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I think we should move.
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- I'm not leaving this house!
- I want to be around life, not death.
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Not death,
every single minute of the day.
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- Guilty.
- He can't be...
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The case against you
is a travesty of justice.
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The entire prosecution case
rested on this.
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The tracks on the fragment
are of copper,
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covered by a layer of pure tin.
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What is this?
No, this is not the same fragment.
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And I will do everything
in my power to help you.
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I've just heard Megrahi is being
granted a second appeal.
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But there's nothing in here that
helps us discover what did happen.
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Was Megrahi framed?
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Whatever it is,
they want to keep it buried.
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I'm so sorry, but it's prostate cancer.
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I don't want to die here, Jim.
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I don't want that either.
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There's a good possibility
that you're released
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on compassionate grounds
and you can keep your appeal.
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I will never give up my appeal.
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My name will be cleared,
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and you will go on and find out
who really did this.
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Oh.
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You're going to miss us.
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Mmm...
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Yes, of course.
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It's for you.
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Britain's biggest
mass murderer is now a free man,
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shown mercy by
Scotland's Justice Secretary.
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Mister al-Megrahi now faces a
sentence imposed by a higher power.
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Justice Secretary knew his decision
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would be welcomed and reviled.
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The FBI director sent a letter
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to Scotland's justice officials
blasting their decision
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to release Abdelbaset...
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The decision gives
comfort to terrorists
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around the world...
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This man was convicted
of murdering 270 people.
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He showed no compassion to them.
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Served only eight years, and
that works out at about two weeks
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for every one of the lives he took.
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Liberty comes at a price.
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Expected to die within months,
he will do so a guilty man.
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Downing Street released
a letter written by
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Prime Minister Gordon Brown,
asking the Libyan leader
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to handle Megrahi's arrival
with sensitivity.
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...requested that
the Libyan authorities
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keep Megrahi's return low-key.
It was anything but.
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Alongside Megrahi was
Colonel Gaddafi's son,
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Saif al-Islam.
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Hello, Jim Swire.
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Jim, Lance Ferguson from the Mirror.
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You've got the TV on, right?
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- Yes.
- How are you feeling right now?
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You campaigned for Megrahi to go home,
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and this is how he thanks you.
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Have you been played, Jim?
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Has Megrahi killed your search
for justice stone dead?
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Jim, how long have you been waiting?
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A couple of hours.
I couldn't reach you on your phone.
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We've been in meetings all day, and...
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Roddy's tied up in another case.
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Come through.
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I don't know why
he abandoned his appeal.
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We fought so hard for him.
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Why did he do it?
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The Libyans requested Megrahi's release
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under a prisoner transfer agreement
between Libya and the UK,
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but, of course, he was convicted
in a Scottish court,
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and under Scottish law, a prisoner
transfer cannot be granted
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if there's an ongoing appeal,
which obviously there was.
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That still left compassionate release,
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which Megrahi met the criteria for.
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Terminally ill, no more than
three months to live.
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And, crucially,
he didn't need to drop his appeal.
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The case would have still gone
to the appeal court,
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even if he was in Libya.
Even if he were to die in Libya.
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Well, that's what
he promised me would happen.
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His appeal would go on
no matter where he was.
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Then, at the eleventh hour,
he seems to have changed his mind.
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When he told us, Roddy was devastated.
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And it all happened so quickly.
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He was smuggled out of the country
before anyone could notice.
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Did he leave anything for me?
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A message, letter?
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Nothing.
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I only have, um, his address
and telephone number in Tripoli.
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May I have it?
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I mean, surely...
his hand must have been forced.
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We may never find out.
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And maybe that's for the best.
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Thank you, John.
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Reportedly living in the family villa
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in an upmarket area of Tripoli,
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Abdelbaset al-Megrahi,
the convicted Lockerbie bomber,
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is still alive after nine months.
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Very much alive, and very much free,
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living in the lap of luxury,
by all accounts.
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He only had three months to live,
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may actually live another ten years.
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The medical evidence seems to be,
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when you look at it closely,
highly suspect.
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Nearly one year on,
Mr al-Megrahi is still alive.
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Correct.
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Have you been in contact with him?
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I've tried,
but I've been unable to reach him.
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Dr Swire, has al-Megrahi
got away with it?
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A cancer prognosis,
as any doctor knows,
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- is an inexact science.
- Yes.
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And the inference that he is somehow
"getting away with it,"
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frankly, I find that offensive.
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Why else would he drop his appeal?
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I, and many other members
of the UK Families group,
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believe that the authorities pushed
Mr al-Megrahi to drop his appeal
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so that they would
never be held to account
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for the false conviction
of an innocent man.
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And that is why I consider
Mr al-Megrahi
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to be the 271st victim of Lockerbie.
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You realise how many people will
find that offensive?
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The purpose is not to offend people.
The purpose is to find the truth.
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Thank you.
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- Where are you going?
- Out.
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- Where?
- God knows. I just need some air.
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I wish sometimes you'd think about us
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before you open your mouth to them.
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Alright. Alright, alright.
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Murray.
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Long time no see, Jim.
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I thought you'd given up on us.
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Well, this story's got a funny way
of pulling me back in.
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Well...
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Jane is over at Cathy's. She, um...
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She spends quite a bit of time
there with the grandkids.
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Right.
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Order tends to break down.
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Ah, no milk. Sorry.
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Mmm.
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You look exhausted.
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Have you been following
the WikiLeaks story?
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Uh... No, not really.
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It's a media organisation
that's been leaking secret
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and classified information online.
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It's linked to all sorts of stuff.
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Assassinations in Somalia,
government corruption in Kenya,
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Guantanamo Bay,
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and thousands upon thousands
of US embassy cables.
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Well, we've read a few of those.
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Everything that the powers that be
don't want us to see.
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And I found something.
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Buried amongst it all.
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About Megrahi.
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The Libyans made a direct threat
to the UK.
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What do you mean, "threat"?
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They wanted Megrahi out. Home. ASAP.
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If he died in prison here,
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then all trade, political ties,
would be ceased immediately.
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Trade with Libya means only one thing.
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Oil.
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You remember when Tony Blair
met Gaddafi in 2004?
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The "Deal in the Desert"? Aye?
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Well, they met again in 2007,
and BP signed a £90million deal.
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And in that second meeting,
Blair and Gaddafi
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signed a prisoner transfer agreement.
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And I reckon that was
only ever about one man.
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Megrahi.
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Yeah. The British wanted into
those oil fields desperately,
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and Gaddafi suddenly is
threatening to rip it all up.
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They had no choice but to sign.
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So do you think
the Labour government put pressure
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on the Scottish government
to release him?
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Well, they claim they didn't,
but it's on record.
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Kenny MacAskill took phone calls
from Jack Straw,
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Lord Chancellor and Justice Minister
at the time.
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And after that,
MacAskill met with Megrahi
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and his Libyan lawyers in private.
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It caused an outrage at the time.
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Now, we don't know
what was said in those meetings,
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but what we do know
is we've got two sides,
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both wanting what the other had.
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With Megrahi at the centre of it,
all reduced to a political pawn.
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Aye.
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Makes you wonder what was behind him
dropping his appeal.
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The former Labour
government has been accused
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of organised hypocrisy.
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The Americans, they
wanted Megrahi to die in prison,
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but saying privately to the Libyans
that they wanted him released.
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I'd like to know if
there was some kind of
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illicit deal here. There was a story
in many of the newspapers
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that this was done particularly
by the British government
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in return for getting an oil
contract. That would be despicable.
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We need to know what
this oil deal was all about
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and whether there was a compromise
to the judicial system
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for commercial gain.
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Some of your citizens
believe that it was the result
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of a deal, and that deal
had to do with oil.
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There was no deal. I can give you an
absolute, unconditional assurance...
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The so-called Arab Spring
appears to be spreading
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to Libya today, as hundreds of
anti-government protesters
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have clashed with police
in Libya's second city, Benghazi.
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Gaddafi, go away. We don't want you.
Neither you or your family.
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Colonel Gaddafi is crazy.
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They're worried he will kill
and kill and kill
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just to save his regime.
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This is not
an Egyptian-style protest movement.
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This is a war for Libya.
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And the people of
Libya have made themselves clear.
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It is time for Gaddafi to go.
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The rebel-held east
of Libya had been staring at defeat,
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but now they're tasting victory.
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A degree of chaos is settling in here.
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There are simply too many gunmen
and no central authority.
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Gaddafi, from somewhere in hiding,
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is vowing to fight to the death.
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I think today is a day to remember
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all of Colonel Gaddafi's victims.
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To Yvonne Fletcher,
and obviously those who died
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in connection with the Pan Am flight
over Lockerbie...
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With the fall of
Gaddafi, the darkest secrets
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of his regime are beginning to surface.
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This is confirmation, now
that Colonel Gaddafi
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personally ordered the bombing
of Pan Am Flight 103.
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Libya's ex-foreign minister
reportedly telling a newspaper
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that Gaddafi gave the order
to Abdelbaset al-Megrahi.
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This brings into question
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the decision to approve
Megrahi's release.
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Baset?
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Baset, it's Jim Swire.
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No, please speak English.
Please speak English.
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I need to know what's going on.
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Baset, I need to know.
Please tell me why-
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Jim?
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Jim?
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Jim?
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Jim!
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Oh, thank God. Thank God.
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Jim.
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What are you doing here?
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You're freezing.
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I was so sure.
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I thought Baset was innocent, but...
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...I don't know anymore.
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Don't know what to believe.
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And if I don't know that,
if I don't know...
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...what I believe, then...
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What will I do?
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That's 20 years of my life wasted.
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With no one to blame but myself.
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You have to go.
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To Libya.
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I don't even know
if he's alive or dead.
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I don't want you to, but it's
the only way you'll find out.
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00:17:56,237 --> 00:17:58,317
You have to find him
and you have to ask him.
253
00:18:36,594 --> 00:18:37,634
Taxi?
254
00:18:48,140 --> 00:18:49,500
Where do you want to go?
255
00:18:54,860 --> 00:18:56,039
Will you take me here?
256
00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:02,220
- It's too dangerous.
- I have money.
257
00:19:03,686 --> 00:19:04,886
How much do you need?
258
00:19:06,860 --> 00:19:08,340
Yalla. Get in.
259
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,580
Who are they?
260
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Militia.
261
00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:33,080
Many, many militia everywhere.
262
00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:01,780
Thank you.
263
00:20:02,540 --> 00:20:04,540
Ah, add it to my tip.
264
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,679
Uh, I'm Jim Swire.
265
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,460
- Jim Swire.
- I'm from England.
266
00:21:06,353 --> 00:21:07,793
I've come to see Baset.
267
00:21:08,633 --> 00:21:11,513
I'm here to see Baset.
268
00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:14,580
I'm here to see Baset.
269
00:21:19,260 --> 00:21:20,700
Bye-bye.
270
00:21:22,860 --> 00:21:26,219
Baset!
271
00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:27,599
Alright!
272
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,839
Baset! It's Jim!
273
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,660
It's Jim.
274
00:21:53,623 --> 00:21:54,803
Thank you.
275
00:22:03,863 --> 00:22:05,423
Ghada. It's just me.
276
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,000
I promise you, I came alone.
277
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,560
I needed to see him, so I came.
278
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,720
Then you're crazy.
279
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,200
Yes, probably.
280
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,240
Is he here?
281
00:22:33,746 --> 00:22:34,746
Come with us.
282
00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:24,079
You shouldn't have come.
283
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,120
I had to.
284
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,160
Libya is a dangerous country.
You could be killed.
285
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,640
I realise that.
286
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,280
Come.
287
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,440
Please.
288
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,760
I know why you have come.
289
00:23:50,787 --> 00:23:53,026
It was not to inquire after my health.
290
00:23:53,133 --> 00:23:55,133
I phoned. I wrote letters.
291
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,880
I did not reply.
292
00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:02,813
I saw this as a friendship.
293
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,200
It is friendship.
294
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,520
It is.
295
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,960
I gave you my word.
296
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,560
I broke my word.
297
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,800
Forgive me.
298
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,959
I know that dropping my appeal means
you're still not released from this.
299
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,240
Why did you?
300
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,680
I had no choice.
301
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:36,040
I was allowed only to return home
to my family to die here.
302
00:24:36,693 --> 00:24:38,213
Under one condition.
303
00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:41,999
I still remain guilty.
304
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,880
I am only a tiny player in a...
305
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,160
...far greater game.
306
00:24:52,639 --> 00:24:54,918
They don't care about my innocence.
307
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,400
They never have.
308
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,520
I am no use to anyone
as an innocent man.
309
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,880
Only to you.
310
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,760
But I am tired now.
311
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,040
And I am dying.
312
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,640
I cannot take them on.
I cannot prove them wrong.
313
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:28,120
But you...
314
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,000
You can keep fighting.
315
00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:58,900
We have worked on this together,
myself, Ghada, and John Ashton.
316
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,820
We had to keep it secret,
317
00:26:02,173 --> 00:26:04,973
for fear of censorship.
318
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200
John will publish the findings soon.
319
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,640
Please, Jim. Open, open.
320
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,040
PT/35b.
321
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,420
The timer fragment.
322
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,000
The key piece of evidence
against my father.
323
00:26:29,696 --> 00:26:32,999
The head of the FBI investigation,
Richard Marquis,
324
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,519
said that without it, there would
not have been an indictment.
325
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,560
Without it, there is no case
against my father.
326
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,519
But John Ashton met the technician
who built the MEBO timer boards.
327
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,539
From the timers
that were supplied to Libya.
328
00:26:46,540 --> 00:26:50,799
Mmm. He told him that the circuitry
on MEBO boards was coated
329
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,000
with an alloy of 70% tin and 30% lead.
330
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,760
That is how he always constructed them.
331
00:26:58,413 --> 00:27:02,252
But PT/35b was coated with pure tin,
332
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,640
no lead whatsoever.
333
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,440
The fragment is not from a MEBO board.
334
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,440
It was not sold to Libya.
335
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,799
But Feraday in court,
the forensics expert,
336
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,099
he swore that the timer fragment
was similar in all respects...
337
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,619
...to the sample boards
obtained from MEBO.
338
00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:22,980
Feraday's notes.
339
00:27:23,264 --> 00:27:26,700
The page is dated August 1991,
340
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,720
four months before his forensic report.
341
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,060
He records that the metallic coating
on the fragment is pure tin.
342
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,199
But here, on this page, he also states
343
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,880
that the metallic coating on the
sample board itself was...
344
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,240
You see? You see what he's written?
345
00:27:46,617 --> 00:27:50,840
In other notes, he even speculated
why there could be discrepancies.
346
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,520
He knew they weren't an exact match.
347
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,520
The question is, who else knew?
348
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,059
The Scottish police, the Crown office,
349
00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:06,279
the prosecution, DOJ, CIA?
350
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,320
PT/35b...
351
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,440
...was planted.
352
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,260
The timer fragment
has no connection to Libya,
353
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,080
and no connection to my father.
354
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,160
It was used only to frame him.
355
00:28:23,253 --> 00:28:26,333
The whole case against me
dissolves into thin air.
356
00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:59,559
Dr Jim Swire.
357
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,680
Jim...
358
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,240
How did I survive so long?
359
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,520
How did I confound medical expertise?
360
00:29:16,773 --> 00:29:19,920
Here... is the answer.
361
00:29:27,187 --> 00:29:31,080
We have lived so long with the dead...
362
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480
...and we must never forget them.
363
00:29:35,813 --> 00:29:37,173
But how much sweeter...
364
00:29:37,947 --> 00:29:39,587
...to be with the living.
365
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,320
When I die, Jim...
366
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,120
...I am going to a place
where I hope to see Flora.
367
00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:31,493
I will tell her...
368
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,360
...that her father is my friend.
369
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,000
Go back, Jim. Go home to your family.
370
00:30:57,310 --> 00:30:58,560
Dr Swire?
371
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,240
Our father is not the Lockerbie bomber.
372
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,760
He's a good man.
373
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,520
He's lucky to have you as a friend.
374
00:31:16,146 --> 00:31:17,146
Thank you.
375
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,000
Back in one piece.
376
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Have you got another trip in you?
377
00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:56,961
Skye, me, the kids, the grandkids.
378
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Will you come?
379
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,920
Am I wanted?
380
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,760
I'll leave you to it.
381
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,000
So where do you think
the fragment came from?
382
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,360
We think,
Baset, Ghada, John Ashton, myself,
383
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,639
we think it was planted,
384
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,720
somewhere along the line.
385
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,380
Planted where?
386
00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:11,519
Well, it could have been planted
by the US intelligence services,
387
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,040
or the UK's,
or both of them conspiring together.
388
00:33:16,306 --> 00:33:17,880
It's happened before.
389
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,760
Is that what happened here?
390
00:33:22,853 --> 00:33:25,413
Have they fooled the world
for 30 years?
391
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,000
If you think about
everything that's happened,
392
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,840
is it really so wild a claim?
393
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,800
Let Iran off the hook,
blame the rogue state, Libya.
394
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,600
Maybe there's some truth in that.
395
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,440
Younger Murray believed it.
396
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,199
- "Just asking the question."
- I've still got questions.
397
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,720
I'll never run out of them.
398
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Why did Gaddafi want to get
one man back to Libya so badly?
399
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,560
Why was it so important to him?
400
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,780
- Popularity?
- Yeah.
401
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,839
Partly, because Megrahi is a hero,
a martyr.
402
00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:08,040
We saw that when he got off that plane.
403
00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:12,160
I think he was involved, Jim.
404
00:34:12,919 --> 00:34:14,159
I really do.
405
00:34:14,696 --> 00:34:18,959
I think Iran wanted revenge
for its Airbus being shot down.
406
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,115
They farmed it out to the PFLP-GC,
407
00:34:21,140 --> 00:34:23,199
but then they got busted
by the German police.
408
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,240
So someone else stepped forward. Libya.
409
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,879
I think when they handed Megrahi
and Fhimah over to be tried,
410
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,879
they didn't think they'd be convicted.
411
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,680
There wasn't enough evidence.
But he was found guilty.
412
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,919
Gaddafi owed it to Megrahi
to get him home.
413
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,279
He owed it to all
his security service personnel
414
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,680
for keeping him in power.
415
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,040
But just because it was a sham trial,
416
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:51,680
it doesn't make Megrahi innocent.
417
00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:55,132
It was Libya.
418
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,840
It was also Iran.
419
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,919
And Syria. And the Palestinians.
420
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,240
You believe all of them?
421
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,400
I don't think we ever truly realise
how much the West is hated.
422
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,799
And no wonder.
Look how we act, what we do.
423
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,159
Look how we justify it.
424
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,200
I mean, always someone else.
425
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Never us.
426
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,440
You might never find the answer
you're looking for. You know that?
427
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,520
Well, there, Murray,
I have to disagree with you.
428
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:36,680
That's new evidence.
429
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,440
No one can dispute it.
No one. Changes everything.
430
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,159
So the fight goes on.
431
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,819
Well, of course the fight goes on.
432
00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:47,059
They're gonna write that on
your gravestone, you know that?
433
00:35:47,060 --> 00:35:49,240
Well, I'm not planning
one of those just yet.
434
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,800
It's been a hell of a ride, Dr Swire.
435
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,360
It's far from over, Murray.
436
00:36:04,585 --> 00:36:06,025
It's far from over.
437
00:36:18,266 --> 00:36:19,680
Can I pay for that?
438
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,920
What's that?
439
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,000
The Lockerbie disaster.
440
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,120
What was that?
441
00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:47,499
But again, essentially, a dry picture.
442
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:49,975
And as I mentioned,
warming up as the week goes on.
443
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,919
And that's how it's looking at
the moment. Susan, back to you.
444
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,680
Thank you, Helen.
That was Helen Willets.
445
00:37:11,319 --> 00:37:16,080
BBC News at 6:00.
This is Peter Donaldson.
446
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,020
Good evening.
447
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,959
The only person to be convicted
of the Lockerbie bombing
448
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,219
has died of cancer
at his home in Libya.
449
00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:28,540
David Cameron said the death
of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi
450
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,179
was a moment to remember
the victims of what he called
451
00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:32,840
an "appalling terrorist act."
452
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,339
The Scottish government has said
investigations into the bombings
453
00:37:36,340 --> 00:37:37,440
will continue.
454
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,260
An earthquake has struck
northern Italy...
455
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,599
Go! Come on! Run, run, run, run!
456
00:38:24,839 --> 00:38:26,760
Isabel! Archie, come on!
457
00:38:30,330 --> 00:38:31,480
He's dead.
458
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,880
I don't know what to say.
459
00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:44,906
At some kind of peace now, hopefully.
460
00:38:49,306 --> 00:38:50,586
But not you.
461
00:38:53,507 --> 00:38:55,587
Well, he's gone, but...
462
00:38:58,359 --> 00:39:00,039
...it's not the end, no.
463
00:39:05,903 --> 00:39:07,863
There was a time I envied you.
464
00:39:09,583 --> 00:39:11,463
Your persistence, your anger.
465
00:39:12,543 --> 00:39:14,223
How it drove you on.
466
00:39:16,023 --> 00:39:17,622
Well, if I'd done nothing,
467
00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:20,560
if I'd just sat down and cried,
I'd never have stopped.
468
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,143
All these years.
469
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,943
On and on and on.
470
00:39:31,223 --> 00:39:32,400
It's always for her.
471
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,000
It's always been for her.
472
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,983
That night, the night it happened...
473
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,423
...do you remember the awful waiting?
474
00:39:51,316 --> 00:39:53,475
Not knowing if she was alive or dead?
475
00:39:57,503 --> 00:40:01,343
Sometimes I think we're no closer
to the truth now than we were then.
476
00:40:04,103 --> 00:40:08,560
Maybe the only truth is... we'll
never really know what happened.
477
00:40:11,783 --> 00:40:13,400
And that breaks my heart.
478
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,920
But once I started to accept
that I may never get an answer,
479
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,760
I may never know...
480
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,200
...it meant that I could go on.
481
00:40:28,877 --> 00:40:30,120
And I will.
482
00:40:32,343 --> 00:40:33,423
For them.
483
00:40:41,423 --> 00:40:43,400
Come on, come on.
484
00:40:46,863 --> 00:40:48,703
You can't give up. I know that.
485
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,583
I know.
486
00:41:21,383 --> 00:41:23,223
Lucas, I wanna catch this!
487
00:41:29,623 --> 00:41:32,982
Oh, now things are going to change
up. Granddad's playing.
488
00:41:35,383 --> 00:41:37,900
- Look out over here.
- Probably better get way out.
489
00:41:39,703 --> 00:41:42,023
Oh! Yeah!
490
00:41:43,463 --> 00:41:45,983
We got out! We got him out!
491
00:42:53,263 --> 00:42:54,863
It's too full.
492
00:42:56,183 --> 00:42:57,983
It's fine.
493
00:42:59,023 --> 00:43:00,860
Ta-da!
494
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,720
Dad, Mum, come here.
495
00:43:15,370 --> 00:43:16,920
Why? What is it?
496
00:43:17,170 --> 00:43:18,520
A newsflash.
497
00:43:19,010 --> 00:43:20,290
A plane's gone down.
498
00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:23,560
It won't be her flight. It can't be.
499
00:43:24,805 --> 00:43:26,168
What's going on?
500
00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:27,809
Cathy, did Flora make her flight?
501
00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:29,380
- Yeah, I think so.
- Oh!
502
00:43:31,890 --> 00:43:33,609
So all your damn computers,
503
00:43:33,610 --> 00:43:36,570
and you can't say whether
my child is on that plane!
504
00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:42,050
We have confirmation for you.
505
00:43:43,170 --> 00:43:45,850
The passenger list
has been checked and verified.
506
00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:52,640
Flora MacDonald Margaret Swire was
a passenger on Pan Am Flight 103.
507
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,800
I'm afraid there are no survivors.
508
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,450
No...
509
00:44:04,490 --> 00:44:07,020
No, no.
510
00:44:19,916 --> 00:44:22,680
We have lived so long with the dead,
511
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,400
but how much sweeter
to be with the living.
512
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,520
It's been a hell of a ride, Dr Swire.
513
00:44:32,730 --> 00:44:34,129
Guilty.
514
00:45:01,449 --> 00:45:02,640
Be with us.
515
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,960
Go and have the time of your life.
516
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,360
Love you, Dad.
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