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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,635 Hello. This is Frank Spotnitz. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,075 I wrote and directed this episode. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:13,315 It's called "Alone". It was episode 18 of the eighth season of The X-Files. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,154 And since this was the first episode | directed, 5 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:22,872 I gave a lot of thought as to what the story should be and how I'd go about it. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,676 Just looking at all these shots puts me right back in the moment. 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,594 There's two schools of thought when you first direct an episode. 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,389 One is that you just try and come up with something very simple, 9 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:38,392 so that you get through it and don't screw it up. 10 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:42,393 The other is that you just go for it and give yourself a challenge 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,829 and show you can handle it. 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:50,517 I took the latter approach. This episode has guys in suits, and CG, and a rotating set, 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,639 and all the stuff that we'll talk about as the show goes on. 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:00,636 These are two good actors. That old man, who's not so old in real life, is James Otis, 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,077 and playing his son there is Tony Ketcham, a great guy, very funny guy. 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,439 And they made my first-time experience a really pleasant one. 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,237 There you go. There's an interesting shot. 18 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:18,074 When you're a writer, you imagine these great shots. 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,276 Then when you actually try and direct, 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,909 you realise what the camera can do and what lights can do. 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,595 And there are limits. 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,752 Not a lot of limits, but there are limits. 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,197 That shot of the fireplace, usually a shot like that, you would wait until later. 24 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,875 You'd have the second unit or the insert unit get a shot like that. 25 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:43,794 It doesn't require principal actors, and why take up your main unit's time 26 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,758 with something so simple, like a shot of the fireplace? 27 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:52,153 But I was determined to try and get all the inserts during main unit. 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,755 I gave up on that eventually, because it proved impossible. 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,070 This is a hard shot. 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,950 You imagine all these things, and when you actually direct it's difficult to achieve. 31 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,113 I had the camera rotating up and above this man's head. 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,671 And to have the camera do that, to stay close to his face, to stay in focus 33 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,629 and not have any shadows from the camera was a challenge. 34 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,196 Anyway... 35 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,558 Here's the son hearing something is wrong in the next room. 36 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,593 I had never directed before so I didn't know how to prepare as a director 37 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,148 for shooting my material. 38 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,310 So I sat with my script in my office, 39 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:41,032 and ljust went and literally designed every shot here in my head. 40 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,432 And then when I came to the set, I knew exactly what pieces I'd be shooting 41 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,630 and how they'd out together. 42 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,678 And more or less I followed that plan perfectly 43 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,435 through all the days of shooting for this episode. 44 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,469 And, really, what helped me the most in preparing to direct 45 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,199 was that I had spent years in editing rooms 46 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,716 watching how film cuts together and the problems you get 47 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:11,432 if the director hasn't anticipated the way film is supposed to go together properly. 48 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,031 Here | just wanted to show the audience a little bit of the monster, 49 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,592 enough to give your imagination something to latch onto. 50 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,598 And there you go. There was the teaser. 51 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,675 The first thing I saw was the teaser. 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,591 The editor of the episode, Lynne Willingham, 53 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,719 who's been with The X-Files since the fifth season, called me down. 54 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,509 She was excited for me to see it, because she thought it was so great. 55 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,957 That cut is basically the way she cut it from the very beginning. 56 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,273 And I was pleased with myself that I had not completely screwed up the show. 57 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,192 As a writer, it always helps to know exactly 58 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,039 why you wanna tell a story. 59 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,955 This was an episode that had a lot of special requirements. 60 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:09,273 It helped me focus very clearly on why I wanted to tell it. 61 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,628 It was the 18th episode of the eighth season, 62 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,793 and so I knew it would be the last stand-alone episode ever 63 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,919 for agents Mulder and Scully, that David Duchovny was leaving the series, 64 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,594 and so I wanted it to be special. 65 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:29,915 And I came upon the idea of having Scully leaving the X-Files office. 66 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,874 I knew if the show did go on, she would not be assigned to the X-Files office. 67 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,197 Agent Doggett and his new partner Agent Reyes would. 68 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:41,751 And it was a way to look back at the show and some of the fond memories 69 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:47,710 that we as writers and you as viewers had of the show over the past eight years, 70 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,360 the Mulder and Scully era. 71 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,638 And so I had Scully moving out and looking at these keepsakes 72 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,673 and came up specifically with the idea of her giving to Agent Doggett 73 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,513 this memento that Agent Mulder had given to her 74 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,309 in the two-part episode called "Tempus Fugit" and "Max". 75 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,752 Which I thought thematically was just perfect and made a lot of sense. 76 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:15,593 She's expressing my feelings for Robert Patrick 77 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,399 when she says to him how much she owes to him. 78 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,598 Robert Patrick really did get us through the eighth year of the show. 79 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:28,835 So it was easy for me to plug into the emotion Scully was feeling in this scene. 80 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,116 More obviously in this episode, | created a character 81 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,829 who could speak to the Mulder/Scully era very directly. 82 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,992 That is the person you'll meet in a few moments, 83 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,595 Agent Leyla Harrison, played by Jolie Jenkins. 84 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,151 And Leyla Harrison, as some of you may know if you're X-Files fans, 85 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:55,873 fans enough to have bought this DVD set, was a fan of the show who passed away, 86 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,755 and I'd managed to correspond with her once before she died. 87 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,158 I came up with the idea of a character who was a fan of the show. 88 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,313 Of course, this is a fictitious world and there wouldn't be a fan of the show. 89 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,916 I made her an accountant at the FBI who had followed Mulder and Scully's adventures. 90 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,468 ltjust seemed like a perfect tribute to her 91 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,758 to name the character after Leyla Harrison. 92 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:22,956 This is also nicely played. 93 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,759 These are just two wonderful actors. 94 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,350 Some people give wonderful performances on TV but they've been created editorially. 95 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,274 But these are two people who are just terrific all the time 96 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,717 and make myjob as a director incredibly easy. 97 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,952 l was moved shooting this scene. On the day it brought tears to my eyes. 98 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,874 Actually, I was more moved shooting it than lwas when it out together. 99 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:53,478 It was really just the power of the real-world ideas in this scene, 100 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,990 Robert Patrick and Gillian Anderson. 101 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,799 lt affected me. 102 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,919 So here's a nice ironic moment for the character of John Doggett. 103 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,639 How did he end up alone in the X-Files office, 104 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,996 this cop, sceptic, who never had any desire to be on this unit? 105 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,914 Now here he is, the standard-bearer for the X-Files. 106 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,514 That's a funny place for his character to end up. 107 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,754 This is very revealing. It tells you how much he likes Scully and how much he misses her. 108 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:28,753 And it's not Scully he sees. It's this very cute, young, eager agent. 109 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,434 I got lucky with the casting of Jolie Jenkins. 110 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,274 The casting director and his assistant brought her in 111 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,070 and I knew as soon as she came in she was perfect. And she was great from day one. 112 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,276 Really understood the character 113 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,079 and brought a lot of humour and humanity to her. 114 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,311 She brings out the Clint Eastwood in Robert Patrick here, 115 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,312 which is really what makes for so much of the comedy. 116 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,552 l was so charmed by her performance that I did something you don't normally do, 117 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,872 in a show like ours, which is | end the scene with her, with a guest character. 118 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,709 She has this nervous look at the end of the scene. 119 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,951 I really enjoyed that. 120 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,790 There's a lot of fluid camerawork in here, 121 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,112 which is inspired very consciously by so many of the fine directors 122 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:24,150 that we've had on the show - Kim Manners and Rob Bowman and David Nutter - 123 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,676 who were always moving the camera, finding interesting frames. 124 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Notjust to be moving the camera but to help tell the story 125 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,437 and create a visual interest. 126 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,354 It's never too showy, I hope, or too self-conscious. 127 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,756 This is supposed to be Ellicott, New York, which is a real town, 128 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,674 near where a former assistant of mine, Michele Fazekas, grew up. 129 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,470 She grew up in Buffalo, and this was my little inside tribute to her. 130 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:52,676 As was the character of Leyla Harrison. 131 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:58,511 Some of the way she speaks is kind of like the way Michele speaks or spoke. 132 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,554 Actually, we're in Topanga Canyon. 133 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,031 This house is on stage six at 20th Century Fox in West Los Angeles. 134 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,635 But the exterior was Topanga Canyon, 135 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,714 which anybody who knows Los Angeles knows is near Malibu. 136 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,474 This is an exposition scene. lt's relaying the clues for the mystery here. 137 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:29,236 But I gotta say, to me, the monster was the least interesting part of this episode. 138 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,916 I came up, deliberately, with a very simple classic monster here, 139 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,310 just a guy who turns into a salamander man. 140 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:42,594 Because I wanted it to be about the X-Files, about Mulder and Scully leaving, 141 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:47,151 about Doggett taking their place but having to do so alone. 142 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,758 And I wanted the sort of elegiac quality to this episode. It was the end of an era. 143 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,910 Some complicated monster story 144 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,279 would've taken screen time away from my ability to express all those other ideas. 145 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,999 One thing viewers probably don't think about 146 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,078 is that these shows have to come in on time. 147 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,438 There's a format, and it must be adhered to, to the second. 148 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,513 My first cut of this episode was nine minutes longer 149 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,870 than the version you're watching here. 150 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,869 And, with help from some of my fellow producers, David Amann and John Shiban, 151 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,472 I got it down to two minutes over and was still fairly happy. 152 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:30,028 But the last two minutes I took out were painful. 153 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,197 There are things that l was sorry to take out. 154 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,392 I don't think they made it better, but you gotta do it. 155 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,315 Sometimes there are things explained in our scripts, but on the air it's not explained. 156 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,793 It's simply because we didn't have time to use all the footage we shot. 157 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,115 This is another Clint Eastwood moment 158 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,636 for Robert Patrick's character here, which I liked. 159 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,557 To me, the scariest ones work better if there's humour to offset the fear, 160 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,759 if there's lightness against the darkness. 161 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:12,079 And it's so easy to build empathy for Jolie Jenkins' character here 162 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,239 cos her heart is so clearly in the right place. 163 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,194 Again, we're in Topanga Canyon here. 164 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,193 Robert Patrick's gonna walk up the hill after seeing the Salamander Man 165 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,512 and magically end up in Encino, which is where the mansion exists, 166 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,594 where we shot the exteriors for the next part of the story. 167 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,110 This episode works on one level - if you've never seen The X-Files, 168 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,715 you gather that she's a follower of Mulder and Scully's adventures. 169 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,793 But if you are a die-hard fan, I think the rewards here are much richer 170 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,713 because you know all the things she's alluding to. 171 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:00,636 It makes you laugh, cos it rewards you for having followed the show. 172 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,156 There's a dry look from Robert. 173 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,068 He's an intense guy, I'll tell you. A great guy, but very intense. 174 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,550 This is, I will freely admit, a steal from Planet of the Apes. 175 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,390 There's that moment in Planet of the Apes when the astronauts are skinny-dipping 176 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,994 and their clothes disappear from the shore. 177 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:35,275 That's one of my favourite movies and I very self-consciously stole. 178 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,909 I think it's always a good thing to steal. 179 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:44,791 If something works, it's likely to work again. The context is so different, 180 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,517 I don't think it spoils anyone's enjoyment. 181 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,431 This man here, David Duchovny, 182 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,671 was also a big reason why I ended up directing this episode. 183 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,756 I had been reluctant to direct 184 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:01,790 because my duties as producer and writer were pretty demanding as it was, 185 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,351 and also I saw these amazing directors come in and barely make the schedule. 186 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,352 I wasn't sure I wanted that kind of hardship. 187 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,638 David encouraged me to direct before it was too late. 188 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,475 And I finally decided that I would be sorry if I didn't direct before he left the show. 189 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:21,472 And so ljust barely made it under the wire. 190 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:24,711 He is great to work with, because he's not only a fine actor, 191 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,879 but he really stimulates your thinking and challenges you to do better. 192 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,428 This scene was improved immeasurably 193 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,798 by some ad-libs that he came up with on the set. 194 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:41,477 Very funny and charming and very strange to see Mulder and Scully in this situation. 195 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:45,838 At this point we still had not revealed the paternity of Scully's baby. 196 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,152 Mulder and Scully presumably knew if they had consummated their relationship. 197 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,394 And so this scene is meant as a tease. Did they or didn't they? 198 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,672 It could well be that Mulder is just a good close friend helping her go to Lamaze 199 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,990 or it could be more. 200 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,550 Later we found out that it was more. 201 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,275 But for the actors, they had to play on that fine line. 202 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,913 l was always struck by the chemistry between Mulder and Scully. 203 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,589 And watching it now, as I am, with the sound off, 204 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,796 and see that chemistry. 205 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:33,751 Here we are no longer in Topanga Canyon but in Encino, and this is also in Encino. 206 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,713 We had to take very, very good care of this house. 207 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,110 We lost a lot of time taking good care of it 208 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:46,314 and making sure we didn't so much as scuff a hardwood floor. 209 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,474 This was a painful cut I made right here. That scene originally had much more to it. 210 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,993 There's a complicated camera move 211 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,795 that went up to the wall and found the creature there. 212 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,236 Now we're back on stage six, or five, 213 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:08,395 one of the two stages where we primarily filmed The X-Files on the Fox lot. 214 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,553 Our production designer, Corey Kaplan, did a beautiful job as usual. 215 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,990 And the set decorator, Tim Stepeck. 216 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,000 Here I got another insert from main unit. 217 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,156 Watch this. 218 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,829 As we open the book, there you go. 219 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,117 That's main unit. That's Robert Patrick's blurry head. 220 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,272 This shot is quite a shot. 221 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,113 It goes by really fast, but this was a big old deal. 222 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,875 We had a huge crane rushing down that hallway. 223 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,269 I'd say the crane was about 100 feet long. 224 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,639 And we had the whole camera crew running with that thing. 225 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,430 Had to practise it a few times to get itjust right, make it stop. 226 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,951 We were all really proud of ourselves for that shot. That was pretty cool. 227 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,634 There were more cuts in this scene as well. 228 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,111 Originally, we saw a blurry, out-of-focus monster behind Agent Doggett. 229 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,038 It wasn't just that camera point of view. 230 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,795 We literally saw there was a monster there. 231 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:23,557 It works just fine this way. But, again, the constraints of time. 232 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,076 And the suspense. It's not the monster. 233 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,310 "Agent Harrison." 234 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,917 Just love the lighting here. Bill Roe, director of photography. 235 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,391 I like the deep black on the right side of Agent Doggett's face. 236 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,830 Rim lighting around his eyes and nose. 237 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:57,238 This was late at night. This was like 2.30, 3am, the end of a long week. 238 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,511 These actors have gotta act like they're perfectly fresh and wide awake, 239 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:09,597 even though it's the fifth day of a 16-hour—a-day week. 240 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:19,878 A charming little moment here. She doesn't have her safety off. 241 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,112 Jolie Jenkins had never had to carry a gun before in any part she'd played. 242 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,034 l was struck by the reality of what a frightening thing a gun is to hold. 243 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:35,638 It was so heavy for her. But it actually worked great for the character. 244 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,550 And here's another shot that proved to be hard to achieve. 245 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,791 This, coming up to her face, 246 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,994 and then even more difficult was this, zooming down at her. 247 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,958 Watch this. 248 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,552 That. Because of the constraints placed on us 249 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,076 by the gentleman who owned this house in Encino, 250 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,754 we couldn't put a proper crane on that sidewalk. 251 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,310 He didn't want the weight of a crane on the pavement. 252 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,315 So we had to use a very short crane, which didn't really achieve my objective. 253 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,758 So I shrunk the image of Jolie Jenkins there, 254 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,276 and had John Wash and Mat Beck, our visual effects producers, 255 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:21,830 extend, paint additional scenery around the edges, 256 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,115 and then blow up the shot. 257 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,476 This was a big old deal. 258 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,440 We had to dig this hole here. 259 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:38,036 You can miss this. It's a blink, but there's a shot here, overhead, vertical, 260 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,879 of Agent Doggett falling into the trap. 261 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,951 It was actually shot on stage. 262 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,430 We got way high up into the permanents, they call them. 263 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,471 It just went by there. 264 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:56,478 Shot straight down so you could really see him going down. 265 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,076 A lot of little pieces when you have action like that make it exciting and convincing. 266 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,194 Cos the hole that we dug at the mansion was only a few feet deep. 267 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,158 You couldn't have actually fallen into it. 268 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,440 Back in Topanga Canyon, with Mitch Pileggi. 269 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,990 l was sorry I wasn't able to give him more to do in this episode. 270 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,914 ljust put him in cos I wanted to be able to work with Mitch, finally. 271 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,915 So I found things for him to do. It can't have been that demanding for him as an actor. 272 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,152 I didn't want to miss the opportunity cos I didn't know if I'd be directing again. 273 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:35,475 This scene with Gillian Anderson in her apartment was the first scene that I shot. 274 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,358 There's that moment when you direct for the first time 275 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,908 when you describe the camera move 276 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,673 and you just wonder, are they gonna buy it? 277 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,671 Are the actors and crew gonna say 278 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,320 "We're not gonna do that. You're out of your mind"? 279 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,676 l was very relieved that I got away with it. 280 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,159 And she's thinking. 281 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:03,714 Virtually all of the filming inside of this cave was done with the second-unit crew, 282 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,916 which is the smaller crew. 283 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,150 We have two units working on The X-Files: 284 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,312 the main unit, which shoots for eight days every episode, 285 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,918 and the second unit, which shoots the final three days and most of the inserts. 286 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,436 We had lost our usual second-unit crew at this point in the season. 287 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,795 Most of them had gone off to do a movie. 288 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,556 So I inherited an outside cinematographer, a talented gentleman named Robert Primes, 289 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,872 who did a greatjob with the stuff and was a big fan of the X-Files lighting style 290 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,994 that Bill Roe had practised so beautifully for so many years. 291 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:44,390 So I owe him a big debt for so much of this, which looks very much like our show. 292 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,873 There were a lot of challenges shooting in this set. First of all it was very constricted. 293 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,636 If you've ever seen what a camera crew looks like, it's a lot of people, 294 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,555 and it's very hard to shoot in a tight space like this and it slows you down quite a bit. 295 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,949 But also how do you light it? 296 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,952 There are some practical light sources there. 297 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,672 But Bob came up with a lot of clever ways to throw light on these walls 298 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,513 to give the scenes more depth and visual interest. 299 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,355 That shot you just saw of him looking up at the grate was actually CGI. 300 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,079 That was just a hole with green fabric. 301 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,879 And John and Mat extended it 302 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,592 to make it look like he was looking up at the grate that he had fallen through. 303 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,110 Here's David and Gillian. 304 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,679 lwished I could have given them more screen time in this episode. 305 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,788 There are so many objectives in a show like this and you can only achieve so many. 306 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,670 And, again, this is David, 307 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:56,798 such a smart actor, not wanting to play this sentimental. 308 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,077 And it gives tension to the scene. 309 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,516 He doesn't want her to be here. He wants her to go home. 310 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:09,869 And so he's gonna go out and help find out what happened to Agent Doggett. 311 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,279 These two actors play off each other so well. 312 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:19,158 Poor Jim Otis, having to play dead. 313 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,520 Lying half-naked on an aluminium table. 314 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,588 When you're shooting these things, they're completely out of sequence. 315 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,478 You're on a sound stage and you've gotta get interiors 316 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,836 of wherever you are in your episode on certain days, 317 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:45,751 and then other days you're all exterior or all nights or all days, so it's all mixed up. 318 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,674 So when you're preparing to shoot, you've gotta be very clear in your mind 319 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,911 about where the characters are at that point in the story 320 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,949 and what your transitions are going to be, visually, in and out of scenes. 321 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,152 I like this one. 322 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,350 I'm always very conscious of things like that, visual transitions. 323 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,994 This set is the main set, 324 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:17,590 and there were actually multiple versions of it, 325 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,800 because one of the challenges I mentioned I set up in this episode was a rotating set. 326 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,392 One version of this hallway rotated about 200 degrees. 327 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,354 And I'll show you the shots that made that necessary. 328 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,352 They're coming up very soon here. 329 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,039 Agent Doggett's looking around, hears something. 330 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,953 Look at the lighting here. This is what I was talking about with Bob Primes. 331 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,191 He had this pattern light shining. 332 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,750 I don't know where it came from, but it works, you buy it. 333 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,910 Now watch this. 334 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:05,749 Creature. Now this is the rotating set right there. 335 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,954 That's a guy in a suit and a wire. Right there, all that stuff. 336 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,238 The set was rotating. It's like the Fred Astaire dance routine in Easter Parade, 337 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,916 to make it look like he could walk up the side of the wall and onto the ceiling. 338 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:26,030 And I intercut between Salamander Man on the rotating set 339 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:30,272 and Robert Patrick on the real nonrotating set. 340 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,318 And then I also had a shot or two in there that were visual composites, 341 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,393 that seemed to put the Salamander Man and Robert Patrick in the same frame, 342 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,313 even though that's physically impossible. 343 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,234 You couldn't have a man moving like that, across a wall. 344 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,472 The set had to rotate because if I'd tried to pull him across the wall, 345 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,996 he wouldn't move naturally or quickly. 346 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,595 There's one shot there where it was just the tail and Robert Patrick. 347 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,955 It wasn't the whole thing. 348 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,110 Here's poor Tony again. 349 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,836 A little aside here is that I named this character, Gary Sacks, 350 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,514 after my oldest friend from Phoenix, Arizona. 351 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,797 Gary Sacks, who I've known since the second grade. 352 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,589 I thought it was a nice tribute to kill him in this episode. 353 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,719 I didn't think it would be nice to kill his father, so I named his father Arlen, 354 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,429 instead of Gary's real dad's name. 355 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,277 But I think Gary got a big kick out of dying in this episode. 356 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,510 In a number of episodes, over the years, 357 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:41,789 I've put the names of people I went to school with, former employers. 358 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,632 Just in-jokes that I myself know, and a few others do. 359 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,474 This is like a Vaseline thing on the lens. 360 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,870 There's another fancy director's shot. 361 00:25:55,120 --> 00:26:00,672 Those are the things that eat up your time, of course, but they're fun. 362 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,556 Agent Mulder returning to Ellicott, New York. 363 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,554 Mulder's always such a troublemaker. 364 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,475 I enjoy seeing him go afoul of the bureaucracy and the protocol... 365 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,671 which he does with so little concern. 366 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,034 They timed this just right, this shot here. 367 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,989 Says his line, and then off camera. 368 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,593 You spend a lot of time when you're directing 369 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,752 trying to make things time outjust right. 370 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,070 This was a hard sequence. 371 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,668 This has a lot of pieces to it. 372 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:52,676 Climbing, climbing. And, again, shooting in a tight space is very hard. 373 00:26:52,760 --> 00:27:00,519 And so I had to get angles up and down and across the stunt man and Robert Patrick. 374 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:08,195 Here's Mulder almost literally following in Doggett's footsteps. 375 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,397 There was a lot of wire removal from the visual effects team, 376 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,109 cos for safety reasons both Robert Patrick and the stunt man 377 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,791 had to be wired in that vertical tunnel for the climb. 378 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,230 Nice gunk falling down toward camera. 379 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,159 Back in Encino. 380 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,312 That's the moment when Agent Mulder discovers the Apollo medallion. 381 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,075 We don't know it yet. We'll realise later that's what he found there. 382 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,869 Now we introduce Herman Stites. 383 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,670 Another wonderful actor, with a great face. 384 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,196 And, again, I wasn't really interested in the mystery 385 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,432 and spending a lot of time talking about the monster. 386 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,830 I think you know from the moment you meet this guy, he's the bad guy 387 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,552 and he's got some connection to the monster, 388 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,872 whether you realise yet that he is the monster. 389 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,954 It's much more about Mulder and Scully one last time, 390 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,431 pursuing their investigation in an unorthodox manner, 391 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,109 and about Doggett and his inexperienced partner. 392 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,518 Again, here's one of my fancy transitions, which I was eager to do. 393 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,634 I guess the newer you are as a director, the fancier you wanna be, 394 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,188 to show people you know what you're doing. 395 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,553 We went magically from stage five back to Encino. 396 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,394 That was actually a piece, that grate, 397 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,519 and some sod that we lay down at an angle, 398 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,996 so the sod sort of rose up above the ground toward the set piece 399 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,469 and the camera could go right behind it. 400 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,711 But it looked like we were rising up out of the earth. 401 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,718 David, interestingly, doesn't like when Mulder is too smart or knows too much. 402 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,549 I remember our discussion that day 403 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:32,710 was how to make this interesting and not too easy for Mulder. 404 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,516 You won't hear that often from leading men, 405 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,717 that they don't want their character to be too smart. 406 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,078 I think that's part of what's made Mulder so appealing 407 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,152 and so lasting as a hero, 408 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:55,356 is his humanity and his frailty and his imperfections in so many ways. 409 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,479 He's not James Bond, although I love James Bond. 410 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,791 This is many different things. 411 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,908 lt's Robert Patrick on stage, it's somebody else's fingers in Encino, 412 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:16,433 it's Zach against a blue silk on stage, Zach actually at the house in Encino. 413 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,996 It's a very complicated piece. 414 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,911 And falling. 415 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,310 Lots of pieces. 416 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,754 We're halfway through the episode already. 417 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,910 So now we know for sure 418 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:41,997 that man and monster are together, or whatever's going on here. 419 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,756 I think we might have suspected that when Agent Doggett fell through the trap, 420 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,559 but now there can be no doubt. 421 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,154 I stole again, while I'm being honest... 422 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,753 I'm not sure whether it was Bill Roe's or one of the camera operators' idea, 423 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,995 or Steven Buck, the first assistant director, to have that manhole shot, which I liked. 424 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,358 Anyway, I stole again, as l was being honest about stealing. 425 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,672 The idea of Agent Doggett's fingers being stepped on 426 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:22,029 is taken directly from North By Northwest, which is a wonderful movie. 427 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,032 If you haven't seen it, you will definitely enjoy it. 428 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,669 If you like The X-Files, you'll love that. 429 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:36,156 This scene was much longer and it was all good, and it broke my heart to shorten it, 430 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,994 but time being what it is... 431 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,594 I felt very guilty throughout all these scenes 432 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,196 because poor Robert and Jolie had to wear these miserable contact lenses, 433 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,273 very uncomfortable, but they make their eyes look like they're screwed up. 434 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,876 They're made for the movie business by an ophthalmologist. 435 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,956 And neither one of them is a contact-lens wearer. 436 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,999 After shooting for hours, they became very uncomfortable, 437 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,756 and their eyes were bloodshot, and this went on for days and days. 438 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,718 Now the plot thickens. 439 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,476 Gary Sacks, my old friend, is missing. Where did he go? 440 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,758 Sunflower seeds. Another nod to those who know. 441 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,231 spitting out sunflower seeds. 442 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,949 l was trying to find as many of those things as I could for this episode. 443 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,271 I had another thing that ended up on the cutting room floor. 444 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,312 I had Scully call Danny in this episode, 445 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,517 and you gotta be a die-hard to know what that's about. 446 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,469 Mulder and Scully used to call Danny all the time for research and help in the FBI, 447 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,757 and we never once met Danny or saw him. 448 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,637 But no time. 449 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,508 This combination, we had David actually out in Encino at night, 450 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,673 but then this stuff, the close-ups, was actually on a sound stage. 451 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,228 I hate to spoil the illusion. 452 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,869 These scenes were much longer and more charming, funny stuff. 453 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,030 And here's an insert coming up that I also shot with main unit on location. 454 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:38,036 Very eager to hold up this medallion and see the real background out of focus behind. 455 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,676 I know. It sounds crazy. You're thinking "Who would ever know the difference?" 456 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,591 Lisa Kaseman played the pathology assistant here. 457 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:58,231 These scenes are the stock in trade of The X-Files, these tech explainer scenes. 458 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:04,077 It's always a challenge to make them somewhat interesting. 459 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,995 | always try to find - we all always try to find real scientific research and principles 460 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,437 to support the fiction we've created in the episode, 461 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,909 and this scene was no exception. 462 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,391 Everything I'm saying here is scientifically accurate. 463 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,630 I can't remember what I said, 464 00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:28,590 but if you watch the episode again and check with a biologist, 465 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,639 they'll tell you at least in theory it was sound. 466 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,555 This is where Scully went off to call Danny, 467 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,270 but because you've seen the DVD, you know. 468 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,636 Here we go. The blind leading the blind. 469 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:51,075 This, to me, was a very important scene 470 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:57,235 in the shape of Doggett and Harrison's relationship. 471 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:05,468 Doggett's really come to care for her, and she has been so cheerful and... 472 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,751 can-do. 473 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,039 And this is the first point when you really sense she's afraid. 474 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,874 I always try and want characters to play against what they're feeling. 475 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,679 It creates a nice dynamic in the scene. 476 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,593 Somebody's afraid but doesn't want you to know, 477 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,309 or somebody loves you but doesn't want you to know they love you. 478 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,113 lt's two levels instead of one. 479 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,193 This monster stuff... 480 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,871 There you go. There's the rotating set again. That's how he was able to do that. 481 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,317 Monsters - you wanna see enough to have your imagination 482 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,473 latch onto something specific that's scary and creepy and icky. 483 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,554 But, on the other hand, if you see too much it's just cheesy and ridiculous. 484 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:02,557 It's always the fine line you walk, and hopefully I didn't cross it or fall off it here. 485 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,877 And that's what became of Gary Sacks, 486 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,475 his guts sucked out by the Salamander Man. 487 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,836 My crew gift to the crew for this episode was a bottle of wine, 488 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:20,155 real wine from Stites, a private reserve, harvest red, liquefied for easy digestion. 489 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,590 And it had a little salamander on it and a little X-Files logo. 490 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,399 Collector's items now on eBay. 491 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:34,075 You just look at that shot. The director of this episode tried to make it interesting, 492 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,075 of her picking up the file, and these angles, the verticality of them. 493 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:44,280 The second episode | directed, I took a completely different approach, 494 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,832 but here l was trying to goose it up to make it as interesting as possible. 495 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,755 Again, this is a classic example of how little you see. 496 00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,312 You wanna capture the imagination of the audience, make them wanna see more. 497 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,517 And now Mulder is on the run. 498 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,957 And David is a very fast runner, very good athlete. 499 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,278 That night he was joking about how he could catch this guy, no problem. 500 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,237 And the truth is, he could. 501 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,993 That's a CGl monster, in case you couldn't tell. 502 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,993 That's a guy on a skateboard, I hate to tell you. 503 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,953 David jokingly called Salamander Man Lawnzilla. 504 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,079 That's CG, against the real house. 505 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,073 That's a set piece composite with David at the real place, 506 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,631 but the roof was on-stage, with our Salamander Man. 507 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,989 | just remember shooting this. It was cold and late on a Friday night. 508 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,192 So was this. And we were running out of time. 509 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,635 That's CG. That's amazing. 510 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:06,510 And then he changes mostly off-screen into Herman Stites. 511 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,718 Visual effects like this, you realise how quickly the art has evolved. 512 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,749 You couldn't have done this when we began The X-Files. Now we do it on a weekly basis. 513 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,675 This was Zach's idea, this little goop on the cheek. 514 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,116 Wipe it off, which was a nice detail to end the episode. 515 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,872 Whenever you can find specific details, it makes things so much more memorable. 516 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,157 That's the advantage people making features have. 517 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:39,199 They have more time to find details, to find little moments. 518 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,353 You're rushing sometimes on a television schedule just to get through the work. 519 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:49,151 Some of my favourite things in movies and TV shows are tiny, idiosyncratic details. 520 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,757 This is great Bill Roe lighting again. 521 00:38:53,840 --> 00:39:00,678 He has the lights down low, which makes everything kind of creepy and scary. 522 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,834 You don't think about these things consciously, but itjust works. 523 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,869 So now it's Act Four. This was a very important moment to me. 524 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,034 Agent Harrison, the risk was that she was a lightweight character, 525 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:21,638 just a flake and a fan who really did nothing but get Agent Doggett into trouble. 526 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,957 And lwanted her to have the moment of realisation here. 527 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,556 In truth, I think she's solved the mystery before anyone, 528 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,719 which validates her character in a way. 529 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,195 You can really see the Bob Primes lighting here, the spray of light against the walls. 530 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,353 It really enhanced what was already a great set. 531 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,630 And now he's gone. 532 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,473 I haven't talked about Mark Snow, but let me say 533 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,313 what a greatjob he did on this episode, 534 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,349 and does virtually every week, always makes these things so much better. 535 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,516 It's my favourite part of the job, 536 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,315 going to his house and just hearing how much better the show gets, 537 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,278 without me having to do anything. 538 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:17,913 All of Mulder's points of view here of the Salamander Man are on the set that rotates. 539 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,958 I ran out of time here. I wanted to have more shots that were tie-ins. 540 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,113 Again, that's the trade-off you make, time and money. 541 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,035 A lot of ad-libbing went on here between David and Robert, 542 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,191 the only way to make it exciting. 543 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:41,594 You can't script this shouting back and forth and hope for the spontaneity that you need. 544 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,349 Here we go. Fire. 545 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,797 Interestingly, as I said, I was a little reluctant to direct 546 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,553 because of all my duties as a writer and producer. 547 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:58,109 In fact, I had no idea how it was gonna end. 548 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,590 I had not written Act Four, which you're watching now. 549 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:06,396 It was while I was prepping as a director that I figured out how to end this show. 550 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,550 I thought this climax was good, 551 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,518 because both Mulder and Doggett had to be heroic 552 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,955 and it played on the scary nature of this monster, 553 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,637 which was that it could come from anywhere, it could come from above you. 554 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:25,556 And there's a morph, accomplished by John and Mat. 555 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,274 And there you go. 556 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,552 But the episode's not quite over yet. 557 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,710 One more important note to play. 558 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,917 Again, I wanted the elegiac feeling 559 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,276 and the awareness that a baton was being passed. 560 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,072 We were leaving the Mulder and Scully era for the Doggett and question mark era. 561 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,833 One last allusion to Scully's pregnancy. 562 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,512 Doggett wondering if they are at the hospital because of the baby, 563 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,192 but they're not. 564 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:10,478 And this scene was longer, too. Had to be cut. Still plays fine. 565 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,036 This last scene with Leyla Harrison. 566 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,795 I think she plays it great. She's charming and winning. 567 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,555 It's an ad-lib. l'd scripted what they were gonna talk about, 568 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,760 this issue in the feature film that I had seen many people wonder about, 569 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,992 which was how did Mulder and Scully get back when his snowcat ran out of gas? 570 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,035 Thought it was fun and self-deprecating to bring it up here. 571 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,711 But I had Mulder and Scully, obviously, ad-lib 572 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,999 because they have wonderful comic timing and ljust thought it would play better, 573 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,550 rather than trying to script every word they said here. 574 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,794 So I had more than one camera running, so I could use different angles of their ad-libs. 575 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,874 But as it turned out, it played bestjust in a two shot. 576 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,878 And David gave me some great directing help here. 577 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,676 I had Jolie smiling and laughing while they bickered. 578 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,638 And he said "Do one where she doesn't smile, 579 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:22,110 where she's just wondering how to react to these people." 580 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,476 It was funnier, because you had that tension, 581 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:31,078 instead of releasing it by letting her smile and laugh along with us. 582 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,639 Some people said it was weird to watch them bicker 583 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:39,350 but I thought it was exactly right for where they were in the relationship, 584 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,992 Coming up on the final shot of the show and Robert Patrick, 585 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:54,677 and what a wonderful, empathetic actor he is. 586 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,709 And used a wide lens and tried to make that hallway look really big. 587 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,870 And that was the end. 588 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,316 I had a great time directing and I hope you enjoyed the show. 589 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,919 (child) I made this! 590 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,911 Visiontext Subtitles: Sally Lewis 53459

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