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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,367 --> 00:00:11,800 What does a brain need to be healthy? 2 00:00:14,033 --> 00:00:16,767 Well, it needs nutrients from the food you eat, 3 00:00:16,867 --> 00:00:18,633 it needs oxygen from your blood, 4 00:00:18,733 --> 00:00:23,833 plenty of water but there's something else, something equally as important. 5 00:00:23,933 --> 00:00:40,633 It needs other people. Human beings are extremely social creatures. 6 00:00:40,733 --> 00:00:49,767 We come together, we team up, we share moments of intense joy and disappointment. 7 00:00:51,667 --> 00:00:53,567 We don't just seek out other people to have a good time. 8 00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:58,333 Your brain function depends on the social web that you're in. 9 00:00:58,433 --> 00:01:04,633 Your neurons require other people's neurons to thrive and survive. 10 00:01:04,733 --> 00:01:10,200 I want to show you how our brains are fundamentally wired to work together... 11 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:19,200 How this social network that envelops us from birth is vital for our survival. 12 00:01:22,533 --> 00:01:23,867 Yeah? Ok! 13 00:01:23,967 --> 00:01:28,233 Understanding how brains deal with each other allows us 14 00:01:28,333 --> 00:01:35,233 to understand what bonds our species, driving us to help one another. 15 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:42,100 And what makes us hate... What allows acts of human violence. 16 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:49,333 It helps us to make sense of our past and holds the key to our future. 17 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:11,133 There are 7 billion people living today-- 7 billion brains moving, choosing, acting, 18 00:02:11,233 --> 00:02:16,067 believing, and connecting with other brains. 19 00:02:17,633 --> 00:02:20,433 Brains are traditionally studied in isolation. 20 00:02:20,533 --> 00:02:25,300 But, in fact, much of circuitry of the brain has to do with other brains. 21 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,700 We're fundamentally social creatures. 22 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,733 And our society is a complex web of interaction. 23 00:02:31,833 --> 00:02:36,767 On any normal day, we intersect with an enormous number of people. 24 00:02:38,233 --> 00:02:41,433 Our lives are built on these intersections, 25 00:02:41,533 --> 00:02:47,300 not just between us and our family and friends and work colleagues, 26 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,500 but also between them and the people they meet. 27 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,433 Even the most basic encounter... Like getting a cup of coffee... 28 00:03:01,533 --> 00:03:04,733 Relies on trust with a stranger. 29 00:03:04,833 --> 00:03:08,167 - Can I get a latte, please? - Definitely. Thanks. 30 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,133 Everywhere we look, we see complex social interactions-- 31 00:03:14,233 --> 00:03:21,800 relationships forming and breaking, bonds of love and support, social networking. 32 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:27,133 We clump into large groups to share our knowledge. 33 00:03:27,233 --> 00:03:29,733 We got all these random spots in your brain 34 00:03:29,833 --> 00:03:32,700 that get wired up into an associative neural network. 35 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,067 We work to impress each other. 36 00:03:35,167 --> 00:03:39,300 And we swap ideas. I'll stick around for any questions that anyone has. 37 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,300 Thank you. 38 00:03:43,167 --> 00:03:46,133 Most research looks at one brain at a time, 39 00:03:46,233 --> 00:03:50,433 but that misses the fact that a great deal of our brain activity 40 00:03:50,533 --> 00:03:56,033 is dedicated to communicating with each other, interpreting each other. 41 00:03:56,133 --> 00:04:02,033 Our social drive is deeply rooted in our neural circuitry. 42 00:04:05,100 --> 00:04:07,733 Take a look at this film from the 1940s. 43 00:04:07,833 --> 00:04:10,200 What do you see happening here? 44 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:15,467 Is this just a simple animation of some shapes or something more? 45 00:04:15,567 --> 00:04:24,967 Do you see a chase? A fight the big one seems to be pushing the little one around. 46 00:04:25,067 --> 00:04:29,733 Seems like the two triangles are in a little bit of a squabble. 47 00:04:29,833 --> 00:04:34,667 There are relationships here in terms of one is more dominant than the other. 48 00:04:36,233 --> 00:04:41,300 Back in the 1940s, psychologists Fritz heider and marianne simmel 49 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,900 created this film as part of an experiment. 50 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,900 The ball doesn't seem to want to be in there. 51 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,967 It's freaking out. It's scared. It looks like a trap to me. 52 00:04:51,067 --> 00:04:56,867 It looks like the small triangle is being shut out and, like, trying to peer in. 53 00:04:56,967 --> 00:05:00,333 They are paired in a way that seems friendly. 54 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:03,633 - Yeah! This is really fun. - It's fun, right? Ha ha! 55 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:10,067 What heider and simmel found, as I did, is how easy it is to look at moving shapes 56 00:05:10,167 --> 00:05:17,767 and to see meaning and motives and emotion all in the form of a social narrative. 57 00:05:19,167 --> 00:05:21,933 I kind of get the sense that they're cats and dogs. 58 00:05:22,033 --> 00:05:25,233 It seemed like the big one might have been, like his, his dad or something. 59 00:05:25,333 --> 00:05:30,100 Just call it more of, like, a mating ritual two competitors going for one possible mate. 60 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:38,000 These are just shapes on a screen, but we can't help but tell stories about them. 61 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:42,700 Why? It's because our brains are so primed for social interaction 62 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,233 that we look for intention and relationships all around us. 63 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:54,167 One way we navigate the social world is by judging other people's intentions. 64 00:05:55,700 --> 00:06:02,033 Is she trying to be helpful? Are we a trustworthy team? 65 00:06:02,133 --> 00:06:04,867 Our brains are good at making these sorts of judgments. 66 00:06:04,967 --> 00:06:07,100 And we do it constantly. 67 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:13,167 But do we learn this skill from life experience, or are we born with it? 68 00:06:15,067 --> 00:06:17,100 To figure out which one it is, 69 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,267 I've invited over some people who don't have much experience with the world. 70 00:06:23,267 --> 00:06:30,800 I've invited them to a puppet show. These babies are all under 12 months old. 71 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:34,533 They're just beginning to explore the world around them. 72 00:06:34,633 --> 00:06:39,833 You could say they're all a little short on life experience. 73 00:06:39,933 --> 00:06:45,033 We decided to run a simple experiment developed at Yale university. 74 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:52,400 Here's a duck struggling to open a box. 75 00:06:56,167 --> 00:07:08,033 One bear helps the duck. The other is mean to the duck. 76 00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:13,533 Ok, bowie, here you go. There are two puppets... 77 00:07:13,633 --> 00:07:17,733 When the show's over, I let the babies choose a bear to play with. 78 00:07:17,833 --> 00:07:19,633 ...want to play with? 79 00:07:19,733 --> 00:07:22,167 Yeah? Ok, is that the one you want? All right. 80 00:07:22,267 --> 00:07:26,967 Almost every one of them chooses the bear that's been kind. 81 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,933 These babies can't walk or talk. 82 00:07:31,033 --> 00:07:35,567 And yet they already have the tools to make judgments about others. 83 00:07:36,933 --> 00:07:39,033 Yeah? Ok! 84 00:07:40,433 --> 00:07:42,333 It's often assumed that trust is something 85 00:07:42,433 --> 00:07:44,833 that we learn from our experience in the world. 86 00:07:44,933 --> 00:07:48,833 But these experiments demonstrate that even as babies, we come equipped 87 00:07:48,933 --> 00:07:52,833 with social antennae for feeling our way through the world. 88 00:07:52,933 --> 00:07:55,267 The brain comes with inborn instincts 89 00:07:55,367 --> 00:07:58,433 for figuring out who's trustworthy and who's not. 90 00:08:00,967 --> 00:08:06,800 As we grow, our social challenges become even more subtle and complex. 91 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,500 Understanding others is one of the most demanding operations 92 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,300 that our brains perform. 93 00:08:15,867 --> 00:08:18,767 They have to interpret words. 94 00:08:18,867 --> 00:08:25,100 And, more than that, inflection, facial expressions, body language. 95 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:35,300 "Does she like me?" "Is he interested in what I'm saying?" "Do they want my help?" 96 00:08:36,967 --> 00:08:43,433 Society runs on our ability to read each other's social signals. 97 00:08:43,533 --> 00:08:50,133 Take that ability away and the world becomes a very strange place. 98 00:08:57,367 --> 00:09:03,300 Car enthusiast John robison has always struggled to read other people. 99 00:09:04,733 --> 00:09:10,867 When I was a little boy, I was bullied and rejected by other kids. 100 00:09:10,967 --> 00:09:12,267 And that didn't happen with machines. 101 00:09:12,367 --> 00:09:17,833 You know, I could stand, by, a tractor on my grandparents' farm. 102 00:09:17,933 --> 00:09:19,833 And I could learn how to adjust it. 103 00:09:19,933 --> 00:09:22,233 And it wouldn't tease me or do anything bad. 104 00:09:22,333 --> 00:09:24,267 It wouldn't run away. It would always be there. 105 00:09:24,367 --> 00:09:25,867 And I could count on it. 106 00:09:25,967 --> 00:09:30,267 And i--i guess I learned to make friends with the machines 107 00:09:30,367 --> 00:09:32,767 before I learned how to make friends with other people. 108 00:09:32,867 --> 00:09:37,100 In time, John's affinity for technology 109 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,967 took him to places his bullies could only dream of. 110 00:09:41,067 --> 00:09:44,867 By 21, he was a roadie for the band kiss. 111 00:09:44,967 --> 00:09:48,467 This was me back with, kiss in the seventies. 112 00:09:48,567 --> 00:09:50,967 I look older and fatter and stuff. 113 00:09:51,067 --> 00:09:52,600 I don't look the same anymore. 114 00:09:55,067 --> 00:09:58,367 Surrounded by legendary rock and roll excess, 115 00:09:58,467 --> 00:10:02,400 his outlook remained different from other people's. 116 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:04,533 People would come up to me all the time. 117 00:10:04,633 --> 00:10:08,000 And they would say, "what's this guy like," or, "what's that guy like?" 118 00:10:09,367 --> 00:10:14,100 I would say, "yeah, their stage setup, they had sunn 2000s bass amps," or... 119 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,100 Or, "gene played sunn coliseums, "and we had seven bass amps chained together. 120 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,200 We had 2,200 watts in the bass system for that." 121 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:24,267 But I maybe couldn't tell you the first thing 122 00:10:24,367 --> 00:10:26,500 about the musicians who sang through them. 123 00:10:29,833 --> 00:10:35,033 Now I realize that shows that I did kind of live in a different world all those years-- 124 00:10:35,133 --> 00:10:37,300 a world of machines and equipment. 125 00:10:40,367 --> 00:10:46,733 When he was 40, John was diagnosed with asperger's-- a form of autism. 126 00:10:53,067 --> 00:10:58,267 Many regions of the brain are engaged during social interaction. 127 00:10:58,367 --> 00:11:02,300 But in autism that brain activity isn't seen as strongly. 128 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:07,467 And that's paralleled by diminished social skills. 129 00:11:07,567 --> 00:11:14,700 I didn't really understand that there were complex messages in faces 130 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,500 until I was well into adulthood and learned about autism. 131 00:11:20,033 --> 00:11:25,567 I knew that people could, display signs of crazed anger. 132 00:11:27,300 --> 00:11:32,800 But if you, um, asked about more subtle expressions-- 133 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:36,400 you know, "I think you're sweet, "and I wonder what you're hiding," 134 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:39,667 or, "I'd really like to do that," or, "I wish you'd do this..." Or that. 135 00:11:39,767 --> 00:11:44,200 I...i had no idea about things like that. 136 00:11:49,633 --> 00:11:53,567 But then came a transforming moment in John's life. 137 00:11:53,667 --> 00:11:58,267 In 2008, he was invited to Harvard medical school 138 00:11:58,367 --> 00:12:07,067 to take part in an experiment on his brain overseen by Dr. Alvaro pascual-Leone. 139 00:12:07,167 --> 00:12:11,933 It was an attempt to try to understand how activity in one area 140 00:12:12,033 --> 00:12:16,967 affects activity in an area... In another area and how that affects behavior. 141 00:12:18,867 --> 00:12:22,933 The experiment was only meant to help the scientists gain greater knowledge 142 00:12:23,033 --> 00:12:29,167 about the autistic brain, but then something unexpected happened. 143 00:12:31,067 --> 00:12:36,967 John was given transcranial magnetic stimulation or tms. 144 00:12:37,067 --> 00:12:40,233 Magnetic coils were placed next to his head 145 00:12:40,333 --> 00:12:46,933 to generate minute electrical currents in the brain and alter its activity. 146 00:12:47,033 --> 00:12:52,733 The researchers targeted different regions of John's brain to see whether interfering 147 00:12:52,833 --> 00:12:58,233 with his brain activity had any effect on his behavior. 148 00:12:58,333 --> 00:13:00,667 They would test me after the session. 149 00:13:00,767 --> 00:13:04,400 I would go home kind of not knowing what to expect. 150 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,233 At first there was no result. 151 00:13:07,333 --> 00:13:11,533 But then they targeted the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex-- 152 00:13:11,633 --> 00:13:15,667 a region involved in flexible thinking and abstraction. 153 00:13:15,767 --> 00:13:21,200 And something dramatic happened. Somehow I became different. 154 00:13:24,667 --> 00:13:31,267 He contacted us--very excited to say, you know, "the effects of the stimulation 155 00:13:31,367 --> 00:13:33,067 "seemed to have unlocked something. 156 00:13:33,167 --> 00:13:35,367 "And the effects is still lasting. 157 00:13:35,467 --> 00:13:39,100 And I now can do things that I could never do." 158 00:13:43,467 --> 00:13:49,233 After tms, I was able to, sort of read signals from other people 159 00:13:49,333 --> 00:13:51,800 and understand what was going on. 160 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:57,733 So I listened to that, fascinated by it, and thought, "ok, well, whatever. 161 00:13:57,833 --> 00:14:00,800 It'll go away." But it didn't. It... 162 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:02,633 It actually, um, remains something 163 00:14:02,733 --> 00:14:06,833 that--that had really fundamentally changed in... In him. 164 00:14:06,933 --> 00:14:14,633 Somehow, and entirely accidentally, the tms had unlocked a whole new world for John. 165 00:14:14,733 --> 00:14:16,667 ...vegetable sandwich to bring home. 166 00:14:16,767 --> 00:14:17,933 What have you got... 167 00:14:18,033 --> 00:14:20,667 I'd be tempted to say, "I couldn't read people and now I can," 168 00:14:20,767 --> 00:14:22,067 but that's not really true. 169 00:14:22,167 --> 00:14:24,400 Ok. How about a full-size one of them... 170 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:26,233 Sure. 171 00:14:26,333 --> 00:14:32,067 It's more accurate to say I had no idea there were these messages emanating 172 00:14:32,167 --> 00:14:33,600 from other people. 173 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:38,500 Tms showed me those messages. 174 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,267 And now that I'm aware that they're out there, everything I do is different. 175 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:47,900 All of a sudden, you can walk around and engage the world. 176 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,533 And it's a big, big thing. 177 00:14:50,633 --> 00:14:53,133 Ok, thanks! 178 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:58,167 We don't know exactly what happened neurobiologically. Um... 179 00:14:58,267 --> 00:15:00,667 But I think it now offers the opportunity for us 180 00:15:00,767 --> 00:15:03,800 to understand what behavioral modifications, 181 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:06,067 what interventions might be possible 182 00:15:06,167 --> 00:15:09,467 to learn from him that we can then teach others. 183 00:15:12,333 --> 00:15:18,433 John's transformation is a reminder that all the activities of the human brain, 184 00:15:18,533 --> 00:15:22,933 including the subtle interplay of emotions and relationships, 185 00:15:23,033 --> 00:15:29,700 are rooted in the detailed patterns of trillions of electrochemical signals. 186 00:15:36,733 --> 00:15:40,433 Somehow, humans can look at each other and study 187 00:15:40,533 --> 00:15:45,800 the arrangement of facial muscles and then process that information 188 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:50,533 into an understanding of other people's thoughts and emotions. 189 00:15:52,033 --> 00:15:56,900 It's an astonishing skill because the cues are so subtle. 190 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:04,567 And the processing is so rapid that the whole operation runs under your radar. 191 00:16:06,333 --> 00:16:12,067 It only takes 33 milliseconds for your brain to process basic information 192 00:16:12,167 --> 00:16:17,500 about someone's facial expression and start reacting to it. 193 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,800 So we're gonna put one electrode right above your eyebrow... So how does it do that? 194 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:23,233 And the other right on your cheek. 195 00:16:23,333 --> 00:16:25,033 Here we go. Great... 196 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,000 I've invited a group of people to run an experiment. 197 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:37,067 I've wired them up to a machine that measures movements in their facial muscles. 198 00:16:37,167 --> 00:16:41,533 And I've asked them to look at photographs of faces. 199 00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:53,900 When participants are looking at a photograph with a smile or a frown, 200 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,633 we see this activity on the graph 201 00:16:55,733 --> 00:17:00,533 which indicates that their own facial muscles are moving. 202 00:17:00,633 --> 00:17:09,067 Why? Well, it turns out that they are automatically mirroring with their own faces 203 00:17:09,167 --> 00:17:11,567 the expressions that they're seeing. 204 00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:16,367 That was fun, right? The last one? 205 00:17:16,467 --> 00:17:18,367 - Yeah. - Yeah, it was a fun test. 206 00:17:18,467 --> 00:17:23,067 But what purpose does this mirroring serve? 207 00:17:23,167 --> 00:17:26,067 I've invited a second group of people. 208 00:17:26,167 --> 00:17:31,200 They're similar to the first group, except for one thing. 209 00:17:37,467 --> 00:17:41,233 This is the most lethal neurotoxin on the planet. 210 00:17:41,333 --> 00:17:43,500 If you were to ingest even a fraction of this, 211 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,233 your brain could no longer tell your muscles how to contract 212 00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:49,667 and you would die of total paralysis. 213 00:17:49,767 --> 00:17:51,500 So it seems unlikely that anyone 214 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,133 would pay to have this injected into themselves, but they do. 215 00:17:57,333 --> 00:18:02,367 This is known as botulinum toxin or Botox. 216 00:18:02,467 --> 00:18:07,667 If you put it into your forehead muscles, it paralyzes them to reduce wrinkling. 217 00:18:07,767 --> 00:18:12,233 But there's a less well known side-effect. 218 00:18:16,833 --> 00:18:21,033 When our participants with Botox went through the same tests, 219 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:23,767 their facial muscles responded less. 220 00:18:23,867 --> 00:18:25,600 No surprise there. 221 00:18:25,700 --> 00:18:29,233 But replicating an experiment out of Duke university, 222 00:18:29,333 --> 00:18:32,433 we had both groups look at facial expressions. 223 00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:36,333 And now they were asked to choose the word 224 00:18:36,433 --> 00:18:39,800 that best described the emotion they were seeing. 225 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,534 Panic. Panicked. Upset. 226 00:18:53,700 --> 00:19:00,333 On average, the Botox group was worse at identifying the emotions correctly. 227 00:19:00,433 --> 00:19:01,900 Skeptical? 228 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,600 It seems that the lack of feedback from their facial muscles 229 00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:10,200 impairs their ability to read other people. 230 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:13,700 The paralyzed faces of Botox users 231 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,700 not only makes it hard for us to tell what they're feeling, 232 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:23,633 those same frozen muscles make it hard for them to read us. 233 00:19:23,733 --> 00:19:26,467 And that tells us something. 234 00:19:26,567 --> 00:19:32,533 When I'm happy or sad, part of that feeling relies on the unconscious feedback 235 00:19:32,633 --> 00:19:34,167 from muscles in my face. 236 00:19:34,267 --> 00:19:39,300 And our social brains take advantage of that-- so when we're trying to understand 237 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,533 what someone else is feeling, we try on their facial expression. 238 00:19:46,633 --> 00:19:54,667 This automatic mirroring of expressions is just one way in which we understand others. 239 00:19:54,767 --> 00:20:00,333 The brain also has a deeper way-- one that's best explained at the movies. 240 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:13,567 One ticket, please. Thank you. 241 00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:20,200 When we go to the movie theater, we know full well that it's make-believe. 242 00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:26,967 The people on the screen are just acting. And yet we still react. 243 00:20:27,067 --> 00:20:31,867 We gasp and flinch and cry. Why do we fall for it? 244 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:41,200 To understand why we care about other people getting hurt, 245 00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:45,033 you need to understand what happens in your brain when you get hurt. 246 00:20:45,133 --> 00:20:49,167 So imagine that somebody were to stab your hand with a syringe needle. 247 00:20:49,267 --> 00:20:54,200 That activates a network of areas in your brain that we call the pain matrix. 248 00:20:56,233 --> 00:21:01,800 There's no single spot in the brain where pain is processed. 249 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:09,333 Instead, the perception of pain arises from several different areas networking together. 250 00:21:09,433 --> 00:21:15,800 Strangely enough, this pain matrix is at the heart of how we connect with others. 251 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,200 Now, when you watch someone else get stabbed, 252 00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:25,200 your pain matrix becomes activated. 253 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:28,833 Not the parts that tell you you've actually been touched, 254 00:21:28,933 --> 00:21:33,333 but the parts involved in the emotional experience of pain. 255 00:21:33,433 --> 00:21:36,200 In other words, watching someone else in pain 256 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:40,900 and being in pain use the same neural machinery. 257 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,500 And that's the basis of empathy. 258 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,633 To empathize with another person is to literally feel their pain. 259 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,167 You run a compelling simulation of what it would be like if you were in that situation. 260 00:22:06,267 --> 00:22:14,200 And our capacity to do this is why stories and movies and novels are so absorbing 261 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:17,133 and why they're so pervasive across human culture. 262 00:22:17,233 --> 00:22:21,933 Because whether it's about total strangers or made-up characters, 263 00:22:22,033 --> 00:22:26,600 you experience their agony and their ecstasy. 264 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:33,367 You fluidly become them and live their lives and stand in their vantage points. 265 00:22:34,833 --> 00:22:38,433 You can tell yourself that the stories aren't real, 266 00:22:38,533 --> 00:22:42,367 but some neurons deep in your brain can't tell the difference. 267 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,333 Our capacity to feel another person's pain is part of what makes us 268 00:22:57,433 --> 00:23:00,333 so good at taking other people's perspective-- 269 00:23:00,433 --> 00:23:04,167 to step out of our shoes and into their shoes, neurally speaking. 270 00:23:07,433 --> 00:23:10,467 We can't help but connect with others. 271 00:23:10,567 --> 00:23:17,100 We're hardwired to be extremely social creatures. And that raises a question. 272 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,667 What would happen if the brain were starved of human contact? 273 00:23:29,433 --> 00:23:32,967 In 2009, peace activist Sarah shourd 274 00:23:33,067 --> 00:23:35,533 and her two companions were hiking in the mountains 275 00:23:35,633 --> 00:23:40,033 of northern Iraq--an area that was at the time peaceful. 276 00:23:40,133 --> 00:23:45,200 But they accidentally strayed into Iran, and they were arrested. 277 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:50,333 They pulled us apart and threw us in separate cells and slammed the door. 278 00:23:50,433 --> 00:23:58,400 And, um, that was the beginning of-- of the next 410 days of my life in that cell. 279 00:24:04,967 --> 00:24:06,800 Well, in the early weeks and, really, months 280 00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:11,167 of solitary confinement, you're reduced to an animal-like state. 281 00:24:11,267 --> 00:24:14,467 I mean, you are an animal in a cage. 282 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,567 And the majority of your hours are pacing. 283 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:34,533 And the animal-like state sort of eventually transformed into a more plant-like state... 284 00:24:37,033 --> 00:24:42,633 When your mind starts to slow down and your thoughts become repetitive. 285 00:24:49,433 --> 00:24:51,333 Shourd, voice-over: Your brain turns on itself. 286 00:24:51,433 --> 00:24:57,733 And it becomes the-- the source of your worst pain and your worst torture. 287 00:25:04,967 --> 00:25:07,567 I would relive every detail of my life. 288 00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:12,033 And eventually, you run out of--of memories. 289 00:25:12,133 --> 00:25:16,533 And you've told them all to yourself so many times, and it doesn't take that long. 290 00:25:16,633 --> 00:25:21,800 Extreme social depravation causes deep psychological pain. 291 00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:26,067 Without interaction, the brain suffers. 292 00:25:27,333 --> 00:25:31,600 Solitary confinement is designed to eat away at 293 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:35,633 and really attack what essentially makes us human. 294 00:25:37,867 --> 00:25:45,600 Sarah's brain used the scant sensory information it had to construct a reality. 295 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:51,433 The sun would come in at a certain time of day at an angle through my window. 296 00:25:51,533 --> 00:25:56,333 And all of the little dust particles in my cell were illuminated by the sun. 297 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,000 I saw all of those particles of dust as being 298 00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:04,733 other human beings occupying the planet. 299 00:26:04,833 --> 00:26:06,500 And they were in the stream of life. 300 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,433 They were interacting. They were bouncing off one another. 301 00:26:09,533 --> 00:26:11,700 They were doing something collective. 302 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,100 And I saw myself as off in a corner, you know, 303 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,667 walled off by--by myself out of the stream of life. 304 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:35,167 In September 2010 after 410 days in solitary confinement, 305 00:26:35,267 --> 00:26:39,500 Sarah was finally released and allowed to rejoin the world. 306 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:46,233 But for a long time, she suffered from extreme post-traumatic stress. 307 00:26:49,833 --> 00:26:54,100 The philosopher Martin heidegger said we can't talk about being. 308 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,700 We can only talking about being in the world. 309 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,000 In other words, the world around you is a part of who you are. 310 00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:07,200 In a vacuum, you lose your sense of self. 311 00:27:10,433 --> 00:27:13,167 It's not easy for science to study people 312 00:27:13,267 --> 00:27:16,267 while they're experiencing solitary confinement, 313 00:27:16,367 --> 00:27:21,567 but a simple experiment designed by neuroscientist Naomi eisenberger can give us 314 00:27:21,667 --> 00:27:27,033 an insight into what's happening in the brain when we feel excluded. 315 00:27:29,267 --> 00:27:31,767 It's based on a game of catch. 316 00:27:33,567 --> 00:27:37,300 While volunteers played a computer game of catch, 317 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,767 eisenberger and her team scanned their brains. 318 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,300 The volunteers thought the other characters were controlled by other participants, 319 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,333 but, in fact, they were just part of the computer program. 320 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,767 At first, the other characters played nicely, 321 00:27:55,867 --> 00:27:59,867 but after a while, they'd cut the volunteer out of the game 322 00:27:59,967 --> 00:28:04,167 and simply play between themselves. 323 00:28:04,267 --> 00:28:10,367 She found that being left out of the game activated the pain matrix. 324 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:19,133 Not getting the ball might seem insignificant, but to the brain, 325 00:28:19,233 --> 00:28:23,533 social rejection is so meaningful that it hurts. 326 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,367 But that pain, in turn, is useful. 327 00:28:32,667 --> 00:28:45,000 It pushes us in the direction of bonding with others. We all seek out alliances. 328 00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:51,333 We join with friends, with family, with colleagues. 329 00:28:51,433 --> 00:28:54,200 It could be which team we support... 330 00:28:55,633 --> 00:29:01,033 What style we go for... What our hobbies are. 331 00:29:01,133 --> 00:29:05,000 It gives comfort to belong to a group. 332 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:11,433 And that gives us a critical clue into our success as a species. 333 00:29:11,533 --> 00:29:15,733 Survival of the fittest isn't just about individuals. 334 00:29:15,833 --> 00:29:22,500 It's also about groups. We're safer. We're more productive. We overcome challenges. 335 00:29:24,533 --> 00:29:28,400 The drive to work in groups has helped human populations thrive 336 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:33,500 across the planet and build entire civilizations. 337 00:29:37,533 --> 00:29:41,467 And yet there's a flipside to this drive to come together. 338 00:29:41,567 --> 00:29:46,100 Because for every "in" group, there are outsiders. 339 00:29:49,267 --> 00:29:53,200 And the consequences of that can be very dark. 340 00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,500 History is plagued with examples 341 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,533 of one group turning on another that was defenseless and posed no threat. 342 00:30:09,233 --> 00:30:10,967 If you were to look at my family tree, 343 00:30:11,067 --> 00:30:15,567 you would see that most of the branches end in the early 1940s. 344 00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:19,000 This is because my family is ethnically Jewish. 345 00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:25,433 That small social marker was enough to prompt Nazi genocide. 346 00:30:28,267 --> 00:30:30,133 Under normal circumstances, 347 00:30:30,233 --> 00:30:33,633 you wouldn't find it conscionable to go murder your neighbor. 348 00:30:33,733 --> 00:30:40,967 So what is it that allows hundreds or thousands of people to suddenly do exactly that? 349 00:30:41,067 --> 00:30:43,133 What is it about certain situations 350 00:30:43,233 --> 00:30:48,000 that short-circuits the normal social functioning of the brain? 351 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:58,533 While the Nazi holocaust was on an unprecedented scale, it wasn't unique. 352 00:30:58,633 --> 00:31:02,800 Genocide continued to occur all over the world. 353 00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:08,067 And within a generation, it returned to eastern Europe. 354 00:31:08,167 --> 00:31:11,300 This time, it was in yugoslavia. 355 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:26,467 The Bosnian war from 1992 to '95 saw atrocities on both sides. 356 00:31:26,567 --> 00:31:31,133 In one of the worst, more than 100,000 Bosnian muslims, 357 00:31:31,233 --> 00:31:33,967 known as Bosniaks, were slaughtered 358 00:31:34,067 --> 00:31:38,333 by serbians in actions known as ethnic cleansing. 359 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,567 One of the most horrible incidents happened here at srebrenica. 360 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:55,800 Over the course of just 10 days, 8,000 people were systematically killed. 361 00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:58,600 How does something like this happen? 362 00:32:00,233 --> 00:32:06,133 Here in 1995, thousands of Bosniaks took refuge inside this united nations compound, 363 00:32:06,233 --> 00:32:10,800 because this village was surrounded by siege forces. 364 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:18,233 But then on July 11th, the u.N. Commanders made the decision to expel all the refugees. 365 00:32:18,333 --> 00:32:20,567 And they delivered them right into the hands of their enemies, 366 00:32:20,667 --> 00:32:23,800 who were waiting just outside this gate. 367 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:30,967 Women were raped, and men were executed, and even children were killed. 368 00:32:31,067 --> 00:32:33,667 And this was just the beginning of what would be 369 00:32:33,767 --> 00:32:38,200 the largest genocide on European soil since the holocaust. 370 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:53,267 The Dutch were there. I mean, the world was there. You know, the u.N. 371 00:32:53,367 --> 00:32:56,733 The Serbs were there as perpetrators. Everything was mixed. 372 00:32:56,833 --> 00:32:59,733 The refuges were there, the babies were crying. 373 00:32:59,833 --> 00:33:04,400 I was there being protected with that u.N. I.D. Card 374 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:08,233 that said "u.N. Language assistant," whatever. 375 00:33:08,333 --> 00:33:15,800 Hasan nuhanovic's status as a u.N Translator made him part of a protected group. 376 00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:22,467 But his family members were marked out by their identity as muslims. 377 00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:26,033 At that very moment when my family was being sent out of the compound 378 00:33:26,133 --> 00:33:31,767 to actually die, I lost my-- I lost my mother, my brother, and my father. 379 00:33:31,867 --> 00:33:37,667 You know, like, you are in a situation when your family is being killed. 380 00:33:37,767 --> 00:33:44,100 And I was thinking, my god... I mean, why? 381 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,733 One of the most striking things is that the perpetrators weren't strangers. 382 00:33:49,833 --> 00:33:54,733 They were people with whom his family had previously shared a great deal. 383 00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:58,733 The continuation, you know, of... 384 00:33:58,833 --> 00:34:07,833 Of the killings, of torture, was perpetrated by our neighbors. You know? 385 00:34:07,933 --> 00:34:12,167 The very people we have been living with for decades. 386 00:34:13,667 --> 00:34:17,033 They were capable of killing their own school friends. 387 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,200 I remember they said they arrested a dentist who was a bosniak, 388 00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:25,167 the best dentist in the town. 389 00:34:27,067 --> 00:34:31,700 They tied him up from a light pole, like this in front of the post office. 390 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,133 He was hanging there like this. And they beat him with a metal bar. 391 00:34:37,233 --> 00:34:38,967 They broke his spine. 392 00:34:39,067 --> 00:34:45,267 And he was there dying for days while serb children went to school, 393 00:34:45,367 --> 00:34:49,433 walking by his body, you know? 394 00:34:51,267 --> 00:34:53,267 I mean, there are universal values. 395 00:34:53,367 --> 00:34:57,933 And these universal values are kind of very basic: 396 00:34:58,033 --> 00:35:07,067 Don't kill... April '92, this don't kill suddenly disappeared. 397 00:35:07,167 --> 00:35:12,000 It was like, "go and kill." It was, allowed to kill. 398 00:35:23,067 --> 00:35:25,967 This is where hasan's family is buried. 399 00:35:26,067 --> 00:35:30,267 And each year, there are new bodies that are found and identified, 400 00:35:30,367 --> 00:35:31,400 and they're brought here. 401 00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:34,633 Many of these graves are fresh. 402 00:35:36,833 --> 00:35:42,233 And across the human species, this is just one genocide of many. 403 00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:48,300 Genocides keep happening-- Rwanda, Darfur, nanking, Armenia. 404 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,100 And my interest is in understanding why. 405 00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:55,533 Traditionally we ask this question 406 00:35:55,633 --> 00:36:00,300 through the lens of history or economics or politics. 407 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,800 And those are all important vantage points. 408 00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:06,533 But I think for a complete picture, one more lens is needed. 409 00:36:06,633 --> 00:36:10,800 We need to understand genocide as a neural phenomenon. 410 00:36:16,867 --> 00:36:19,633 I've been researching this back in my laboratory. 411 00:36:19,733 --> 00:36:24,733 And here is my main question, when we interact with someone, 412 00:36:24,833 --> 00:36:30,300 does our brain function differ according to which group they are in? 413 00:36:31,933 --> 00:36:36,433 For every "in" group we belong to, there's at least one group that we don't. 414 00:36:36,533 --> 00:36:47,433 And that division can be based on anything-- race or gender or wealth or religion. 415 00:36:52,633 --> 00:36:56,500 We put 130 participants in this scanner. 416 00:36:57,833 --> 00:37:01,233 And here's what they saw-- six hands on the screen. 417 00:37:01,333 --> 00:37:03,500 And the computer randomly picks one of these. 418 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,233 And then that hand gets stabbed by a syringe needle. 419 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,367 Now, that activates the pain matrix, 420 00:37:13,467 --> 00:37:18,000 which is what comes on line when you're in pain or you see someone else in pain. 421 00:37:21,033 --> 00:37:25,500 Now, here's the trick-- we now added a label to each hand-- 422 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,100 Jewish, Christian, Muslim, hindu, atheist, scientologist. 423 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:36,600 Would they care as much when they see a member of their out group getting stabbed? 424 00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:49,233 So here's what we found: Here's a subject. 425 00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:52,167 And when he watched a member of his "in" group 426 00:37:52,267 --> 00:37:55,767 getting stabbed, there was a large neural response in this area of his brain. 427 00:37:55,867 --> 00:37:58,633 But when he watched a member of one of his "out" groups 428 00:37:58,733 --> 00:38:03,000 get stabbed, there was essentially a flat line. 429 00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:07,200 We scanned a range of volunteers. 430 00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:11,500 And there are individual differences, but the trend is clear. 431 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:17,933 A single word label is enough to change your brain's basic pre-conscious response 432 00:38:18,033 --> 00:38:22,500 to another person in pain-- in other words, how much you care about them. 433 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,667 Now, you might have opinions about religion and its historical divisiveness, 434 00:38:27,767 --> 00:38:33,367 but even atheists here care more about other atheists' hands getting stabbed 435 00:38:33,467 --> 00:38:35,100 than they do about other people. 436 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,800 So it's not really about religion. It's about which team you're on. 437 00:38:44,633 --> 00:38:49,567 This is just the first step in understanding how we get to this. 438 00:38:56,733 --> 00:39:01,100 To understand how groups of people can commit atrocities, 439 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,367 it can help to look at the behavior of individuals like psychopaths. 440 00:39:06,767 --> 00:39:11,367 Some of the most callous, inhumane crimes ever recorded 441 00:39:11,467 --> 00:39:14,300 have been committed by psychopaths. 442 00:39:16,467 --> 00:39:21,567 But what's different about their brains that allows them to act that way? 443 00:39:24,467 --> 00:39:31,367 There are networks in the medial prefrontal cortex that underlie social interaction. 444 00:39:31,467 --> 00:39:37,100 When we interact with other people, this area becomes active. 445 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,933 But in the brain of someone with extreme psychopathy, 446 00:39:41,033 --> 00:39:44,300 this area has a lot less activity. 447 00:39:45,533 --> 00:39:48,933 A psychopath doesn't care about you. 448 00:39:49,033 --> 00:39:53,533 He might be able to run a simulation of what you're going to do or how you might react, 449 00:39:53,633 --> 00:39:56,367 but when it comes to an emotional understanding 450 00:39:56,467 --> 00:40:00,367 of what it's like to be you, he doesn't get that. 451 00:40:00,467 --> 00:40:04,767 To him you're just an obstacle to be worked around or manipulated 452 00:40:04,867 --> 00:40:08,267 rather than a fellow human being. 453 00:40:08,367 --> 00:40:13,567 So what accounts for genocide? Is it driven by armies of psychopaths? 454 00:40:13,667 --> 00:40:17,033 Well, that can't be it because psychopaths only make up 455 00:40:17,133 --> 00:40:18,767 a small fraction of the population, 456 00:40:18,867 --> 00:40:22,800 but genocide typically engages a wider community. 457 00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:27,767 So here's the question: How do you get ordinary citizens on board? 458 00:40:34,033 --> 00:40:37,233 At the university of leiden in Holland, 459 00:40:37,333 --> 00:40:40,367 Dr. Lasana Harris has been conducting an experiment 460 00:40:40,467 --> 00:40:43,200 to understand a piece of this puzzle. 461 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,333 So now we're going to start the experiment. 462 00:40:57,433 --> 00:41:01,100 What you're going to see is a bunch of pictures of different people. 463 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,267 Your job is just to react naturally to those pictures. 464 00:41:04,367 --> 00:41:12,100 Lasana is looking at activity in the brain areas involved in human social interaction, 465 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,733 in particular the medial prefrontal cortex. 466 00:41:15,833 --> 00:41:18,867 This comes on line when we think about other people. 467 00:41:18,967 --> 00:41:24,100 It's less active when dealing with something inanimate, like a cup. 468 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,500 What lasana found is that this region has a similarly low response 469 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,000 when we deal with certain types of other people. 470 00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:42,800 What he sees now are stereotypical images of people from different social groups. 471 00:41:45,733 --> 00:41:49,300 What we see here is at this network of brain regions, 472 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,333 including medial prefrontal cortex, 473 00:41:52,433 --> 00:41:56,133 is less active when our participant looks at the homeless people. 474 00:41:56,233 --> 00:42:00,900 So what this pattern of activity suggests is a type of mental avoidance. 475 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,100 They are not thinking about the mind of the homeless person in the same way they thought 476 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,400 about the mind of the college students that they saw or the businesspeople. 477 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,400 So if, for instance, you imagine that interacting with a homeless person 478 00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:20,200 will be unpleasant, it will make you will feel bad. 479 00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:23,133 You may feel some demand to donate some of your money 480 00:42:23,233 --> 00:42:27,133 and all of these unpleasant pressures that come along with it. 481 00:42:27,233 --> 00:42:31,600 By shutting off those systems, you never experience those feelings. 482 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:39,333 To a brain that responds this way, homeless people are dehumanized. 483 00:42:39,433 --> 00:42:45,100 They're viewed more like objects. And that can enable us to not care. 484 00:42:48,567 --> 00:42:51,200 Of course if you don't properly diagnose 485 00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:54,333 this person as a human being, which is happening here, 486 00:42:54,433 --> 00:43:00,133 then the different moral rules we have that are reserved for human people may not apply. 487 00:43:03,933 --> 00:43:10,467 So under the right circumstances, our brain activity can look more like a psychopath's. 488 00:43:10,567 --> 00:43:14,700 But to understand how we can get to genocide, 489 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,767 we need to understand one more thing about group behavior. 490 00:43:19,867 --> 00:43:25,733 Genocide is only possible when dehumanization happens on a massive scale. 491 00:43:25,833 --> 00:43:30,733 Not just a few individuals, but whole sections of the population. 492 00:43:30,833 --> 00:43:36,167 We're talking about a group of people committing atrocities. 493 00:43:37,767 --> 00:43:41,900 And if all the members of that perpetrating group are complicit, 494 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,067 it's as if they've all somehow experienced the same reduction in brain activity 495 00:43:47,167 --> 00:43:49,700 when they think about their "out" group. 496 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,933 This can be understood and studied like a disease outbreak, 497 00:43:56,033 --> 00:44:01,800 a kind of group contagion-- one that's most often spread deliberately. 498 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,400 The perfect tool for this job is propaganda. 499 00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:13,467 It plugs right into neural networks, and it dials down the degree 500 00:44:13,567 --> 00:44:16,000 to which we care about other people. 501 00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:22,467 Just like all sites of genocide, that's what happened in the former yugoslavia. 502 00:44:22,567 --> 00:44:24,733 The people who went on to torture and kill 503 00:44:24,833 --> 00:44:29,500 their neighbors were bombarded with propaganda. 504 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,333 State-controlled broadcasters demonized 505 00:44:32,433 --> 00:44:36,233 the Bosnian muslims with distorted news stories. 506 00:44:36,333 --> 00:44:41,300 I read you--from the beginning that somebody is, helping muslims, and arming them. 507 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,233 They went so far as to claim that the muslims were feeding Serbian children 508 00:44:46,333 --> 00:44:48,533 to the lions at the zoo. 509 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,500 Across place and time, the language of propaganda changes very little. 510 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,533 It always plays the familiar tune of dehumanization: 511 00:45:00,633 --> 00:45:05,000 Make your enemy less than human, make them like an animal. 512 00:45:07,867 --> 00:45:10,100 Propaganda is a weapon. 513 00:45:12,767 --> 00:45:18,833 And over the course of human history, it's become an art and a science. 514 00:45:18,933 --> 00:45:22,767 And it's become ever more dangerous. 515 00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:32,500 In our connected age, any extremist group 516 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,467 can reach millions of people with a keystroke. 517 00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:40,467 The Internet is the perfect carrier for propaganda messages 518 00:45:40,567 --> 00:45:45,067 to reach the people most likely to act upon them-- young men. 519 00:45:48,733 --> 00:45:56,900 The political agendas around us actually manipulate the brain activity inside of us. 520 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:03,467 So is there any way to stop what's happened in the past from continuing into the future? 521 00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:10,467 One possible solution lies in a 1960s experiment 522 00:46:10,567 --> 00:46:15,000 that was conducted not in a science lab but a school. 523 00:46:17,767 --> 00:46:24,767 It was 1968, the day after the assassination of Martin Luther King. 524 00:46:29,233 --> 00:46:33,800 Is there anyone in this United States that we do not treat as our brothers? 525 00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:34,900 - Yeah. - Who? 526 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,467 - The black people. - The black people. Who else? 527 00:46:37,567 --> 00:46:41,200 Jane Elliott was a teacher in a small town in Iowa. 528 00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:45,100 And she wanted to show her class what prejudice really felt like. 529 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,633 How are black people treated? 530 00:46:46,733 --> 00:46:50,067 - They don't get anything in this world. - Why is that? 531 00:46:50,167 --> 00:46:52,100 Because they're a different color. 532 00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:57,967 These two men were in that class. 533 00:46:58,067 --> 00:47:00,567 This was Rex back then... 534 00:47:02,567 --> 00:47:04,700 And this was ray. 535 00:47:06,867 --> 00:47:09,933 How many in here have blue eyes? 536 00:47:10,033 --> 00:47:12,900 Ok. How many in here have brown eyes? 537 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,067 Jane says we're going to have this exercise. 538 00:47:16,167 --> 00:47:18,600 And she right away launches into the propaganda 539 00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:21,433 of blue eyes are better than brown eyes. 540 00:47:21,533 --> 00:47:26,033 Blue-eyed people are better than brown-eyed people. 541 00:47:27,467 --> 00:47:31,467 Ray and Rex both have blue eyes. 542 00:47:31,567 --> 00:47:37,200 You brown-eyed people are not to play with the blue-eyed people on the playground 543 00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:40,333 because you are not as good as blue-eyed people. 544 00:47:40,433 --> 00:47:44,367 The brown-eyeds were denied privileges given to the blue-eyeds, 545 00:47:44,467 --> 00:47:46,067 and they had to wear special collars. 546 00:47:46,167 --> 00:47:49,200 You'll begin to notice today that we spend a great deal of time 547 00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:51,533 waiting for brown-eyed people. 548 00:47:59,767 --> 00:48:05,133 Do you remember... What your own behavior was like when you were on top? 549 00:48:05,233 --> 00:48:10,167 - I was tremendously evil to my friends. - How so? 550 00:48:10,267 --> 00:48:16,167 I was going out of my way to pick on my brown-eyed friends 551 00:48:16,267 --> 00:48:19,600 for the sake of my own promotion. 552 00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:22,867 What did you do? 553 00:48:22,967 --> 00:48:30,300 I recall telling Mrs. Elliott, Jane, that she should keep the yardstick at hand 554 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,533 in case those brown-eyeds got out of control. 555 00:48:32,633 --> 00:48:36,367 - I don't see the yardstick. Do you? - It's down over there. 556 00:48:36,467 --> 00:48:39,300 Hey, miss Elliott, you better keep that on your desk. 557 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,500 Don't let the brown-eyed people get out of hand. 558 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,867 At that time, my hair was quite blond and my eyes were quite blue. 559 00:48:46,967 --> 00:48:50,033 And I was the perfect little Nazi. 560 00:48:50,133 --> 00:48:55,600 I looked for ways to be mean to my friends, 561 00:48:55,700 --> 00:49:01,367 who minutes or hours earlier had been very close to me. 562 00:49:03,233 --> 00:49:07,267 But the next day, there was a reversal of fortune. 563 00:49:07,367 --> 00:49:13,033 Yesterday I told you that brown-eyed people aren't as good as blue-eyed people. 564 00:49:13,133 --> 00:49:16,667 That wasn't true. I lied to you yesterday. 565 00:49:16,767 --> 00:49:25,167 Boy... The truth is that brown-eyed people are better than blue-eyed people. 566 00:49:25,267 --> 00:49:30,600 A person you trust stands before you and says, "I was wrong. 567 00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:36,633 Now here's the truth," takes your world and shatters it 568 00:49:36,733 --> 00:49:40,600 like you've never had your world shattered before. 569 00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:44,733 You blue-eyed people are not to play with the brown-eyed people. 570 00:49:44,833 --> 00:49:48,100 Blue-eyed people go to the back. The brown-eyed people come to the front. 571 00:49:55,267 --> 00:49:59,167 Tell me a little more about what it was like when you were in the down group. 572 00:49:59,267 --> 00:50:03,467 You have such a sense of loss-- of personality and self-- 573 00:50:03,567 --> 00:50:08,433 that it makes it almost impossible to function with what's going on in the room. 574 00:50:08,533 --> 00:50:13,200 Should the color of some other person's eyes have anything to do with how you treat them? 575 00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:15,200 - No, no. - All right. 576 00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:18,167 - Then should the color of their skin? - No. 577 00:50:18,267 --> 00:50:20,733 Should you judge people... No... 578 00:50:20,833 --> 00:50:24,367 - By the color... No... Of their skin? - No. 579 00:50:24,467 --> 00:50:27,267 If I were just gonna riff-- guess at it--it's that, 580 00:50:27,367 --> 00:50:29,900 one of the most important things we learn as humans is perspective taking. 581 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,267 And kids don't often get a really meaningful exercise in that. 582 00:50:35,367 --> 00:50:37,067 And when you're forced into understanding 583 00:50:37,167 --> 00:50:39,367 what it's like to stand in someone else's shoes, 584 00:50:39,467 --> 00:50:42,133 that opens up a lot of cognitive pathways for you. 585 00:50:42,233 --> 00:50:47,033 I remember saying something to my dad about a comment he made, saying, 586 00:50:47,133 --> 00:50:49,967 "no, that's not appropriate." 587 00:50:50,067 --> 00:50:53,300 And it did change within the family. 588 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,300 But you talk about a little kid making that statement, it's huge. 589 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,733 But it reaffirmed that you could do that-- you could begin to change. 590 00:51:10,167 --> 00:51:13,867 The brilliance of the blue eyes/brown eyes experiment is 591 00:51:13,967 --> 00:51:17,800 that the teacher, Jane Elliott, switched which group was on top. 592 00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:22,033 And that allowed the students to extract the larger lesson, 593 00:51:22,133 --> 00:51:25,167 which is that systems of rules can be arbitrary. 594 00:51:25,267 --> 00:51:29,567 They learned that the truths of the world are not fixed, 595 00:51:29,667 --> 00:51:31,867 and they're not even necessarily truths. 596 00:51:31,967 --> 00:51:33,700 And this is what empowered the children 597 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:39,733 as they grew to see through the smoke and mirrors of other people's political agendas 598 00:51:39,833 --> 00:51:41,900 and to form their own opinions-- 599 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,100 surely a skill that we should be teaching to all of our children. 600 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,900 Should the color of some other person's eyes have anything to do with how you treat them? 601 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,467 No. 602 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:59,300 When people are armed with an understanding of how propaganda works, 603 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,767 the power of propaganda is reduced. 604 00:52:02,867 --> 00:52:08,167 As we come to understand the deep importance of cooperation, 605 00:52:08,267 --> 00:52:13,067 we stand a chance not only of reducing dehumanization, 606 00:52:13,167 --> 00:52:15,733 but achieving our potential as a species. 607 00:52:19,333 --> 00:52:22,767 Genocide doesn't have to be the norm. 608 00:52:29,667 --> 00:52:37,500 Instead our fundamentally social nature can hold the key to our success as a species. 609 00:52:38,867 --> 00:52:44,300 Our future, our survival is intimately, permanently bound up 610 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,267 with that of the people around us. 611 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,567 Our social drive is at the root 612 00:52:52,667 --> 00:52:58,067 of extraordinary acts of bravery and generosity. 613 00:53:00,333 --> 00:53:03,967 Who you are has everything to do with who we are. 614 00:53:04,067 --> 00:53:06,867 Our brains are so fundamentally wired to interact 615 00:53:06,967 --> 00:53:11,100 that it's not always clear where each of us begins and ends. 616 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:23,567 Our species is more than just 7 billion individuals spread out across the planet. 617 00:53:23,667 --> 00:53:29,700 We're something more like a single vast super-organism. 618 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,233 Because what your friends know and love as you is 619 00:53:34,333 --> 00:53:42,133 really a neural network embedded in a far larger web of other neural networks. 620 00:53:44,833 --> 00:53:47,333 In this age of digital connection, 621 00:53:47,433 --> 00:53:51,567 we desperately need to understand the links between humans. 622 00:53:51,667 --> 00:53:54,467 If we want our civilizations to have a bright future, 623 00:53:54,567 --> 00:53:58,300 we'll need to understand how human brains interact-- 624 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,300 the dangers and the opportunities. 625 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,433 Because there's no avoiding the truth 626 00:54:02,533 --> 00:54:07,800 that's etched into our neural circuitry: We need each other. 59827

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