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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:48,100 The thing inside of me, it's like... 2 00:01:50,060 --> 00:01:51,610 the appetite, it's like a wolf that's... 3 00:01:53,860 --> 00:01:56,530 feeling... the hunger. 4 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,330 On the surface, he seems to be a cleaned-up member of society. 5 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:51,870 He's clean-cut, looks like the boy next door. 6 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,710 And yet, if we just dig, not very hard, 7 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,000 we figure out this is someone who's gotten himself 8 00:02:57,010 --> 00:02:58,220 in and out of trouble. 9 00:02:58,340 --> 00:03:02,680 I think Moulton is somebody who engages in congenial ways 10 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,720 of interacting with people. 11 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:05,850 It's what we think of in psychopathic individuals 12 00:03:05,850 --> 00:03:07,180 as superficial charm. 13 00:03:07,310 --> 00:03:10,020 He's glib. He's easily relatable. 14 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:12,400 He talks to people in a friendly way. 15 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,110 And so he can pass in a very chameleon-like way. 16 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:17,730 He passes as somebody who's a law-abiding, 17 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:20,030 upstanding member of society when we know that his history 18 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:21,450 really doesn't support that. 19 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,430 By now, he could easily have just said, "I did this." 20 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,440 "Doesn't matter why I did it. I just did it." 21 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,480 But instead, he is trying to convince other people 22 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,480 that he's not such a bad guy 23 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,320 because it was all of these other 24 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,320 external influencers that were compelling him 25 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,820 to engage in this behavior. 26 00:04:47,950 --> 00:04:50,950 But he was administering his steroids to himself. 27 00:04:50,950 --> 00:04:52,450 He was using drugs himself. 28 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:55,670 He's just using these things as a way of explaining away 29 00:04:55,790 --> 00:04:58,500 his behavior rather than taking responsibility. 30 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:00,840 It's just a tool. It's just a tactic. 31 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:01,960 He knows he's going to prison. 32 00:05:02,090 --> 00:05:04,050 He just wants the least amount of time in it. 33 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,890 When Moulton introduces his son as a concept 34 00:06:32,010 --> 00:06:35,270 in this interview, he's not being asked about his family. 35 00:06:35,390 --> 00:06:37,890 What he's doing is what we call impression management. 36 00:06:38,020 --> 00:06:41,100 Again, as he goes right up to the line with detectives 37 00:06:41,230 --> 00:06:44,570 about this awful, sadistic crime he committed, 38 00:06:44,690 --> 00:06:46,940 he's backpedaling and saying, "But I'm a nice guy." 39 00:06:46,940 --> 00:06:49,070 Like, "You can trust me. I'm a family man." 40 00:07:40,620 --> 00:07:42,620 There's a little bit of self-awareness there, 41 00:07:42,620 --> 00:07:45,130 like where he said, "I had this void." 42 00:07:45,130 --> 00:07:47,670 And that is probably a real reflection 43 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:49,300 of what he actually feels. 44 00:07:49,420 --> 00:07:51,680 And this is something that has been said multiple times 45 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,720 about the way psychopaths feel when they're actually willing 46 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,050 to state their true feelings. 47 00:07:57,060 --> 00:07:59,680 The void is from not feeling empathy. 48 00:07:59,810 --> 00:08:01,730 If you don't feel close to any person, 49 00:08:01,730 --> 00:08:04,810 'cause you can't feel love, imagine the void you would feel. 50 00:08:49,270 --> 00:08:52,110 Certainly, Moulton would not be the first psychopath that 51 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,070 conveniently found God 52 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:57,490 as a way of helping to just cleanse themselves 53 00:08:57,490 --> 00:08:59,830 and distance themselves from their actions. 54 00:08:59,830 --> 00:09:02,120 It's a way of saying, "I did this horrific thing, 55 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:04,830 but you can't think of me as a horrific person," 56 00:09:04,830 --> 00:09:07,250 which is that image manipulation. 57 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:11,590 And if I take it and put it behind me on my terms, 58 00:09:11,710 --> 00:09:13,090 I control the narrative, 59 00:09:13,090 --> 00:09:15,010 I control the way this goes down, 60 00:09:15,010 --> 00:09:17,390 and I can probably even control the consequences. 61 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:37,050 He's talking about squeezing the life out of Nicole, 62 00:10:37,170 --> 00:10:39,050 that she just goes limp. 63 00:10:39,050 --> 00:10:42,390 That is the one time that he's actually being descriptive 64 00:10:42,510 --> 00:10:43,890 without prompting. 65 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:47,520 That was the piece that excited him the most. 66 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,350 His deviancy is about pushing life to its very limit. 67 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,770 It wasn't about anger. 68 00:10:53,770 --> 00:10:57,110 It wasn't about these crimes-of-passion moments. 69 00:10:57,110 --> 00:11:01,860 It was simply about satisfying and gratifying his own needs 70 00:11:01,870 --> 00:11:03,990 and by taking the life of someone else. 71 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,180 When we look at the different categories of psychopathy, 72 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:49,680 there's always an element 73 00:12:49,810 --> 00:12:52,810 of boundary crossing and antisociality. 74 00:12:52,810 --> 00:12:55,850 But the sexual psychopath is a little bit different in that 75 00:12:55,850 --> 00:12:58,900 the primary boundary that they're looking to cross 76 00:12:58,900 --> 00:13:01,030 is the sexual boundary. 77 00:13:01,150 --> 00:13:05,700 Other people can certainly achieve their full gratification 78 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:09,410 just through the act of strangulation itself, 79 00:13:09,410 --> 00:13:13,330 but I think Moulton has progressed in his deviancy 80 00:13:13,330 --> 00:13:16,870 where just doing the behavior isn't enough. 81 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,150 There's a lack of remorse and a shallow affect. 82 00:14:25,150 --> 00:14:27,490 And this is what we're seeing in Moulton, 83 00:14:27,610 --> 00:14:30,320 is that while on the surface it sounds like he's 84 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,450 taking responsibility for his actions 85 00:14:32,450 --> 00:14:35,660 and he's also expressing some very pro-social attitudes, 86 00:14:35,790 --> 00:14:37,700 you know, "I'm concerned for them 87 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:39,330 and the dangerous people that are out there," 88 00:14:39,330 --> 00:14:41,670 but if you listen closely to what he's saying, 89 00:14:41,790 --> 00:14:43,460 he's actually blaming the victims. 90 00:14:43,460 --> 00:14:45,840 They shouldn't be getting into cars with strangers, 91 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,220 not, "I shouldn't be out there preying on women." 92 00:15:41,140 --> 00:15:43,940 I want people to understand that the psychopath 93 00:15:45,020 --> 00:15:47,770 can feel fear, 94 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:52,240 and they can feel fear similar to those around them 95 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,070 who are not psychopaths. 96 00:15:54,070 --> 00:15:57,700 They just can't read the fear from other people. 97 00:15:57,830 --> 00:16:01,410 And so it is a feeling that is wholly unique, 98 00:16:01,410 --> 00:16:04,120 and they're unable to truly deal with 99 00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:07,960 and they mask it with anger and violence, right? 100 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,880 They mask it with drugs and alcohol. 101 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,470 The constant paranoia of having to look over your shoulder. 102 00:16:13,470 --> 00:16:15,600 "Are the police gonna come arrest me now?" 103 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,260 All of these thoughts can kind of rattle in your head, 104 00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:21,390 and maybe those things broke containment and escaped 105 00:16:21,390 --> 00:16:24,140 their compartmentalization to the point where now he has 106 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:25,440 to reveal this kind of stuff. 107 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,440 The importance is exactly in the point she makes 108 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,980 that he's had a decade to think about this. 109 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:11,780 And you don't just develop empathy and remorse 110 00:17:11,780 --> 00:17:13,320 over slow periods of time. 111 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,990 You either have it or you don't by the time you're in your 40s. 112 00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:19,950 Empathy, conscience, 113 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,660 that sort of understanding of right versus wrong, 114 00:17:23,790 --> 00:17:27,170 and the concept of consequences when you harm another 115 00:17:27,170 --> 00:17:30,840 human being, most children develop before the age of five. 116 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,630 So if you don't have it by the time you're 10, 15, 117 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,220 20 years old, 118 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,510 you don't just wake up one day at 40 or 41, 119 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:40,140 pick up a religious text and, "aha," you have it. 120 00:17:40,140 --> 00:17:43,140 The religion is nothing other than a convenient explanation 121 00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:46,890 and a way of trying to minimize the consequences to himself. 122 00:19:24,910 --> 00:19:27,450 For any of us, the reasonable question is, 123 00:19:27,580 --> 00:19:29,160 why would you tell your child this? 124 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,170 It's a completely inappropriate topic to have. 125 00:19:33,170 --> 00:19:36,130 But again, what you hear is, he's blaming 126 00:19:36,250 --> 00:19:37,500 everyone but himself. 127 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:40,300 He's not taking responsibility for his actions. 128 00:19:40,420 --> 00:19:44,640 And Moulton is in many ways a textbook narcissist. 129 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,010 He's focused on himself. 130 00:19:47,010 --> 00:19:50,940 And his attempts to talk to his son about his crimes 131 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:53,480 are, again, about impression management. 132 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,270 He's explaining away his behavior. 133 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,440 He's not saying, "I didn't have sex with these women." 134 00:19:57,570 --> 00:20:00,610 He's not challenging in his own head as a parent, 135 00:20:00,610 --> 00:20:04,610 "I have a teenage son who's coming of age, 136 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:06,780 "and I'm communicating a lot of messages about sex, 137 00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:10,120 sexuality, and how you treat the opposite gender." 138 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:12,460 But instead, he's just making it about himself. 11442

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