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Man:
Lyle! Get up, Lyle!
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Get up.
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Man: Facebook Live,
he found her passed out, man.
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He found her passed out
on her face... (indistinct).
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I don't know.
But he might be dead, bro.
Hold on, bro.
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(woman speaking indistinctly)
Yeah, hold on, fool.
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He might--
might be dead, jack.
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Alan Spanos:
We doctors were wrong
in thinking
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that opioids can't be used
long-term.
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They can be and they should be.
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We used to think
they'd stop working
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or that patients
would become addicts
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or that they'd be sedated
into inactivity.
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Spanos:
We now find that
these medicines are much safer,
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much more powerful,
much more versatile
than we used to think,
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and we feel that
they should be used
much more liberally
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for people with all sorts
of chronic pain.
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Man:
Some patients may be afraid
of taking opioids
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because they're perceived
as too strong, or addictive...
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but that is far
from actual fact.
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Less than one percent
of patients taking opioids
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actually become addicted.
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Man:
She's making noises.
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She's making noises. Yo!
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Woman:
She's breathing.
She's-- Come on, baby.
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Man: Breathing?
Woman: Yeah. She's...
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She's trying to--
Come on, girl.
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Come on,
Jerry, wake up.
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Jerry, wake up!
Look at me.
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Look at me, Jerry.
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Officer: Jerry, look at me!
Come on!
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Man: Wake up, girl!
There you are!
Man 2: Woo-hoo!
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Stay with us.
Hang on. Stay with us.
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High five,
you're alive.
You're fine. You're okay.
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Man:
You all right?
You with us?
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You doing okay?
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Hey, stay with me, man.
Stay with me.
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Man: Can you wake up?
Woman: Are you gonna be okay?
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Is she okay?
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Man: Yo, she's overdosing.
Like, what the fuck, man?
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Man: Wake up!
Man 2: Hey!
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Man:
Wake up, wake up!
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Wake up, boy!
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Get water,
get water, get water!
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Man 2:
Pour water on her first.
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Man: Want him too?
Man 2: Fuck it, man, 'cause...
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Man: I know.
Man 2: Anything
could've happened.
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(child crying)
Mommy... Mommy!
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Man: Oh my God.
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Mommy! (crying)
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Mommy!
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Newsman:
Law enforcement says
they have never seen abuse
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of a prescription drug
mushroom out of control
so fast.
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Newsman 2:
These drugs all belong
to a family of drugs
called opioids.
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Woman:
And prescription painkillers
lead to heroin.
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Newswoman:
It is a narcotic,
closely related
to heroin and morphine
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with the same potential
for addiction.
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Stephany Gay:
If somebody'd told me
six years ago
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that I was going
to be a heroin addict,
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I would have thought
that they were crazy.
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Never in a million years.
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I didn't hang out
with bad kids.
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I didn't get in trouble.
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I-I just would have
never ever thought
that it could happen to me.
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When I was about 16,
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I started getting
kidney stones,
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and they would give me
pain medication for it,
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because that's pretty much
all that they could do.
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Kathy Kelly:
The X-rays would
show the kidney stones.
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There was no faking it, nothing.
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I mean,
here is a child, 15, 16...
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that was about the age
she started getting 'em,
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um, and she's getting 'em
every-- few times a year.
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Stephany:
They gave me
a shot of Dilaudid,
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which is a very
strong painkiller.
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And then I remember
them sending me home,
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with a prescription
of Oxycontin
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and a prescription
of Vicodin.
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Kelly:
And I remember
thinking at that time,
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"Wow, those are kind of
high-powered medications
for such a young person,"
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but I trusted the doctors.
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Stephany:
In the beginning,
I would just take
my Vicodin
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as prescribed
when I was in pain,
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but it, like, gradually
got worse over time.
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It numbed my feelings
and made me feel like...
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okay about everything.
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You know, "I'm fine.
I'm-- I'm good."
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You know, I would take
an extra one here or there,
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and then, if I ran out,
I would just pretend
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like I didn't know
what was wrong with me,
so that I could get more.
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You know, faking pain
to go to the hospital
to get painkillers.
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I mean, it would be
anything from Oxycontin,
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to Vicodin to Norcos.
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Then it went from taking
the prescribed dose
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of like one every six hours
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to taking, like,
20 Norcos a day.
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I'm going through
a month prescription
in two days.
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And I called my mom crying,
and I was like, "I don't know
what's wrong with me."
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"Mom... I can't
stop taking these,
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'cause when I stop taking them,
I don't feel good."
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I said, "Well, we need
to talk to your doctor."
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And he wrote me
another prescription
for Percocets,
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which was stronger
than the Norcos
that I had been taking.
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My sister, Ashley...
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she was the closest person
to me in this whole world.
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We did everything together.
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I would get painkillers,
and I'd, like, you know,
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when I started
getting bad with them
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she was curious,
because what I did, she did.
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So, to go to sleep,
she'd be like,
"Let me get one of your pills.
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Let me get one of your
painkillers to go to sleep.
Let me get a Vicodin."
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And I'd give her one,
you know,
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and she'd be like,
"Oh my gosh, I love this."
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Kelly:
They would share 'em
with each other.
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"Oh, I have a headache."
"Oh, well, here, you can
take one of my pills."
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Um... menstrual cramps.
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One sister sharing medication
with another sister.
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Stephany:
We'd never been exposed
to drugs like that.
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We didn't know what
could happen, you know?
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We just thought, like,
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"Well, our doctor started
giving us the, you know,
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these painkillers,
so it can't be that bad."
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Well, then he cut
her off on 'em,
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and then she didn't feel good.
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Her friends say,
"Oh, well, here,
I'll give you-- Take mine."
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But they became expensive
to buy privately from friends,
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and the doctors would not
give 'em to her anymore.
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So, this friend
gave her a little bag,
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and said, "Just sniff this.
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"It'll do the same
thing as the pills do,
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"only thing, you don't
need to take five pills.
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"Just take this
little bag, sniff it,
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and you'll feel better."
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And it worked!
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She took it and it worked.
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I remember thinking, like,
"Wow. This is the best
feeling in the world."
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It was really, like...
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I had, like,
not a care in the world.
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It made me feel like
I could do anything.
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I felt like Super Woman.
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It's a lot cheaper than...
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buying 15 Norcos a day
at five dollars apiece.
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You know,
"Here's a ten-dollar
bag of heroin,
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and it'll last you
three days."
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I didn't have anxiety
or I didn't feel depressed.
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I felt happy, I felt warm.
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I felt like it loved me,
and I loved it back.
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It felt like I was in, like,
a relationship with it,
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like, I felt like I had
a relationship with heroin.
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It was just the best
feeling in the world.
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I snorted heroin
for about a year.
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Me and Ashley both did.
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Kelly:
They did not know
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the scope of the addiction
that they were up against,
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like a tidal wave.
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You know, you're
standing on a beach,
and you've got this...
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50-foot wave coming at you.
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And I remember
Ashley saying,
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"It's not like we're
sticking needles
in our arms, Mom."
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Stephany:
"That's for real junkies.
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"You know,
I'll never do that.
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"I'll never touch a needle.
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That's disgusting,
that's gross."
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And somewhere...
along that time,
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somebody introduced
the needle to them.
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Stephany:
You only have to do
a little tiny bit,
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and you get, you know,
ten times as high,
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and it lasts
ten times as long,
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but then, it, like, gets
so out of control so fast.
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If I was lucky, you know,
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it would only take me
ten minutes to hit a vein,
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and then I could go
lay back down.
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I had no veins left.
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I mean, in my neck,
and the side of my face,
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palms of my hands,
my fingers,
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I mean, like, on my chest,
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and I'd be covered in blood.
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I would just sleep all day,
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till I woke up
from being sick again,
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and then I'd have to go
through it all over again.
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When I started using...
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I had my own three-bedroom,
two-story house.
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I was a stay-at-home Mom
with my two-year-old daughter.
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Me and my daughter's father,
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we each had our own new cars.
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We had a pool
in our backyard,
we had two dogs.
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I had, like,
the perfect life.
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By the time I started
injecting heroin,
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I had lost my house.
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We'd sold both of our cars,
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and I lost custody
of my daughter.
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Kelly:
I remember Ashley saying,
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"I don't want
to do this anymore."
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It was no longer a party,
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and she was a slave to it.
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Stephany:
She got into a fight
with her fiancé,
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and she went and got a motel.
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I was clean at the time,
and I...
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I didn't think
that she was using.
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Kelly:
Ashley had been
in treatment.
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She had stayed in
just long enough
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to get through
the withdrawal period,
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and she felt fine,
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and then she walked out
of treatment early.
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That's when it can take 'em
because they think
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that they can use
what they were using before.
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They say,
"Well, I did this much,"
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um, "so I can handle it,"
and they can't.
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Their body is back
to what it was.
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And when I would
tell my daughter,
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"I'm so worried
about you, Ashley,"
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she would say,
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"Mom, I'm-- I'm too young,
and pretty to die.
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I'll be fine.
I'm gonna beat this."
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Stephany:
I think that
maybe she thought
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she could just do it
one more time
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and get that
really good high,
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and then not
do it anymore.
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And it's like... that one time,
you never know.
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Stephany:
Her fiancé called me,
and he was at the motel,
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and she wasn't
answering her phone.
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Stephany:
He called me and he was,
like, hysterical.
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Stephany:
He started banging
on the doors.
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He called 911,
and told the operator,
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"My girlfriend
is a heroin addict.
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"She's not
answering her phone.
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"I know she's in trouble.
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Please come to this hotel
and help me."
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Stephany:
I remember where I was at.
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I was at the
Taco Bell drive thru.
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I remember seeing
the police station's number
come up on my phone.
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And I remember
picking up the phone,
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and it being a man's voice.
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He was like,
"I'm sorry for your loss."
237
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And I was just like...
238
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I was like,
"What are you talking about?"
239
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And, um, he's like,
240
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"I need you to come
into the police station."
241
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And I just-- I knew.
242
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And...
243
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It was like my whole
world just, like, stopped.
244
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It was the worst nightmare
that anybody could have.
245
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I miss her every day.
246
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From morning till night,
it's an all-day thing.
247
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Stephany:
I was suicidal
when I lost my sister.
248
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I would just do
massive amounts,
249
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$200 worth of drugs,
250
00:13:15,041 --> 00:13:17,458
in an hour, in a sitting.
251
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Just praying, like,
252
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"Please don't
let me wake up.
253
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I don't want
to live anymore."
254
00:13:27,125 --> 00:13:29,125
Stephany:
She was like a second
mom to Audrey.
255
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She acted like Audrey
was her daughter.
256
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You know, she would--
257
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She would take over
when I would get stressed or...
258
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Kelly:
You two were inseparable.
259
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Stephany:
I can never imagine
going back to...
260
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living like I was.
261
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I could never imagine
going back to...
262
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sticking myself with needles,
263
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15 times a day
for hours at a time.
264
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I've been clean for
long enough to where...
265
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it scares me,
the thought of using,
266
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because I know
one time could kill me.
267
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This is a crucial time--
268
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now that you,
you have clean time.
269
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She had that,
that clean time,
270
00:14:10,250 --> 00:14:12,083
and then she used...
271
00:14:12,083 --> 00:14:13,792
and I feel like you're...
272
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you're right there,
and it's so scary.
273
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Anytime I get a call
in the middle of the night,
274
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I-I get that gut feeling.
275
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Everything tightens up.
276
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I couldn't imagine...
277
00:14:27,625 --> 00:14:31,417
putting you through
losing another... child.
278
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Britt Doyle:
That picture...
279
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was taken when I was,
I think, six years old.
280
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I sort of remember that day,
like a little bit,
281
00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:53,375
but I remember that
that photo was...
282
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in her room always,
'cause she said it was
her favorite photo of us,
283
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and I really like it too.
(giggles)
284
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This cross...
285
00:16:04,208 --> 00:16:07,875
she gave to me when
my parents split up,
286
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because I told--
287
00:16:09,166 --> 00:16:12,333
I was really sad one day,
and I was like...
288
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"Mom, I'm not gonna
be able to see you anymore.
289
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I'm not gonna live with you,"
290
00:16:16,709 --> 00:16:18,125
and she was like,
291
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"I have the same necklace.
292
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"I'm gonna give you this one,
293
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"and if you wear it,
then we're gonna--
294
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"just know that
we're together,
295
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and just know that
I'm thinking of you."
296
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"Dear Preston,
297
00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:32,542
"I've enjoyed every minute
of our time in Tahoe.
298
00:16:32,542 --> 00:16:33,917
"You're this
amazing young man
299
00:16:33,917 --> 00:16:35,458
that makes me
proud every day,
300
00:16:35,458 --> 00:16:36,792
"and more every year.
301
00:16:36,792 --> 00:16:39,542
"There are incredible things
that await you in your future.
302
00:16:39,542 --> 00:16:41,583
"You're a success in life...
303
00:16:41,583 --> 00:16:44,917
"and always will be,
because you have
that special spark
304
00:16:44,917 --> 00:16:46,792
"to do and enjoy
life to its fullest.
305
00:16:46,792 --> 00:16:48,458
I love you. XO, Mom."
306
00:16:49,583 --> 00:16:51,750
And I read that...
307
00:16:51,750 --> 00:16:55,417
literally any time I have
any sort of problem in my life,
308
00:16:55,417 --> 00:16:59,250
because there's just
the fact that she wrote that.
309
00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:01,083
It just...
I don't know,
310
00:17:01,083 --> 00:17:04,542
just shows what kind
of person I had by my side
for all those years.
311
00:17:04,542 --> 00:17:06,750
Here's a screenshot
of a text she sent me.
312
00:17:18,291 --> 00:17:21,458
And, uh, she did not
mean to send that.
313
00:17:21,458 --> 00:17:22,750
She, like...
314
00:17:22,750 --> 00:17:25,792
was just probably
high out of her mind.
315
00:17:30,375 --> 00:17:32,291
(laughing)
That mean picture.
316
00:17:32,291 --> 00:17:34,250
I know, I'm sorry.
This one's funny.
317
00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:35,709
Wait.
Britt: Whoa!
318
00:17:35,709 --> 00:17:37,959
Britt:
Get off! I'm ticklish,
and I don't like being tickled.
319
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Wynne:
I wasn't tickling you.
(Britt giggles)
320
00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:42,125
I was trying to make a wish
on your tummy, you big biddy.
321
00:17:51,333 --> 00:17:53,750
Ow! Not happening!
322
00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:56,667
Britt:
And she wipes
her nose with my hair.
323
00:17:59,750 --> 00:18:02,500
Doyle:
Each one of our three
kids were C-sections,
324
00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:07,875
but the third one was
a particularly hard pregnancy,
325
00:18:07,875 --> 00:18:11,917
so when Wynne got
out of the hospital,
326
00:18:11,917 --> 00:18:14,542
they gave her a lot of...
327
00:18:14,542 --> 00:18:16,291
uh, prescriptions,
I mean, in a row.
328
00:18:16,291 --> 00:18:18,583
I had no idea
329
00:18:18,583 --> 00:18:20,583
that she'd been
given Oxycontin,
330
00:18:20,583 --> 00:18:24,875
or Vicodin or any
of the opiates that
we all know about now.
331
00:18:24,875 --> 00:18:27,917
We had no idea that
there were any dangers.
332
00:18:27,917 --> 00:18:32,792
About a month and a half
after the baby was born,
333
00:18:32,792 --> 00:18:35,417
Wynne was starting
not to get out of bed.
334
00:18:35,417 --> 00:18:37,834
And that's when
I started finding
335
00:18:37,834 --> 00:18:40,125
the pill bottles
around the house.
336
00:18:40,125 --> 00:18:42,375
All of a sudden, now
there's pills all the time,
337
00:18:42,375 --> 00:18:44,583
and there's more
and more doctor visits,
338
00:18:44,583 --> 00:18:46,834
and there's more and more
trips to the pharmacy,
339
00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:50,583
and she's getting less and less
interested in anything.
340
00:18:50,583 --> 00:18:52,208
She was hiding 'em,
341
00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:54,542
and she was getting 'em
from multiple doctors.
342
00:18:54,542 --> 00:18:58,083
Different doctors
that started showing up
on pill bottles.
343
00:18:58,083 --> 00:19:00,208
Doctors were just
throwing pills at her.
344
00:19:01,709 --> 00:19:03,291
And by the end of the year,
345
00:19:03,291 --> 00:19:07,542
you know, she just was
a totally different person.
346
00:19:07,542 --> 00:19:08,709
Completely different.
347
00:19:08,709 --> 00:19:11,166
It was like Jekyll and Hyde.
348
00:19:14,959 --> 00:19:16,750
When we were dating,
349
00:19:16,750 --> 00:19:20,709
I had never thought
about any kind of addiction,
350
00:19:20,709 --> 00:19:22,583
or alcohol, I mean, anything.
351
00:19:22,583 --> 00:19:25,041
We went out
a few times a week.
352
00:19:25,041 --> 00:19:28,041
We'd go to restaurants
and drink wine.
353
00:19:28,041 --> 00:19:29,917
I mean, there was nothing.
354
00:19:29,917 --> 00:19:32,750
I mean, I never saw anything.
355
00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:35,417
She was driven,
and fun to be around,
356
00:19:35,417 --> 00:19:37,333
and it felt right.
357
00:19:37,333 --> 00:19:40,208
We had a couple of kids,
she was a great mom.
358
00:19:40,208 --> 00:19:42,041
We were going on vacations.
359
00:19:42,041 --> 00:19:43,750
We were visiting with family.
360
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:47,333
We had friends over
all the time.
We'd have dinner parties.
361
00:19:47,333 --> 00:19:48,792
She was raised really well.
362
00:19:48,792 --> 00:19:51,000
She was, like, a track star,
363
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,083
cross-country,
the cheerleader,
everyone loved her.
364
00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:56,291
I just always looked up
to her when I was little,
365
00:19:56,291 --> 00:19:59,417
and being like,
"That is the most beautiful
woman, like, ever."
366
00:19:59,417 --> 00:20:02,583
And I'd wear
all of her clothes,
all of her jewelery,
367
00:20:02,583 --> 00:20:04,083
I would do makeup with her
368
00:20:04,083 --> 00:20:07,250
ever since I was--
I could walk, I feel like.
(chuckles)
369
00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:11,667
Doyle:
Christmas morning of 2000,
370
00:20:11,667 --> 00:20:16,041
about five or six months
after the baby was born,
371
00:20:16,041 --> 00:20:18,792
I woke her up, and it
had been a couple of days
372
00:20:18,792 --> 00:20:21,250
since she'd been up,
373
00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:23,458
and, uh, I got
the kids out of bed,
374
00:20:23,458 --> 00:20:27,125
and, you know, she didn't even
realize it was Christmas.
375
00:20:27,125 --> 00:20:29,792
I asked her if
she would consider
376
00:20:29,792 --> 00:20:31,834
going to a treatment facility,
377
00:20:31,834 --> 00:20:36,125
and I had already talked
to Betty Ford Clinic
down in Palm Springs.
378
00:20:36,125 --> 00:20:40,625
She stayed for three days
and then went missing.
379
00:20:40,625 --> 00:20:43,583
I went down
and tried to find her.
380
00:20:43,583 --> 00:20:46,291
She'd checked
into a motel, and...
381
00:20:46,291 --> 00:20:48,125
she was passed out.
382
00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:53,291
I had just no idea
what was going on.
383
00:20:54,959 --> 00:20:58,709
She went to a second
rehab facility,
384
00:20:58,709 --> 00:21:02,917
and I figured, since I could
afford it at the time,
385
00:21:02,917 --> 00:21:05,959
maybe this place would
be better 'cause it was
three times as expensive.
386
00:21:05,959 --> 00:21:08,709
When she checked out
28 days later,
387
00:21:08,709 --> 00:21:11,291
she had a whole
bunch of new pills...
388
00:21:11,291 --> 00:21:14,000
and it happened all over again.
389
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,667
She would go around
to different doctors,
390
00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:19,875
telling them
that she had pain.
391
00:21:19,875 --> 00:21:23,125
You know, she'd do
something to injure herself.
392
00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:26,750
I watched her slam her hand
in the car door one time
393
00:21:26,750 --> 00:21:28,875
just so that she could go
to the emergency room,
394
00:21:28,875 --> 00:21:32,166
and the doctors would
always give her something,
395
00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:34,375
Vicodin or Oxy
or something.
396
00:21:34,375 --> 00:21:35,959
She shattered
both her wrists,
397
00:21:35,959 --> 00:21:37,333
and she had...
398
00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:40,291
um, this-- I don't
know how to...
399
00:21:40,291 --> 00:21:42,291
she had like a cast
on both of 'em,
400
00:21:42,291 --> 00:21:44,542
and as soon as they
were all healed up again,
401
00:21:44,542 --> 00:21:46,542
she did something
that shattered it again.
402
00:21:46,542 --> 00:21:49,625
Repeatedly, like, the cycle
was over, and over,
403
00:21:49,625 --> 00:21:51,291
where she'd hurt herself,
404
00:21:51,291 --> 00:21:54,291
and then get medication,
and then she'd go off,
and leave.
405
00:21:54,291 --> 00:21:56,667
My dad always told me
it was "cooking school."
406
00:21:56,667 --> 00:21:58,917
Once we got older,
we started to realize
that, like,
407
00:21:58,917 --> 00:22:01,792
she is going to rehab
right now, but...
408
00:22:01,792 --> 00:22:03,959
It's not--
...it's not gonna--
it's not gonna work.
409
00:22:03,959 --> 00:22:05,625
It got to the point
where it was so common,
410
00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:07,959
I was like, "Maybe
she was really like that."
411
00:22:07,959 --> 00:22:09,625
But then I could tell
when she was clean,
412
00:22:09,625 --> 00:22:13,542
how healthy and just
amazing she looked,
413
00:22:13,542 --> 00:22:17,083
but when she was high,
it was like...
414
00:22:17,083 --> 00:22:19,250
it was like
she was sleepwalking,
415
00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:22,458
like, she wasn't
herself whatsoever.
416
00:22:22,458 --> 00:22:24,500
Just, like, her eyes
were different,
417
00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:26,083
her speech was different,
418
00:22:26,083 --> 00:22:29,917
the way she walked,
everything about her
was just really off.
419
00:22:29,917 --> 00:22:32,500
Preston: When she was clean,
she was an awesome human being,
420
00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:33,917
and just the best mother,
421
00:22:33,917 --> 00:22:35,917
and I'd trust her with
my life when she was sober,
422
00:22:35,917 --> 00:22:40,500
but I had to do things that
most kids wouldn't have to.
423
00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:42,125
It almost felt like
I was the parent.
424
00:22:42,125 --> 00:22:43,542
It's like the roles switched,
425
00:22:43,542 --> 00:22:46,333
where I'd be searching
her room for-- for drugs.
426
00:22:46,333 --> 00:22:49,583
Whenever I'd open drawers,
there would be pills hidden.
427
00:22:49,583 --> 00:22:52,959
There would be pills
in the bathroom counters.
428
00:22:52,959 --> 00:22:55,875
You know,
in her coat pockets,
or in her shoes,
429
00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,166
in her sock drawer,
430
00:22:57,166 --> 00:23:00,458
I mean, in the back
of the food pantry,
or wherever.
431
00:23:00,458 --> 00:23:01,458
They were everywhere.
432
00:23:01,458 --> 00:23:03,625
Her family was ashamed.
433
00:23:03,625 --> 00:23:06,166
Every Christmas
was a disaster.
434
00:23:06,166 --> 00:23:07,625
All of a sudden,
we're losing friends,
435
00:23:07,625 --> 00:23:09,834
people didn't want
to be around us.
436
00:23:18,083 --> 00:23:20,959
Doyle:
I think at this point,
the kids...
437
00:23:20,959 --> 00:23:22,792
they were just starting
to understand it.
438
00:23:22,792 --> 00:23:26,583
The reason why I would keep
them out in the evenings,
you know,
439
00:23:26,583 --> 00:23:29,291
and always filled their days
with things, you know.
440
00:23:29,291 --> 00:23:31,625
I mean, at one point,
I had all three of 'em
in Little League,
441
00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:33,458
which was a disaster for me,
442
00:23:33,458 --> 00:23:34,917
because I'm driving
all over the place.
443
00:23:34,917 --> 00:23:38,208
Two practices and a game
for each one of 'em every week.
444
00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:40,625
You know, we'd have
dinner out all the time,
445
00:23:40,625 --> 00:23:42,166
and movies,
and you know.
446
00:23:42,166 --> 00:23:44,000
It was exhausting.
447
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,583
I'm trying to keep them away
448
00:23:45,583 --> 00:23:48,166
from wanting to go upstairs
and see their mom in bed.
449
00:23:48,166 --> 00:23:50,500
We knew there was a problem,
but there was nothing that
450
00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:52,125
we could say or do
that was gonna change it,
451
00:23:52,125 --> 00:23:54,417
so it just became
part of our life.
452
00:23:54,417 --> 00:23:58,166
Doyle:
In 2008,
like seven years into it,
453
00:23:58,166 --> 00:24:01,375
a rehab facility in Malibu
called and said,
454
00:24:01,375 --> 00:24:04,125
"Are you not coming
for family week?"
And I said, "No, I've had it.
455
00:24:04,125 --> 00:24:07,000
"You know, I'm not coming
to anymore family weeks.
456
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,792
I've been to too many already."
457
00:24:09,792 --> 00:24:12,250
And they said, um...
458
00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:15,250
"Well, it sounds to me
like you're done."
459
00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:18,792
And I said, "I don't even
know what that means."
460
00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:22,542
He said...
461
00:24:22,542 --> 00:24:24,875
"Well, if you're thinking
about a divorce,
462
00:24:24,875 --> 00:24:28,083
"we... we really ought
to think about that
while she's here,
463
00:24:28,083 --> 00:24:30,375
"so that she doesn't
come home to that
464
00:24:30,375 --> 00:24:32,625
and not have a support group."
465
00:24:32,625 --> 00:24:34,667
I mean, it was the first time
anybody had ever said...
466
00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:35,709
that I actually...
467
00:24:38,458 --> 00:24:41,208
you know,
could get out, so...
468
00:24:41,208 --> 00:24:44,208
um, I...
469
00:24:44,208 --> 00:24:46,458
I filed...
470
00:24:46,458 --> 00:24:49,041
and moved the kids out.
471
00:24:55,208 --> 00:24:56,750
When we divorced,
472
00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:58,667
Wynne got half custody,
473
00:24:58,667 --> 00:25:01,583
and started living
in San Francisco.
474
00:25:03,417 --> 00:25:05,375
The kids would visit her.
475
00:25:05,375 --> 00:25:06,542
They're getting older.
476
00:25:06,542 --> 00:25:08,250
They're starting
to really develop
477
00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:09,417
a relationship with their mom
478
00:25:09,417 --> 00:25:11,709
that's separate from me.
479
00:25:11,709 --> 00:25:13,333
Harry:
The last house that
we lived at with her
480
00:25:13,333 --> 00:25:17,875
was in the South Market,
and the Embarcadero.
481
00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:21,083
And I used to skate
on the Embarcadero at 10:30,
482
00:25:21,083 --> 00:25:23,166
'cause she would allow me
to, like, leave the house,
483
00:25:23,166 --> 00:25:24,625
like, she gave us
that much freedom.
484
00:25:24,625 --> 00:25:26,959
It was just like my favorite
feeling in the world.
485
00:25:34,041 --> 00:25:36,667
This was her house, you see,
with all these candles.
486
00:25:36,667 --> 00:25:38,959
Man:
Oh, that's cool, yeah.
487
00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:44,000
Doyle:
When the kids
were with her,
488
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,417
I was always on edge.
489
00:25:46,417 --> 00:25:49,959
Then it really just
became about safety.
490
00:25:49,959 --> 00:25:53,458
I became this hyper-vigilant
sort of guy,
491
00:25:53,458 --> 00:25:54,875
and she was fine,
492
00:25:54,875 --> 00:25:57,792
but I knew it
wasn't gonna last.
493
00:25:57,792 --> 00:26:00,083
It just slowly
deteriorated again.
494
00:26:04,166 --> 00:26:07,291
I heard from the kids
that she was going
into the hospital
495
00:26:07,291 --> 00:26:09,959
because she had
a kidney stone that
they had to remove.
496
00:26:09,959 --> 00:26:13,792
She had been taking
a lot of opiates,
497
00:26:13,792 --> 00:26:15,750
and once she got
to the hospital,
498
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:18,625
they were giving her
what a normal person
499
00:26:18,625 --> 00:26:22,417
would be getting as a dose
when you have pain,
500
00:26:22,417 --> 00:26:25,667
but it wasn't near
the amount she'd been
taking on her own.
501
00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:28,166
So, there she is
in a confined spot,
502
00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:30,959
for four days going
through withdrawals,
503
00:26:30,959 --> 00:26:34,333
and it was just getting worse.
504
00:26:34,333 --> 00:26:36,792
So, she left the hospital,
505
00:26:36,792 --> 00:26:41,375
and they gave her
a bunch of opiates
on the way out.
506
00:26:41,375 --> 00:26:43,458
Preston and Harry
were staying with their mom.
507
00:26:43,458 --> 00:26:45,500
Harry:
Like, she had all these pills
on the side of her bed.
508
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:48,625
"The hospital told me
to take these,"
and I was just like,
509
00:26:48,625 --> 00:26:51,500
just... please
don't overdo this.
510
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:52,959
Like, there's a lot
of pills here.
511
00:26:52,959 --> 00:26:55,041
Eight bottles
filled to the top,
512
00:26:55,041 --> 00:26:58,000
and I was like,
"Who gave you all of these?"
513
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,375
And she said,
"Oh, my doctor did."
514
00:26:59,375 --> 00:27:01,917
Like, "I'm still in a lot
of pain from the kidneys."
515
00:27:01,917 --> 00:27:05,333
And then, in the morning,
she was just laying there
516
00:27:05,333 --> 00:27:08,834
with her arms spread out,
and her eyes were kind of open.
517
00:27:08,834 --> 00:27:11,709
We said goodbye,
and got no response,
518
00:27:11,709 --> 00:27:13,875
and we thought that was odd.
519
00:27:13,875 --> 00:27:15,875
Preston, like, pulled out
his phone to, like,
520
00:27:15,875 --> 00:27:18,041
take a video to just,
like, show our father,
521
00:27:18,041 --> 00:27:19,875
like, what was,
like, going on.
522
00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:22,458
And I told him, like,
523
00:27:22,458 --> 00:27:24,125
"Put down the phone,
like, right now."
524
00:27:24,125 --> 00:27:25,375
And he's like, "Why?"
525
00:27:25,375 --> 00:27:27,333
And like I, that was--
I was like grabbing her foot,
526
00:27:27,333 --> 00:27:28,959
and it was just ice-cold.
527
00:27:28,959 --> 00:27:31,709
And I called 911,
they were telling me to do
chest compressions on her.
528
00:27:31,709 --> 00:27:33,542
I was just yelling
at Preston to stop,
529
00:27:33,542 --> 00:27:36,000
and he was just like,
said, "We need to do
everything we can."
530
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,542
and... it was, um...
531
00:27:38,542 --> 00:27:40,583
I mean, that's when
I had to call, like,
my father.
532
00:27:40,583 --> 00:27:42,542
And it just was surreal,
533
00:27:42,542 --> 00:27:44,834
in having the conversation
with Harry
534
00:27:44,834 --> 00:27:46,709
as I can hear Preston
in the background.
535
00:27:46,709 --> 00:27:49,458
"Mom's dead.
Like we-- we need
to do something,"
536
00:27:49,458 --> 00:27:51,458
and he just--
he didn't believe me,
and I was just like,
537
00:27:51,458 --> 00:27:54,041
"Just get to the city,
like, right now."
538
00:27:54,041 --> 00:27:57,583
And then hearing Preston
screaming on the other--
539
00:28:01,250 --> 00:28:03,583
You know, he's, um...
540
00:28:03,583 --> 00:28:06,250
trying to give her
compressions. (sniffles)
541
00:28:15,458 --> 00:28:16,917
Doyle:
By the end...
542
00:28:16,917 --> 00:28:20,250
at the funeral,
there were hardly
any of her friends.
543
00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:31,792
Britt:
When I saw the pills
on her bedside table,
544
00:28:31,792 --> 00:28:33,625
when she had passed,
545
00:28:33,625 --> 00:28:37,625
that was probably
the most anger
I could feel ever,
546
00:28:37,625 --> 00:28:40,333
because she's been
to that hospital
547
00:28:40,333 --> 00:28:42,917
easily like 50 times.
548
00:28:42,917 --> 00:28:46,291
They've seen her there,
unconscious, had to, like,
pump her stomach
549
00:28:46,291 --> 00:28:48,083
so many times,
550
00:28:48,083 --> 00:28:50,291
and yet, she comes in there,
551
00:28:50,291 --> 00:28:53,333
and they leave her,
like, with more?
552
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:57,125
Doyle:
I firmly believe
that there are so many people
553
00:28:57,125 --> 00:28:59,709
that are being
prescribed opiates
554
00:28:59,709 --> 00:29:02,625
without any
direction or support
555
00:29:02,625 --> 00:29:05,083
that have no idea
what they're getting into,
556
00:29:05,083 --> 00:29:07,125
and then, once they
can't get out of it
557
00:29:07,125 --> 00:29:10,959
the shame and the inability
to actually confront it
558
00:29:10,959 --> 00:29:14,417
and talk about it
with somebody...
makes it worse,
559
00:29:14,417 --> 00:29:18,709
because now,
all of a sudden,
they're an addict.
560
00:30:06,250 --> 00:30:07,500
Do you like it so far?
561
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,583
I love it,
I think it's beautiful.
562
00:30:10,583 --> 00:30:14,041
I was thinking,
maybe we would
make one for your mommy.
563
00:30:14,041 --> 00:30:16,375
That's what I
would like to do when,
564
00:30:16,375 --> 00:30:19,041
when I'm done with yours,
if that's okay.
565
00:30:19,041 --> 00:30:22,041
Let her know
that we're thinking of her.
566
00:30:22,041 --> 00:30:25,375
Kelly:
I have adopted Audrey.
567
00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:28,417
She needed
stability, security,
568
00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:30,375
and until my daughter
could recover,
569
00:30:30,375 --> 00:30:31,709
she just couldn't
give her that.
570
00:30:31,709 --> 00:30:35,125
Kelly:
I'm trying to keep
her a child.
571
00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:37,166
I don't want her
to grow up too fast.
572
00:30:37,166 --> 00:30:39,375
But she's part of this,
573
00:30:39,375 --> 00:30:41,417
and she's kind of my partner.
574
00:30:41,417 --> 00:30:42,583
We have the Narcan,
575
00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:45,250
and I dropped
some off for her.
576
00:30:45,250 --> 00:30:47,375
If something happened,
577
00:30:47,375 --> 00:30:50,583
and I couldn't
get over there,
578
00:30:50,583 --> 00:30:52,750
do you remember
what you would do?
579
00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:55,792
Where--
where do I keep it?
580
00:30:55,792 --> 00:30:56,792
In the top.
581
00:30:56,792 --> 00:31:00,667
So I keep
the Narcan right here.
582
00:31:00,667 --> 00:31:04,083
This one is real
easy access
583
00:31:04,083 --> 00:31:06,166
for Audrey if she needs to.
584
00:31:06,166 --> 00:31:08,583
I keep a couple
of packs inside here.
585
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:17,166
Three, actually,
586
00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:19,458
and it's two...
two doses per box.
587
00:31:20,959 --> 00:31:23,709
But this is really
easy for her to reach.
588
00:31:23,709 --> 00:31:25,250
I can get at it.
589
00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:28,041
It's very visible
in the red bag.
590
00:31:28,041 --> 00:31:30,500
If she wasn't moving,
591
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:33,291
try to shake her?
I would check if
she was breathing.
592
00:31:33,291 --> 00:31:34,959
Okay.
593
00:31:34,959 --> 00:31:37,083
And, then, what's the
next thing you would do?
594
00:31:40,041 --> 00:31:42,834
Rub, rub the lips,
try to stimulate her.
595
00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:44,166
And then what
would you do
596
00:31:44,166 --> 00:31:45,875
if she didn't wake up?
597
00:31:45,875 --> 00:31:50,083
Then I would take
the... the Narcan...
598
00:31:50,083 --> 00:31:51,208
Okay.
599
00:31:51,208 --> 00:31:55,458
...and I would...
and I would place it
on her thigh,
600
00:31:55,458 --> 00:31:56,875
her butt,
601
00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:58,583
or right here.
Yep.
602
00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:02,000
Exactly. And then
what do you do?
603
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,709
Then, call 911.
604
00:32:04,709 --> 00:32:06,000
Right.
605
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,792
I'm gonna say
a special prayer
for your mommy today,
606
00:32:09,792 --> 00:32:12,458
'cause she really needs it.
607
00:32:12,458 --> 00:32:15,041
I know she's
trying very hard,
608
00:32:15,041 --> 00:32:16,875
and I know
she misses you.
609
00:32:23,667 --> 00:32:26,000
I'm gonna bring
some to Stephany.
610
00:32:28,291 --> 00:32:30,875
I don't know
what she's doing...
611
00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:36,500
but it's always good
to have it there,
just in case.
612
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,291
And also...
613
00:32:38,291 --> 00:32:41,083
a lot of times,
they don't use alone.
614
00:33:50,417 --> 00:33:51,917
They're so pretty.
615
00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:20,709
Gail Cole:
When we found him,
616
00:34:20,709 --> 00:34:23,667
the two of us
pulled him off the bed.
617
00:34:23,667 --> 00:34:25,458
I'll never forget the sound
618
00:34:25,458 --> 00:34:28,417
of just the air
coming out of his lungs.
619
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,417
For the longest time,
I couldn't come in this room.
620
00:34:33,458 --> 00:34:36,583
It's literally like
the day he died.
621
00:34:36,583 --> 00:34:38,959
It took me a year to come in
622
00:34:38,959 --> 00:34:40,458
and throw his garbage out,
623
00:34:40,458 --> 00:34:41,625
and I think I did that,
624
00:34:41,625 --> 00:34:43,709
because I saw that
the medical examiner
625
00:34:43,709 --> 00:34:45,458
left the wrapper for
the body bag in there.
626
00:34:47,583 --> 00:34:49,667
I just--
I can't go through it.
627
00:34:49,667 --> 00:34:52,583
I feel like it's like
getting rid of him.
628
00:34:52,583 --> 00:34:55,000
Brian Cole:
Part of me takes great comfort
in all of this stuff too.
629
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Just reminds me
of his personality,
you know.
630
00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:09,834
Brian:
I did everything possible
631
00:35:09,834 --> 00:35:13,583
to-- to create a perfect
life for a family.
632
00:35:13,583 --> 00:35:15,583
Brendan:
Brothers get together!
633
00:35:15,583 --> 00:35:17,458
Brian (in video):
All the brothers, hold on.
634
00:35:17,458 --> 00:35:18,834
Brian:
To have this
happen is just
635
00:35:18,834 --> 00:35:20,792
not even conceivable to me.
636
00:35:20,792 --> 00:35:22,417
Brian (in video):
Come on, Connor.
637
00:35:22,417 --> 00:35:24,166
Gail (in video):
Here's Brendan!
638
00:35:24,166 --> 00:35:26,041
Hey baby, I'm not four yet!
639
00:35:26,041 --> 00:35:27,667
Brian (in video):
Yeah, Brendan!
640
00:35:32,291 --> 00:35:35,875
Brian: That's his calendar,
he was marking off the days
when he was first...
641
00:35:35,875 --> 00:35:37,375
Gail: Sober?
Brian: ...sober.
642
00:35:37,375 --> 00:35:39,875
I just thought it would
be important for him
to be able to
643
00:35:39,875 --> 00:35:42,041
look at the calendar
at the end of every day,
644
00:35:42,041 --> 00:35:43,417
and cross it off,
and say, you know,
645
00:35:43,417 --> 00:35:44,709
"There's another day,
I've done it."
646
00:35:44,709 --> 00:35:46,709
You know? I just
wanted him to have
647
00:35:46,709 --> 00:35:50,166
some type of way
of measuring his success.
648
00:35:51,542 --> 00:35:52,792
Gail: When he had
come out of rehab,
649
00:35:52,792 --> 00:35:54,208
he looked the best
he had in years,
650
00:35:54,208 --> 00:35:57,333
He looked so healthy
and was so positive.
651
00:35:57,333 --> 00:36:00,458
And he said,
"Oh, can I borrow the car?
I want to go to the mall."
652
00:36:00,458 --> 00:36:02,208
And I said, "Sure."
653
00:36:02,208 --> 00:36:03,709
And he's only gone
45 minutes.
654
00:36:03,709 --> 00:36:06,500
He's texting Brian pictures
of shoes, of all things.
655
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:08,834
And he came back.
656
00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:10,750
He poked his head in,
I said, "You know,"
657
00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:12,542
I said, "It's so nice
to have you back."
658
00:36:12,542 --> 00:36:15,750
He goes, "Thanks, Mom,
I love you. Thanks for
giving me another chance."
659
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:17,583
And, with that,
I look at his face
660
00:36:17,583 --> 00:36:20,250
and I'm, like,
"Wow! He's high."
661
00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:25,083
And, you know, the yelling,
the screaming, and...
662
00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:27,500
we agreed tomorrow
would be another day.
663
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,208
And, um, I went to sleep.
664
00:36:29,208 --> 00:36:31,250
Brian fell asleep
on the, on the couch,
665
00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:35,125
and woke up
at around one o'clock,
by the grace of God.
666
00:36:36,917 --> 00:36:41,083
He found him kind of laying
at an odd angle on the bed.
667
00:36:41,083 --> 00:36:43,375
He turned on the light
and screamed.
668
00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:44,750
His lips were turning blue.
669
00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:47,500
He was unconscious.
He was barely breathing.
670
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:49,750
And you were screaming,
we're shaking him,
671
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:51,166
calling 911.
672
00:36:51,166 --> 00:36:53,792
The police came,
the ambulance came,
673
00:36:53,792 --> 00:36:56,250
and then Mobile
Intensive Care came
674
00:36:56,250 --> 00:36:59,000
and they revived him
with Narcan...
675
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,792
and he walked out
the front door
to the ambulance.
676
00:37:09,083 --> 00:37:11,625
When we got into
the emergency room,
677
00:37:11,625 --> 00:37:14,834
nobody really talked
about the withdrawal
from the Narcan,
678
00:37:14,834 --> 00:37:17,625
and there was
no real game plan
679
00:37:17,625 --> 00:37:20,208
for what to do
after overdosing.
680
00:37:20,208 --> 00:37:22,625
So, we got in the car
and I drove him home,
681
00:37:22,625 --> 00:37:25,542
and I could, could
barely even speak to him.
682
00:37:25,542 --> 00:37:26,834
I was just so furious.
683
00:37:26,834 --> 00:37:28,834
He was, you know,
sleeping in the front seat,
684
00:37:28,834 --> 00:37:30,667
and we pulled in
the garage and I said,
685
00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:34,500
"Do me a favor, would you
just take a shower and try
to get yourself together?"
686
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,583
And he goes, "I can't."
687
00:37:36,583 --> 00:37:39,208
And I didn't
really understand,
688
00:37:39,208 --> 00:37:41,333
but I've learned,
after the fact,
689
00:37:41,333 --> 00:37:44,250
that when you're
going through withdrawal,
690
00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:48,000
it hurts to shave,
it hurts to shower,
it hurts to brush your teeth.
691
00:37:49,583 --> 00:37:50,875
He went up in his room.
692
00:37:50,875 --> 00:37:52,291
The door was open.
693
00:37:52,291 --> 00:37:54,291
We had his laptop,
we had his cellphone.
694
00:37:54,291 --> 00:37:55,875
We had taken
all those away,
695
00:37:55,875 --> 00:37:57,834
so he was, you know,
kind of in lockdown.
696
00:37:57,834 --> 00:38:00,000
That was at 1:30
in the afternoon.
697
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,542
And then about 2:30,
Brian came up
698
00:38:02,542 --> 00:38:03,792
and said to him, he goes,
699
00:38:03,792 --> 00:38:05,750
you know, kind of
tussled his hair, and said,
700
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:08,542
"You know...
you got a second chance.
701
00:38:08,542 --> 00:38:10,041
Not everyone gets
a second chance."
702
00:38:10,041 --> 00:38:13,250
He goes, "You better not
waste that second chance."
703
00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:17,208
And that was probably
the last thing anyone
said to him.
704
00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:21,875
It was about quarter to three,
and I came upstairs,
705
00:38:21,875 --> 00:38:26,041
and he was kneeling
with his hands on his head.
706
00:38:26,041 --> 00:38:28,625
And, to this day,
I wish I would have said
something to him.
707
00:38:28,625 --> 00:38:29,959
I wish I would have
come over and said,
708
00:38:29,959 --> 00:38:31,875
"You know, B, I love you.
It's going to be okay."
709
00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:34,500
Connor came home.
710
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,750
It was 20 after three, or so,
and he said, "Where's B?"
711
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:40,917
I said, "I don't know.
He's upstairs kneeling
next to his bed."
712
00:38:40,917 --> 00:38:43,208
And he went upstairs.
713
00:38:43,208 --> 00:38:45,667
And he must've tried to...
714
00:38:45,667 --> 00:38:48,417
move him and shake him,
and he screamed.
715
00:38:48,417 --> 00:38:50,917
And we called 911 immediately.
716
00:38:50,917 --> 00:38:53,709
And everyone--
Connor's throwing up,
717
00:38:53,709 --> 00:38:54,875
and everyone's screaming,
718
00:38:54,875 --> 00:38:57,041
and Brian had run over
and got our neighbor
719
00:38:57,041 --> 00:38:59,125
who was a doctor.
720
00:38:59,125 --> 00:39:01,458
It was a nightmare.
721
00:39:01,458 --> 00:39:04,500
They, uh, made us
leave the room.
722
00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:07,083
And they tried to revive him
again with the Narcan,
723
00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:08,125
but it didn't work.
724
00:39:10,667 --> 00:39:15,208
They had worked on him
for about 40 minutes.
725
00:39:15,208 --> 00:39:17,959
I knew. I just,
I knew he was gone.
726
00:39:17,959 --> 00:39:22,875
You know,
you prayed, you hoped.
You did everything, but...
727
00:39:22,875 --> 00:39:26,083
And probably at about 4:20,
728
00:39:26,083 --> 00:39:28,792
our neighbor
pronounced him dead.
729
00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:34,583
He had used heroin again.
730
00:39:34,583 --> 00:39:38,083
We found this
old stuffed animal
731
00:39:38,083 --> 00:39:43,166
that had old baggies
of heroin and a syringe in it.
732
00:39:43,166 --> 00:39:45,417
I had the hardest time,
and so did Brian,
733
00:39:45,417 --> 00:39:48,208
wrapping our head around that.
734
00:39:48,208 --> 00:39:50,417
Why would
he have done that?
735
00:39:50,417 --> 00:39:53,458
Like... he knew we loved him.
736
00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:54,792
He knew we wanted to,
you know,
737
00:39:54,792 --> 00:39:57,917
send him back to rehab
and get him help.
738
00:39:57,917 --> 00:39:59,458
And what
could you be thinking,
739
00:39:59,458 --> 00:40:02,291
that, like, that
love wasn't enough.
740
00:40:03,917 --> 00:40:06,000
Brian:
One of the things
that's always a regret
741
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
is that you
completely underestimate
742
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,792
how hard the battle
of addiction is.
743
00:40:11,959 --> 00:40:13,959
I mean, you think that,
if you drop everything,
744
00:40:13,959 --> 00:40:16,125
and, you know, you get
the right help,
745
00:40:16,125 --> 00:40:17,750
that you'll be able
to see your way through this
746
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:20,959
and help somebody,
but it's not quite that easy.
747
00:40:20,959 --> 00:40:23,000
I mean, I thought I knew Brendan
like the back of my hand,
748
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,458
but it's a different person
once this addiction kicks in.
749
00:40:27,625 --> 00:40:29,500
As a father,
you have this,
750
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,125
this guilt that it,
it happened on your watch.
751
00:40:32,125 --> 00:40:34,417
And it's just, you know,
you can explain it away
all you want,
752
00:40:34,417 --> 00:40:37,667
and other people
can tell you, you know,
you did everything you could.
753
00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:40,875
But that always will linger
in the back of your mind.
754
00:40:42,834 --> 00:40:45,000
You taking that also?
Yeah.
755
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,166
And this?
Yep.
756
00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:03,000
Gail:
When Brendan overdosed,
757
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,458
we didn't know
what happened.
758
00:41:04,458 --> 00:41:07,041
Heroin?
Like, you know,
here we are, we're in...
759
00:41:07,041 --> 00:41:09,667
we're in Allendale,
we're in "Mayberry."
760
00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:11,208
Heroin,
you think a dark alley,
761
00:41:11,208 --> 00:41:13,709
you think, you know,
somebody on the streets,
762
00:41:13,709 --> 00:41:17,166
not in towns like this.
763
00:41:22,041 --> 00:41:23,542
Gail:
Just sign in.
Nice to see you.
764
00:41:23,542 --> 00:41:25,333
Man:
Good to see you too.
765
00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:27,041
Yeah, just sign in,
make a name tag.
766
00:41:27,041 --> 00:41:30,709
Gail: We formed a group
"Hope and Healing
After an Addiction Death,"
767
00:41:30,709 --> 00:41:32,041
and we meet twice a month,
768
00:41:32,041 --> 00:41:34,083
and it's for people
who have lost somebody
769
00:41:34,083 --> 00:41:36,041
to the disease of addiction.
770
00:41:36,041 --> 00:41:38,875
I thought we would start
by sharing our stories,
771
00:41:38,875 --> 00:41:42,166
um, and, if you have a picture,
that would be great.
772
00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:43,709
Um, you know, just,
773
00:41:43,709 --> 00:41:46,917
share your story
and, and talk about
what you went through.
774
00:41:48,917 --> 00:41:50,667
I have two pictures of Georgia.
775
00:41:52,583 --> 00:41:54,500
This is my favorite.
776
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:56,417
Gail:
That's Georgia.
Group: Georgia, Georgia.
777
00:41:56,417 --> 00:41:58,291
This is her.
This is her.
778
00:41:58,291 --> 00:42:00,917
She's just all energy.
779
00:42:00,917 --> 00:42:02,250
All, like, "Yeah!"
780
00:42:02,250 --> 00:42:05,875
You know?
And that's how she was.
781
00:42:06,959 --> 00:42:08,959
David (on tape):
Georgia. Hey, Georgia.
782
00:42:08,959 --> 00:42:12,000
Come here. What?
783
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,834
David:
When Georgia was born,
784
00:42:13,834 --> 00:42:16,750
I remember that I was
in the delivery room with her,
785
00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:18,458
and I started talking to her.
786
00:42:18,458 --> 00:42:21,417
I didn't talk to her
like she was a newborn baby.
787
00:42:21,417 --> 00:42:23,959
I talked to her like
she was somebody who...
788
00:42:23,959 --> 00:42:25,583
we had been waiting for,
789
00:42:25,583 --> 00:42:27,709
and that she had been
waiting to arrive.
790
00:42:27,709 --> 00:42:29,625
Who is that?
791
00:42:31,625 --> 00:42:34,625
David:
Within minutes,
we had our first conversation.
792
00:42:34,625 --> 00:42:37,041
It was one-sided, but...
793
00:42:37,041 --> 00:42:39,917
but it was, uh...
794
00:42:39,917 --> 00:42:41,458
Judy:
But she was special,
795
00:42:41,458 --> 00:42:46,792
she was the first
grandchild, first niece.
David: Yeah.
796
00:42:46,792 --> 00:42:49,792
And we took a lot of pictures
of her doing nothing.
797
00:42:49,792 --> 00:42:51,917
We thought it
was so exciting.
798
00:42:51,917 --> 00:42:53,834
Judy:
She was just very happy.
799
00:42:53,834 --> 00:42:57,542
It was a very special,
happy time of life.
800
00:42:57,542 --> 00:43:00,583
David:
I had a nickname for her,
I called her "Soda Pop,"
801
00:43:00,583 --> 00:43:02,375
because she was bubbly,
802
00:43:02,375 --> 00:43:04,041
and she was, like,
you know...
803
00:43:04,041 --> 00:43:06,875
you didn't want
to shake her
before opening her.
804
00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:11,250
David:
It was just
a constant amazement.
805
00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:12,667
You know, watching her unfold
806
00:43:12,667 --> 00:43:15,834
into an amazingly
bright, young child.
807
00:43:17,875 --> 00:43:23,542
She died, um,
Thanksgiving Day a year ago.
808
00:43:23,542 --> 00:43:25,667
She was 26.
809
00:43:25,667 --> 00:43:27,750
It's like she never
knew what hit her.
810
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:29,959
But the way
she described it with me was,
811
00:43:29,959 --> 00:43:32,625
that, um, she was
working with a group
812
00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:34,291
that ran several
group homes,
813
00:43:34,291 --> 00:43:36,500
and she was an assistant
in these group homes,
814
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:37,959
and one day,
she was taking a break.
815
00:43:37,959 --> 00:43:41,458
She was on the porch,
and this was in 2011,
816
00:43:41,458 --> 00:43:43,500
and she fell
through a guard rail,
817
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:45,250
or a hand rail,
on the porch.
818
00:43:45,250 --> 00:43:46,750
Took a fall
and went down.
819
00:43:46,750 --> 00:43:49,000
Hurt her back
and her hip,
820
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,041
and went and got
prescribed these,
821
00:43:52,041 --> 00:43:53,667
you know,
monster painkillers.
822
00:43:53,667 --> 00:43:56,500
It could have been
anything from Vicodin,
823
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:58,291
OxyCodone, I'm not sure.
824
00:43:58,291 --> 00:44:01,709
I know it was one of
the heavier ones just
by the way she described it.
825
00:44:01,709 --> 00:44:04,208
And they gave her enough
826
00:44:04,208 --> 00:44:07,208
that, by the time
the prescription ran out,
827
00:44:07,208 --> 00:44:09,166
she needed more.
828
00:44:09,166 --> 00:44:11,542
And, then, this one night,
829
00:44:11,542 --> 00:44:14,375
I came up the stairs
to go into the bathroom,
830
00:44:14,375 --> 00:44:17,417
and Georgia was in
the doorway of her room,
831
00:44:17,417 --> 00:44:20,875
and she was upset
about not being able
to find something.
832
00:44:20,875 --> 00:44:22,291
So I said, "Okay."
833
00:44:22,291 --> 00:44:24,709
I went into the bathroom,
834
00:44:24,709 --> 00:44:26,959
and as I shut the door,
in the middle of the floor,
835
00:44:26,959 --> 00:44:28,375
was a glasses case.
836
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,208
David:
Right? So.
837
00:44:31,208 --> 00:44:32,625
Somebody dropped
their glasses case.
838
00:44:32,625 --> 00:44:35,792
I picked it up
to put it on the counter,
839
00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:37,417
and it felt weird.
840
00:44:37,417 --> 00:44:39,291
And I opened it up,
841
00:44:39,291 --> 00:44:42,750
and there was six
bags of heroin,
842
00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:45,959
and a syringe, and a couple
of other things in there,
and I just went...
843
00:44:45,959 --> 00:44:48,792
"Oh, no, no, no, no."
You know?
844
00:44:48,792 --> 00:44:51,125
And she said she didn't know
where it came from.
845
00:44:51,125 --> 00:44:53,583
"Oh, my God," you know,
it was just the whole thing.
846
00:44:53,583 --> 00:44:55,667
And, and... (sighs)
847
00:44:55,667 --> 00:45:00,083
So this was probably
a month before it happened.
848
00:45:00,083 --> 00:45:03,041
On Thanksgiving morning,
849
00:45:03,041 --> 00:45:06,291
Judy woke me up
about five o'clock, I guess.
850
00:45:06,291 --> 00:45:09,041
And she said,
"Something's wrong with Georgia.
851
00:45:09,041 --> 00:45:12,125
I can't wake her up,
and she's really cold."
852
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,500
So I went
into the living room,
853
00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:22,625
and Georgia was sitting,
854
00:45:22,625 --> 00:45:23,959
the television was on,
855
00:45:23,959 --> 00:45:27,166
she was sitting
between the couch
856
00:45:27,166 --> 00:45:29,417
and the coffee table
on the floor
857
00:45:29,417 --> 00:45:31,166
with her feet out
in front of her,
858
00:45:31,166 --> 00:45:32,875
and her hands
folded in her lap.
859
00:45:32,875 --> 00:45:35,500
She had just leaned
forward like this.
860
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:40,625
And we had this little
carpet-covered stool thing,
you know, right there.
861
00:45:40,625 --> 00:45:44,208
There was a syringe
laying right on top of it,
862
00:45:44,208 --> 00:45:48,625
and it looked like
she had just dozed off.
863
00:45:48,625 --> 00:45:50,875
And I went over to her and I--
864
00:45:50,875 --> 00:45:54,583
and I could--
as soon as I touched her...
865
00:45:54,583 --> 00:45:58,542
I don't know, at that point,
you're just in something
that you can't even...
866
00:46:00,041 --> 00:46:01,542
describe.
867
00:46:01,542 --> 00:46:04,667
Well, all of you probably could.
868
00:46:04,667 --> 00:46:07,458
So, I put my hand
around her neck
looking for a pulse,
869
00:46:07,458 --> 00:46:10,333
and her skin was
starting to get that
870
00:46:10,333 --> 00:46:13,959
real stiff kind of,
you know...
871
00:46:13,959 --> 00:46:16,792
If you've ever had
a dead pet
872
00:46:16,792 --> 00:46:20,125
that you've had to pick up,
you know that feeling,
873
00:46:20,125 --> 00:46:21,709
and I knew I wasn't
going to find a pulse,
874
00:46:21,709 --> 00:46:24,000
and then I got around, you know,
I had turned on the lights.
875
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,792
So I got around
in front of her,
876
00:46:25,792 --> 00:46:27,750
and I picked her head up,
877
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:29,667
and I looked--
878
00:46:41,625 --> 00:46:43,750
David:
I had called the police,
879
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:46,166
and they were on their way.
880
00:46:46,166 --> 00:46:47,500
And whatever I said to Judy,
881
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:49,583
I let her know that
Georgia was gone.
882
00:46:51,208 --> 00:46:53,417
And we finally went outside
883
00:46:53,417 --> 00:46:56,208
with our son, Eli, and
884
00:46:56,208 --> 00:46:58,000
a man pulled up in a car,
885
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,375
parked across the street,
and he got out with a camera,
886
00:47:01,375 --> 00:47:02,875
a big camera in his hand,
887
00:47:02,875 --> 00:47:07,125
and it was obvious
that he was going
to photograph the scene,
888
00:47:07,125 --> 00:47:11,041
but as he was
walking toward me,
889
00:47:11,041 --> 00:47:12,333
we made eye contact,
890
00:47:12,333 --> 00:47:15,375
and he said,
"I'm sorry for your loss."
891
00:47:17,417 --> 00:47:18,917
Pretty soon after that,
892
00:47:18,917 --> 00:47:22,083
they were rolling her out
of the front door on a gurney...
893
00:47:25,583 --> 00:47:28,041
in a body bag.
(sniffles)
894
00:47:33,083 --> 00:47:35,709
That was the last
time she was here.
895
00:47:39,125 --> 00:47:44,250
This person that had
been a part of my life
896
00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:47,959
for more than 26 years...
897
00:47:47,959 --> 00:47:50,959
(sniffles)
would never be again.
898
00:47:52,583 --> 00:47:56,667
I know she's,
uh, she's here.
899
00:47:56,667 --> 00:47:58,625
I feel her.
900
00:47:58,625 --> 00:48:01,959
And I talk to her
the same way I always have.
901
00:48:03,250 --> 00:48:04,959
I miss her.
902
00:48:44,625 --> 00:48:46,959
Kelly:
The last time
I was with her,
903
00:48:46,959 --> 00:48:49,375
she seemed fine.
904
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:57,333
Her outlook on
things was hopeful.
905
00:49:00,083 --> 00:49:02,166
And then...
906
00:49:02,166 --> 00:49:03,667
all of a sudden, nothing.
907
00:49:03,667 --> 00:49:06,625
She's not answering the phone.
908
00:49:06,625 --> 00:49:09,000
She's not answering the door.
909
00:49:15,333 --> 00:49:19,333
She started this relapse
around the time
910
00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:21,333
of Ashley's birthday.
911
00:49:27,875 --> 00:49:29,500
Stephany?
912
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:32,166
Kelly:
And, when she's using,
it's a very dark,
913
00:49:32,166 --> 00:49:34,208
small, closed world.
914
00:49:36,166 --> 00:49:37,333
Stephany?
915
00:49:44,041 --> 00:49:45,709
Steph?
916
00:49:48,417 --> 00:49:49,792
Kelly:
What happened?
917
00:49:49,792 --> 00:49:51,583
We were together.
918
00:49:51,583 --> 00:49:53,583
We were making plans.
919
00:49:58,458 --> 00:50:01,208
Kelly:
Nobody's given up
on you, please.
920
00:50:02,875 --> 00:50:04,625
Please, honey.
921
00:50:04,625 --> 00:50:07,417
You can't do it
on your own, sweetie.
922
00:50:09,625 --> 00:50:12,792
You tried,
you gotta go in.
923
00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:21,959
Kelly:
Why don't you
get up, and...
924
00:50:21,959 --> 00:50:25,125
you come back to the house,
take a nice hot shower.
925
00:50:25,125 --> 00:50:28,250
You'll feel better.
Get dressed.
926
00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:31,583
Okay? You ready?
927
00:50:31,583 --> 00:50:32,792
Yeah.
928
00:50:38,083 --> 00:50:39,792
Kelly:
Okay.
929
00:51:13,333 --> 00:51:16,959
Oh, it feels
a lot nicer in here.
930
00:51:16,959 --> 00:51:18,959
Laura:
Better than the majority
of my clients.
931
00:51:21,208 --> 00:51:22,959
I'm going to sit here.
932
00:51:22,959 --> 00:51:25,959
Kelly:
You want to try
a little protein?
933
00:51:25,959 --> 00:51:27,333
Whatever. Looks good.
934
00:51:27,333 --> 00:51:30,000
Kelly: They're not chilled.
I was drinking... (indistinct)
935
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,750
Laura: I can get some
for you if you want--
936
00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:34,625
Like ice tea, like
this is really good.
937
00:51:34,625 --> 00:51:38,583
Well, drink the ice tea.
There's a, a pot
of it in there, too.
938
00:51:38,583 --> 00:51:41,041
If you want,
I'll chill this,
this is good for you.
939
00:51:41,041 --> 00:51:44,000
All right.
Kelly: I don't know how
well you've been eating.
940
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,041
I haven't eaten
in like two days.
941
00:51:47,041 --> 00:51:49,834
I just need my clothes.
942
00:51:49,834 --> 00:51:51,875
Kelly:
Clothes? You've got them.
943
00:52:07,125 --> 00:52:08,375
Laura: Mm-hmm.
944
00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:10,709
I'm worried about that too.
945
00:52:10,709 --> 00:52:12,208
Steph?
946
00:52:12,208 --> 00:52:15,125
What are you doing?
Stephany: I'm taking
my medication!
947
00:52:15,125 --> 00:52:17,417
You okay?
Yes.
948
00:52:34,208 --> 00:52:36,709
And I can't
straighten it or close it.
949
00:52:41,917 --> 00:52:45,542
Laura:
This is the spoon
of a heroin user.
950
00:52:45,542 --> 00:52:47,875
She had it in her bag.
951
00:52:51,792 --> 00:52:55,959
Stephany is feeling
very anxious right now.
952
00:52:55,959 --> 00:52:57,750
She's gonna be going into rehab.
953
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:59,750
She knows that she can't use.
954
00:53:05,417 --> 00:53:09,291
The program that we started
is called "A Way Out."
955
00:53:09,291 --> 00:53:10,875
We have seven
police departments
956
00:53:10,875 --> 00:53:12,875
in our county
that are participating,
957
00:53:12,875 --> 00:53:16,000
and someone can walk
into the police department
and say,
958
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,125
"I need help."
959
00:53:17,125 --> 00:53:20,375
No repercussions whatsoever.
960
00:53:30,208 --> 00:53:31,583
Okay.
(retches)
961
00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:33,166
Okay.
962
00:53:34,625 --> 00:53:36,834
Okay.
963
00:53:36,834 --> 00:53:38,125
All right.
964
00:53:49,291 --> 00:53:52,709
If you do have any sort
of paraphernalia or drugs--
965
00:53:52,709 --> 00:53:54,375
Stephany:
I got-- gave it
all to my mom.
966
00:53:54,375 --> 00:53:56,125
Yeah, I've done
her laundry before,
967
00:53:56,125 --> 00:53:59,041
and I've asked her,
"Is there anything in there
that will poke me?"
968
00:53:59,041 --> 00:54:00,458
Like how-- how many bags?
969
00:54:00,458 --> 00:54:04,458
I just have,
like, a backpack
and, like, a carry bag
970
00:54:04,458 --> 00:54:08,542
with clothes in it
for when I go.
Okay. So, what
we'll do on, on our end,
971
00:54:08,542 --> 00:54:10,792
is we'll go through it. Okay?
Kelly:
Yeah, that's...
972
00:54:10,792 --> 00:54:12,709
just in case, she might--
It's part of the program,
973
00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:15,875
so, whatever we find,
it just gets disposed of.
974
00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:46,000
Stephany:
I definitely did not know that
that one was there, Officer.
975
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,375
Just a little bit.
976
00:54:49,041 --> 00:54:50,959
Kelly:
What is it?
977
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,375
It's like really
embarrassing.
Officer: Okay.
978
00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:56,667
It happens.
979
00:55:02,875 --> 00:55:06,709
Hi, this is Officer
Jake Anderson with the
Mundelein Police Department.
980
00:55:06,709 --> 00:55:08,875
I am calling with
an "A Way Out" participant.
981
00:55:10,875 --> 00:55:12,083
Hi.
982
00:55:13,417 --> 00:55:14,583
Oh.
983
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,875
Sure.
984
00:55:19,875 --> 00:55:22,667
Well, I have, I've suffered
with kidney stones.
985
00:55:22,667 --> 00:55:26,041
That's how I got
addicted to opiates was
986
00:55:26,041 --> 00:55:30,041
I had been getting kidney stones
since I was sixteen,
987
00:55:30,041 --> 00:55:32,375
but that's it.
988
00:55:34,917 --> 00:55:36,208
Okay.
989
00:55:42,458 --> 00:55:43,750
Stephany:
Okay.
990
00:55:53,792 --> 00:55:57,250
Kelly:
I do blame
prescription opioids
991
00:55:57,250 --> 00:55:59,083
for my daughter's addiction.
992
00:56:03,625 --> 00:56:07,041
I never pieced together
993
00:56:07,041 --> 00:56:10,834
how does one become
an I.V. drug user.
994
00:56:10,834 --> 00:56:14,667
That was... that was
the bridge right there.
995
00:56:14,667 --> 00:56:16,166
Officer:
Are you ready?
996
00:56:16,166 --> 00:56:18,792
Yep.
I'll help you carry
some stuff here.
997
00:56:20,709 --> 00:56:24,166
Kelly:
She was still a teenager
when she started with 'em...
998
00:56:24,166 --> 00:56:27,667
these really
high-powered pills.
999
00:56:32,250 --> 00:56:35,625
And I trusted the doctors.
1000
00:59:46,792 --> 00:59:49,041
DANIEL EDNEY: I had been in
pain for a good while.
1001
00:59:49,041 --> 00:59:53,375
The pain was basically
a chronic, unrelenting
1002
00:59:53,375 --> 00:59:55,333
burning feeling in my neck,
1003
00:59:55,667 --> 00:59:58,834
and that would just
through the day
1004
00:59:58,834 --> 01:00:00,291
just get worse and worse.
1005
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,792
I could work a whole day
with no pain,
1006
01:00:03,792 --> 01:00:06,458
and I just was able
to rock along
1007
01:00:07,083 --> 01:00:09,625
very well for a couple years.
1008
01:00:10,417 --> 01:00:14,500
Then the doses escalated
and it became compulsive using.
1009
01:00:15,208 --> 01:00:16,917
You move from Hydrocodone
1010
01:00:17,291 --> 01:00:21,333
to Oxycodone, which is
one and a half times as strong.
1011
01:00:21,834 --> 01:00:24,166
And then you get to
where that's not working
1012
01:00:24,458 --> 01:00:25,750
and you move to Oxycontin.
1013
01:00:26,250 --> 01:00:28,417
And then you get to
where that's not working,
1014
01:00:28,417 --> 01:00:29,667
and you add, you know,
1015
01:00:29,917 --> 01:00:32,333
some Oxycodone short-acting
for breakthrough.
1016
01:00:32,792 --> 01:00:34,041
And then that's not working,
1017
01:00:34,542 --> 01:00:38,083
and then you move to
drugs like Fentanyl
and Methadone.
1018
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:54,125
MEL POHL: As I think back
to Dr. Dan's case,
1019
01:00:54,125 --> 01:00:56,208
if he would have been
willing to give up
1020
01:00:56,208 --> 01:00:58,000
his ability
to practice medicine
1021
01:00:58,458 --> 01:01:01,041
in order to be able
to take drugs to relieve pain,
1022
01:01:01,250 --> 01:01:03,333
that's pathological
pursuit of relief.
1023
01:01:03,959 --> 01:01:05,500
POHL: Some deep breaths
for me, please.
1024
01:01:05,792 --> 01:01:07,542
The conclusion of our team was
1025
01:01:07,709 --> 01:01:09,375
that he had the disease
of addiction
1026
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,208
driven by his chronic
pain condition.
1027
01:01:19,959 --> 01:01:24,041
The only way
I can bring good of this hell
1028
01:01:24,041 --> 01:01:25,709
is to help somebody else.
1029
01:01:27,125 --> 01:01:30,583
I had to find a way
to treat folks with my illness,
1030
01:01:30,917 --> 01:01:34,250
but who couldn't afford
to go to treatment for a month.
1031
01:01:40,208 --> 01:01:43,083
And I knew the only solution
was to get them off
1032
01:01:43,083 --> 01:01:44,083
of the opioids.
1033
01:01:44,417 --> 01:01:45,792
When was your last dose of Oxy?
1034
01:01:45,792 --> 01:01:47,458
Um, about an hour
and a half ago.
1035
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,875
EDNEY: And I knew that
I had to detox them
1036
01:01:50,875 --> 01:01:53,041
as an outpatient
in an affordable fashion
1037
01:01:53,041 --> 01:01:54,792
where they could keep working.
1038
01:01:55,125 --> 01:01:57,709
And so I knew I had to use
beprenorphine.
1039
01:01:57,709 --> 01:01:59,000
NURSE: Blood pressure good.
1040
01:01:59,291 --> 01:02:02,625
EDNEY: Beprenorphine
makes the conversion off opioids
1041
01:02:02,625 --> 01:02:03,834
so much easier.
1042
01:02:04,291 --> 01:02:06,583
Their quality of life improves,
they start eating again,
1043
01:02:06,583 --> 01:02:08,000
and they start
functioning again,
1044
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,000
they start
thinking clearly again.
1045
01:02:10,333 --> 01:02:12,709
And the families have
their loved ones back.
1046
01:02:13,291 --> 01:02:14,291
How are you today?
1047
01:02:14,834 --> 01:02:18,750
You're still getting pain relief
with your beprenorphine?
1048
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:20,458
-No, yes, sir. Yes, sir.
-EDNEY: Okay.
1049
01:02:20,458 --> 01:02:21,750
It's worth a lot to me.
1050
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:23,500
I mean,
I can tell a big difference.
1051
01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:26,375
I'm doing normal stuff
with my kids, uh,
1052
01:02:26,375 --> 01:02:27,291
going fishing.
1053
01:02:27,875 --> 01:02:29,291
You know, me and my wife
went fishing last weekend.
1054
01:02:29,291 --> 01:02:30,792
And just, you know,
do my meditation
1055
01:02:30,792 --> 01:02:33,375
and, you know, I do my stretches
and my exercises.
1056
01:02:33,375 --> 01:02:34,500
I get my mind focused.
1057
01:02:34,875 --> 01:02:36,917
I mean, I understand now
that I'm gonna have pain.
1058
01:02:36,917 --> 01:02:38,834
I mean, it's just
a part of life.
1059
01:03:14,667 --> 01:03:16,041
In the midst
of an epidemic,
1060
01:03:16,041 --> 01:03:18,875
where overdoses on opioids
1061
01:03:18,875 --> 01:03:21,750
are now a leading cause of death
in the United States,
1062
01:03:22,166 --> 01:03:25,291
it's a no brainer
that we should be making
1063
01:03:25,291 --> 01:03:27,542
an antidote for
an opioid overdose
1064
01:03:27,542 --> 01:03:32,208
like Narcan or naloxone
as available as possible.
1065
01:03:36,125 --> 01:03:38,583
NORA VOLKOW: What happens is
you have your receptor,
1066
01:03:38,583 --> 01:03:40,417
you have your drug
like heroin
1067
01:03:40,417 --> 01:03:42,583
or Fentanyl, say, for example.
1068
01:03:43,166 --> 01:03:45,542
Then the drug, morphine,
Fentanyl,
1069
01:03:45,542 --> 01:03:48,375
are inhibiting
the respiratory centers.
1070
01:03:48,709 --> 01:03:50,375
So there you give Narcan,
1071
01:03:50,375 --> 01:03:53,542
and Narcan comes in
and pushes that drug out,
1072
01:03:53,542 --> 01:03:56,375
does not allow for
the drug to come back in.
1073
01:03:56,792 --> 01:03:58,750
Therefore,
the respiratory center
1074
01:03:58,750 --> 01:04:01,041
is no longer inhibited.
That's how it works.
1075
01:04:01,041 --> 01:04:04,709
ANDREW KOLODNY:
You inject the patient
with naloxone.
1076
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:08,250
MECHANICAL VOICE:
Five, four, three...
1077
01:04:08,250 --> 01:04:10,250
KOLODNY: You squirt it
up their nose,
1078
01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:13,375
it kicks the opioid
off the receptor,
1079
01:04:13,375 --> 01:04:15,417
and the patient starts
breathing again,
1080
01:04:15,417 --> 01:04:16,417
and their color comes back.
1081
01:04:16,875 --> 01:04:20,083
Our strategy has been
to deliver products
1082
01:04:20,083 --> 01:04:25,959
that will make naloxone
as widely available as possible.
1083
01:04:25,959 --> 01:04:28,250
We should see that it's in
every household
1084
01:04:28,250 --> 01:04:30,417
where somebody might have
opioid addition.
1085
01:04:30,709 --> 01:04:33,083
Hospitals, college dorms,
1086
01:04:33,083 --> 01:04:34,834
and maybe even high schools.
1087
01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:36,917
Any possible setting
1088
01:04:37,250 --> 01:04:39,458
where somebody might be
opioid-addicted.
1089
01:04:39,667 --> 01:04:42,125
We are focusing on naloxone
so heavily
1090
01:04:42,125 --> 01:04:44,583
because I would have loved
to have had it
1091
01:04:44,583 --> 01:04:46,625
when my brother Alex
were experiencing
1092
01:04:46,625 --> 01:04:48,000
what he was going through.
1093
01:04:53,834 --> 01:04:57,083
When we first decided
to focus on naloxone,
1094
01:04:57,417 --> 01:04:58,834
people were literally like,
1095
01:04:59,250 --> 01:05:01,959
"So we're gonna enable people
to keep using drugs?
1096
01:05:01,959 --> 01:05:03,333
That's what we're doing now?"
1097
01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:05,834
Well, maybe if we
do revive them,
1098
01:05:06,208 --> 01:05:07,667
we have an opportunity
to intervene.
1099
01:05:07,667 --> 01:05:09,625
Maybe they don't want to
live that life anymore.
1100
01:05:09,625 --> 01:05:14,250
It's so important if you are
doing a reversal of an overdose
1101
01:05:14,625 --> 01:05:17,125
to refer that patient
to treatment
1102
01:05:17,125 --> 01:05:18,792
for their
substance use disorders.
1103
01:05:18,792 --> 01:05:23,500
Intervening and linking to care
is what we are promoting.
1104
01:05:23,667 --> 01:05:27,750
Recognizing that it is
a very serious
1105
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:29,542
and chronic disease,
1106
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,750
where the likelihood of relapse
is actually quite high.
1107
01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:35,333
Just because it doesn't
happen the first time
1108
01:05:35,542 --> 01:05:37,417
doesn't mean it can't happen
the fourth or the fifth time.
1109
01:05:37,417 --> 01:05:39,542
Because I have so many
people in my life
1110
01:05:39,542 --> 01:05:42,709
who have been revived
several times by naloxone,
1111
01:05:43,166 --> 01:05:44,583
and they're out there
doing great things
1112
01:05:44,583 --> 01:05:46,000
with their lives.
1113
01:06:25,875 --> 01:06:28,750
GARY MENDELL: When he went
to college the first year,
1114
01:06:29,709 --> 01:06:32,667
I suspect he may have been
exposed to opiates.
1115
01:06:34,709 --> 01:06:37,208
And I think that's where
it started, in college.
1116
01:06:40,709 --> 01:06:43,041
Brian went to eight different
treatment programs.
1117
01:06:43,333 --> 01:06:44,792
In the eighth program
he went to,
1118
01:06:45,417 --> 01:06:47,625
the psychiatrist called us
after a couple days
1119
01:06:47,625 --> 01:06:49,417
and said, "I want to put Brian
on Suboxone."
1120
01:06:49,625 --> 01:06:51,125
MENDELL: It was the only
treatment program
1121
01:06:51,417 --> 01:06:53,250
that he ever called and said,
"Dad, can I stay longer?"
1122
01:06:53,250 --> 01:06:54,750
He said, "They really get it."
1123
01:06:54,959 --> 01:06:57,667
And he had gone a year
without using.
1124
01:06:58,250 --> 01:07:00,208
Then they recommended
that he go out
1125
01:07:00,208 --> 01:07:01,291
to a halfway house,
1126
01:07:01,583 --> 01:07:03,208
and it was really hard
to find a place
1127
01:07:03,208 --> 01:07:05,000
that would take someone
on Suboxone.
1128
01:07:05,291 --> 01:07:09,625
We found a place in Venice Beach
out in Los Angeles.
1129
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,709
Brian was there two days,
and I get a call from--
1130
01:07:13,709 --> 01:07:15,083
a frantic call from him.
1131
01:07:15,083 --> 01:07:17,375
He said, "Dad, I just met
with a psychiatrist.
1132
01:07:17,375 --> 01:07:18,792
I walked in and he said,
1133
01:07:18,792 --> 01:07:20,250
'Oh, I see you're on
Suboxone.
1134
01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:22,375
I don't believe in it.
You have to get off.'"
1135
01:07:32,792 --> 01:07:35,542
Abstinence-based approaches
1136
01:07:35,959 --> 01:07:40,500
don't work very well
for opioid addiction.
1137
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:43,375
Most patients who are
addicted to opioids
1138
01:07:43,375 --> 01:07:46,041
are going to need to be
managed with a medicine
1139
01:07:46,041 --> 01:07:49,125
like buprenorphine,
which is also called Suboxone.
1140
01:07:49,333 --> 01:07:52,792
There are three different types
of medication assisted therapy.
1141
01:07:53,166 --> 01:07:57,291
The one that's most known
for... to everyone is methadone.
1142
01:07:57,667 --> 01:07:59,709
Uh, second one is buprenorphine,
1143
01:07:59,917 --> 01:08:04,208
and a more recent development
is extended release naltrexone.
1144
01:08:04,208 --> 01:08:08,417
Those treatments are
unfortunately seen by some
1145
01:08:08,625 --> 01:08:10,500
as not really treatment.
1146
01:08:10,875 --> 01:08:15,000
That it's just substituting
one drug for another.
1147
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,166
It's a very common reaction
to it, is you are changing
1148
01:08:18,166 --> 01:08:19,750
one drug for the other.
1149
01:08:19,750 --> 01:08:21,375
So how are you
helping the patient?
1150
01:08:21,583 --> 01:08:24,542
Instead of heroin,
now they are on buprenorphine.
1151
01:08:25,125 --> 01:08:28,000
Without an understanding
that actually
1152
01:08:28,291 --> 01:08:30,750
the effects of buprenorphine
or methadone
1153
01:08:30,750 --> 01:08:33,291
are different from
the effects of heroin.
1154
01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:36,291
ANDREW KOLODNY: It's kind of
like putting a nicotine patch
1155
01:08:36,500 --> 01:08:38,583
on a smoker.
They're not thinking about
1156
01:08:38,583 --> 01:08:40,291
"when am I gonna have
my next cigarette,"
1157
01:08:40,542 --> 01:08:42,667
because they're getting
a little bit of nicotine
1158
01:08:42,667 --> 01:08:44,166
in their-- their bloodstream.
1159
01:08:44,417 --> 01:08:48,500
Somebody's who's opioid addicted
and takes their buprenorphine
1160
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,583
gets enough of a response
from that drug
1161
01:08:52,583 --> 01:08:55,125
that their cravings
are well controlled,
1162
01:08:55,375 --> 01:08:58,875
and they don't experience
the physical withdrawal.
1163
01:09:08,542 --> 01:09:11,500
You have a situation where
1164
01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:13,917
middle class,
working class families
1165
01:09:14,208 --> 01:09:17,417
have a loved one suffering
from opioid addiction.
1166
01:09:17,834 --> 01:09:20,875
In some cases, they're
emptying out their bank account
1167
01:09:21,250 --> 01:09:26,500
to send their family member
to a 28-day rehab somewhere,
1168
01:09:26,792 --> 01:09:30,375
and then their family member
comes back out of rehab
1169
01:09:30,375 --> 01:09:32,667
and within a week relapses.
1170
01:09:32,959 --> 01:09:36,083
I want families to know
that addiction is a disease,
1171
01:09:36,417 --> 01:09:38,583
that it is a chronic disease,
1172
01:09:38,583 --> 01:09:42,458
which means that the changes
in the brain produced by drugs
1173
01:09:42,458 --> 01:09:44,041
are very long lasting,
1174
01:09:44,250 --> 01:09:46,792
and actually last months
or years
1175
01:09:46,792 --> 01:09:49,250
after the person
stops taking the drug.
1176
01:09:49,250 --> 01:09:51,250
But I also want
to tell the families
1177
01:09:51,250 --> 01:09:52,917
that addiction can be treated,
1178
01:09:53,250 --> 01:09:57,750
and that it will for success
require continuity of treatment.
1179
01:09:57,750 --> 01:10:01,500
That it needs to be treated
like a chronic disease
1180
01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:02,417
that it is.
1181
01:10:03,125 --> 01:10:07,250
And that recovery is possible
if you institute treatment.
1182
01:10:46,792 --> 01:10:50,125
DANIEL EDNEY: I was taught
in the mid to late eighties
1183
01:10:50,125 --> 01:10:53,959
that opiates and opioids
were used for acute pain,
1184
01:10:53,959 --> 01:10:56,458
for acute injuries
like a broken bone,
1185
01:10:56,458 --> 01:10:59,417
for postoperative pain which
is acute and self-limited.
1186
01:10:59,417 --> 01:11:01,875
All the acute pain syndromes
that you expect
1187
01:11:01,875 --> 01:11:04,125
to be under control
within two weeks.
1188
01:11:04,333 --> 01:11:06,250
Opioids are
the drug of choice.
1189
01:11:06,250 --> 01:11:09,625
They work wonderfully well.
It's why they were designed.
1190
01:11:09,625 --> 01:11:10,959
I mean, I'm shaking.
1191
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:15,208
JANE BALLANTYNE:
We used opiates generously
for people who are dying,
1192
01:11:15,208 --> 01:11:18,959
and very generously
for people who had acute pain,
1193
01:11:19,166 --> 01:11:22,041
people who'd had surgery,
people who'd had trauma.
1194
01:11:22,417 --> 01:11:26,709
We'd never used opiates at all
for people with chronic pain.
1195
01:11:29,333 --> 01:11:31,750
EDNEY: Something big happened
in the mid-nineties
1196
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:33,542
with the release of Oxycontin.
1197
01:11:33,542 --> 01:11:35,291
Uh, we were re-educated,
1198
01:11:35,291 --> 01:11:36,959
and what we were taught
in medical school
1199
01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:38,667
and residency was incorrect,
1200
01:11:39,041 --> 01:11:42,458
that the risk of addiction
in the chronic pain population
1201
01:11:42,458 --> 01:11:46,333
was virtually zero as long
as they had legitimate pain.
1202
01:11:46,333 --> 01:11:50,709
When Purdue Pharma launched
Oxycontin,
1203
01:11:51,208 --> 01:11:53,250
it was interested
in a blockbuster drug.
1204
01:11:53,542 --> 01:11:56,834
Some patients may be afraid
of taking opioids
1205
01:11:56,834 --> 01:11:59,000
because they're perceived
as too strong,
1206
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,834
or addictive. But that is far
from actual fact.
1207
01:12:03,375 --> 01:12:07,792
They launched a brilliant
campaign that re-framed
1208
01:12:07,792 --> 01:12:10,709
all of these very good reasons
for being cautious
1209
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:15,166
with opioids as barriers
to compassionate pain care.
1210
01:12:15,875 --> 01:12:18,750
The Joint Commission sets
the rules for hospitals
1211
01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:21,000
in the United States
that they have to follow,
1212
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,417
and the Joint Commission
was told that we're
1213
01:12:23,417 --> 01:12:27,041
under-treating pain,
and then agreed to create
1214
01:12:27,041 --> 01:12:30,792
new rules so that every patient
who comes to a hospital
1215
01:12:31,083 --> 01:12:33,458
would be asked
about their pain.
1216
01:12:37,959 --> 01:12:40,458
The opioid crisis
had really been caused
1217
01:12:40,458 --> 01:12:43,000
by the medical community
writing too many
1218
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,750
opioid prescriptions,
1219
01:12:44,750 --> 01:12:49,083
and we realized that opioids
were being over-prescribed
1220
01:12:49,083 --> 01:12:52,625
because our colleagues
had been badly misinformed,
1221
01:12:52,625 --> 01:12:56,291
and you're starting to see
policy-makers ask
1222
01:12:56,583 --> 01:12:59,166
why every grandma's
got painkillers
1223
01:12:59,166 --> 01:13:00,709
in her medicine chest.
1224
01:13:00,959 --> 01:13:04,208
You're starting to finally see
recognition that
1225
01:13:04,208 --> 01:13:05,750
it's an addiction epidemic.
1226
01:13:10,375 --> 01:13:15,875
We can stop the initiation
of inappropriate opiate use
1227
01:13:16,166 --> 01:13:19,750
in its tracks by following
the new CDC guidelines,
1228
01:13:19,959 --> 01:13:24,083
by... using very little
opioids, if any,
1229
01:13:24,417 --> 01:13:25,542
for acute pain.
1230
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,875
So if you have a wisdom tooth
extracted, or if you have
1231
01:13:27,875 --> 01:13:30,458
a sports injury, you go
to the urgent care center
1232
01:13:30,458 --> 01:13:33,667
or your doctor, no more
than three days or ten pills
1233
01:13:33,667 --> 01:13:36,375
of an opioid,
of a short-acting opioid.
1234
01:13:36,375 --> 01:13:38,166
This is the worst
man-made epidemic
1235
01:13:38,166 --> 01:13:41,208
in modern medical history,
and it's up to all of us
1236
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:43,542
as healthcare leaders
and clinicians
1237
01:13:43,542 --> 01:13:46,333
to reverse this thing.
We need to do it now.
1238
01:13:46,667 --> 01:13:48,834
We needed to do it
ten years ago.
1239
01:14:15,166 --> 01:14:17,417
We have about ten
to twelve million Americans
1240
01:14:17,417 --> 01:14:20,041
who have been put
on long-term opioids.
1241
01:14:20,417 --> 01:14:22,667
The best available evidence
is telling us that
1242
01:14:22,667 --> 01:14:23,917
they're not doing well.
1243
01:14:24,208 --> 01:14:27,041
Many have had a decline
in their function
1244
01:14:27,500 --> 01:14:29,083
and their pain has
not improved.
1245
01:14:29,083 --> 01:14:31,500
Maybe their pain
has gotten worse.
1246
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,875
So very, very high doses
of opiates
1247
01:14:33,875 --> 01:14:35,875
can actually produce pain.
1248
01:14:35,875 --> 01:14:37,500
So instead of
making pain better,
1249
01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:38,917
they actually make pain worse.
1250
01:14:39,208 --> 01:14:42,083
Most common chronic pain
conditions that are currently
1251
01:14:42,083 --> 01:14:44,959
treated with opiates
probably shouldn't be treated
1252
01:14:44,959 --> 01:14:47,375
with opiates at all,
other than possibly
1253
01:14:47,583 --> 01:14:50,625
for three days
of an acute attack.
1254
01:14:51,041 --> 01:14:53,792
So, for example,
a back sprain injury.
1255
01:14:54,041 --> 01:14:56,208
Use opiates for three days,
get moving again,
1256
01:14:56,208 --> 01:14:59,750
and then stop completely,
just like the CDC recommends.
1257
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,125
The question we're
often asked...
1258
01:15:01,125 --> 01:15:03,417
"If not opioids, what then?"
1259
01:15:04,083 --> 01:15:08,542
And we need, as physicians,
to have lots
1260
01:15:08,542 --> 01:15:10,250
of "what then" answers.
1261
01:15:10,250 --> 01:15:13,667
We know they do much better
with simple things
1262
01:15:13,959 --> 01:15:15,000
like exercise.
1263
01:15:15,375 --> 01:15:18,166
Yoga and acupuncture
and massage...
1264
01:15:18,166 --> 01:15:20,208
Behavioral, physical therapy.
1265
01:15:20,667 --> 01:15:22,250
Spiritual support
for a person
1266
01:15:22,250 --> 01:15:25,125
to renavigate their life,
uh, and to take control
1267
01:15:25,125 --> 01:15:28,250
over this sensation of pain.
1268
01:15:28,250 --> 01:15:30,667
You have to take care
of a complex problem
1269
01:15:30,667 --> 01:15:35,083
with a complex solution,
which is not gonna come
1270
01:15:35,083 --> 01:15:36,583
in the form of a pill.
1271
01:16:08,208 --> 01:16:10,000
DETECTIVE MICHAEL DILLON:
Here in Northern New Jersey,
1272
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,083
we've seen a spike in the number
of accidental overdoses.
1273
01:16:13,834 --> 01:16:16,000
Tonight we're doing
Operation Take Back,
1274
01:16:16,667 --> 01:16:20,458
so unwanted prescriptions can be
anonymously disposed of.
1275
01:16:21,875 --> 01:16:24,333
When you put unwanted
medications into the garbage,
1276
01:16:24,333 --> 01:16:26,834
you risk either having them
stolen from their garbage
1277
01:16:27,041 --> 01:16:29,792
or taken by an individual who's
in their house.
1278
01:16:29,792 --> 01:16:30,875
Could be a family member.
1279
01:16:31,417 --> 01:16:33,166
Somebody during a
real estate open house.
1280
01:16:34,083 --> 01:16:36,000
Anonymously drop the medication,
1281
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,250
and what we do is periodically
collect it and bring it
1282
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:42,667
through armed escort
to a incinerator.
1283
01:16:42,667 --> 01:16:45,709
Where the medications are all
incinerated and destroyed.
1284
01:16:48,041 --> 01:16:49,917
JOHN G. WAFFENSCHMIDT:
When we started this program,
1285
01:16:49,917 --> 01:16:52,333
energy-from-waste,
it was because
1286
01:16:52,333 --> 01:16:55,500
the pharmaceutical drugs were
going into waterways.
1287
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:59,333
Eighty percent of waterways have
pharmaceutical agents in it.
1288
01:16:59,333 --> 01:17:00,458
It affects the fish.
1289
01:17:00,917 --> 01:17:02,917
So what we want to do is
encourage people
1290
01:17:02,917 --> 01:17:04,667
not to flush them
down the toilet.
1291
01:17:04,667 --> 01:17:07,792
Because once it's burned,
there's no chance at all
1292
01:17:07,792 --> 01:17:11,208
for groundwater or
surface water contamination.
1293
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,041
OFFICER GARY MANKOWITZ: I'm very
happy with our department
1294
01:17:14,041 --> 01:17:15,917
participating in this
great program,
1295
01:17:15,917 --> 01:17:17,500
because we are saving lives.
1296
01:17:17,500 --> 01:17:20,709
Every time somebody dumps this
into our mailbox
1297
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:21,709
and we clean it out,
1298
01:17:22,250 --> 01:17:24,500
that's somebody who's
protecting their children
1299
01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:26,291
from getting it.
Their grandchildren.
1300
01:17:26,291 --> 01:17:29,083
Their sisters. Brothers.
It could be anybody.
1301
01:17:29,083 --> 01:17:30,083
It's insane,
1302
01:17:30,625 --> 01:17:32,208
the amount of prescriptions
that are out there,
1303
01:17:32,208 --> 01:17:34,542
and how easily they are
prescribed to people.
1304
01:18:08,959 --> 01:18:11,959
This crisis, is in my view,
1305
01:18:12,166 --> 01:18:16,250
the single public health crisis
we face as a country.
1306
01:18:16,250 --> 01:18:18,125
I worked with my legislature
1307
01:18:18,125 --> 01:18:21,083
to put in a number of different
pieces of legislation
1308
01:18:21,083 --> 01:18:22,250
to stem this epidemic.
1309
01:18:22,750 --> 01:18:25,875
One in particular, which was
a bit controversial at the time,
1310
01:18:25,875 --> 01:18:27,875
but we were successful in
passing it,
1311
01:18:27,875 --> 01:18:30,375
was limiting the number of doses
1312
01:18:30,667 --> 01:18:35,500
that physicians can prescribe
in the first instance for, uh...
1313
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:37,000
prescription painkillers.
1314
01:18:37,458 --> 01:18:40,000
It shouldn't be the case that
it's an automatic 30 days
1315
01:18:40,291 --> 01:18:44,667
of OxyContin, or an automatic
60 days. We said it should be...
1316
01:18:44,667 --> 01:18:45,792
five or six days.
1317
01:18:46,333 --> 01:18:48,500
And then check in with the
physician and let the physician
1318
01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:50,333
have discretion to do
what comes next.
1319
01:18:50,625 --> 01:18:53,250
Because we're really trying to
cut down on...
1320
01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:56,125
a leftover half a bottle of
pills, which goes to a friend.
1321
01:18:56,125 --> 01:18:58,750
That person gets hooked and that
person winds up addicted.
1322
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,834
We...provided funding
to make sure that
1323
01:19:06,834 --> 01:19:09,417
all first responders in
Rhode Island,
1324
01:19:09,417 --> 01:19:13,291
in every single city and town,
have access to naloxone.
1325
01:19:13,709 --> 01:19:15,583
The colonel of the state police
and I...
1326
01:19:15,834 --> 01:19:18,333
literally passed out in
paper bags...
1327
01:19:18,583 --> 01:19:22,166
naloxone to every police chief.
1328
01:19:22,375 --> 01:19:24,333
Every single city and town
in Rhode Island.
1329
01:19:29,333 --> 01:19:31,458
This is a disease.
We know how to treat it.
1330
01:19:31,458 --> 01:19:33,792
We have a huge effort
in Rhode Island,
1331
01:19:33,792 --> 01:19:36,333
and we're starting to
see some success
1332
01:19:36,333 --> 01:19:37,709
training physicians...
1333
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,667
to... know how to do the
medical assisted treatment.
1334
01:19:42,083 --> 01:19:45,250
It costs money. And a lot of
folks are on Medicaid.
1335
01:19:45,250 --> 01:19:47,917
If the federal government
cuts off our Medicaid,
1336
01:19:48,166 --> 01:19:50,834
and reduces our ability
to treat folks
1337
01:19:50,834 --> 01:19:52,583
with
medical assisted treatment...
1338
01:19:53,083 --> 01:19:55,208
we will lose lives.
It's that simple.
1339
01:19:55,208 --> 01:19:58,542
There's no more important thing
that a governor could be
working on than this.
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