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{\an8}This programme contains
strong language.
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APPLAUSE
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BAND PLAYS
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Russian spies are treated as heroes.
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{\an8}You see Anna Chapman,
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{\an8}this huge sort of
Russian personality,
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that then goes on television.
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She was the crown jewel of
the Russian intelligence service.
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She was a very savvy individual.
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{\an8}She was a real threat.
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We'd been on Anna for 24/7.
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Our undercover agent met her
at a Starbucks
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down in Hanover Square,
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near her home in Lower Manhattan.
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That foot right there?
That's one of my guys.
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He had a concealed
video camera there.
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Just sitting there with
a cup of coffee,
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like anybody else in a Starbucks,
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like she's done to us several
times, just sitting there,
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minding her own business.
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But, you know, she was doing
nefarious intelligence work,
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and we're now turning
the tables on her.
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Russian President Dmitry Medvedev
is on his first trip to America...
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President Obama has welcomed
Russia's president to Washington.
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It's the start of
a new charm offensive.
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Good afternoon, everybody.
Please be seated.
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Dobry den.
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There was a conceit in a lot
of politicians, they thought,
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{\an8}if only they could bring
their magic to this relationship.
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{\an8}They could create a proper alliance
and an understanding.
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After many meetings
around the world,
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I am delighted to welcome
my friend and partner,
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President Medvedev,
to the White House.
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Obama had been elected president...
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...and tries to reset
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America's relations with Russia.
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Putin hands the presidency
over to Medvedev.
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Medvedev represented
kind of a new face.
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He had the ability to be able
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to communicate
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not only with presidents,
but with other leaders,
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and conveyed the impression that...
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...that Russia was entering
the 21st century.
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We have done a lot
to build confidence
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between our countries.
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And, to a certain extent,
we made our world safer.
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Russia obviously was a country
that had a lot of nuclear bombs.
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The United States had a lot
of nuclear bombs,
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even though we did not feel Russia
was the same kind of superpower
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it was when it was
the old Soviet Union.
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We just concluded
some excellent discussions.
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There was a lot of hope that
built on some of the past treaties
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that we had begun to have
with Russia,
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that we could break some new ground
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with regards to nuclear limitations.
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But there were a lot
of old hardliners in the CIA
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who kept saying to me...
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..."Don't hold your breath."
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Russia may appear
to be more friendly...
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...but they always urged me
to remember
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that Russia was still an enemy.
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Hurrah!
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Putin remains as Prime Minister.
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And he's basically
the puppet master.
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And Medvedev is a puppet.
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Putin and his associates,
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they'd been brought up
in the Cold War
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and steeped in it.
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The Cold War had
not completely gone away.
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The Russians were constantly trying
to find ways of keeping tabs on,
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particularly the
United States of America.
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Hurrah!
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CAR HORNS HONKING
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The Russians started
to recruit younger individuals.
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They could be students.
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They could be, in the case
of Anna Chapman,
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a young entrepreneur.
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This is somebody that they could
develop and train over time
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to provide intelligence back
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to the Russian Intelligence Service.
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We really didn't have
much knowledge,
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other than the fact that we knew
that she was the daughter of
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a Russian Intel officer.
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She's extrovert, outgoing.
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She was really, you know,
in a very short period of time,
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able to make a connection with
people, develop a relationship,
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and then, more importantly,
maintain that relationship.
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And if you're in this business,
that's what you want.
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And she had that in spades.
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But it wasn't just Anna Chapman.
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{\an8}It became clear
that this was a network.
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We uncovered the fact that there was
this elaborate, elaborate scheme
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of officers here operating in
the United States...
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...for a number of years,
if not decades...
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...trying to develop and steal
America's closest secrets.
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The person you might bump into
at an academic conference.
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The person you might bump into
who you think
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is your investment adviser.
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The person you might run into
at a children's, you know,
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soccer or football match...
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...who are in fact officers of
the Russian Intelligence Service.
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I can't tell you that.
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The beginning is something that
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the United States has never
spoken about - and consequently,
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I can't speak about it either.
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The thing they won't tell you is
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that the crucial figure
is Aleksandr Poteyev.
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The FBI often refer to him
as The Source.
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He is a Russian intelligence
officer and was a KGB man.
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He'd worked in
Russian special forces.
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He's based in Moscow,
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and he's recruited by the FBI
as their agent.
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It's a very rare event
that an officer from
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Russian Foreign
Intelligence defects,
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and he would have had knowledge of
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the most precious secrets
of Russian intelligence -
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which was the identity of
its illegal operatives
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working in Western countries.
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I mean, there are dozens and dozens,
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and dozens of Russian deep-cover
spies who are identified
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because of Aleksandr Poteyev.
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I committed
to resetting the relationship
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between our two nations.
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And in President Medvedev,
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I've found a solid
and reliable partner.
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At the same time Barack Obama
and his White House were engaged
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in discussions with Medvedev
and the Russians,
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there's this massive group
of deep-cover officers
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within the United States.
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When you look at a network
that large,
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always in the back
of everyone's mind was,
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"Well, if you have this many
that we know about,
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"what's out there
that we don't know?
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"And what are they doing,
and who are they,
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"and where are they,
and what are we missing?
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"And what might be causing
far greater damage to
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"the United States'
national security
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"that we simply just aren't
even aware of?"
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This is huge, you know?
It's much bigger than us.
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Illegals.
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This is the creme de la creme of
the Russian Intelligence Service.
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It is a programme that dates
back to the '40s.
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Their purpose was to establish
themselves here inside
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the United States
as legitimate US citizens.
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{\an8}You'd have them over for dinner.
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{\an8}Your kids go to the same schools.
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They're just like anybody else.
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But they've been highly trained
to be sleeper agents, if you will,
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here in the United States,
and collect information
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and feed it all back to Moscow.
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We had opened investigations
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to really start digging
into these people.
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And so I, along with the team,
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had to come up with
evidence to show that,
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beyond a reasonable doubt,
these were Russian agents here,
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deep cover Russian agents.
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This was an incredible operation.
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The code name for the entire case
was Ghost Stories.
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My first assignment on this case
was to work a couple.
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Their code names were
Dead Silence and Sweet Temper -
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who I learned were Richard Murphy
and Cynthia Murphy.
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When we first saw them, I'm like,
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"OK, yeah, just
normal-looking people,"
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like me and you.
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They lived in an apartment
in New Jersey.
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They had two daughters here
in the United States,
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and they were a typical,
you know, American family.
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Our team did a covert entry into
the Murphys' residence.
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They spent a couple hours going
through the apartment,
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specifically drawers, closets.
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In the case of Richard Murphy,
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he was OCD.
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Very, like, obsessive compulsive
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about things being in
the right place.
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And, as luck would have it,
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all of the tradecraft that he needed
to be a Russian illegal here
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was in a nice box in his closet.
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All the spy paraphernalia was there.
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A covert communications system
that they use to communicate
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back and forth to
their handlers in Russia.
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Also invisible ink.
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This is not something that
a normal person is going to have.
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That was really, you know,
proof beyond a reasonable doubt
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that they are Russian spies.
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We started to find these types
of indicators across the US,
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These small clues and missteps.
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We had Richard Murphy
and Cynthia in Montclair.
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{\an8}Donald Heathfield and
Tracey Lee Ann Foley in Boston.
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{\an8}Michael Zottoli and his wife,
Patricia Mills,
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and then, Mikhail Semenko
in the Washington, DC area.
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And then, you had Juan Lazaro
and Vicky Pelaez...
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...and Anna Chapman in New York.
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{\an8}Through their own hard work,
Anna Chapman and the Illegals
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are making a lot of headway into
gaining access to information
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that would be of interest
to the Russians.
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Cynthia Murphy,
she was a financial planner,
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advising some high-net-worth
individuals, but also individuals
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close in and around Hillary Clinton.
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When you look at Zottoli,
he presented himself as involved
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in banking issues around
communications.
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When you look at Heathfield
and the company he founded,
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he certainly had some success
not only in developing contacts
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within the US government,
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but also somebody who had some
relationship and interaction with
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the US nuclear weapons programme.
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My first business was in London.
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Anna became very good at networking.
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I really know what they look for.
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She had many friends who were men.
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And she was able to use
her sex appeal to, you know,
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get within the circles
that she needed to.
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So, she definitely worked
that angle.
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She was, in fact, quite literally
in bed with, you know,
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some of the top, you know,
Wall Street financial people,
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people who had influence in
political circles in,
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you know, city planning and finance.
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We would follow her to different
locations, and clearly,
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it was the who's who of Manhattan.
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We needed to arrest these folks.
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If we faltered in any way
to alert them,
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it would be game over.
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No-one knows they're here.
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We didn't want to be
the ones to mess this up.
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The FBI briefers come over
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{\an8}and sit down in my office.
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My reaction to the information
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that had been presented to me
about Ghost Stories...
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...was, in many ways, a wake-up call.
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All right.
Thank you very much, everybody.
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Spasibo.
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On one side, we've got the
president meeting with Medvedev.
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And on the other side,
we got ten Russian spies
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that are prepared to cut
our guts out.
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That conflict had to be presented
at the highest levels.
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Joe Biden was Vice President.
He was in the room.
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Hillary Clinton
was Secretary of State.
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Tom Donilon was
National Security Adviser.
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First reaction from
the National Security Adviser
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and the Vice President was,
"Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
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"We've got - the president's
meeting with Medvedev.
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"If suddenly, we're arresting
a bunch of Russian spies,
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"you're going to basically torpedo
the efforts of the president
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"to try to work out
some kind of agreement."
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They said, "No, no, no,
we can't go ahead with the arrests
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"until we've completed the
relationship with Medvedev."
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I was very concerned that,
if we waited a few days,
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that we could lose the opportunity.
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That was critical towards stopping
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all of these Soviet spies from
leaving the country.
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I called Tom Donilon back into
the room, and I said,
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"Tom, I want you to think
about the headlines
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"in the Washington Post that say,
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"'President fails
to arrest Russian spies.'
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"That headline could be
very damaging."
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You could see that he was worried.
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And what we agreed on was
that we would go ahead
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and put the FBI in place,
be prepared to make the arrests -
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but that those arrests would not
take place until Medvedev was
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on a plane and out of
our United States airspace.
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{\an8}INDISTINCT CHATTER
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Presidents Obama and Medvedev
bonded over hamburgers
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and looked to press the reset
button on US-Russian relations
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after a meeting at the White House.
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Medvedev knows the vast
amount of effort that
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the Russian Intelligence Services
are putting into clandestinely
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trying to steal American secrets.
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But Obama knows full well about
what Russia is doing,
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including this network of Illegals.
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So, while they're having
a cheeseburger together,
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unbeknown to Medvedev,
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the arrests were already in play.
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It wasn't just going out to
a townhouse in Boston,
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to Donald Heathfield
and Tracey Lee Ann Foley.
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It was the Murphys in New Jersey.
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Mikhail Semenko,
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Michael Zottoli and Patricia Mills,
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in the Washington, DC area.
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You had Juan Lazaro and
Vicky Pelaez,
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and Anna Chapman in New York -
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all of which had to be coordinated
at the same moment.
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At the same time that
this was happening, The Source,
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the core of their knowledge about
this Illegals programme,
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was getting jumpy.
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Aleksandr Poteyev had done
ten years as a spy
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within Russian Intelligence.
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He was worried
the Russians were onto him,
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that his own side was suspicious
about there potentially being
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a leak from the programme.
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And he told the Americans
he wanted out.
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Alexander Petrov says goodbye
to his colleagues
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at Russian Foreign Intelligence
headquarters, heads home,
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and then, gets on a train
to Belarus,
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sends a message to his wife,
telling her he's not coming back -
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because at this point, he knows
he's either getting caught
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or he's getting out.
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He goes from Belarus, crosses
the border into western Ukraine,
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using false identity papers,
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a name and a passport supplied
by the CIA.
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And then, from there, he goes
from Ukraine to Germany.
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And then, from Germany,
he's flown to the United States.
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In the case of the Illegals,
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we have ten years' worth
of investigation that clearly shows
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that they are Russian spies -
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the covert communication system,
the messages back and forth.
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{\an8}But when it comes to Anna Chapman,
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{\an8}we don't have that corpus
of evidence.
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We needed Anna to acknowledge
the relationship that she had
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with the Russian
Intelligence Service
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to be able to arrest her.
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We concocted a false flag,
in order to be able to do this.
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A sting.
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SIREN BLARES
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We had surveillance set up
outside of the Starbucks,
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and then, inside the Starbucks,
as well.
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Our undercover agent then meets her
in a Starbucks cafe...
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...saying just pleasantries with her,
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and has a conversation with her.
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She, without prompting,
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then takes out
this operational laptop
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that we've been tracking,
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and then, proceeds to hand it
to our undercover agent...
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...explaining the difficulties
that she's been having getting
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messages back to her handlers.
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We think, "This is fantastic,"
right?
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"This is everything
that we need," right?
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What normal person would just
hand over a laptop?
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So, he gladly takes the laptop,
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and then, you know,
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he proceeds to tell her
that we need her assistance.
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After Anna Chapman meets
our undercover agent,
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she then proceeds to go to
a store in Brooklyn.
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Our surveillance followed her.
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So, she buys this burner phone
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and the surveillance is thinking,
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"Who is she calling?"
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We've never seen her act this way.
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Why won't she use her own phone?
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We're waiting,
as per the ops order,
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for Medvedev to clear
North American airspace.
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And she's buying
a burner phone to what?
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You know, what the heck is going on?
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Did...? Are we blown?
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Anna discarded the receipt.
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We retrieved it.
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And on there is details of
the transaction that she just made,
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and the address that
she had given for herself
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was 99 Fake Street.
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So, we're quickly able to get
coverage on that phone, as well,
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and also, who she's potentially
calling, texting.
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She called her father and tells him,
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"I met this guy, and he thinks
I gotta do this,
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"and, you know,
I gave him my laptop."
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She was freaked out about that.
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So, her father, for some reason,
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tells her to go to the police.
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And she goes to a police station
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right here in downtown Manhattan.
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We sent one of our
senior agents down there.
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And Anna says, you know,
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"I had this interaction
with an individual.
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"I felt threatened, which is why
I gave them the laptop."
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My only guess is that
they were trying to essentially
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lay the groundwork for an alibi,
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in the event that she, you know,
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did face some legal trouble
or was arrested, right?
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Our senior agent had a conversation
with the PD there and said,
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"Look, we need to keep Anna here
as long as we can.
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"Keep her occupied."
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While she thought she was talking
to the police department,
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it was a couple of FBI agents
that were, you know,
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posing as detectives.
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They said, "Oh, my God, we can't
believe that this happened to you.
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"Let us show you
a line-up of people,
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"and let's see if maybe
you can identify them."
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And so they spent another like hour
or two literally just showing her
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pictures of people, random people.
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When it came to the actual arrest,
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my team all met near
the residence of
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Donald Heathfield
and Tracey Lee Ann Foley.
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My team was on arrest day
at the Murphys'.
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It was eerily quiet,
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and it was a really humid afternoon.
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We were across the street outside,
waiting for direction.
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People were excited.
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There's always a level of
sort of adrenaline.
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Could the Cold War hotline between
the White House and the Kremlin
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finally become a thing of the past?
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Finally, Medvedev was wheels up and
out of North American airspace.
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SIRENS WAIL
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It's happening fast and furious.
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And what you don't want to do
is make sure that
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you drop any of these balls,
that something goes wrong.
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Here we are, raid jackets on,
weapons and arrest warrant,
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search warrant in hand.
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As we approached the house,
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I see Don and Ann on the side,
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with the two agents who
are arresting them.
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Richard Murphy came out first.
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Orange T-shirt.
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Then Cynthia came out, blue top.
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The Zottolis...
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...and Mikhail Semenko were
arrested in Washington, DC.
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Juan Lazaro and Vicky Pelaez
arrested in New York.
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And then, Anna Chapman arrested
in the police precinct.
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This is the first time I'd met Anna.
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She very quickly,
you know, lawyered up.
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In fact, you know, the person
that she was dating and staying with
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at the time was a lawyer.
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00:25:47,421 --> 00:25:49,220
...Want to begin with breaking news.
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There is a wave of arrests
in several cities,
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as an alleged
Russian Intelligence ring
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{\an8}carrying out deep-cover assignments
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{\an8}in the United States is now busted.
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That word coming from
the Justice Department.
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I was in Malta at the time,
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{\an8}and I was on my way back from
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{\an8}a nightclub at 4am in the morning.
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We were listening to the radio while
we were driving to an afterparty,
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and there was
a breaking news broadcast.
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Raids on Sunday in New York,
Boston, New Jersey, and Virginia...
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They said that Anna Chapman
was the Russian spy.
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I was shocked.
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And the next day, outside
my apartment on Grosvenor Square,
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there were a dozen news channels,
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a dozen reporters, maybe more.
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I couldn't believe that was true.
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I wasn't aware of her doing
any spying in London.
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She was just a socialiser.
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The British man who was married
to the suspected Russian spy,
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Anna Chapman, said tonight that she
told him today that she's innocent.
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Tonight, 30-year-old Alex Chapman
arrived in central London,
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stepping into the middle of
an international spy saga
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worthy of the Cold War.
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Alex Chapman is being advised
by the PR consultant Max Clifford,
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who joins me now.
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What's his reaction been?
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00:27:14,581 --> 00:27:16,621
Well, obviously,
it's been total shock.
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00:27:18,821 --> 00:27:20,620
They became more and more distant.
439
00:27:20,621 --> 00:27:22,980
She was becoming more
and more secretive,
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and she was going off
to various events where
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there were a lot of rich
and powerful people on her own.
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But now this has all come out.
obviously, he's starting to think,
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"Well, maybe that's what
was going on."
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HE CHUCKLES
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You know, we see this, you know,
all this news come up about Adam,
446
00:27:41,461 --> 00:27:43,740
and we're like,
"Oh, my God, it's Anya."
447
00:27:43,741 --> 00:27:46,940
And the general consensus was,
"Oh, it had to be Alex, didn't it?
448
00:27:46,941 --> 00:27:48,220
"You know, it had to be Alex,"
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because that was the kind of
character he was, you know,
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the sort of young, naive,
enthusiastic, gregarious, open...
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All those aspects could
potentially make him a target.
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So, I've got this random call
from my best friend saying,
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"You're not going to believe me,
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"but I've just had MI5 phone me up,
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00:28:13,541 --> 00:28:16,101
"and they want to meet me.
They're looking for you."
456
00:28:17,261 --> 00:28:19,260
There's something about
Anya Chapman.
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00:28:19,261 --> 00:28:21,940
Erm, I was questioning, I said,
"What are you talking about?
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"I haven't done anything.
What's going on?"
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00:28:24,501 --> 00:28:28,460
Er, he said, "Well,
put the news on, you'll see."
460
00:28:28,461 --> 00:28:32,260
Erm, so put the phone down,
put the news on...
461
00:28:32,261 --> 00:28:34,581
...and suddenly,
Anya's all over the news.
462
00:28:35,821 --> 00:28:38,980
Ten people have been arrested,
accused of being Russian spies.
463
00:28:38,981 --> 00:28:41,220
Anna Chapman, a 28-year-old,
is among them.
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Anna Chapman... ..Anna Chapman...
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...Anna Chapman...
...Anna Chapman... ..Anna Chapman...
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I was, like, a bit surprised.
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00:28:47,541 --> 00:28:50,620
I'm like, "Well, what's going
on with her? I know her."
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00:28:50,621 --> 00:28:53,940
Suddenly, I'm faced with my friend
telling me I've got MI5 looking
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for me, and my ex-girlfriend
is being accused
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of being a Russian spy.
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HE CHUCKLES
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So, I-I'm suddenly in shock mode.
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You know, we've got ten spies,
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we're going to have ten trials.
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And this is...
it's going to be complicated.
476
00:29:20,541 --> 00:29:24,660
So, we set up this conversation
with Mikhail Fradkov.
477
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Mikhail Fradkov was the head of
the Intelligence Agency in Russia,
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and was my counterpart.
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And I said, "Mikhail,
480
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"we just arrested
ten of your people."
481
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And, interestingly enough,
I think the initial reaction
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among my CIA officers was that
he's going to deny it.
483
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He's not going to admit it.
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00:29:47,541 --> 00:29:50,180
Strangely enough, Fradkov said,
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"Yes, they're our people."
486
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I said, "We're thinking about the
possibility of establishing a trade
487
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"where we can return all ten of
your people, plus their families,
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"to Russia in exchange for getting
back some people that you have."
489
00:30:07,341 --> 00:30:08,980
And I said,
"What do you think about that?"
490
00:30:08,981 --> 00:30:12,421
He said...
"Er, I have to talk to Putin."
491
00:30:14,941 --> 00:30:18,020
Fradkov always felt he had
to talk to Putin.
492
00:30:18,021 --> 00:30:22,420
And that told me a lot about
Putin's continuing influence
493
00:30:22,421 --> 00:30:24,301
on what was happening in Russia.
494
00:30:25,701 --> 00:30:27,460
I got a call back from him.
495
00:30:27,461 --> 00:30:31,100
He said, "We're willing to go ahead
with that kind of trade."
496
00:30:31,101 --> 00:30:34,860
CIA chief Leon Panetta
personally worked out the deal
497
00:30:34,861 --> 00:30:37,660
with Russia's top spy master.
498
00:30:37,661 --> 00:30:42,980
The sense I got from Fradkov is,
"That's the business we're in.
499
00:30:42,981 --> 00:30:45,620
"That's the business we're in.
500
00:30:45,621 --> 00:30:50,380
"That we spy on you,
you spy on us.
501
00:30:50,381 --> 00:30:53,020
"And every once in a while,
502
00:30:53,021 --> 00:30:54,661
"we get the spies."
503
00:31:00,141 --> 00:31:03,221
We agreed that the exchange
would take place in Vienna.
504
00:31:05,741 --> 00:31:09,380
The only glimpse that we've had of
the spies at the centre of this saga
505
00:31:09,381 --> 00:31:12,500
was as they boarded a chartered
jet yesterday evening.
506
00:31:12,501 --> 00:31:14,820
Their destination, Vienna.
507
00:31:14,821 --> 00:31:18,821
And at that point,
they would deliver four people.
508
00:31:23,301 --> 00:31:27,300
We would deliver all ten families
to the same airport,
509
00:31:27,301 --> 00:31:29,740
and that there would be an exchange.
510
00:31:29,741 --> 00:31:30,981
It was...
511
00:31:32,341 --> 00:31:34,261
It was right out of a spy movie.
512
00:31:47,781 --> 00:31:50,140
'Vienna airport. Two planes arrive -
513
00:31:50,141 --> 00:31:52,741
'one from Moscow,
and one from New York.'
514
00:31:54,061 --> 00:31:55,900
It was this remarkable scene.
515
00:31:55,901 --> 00:31:59,901
And then, you see an old-fashioned
Cold War spy swap.
516
00:32:01,341 --> 00:32:04,540
'The moment when ten Russian agents
captured in America
517
00:32:04,541 --> 00:32:06,740
'are swapped for four
Russian prisoners
518
00:32:06,741 --> 00:32:08,621
'accused of spying for the West.'
519
00:32:10,661 --> 00:32:12,100
I remember these grainy pictures,
520
00:32:12,101 --> 00:32:14,580
and you could see ten going
one way back to Russia,
521
00:32:14,581 --> 00:32:16,620
and four coming out of Russia.
522
00:32:16,621 --> 00:32:19,501
Who were they? That was the question
we all wanted to know.
523
00:32:22,701 --> 00:32:26,180
'This afternoon, the plane carrying
four men released from Russia
524
00:32:26,181 --> 00:32:29,100
'arrived at RAF Brize Norton,
in Oxfordshire.'
525
00:32:29,101 --> 00:32:30,580
And we soon got the names.
526
00:32:30,581 --> 00:32:34,100
They were Gennadiy Vasilenko
and Alexander Zaporozhsky,
527
00:32:34,101 --> 00:32:35,500
And Igor Sutyagin,
528
00:32:35,501 --> 00:32:37,940
who'd been accused of spying
for the Americans,
529
00:32:37,941 --> 00:32:39,861
but then, also Sergei Skripal.
530
00:32:41,181 --> 00:32:44,660
'Sergei Skripal, a colonel
in military intelligence
531
00:32:44,661 --> 00:32:47,140
'accused of spying for
Britain's MI6,
532
00:32:47,141 --> 00:32:48,861
'also likely to remain here.'
533
00:32:50,061 --> 00:32:52,820
Sergei Skripal. I don't think
any of us really knew him
534
00:32:52,821 --> 00:32:54,660
or knew much about his case
535
00:32:54,661 --> 00:32:57,580
until he was on that plane
and coming out.
536
00:32:57,581 --> 00:33:00,540
'One of the ten, Anna Chapman,
has a British passport,
537
00:33:00,541 --> 00:33:02,900
'thanks to a former marriage.'
538
00:33:02,901 --> 00:33:04,580
We were all asking MI5,
539
00:33:04,581 --> 00:33:08,341
"Had she stolen secrets here
while she was based in London?"
540
00:33:09,501 --> 00:33:11,940
Officials from here at
the Home Office have said
541
00:33:11,941 --> 00:33:15,100
they're urgently considering
whether the Home Secretary
542
00:33:15,101 --> 00:33:16,700
should use special powers
543
00:33:16,701 --> 00:33:19,740
to deprive Anna Chapman of
her British citizenship
544
00:33:19,741 --> 00:33:21,781
and stop her coming to this country.
545
00:33:27,181 --> 00:33:30,220
A carefully-choreographed swap
brings a quick end to
546
00:33:30,221 --> 00:33:32,220
a scandal that threatened to derail
547
00:33:32,221 --> 00:33:34,981
recently-improving
US-Russia relations.
548
00:33:37,701 --> 00:33:39,660
Russian Prime Minister
Vladimir Putin
549
00:33:39,661 --> 00:33:44,700
says he's met with ten spies who
were recently kicked out of the US.
550
00:33:44,701 --> 00:33:48,500
Upon their return, the Illegals were
treated as heroes, were feted -
551
00:33:48,501 --> 00:33:52,020
certainly Vladimir Putin
personally met them.
552
00:33:52,021 --> 00:33:54,740
Putin wouldn't say when
or where the meeting happened,
553
00:33:54,741 --> 00:33:57,460
but he says they talked about life.
554
00:33:57,461 --> 00:34:00,780
He also told reporters
they sang a patriotic tune
555
00:34:00,781 --> 00:34:03,380
called What Motherland Begins With,
556
00:34:03,381 --> 00:34:07,580
a song apparently popular
in Soviet intelligence circles.
557
00:34:07,581 --> 00:34:09,900
Putin, a former KGB colonel,
558
00:34:09,901 --> 00:34:12,820
says the agents had
a very difficult fate,
559
00:34:12,821 --> 00:34:17,380
but he promised them bright lives
and decent jobs in Russia.
560
00:34:17,381 --> 00:34:19,620
Rather than presenting this
as some sort of failure,
561
00:34:19,621 --> 00:34:26,460
the best spin would be to laud them
and to talk about what a great set
562
00:34:26,461 --> 00:34:30,460
of achievements they had,
563
00:34:30,461 --> 00:34:33,820
you know, gone through as part
of this long line of the excellence
564
00:34:33,821 --> 00:34:35,181
of the Illegals programme.
565
00:34:39,381 --> 00:34:41,260
Don Heathfield -
Andrei Bezrukov -
566
00:34:41,261 --> 00:34:43,180
goes on to get a very lucrative job
567
00:34:43,181 --> 00:34:45,541
within a government energy industry.
568
00:34:48,661 --> 00:34:52,100
And then, Anna Chapman
sort of model,
569
00:34:52,101 --> 00:34:53,501
goes on television.
570
00:34:56,021 --> 00:34:58,301
Of course, everybody
remembers Anna Chapman.
571
00:34:59,661 --> 00:35:03,220
She was very attractive
with this red hair...
572
00:35:03,221 --> 00:35:06,821
{\an8}...and Russian propaganda started
to use it immediately.
573
00:35:10,141 --> 00:35:12,660
I always joke, she ended up
better than I did.
574
00:35:12,661 --> 00:35:15,060
It sounds like she's doing
just fine. Right?
575
00:35:15,061 --> 00:35:17,021
ANNA LAUGHS
APPLAUSE
576
00:35:26,461 --> 00:35:30,300
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
577
00:35:30,301 --> 00:35:32,621
BELLS RING
578
00:35:36,541 --> 00:35:39,141
Putin was very angry about the swap.
579
00:35:43,341 --> 00:35:45,381
Never really accepted
or bought into it.
580
00:35:47,301 --> 00:35:50,620
He is a man with a vengeance
when it comes to betrayal
581
00:35:50,621 --> 00:35:52,101
by intelligence officers.
582
00:35:55,941 --> 00:35:57,940
So, when he came back into office,
583
00:35:57,941 --> 00:36:00,180
it was open season again on
some of the people
584
00:36:00,181 --> 00:36:01,301
that had been swapped.
585
00:36:26,341 --> 00:36:27,660
PHONE LINE RINGS
586
00:36:27,661 --> 00:36:32,140
Suddenly, I had a call
to somebody's phone
587
00:36:32,141 --> 00:36:34,900
from a friend of mine
who called me saying,
588
00:36:34,901 --> 00:36:38,100
"Marina, do you know the news?"
I said, "No, what happened?"
589
00:36:38,101 --> 00:36:40,421
"Boris Berezovsky."
I said, "What?"
590
00:36:42,381 --> 00:36:46,500
The 67-year-old tycoon was found
dead on the bathroom floor
591
00:36:46,501 --> 00:36:48,581
in his ex-wife's home in Ascot.
592
00:36:51,861 --> 00:36:53,901
"Died? How?"
593
00:36:55,061 --> 00:36:56,101
"Nobody knows."
594
00:37:00,661 --> 00:37:02,500
My name is Richard Holmes,
595
00:37:02,501 --> 00:37:05,180
and I'm an investigative journalist.
596
00:37:05,181 --> 00:37:07,140
BuzzFeed set up investigations team,
597
00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:09,020
and I was part of it.
598
00:37:09,021 --> 00:37:15,140
I spent a month in a closed-off
office on the outskirts of London,
599
00:37:15,141 --> 00:37:18,340
scanning 250 boxes of documents,
600
00:37:18,341 --> 00:37:23,060
page by page,
into the inner workings of...
601
00:37:23,061 --> 00:37:25,060
...this fixer in London.
602
00:37:25,061 --> 00:37:28,060
Scott Young, who had been working
for some of the most
603
00:37:28,061 --> 00:37:30,340
notorious Russian oligarchs,
604
00:37:30,341 --> 00:37:32,380
including Boris Berezovsky.
605
00:37:32,381 --> 00:37:34,340
Having read through
all this material
606
00:37:34,341 --> 00:37:36,220
and going through all these boxes,
607
00:37:36,221 --> 00:37:40,300
I formulated a memo to the editor
basically saying,
608
00:37:40,301 --> 00:37:42,981
"I think Russia was linked
to the death of Scott Young."
609
00:37:44,421 --> 00:37:48,260
And I thought, "What are you doing?
Are you completely nuts?
610
00:37:48,261 --> 00:37:49,660
"Have you lost your mind?"
611
00:37:49,661 --> 00:37:52,100
We slowly realised
that we hadn't lost our mind,
612
00:37:52,101 --> 00:37:55,300
and there was a string
of deaths in London...
613
00:37:55,301 --> 00:37:58,380
...some friends and associates of
Boris Berezovsky that just
614
00:37:58,381 --> 00:38:00,860
had been completely ignored.
615
00:38:00,861 --> 00:38:02,740
British police say they have
616
00:38:02,741 --> 00:38:06,220
no evidence of Russian involvement
in these cases,
617
00:38:06,221 --> 00:38:10,341
but many of these deaths happened
in suspicious circumstances.
618
00:38:11,501 --> 00:38:15,981
In every case, there seemed to be
a connection going back to Russia.
619
00:38:19,541 --> 00:38:20,940
There are 14 in total.
620
00:38:20,941 --> 00:38:22,980
I want to get the names
and the dates right,
621
00:38:22,981 --> 00:38:25,820
so I'm going to read them out
from my from my notebook.
622
00:38:25,821 --> 00:38:27,900
We had Scott Young in 2014,
623
00:38:27,901 --> 00:38:29,940
Boris Berezovsky's main fixer.
624
00:38:29,941 --> 00:38:33,260
...Was found impaled on the railings
at this penthouse apartment.
625
00:38:33,261 --> 00:38:36,460
He's one of half a dozen
apparently healthy British men,
626
00:38:36,461 --> 00:38:40,140
associates of rich Russian exiles,
to die here.
627
00:38:40,141 --> 00:38:42,501
Yuri Gabulov in 2007.
628
00:38:44,061 --> 00:38:48,580
Badri Patarkatsishvili in 2008,
who died of a heart attack.
629
00:38:48,581 --> 00:38:50,860
He died at his mansion
in Surrey last night.
630
00:38:50,861 --> 00:38:53,821
Stephen Moss in 2003,
who also died of a heart attack.
631
00:38:55,061 --> 00:38:58,261
Steven Curtis in 2004,
who died in a helicopter crash.
632
00:38:59,501 --> 00:39:03,060
He said, "If anything happens to me,
it won't be an accident."
633
00:39:03,061 --> 00:39:06,261
Paul Cassell, 2010, who jumped
in front of a tube train.
634
00:39:09,021 --> 00:39:10,740
Johnny Elichaoff in 2014,
635
00:39:10,741 --> 00:39:13,261
who rolled off the top of
a London shopping centre.
636
00:39:14,781 --> 00:39:17,020
Igor Ponomarev in 2006,
637
00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:19,700
who collapsed after
an evening at the opera.
638
00:39:19,701 --> 00:39:22,860
Gareth Williams,
a code-breaker at GCHQ
639
00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:26,500
who was found folded up inside
a North Face bag in his bath.
640
00:39:26,501 --> 00:39:29,580
...Unexplained DNA had been found
on the locked holdall...
641
00:39:29,581 --> 00:39:32,620
Daniel McGrory, who died of
a heart attack in 2007.
642
00:39:32,621 --> 00:39:37,101
Robbie Curtis, who died by jumping
in front of a tube in 2012.
643
00:39:38,581 --> 00:39:40,980
Alexander Perepilichnyy,
who collapsed in Surrey.
644
00:39:40,981 --> 00:39:43,220
...Died suddenly jogging...
645
00:39:43,221 --> 00:39:47,020
Matthew Puncher,
a British nuclear scientist,
646
00:39:47,021 --> 00:39:49,140
instrumental in finding the polonium
647
00:39:49,141 --> 00:39:51,221
which poisoned
Alexander Litvinenko...
648
00:39:52,421 --> 00:39:56,021
...who in 2016 stabbed himself
to death with two knives.
649
00:39:59,101 --> 00:40:03,940
And then, Boris Berezovsky in 2013,
who was found hanged.
650
00:40:03,941 --> 00:40:07,340
This evening, his house in Ascot
was cordoned off after one of
651
00:40:07,341 --> 00:40:09,780
his security team found his body,
652
00:40:09,781 --> 00:40:14,021
with unconfirmed reports suggesting
he may have taken his own life.
653
00:40:17,581 --> 00:40:20,780
When I heard he committed suicide,
654
00:40:20,781 --> 00:40:22,420
I couldn't believe.
655
00:40:22,421 --> 00:40:24,461
And I still don't believe it.
656
00:40:31,181 --> 00:40:32,701
I think he was killed.
657
00:40:52,061 --> 00:40:55,781
Some of these individuals were
surveilled by Russian Intelligence.
658
00:40:57,221 --> 00:41:00,580
There's no suggestion that
Anna Chapman was involved
659
00:41:00,581 --> 00:41:02,300
in Boris' death,
660
00:41:02,301 --> 00:41:05,380
or the deaths of his associates.
661
00:41:05,381 --> 00:41:08,341
She wasn't in the UK at the time
that they happened.
662
00:41:11,541 --> 00:41:16,221
But the way in which she moved up
the hierarchy in British society...
663
00:41:18,101 --> 00:41:21,180
...is very suspicious to me.
664
00:41:21,181 --> 00:41:25,740
She arrives in the UK
and meets this guy in Brighton,
665
00:41:25,741 --> 00:41:28,980
who she quickly ditches
for a public school boy
666
00:41:28,981 --> 00:41:31,060
and marries after five months.
667
00:41:31,061 --> 00:41:34,940
She then quickly becomes estranged
to him and starts hanging out
668
00:41:34,941 --> 00:41:36,660
with these Russian friends -
669
00:41:36,661 --> 00:41:38,740
Boris Berezovsky included.
670
00:41:38,741 --> 00:41:41,100
I don't think that
happens by coincidence,
671
00:41:41,101 --> 00:41:46,100
and I don't think someone using
their charm and looks
672
00:41:46,101 --> 00:41:47,940
in the way that Anna Chapman did
673
00:41:47,941 --> 00:41:50,221
does that without
an underlying cause.
674
00:42:00,501 --> 00:42:02,940
{\an8}Maybe her dad did say to her,
675
00:42:02,941 --> 00:42:04,340
{\an8}"We need you to go to England
676
00:42:04,341 --> 00:42:06,620
"to, you know,
connect with certain people."
677
00:42:06,621 --> 00:42:09,821
I-I can't say any of that
would be true.
678
00:42:11,501 --> 00:42:13,620
If somebody like Anya can be a spy,
679
00:42:13,621 --> 00:42:17,220
it shows me that, really,
anybody could be a spy.
680
00:42:17,221 --> 00:42:20,100
Erm, it's really as simple as that.
681
00:42:20,101 --> 00:42:21,261
You just don't know.
682
00:42:28,901 --> 00:42:33,221
BAND PLAYS NATIONAL ANTHEM OF
THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
683
00:42:37,541 --> 00:42:39,100
Putin is very personal.
684
00:42:39,101 --> 00:42:41,420
{\an8}You know, he will look at the world
685
00:42:41,421 --> 00:42:43,061
{\an8}through personal ties...
686
00:42:44,101 --> 00:42:46,061
...whether he can trust
somebody or not.
687
00:42:48,141 --> 00:42:50,220
We're dealing with
a completely different creature.
688
00:42:50,221 --> 00:42:53,141
It's much more like the leader
of an organised crime group.
689
00:43:04,461 --> 00:43:06,620
Does the long arm of the Kremlin
690
00:43:06,621 --> 00:43:08,620
reach all the way from Moscow
691
00:43:08,621 --> 00:43:10,580
to Salisbury, in Wiltshire?
692
00:43:10,581 --> 00:43:14,300
Sergei Skripal and his daughter,
Yulia, were found collapsed
693
00:43:14,301 --> 00:43:17,260
on a park bench in their
hometown of Salisbury,
694
00:43:17,261 --> 00:43:18,660
in southern England.
695
00:43:18,661 --> 00:43:20,660
After being released from jail,
696
00:43:20,661 --> 00:43:23,380
Skripal had spent
the last eight years
697
00:43:23,381 --> 00:43:24,981
living quietly in Salisbury.
698
00:43:26,061 --> 00:43:29,700
Sergei had come to the UK in 2010
699
00:43:29,701 --> 00:43:32,980
as part of the notorious
spy swap with the US -
700
00:43:32,981 --> 00:43:35,300
with Anna Chapman going one way,
701
00:43:35,301 --> 00:43:37,701
and Skripal coming the other way.
702
00:43:38,981 --> 00:43:41,300
Skripal was the most
significant one.
703
00:43:41,301 --> 00:43:44,260
He'd been a Russian Intelligence
officer who had worked
704
00:43:44,261 --> 00:43:46,300
for the British, for us.
705
00:43:46,301 --> 00:43:50,380
The idea that someone who had
been involved in a spy swap
706
00:43:50,381 --> 00:43:53,940
and had effectively retired from
service would be attacked
707
00:43:53,941 --> 00:43:55,981
in that way was quite shocking.
708
00:43:59,221 --> 00:44:04,060
It's a good lesson in...
the lengths in Putin's memory,
709
00:44:04,061 --> 00:44:07,180
and especially when it comes
to traitors,
710
00:44:07,181 --> 00:44:09,901
the lengths he'll go
to send his message.
711
00:44:15,661 --> 00:44:18,581
{\an8}Blueberry Hill
712
00:44:21,861 --> 00:44:26,500
{\an8}♪ I found my thrill
713
00:44:26,501 --> 00:44:29,101
{\an8}♪ On Blueberry Hill
714
00:44:31,461 --> 00:44:34,140
{\an8}♪ On Blueberry Hill... ♪
715
00:44:34,141 --> 00:44:35,781
{\an8}MUSIC ECHOES
716
00:44:37,021 --> 00:44:38,540
{\an8}Neither we nor, above all,
717
00:44:38,541 --> 00:44:40,060
{\an8}the Russian political class,
718
00:44:40,061 --> 00:44:41,780
the people very close to Putin
719
00:44:41,781 --> 00:44:46,220
thought that he was going
to turn into this dictatorial,
720
00:44:46,221 --> 00:44:50,501
ruthless, psychopathic killer
that he has become.
721
00:44:51,661 --> 00:44:54,381
And how gloriously wrong
they and we were.
722
00:44:58,301 --> 00:45:03,180
Our societies, our institutions
have never been more at threat
723
00:45:03,181 --> 00:45:05,180
from Putin's spies.
724
00:45:05,181 --> 00:45:08,780
Sending sanctioned tankers
through our seas,
725
00:45:08,781 --> 00:45:11,420
flying drones around
our military bases,
726
00:45:11,421 --> 00:45:14,780
having low-skilled criminals
set fire to businesses.
727
00:45:14,781 --> 00:45:19,540
{\an8}♪ But all of those vows
you made... ♪
728
00:45:19,541 --> 00:45:21,500
{\an8}He's not going to stop.
729
00:45:21,501 --> 00:45:24,140
He's not going to stop spying.
730
00:45:24,141 --> 00:45:27,341
{\an8}He's not going to stop
being an aggressor.
731
00:45:28,381 --> 00:45:30,781
He's not going to stop being KGB.
732
00:45:32,901 --> 00:45:35,261
{\an8}♪ For you were my thrill
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{\an8}♪ On Blueberry Hill... ♪
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