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# DRAMATIC MUSIC #

Today we're living 25 years longer than our ancestors did a century ago,

but science is pushing us even further.

The single biggest thing is far more people living

far healthier for far longer,

far less of these horrible degenerative diseases

that rob us of our later years.

Now the race is on for a new kind of super longevity.

I would love to live a very healthy, I don't know, 140, 150 years.

I'd love that.

Relax.

And a never-ending youth.

I want to look like this forever.

27 forever, that's it for you.

Yeah, that's old enough for me.

I came late to motherhood,

and I will never forget they had

the clipboard over the bed that said geriatric mother,

and it still absolutely galls me today.

So as an older parent, I want to stay healthy, strong, and sharp.

But could the toxins hidden in our own anti-ageing routines

be quietly ageing us?

We have 10 times more plastic in our bodies than they did in the 1970s.

It's frightening if you think about it.

It is. It's frightening. Yeah.

And does the multimillion-euro longevity industry

really have the answer?

You could take stem cells from a young person

and put it back into that ageing person.

Carefully screened and matched plasma from young individuals.

Why are younger and younger people turning to anti-ageing surgery?

Oh, wow!

I can't get over that.

And where in Ireland should I be living

if I was serious about staying young forever?

In Boyle, there's no old ladies any more.

We all love our style and our fashion.

And everybody seems to have the same vibe about them.

Yeah. That spirit to get up and go.

# SONG: Gotye feat. Kimbra - "Somebody That I Used to Know" #

Who wouldn't want to slow the biological clock

for a longer life and healthier later years?

The anti-ageing business has a disappointing history

of selling us false promises.

But recently, science has begun unlocking the deeper secrets

of how we age, much of it focused on our DNA.

SelfDecode decodes your DNA

to give you science-backed insights and actionable

recommendations so that you can make the best choices for your body.

All right, get started.

There are a growing number of companies selling us

at-home DNA-based biological ageing tests

predicting weaknesses in our DNA that could impact how we age.

Add to cart.

And I was curious to find out what hidden traps might be lurking

in my own DNA,

because when it comes to healthy ageing,

it does feel like knowledge is power.

Okay, so spit into the circle.

Bullseye.

Is that enough, do you think?

I think that's enough.

My middle-aged bio-matter was being dispatched for analysis.

And 3 weeks later, I had the results.

What does it say?

Oh God, big red marker straight away. What is that?

Inflammaging.

Unfavourable.

So this, I think, means that I am prone

to inflammation diseases as I age, like

arthritis, which is I mean,

arthritis is rife on my mom's side of the family.

So I'm prone to inflammation.

So I want to know what can I do about it.

Today we have Grace here at Longevity Clinic.

With the growth in longevity medicine

comes a global wave of longevity clinics

servicing proactive agers who want to take control of the ageing process.

But to access one of these new medical longevity clinics,

I needed blood tests.

A lot of blood tests.

A lot of blood in there for a lot of tests.

So my blood results were going to London,

to a high-end longevity clinic

specialising in cleansing the toxins Lessons from ageing blood.

Sabine! Hi! How are you?

< And I was meeting pioneering longevity doctor Sabine Donnai,

who'd assessed what life-limiting landmines

might potentially be harming my DNA.

You asked for 247 blood markers sent.

I'm getting my exam results here.

You're about to open up and tell me...

What's happening. Yeah, what's happening.

Okay.

So let's start with toxicity.

You've had the plastic test done,

which showed 18 particles per millilitre blood.

Now you've got 5 litres of blood, so that's 5,000 millilitres.

18 particles times 5,000, that's a lot of particles.

It's frightening if you think about it.

Jesus.

Yeah. It is.

It's frightening.

So where would my plastics come from?

If we go for the bigger particles, if that's what it is,

then it'll be the ones you ingest.

So it'll be you drinking through a coffee cup

that you get from a takeaway somewhere.

The lid is plastic, so anywhere where there's hot food or

drinks in contact with plastics,

you will leak the plastic into your food and your drink.

So Sabine, when it comes to ageing specifically,

what are those plastics doing to me?

If we would measure your speed of ageing now,

you'd probably be ageing a bit faster.

It's a total toxic burden that is a problem.

What happens with toxicity,

it causes an inflammation in your system.

And if you've been looking into longevity and into health,

you would have heard inflammation again and again and again.

Because what inflammation does,

it's like a fire underneath your weaklings genetically.

And actually, on another test that I did,

my inflammaging markers were high.

Yeah. The moment we actually have inflammation in our system,

we're wasting energy on trying to deal with that inflammation

instead of actually repairing

and restoring and slowing down the ageing.

Glyphosate?

I don't know whether you've ever heard that word before.

It's one of the mainly used pesticides

that were legal for a long time in the UK.

That's not legal any more.

Okay, so you clearly have been in contact with it,

whether it was as a child or whatever.

It's a nasty one.

Oh, God.

It can put you at a higher risk of cognitive problems or cancers.

So ideally we would want to lower that.

Okay, so have you lived in the countryside?

I did as a kid, live in the countryside, yeah.

So this one we want out, okay?

So there's going to have to be some detoxification

we're going to have to look at. How do we get it out?

Some toxins are easier to eliminate than others.

The ones that have been stuck there, as it will have from childhood,

like glyphosate, you want to get rid of as soon as possible.

So anaphoresis, what it does, it cleans those out very quickly.

Dr. Donnai offers a specialised blood cleansing

treatment called apheresis.

Okay, so we're off.

See the blood come out? Yep.

And then you'll see it heading into the machine.

A 3-hour blood cleansing process that works on a similar principle

to dialysis, removing the blood,

cleaning out the toxins, and pouring the blood back in again.

We're taking 70ml per minute through that cannula,

so it's a significant amount.

I'm so excited to see all my gunk.

(LAUGHS) Get it out! Yeah.

Today, 55-year-old longevity biohacker Nicole Ward

had flown from LA to have her blood cleansed in two 3-hour sessions.

Still coming out at a good pace.

Yeah. Feel alright?

Yeah, feel great.

Nicole, you were all hooked up there.

How are you feeling?

Are you okay that I have a little chat with you?

Absolutely. No, I feel great.

I'm a pretty experienced,

what we would call biohacker in the States,

and so nothing really scares me that much.

How did you start your biohacking journey?

You know, at 30 I had the labs of a 55-year-old woman,

and then I just started looking how to optimise my health

from a longevity perspective.

The things I could do that you know,

would contribute to health span.

The truth of it is we're surrounded by toxins

and it's not a fair fight.

I heard like back in the '70s,

this is what the Rolling Stones used to get done in Switzerland.

Yeah, blood transfusions. We were like, is that true?

But this is a whole 'nother level, this type of technology.

And then in terms of longevity, you being a biohacker,

like what is the added life expectancy?

What are you hoping for?

Gosh, I would love to be live a very healthy,

I don't know, 140, 150 years.

I'd love that.

And can I be so crass to ask how much it is costing?

It's the equivalent of about 10,000 American dollars.

Yeah. You know, not everybody can afford.

I know.

These treatments and it's like in the longevity space,

it is very much those that can and those that can't.

I appreciate what you're saying.

I mean, I've spent I've spent so much

investing in my own health over time,

and it does take money. It's big stuff.

Over the past 3 hours,

Nicole's blood had been removed from her body through

one arm and re-infused through the other.

Now it was time to see what inflammaging toxins

had been removed from her plasma.

We're just eyeballing what we've taken out.

So this is the flush from the

filters mixed with a lot of sediment.

Do you mind if I just jump in here and earwig on this?

Because I'm just fascinated. No worries.

So, you can see there is a line here,

which tends to be where the heavier metals accumulate.

So, I mean, it is very subtle, but it is there.

Would that be a low metal load or an average metal load?

I can't really say.

I mean... Yeah, just the fact that it's there.

A lab analysis would reveal more about what other toxins beyond

heavy metals had been removed.

But Tom didn't seem too worried.

That was a lot to take in.

High levels of plastics in my blood,

and then a chemical that's been in my body since I was a kid,

which is affecting my ageing, which is affecting everything.

And I thought I was doing it all.

But the aphaeresis, I don't know, I need to get my head around it.

And it's obviously not something that I can afford to do.

It's a lot, you know, it's not for everybody.

If I was an inflammaging, plastics-ridden powder keg,

I wanted to know more about how that happened.

So to begin to understand the toxic load in my own immediate environment,

I was off to UCD to meet toxicologist Tara McMorrow.

Okay, Tara, so here are all me bits.

You came and you raided the gaff.

Let's start with cosmetics, specifically the hair stuff then.

Yes, so the first item is a metal detox product, hair care product.

Unfortunately, it does contain some nastier toxins,

and in this case, it contains a paraben.

The problem with parabens is that they've recently been identified

to be what we call endocrine disruptors,

which means that they impact our endocrine

signalling or hormone balance in the body.

So, the milder effects would be damage to the skin, weight gain,

and long-term chronic effects

could lead to cancers like breast

cancer, for example. Oh my God.

So then we'll go down here.

So this is my workout gear.

There can't be anything wrong with this.

Um, well, most workout gear will contain microplastics,

and there's very little that you can do to remove it.

Generally, they're tiny, but they have been shown to stick together

and when they enter the body,

so potentially they could impact our kidney or liver.

So basically the filtration systems of our body.

Generally, those clothes will also contain PFAS.

So PFAS are these forever chemicals.

And this is a serious concern

because it has been shown to cause cancers,

hormone-linked cancers.

There I am 4 to 5 times a week getting the runners out.

And we all know exercise is... Very important.

Good for keeping you young. Yes.

But the clothes you're wearing...

There's a hazard with the clothes you're wearing.

So, the pots and pans, I just brought a selection.

Generally, it's a Teflon-like substance

that's used to coat these non-stick pots and pans.

And it's recommended that once it's scratched,

that it shouldn't be used.

Teflon is a type of PFAS, one of these forever chemicals.

That's been shown long-term to cause cancers

and other illnesses and ageing as well.

It's been linked to skin ageing.

That's what I do, the kids' porridge in every morning.

Yes. Yeah.

Does that mean, like, automatically I'm increasing the amount

of plastic going into my system? Yes. Yes.

It's estimated that we have 100 times more plastic present

in our bodies than they did in the 1970s.

So it's a huge... 100 times more?!

Yes. Yeah.

Wow. That is a lot to take in now, Tara.

I mean, if I was to worry about this, the stress of this alone

will have aged me 20 years.

LAUGHTER Yeah. Yes.

# SONG: Ariana Grande - "Positions" #

Throwing out my pots, changing to cotton-based workout wear,

and ditching the parabens seemed a wise solution, but a costly one.

And I was still worried about becoming prey to the inflammatory

diseases of ageing.

So I headed to Belfast

to visit Ireland's first lifestyle longevity clinic,

hoping they might have the tools to unflamage me.

Hey, Tracey!

Kathryn, lovely to meet you.

Hi how are you? Lovely to meet you. Lovely to meet you. This is Ethan.

Ethan, nice to meet you. Kathryn.

So Ireland's first dedicated longevity clinic.

How long have you been open, Tracey?

Kathryn, we opened in June '23,

and it's only really now in this last 6 months

we're starting to see some real traction.

Will I go get changed?

Please go get changed.

We're excited to show you, Kathryn. Brilliant.

Okay, thank you.

I was seeing rooms,

lots of rooms full of gadgets and high-tech equipment.

But could anything in these rooms save me from ageing?

Holy moly, look at this baby!

Yes, so this is our hyperbaric oxygen chamber.

So it is. What does this do?

So whenever you're breathing normally,

you're breathing about 21 percent oxygen.

Okay. While you're in this chamber,

you'll be breathing roughly 95 percent oxygen.

So you will. It'll liquefy your red blood cells down

into the liquid plasma.

So that's how we get that extra oxygen into you.

And then in terms of people like me who want to stop the ageing process,

how does it how does it help from a longevity perspective?

It'll give you more energy, so it will.

One of also the things that we have a lot of people say

is sleep as well.

This is my time machine. This is your time machine.

Yes.

< I'd heard of hyperbaric chambers used to

decompress divers suffering from the bends,

but I wasn't a diver and I didn't have decompression sickness.

Bye. Bye.

Like so much longevity science,

this was traditional medical know-how

repurposed for people whose main ailment is not being young.

# SCI-FI SOUNDING MUSIC #

45 minutes later, and hoping my red blood cells weren't too liquefied,

it was time to emerge from my super oxygenated cocoon.

I feel like I should have a line like one small step for man,

one giant leap for mankind. ETHAN LAUGHS

And from there it was straight to full body red light therapy,

like a tanning bed that doesn't kill you.

With that red and blue light in there,

it basically helps with your collagen stimulation,

your rejuvenation, and improves skin tone if you do it regularly.

Oh, I'm a big fan of that. SAMARA LAUGHS

There was even longevity tech to address

the unspoken issue of sex after menopause.

This is our magic chair the Emsella chair.

This is going to deliver 11,000 Kegel exercises in 28 minutes.

Holy moly!

It's amazing for any females, particularly as we age,

our oestrogen levels start to drop

and the pelvic floor then obviously starts to drop then as well.

And we need that supporting everything

and keeping everything internally.

And great in the sack as well.

So I heard. Tightens everything up.

We should all be on it regularly.

Right, turn it on and turn it up.

Let's go.

Oh, oh, whoo!

Woo!

Take it off or you happy enough? I am very happy.

LAUGHS

< But if I wanted to freeze time,

there was an inevitability about the last ride

on this carousel of forever youth.

Good to go? Yep.

Encased in liquid nitrogen, I was about to feel the ice burn.

SHRIEKS

Oh, that's cold!

The longevity benefits are sold as mainly anti-inflammatory,

which feels simplistic, but it does kind of make sense.

And the extra element of pain

makes you feel that it must be doing something.

Oh my God, get me into that sauna!

In the IV drip lounge,

57-year-old clinic client Enda was settled in for an NAD booster.

The intravenously administered enzyme costs 175 pound per infusion.

Small change for this treatment's biggest poster girls.

So, José, what is NAD+?

We hear people talking about it, and the Kardashians are on it,

Justin Bieber is on it, but what actually is it?

We're talking about a coenzyme.

Basically, your body with age just lacks the capacity to produce it.

And what we are doing, we are facilitating.

So through the drip, basically,

we are just replacing what with ageing

your body is not able to produce any more.

So Enda, how often are you in the chair here?

Once every 6 or 8 weeks.

Why did you turn to NADs, or how did it all start for you?

My body was very sore, you know.

I sort of I used to play, you know, sport at a pretty decent level,

and I stopped doing that.

I was actually told that I couldn't run any more

because I had collapsed cartilage on my right knee,

and I took that on board and I stopped running for

probably 10 or 12 years.

So I came here because I thought the cryotherapy would help,

and then they talked about the, the NAD+.

I thought, well, yeah, that's something that's going to help me

as I'm ageing.

So I put that into the regime, into the programme as well.

So I run every other day now, 5.5K. I'm not trying to pull up trees,

it's just 5.5K. I came into fatherhood very late as well,

so I want to be able to run around with my kids here

and be around for a long time.

So I feel better now than I felt when I was in my 40s.

And it's not cheap.

No, it's not cheap, but it shouldn't be a decision about money

if you can afford to do something.

People think nothing of going out

and dropping 150 quid on wine and a dinner.

And actually, you know, through all of this, you know,

I've cut down that kind of stuff as well.

So it's paying for itself, probably.

Look, at the end of the day, you know,

I want to be able to look good, feel good.

Be well for as long as possible.

The last thing I want to do is, you know,

live till I'm 80 but not be able to,

you know, enjoy life.

Commitment to longevity comes at a cost.

And back in Dublin,

I was meeting scientist David Grimes,

who's a keen observer of the economics

of the longevity industry.

You know how much the worldwide wellness market is worth?

About 4.2 trillion dollars.

< I've been talking to biohackers.

We've been looking at 200 different types of supplements,

aphaeresis, the whole thing.

As a scientist,

what do you think about the longevity industry at this current moment?

What's happening now, and you've probably seen this first-hand,

is that people are immediately jumping to selling you something,

saying you need this, and they're pitching it to a particular market.

It is aimed at the worried well, people who are already,

due to socioeconomic circumstances,

probably doing okay on the longevity front.

The word individualistic... Oh, yeah.

..comes to mind. Absolutely.

And then, not to put too fine a point on it,

it's almost hyper-capitalist.

It's almost the idea that, you know,

you can afford better, you get better.

It's you, you, you.

But in reality, we live in a society.

Our health outcomes are largely shaped

by the environment in which we're in.

If you live in an area with high pollution,

you're going to suffer no matter how much

you spend on your individual health.

If we look at the determinants of what affects people's longevity,

the major factors are often socioeconomic.

Where you are born,

your poverty levels influence your health outcomes in life.

And the reality is we actually already know the things

that we can do that will improve ou r lifespan. We can avoid smoking.

We can, you know, eat a better diet or a more balanced diet.

We can drink less.

And also, don't be poor if you can help it.

And that is, you know, the bit they never tell you.

Accepting ageing is hard when we live in a culture constantly

telling us we need to avoid it.

Phil, how are you?

Fantastic.

And in part 2, I meet the people who believe in the power

of injecting young blood to cure ageing.

What have you done personally

in order to try and stop the ageing process?

Carefully screened and matched plasma from young individuals.

At 47, I've been thinking a lot about ageing healthily,

and despite my diligence around exercising regularly

and eating wholesomely,

I've been shocked to discover how toxins

could be accelerating my genetic

predisposition to inflammatory diseases of ageing like rheumatism,

and arthritis.

That's not good.

Yet I still have one of the most deadly known

toxins regularly injected as an anti-ageing treatment.

And that is the ridiculous irony of my own fight against ageing.

Okay, so now you're going to turn this way 45 degrees, just like that,

and looking just about there. Okay.

But the cosmetic side of our anti-ageing industry

is increasingly veering towards surgical interventions.

And the fastest-growing rejuvenating surgery in Ireland

is an eye-lifting procedure called a blepharoplasty.

But is the bleph really becoming the new Botox?

When you look in the mirror, you look at your eyes.

So it's the first place people look,

and it is the first place often where

t kind of gives away, you know, age.

So how many years could I shave off with a bleph?

The skin above the eyelids is removed,

the orbital fats have been reduced,

and then some rejuvenation as well under the eyes.

It is very, very seductive.

So hit me with the bad news.

What's the cost for something like this?

Typically, a blepharoplasty costs about 4,500.

And then if you do other treatments at the same time,

that can go up to 5 or 5.5.

That's a lot of money.

Seductive as Peter made it,

I'd be reticent about going the eye surgery route.

But for 37-year-old Jenny, the decision was made,

and today she was having an upper eye bleph operation.

Good, how are you feeling? Nervous.

Oh, I can imagine.

And I'm gonna start by saying your eyes look perfect!

Thank you!

LAUGHTER

I have lost a lot of weight.

I was around 24 stone and I've lost,

well, I'm now around 11 stone,

so I've lost over half myself. Wow!

Yes. Well done, you.

Yeah, 7 years in the making, I guess.

And unfortunately, like, the downside of losing that much weight

is it has aged me.

So I know there's like little things,

like I've got kind of like a little bit

of loose skin here and it's kind of sagged a little bit here,

and then my eyes as well.

Just with my eyes, I knew Botox kind of wasn't going to fix

that because of the additional skin.

So I saw the upper bleph and I thought,

like, do you know what I love about it?

You still look like yourself.

Yeah. Just a fresher version of yourself.

To me, Jenny looked too young to be opting for surgery,

but this was what she wanted and she was allowing me to accompany her.

Jenny will be awake for the full surgery.

Dr. Ahmed, what are you doing now exactly?

So I'm trying to mark the amount of loose skin.

We keep certain amount for her to comfortably close her eyes,

and everything excess is removed.

Now from here onwards, you will only feel me doing the procedure.

You'll only feel the instrument, but no pain.

Okay. I'm going to start the procedure,

okay? Yeah, no problem.

I have to admit, I wasn't expecting

the incisions to be quite this extensive.

Jenny was awake, but she was feeling nothing.

No pain? No, nothing.

Perfect.

Just feels a little bit weird.

Oh God, it's hard to watch.

I mean, the cutting of the eyelid

and peeling the eyelid off is is one thing,

but then the soldering and the smoke coming out of the eyelid,

and then the smell, the smell of burning skin.

It's quite disconcerting that she's awake

because I know what's going through her head.

What if I'm left blind? What if it all goes wrong?

Because your brain takes you to all those dark places.

See, okay. Do I look beautiful?

Mmm... LAUGHS

Oh, wow!

That's a good wow! That's a good wow! That is a great wow!

Can't get over that.

This one's down south. (LAUGHS) Yeah, yeah.

The cosmetic fight against ageing can be a bloody one.

But in longevity medicine,

blood is now being touted as the essence of youth.

In 2017, a Californian company began infusing blood plasma

from young donors into older people as a supposed age reversal treatment.

The US Food and Drug Administration warned against the practise,

stating there was no proven clinical benefit,

and the company closed its clinics.

The problem lay in the unregulated nature of the clinic.

And in the lack of clinical evidence.

But in Boynton Beach, Florida,

FDA-approved clinical trials have begun

to measure the effectiveness of young blood therapy for ageing.

And at the Maharaj Institute,

I was meeting the stem cell doctor

who's leading these young blood trials.

I trained as a bone marrow transplant

at the University of Glasgow in Scotland.

My work has always been on the, the stem cells that come from the bone

marrow, which is what we call haematopoietic stem cells.

And these stem cells are responsible for forming the blood

and the immune system.

You take the stem cells from a donor and you give it back to a patient

with a cancer or disease.

I mean, for me, bone marrow was like the squidgy stuff

that you get inside when you go into a butcher's.

I had no idea that bone marrow was essentially just your blood.

Mm-hmm.

So when you were working in Glasgow

on bone marrow transplants for cancer,

you then actually figured out that

and made the leap that this could actually work for ageing.

Yes.

And I came up with a very sophisticated test of being able to

look at the cells of the immune system from the blood.

We would draw a blood sample.

We would analyse the immune system.

And from that, we would be able to predict somebody's,

what's called somebody's immune age.

So if we look at the immune system between the ages of 20 and 40,

it's at its peak.

At 55, the immune system is going down.

So many people at 55 begin to say,

you know what, I'm feeling a bit older.

And that's just because the ageing of their stem cells of the bone

marrow causes the accumulation of ageing cells.

We call these senescent cells.

They're producing a lot of inflammatory proteins.

So that's the beginning of chronic inflammation.

Okay.

If that chronic inflammation continues, then at 65,

we have the onset of the diseases of ageing,

which are caused by chronic inflammation.

Usually by here, most people have about 8 chronic diseases.

So you believe that the immune system

is the direct this is the link on ageing?

The immune system is the most critical function

that we have to prevent the chronic diseases of ageing.

So the solution is very simple: keep the immune system young.

Now you're working on something that is so revolutionary,

taking young blood and injecting it into an older person.

Tell me about that.

Yes, you could take stem cells from a young

person between the ages of 18 and 35, preferably 18 to 25,

and put it back into that ageing person.

And then hopefully those stem cells will regenerate the bone marrow.

It will also regenerate the brain,

the heart, the lung, all the organs.

Instead of taking the cells, we would take the plasma,

cuz the plasma now contains all the factors,

the good factors that comes from the stem cells.

We freeze the stem cells, we take the plasma,

and we give it back to the ageing individuals.

So right now we are actively recruiting.

So the people who are taking part in this Young Blood trial,

what are the physical improvements that you're seeing?

Some patients are saying they've got more energy,

and also they're looking younger

because their friends are telling them they're

looking younger and asking them what's going on.

But of course they're not sharing the information.

Are you a religious man? Yes.

So what do you say to the people who say you're playing with God?

Mm-hmm. You know, is living and dying,

is ageing not just part of the human process?

It's part of the human process.

However, I don't believe that God wanted us to suffer.

And as an example, in the United States,

you have 750,000 people living in nursing homes

and they don't know where they are

because they've got Alzheimer's disease.

I don't think that that was his destiny for us.

He showed us that centenarians can live to be 100 and healthy.

And what I think he's asking us to do

is look to see what are they doing and why are they doing that,

and use the science and the gifts

that he's given us to be able to do that.

Do you believe this is the death of ageing?

That's a very big statement to make, but I believe it is.

Half an hour away in Pompano,

I'd heard there were a group of people

who turned their obsession with extreme longevity

into an actual religion.

I am heading to Pompano Beach

where there is a church whose followers

believe that they will live forever.

So much so that while they're waiting for medical science

and technology to catch up.

They freeze themselves in the hope of glorious resurrection,

and they have invited me.

It'S their Sabbath, and they've invited me to their

weekly immortality mass, which I'm very much looking forward to seeing.

This is our third mic check. Let's turn the mic on.

Bark. How does that sound? Okay, there you go.

< Inside the chapel, Palm Beach property auctioneer Neal

was getting ready to lead today's service.

Okay, good. All right, thank you, gentlemen.

Good.

Neal, what do people call you?

Are you the pastor of the church or the...

So since this is not a Christian church

but rather a transhumanist church,

my title is officiator. Officiator.

Yes. Okay.

So how does an auctioneer start a passion for not dying?

This is where my heart is, to find a way to reverse ageing,

to be able to live as long and healthy as possible.

What age do you think you're going to live to?

Oh, I don't think I'm going to die.

My hope and plan is to live an extended life.

In the adjacent church hall,

the congregation were gathering,

and I was meeting church founder and former mortician Bill Falloon.

Bill, hi, how are you? Fantastic.

Lovely to meet you. Yes, absolutely.

You've got a great crowd. Everyone's eating.

Oh, it's going to get much more crowded tonight.

We're going to pack the place.

We've got so many people right now interested in living longer.

They want to defeat death,

and that's what this church was established for.

We hope that mankind's going to develop

the technology to live forever, and we'll have a whole lot of fun.

Bill, can I ask you, what age are you?

I'm 71 years of age, and it's absolutely terrifying.

Does it terrify you? Yeah, of course.

I mean, I know what my projected lifespan is.

Ageing is a horrible phenomenon.

You get sick, you feel lousy, and you die fast.

We already know how to extend life a little bit,

but we want to go way beyond that.

So you genuinely believe then in the next 20 to 30 years

we could be living to 200 to 300. Oh, absolutely.

What we're doing now, we and others,

the wealthiest people in the world are putting big money

into research where we add genes that we had when we were young,

but they disappeared as we grew older.

We're putting them back in.

And as a result, we're seeing old mice grow biologically younger.

We're hoping to see old monkeys grow biologically younger.

And then we apply it to people.

Gene therapy alone,

we believe we'd be able to take older people

and regenerate them to some extent.

We hope all the way back down to age 25.

It still seems so far-fetched to me.

And so for people who say that it's all a bit crazy,

what do you say to them?

Well, the difference today is no one

says age reversal is crazy any more, at least to me.

They used to say that, but nowadays the public is accepting

age delay and age reversal as a science that may enable them

to achieve those objectives.

And so in the meantime then, is that where cryonics comes in?

Big time. That's Plan B.

Plan A is defeat ageing, cure the degenerative diseases,

enable people to live indefinitely.

But if we fail, then cryopreserve the patient

in the future, get them back to life.

Do you know people in your own social circle who have been frozen?

At this stage, I'm 71 years of age, I know more people

who are cryopreserved than I do who are still alive.

I've been doing this professionally since age 22.

Exactly what happens,

what's the process to successfully freeze

and then potentially unfreeze somebody?

Well, ideally you're dying of a terminal disease.

We have an emergency response crew

that's there doing a standby.

Literally waiting sometimes days or weeks for you to legally die.

They immediately restart your heart.

They put in all kind of medications to protect against ischaemic damage.

They lower the temperature to protect against the kind of damage

that occurs when people die.

And by lowering temperature, we preserve that patient.

Full-body cryopreservation in perpetuity

costs around 200,000 dollars.

Most of the church members cover the cost with life insurance policies.

So if I die, what's the mechanism of communication?

How does that work? Well, I wear two bracelets

in case one falls off, but there's an 800 number you call,

and we locally have a mobile operating room

that will literally send the operating room

to where the patient is and then prepare them for shipment

to either Michigan or Alcor in Arizona.

This is the Alcor bracelet.

I've been signed up for cryonics since I was a teenager,

and this is something that is our backup in the event, well,

all that technology that we want to reverse ageing

doesn't occur in time.

We get to be frozen, and then when that technology exists, come back.

Not come back in the sickly old way,

but the idea is that they can revive cryopreserved patients,

they almost certainly will reverse ageing.

Anyway, let's do the creed.

We and read along with me, you guys, okay? You ready?

We believe that all of life is sacred

and that we have been given this one life to make unlimited.

< In the church, service was starting,

and church deacon and longevity medicine

investor Peter Dreher was taking the opening prayers.

We follow Arthur C. Clarke, who said

the only way to discover the limits of the possible

is to go beyond them into the impossible.

Amen.

# SONG: Queen - "Who Wants to Live Forever" #

Everybody in the church is doing something for age reversal, right?

They're taking pills or they're taking rapamycin.

Most of them older and wealthy.

They have lots of investments, like me.

Our belief is that the Bible, Old Testament and New Testament,

was written as a science document, and it's medically perfect.

Our next speaker tonight is the founder

of the Church of Perpetual Life.

Let's welcome Mr. Bill Falloon.

So we're continuing the library here

of all the ways to live forever because

the Bible promises us to live forever.

This is a study done in China in primates.

They used a special type of stem cell,

and they were able to show in half the tissues tested

significant reversal of genetic ageing.

And our team is hard at work to gain access

so we can study it in primates,

validate what work they did,

and then initiate human trials.

So, Peter, do you think you're going to live forever?

I think so.

I mean, barring accidents, of course.

Okay.

Life would tomorrow will be like life yesterday.

Now, there's another important thing.

Okay. You have to have a reason to live,

right? So you can get really lazy about living.

I'm fairly wealthy already,

but I have a goal of increasing my wealth tenfold every decade.

So I'll be over 100

in order to reach my goal of becoming a billionaire

at that rate.

APPLAUSE

It felt like the church was a magnet for people who believed

money could buy them power over ageing and death.

We hope we can all make it to 130,

150, and indefinite life eventually.

Back in the hall, a youth-boosting vegan dinner was being served.

The meal might be plant-based,

but there was a definite bloodlust in the room.

What have you done personally

in order to try and stop the ageing process?

Carefully screened and matched plasma from young individuals.

Now, plasma is the liquid component of blood, and it contains exosomes,

cytokines, hormones, that have positive effects on virtually

all the systems in the body and the hallmarks.

So are you a doctor? No, not a physician.

Oh, okay.

So how many times have you had young plasma

from young donors injected into yourself?

Well, it's, it's an infusion technically,

although they do inject it,

but 3 times and more in the future.

Johnny is treated with non-FDA-approved

young blood infusions at a clinic in Texas.

He is not a participant in Dr. Maharaj's FDA-approved human trials.

Texas is the only state where this is doable,

and most of the donors are university students.

I have more energy, more focus.

I'm able to work longer.

I truly believe I'm in my prime, more effective than ever.

In the dinner line, I'd spotted church volunteer Devin,

who seemed to be among one of the church's younger members.

Can I ask you about your look? You look amazing.

I'm a member of the furry fandom.

Okay.

And so is the sound tech, Bark, over there.

Okay.

So, I'm a cat. Bark is a dog.

You identify as a cat?

At least partially, yeah. Okay.

And I would have always thought like a cat has 9 lives.

Yeah. So you're like,

you've got a better chance.

Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully I'm only on my second life.

LAUGHS

So Devin, what brought you to the Church of Perpetual Life?

Like, what was the what was it about the philosophy?

I don't think ageing is wonderful

and all these things that people say,

you know, if they want to go all the way to immortality,

that's the best possible stance.

So part of the philosophy is that people get frozen.

Is that something that you have thought about, have signed up for?

I plan to sign up next year when I turn 40.

Sorry, you are 40 next year?

You look like you're 21. That's the point. (CHUCKLES)

What are you doing?

I take 4 different pharmaceuticals and about 60 supplements.

Every day? Yeah.

I started when I was 27 with the interventions,

like the serious interventions,

and I keep adding more whenever I feel like I'm slipping.

So is that the age you never want to go beyond?

27 forever, that's it for you?

Yeah, that's old enough for me.

Not getting any older.

It seems like an impossible dream.

But there are 5 places in the world they call Blue Zones

where people do live significantly longer.

But I was about to discover a potential 6th Blue Zone

right on our own doorstep.

Everybody seems to have the same vibe about them.

Yeah. That spirit to get up and go.

There are 5 places on planet Earth that are identified as Blue Zones,

places where people live unusually long and healthy lives.

But west of the Shannon,

I think we might be harbouring a 6th Blue Zone.

The women in Roscommon live to almost 85 years of age.

And that is on par with the average

life expectancy of a woman in Sardinia,

which is a designated Blue Zone.

So I want to know, what the hell are they

doing to achieve that life expectancy?

Older people in the Blue Zones tend to have purpose.

They stay occupied and connected.

And in Boyle, I'd heard there was a thriving boutique

where the entire team of female staff are past our standard retirement age.

# BUOYANT MUSIC #

And only non-Blue Zone blow-ins like me think that that's unusual.

Hello!

Hi, how are you? You're very welcome.

Lovely to meet you. Oh, thank you so much.

And Perpetua. How are you? Very welcome.

Delighted to see you.

What a place! Yes.

By the way, I love the fact that the entire window is blue.

For the blue zone. LAUGHTER

So this is your business? My business, yes.

Very good. So how long has it been in the family?

Since 1954, the Marian year.

So my mum and dad opened it,

and then I came back into the business in '81,

so I'm here since.

And Brid, how long have you worked here?

I came I came here in 1981.

I will be 82 next in a few months' time.

82? Yeah.

And loving coming to work every day?

Love coming to work every day.

What's your official role?

Well, I look after the office, the books.

Okay. Yes.

You wouldn't be without her. No, absolutely.

She's my right hand. Oh, fantastic.

Well, listen, show me around.

It's a lovely place to work.

I can feel the colour. Yes.

As soon as you walk in the door. You're hit with happiness.

We love colour.

In Boyle, sure look-it,

there's no old ladies any more.

We all love our style and our fashion.

I love that. There's no old ladies in Boyle.

< No old ladies, just capable women staying steadfastly in the game.

Roscommon women are living longer than other women in Ireland.

Can you shed any light as to why you think that might be?

Less stress, I think, would be one big reason.

Yeah. And country living, I think,

would have a lot to do with it.

Yes.

Religion is also really important as well.

79 percent of Roscommoners

still identify as Catholic and go to Mass.

Yes. Is that important for you?

Very important for me, it is really.

I go to morning Mass usually.

If I hadn't religion and if I hadn't work,

I don't think I'd be able to live.

Brid, there, 82.

Perpetua, nearly 70.

In fact, the average age of all the women in the shop was about 70.

And they are just the girl gang.

I mean, retirement, what?

65?

Good luck.

They are their own little community.

They are there to serve the community.

They love what they do.

They are living life on their terms, the way they want to

and looking and feeling fabulous.

# LIVELY DANCE MUSIC #

Blue Zone ageing also means staying active,

and in Roscommon town,

they are normalising exercise for a generation

too often excluded from gym culture.

Hey Michael, how are you? Martina, how's it going?

Oh my God, it's a very different energy

in here than in the big gym outside.

I think it's a fair point that older people

are ostracised when it comes to the gym,

like they're they're not being catered for.

Yeah, well, I think, you know,

the research shows us that when people are

in their 50s, the gym membership falls off like that.

Yeah.

So we provide a solution here, an exercise solution.

It's a circuit of power-assisted exercise machines, right?

And a holistic approach to health.

So their physical health, mental health,

their social health, and those elements are so important here.

And you know what I'm noticing?

There's a lot of chat going on in the background.

So there's a big social part of this. There is.

There's friendships being made here every day.

There's people who haven't seen each other

in years that come to meet here.

There's people who've made new friendships here.

It's amazing what it's doing to that age group.

You know what I'm gonna ask. Of course I have to have a go now.

I don't think I've ever exercised before in knee-high boots.

I come in here now nearly every day and it's great.

And it's amazing how... My muscles, I've firmed up right.

And the social aspect of it,

it's brilliant that you can chat...

Yeah, and get all the local gossip.

Well... (LAUGHS) or bitch.

LAUGHTER

# LIVELY COUNTRY WESTERN MUSIC #

But at the end of the day,

what really matters is the to still be invited to the party.

And at Roscommon's thriving social dancing scene,

young and old socialise together,

just like in the Blue Zones.

The women of Roscommon outlive other women in Ireland.

So I want to know, what are they doing?

What's the secret?

Because all the Roscommon men are so good to them.

LAUGHTER They're so good to them.

Amazing.

It's the difference in the ages on that floor.

It brings every age, young and old.

When you're on the dance floor, you don't have an age.

Peter, do you mind me asking, what age are you?

I'm 74. 74.

And you're a widower? I'm a widower, yeah.

What do you love about the dancing?

The freedom you get through the dance.

Yeah.

And you're meeting different people all the time.

Young or old, doesn't make a difference.

And everybody seems to have the same vibe about them.

Yeah. That spirit to get up and go.

Yeah. Simple.

So can we really stay young forever?

It felt like I had to come to Roscommon

to find an answer I could believe in.

Because we stay young in our social connections,

in being accepted for the age that we are,

and in the sense that we're valued.

We stay young in movement.

We stay young in wholesome food.

And as for all the scientists and the medics

I think they have yet to find a better answer than that.

People will often say, "How come nobody's lived to 130 yet?"

Well, that's gonna take another 60 years.

As soon as we've got one drug that definitely slows down

the ageing process, that's gonna open the floodgates.

So it could just be a matter of a few years.

Can the biology be known? Yes.

Do we have incredible tools to interrogate that?

Yes.

So yeah, I think it's not unreasonable.

Now, will it happen in my lifetime?

I think there'll be a light rail connection to Dublin Airport first.

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