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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:40,953 --> 00:00:44,832 ♪ Keep in the dark to stay out of the light ♪ 2 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:48,530 ♪ Keep in the dark to stay out of the light ♪ 3 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:52,659 ♪ Keep in the dark to stay out of the light ♪ 4 00:00:52,704 --> 00:00:56,064 ♪ Just sleeping in the sunlight ♪ 5 00:00:57,231 --> 00:00:59,151 ♪ La... 6 00:00:59,189 --> 00:01:01,499 ERIC: I need an ambulance. Hurry. 7 00:01:01,539 --> 00:01:03,319 My mom-- she's fucking dying, okay? 8 00:01:03,366 --> 00:01:04,846 Just get over here. 9 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:06,890 ♪ La... 10 00:01:08,024 --> 00:01:11,853 ♪ La... 11 00:01:40,664 --> 00:01:42,444 WALSH: Mr. Fisher, how do you plead 12 00:01:42,492 --> 00:01:44,453 to the charge of second-degree murder 13 00:01:44,495 --> 00:01:46,405 of your mother Mary Fisher? 14 00:01:52,241 --> 00:01:54,162 Mr. Fisher? 15 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,771 Uh... 16 00:01:57,334 --> 00:01:59,164 Guilty, Your Honor. 17 00:01:59,206 --> 00:02:00,335 Very well. 18 00:02:00,381 --> 00:02:01,990 WALSH: In order to determine 19 00:02:02,034 --> 00:02:03,563 if you can be rehabilitated 20 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,471 by the California Youth Authority, 21 00:02:05,516 --> 00:02:08,256 I order the L.A. County Probation Department 22 00:02:08,301 --> 00:02:10,171 to perform a psychological evaluation 23 00:02:10,217 --> 00:02:13,217 for a period to last no longer than 90 days. 24 00:02:13,349 --> 00:02:15,960 Bullshit deal, counselor. 25 00:02:16,004 --> 00:02:17,175 When the evaluation is complete, 26 00:02:17,223 --> 00:02:19,443 we will reconvene for sentencing. 27 00:02:19,486 --> 00:02:20,787 Court is adjourned. 28 00:02:20,836 --> 00:02:22,925 Seriously? No adult trial? 29 00:02:22,967 --> 00:02:24,487 A fucking youth sentence. 30 00:02:24,534 --> 00:02:26,314 He look like a kid to you? 31 00:02:26,362 --> 00:02:28,802 You got a problem, talk to probation. 32 00:02:33,021 --> 00:02:35,241 It's gonna be okay, son. 33 00:02:54,521 --> 00:02:55,741 Mm-hmm. 34 00:03:05,445 --> 00:03:06,795 Mm-hmm. 35 00:03:28,163 --> 00:03:29,603 Big hairy spider. 36 00:03:29,644 --> 00:03:32,123 Need a break? 37 00:03:32,168 --> 00:03:33,388 Not if those help you 38 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:34,949 figure out that I'm not 39 00:03:34,997 --> 00:03:38,086 a hard-core criminal. 40 00:03:38,129 --> 00:03:40,520 That the CYA can fix me. 41 00:03:40,567 --> 00:03:42,957 Hey, I'm not a fan, either. 42 00:03:43,004 --> 00:03:45,395 But it's required. 43 00:03:46,616 --> 00:03:49,187 Did she always push you? 44 00:03:51,187 --> 00:03:53,187 Nothing I did was enough. 45 00:03:54,538 --> 00:03:57,147 It was contentious, your relationship? 46 00:03:57,192 --> 00:03:58,593 It was like a war zone. 47 00:03:58,628 --> 00:04:01,239 Hmm. How old were you when that started? 48 00:04:01,283 --> 00:04:03,903 Around the time you started using drugs? 49 00:04:03,938 --> 00:04:05,588 And before that. 50 00:04:05,635 --> 00:04:08,286 You know, I told you, it was the bicycle thing, it was 51 00:04:08,335 --> 00:04:09,805 the-the swimming thing. 52 00:04:09,858 --> 00:04:11,557 What about later, 53 00:04:11,598 --> 00:04:15,429 after the drugs started-- you were around 12 years old? 54 00:04:15,472 --> 00:04:17,262 Eight. 55 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:18,949 She put me on that crazy 56 00:04:18,997 --> 00:04:21,086 kid speed. 57 00:04:21,129 --> 00:04:23,220 So, when you started using drugs on your own, 58 00:04:23,262 --> 00:04:25,132 did the fighting get worse then? 59 00:04:25,177 --> 00:04:27,346 I mean, she didn't hit me as much. 60 00:04:27,396 --> 00:04:29,307 You know, uh, 61 00:04:29,355 --> 00:04:32,786 but that could also just be because I was... I was bigger. 62 00:04:36,667 --> 00:04:39,146 Do you think maybe that's why... 63 00:04:39,191 --> 00:04:41,411 she sent me away? 64 00:04:42,456 --> 00:04:44,235 Did you love her? 65 00:04:45,980 --> 00:04:48,290 I mean, she was... she was... my mother. 66 00:04:48,331 --> 00:04:49,990 Of course I did. 67 00:04:50,028 --> 00:04:52,418 Do you think she loved you? 68 00:05:06,870 --> 00:05:08,831 ERIC: We went to Mexico, 69 00:05:08,872 --> 00:05:10,273 just the three of us. 70 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:11,620 I was... 71 00:05:11,658 --> 00:05:14,048 about five? 72 00:05:14,096 --> 00:05:15,875 Okay.Mm. 73 00:05:17,141 --> 00:05:18,932 And you remember that trip? 74 00:05:18,970 --> 00:05:20,360 Yeah. 75 00:05:20,406 --> 00:05:22,706 It's, uh... it's me and my mom 76 00:05:22,757 --> 00:05:24,536 on the beach. 77 00:05:24,584 --> 00:05:26,535 Um... 78 00:05:26,586 --> 00:05:30,067 I found this big-ass starfish, 79 00:05:30,112 --> 00:05:33,461 and I'm-I'm showing it to her, and we both 80 00:05:33,507 --> 00:05:36,206 look, um... 81 00:05:37,598 --> 00:05:39,338 ...happy. 82 00:05:40,687 --> 00:05:42,648 Lookhappy? Yeah. My... 83 00:05:42,689 --> 00:05:46,480 my dad-- he used to take all these home movies. 84 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:49,259 All those, uh, 85 00:05:49,305 --> 00:05:52,305 family movies, and-and he's, um... 86 00:05:54,528 --> 00:05:56,747 He's not in 'em. 87 00:05:58,661 --> 00:06:00,451 Well, that's it for today. 88 00:06:00,490 --> 00:06:02,100 You sure? 89 00:06:02,144 --> 00:06:04,413 We just have one more thing we need to talk about. 90 00:06:05,668 --> 00:06:07,149 What happened that morning. 91 00:06:07,192 --> 00:06:09,281 March 10, 1983. 92 00:06:11,848 --> 00:06:13,809 ERIC: The shrink, man. 93 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:16,110 I got to fucking walk her through it. 94 00:06:16,158 --> 00:06:17,507 Through what? 95 00:06:17,550 --> 00:06:19,680 Everything, step by step. 96 00:06:19,726 --> 00:06:22,076 How I did it, exactly. 97 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,649 I'm-I'm just supposed to fucking make up a story? 98 00:06:24,687 --> 00:06:26,858 Like, that story? 99 00:06:26,908 --> 00:06:29,867 But, uh, Eric, you-you already pleaded guilty. 100 00:06:29,911 --> 00:06:31,961 Now I have to do this. 101 00:06:34,002 --> 00:06:35,661 I can't. 102 00:06:35,699 --> 00:06:37,178 I can't do it. 103 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:41,177 You have to. You have to. 104 00:06:41,225 --> 00:06:44,136 The youth sentence gets you out when you're 25. 105 00:06:44,185 --> 00:06:45,485 I don't fucking care. 106 00:06:45,534 --> 00:06:46,925 I fucking do. 107 00:06:46,971 --> 00:06:49,540 You get tried as an adult-- 108 00:06:49,582 --> 00:06:51,502 that's state prison 109 00:06:51,540 --> 00:06:53,110 for God knows how long. 110 00:06:53,151 --> 00:06:54,461 If I lose, yeah. 111 00:06:57,504 --> 00:07:00,903 This woman sees right through me. 112 00:07:00,942 --> 00:07:03,601 She's gonna know I'm lying. 113 00:07:05,685 --> 00:07:07,505 What about Chris? 114 00:07:07,557 --> 00:07:09,297 Oh, Jesus. Chris Keller? 115 00:07:09,341 --> 00:07:11,821 But even if we knew where he was, 116 00:07:11,865 --> 00:07:13,605 we're way past that now, Eric. 117 00:07:15,826 --> 00:07:17,646 I'm talking to her, too. 118 00:07:17,697 --> 00:07:19,957 And then you-you can be damn sure that I am gonna tell her 119 00:07:20,004 --> 00:07:22,624 everything she needs to know to make this deal happen. 120 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:26,454 And so will you. 121 00:07:30,362 --> 00:07:32,322 And then, for the rest of my life, 122 00:07:32,363 --> 00:07:34,933 I'm just the kid who murdered his mom. 123 00:07:35,976 --> 00:07:39,807 No, you are my kid, my son. 124 00:07:40,850 --> 00:07:42,591 You can do this. 125 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,545 You have to. 126 00:07:55,735 --> 00:07:57,685 I hear you got something for me? 127 00:07:57,737 --> 00:08:00,218 Yeah, for your probation package. 128 00:08:00,262 --> 00:08:03,221 Paperwork on that unfiled assault. 129 00:08:03,264 --> 00:08:05,134 So, Fisher filed the original complaint, 130 00:08:05,180 --> 00:08:06,660 but I looked into it, 131 00:08:06,702 --> 00:08:09,103 and the victim, his girlfriend, Kimberly Decker... 132 00:08:09,139 --> 00:08:10,790 I can read, Detective. 133 00:08:10,838 --> 00:08:12,487 Good. 134 00:08:12,535 --> 00:08:14,535 Do that. 135 00:08:14,581 --> 00:08:17,060 Tell me you want that punk out in the world. 136 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:20,759 Make sure his CYA headshrinker sees it. 137 00:08:20,803 --> 00:08:22,814 I'll add it to the package. 138 00:08:25,329 --> 00:08:26,850 What? 139 00:08:26,896 --> 00:08:28,896 You want him out at 25? 140 00:08:32,293 --> 00:08:34,254 ERIC: I didn't do it, 141 00:08:34,296 --> 00:08:35,645 you know. 142 00:08:35,688 --> 00:08:37,078 I didn't kill her. 143 00:08:37,125 --> 00:08:38,465 Whatever, man. 144 00:08:38,518 --> 00:08:40,258 Nobody care about your shit. 145 00:08:40,302 --> 00:08:41,871 They just want to get inside your melon. 146 00:08:42,913 --> 00:08:44,312 What are you worried about? 147 00:08:44,349 --> 00:08:46,479 No witnesses. 148 00:08:46,525 --> 00:08:48,475 Your mama can't talk. 149 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:50,048 Okay, I didn't do it. 150 00:08:50,094 --> 00:08:52,844 Shit, man, you're easy. 151 00:08:54,446 --> 00:08:57,485 Yo, don't let no one inside, all right? 152 00:08:59,451 --> 00:09:01,931 Got some help for that. 153 00:09:01,975 --> 00:09:04,456 Ten bucks, new-kid special. 154 00:09:17,557 --> 00:09:19,297 HENRY: Well, I don't know, 155 00:09:19,341 --> 00:09:21,301 uh, what more I can tell you. 156 00:09:21,342 --> 00:09:24,222 Uh, bottom line-- Eric is a good kid, you know? 157 00:09:24,259 --> 00:09:25,869 Mary just had a way of pushing 158 00:09:25,913 --> 00:09:28,092 his buttons, and, uh... 159 00:09:28,131 --> 00:09:30,402 And, you know, I was a... an older dad and all. 160 00:09:30,438 --> 00:09:31,658 You know, 161 00:09:31,701 --> 00:09:33,530 is there anything else, in your opinion, 162 00:09:33,572 --> 00:09:36,143 that could have precipitated this current offense? 163 00:09:36,183 --> 00:09:38,673 Well, as I said, he was going through a lot at the time. 164 00:09:38,707 --> 00:09:41,097 And there was a girl.Yeah. 165 00:09:41,144 --> 00:09:43,144 There was a girl. His, uh... It was his girlfriend. 166 00:09:43,191 --> 00:09:45,061 Well, actually, his-his first girlfriend. 167 00:09:45,105 --> 00:09:49,546 And, uh, around that time, they... they broke up. 168 00:09:49,588 --> 00:09:51,548 And Eric is... 169 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:53,770 Well, you know, he was... 170 00:09:53,809 --> 00:09:55,460 he was a wreck. 171 00:09:55,506 --> 00:09:57,596 And that was, uh, Kimberly Decker? 172 00:09:58,902 --> 00:10:01,081 Kimberly? Uh, yeah, uh, could be. 173 00:10:01,121 --> 00:10:03,042 Yeah, we-we never actually met. 174 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,649 Uh, but my-my point is 175 00:10:05,692 --> 00:10:08,741 that it-it was an extremely rough time for Eric, and... 176 00:10:08,782 --> 00:10:11,522 Any do you have any idea why they broke up? 177 00:10:11,567 --> 00:10:13,177 Well, it was 178 00:10:13,221 --> 00:10:15,620 usual reasons, I suppose, you know? 179 00:10:15,658 --> 00:10:19,268 Um, teenagers and... teenage, uh, heartbreak. 180 00:10:19,313 --> 00:10:20,754 That can be pretty hard 181 00:10:20,793 --> 00:10:23,453 on a kid. Um...Hmm. 182 00:10:23,491 --> 00:10:24,711 You mind if I smoke? 183 00:10:24,754 --> 00:10:26,713 Ah, please.Ah. 184 00:10:26,755 --> 00:10:28,446 I quit a year ago. 185 00:10:28,496 --> 00:10:30,366 I still love the smell.Yeah. Thank you. 186 00:10:31,630 --> 00:10:34,500 So, um, how was Eric as a baby? 187 00:10:37,505 --> 00:10:39,806 Uh, well, he-he was a baby. 188 00:10:39,855 --> 00:10:42,375 You know? He was a... 189 00:10:42,423 --> 00:10:43,774 he was a real cute kid. 190 00:10:43,817 --> 00:10:45,427 Were there any difficulties? 191 00:10:45,470 --> 00:10:47,259 You adopted him just after birth, right? 192 00:10:47,298 --> 00:10:49,467 How did that go? 193 00:10:49,518 --> 00:10:51,388 Well, like I said, 194 00:10:51,432 --> 00:10:53,702 my wife didn't exactly take to motherhood. 195 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:57,049 I'm asking about Eric, Mr. Fisher. 196 00:10:58,788 --> 00:11:00,697 Um... 197 00:11:00,746 --> 00:11:03,706 well, he-he didn't sleep very much or very well 198 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:05,100 when he was little. 199 00:11:05,142 --> 00:11:06,971 Um, and when he started school, 200 00:11:07,014 --> 00:11:08,714 he just couldn't stop moving. 201 00:11:08,754 --> 00:11:10,534 He was... 202 00:11:10,581 --> 00:11:14,111 uh, hyperkinetic, the doctor said, so... 203 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:18,500 And then Mary put him on those pills, and... 204 00:11:18,547 --> 00:11:21,506 And how would you describe your relationship with your son? 205 00:11:28,774 --> 00:11:30,595 Is that a difficult question?No. 206 00:11:30,645 --> 00:11:33,206 No. No, he's, um... 207 00:11:33,256 --> 00:11:35,557 Well, he-he's my son. 208 00:11:35,606 --> 00:11:37,907 When I ask you to describe your relationship with your son, 209 00:11:37,957 --> 00:11:39,957 what's the first word that comes to your mind? 210 00:11:42,918 --> 00:11:45,838 Well, I'd say, um... 211 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:47,838 uh, solid. 212 00:11:49,099 --> 00:11:50,709 Yeah, solid, yeah. 213 00:11:50,753 --> 00:11:53,673 Eric and I, we're solid. 214 00:11:53,712 --> 00:11:55,763 Solid. Hmm. 215 00:11:55,802 --> 00:11:58,461 That's a good word, and a good place to end. 216 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:00,890 Uh, that's it? 217 00:12:00,937 --> 00:12:03,067 You-you don't need anything else? 218 00:12:03,113 --> 00:12:04,513 We're good. 219 00:12:04,548 --> 00:12:07,158 Uh, you know, can I ask you a question? 220 00:12:07,203 --> 00:12:09,214 Uh, off the record. 221 00:12:09,250 --> 00:12:12,169 Did you think Eric was capable of something like this? 222 00:12:12,208 --> 00:12:14,038 What? 223 00:12:14,081 --> 00:12:15,780 No, of-of course not. He... 224 00:12:15,822 --> 00:12:17,211 I'm-I'm-I'm sorry. 225 00:12:17,258 --> 00:12:19,298 I-I take that back. 226 00:12:19,346 --> 00:12:21,086 That was a completely unfair question. 227 00:12:26,354 --> 00:12:28,974 RONALD REAGAN: There's someone else here tonight. 228 00:12:29,009 --> 00:12:31,838 She lives in the inner city, where she cares for infants 229 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,451 born of mothers who are heroin addicts. 230 00:12:34,491 --> 00:12:36,361 The children, born in withdrawal, 231 00:12:36,407 --> 00:12:38,797 are sometimes even dropped on her doorstep. 232 00:12:38,845 --> 00:12:41,325 She helps them with love. 233 00:12:41,369 --> 00:12:44,288 Go to her house some night, and maybe you'll see her silhouette 234 00:12:44,327 --> 00:12:46,768 against the window as she walks the floor, 235 00:12:46,808 --> 00:12:48,769 talking softly, soothing a child... 236 00:12:48,811 --> 00:12:50,900 Oh, here's a condo. Hmm? 237 00:12:50,943 --> 00:12:55,514 Two bedrooms, so Eric can stay with us when he gets out. 238 00:12:55,557 --> 00:12:59,386 Nice big pool. No upkeep. 239 00:13:00,779 --> 00:13:03,220 I'm not sure I helped him today. 240 00:13:03,259 --> 00:13:05,179 Of course you did. 241 00:13:05,219 --> 00:13:06,438 I don't know. 242 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,530 REAGAN: Jean, Mother Hale, 243 00:13:08,570 --> 00:13:12,269 your lives tell us that the oldest American saying 244 00:13:12,312 --> 00:13:13,712 is new again. 245 00:13:15,533 --> 00:13:17,753 You are his rock. 246 00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:41,913 It's hard to remember, okay? 247 00:13:44,345 --> 00:13:46,865 That whole... 248 00:13:46,913 --> 00:13:49,003 day, it's just... 249 00:13:51,655 --> 00:13:53,525 ...it's all blurred up. 250 00:13:53,571 --> 00:13:56,360 THOMPSON: Then you need to un-blur it for me. Now. 251 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:58,190 It's the only way I can help you. 252 00:13:58,227 --> 00:14:00,878 Look, I can't, okay? I don't... 253 00:14:00,927 --> 00:14:02,486 You went to the house that morning. 254 00:14:02,537 --> 00:14:03,667 About what time? 255 00:14:05,714 --> 00:14:08,543 Why did you go there? 256 00:14:10,370 --> 00:14:12,681 You went there because...?Because I needed money. 257 00:14:12,721 --> 00:14:14,900 I needed a couple of bucks... 258 00:14:14,941 --> 00:14:17,770 to fix my shocks, and I knew she had it. 259 00:14:17,812 --> 00:14:19,513 The money your dad had given her the day before. 260 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:23,600 Were you high when you got there? 261 00:14:26,429 --> 00:14:29,870 If you were altered in any way, I need to know. 262 00:14:31,173 --> 00:14:32,963 I was on speed. 263 00:14:33,001 --> 00:14:35,611 Okay? But... 264 00:14:35,657 --> 00:14:38,267 I'm sober now. 265 00:14:38,312 --> 00:14:41,011 What happened once you got there? 266 00:14:50,932 --> 00:14:51,982 What do you want? 267 00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:53,630 So, 268 00:14:53,674 --> 00:14:54,804 my rear shocks broke. 269 00:14:54,850 --> 00:14:56,159 I can fix them, but I need, 270 00:14:56,198 --> 00:14:57,459 um, um... 271 00:14:57,504 --> 00:14:58,894 Money?Yeah. 272 00:14:58,941 --> 00:15:00,551 I can't do that.I need, like, 273 00:15:00,595 --> 00:15:02,024 ten, 15 bucks for car parts. 274 00:15:02,075 --> 00:15:04,634 You need to leave.No, I need to fix my car. 275 00:15:04,686 --> 00:15:07,645 Okay? I can't get a job if I don't have a car. 276 00:15:07,688 --> 00:15:09,778 That's your problem.Can I just... 277 00:15:09,821 --> 00:15:11,350 can I come in? 278 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:13,868 Can I come in and just have, like, a glass of water? 279 00:15:14,913 --> 00:15:16,833 I'll be quick. 280 00:15:21,658 --> 00:15:22,879 MARY: Goddamn it. 281 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:24,361 Put that down.No. 282 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,711 Put it back, Eric.Stop. 283 00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:27,620 Give it to me. Eric.Stop. 284 00:15:27,664 --> 00:15:29,095 MARY: Give that to me. Come on! 285 00:15:29,144 --> 00:15:30,404 Give that back! 286 00:15:30,451 --> 00:15:33,191 Give it back! Give it... Mom, stop! 287 00:15:33,235 --> 00:15:34,405 Get off! 288 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:40,071 You need to leave now!What, are you gonna hit me? 289 00:15:40,113 --> 00:15:41,682 Ow! Fuck! 290 00:15:44,334 --> 00:15:46,474 Stop! 291 00:15:46,509 --> 00:15:49,080 What were you thinking when you hit her?I wasn't thinking. 292 00:15:49,121 --> 00:15:51,081 I was too fucking angry to think. 293 00:15:51,124 --> 00:15:53,344 15 bucks, you know? 294 00:15:53,386 --> 00:15:57,037 And what, she-she-she... she hits me. 295 00:15:57,086 --> 00:15:59,956 And then you hit her?It was all just happening... 296 00:16:00,001 --> 00:16:01,961 on its own. 297 00:16:02,004 --> 00:16:04,224 Without me. 298 00:16:05,702 --> 00:16:09,273 How did you feel when you knew you'd hurt her? 299 00:16:09,316 --> 00:16:10,966 She started it. 300 00:16:12,057 --> 00:16:14,097 I mean, she didn't... 301 00:16:14,147 --> 00:16:16,976 she... she already didn't want me 302 00:16:17,019 --> 00:16:18,408 in her life-- she-she wanted... 303 00:16:18,455 --> 00:16:20,325 she wanted nothing to... nothing to do with me. 304 00:16:22,110 --> 00:16:24,421 And then what happened next? 305 00:16:24,461 --> 00:16:27,071 There was s-s-s... 306 00:16:27,115 --> 00:16:28,936 so... 307 00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:30,418 much... 308 00:16:30,466 --> 00:16:31,986 blood. 309 00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:37,996 : Oh, shit. 310 00:16:58,321 --> 00:17:00,410 The exercise bar. That's what you used. 311 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:03,073 I just wanted it to stop. 312 00:17:06,067 --> 00:17:07,067 Yeah. 313 00:17:09,593 --> 00:17:12,553 Yeah, the, uh, QuadroBow. 314 00:17:12,596 --> 00:17:14,286 That's when... 315 00:17:14,336 --> 00:17:16,856 I got the knives. 316 00:17:16,904 --> 00:17:18,815 Why?Because I wanted... 317 00:17:18,863 --> 00:17:21,782 to make it look like a maniac did it. 318 00:17:21,823 --> 00:17:24,432 Like the Manson murders. 319 00:17:29,395 --> 00:17:31,526 THOMPSON: And the story you told Detective Russell? 320 00:17:31,571 --> 00:17:34,142 That you found her that way. 321 00:17:34,182 --> 00:17:36,192 Just a story. 322 00:17:37,708 --> 00:17:39,877 And the living room window. 323 00:17:41,364 --> 00:17:43,324 ERIC: That's how I always got in. 324 00:17:48,284 --> 00:17:50,723 I made it look like a robbery. 325 00:18:00,035 --> 00:18:02,775 I hid the money in my closet. 326 00:18:13,917 --> 00:18:17,307 Hurry! Hurry! My mom... my mom, she's been stabbed. 327 00:18:17,356 --> 00:18:20,576 She's been stabbed. She's-she's-she's bleeding. 328 00:18:20,621 --> 00:18:22,671 I need somebody to come help her. 329 00:18:23,624 --> 00:18:25,193 Please! 330 00:18:25,233 --> 00:18:29,243 She told me to get some towels to staunch the bleeding. 331 00:18:30,239 --> 00:18:32,108 I took the knives out. 332 00:18:35,026 --> 00:18:37,855 I took the cord off her neck. 333 00:18:40,857 --> 00:18:43,117 Did you try to stop the bleeding? 334 00:18:43,164 --> 00:18:45,335 I tried, but... 335 00:18:48,387 --> 00:18:50,557 ...she was too far gone. 336 00:18:50,606 --> 00:18:52,346 You must have done something. 337 00:18:52,392 --> 00:18:55,051 When the paramedics got there, she was still alive. 338 00:18:55,089 --> 00:18:56,349 Look, I didn't know 339 00:18:56,395 --> 00:18:59,086 what I was doing, okay? 340 00:18:59,137 --> 00:19:00,178 I was high. 341 00:19:00,226 --> 00:19:02,915 I was... in shock. 342 00:19:02,967 --> 00:19:05,227 It just happened. 343 00:19:06,492 --> 00:19:09,712 And so the letters you wrote Detective Russell... 344 00:19:09,757 --> 00:19:12,406 claiming that the real killer was your friend Chris Keller. 345 00:19:12,454 --> 00:19:13,934 Chris knew my mom. 346 00:19:15,501 --> 00:19:17,461 Okay? He was violent. 347 00:19:17,503 --> 00:19:18,983 He loved knives. 348 00:19:19,027 --> 00:19:21,416 Chris fit. He made sense. 349 00:19:24,118 --> 00:19:25,898 But you did it. 350 00:19:25,946 --> 00:19:27,636 Not Chris Keller. 351 00:19:32,126 --> 00:19:34,217 Did you hear my question? 352 00:19:34,259 --> 00:19:35,650 Yes. 353 00:19:42,181 --> 00:19:43,971 I did it. 354 00:19:48,535 --> 00:19:50,404 I killed her. 355 00:19:51,842 --> 00:19:52,892 Okay. 356 00:19:55,454 --> 00:19:58,144 I need to ask you one more question, 357 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:00,017 for the record. 358 00:20:02,983 --> 00:20:04,993 Eric Fisher, 359 00:20:05,028 --> 00:20:06,808 did you fabricate your confession 360 00:20:06,856 --> 00:20:09,817 in order to receive the youthful offender sentence? 361 00:20:13,255 --> 00:20:14,644 No. 362 00:20:27,964 --> 00:20:31,484 I know none of this was easy. 363 00:20:31,534 --> 00:20:34,324 I want to thank you for your hard work, Eric. 364 00:21:05,525 --> 00:21:08,785 All rise. Department F of the Superior Court 365 00:21:08,832 --> 00:21:11,142 of Los Angeles County is now in session, 366 00:21:11,182 --> 00:21:13,971 the Honorable Edward Walsh presiding. 367 00:21:14,010 --> 00:21:16,141 The gallery may be seated. 368 00:21:16,186 --> 00:21:19,836 Mr. Fisher, I ordered the County Probation Department 369 00:21:19,886 --> 00:21:21,576 to determine your eligibility for sentencing 370 00:21:21,627 --> 00:21:22,928 under the Youth Authority, 371 00:21:22,977 --> 00:21:24,146 where, upon successful completion 372 00:21:24,194 --> 00:21:25,805 of a program of rehabilitation, 373 00:21:25,848 --> 00:21:29,108 you would be released at age 25. 374 00:21:29,156 --> 00:21:30,156 Yes, Your Honor. 375 00:21:30,201 --> 00:21:31,861 I have carefully reviewed 376 00:21:31,898 --> 00:21:33,898 your probation report, 377 00:21:33,943 --> 00:21:36,124 the results and conclusions 378 00:21:36,163 --> 00:21:37,993 of the psychiatric testing and evaluation, 379 00:21:38,035 --> 00:21:39,855 and I find they are all in agreement. 380 00:21:39,906 --> 00:21:42,906 Unfortunately, Mr. Fisher, 381 00:21:42,952 --> 00:21:44,653 due to the circumstances of the crime 382 00:21:44,693 --> 00:21:47,443 and your subsequent failure to show sufficient remorse 383 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,309 or empathy for your victim... 384 00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:51,090 N-No, that's-that's... that's not true, 385 00:21:51,134 --> 00:21:53,565 that's not true....the court finds that you are not eligible 386 00:21:53,615 --> 00:21:55,705 for commitment to the California Youth Authority. 387 00:21:55,749 --> 00:21:57,358 Judge, my client has cooperated fully... 388 00:21:57,403 --> 00:22:00,363 I hereby order your client to stand trial as an adult 389 00:22:00,405 --> 00:22:01,965 on the charge of second-degree murder. 390 00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:05,105 Mr. Fisher... 391 00:22:05,148 --> 00:22:07,409 do you choose to withdraw your guilty plea 392 00:22:07,455 --> 00:22:10,195 at this time?Yes, Your Honor. 393 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,681 What is he talking about?The trial is set for September 23. 394 00:22:12,721 --> 00:22:14,031 Court is adjourned.We made a deal. 395 00:22:15,202 --> 00:22:16,992 Eric. 396 00:22:17,030 --> 00:22:18,471 Eric, just... don't worry about it. 397 00:22:18,510 --> 00:22:19,861 I'm-I'm gonna fix this. 398 00:22:19,903 --> 00:22:21,343 You're gonna fix this? Yeah?Yeah. 399 00:22:21,383 --> 00:22:23,653 How the fuck are you gonna fix this? 400 00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:25,869 This was your idea! 401 00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:27,558 Come, Faith. 402 00:22:33,829 --> 00:22:35,440 WALTER: Second degree. 403 00:22:35,483 --> 00:22:38,364 The fucking D.A. sold you out from the jump. 404 00:22:39,792 --> 00:22:42,012 The less you let them know, the better. 405 00:22:42,056 --> 00:22:43,405 Ellen called. 406 00:22:43,449 --> 00:22:45,669 She said there's a part-time opening coming up 407 00:22:45,711 --> 00:22:48,721 in Labor and Delivery-- she says it's mine if I want it. 408 00:22:48,758 --> 00:22:51,587 You having money trouble? The wife has to work? 409 00:22:51,631 --> 00:22:53,330 It's just a couple shifts a week, so it would be... 410 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:54,501 Here's an idea for you. 411 00:22:54,547 --> 00:22:55,896 Why don't you clean the goddamn house? 412 00:22:55,939 --> 00:22:57,939 Hey, honey, why don't you get her ready for bed. 413 00:22:57,984 --> 00:22:59,934 That's a great idea. Let's go to bed, huh, hon? 414 00:22:59,987 --> 00:23:01,336 DEBBIE: But I ain't sleepy. 415 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,470 I know you ain't sleepy. 416 00:23:03,511 --> 00:23:05,301 Good night, sweetheart. 417 00:23:09,299 --> 00:23:11,519 Why don't you go with her? 418 00:23:11,564 --> 00:23:13,483 If you ask her nicely, 419 00:23:13,521 --> 00:23:15,662 maybe she'll give you back your balls. 420 00:23:15,698 --> 00:23:18,397 You don't talk to me like that in my fucking house. 421 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,269 Look at you, huh? Big-time homicide detective 422 00:23:21,311 --> 00:23:23,662 standing up to his old man.That's right. 423 00:23:23,705 --> 00:23:25,395 Big-time murder cop, 424 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:28,406 not some fucking pogue. 425 00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:42,679 What are we, 426 00:23:42,724 --> 00:23:44,285 in fucking sixth grade? 427 00:23:44,335 --> 00:23:45,634 Huh? 428 00:23:45,684 --> 00:23:48,555 : Okay.Yeah, sixth grade. 429 00:23:48,601 --> 00:23:50,820 I hate to eat and run. 430 00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:52,653 Got a big morning. 431 00:23:54,258 --> 00:23:56,958 Those audits don't audit themselves, you know. 432 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,960 Yeah. Workingman. 433 00:24:00,002 --> 00:24:01,663 Take care, kid. 434 00:24:07,054 --> 00:24:09,364 You okay? 435 00:24:09,403 --> 00:24:11,324 Yeah, I'm fine. 436 00:24:11,362 --> 00:24:14,321 You know, it's never a few shifts a week, by the way. 437 00:24:14,365 --> 00:24:17,325 You go back, it's gonna be full time before you know it. 438 00:24:17,367 --> 00:24:19,548 Uh, she wants you to read. 439 00:24:19,587 --> 00:24:21,367 You do it. 440 00:24:22,373 --> 00:24:23,593 Okay, okay, okay, okay. 441 00:24:23,635 --> 00:24:26,115 Hey, I'll do it. I'll do it! 442 00:24:31,077 --> 00:24:33,038 FAITH: I'm going to bed. 443 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:34,519 You coming? 444 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:36,339 No, I... 445 00:24:36,386 --> 00:24:39,606 You really need to get some sleep, honey. 446 00:24:39,652 --> 00:24:41,741 And you need to stop reading that. 447 00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:44,054 Listen to this. 448 00:24:44,090 --> 00:24:46,050 "Narcissistic." 449 00:24:46,093 --> 00:24:48,363 "Callous, violent." 450 00:24:48,398 --> 00:24:50,749 "Psychosexual immaturity"? 451 00:24:50,792 --> 00:24:52,883 I mean, come on. "Dangerous person." 452 00:24:52,925 --> 00:24:54,185 "Borderline personality." 453 00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:56,191 That woman doesn't know a damn thing. 454 00:24:57,233 --> 00:24:59,193 I was there. 455 00:24:59,236 --> 00:25:01,016 He's right. 456 00:25:01,064 --> 00:25:04,023 You know, I made him take this deal. 457 00:25:04,067 --> 00:25:05,936 It's all on me now. 458 00:25:07,767 --> 00:25:11,027 And how do you even show remorse for something you didn't do? 459 00:25:11,074 --> 00:25:13,693 You really, really need to get some rest. 460 00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:15,779 No, you go to bed. 461 00:25:15,817 --> 00:25:17,038 I'll be in in a minute. 462 00:25:23,217 --> 00:25:24,477 Hey, come on. 463 00:25:24,522 --> 00:25:26,093 Hey, yourself. 464 00:25:57,598 --> 00:25:59,169 HENRY: We withdrew your guilty plea. 465 00:25:59,209 --> 00:26:01,519 They can't use anything you told that shrink. 466 00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:04,430 SULLIVAN: Your dad's right. We need to look at what's ahead of us. 467 00:26:04,474 --> 00:26:06,605 I'll cross Russell with everything he ignored, 468 00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:08,261 point the finger at Keller in my closing, 469 00:26:08,305 --> 00:26:10,255 which could get us reasonable doubt. 470 00:26:10,307 --> 00:26:12,747 ERIC: Fucking Chris, man. He's got a bunch of cash on him. 471 00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:15,048 He's got a bullshit alibi. 472 00:26:15,095 --> 00:26:17,394 Detective Russell still doesn't think he's a fucking suspect. 473 00:26:17,444 --> 00:26:19,615 Well, you-you were a much easier target 474 00:26:19,664 --> 00:26:20,744 than Chris Keller. 475 00:26:20,796 --> 00:26:22,316 Right now we have a bigger problem. 476 00:26:22,363 --> 00:26:25,673 Russell also spoke to a guy named Paul Manning. 477 00:26:29,152 --> 00:26:32,031 Okay. So what? I mean, Paulie's on... 478 00:26:32,067 --> 00:26:33,847 Paulie's on my side. 479 00:26:38,552 --> 00:26:40,252 MANNING: Eric told me straight up 480 00:26:40,294 --> 00:26:41,773 he killed his mother. 481 00:26:41,817 --> 00:26:44,596 Jesus. Fuck, no. This guy's fucking lying. 482 00:26:44,645 --> 00:26:46,336 He bashed her head in with his baseball trophy. 483 00:26:46,386 --> 00:26:49,386 Look, I didn't... I didn't... 484 00:26:49,432 --> 00:26:51,653 I didn't tell him anything. 485 00:26:51,697 --> 00:26:53,217 That's a lie. 486 00:26:54,221 --> 00:26:55,790 That's not true. 487 00:26:57,397 --> 00:26:59,048 They sent me to County. 488 00:26:59,095 --> 00:27:02,005 All right? And this guy played me. 489 00:27:04,012 --> 00:27:05,972 A fucking snitch. 490 00:27:06,015 --> 00:27:07,664 And I was stupid. I... 491 00:27:07,712 --> 00:27:09,282 I thought he was my friend. 492 00:27:11,193 --> 00:27:12,374 How'd he get all this? 493 00:27:12,413 --> 00:27:13,853 ERIC: I told him I was 17, 494 00:27:13,893 --> 00:27:15,163 that I didn't belong in County. 495 00:27:15,198 --> 00:27:17,238 He called bullshit, 496 00:27:17,287 --> 00:27:20,247 and so I gave him my face sheet to prove it. 497 00:27:20,289 --> 00:27:23,339 But I didn't say anything. 498 00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:25,079 You didn't have to. 499 00:27:25,121 --> 00:27:26,990 Your face sheet, 500 00:27:27,036 --> 00:27:29,125 stapled to the LAPD follow-up report. 501 00:27:29,169 --> 00:27:30,868 All the facts he needed. 502 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:33,390 Manning got a sweet deal with your confession. 503 00:27:33,433 --> 00:27:34,834 Traded it for an early release. 504 00:27:34,869 --> 00:27:36,309 Fuck. 505 00:27:41,049 --> 00:27:44,359 Okay. I'm gonna do a deep dive on one Paul Manning. 506 00:27:44,401 --> 00:27:46,141 I'll let you know what I find. 507 00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:05,769 Look, I didn't tell him a thing. 508 00:28:09,338 --> 00:28:10,858 Okay? 509 00:28:10,905 --> 00:28:13,336 I didn't. You got to believe me. 510 00:28:20,786 --> 00:28:22,826 Dad, he can't testify. 511 00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:23,914 Well, uh, 512 00:28:23,962 --> 00:28:25,663 even if he does, Sullivan will... 513 00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:27,054 He'll tear him apart.Yeah. 514 00:28:27,096 --> 00:28:28,786 And what if he doesn't? 515 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:33,318 Look, you need to find him. You need to talk to him. 516 00:28:33,363 --> 00:28:36,022 You have to keep him away from my trial.Eric, 517 00:28:36,061 --> 00:28:38,112 that's what's called tampering with a witness. 518 00:28:38,151 --> 00:28:39,760 Is it? 519 00:28:39,805 --> 00:28:43,105 Detective Russell did the same thing to Chris Keller. 520 00:28:43,155 --> 00:28:44,715 I'm a lawyer. 521 00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:47,066 And I need your help. 522 00:28:52,382 --> 00:28:54,781 NEWSWOMAN : Angelenos can breathe a little easier 523 00:28:54,819 --> 00:28:57,390 following the capture of 25-year-old Richard Ramirez, 524 00:28:57,431 --> 00:28:59,961 identified yesterday as the Night Stalker. 525 00:28:59,999 --> 00:29:01,648 For the last seven months, the Stalker 526 00:29:01,695 --> 00:29:03,086 has terrorized California from Orange County... 527 00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:16,619 Uh, just regular... 528 00:29:16,666 --> 00:29:18,626 Yeah.Thanks. 529 00:29:58,361 --> 00:29:59,931 Yo, you got your ticket? 530 00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:03,541 Yeah. 531 00:30:17,597 --> 00:30:19,557 Thank you. 532 00:30:27,781 --> 00:30:29,781 Hey. 533 00:30:35,181 --> 00:30:37,050 Did you find Manning? 534 00:30:37,096 --> 00:30:38,875 Huh? 535 00:30:38,923 --> 00:30:41,973 Did you find Manning? 536 00:30:42,013 --> 00:30:43,544 I tried. 537 00:30:43,579 --> 00:30:45,759 I tried real hard, but... 538 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:47,799 I'm sorry. 539 00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:53,458 Me, too. 540 00:31:57,001 --> 00:31:58,701 WALSH: Any preliminaries before we begin? 541 00:31:58,741 --> 00:32:00,481 Yes, Your Honor. After his arrest, 542 00:32:00,527 --> 00:32:01,916 the defendant blamed the murder 543 00:32:01,962 --> 00:32:04,313 on Chris Keller, his former roommate. 544 00:32:04,356 --> 00:32:07,527 Detective Russell investigated this claim. 545 00:32:07,576 --> 00:32:08,797 He interviewed Mr. Keller 546 00:32:08,838 --> 00:32:11,148 and eliminated him as a possible suspect. 547 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:12,839 The people move that the defense be prohibited 548 00:32:12,886 --> 00:32:14,366 from suggesting to the jury 549 00:32:14,410 --> 00:32:15,799 that Chris Keller in any way 550 00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:17,365 was involved with this murder.SULLIVAN: Judge, 551 00:32:17,413 --> 00:32:19,242 this is the first I'm hearing of this motion in limine. 552 00:32:19,285 --> 00:32:20,974 I'd like a chance to respond in writing. 553 00:32:21,026 --> 00:32:22,455 It's the empty chair defense. 554 00:32:22,505 --> 00:32:24,154 SULLIVAN: Chris Keller was in the Los Angeles area 555 00:32:24,202 --> 00:32:26,252 immediately prior to the crime... 556 00:32:26,291 --> 00:32:27,602 By that standard, we could've all done it. 557 00:32:27,641 --> 00:32:28,901 Judge, if you just listen 558 00:32:28,946 --> 00:32:30,207 to Detective Russell's interview... 559 00:32:30,251 --> 00:32:31,912 Mr. Sullivan, is there any evidence 560 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:34,390 connecting Mr. Keller to the murder of Mary Fisher? 561 00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:36,000 No direct evidence. 562 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,000 The defense is to make no mention of Chris Keller. 563 00:32:38,042 --> 00:32:40,093 Judge, please...That's the end of the matter. 564 00:32:45,006 --> 00:32:47,306 The prosecution calls Henry Fisher. 565 00:32:59,019 --> 00:33:00,369 HENRY: Yes. 566 00:33:00,413 --> 00:33:03,022 I gave my wife $150 every Wednesday. 567 00:33:03,067 --> 00:33:04,458 Was Eric aware of this practice? 568 00:33:04,503 --> 00:33:05,814 Objection. Cause for speculation.HENRY: Yes. 569 00:33:05,853 --> 00:33:07,032 WALSH: Sustained. 570 00:33:07,071 --> 00:33:09,071 The jury will disregard. 571 00:33:22,782 --> 00:33:25,573 Mr. Fisher, I'm holding People's Exhibit 2. 572 00:33:26,613 --> 00:33:28,313 Do you recognize it? 573 00:33:31,096 --> 00:33:32,786 Mr. Fisher? 574 00:33:34,272 --> 00:33:36,232 Yes, it's... 575 00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:38,664 It's my son's baseball trophy. 576 00:33:39,712 --> 00:33:41,673 And where in the house was it kept? 577 00:33:41,714 --> 00:33:44,065 Uh, on a shelf in his bedroom. 578 00:33:44,108 --> 00:33:46,199 He was very proud of it. 579 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,851 Uh, we all were. 580 00:33:47,894 --> 00:33:49,714 He's good for us. 581 00:33:49,766 --> 00:33:51,766 Sympathetic as hell. 582 00:33:55,684 --> 00:33:58,115 ECKERT: Is that an accurate diagram, Detective? RUSSELL: Yes, sir. 583 00:33:58,165 --> 00:33:59,986 Did you attempt to verify the defendant's claim 584 00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:01,688 that he saw his mother's body 585 00:34:01,734 --> 00:34:03,555 on the floor through the living room window? 586 00:34:03,605 --> 00:34:05,516 Yes, I looked through the window myself. 587 00:34:05,565 --> 00:34:07,515 ECKERT: What did you see?RUSSELL: Nothing. 588 00:34:07,567 --> 00:34:08,996 There was too much sun. 589 00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:10,867 So, with the planter bed and the broken awning, 590 00:34:10,918 --> 00:34:12,487 I couldn't get close enough to the window 591 00:34:12,527 --> 00:34:13,657 to see past the glare. 592 00:34:13,702 --> 00:34:15,273 All I could see was my own reflection. 593 00:34:15,313 --> 00:34:16,974 Did you check all the other windows, Detective? 594 00:34:17,010 --> 00:34:19,010 Mrs. Fisher was here, 595 00:34:19,056 --> 00:34:20,487 behind a four-foot concrete planter, 596 00:34:20,536 --> 00:34:21,755 blocking the view of the body 597 00:34:21,797 --> 00:34:23,757 from all the windows except this one. 598 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,409 ECKERT: So, because of the glare, 599 00:34:25,454 --> 00:34:27,114 she couldn't be seen from here, either? 600 00:34:27,152 --> 00:34:28,851 No, she could not. 601 00:34:30,416 --> 00:34:33,246 Straight up fucking lie. 602 00:34:33,288 --> 00:34:35,157 RUSSELL: There are three 603 00:34:35,202 --> 00:34:36,813 bloody shoe prints here, 604 00:34:36,856 --> 00:34:40,077 here and here. 605 00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:41,990 ECKERT: Did you do a visual comparison on those footprints 606 00:34:42,036 --> 00:34:45,646 to the shoes that Eric Fisher was wearing on March 10? 607 00:34:45,692 --> 00:34:47,092 RUSSELL: Yes, and I determined 608 00:34:47,128 --> 00:34:48,827 that the bloody shoe prints inside the house 609 00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:50,739 closely resembled the pattern 610 00:34:50,784 --> 00:34:52,704 on the soles of Eric Fisher's shoes. 611 00:34:52,742 --> 00:34:55,222 Did you find any shoe prints in the house that did not 612 00:34:55,266 --> 00:34:56,527 closely resemble the defendant's shoes? 613 00:34:56,572 --> 00:34:58,492 No, I did not. 614 00:34:59,574 --> 00:35:01,005 He said he discovered the money 615 00:35:01,054 --> 00:35:02,925 was missing after he found his mother. 616 00:35:02,969 --> 00:35:05,889 So, while she was dying... 617 00:35:05,929 --> 00:35:08,668 he took the time to look through her purse. 618 00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:10,144 ECKERT: This is the $150 619 00:35:10,195 --> 00:35:12,144 in grocery money?Yes, sir. 620 00:35:12,197 --> 00:35:13,286 ECKERT: Did the defendant suggest 621 00:35:13,327 --> 00:35:14,588 who might have taken the money? 622 00:35:14,634 --> 00:35:16,594 He said he thought an intruder 623 00:35:16,635 --> 00:35:18,195 must have broken in and stolen it. 624 00:35:18,246 --> 00:35:19,596 ECKERT: Besides the living room window, 625 00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,338 did you find any evidence of forced entry? 626 00:35:22,380 --> 00:35:23,641 No. 627 00:35:23,686 --> 00:35:25,076 Find any evidence of ransacking, 628 00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:26,523 someone trying to search for valuables? 629 00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:27,998 No. 630 00:35:28,038 --> 00:35:29,907 ECKERT: So, the only thing missing was the $150 631 00:35:29,952 --> 00:35:31,393 from Mrs. Fisher's purse, correct? 632 00:35:31,432 --> 00:35:33,963 Yeah, just the money from the purse. 633 00:35:34,001 --> 00:35:35,701 SULLIVAN: This missing money, 634 00:35:35,742 --> 00:35:39,222 you never found it in Eric Fisher's possession, did you? 635 00:35:39,266 --> 00:35:41,916 A couple of hours went by before he was... 636 00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:43,315 Objection-- unresponsive. 637 00:35:43,358 --> 00:35:45,577 Sustained-- yes or no, Detective? 638 00:35:45,621 --> 00:35:47,360 No. 639 00:35:47,405 --> 00:35:48,835 SULLIVAN: Well, he was handcuffed 640 00:35:48,885 --> 00:35:51,105 in the back of a patrol car when you arrived 641 00:35:51,148 --> 00:35:53,719 on the scene, wasn't he?Yes, sir. 642 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,980 Well, then, at the police station when you booked him, 643 00:35:56,023 --> 00:35:57,983 did you find the money on his person? 644 00:35:58,025 --> 00:35:59,675 No. 645 00:36:01,289 --> 00:36:04,949 Did you find the money when you searched the residence 646 00:36:04,987 --> 00:36:06,208 on March 10, 1983? 647 00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:08,510 No, I did not.So... 648 00:36:08,556 --> 00:36:11,996 you have no idea where this missing money went? 649 00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:13,559 No, sir. 650 00:36:13,606 --> 00:36:16,346 And you have no evidence whatsoever 651 00:36:16,391 --> 00:36:19,740 that Eric Fisher is the one who took this money. 652 00:36:23,876 --> 00:36:25,657 No, I do not. 653 00:36:25,704 --> 00:36:27,704 Thank you, Detective Russell. 654 00:36:32,233 --> 00:36:34,152 WALTER: There he is. 655 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:36,931 Our new shoe print expert. 656 00:36:36,976 --> 00:36:40,806 Everybody in S.I.D. is talking about you, bud. 657 00:36:40,849 --> 00:36:42,639 Thanks, Mitch. 658 00:36:49,293 --> 00:36:53,344 You know, I got a question for you guys. 659 00:36:53,385 --> 00:36:56,644 If that boy killed his mama 660 00:36:56,692 --> 00:36:59,391 for the money... 661 00:36:59,434 --> 00:37:02,483 where's the money? 662 00:37:05,092 --> 00:37:07,702 That's what the jurors are gonna be thinking about tonight. 663 00:37:07,746 --> 00:37:09,396 And what am I thinking? 664 00:37:09,443 --> 00:37:10,884 Hmm? 665 00:37:10,923 --> 00:37:12,844 Right now, Dad. 666 00:37:12,882 --> 00:37:14,751 What am I thinking? 667 00:37:19,411 --> 00:37:21,800 Have a good night, boys. 668 00:37:23,371 --> 00:37:25,550 I hate to say anything bad about your father, 669 00:37:25,590 --> 00:37:28,420 but he is one jealous cocksucker. 670 00:37:28,463 --> 00:37:30,032 Yeah, those who can, do. 671 00:37:30,072 --> 00:37:32,472 Those who can't, administrate. 672 00:37:36,297 --> 00:37:37,817 Hmm. 673 00:37:37,864 --> 00:37:41,744 One more reason why I never got married. 674 00:37:48,353 --> 00:37:50,443 ECKERT: Mr. Manning, do you see Eric Fisher 675 00:37:50,485 --> 00:37:51,565 in the courtroom today? 676 00:37:51,617 --> 00:37:54,617 Yes, sir. He's right over there. 677 00:37:54,663 --> 00:37:56,583 Hey, Eric. 678 00:37:56,621 --> 00:37:58,322 I'm praying for you, man. 679 00:38:00,059 --> 00:38:02,190 What did the defendant say next? 680 00:38:02,235 --> 00:38:04,456 He said he killed his mother but he fucked up because he forgot 681 00:38:04,498 --> 00:38:06,889 to get rid of the clothes he was wearing when he did it. 682 00:38:06,936 --> 00:38:09,065 Uh, he said "fucked up," 683 00:38:09,112 --> 00:38:10,382 not me. 684 00:38:10,418 --> 00:38:11,507 ECKERT: Did the defendant say 685 00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:12,639 why he killed his mother? 686 00:38:12,681 --> 00:38:13,681 Uh, yes, sir. 687 00:38:13,726 --> 00:38:15,335 When she wouldn't give him 688 00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:16,820 money for drugs, 689 00:38:16,858 --> 00:38:19,338 she caught him stealing from her purse. 690 00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:20,954 ECKERT: Did he say where her purse was? 691 00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:22,744 MANNING: Uh, yeah, on-on the sofa. 692 00:38:22,777 --> 00:38:25,688 He said she caught him and she started slapping him around. 693 00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:28,217 And, um... 694 00:38:28,262 --> 00:38:30,572 that's when he got the knives from the kitchen drawer. 695 00:38:30,612 --> 00:38:32,311 ECKERT: What did he say he did 696 00:38:32,353 --> 00:38:34,012 with the two knives? 697 00:38:34,050 --> 00:38:35,530 He said he caught her in the hall 698 00:38:35,574 --> 00:38:37,273 and he stabbed her in the back with them. 699 00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:39,485 ECKERT: What did he say happened next? 700 00:38:39,534 --> 00:38:41,324 MANNING: Sir, 701 00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:44,322 he said he got paranoid because she wasn't dead 702 00:38:44,364 --> 00:38:45,574 and he was scared she'd tell the police. 703 00:38:45,626 --> 00:38:47,106 So he got the trophy, 704 00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:49,329 and he said-- and I'm quoting here-- 705 00:38:49,369 --> 00:38:51,150 "I smashed her head in with it." 706 00:38:51,197 --> 00:38:53,108 Ooh, and now I'm thinking 707 00:38:53,155 --> 00:38:55,635 to myself, "Damn, it's a good thing 708 00:38:55,681 --> 00:38:57,510 "I'm not in the same cell with this guy, 709 00:38:57,552 --> 00:38:59,862 because he's a cold-blooded murderer."I-I can't listen to this. 710 00:38:59,902 --> 00:39:01,952 Objection!Yes, that will be stricken. 711 00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:03,951 ECKERT: And what did he say next? 712 00:39:03,992 --> 00:39:05,652 MANNING: That she was still alive even with the knives 713 00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:08,690 in her, so he got this, um, metal exercise bar. 714 00:39:08,737 --> 00:39:09,907 Uh... 715 00:39:09,956 --> 00:39:11,565 a QuadroBow, he called it. 716 00:39:13,699 --> 00:39:15,268 Sir, he said he whaled on her 717 00:39:15,309 --> 00:39:16,829 with that till she stopped moving. 718 00:39:16,876 --> 00:39:18,485 Okay, you fucking liar! 719 00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:20,530 Mr. Fisher!Why the fuck are you lying?! 720 00:39:20,574 --> 00:39:22,875 You will sit down, or I will have you shackled to your chair. 721 00:39:28,277 --> 00:39:30,498 SULLIVAN: Mr. Manning, you've been convicted 722 00:39:30,541 --> 00:39:33,072 of felony burglary, felony receiving stolen property 723 00:39:33,108 --> 00:39:36,108 and felony attempted robbery-- is that correct? 724 00:39:36,155 --> 00:39:37,545 Yes, sir. 725 00:39:37,592 --> 00:39:39,121 Is that before or after you found God? 726 00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,028 Objection.Withdrawn. 727 00:39:41,074 --> 00:39:42,994 Mr. Manning, when you met Eric, 728 00:39:43,032 --> 00:39:44,902 you were testifying against another inmate 729 00:39:44,947 --> 00:39:46,947 who had confessed to you, were you not? 730 00:39:46,992 --> 00:39:49,342 Mm-hmm.Isn't it true 731 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:50,907 that you've received detailed confessions 732 00:39:50,952 --> 00:39:53,432 in two other L.A. County homicides? 733 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:55,177 Yes, sir. 734 00:39:55,217 --> 00:39:58,307 It's amazing how inmates just seem to open up to you. 735 00:39:58,351 --> 00:40:00,181 Objection!Withdrawn. 736 00:40:00,222 --> 00:40:02,793 In fact, you're what's called a jailhouse snitch, 737 00:40:02,835 --> 00:40:04,224 isn't that right? Look, sir, 738 00:40:04,271 --> 00:40:05,931 I don't know what people call me, all right? 739 00:40:05,967 --> 00:40:08,748 Someone who testifies against other inmates 740 00:40:08,797 --> 00:40:11,097 in order to receive a reduction in their sentence. 741 00:40:11,146 --> 00:40:12,626 Yes, sometimes. 742 00:40:12,670 --> 00:40:14,981 And the better story you tell, the bigger reduction... 743 00:40:15,021 --> 00:40:17,070 ECKERT: Objection-- assumes facts that are not in evidence. 744 00:40:17,110 --> 00:40:18,289 WALSH: Sustained. 745 00:40:18,327 --> 00:40:19,588 Mr. Sullivan, don't make me 746 00:40:19,634 --> 00:40:21,204 admonish you again. 747 00:40:24,856 --> 00:40:26,817 In return for your testimony 748 00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:28,688 in this case, the D.A. got nine months 749 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:29,949 knocked off your sentence, right? 750 00:40:29,992 --> 00:40:31,652 Yes. 751 00:40:31,690 --> 00:40:33,690 And you say you know the facts of this murder 752 00:40:33,735 --> 00:40:35,074 because Eric Fisher confessed to you. 753 00:40:35,128 --> 00:40:36,777 Yes, sir, that's right. 754 00:40:36,824 --> 00:40:39,304 He barely knew you, but he just had to get it off his chest. 755 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:40,789 I'm sorry, is that a question, sir? 756 00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:41,958 Isn't it true, 757 00:40:42,003 --> 00:40:43,273 Mr. Manning, 758 00:40:43,309 --> 00:40:45,489 that you pieced together this confession 759 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:47,840 from the police report that Eric Fisher 760 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,489 gave you in the 7000 unit? 761 00:40:49,534 --> 00:40:50,934 No, sir, I would not do that. 762 00:40:50,969 --> 00:40:52,840 Really? No. 763 00:40:52,885 --> 00:40:54,574 Not even to get out of jail nine months early? 764 00:40:54,626 --> 00:40:57,106 No. 765 00:40:57,150 --> 00:40:58,929 No, I would not. 766 00:41:00,369 --> 00:41:02,980 I have nothing else for this witness. 767 00:41:26,788 --> 00:41:28,007 Mr. Fisher. 768 00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:29,659 Please rise. 769 00:41:29,704 --> 00:41:32,014 In the matter of The People of the State of California 770 00:41:32,054 --> 00:41:33,934 versus Eric Henry Fisher, 771 00:41:33,969 --> 00:41:37,018 case number 279LA31, 772 00:41:37,059 --> 00:41:39,708 the jury, in the above-entitled action, 773 00:41:39,757 --> 00:41:41,887 finds the defendant guilty 774 00:41:41,934 --> 00:41:44,333 of the charge of murder in the second degree. 775 00:41:44,371 --> 00:41:46,161 This court is adjourned. 776 00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:48,159 HENRY: This is wrong. This is... 777 00:41:49,681 --> 00:41:51,070 HENRY: Any... they didn't prove anything! 778 00:41:51,117 --> 00:41:52,726 It's all circumstantial. 779 00:41:52,771 --> 00:41:55,731 You know it. 780 00:41:55,773 --> 00:41:57,824 This is wrong. This is wrong. 781 00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,820 We're... Eric, we are going to appeal this. 782 00:42:01,867 --> 00:42:03,476 I promise you. Eric! 783 00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:05,090 Don't worry. I've got this. 784 00:42:05,130 --> 00:42:07,260 We'll make this right. 785 00:42:07,306 --> 00:42:08,916 Eric! 786 00:42:29,807 --> 00:42:31,807 Whoa. Uh, sorry. 787 00:42:31,853 --> 00:42:34,293 Hey, we're almost finished here, Mr. F. 788 00:43:03,449 --> 00:43:06,110 Well, looks clean to me. 789 00:43:06,148 --> 00:43:08,148 That's good. 790 00:43:08,193 --> 00:43:10,463 Don't want to leave a mess for the new owners. 791 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:12,500 No. 792 00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:17,460 So, uh, the movers and Trey can finish this up, 793 00:43:17,507 --> 00:43:21,286 and, uh, we can get on the road, okay? 794 00:43:21,336 --> 00:43:23,297 Our new life. 795 00:43:42,489 --> 00:43:44,969 That's the last of it. 796 00:43:45,012 --> 00:43:47,063 Uh, thank you, Trey. 797 00:43:47,101 --> 00:43:49,101 Thanks a lot. 798 00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:53,150 I got a call from a buddy of mine up north. 799 00:43:53,195 --> 00:43:55,454 He said he saw Chris Keller 800 00:43:55,501 --> 00:43:57,291 walking out of a flophouse in the Haight. 801 00:43:57,329 --> 00:43:59,940 Is that right? 802 00:43:59,985 --> 00:44:01,724 I was thinking 803 00:44:01,768 --> 00:44:03,768 of going up there, track him down, 804 00:44:03,815 --> 00:44:05,684 get him to tell me what happened on tape. 805 00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:06,820 Oh, what do you mean? 806 00:44:06,860 --> 00:44:08,731 S-Some kind of admission? 807 00:44:08,775 --> 00:44:10,556 Eric didn't do it. 808 00:44:10,603 --> 00:44:12,873 I wouldn't mind getting him out. 809 00:44:15,739 --> 00:44:17,659 Any way you could front me a little cash? 810 00:44:17,697 --> 00:44:19,958 I can crash with friends when I get up there, but... 811 00:44:21,092 --> 00:44:23,143 Bus fare. 812 00:44:23,181 --> 00:44:24,842 Whatever. 813 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,621 Yeah. Uh... 814 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,280 Uh, I don't know. Why don't... 815 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,969 Why don't you just take his car? 816 00:44:33,018 --> 00:44:34,057 The pony? 817 00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:36,889 Nah. 818 00:44:36,934 --> 00:44:40,364 I... I couldn't. 819 00:44:40,416 --> 00:44:42,715 No, it... it's all right. 820 00:44:42,766 --> 00:44:44,806 You sure? 821 00:44:51,862 --> 00:44:53,563 Here you go. 822 00:44:55,735 --> 00:44:57,126 I'll take good care of her. 823 00:44:57,172 --> 00:44:59,442 You're his friend, and... 824 00:44:59,478 --> 00:45:00,998 he'd want you to have it. 825 00:45:02,873 --> 00:45:05,494 Well... 826 00:45:05,527 --> 00:45:07,918 thank you. 827 00:45:11,751 --> 00:45:14,021 I'm gonna find Chris Keller. 828 00:45:14,059 --> 00:45:16,188 Swear to God. 829 00:47:00,512 --> 00:47:02,563 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 57438

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