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everybody at that time italian americans
at the time were very unhappy with mario
puzo's book the godfather because it was
kind of disparaging it felt that way to
italian americans in general that
everybody thinks you know if your name
ends in a vowel and you're italian
you're somehow associated with the mafia
so people took offense to it when they
heard that a movie was being made well
joe colombo said this movie's not going
to be made why let me tell you the
timing
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okay today is something very interesting
the television series the offer which is
put out by paramount studios the same
studio that made the godfather it is
kind of uh a story about the making of
the godfather you can get it on
paramount plus and that's the streaming
platform for paramount they've done
three episodes they've released so far
i've watched all three of them and i'm
going to talk about it today i'm not
going to tell you everything we're not
going to go over you know scene by scene
but i think some interesting facts from
behind the scene facts that you may not
be aware of what's interesting to me is
that they're kind of telling two stories
here one they're telling the story of
joe colombo and the italian-american
civil rights league how he kind of got
into trouble it was eventually his
demise being part of that league and
they're telling of his involvement with
the making of the godfather and of
course the making of the godfather
itself which is always a difficult task
getting a movie made you know when you
see these blockbuster films these great
movies you think oh you know it's such a
well-oiled machine and everybody's
agreeing with one another and these
things get done like that not true so
often there's so much fighting and
infighting in the studio when they
finance and distribute the film they
certainly everybody there wants to put
their hand print on it there's always
back and forth disagreements about so
many things creatively it's a really
tough process that's why so many of
these films take so long to get made and
get done and there's so much controversy
throughout i know i've been involved in
a couple of them so i understand the
business i've been around it for quite a
long time but so they're telling
parallel stories here and the story is
being told through the eyes of the
producer al ruddy now i don't know al
rody let me be let me be clear on that
but my
agent friend
is very very close with al and we've
communicated through this third party
the only interesting thing i'm going to
say about that is already made a
statement to me through my friend and he
said after the making of the godfather i
will never again make another mob
related movie he didn't want anything to
do with it i was kind of surprised that
he made the offer but he didn't have to
get on the street with anybody like he
did in the godfather
so that's how difficult or that's what
his perception was of how difficult it
was to deal with joe columbo and guys uh
you know during that time so let me get
into it a little bit first of all let me
explain this this is not a documentary
so the studio did take dramatic liberty
with it i can tell you that there were a
couple of scenes in the film that i know
for a fact did not happen as it related
to joe colombo and the italian american
civil rights league and their
involvement in the making of the
godfather so i'm going to point that out
but uh again you know very very well
done i thought it was well cast i
thought everybody played a good role i
really enjoyed al rudy's actor he did a
great job miles teller i believe his
name is i enjoyed puzzle and i enjoyed
coppola i think they were great together
on film robert evans who was the studio
head the head of paramount at the time
he was well cast i happen to know of him
fairly well new people that knew him he
was kind of an eccentric kind of guy a
real studio guy dressed apart did all
the kind of motions you know the way the
way these guys do so he was cast very
well everybody was the ladies in the
film were casted very well too the
casting person was a woman and she did a
great job so there was a lot of things
that i thought were done extremely well
and you know bottom line i really
enjoyed it i thought it was great so let
me get into a couple of things as you
may or may not know joe colombo did have
a big influence on the making of the
film everybody at that time italian
americans at the time were very unhappy
with mario puzo's book the godfather
because it was kind of disparaging it
felt that way to italian americans in
general that everybody thinks you know
if your name ends in a vowel and you're
italian you're somehow associated with
the mafia so people took offense to it
when they heard that a movie was being
made well joe colombo said this movie's
not going to be made why let me tell you
the timing it was 1970 okay that joe
colombo formed the italian american
civil rights league 1970 his son joey jr
had gotten arrested and charged with
melting down coins for their silver
value was charged by the feds right
columbo was very upset it was april of
1970. i get a call at home michael were
very upset with italian americans that
keep continuously getting harassed by
the fbi there's no mafia we want you to
come down to 69th street and third
avenue we're going to picket the fbi
i was thrilled why because just a few
weeks earlier i think was march 26th it
was holy thursday just before easter
sunday when my dad was finally sent to
prison lost all his appeals after being
out for a couple of years three years i
think and they finally remanded him into
custody so it was only two or three
weeks before joe colombo started the
italian american civil rights league so
i was thrilled i said hey this is a way
to help my dad i was in my early 20s i
was one of the first people down on the
line i think the first day there was
only 30 of us that were picketing and
then obviously it grew them to thousands
and thousands i'm not going to tell the
whole league story but that's how it
began right so i'm thrilled when i get
down there they hand me a sign that says
my father was a victim of fbi gestapo
tactics he was framed and sentenced to
50 years in prison that's what was on
the sign that i was carrying right and
we're walking well at the same time that
joe colombo is protesting the fbi's
harassment of italian americans already
wants to make this movie based upon a
book the godfather that nobody liked
right so joe columbo hears about it
absolutely not we're going to use the
whole force of the league to prevent
this movie from being made so al rhodey
finds out about it now let's let's flip
sides for a minute already is trying to
get this movie made bob evans the head
of paramount picks already to be the
producer already didn't have a lot of
success at that point in time for some
reason evans wanted him al rudy is now
the producer now the producer he's main
guy you know he's got to do all the work
so he goes to mario puzo coppola and
says we're going to turn this book into
a screenplay we're going to make a movie
let me tell you a little bit more
backstory mario puzo who wrote the book
the godfather tremendous success i think
was on the bestsellers list for you know
over over a year his agent had told him
not to sell the the story to paramount
didn't want him to thought he would hold
out and make a lot more money mario puzo
was a bad gambler he was deeply in debt
from his gambling habits so he defied
his agent he sold the story to paramount
just to get the money to pay off his
gambling debts if he didn't have those
debts there may have never been a movie
with paramount very interesting but so
now ruddy pushes for puzzle and coppola
to write the script koppler's going to
direct the studio didn't want coppola
they wanted somebody more experienced a
bigger name director ruddy pushed for
him he also pushed for puzzle to write
the screenplay the studio didn't want
him because they said notoriously guys
that write books do not write good
screenplays ruddy push for the both of
them and now mario puzo and coppola are
corroborating to write this screenplay
and throughout the first three episodes
you see them writing the screenplay it's
very interesting because we're all
familiar with the movie and they're
talking about certain scenes you know
how they're in a room together and
they're working out certain scenes and
the corroboration between them i thought
was very cool and i thought it was very
well done and they were very well cast
now
ruddy has an encounter with joe colombo
and here's where i get a little bit i
don't want to say upset but i think
giovanni rabishi who's a great actor he
was cast to play joe colombo good
you know good choice because it kind of
looks like him a little bit
but the character that he played was
kind of buffoonish he made joe columbo
kind of buffoonish that wasn't true i
knew joey my whole life my father was
his underboss i knew the family very
well joe colombo was not a buffoon he
was a smart guy he carried himself well
he was the mob boss he dressed well uh
he was a meticulously dressed kind of
guy always and he carried himself very
well he wasn't portrayed like that by
rabisi and i'm not knocking ribishi
that's probably how the script showed
him anyway he has an encounter with joe
colombo joe colombo tells him straight
out you're not making this movie ruddy
was very adept i think in trying to
convince colombo that forget the book
i'm not making the movie the way the
book was it's going to be based upon
that but i'm not going to disparage
italian americans you're going to be
proud of this and it shows a scene where
they're talking and ruddy says to him
read the script you know come and read
the script if there's things you don't
like we'll talk about it so now we see
ruddy pushing coppola and puzzle to get
the script on you don't push
screenwriters they got to do that it's a
creative process you don't push them but
he's pushing him because he's got to
show colombo the scripture there's not
going to be a movie he realized that now
throughout this whole thing you see a
couple of things happening and there's
one scene when ruddy is in his bedroom
and there's a book cover of the
godfather there he opens it up and
there's a dead rat in his bed i can tell
you that never happened you know no
matter what
but again dramatic liberty they're
making a you know a tv series it's okay
but that didn't happen it didn't get to
that extent there's another scene where
joe colombo allegedly calls up mickey
cohn you know who he was the gangster
out here in california and tells mickey
cohen to intimidate al rudy so there is
a scene there when ruddy is sitting in
the car with his girlfriend and somebody
shoots out the back wind of his car i
can tell you for a fact that never
happened joe colombo did not call up
mickey cohn he didn't have a
relationship with mickey cohen number
one number two it never happened because
mickey cohn was in jail during that time
he was in prison from 1963 to 1972. the
godfather started filming in 1971 it was
released in 1972 it's their 50-year
anniversary now and that encounter never
happened but again it worked for the
television series it was a good scene
but when you watch it i'm telling you it
never happened they did take that
dramatic liberty so again throughout
this we're watching joe colombo's
influence we're watching al roddy having
to navigate joe colombo and making sure
this gets done having to navigate the
studio head robert evans who doesn't
want coppola who doesn't want puzzle and
then who finally doesn't want marlon
brando in the main role they didn't want
him studio didn't like him he's uh
notoriously difficult to work with but
puzzo and kaplan said nobody else should
play this role but him you know they
wanted sinatra to play the role he was
being considered it would have been the
wrong choice they had other people in
mind but puzzle and coppola they said no
way marlon brando if he takes this role
that's who i see as vito corleone ruddy
supported them on that eventually as we
know marlon brando did get the role the
studio was not happy about it they
actually gave him a pay cut that he
accepted and they had certain
stipulations in his contract if he
violated they'd throw him out of the
role but they did win in that regard and
again ruddy supported them they also
didn't want al pacino and kapol has seen
only al pacino in this role they didn't
want him and the guy who played al
pacino in this was very good he kind of
had the yeah the the way uh pacino
talked he had his mannerisms down he did
a great job the studio didn't want him
kapla fought for him ruddy supported him
puzzle liked him eventually what
happened you know he was nominated for
an academy award and really when you
think of all three godfathers al pacino
was really the face michael corleone's
really the face of the godfather so but
you see the struggle that rudy had to
get this movie done and how he had to
navigate both columbo and the studio and
as we're seeing the joe colombo story
we're seeing him
really being talked to by some of the
other bosses carlo gambino joe bonano
locasi they were talking to him as the
league was picking up steam and they
were kind of telling him joey you know
this is what not if my boss does this is
not what we do
but joe colombo is very adamant at that
time and i remember that he wasn't
taking no for an answer he was creating
this league it was becoming huge you
know at the italian american civil
rights rally that we had the second one
we had 50 000 people there that's when
he got a you know there was an
assassination attempt on his life so it
kind of shows the story of joe colombo
and how this league led to his demise
and i think in the next few episodes
we're gonna see that a little bit more
but the way episode three ends is that
joey gallo who you know is a principal
involved in this whole plot to get to
colombo is released from prison you can
see that he has relationships with
african americans with black guys that
he met in prison you know eventually it
was jerome johnson a black guy that take
the shots at joe colombo and joe columbo
eventually died from the wounds he
lingered for about six or seven years i
was there the day he got shot i was 12
steps away from him i was just walking
off the stage after he handed me some
stuff so
some brochures i'm very familiar with
what went on there but um it's telling
both stories so i think you'll find it
very interesting so again i recommend it
you know another thing that coppola had
to fight for you would think that when
he was receiving so much heat he was
getting so much heat what does he do he
proposes his sister to play a major role
italia shire people were against that
too they said come on now you want your
sister in the park but coppola you got
to give him credit i mean he really
fought and you know i know a little bit
about francis because a very dear friend
of mine who is a made guy an elderly guy
now he lives out in vegas is very close
with francis and i heard some things
about the godfather the making of the
godfather i knew for a fact that he was
really you know he went kicking and
screaming into making godfather three he
didn't want to do it right now all
kaplan wants to do from what i
understand is enjoy his wine he's been
very very successful in his business
couple of vineyards and he's doing
extremely well there i did hear that
that he may have another project that
he's getting involved in he's in his 80s
i don't know if that's true or not but
uh just you know some interesting things
that went along with the making of this
film oh one other thing that i want to
get into that i think it was important
frank sinatra mentioned him briefly but
sinatra was extremely upset over the
book he didn't like the book at all
there was two scenes there one of them
i'm sure never happened the other one
might have happened maybe not exactly as
the way we see it in the offer but uh
two scenes number one sinatra in the
film
gives a call to joe colombo and he was
very disrespectful to him starts cursing
at him because the movie was getting
made and sinatra didn't want the movie
to get made because he was upset the way
johnny fontaine was portrayed because
allegedly that was frank sinatra and
allegedly you know it was
the mob that helped sinatra get the role
from here to eternity the whole horse's
head scene and all that you remember
that you know great scene in the movie
and so sinatra was very upset by that
because he didn't want anybody to think
that the mob helped him that that's what
he needed to get that part in the movie
so he was very very upset he has an
encounter with mario puzo in the in the
uh in a restaurant puzzle excited to
meet him and sinatra is just very
disrespectful curses him calls him out
puzzle gets a little bit offended by it
i think something like that did happen i
don't know if it happened in a
restaurant as it was portrayed but it
was a good scene but again sinatra would
never in a million years get on a
telephone call with joe colombo and
start cussing him out sinatra like joe
colombo uh very much he uh appeared at
at least two events that we had with the
italian american civil rights league i
knew sinatra from my younger days with
my dad he liked my dad very much so that
scene would never happen sinatra would
never have been disrespectful like that
to a mob boss so don't believe that that
happened but again it played well in the
movie the in the uh television series
the offer so
uh that's about it gonna wrap it up the
way it ended episode three is we see
joey gallo in a car with one of his
friends a black guy and he spots joe
columbo getting out of a car somewhere
else and he kind of says i got something
in store for joe colombo kind of leading
up to what happened at the
italian-american civil rights league
rally so that's how it ends i'm looking
forward to episode four five and six i
think there's ten episodes all together
in the series it's kind of a of a
limited series uh but very enjoyable if
you have paramount plus i suggest you
watch it if you don't have it get it
you'll enjoy it and and that's it so
that's the offer so that's it for today
i want to remind you all in the united
kingdom i will be there july 2nd for a
25 city tour i know i'm going to meet a
lot of my followers because i've been
getting a lot of great comments we're
going to be posting the schedules soon
i'm going over there to do some media to
promote the event pretty soon hopefully
i'll meet up with a couple of people uh
when i do that so that's it a lot of
good stuff we told you about the wine
the stage play based upon my life that's
in production the television series a
lot of things moving along and we'll put
you up to date and hopefully have a lot
to say about that very soon that's it
for today how do i always leave you the
very same way be safe ladies i don't
want to remind you again please be
observant when you get in a car in a
parking lot look around you make sure
there's nobody shadowing you very
important be healthy take good care of
yourself that's important god bless you
all i really mean that and yes god
willing i will see you next time take
care
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