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I thought Iran did it. 8 00:01:08,679 --> 00:01:12,818 This is absolutely central to the Crown's prosecution case. 9 00:01:12,819 --> 00:01:16,258 We are proposing the trial be held in a neutral country. 10 00:01:16,479 --> 00:01:18,679 I only want to know who killed my daughter. 11 00:01:18,839 --> 00:01:21,159 You accept the verdict, whatever it is, 12 00:01:21,879 --> 00:01:23,479 ...and we get you back. 13 00:01:23,899 --> 00:01:25,139 I promise. 14 00:02:42,766 --> 00:02:45,058 The top stories in Scotland today. 15 00:02:45,059 --> 00:02:46,778 Trial of the century opens... 16 00:02:46,779 --> 00:02:48,898 It's being called the trial of the century. 17 00:02:53,019 --> 00:02:54,698 ...finally are standing trial... 18 00:02:54,699 --> 00:02:58,018 Behind me is Camp Zeist, a former military base 19 00:02:58,019 --> 00:03:02,319 outside Utrecht, converted at a cost of £12 million. 20 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,112 On a tiny patch of Dutch soil, designated as Scotland. 21 00:03:06,165 --> 00:03:07,494 There is no jury. 22 00:03:07,495 --> 00:03:10,454 Instead, four Scottish Law Lords will pass judgment... 23 00:03:10,455 --> 00:03:12,294 27 American families are here, 24 00:03:12,295 --> 00:03:15,534 - along with a smaller group... - This is our daughter, Theo Cohen. 25 00:03:15,535 --> 00:03:18,164 She was only 20 years old when her plane 26 00:03:18,189 --> 00:03:19,934 - was blown up over Lockerbie. - It's going to be difficult 27 00:03:19,935 --> 00:03:23,574 to prove the case against two Libyans, but that is not important to me. 28 00:03:23,575 --> 00:03:25,574 I'll just be happy to see them in court. 29 00:03:25,575 --> 00:03:28,294 It's important that we live in a society where the legal system 30 00:03:28,295 --> 00:03:30,574 cannot be manipulated for political ends. 31 00:03:30,575 --> 00:03:33,854 My brother and the others killed cannot demand the justice 32 00:03:33,855 --> 00:03:36,214 they are due. So we must speak for them. 33 00:03:36,215 --> 00:03:38,534 The prosecution must prove beyond all reasonable doubt 34 00:03:38,535 --> 00:03:41,294 that they were responsible for the bombing of Flight 103. 35 00:03:41,295 --> 00:03:44,214 'I have every faith that they will do so.' 36 00:04:01,108 --> 00:04:02,375 So good to see you. 37 00:04:02,376 --> 00:04:04,275 Your attention for a moment, folks. 38 00:04:05,115 --> 00:04:08,467 Uh, Brian Murtagh, US Department of Justice. 39 00:04:08,768 --> 00:04:12,687 Uh, my colleague Dana is right now handing around copies 40 00:04:12,712 --> 00:04:14,610 of the prosecution witness list. 41 00:04:14,635 --> 00:04:17,154 One thousand witnesses to get through. 42 00:04:17,155 --> 00:04:19,035 Any questions, we're right here. 43 00:04:23,155 --> 00:04:24,834 - Honour to meet you, sir. - Pleasure. 44 00:04:24,835 --> 00:04:27,735 Um, how often will you be coming to the trial? 45 00:04:27,875 --> 00:04:30,695 John and I are here representing the UK Families Group. 46 00:04:30,715 --> 00:04:33,434 We'll be here every day until the verdict is announced. 47 00:04:33,435 --> 00:04:35,155 I admire your dedication. 48 00:04:35,675 --> 00:04:37,555 How long do you think the trial will take? 49 00:04:37,875 --> 00:04:40,255 It's hard to say, ma'am. Uh... 50 00:04:40,395 --> 00:04:42,435 Six months... maybe more. 51 00:04:42,635 --> 00:04:45,594 But be in no doubt, no matter how long it takes, 52 00:04:45,595 --> 00:04:48,394 these men are guilty, and we will get a conviction. 53 00:04:49,035 --> 00:04:51,150 - Excuse me. - Ladies and gentlemen, 54 00:04:51,175 --> 00:04:53,475 the court will shortly be convening. 55 00:04:55,595 --> 00:04:58,954 The press gallery is to the left, ladies and gentlemen. 56 00:06:05,353 --> 00:06:06,715 Sick! 57 00:06:23,715 --> 00:06:27,070 Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi 58 00:06:27,095 --> 00:06:29,435 and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah, 59 00:06:29,775 --> 00:06:33,054 you are both charged with conspiring together 60 00:06:33,055 --> 00:06:35,654 to place onboard Pan Am Flight 103 61 00:06:35,655 --> 00:06:39,995 a suitcase containing an improvised explosive device. 62 00:06:40,255 --> 00:06:43,494 Having tagged the suitcase to travel unaccompanied 63 00:06:43,495 --> 00:06:46,515 from Malta airport to Frankfurt airport, 64 00:06:46,574 --> 00:06:49,214 via London Heathrow to New York, 65 00:06:49,415 --> 00:06:52,614 which exploded in mid-air over Lockerbie, Scotland, 66 00:06:52,855 --> 00:06:58,014 resulting in the murder of 259 passengers and crew, 67 00:06:58,195 --> 00:07:00,435 and 11 people on the ground. 68 00:07:01,635 --> 00:07:06,035 My Lord, the accused plead not guilty. 69 00:07:08,115 --> 00:07:11,555 The witness schedule reads as follows. Number one... 70 00:07:19,595 --> 00:07:22,155 - Well, enjoy your stay. - Thank you. 71 00:07:24,221 --> 00:07:25,515 Alright. 72 00:08:02,115 --> 00:08:04,034 Can I now take you back to the events 73 00:08:04,035 --> 00:08:06,715 of the 21st of December, 1988? 74 00:08:08,715 --> 00:08:12,115 I-I saw a wing, the whole of the wing. 75 00:08:13,035 --> 00:08:16,714 A silhouette against the skies coming towards us. 76 00:08:17,155 --> 00:08:20,315 I followed it all the way until it, uh... 77 00:08:20,595 --> 00:08:23,955 disappeared behind the buildings, and I saw the... 78 00:08:24,915 --> 00:08:27,275 ...explosion of flames rise up. 79 00:08:31,115 --> 00:08:33,955 It was like the world was on fire. 80 00:08:34,835 --> 00:08:39,595 Uh, thick smoke, fire everywhere. 81 00:08:40,795 --> 00:08:43,635 The overpowering smell of engine fuel. 82 00:08:44,515 --> 00:08:47,995 The sound of screaming and, uh... 83 00:08:48,955 --> 00:08:50,955 ...objects and... 84 00:08:52,395 --> 00:08:54,915 ...people falling out of the sky. 85 00:08:56,875 --> 00:08:59,810 We had, first of all, to look for any passengers 86 00:08:59,835 --> 00:09:03,175 that might be in need of medical attention. 87 00:09:05,755 --> 00:09:06,995 There were none. 88 00:09:07,915 --> 00:09:12,315 Bodies were recovered and... body parts. 89 00:09:13,595 --> 00:09:14,795 Many. 90 00:09:16,515 --> 00:09:18,635 If-If you come out my house, 91 00:09:19,555 --> 00:09:22,355 ...you go down some steps, and... 92 00:09:23,275 --> 00:09:26,955 ...just to the left of it, four or five feet away from the steps... 93 00:09:28,995 --> 00:09:30,955 ...there was a young lady lying there. 94 00:09:33,435 --> 00:09:34,915 There were bodies... 95 00:09:36,115 --> 00:09:37,315 ...everywhere... 96 00:09:38,315 --> 00:09:42,195 Men, women, children. 97 00:09:44,448 --> 00:09:46,315 There was one outside my house... 98 00:09:48,355 --> 00:09:49,395 ...a baby. 99 00:09:51,555 --> 00:09:52,835 There were more... 100 00:09:54,715 --> 00:09:56,195 ...on the pavement... 101 00:09:56,995 --> 00:09:58,635 on the golf course... 102 00:09:59,395 --> 00:10:00,995 ...in hedges. 103 00:10:02,675 --> 00:10:04,395 They were unrecognizable. 104 00:10:06,035 --> 00:10:08,795 The whole town was in shock for a long time. 105 00:10:11,635 --> 00:10:14,635 I know one young man done away with himself. 106 00:10:17,941 --> 00:10:20,435 It affected a lot of people... 107 00:10:21,035 --> 00:10:22,275 ...for a long time. 108 00:10:22,875 --> 00:10:26,035 People come from across the world to... 109 00:10:26,875 --> 00:10:30,595 ...visit the memorial, to remember their parent or... 110 00:10:31,275 --> 00:10:33,475 Uh... sister... 111 00:10:34,355 --> 00:10:37,075 ...or a child. 112 00:10:38,515 --> 00:10:41,875 And some of them ask to visit the place 113 00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:44,234 where their loved one, um... 114 00:10:44,235 --> 00:10:45,955 where the body was found. 115 00:10:46,995 --> 00:10:51,647 And so you find yourself taking someone you don't know... 116 00:10:52,115 --> 00:10:53,595 ...a stranger... 117 00:10:54,435 --> 00:10:56,195 ...to show them the place. 118 00:10:58,155 --> 00:11:00,315 But in a way, they're not strangers. 119 00:11:00,595 --> 00:11:02,235 It's our duty... 120 00:11:03,022 --> 00:11:04,822 ...to welcome them, to say... 121 00:11:05,835 --> 00:11:07,995 "..We know what it feels like." 122 00:11:53,581 --> 00:11:54,661 You alright? 123 00:11:58,395 --> 00:12:00,195 Hearing all that today... 124 00:12:00,261 --> 00:12:02,061 what she must have gone through. 125 00:12:02,782 --> 00:12:04,755 And I still don't know where she fell. 126 00:12:05,155 --> 00:12:06,595 Where she was found. 127 00:12:07,315 --> 00:12:09,075 I'm not sure what good it would do. 128 00:12:10,981 --> 00:12:13,221 Why didn't I come to the ice rink with you? 129 00:12:14,222 --> 00:12:15,982 How cowardly was I? 130 00:12:17,755 --> 00:12:20,755 Those poor people in Lockerbie. They never asked for any of this. 131 00:12:26,635 --> 00:12:27,915 Did they do it? 132 00:12:31,648 --> 00:12:33,328 I watched them so closely. 133 00:12:35,155 --> 00:12:36,755 Not a flicker of anything. 134 00:12:40,035 --> 00:12:41,635 Yes, I think they did. 135 00:12:43,355 --> 00:12:44,955 Everything points to them. 136 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:05,740 Thank you. 137 00:13:07,540 --> 00:13:09,220 Give my love to Catherine and William. 138 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:12,660 Why don't you do it yourself, Jim? Just pick up the phone. 139 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:21,860 - Look after yourself. - You, too. 140 00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:45,259 The press centre's like a desert. 141 00:14:45,540 --> 00:14:47,199 Thought I'd get closer to the action. 142 00:14:51,970 --> 00:14:53,820 He's looking mighty confident. 143 00:14:56,370 --> 00:14:59,095 When a bomb explodes, it generates 144 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,420 intense heat and sends out tiny shards... 145 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,879 ...from whichever housing it is lodged in. 146 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,975 That is what we were initially searching for. 147 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,639 Parts of the explosive device lodged in charred and damaged clothing 148 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,780 that would have been near or around the bomb. 149 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:17,199 After several months examining debris, 150 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,599 I found a blast-damaged electronic fragment 151 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,000 lodged inside the charred remains of a shirt. 152 00:15:26,253 --> 00:15:28,719 My Lords, the fragment is on the evidence table 153 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,799 but for the purposes of clarity, 154 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,260 we will now show an enlarged image of it. 155 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:40,399 Dr Hayes, you identified this fragment as being significant. 156 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,839 I understood it to be significant. Yes. 157 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,479 But I had left RARDE before it was identified. 158 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,279 I was succeeded by my colleague, Allen Feraday 159 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,679 with whom I published the final forensic report. 160 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,599 This fragment seemed to be the only part 161 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,319 of the circuit board from the timer 162 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,839 which detonated the bomb aboard Flight 103. 163 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,380 Were you able to identify what kind of timer it was from? 164 00:16:05,780 --> 00:16:07,719 Not initially. No. 165 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,636 It was a bit of a needle in a haystack. 166 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,719 There are thousands of companies worldwide 167 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,380 which manufacture circuit boards. 168 00:16:14,740 --> 00:16:18,759 But finally, a year later, another forensic colleague 169 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,279 in the United States, Thomas Thurman of the FBI, 170 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,300 found a match. 171 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:28,499 Can you tell the court how exactly the circuit board was identified? 172 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:32,295 The fragment materials and tracking pattern 173 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,695 were extensively compared with circuit boards within timers, 174 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,879 which the FBI had recovered a few years previously, 175 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:45,039 of a type called MST-13, which was designed and manufactured 176 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,540 by a Swiss company called MEBO, based in Zurich. 177 00:16:50,220 --> 00:16:52,660 And from whom were those timers seized? 178 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,160 Agents of the JSO. 179 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,800 The Libyan Intelligence agency. 180 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,599 And you were entirely satisfied 181 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,639 they were the exact same model of circuit board? 182 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,519 It was conclusively established that the tracks 183 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,780 present on the fragment are of copper, 184 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,420 covered by a layer of pure tin. 185 00:17:13,940 --> 00:17:17,599 Similar in all respects to the sample boards 186 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,340 obtained from MEBO. 187 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,199 It was truly amazing what the police did, Jane, 188 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,759 to find something so critical 189 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,700 among millions and millions of pieces of debris. 190 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,980 - That's amazing. - It's incredible. 191 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,359 That fragment of circuit board is the first crucial link to Libya. 192 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:39,359 The prosecution will just have to prove 193 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:43,900 the fragment came from the same batch of timers sold to Libya. 194 00:17:44,660 --> 00:17:46,679 It's all about joining the dots. 195 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,519 The prosecution have to make a connection. 196 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,519 Jim... 197 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,660 Jim... 198 00:18:00,019 --> 00:18:01,660 ...and prove them. 199 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,880 Oh, yes, I see. 200 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,680 How are you? 201 00:18:08,986 --> 00:18:10,759 Are the kids OK at uni? 202 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,400 Yeah. No, I'm fine. Everyone's fine. Um... 203 00:18:14,693 --> 00:18:17,932 So how's... Um, what's next? 204 00:18:18,096 --> 00:18:21,800 Star witness number one, Edwin Bollier. 205 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,000 He's basically an arms dealer. 206 00:18:24,267 --> 00:18:26,919 The prosecution need to get it on record 207 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,220 that the timers were supplied by his company. 208 00:18:31,380 --> 00:18:34,039 I am the co-owner of MEBO, 209 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,480 a company which manufactures and sells 210 00:18:36,505 --> 00:18:39,473 electronic and electrical components. 211 00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:44,999 Does that include timers such as the MST-13 that we see here? 212 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,640 Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. 213 00:18:47,133 --> 00:18:50,016 Did your company manufacture and sell timers 214 00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:53,020 such as these to the Libyan Intelligence agency? 215 00:18:57,020 --> 00:18:59,180 I am a legitimate businessman. 216 00:18:59,820 --> 00:19:02,640 What I do is perfectly legal. 217 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,900 If you could just stick to answering the question, Mr Bollier. 218 00:19:09,260 --> 00:19:13,839 Yes, we supplied Libya with 20 of these timers. 219 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,100 Libya are one of our best customers. 220 00:19:17,020 --> 00:19:22,100 Mr Bollier, do you recognise either of the two men sitting in dock? 221 00:19:22,540 --> 00:19:27,279 I do not know the man on the right, but the man on the left, 222 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,519 I know he was a partner in ABH, 223 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,079 which is a Libyan company based in Zurich. 224 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,140 I see. 225 00:19:36,460 --> 00:19:38,639 And is it true Mr Megrahi's company 226 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,959 was based in the same building as your company? 227 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,799 Yeah. They rented office space from us. 228 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,640 We were on the same floor. 229 00:19:47,003 --> 00:19:50,239 Mr Bollier, did Mr Megrahi personally order 230 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,740 the MST-13 timers from you? 231 00:20:07,097 --> 00:20:11,039 No. My dealings were with friends of Megrahi. 232 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,159 But Megrahi had a... 233 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,520 had a high position, I'm sure of it. 234 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,599 He was always moving, you know. 235 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,999 Zurich, Tripoli, Malta. 236 00:20:22,260 --> 00:20:24,300 He was well-connected. 237 00:20:25,380 --> 00:20:31,000 Can we bring up the timer fragment image PT35-B again, please? 238 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,120 Mr Bollier? 239 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,199 Mr Bollier. Could the Crown counsel 240 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,655 - have your full attention? - What is this? 241 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,839 This is the fragment found at the Lockerbie crash. 242 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,479 No, this is not the same fragment. 243 00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:53,959 Mr Bollier, it was confirmed by two forensic scientists. 244 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,519 - One from RARDE, one from the FBI. - No, it looks similar, 245 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,319 but this is not the same fragment. 246 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,359 My company did not sell this, I can assure you. 247 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:04,340 So, maybe it's a counterfeit? 248 00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:06,420 How can it be a counterfeit? 249 00:21:06,820 --> 00:21:09,240 It's been in police custody since it was discovered. 250 00:21:09,419 --> 00:21:12,980 May I examine the actual physical fragment? 251 00:21:13,860 --> 00:21:14,900 Hm? 252 00:21:23,886 --> 00:21:24,980 There. 253 00:21:35,780 --> 00:21:37,140 Well, Mr Bollier? 254 00:21:48,580 --> 00:21:49,780 I am right. 255 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:53,860 This is not the same fragment that I was shown in Scotland. 256 00:21:54,660 --> 00:21:57,500 - What's he doing? - He's trying to distance himself. 257 00:21:57,967 --> 00:22:00,127 - Of course he is. - Clearly panicking. 258 00:22:00,513 --> 00:22:02,272 Probably afraid he'll get sued. 259 00:22:02,820 --> 00:22:05,899 All he's bothered about is his company's reputation 260 00:22:05,900 --> 00:22:07,619 and saving his own skin. 261 00:22:07,620 --> 00:22:12,440 ...in 1999, as being made by your company. 262 00:22:16,603 --> 00:22:18,203 Bearing in mind... 263 00:22:18,883 --> 00:22:21,162 that scientific tests were made, 264 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:24,720 can you confirm that this fragment of circuit board 265 00:22:24,940 --> 00:22:29,099 was part of a batch of 20 timers bought by the Libyans? 266 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:33,460 A batch of timers you delivered to Libyan Intelligence personally. 267 00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:41,340 I remind you, you're under oath. 268 00:22:56,620 --> 00:22:57,620 Yes. 269 00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:00,700 You travelled to Tripoli with them in your possession? 270 00:23:01,220 --> 00:23:02,999 - Yes. - You took them to the headquarters 271 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,439 - of Libyan Intelligence in Tripoli? - Yes. 272 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,559 And whilst you were there, you witnessed 273 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,719 trials involving some of those timers. 274 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,540 Correct, Mr Bollier? 275 00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:15,940 Yes. 276 00:23:17,140 --> 00:23:19,980 Hm. Thank you, Mr Bollier. 277 00:23:37,020 --> 00:23:39,859 Big day tomorrow. Star witness number two. 278 00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:41,020 Yep. 279 00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:45,179 Tony Gauci. Owns a clothes shop. 280 00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:48,080 Mary's House. Sliema, Malta. 281 00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:52,439 The indictment states that the clothes wrapped around the bomb 282 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,500 which brought down Flight 103 were bought from his shop. 283 00:23:58,660 --> 00:24:01,399 And in the collar of the shirt, the forensics guy, 284 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,460 Hayes, found this. 285 00:24:07,126 --> 00:24:08,580 When they interviewed him, 286 00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:12,900 Gauci remembered the Libyan customer he'd sold the clothes to. 287 00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:17,039 The prosecution need Tony Gauci to link 288 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,360 one of the suspects to the bomb. 289 00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:22,340 Mr Gauci... 290 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:25,259 at the beginning of September, 1989, 291 00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:28,439 did Scottish police visit your shop in Sliema, Malta? 292 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,980 Yes. Detective Harry Bell from Scotland came to see me. 293 00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:35,119 And were you asked about a particular sale of clothing 294 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:36,939 you had made in December, 1988? 295 00:24:36,940 --> 00:24:39,620 Yes, I told them about a man... 296 00:24:40,060 --> 00:24:42,840 A customer who had bought clothes from my shop. 297 00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:44,719 And were you able to remember when 298 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,900 that particular sale had taken place? 299 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:48,180 Uh... 300 00:24:48,940 --> 00:24:51,300 It was slightly before Christmas. 301 00:24:51,540 --> 00:24:52,940 It was raining. 302 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:58,335 I do not remember the exact date. It was so long ago. 303 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:00,100 Of course, I understand. 304 00:25:00,460 --> 00:25:03,059 Now, this man to whom you sold the clothing... 305 00:25:03,060 --> 00:25:05,555 did you recognise his nationality? 306 00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:06,600 Oh. 307 00:25:06,859 --> 00:25:08,858 To me, he was a Libyan. 308 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:14,059 Are you familiar from experience in your shop and in Malta with Libyans? 309 00:25:14,060 --> 00:25:15,820 Oh. 310 00:25:16,260 --> 00:25:20,340 Many Libyan men fly to Malta for business and for pleasure. 311 00:25:21,060 --> 00:25:25,060 They are able to do things in Malta that are forbidden in Libya. 312 00:25:25,780 --> 00:25:29,179 Mr Gauci, where do you source these shirts from? 313 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:31,980 Malta. Only Malta. 314 00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:36,580 I have dealt with Slalom, the manufacturer, for many years. 315 00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:39,959 Now, Mr Gauci, I want you to take a moment to look around 316 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,039 the courtroom and tell me if you see the man 317 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,620 who bought the clothes from you in December, 1988. 318 00:26:10,603 --> 00:26:13,642 He is the man... on this side. 319 00:26:13,860 --> 00:26:15,922 Which man are you pointing at? 320 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:19,277 Uh, not that one. The one on the left. 321 00:26:19,803 --> 00:26:22,482 That is the man who resembles the man who came to my shop. 322 00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:24,202 You're certain about this? 323 00:26:24,203 --> 00:26:27,642 This man here on the left is the man you identified 324 00:26:27,643 --> 00:26:29,120 for Detective Harry Bell? 325 00:26:29,121 --> 00:26:33,420 Yes, I identified this man from photographs and in identity parades. 326 00:26:34,083 --> 00:26:35,460 And I remember, 327 00:26:35,763 --> 00:26:38,283 it did not seem important to him what he was buying. 328 00:26:38,308 --> 00:26:41,900 He said to me, "None of these clothes are for me." 329 00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:46,500 Thank you, Mr Gauci. 330 00:26:52,337 --> 00:26:54,599 Four months in, and you haven't missed a day. 331 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,420 You're as good as your word, Jim. 332 00:27:00,980 --> 00:27:02,180 You don't think it's odd? 333 00:27:02,913 --> 00:27:06,340 The DOJ is not part of the trial, yet they're here every single day. 334 00:27:06,780 --> 00:27:08,260 They have every right. 335 00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:10,420 They dropped the indictment. 336 00:27:11,620 --> 00:27:13,580 There are Libyan officials here, too. 337 00:27:14,060 --> 00:27:17,060 A bit too pally with the prosecution, if you ask me. 338 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:23,399 Mr Gauci, I noticed during the Crown's questioning, 339 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,839 Mr Campbell omitted to mention exactly how many interviews 340 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,540 you conducted with Detective Harry Bell and the Scottish police. 341 00:27:32,060 --> 00:27:33,220 Can you remember? 342 00:27:33,580 --> 00:27:36,279 Uh... no, I cannot. 343 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,439 Eighteen interviews 344 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,280 - and 19 statements, Mr Gauci. - Eighteen? 345 00:27:42,846 --> 00:27:45,980 You gave 19 sworn statements. 346 00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:50,799 In truth, Mr Gauci, you've had considerable difficulty 347 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,879 identifying Mr Megrahi before, haven't you? 348 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,700 - No, I... - In the statement I have here... 349 00:27:56,286 --> 00:27:59,440 ...you described the clothes purchaser as, I quote... 350 00:28:00,273 --> 00:28:03,140 "..Around 50, and six feet tall." 351 00:28:03,820 --> 00:28:07,460 Of course, Mr Megrahi is 48. 352 00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:11,679 Which means that in December, 1988, 353 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,760 when you say you sold him the clothes, he was... 354 00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:15,820 36 years old. 355 00:28:16,860 --> 00:28:20,039 And here you list the items 356 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,380 you claim the clothes purchaser bought from you. 357 00:28:22,780 --> 00:28:27,740 Trousers, pullover, jacket, babygro... 358 00:28:29,260 --> 00:28:30,440 ...but no shirt. 359 00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:35,220 No mention of a shirt, Slalom or otherwise. 360 00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:41,079 In fact, no mention of any shirt until statement number 17. 361 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,559 What are we to make of that? 362 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,920 Did the clothes purchaser buy a shirt from you or not? 363 00:28:46,497 --> 00:28:48,359 It was a long time ago to remember. 364 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,759 Of course. Mr Bell was interviewing you a whole two years 365 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,485 after the tragedy happened. Anyone would have difficulty 366 00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:58,309 remembering anything after that long, would they not? 367 00:28:58,310 --> 00:29:00,420 Yes, that is it. Exactly. 368 00:29:13,857 --> 00:29:15,140 Thank you, my Lord. 369 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:24,540 'The man was nervous. 370 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:26,799 And clearly muddled. 371 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,440 Yet there he was, billed as a star witness. Christ!' 372 00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:32,945 Eighteen interviews, 19 statements. 373 00:29:32,985 --> 00:29:35,852 Did the police just keep going back to him until they got the story they wanted? 374 00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:37,518 I don't know what the hell the prosecution were doing. 375 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:39,760 Did they just hope the defence wouldn't bring all that up? 376 00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:41,740 It just smacks of incompetence. 377 00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:46,659 Yeah. Well, I did a bit more digging when I went back to my hotel room. 378 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,379 It was not only Megrahi 379 00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:51,399 that Gauci identified to Detective Bell 380 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,855 as the man that he sold the clothes to. 381 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,499 So, a year and a half before he identified Megrahi... 382 00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:01,860 ..Gauci mentioned a Mr Mohammed Abu Talb, 383 00:30:02,580 --> 00:30:05,799 ...a convicted Palestinian terrorist and one of the Scottish police's 384 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,620 initial suspects for the bombing. 385 00:30:08,260 --> 00:30:10,955 Now, is there an Iranian connection? 386 00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:14,359 A Syrian connection? A Palestinian connection? 387 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,700 Has there always been? 388 00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:19,780 You need to get a picture of Talb up there, by the way. 389 00:30:20,633 --> 00:30:22,600 Look, I'm just asking the question, Jim... 390 00:30:22,625 --> 00:30:24,500 because suddenly there's a whole lot more of them. 391 00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:31,259 Megrahi, he's linked to Bollier, and the MEBO timer. 392 00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:33,499 Timers are sold to Libya by MEBO. 393 00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:35,660 Megrahi's probably JSO. 394 00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:39,695 Megrahi was Head of Airline Security for Libyan Arab Airlines. 395 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,900 Fhimah their station manager on Malta. 396 00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:46,359 Megrahi travelled to Malta, using a passport under a false name 397 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,599 issued to him by the Libyan government. 398 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,820 And then he lied about ever having been there. 399 00:30:52,620 --> 00:30:55,119 Fhimah wrote in his diary to procure Air Malta tags 400 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,260 for Megrahi on December 15th. 401 00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:02,420 There's still a hell of a lot stacked against them. 402 00:31:22,384 --> 00:31:24,118 You've reached the Swire household. 403 00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:25,839 We're not home to take your call at the moment. 404 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,879 Please leave a message after the beep and we'll get back to you. 405 00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:33,220 'Hello, Jane, it's me. 406 00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:35,260 I suppose you must be out somewhere. 407 00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:38,420 We are four months into the trial now, and... 408 00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:40,439 and things have... 409 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,479 Well, things could be going better.' 410 00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:54,859 Mrs Walker, I'm Jane... 411 00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:56,220 I know who you are. 412 00:32:58,460 --> 00:33:00,100 Then you'll know why I've come. 413 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:09,580 Here. 414 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:22,100 This is Beechgrove. 415 00:33:22,965 --> 00:33:24,685 This is where they found Flora. 416 00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:28,420 I'll let you... 417 00:34:43,460 --> 00:34:47,140 I love you so much. I love you so much. 418 00:34:49,060 --> 00:34:51,980 I love you. I love you, Flora. 419 00:34:52,980 --> 00:34:55,100 I love you so much. 420 00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:07,460 Star witness number three. The super grass. 421 00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:13,580 My Lords, every precaution must be taken to ensure Mr Giaka's safety. 422 00:37:13,780 --> 00:37:16,419 Therefore, the recording of his voice will be distorted, 423 00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:17,999 so as to avoid recognition 424 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,879 and the operator of the closed circuit television cameras 425 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,319 has been directed not to film at any time 426 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,100 whilst he is giving evidence. 427 00:37:25,820 --> 00:37:29,019 I became a CIA informant, 428 00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:32,060 because I no longer wanted to work for the Libyan Intelligence. 429 00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:35,180 Because of their involvement in terrorism. 430 00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:39,660 I wanted to get out of Libya and live a normal life. 431 00:37:40,340 --> 00:37:42,735 Mr Giaka, in March 1986, 432 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,139 you were an employee of Libyan Arab Airlines at Malta airport, 433 00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:51,120 where you worked under Mr Megrahi and Mr Fhimah. Yes? 434 00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:54,659 Yes. Megrahi was the head of security for LAA, 435 00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:56,579 and Fhimah was the station manager. 436 00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:58,879 Now, you told your CIA handler 437 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,135 that you wrote an intelligence report for the JSO, 438 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,219 the Libyan Intelligence service, around that time. 439 00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:06,540 Yes, I did. 440 00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:09,499 What was this intelligence report about? 441 00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:12,899 Well, it outlined in detail how a person could place 442 00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:15,940 an unaccompanied bag onboard an airline flight. 443 00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:22,500 That was two to three months after the US attack on Tripoli in 1986. 444 00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:28,940 Many civilians and soldiers were killed, and the JSO were furious. 445 00:38:29,087 --> 00:38:32,740 They declared that Libya would have revenge. 446 00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:35,460 And what did your report conclude? 447 00:38:36,020 --> 00:38:39,059 It concluded that, yes, it could be easily done. 448 00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:41,540 To whom did you submit this report? 449 00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:47,220 To the Head of Airline Security, Abdelbaset Megrahi. 450 00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:52,055 You shared an office with Mr Fhimah at Malta airport. 451 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,899 - Is that correct? - Yes. I did. 452 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:58,019 Could you tell the court what Mr Fhimah showed you 453 00:38:58,020 --> 00:39:01,980 was hidden inside his desk in March 1986? 454 00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:08,540 Ten kilos of TNT, brought to the airport office by Mr Megrahi. 455 00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:10,799 And LAA rush tags. 456 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,480 Could you explain to the court what rush tags are? 457 00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:17,139 Certainly. Rush tags are used to allow 458 00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:19,339 baggages onto planes unaccompanied. 459 00:39:19,780 --> 00:39:20,860 I see. 460 00:39:20,899 --> 00:39:26,083 Now, if we could move forward to the evening of December 20th, 1988, 461 00:39:26,220 --> 00:39:28,580 the night before the crash. 462 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:31,779 I saw Megrahi with Fhimah 463 00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:34,540 in the baggage arrival area at Malta Airport. 464 00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:37,719 And where did they take this suitcase? 465 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:39,779 - Towards Customs. - And was the suitcase 466 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:42,079 - opened for inspection? - No, it was not. 467 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,120 So they just walked through? 468 00:39:44,220 --> 00:39:47,000 - Yes. - Thank you, Mr Giaka. 469 00:39:49,432 --> 00:39:53,319 The JSO are a merciless organization. 470 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,780 - Would you agree? - Oh, yes. 471 00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:59,640 Are you in fear of your life because of them, Mr Giaka? 472 00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:01,159 Yes, I am. 473 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,159 Little wonder then you wanted to get out of Libya 474 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,260 to live a normal life elsewhere. 475 00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:10,220 In fact, you wanted to live a normal life in America, did you not? 476 00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:12,939 - Yes. - You asked the CIA several times 477 00:40:12,940 --> 00:40:14,720 for money to help you emigrate. 478 00:40:16,860 --> 00:40:18,220 Yes, I did. 479 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:20,180 What was their answer? 480 00:40:24,910 --> 00:40:26,580 They said no. 481 00:40:27,789 --> 00:40:31,700 But you were a valued informant. Did you demand an explanation why? 482 00:40:32,460 --> 00:40:37,099 Well, let me read to you what your CIA case officer wrote about you. 483 00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,780 It might explain their heartless decision. 484 00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:43,219 "Giaka will be advised in no uncertain terms 485 00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:45,819 on the 4th of September that we will not provide 486 00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:48,539 any additional financial assistance to him. 487 00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:51,739 We will only continue his $1,000 per month salary 488 00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:54,159 through to the end of 1989. 489 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,419 If Giaka is not able to demonstrate 490 00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:59,939 sustained and defined access to information of intelligence value 491 00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:03,960 by January of 1990, the CIA will cease 492 00:41:04,093 --> 00:41:07,300 all salary and financial support." 493 00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:12,819 It seems the standard of information that you were giving them 494 00:41:12,820 --> 00:41:14,779 just was not good enough. 495 00:41:14,780 --> 00:41:17,895 You had to do better, otherwise you were a waste of money. 496 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,139 I'm so sorry. Is something amusing you, Mr Giaka? 497 00:41:20,140 --> 00:41:21,540 You seem to be smiling. 498 00:41:23,580 --> 00:41:25,519 Is it forbidden to smile? 499 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,459 That is entirely up to you. 500 00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:29,859 But I do notice you keep looking to the back row 501 00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:32,839 of the prosecution benches to the two American gentlemen there. 502 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,100 Why is that? 503 00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:38,660 There's a man sitting there wearing spectacles. Do you know hm? 504 00:41:40,740 --> 00:41:42,100 What the hell is going on? 505 00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:50,215 Brian Murtagh. 506 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,199 So, whose evidence have we been hearing today? 507 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,880 Yours or your friend's, Brian Murtagh? 508 00:41:56,020 --> 00:41:57,460 Holy shit. 509 00:41:57,996 --> 00:42:00,335 Why is the CIA informant on first name terms 510 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,040 with the Department of Justice? 511 00:42:02,218 --> 00:42:04,058 Who's pulling Giaka's strings here? 512 00:42:04,458 --> 00:42:06,879 - Fucked up. - See, I put it to you, Mr Giaka, 513 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,799 that all this security protection 514 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,199 is a charade to deceive us into thinking that you are genuine. 515 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,759 Those screens around you obscure the truth. 516 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,599 - My Lords, Mr Keen is going too far. - You didn't come forward 517 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,159 with this evidence after Flight 103 came down, did you? 518 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,199 No. You came forward years later, 519 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,999 after your friends at the CIA told you to give them something bigger. 520 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,319 TNT, rush tags, Fhimah and Megrahi taking 521 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,599 a Samsonite suitcase through security. 522 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,839 Every single word you have said is made up. 523 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,319 You are, in the CIA's own words, a shirker and a fantasist 524 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,280 who is just not worth investing in. 525 00:42:41,706 --> 00:42:43,140 You're a fake and a liar. 526 00:42:45,422 --> 00:42:47,500 Thank you, my Lord. 527 00:43:15,580 --> 00:43:17,539 It was always going to be a risk. 528 00:43:17,540 --> 00:43:18,810 A risk? 529 00:43:19,620 --> 00:43:22,419 This is a court of law. Giaka was paid for his evidence. 530 00:43:22,420 --> 00:43:24,059 Let's let the judges decide. 531 00:43:24,060 --> 00:43:26,579 He lied under oath. This will be declared a mistrial. 532 00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:29,380 - No, it won't. - It damn well should be. 533 00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:33,928 - What do you want from this, Jim? - Justice. 534 00:43:33,953 --> 00:43:35,659 We all want justice. Everybody wants justice. 535 00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:37,429 How are you gonna get that without a fair trial? 536 00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:40,390 I don't call murdering 270 innocent people fair. Do you? 537 00:43:40,427 --> 00:43:42,869 Doesn't matter how you get a conviction as long as you get one. Is that it? 538 00:43:42,905 --> 00:43:45,405 Those two men may be small cogs in a big machine, 539 00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:47,565 but I am telling you, they were part of this. 540 00:43:47,590 --> 00:43:49,770 Because our governments decided they were? 541 00:43:52,887 --> 00:43:54,650 This trial only happens once. 542 00:43:55,563 --> 00:43:57,730 We got one shot to take down these Libyans. 543 00:43:59,170 --> 00:44:01,290 Do you want to come away from this with nothing? 544 00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:12,389 There's no doubt that the clothes in the suitcase 545 00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:14,349 containing the bomb were bought at this shop 546 00:44:14,350 --> 00:44:15,989 called Mary's House, here in Malta. 547 00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:17,869 The question is, who bought them? 548 00:44:17,870 --> 00:44:22,229 Mr Gauci won't talk to reporters, but his identification of al-Megrahi 549 00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:24,410 is anything but convincing. 550 00:44:25,210 --> 00:44:28,189 The prosecution case has taken a further blow 551 00:44:28,190 --> 00:44:31,669 after the eyewitness testimony of a former intelligence agent, 552 00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:34,869 who was previously employed by Libyan Arab Airlines, 553 00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:36,650 here at Malta airport. 554 00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:40,445 Questions are now being asked as to what he stands to gain 555 00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:43,509 by testifying, with claims being circulated 556 00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:46,309 that he could receive up to $4 million. 557 00:44:46,310 --> 00:44:49,269 The amount of the reward put up by the American government 558 00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:53,350 for evidence which leads to a conviction of Megrahi and Fhimah. 559 00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:59,189 ..at the moment. Please leave a message after the beep 560 00:44:59,190 --> 00:45:01,490 and we'll get back to you. 561 00:45:01,810 --> 00:45:03,490 Hello, it's me. 562 00:45:05,169 --> 00:45:07,309 I'm just calling to see how you all are. 563 00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:09,770 And, um... 564 00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:14,890 ...to let you know how things are here. 565 00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:06,650 First up today, witness for the prosecution. 566 00:46:08,090 --> 00:46:11,490 John Bedford, a baggage handler from Heathrow. 567 00:46:12,250 --> 00:46:14,245 The prosecution believe that Bedford 568 00:46:14,270 --> 00:46:16,330 loaded the unaccompanied suitcase from Malta... 569 00:46:17,050 --> 00:46:18,650 ...containing the bomb. 570 00:46:21,010 --> 00:46:23,049 Were you on duty on the afternoon of 571 00:46:23,050 --> 00:46:25,729 the 21st of December, 1988, Mr Bedford? 572 00:46:25,730 --> 00:46:28,369 - Yes, sir. - And do you remember 573 00:46:28,370 --> 00:46:31,969 if any luggage arrived that was destined for Flight 103? 574 00:46:31,970 --> 00:46:35,530 Yes. Yeah, it did. But not till later at the end of my shift. 575 00:46:35,890 --> 00:46:38,169 I remember, cos I had my tea break first. 576 00:46:38,410 --> 00:46:42,209 And how long were you away from the area? 577 00:46:42,210 --> 00:46:43,889 No more than half an hour. 578 00:46:44,210 --> 00:46:46,525 And then you returned to resume work? 579 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:48,450 Yeah. Yeah. And that's when I saw them. 580 00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:54,310 Them? What do you mean, Mr Bedford? 581 00:46:55,953 --> 00:46:58,669 There was two new suitcases 582 00:46:58,670 --> 00:47:01,749 lying in the container when I... when I got back from my tea break. 583 00:47:02,010 --> 00:47:03,730 I didn't put them there. 584 00:47:05,530 --> 00:47:07,349 Two other suitcases? 585 00:47:07,350 --> 00:47:08,690 I don't understand. 586 00:47:08,906 --> 00:47:11,429 Did the prosecution not check this out before? 587 00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:15,309 Did you see who put those two other suitcases into the container? 588 00:47:15,310 --> 00:47:16,830 No. No, I didn't. 589 00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:24,869 Mr Bedford, is it conceivable 590 00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:27,309 that persons other than you or your colleagues 591 00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:29,530 could have put those suitcases into that container? 592 00:47:29,810 --> 00:47:32,149 Yeah. I mean, anyone that works at the airport. 593 00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:34,869 Anyone? You are saying that anyone 594 00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:36,549 who was airside could have done that? 595 00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:39,229 - Yeah. - For the avoidance of doubt, 596 00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:43,830 these cases appeared before the Malta-Frankfurt flight arrived. 597 00:47:45,163 --> 00:47:46,450 Yes, sir. 598 00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:52,656 Can you describe these suitcases to the court? 599 00:47:52,681 --> 00:47:53,650 Yeah. 600 00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:58,190 One was a brown colour. The other one, it was darker. 601 00:47:59,150 --> 00:48:03,730 They were hard-shelled suitcases, same type that Samsonite make. 602 00:48:07,590 --> 00:48:09,710 That's the same as the Malta suitcase. 603 00:48:14,493 --> 00:48:17,230 Bedford said his tea break lasted half an hour. 604 00:48:19,815 --> 00:48:22,290 Which means there was no one around that container. 605 00:48:22,830 --> 00:48:24,210 No security guards. 606 00:48:30,707 --> 00:48:32,050 For all that time. 607 00:48:33,210 --> 00:48:35,050 How did those cases get in there? 608 00:48:35,350 --> 00:48:36,690 Who put them there? 609 00:48:38,370 --> 00:48:40,869 Did Bedford maybe see the actual suitcase? 610 00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:43,530 He can't have done. The Frankfurt flight hadn't arrived yet. 611 00:48:49,053 --> 00:48:52,130 Unless there was no bomb suitcase on that Frankfurt flight. 612 00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:55,730 Well, that would destroy the whole case. 613 00:48:57,010 --> 00:48:58,770 The entire basis of the trial. 614 00:49:34,566 --> 00:49:35,826 After you. 615 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,459 Why are the Crown bringing in a German explosives expert? 616 00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:42,899 I thought that was all done with? 617 00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:45,819 So they can discredit the defence's theory. 618 00:49:45,820 --> 00:49:47,499 Palestinian terrorists. 619 00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:49,960 The Crown are running scared. They've got to shut it down. 620 00:49:52,113 --> 00:49:53,360 Mr Gobel... 621 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,819 In October 1988, you examined some explosive devices 622 00:49:57,820 --> 00:49:59,339 that had been seized in a raid 623 00:49:59,340 --> 00:50:02,819 on the Palestinian terrorist organization PFLP-GC. 624 00:50:02,820 --> 00:50:05,139 - Is that correct? - Yes, that is correct. 625 00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:07,939 And it has been claimed in various corners 626 00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:12,500 that, in fact, one of those devices may have brought down Flight 103. 627 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,459 Yes, this was an early theory with the German police, 628 00:50:15,460 --> 00:50:17,859 but we came to believe that Flight 103 629 00:50:17,860 --> 00:50:21,620 could not have been brought down by a PFLP-GC device. 630 00:50:21,953 --> 00:50:23,460 Can you tell us why? 631 00:50:23,620 --> 00:50:27,600 The PFLP-GC use air pressure sensitive equipment. 632 00:50:27,860 --> 00:50:30,539 A combination of a barometric switch... 633 00:50:30,540 --> 00:50:34,899 In layman's terms, if you could, Mr Gobel. 634 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,459 Yeah. The PFLP-GC bombs were made up of three components: 635 00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:42,020 a switch, a timer, and a detonator. 636 00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:45,539 The switch's only job is to turn the timer on. 637 00:50:45,540 --> 00:50:48,339 And what triggers this is a fall in air pressure 638 00:50:48,340 --> 00:50:50,240 as a plane gains altitude. 639 00:50:50,540 --> 00:50:54,760 It takes about seven minutes to detect this change. 640 00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,619 The PFLP-GC at this time were known to use ice cube timers, 641 00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:04,960 so called because they resembled ice cubes. 642 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,219 Yeah. Once the switch turns them on, 643 00:51:10,220 --> 00:51:13,539 the timer has an approximate run time of 30 minutes, 644 00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:16,179 after which it triggers the detonator, 645 00:51:16,180 --> 00:51:19,240 which then causes the Semtex within the device to explode. 646 00:51:19,313 --> 00:51:25,019 If a PFLP-GC device had been used to destroy Flight 103, 647 00:51:25,020 --> 00:51:28,779 it would have exploded between 35 and 45 minutes 648 00:51:28,780 --> 00:51:30,440 into its first flight. 649 00:51:31,887 --> 00:51:35,941 Flight 103 could only have been brought down by this type of device 650 00:51:36,020 --> 00:51:39,980 if it had been primed or put on board at Heathrow. 651 00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:52,120 The plane left Heathrow at 18:25 and it exploded at 19:03. 652 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,980 It did explode 38 minutes into the flight. 653 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,394 It must have been put onto the plane at Heathrow. 654 00:51:57,419 --> 00:51:59,200 One of Bedford's suitcases? 655 00:52:05,033 --> 00:52:06,819 Why is no one challenging this? 656 00:52:06,820 --> 00:52:08,059 It's too much of a coincidence. 657 00:52:08,060 --> 00:52:10,000 Surely it was an ice cube timer. 658 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:18,699 T-13 would be much more accurate, because... 659 00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:21,400 The plane exploded after... 660 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,579 What on earth is going on? 661 00:52:26,580 --> 00:52:28,499 It must have been an ice cube timer. 662 00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:30,100 What about Bedford's suitcases? 663 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,160 Jim, Jim, sit down. 664 00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:41,440 Come on. 665 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,099 Will the court please disregard 666 00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,379 this unfortunate interruption? 667 00:52:47,380 --> 00:52:49,659 - Come back. - Please continue. 668 00:52:49,660 --> 00:52:51,280 Thank you, my Lord. 669 00:52:51,672 --> 00:52:52,880 You're OK. 670 00:53:44,326 --> 00:53:46,680 Thomas Thurman, FBI forensic scientist... 671 00:53:49,841 --> 00:53:52,420 Similar in all respects. I clearly remember Murtagh telling us 672 00:53:52,421 --> 00:53:54,499 we will get a conviction. 673 00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:56,739 Abu Talb now in prison in Sweden, for a bombing attempt. 674 00:53:56,740 --> 00:54:00,299 Found in the cover. Affiliated to the PFLP-GC, who wanted revenge. 675 00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:03,939 The bomb would've exploded on the first flight. Malta, Frankfurt, Heathrow. 676 00:54:03,940 --> 00:54:06,299 I keep coming back to Heathrow. Two new suitcases. 677 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:08,540 Was it put on board the plane at Heathrow? 678 00:54:34,952 --> 00:54:37,100 What happened to meeting me at the airport? 679 00:54:37,125 --> 00:54:38,373 Jane... 680 00:54:39,566 --> 00:54:41,366 What's wrong? 681 00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:43,740 Where do I start? 682 00:54:50,012 --> 00:54:52,779 They didn't do it. They didn't put that bomb on the plane. 683 00:54:52,780 --> 00:54:54,619 Of course they did. What are you talking about? 684 00:54:54,620 --> 00:54:56,819 We've gone through the whole case over and over. 685 00:54:56,820 --> 00:54:58,960 We've torn it apart, put it back together. 686 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,840 Worked it all out. 687 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,680 They've been set up. 688 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,440 They've been framed. 689 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,960 The whole case against them is a fiction. It's a lie. 690 00:55:17,950 --> 00:55:19,360 They're innocent. 54417

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