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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:48,125 --> 00:00:52,083 Man: Lyle! Get up, Lyle! 4 00:00:52,083 --> 00:00:53,500 Get up. 5 00:00:59,458 --> 00:01:01,917 Man: Facebook Live, he found her passed out, man. 6 00:01:01,917 --> 00:01:04,458 He found her passed out on her face... (indistinct). 7 00:01:06,333 --> 00:01:08,792 I don't know. But he might be dead, bro. Hold on, bro. 8 00:01:08,792 --> 00:01:11,125 (woman speaking indistinctly) Yeah, hold on, fool. 9 00:01:11,125 --> 00:01:12,625 He might-- might be dead, jack. 10 00:01:20,667 --> 00:01:23,166 Alan Spanos: We doctors were wrong in thinking 11 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:25,667 that opioids can't be used long-term. 12 00:01:25,667 --> 00:01:28,000 They can be and they should be. 13 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,291 We used to think they'd stop working 14 00:01:30,291 --> 00:01:32,166 or that patients would become addicts 15 00:01:32,166 --> 00:01:34,291 or that they'd be sedated into inactivity. 16 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,125 Spanos: We now find that these medicines are much safer, 17 00:01:40,125 --> 00:01:43,333 much more powerful, much more versatile than we used to think, 18 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:46,125 and we feel that they should be used much more liberally 19 00:01:46,125 --> 00:01:48,041 for people with all sorts of chronic pain. 20 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:53,834 Man: Some patients may be afraid of taking opioids 21 00:01:53,834 --> 00:01:58,083 because they're perceived as too strong, or addictive... 22 00:01:58,083 --> 00:02:01,083 but that is far from actual fact. 23 00:02:01,083 --> 00:02:05,208 Less than one percent of patients taking opioids 24 00:02:05,208 --> 00:02:06,709 actually become addicted. 25 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:09,291 Man: She's making noises. 26 00:02:09,291 --> 00:02:11,625 She's making noises. Yo! 27 00:02:11,625 --> 00:02:14,458 Woman: She's breathing. She's-- Come on, baby. 28 00:02:14,458 --> 00:02:16,125 Man: Breathing? Woman: Yeah. She's... 29 00:02:16,125 --> 00:02:18,750 She's trying to-- Come on, girl. 30 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:21,500 Come on, Jerry, wake up. 31 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:23,250 Jerry, wake up! Look at me. 32 00:02:23,250 --> 00:02:25,333 Look at me, Jerry. 33 00:02:25,333 --> 00:02:26,875 Officer: Jerry, look at me! Come on! 34 00:02:35,166 --> 00:02:37,417 Man: Wake up, girl! There you are! Man 2: Woo-hoo! 35 00:02:37,417 --> 00:02:39,375 Stay with us. Hang on. Stay with us. 36 00:02:39,375 --> 00:02:41,792 High five, you're alive. You're fine. You're okay. 37 00:02:41,792 --> 00:02:43,625 Man: You all right? You with us? 38 00:02:43,625 --> 00:02:45,500 You doing okay? 39 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:48,083 Hey, stay with me, man. Stay with me. 40 00:02:48,083 --> 00:02:50,375 Man: Can you wake up? Woman: Are you gonna be okay? 41 00:02:50,375 --> 00:02:52,417 Is she okay? 42 00:02:52,417 --> 00:02:55,583 Man: Yo, she's overdosing. Like, what the fuck, man? 43 00:02:56,917 --> 00:02:58,125 Man: Wake up! Man 2: Hey! 44 00:03:01,375 --> 00:03:04,000 Man: Wake up, wake up! 45 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Wake up, boy! 46 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,792 Get water, get water, get water! 47 00:03:07,792 --> 00:03:10,166 Man 2: Pour water on her first. 48 00:03:10,166 --> 00:03:12,250 Man: Want him too? Man 2: Fuck it, man, 'cause... 49 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,041 Man: I know. Man 2: Anything could've happened. 50 00:03:18,208 --> 00:03:21,458 (child crying) Mommy... Mommy! 51 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:24,542 Man: Oh my God. 52 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:28,750 Mommy! (crying) 53 00:03:28,750 --> 00:03:30,000 Mommy! 54 00:03:45,417 --> 00:03:48,125 Newsman: Law enforcement says they have never seen abuse 55 00:03:48,125 --> 00:03:51,750 of a prescription drug mushroom out of control so fast. 56 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:54,709 Newsman 2: These drugs all belong to a family of drugs called opioids. 57 00:03:54,709 --> 00:03:57,458 Woman: And prescription painkillers lead to heroin. 58 00:03:57,458 --> 00:04:01,041 Newswoman: It is a narcotic, closely related to heroin and morphine 59 00:04:01,041 --> 00:04:02,959 with the same potential for addiction. 60 00:04:19,291 --> 00:04:22,709 Stephany Gay: If somebody'd told me six years ago 61 00:04:22,709 --> 00:04:24,917 that I was going to be a heroin addict, 62 00:04:24,917 --> 00:04:27,458 I would have thought that they were crazy. 63 00:04:28,667 --> 00:04:30,875 Never in a million years. 64 00:04:31,917 --> 00:04:34,500 I didn't hang out with bad kids. 65 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:36,166 I didn't get in trouble. 66 00:04:36,166 --> 00:04:41,000 I-I just would have never ever thought that it could happen to me. 67 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,625 When I was about 16, 68 00:04:43,625 --> 00:04:46,000 I started getting kidney stones, 69 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,959 and they would give me pain medication for it, 70 00:04:48,959 --> 00:04:52,208 because that's pretty much all that they could do. 71 00:04:52,208 --> 00:04:55,208 Kathy Kelly: The X-rays would show the kidney stones. 72 00:04:55,208 --> 00:04:56,834 There was no faking it, nothing. 73 00:04:56,834 --> 00:05:00,375 I mean, here is a child, 15, 16... 74 00:05:00,375 --> 00:05:02,375 that was about the age she started getting 'em, 75 00:05:02,375 --> 00:05:06,291 um, and she's getting 'em every-- few times a year. 76 00:05:06,291 --> 00:05:09,458 Stephany: They gave me a shot of Dilaudid, 77 00:05:09,458 --> 00:05:11,500 which is a very strong painkiller. 78 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:14,000 And then I remember them sending me home, 79 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,709 with a prescription of Oxycontin 80 00:05:15,709 --> 00:05:18,208 and a prescription of Vicodin. 81 00:05:18,208 --> 00:05:20,041 Kelly: And I remember thinking at that time, 82 00:05:20,041 --> 00:05:25,667 "Wow, those are kind of high-powered medications for such a young person," 83 00:05:25,667 --> 00:05:28,792 but I trusted the doctors. 84 00:05:28,792 --> 00:05:31,458 Stephany: In the beginning, I would just take my Vicodin 85 00:05:31,458 --> 00:05:34,333 as prescribed when I was in pain, 86 00:05:34,333 --> 00:05:38,458 but it, like, gradually got worse over time. 87 00:05:38,458 --> 00:05:42,959 It numbed my feelings and made me feel like... 88 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:44,792 okay about everything. 89 00:05:44,792 --> 00:05:47,709 You know, "I'm fine. I'm-- I'm good." 90 00:05:49,041 --> 00:05:51,333 You know, I would take an extra one here or there, 91 00:05:51,333 --> 00:05:53,959 and then, if I ran out, I would just pretend 92 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:56,750 like I didn't know what was wrong with me, so that I could get more. 93 00:05:56,750 --> 00:06:00,917 You know, faking pain to go to the hospital to get painkillers. 94 00:06:00,917 --> 00:06:02,917 I mean, it would be anything from Oxycontin, 95 00:06:02,917 --> 00:06:05,667 to Vicodin to Norcos. 96 00:06:05,667 --> 00:06:08,750 Then it went from taking the prescribed dose 97 00:06:08,750 --> 00:06:10,583 of like one every six hours 98 00:06:10,583 --> 00:06:13,542 to taking, like, 20 Norcos a day. 99 00:06:13,542 --> 00:06:16,583 I'm going through a month prescription in two days. 100 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:19,625 And I called my mom crying, and I was like, "I don't know what's wrong with me." 101 00:06:19,625 --> 00:06:22,458 "Mom... I can't stop taking these, 102 00:06:22,458 --> 00:06:24,917 'cause when I stop taking them, I don't feel good." 103 00:06:24,917 --> 00:06:27,250 I said, "Well, we need to talk to your doctor." 104 00:06:27,250 --> 00:06:31,125 And he wrote me another prescription for Percocets, 105 00:06:31,125 --> 00:06:35,792 which was stronger than the Norcos that I had been taking. 106 00:06:37,709 --> 00:06:40,458 My sister, Ashley... 107 00:06:40,458 --> 00:06:43,834 she was the closest person to me in this whole world. 108 00:06:43,834 --> 00:06:45,917 We did everything together. 109 00:06:45,917 --> 00:06:48,959 I would get painkillers, and I'd, like, you know, 110 00:06:48,959 --> 00:06:50,875 when I started getting bad with them 111 00:06:50,875 --> 00:06:54,125 she was curious, because what I did, she did. 112 00:06:54,125 --> 00:06:57,417 So, to go to sleep, she'd be like, "Let me get one of your pills. 113 00:06:57,417 --> 00:07:00,291 Let me get one of your painkillers to go to sleep. Let me get a Vicodin." 114 00:07:00,291 --> 00:07:01,875 And I'd give her one, you know, 115 00:07:01,875 --> 00:07:04,250 and she'd be like, "Oh my gosh, I love this." 116 00:07:04,250 --> 00:07:06,083 Kelly: They would share 'em with each other. 117 00:07:06,083 --> 00:07:09,083 "Oh, I have a headache." "Oh, well, here, you can take one of my pills." 118 00:07:09,083 --> 00:07:11,792 Um... menstrual cramps. 119 00:07:11,792 --> 00:07:14,667 One sister sharing medication with another sister. 120 00:07:14,667 --> 00:07:17,458 Stephany: We'd never been exposed to drugs like that. 121 00:07:17,458 --> 00:07:20,166 We didn't know what could happen, you know? 122 00:07:20,166 --> 00:07:21,834 We just thought, like, 123 00:07:21,834 --> 00:07:25,458 "Well, our doctor started giving us the, you know, 124 00:07:25,458 --> 00:07:27,834 these painkillers, so it can't be that bad." 125 00:07:27,834 --> 00:07:30,500 Well, then he cut her off on 'em, 126 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:32,542 and then she didn't feel good. 127 00:07:32,542 --> 00:07:35,709 Her friends say, "Oh, well, here, I'll give you-- Take mine." 128 00:07:35,709 --> 00:07:41,333 But they became expensive to buy privately from friends, 129 00:07:41,333 --> 00:07:44,875 and the doctors would not give 'em to her anymore. 130 00:07:44,875 --> 00:07:47,917 So, this friend gave her a little bag, 131 00:07:47,917 --> 00:07:49,959 and said, "Just sniff this. 132 00:07:49,959 --> 00:07:52,375 "It'll do the same thing as the pills do, 133 00:07:52,375 --> 00:07:55,458 "only thing, you don't need to take five pills. 134 00:07:55,458 --> 00:07:57,709 "Just take this little bag, sniff it, 135 00:07:57,709 --> 00:07:59,250 and you'll feel better." 136 00:07:59,250 --> 00:08:00,417 And it worked! 137 00:08:00,417 --> 00:08:02,041 She took it and it worked. 138 00:08:02,041 --> 00:08:07,208 I remember thinking, like, "Wow. This is the best feeling in the world." 139 00:08:07,208 --> 00:08:09,417 It was really, like... 140 00:08:09,417 --> 00:08:11,709 I had, like, not a care in the world. 141 00:08:14,417 --> 00:08:17,500 It made me feel like I could do anything. 142 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:20,709 I felt like Super Woman. 143 00:08:20,709 --> 00:08:22,750 It's a lot cheaper than... 144 00:08:22,750 --> 00:08:26,291 buying 15 Norcos a day at five dollars apiece. 145 00:08:26,291 --> 00:08:28,333 You know, "Here's a ten-dollar bag of heroin, 146 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:30,917 and it'll last you three days." 147 00:08:30,917 --> 00:08:34,875 I didn't have anxiety or I didn't feel depressed. 148 00:08:34,875 --> 00:08:38,583 I felt happy, I felt warm. 149 00:08:38,583 --> 00:08:41,166 I felt like it loved me, and I loved it back. 150 00:08:41,166 --> 00:08:44,250 It felt like I was in, like, a relationship with it, 151 00:08:44,250 --> 00:08:47,125 like, I felt like I had a relationship with heroin. 152 00:08:47,125 --> 00:08:50,250 It was just the best feeling in the world. 153 00:08:50,250 --> 00:08:53,500 I snorted heroin for about a year. 154 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:55,458 Me and Ashley both did. 155 00:08:55,458 --> 00:08:56,792 Kelly: They did not know 156 00:08:56,792 --> 00:08:59,625 the scope of the addiction that they were up against, 157 00:08:59,625 --> 00:09:01,083 like a tidal wave. 158 00:09:01,083 --> 00:09:04,458 You know, you're standing on a beach, and you've got this... 159 00:09:04,458 --> 00:09:06,583 50-foot wave coming at you. 160 00:09:06,583 --> 00:09:08,375 And I remember Ashley saying, 161 00:09:08,375 --> 00:09:11,291 "It's not like we're sticking needles in our arms, Mom." 162 00:09:11,291 --> 00:09:12,792 Stephany: "That's for real junkies. 163 00:09:12,792 --> 00:09:14,041 "You know, I'll never do that. 164 00:09:14,041 --> 00:09:15,166 "I'll never touch a needle. 165 00:09:15,166 --> 00:09:17,041 That's disgusting, that's gross." 166 00:09:17,041 --> 00:09:21,333 And somewhere... along that time, 167 00:09:21,333 --> 00:09:23,417 somebody introduced the needle to them. 168 00:09:23,417 --> 00:09:25,875 Stephany: You only have to do a little tiny bit, 169 00:09:25,875 --> 00:09:28,542 and you get, you know, ten times as high, 170 00:09:28,542 --> 00:09:30,959 and it lasts ten times as long, 171 00:09:30,959 --> 00:09:35,291 but then, it, like, gets so out of control so fast. 172 00:09:35,291 --> 00:09:36,709 If I was lucky, you know, 173 00:09:36,709 --> 00:09:39,542 it would only take me ten minutes to hit a vein, 174 00:09:39,542 --> 00:09:41,625 and then I could go lay back down. 175 00:09:41,625 --> 00:09:43,834 I had no veins left. 176 00:09:43,834 --> 00:09:47,000 I mean, in my neck, and the side of my face, 177 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,333 palms of my hands, my fingers, 178 00:09:49,333 --> 00:09:51,166 I mean, like, on my chest, 179 00:09:51,166 --> 00:09:53,166 and I'd be covered in blood. 180 00:09:53,166 --> 00:09:55,000 I would just sleep all day, 181 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 till I woke up from being sick again, 182 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,333 and then I'd have to go through it all over again. 183 00:09:59,333 --> 00:10:02,000 When I started using... 184 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,083 I had my own three-bedroom, two-story house. 185 00:10:05,083 --> 00:10:10,875 I was a stay-at-home Mom with my two-year-old daughter. 186 00:10:10,875 --> 00:10:12,834 Me and my daughter's father, 187 00:10:12,834 --> 00:10:15,333 we each had our own new cars. 188 00:10:15,333 --> 00:10:18,458 We had a pool in our backyard, we had two dogs. 189 00:10:18,458 --> 00:10:22,333 I had, like, the perfect life. 190 00:10:22,333 --> 00:10:25,500 By the time I started injecting heroin, 191 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:27,750 I had lost my house. 192 00:10:27,750 --> 00:10:29,458 We'd sold both of our cars, 193 00:10:29,458 --> 00:10:32,834 and I lost custody of my daughter. 194 00:10:34,792 --> 00:10:37,125 Kelly: I remember Ashley saying, 195 00:10:37,125 --> 00:10:39,875 "I don't want to do this anymore." 196 00:10:39,875 --> 00:10:42,041 It was no longer a party, 197 00:10:42,041 --> 00:10:44,834 and she was a slave to it. 198 00:10:50,834 --> 00:10:54,542 Stephany: She got into a fight with her fiancé, 199 00:10:54,542 --> 00:10:58,709 and she went and got a motel. 200 00:10:58,709 --> 00:11:00,583 I was clean at the time, and I... 201 00:11:00,583 --> 00:11:02,583 I didn't think that she was using. 202 00:11:02,583 --> 00:11:05,583 Kelly: Ashley had been in treatment. 203 00:11:05,583 --> 00:11:08,583 She had stayed in just long enough 204 00:11:08,583 --> 00:11:11,250 to get through the withdrawal period, 205 00:11:11,250 --> 00:11:12,917 and she felt fine, 206 00:11:12,917 --> 00:11:15,500 and then she walked out of treatment early. 207 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:17,458 That's when it can take 'em because they think 208 00:11:17,458 --> 00:11:20,750 that they can use what they were using before. 209 00:11:20,750 --> 00:11:22,875 They say, "Well, I did this much," 210 00:11:22,875 --> 00:11:25,667 um, "so I can handle it," and they can't. 211 00:11:25,667 --> 00:11:27,792 Their body is back to what it was. 212 00:11:28,917 --> 00:11:30,625 And when I would tell my daughter, 213 00:11:30,625 --> 00:11:33,125 "I'm so worried about you, Ashley," 214 00:11:33,125 --> 00:11:34,542 she would say, 215 00:11:34,542 --> 00:11:37,959 "Mom, I'm-- I'm too young, and pretty to die. 216 00:11:37,959 --> 00:11:41,083 I'll be fine. I'm gonna beat this." 217 00:11:41,083 --> 00:11:43,542 Stephany: I think that maybe she thought 218 00:11:43,542 --> 00:11:45,333 she could just do it one more time 219 00:11:45,333 --> 00:11:47,083 and get that really good high, 220 00:11:47,083 --> 00:11:48,917 and then not do it anymore. 221 00:11:48,917 --> 00:11:53,458 And it's like... that one time, you never know. 222 00:11:56,208 --> 00:12:00,000 Stephany: Her fiancé called me, and he was at the motel, 223 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 and she wasn't answering her phone. 224 00:12:03,458 --> 00:12:06,083 Stephany: He called me and he was, like, hysterical. 225 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:10,208 Stephany: He started banging on the doors. 226 00:12:10,208 --> 00:12:12,625 He called 911, and told the operator, 227 00:12:12,625 --> 00:12:14,625 "My girlfriend is a heroin addict. 228 00:12:14,625 --> 00:12:16,417 "She's not answering her phone. 229 00:12:16,417 --> 00:12:17,583 "I know she's in trouble. 230 00:12:17,583 --> 00:12:19,667 Please come to this hotel and help me." 231 00:12:21,458 --> 00:12:22,709 Stephany: I remember where I was at. 232 00:12:22,709 --> 00:12:26,000 I was at the Taco Bell drive thru. 233 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,250 I remember seeing the police station's number come up on my phone. 234 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:33,000 And I remember picking up the phone, 235 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,792 and it being a man's voice. 236 00:12:35,792 --> 00:12:37,709 He was like, "I'm sorry for your loss." 237 00:12:37,709 --> 00:12:39,375 And I was just like... 238 00:12:39,375 --> 00:12:41,917 I was like, "What are you talking about?" 239 00:12:41,917 --> 00:12:43,291 And, um, he's like, 240 00:12:43,291 --> 00:12:46,166 "I need you to come into the police station." 241 00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:48,500 And I just-- I knew. 242 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:49,875 And... 243 00:12:49,875 --> 00:12:53,875 It was like my whole world just, like, stopped. 244 00:12:55,166 --> 00:12:58,500 It was the worst nightmare that anybody could have. 245 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:02,333 I miss her every day. 246 00:13:02,333 --> 00:13:06,500 From morning till night, it's an all-day thing. 247 00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:10,166 Stephany: I was suicidal when I lost my sister. 248 00:13:10,166 --> 00:13:13,041 I would just do massive amounts, 249 00:13:13,041 --> 00:13:15,041 $200 worth of drugs, 250 00:13:15,041 --> 00:13:17,458 in an hour, in a sitting. 251 00:13:17,458 --> 00:13:19,041 Just praying, like, 252 00:13:19,041 --> 00:13:20,750 "Please don't let me wake up. 253 00:13:20,750 --> 00:13:22,583 I don't want to live anymore." 254 00:13:27,125 --> 00:13:29,125 Stephany: She was like a second mom to Audrey. 255 00:13:29,125 --> 00:13:31,208 She acted like Audrey was her daughter. 256 00:13:31,208 --> 00:13:32,709 You know, she would-- 257 00:13:32,709 --> 00:13:36,208 She would take over when I would get stressed or... 258 00:13:36,208 --> 00:13:39,166 Kelly: You two were inseparable. 259 00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:42,041 Stephany: I can never imagine going back to... 260 00:13:42,041 --> 00:13:43,375 living like I was. 261 00:13:43,375 --> 00:13:47,333 I could never imagine going back to... 262 00:13:47,333 --> 00:13:49,875 sticking myself with needles, 263 00:13:49,875 --> 00:13:53,041 15 times a day for hours at a time. 264 00:13:53,041 --> 00:13:57,208 I've been clean for long enough to where... 265 00:13:57,208 --> 00:13:59,250 it scares me, the thought of using, 266 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:02,625 because I know one time could kill me. 267 00:14:02,625 --> 00:14:05,125 This is a crucial time-- 268 00:14:05,125 --> 00:14:07,583 now that you, you have clean time. 269 00:14:07,583 --> 00:14:10,250 She had that, that clean time, 270 00:14:10,250 --> 00:14:12,083 and then she used... 271 00:14:12,083 --> 00:14:13,792 and I feel like you're... 272 00:14:13,792 --> 00:14:17,041 you're right there, and it's so scary. 273 00:14:17,041 --> 00:14:20,417 Anytime I get a call in the middle of the night, 274 00:14:20,417 --> 00:14:22,500 I-I get that gut feeling. 275 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:24,500 Everything tightens up. 276 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:27,625 I couldn't imagine... 277 00:14:27,625 --> 00:14:31,417 putting you through losing another... child. 278 00:15:41,834 --> 00:15:43,417 Britt Doyle: That picture... 279 00:15:43,417 --> 00:15:47,291 was taken when I was, I think, six years old. 280 00:15:47,291 --> 00:15:50,166 I sort of remember that day, like a little bit, 281 00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:53,375 but I remember that that photo was... 282 00:15:53,375 --> 00:15:58,709 in her room always, 'cause she said it was her favorite photo of us, 283 00:15:58,709 --> 00:16:01,125 and I really like it too. (giggles) 284 00:16:01,125 --> 00:16:04,208 This cross... 285 00:16:04,208 --> 00:16:07,875 she gave to me when my parents split up, 286 00:16:07,875 --> 00:16:09,166 because I told-- 287 00:16:09,166 --> 00:16:12,333 I was really sad one day, and I was like... 288 00:16:12,333 --> 00:16:14,667 "Mom, I'm not gonna be able to see you anymore. 289 00:16:14,667 --> 00:16:16,709 I'm not gonna live with you," 290 00:16:16,709 --> 00:16:18,125 and she was like, 291 00:16:18,125 --> 00:16:19,667 "I have the same necklace. 292 00:16:19,667 --> 00:16:21,250 "I'm gonna give you this one, 293 00:16:21,250 --> 00:16:23,625 "and if you wear it, then we're gonna-- 294 00:16:23,625 --> 00:16:25,250 "just know that we're together, 295 00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:27,500 and just know that I'm thinking of you." 296 00:16:29,041 --> 00:16:30,250 "Dear Preston, 297 00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:32,542 "I've enjoyed every minute of our time in Tahoe. 298 00:16:32,542 --> 00:16:33,917 "You're this amazing young man 299 00:16:33,917 --> 00:16:35,458 that makes me proud every day, 300 00:16:35,458 --> 00:16:36,792 "and more every year. 301 00:16:36,792 --> 00:16:39,542 "There are incredible things that await you in your future. 302 00:16:39,542 --> 00:16:41,583 "You're a success in life... 303 00:16:41,583 --> 00:16:44,917 "and always will be, because you have that special spark 304 00:16:44,917 --> 00:16:46,792 "to do and enjoy life to its fullest. 305 00:16:46,792 --> 00:16:48,458 I love you. XO, Mom." 306 00:16:49,583 --> 00:16:51,750 And I read that... 307 00:16:51,750 --> 00:16:55,417 literally any time I have any sort of problem in my life, 308 00:16:55,417 --> 00:16:59,250 because there's just the fact that she wrote that. 309 00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:01,083 It just... I don't know, 310 00:17:01,083 --> 00:17:04,542 just shows what kind of person I had by my side for all those years. 311 00:17:04,542 --> 00:17:06,750 Here's a screenshot of a text she sent me. 312 00:17:18,291 --> 00:17:21,458 And, uh, she did not mean to send that. 313 00:17:21,458 --> 00:17:22,750 She, like... 314 00:17:22,750 --> 00:17:25,792 was just probably high out of her mind. 315 00:17:30,375 --> 00:17:32,291 (laughing) That mean picture. 316 00:17:32,291 --> 00:17:34,250 I know, I'm sorry. This one's funny. 317 00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:35,709 Wait. Britt: Whoa! 318 00:17:35,709 --> 00:17:37,959 Britt: Get off! I'm ticklish, and I don't like being tickled. 319 00:17:37,959 --> 00:17:39,500 Wynne: I wasn't tickling you. (Britt giggles) 320 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:42,125 I was trying to make a wish on your tummy, you big biddy. 321 00:17:51,333 --> 00:17:53,750 Ow! Not happening! 322 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:56,667 Britt: And she wipes her nose with my hair. 323 00:17:59,750 --> 00:18:02,500 Doyle: Each one of our three kids were C-sections, 324 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:07,875 but the third one was a particularly hard pregnancy, 325 00:18:07,875 --> 00:18:11,917 so when Wynne got out of the hospital, 326 00:18:11,917 --> 00:18:14,542 they gave her a lot of... 327 00:18:14,542 --> 00:18:16,291 uh, prescriptions, I mean, in a row. 328 00:18:16,291 --> 00:18:18,583 I had no idea 329 00:18:18,583 --> 00:18:20,583 that she'd been given Oxycontin, 330 00:18:20,583 --> 00:18:24,875 or Vicodin or any of the opiates that we all know about now. 331 00:18:24,875 --> 00:18:27,917 We had no idea that there were any dangers. 332 00:18:27,917 --> 00:18:32,792 About a month and a half after the baby was born, 333 00:18:32,792 --> 00:18:35,417 Wynne was starting not to get out of bed. 334 00:18:35,417 --> 00:18:37,834 And that's when I started finding 335 00:18:37,834 --> 00:18:40,125 the pill bottles around the house. 336 00:18:40,125 --> 00:18:42,375 All of a sudden, now there's pills all the time, 337 00:18:42,375 --> 00:18:44,583 and there's more and more doctor visits, 338 00:18:44,583 --> 00:18:46,834 and there's more and more trips to the pharmacy, 339 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:50,583 and she's getting less and less interested in anything. 340 00:18:50,583 --> 00:18:52,208 She was hiding 'em, 341 00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:54,542 and she was getting 'em from multiple doctors. 342 00:18:54,542 --> 00:18:58,083 Different doctors that started showing up on pill bottles. 343 00:18:58,083 --> 00:19:00,208 Doctors were just throwing pills at her. 344 00:19:01,709 --> 00:19:03,291 And by the end of the year, 345 00:19:03,291 --> 00:19:07,542 you know, she just was a totally different person. 346 00:19:07,542 --> 00:19:08,709 Completely different. 347 00:19:08,709 --> 00:19:11,166 It was like Jekyll and Hyde. 348 00:19:14,959 --> 00:19:16,750 When we were dating, 349 00:19:16,750 --> 00:19:20,709 I had never thought about any kind of addiction, 350 00:19:20,709 --> 00:19:22,583 or alcohol, I mean, anything. 351 00:19:22,583 --> 00:19:25,041 We went out a few times a week. 352 00:19:25,041 --> 00:19:28,041 We'd go to restaurants and drink wine. 353 00:19:28,041 --> 00:19:29,917 I mean, there was nothing. 354 00:19:29,917 --> 00:19:32,750 I mean, I never saw anything. 355 00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:35,417 She was driven, and fun to be around, 356 00:19:35,417 --> 00:19:37,333 and it felt right. 357 00:19:37,333 --> 00:19:40,208 We had a couple of kids, she was a great mom. 358 00:19:40,208 --> 00:19:42,041 We were going on vacations. 359 00:19:42,041 --> 00:19:43,750 We were visiting with family. 360 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:47,333 We had friends over all the time. We'd have dinner parties. 361 00:19:47,333 --> 00:19:48,792 She was raised really well. 362 00:19:48,792 --> 00:19:51,000 She was, like, a track star, 363 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,083 cross-country, the cheerleader, everyone loved her. 364 00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:56,291 I just always looked up to her when I was little, 365 00:19:56,291 --> 00:19:59,417 and being like, "That is the most beautiful woman, like, ever." 366 00:19:59,417 --> 00:20:02,583 And I'd wear all of her clothes, all of her jewelery, 367 00:20:02,583 --> 00:20:04,083 I would do makeup with her 368 00:20:04,083 --> 00:20:07,250 ever since I was-- I could walk, I feel like. (chuckles) 369 00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:11,667 Doyle: Christmas morning of 2000, 370 00:20:11,667 --> 00:20:16,041 about five or six months after the baby was born, 371 00:20:16,041 --> 00:20:18,792 I woke her up, and it had been a couple of days 372 00:20:18,792 --> 00:20:21,250 since she'd been up, 373 00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:23,458 and, uh, I got the kids out of bed, 374 00:20:23,458 --> 00:20:27,125 and, you know, she didn't even realize it was Christmas. 375 00:20:27,125 --> 00:20:29,792 I asked her if she would consider 376 00:20:29,792 --> 00:20:31,834 going to a treatment facility, 377 00:20:31,834 --> 00:20:36,125 and I had already talked to Betty Ford Clinic down in Palm Springs. 378 00:20:36,125 --> 00:20:40,625 She stayed for three days and then went missing. 379 00:20:40,625 --> 00:20:43,583 I went down and tried to find her. 380 00:20:43,583 --> 00:20:46,291 She'd checked into a motel, and... 381 00:20:46,291 --> 00:20:48,125 she was passed out. 382 00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:53,291 I had just no idea what was going on. 383 00:20:54,959 --> 00:20:58,709 She went to a second rehab facility, 384 00:20:58,709 --> 00:21:02,917 and I figured, since I could afford it at the time, 385 00:21:02,917 --> 00:21:05,959 maybe this place would be better 'cause it was three times as expensive. 386 00:21:05,959 --> 00:21:08,709 When she checked out 28 days later, 387 00:21:08,709 --> 00:21:11,291 she had a whole bunch of new pills... 388 00:21:11,291 --> 00:21:14,000 and it happened all over again. 389 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,667 She would go around to different doctors, 390 00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:19,875 telling them that she had pain. 391 00:21:19,875 --> 00:21:23,125 You know, she'd do something to injure herself. 392 00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:26,750 I watched her slam her hand in the car door one time 393 00:21:26,750 --> 00:21:28,875 just so that she could go to the emergency room, 394 00:21:28,875 --> 00:21:32,166 and the doctors would always give her something, 395 00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:34,375 Vicodin or Oxy or something. 396 00:21:34,375 --> 00:21:35,959 She shattered both her wrists, 397 00:21:35,959 --> 00:21:37,333 and she had... 398 00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:40,291 um, this-- I don't know how to... 399 00:21:40,291 --> 00:21:42,291 she had like a cast on both of 'em, 400 00:21:42,291 --> 00:21:44,542 and as soon as they were all healed up again, 401 00:21:44,542 --> 00:21:46,542 she did something that shattered it again. 402 00:21:46,542 --> 00:21:49,625 Repeatedly, like, the cycle was over, and over, 403 00:21:49,625 --> 00:21:51,291 where she'd hurt herself, 404 00:21:51,291 --> 00:21:54,291 and then get medication, and then she'd go off, and leave. 405 00:21:54,291 --> 00:21:56,667 My dad always told me it was "cooking school." 406 00:21:56,667 --> 00:21:58,917 Once we got older, we started to realize that, like, 407 00:21:58,917 --> 00:22:01,792 she is going to rehab right now, but... 408 00:22:01,792 --> 00:22:03,959 It's not-- ...it's not gonna-- it's not gonna work. 409 00:22:03,959 --> 00:22:05,625 It got to the point where it was so common, 410 00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:07,959 I was like, "Maybe she was really like that." 411 00:22:07,959 --> 00:22:09,625 But then I could tell when she was clean, 412 00:22:09,625 --> 00:22:13,542 how healthy and just amazing she looked, 413 00:22:13,542 --> 00:22:17,083 but when she was high, it was like... 414 00:22:17,083 --> 00:22:19,250 it was like she was sleepwalking, 415 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:22,458 like, she wasn't herself whatsoever. 416 00:22:22,458 --> 00:22:24,500 Just, like, her eyes were different, 417 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:26,083 her speech was different, 418 00:22:26,083 --> 00:22:29,917 the way she walked, everything about her was just really off. 419 00:22:29,917 --> 00:22:32,500 Preston: When she was clean, she was an awesome human being, 420 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:33,917 and just the best mother, 421 00:22:33,917 --> 00:22:35,917 and I'd trust her with my life when she was sober, 422 00:22:35,917 --> 00:22:40,500 but I had to do things that most kids wouldn't have to. 423 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:42,125 It almost felt like I was the parent. 424 00:22:42,125 --> 00:22:43,542 It's like the roles switched, 425 00:22:43,542 --> 00:22:46,333 where I'd be searching her room for-- for drugs. 426 00:22:46,333 --> 00:22:49,583 Whenever I'd open drawers, there would be pills hidden. 427 00:22:49,583 --> 00:22:52,959 There would be pills in the bathroom counters. 428 00:22:52,959 --> 00:22:55,875 You know, in her coat pockets, or in her shoes, 429 00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,166 in her sock drawer, 430 00:22:57,166 --> 00:23:00,458 I mean, in the back of the food pantry, or wherever. 431 00:23:00,458 --> 00:23:01,458 They were everywhere. 432 00:23:01,458 --> 00:23:03,625 Her family was ashamed. 433 00:23:03,625 --> 00:23:06,166 Every Christmas was a disaster. 434 00:23:06,166 --> 00:23:07,625 All of a sudden, we're losing friends, 435 00:23:07,625 --> 00:23:09,834 people didn't want to be around us. 436 00:23:18,083 --> 00:23:20,959 Doyle: I think at this point, the kids... 437 00:23:20,959 --> 00:23:22,792 they were just starting to understand it. 438 00:23:22,792 --> 00:23:26,583 The reason why I would keep them out in the evenings, you know, 439 00:23:26,583 --> 00:23:29,291 and always filled their days with things, you know. 440 00:23:29,291 --> 00:23:31,625 I mean, at one point, I had all three of 'em in Little League, 441 00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:33,458 which was a disaster for me, 442 00:23:33,458 --> 00:23:34,917 because I'm driving all over the place. 443 00:23:34,917 --> 00:23:38,208 Two practices and a game for each one of 'em every week. 444 00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:40,625 You know, we'd have dinner out all the time, 445 00:23:40,625 --> 00:23:42,166 and movies, and you know. 446 00:23:42,166 --> 00:23:44,000 It was exhausting. 447 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,583 I'm trying to keep them away 448 00:23:45,583 --> 00:23:48,166 from wanting to go upstairs and see their mom in bed. 449 00:23:48,166 --> 00:23:50,500 We knew there was a problem, but there was nothing that 450 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:52,125 we could say or do that was gonna change it, 451 00:23:52,125 --> 00:23:54,417 so it just became part of our life. 452 00:23:54,417 --> 00:23:58,166 Doyle: In 2008, like seven years into it, 453 00:23:58,166 --> 00:24:01,375 a rehab facility in Malibu called and said, 454 00:24:01,375 --> 00:24:04,125 "Are you not coming for family week?" And I said, "No, I've had it. 455 00:24:04,125 --> 00:24:07,000 "You know, I'm not coming to anymore family weeks. 456 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,792 I've been to too many already." 457 00:24:09,792 --> 00:24:12,250 And they said, um... 458 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:15,250 "Well, it sounds to me like you're done." 459 00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:18,792 And I said, "I don't even know what that means." 460 00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:22,542 He said... 461 00:24:22,542 --> 00:24:24,875 "Well, if you're thinking about a divorce, 462 00:24:24,875 --> 00:24:28,083 "we... we really ought to think about that while she's here, 463 00:24:28,083 --> 00:24:30,375 "so that she doesn't come home to that 464 00:24:30,375 --> 00:24:32,625 and not have a support group." 465 00:24:32,625 --> 00:24:34,667 I mean, it was the first time anybody had ever said... 466 00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:35,709 that I actually... 467 00:24:38,458 --> 00:24:41,208 you know, could get out, so... 468 00:24:41,208 --> 00:24:44,208 um, I... 469 00:24:44,208 --> 00:24:46,458 I filed... 470 00:24:46,458 --> 00:24:49,041 and moved the kids out. 471 00:24:55,208 --> 00:24:56,750 When we divorced, 472 00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:58,667 Wynne got half custody, 473 00:24:58,667 --> 00:25:01,583 and started living in San Francisco. 474 00:25:03,417 --> 00:25:05,375 The kids would visit her. 475 00:25:05,375 --> 00:25:06,542 They're getting older. 476 00:25:06,542 --> 00:25:08,250 They're starting to really develop 477 00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:09,417 a relationship with their mom 478 00:25:09,417 --> 00:25:11,709 that's separate from me. 479 00:25:11,709 --> 00:25:13,333 Harry: The last house that we lived at with her 480 00:25:13,333 --> 00:25:17,875 was in the South Market, and the Embarcadero. 481 00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:21,083 And I used to skate on the Embarcadero at 10:30, 482 00:25:21,083 --> 00:25:23,166 'cause she would allow me to, like, leave the house, 483 00:25:23,166 --> 00:25:24,625 like, she gave us that much freedom. 484 00:25:24,625 --> 00:25:26,959 It was just like my favorite feeling in the world. 485 00:25:34,041 --> 00:25:36,667 This was her house, you see, with all these candles. 486 00:25:36,667 --> 00:25:38,959 Man: Oh, that's cool, yeah. 487 00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:44,000 Doyle: When the kids were with her, 488 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,417 I was always on edge. 489 00:25:46,417 --> 00:25:49,959 Then it really just became about safety. 490 00:25:49,959 --> 00:25:53,458 I became this hyper-vigilant sort of guy, 491 00:25:53,458 --> 00:25:54,875 and she was fine, 492 00:25:54,875 --> 00:25:57,792 but I knew it wasn't gonna last. 493 00:25:57,792 --> 00:26:00,083 It just slowly deteriorated again. 494 00:26:04,166 --> 00:26:07,291 I heard from the kids that she was going into the hospital 495 00:26:07,291 --> 00:26:09,959 because she had a kidney stone that they had to remove. 496 00:26:09,959 --> 00:26:13,792 She had been taking a lot of opiates, 497 00:26:13,792 --> 00:26:15,750 and once she got to the hospital, 498 00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:18,625 they were giving her what a normal person 499 00:26:18,625 --> 00:26:22,417 would be getting as a dose when you have pain, 500 00:26:22,417 --> 00:26:25,667 but it wasn't near the amount she'd been taking on her own. 501 00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:28,166 So, there she is in a confined spot, 502 00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:30,959 for four days going through withdrawals, 503 00:26:30,959 --> 00:26:34,333 and it was just getting worse. 504 00:26:34,333 --> 00:26:36,792 So, she left the hospital, 505 00:26:36,792 --> 00:26:41,375 and they gave her a bunch of opiates on the way out. 506 00:26:41,375 --> 00:26:43,458 Preston and Harry were staying with their mom. 507 00:26:43,458 --> 00:26:45,500 Harry: Like, she had all these pills on the side of her bed. 508 00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:48,625 "The hospital told me to take these," and I was just like, 509 00:26:48,625 --> 00:26:51,500 just... please don't overdo this. 510 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:52,959 Like, there's a lot of pills here. 511 00:26:52,959 --> 00:26:55,041 Eight bottles filled to the top, 512 00:26:55,041 --> 00:26:58,000 and I was like, "Who gave you all of these?" 513 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,375 And she said, "Oh, my doctor did." 514 00:26:59,375 --> 00:27:01,917 Like, "I'm still in a lot of pain from the kidneys." 515 00:27:01,917 --> 00:27:05,333 And then, in the morning, she was just laying there 516 00:27:05,333 --> 00:27:08,834 with her arms spread out, and her eyes were kind of open. 517 00:27:08,834 --> 00:27:11,709 We said goodbye, and got no response, 518 00:27:11,709 --> 00:27:13,875 and we thought that was odd. 519 00:27:13,875 --> 00:27:15,875 Preston, like, pulled out his phone to, like, 520 00:27:15,875 --> 00:27:18,041 take a video to just, like, show our father, 521 00:27:18,041 --> 00:27:19,875 like, what was, like, going on. 522 00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:22,458 And I told him, like, 523 00:27:22,458 --> 00:27:24,125 "Put down the phone, like, right now." 524 00:27:24,125 --> 00:27:25,375 And he's like, "Why?" 525 00:27:25,375 --> 00:27:27,333 And like I, that was-- I was like grabbing her foot, 526 00:27:27,333 --> 00:27:28,959 and it was just ice-cold. 527 00:27:28,959 --> 00:27:31,709 And I called 911, they were telling me to do chest compressions on her. 528 00:27:31,709 --> 00:27:33,542 I was just yelling at Preston to stop, 529 00:27:33,542 --> 00:27:36,000 and he was just like, said, "We need to do everything we can." 530 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,542 and... it was, um... 531 00:27:38,542 --> 00:27:40,583 I mean, that's when I had to call, like, my father. 532 00:27:40,583 --> 00:27:42,542 And it just was surreal, 533 00:27:42,542 --> 00:27:44,834 in having the conversation with Harry 534 00:27:44,834 --> 00:27:46,709 as I can hear Preston in the background. 535 00:27:46,709 --> 00:27:49,458 "Mom's dead. Like we-- we need to do something," 536 00:27:49,458 --> 00:27:51,458 and he just-- he didn't believe me, and I was just like, 537 00:27:51,458 --> 00:27:54,041 "Just get to the city, like, right now." 538 00:27:54,041 --> 00:27:57,583 And then hearing Preston screaming on the other-- 539 00:28:01,250 --> 00:28:03,583 You know, he's, um... 540 00:28:03,583 --> 00:28:06,250 trying to give her compressions. (sniffles) 541 00:28:15,458 --> 00:28:16,917 Doyle: By the end... 542 00:28:16,917 --> 00:28:20,250 at the funeral, there were hardly any of her friends. 543 00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:31,792 Britt: When I saw the pills on her bedside table, 544 00:28:31,792 --> 00:28:33,625 when she had passed, 545 00:28:33,625 --> 00:28:37,625 that was probably the most anger I could feel ever, 546 00:28:37,625 --> 00:28:40,333 because she's been to that hospital 547 00:28:40,333 --> 00:28:42,917 easily like 50 times. 548 00:28:42,917 --> 00:28:46,291 They've seen her there, unconscious, had to, like, pump her stomach 549 00:28:46,291 --> 00:28:48,083 so many times, 550 00:28:48,083 --> 00:28:50,291 and yet, she comes in there, 551 00:28:50,291 --> 00:28:53,333 and they leave her, like, with more? 552 00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:57,125 Doyle: I firmly believe that there are so many people 553 00:28:57,125 --> 00:28:59,709 that are being prescribed opiates 554 00:28:59,709 --> 00:29:02,625 without any direction or support 555 00:29:02,625 --> 00:29:05,083 that have no idea what they're getting into, 556 00:29:05,083 --> 00:29:07,125 and then, once they can't get out of it 557 00:29:07,125 --> 00:29:10,959 the shame and the inability to actually confront it 558 00:29:10,959 --> 00:29:14,417 and talk about it with somebody... makes it worse, 559 00:29:14,417 --> 00:29:18,709 because now, all of a sudden, they're an addict. 560 00:30:06,250 --> 00:30:07,500 Do you like it so far? 561 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,583 I love it, I think it's beautiful. 562 00:30:10,583 --> 00:30:14,041 I was thinking, maybe we would make one for your mommy. 563 00:30:14,041 --> 00:30:16,375 That's what I would like to do when, 564 00:30:16,375 --> 00:30:19,041 when I'm done with yours, if that's okay. 565 00:30:19,041 --> 00:30:22,041 Let her know that we're thinking of her. 566 00:30:22,041 --> 00:30:25,375 Kelly: I have adopted Audrey. 567 00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:28,417 She needed stability, security, 568 00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:30,375 and until my daughter could recover, 569 00:30:30,375 --> 00:30:31,709 she just couldn't give her that. 570 00:30:31,709 --> 00:30:35,125 Kelly: I'm trying to keep her a child. 571 00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:37,166 I don't want her to grow up too fast. 572 00:30:37,166 --> 00:30:39,375 But she's part of this, 573 00:30:39,375 --> 00:30:41,417 and she's kind of my partner. 574 00:30:41,417 --> 00:30:42,583 We have the Narcan, 575 00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:45,250 and I dropped some off for her. 576 00:30:45,250 --> 00:30:47,375 If something happened, 577 00:30:47,375 --> 00:30:50,583 and I couldn't get over there, 578 00:30:50,583 --> 00:30:52,750 do you remember what you would do? 579 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:55,792 Where-- where do I keep it? 580 00:30:55,792 --> 00:30:56,792 In the top. 581 00:30:56,792 --> 00:31:00,667 So I keep the Narcan right here. 582 00:31:00,667 --> 00:31:04,083 This one is real easy access 583 00:31:04,083 --> 00:31:06,166 for Audrey if she needs to. 584 00:31:06,166 --> 00:31:08,583 I keep a couple of packs inside here. 585 00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:17,166 Three, actually, 586 00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:19,458 and it's two... two doses per box. 587 00:31:20,959 --> 00:31:23,709 But this is really easy for her to reach. 588 00:31:23,709 --> 00:31:25,250 I can get at it. 589 00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:28,041 It's very visible in the red bag. 590 00:31:28,041 --> 00:31:30,500 If she wasn't moving, 591 00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:33,291 try to shake her? I would check if she was breathing. 592 00:31:33,291 --> 00:31:34,959 Okay. 593 00:31:34,959 --> 00:31:37,083 And, then, what's the next thing you would do? 594 00:31:40,041 --> 00:31:42,834 Rub, rub the lips, try to stimulate her. 595 00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:44,166 And then what would you do 596 00:31:44,166 --> 00:31:45,875 if she didn't wake up? 597 00:31:45,875 --> 00:31:50,083 Then I would take the... the Narcan... 598 00:31:50,083 --> 00:31:51,208 Okay. 599 00:31:51,208 --> 00:31:55,458 ...and I would... and I would place it on her thigh, 600 00:31:55,458 --> 00:31:56,875 her butt, 601 00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:58,583 or right here. Yep. 602 00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:02,000 Exactly. And then what do you do? 603 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,709 Then, call 911. 604 00:32:04,709 --> 00:32:06,000 Right. 605 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,792 I'm gonna say a special prayer for your mommy today, 606 00:32:09,792 --> 00:32:12,458 'cause she really needs it. 607 00:32:12,458 --> 00:32:15,041 I know she's trying very hard, 608 00:32:15,041 --> 00:32:16,875 and I know she misses you. 609 00:32:23,667 --> 00:32:26,000 I'm gonna bring some to Stephany. 610 00:32:28,291 --> 00:32:30,875 I don't know what she's doing... 611 00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:36,500 but it's always good to have it there, just in case. 612 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,291 And also... 613 00:32:38,291 --> 00:32:41,083 a lot of times, they don't use alone. 614 00:33:50,417 --> 00:33:51,917 They're so pretty. 615 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:20,709 Gail Cole: When we found him, 616 00:34:20,709 --> 00:34:23,667 the two of us pulled him off the bed. 617 00:34:23,667 --> 00:34:25,458 I'll never forget the sound 618 00:34:25,458 --> 00:34:28,417 of just the air coming out of his lungs. 619 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,417 For the longest time, I couldn't come in this room. 620 00:34:33,458 --> 00:34:36,583 It's literally like the day he died. 621 00:34:36,583 --> 00:34:38,959 It took me a year to come in 622 00:34:38,959 --> 00:34:40,458 and throw his garbage out, 623 00:34:40,458 --> 00:34:41,625 and I think I did that, 624 00:34:41,625 --> 00:34:43,709 because I saw that the medical examiner 625 00:34:43,709 --> 00:34:45,458 left the wrapper for the body bag in there. 626 00:34:47,583 --> 00:34:49,667 I just-- I can't go through it. 627 00:34:49,667 --> 00:34:52,583 I feel like it's like getting rid of him. 628 00:34:52,583 --> 00:34:55,000 Brian Cole: Part of me takes great comfort in all of this stuff too. 629 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Just reminds me of his personality, you know. 630 00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:09,834 Brian: I did everything possible 631 00:35:09,834 --> 00:35:13,583 to-- to create a perfect life for a family. 632 00:35:13,583 --> 00:35:15,583 Brendan: Brothers get together! 633 00:35:15,583 --> 00:35:17,458 Brian (in video): All the brothers, hold on. 634 00:35:17,458 --> 00:35:18,834 Brian: To have this happen is just 635 00:35:18,834 --> 00:35:20,792 not even conceivable to me. 636 00:35:20,792 --> 00:35:22,417 Brian (in video): Come on, Connor. 637 00:35:22,417 --> 00:35:24,166 Gail (in video): Here's Brendan! 638 00:35:24,166 --> 00:35:26,041 Hey baby, I'm not four yet! 639 00:35:26,041 --> 00:35:27,667 Brian (in video): Yeah, Brendan! 640 00:35:32,291 --> 00:35:35,875 Brian: That's his calendar, he was marking off the days when he was first... 641 00:35:35,875 --> 00:35:37,375 Gail: Sober? Brian: ...sober. 642 00:35:37,375 --> 00:35:39,875 I just thought it would be important for him to be able to 643 00:35:39,875 --> 00:35:42,041 look at the calendar at the end of every day, 644 00:35:42,041 --> 00:35:43,417 and cross it off, and say, you know, 645 00:35:43,417 --> 00:35:44,709 "There's another day, I've done it." 646 00:35:44,709 --> 00:35:46,709 You know? I just wanted him to have 647 00:35:46,709 --> 00:35:50,166 some type of way of measuring his success. 648 00:35:51,542 --> 00:35:52,792 Gail: When he had come out of rehab, 649 00:35:52,792 --> 00:35:54,208 he looked the best he had in years, 650 00:35:54,208 --> 00:35:57,333 He looked so healthy and was so positive. 651 00:35:57,333 --> 00:36:00,458 And he said, "Oh, can I borrow the car? I want to go to the mall." 652 00:36:00,458 --> 00:36:02,208 And I said, "Sure." 653 00:36:02,208 --> 00:36:03,709 And he's only gone 45 minutes. 654 00:36:03,709 --> 00:36:06,500 He's texting Brian pictures of shoes, of all things. 655 00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:08,834 And he came back. 656 00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:10,750 He poked his head in, I said, "You know," 657 00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:12,542 I said, "It's so nice to have you back." 658 00:36:12,542 --> 00:36:15,750 He goes, "Thanks, Mom, I love you. Thanks for giving me another chance." 659 00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:17,583 And, with that, I look at his face 660 00:36:17,583 --> 00:36:20,250 and I'm, like, "Wow! He's high." 661 00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:25,083 And, you know, the yelling, the screaming, and... 662 00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:27,500 we agreed tomorrow would be another day. 663 00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,208 And, um, I went to sleep. 664 00:36:29,208 --> 00:36:31,250 Brian fell asleep on the, on the couch, 665 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:35,125 and woke up at around one o'clock, by the grace of God. 666 00:36:36,917 --> 00:36:41,083 He found him kind of laying at an odd angle on the bed. 667 00:36:41,083 --> 00:36:43,375 He turned on the light and screamed. 668 00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:44,750 His lips were turning blue. 669 00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:47,500 He was unconscious. He was barely breathing. 670 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:49,750 And you were screaming, we're shaking him, 671 00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:51,166 calling 911. 672 00:36:51,166 --> 00:36:53,792 The police came, the ambulance came, 673 00:36:53,792 --> 00:36:56,250 and then Mobile Intensive Care came 674 00:36:56,250 --> 00:36:59,000 and they revived him with Narcan... 675 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,792 and he walked out the front door to the ambulance. 676 00:37:09,083 --> 00:37:11,625 When we got into the emergency room, 677 00:37:11,625 --> 00:37:14,834 nobody really talked about the withdrawal from the Narcan, 678 00:37:14,834 --> 00:37:17,625 and there was no real game plan 679 00:37:17,625 --> 00:37:20,208 for what to do after overdosing. 680 00:37:20,208 --> 00:37:22,625 So, we got in the car and I drove him home, 681 00:37:22,625 --> 00:37:25,542 and I could, could barely even speak to him. 682 00:37:25,542 --> 00:37:26,834 I was just so furious. 683 00:37:26,834 --> 00:37:28,834 He was, you know, sleeping in the front seat, 684 00:37:28,834 --> 00:37:30,667 and we pulled in the garage and I said, 685 00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:34,500 "Do me a favor, would you just take a shower and try to get yourself together?" 686 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,583 And he goes, "I can't." 687 00:37:36,583 --> 00:37:39,208 And I didn't really understand, 688 00:37:39,208 --> 00:37:41,333 but I've learned, after the fact, 689 00:37:41,333 --> 00:37:44,250 that when you're going through withdrawal, 690 00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:48,000 it hurts to shave, it hurts to shower, it hurts to brush your teeth. 691 00:37:49,583 --> 00:37:50,875 He went up in his room. 692 00:37:50,875 --> 00:37:52,291 The door was open. 693 00:37:52,291 --> 00:37:54,291 We had his laptop, we had his cellphone. 694 00:37:54,291 --> 00:37:55,875 We had taken all those away, 695 00:37:55,875 --> 00:37:57,834 so he was, you know, kind of in lockdown. 696 00:37:57,834 --> 00:38:00,000 That was at 1:30 in the afternoon. 697 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,542 And then about 2:30, Brian came up 698 00:38:02,542 --> 00:38:03,792 and said to him, he goes, 699 00:38:03,792 --> 00:38:05,750 you know, kind of tussled his hair, and said, 700 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:08,542 "You know... you got a second chance. 701 00:38:08,542 --> 00:38:10,041 Not everyone gets a second chance." 702 00:38:10,041 --> 00:38:13,250 He goes, "You better not waste that second chance." 703 00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:17,208 And that was probably the last thing anyone said to him. 704 00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:21,875 It was about quarter to three, and I came upstairs, 705 00:38:21,875 --> 00:38:26,041 and he was kneeling with his hands on his head. 706 00:38:26,041 --> 00:38:28,625 And, to this day, I wish I would have said something to him. 707 00:38:28,625 --> 00:38:29,959 I wish I would have come over and said, 708 00:38:29,959 --> 00:38:31,875 "You know, B, I love you. It's going to be okay." 709 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:34,500 Connor came home. 710 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,750 It was 20 after three, or so, and he said, "Where's B?" 711 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:40,917 I said, "I don't know. He's upstairs kneeling next to his bed." 712 00:38:40,917 --> 00:38:43,208 And he went upstairs. 713 00:38:43,208 --> 00:38:45,667 And he must've tried to... 714 00:38:45,667 --> 00:38:48,417 move him and shake him, and he screamed. 715 00:38:48,417 --> 00:38:50,917 And we called 911 immediately. 716 00:38:50,917 --> 00:38:53,709 And everyone-- Connor's throwing up, 717 00:38:53,709 --> 00:38:54,875 and everyone's screaming, 718 00:38:54,875 --> 00:38:57,041 and Brian had run over and got our neighbor 719 00:38:57,041 --> 00:38:59,125 who was a doctor. 720 00:38:59,125 --> 00:39:01,458 It was a nightmare. 721 00:39:01,458 --> 00:39:04,500 They, uh, made us leave the room. 722 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:07,083 And they tried to revive him again with the Narcan, 723 00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:08,125 but it didn't work. 724 00:39:10,667 --> 00:39:15,208 They had worked on him for about 40 minutes. 725 00:39:15,208 --> 00:39:17,959 I knew. I just, I knew he was gone. 726 00:39:17,959 --> 00:39:22,875 You know, you prayed, you hoped. You did everything, but... 727 00:39:22,875 --> 00:39:26,083 And probably at about 4:20, 728 00:39:26,083 --> 00:39:28,792 our neighbor pronounced him dead. 729 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:34,583 He had used heroin again. 730 00:39:34,583 --> 00:39:38,083 We found this old stuffed animal 731 00:39:38,083 --> 00:39:43,166 that had old baggies of heroin and a syringe in it. 732 00:39:43,166 --> 00:39:45,417 I had the hardest time, and so did Brian, 733 00:39:45,417 --> 00:39:48,208 wrapping our head around that. 734 00:39:48,208 --> 00:39:50,417 Why would he have done that? 735 00:39:50,417 --> 00:39:53,458 Like... he knew we loved him. 736 00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:54,792 He knew we wanted to, you know, 737 00:39:54,792 --> 00:39:57,917 send him back to rehab and get him help. 738 00:39:57,917 --> 00:39:59,458 And what could you be thinking, 739 00:39:59,458 --> 00:40:02,291 that, like, that love wasn't enough. 740 00:40:03,917 --> 00:40:06,000 Brian: One of the things that's always a regret 741 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000 is that you completely underestimate 742 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,792 how hard the battle of addiction is. 743 00:40:11,959 --> 00:40:13,959 I mean, you think that, if you drop everything, 744 00:40:13,959 --> 00:40:16,125 and, you know, you get the right help, 745 00:40:16,125 --> 00:40:17,750 that you'll be able to see your way through this 746 00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:20,959 and help somebody, but it's not quite that easy. 747 00:40:20,959 --> 00:40:23,000 I mean, I thought I knew Brendan like the back of my hand, 748 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,458 but it's a different person once this addiction kicks in. 749 00:40:27,625 --> 00:40:29,500 As a father, you have this, 750 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,125 this guilt that it, it happened on your watch. 751 00:40:32,125 --> 00:40:34,417 And it's just, you know, you can explain it away all you want, 752 00:40:34,417 --> 00:40:37,667 and other people can tell you, you know, you did everything you could. 753 00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:40,875 But that always will linger in the back of your mind. 754 00:40:42,834 --> 00:40:45,000 You taking that also? Yeah. 755 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,166 And this? Yep. 756 00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:03,000 Gail: When Brendan overdosed, 757 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,458 we didn't know what happened. 758 00:41:04,458 --> 00:41:07,041 Heroin? Like, you know, here we are, we're in... 759 00:41:07,041 --> 00:41:09,667 we're in Allendale, we're in "Mayberry." 760 00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:11,208 Heroin, you think a dark alley, 761 00:41:11,208 --> 00:41:13,709 you think, you know, somebody on the streets, 762 00:41:13,709 --> 00:41:17,166 not in towns like this. 763 00:41:22,041 --> 00:41:23,542 Gail: Just sign in. Nice to see you. 764 00:41:23,542 --> 00:41:25,333 Man: Good to see you too. 765 00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:27,041 Yeah, just sign in, make a name tag. 766 00:41:27,041 --> 00:41:30,709 Gail: We formed a group "Hope and Healing After an Addiction Death," 767 00:41:30,709 --> 00:41:32,041 and we meet twice a month, 768 00:41:32,041 --> 00:41:34,083 and it's for people who have lost somebody 769 00:41:34,083 --> 00:41:36,041 to the disease of addiction. 770 00:41:36,041 --> 00:41:38,875 I thought we would start by sharing our stories, 771 00:41:38,875 --> 00:41:42,166 um, and, if you have a picture, that would be great. 772 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:43,709 Um, you know, just, 773 00:41:43,709 --> 00:41:46,917 share your story and, and talk about what you went through. 774 00:41:48,917 --> 00:41:50,667 I have two pictures of Georgia. 775 00:41:52,583 --> 00:41:54,500 This is my favorite. 776 00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:56,417 Gail: That's Georgia. Group: Georgia, Georgia. 777 00:41:56,417 --> 00:41:58,291 This is her. This is her. 778 00:41:58,291 --> 00:42:00,917 She's just all energy. 779 00:42:00,917 --> 00:42:02,250 All, like, "Yeah!" 780 00:42:02,250 --> 00:42:05,875 You know? And that's how she was. 781 00:42:06,959 --> 00:42:08,959 David (on tape): Georgia. Hey, Georgia. 782 00:42:08,959 --> 00:42:12,000 Come here. What? 783 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,834 David: When Georgia was born, 784 00:42:13,834 --> 00:42:16,750 I remember that I was in the delivery room with her, 785 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:18,458 and I started talking to her. 786 00:42:18,458 --> 00:42:21,417 I didn't talk to her like she was a newborn baby. 787 00:42:21,417 --> 00:42:23,959 I talked to her like she was somebody who... 788 00:42:23,959 --> 00:42:25,583 we had been waiting for, 789 00:42:25,583 --> 00:42:27,709 and that she had been waiting to arrive. 790 00:42:27,709 --> 00:42:29,625 Who is that? 791 00:42:31,625 --> 00:42:34,625 David: Within minutes, we had our first conversation. 792 00:42:34,625 --> 00:42:37,041 It was one-sided, but... 793 00:42:37,041 --> 00:42:39,917 but it was, uh... 794 00:42:39,917 --> 00:42:41,458 Judy: But she was special, 795 00:42:41,458 --> 00:42:46,792 she was the first grandchild, first niece. David: Yeah. 796 00:42:46,792 --> 00:42:49,792 And we took a lot of pictures of her doing nothing. 797 00:42:49,792 --> 00:42:51,917 We thought it was so exciting. 798 00:42:51,917 --> 00:42:53,834 Judy: She was just very happy. 799 00:42:53,834 --> 00:42:57,542 It was a very special, happy time of life. 800 00:42:57,542 --> 00:43:00,583 David: I had a nickname for her, I called her "Soda Pop," 801 00:43:00,583 --> 00:43:02,375 because she was bubbly, 802 00:43:02,375 --> 00:43:04,041 and she was, like, you know... 803 00:43:04,041 --> 00:43:06,875 you didn't want to shake her before opening her. 804 00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:11,250 David: It was just a constant amazement. 805 00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:12,667 You know, watching her unfold 806 00:43:12,667 --> 00:43:15,834 into an amazingly bright, young child. 807 00:43:17,875 --> 00:43:23,542 She died, um, Thanksgiving Day a year ago. 808 00:43:23,542 --> 00:43:25,667 She was 26. 809 00:43:25,667 --> 00:43:27,750 It's like she never knew what hit her. 810 00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:29,959 But the way she described it with me was, 811 00:43:29,959 --> 00:43:32,625 that, um, she was working with a group 812 00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:34,291 that ran several group homes, 813 00:43:34,291 --> 00:43:36,500 and she was an assistant in these group homes, 814 00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:37,959 and one day, she was taking a break. 815 00:43:37,959 --> 00:43:41,458 She was on the porch, and this was in 2011, 816 00:43:41,458 --> 00:43:43,500 and she fell through a guard rail, 817 00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:45,250 or a hand rail, on the porch. 818 00:43:45,250 --> 00:43:46,750 Took a fall and went down. 819 00:43:46,750 --> 00:43:49,000 Hurt her back and her hip, 820 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,041 and went and got prescribed these, 821 00:43:52,041 --> 00:43:53,667 you know, monster painkillers. 822 00:43:53,667 --> 00:43:56,500 It could have been anything from Vicodin, 823 00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:58,291 OxyCodone, I'm not sure. 824 00:43:58,291 --> 00:44:01,709 I know it was one of the heavier ones just by the way she described it. 825 00:44:01,709 --> 00:44:04,208 And they gave her enough 826 00:44:04,208 --> 00:44:07,208 that, by the time the prescription ran out, 827 00:44:07,208 --> 00:44:09,166 she needed more. 828 00:44:09,166 --> 00:44:11,542 And, then, this one night, 829 00:44:11,542 --> 00:44:14,375 I came up the stairs to go into the bathroom, 830 00:44:14,375 --> 00:44:17,417 and Georgia was in the doorway of her room, 831 00:44:17,417 --> 00:44:20,875 and she was upset about not being able to find something. 832 00:44:20,875 --> 00:44:22,291 So I said, "Okay." 833 00:44:22,291 --> 00:44:24,709 I went into the bathroom, 834 00:44:24,709 --> 00:44:26,959 and as I shut the door, in the middle of the floor, 835 00:44:26,959 --> 00:44:28,375 was a glasses case. 836 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,208 David: Right? So. 837 00:44:31,208 --> 00:44:32,625 Somebody dropped their glasses case. 838 00:44:32,625 --> 00:44:35,792 I picked it up to put it on the counter, 839 00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:37,417 and it felt weird. 840 00:44:37,417 --> 00:44:39,291 And I opened it up, 841 00:44:39,291 --> 00:44:42,750 and there was six bags of heroin, 842 00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:45,959 and a syringe, and a couple of other things in there, and I just went... 843 00:44:45,959 --> 00:44:48,792 "Oh, no, no, no, no." You know? 844 00:44:48,792 --> 00:44:51,125 And she said she didn't know where it came from. 845 00:44:51,125 --> 00:44:53,583 "Oh, my God," you know, it was just the whole thing. 846 00:44:53,583 --> 00:44:55,667 And, and... (sighs) 847 00:44:55,667 --> 00:45:00,083 So this was probably a month before it happened. 848 00:45:00,083 --> 00:45:03,041 On Thanksgiving morning, 849 00:45:03,041 --> 00:45:06,291 Judy woke me up about five o'clock, I guess. 850 00:45:06,291 --> 00:45:09,041 And she said, "Something's wrong with Georgia. 851 00:45:09,041 --> 00:45:12,125 I can't wake her up, and she's really cold." 852 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,500 So I went into the living room, 853 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:22,625 and Georgia was sitting, 854 00:45:22,625 --> 00:45:23,959 the television was on, 855 00:45:23,959 --> 00:45:27,166 she was sitting between the couch 856 00:45:27,166 --> 00:45:29,417 and the coffee table on the floor 857 00:45:29,417 --> 00:45:31,166 with her feet out in front of her, 858 00:45:31,166 --> 00:45:32,875 and her hands folded in her lap. 859 00:45:32,875 --> 00:45:35,500 She had just leaned forward like this. 860 00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:40,625 And we had this little carpet-covered stool thing, you know, right there. 861 00:45:40,625 --> 00:45:44,208 There was a syringe laying right on top of it, 862 00:45:44,208 --> 00:45:48,625 and it looked like she had just dozed off. 863 00:45:48,625 --> 00:45:50,875 And I went over to her and I-- 864 00:45:50,875 --> 00:45:54,583 and I could-- as soon as I touched her... 865 00:45:54,583 --> 00:45:58,542 I don't know, at that point, you're just in something that you can't even... 866 00:46:00,041 --> 00:46:01,542 describe. 867 00:46:01,542 --> 00:46:04,667 Well, all of you probably could. 868 00:46:04,667 --> 00:46:07,458 So, I put my hand around her neck looking for a pulse, 869 00:46:07,458 --> 00:46:10,333 and her skin was starting to get that 870 00:46:10,333 --> 00:46:13,959 real stiff kind of, you know... 871 00:46:13,959 --> 00:46:16,792 If you've ever had a dead pet 872 00:46:16,792 --> 00:46:20,125 that you've had to pick up, you know that feeling, 873 00:46:20,125 --> 00:46:21,709 and I knew I wasn't going to find a pulse, 874 00:46:21,709 --> 00:46:24,000 and then I got around, you know, I had turned on the lights. 875 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,792 So I got around in front of her, 876 00:46:25,792 --> 00:46:27,750 and I picked her head up, 877 00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:29,667 and I looked-- 878 00:46:41,625 --> 00:46:43,750 David: I had called the police, 879 00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:46,166 and they were on their way. 880 00:46:46,166 --> 00:46:47,500 And whatever I said to Judy, 881 00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:49,583 I let her know that Georgia was gone. 882 00:46:51,208 --> 00:46:53,417 And we finally went outside 883 00:46:53,417 --> 00:46:56,208 with our son, Eli, and 884 00:46:56,208 --> 00:46:58,000 a man pulled up in a car, 885 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,375 parked across the street, and he got out with a camera, 886 00:47:01,375 --> 00:47:02,875 a big camera in his hand, 887 00:47:02,875 --> 00:47:07,125 and it was obvious that he was going to photograph the scene, 888 00:47:07,125 --> 00:47:11,041 but as he was walking toward me, 889 00:47:11,041 --> 00:47:12,333 we made eye contact, 890 00:47:12,333 --> 00:47:15,375 and he said, "I'm sorry for your loss." 891 00:47:17,417 --> 00:47:18,917 Pretty soon after that, 892 00:47:18,917 --> 00:47:22,083 they were rolling her out of the front door on a gurney... 893 00:47:25,583 --> 00:47:28,041 in a body bag. (sniffles) 894 00:47:33,083 --> 00:47:35,709 That was the last time she was here. 895 00:47:39,125 --> 00:47:44,250 This person that had been a part of my life 896 00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:47,959 for more than 26 years... 897 00:47:47,959 --> 00:47:50,959 (sniffles) would never be again. 898 00:47:52,583 --> 00:47:56,667 I know she's, uh, she's here. 899 00:47:56,667 --> 00:47:58,625 I feel her. 900 00:47:58,625 --> 00:48:01,959 And I talk to her the same way I always have. 901 00:48:03,250 --> 00:48:04,959 I miss her. 902 00:48:44,625 --> 00:48:46,959 Kelly: The last time I was with her, 903 00:48:46,959 --> 00:48:49,375 she seemed fine. 904 00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:57,333 Her outlook on things was hopeful. 905 00:49:00,083 --> 00:49:02,166 And then... 906 00:49:02,166 --> 00:49:03,667 all of a sudden, nothing. 907 00:49:03,667 --> 00:49:06,625 She's not answering the phone. 908 00:49:06,625 --> 00:49:09,000 She's not answering the door. 909 00:49:15,333 --> 00:49:19,333 She started this relapse around the time 910 00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:21,333 of Ashley's birthday. 911 00:49:27,875 --> 00:49:29,500 Stephany? 912 00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:32,166 Kelly: And, when she's using, it's a very dark, 913 00:49:32,166 --> 00:49:34,208 small, closed world. 914 00:49:36,166 --> 00:49:37,333 Stephany? 915 00:49:44,041 --> 00:49:45,709 Steph? 916 00:49:48,417 --> 00:49:49,792 Kelly: What happened? 917 00:49:49,792 --> 00:49:51,583 We were together. 918 00:49:51,583 --> 00:49:53,583 We were making plans. 919 00:49:58,458 --> 00:50:01,208 Kelly: Nobody's given up on you, please. 920 00:50:02,875 --> 00:50:04,625 Please, honey. 921 00:50:04,625 --> 00:50:07,417 You can't do it on your own, sweetie. 922 00:50:09,625 --> 00:50:12,792 You tried, you gotta go in. 923 00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:21,959 Kelly: Why don't you get up, and... 924 00:50:21,959 --> 00:50:25,125 you come back to the house, take a nice hot shower. 925 00:50:25,125 --> 00:50:28,250 You'll feel better. Get dressed. 926 00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:31,583 Okay? You ready? 927 00:50:31,583 --> 00:50:32,792 Yeah. 928 00:50:38,083 --> 00:50:39,792 Kelly: Okay. 929 00:51:13,333 --> 00:51:16,959 Oh, it feels a lot nicer in here. 930 00:51:16,959 --> 00:51:18,959 Laura: Better than the majority of my clients. 931 00:51:21,208 --> 00:51:22,959 I'm going to sit here. 932 00:51:22,959 --> 00:51:25,959 Kelly: You want to try a little protein? 933 00:51:25,959 --> 00:51:27,333 Whatever. Looks good. 934 00:51:27,333 --> 00:51:30,000 Kelly: They're not chilled. I was drinking... (indistinct) 935 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,750 Laura: I can get some for you if you want-- 936 00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:34,625 Like ice tea, like this is really good. 937 00:51:34,625 --> 00:51:38,583 Well, drink the ice tea. There's a, a pot of it in there, too. 938 00:51:38,583 --> 00:51:41,041 If you want, I'll chill this, this is good for you. 939 00:51:41,041 --> 00:51:44,000 All right. Kelly: I don't know how well you've been eating. 940 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,041 I haven't eaten in like two days. 941 00:51:47,041 --> 00:51:49,834 I just need my clothes. 942 00:51:49,834 --> 00:51:51,875 Kelly: Clothes? You've got them. 943 00:52:07,125 --> 00:52:08,375 Laura: Mm-hmm. 944 00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:10,709 I'm worried about that too. 945 00:52:10,709 --> 00:52:12,208 Steph? 946 00:52:12,208 --> 00:52:15,125 What are you doing? Stephany: I'm taking my medication! 947 00:52:15,125 --> 00:52:17,417 You okay? Yes. 948 00:52:34,208 --> 00:52:36,709 And I can't straighten it or close it. 949 00:52:41,917 --> 00:52:45,542 Laura: This is the spoon of a heroin user. 950 00:52:45,542 --> 00:52:47,875 She had it in her bag. 951 00:52:51,792 --> 00:52:55,959 Stephany is feeling very anxious right now. 952 00:52:55,959 --> 00:52:57,750 She's gonna be going into rehab. 953 00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:59,750 She knows that she can't use. 954 00:53:05,417 --> 00:53:09,291 The program that we started is called "A Way Out." 955 00:53:09,291 --> 00:53:10,875 We have seven police departments 956 00:53:10,875 --> 00:53:12,875 in our county that are participating, 957 00:53:12,875 --> 00:53:16,000 and someone can walk into the police department and say, 958 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,125 "I need help." 959 00:53:17,125 --> 00:53:20,375 No repercussions whatsoever. 960 00:53:30,208 --> 00:53:31,583 Okay. (retches) 961 00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:33,166 Okay. 962 00:53:34,625 --> 00:53:36,834 Okay. 963 00:53:36,834 --> 00:53:38,125 All right. 964 00:53:49,291 --> 00:53:52,709 If you do have any sort of paraphernalia or drugs-- 965 00:53:52,709 --> 00:53:54,375 Stephany: I got-- gave it all to my mom. 966 00:53:54,375 --> 00:53:56,125 Yeah, I've done her laundry before, 967 00:53:56,125 --> 00:53:59,041 and I've asked her, "Is there anything in there that will poke me?" 968 00:53:59,041 --> 00:54:00,458 Like how-- how many bags? 969 00:54:00,458 --> 00:54:04,458 I just have, like, a backpack and, like, a carry bag 970 00:54:04,458 --> 00:54:08,542 with clothes in it for when I go. Okay. So, what we'll do on, on our end, 971 00:54:08,542 --> 00:54:10,792 is we'll go through it. Okay? Kelly: Yeah, that's... 972 00:54:10,792 --> 00:54:12,709 just in case, she might-- It's part of the program, 973 00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:15,875 so, whatever we find, it just gets disposed of. 974 00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:46,000 Stephany: I definitely did not know that that one was there, Officer. 975 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,375 Just a little bit. 976 00:54:49,041 --> 00:54:50,959 Kelly: What is it? 977 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,375 It's like really embarrassing. Officer: Okay. 978 00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:56,667 It happens. 979 00:55:02,875 --> 00:55:06,709 Hi, this is Officer Jake Anderson with the Mundelein Police Department. 980 00:55:06,709 --> 00:55:08,875 I am calling with an "A Way Out" participant. 981 00:55:10,875 --> 00:55:12,083 Hi. 982 00:55:13,417 --> 00:55:14,583 Oh. 983 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,875 Sure. 984 00:55:19,875 --> 00:55:22,667 Well, I have, I've suffered with kidney stones. 985 00:55:22,667 --> 00:55:26,041 That's how I got addicted to opiates was 986 00:55:26,041 --> 00:55:30,041 I had been getting kidney stones since I was sixteen, 987 00:55:30,041 --> 00:55:32,375 but that's it. 988 00:55:34,917 --> 00:55:36,208 Okay. 989 00:55:42,458 --> 00:55:43,750 Stephany: Okay. 990 00:55:53,792 --> 00:55:57,250 Kelly: I do blame prescription opioids 991 00:55:57,250 --> 00:55:59,083 for my daughter's addiction. 992 00:56:03,625 --> 00:56:07,041 I never pieced together 993 00:56:07,041 --> 00:56:10,834 how does one become an I.V. drug user. 994 00:56:10,834 --> 00:56:14,667 That was... that was the bridge right there. 995 00:56:14,667 --> 00:56:16,166 Officer: Are you ready? 996 00:56:16,166 --> 00:56:18,792 Yep. I'll help you carry some stuff here. 997 00:56:20,709 --> 00:56:24,166 Kelly: She was still a teenager when she started with 'em... 998 00:56:24,166 --> 00:56:27,667 these really high-powered pills. 999 00:56:32,250 --> 00:56:35,625 And I trusted the doctors. 1000 00:59:46,792 --> 00:59:49,041 DANIEL EDNEY: I had been in pain for a good while. 1001 00:59:49,041 --> 00:59:53,375 The pain was basically a chronic, unrelenting 1002 00:59:53,375 --> 00:59:55,333 burning feeling in my neck, 1003 00:59:55,667 --> 00:59:58,834 and that would just through the day 1004 00:59:58,834 --> 01:00:00,291 just get worse and worse. 1005 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,792 I could work a whole day with no pain, 1006 01:00:03,792 --> 01:00:06,458 and I just was able to rock along 1007 01:00:07,083 --> 01:00:09,625 very well for a couple years. 1008 01:00:10,417 --> 01:00:14,500 Then the doses escalated and it became compulsive using. 1009 01:00:15,208 --> 01:00:16,917 You move from Hydrocodone 1010 01:00:17,291 --> 01:00:21,333 to Oxycodone, which is one and a half times as strong. 1011 01:00:21,834 --> 01:00:24,166 And then you get to where that's not working 1012 01:00:24,458 --> 01:00:25,750 and you move to Oxycontin. 1013 01:00:26,250 --> 01:00:28,417 And then you get to where that's not working, 1014 01:00:28,417 --> 01:00:29,667 and you add, you know, 1015 01:00:29,917 --> 01:00:32,333 some Oxycodone short-acting for breakthrough. 1016 01:00:32,792 --> 01:00:34,041 And then that's not working, 1017 01:00:34,542 --> 01:00:38,083 and then you move to drugs like Fentanyl and Methadone. 1018 01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:54,125 MEL POHL: As I think back to Dr. Dan's case, 1019 01:00:54,125 --> 01:00:56,208 if he would have been willing to give up 1020 01:00:56,208 --> 01:00:58,000 his ability to practice medicine 1021 01:00:58,458 --> 01:01:01,041 in order to be able to take drugs to relieve pain, 1022 01:01:01,250 --> 01:01:03,333 that's pathological pursuit of relief. 1023 01:01:03,959 --> 01:01:05,500 POHL: Some deep breaths for me, please. 1024 01:01:05,792 --> 01:01:07,542 The conclusion of our team was 1025 01:01:07,709 --> 01:01:09,375 that he had the disease of addiction 1026 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,208 driven by his chronic pain condition. 1027 01:01:19,959 --> 01:01:24,041 The only way I can bring good of this hell 1028 01:01:24,041 --> 01:01:25,709 is to help somebody else. 1029 01:01:27,125 --> 01:01:30,583 I had to find a way to treat folks with my illness, 1030 01:01:30,917 --> 01:01:34,250 but who couldn't afford to go to treatment for a month. 1031 01:01:40,208 --> 01:01:43,083 And I knew the only solution was to get them off 1032 01:01:43,083 --> 01:01:44,083 of the opioids. 1033 01:01:44,417 --> 01:01:45,792 When was your last dose of Oxy? 1034 01:01:45,792 --> 01:01:47,458 Um, about an hour and a half ago. 1035 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,875 EDNEY: And I knew that I had to detox them 1036 01:01:50,875 --> 01:01:53,041 as an outpatient in an affordable fashion 1037 01:01:53,041 --> 01:01:54,792 where they could keep working. 1038 01:01:55,125 --> 01:01:57,709 And so I knew I had to use beprenorphine. 1039 01:01:57,709 --> 01:01:59,000 NURSE: Blood pressure good. 1040 01:01:59,291 --> 01:02:02,625 EDNEY: Beprenorphine makes the conversion off opioids 1041 01:02:02,625 --> 01:02:03,834 so much easier. 1042 01:02:04,291 --> 01:02:06,583 Their quality of life improves, they start eating again, 1043 01:02:06,583 --> 01:02:08,000 and they start functioning again, 1044 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,000 they start thinking clearly again. 1045 01:02:10,333 --> 01:02:12,709 And the families have their loved ones back. 1046 01:02:13,291 --> 01:02:14,291 How are you today? 1047 01:02:14,834 --> 01:02:18,750 You're still getting pain relief with your beprenorphine? 1048 01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:20,458 -No, yes, sir. Yes, sir. -EDNEY: Okay. 1049 01:02:20,458 --> 01:02:21,750 It's worth a lot to me. 1050 01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:23,500 I mean, I can tell a big difference. 1051 01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:26,375 I'm doing normal stuff with my kids, uh, 1052 01:02:26,375 --> 01:02:27,291 going fishing. 1053 01:02:27,875 --> 01:02:29,291 You know, me and my wife went fishing last weekend. 1054 01:02:29,291 --> 01:02:30,792 And just, you know, do my meditation 1055 01:02:30,792 --> 01:02:33,375 and, you know, I do my stretches and my exercises. 1056 01:02:33,375 --> 01:02:34,500 I get my mind focused. 1057 01:02:34,875 --> 01:02:36,917 I mean, I understand now that I'm gonna have pain. 1058 01:02:36,917 --> 01:02:38,834 I mean, it's just a part of life. 1059 01:03:14,667 --> 01:03:16,041 In the midst of an epidemic, 1060 01:03:16,041 --> 01:03:18,875 where overdoses on opioids 1061 01:03:18,875 --> 01:03:21,750 are now a leading cause of death in the United States, 1062 01:03:22,166 --> 01:03:25,291 it's a no brainer that we should be making 1063 01:03:25,291 --> 01:03:27,542 an antidote for an opioid overdose 1064 01:03:27,542 --> 01:03:32,208 like Narcan or naloxone as available as possible. 1065 01:03:36,125 --> 01:03:38,583 NORA VOLKOW: What happens is you have your receptor, 1066 01:03:38,583 --> 01:03:40,417 you have your drug like heroin 1067 01:03:40,417 --> 01:03:42,583 or Fentanyl, say, for example. 1068 01:03:43,166 --> 01:03:45,542 Then the drug, morphine, Fentanyl, 1069 01:03:45,542 --> 01:03:48,375 are inhibiting the respiratory centers. 1070 01:03:48,709 --> 01:03:50,375 So there you give Narcan, 1071 01:03:50,375 --> 01:03:53,542 and Narcan comes in and pushes that drug out, 1072 01:03:53,542 --> 01:03:56,375 does not allow for the drug to come back in. 1073 01:03:56,792 --> 01:03:58,750 Therefore, the respiratory center 1074 01:03:58,750 --> 01:04:01,041 is no longer inhibited. That's how it works. 1075 01:04:01,041 --> 01:04:04,709 ANDREW KOLODNY: You inject the patient with naloxone. 1076 01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:08,250 MECHANICAL VOICE: Five, four, three... 1077 01:04:08,250 --> 01:04:10,250 KOLODNY: You squirt it up their nose, 1078 01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:13,375 it kicks the opioid off the receptor, 1079 01:04:13,375 --> 01:04:15,417 and the patient starts breathing again, 1080 01:04:15,417 --> 01:04:16,417 and their color comes back. 1081 01:04:16,875 --> 01:04:20,083 Our strategy has been to deliver products 1082 01:04:20,083 --> 01:04:25,959 that will make naloxone as widely available as possible. 1083 01:04:25,959 --> 01:04:28,250 We should see that it's in every household 1084 01:04:28,250 --> 01:04:30,417 where somebody might have opioid addition. 1085 01:04:30,709 --> 01:04:33,083 Hospitals, college dorms, 1086 01:04:33,083 --> 01:04:34,834 and maybe even high schools. 1087 01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:36,917 Any possible setting 1088 01:04:37,250 --> 01:04:39,458 where somebody might be opioid-addicted. 1089 01:04:39,667 --> 01:04:42,125 We are focusing on naloxone so heavily 1090 01:04:42,125 --> 01:04:44,583 because I would have loved to have had it 1091 01:04:44,583 --> 01:04:46,625 when my brother Alex were experiencing 1092 01:04:46,625 --> 01:04:48,000 what he was going through. 1093 01:04:53,834 --> 01:04:57,083 When we first decided to focus on naloxone, 1094 01:04:57,417 --> 01:04:58,834 people were literally like, 1095 01:04:59,250 --> 01:05:01,959 "So we're gonna enable people to keep using drugs? 1096 01:05:01,959 --> 01:05:03,333 That's what we're doing now?" 1097 01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:05,834 Well, maybe if we do revive them, 1098 01:05:06,208 --> 01:05:07,667 we have an opportunity to intervene. 1099 01:05:07,667 --> 01:05:09,625 Maybe they don't want to live that life anymore. 1100 01:05:09,625 --> 01:05:14,250 It's so important if you are doing a reversal of an overdose 1101 01:05:14,625 --> 01:05:17,125 to refer that patient to treatment 1102 01:05:17,125 --> 01:05:18,792 for their substance use disorders. 1103 01:05:18,792 --> 01:05:23,500 Intervening and linking to care is what we are promoting. 1104 01:05:23,667 --> 01:05:27,750 Recognizing that it is a very serious 1105 01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:29,542 and chronic disease, 1106 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,750 where the likelihood of relapse is actually quite high. 1107 01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:35,333 Just because it doesn't happen the first time 1108 01:05:35,542 --> 01:05:37,417 doesn't mean it can't happen the fourth or the fifth time. 1109 01:05:37,417 --> 01:05:39,542 Because I have so many people in my life 1110 01:05:39,542 --> 01:05:42,709 who have been revived several times by naloxone, 1111 01:05:43,166 --> 01:05:44,583 and they're out there doing great things 1112 01:05:44,583 --> 01:05:46,000 with their lives. 1113 01:06:25,875 --> 01:06:28,750 GARY MENDELL: When he went to college the first year, 1114 01:06:29,709 --> 01:06:32,667 I suspect he may have been exposed to opiates. 1115 01:06:34,709 --> 01:06:37,208 And I think that's where it started, in college. 1116 01:06:40,709 --> 01:06:43,041 Brian went to eight different treatment programs. 1117 01:06:43,333 --> 01:06:44,792 In the eighth program he went to, 1118 01:06:45,417 --> 01:06:47,625 the psychiatrist called us after a couple days 1119 01:06:47,625 --> 01:06:49,417 and said, "I want to put Brian on Suboxone." 1120 01:06:49,625 --> 01:06:51,125 MENDELL: It was the only treatment program 1121 01:06:51,417 --> 01:06:53,250 that he ever called and said, "Dad, can I stay longer?" 1122 01:06:53,250 --> 01:06:54,750 He said, "They really get it." 1123 01:06:54,959 --> 01:06:57,667 And he had gone a year without using. 1124 01:06:58,250 --> 01:07:00,208 Then they recommended that he go out 1125 01:07:00,208 --> 01:07:01,291 to a halfway house, 1126 01:07:01,583 --> 01:07:03,208 and it was really hard to find a place 1127 01:07:03,208 --> 01:07:05,000 that would take someone on Suboxone. 1128 01:07:05,291 --> 01:07:09,625 We found a place in Venice Beach out in Los Angeles. 1129 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,709 Brian was there two days, and I get a call from-- 1130 01:07:13,709 --> 01:07:15,083 a frantic call from him. 1131 01:07:15,083 --> 01:07:17,375 He said, "Dad, I just met with a psychiatrist. 1132 01:07:17,375 --> 01:07:18,792 I walked in and he said, 1133 01:07:18,792 --> 01:07:20,250 'Oh, I see you're on Suboxone. 1134 01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:22,375 I don't believe in it. You have to get off.'" 1135 01:07:32,792 --> 01:07:35,542 Abstinence-based approaches 1136 01:07:35,959 --> 01:07:40,500 don't work very well for opioid addiction. 1137 01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:43,375 Most patients who are addicted to opioids 1138 01:07:43,375 --> 01:07:46,041 are going to need to be managed with a medicine 1139 01:07:46,041 --> 01:07:49,125 like buprenorphine, which is also called Suboxone. 1140 01:07:49,333 --> 01:07:52,792 There are three different types of medication assisted therapy. 1141 01:07:53,166 --> 01:07:57,291 The one that's most known for... to everyone is methadone. 1142 01:07:57,667 --> 01:07:59,709 Uh, second one is buprenorphine, 1143 01:07:59,917 --> 01:08:04,208 and a more recent development is extended release naltrexone. 1144 01:08:04,208 --> 01:08:08,417 Those treatments are unfortunately seen by some 1145 01:08:08,625 --> 01:08:10,500 as not really treatment. 1146 01:08:10,875 --> 01:08:15,000 That it's just substituting one drug for another. 1147 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,166 It's a very common reaction to it, is you are changing 1148 01:08:18,166 --> 01:08:19,750 one drug for the other. 1149 01:08:19,750 --> 01:08:21,375 So how are you helping the patient? 1150 01:08:21,583 --> 01:08:24,542 Instead of heroin, now they are on buprenorphine. 1151 01:08:25,125 --> 01:08:28,000 Without an understanding that actually 1152 01:08:28,291 --> 01:08:30,750 the effects of buprenorphine or methadone 1153 01:08:30,750 --> 01:08:33,291 are different from the effects of heroin. 1154 01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:36,291 ANDREW KOLODNY: It's kind of like putting a nicotine patch 1155 01:08:36,500 --> 01:08:38,583 on a smoker. They're not thinking about 1156 01:08:38,583 --> 01:08:40,291 "when am I gonna have my next cigarette," 1157 01:08:40,542 --> 01:08:42,667 because they're getting a little bit of nicotine 1158 01:08:42,667 --> 01:08:44,166 in their-- their bloodstream. 1159 01:08:44,417 --> 01:08:48,500 Somebody's who's opioid addicted and takes their buprenorphine 1160 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,583 gets enough of a response from that drug 1161 01:08:52,583 --> 01:08:55,125 that their cravings are well controlled, 1162 01:08:55,375 --> 01:08:58,875 and they don't experience the physical withdrawal. 1163 01:09:08,542 --> 01:09:11,500 You have a situation where 1164 01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:13,917 middle class, working class families 1165 01:09:14,208 --> 01:09:17,417 have a loved one suffering from opioid addiction. 1166 01:09:17,834 --> 01:09:20,875 In some cases, they're emptying out their bank account 1167 01:09:21,250 --> 01:09:26,500 to send their family member to a 28-day rehab somewhere, 1168 01:09:26,792 --> 01:09:30,375 and then their family member comes back out of rehab 1169 01:09:30,375 --> 01:09:32,667 and within a week relapses. 1170 01:09:32,959 --> 01:09:36,083 I want families to know that addiction is a disease, 1171 01:09:36,417 --> 01:09:38,583 that it is a chronic disease, 1172 01:09:38,583 --> 01:09:42,458 which means that the changes in the brain produced by drugs 1173 01:09:42,458 --> 01:09:44,041 are very long lasting, 1174 01:09:44,250 --> 01:09:46,792 and actually last months or years 1175 01:09:46,792 --> 01:09:49,250 after the person stops taking the drug. 1176 01:09:49,250 --> 01:09:51,250 But I also want to tell the families 1177 01:09:51,250 --> 01:09:52,917 that addiction can be treated, 1178 01:09:53,250 --> 01:09:57,750 and that it will for success require continuity of treatment. 1179 01:09:57,750 --> 01:10:01,500 That it needs to be treated like a chronic disease 1180 01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:02,417 that it is. 1181 01:10:03,125 --> 01:10:07,250 And that recovery is possible if you institute treatment. 1182 01:10:46,792 --> 01:10:50,125 DANIEL EDNEY: I was taught in the mid to late eighties 1183 01:10:50,125 --> 01:10:53,959 that opiates and opioids were used for acute pain, 1184 01:10:53,959 --> 01:10:56,458 for acute injuries like a broken bone, 1185 01:10:56,458 --> 01:10:59,417 for postoperative pain which is acute and self-limited. 1186 01:10:59,417 --> 01:11:01,875 All the acute pain syndromes that you expect 1187 01:11:01,875 --> 01:11:04,125 to be under control within two weeks. 1188 01:11:04,333 --> 01:11:06,250 Opioids are the drug of choice. 1189 01:11:06,250 --> 01:11:09,625 They work wonderfully well. It's why they were designed. 1190 01:11:09,625 --> 01:11:10,959 I mean, I'm shaking. 1191 01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:15,208 JANE BALLANTYNE: We used opiates generously for people who are dying, 1192 01:11:15,208 --> 01:11:18,959 and very generously for people who had acute pain, 1193 01:11:19,166 --> 01:11:22,041 people who'd had surgery, people who'd had trauma. 1194 01:11:22,417 --> 01:11:26,709 We'd never used opiates at all for people with chronic pain. 1195 01:11:29,333 --> 01:11:31,750 EDNEY: Something big happened in the mid-nineties 1196 01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:33,542 with the release of Oxycontin. 1197 01:11:33,542 --> 01:11:35,291 Uh, we were re-educated, 1198 01:11:35,291 --> 01:11:36,959 and what we were taught in medical school 1199 01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:38,667 and residency was incorrect, 1200 01:11:39,041 --> 01:11:42,458 that the risk of addiction in the chronic pain population 1201 01:11:42,458 --> 01:11:46,333 was virtually zero as long as they had legitimate pain. 1202 01:11:46,333 --> 01:11:50,709 When Purdue Pharma launched Oxycontin, 1203 01:11:51,208 --> 01:11:53,250 it was interested in a blockbuster drug. 1204 01:11:53,542 --> 01:11:56,834 Some patients may be afraid of taking opioids 1205 01:11:56,834 --> 01:11:59,000 because they're perceived as too strong, 1206 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,834 or addictive. But that is far from actual fact. 1207 01:12:03,375 --> 01:12:07,792 They launched a brilliant campaign that re-framed 1208 01:12:07,792 --> 01:12:10,709 all of these very good reasons for being cautious 1209 01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:15,166 with opioids as barriers to compassionate pain care. 1210 01:12:15,875 --> 01:12:18,750 The Joint Commission sets the rules for hospitals 1211 01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:21,000 in the United States that they have to follow, 1212 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,417 and the Joint Commission was told that we're 1213 01:12:23,417 --> 01:12:27,041 under-treating pain, and then agreed to create 1214 01:12:27,041 --> 01:12:30,792 new rules so that every patient who comes to a hospital 1215 01:12:31,083 --> 01:12:33,458 would be asked about their pain. 1216 01:12:37,959 --> 01:12:40,458 The opioid crisis had really been caused 1217 01:12:40,458 --> 01:12:43,000 by the medical community writing too many 1218 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,750 opioid prescriptions, 1219 01:12:44,750 --> 01:12:49,083 and we realized that opioids were being over-prescribed 1220 01:12:49,083 --> 01:12:52,625 because our colleagues had been badly misinformed, 1221 01:12:52,625 --> 01:12:56,291 and you're starting to see policy-makers ask 1222 01:12:56,583 --> 01:12:59,166 why every grandma's got painkillers 1223 01:12:59,166 --> 01:13:00,709 in her medicine chest. 1224 01:13:00,959 --> 01:13:04,208 You're starting to finally see recognition that 1225 01:13:04,208 --> 01:13:05,750 it's an addiction epidemic. 1226 01:13:10,375 --> 01:13:15,875 We can stop the initiation of inappropriate opiate use 1227 01:13:16,166 --> 01:13:19,750 in its tracks by following the new CDC guidelines, 1228 01:13:19,959 --> 01:13:24,083 by... using very little opioids, if any, 1229 01:13:24,417 --> 01:13:25,542 for acute pain. 1230 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,875 So if you have a wisdom tooth extracted, or if you have 1231 01:13:27,875 --> 01:13:30,458 a sports injury, you go to the urgent care center 1232 01:13:30,458 --> 01:13:33,667 or your doctor, no more than three days or ten pills 1233 01:13:33,667 --> 01:13:36,375 of an opioid, of a short-acting opioid. 1234 01:13:36,375 --> 01:13:38,166 This is the worst man-made epidemic 1235 01:13:38,166 --> 01:13:41,208 in modern medical history, and it's up to all of us 1236 01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:43,542 as healthcare leaders and clinicians 1237 01:13:43,542 --> 01:13:46,333 to reverse this thing. We need to do it now. 1238 01:13:46,667 --> 01:13:48,834 We needed to do it ten years ago. 1239 01:14:15,166 --> 01:14:17,417 We have about ten to twelve million Americans 1240 01:14:17,417 --> 01:14:20,041 who have been put on long-term opioids. 1241 01:14:20,417 --> 01:14:22,667 The best available evidence is telling us that 1242 01:14:22,667 --> 01:14:23,917 they're not doing well. 1243 01:14:24,208 --> 01:14:27,041 Many have had a decline in their function 1244 01:14:27,500 --> 01:14:29,083 and their pain has not improved. 1245 01:14:29,083 --> 01:14:31,500 Maybe their pain has gotten worse. 1246 01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,875 So very, very high doses of opiates 1247 01:14:33,875 --> 01:14:35,875 can actually produce pain. 1248 01:14:35,875 --> 01:14:37,500 So instead of making pain better, 1249 01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:38,917 they actually make pain worse. 1250 01:14:39,208 --> 01:14:42,083 Most common chronic pain conditions that are currently 1251 01:14:42,083 --> 01:14:44,959 treated with opiates probably shouldn't be treated 1252 01:14:44,959 --> 01:14:47,375 with opiates at all, other than possibly 1253 01:14:47,583 --> 01:14:50,625 for three days of an acute attack. 1254 01:14:51,041 --> 01:14:53,792 So, for example, a back sprain injury. 1255 01:14:54,041 --> 01:14:56,208 Use opiates for three days, get moving again, 1256 01:14:56,208 --> 01:14:59,750 and then stop completely, just like the CDC recommends. 1257 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,125 The question we're often asked... 1258 01:15:01,125 --> 01:15:03,417 "If not opioids, what then?" 1259 01:15:04,083 --> 01:15:08,542 And we need, as physicians, to have lots 1260 01:15:08,542 --> 01:15:10,250 of "what then" answers. 1261 01:15:10,250 --> 01:15:13,667 We know they do much better with simple things 1262 01:15:13,959 --> 01:15:15,000 like exercise. 1263 01:15:15,375 --> 01:15:18,166 Yoga and acupuncture and massage... 1264 01:15:18,166 --> 01:15:20,208 Behavioral, physical therapy. 1265 01:15:20,667 --> 01:15:22,250 Spiritual support for a person 1266 01:15:22,250 --> 01:15:25,125 to renavigate their life, uh, and to take control 1267 01:15:25,125 --> 01:15:28,250 over this sensation of pain. 1268 01:15:28,250 --> 01:15:30,667 You have to take care of a complex problem 1269 01:15:30,667 --> 01:15:35,083 with a complex solution, which is not gonna come 1270 01:15:35,083 --> 01:15:36,583 in the form of a pill. 1271 01:16:08,208 --> 01:16:10,000 DETECTIVE MICHAEL DILLON: Here in Northern New Jersey, 1272 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,083 we've seen a spike in the number of accidental overdoses. 1273 01:16:13,834 --> 01:16:16,000 Tonight we're doing Operation Take Back, 1274 01:16:16,667 --> 01:16:20,458 so unwanted prescriptions can be anonymously disposed of. 1275 01:16:21,875 --> 01:16:24,333 When you put unwanted medications into the garbage, 1276 01:16:24,333 --> 01:16:26,834 you risk either having them stolen from their garbage 1277 01:16:27,041 --> 01:16:29,792 or taken by an individual who's in their house. 1278 01:16:29,792 --> 01:16:30,875 Could be a family member. 1279 01:16:31,417 --> 01:16:33,166 Somebody during a real estate open house. 1280 01:16:34,083 --> 01:16:36,000 Anonymously drop the medication, 1281 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,250 and what we do is periodically collect it and bring it 1282 01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:42,667 through armed escort to a incinerator. 1283 01:16:42,667 --> 01:16:45,709 Where the medications are all incinerated and destroyed. 1284 01:16:48,041 --> 01:16:49,917 JOHN G. WAFFENSCHMIDT: When we started this program, 1285 01:16:49,917 --> 01:16:52,333 energy-from-waste, it was because 1286 01:16:52,333 --> 01:16:55,500 the pharmaceutical drugs were going into waterways. 1287 01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:59,333 Eighty percent of waterways have pharmaceutical agents in it. 1288 01:16:59,333 --> 01:17:00,458 It affects the fish. 1289 01:17:00,917 --> 01:17:02,917 So what we want to do is encourage people 1290 01:17:02,917 --> 01:17:04,667 not to flush them down the toilet. 1291 01:17:04,667 --> 01:17:07,792 Because once it's burned, there's no chance at all 1292 01:17:07,792 --> 01:17:11,208 for groundwater or surface water contamination. 1293 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,041 OFFICER GARY MANKOWITZ: I'm very happy with our department 1294 01:17:14,041 --> 01:17:15,917 participating in this great program, 1295 01:17:15,917 --> 01:17:17,500 because we are saving lives. 1296 01:17:17,500 --> 01:17:20,709 Every time somebody dumps this into our mailbox 1297 01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:21,709 and we clean it out, 1298 01:17:22,250 --> 01:17:24,500 that's somebody who's protecting their children 1299 01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:26,291 from getting it. Their grandchildren. 1300 01:17:26,291 --> 01:17:29,083 Their sisters. Brothers. It could be anybody. 1301 01:17:29,083 --> 01:17:30,083 It's insane, 1302 01:17:30,625 --> 01:17:32,208 the amount of prescriptions that are out there, 1303 01:17:32,208 --> 01:17:34,542 and how easily they are prescribed to people. 1304 01:18:08,959 --> 01:18:11,959 This crisis, is in my view, 1305 01:18:12,166 --> 01:18:16,250 the single public health crisis we face as a country. 1306 01:18:16,250 --> 01:18:18,125 I worked with my legislature 1307 01:18:18,125 --> 01:18:21,083 to put in a number of different pieces of legislation 1308 01:18:21,083 --> 01:18:22,250 to stem this epidemic. 1309 01:18:22,750 --> 01:18:25,875 One in particular, which was a bit controversial at the time, 1310 01:18:25,875 --> 01:18:27,875 but we were successful in passing it, 1311 01:18:27,875 --> 01:18:30,375 was limiting the number of doses 1312 01:18:30,667 --> 01:18:35,500 that physicians can prescribe in the first instance for, uh... 1313 01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:37,000 prescription painkillers. 1314 01:18:37,458 --> 01:18:40,000 It shouldn't be the case that it's an automatic 30 days 1315 01:18:40,291 --> 01:18:44,667 of OxyContin, or an automatic 60 days. We said it should be... 1316 01:18:44,667 --> 01:18:45,792 five or six days. 1317 01:18:46,333 --> 01:18:48,500 And then check in with the physician and let the physician 1318 01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:50,333 have discretion to do what comes next. 1319 01:18:50,625 --> 01:18:53,250 Because we're really trying to cut down on... 1320 01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:56,125 a leftover half a bottle of pills, which goes to a friend. 1321 01:18:56,125 --> 01:18:58,750 That person gets hooked and that person winds up addicted. 1322 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,834 We...provided funding to make sure that 1323 01:19:06,834 --> 01:19:09,417 all first responders in Rhode Island, 1324 01:19:09,417 --> 01:19:13,291 in every single city and town, have access to naloxone. 1325 01:19:13,709 --> 01:19:15,583 The colonel of the state police and I... 1326 01:19:15,834 --> 01:19:18,333 literally passed out in paper bags... 1327 01:19:18,583 --> 01:19:22,166 naloxone to every police chief. 1328 01:19:22,375 --> 01:19:24,333 Every single city and town in Rhode Island. 1329 01:19:29,333 --> 01:19:31,458 This is a disease. We know how to treat it. 1330 01:19:31,458 --> 01:19:33,792 We have a huge effort in Rhode Island, 1331 01:19:33,792 --> 01:19:36,333 and we're starting to see some success 1332 01:19:36,333 --> 01:19:37,709 training physicians... 1333 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,667 to... know how to do the medical assisted treatment. 1334 01:19:42,083 --> 01:19:45,250 It costs money. And a lot of folks are on Medicaid. 1335 01:19:45,250 --> 01:19:47,917 If the federal government cuts off our Medicaid, 1336 01:19:48,166 --> 01:19:50,834 and reduces our ability to treat folks 1337 01:19:50,834 --> 01:19:52,583 with medical assisted treatment... 1338 01:19:53,083 --> 01:19:55,208 we will lose lives. It's that simple. 1339 01:19:55,208 --> 01:19:58,542 There's no more important thing that a governor could be working on than this. 98931

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