58,160 "Okay. I'mma lay all my cards on the table and to tell everything." 267 00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:03,210 Even though my sister was there, she don't know all the details. 268 00:20:03,290 --> 00:20:07,670 She'll be hearing this for the first time herself, some of that stuff. 269 00:20:11,420 --> 00:20:15,970 I have a son, and I raised him as a single parent. 270 00:20:16,050 --> 00:20:20,430 He, as a child, was very understanding. We had a relationship, where 271 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,690 if money was not available, I discuss it with him, 272 00:20:23,770 --> 00:20:26,730 and we worked it out together. 273 00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:29,900 I always had to work and I always managed to keep a job, 274 00:20:30,070 --> 00:20:32,070 but it was always a struggle. 275 00:20:33,570 --> 00:20:39,240 Years passed by, and I didn't see Robin for some years, and 276 00:20:39,330 --> 00:20:43,080 when she called me, she told me she had got married. 277 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,580 And thinking maybe now she has somebody that can look out for her, 278 00:20:46,670 --> 00:20:49,750 and she was very happy being with Jerry. 279 00:20:52,170 --> 00:20:55,510 I think it was in '97. Robin had called me and said 280 00:20:55,590 --> 00:21:00,430 she wanted to discuss with me, but we couldn't talk about it over the phone. 281 00:21:00,510 --> 00:21:07,190 So, Jerry asked me to come and visit. It was at their home in South Carolina. 282 00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:09,400 My first impression of Jerry Colombo 283 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,900 was that he was a real-life comedian-type guy and... 284 00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:17,860 He treated me just like I had been around the whole time. 285 00:21:17,950 --> 00:21:23,290 But the things that bothered me is that there was never any time that 286 00:21:23,370 --> 00:21:24,710 she and I could be alone, 287 00:21:24,790 --> 00:21:27,540 even when we went shopping, he went shopping with us. 288 00:21:30,250 --> 00:21:33,710 One night, I just said, "Can you just leave us alone for a few minutes? 289 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,470 Turn, Jerry." 290 00:21:35,550 --> 00:21:38,390 And then, he left us alone, just for a few minutes, and he came back. 291 00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:42,100 We were not allowed to really discuss anything. 292 00:21:46,060 --> 00:21:49,020 Finally, he talked to me about a proposition, 293 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:53,480 and it was a proposition that would help me. 294 00:21:53,570 --> 00:21:57,110 He asked me, "Was I familiar with the McDonald's game piece?" 295 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,240 And I said, "Yes." 296 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,490 So, he said people appear to be winners. 297 00:22:03,660 --> 00:22:07,620 This is how it's always been done. And then, 298 00:22:07,790 --> 00:22:12,500 he told me that he would let me know what the next step was. 299 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,430 When I first got the offer 300 00:22:19,550 --> 00:22:22,050 I thought to myself, 301 00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:25,680 that it was a blessing that came knocking at my door. 302 00:22:27,930 --> 00:22:33,900 And I was going to church and I was trying to do the right thing. 303 00:22:33,980 --> 00:22:37,570 And my son was young. 304 00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:45,160 I was making probably about $24,000 a year. it was just... 305 00:22:46,910 --> 00:22:50,830 By the time taxes and stuff come out, there's really nothing. 306 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:56,300 And I just wanted a better life, and I just feel like this is my opportunity. 307 00:22:56,380 --> 00:23:01,050 And I say, "Well, this couldn't come to me if it wasn't meant for me." 308 00:23:06,260 --> 00:23:10,600 My brother was always joking around, always making people laugh, 309 00:23:10,690 --> 00:23:12,560 very light-hearted. 310 00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:17,400 But if you pissed him off, then he can have a temper as well. 311 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,820 But he never was the type of person who would grab you or threaten you, 312 00:23:21,910 --> 00:23:24,780 or rough you up. You knew, if he looked at you, 313 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:29,290 when he told you exactly what he wanted you to do, you knew you had to do it. 314 00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:37,380 The whole relationship changed. 315 00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:42,430 it got to the point that I didn't talk to Robin anymore. 316 00:23:42,510 --> 00:23:45,760 I only talked to Jerry Colombo. 317 00:23:45,850 --> 00:23:49,810 I finally got the information from him 318 00:23:49,890 --> 00:23:53,230 that I was gonna be a million-dollar winner, 319 00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:58,360 and that he needed me to come up with some money. And I'm asking him, "Why?" 320 00:23:58,530 --> 00:24:03,360 Then he said, "Everybody that wins had to give some upfront money." 321 00:24:03,530 --> 00:24:05,780 And I'm like, "How much?" 322 00:24:07,030 --> 00:24:09,410 And he asked me, how much could I come up with? 323 00:24:09,490 --> 00:24:13,710 I said, "I really don't have any money." So, he said, 324 00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:16,960 "So can you get money off your house?" 325 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,060 Can't back out now, he's told me too much. 326 00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:32,810 I mortgaged my home 327 00:24:32,890 --> 00:24:35,480 to get my upfront money. 328 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:50,950 I put all the stuff I worked hard for on the line, 329 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:56,330 because I believed this was my blessing. 330 00:25:02,010 --> 00:25:05,510 I met him on the side of the road 331 00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:08,680 and gave him my first portion of my money. 332 00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:24,240 It felt like something had just been ripped from me. 333 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,570 To meet somebody on the side of the road 334 00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:30,740 and give them cash money 335 00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:33,950 that much at one time... 336 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:37,000 That's more than I ever had in my hand at one time in my life. 337 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,090 And I just had to give it all away. 338 00:25:40,170 --> 00:25:43,590 I just felt that I just had given my life away 339 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,720 and I'm giving it to somebody I don't know much about. 340 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,510 Can I even trust this guy? 341 00:26:24,460 --> 00:26:28,510 Before my husband was working the Monopoly fraud game, 342 00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:32,510 we had my son, Francesco Gennaro Colombo. 343 00:26:36,770 --> 00:26:38,810 Say hi to the camera, Frankie. 344 00:26:38,890 --> 00:26:40,690 Hi, camera. 345 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:44,650 - Hi, camera. - Bye, camera. 346 00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:46,940 - Easy. - Basketball. 347 00:26:47,030 --> 00:26:49,610 - Basketball. - Yeah, I think he wants... 348 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:52,990 I was at times really very happy. 349 00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:54,580 I had my son, 350 00:26:54,740 --> 00:27:00,540 I have some money. I should've at least been having a good time. 351 00:27:00,710 --> 00:27:04,040 But I was never satisfied ever. 352 00:27:04,130 --> 00:27:07,460 I went from home to home, thinking that one was gonna make it better. 353 00:27:07,550 --> 00:27:11,720 You don't have friends, you can't bring friends in that lifestyle. 354 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,640 Even though I adored my husband, 355 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,100 I found out he had a mistress on the side, 356 00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:25,400 which I guess is a prerequisite of an Italian gangster to have a mistress. 357 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:35,910 I was walking down the hallway to check on Frankie, while he was sleeping, 358 00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:39,250 when I heard my husband on the telephone 359 00:27:39,330 --> 00:27:45,130 saying... some unsavory words to her. 360 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,340 And I barged in, I said, "Who the hell are you talking to?" 361 00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:52,510 Then I took the phone from him 362 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,600 and slammed it across his face. 363 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,680 They did get in a lot of fights. 364 00:27:58,770 --> 00:28:01,770 She would say a lot of mean nasty things to him, 365 00:28:01,850 --> 00:28:05,980 she was very abusive as far as physical, slapping, and so on. 366 00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:08,820 Robin will just try swinging and clawing at him. 367 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:11,610 And he would grab her hands and say, "Stop. Stop. Stop it." 368 00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:22,580 Anytime I threaten to leave him, Uncle Jerry would step in... 369 00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:29,050 Send 15 grand, buy me a car, 370 00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:33,260 whatever to appease me. And... 371 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,050 So I wouldn't leave. 372 00:28:39,890 --> 00:28:43,310 My brother was always making money and he was never home. 373 00:28:43,390 --> 00:28:48,400 He always had an excuse to go somewhere, to go on a business trip. 374 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,820 So I knew he wasn't happy. 375 00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:53,400 During the Monopoly situation 376 00:28:53,570 --> 00:28:58,570 my brother wanted to open up a club in Ladson County, South Carolina. 377 00:28:58,740 --> 00:29:01,660 I believe he was trying to get away from the life of crime 378 00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:05,080 and he was trying to make a legitimate business. 379 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,290 So he opened up a place called the Fuzzy Bunny. 380 00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:11,630 The Fuzzy Bunny opened its doors just a half hour ago, 381 00:29:11,710 --> 00:29:15,590 opening the doors to a steamy controversy. Gurnal? 382 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Debbie, we are here at the Fuzzy Bunny which is located on Highway 78 in Royal 383 00:29:19,890 --> 00:29:23,180 just down the road from the Fairgrounds in Ladson. 384 00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:27,690 And the entertainment and the dancing have begun here at the club. 385 00:29:27,770 --> 00:29:31,150 And he had some dancers. They were wearing bikini tops. 386 00:29:31,230 --> 00:29:33,860 - And pasties and shorts. - It was not full nudity. 387 00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:35,400 He wanted to do classy places. 388 00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:38,360 - He had his morals. - Yeah, he had his morals. 389 00:29:38,530 --> 00:29:43,700 I got girls in Daisy Dukes, Tops. I got volleyball courts being built outside. 390 00:29:43,790 --> 00:29:47,460 I have live concerts here on the weekends. And that's about it really. 391 00:29:47,540 --> 00:29:49,290 He wanted to make a gentleman's club. 392 00:29:49,460 --> 00:29:53,130 His goal was to open up four, five of these all through Hilton Head 393 00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:54,670 and North and South Carolina. 394 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,470 The county kept on fighting him, and fighting him, and fighting him. 395 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:01,470 They kept on shutting him down for this permit, that permit. 396 00:30:01,550 --> 00:30:06,270 - That's not gonna stop you from that? - No. My attorney told me we can... 397 00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:07,980 Whatever we got to do, we're gonna do. 398 00:30:08,060 --> 00:30:11,610 I'm out here trying to earn a living for my family just like you are. 399 00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:13,730 I was proud of him for actually doing something legal for once. 400 00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:16,490 And one time he tried to do something legit. 401 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:19,030 Some people have already trickled into the establishment here. 402 00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:21,820 "Coming Soon, Fuzzy Bunnies". 403 00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:24,240 I hate it so much. 404 00:30:24,330 --> 00:30:29,290 And I told my husband, "I know you. You couldn't just open a club. 405 00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:35,090 You have to try them out." And I told him to stop. 406 00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:38,340 There's an existing court order and the club cannot be opened. 407 00:30:41,220 --> 00:30:44,560 Three months later, I thought he had sold it or whatever. 408 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,390 So no more Fuzzy Bunny. 409 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,650 And then one night, my son and I went out to dinner. 410 00:30:51,730 --> 00:30:56,110 He was like about two years old. We're driving down the road 411 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,530 and I passed Fuzzy Bunny. I looked and there's a bunch of guys and I'm like, 412 00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:02,910 "Damn, there's my car." 413 00:31:02,990 --> 00:31:05,870 I got a little closer and I said, "There's my big, fat husband." 414 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,920 And I turned around and I jumped up on the curb, and... 415 00:31:14,130 --> 00:31:19,170 And Jerry, he was sitting back, a big fat cat on the phone. 416 00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:21,970 And I just punched him right in the jaw. 417 00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:25,720 I said, "You are so divorced." 418 00:31:25,810 --> 00:31:28,600 All the guys are just staying in there and just staring. 419 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,690 And I said, "You're going down. All you motherfuckers are going down. 420 00:31:32,770 --> 00:31:35,730 Every single one of you. I'm going to the FBI." 421 00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:38,980 I said, "I'm going to Witness Protection Program." 422 00:31:39,070 --> 00:31:41,280 I said, "So, just watch out." 423 00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:49,950 So I go to a payphone, I called my parents. 424 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,960 And I said, "Mom, I need you to take two names down. 425 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,380 She goes, "What the hell have you done?" 426 00:31:55,460 --> 00:32:00,130 I said, "Well, I just threatened three goons with the FBI 427 00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:02,880 so if you won't hear from me a couple days, 428 00:32:02,970 --> 00:32:06,050 you are to contact them and give them these names." 429 00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:10,140 And Uncle Jerry was on that list. 430 00:32:11,390 --> 00:32:16,020 They meet me home, my husband and two big-ass goons. 431 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,070 And I said, "This is what I want. 432 00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:23,820 I want a moving truck here and a divorce." 433 00:32:26,030 --> 00:32:30,660 He goes, "Robin, you're never leaving me. There is no divorce. 434 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:33,660 You're stuck with me." 435 00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:38,540 So I called Uncle Jerry. And he says, "You married the wrong guy." 436 00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:42,970 And he asked me to marry him. 437 00:32:43,050 --> 00:32:46,340 - Yeah. - Hold on. Really? 438 00:32:46,430 --> 00:32:48,050 Yeah. 439 00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:54,230 And I told him, "No." And I thought I'm never gonna get out of this. 440 00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:59,480 So, I stayed. But I was a prisoner in my own home. 441 00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:21,590 Jerry Colombo told me that I had to have the South Carolina address. 442 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:26,180 And he had a cousin that lived at this particular spot 443 00:33:26,260 --> 00:33:29,180 and this was gonna be my address. 444 00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:32,970 And at that point, I'm like, "Oh, gosh. 445 00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:36,560 This is what I was expecting." 446 00:33:38,650 --> 00:33:45,240 He coached me on some things I needed to say and work on, and believe. 447 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,370 I had to leave my voice on the voicemail as if it was my home. 448 00:33:49,450 --> 00:33:53,740 Hi, this is Gloria. Leave a message and I'll get back with you. 449 00:33:53,910 --> 00:33:57,210 He made me do it until I got it right. 450 00:33:57,290 --> 00:34:01,340 Well, he wanted the right tone, you know. It had to be happy. 451 00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:07,340 One of the things that constantly crossed my mind is that 452 00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:10,010 my life was in danger. 453 00:34:10,090 --> 00:34:14,770 I had no other option but to take this process through. 454 00:34:16,270 --> 00:34:21,480 Robin knew all of my family and my son. 455 00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:28,400 I kind of felt like I was trapped, that it was no way out but to go through it. 456 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:33,200 When time to turn the game piece in, he picked me up. 457 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,540 Two men, didn't know either one of them. 458 00:34:36,620 --> 00:34:40,330 I almost felt kidnapped in a sense, you know what I'm saying? It's like, 459 00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:45,210 "You're gonna ride with us and you're gonna do what we say. 460 00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,340 And you're gonna do it right." 461 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,180 All the way there, Jerry Colombo never stopped talking, 462 00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:54,430 telling me what to do and what you're gonna say. 463 00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:57,100 He was just drilling me, and how you're gonna do it. 464 00:34:57,270 --> 00:35:03,020 And he drove me to the McDonald's that they had picked out I was gonna go to. 465 00:35:04,940 --> 00:35:07,030 He parked the car in the comer. 466 00:35:07,110 --> 00:35:12,320 The ticket was in a little valve about this tall with a cap on it. 467 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:19,750 There I was walking down this block in a place I had never been before. 468 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:23,710 It was like bank robbery. They on the block there, they don't wanna be seen. 469 00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:26,710 They down the street, the getaway car. 470 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,420 And I'm like, "Oh, Lord this could go so bad." 471 00:35:32,010 --> 00:35:34,600 A lot of things are going through my mind. 472 00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:39,600 Am I gonna lie enough to be believable? 473 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,020 Am I going to mess up and then I'm in trouble? 474 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:50,030 All kind of stuff was... Am I going to jail today behind this foolishness? 475 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:55,320 And then at this point in time, I was about to panic. 476 00:35:55,490 --> 00:36:00,330 And I'm saying to myself, "Oh, Lord Jesus." 477 00:36:00,410 --> 00:36:03,670 I wanted to cry before I got into the place, 478 00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:07,750 and I said, "No, you can't go in there upset." 479 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,800 I had not be Gloria that time. 480 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:15,090 I had to become somebody else to make it believable. 481 00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:23,350 Here we go. 482 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,110 And I had to go in and stand to this counter 483 00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:33,820 and tell them that it looked like I've been a winner. 484 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,870 The manager came out, said, "Have a seat." 485 00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:40,450 And I had to give them my information, 486 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:44,710 the fake telephone number, the fake address. 487 00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:30,500 And then they finally came out and congratulated me. 488 00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:33,590 The manager at the McDonald's, the cashiers, 489 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:39,890 everybody running around happy they got the winner come to their McDonald's. 490 00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:44,520 And there I was, I couldn't even put a smile on my face. 491 00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:53,280 By the time I got back to the car, Jerry Colombo was having a fit. 492 00:37:54,990 --> 00:37:58,110 Because it took too long. 493 00:37:59,070 --> 00:38:02,030 And there he was, as soon as I get in the car, 494 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,910 "Okay. What took you so long?" Then I had explained to him. 495 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,710 "What were you doing all that time?" "I was sitting and waiting, you know?" 496 00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:15,880 "What did they tell you?" So they told me they'd be getting back with me. 497 00:38:18,220 --> 00:38:23,220 I hung around another day and then I came back to Jacksonville. 498 00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:29,020 And went back to work like nothing had happened, and I just had to wait. 499 00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:34,980 They don't wanna see this club open up. 500 00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:38,200 Now anybody in the Ladson knows that place has been about 50 years. 501 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,950 It's been a biker club. It's been a night club. It's been a lounge. 502 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:46,290 My brother would use loophole after loophole, after loophole, 503 00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:49,000 and then he finally came up with one that was saying 504 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:55,210 you can't have female dancers within a thousand feet of a school or something. 505 00:38:55,300 --> 00:39:00,340 So, he turned the Fuzzy Bunny into the Church of Fuzzy Bunny. 506 00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:02,930 The Church of Fuzzy Bunny's... 507 00:39:03,090 --> 00:39:05,510 The transformation of their club into a church. 508 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,640 Dancing girls, alcoholic drinks and the Bible? 509 00:39:09,730 --> 00:39:11,730 Low country preacher say the switch 510 00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:17,320 from Fuzzy Bunny Club to Fuzzy Bunny Church is nothing but blasphemy. 511 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,450 I really honestly didn't see the big deal in it. 512 00:39:20,530 --> 00:39:24,870 I swear. And I'm a woman but I really didn't see the huge deal. 513 00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:27,620 Those two don't mix as far as I'm concerned, 514 00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:31,210 church and strip joints just don't mix. 515 00:39:31,370 --> 00:39:34,500 They can't fool people. No good people is gonna be going in that place. 516 00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:36,540 I don't see nothing with having a place where you can come in, 517 00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:40,590 say a few prayers, have a couple drinks see some women dancing. 518 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,590 He liked to be the center of attention. 519 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,970 And if you messed with him, he would just play that game as long as it took. 520 00:39:47,140 --> 00:39:50,310 Mary Anne, you're next on the line with Jerry Colombo. 521 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:51,810 - Go ahead, Mary Anne. - Yes. 522 00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:56,820 I think what this is an abomination to God. 523 00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:02,280 And it's wrong in the eyes of God. And really, it's wrong in morals, too. 524 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,860 - All right. - Thank you. 525 00:40:04,030 --> 00:40:07,160 God hasn't talked to you lately. He came to me in a dream couple weeks ago 526 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,580 and he told me what I'm doing is fine. 527 00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:13,330 You say that with somewhat of a smirk on your face. You had to have... 528 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:15,460 I did have a dream one night, that's why. 529 00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:18,000 We all have dreams. I don't know if it's divine or religion, but... 530 00:40:18,090 --> 00:40:20,010 This one's divine. 531 00:40:20,170 --> 00:40:22,300 - We never wept. - No. 532 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:24,430 But it sounded like a fun time, though. 533 00:40:24,510 --> 00:40:28,640 - A little prayer, little pasties. - Right? 534 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,020 All the publicity that has come out of this situation with Fuzzy Bunny's 535 00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:37,690 has earned owner Jerry Colombo notice from The National Inquirer, 536 00:40:37,770 --> 00:40:40,780 Comedy Central, the cable channel, and this Friday 537 00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:44,900 he has a scheduled guest appearance for The David Letterman Show. 538 00:40:44,990 --> 00:40:50,370 Do you think that Jerome Jacobson was angry at your Jerry, 539 00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:52,540 for the attention that he was getting for it? 540 00:40:52,620 --> 00:40:55,290 Oh, yeah. Yes. 541 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:57,710 Jerry Colombo won a Dodge Viper. 542 00:40:57,790 --> 00:41:02,550 Jerry Colombo. Jerry Colombo. 543 00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:17,230 This is my first letter of congratulation. 544 00:41:17,310 --> 00:41:20,440 They are congratulating me for being a million-dollar winner 545 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:26,650 and explaining to me that I'll be getting $50,000 for 546 00:41:26,740 --> 00:41:28,820 the next 20 years. 547 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,450 The check came in the mail 548 00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:36,040 which they went to my fake address and Jerry brought it to me. 549 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,380 And I told him the deposits check, and then he saying, 550 00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:45,550 "You didn't get any cash off of it?" "No, they got to put a hold on it." 551 00:41:45,630 --> 00:41:49,590 Well, during that time, my bank account was always though. 552 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,930 I had to go back to the bank and insist on getting something. 553 00:41:56,230 --> 00:42:00,610 So I got $2,000 and I gave it to him. 554 00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:06,900 When it did clear, he was calling me to add to the 2,000 and make it 25. 555 00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:12,700 So I just took the money and gave it to him. 556 00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:14,740 And I didn't say any questions. 557 00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:20,330 He worked out a deal where what I had he took, 558 00:42:20,420 --> 00:42:25,630 and for the first five years, I had to give them... 559 00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:31,050 Give Jerry Colombo $25,000. 560 00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:39,640 Nothing changed for me. Never acted like I have money. 561 00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:45,860 Because I was in a deeper hole than where I was before I did it. 562 00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:47,900 Took my mortgage up high of course, 563 00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:52,160 and I went from paying $307 a month to a thousand dollars. 564 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:57,450 So I was just like... That's when I found out about the taxes. 565 00:42:57,950 --> 00:43:03,130 Jerry Colombo got $25,000 each time before taxes. 566 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,470 I didn't go out and buy anything. 567 00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:16,010 I couldn't buy anything. I was so stressed. 568 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,770 Well, Jerry Colombo always got to consult with the head man, 569 00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:22,600 let me call Uncle Jerry. 570 00:43:22,690 --> 00:43:27,900 Uncle Jerry is being reported to about everything. 571 00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:33,530 During that time I felt like Uncle Jerry was the main mob man. 572 00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:39,580 Within that first year, McDonald's wanted me to do all this publicity, 573 00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:42,870 but I just couldn't get into it. 574 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,090 Jerry Colombo's thing was they want you to advertise 575 00:43:47,170 --> 00:43:51,840 because you are the first black, and you're a female. 576 00:43:53,470 --> 00:43:55,850 And you got the million dollars. 577 00:43:55,930 --> 00:44:00,060 And I'm saying to myself, yeah, but... 578 00:44:00,140 --> 00:44:03,230 I don't wanna keep talking to people and telling the story 579 00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:06,270 over and over and over and over and over. 580 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,690 But he said, I had to do this. 581 00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:11,940 We stayed in the Four Seasons. 582 00:44:12,030 --> 00:44:15,320 That was the first time I could order what I wanted from the menu 583 00:44:15,490 --> 00:44:17,830 and not worry about the tab. 584 00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:22,250 When the girl took so long to come out, I said, "This must be real." 585 00:44:22,330 --> 00:44:26,170 So it's just... all this is beginning to set in. 586 00:44:26,250 --> 00:44:30,760 I just don't know how to describe it, it's indescribable. 587 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,380 The best part about it, 588 00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:36,390 the whole thing is that I got a chance to meet Jeremy. 589 00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:44,270 The marketing company, they had a big celebration, 590 00:44:44,350 --> 00:44:47,440 it was sort of like a promotion type thing and Jerry Colombo said, 591 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,400 "Uncle Jerry gonna be in the audience." 592 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,690 And I'm like, "Oh, my God." 593 00:44:53,820 --> 00:44:55,200 So... 594 00:44:56,030 --> 00:45:00,450 They had a big check for me to hold, take a picture, 595 00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:01,950 and then they say, "Speak." 596 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:07,330 I'm like, "Oh, here I go, more lies." 597 00:45:10,090 --> 00:45:13,510 I was counting out of it, I could hear the cameras going. 598 00:45:13,590 --> 00:45:17,430 The whole time I'm thinking about this mob man in the audience. 599 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:23,310 Never seeing a picture of him, didn't know who I was looking for 600 00:45:23,390 --> 00:45:27,770 but I kept looking to see which one it could be. 601 00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:32,780 After that, I thought I just told them, "I don't wanna do anything else. 602 00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:39,240 Don't put me out to do anything else." 603 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,120 Jerry Colombo said, "Uncle Jerry was in the crowd, he said you did great." 604 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,040 It just was little things like that that made sure I guess 605 00:45:52,130 --> 00:45:56,670 I stayed on my toes and did what I needed to do into a proper. 606 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,260 So I was still under that web the whole time. 607 00:46:01,350 --> 00:46:04,430 I didn't know where to turn, I didn't know what to do, 608 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,270 it was just really no way out of it. 609 00:46:08,770 --> 00:46:11,730 And I said to myself, now, what's next? 610 00:46:20,110 --> 00:46:23,950 As soon as I got that check things changed. 611 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,380 I'm in his car and we're going to this bank. 612 00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:37,050 Went in to get the check cash right there. 613 00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:42,550 And all the money went right to Jerry's hands. 614 00:46:43,140 --> 00:46:45,260 And teller said to me, he said, 615 00:46:45,350 --> 00:46:51,400 "Get that money, it's $50,000 taxes on that, make sure you get that." 616 00:46:52,270 --> 00:46:58,150 But I didn't think anything of it, you go numb, there's just no thought. 617 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:03,030 And that's kind of how I felt I think with that money because it's not mine. 618 00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:09,250 He said he had to go to Uncle Jerry first, give him his piece of pie, then 619 00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:15,290 everybody gets a piece of pie, and it has to go in that order 620 00:47:15,380 --> 00:47:17,300 before I can get my money. 621 00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:21,050 So I kept calling him, and calling him, and he was like, 622 00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:25,260 "Call me back, say I'm gonna get the money for you, I got the money on me. 623 00:47:25,350 --> 00:47:28,850 It's gonna be like another week or whatever," he just kept putting me off. 624 00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:33,190 And I heard the difference in his voice like, 625 00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:37,110 "Don't bug me, you're gonna get your money." 626 00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:43,030 I believed that Gennaro owed Uncle Jerry money. 627 00:47:44,530 --> 00:47:48,910 I believe the money got too big 628 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,370 to not take a bigger piece of that pie. 629 00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:58,500 Because the spending habits became bigger and grander. 630 00:47:58,590 --> 00:48:03,630 And I'm thinking, okay, that's why I am not getting my money. 631 00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:10,560 I wonder if the local banks, they'll have the money. 632 00:48:11,810 --> 00:48:14,650 - You know, it's a small town. - It's a cute town. 633 00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:18,570 It's a great little town. It's like living in the '60s. 634 00:48:20,070 --> 00:48:23,610 You could ask any number of people what would drive you 635 00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:25,740 to do what these people did. 636 00:48:25,820 --> 00:48:28,370 The first one I peeled off, I believe, was Pennsylvania 637 00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:32,500 and the second one I peeled off was a million-dollar instant prize winner, 638 00:48:32,580 --> 00:48:34,830 and it was like, wow, is this for real? 639 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,590 A lot of this is stealing money using a device to do it, 640 00:48:38,670 --> 00:48:42,880 tricking somebody into it. And then two or more do that, that's a conspiracy. 641 00:48:42,970 --> 00:48:45,340 Deborah is gonna be so happy I said that. 642 00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:47,010 but it's more than that. 643 00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:51,100 - Breakfast sandwich. I'm... - Yes, breakfast sandwich. 644 00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:55,690 A lot of them are good people, they make bad decisions whether it be 645 00:48:55,850 --> 00:48:59,770 they have fallen into a financial problem, 646 00:48:59,940 --> 00:49:03,650 and they hear a nice way to get out of it. 647 00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:08,570 That's your motivation, I'm gonna do it because I need money 648 00:49:08,740 --> 00:49:12,290 for my kid's health or school, or I'm gonna retire. 649 00:49:14,290 --> 00:49:19,460 Human nature makes us do different things. 650 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,720 People want to justify what they did or why they did it 651 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,260 so they can really live with themselves. 652 00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:31,890 Everyone, everyone watching this show 653 00:49:31,970 --> 00:49:35,100 cannot stand in front of a mirror, 654 00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:39,730 look at themselves in the eyes and say they've never done something 655 00:49:39,810 --> 00:49:43,940 that they wish they could correct and take back. 656 00:49:49,950 --> 00:49:51,160 A couple of years later, 657 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:54,620 I had this company and it was calling me on a regular basis, 658 00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:58,120 trying to get me to come on this trip. 659 00:49:58,210 --> 00:50:03,050 I was very reluctant but they kept saying it was for other winners, 660 00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:08,260 they wanna find out where we are now, what we doing, just a follow-up. 661 00:50:12,260 --> 00:50:15,930 A lot of the stuff I just want to block out and just forget it. 662 00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:20,400 We just kind of went in and laughed, and talked. 663 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,190 Try to make me feel comfortable but I never felt comfortable about this. 664 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,030 Basically what I'd like you to do... 665 00:50:28,110 --> 00:50:30,860 Somebody asked me a question from this side... 666 00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:36,410 Then from the other side. That's when I knew that something wasn't right. 667 00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:41,120 I was about to get sick to the stomach because I knew. 668 00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:43,540 And I was trying to cut them short, 669 00:50:43,630 --> 00:50:46,760 and they wouldn't stop asking me questions. 670 00:50:48,670 --> 00:50:51,970 So when did you decide to move back to Jacksonville... 671 00:50:52,050 --> 00:50:54,890 I feel like an interrogation went on because 672 00:50:54,970 --> 00:51:00,140 when I was in there, I was like, I could feel my adrenaline 673 00:51:00,230 --> 00:51:02,650 building a little bit because 674 00:51:02,730 --> 00:51:08,530 I knew that they wasn't asking me questions... 675 00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:13,450 The questions they was asking me was just to get it on record 676 00:51:13,530 --> 00:51:15,910 how I spent the money. 677 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,200 But I felt it. 678 00:51:20,580 --> 00:51:23,210 That feeling there's something else. 679 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,960 Okay. Let's rehearse it, okay? You talk to the camera. 680 00:51:29,050 --> 00:51:31,760 You can do it slow because this is like a rehearsal. Okay. 681 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,050 Did you have fun with the undercover operation? 682 00:51:34,140 --> 00:51:36,890 It might have been, 683 00:51:36,970 --> 00:51:40,100 but you're about to deprive someone of their freedom, 684 00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:44,190 their future, everything from family. 685 00:51:44,270 --> 00:51:48,110 It's not meant to be that kind of fun for us at all. 686 00:51:48,190 --> 00:51:53,280 It's not fun at all to deprive liberty to someone. 687 00:51:54,110 --> 00:51:58,290 We just walked out of there and I was kind of numb walking out the door, 688 00:51:58,450 --> 00:52:03,670 I'm like, "Oh, this is it, something is gonna happen from this." 689 00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:17,100 It wasn't much longer after the Fuzzy Bunny situation. 690 00:52:17,180 --> 00:52:21,270 I got real depressed, I didn't eat. I was just so distraught 691 00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:24,100 and I got mad. I looked over at him 692 00:52:24,270 --> 00:52:27,110 and I told him about Uncle Jerry. 693 00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:31,940 I said, "He asked me to marry him." As soon as I said the words 694 00:52:32,030 --> 00:52:33,820 I was sorry, 695 00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:38,200 because I could tell it was a real thing. 696 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,870 Because at first I thought this could be a setup, 697 00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:46,420 maybe they're trying to find out my loyalty, and it wasn't a set up. 698 00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:50,460 And so he cussed Uncle Jerry out. 699 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:58,720 The next day we're driving down the road. 700 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,270 Jerry's in the passenger seat, I'm driving... 701 00:53:03,350 --> 00:53:06,270 Frankie is crying in the car seat. 702 00:53:06,350 --> 00:53:09,440 It's bothering Jerry more than it is me. 703 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,030 And we got in an argument. 704 00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:26,120 And so he says, "Rob, I got to put him down, let him down, it's enough." 705 00:53:26,210 --> 00:53:28,290 And so he took him out of his car seat. 706 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:35,630 Oh, my God, Jerry, come on. And a little teardrop came down my face 707 00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:39,010 and I thought I'm never gonna get out of this. 708 00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:41,850 Come on. Lay down. 709 00:53:44,270 --> 00:53:45,810 Come on. 710 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,400 I want mommy, I want mommy. 63681

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