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[theme music]
Greetings, Bill Nye here.
Like everyone you've ever met, I am native to the Earth.
We'll represent the Earth with this blue circle.
Another object you're familiar with, the Sun.
Closer to us than the Sun is the Earth's Moon.
The Moon right here, Moon.
Rays of sunlight, they're streaming through the blackness
of space.
And once in a while, the Moon casts a dark shadow
on the Earth.
So if you're in the path of this shadow, you see an eclipse.
An eclipse is something that has engendered curiosity
in personkind throughout history.
Seeing the sky go dark, the crickets chirping in the middle
of the day.
It creates a spectacular phenomenon here on the Earth.
The solar eclipse happening in August 2026,
is going to have a path of totality
that people will travel across the world to be able to catch
a glimpse of.
The fact is that the Moon has a very romantic and seductive
quality when it comes to our lore.
And that's the moon that we get to now go to.
We're going back to the freaking Moon!
The space race, heating up once again.
China launching its latest mission to the Moon.
[rocket roaring]
The Chinese will land their Taikonauts on the Moon.
The question is, do we return first?
It's the US and its billionaires against China.
For better or for worse, the American chance at getting back
to the Moon depends on Elon Musk.
He's an immensely complicated, immensely
accomplished, immensely problematic figure.
And Jeff Bezos is trying to muscle in on that territory.
With Blue Origin or SpaceX, you've placed the entire lunar
return effort on two people.
That's a huge risk.
And it's troubling to a lot of people
that they might increase their power by leveraging space to get
more of what they want on Earth.
My first rocket launch was watching the Curiosity Rover
launch to Mars.
And I was sitting with the entire scientific team who had
worked, in some cases, for decades, planning,
designing, building.
And so you had the collective dreams and efforts and blood
and sweat and tears of hundreds of people, all
depending on that one rocket not blowing up.
Main engine start, 0 and liftoff of the Atlas V with Curiosity.
[cheering on radio]
And then when you see it take off,
it is brighter than you can imagine.
It is louder than you can imagine.
And then the crowd itself reacts, screaming, watching it
going up into space, never to return.
The vision of all of NASA is that rocket launches become
routine, right?
[rocket roaring]
SpaceX has revolutionized the launch industry.
And liftoff of the Falcon 9 rocket.
Go SpaceX.
Go NASA crew 10.
These days, SpaceX launches at least a couple of times a week.
About 90% of the US space program
is being carried by SpaceX.
They really have far exceeded anyone's expectations.
Holy [bleep] You did it.
[cheers, applause]
Oh, my god.
Elon Musk founded SpaceX in 2002 and it was very much a
passion project.
He'd been a young kid reading Hitchhiker's Guide
to the Galaxy, and he just dreamed of getting our country
back into space and going to Mars.
I've always been interested in space,
but I didn't think that there was anything that I could do
as a single individual.
I thought space was really the arena of government.
He's driving back from Long Island with some friends,
and they were trying to figure out how is NASA going to get us
to Mars.
Sort of started looking into it.
And I went to NASA website to find out when we're going
to Mars, because it seems like, obviously, that is
the next thing after the Moon.
And I couldn't find anything.
So I was like, wow, this seems very strange.
And so he says, I'm going to start a company.
All of his friends think he's nuts.
And so they made a highlights reel of rockets blowing up--
[explosion]
--hoping that would talk him out of it.
And he said, no, man, that just strengthened my resolve.
Elon Musk very much saw himself as someone that could invest
his own money into reinvigorating these very bold,
outlandish ambitions.
He's very entrepreneurial.
He did a Yellow Pages company, putting the Yellow Pages online.
And then he moved into a payments company called x.com.
Big X.
Exactly, x.com.
I think x.com could absolutely be a multibillion
dollar bonanza.
It had a big rival and they end up merging, calling it PayPal.
When I met Elon Musk years ago, he was introduced as Elon Musk,
founder of PayPal.
And as I like to joke, it was as though it was all one word, Elon
Musk, founder of PayPal, I'd like you to meet Bill.
Hi, Elon Musk, founder of PayPal.
Now, he gets eased out because he's a difficult person to work
with, but he takes the buyout from PayPal.
So he does SpaceX and then Tesla,
and then he keeps inventing new things.
It wasn't as though I thought of what are all the businesses
that one could do, and then which is going to be the easiest
one to make the most amount of money?
It wasn't anything like that.
It was really from the standpoint of, what are the most
important problems in the world that need to get solved?
And let me try to help solve those.
I remember him talking about rockets early
and he was compelling.
His vision was compelling.
The goal of SpaceX is to revolutionize space
transportation by dramatically improving the cost
and the reliability, and by building rockets that are
large enough and capable enough to go to other planets,
really, Mars in particular.
So basically, the rockets we use to send astronauts to the Moon,
that was a disposable rocket.
The entire concept of SpaceX was develop a rocket that doesn't
just fly once, it can fly multiple times.
[tools whirring]
[upbeat rock music]
They start building hardware right away, making mistakes,
blowing things up.
[explosion]
It's this interesting transference of Silicon
Valley, right?
It's called you fail fast.
And in a way, that could only happen because it wasn't
a government agency.
NASA blows up one rocket, it's in the news for a month.
Look at the failure of NASA.
Elon blows up a rocket and people are like, look at him,
he's really pushing the discovery of space exploration.
You'd watch Musk walk around and he'd get really angry, even late
at night, if there weren't enough people building something
or getting the launch pad ready.
And you'd say, why are you doing this?
The real motivation, my real motivation, the motivation
people at SpaceX and the reason they work so, so hard
is because we want to see an exciting future in
space exploration.
If we're not on a path to get there, we'll never get there.
Musk was forthright back in the early days of SpaceX
about how uncertain he was that SpaceX would ever
be a profitable or sustainable business at all.
But after some trial and error, they did figure it out.
SpaceX in 2015 caught a booster for the first time,
refurbished it, flew it again.
[cheers, applause]
And this marked the time at which SpaceX really morphed
from this underdog into a dominant space power.
[upbeat rock music]
Elon pretty much self-funded SpaceX in the beginning,
but along the way, he found things that would be very
commercially successful, most notably putting satellites
into low Earth orbit.
When he started talking about that at the time,
I thought it was brilliant.
I continue to think it's brilliant.
[rocket roaring]
A giant leap for SpaceX, the company launching a rocket
full of 60 satellites overnight.
Starlink is SpaceX's biggest moneymaker.
It's a large constellation of satellites that basically
reflect and provide internet access across the world
to anybody, anywhere.
They've launched over 10,000 satellites.
It's more than any other company in the world.
It's more than any other country in the world.
Musk controls a great deal of access to space.
And so the more reliant we get on SpaceX, one future could be,
the more reliant we are on Musk.
NASA has chosen SpaceX to return us to the Moon.
We are in a great competition with a rival that has the will
and the means to challenge American exceptionalism
across multiple domains, including in the high ground
of space.
The Trump administration has made it absolutely clear
that its top priority in space now is to beat China back
to the Moon.
China is saying it wants to get to the Moon by 2030.
So every step has to fall exactly right into place
if the United States is going to get there before.
SpaceX is using its massive, gargantuan Starship rocket
for this purpose.
I mean, Starship is just big.
It's really, really big.
It's almost like going back to Bugs Bunny cartoons from
the 1940s and how they represent spaceships--
[whooshing, dramatic music]
--is kind of what Starship is like.
[intriguing music]
SpaceX wants this rocket to work not just to get astronauts
to the Moon, but also to get to Mars.
And so far, they've done test flights with varying degrees
of success.
[rocket roaring]
It is hard to describe how much of a step
Starship would be if it succeeds.
And that's the operative word is "if."
Late 2025, there started to be rumblings in NASA
that, oh, my god, if we continue to depend on Musk,
we're going to lose the space race.
And it was the ex-acting NASA administrator Sean Duffy
last year, who said that if SpaceX doesn't have Starship,
its lunar lander, ready for our use, then we'll use Blue Origin.
And it was a very overt way of saying, if SpaceX doesn't focus,
we'll go with the competitor, and really teeing up
this billionaire space race.
[rocket rumbling]
[intriguing music]
It's kind of underappreciated that Blue Origin was founded
a couple of years before SpaceX.
Bezos started the company in 2000 when he became
a billionaire with Amazon.
He had the funds to pour money into starting to make space
exploration technology that was cheaper than we had seen it.
And the company really operated in stealth mode for a long time,
and that was by design.
They famously have a tortoise as a mascot, and they have a Latin
motto, "Gradatim Ferociter," which means "Step by
Step, Ferociously."
SpaceX has always been, you fail fast.
Blue Origin, which is infinitely well capitalized by Jeff Bezos'
Amazon money, has only launched two of its larger rockets
into space.
[triumphant music]
Bezos has said for a long time that the tortoise beats the hare
and that he's going to go slow and steady and careful,
but in the end, he's going to win this kind of like battle
of the billionaires.
Welcome back to Earth, First Step.
Congratulations to all of you.
Their first major project was building the new Shepard rocket,
which is very different than the Falcon rockets
that SpaceX flies because it's suborbital.
Suborbital rockets require far less power,
and they just go up and down.
You might remember that he sent up a rocket that brought
his then girlfriend, Lauren Sanchez and Katy Perry
up in the near orbit.
[laughs]
I think a lot of people thought it was kind of a cheap
publicity stunt.
Is it a PR stunt?
Who cares?
It brings attention to space travel.
At the end of the day, I think their ambitions are much bigger
than tourism.
If we move out into the solar system,
for all practical purposes, we have unlimited resources.
One of the things that Musk and Bezos have in common is as kids,
they loved science fiction.
Some town resident had donated his entire science fiction
collection to the Cotulla Public Library.
Just teensy, probably half the library was these science
fiction books.
And I read, over several Summers,
I read through that collection of science fiction,
and that added to my interest in space travel and science
and the future.
Jeff Bezos loves to talk about how when he was at Princeton,
he met Gerard O'Neill, who is a very famous astrophysicist who
conceptualized this idea of O'Neill Colonies, which are
these giant orbiting laboratories that spin to
create gravity.
These are very large structures, miles on end,
and they hold a million people or more each.
We get to preserve this unique gem of a planet which
is completely irreplaceable.
There is no plan B. We have to save this planet.
He said explicitly his goal is to save planet Earth by moving
industry off the planet into space.
We were given a gift, this nearby body called the Moon.
[cheers, applause]
This is Blue Moon.
We've been working on this lander for three years.
Jeff Bezos has definitely talked about becoming the Amazon
of space.
How he is building the transportation
services so that hundreds of other space companies
can start doing economic activity in space.
In 1994, I started Amazon.
All of the heavy-lifting infrastructure needed for Amazon
to exist was already in place.
We did not have to build a transportation system to
deliver packages.
It was there.
Infrastructure lets entrepreneurs do amazing things.
So the kids here and your children
and their grandchildren, they're going to build those
O'Neill colonies.
This generation's job, my generation's job,
is to build the infrastructure so that you'll be able to.
Jeff Bezos is a really great entrepreneur,
there's no question.
What he did at Amazon was astonishing, and a lot of people
didn't think he could pull it off.
He would not allow the company to make money.
He was like, no, we're not done.
Scale is what it's about now.
So we're actually going to own the pipes of the internet
and be the arbiter of who can sell on the internet.
I mean, it's evil, but it's genius.
[chuckles]
[soft dramatic music]
I'm taking my Amazon lottery winnings,
and I'm converting them into reusable rocket vehicles
so that we can lower the cost of access to space.
There's an enthusiasm to him, an enthusiasm that pushes things
like crazy.
He's a visionary.
This vision sounds very big, and it is.
None of this is easy.
All of it is hard.
We choose to go to the Moon.
[applause]
We choose to go to the Moon in this decade
and do the other things, not because they are easy,
but because they are hard.
[rocket roaring]
The space race with US and the Soviet Union in the past
was really all about proving that our system of government
and our system of economics could beat the Soviet model.
If we could beat them to the Moon,
then it was a demonstration that our entire system was better
than the Soviet system.
[rocket rumbling]
On October 4, 1957, a world-stirring event took place.
Sputnik was the first spacecraft that orbited the Earth.
It was launched by the Soviet Union.
Now, imagine if we were living back at a time
where nothing had ever orbited the Earth before, and suddenly
those Communists over there in Russia with nuclear bombs
that they want to rain down on us,
they are flying over our country in space.
The ultimate high ground.
If you could have weapons in space,
man, you'd really be in charge.
With two Sputniks orbiting the Earth simultaneously,
the whole world began to speak about the triumph
of Soviet science.
The Soviet Union also launched the first human in space,
Yuri Gagarin.
The space pilot whom the Russians have deified as the man
of the century, arrives at the airport outside of Moscow
for his first public appearance.
And so that created this crash program
to catch up to the Soviet Union and to beat them.
[dramatic music]
I certainly remember watching Apollo 11.
So I was on my knees, black and white television.
OK, Neil, we can see you coming down the ladder now.
One in every five people was watching this thing.
That's one small step for man--
And we see that humans have finally escaped this gravity.
--one giant leap for mankind.
And it changed my life.
I became a mechanical engineer.
I became an aerospace engineer because of Apollo.
Come on, man.
Hugely affected by it, hugely.
I think it sent a message to the world what the United States was
capable of doing.
If you can set out and achieve the near-impossible,
send astronauts to the Moon and bring them back home safely,
I wonder what else the nation is capable of doing?
And maybe I'll think twice as an adversary
before I encroach or do something that
could be perceived as hostile.
In a sense, that was the pinnacle of American power.
[soft dramatic music]
Every mission subsequently from that
started to gain confidence and ambition.
But by the time that Apollo 15 launched,
the program had functionally ended.
It became clear the Soviet Union was kind of going out
of business.
There was this feeling that, OK, we've had our fun
and we don't have the wherewithal, resources, or money
to do this anymore.
That was a correct read of public opinion.
It no longer seemed that urgent to keep going back to the Moon.
[tense music]
[the prisoners, "going back"]
During the 1970s, during the Apollo program, Richard Nixon
made the decision to cancel the rest of the program
because there was political backlash.
People didn't see the value of it.
You also have to look at the cultural background of what was
happening in America at this time.
The Vietnam War was becoming an increasingly big part
of the American psyche.
Free our brothers!
And there were more protests and demonstrations
that made space exploration, by comparison,
seem sort of frivolous.
Your marginal cost of an Apollo mission was not cheap.
And so people wondered why were we spending so much money
on this when we've got poverty, we've got riots in the US,
we've got energy problems with the Middle East.
In that environment, they made the political decision to
cancel it.
After retiring the Apollo program,
NASA understood the cost problem.
Every Apollo rocket had to be thrown away.
That's why it went into developing a different type
of vehicle.
[upbeat rock music]
If you can reuse it, we'll start bringing down the cost,
and then NASA can go achieve all those exploration and science
dreams without needing to pull too much out of public coffers.
NASA has been extra cautious in making sure the first launch is
textbook perfect.
So we moved on into the space shuttle era.
There's a lot on the line.
Nixon himself decided to go with the Space Shuttle Program
in order to win votes in Southern California.
Unfortunately, the space shuttle never really became exactly what
NASA envisioned.
The goal was to launch the space shuttle dozens of times a year,
but the most NASA ever achieved was roughly, I think,
eight or nine launches in a single year.
And then Challenger happened.
Major catastrophe in America's space program.
Challenger, only seconds after leaving the launch pad,
according to NASA, has exploded in mid-air.
We do not have any more information
than is being provided to the public at this time.
And then the Columbia disaster in 2003.
You are looking at what is the final moments of the Space
Shuttle Columbia.
The two shuttle disasters in total
killed 14 different astronauts.
The tragedies were becoming so politically unpopular.
So the Shuttle Program was starting to wind down.
But this was a problem because the shuttle was the only vehicle
that the United States had that was capable of taking astronauts
to and from the International Space Station.
When the space shuttle was ending,
the Obama White House proposed a dramatic reconfiguration of NASA
to rely on commercial providers to send individuals to the
Space Station.
In order to reach the Space Station,
we will work with a growing array of private companies
competing to make getting to space easier and
more affordable.
[applause]
This goes back to the original conceptions of space.
You think about 2001--
A Space Odyssey, it's Pan Am as running the flights up
to their space station in that movie,
like a commercial aviation company at the time.
[JOHANN STRAUSS II, "THE BLUE DANUBE WALTZ"]
So the Obama administration put a lot of political capital
to championing this commercial capability, which primarily was
a SpaceX capability at the time.
[upbeat funk music]
What I think we're beginning to see
is the dawn of a new era of space exploration,
but one that is driven by commercial companies as much,
if not more, than by government.
NASA awarded SpaceX a contract for, I think it was about
$1.6 billion.
NASA has awarded us the contract to provide the majority
of the cargo to the Space Station,
and to return cargo to Earth.
The thing we're really hoping will occur this year is
that NASA will ask us to do astronaut transport as well.
Back in 2010, Elon Musk was giving President Obama a tour
of his facilities and showing him the progress
that SpaceX was making at the time.
This is the most advanced rocket in the world.
And this was a demonstration that the Obama administration
was putting a lot of political effort
to supporting a commercial approach.
NASA has always relied on commercial companies, always.
But what is different is civil servants
used to design the rocket.
Now that's being designed by civilians
working for corporations, not working for the government.
The way that NASA works with SpaceX and Blue Origin
is that NASA relies on them to basically do most of it.
And then if it doesn't happen, NASA is not
on the hook to pay extra.
But at the same time, they don't have the ability to really get
down into the weeds and understand what's going on.
There is definitely going to be a new industry.
It's going to be stronger.
It's going to be more powerful, more capable,
and it's going to ensure that we take things to a whole new level
in terms of spaceflight.
[tense music]
Then in 2017, Trump signed the Space Policy Directive 1.
[applause]
The directive I'm signing today will refocus America's space
program on human exploration and discovery.
[dramatic music]
President Trump created the Artemis Program.
He made it clear that we are returning to the Moon
to stay, to build a base.
And you want to be able to keep astronauts alive,
potentially six months at a time.
So as a result, we need affordability.
And liftoff.
Right now, you have two companies, SpaceX and Blue
Origin, that are working on vehicles that
will be able to bring our astronauts to the surface
of the Moon.
And thus begins a very long battle between Elon Musk's
SpaceX and Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin,
to be the first company to produce that lunar lander
that NASA is asking for.
And liftoff of Artemis I.
The Artemis program right now kind of envisions a series
of test flights.
Artemis I was a test flight with no astronauts on it.
Artemis II was four crew going around the Moon.
Artemis III will be a demonstration mission in Earth
orbit to show that their crew capsule can dock with one
of these commercially provided lunar landers.
Artemis IV is scheduled to be the first lunar landing,
sometime before 2030.
Artemis V starts to frankly, get a little hazy after that.
The goal now is to build out a permanent lunar base.
Why do you want to have people on the Moon?
The Moon is a great place for resources,
and so if you want to build big structures in space,
you want to go get materials from the Moon.
What resources would be on the Moon?
There's a couple of things that are fascinating.
We know with absolute certainty that there's water on the Moon.
Water on the Moon is fuel, like oil on Earth.
So now China, private corporations, the US, all trying
to get to the Moon to get to that water.
Because if you separate the H2O, now you have hydrogen
and oxygen. You can bring them back together.
It creates [puffs air] boom, out into space.
You do that from the Moon, you save a lot of money.
Another one that's talked about is going to be AI.
Within a few years, data centers are going to start appearing
in space.
The value of having a data center in space
as opposed to the Earth, is that you have ready access to energy
through the Sun.
People don't like living next to data centers
and so well, if you put them in the space,
all that stuff goes away.
This is about establishing an outpost on the Moon
for scientific operations.
And then obviously there is just a lot of inspiration that's
going to come out of having humankind's first outpost
on another world.
I have no doubt we're going to launch Artemis III in 2027.
So SpaceX and Blue Origin are both racing to bring their lunar
landers to fruition, and both are in very different stages.
Blue Origin had this spectacular failure recently.
The moment a Blue Origin rocket exploded overnight.
And SpaceX, which has had a couple issues.
What in the heck?
And of course, the head of SpaceX is a controversial guy.
Now we see space moving from a collective effort
into an individualized capability that is represented
by a person.
NASA is running a risk of not owning the hardware that's
required for it to succeed, but also the reputation itself,
to a large part, is defined by Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk.
NASA is saving some money, but it's introducing a host
of other risks that they've never had to deal with before.
[dramatic music]
[rocket roars]
Right now, most space activity is being conducted by a few very
wealthy companies and wealthy individuals.
Elon!
Elon, right here!
Jeff!
Jeff!
On the left!
Jeff!
And I think that space industry is going to create more
concentration of wealth than anything the world has
seen before.
One of the most highly anticipated IPOs in years, Elon
Musk, rang the opening bell in celebration of its IPO
on NASDAQ.
We've got these billionaires playing larger and larger roles
in our lives.
We have never seen a company firing on all 12,000 cylinders
like we're seeing Amazon.
They control what we see, what we read.
Jeff Bezos, the founder and CEO of amazon.com,
is buying The Washington Post.
They have ownership over seemingly everything.
And it can make us numb.
But this is next Level, like literally in orbit and in space.
Today, Elon Musk broke history, becoming the world's
first trillionaire.
He's not motivated by money, but I
think he's motivated by becoming the world's first trillionaire.
He almost feels like he's an avatar in his own video game,
and he's racking up the points.
And let me tell you, if people had told me
this was going to happen, I was like,
man, you must be smoking some really good crack.
[laughter]
Because I think this company's going to fail.
He's powerful in a negative way, I would say.
He's imperious.
I don't know if Elon Musk has become what he's become
or if he was always what he is
[tense electronic music]
I think we all have drives.
For Elon, his drives are partly shaped by his demons,
those dark fears he had as a lonely child.
When he was a kid, Elon was incredibly socially awkward.
He had no friends.
And he got beaten up, bullied.
He's been able to harness that.
And that leads to these drives where he has to prove himself.
Elon changed over time, but he is a variable person.
Sometimes he's in engineering mode.
Other times he's dark, in what one of his girlfriends
calls demon mode.
And it meant his face would take on a blank stare
and he would just get angry and start telling people
that they were messing things up.
I think Elon Musk's perception of the world
has been drastically morphed over the years.
Well, the debate over when business can reopen
is heating up between California and Tesla.
The COVID regulations shut down his plants,
and he felt that politicians didn't understand the nature
of risk-taking and building things.
And so he goes further and further down what
I call a rabbit hole.
The expansion of the shelter-in-place or, frankly, I
would call it forcibly imprisoning people
in their homes against all their constitutional rights,
in my opinion, and breaking people's freedoms in ways
that are horrible and wrong and not why people came to America
or built this country.
What the [bleep].
Excuse me.
He has a deep paranoia about politics
and worried that the woke mind virus was destroying
civilization, and he felt only by doing things like buying
Twitter and blowing up the polite political correctness,
could he be successful.
Elon Musk now owns one of the world's most influential
social media platforms.
The world's richest man is going to effectively control one
of the most influential platforms.
He said all kinds of crazy things.
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has apologized to a Thai cave
rescuer for calling him a pedo or pedophile
in an unfounded claim.
He's made all kinds of crazy accusations
that he's later had to walk back.
Now he's this awful creature who espouses white supremacist
feelings or at least promotes them.
People say that you're a racist.
There's all kinds of things said about you,
which I'm sure you would disagree with.
But I just don't understand, what is the motivation for
doing that?
Are you fomenting this?
My partner, she's half Indian, my wife,
and I have four children with her.
One of them was named after a famous Indian physicist.
So I would say I'm not racist.
And also, if you look at the people that are employed
at my companies, we have senior executives of all races.
Whether he's doing it to stir the pot
or because he actually believes it, who knows?
It doesn't even matter.
I'm not just MAGA, I'm dark, gothic MAGA.
Elon Musk made a late-life conversion to a MAGA version
of republicanism, became a key Trump ally, donated hundreds
of millions of dollars to his campaign.
And then Trump installed Musk as the head of this Department
of Governmental Efficiency.
I have created the brand new Department of
Government Efficiency.
[cheers, applause]
Does anybody remember DOGE?
Did DOGE ever save us a dime?
The chainsaw for bureaucracy.
Did he have to run around with a chainsaw?
Did he have to stand in the Oval office with his kid?
No.
To be as effective?
No, but he desperately needs attention, so.
Yes!
It's been unfair because DOGE became the whipping boy
for everything.
So if there was some cut, real or imagined,
everyone would blame DOGE.
[cannon fires]
When the war in Ukraine began, Elon Musk's superhero instincts
kicked in.
He wanted to put on the cape, and he did help
Ukraine enormously.
At a certain point, as the war's been going on for a while,
Ukraine wanted to do a sneak attack on Crimea.
And they wanted to use Starlink to guide that.
Now, Musk became rightly worried that, OK, this now could lead
to a nuclear war.
And the question was, was he going
to allow it to work in Crimea?
And he decided no, which ends up thwarting
this secret sneak attack.
He says he received an emergency request from Ukraine's leaders
to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol.
If I had agreed to their request,
then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war
and conflict escalation.
One of the dangers of someone grabbing a kind
of pseudo-monopoly over satellite internet communication
is it gives that person a lot of geopolitical power.
We forget that by handing over that control
to a single individual and granting them, in a sense, kind
of godlike powers, you are giving away a lot.
I'm not sure that it's a great idea for a Mercurial man
with very particular interests to have that power.
[soft dramatic music]
SpaceX has done amazing things that further enable
NASA's mission.
Elon is one person within that, but there is no doubt he has
the vision, and he has the engineering
and entrepreneurial chops to take the vision
and bring it to reality.
[upbeat dance music]
But I think it's interesting that we try to understand
these people, for good and for bad, who are moving us
into a new era of technology.
We no longer worship, I would say,
at the altar of kindness and character,
but of billionaire innovators.
They're the new protected class.
I think Musk and Bezos are similar in that they
both disrupted big, important industries
and done it through force of will
and through thinking out of the box.
But they've also done it sometimes by running roughshod.
Amazon firing back against a damning account of what it's
like to work for the world's largest retailer.
Our CNN Money Team sums up Amazon's corporate culture
as "five big no's."
There was a lot of very good reporting on the way
workers were treated.
Jeff Bezos responded to his more than 100,000 employees, writing,
"I don't recognize this Amazon," adding "Amazon would not
tolerate callous workplace behavior."
It's striking how much politics can play a part in this.
Jeff Bezos coming under harsh criticism for his management,
or you might say, mismanagement of The Washington Post.
When he's trying to compete for these big new rocket contracts,
he's really taken The Post in another direction.
Journalists at The Post are questioning his motives,
wondering if he's trying to curry favor with
President Trump.
These days, there's two groups of people that get to access
space, right?
There's the billionaire class.
In fact, the current administrator of NASA,
Jared Isaacman, is somebody who paid hundreds of millions
of dollars to do a private space mission.
And then there are the astronauts, the people that are
supposed to be representative of a country or of all people.
And the dichotomy between these people
that have worked their ass off for decades to get to this point
and then these folks who can buy their way,
I think it's really striking.
I know people can be dismissive of people like Bezos and Musk
making space into a billionaire boy's hobby.
But we have to remember that if you didn't have SpaceX
and you didn't have the other private companies,
we'd still be grounded.
We live in divided times.
And if it's convenient to beat up the billionaires,
then so be it.
I would just say the reason why NASA's budget is 1/4%
of the discretionary budget is because you have some
of the wealthiest individuals in the world that are not choosing
to put their resources into sports teams,
but instead putting it into the capabilities that not only
benefit your nation, but honestly, all of humankind.
So the question is, would you feel better if you paid a lot
more out of your paycheck every week for NASA's capabilities?
Or are you happy that somebody else is chipping in?
OK, I'm ready.
OK, go ahead.
[dramatic music]
It's been more than 50 years since anyone walked on the Moon.
Whenever there's an actual return to the Moon
and it's in 4K, not in grainy black and white,
I think it's going to be a huge moment for the planet, huge.
From my perspective, we return to the Moon
first and foremost, because we have been gifted a proving
ground four days away for eventually going to Mars, which
is the next step on the grand journey.
It is our destiny in the long term
to venture out among the stars, I think,
for the good of humankind.
[dramatic music]
Houston, you're looking good.
Musk always talks about needing to make humans
an interplanetary species because if something happens
to Earth, it'll guarantee the survival of humans.
And Bezos has also talked about taking that next step
into people living in the cosmos.
So for them, really, the expenditure on spaceflight
is very much tied into their vision of what philanthropy is.
There may have been two different visions,
but in some ways, Musk and Bezos are
doing a lot of the same things, creating a new space economy.
Billionaires are motivated by nothing but money.
Listen, I don't like billionaires.
I think it's a terrible, awful concept.
But I think the byproduct of the exploration
that these billionaires are conducting
will be we all benefit.
Someday we'll all be going to space.
We'll all take rides up there.
There's going to be a lot of space tourism.
I think there will be hotels in orbit.
There will be people playing golf on the Moon.
There's going to be a lot of adventure
and a lot of spectacular vacations in space.
I believe we're going to have large space colonies, colonies
on Mars.
All of these things are going to take
tremendous industrial development in space,
but we're expecting that to happen
over the next several decades.
What do you think of this right here?
It's kind of translucent.
Yeah, it's translucent.
The original space program brought all kinds of really
cool developments.
Your cell phone, this stupid device that we're all stuck to,
the camera inside your cell phone, the cameras that are
filming me right now.
What's up?
I mean, navigation around the world, from your cars
to your airplanes.
We all rely on space assets.
But the really astonishing discoveries are yet to be made
on planets beyond the Moon.
We know so little about our solar system, let alone the two
trillion other galaxies.
We have to keep going.
We can't slow down.
We as a species, as far as space is concerned,
we're just still warming up.
We have not even begun.
We're going to be out there among the stars, making science
fiction no longer fiction.
[applause]
You got to get up close to the eyepiece of the telescope.
Space is inspiring.
[indistinct chatter]
And I think that the reason it's so inspiring,
it gets back to humans looking up at the sky
and seeing the eclipses.
It's the wonder of that open-ended cosmos.
I do think everyone should go to space, because I think everyone
needs a cosmic perspective, and that's the easiest way to get
one without any explanation.
You see it and you're like, [gasps]
damn, look how small and fragile it is.
And that's where we all live.
And all the borders and everything disappears.
And there is no race and there is no nothing.
It's just one little spaceship hurtling through space
at an incredible speed.
4, 3, 2, 1!
Seeing my first rocket launch, that
wasn't a rational experience.
That was an experience almost akin to a religious experience.
The confrontation with the infinite, to your own ego,
and watching yourself disappear against that.
It's a rare thing that something so exciting and scientifically
relevant and geopolitically relevant
also gets to provide us a neutral way to access something
very profound.
We humble ourselves before the cosmos.
We are lucky to be able to witness it.
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