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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:36,033 --> 00:00:37,672 I think we should move. 2 00:00:37,673 --> 00:00:40,632 - I'm not leaving this house! - I want to be around life, not death. 3 00:00:40,633 --> 00:00:43,632 Not death, every single minute of the day. 4 00:00:43,633 --> 00:00:45,352 - Guilty. - He can't be... 5 00:00:45,353 --> 00:00:47,512 The case against you is a travesty of justice. 6 00:00:47,513 --> 00:00:50,912 The entire prosecution case rested on this. 7 00:00:50,913 --> 00:00:53,832 The tracks on the fragment are of copper, 8 00:00:53,833 --> 00:00:55,992 covered by a layer of pure tin. 9 00:00:55,993 --> 00:00:58,192 What is this? No, this is not the same fragment. 10 00:00:58,193 --> 00:01:00,672 And I will do everything in my power to help you. 11 00:01:00,673 --> 00:01:03,032 I've just heard Megrahi is being granted a second appeal. 12 00:01:03,033 --> 00:01:05,752 But there's nothing in here that helps us discover what did happen. 13 00:01:05,753 --> 00:01:07,072 Was Megrahi framed? 14 00:01:07,073 --> 00:01:08,872 Whatever it is, they want to keep it buried. 15 00:01:08,873 --> 00:01:10,928 I'm so sorry, but it's prostate cancer. 16 00:01:10,953 --> 00:01:12,552 I don't want to die here, Jim. 17 00:01:12,553 --> 00:01:13,672 I don't want that either. 18 00:01:13,673 --> 00:01:16,112 There's a good possibility that you're released 19 00:01:16,113 --> 00:01:19,712 on compassionate grounds and you can keep your appeal. 20 00:01:19,713 --> 00:01:22,232 I will never give up my appeal. 21 00:01:22,233 --> 00:01:24,072 My name will be cleared, 22 00:01:24,253 --> 00:01:26,652 and you will go on and find out who really did this. 23 00:02:07,146 --> 00:02:08,192 Oh. 24 00:02:15,893 --> 00:02:17,373 You're going to miss us. 25 00:02:18,453 --> 00:02:20,253 Mmm... 26 00:02:21,143 --> 00:02:22,383 Yes, of course. 27 00:02:26,983 --> 00:02:28,263 It's for you. 28 00:03:33,863 --> 00:03:37,382 Britain's biggest mass murderer is now a free man, 29 00:03:37,383 --> 00:03:40,222 shown mercy by Scotland's Justice Secretary. 30 00:03:40,223 --> 00:03:44,950 Mister al-Megrahi now faces a sentence imposed by a higher power. 31 00:03:44,975 --> 00:03:46,832 Justice Secretary knew his decision 32 00:03:46,833 --> 00:03:48,352 would be welcomed and reviled. 33 00:03:48,353 --> 00:03:49,672 The FBI director sent a letter 34 00:03:49,673 --> 00:03:52,488 to Scotland's justice officials blasting their decision 35 00:03:52,513 --> 00:03:53,632 to release Abdelbaset... 36 00:03:53,633 --> 00:03:55,552 The decision gives comfort to terrorists 37 00:03:55,553 --> 00:03:56,752 around the world... 38 00:03:56,753 --> 00:03:59,288 This man was convicted of murdering 270 people. 39 00:03:59,313 --> 00:04:00,992 He showed no compassion to them. 40 00:04:00,993 --> 00:04:04,592 Served only eight years, and that works out at about two weeks 41 00:04:04,593 --> 00:04:06,432 for every one of the lives he took. 42 00:04:06,433 --> 00:04:08,192 Liberty comes at a price. 43 00:04:08,193 --> 00:04:11,512 Expected to die within months, he will do so a guilty man. 44 00:04:11,513 --> 00:04:13,472 Downing Street released a letter written by 45 00:04:13,473 --> 00:04:15,552 Prime Minister Gordon Brown, asking the Libyan leader 46 00:04:15,553 --> 00:04:18,112 to handle Megrahi's arrival with sensitivity. 47 00:04:18,113 --> 00:04:19,712 ...requested that the Libyan authorities 48 00:04:19,713 --> 00:04:22,472 keep Megrahi's return low-key. It was anything but. 49 00:04:22,473 --> 00:04:24,912 Alongside Megrahi was Colonel Gaddafi's son, 50 00:04:24,913 --> 00:04:27,113 Saif al-Islam. 51 00:04:39,193 --> 00:04:40,472 Hello, Jim Swire. 52 00:04:40,473 --> 00:04:42,872 Jim, Lance Ferguson from the Mirror. 53 00:04:42,873 --> 00:04:44,512 You've got the TV on, right? 54 00:04:44,513 --> 00:04:46,833 - Yes. - How are you feeling right now? 55 00:04:47,596 --> 00:04:49,435 You campaigned for Megrahi to go home, 56 00:04:49,436 --> 00:04:51,035 and this is how he thanks you. 57 00:04:51,036 --> 00:04:52,515 Have you been played, Jim? 58 00:04:52,516 --> 00:04:55,691 Has Megrahi killed your search for justice stone dead? 59 00:05:25,716 --> 00:05:28,608 Jim, how long have you been waiting? 60 00:05:28,633 --> 00:05:31,493 A couple of hours. I couldn't reach you on your phone. 61 00:05:32,853 --> 00:05:35,133 We've been in meetings all day, and... 62 00:05:35,770 --> 00:05:37,733 Roddy's tied up in another case. 63 00:05:40,970 --> 00:05:42,250 Come through. 64 00:05:45,573 --> 00:05:47,813 I don't know why he abandoned his appeal. 65 00:05:48,973 --> 00:05:50,453 We fought so hard for him. 66 00:05:51,933 --> 00:05:53,053 Why did he do it? 67 00:05:55,729 --> 00:05:58,712 The Libyans requested Megrahi's release 68 00:05:58,713 --> 00:06:01,732 under a prisoner transfer agreement between Libya and the UK, 69 00:06:02,013 --> 00:06:04,352 but, of course, he was convicted in a Scottish court, 70 00:06:04,353 --> 00:06:07,552 and under Scottish law, a prisoner transfer cannot be granted 71 00:06:07,553 --> 00:06:09,992 if there's an ongoing appeal, which obviously there was. 72 00:06:09,993 --> 00:06:11,792 That still left compassionate release, 73 00:06:11,793 --> 00:06:13,752 which Megrahi met the criteria for. 74 00:06:13,753 --> 00:06:15,872 Terminally ill, no more than three months to live. 75 00:06:15,873 --> 00:06:17,952 And, crucially, he didn't need to drop his appeal. 76 00:06:17,953 --> 00:06:19,952 The case would have still gone to the appeal court, 77 00:06:19,953 --> 00:06:22,112 even if he was in Libya. Even if he were to die in Libya. 78 00:06:22,113 --> 00:06:24,072 Well, that's what he promised me would happen. 79 00:06:24,073 --> 00:06:26,328 His appeal would go on no matter where he was. 80 00:06:26,353 --> 00:06:29,793 Then, at the eleventh hour, he seems to have changed his mind. 81 00:06:32,073 --> 00:06:35,192 When he told us, Roddy was devastated. 82 00:06:35,373 --> 00:06:37,212 And it all happened so quickly. 83 00:06:37,213 --> 00:06:39,813 He was smuggled out of the country before anyone could notice. 84 00:06:41,533 --> 00:06:43,693 Did he leave anything for me? 85 00:06:44,386 --> 00:06:46,226 A message, letter? 86 00:06:47,693 --> 00:06:48,813 Nothing. 87 00:06:49,533 --> 00:06:54,173 I only have, um, his address and telephone number in Tripoli. 88 00:06:54,653 --> 00:06:56,853 May I have it? 89 00:07:01,386 --> 00:07:06,106 I mean, surely... his hand must have been forced. 90 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:10,799 We may never find out. 91 00:07:12,573 --> 00:07:14,213 And maybe that's for the best. 92 00:07:20,413 --> 00:07:22,893 Thank you, John. 93 00:07:47,693 --> 00:07:49,772 Reportedly living in the family villa 94 00:07:49,773 --> 00:07:51,652 in an upmarket area of Tripoli, 95 00:07:51,653 --> 00:07:55,672 Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the convicted Lockerbie bomber, 96 00:07:55,673 --> 00:07:58,238 is still alive after nine months. 97 00:07:58,263 --> 00:08:00,792 Very much alive, and very much free, 98 00:08:00,793 --> 00:08:03,272 living in the lap of luxury, by all accounts. 99 00:08:03,273 --> 00:08:04,872 He only had three months to live, 100 00:08:04,873 --> 00:08:07,552 may actually live another ten years. 101 00:08:07,553 --> 00:08:08,792 The medical evidence seems to be, 102 00:08:08,793 --> 00:08:12,312 when you look at it closely, highly suspect. 103 00:08:12,313 --> 00:08:14,953 Nearly one year on, Mr al-Megrahi is still alive. 104 00:08:15,141 --> 00:08:16,432 Correct. 105 00:08:16,433 --> 00:08:17,792 Have you been in contact with him? 106 00:08:17,793 --> 00:08:20,413 I've tried, but I've been unable to reach him. 107 00:08:21,061 --> 00:08:24,381 Dr Swire, has al-Megrahi got away with it? 108 00:08:26,489 --> 00:08:29,140 A cancer prognosis, as any doctor knows, 109 00:08:29,141 --> 00:08:30,900 - is an inexact science. - Yes. 110 00:08:30,901 --> 00:08:33,973 And the inference that he is somehow "getting away with it," 111 00:08:34,901 --> 00:08:36,741 frankly, I find that offensive. 112 00:08:37,661 --> 00:08:39,653 Why else would he drop his appeal? 113 00:08:39,861 --> 00:08:42,472 I, and many other members of the UK Families group, 114 00:08:42,473 --> 00:08:45,592 believe that the authorities pushed Mr al-Megrahi to drop his appeal 115 00:08:45,593 --> 00:08:48,312 so that they would never be held to account 116 00:08:48,313 --> 00:08:50,253 for the false conviction of an innocent man. 117 00:08:50,893 --> 00:08:53,152 And that is why I consider Mr al-Megrahi 118 00:08:53,153 --> 00:08:55,940 to be the 271st victim of Lockerbie. 119 00:08:58,941 --> 00:09:01,781 You realise how many people will find that offensive? 120 00:09:02,687 --> 00:09:06,093 The purpose is not to offend people. The purpose is to find the truth. 121 00:09:12,941 --> 00:09:14,101 Thank you. 122 00:09:26,013 --> 00:09:27,933 - Where are you going? - Out. 123 00:09:28,893 --> 00:09:31,373 - Where? - God knows. I just need some air. 124 00:09:33,310 --> 00:09:35,389 I wish sometimes you'd think about us 125 00:09:35,390 --> 00:09:36,833 before you open your mouth to them. 126 00:09:58,710 --> 00:10:01,590 Alright. Alright, alright. 127 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:06,693 Murray. 128 00:10:07,203 --> 00:10:08,803 Long time no see, Jim. 129 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:11,750 I thought you'd given up on us. 130 00:10:12,362 --> 00:10:16,293 Well, this story's got a funny way of pulling me back in. 131 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:19,133 Well... 132 00:10:22,270 --> 00:10:24,669 Jane is over at Cathy's. She, um... 133 00:10:27,013 --> 00:10:29,829 She spends quite a bit of time there with the grandkids. 134 00:10:29,830 --> 00:10:30,773 Right. 135 00:10:32,390 --> 00:10:34,253 Order tends to break down. 136 00:10:35,856 --> 00:10:38,856 Ah, no milk. Sorry. 137 00:10:40,070 --> 00:10:41,033 Mmm. 138 00:10:45,150 --> 00:10:46,653 You look exhausted. 139 00:10:51,550 --> 00:10:53,733 Have you been following the WikiLeaks story? 140 00:10:54,030 --> 00:10:55,669 Uh... No, not really. 141 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:58,469 It's a media organisation that's been leaking secret 142 00:10:58,470 --> 00:11:00,389 and classified information online. 143 00:11:00,390 --> 00:11:02,390 It's linked to all sorts of stuff. 144 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:06,589 Assassinations in Somalia, government corruption in Kenya, 145 00:11:06,590 --> 00:11:08,109 Guantanamo Bay, 146 00:11:08,110 --> 00:11:11,389 and thousands upon thousands of US embassy cables. 147 00:11:11,390 --> 00:11:13,573 Well, we've read a few of those. 148 00:11:13,870 --> 00:11:16,350 Everything that the powers that be don't want us to see. 149 00:11:17,123 --> 00:11:18,363 And I found something. 150 00:11:19,483 --> 00:11:20,763 Buried amongst it all. 151 00:11:22,070 --> 00:11:23,270 About Megrahi. 152 00:11:26,590 --> 00:11:30,070 The Libyans made a direct threat to the UK. 153 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:32,909 What do you mean, "threat"? 154 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:36,253 They wanted Megrahi out. Home. ASAP. 155 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:38,013 If he died in prison here, 156 00:11:38,190 --> 00:11:41,670 then all trade, political ties, would be ceased immediately. 157 00:11:42,590 --> 00:11:44,629 Trade with Libya means only one thing. 158 00:11:44,630 --> 00:11:45,670 Oil. 159 00:11:46,442 --> 00:11:49,881 You remember when Tony Blair met Gaddafi in 2004? 160 00:11:50,070 --> 00:11:52,333 The "Deal in the Desert"? Aye? 161 00:11:52,535 --> 00:11:57,773 Well, they met again in 2007, and BP signed a £90million deal. 162 00:11:58,150 --> 00:12:01,189 And in that second meeting, Blair and Gaddafi 163 00:12:01,190 --> 00:12:03,573 signed a prisoner transfer agreement. 164 00:12:04,013 --> 00:12:06,373 And I reckon that was only ever about one man. 165 00:12:06,670 --> 00:12:07,870 Megrahi. 166 00:12:08,616 --> 00:12:12,253 Yeah. The British wanted into those oil fields desperately, 167 00:12:12,670 --> 00:12:15,373 and Gaddafi suddenly is threatening to rip it all up. 168 00:12:15,670 --> 00:12:17,653 They had no choice but to sign. 169 00:12:17,950 --> 00:12:20,069 So do you think the Labour government put pressure 170 00:12:20,070 --> 00:12:21,832 on the Scottish government to release him? 171 00:12:21,833 --> 00:12:24,590 Well, they claim they didn't, but it's on record. 172 00:12:25,470 --> 00:12:28,749 Kenny MacAskill took phone calls from Jack Straw, 173 00:12:29,133 --> 00:12:32,709 Lord Chancellor and Justice Minister at the time. 174 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:35,312 And after that, MacAskill met with Megrahi 175 00:12:35,313 --> 00:12:37,613 and his Libyan lawyers in private. 176 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:39,433 It caused an outrage at the time. 177 00:12:39,486 --> 00:12:42,393 Now, we don't know what was said in those meetings, 178 00:12:42,590 --> 00:12:46,353 but what we do know is we've got two sides, 179 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:49,110 both wanting what the other had. 180 00:12:50,070 --> 00:12:53,533 With Megrahi at the centre of it, all reduced to a political pawn. 181 00:12:53,910 --> 00:12:54,950 Aye. 182 00:12:55,336 --> 00:12:58,353 Makes you wonder what was behind him dropping his appeal. 183 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:07,337 The former Labour government has been accused 184 00:13:07,338 --> 00:13:09,053 of organised hypocrisy. 185 00:13:09,054 --> 00:13:11,536 The Americans, they wanted Megrahi to die in prison, 186 00:13:11,537 --> 00:13:15,176 but saying privately to the Libyans that they wanted him released. 187 00:13:15,177 --> 00:13:16,816 I'd like to know if there was some kind of 188 00:13:16,817 --> 00:13:20,176 illicit deal here. There was a story in many of the newspapers 189 00:13:20,177 --> 00:13:23,256 that this was done particularly by the British government 190 00:13:23,257 --> 00:13:26,453 in return for getting an oil contract. That would be despicable. 191 00:13:26,454 --> 00:13:28,816 We need to know what this oil deal was all about 192 00:13:28,817 --> 00:13:31,656 and whether there was a compromise to the judicial system 193 00:13:31,657 --> 00:13:33,016 for commercial gain. 194 00:13:33,017 --> 00:13:35,056 Some of your citizens believe that it was the result 195 00:13:35,057 --> 00:13:36,896 of a deal, and that deal had to do with oil. 196 00:13:36,897 --> 00:13:40,576 There was no deal. I can give you an absolute, unconditional assurance... 197 00:13:40,577 --> 00:13:42,736 The so-called Arab Spring appears to be spreading 198 00:13:42,737 --> 00:13:45,776 to Libya today, as hundreds of anti-government protesters 199 00:13:45,777 --> 00:13:48,896 have clashed with police in Libya's second city, Benghazi. 200 00:13:48,897 --> 00:13:53,213 Gaddafi, go away. We don't want you. Neither you or your family. 201 00:13:53,214 --> 00:13:54,856 Colonel Gaddafi is crazy. 202 00:13:54,857 --> 00:13:57,373 They're worried he will kill and kill and kill 203 00:13:57,374 --> 00:13:58,696 just to save his regime. 204 00:13:58,697 --> 00:14:01,016 This is not an Egyptian-style protest movement. 205 00:14:01,017 --> 00:14:02,416 This is a war for Libya. 206 00:14:02,417 --> 00:14:05,176 And the people of Libya have made themselves clear. 207 00:14:05,177 --> 00:14:07,235 It is time for Gaddafi to go. 208 00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:09,816 The rebel-held east of Libya had been staring at defeat, 209 00:14:09,817 --> 00:14:11,656 but now they're tasting victory. 210 00:14:11,657 --> 00:14:13,536 A degree of chaos is settling in here. 211 00:14:13,537 --> 00:14:17,232 There are simply too many gunmen and no central authority. 212 00:14:17,257 --> 00:14:19,216 Gaddafi, from somewhere in hiding, 213 00:14:19,217 --> 00:14:20,696 is vowing to fight to the death. 214 00:14:22,097 --> 00:14:23,976 I think today is a day to remember 215 00:14:23,977 --> 00:14:26,220 all of Colonel Gaddafi's victims. 216 00:14:26,430 --> 00:14:29,496 To Yvonne Fletcher, and obviously those who died 217 00:14:29,497 --> 00:14:32,152 in connection with the Pan Am flight over Lockerbie... 218 00:14:32,177 --> 00:14:34,136 With the fall of Gaddafi, the darkest secrets 219 00:14:34,137 --> 00:14:36,056 of his regime are beginning to surface. 220 00:14:36,057 --> 00:14:38,456 This is confirmation, now that Colonel Gaddafi 221 00:14:38,457 --> 00:14:41,616 personally ordered the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103. 222 00:14:41,617 --> 00:14:45,016 Libya's ex-foreign minister reportedly telling a newspaper 223 00:14:45,017 --> 00:14:48,272 that Gaddafi gave the order to Abdelbaset al-Megrahi. 224 00:14:48,297 --> 00:14:50,056 This brings into question 225 00:14:50,057 --> 00:14:52,592 the decision to approve Megrahi's release. 226 00:15:02,777 --> 00:15:04,257 Baset? 227 00:15:05,016 --> 00:15:06,695 Baset, it's Jim Swire. 228 00:15:08,184 --> 00:15:10,817 No, please speak English. Please speak English. 229 00:15:11,737 --> 00:15:14,337 I need to know what's going on. 230 00:15:15,577 --> 00:15:18,016 Baset, I need to know. Please tell me why- 231 00:15:32,644 --> 00:15:33,884 Jim? 232 00:15:40,937 --> 00:15:42,057 Jim? 233 00:16:24,417 --> 00:16:25,497 Jim? 234 00:16:29,137 --> 00:16:30,377 Jim! 235 00:16:42,497 --> 00:16:45,737 Oh, thank God. Thank God. 236 00:16:47,177 --> 00:16:48,897 Jim. 237 00:16:52,044 --> 00:16:53,684 What are you doing here? 238 00:16:55,617 --> 00:16:56,677 You're freezing. 239 00:16:58,317 --> 00:16:59,877 I was so sure. 240 00:17:03,227 --> 00:17:06,337 I thought Baset was innocent, but... 241 00:17:07,257 --> 00:17:08,777 ...I don't know anymore. 242 00:17:11,390 --> 00:17:12,950 Don't know what to believe. 243 00:17:16,437 --> 00:17:19,237 And if I don't know that, if I don't know... 244 00:17:20,837 --> 00:17:22,477 ...what I believe, then... 245 00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:26,117 What will I do? 246 00:17:29,117 --> 00:17:31,077 That's 20 years of my life wasted. 247 00:17:32,517 --> 00:17:34,477 With no one to blame but myself. 248 00:17:40,437 --> 00:17:41,957 You have to go. 249 00:17:43,437 --> 00:17:44,577 To Libya. 250 00:17:49,197 --> 00:17:51,237 I don't even know if he's alive or dead. 251 00:17:51,397 --> 00:17:54,397 I don't want you to, but it's the only way you'll find out. 252 00:17:56,237 --> 00:17:58,317 You have to find him and you have to ask him. 253 00:18:36,594 --> 00:18:37,634 Taxi? 254 00:18:48,140 --> 00:18:49,500 Where do you want to go? 255 00:18:54,860 --> 00:18:56,039 Will you take me here? 256 00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:02,220 - It's too dangerous. - I have money. 257 00:19:03,686 --> 00:19:04,886 How much do you need? 258 00:19:06,860 --> 00:19:08,340 Yalla. Get in. 259 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,580 Who are they? 260 00:19:29,220 --> 00:19:31,259 Militia. 261 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:33,080 Many, many militia everywhere. 262 00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:01,780 Thank you. 263 00:20:02,540 --> 00:20:04,540 Ah, add it to my tip. 264 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,679 Uh, I'm Jim Swire. 265 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,460 - Jim Swire. - I'm from England. 266 00:21:06,353 --> 00:21:07,793 I've come to see Baset. 267 00:21:08,633 --> 00:21:11,513 I'm here to see Baset. 268 00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:14,580 I'm here to see Baset. 269 00:21:19,260 --> 00:21:20,700 Bye-bye. 270 00:21:22,860 --> 00:21:26,219 Baset! 271 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:27,599 Alright! 272 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,839 Baset! It's Jim! 273 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,660 It's Jim. 274 00:21:53,623 --> 00:21:54,803 Thank you. 275 00:22:03,863 --> 00:22:05,423 Ghada. It's just me. 276 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,000 I promise you, I came alone. 277 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,560 I needed to see him, so I came. 278 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Then you're crazy. 279 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,200 Yes, probably. 280 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,240 Is he here? 281 00:22:33,746 --> 00:22:34,746 Come with us. 282 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:24,079 You shouldn't have come. 283 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,120 I had to. 284 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,160 Libya is a dangerous country. You could be killed. 285 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,640 I realise that. 286 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,280 Come. 287 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,440 Please. 288 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,760 I know why you have come. 289 00:23:50,787 --> 00:23:53,026 It was not to inquire after my health. 290 00:23:53,133 --> 00:23:55,133 I phoned. I wrote letters. 291 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,880 I did not reply. 292 00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:02,813 I saw this as a friendship. 293 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,200 It is friendship. 294 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,520 It is. 295 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,960 I gave you my word. 296 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,560 I broke my word. 297 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,800 Forgive me. 298 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,959 I know that dropping my appeal means you're still not released from this. 299 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,240 Why did you? 300 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,680 I had no choice. 301 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:36,040 I was allowed only to return home to my family to die here. 302 00:24:36,693 --> 00:24:38,213 Under one condition. 303 00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:41,999 I still remain guilty. 304 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,880 I am only a tiny player in a... 305 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,160 ...far greater game. 306 00:24:52,639 --> 00:24:54,918 They don't care about my innocence. 307 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,400 They never have. 308 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,520 I am no use to anyone as an innocent man. 309 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,880 Only to you. 310 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,760 But I am tired now. 311 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,040 And I am dying. 312 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,640 I cannot take them on. I cannot prove them wrong. 313 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:28,120 But you... 314 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,000 You can keep fighting. 315 00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:58,900 We have worked on this together, myself, Ghada, and John Ashton. 316 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,820 We had to keep it secret, 317 00:26:02,173 --> 00:26:04,973 for fear of censorship. 318 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200 John will publish the findings soon. 319 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,640 Please, Jim. Open, open. 320 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,040 PT/35b. 321 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,420 The timer fragment. 322 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,000 The key piece of evidence against my father. 323 00:26:29,696 --> 00:26:32,999 The head of the FBI investigation, Richard Marquis, 324 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,519 said that without it, there would not have been an indictment. 325 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,560 Without it, there is no case against my father. 326 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,519 But John Ashton met the technician who built the MEBO timer boards. 327 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,539 From the timers that were supplied to Libya. 328 00:26:46,540 --> 00:26:50,799 Mmm. He told him that the circuitry on MEBO boards was coated 329 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,000 with an alloy of 70% tin and 30% lead. 330 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,760 That is how he always constructed them. 331 00:26:58,413 --> 00:27:02,252 But PT/35b was coated with pure tin, 332 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,640 no lead whatsoever. 333 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,440 The fragment is not from a MEBO board. 334 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,440 It was not sold to Libya. 335 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,799 But Feraday in court, the forensics expert, 336 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,099 he swore that the timer fragment was similar in all respects... 337 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,619 ...to the sample boards obtained from MEBO. 338 00:27:21,620 --> 00:27:22,980 Feraday's notes. 339 00:27:23,264 --> 00:27:26,700 The page is dated August 1991, 340 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,720 four months before his forensic report. 341 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,060 He records that the metallic coating on the fragment is pure tin. 342 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,199 But here, on this page, he also states 343 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,880 that the metallic coating on the sample board itself was... 344 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,240 You see? You see what he's written? 345 00:27:46,617 --> 00:27:50,840 In other notes, he even speculated why there could be discrepancies. 346 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,520 He knew they weren't an exact match. 347 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,520 The question is, who else knew? 348 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,059 The Scottish police, the Crown office, 349 00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:06,279 the prosecution, DOJ, CIA? 350 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,320 PT/35b... 351 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,440 ...was planted. 352 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,260 The timer fragment has no connection to Libya, 353 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,080 and no connection to my father. 354 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,160 It was used only to frame him. 355 00:28:23,253 --> 00:28:26,333 The whole case against me dissolves into thin air. 356 00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:59,559 Dr Jim Swire. 357 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,680 Jim... 358 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,240 How did I survive so long? 359 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,520 How did I confound medical expertise? 360 00:29:16,773 --> 00:29:19,920 Here... is the answer. 361 00:29:27,187 --> 00:29:31,080 We have lived so long with the dead... 362 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480 ...and we must never forget them. 363 00:29:35,813 --> 00:29:37,173 But how much sweeter... 364 00:29:37,947 --> 00:29:39,587 ...to be with the living. 365 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,320 When I die, Jim... 366 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,120 ...I am going to a place where I hope to see Flora. 367 00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:31,493 I will tell her... 368 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,360 ...that her father is my friend. 369 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,000 Go back, Jim. Go home to your family. 370 00:30:57,310 --> 00:30:58,560 Dr Swire? 371 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,240 Our father is not the Lockerbie bomber. 372 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,760 He's a good man. 373 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,520 He's lucky to have you as a friend. 374 00:31:16,146 --> 00:31:17,146 Thank you. 375 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,000 Back in one piece. 376 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,360 Have you got another trip in you? 377 00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:56,961 Skye, me, the kids, the grandkids. 378 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,200 Will you come? 379 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Am I wanted? 380 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,760 I'll leave you to it. 381 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,000 So where do you think the fragment came from? 382 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,360 We think, Baset, Ghada, John Ashton, myself, 383 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,639 we think it was planted, 384 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,720 somewhere along the line. 385 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,380 Planted where? 386 00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:11,519 Well, it could have been planted by the US intelligence services, 387 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,040 or the UK's, or both of them conspiring together. 388 00:33:16,306 --> 00:33:17,880 It's happened before. 389 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,760 Is that what happened here? 390 00:33:22,853 --> 00:33:25,413 Have they fooled the world for 30 years? 391 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,000 If you think about everything that's happened, 392 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,840 is it really so wild a claim? 393 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,800 Let Iran off the hook, blame the rogue state, Libya. 394 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,600 Maybe there's some truth in that. 395 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,440 Younger Murray believed it. 396 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,199 - "Just asking the question." - I've still got questions. 397 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,720 I'll never run out of them. 398 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240 Why did Gaddafi want to get one man back to Libya so badly? 399 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,560 Why was it so important to him? 400 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,780 - Popularity? - Yeah. 401 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,839 Partly, because Megrahi is a hero, a martyr. 402 00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:08,040 We saw that when he got off that plane. 403 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:12,160 I think he was involved, Jim. 404 00:34:12,919 --> 00:34:14,159 I really do. 405 00:34:14,696 --> 00:34:18,959 I think Iran wanted revenge for its Airbus being shot down. 406 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,115 They farmed it out to the PFLP-GC, 407 00:34:21,140 --> 00:34:23,199 but then they got busted by the German police. 408 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,240 So someone else stepped forward. Libya. 409 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,879 I think when they handed Megrahi and Fhimah over to be tried, 410 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,879 they didn't think they'd be convicted. 411 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,680 There wasn't enough evidence. But he was found guilty. 412 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,919 Gaddafi owed it to Megrahi to get him home. 413 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,279 He owed it to all his security service personnel 414 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,680 for keeping him in power. 415 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,040 But just because it was a sham trial, 416 00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:51,680 it doesn't make Megrahi innocent. 417 00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:55,132 It was Libya. 418 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,840 It was also Iran. 419 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,919 And Syria. And the Palestinians. 420 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,240 You believe all of them? 421 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,400 I don't think we ever truly realise how much the West is hated. 422 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,799 And no wonder. Look how we act, what we do. 423 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,159 Look how we justify it. 424 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,200 I mean, always someone else. 425 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,640 Never us. 426 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,440 You might never find the answer you're looking for. You know that? 427 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,520 Well, there, Murray, I have to disagree with you. 428 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:36,680 That's new evidence. 429 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,440 No one can dispute it. No one. Changes everything. 430 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,159 So the fight goes on. 431 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,819 Well, of course the fight goes on. 432 00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:47,059 They're gonna write that on your gravestone, you know that? 433 00:35:47,060 --> 00:35:49,240 Well, I'm not planning one of those just yet. 434 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,800 It's been a hell of a ride, Dr Swire. 435 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,360 It's far from over, Murray. 436 00:36:04,585 --> 00:36:06,025 It's far from over. 437 00:36:18,266 --> 00:36:19,680 Can I pay for that? 438 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,920 What's that? 439 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,000 The Lockerbie disaster. 440 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,120 What was that? 441 00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:47,499 But again, essentially, a dry picture. 442 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:49,975 And as I mentioned, warming up as the week goes on. 443 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,919 And that's how it's looking at the moment. Susan, back to you. 444 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,680 Thank you, Helen. That was Helen Willets. 445 00:37:11,319 --> 00:37:16,080 BBC News at 6:00. This is Peter Donaldson. 446 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,020 Good evening. 447 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,959 The only person to be convicted of the Lockerbie bombing 448 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,219 has died of cancer at his home in Libya. 449 00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:28,540 David Cameron said the death of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi 450 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,179 was a moment to remember the victims of what he called 451 00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:32,840 an "appalling terrorist act." 452 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,339 The Scottish government has said investigations into the bombings 453 00:37:36,340 --> 00:37:37,440 will continue. 454 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,260 An earthquake has struck northern Italy... 455 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,599 Go! Come on! Run, run, run, run! 456 00:38:24,839 --> 00:38:26,760 Isabel! Archie, come on! 457 00:38:30,330 --> 00:38:31,480 He's dead. 458 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,880 I don't know what to say. 459 00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:44,906 At some kind of peace now, hopefully. 460 00:38:49,306 --> 00:38:50,586 But not you. 461 00:38:53,507 --> 00:38:55,587 Well, he's gone, but... 462 00:38:58,359 --> 00:39:00,039 ...it's not the end, no. 463 00:39:05,903 --> 00:39:07,863 There was a time I envied you. 464 00:39:09,583 --> 00:39:11,463 Your persistence, your anger. 465 00:39:12,543 --> 00:39:14,223 How it drove you on. 466 00:39:16,023 --> 00:39:17,622 Well, if I'd done nothing, 467 00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:20,560 if I'd just sat down and cried, I'd never have stopped. 468 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,143 All these years. 469 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,943 On and on and on. 470 00:39:31,223 --> 00:39:32,400 It's always for her. 471 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,000 It's always been for her. 472 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,983 That night, the night it happened... 473 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,423 ...do you remember the awful waiting? 474 00:39:51,316 --> 00:39:53,475 Not knowing if she was alive or dead? 475 00:39:57,503 --> 00:40:01,343 Sometimes I think we're no closer to the truth now than we were then. 476 00:40:04,103 --> 00:40:08,560 Maybe the only truth is... we'll never really know what happened. 477 00:40:11,783 --> 00:40:13,400 And that breaks my heart. 478 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,920 But once I started to accept that I may never get an answer, 479 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,760 I may never know... 480 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,200 ...it meant that I could go on. 481 00:40:28,877 --> 00:40:30,120 And I will. 482 00:40:32,343 --> 00:40:33,423 For them. 483 00:40:41,423 --> 00:40:43,400 Come on, come on. 484 00:40:46,863 --> 00:40:48,703 You can't give up. I know that. 485 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,583 I know. 486 00:41:21,383 --> 00:41:23,223 Lucas, I wanna catch this! 487 00:41:29,623 --> 00:41:32,982 Oh, now things are going to change up. Granddad's playing. 488 00:41:35,383 --> 00:41:37,900 - Look out over here. - Probably better get way out. 489 00:41:39,703 --> 00:41:42,023 Oh! Yeah! 490 00:41:43,463 --> 00:41:45,983 We got out! We got him out! 491 00:42:53,263 --> 00:42:54,863 It's too full. 492 00:42:56,183 --> 00:42:57,983 It's fine. 493 00:42:59,023 --> 00:43:00,860 Ta-da! 494 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,720 Dad, Mum, come here. 495 00:43:15,370 --> 00:43:16,920 Why? What is it? 496 00:43:17,170 --> 00:43:18,520 A newsflash. 497 00:43:19,010 --> 00:43:20,290 A plane's gone down. 498 00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:23,560 It won't be her flight. It can't be. 499 00:43:24,805 --> 00:43:26,168 What's going on? 500 00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:27,809 Cathy, did Flora make her flight? 501 00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:29,380 - Yeah, I think so. - Oh! 502 00:43:31,890 --> 00:43:33,609 So all your damn computers, 503 00:43:33,610 --> 00:43:36,570 and you can't say whether my child is on that plane! 504 00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:42,050 We have confirmation for you. 505 00:43:43,170 --> 00:43:45,850 The passenger list has been checked and verified. 506 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:52,640 Flora MacDonald Margaret Swire was a passenger on Pan Am Flight 103. 507 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,800 I'm afraid there are no survivors. 508 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,450 No... 509 00:44:04,490 --> 00:44:07,020 No, no. 510 00:44:19,916 --> 00:44:22,680 We have lived so long with the dead, 511 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,400 but how much sweeter to be with the living. 512 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,520 It's been a hell of a ride, Dr Swire. 513 00:44:32,730 --> 00:44:34,129 Guilty. 514 00:45:01,449 --> 00:45:02,640 Be with us. 515 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,960 Go and have the time of your life. 516 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,360 Love you, Dad. 38126

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