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When you walk into a club for the first time,

everybody's looking at you.

Everybody in that club is looking at you.

And the way you come in, I think, is important.

"I like a challenge. This is a big one."

Those were the words of José Mourinho

as he was unveiled as Real Madrid's new manager this morning.

He signed a deal...

Mourinho is set to become Real's manager.

Real Madrid unveils José Mourinho...

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful isn't playing for Real Madrid.

Nor is it coaching Real Madrid.

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful is winning for Real Madrid.

José Mourinho!

When José comes somewhere, it's extreme. Everything becomes extreme.

- José Mourinho... - José Mourinho...

José Mourinho...

Everybody's excited.

And he's very well aware of what he's doing.

Nothing is by accident or coincidence.

If you were already a coach who drove Barcelona fans crazy,

how does it feel to be the most hated coach by Barcelona?

People talk about mind games. He loved that.

The thing is if he wants to say things, he just say them.

If I'm hated in Barcelona,

that's the problem of those who hate me, not my problem.

I don't try to manipulate.

- Really? It feels like you-- - No.

People is only manipulated if they let themselves be manipulated.

It's not about the manipulator.

It's about the people open to be manipulated.

One of the best coaches, if not the best.

Having him in the Spanish league is great.

His character?

We are who we are. I'm not here to...

We are who we are.

I promise that I do not change.

I am José Mourinho,

and it is José Mourinho who arrives today at Real Madrid.

José Mourinho with all his qualities and with all his defects.

There is a relationship of love and hate

between Mourinho and many Barça fans, as well as the Barça management.

Mourinho loved Barça.

Barça was part of his life,

part of his construction as a coach,

while Real Madrid was something alien.

He feels scorned by Barça.

A desire for revenge.

For vindication.

Today, tomorrow, and always

with Barça in my heart.

It's El Clásico, the Spanish champions,

against La Liga's leaders.

Barcelona against Real Madrid.

98,000 inside. Millions watching around the world.

A very special Special One,

what with the return of José Mourinho to his former employer,

looking for his first ever win on this ground as a coach.

How will Guardiola cope with that?

Two best players in the world, Ronaldo and Messi.

The two biggest clubs in the world going head-to-head.

In 2010,

when I go to Real Madrid,

the club doesn't win the title for a few years.

The club didn't qualify for the Champions League quarterfinal

for eight years.

Barcelona was dominating the Spanish football.

And, uh, the challenge was...

...was to destroy it.

Tenacious, Messi wins it back.

The ball's glued to his foot.

Iniesta has Villa outside. Oh, plays it inside.

Great tackle, but, oh, it's a shot by Xavi!

A huge slice of luck gives Barcelona the lead.

We always felt the pressure to win.

Uh, every time we were going to a place, we needed to deliver silverware.

So we knew that we had a big challenge.

I would say the biggest.

Toe-to-toe with Ramos. Gets the cross in.

Two-nil, Barcelona.

Now Messi.

Drifting, driving. David Villa.

Three-nil.

Game over.

Real Madrid had to stop supremacy,

to change mentalities,

to win titles.

But the job was ultra difficult.

A permanent fight. Every day, it had to be.

So I had to build from scratch.

Brilliant run by Villa. Can he finish it off? He can!

It's four to Barcelona.

When do the goals stop?

Bojan's cross.

Will it be five?

It will!

Biggest defeat of my career. I've never lost 5-0 before, that's true,

but one team played to their full potential,

and the other team played very badly.

When we lost 5-0,

it was one of the toughest weeks in my... in my whole career.

But I think that was, like, a big turnaround in his mind

about how we have to change to beat Barcelona.

In the Real Madrid squad were already phenomenal players.

We had Cristiano, top scorer.

We had Kaká.

We had Karim, Xabi.

At that time, Spain was world champion.

And we had Casillas, the captain and the biggest player.

Real Madrid had a fantastic squad,

but by the mental point of view, it was really very bad.

The first three times that I spoke with Casillas, the captain,

the first thing he told me was,

"I want to ask for more holidays for the national team players."

The second time he spoke with me was,

"I would like to ask you to put the training sessions one hour later

because at the time you want the training sessions,

there is a lot of traffic in Madrid."

The third time he come to speak with me was,

"We don't like to go to hotel."

"We prefer just to meet on match day and go direct to the stadium to play."

And in a short period of time, I realize...

...they're spoiled.

When he was appointed Real Madrid's coach,

we knew perfectly well things were going to change.

You live with the pressure with José.

Sometimes it's... it's too much,

but Barcelona-Madrid is more than football.

It's, like, region.

It's language.

It's political, of course, because of the history of both teams

and, uh, what they represent for the people and fans.

When I arrived,

Real Madrid is the señorío of football,

which means being the gentleman,

the fair play,

but was a bad interpretation of this.

For me, señorío doesn't mean to accept your destiny.

Señorío means...

..."This is war."

So I needed to change this mentality.

You didn't need to be a psychic.

We saw it, all the journalists, all the fans.

We witnessed firsthand that a cultural change was taking place.

A new era began with Mourinho.

A proud movement

of not being beautiful,

of not being good.

We are bad.

Real Madrid, Barcelona.

Few are gonna forget that game earlier in the season.

Barcelona gave them a real good seeing-to, a 5-0 victory.

Barcelona has proved invincible over the years.

And it's a big game for Real Madrid in that sense at home.

Guardiola has been there, seen it, done it.

And when it comes to this fixture, always won it as a manager.

It didn't matter if it was a friendly,

a Copa del Rey game, a league game, or Champions League match.

He treated every game as if it were a final.

Some tackle this was. Whoa.

The linesman should be wearing shin guards!

He got into our heads and changed our mindset.

We started going into those games like it was life or death,

like we had to win.

Time for retribution, they feel, in Madrid.

We spoke two minutes about Barcelona

and then, like, 40 minutes about Lionel Messi.

He prepared every single detail.

He changed some players. Sometimes Pepe played as a number six,

then Sergio Ramos.

The most important thing was, how we can stop Lionel Messi?

Little one-two. Excellent football.

Messi on the blind side. Brilliant save by Iker Casillas.

It tells you about this match

when the best player is kept out by the best goalkeeper.

I was having a nightmare. What can we do to stop him?

It's Lionel Messi.

From the first game, I knew that we couldn't be better than them

doing the same as they do.

There's no way Mourinho's gonna give up on this game.

To beat them, we had to be different,

both on and off the pitch.

Marcelo makes a drive down the left side, and goes down.

He hasn't given a penalty? I can't believe he's given that.

Well, so far, it's Lionel Messi, one.

And now Cristiano Ronaldo, one.

An improved side, definitely,

from six months ago when they got hammered.

It's a much, much improved Real Madrid side.

A massive test for Guardiola,

maybe the first real test of his psychological strength

in terms of someone chipping away at him.

A league full of A-listers, but a B-list movie between those two.

It's personal.

We were football enemies in the sense we fight for the same cup,

for the same league, for the same Champions League.

I think it's a good thing.

Josep Guardiola is a fantastic soccer coach,

but he won a Champions League

that I would be ashamed to win.

In this room, he's the fucking boss. The fucking master.

The one who knows the most in the world,

and I don't even want to compete for a single moment.

That situation was complicated because of course I was the captain of Madrid

and also of the Spanish national team.

What happened was you were up against teammates

who were your enemies on the football field,

but they were your teammates when you had to represent the Spanish national team.

Well, I didn't like to see that, and I told the coach.

Casillas calls Xavi Hernández

and tells him that they have to make peace,

so to speak, to be teammates again.

Upon finding out,

Mourinho accuses Casillas of being a traitor.

A climate of suspicion is then created.

And the very contradictory feelings.

I always say, in every situation,

when you want to make a point, when you want to be right to the heart,

right to the jugular,

you don't do to the little ones.

You don't do to the little ones. You go to the big ones.

There are things that I don't accept and I will never accept.

And when somebody doesn't respect me,

it's a problem.

I say, "This is Barcelona-Real Madrid."

"When you go to national team, then you can kiss the guy."

But not now.

This is war.

In that season, I changed the club.

I changed the mentality.

Every match was really a tactical fight.

Guardiola looking for his ninth trophy as Barcelona head coach.

Mourinho has won cups in Portugal, England, and Italy.

Looking to complete the set here.

In this Real Madrid,

I had very, very little to teach to any one of them.

I couldn't teach Sergio Ramos how to head a ball.

No, I couldn't teach Cristiano how to score a goal.

So the profile was make them play as a team.

Ronaldo.

He explained everything, absolutely all the details,

and in the end, the training we did, when we got to the match,

it was exactly what he had said.

You are his brain on the pitch, and you have to follow 100%.

If you're not doing that...

...he will kill you.

I always tell them, "If you think the same way as I think,

it's an easier life for you."

It's as simple as that.

Di Maria. Hit it well!

I can see the progress Mourinho has made

over the last five or six months with his side.

The balance of power has shifted.

Good ball from Marcelo there. Great cross, header, goal!

Cristiano Ronaldo!

A magnificent header.

It's all over.

Real Madrid have broken Barcelona's stranglehold.

And just look at these scenes of celebration.

Boom.

First cup, history changed.

A few days ago, someone called me a title coach,

not a football coach. Thank you.

Thank you.

After that, we had a phenomenal second season.

Week after week, win, win, win, win, win.

We won basically every game.

In that period, I felt that the world stopped,

and the eyes were on the best Barcelona,

the best Messi,

the best Cristiano, the best Real Madrid.

Guardiola, Mourinho.

In that season, we won the league.

100 points, 121 goals scored.

It's something incredible.

José Mourinho!

It's Mourinho's name.

As we said before, he's the Special One.

He doesn't leave anyone indifferent.

He's a special person.

But there's something indisputable.

He's a winner. Winner wherever he goes.

With his ways, his ideas, his virtues, and his defects.

But he's a winner, and Real Madrid wanted to be winners again.

End of that season, my feeling was

we did the job that we come for,

which was to break the dominancy of Barcelona.

I think we killed him.

Good morning.

We have gathered you here today

to officially announce to you that Guardiola will not continue

as coach next season.

The reason is very simple. It's been four years, and time wears everything down.

I am worn down, and I need a break.

Fighting so much every day.

Pep, he was tired of that fight,

of that permanent fight.

Barça have nothing left. Barça are already dead.

Now that Guardiola is gone, the Mourinho era begins.

Now the real Madrid of the '60s, the good one, is starting again.

Some guys, they need a sabbatical,

which is something that...

I... I hate that word.

For me, sabbatical means weakness.

You know, I... Don't speak with me about sabbaticals.

I never need a rest.

I will have a rest when he decides to say,

"Come, come up."

What Pep wants to do with his career is a personal plan.

I am no one to say anything,

but as Barcelona coach,

he is the perfect coach for me.

And you are the perfect coach for Real Madrid?

Real Madrid was a dressing room full of egos.

Was a dressing room full of stars.

For two seasons,

they had a mission,

and we worked together trying to reach it.

When we did it,

the third season

become... different.

Now it starts the difficult part, right? So...

We had the good times and the fun times.

And then... Yeah.

And also some really hard and bad times.

At the moment, he's winning,

but I don't know if he knows how to win properly.

It doesn't seem like it to me. But eventually he'll lose.

People who spit upward end up having it fall back down on them.

People can be together for a long time.

And if there is no empathy,

and if there is no pleasure in working together,

it's a major problem when you're building a group.

Third season, the pressure was higher.

So then maybe some of the... main characters,

they lost a bit their minds.

Mourinho sees on the website of the newspaper Marca

that his starting lineup is published.

Mourinho gathers his players.

He accuses them all of being traitors for leaking the lineup.

What happened is he went crazy. I remember he came in.

He called us all sorts of things.

We were the ones to blame for how all of this was.

I don't know, he might've kicked a bottle...

He slammed his office door, went in.

He was pissed. That's how he is.

Look at it this way.

He studies, he works hard to come up with the best possible way

for us to win a game.

And then something leaks that was only meant for us, you know.

It's the club. The club is so big.

You know, a small problem in the dressing room,

next day is big news in the papers.

José likes to control.

And, um, it was difficult for him.

Hello, everyone. We're about to start the press conference.

Just to let you know,

José Mourinho will not be answering any questions.

None whatsoever.

To protect the team, you have to try... to block,

to close, to build a wall.

Don't give ammunition to opposition.

Don't betray.

Who was it?

The mole, of course. And who is the mole?

Well, go on, look for him, find him.

There are always guys who are closer to the media world than others.

Can be your best friend, your agent, your... You never know. Your wife.

I believe that was... ...was not my wife.

Man, to this day, we still want to know which scumbag did that.

We knew. We are almost certain who were.

Because at the end, the answers were in the papers.

You can never prove, but you're almost certain that...

how the things are operated.

Well, we can see Casillas there in the background,

not in the lineup today.

Whether you think Mourinho has, uh, had a successful three years at Madrid or not,

there are one or two problems

with differences of opinion, bad relationships.

And you wonder what the future will bring in the Santiago Bernabéu.

Iker is a Real Madrid legend,

loved by every Real Madrid supporter.

He benched him and doesn't speak to him, spoke bad about him in the media.

So then this locker room was a nightmare, honestly.

The problems in a team start

when a player thinks he is more important than the others,

and with that, yes, obviously there are problems.

For once and for all, let's see if you can all understand this.

I choose who plays.

For me, I like Diego López more as a goalkeeper

than Iker Casillas. It's simple.

The relationship between José and many players were broken.

Like Cristiano and the Spanish guys,

Casillas, Sergio Ramos.

And those players were, like, super, super important

for the atmosphere in the locker room, so then it was, like, poisoning it.

I haven't experienced in my life

such a serious fracture inside Madrid

as the one Mourinho has created.

Nobody knows where the leaks come from.

The changing room of Real Madrid's broken. It's clearly broken.

Madrid stops tonight

as both halves of the Spanish capital go head-to-head

to see who will be crowned 2013 King's Cup champions.

It does seem incredible Atlético haven't beaten Real this century.

Twenty-five games.

It's got to come to an end, and who's to say,

with all the problems at Real Madrid, that won't be tonight?

For me, a man in football is a team man.

López.

Ready to suffer, ready to sacrifice, not being selfish.

The team is more important than anything.

It's about attitude. It's a one-off. It's a cup final.

Anybody could win it.

You need some luck to win a trophy.

They've had two huge slices of it now, Atlético Madrid.

There are only a few players

that are committed, focused,

and for whom football is currently the top priority in their lives.

When you have only a few committed players, it's complicated.

Ronaldo!

It's in! Ronaldo!

Swift feet here from Falcao.

Into Diego Costa. Real chance.

Goal!

The Atlético Madrid fans have gone berserk.

It's too much for Casillas.

Real Madrid goalkeeper can't have believed when he came in on an emergency signing

that he would be starting the final and Casillas would be out of favor.

How things can change in such a short time in football.

The relationship José and I had was very cold.

In those years,

I really think it was taken to a limit

where in the end, the rope broke.

It just broke.

Koke again.

Great cross. Header's in. Miranda!

And the cup goes to Atlético Madrid.

For the first time in Mourinho's coaching career,

a full season will end without a trophy.

I believe that they were tired of me as a leader,

and I also was tired of them.

I also was tired of them. It was not just them tired of me.

Do you like playing in this team?

I don't like it, but I have to adapt to what the team asks me.

It's true that right now there's someone

who I think is ruining football, Spanish football.

Mourinho is a cruel character,

a despotic character, an arrogant character.

His generation of management is done.

- A dinosaur - A disgrace.

José Mourinho is now very much a damaged brand.

I've never seen a pitch invasion by cameramen before.

Extraordinary scenes.

I was tired of players. I was tired of the press.

There was a lot of pressure on me.

This atmosphere is very negative.

Is that the response of the Bernabéu to José Mourinho's three years in charge?

I'm not sure if the boos are for Mourinho

or for the way the photographers encroached on the technical area.

Obviously, there are two theories. One is to completely blame Mourinho.

The other is to blame the persecution of Mourinho.

I know in England, I'm loved.

And in Spain, the situation is a bit different

because, uh, some people hate me.

And, uh... many of you are in this room.

Many of them are in this room.

After discussion with our coach José Mourinho,

we have reached an agreement to end the contractual relationship

at the end of this season.

When I left Real Madrid, the president was saying,

"Now comes the easy one

because we are going up, and they are going down."

But I wanted to leave.

The feeling was,

"Job done."

One of the problems Chelsea has got

is there's no stability at that club.

I mean, what is it? Seven managers Chelsea have had since 2008.

So whoever comes in next I imagine will feel the same pressure

'cause they'll need answers. They'll need results instantly.

I was told many times, people that is, uh, superstitious,

never go back to a place where you were happy before.

I'm not superstitious.

The first approach was, "Roman wants you back."

"He realized you are the best."

Chelsea is in a period of transition.

The club was in trouble.

There is a new team to build. So I took the challenge.

Finally, he's back,

the man whose swagger and self-belief turned Chelsea into champions.

But nearly six years after leaving London,

can he do it all over again?

Are you still a special one?

I'm the happy one.

Completely out of the blue, José calls me and says, "I'm coming home."

I wanted to hug him through the phone, you know? It was amazing.

I was like... I couldn't quite believe it.

This was like my dreams come true.

I was in Portugal with my wife, and we're sitting at the table.

I get a phone call from him, and he says,

"You're my captain, and we're gonna win the league." It was incredible.

I remember talking with John Terry, with Lampard, saying,

"Oh, you will see. This guy is... he's top."

"He's number one."

And we saw it straight at the beginning, first training.

For me, it was great.

Mourinho! Mourinho!

I go to Chelsea in 2013.

But in that period, there is something nobody knows.

I think I can say because I don't hurt anyone with the truth.

And I think the objective of this work that we are doing

is to tell the truth.

When I left Real Madrid,

I signed with Manchester United to go to Manchester United after Sir Alex.

He was offered the job, yes.

I sat him down and explained, you know, the situation, and...

As far as I was, kind of, concerned, he was accepting.

And then, within hours, had changed.

I was, of course, very flattered

because Man United has an incredible appeal.

When I say Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world,

I have to say that Man United is...

is very, very close.

But one thing is love for football,

and another thing is love for a certain club.

I think this is more powerful than love for football.

And fundamentally, after Real Madrid,

I needed to feel... that I'm loved.

Early evening, he phoned me, and he was crying.

And he says, "Alex, I can't take it."

"I've given my word to Chelsea, and I'm not gonna break my word."

You know, the reason he gave to me, I could understand.

But I was disappointed.

For me, to lose the chance to be the coach to succeed Sir Alex

was... dramatic.

But I don't regret

because it was a decision that I made with my heart.

And, uh, I think it is Nietzsche

that said something that when you do something for love,

you are never doing anything wrong.

I think it's Nietzsche.

I did it for love.

I went back with the feeling of, yes, I go home,

but with big responsibility

because, uh, what I did before is history.

And you don't want to destroy your legacy.

It'll be interesting to see the level of control

José Mourinho has at Chelsea when he comes back.

He commands the utmost of respect from those players.

But he does now face some tough choices

as he looks to get them challenging again at the top of the league and in Europe.

In terms of his reputation within the game now,

given everything that's happened, where is he?

I think we'll see a different José coming back.

A José with something to prove,

which should be even more intriguing, more exciting.

I had a little hope that I could have the time,

um, the space,

to create a dynasty.

But Roman is Roman.

I think José, um, searching for

establishing himself in a club on a long term

for happiness in his life,

I would say that is impossible.

And when that doesn't happen

is when he, um... he feels

let down.

The club he had at Chelsea when he first came

was this young group together.

We needed a couple additions, and we were... go.

When he came back, it was different.

We had a lot of manager change.

A manager brought players, so there was not harmony

that he walked into in the first place and probably desire.

Players had changed.

Were they receptive to his behaviors and his demands? No.

Was he gonna change?

No, because I had that conversation with him.

He was like, "My approach has worked for the last 20 years."

"Why do I have to take my level down to somebody else's level?"

"I need and want people at 100% for me to win."

José is not scared to say something in front of everyone.

He's gonna tell you, "You're bad."

And when you're just beginning... ...not easy.

He said, "I want to tell you one thing."

"You know oranges? When you put them in a basket?"

"When one is bad

and it touches all the oranges,

they all become bad."

"So don't become a bad orange."

And then left.

He'd press people's buttons. Knew how to press mine.

He knew how to press Lamps's

and get the best and suck every last bit out of everyone.

You put pressure.

And top players with pressure, they become bigger.

Quite a distance out.

It hasn't deterred him, and that's why!

And he turns and runs towards his mentor.

What he did was probably use some psychological trick on me

to try and get it out of me.

That makes it sound cynical, but I don't care.

Looking back, that's management.

You try and get the best out of people.

I think for him, it was a game.

I don't know, but I think it was a kind of game.

Everything was a game.

He would do anything to win, so it's exactly what he did.

Can you believe this?

The mayhem here, it's falling around their ears.

José Mourinho, sent away by Chris Foy.

No defense for one of your players

when he stamps on an opposition player.

I think sometimes, I can be pretty aggressive,

but I never did it to enjoy myself.

I never did it with the intention to hurt.

I always did it to get results.

Even when it got personal?

Yeah.

It's always about winning.

In my private life, I think I'm sweet. I think I'm nice.

Not rude. Not ruthless.

But when you are in your privacy with your friends, your family,

with the people that you love,

you are not playing a game.

You are not trying to win.

Football is to win.

And I don't want to look like

arrogant again and again and again.

But I won a lot.

The second season was amazing.

We won the League Cup. We won the Premier League.

And, wow, we were flying.

And it's smashed home by Diego Costa.

In that second season, we were the best team by far.

Oh, beautifully done.

Eden Hazard scores for Chelsea.

Diego Costa!

Surely wins the game for Chelsea.

It is Oscar!

Absolutely dazzling.

Top of the league from the first to the last match.

It was amazing.

Drogba. Hazard!

Lovely combination!

So dominant, so good.

- Did you enjoy? I think everybody does. - Towards Hazard!

Eden was phenomenal.

That season,

he destroyed everybody.

Ah, for me, it's easy, you know?

He was always saying to me,

"You want a day off on Sunday, you have to produce on Saturday."

I was like, "What? Day off on Sunday?"

"I'm gonna give you everything on the pitch."

"Thank you so much."

Chelsea are the champions.

The best in the country by a country mile.

The Premier League title returns to Stamford Bridge.

What have you made of Mourinho since he's come back?

- He's the best manager in the world. - Legend.

Yeah, the title's ours next season as well, so...

Journalists love writing about you.

I'm sure you hate their opinions.

But one of the things that comes up a lot is this idea of the three-season syndrome.

I'm sure you've heard this lots.

Do you believe in that?

No.

I don't see any...

any problem with, uh...

with the third season.

Not at all.

The problem is when you reach on the first and the second...

...the third becomes...

becomes more complicated.

Agüero to Touré to Agüero.

Still Agüero! Magnificent.

Off and running for the season.

The third season at Chelsea,

it's the famous season of Leicester champion.

Silva.

And we, as champions,

we lost it.

It's rare to see Chelsea on the rack.

Fernandinho!

It's the perfect game for Manchester City.

The 3-0 is completely fake.

We were the best team, but, uh, that's not enough.

An early marker laid down

at the end of a very difficult week for Mourinho and Chelsea.

He's very intense.

Maybe after a couple of years, you just squeeze everything out,

and then the third year becomes difficult.

One point from six. Are you concerned?

Well, one point from six is better than zero points from six,

and it's worse than two points from six. I know that I'm quite okay in...

in mathematics.

A season of misery

plumbs new depths for Chelsea.

We'd seen from the outside in Real Madrid, I think he'd had

big political things to deal with, as Real Madrid is as a club,

some fallouts you'd heard about.

And I think he was probably bruised. He said he's bruised. I get that.

It's normal a manager after defeat is, "No smiling." "Why didn't this happen?"

But then to carry it on for two or three days is different.

That can affect the environment.

I sensed he found it harder the second time.

Simply the best. Still special?

It's become sub-normal.

What are your thoughts on the game?

I can't express my feelings.

- In any way at all? - In any way at all.

You try to understand if there's something wrong with the training.

You try to understand if something wrong personally with the players.

But then it becomes, you understand, it becomes a mental thing.

I still can't explain what happened then.

When you win, everything is great. You're beautiful. I'm beautiful.

If you're ugly, they're gonna say you're beautiful.

You know, when you start not winning games, it's different.

People saying, "It's your fault." "No, it's your fault." "It's your fault."

And that creates problem.

Like all good love bombers, and Mourinho's so good at love-bombing,

he's just manipulating you.

He's in control of your every emotion, of your every whim.

He's capricious with it.

He makes the players think when it goes wrong, it's their fault.

I know one of my best qualities is... is to read the opponent,

is to identify every detail about the opponents.

And, um, when you have some players, they don't go to the normal level,

I feel that my work was betrayed.

I went to an approach of not accepting and having fights.

And when you have fight after fight after fight,

you... you also lose empathy.

You've spoken many times about having the untouchables in your squad.

How many would you say are untouchable at the moment?

We wasn't in a good place as a football club.

We were a little bit of an aging squad.

Some good signings come in,

but things were changing at the football club.

We finished champion the year before,

but we are not winning games anymore.

The one guy is injured. Another guy is injured.

It's not just about one player. The whole package is bad.

Then we have also the story with, you remember, the doctor.

The story was very simple.

We were playing at home against Swansea.

Willian. It's looped in!

Met by Courtois.

- Penalty. - We were playing with ten men.

What a big moment for Bafé Gomis,

who equalizes for Swansea.

High drama at the Bridge.

Eden fell.

Williams with a cumbersome challenge.

I'm not a doctor.

But my eyes, they know when a player is injured,

and they know when a player is not injured.

I knew that he was not injured.

But the doctors went to the pitch.

And in that moment, we were left with nine players.

One of the silly rules that hasn't been changed.

When a player gets fouled and the opponent gets booked,

why does the player have to leave the field?

It's not time-wasting if he's been booked.

Medically, he would say,

unless it's really, really bad, then they're not coming on.

That was the understanding of us as players.

The medical staff, everyone bought into that.

To be fair, was nothing special. I was on the floor. She came.

But because it's José, with José, everything is bigger.

For me, a lady doctor is the same as a man's doctor.

Hey! And now we play with nine! Fucking hell.

We play with nine now. Fuck off, man.

Fuck you, man.

So, as always, I use my

vocabulary when I'm not happy.

And now we play with nine. Fucking hell.

Nothing's changed. The summer months have not mellowed him.

Why? Why? Is he dying?

We play with nine! Fucking hell.

There are words in a moment where, uh, the tension is very, very high.

Normally, people with football culture,

with football DNA, with football background,

they go over it in one second.

In that case, was... was different.

José! Any regrets about the language you used? José?

- Why no apology? - Eva!

After ten months,

Eva Carneiro finally got a settlement she felt was acceptable.

Crucially, it included a public apology.

Whoa. These people are mad.

It was a big moment, obviously. And he took a lot of backlash for that.

Was that the reason he was fired?

There was a lot of heat on the football club.

It's another issue in a season

that has left the Special One looking ordinary

and showing the strain like never before.

The media around Chelsea, every day, every press conference,

what's going to happen, the lawyer from the club,

then the lawyer from the doctor, then who is going to be witness.

All this situation didn't help.

But come on.

I was sacked because, uh, we were losing.

With Roman, you win, or you are sacked. It's simple.

Major breaking news this evening.

The Special One has been dismissed for a second time.

The most successful manager in Chelsea's 110-year history,

José Mourinho, gone.

Every time I leave a club by the club decision,

I always feel hurted, I always feel upset.

But there is no discussion.

If they say, "We want to change," what are you going to do? "Please don't"?

You have to leave, you have to leave.

I envy my colleagues that have ways to relax, to enjoy. I envy them.

That's not me.

I'm always peaceful.

Look at this. I'm always peaceful.

Football is a job that

absorbs me.

And that's the way I am.

No gardening, no cooking, no cleaning,

no golf, no padel, no nothing.

No nothing.

It is a lonely job.

It's a job you have to be completely invested in.

You have to put to the side certain things you don't want to.

Family,

children.

Um, and we're all human, so that will take its toll at some point.

It's difficult for them. It's difficult.

Sometimes you have a feeling of guilt.

Sometimes you have a feeling of, "I should be there. I'm not there."

But I don't want you to think that family means something less important to me.

They are in a place they cannot even be compared with football.

But to tell the truth, um,

I know that they enjoy life much more without me.

That's... That's real.

What does it feel like saying that?

No. It's... It's true.

If they go to a restaurant with me, it's different than without me.

I try to protect as much as I can,

but many times, of course, I... I fail.

It's not... It's not easy.

The mum is a great mum.

And they understand

that, um, to be what I am, in football, this is my way.

They need to understand it.

They need to understand it.

You are pushing me to speak about myself, which I don't want to.

You know, I will be always, until my last day,

honest with my feelings.

But I think your happiness, your unhappiness, your problems,

you leave it in the door of the training ground.

Probably it's an old-fashioned way of looking at things,

but that's who I am.

And, uh, in the end, I don't want to change.

It's too late.

José is a very proud person.

He's very proud, a very strong character.

He will never show weakness,

and he will never show fragility.

Here, please.

But when he was at United, he was different.

Good morning. We've had various incarnations

since you've been in England.

You've been the Special One, the Happy One.

What does Manchester make you?

I don't know.

During your period at United, you lose your father.

How can you process something as big as that

when it's happening so publicly?

You don't want to make me cry

because I don't want.

We have a job to do. We have a big job to do.

We are paid to do the job. We have to do the job.

When you leave the... the training ground,

you open the door of your car,

the problems go in,

and then you have to live with them,

to suffer with them, to resolve them.

But I think at football, a top professional

should be like this.

People think they know me, but they don't know me.

And I'm happy they don't.

It's a privilege for the ones that know me.

I'm curious why you don't want the world to know who you are.

I don't care.

I... I just don't care.

I don't like to speak about my privacy. I don't like to speak about myself.

I... I really don't... I really don't care.

I really don't care.

Steve Jobs, uh...

What do I want to know about Steve Jobs?

I don't give a shit about Steve Jobs as a kid.

I want... I want to know how Steve Jobs becomes Steve Jobs.

You know, the dimension--

How do you become that without your childhood?

No, but the childhood, you know, if the book is 500 pages,

the childhood should be five.

And that's enough.

- Are you curious about people? - No.

I'm curious about careers.

If you take me to other directions,

to do a little bit about what you feel I am,

that's fine for me.

If it's more, I will not be happy, and I close the door.

It's my career. You want to do a documentary because of my career.

You don't do a documentary with a guy that wins nothing in football.

Where is a documentary about the guy that won nothing? I don't know.

Mourinho's world view is, "If I win,

that's the only thing that counts."

Which means if you don't win,

what's left of you?

The Muhammad Ali of football management.

He walked in a room, he told everybody he was the greatest thing,

and went about to prove that.

There's no argument about what he has been.

But it's about now, isn't it?

Not to belittle anything you've done in recent years,

but why do you think you haven't done anything

that people regard as, you know, like Porto, like Inter, like Chelsea?

Excuse me?

Winning the Champions League.

Why have you not been able to recreate those moments, do you think?

I don't know.

I did it. I went to a cup final with Tottenham.

I didn't play it. I did it.

I won three titles with Manchester United, even one European cup. I did it.

What I did in Porto, in the beginning, I did in Roma three years ago.

One was Champions League, and another was Conference League.

In every situation, there is objectives in relation to the potential.

These objectives, I promise you I reach them.

Small miracles. Small miracles.

But the big ones?

Jesus Christ.

With my career, I won the right to be happy.

I was not going to win the Champions League in Rome,

but I was happy.

What happens when that goes wrong?

When goes wrong, goes wrong.

José Mourinho is no longer the coach of Roma.

Mourinho is moving on,

and reports suggest it is gonna be Fenerbahçe.

If I have to swim through a water of disappointments,

you keep swimming.

I don't quit at all. I go, I go, I go.

I break a wall. I keep going.

Your dreams are now my dreams.

- This is peak Mourinho. - Make Fenerbahçe great again.

Yeah. At Roma, he rediscovered what happens to your soul

when you're adored and loved by millions of people.

That probably does something to the wiring of your brain.

I think he's now chasing these dopamine hits.

There is no decline. There is no fall.

He's always chasing the shadow of what he used to be.

José Mourinho out at Fenerbahçe after little more than a season.

Not exactly the most glorious tenure of his career.

My world is to walk in a stadium

with 50,000 or 90,000.

I had 100,000. That's my world.

Without football, there is not something complete in me.

But I don't think it's an obsession.

I don't feel it as an obsession.

It's just when you reach a certain level, you want to stay there forever, no?

I still think he's got a huge amount to give to football and the right club.

If you want an easy life, don't get José Mourinho.

But if you wanna win things and shake it up, get him.

I will live for Benfica. I will live for my mission.

I am 61, and I cannot even imagine

when I'm going to stop my life in football.

I say ten more years, but maybe more than ten.

It's fun.

It was, it is, and will always be. Always fun.

He's been in the game for so long.

His career has been amazing.

He made noise wherever he went.

He brings chaos. He brings the whole package.

Respect, man. Respect.

He should always be considered one of the best ever.

Somebody totally driven and somebody totally different

to what you used to see.

I arrive here with my ego...

Now it's even higher.

His legacy will live on forever at Chelsea.

And who knows? He might come back.

The legacy as well will be the one who wanted to say what he thinks.

Although he created a lot of trouble,

but he did it his own way.

What do you still have to achieve?

I want to win more titles. I want to win new titles.

I want to repeat titles.

I want to do it in places where I have never been.

I want to do it in places where I did before.

Very big breaking news, and it's about José Mourinho.

They say you should never go back, but after 13 years,

José Mourinho is returning to Real Madrid.

This is why we love football.

This is driven by that sense of nostalgia.

The thing about nostalgia is some of the details,

some of the awkwardness, kinda gets forgotten with time,

and people hang on to the bit they liked.

This is gonna be as big a test as he's ever had.

Is the Special One really the man to save Real Madrid?

Thinking about it, is there anything you would've done differently?

No. It is what it is.