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Greetings, Bill Nye here.
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Like everyone you've ever
met, I am native to the Earth.
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We'll represent the Earth
with this blue circle.
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Another object you're
familiar with, the Sun.
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Closer to us than the
Sun is the Earth's Moon.
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The Moon right here, Moon.
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Rays of sunlight, they're
streaming through the blackness
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of space.
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And once in a while, the
Moon casts a dark shadow
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on the Earth.
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So if you're in the path of
this shadow, you see an eclipse.
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An eclipse is something that
has engendered curiosity
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in personkind
throughout history.
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Seeing the sky go dark, the
crickets chirping in the middle
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of the day.
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It creates a spectacular
phenomenon here on the Earth.
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The solar eclipse
happening in August 2026,
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is going to have
a path of totality
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that people will travel across
the world to be able to catch
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a glimpse of.
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The fact is that the Moon has
a very romantic and seductive
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quality when it
comes to our lore.
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And that's the moon that
we get to now go to.
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We're going back to
the freaking Moon!
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The space race,
heating up once again.
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China launching its latest
mission to the Moon.
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[rocket roaring]
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The Chinese will land their
Taikonauts on the Moon.
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The question is,
do we return first?
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It's the US and its
billionaires against China.
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For better or for worse, the
American chance at getting back
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to the Moon depends
on Elon Musk.
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He's an immensely
complicated, immensely
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accomplished, immensely
problematic figure.
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And Jeff Bezos is trying to
muscle in on that territory.
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With Blue Origin or SpaceX,
you've placed the entire lunar
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return effort on two people.
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That's a huge risk.
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And it's troubling
to a lot of people
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that they might increase their
power by leveraging space to get
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more of what they want on Earth.
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My first rocket launch was
watching the Curiosity Rover
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launch to Mars.
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And I was sitting with the
entire scientific team who had
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worked, in some cases,
for decades, planning,
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designing, building.
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And so you had the collective
dreams and efforts and blood
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and sweat and tears of
hundreds of people, all
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depending on that one
rocket not blowing up.
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Main engine start, 0 and liftoff
of the Atlas V with Curiosity.
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[cheering on radio]
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And then when you
see it take off,
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it is brighter than
you can imagine.
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It is louder than
you can imagine.
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And then the crowd itself
reacts, screaming, watching it
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going up into space,
never to return.
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The vision of all of NASA is
that rocket launches become
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routine, right?
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[rocket roaring]
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SpaceX has revolutionized
the launch industry.
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And liftoff of the
Falcon 9 rocket.
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Go SpaceX.
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Go NASA crew 10.
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These days, SpaceX launches at
least a couple of times a week.
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About 90% of the
US space program
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is being carried by SpaceX.
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They really have far exceeded
anyone's expectations.
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Holy [bleep] You did it.
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[cheers, applause]
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Oh, my god.
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Elon Musk founded SpaceX in 2002
and it was very much a
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passion project.
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He'd been a young kid
reading Hitchhiker's Guide
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to the Galaxy, and he just
dreamed of getting our country
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back into space
and going to Mars.
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I've always been
interested in space,
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but I didn't think that there
was anything that I could do
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as a single individual.
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I thought space was really
the arena of government.
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He's driving back from Long
Island with some friends,
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and they were trying to figure
out how is NASA going to get us
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to Mars.
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Sort of started looking into it.
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And I went to NASA website
to find out when we're going
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to Mars, because it seems
like, obviously, that is
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the next thing after the Moon.
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And I couldn't find anything.
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So I was like, wow,
this seems very strange.
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And so he says, I'm
going to start a company.
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All of his friends
think he's nuts.
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And so they made a highlights
reel of rockets blowing up--
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[explosion]
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--hoping that would
talk him out of it.
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And he said, no, man, that
just strengthened my resolve.
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Elon Musk very much saw himself
as someone that could invest
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his own money into
reinvigorating these very bold,
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outlandish ambitions.
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He's very entrepreneurial.
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He did a Yellow Pages company,
putting the Yellow Pages online.
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And then he moved into a
payments company called x.com.
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Big X.
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Exactly, x.com.
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I think x.com could absolutely
be a multibillion
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dollar bonanza.
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It had a big rival and they end
up merging, calling it PayPal.
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When I met Elon Musk years ago,
he was introduced as Elon Musk,
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founder of PayPal.
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And as I like to joke, it was as
though it was all one word, Elon
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Musk, founder of PayPal,
I'd like you to meet Bill.
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Hi, Elon Musk,
founder of PayPal.
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Now, he gets eased out because
he's a difficult person to work
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with, but he takes the
buyout from PayPal.
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So he does SpaceX
and then Tesla,
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and then he keeps
inventing new things.
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It wasn't as though I thought
of what are all the businesses
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that one could do, and then
which is going to be the easiest
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one to make the most
amount of money?
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It wasn't anything like that.
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It was really from the
standpoint of, what are the most
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important problems in the
world that need to get solved?
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And let me try to
help solve those.
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I remember him talking
about rockets early
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and he was compelling.
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His vision was compelling.
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The goal of SpaceX is
to revolutionize space
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transportation by dramatically
improving the cost
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and the reliability, and by
building rockets that are
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large enough and capable
enough to go to other planets,
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really, Mars in particular.
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So basically, the rockets we use
to send astronauts to the Moon,
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that was a disposable rocket.
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The entire concept of SpaceX was
develop a rocket that doesn't
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just fly once, it can
fly multiple times.
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[tools whirring]
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[upbeat rock music]
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They start building hardware
right away, making mistakes,
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blowing things up.
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[explosion]
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It's this interesting
transference of Silicon
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Valley, right?
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It's called you fail fast.
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And in a way, that could
only happen because it wasn't
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a government agency.
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NASA blows up one rocket,
it's in the news for a month.
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Look at the failure of NASA.
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Elon blows up a rocket and
people are like, look at him,
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he's really pushing the
discovery of space exploration.
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You'd watch Musk walk around and
he'd get really angry, even late
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at night, if there weren't
enough people building something
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or getting the launch pad ready.
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And you'd say, why
are you doing this?
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The real motivation, my real
motivation, the motivation
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people at SpaceX and the
reason they work so, so hard
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is because we want to see
an exciting future in
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space exploration.
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If we're not on a path to get
there, we'll never get there.
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Musk was forthright back
in the early days of SpaceX
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about how uncertain he
was that SpaceX would ever
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be a profitable or
sustainable business at all.
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But after some trial and
error, they did figure it out.
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SpaceX in 2015 caught a
booster for the first time,
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refurbished it, flew it again.
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[cheers, applause]
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And this marked the time at
which SpaceX really morphed
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from this underdog into
a dominant space power.
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[upbeat rock music]
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Elon pretty much self-funded
SpaceX in the beginning,
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but along the way, he found
things that would be very
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commercially successful, most
notably putting satellites
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into low Earth orbit.
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When he started talking
about that at the time,
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I thought it was brilliant.
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I continue to think
it's brilliant.
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[rocket roaring]
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A giant leap for SpaceX, the
company launching a rocket
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full of 60 satellites overnight.
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Starlink is SpaceX's
biggest moneymaker.
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It's a large constellation
of satellites that basically
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reflect and provide internet
access across the world
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to anybody, anywhere.
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They've launched over
10,000 satellites.
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It's more than any other
company in the world.
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It's more than any other
country in the world.
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Musk controls a great
deal of access to space.
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And so the more reliant we get
on SpaceX, one future could be,
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the more reliant we are on Musk.
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NASA has chosen SpaceX
to return us to the Moon.
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We are in a great competition
with a rival that has the will
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and the means to challenge
American exceptionalism
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across multiple domains,
including in the high ground
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of space.
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The Trump administration
has made it absolutely clear
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that its top priority in space
now is to beat China back
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to the Moon.
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China is saying it wants
to get to the Moon by 2030.
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So every step has to fall
exactly right into place
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if the United States is
going to get there before.
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SpaceX is using its massive,
gargantuan Starship rocket
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for this purpose.
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I mean, Starship is just big.
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It's really, really big.
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It's almost like going back
to Bugs Bunny cartoons from
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the 1940s and how they
represent spaceships--
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[whooshing, dramatic music]
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--is kind of what
Starship is like.
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[intriguing music]
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SpaceX wants this rocket to
work not just to get astronauts
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to the Moon, but
also to get to Mars.
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And so far, they've done test
flights with varying degrees
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of success.
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[rocket roaring]
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It is hard to describe
how much of a step
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Starship would be
if it succeeds.
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And that's the
operative word is "if."
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Late 2025, there started
to be rumblings in NASA
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that, oh, my god, if we
continue to depend on Musk,
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we're going to lose
the space race.
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And it was the ex-acting
NASA administrator Sean Duffy
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last year, who said that if
SpaceX doesn't have Starship,
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its lunar lander, ready for our
use, then we'll use Blue Origin.
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And it was a very overt way of
saying, if SpaceX doesn't focus,
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we'll go with the competitor,
and really teeing up
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this billionaire space race.
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[rocket rumbling]
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[intriguing music]
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It's kind of underappreciated
that Blue Origin was founded
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a couple of years before SpaceX.
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Bezos started the company
in 2000 when he became
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a billionaire with Amazon.
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He had the funds to pour money
into starting to make space
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exploration technology that was
cheaper than we had seen it.
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And the company really operated
in stealth mode for a long time,
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and that was by design.
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They famously have a tortoise as
a mascot, and they have a Latin
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motto, "Gradatim Ferociter,"
which means "Step by
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Step, Ferociously."
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SpaceX has always
been, you fail fast.
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Blue Origin, which is infinitely
well capitalized by Jeff Bezos'
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Amazon money, has only launched
two of its larger rockets
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into space.
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[triumphant music]
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Bezos has said for a long time
that the tortoise beats the hare
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and that he's going to go
slow and steady and careful,
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but in the end, he's going to
win this kind of like battle
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of the billionaires.
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Welcome back to
Earth, First Step.
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Congratulations to all of you.
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Their first major project was
building the new Shepard rocket,
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which is very different
than the Falcon rockets
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that SpaceX flies
because it's suborbital.
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Suborbital rockets
require far less power,
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and they just go up and down.
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You might remember that he
sent up a rocket that brought
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his then girlfriend, Lauren
Sanchez and Katy Perry
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up in the near orbit.
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[laughs]
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I think a lot of people thought
it was kind of a cheap
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publicity stunt.
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Is it a PR stunt?
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Who cares?
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It brings attention
to space travel.
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At the end of the day, I think
their ambitions are much bigger
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than tourism.
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If we move out into
the solar system,
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for all practical purposes,
we have unlimited resources.
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One of the things that Musk and
Bezos have in common is as kids,
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they loved science fiction.
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Some town resident had donated
his entire science fiction
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collection to the
Cotulla Public Library.
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Just teensy, probably half
the library was these science
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fiction books.
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And I read, over
several Summers,
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I read through that
collection of science fiction,
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and that added to my interest
in space travel and science
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and the future.
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Jeff Bezos loves to talk about
how when he was at Princeton,
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he met Gerard O'Neill, who is a
very famous astrophysicist who
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conceptualized this idea of
O'Neill Colonies, which are
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these giant orbiting
laboratories that spin to
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create gravity.
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These are very large
structures, miles on end,
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and they hold a million
people or more each.
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We get to preserve this
unique gem of a planet which
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is completely irreplaceable.
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There is no plan B. We
have to save this planet.
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He said explicitly his goal is
to save planet Earth by moving
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industry off the
planet into space.
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We were given a gift, this
nearby body called the Moon.
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[cheers, applause]
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This is Blue Moon.
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We've been working on this
lander for three years.
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Jeff Bezos has definitely
talked about becoming the Amazon
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of space.
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How he is building
the transportation
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services so that hundreds
of other space companies
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can start doing economic
activity in space.
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In 1994, I started Amazon.
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All of the heavy-lifting
infrastructure needed for Amazon
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to exist was already in place.
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We did not have to build a
transportation system to
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deliver packages.
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It was there.
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Infrastructure lets
entrepreneurs do amazing things.
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So the kids here
and your children
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and their grandchildren, they're
going to build those
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O'Neill colonies.
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This generation's job,
my generation's job,
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is to build the infrastructure
so that you'll be able to.
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Jeff Bezos is a really
great entrepreneur,
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there's no question.
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What he did at Amazon was
astonishing, and a lot of people
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didn't think he
could pull it off.
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He would not allow the
company to make money.
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He was like, no, we're not done.
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Scale is what it's about now.
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So we're actually going to
own the pipes of the internet
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and be the arbiter of who
can sell on the internet.
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I mean, it's evil,
but it's genius.
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[chuckles]
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[soft dramatic music]
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I'm taking my Amazon
lottery winnings,
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and I'm converting them into
reusable rocket vehicles
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so that we can lower the
cost of access to space.
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There's an enthusiasm to him,
an enthusiasm that pushes things
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like crazy.
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He's a visionary.
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This vision sounds
very big, and it is.
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None of this is easy.
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All of it is hard.
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We choose to go to the Moon.
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[applause]
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We choose to go to the
Moon in this decade
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and do the other things,
not because they are easy,
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but because they are hard.
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[rocket roaring]
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The space race with US and
the Soviet Union in the past
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was really all about proving
that our system of government
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and our system of economics
could beat the Soviet model.
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If we could beat
them to the Moon,
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then it was a demonstration that
our entire system was better
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than the Soviet system.
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[rocket rumbling]
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On October 4, 1957, a
world-stirring event took place.
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Sputnik was the first spacecraft
that orbited the Earth.
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It was launched by
the Soviet Union.
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Now, imagine if we were
living back at a time
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where nothing had ever orbited
the Earth before, and suddenly
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those Communists over there
in Russia with nuclear bombs
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that they want to
rain down on us,
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they are flying over
our country in space.
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The ultimate high ground.
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If you could have
weapons in space,
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man, you'd really be in charge.
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With two Sputniks orbiting
the Earth simultaneously,
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the whole world began to
speak about the triumph
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of Soviet science.
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The Soviet Union also launched
the first human in space,
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Yuri Gagarin.
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The space pilot whom the
Russians have deified as the man
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of the century, arrives at
the airport outside of Moscow
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for his first public appearance.
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And so that created
this crash program
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to catch up to the Soviet
Union and to beat them.
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[dramatic music]
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I certainly remember
watching Apollo 11.
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So I was on my knees,
black and white television.
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OK, Neil, we can see you
coming down the ladder now.
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One in every five people
was watching this thing.
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That's one small step for man--
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And we see that humans have
finally escaped this gravity.
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--one giant leap for mankind.
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And it changed my life.
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I became a mechanical engineer.
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I became an aerospace
engineer because of Apollo.
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Come on, man.
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Hugely affected by it, hugely.
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I think it sent a message to the
world what the United States was
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capable of doing.
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If you can set out and
achieve the near-impossible,
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send astronauts to the Moon and
bring them back home safely,
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I wonder what else the
nation is capable of doing?
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And maybe I'll think
twice as an adversary
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before I encroach
or do something that
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could be perceived as hostile.
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In a sense, that was the
pinnacle of American power.
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[soft dramatic music]
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Every mission
subsequently from that
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started to gain
confidence and ambition.
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But by the time that
Apollo 15 launched,
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the program had
functionally ended.
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It became clear the Soviet
Union was kind of going out
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of business.
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There was this feeling
that, OK, we've had our fun
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and we don't have the
wherewithal, resources, or money
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to do this anymore.
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That was a correct
read of public opinion.
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It no longer seemed that urgent
to keep going back to the Moon.
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[tense music]
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[the prisoners, "going back"]
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During the 1970s, during the
Apollo program, Richard Nixon
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made the decision to cancel
the rest of the program
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because there was
political backlash.
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People didn't see
the value of it.
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You also have to look at the
cultural background of what was
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happening in America
at this time.
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The Vietnam War was becoming
an increasingly big part
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of the American psyche.
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Free our brothers!
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And there were more
protests and demonstrations
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that made space
exploration, by comparison,
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seem sort of frivolous.
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Your marginal cost of an
Apollo mission was not cheap.
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And so people wondered why
were we spending so much money
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on this when we've got poverty,
we've got riots in the US,
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we've got energy problems
with the Middle East.
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In that environment, they made
the political decision to
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cancel it.
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After retiring the
Apollo program,
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NASA understood
the cost problem.
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Every Apollo rocket
had to be thrown away.
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That's why it went into
developing a different type
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of vehicle.
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[upbeat rock music]
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If you can reuse it, we'll
start bringing down the cost,
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and then NASA can go achieve all
those exploration and science
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dreams without needing to pull
too much out of public coffers.
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NASA has been extra cautious in
making sure the first launch is
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textbook perfect.
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So we moved on into
the space shuttle era.
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There's a lot on the line.
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Nixon himself decided to go
with the Space Shuttle Program
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in order to win votes
in Southern California.
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Unfortunately, the space shuttle
never really became exactly what
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NASA envisioned.
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The goal was to launch the space
shuttle dozens of times a year,
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but the most NASA ever
achieved was roughly, I think,
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eight or nine launches
in a single year.
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And then Challenger happened.
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Major catastrophe in
America's space program.
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Challenger, only seconds
after leaving the launch pad,
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according to NASA, has
exploded in mid-air.
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We do not have any
more information
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than is being provided to
the public at this time.
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And then the Columbia
disaster in 2003.
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You are looking at what is
the final moments of the Space
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Shuttle Columbia.
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The two shuttle
disasters in total
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killed 14 different astronauts.
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The tragedies were becoming
so politically unpopular.
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So the Shuttle Program
was starting to wind down.
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But this was a problem because
the shuttle was the only vehicle
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that the United States had that
was capable of taking astronauts
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to and from the
International Space Station.
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When the space
shuttle was ending,
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the Obama White House proposed a
dramatic reconfiguration of NASA
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to rely on commercial providers
to send individuals to the
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Space Station.
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In order to reach
the Space Station,
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we will work with a growing
array of private companies
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competing to make getting
to space easier and
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more affordable.
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[applause]
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This goes back to the
original conceptions of space.
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You think about 2001--
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A Space Odyssey, it's Pan
Am as running the flights up
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to their space
station in that movie,
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like a commercial aviation
company at the time.
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[JOHANN STRAUSS II, "THE BLUE
DANUBE WALTZ"]
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So the Obama administration
put a lot of political capital
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to championing this commercial
capability, which primarily was
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a SpaceX capability at the time.
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[upbeat funk music]
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What I think we're
beginning to see
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is the dawn of a new era
of space exploration,
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but one that is driven by
commercial companies as much,
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if not more, than by government.
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NASA awarded SpaceX a contract
for, I think it was about
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$1.6 billion.
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NASA has awarded us the
contract to provide the majority
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of the cargo to
the Space Station,
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and to return cargo to Earth.
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The thing we're really hoping
will occur this year is
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that NASA will ask us to do
astronaut transport as well.
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Back in 2010, Elon Musk was
giving President Obama a tour
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of his facilities and
showing him the progress
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that SpaceX was
making at the time.
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This is the most advanced
rocket in the world.
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And this was a demonstration
that the Obama administration
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was putting a lot
of political effort
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to supporting a
commercial approach.
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NASA has always relied on
commercial companies, always.
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But what is different
is civil servants
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used to design the rocket.
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Now that's being
designed by civilians
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working for corporations, not
working for the government.
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The way that NASA works
with SpaceX and Blue Origin
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00:25:24,330 --> 00:25:27,500
is that NASA relies on them
to basically do most of it.
499
00:25:27,670 --> 00:25:29,500
And then if it doesn't
happen, NASA is not
500
00:25:29,670 --> 00:25:31,130
on the hook to pay extra.
501
00:25:31,170 --> 00:25:33,630
But at the same time, they don't
have the ability to really get
502
00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:36,590
down into the weeds and
understand what's going on.
503
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,350
There is definitely going
to be a new industry.
504
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:40,680
It's going to be stronger.
505
00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:42,520
It's going to be more
powerful, more capable,
506
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,350
and it's going to ensure that we
take things to a whole new level
507
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,150
in terms of spaceflight.
508
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:50,020
[tense music]
509
00:25:52,150 --> 00:25:55,650
Then in 2017, Trump signed
the Space Policy Directive 1.
510
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:57,030
[applause]
511
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,200
The directive I'm signing today
will refocus America's space
512
00:26:00,370 --> 00:26:04,120
program on human
exploration and discovery.
513
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,710
[dramatic music]
514
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:08,540
President Trump created
the Artemis Program.
515
00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:10,960
He made it clear that we
are returning to the Moon
516
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,380
to stay, to build a base.
517
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,210
And you want to be able
to keep astronauts alive,
518
00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:15,720
potentially six
months at a time.
519
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,300
So as a result, we
need affordability.
520
00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:19,720
And liftoff.
521
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,850
Right now, you have two
companies, SpaceX and Blue
522
00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:24,560
Origin, that are
working on vehicles that
523
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,060
will be able to bring our
astronauts to the surface
524
00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:28,560
of the Moon.
525
00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:33,230
And thus begins a very long
battle between Elon Musk's
526
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,740
SpaceX and Jeff
Bezos's Blue Origin,
527
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,910
to be the first company to
produce that lunar lander
528
00:26:39,070 --> 00:26:40,660
that NASA is asking for.
529
00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:42,990
And liftoff of Artemis I.
530
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,910
The Artemis program right now
kind of envisions a series
531
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,920
of test flights.
532
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,500
Artemis I was a test flight
with no astronauts on it.
533
00:26:52,590 --> 00:26:56,840
Artemis II was four crew
going around the Moon.
534
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,550
Artemis III will be a
demonstration mission in Earth
535
00:27:01,590 --> 00:27:05,890
orbit to show that their crew
capsule can dock with one
536
00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:09,270
of these commercially
provided lunar landers.
537
00:27:09,390 --> 00:27:14,270
Artemis IV is scheduled to
be the first lunar landing,
538
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,110
sometime before 2030.
539
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,570
Artemis V starts to frankly,
get a little hazy after that.
540
00:27:20,610 --> 00:27:24,950
The goal now is to build
out a permanent lunar base.
541
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,790
Why do you want to have
people on the Moon?
542
00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:30,710
The Moon is a great
place for resources,
543
00:27:30,790 --> 00:27:33,920
and so if you want to build
big structures in space,
544
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,300
you want to go get
materials from the Moon.
545
00:27:36,420 --> 00:27:37,800
What resources would
be on the Moon?
546
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,430
There's a couple of things
that are fascinating.
547
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:44,600
We know with absolute certainty
that there's water on the Moon.
548
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,980
Water on the Moon is
fuel, like oil on Earth.
549
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:54,110
So now China, private
corporations, the US, all trying
550
00:27:54,150 --> 00:27:57,280
to get to the Moon
to get to that water.
551
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,990
Because if you separate the
H2O, now you have hydrogen
552
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:05,740
and oxygen. You can
bring them back together.
553
00:28:05,780 --> 00:28:10,000
It creates [puffs air]
boom, out into space.
554
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,170
You do that from the Moon,
you save a lot of money.
555
00:28:13,290 --> 00:28:16,000
Another one that's talked
about is going to be AI.
556
00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:19,130
Within a few years, data centers
are going to start appearing
557
00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:20,420
in space.
558
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:22,800
The value of having a
data center in space
559
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,260
as opposed to the Earth, is that
you have ready access to energy
560
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:29,020
through the Sun.
561
00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:31,180
People don't like living
next to data centers
562
00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:33,190
and so well, if you
put them in the space,
563
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:35,020
all that stuff goes away.
564
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:38,110
This is about establishing
an outpost on the Moon
565
00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:40,190
for scientific operations.
566
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,030
And then obviously there is
just a lot of inspiration that's
567
00:28:43,150 --> 00:28:47,030
going to come out of having
humankind's first outpost
568
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,040
on another world.
569
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,370
I have no doubt we're going
to launch Artemis III in 2027.
570
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:56,210
So SpaceX and Blue Origin are
both racing to bring their lunar
571
00:28:56,380 --> 00:29:01,710
landers to fruition, and both
are in very different stages.
572
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,300
Blue Origin had this
spectacular failure recently.
573
00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:10,520
The moment a Blue Origin
rocket exploded overnight.
574
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,480
And SpaceX, which has
had a couple issues.
575
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,020
What in the heck?
576
00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:18,820
And of course, the head of
SpaceX is a controversial guy.
577
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:21,230
Now we see space moving
from a collective effort
578
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,660
into an individualized
capability that is represented
579
00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:27,200
by a person.
580
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,240
NASA is running a risk of not
owning the hardware that's
581
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:35,080
required for it to succeed,
but also the reputation itself,
582
00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:38,880
to a large part, is defined
by Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk.
583
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,380
NASA is saving some money,
but it's introducing a host
584
00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:44,260
of other risks that they've
never had to deal with before.
585
00:29:47,090 --> 00:29:49,510
[dramatic music]
586
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,850
[rocket roars]
587
00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:55,270
Right now, most space activity
is being conducted by a few very
588
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:57,980
wealthy companies and
wealthy individuals.
589
00:29:58,020 --> 00:29:59,110
Elon!
590
00:29:59,190 --> 00:30:00,480
Elon, right here!
591
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,520
Jeff!
592
00:30:01,690 --> 00:30:02,360
Jeff!
593
00:30:02,530 --> 00:30:03,190
On the left!
594
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,530
Jeff!
595
00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:08,030
And I think that space industry
is going to create more
596
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,120
concentration of wealth than
anything the world has
597
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,540
seen before.
598
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,540
One of the most highly
anticipated IPOs in years, Elon
599
00:30:15,710 --> 00:30:18,880
Musk, rang the opening bell
in celebration of its IPO
600
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,500
on NASDAQ.
601
00:30:20,540 --> 00:30:22,840
We've got these billionaires
playing larger and larger roles
602
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,380
in our lives.
603
00:30:24,550 --> 00:30:27,300
We have never seen a company
firing on all 12,000 cylinders
604
00:30:27,380 --> 00:30:28,550
like we're seeing Amazon.
605
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,550
They control what we
see, what we read.
606
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,060
Jeff Bezos, the founder
and CEO of amazon.com,
607
00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:37,020
is buying The Washington Post.
608
00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:39,650
They have ownership over
seemingly everything.
609
00:30:39,730 --> 00:30:41,230
And it can make us numb.
610
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,860
But this is next Level, like
literally in orbit and in space.
611
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:48,240
Today, Elon Musk broke
history, becoming the world's
612
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,410
first trillionaire.
613
00:30:50,530 --> 00:30:51,990
He's not motivated
by money, but I
614
00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:54,740
think he's motivated by becoming
the world's first trillionaire.
615
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:58,250
He almost feels like he's an
avatar in his own video game,
616
00:30:58,370 --> 00:31:00,170
and he's racking up the points.
617
00:31:00,250 --> 00:31:02,000
And let me tell you,
if people had told me
618
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,590
this was going to
happen, I was like,
619
00:31:05,710 --> 00:31:07,880
man, you must be smoking
some really good crack.
620
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,180
[laughter]
621
00:31:09,260 --> 00:31:13,260
Because I think this
company's going to fail.
622
00:31:13,390 --> 00:31:16,100
He's powerful in a
negative way, I would say.
623
00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:17,600
He's imperious.
624
00:31:17,770 --> 00:31:20,100
I don't know if Elon Musk
has become what he's become
625
00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:22,610
or if he was always what he is
626
00:31:22,770 --> 00:31:26,280
[tense electronic music]
627
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:33,280
I think we all have drives.
628
00:31:33,410 --> 00:31:38,040
For Elon, his drives are
partly shaped by his demons,
629
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,790
those dark fears he
had as a lonely child.
630
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,130
When he was a kid, Elon was
incredibly socially awkward.
631
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:48,300
He had no friends.
632
00:31:48,420 --> 00:31:50,930
And he got beaten up, bullied.
633
00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:52,640
He's been able to harness that.
634
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,220
And that leads to these drives
where he has to prove himself.
635
00:31:57,270 --> 00:32:01,140
Elon changed over time, but
he is a variable person.
636
00:32:01,270 --> 00:32:03,560
Sometimes he's in
engineering mode.
637
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,650
Other times he's dark, in
what one of his girlfriends
638
00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:08,900
calls demon mode.
639
00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:12,660
And it meant his face
would take on a blank stare
640
00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:16,330
and he would just get angry
and start telling people
641
00:32:16,490 --> 00:32:19,330
that they were
messing things up.
642
00:32:19,450 --> 00:32:22,170
I think Elon Musk's
perception of the world
643
00:32:22,290 --> 00:32:25,170
has been drastically
morphed over the years.
644
00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:28,000
Well, the debate over
when business can reopen
645
00:32:28,170 --> 00:32:31,170
is heating up between
California and Tesla.
646
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,180
The COVID regulations
shut down his plants,
647
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:38,510
and he felt that politicians
didn't understand the nature
648
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,930
of risk-taking and
building things.
649
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:43,690
And so he goes further
and further down what
650
00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:46,150
I call a rabbit hole.
651
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:49,610
The expansion of the
shelter-in-place or, frankly, I
652
00:32:49,690 --> 00:32:52,530
would call it forcibly
imprisoning people
653
00:32:52,650 --> 00:32:56,490
in their homes against all
their constitutional rights,
654
00:32:56,530 --> 00:32:59,700
in my opinion, and breaking
people's freedoms in ways
655
00:32:59,830 --> 00:33:04,540
that are horrible and wrong and
not why people came to America
656
00:33:04,670 --> 00:33:05,880
or built this country.
657
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,710
What the [bleep].
658
00:33:06,830 --> 00:33:07,880
Excuse me.
659
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,550
He has a deep paranoia
about politics
660
00:33:12,670 --> 00:33:16,800
and worried that the woke
mind virus was destroying
661
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,680
civilization, and he felt only
by doing things like buying
662
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,900
Twitter and blowing up the
polite political correctness,
663
00:33:26,060 --> 00:33:27,400
could he be successful.
664
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,230
Elon Musk now owns one of
the world's most influential
665
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,820
social media platforms.
666
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:35,570
The world's richest man is
going to effectively control one
667
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:39,240
of the most
influential platforms.
668
00:33:39,410 --> 00:33:41,830
He said all kinds
of crazy things.
669
00:33:41,910 --> 00:33:45,250
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has
apologized to a Thai cave
670
00:33:45,410 --> 00:33:48,210
rescuer for calling
him a pedo or pedophile
671
00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:50,210
in an unfounded claim.
672
00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:52,760
He's made all kinds
of crazy accusations
673
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,380
that he's later
had to walk back.
674
00:33:55,420 --> 00:33:59,260
Now he's this awful creature
who espouses white supremacist
675
00:33:59,430 --> 00:34:01,760
feelings or at
least promotes them.
676
00:34:01,890 --> 00:34:04,060
People say that you're a racist.
677
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:06,190
There's all kinds of
things said about you,
678
00:34:06,270 --> 00:34:08,940
which I'm sure you
would disagree with.
679
00:34:09,110 --> 00:34:11,020
But I just don't understand,
what is the motivation for
680
00:34:11,110 --> 00:34:11,940
doing that?
681
00:34:12,110 --> 00:34:13,280
Are you fomenting this?
682
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,240
My partner, she's
half Indian, my wife,
683
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,450
and I have four
children with her.
684
00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:26,960
One of them was named after
a famous Indian physicist.
685
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,210
So I would say I'm not racist.
686
00:34:29,290 --> 00:34:34,210
And also, if you look at
the people that are employed
687
00:34:34,260 --> 00:34:40,600
at my companies, we have
senior executives of all races.
688
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,220
Whether he's doing
it to stir the pot
689
00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:44,140
or because he actually
believes it, who knows?
690
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:46,100
It doesn't even matter.
691
00:34:46,270 --> 00:34:50,560
I'm not just MAGA,
I'm dark, gothic MAGA.
692
00:34:50,650 --> 00:34:55,820
Elon Musk made a late-life
conversion to a MAGA version
693
00:34:55,940 --> 00:35:00,410
of republicanism, became a key
Trump ally, donated hundreds
694
00:35:00,490 --> 00:35:02,910
of millions of dollars
to his campaign.
695
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:08,330
And then Trump installed Musk
as the head of this Department
696
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,120
of Governmental Efficiency.
697
00:35:10,170 --> 00:35:12,960
I have created the brand
new Department of
698
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,800
Government Efficiency.
699
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,010
[cheers, applause]
700
00:35:17,170 --> 00:35:19,300
Does anybody remember DOGE?
701
00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:22,260
Did DOGE ever save us a dime?
702
00:35:22,350 --> 00:35:24,600
The chainsaw for bureaucracy.
703
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,680
Did he have to run
around with a chainsaw?
704
00:35:26,810 --> 00:35:29,690
Did he have to stand in the
Oval office with his kid?
705
00:35:29,850 --> 00:35:30,940
No.
706
00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:32,190
To be as effective?
707
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:34,650
No, but he desperately
needs attention, so.
708
00:35:34,690 --> 00:35:35,650
Yes!
709
00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:41,030
It's been unfair because
DOGE became the whipping boy
710
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,370
for everything.
711
00:35:42,530 --> 00:35:44,700
So if there was some
cut, real or imagined,
712
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:46,370
everyone would blame DOGE.
713
00:35:49,710 --> 00:35:52,000
[cannon fires]
714
00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:57,550
When the war in Ukraine began,
Elon Musk's superhero instincts
715
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:58,670
kicked in.
716
00:35:58,710 --> 00:36:01,180
He wanted to put on the
cape, and he did help
717
00:36:01,220 --> 00:36:03,890
Ukraine enormously.
718
00:36:04,050 --> 00:36:07,470
At a certain point, as the
war's been going on for a while,
719
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,690
Ukraine wanted to do a
sneak attack on Crimea.
720
00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:15,520
And they wanted to use
Starlink to guide that.
721
00:36:15,690 --> 00:36:20,900
Now, Musk became rightly worried
that, OK, this now could lead
722
00:36:21,070 --> 00:36:22,240
to a nuclear war.
723
00:36:22,410 --> 00:36:23,990
And the question
was, was he going
724
00:36:24,070 --> 00:36:26,410
to allow it to work in Crimea?
725
00:36:26,530 --> 00:36:29,250
And he decided no,
which ends up thwarting
726
00:36:29,410 --> 00:36:31,410
this secret sneak attack.
727
00:36:31,540 --> 00:36:35,170
He says he received an emergency
request from Ukraine's leaders
728
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:38,590
to activate Starlink all
the way to Sevastopol.
729
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:40,720
If I had agreed
to their request,
730
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,930
then SpaceX would be explicitly
complicit in a major act of war
731
00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:46,760
and conflict escalation.
732
00:36:46,890 --> 00:36:50,770
One of the dangers of
someone grabbing a kind
733
00:36:50,890 --> 00:36:54,600
of pseudo-monopoly over
satellite internet communication
734
00:36:54,730 --> 00:36:58,440
is it gives that person a
lot of geopolitical power.
735
00:36:58,610 --> 00:37:02,450
We forget that by
handing over that control
736
00:37:02,610 --> 00:37:05,410
to a single individual and
granting them, in a sense, kind
737
00:37:05,450 --> 00:37:09,080
of godlike powers, you
are giving away a lot.
738
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:14,040
I'm not sure that it's a
great idea for a Mercurial man
739
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,250
with very particular
interests to have that power.
740
00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:21,460
[soft dramatic music]
741
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:30,310
SpaceX has done amazing things
that further enable
742
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:31,890
NASA's mission.
743
00:37:31,970 --> 00:37:35,140
Elon is one person within that,
but there is no doubt he has
744
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:36,940
the vision, and he
has the engineering
745
00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:39,320
and entrepreneurial
chops to take the vision
746
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,980
and bring it to reality.
747
00:37:41,110 --> 00:37:44,490
[upbeat dance music]
748
00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:48,740
But I think it's interesting
that we try to understand
749
00:37:48,820 --> 00:37:52,660
these people, for good and
for bad, who are moving us
750
00:37:52,830 --> 00:37:54,580
into a new era of technology.
751
00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:56,120
We no longer
worship, I would say,
752
00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:58,000
at the altar of
kindness and character,
753
00:37:58,130 --> 00:38:00,000
but of billionaire innovators.
754
00:38:00,170 --> 00:38:01,670
They're the new protected class.
755
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,170
I think Musk and Bezos
are similar in that they
756
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:09,470
both disrupted big,
important industries
757
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:11,470
and done it through
force of will
758
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:13,430
and through thinking
out of the box.
759
00:38:13,470 --> 00:38:16,770
But they've also done it
sometimes by running roughshod.
760
00:38:16,810 --> 00:38:19,860
Amazon firing back against a
damning account of what it's
761
00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:22,690
like to work for the
world's largest retailer.
762
00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:25,950
Our CNN Money Team sums up
Amazon's corporate culture
763
00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:27,860
as "five big no's."
764
00:38:30,990 --> 00:38:33,330
There was a lot of very
good reporting on the way
765
00:38:33,370 --> 00:38:35,200
workers were treated.
766
00:38:35,330 --> 00:38:40,040
Jeff Bezos responded to his more
than 100,000 employees, writing,
767
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:43,670
"I don't recognize this Amazon,"
adding "Amazon would not
768
00:38:43,710 --> 00:38:46,550
tolerate callous
workplace behavior."
769
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:50,220
It's striking how much politics
can play a part in this.
770
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:53,560
Jeff Bezos coming under harsh
criticism for his management,
771
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,230
or you might say, mismanagement
of The Washington Post.
772
00:38:56,390 --> 00:39:00,560
When he's trying to compete for
these big new rocket contracts,
773
00:39:00,690 --> 00:39:03,730
he's really taken The
Post in another direction.
774
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:06,400
Journalists at The Post are
questioning his motives,
775
00:39:06,570 --> 00:39:08,360
wondering if he's trying to
curry favor with
776
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,320
President Trump.
777
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,080
These days, there's two groups
of people that get to access
778
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:15,080
space, right?
779
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:16,580
There's the billionaire class.
780
00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:18,870
In fact, the current
administrator of NASA,
781
00:39:18,910 --> 00:39:21,420
Jared Isaacman, is somebody
who paid hundreds of millions
782
00:39:21,580 --> 00:39:24,040
of dollars to do a
private space mission.
783
00:39:24,090 --> 00:39:26,260
And then there are the
astronauts, the people that are
784
00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:30,550
supposed to be representative
of a country or of all people.
785
00:39:30,590 --> 00:39:33,350
And the dichotomy
between these people
786
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:38,680
that have worked their ass off
for decades to get to this point
787
00:39:38,770 --> 00:39:41,440
and then these folks
who can buy their way,
788
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,110
I think it's really striking.
789
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:48,940
I know people can be dismissive
of people like Bezos and Musk
790
00:39:49,070 --> 00:39:52,620
making space into a
billionaire boy's hobby.
791
00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:55,620
But we have to remember that
if you didn't have SpaceX
792
00:39:55,740 --> 00:39:58,290
and you didn't have the
other private companies,
793
00:39:58,410 --> 00:40:00,080
we'd still be grounded.
794
00:40:00,250 --> 00:40:01,620
We live in divided times.
795
00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:04,960
And if it's convenient to
beat up the billionaires,
796
00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:06,300
then so be it.
797
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:08,210
I would just say the reason
why NASA's budget is 1/4%
798
00:40:08,260 --> 00:40:10,760
of the discretionary budget
is because you have some
799
00:40:10,930 --> 00:40:13,970
of the wealthiest individuals in
the world that are not choosing
800
00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:16,810
to put their resources
into sports teams,
801
00:40:16,930 --> 00:40:19,980
but instead putting it into
the capabilities that not only
802
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:24,100
benefit your nation, but
honestly, all of humankind.
803
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:27,980
So the question is, would you
feel better if you paid a lot
804
00:40:28,110 --> 00:40:31,820
more out of your paycheck every
week for NASA's capabilities?
805
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:34,660
Or are you happy that
somebody else is chipping in?
806
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,000
OK, I'm ready.
807
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,870
OK, go ahead.
808
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:44,250
[dramatic music]
809
00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:49,090
It's been more than 50 years
since anyone walked on the Moon.
810
00:40:49,210 --> 00:40:51,880
Whenever there's an
actual return to the Moon
811
00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:54,220
and it's in 4K, not in
grainy black and white,
812
00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:57,600
I think it's going to be a huge
moment for the planet, huge.
813
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,680
From my perspective,
we return to the Moon
814
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:02,730
first and foremost, because
we have been gifted a proving
815
00:41:02,770 --> 00:41:06,400
ground four days away for
eventually going to Mars, which
816
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,440
is the next step on
the grand journey.
817
00:41:09,570 --> 00:41:11,110
It is our destiny
in the long term
818
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:13,570
to venture out among
the stars, I think,
819
00:41:13,610 --> 00:41:14,780
for the good of humankind.
820
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:17,780
[dramatic music]
821
00:41:17,950 --> 00:41:20,450
Houston, you're looking good.
822
00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:23,290
Musk always talks about
needing to make humans
823
00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:26,380
an interplanetary species
because if something happens
824
00:41:26,460 --> 00:41:29,460
to Earth, it'll guarantee
the survival of humans.
825
00:41:29,590 --> 00:41:32,380
And Bezos has also talked
about taking that next step
826
00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:34,590
into people living
in the cosmos.
827
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:38,300
So for them, really, the
expenditure on spaceflight
828
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:42,930
is very much tied into their
vision of what philanthropy is.
829
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:44,890
There may have been
two different visions,
830
00:41:44,980 --> 00:41:47,310
but in some ways,
Musk and Bezos are
831
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,650
doing a lot of the same things,
creating a new space economy.
832
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,120
Billionaires are motivated
by nothing but money.
833
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,160
Listen, I don't
like billionaires.
834
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,250
I think it's a
terrible, awful concept.
835
00:42:03,330 --> 00:42:07,000
But I think the byproduct
of the exploration
836
00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:09,840
that these billionaires
are conducting
837
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,420
will be we all benefit.
838
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,670
Someday we'll all
be going to space.
839
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,180
We'll all take rides up there.
840
00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:19,180
There's going to be a
lot of space tourism.
841
00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:21,310
I think there will
be hotels in orbit.
842
00:42:21,350 --> 00:42:24,600
There will be people
playing golf on the Moon.
843
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,350
There's going to be
a lot of adventure
844
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,520
and a lot of spectacular
vacations in space.
845
00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:33,820
I believe we're going to have
large space colonies, colonies
846
00:42:33,860 --> 00:42:35,030
on Mars.
847
00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:36,530
All of these things
are going to take
848
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:39,200
tremendous industrial
development in space,
849
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,120
but we're expecting
that to happen
850
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,950
over the next several decades.
851
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,540
What do you think
of this right here?
852
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:45,620
It's kind of translucent.
853
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:47,210
Yeah, it's translucent.
854
00:42:47,370 --> 00:42:49,710
The original space program
brought all kinds of really
855
00:42:49,830 --> 00:42:51,210
cool developments.
856
00:42:51,340 --> 00:42:53,880
Your cell phone, this stupid
device that we're all stuck to,
857
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,550
the camera inside your cell
phone, the cameras that are
858
00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:58,800
filming me right now.
859
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,220
What's up?
860
00:43:00,340 --> 00:43:02,180
I mean, navigation around
the world, from your cars
861
00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:03,640
to your airplanes.
862
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:05,390
We all rely on space assets.
863
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,730
But the really astonishing
discoveries are yet to be made
864
00:43:09,850 --> 00:43:11,900
on planets beyond the Moon.
865
00:43:12,020 --> 00:43:15,070
We know so little about our
solar system, let alone the two
866
00:43:15,230 --> 00:43:16,570
trillion other galaxies.
867
00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:17,530
We have to keep going.
868
00:43:17,570 --> 00:43:18,650
We can't slow down.
869
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:22,160
We as a species, as far
as space is concerned,
870
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:24,240
we're just still warming up.
871
00:43:24,410 --> 00:43:25,870
We have not even begun.
872
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:28,660
We're going to be out there
among the stars, making science
873
00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:30,580
fiction no longer fiction.
874
00:43:30,750 --> 00:43:33,590
[applause]
875
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:37,260
You got to get up close to
the eyepiece of the telescope.
876
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:38,760
Space is inspiring.
877
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,090
[indistinct chatter]
878
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:41,510
And I think that the
reason it's so inspiring,
879
00:43:41,550 --> 00:43:44,050
it gets back to humans
looking up at the sky
880
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,600
and seeing the eclipses.
881
00:43:46,770 --> 00:43:50,940
It's the wonder of
that open-ended cosmos.
882
00:43:51,060 --> 00:43:55,940
I do think everyone should go to
space, because I think everyone
883
00:43:56,070 --> 00:44:00,240
needs a cosmic perspective, and
that's the easiest way to get
884
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,280
one without any explanation.
885
00:44:03,450 --> 00:44:04,950
You see it and
you're like, [gasps]
886
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,950
damn, look how small
and fragile it is.
887
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,120
And that's where we all live.
888
00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:12,210
And all the borders and
everything disappears.
889
00:44:12,250 --> 00:44:13,960
And there is no race
and there is no nothing.
890
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,710
It's just one little spaceship
hurtling through space
891
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,630
at an incredible speed.
892
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,470
4, 3, 2, 1!
893
00:44:23,590 --> 00:44:25,930
Seeing my first
rocket launch, that
894
00:44:25,970 --> 00:44:27,470
wasn't a rational experience.
895
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,270
That was an experience almost
akin to a religious experience.
896
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,230
The confrontation with the
infinite, to your own ego,
897
00:44:34,310 --> 00:44:37,650
and watching yourself
disappear against that.
898
00:44:37,770 --> 00:44:41,400
It's a rare thing that something
so exciting and scientifically
899
00:44:41,490 --> 00:44:43,990
relevant and
geopolitically relevant
900
00:44:44,110 --> 00:44:48,790
also gets to provide us a
neutral way to access something
901
00:44:48,830 --> 00:44:51,080
very profound.
902
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,460
We humble ourselves
before the cosmos.
903
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:56,960
We are lucky to be
able to witness it.73040
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