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See you later. 12 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:23,877 HEAVY BREATHING 13 00:03:26,933 --> 00:03:29,890 Appeal Case Number 19035. 14 00:03:29,930 --> 00:03:33,367 Tony Greene versus the Crown Prosecution Service. 15 00:03:33,407 --> 00:03:38,320 Counsel for the Appellant, please state your case to the court. 16 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,033 My Lords, on October the 16th 1980, 17 00:03:42,073 --> 00:03:46,828 my client Tony Greene received multiple life sentences. 18 00:03:46,868 --> 00:03:51,464 His conviction was secured by a witness statement. 19 00:03:51,504 --> 00:03:58,057 This witness has, some 25 years later, recanted his statement in a suicide note. 20 00:03:58,097 --> 00:04:03,015 It will be my intent to prove that the conviction of Mr Tony Greene was unsafe. 21 00:04:03,055 --> 00:04:06,491 One day, I'll get out. . . 22 00:04:06,531 --> 00:04:10,046 and do one. . .just for you. 23 00:04:10,086 --> 00:04:15,734 The first witness I will be calling is Dr Grace Foley. 24 00:04:17,714 --> 00:04:19,793 SCREAMING 25 00:04:19,833 --> 00:04:21,711 Dr Foley. 26 00:04:21,751 --> 00:04:25,628 Can you tell the court how you became involved in my client's case? 27 00:04:25,668 --> 00:04:29,542 Yes. I was requested by the Home Office to give a psychological 28 00:04:29,582 --> 00:04:33,538 evaluation of the kidnapper, what we now call an offender profile. 29 00:04:33,578 --> 00:04:37,416 Working with whom? The investigation team. 30 00:04:37,456 --> 00:04:42,092 But who was the police officer that you were working with? What was his name? 31 00:04:47,166 --> 00:04:49,009 Detective Sergeant Harry Taylor. 32 00:05:13,896 --> 00:05:15,735 Excuse me, could you tell me where CID is, please? 33 00:05:15,775 --> 00:05:18,397 Oh, yes, first on the left. OK, thank-you. 34 00:05:20,131 --> 00:05:23,525 There's always one more thing you can do, and right now we're not doing it. 35 00:05:23,565 --> 00:05:25,926 All right, so let's go back over everything. 36 00:05:25,966 --> 00:05:28,642 I want everyone traced and interviewed. 37 00:05:28,682 --> 00:05:31,119 I want all statements cross referenced. 38 00:05:31,159 --> 00:05:32,994 Yes, love? Dr Foley. 39 00:05:33,034 --> 00:05:35,394 Oh, right, he's here. Pardon me. 40 00:05:35,434 --> 00:05:38,231 Where is he? Who? Dr Foley! 41 00:05:38,271 --> 00:05:41,148 I'm Dr Foley. Dr Grace Foley. 42 00:05:41,188 --> 00:05:43,664 ALL LAUGH 43 00:05:43,704 --> 00:05:46,201 All right, get on with it. 44 00:05:47,182 --> 00:05:50,219 Right, so you're here to do this. . . Behavioural Analysis. 45 00:05:50,259 --> 00:05:54,030 Right. You better come into my office. 46 00:05:56,093 --> 00:05:58,311 PHONE RINGS Doesn't look like work, Colin! 47 00:06:03,128 --> 00:06:06,655 So, what do you know about the case, then? Nothing. 48 00:06:08,162 --> 00:06:09,515 Great(! ) 49 00:06:16,349 --> 00:06:18,307 Have a listen to this. 50 00:06:18,347 --> 00:06:20,855 HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYS 51 00:06:28,137 --> 00:06:31,334 MUFFLED SOBBING 52 00:06:31,374 --> 00:06:34,371 'No! No! No! 53 00:06:34,411 --> 00:06:36,649 'NO! NO! NO!' 54 00:06:36,689 --> 00:06:39,766 WOMAN SCREAMS FRANTICALLY 55 00:06:43,843 --> 00:06:47,036 Well? What do you want to know about it? 56 00:06:47,076 --> 00:06:48,993 Is it real? It's real. 57 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:52,591 So, er, why send it to us? It's a dialogue. Meaning? 58 00:06:52,631 --> 00:06:56,307 The killer is talking to you. He's telling you things. 59 00:06:56,347 --> 00:06:58,704 Things. What things? 60 00:06:58,744 --> 00:07:00,941 He has a victim. He's torturing the victim. 61 00:07:00,981 --> 00:07:03,019 He's in control. 62 00:07:03,059 --> 00:07:06,179 What did he ask for? No, nothing. 63 00:07:06,219 --> 00:07:08,776 No note with the tape? 64 00:07:08,816 --> 00:07:11,028 No. So, er, what does that mean? 65 00:07:12,970 --> 00:07:15,347 Let me hear the rest of the tape. 66 00:07:17,687 --> 00:07:19,724 OK. 67 00:07:19,764 --> 00:07:22,261 HEAVY ROCK MUSIC PLAYS 68 00:08:16,981 --> 00:08:19,358 SOUNDS OF CROWD CHEERING 69 00:08:24,336 --> 00:08:25,656 Well? 70 00:08:25,696 --> 00:08:27,730 The music is important to him. 71 00:08:27,770 --> 00:08:33,047 Did you check it out? Yeah, it's a bootleg of one of the acts at the last Reading concert. 72 00:08:33,087 --> 00:08:36,364 So it can only be a week old. Yeah. What's that about? 73 00:08:36,404 --> 00:08:38,838 It's a mental watermark of the event. 74 00:08:38,878 --> 00:08:43,711 Because? It's probably where the magic happened. Magic? 75 00:08:43,751 --> 00:08:45,750 The killing chemistry. 76 00:08:45,790 --> 00:08:50,666 When the killer and his victim meet, the chemistry between them is as strong as the love chemistry. 77 00:08:50,706 --> 00:08:53,263 It's a very perfect psychological fit - 78 00:08:53,303 --> 00:08:56,505 the victimology fitting exactly with his psychopathy. 79 00:09:00,454 --> 00:09:05,983 You know, when someone you've never seen before looks at you and suddenly you feel. . . 80 00:09:07,728 --> 00:09:10,231 Alive? Yes. 81 00:09:11,762 --> 00:09:14,720 The song reminds him of the first time they met. 82 00:09:20,832 --> 00:09:22,432 The song. . . On the tape. 83 00:09:22,472 --> 00:09:24,148 Yeah, oh, right. 84 00:09:24,188 --> 00:09:28,494 The music and the victim for him, they are, interdependent. 85 00:09:29,902 --> 00:09:32,902 So what are you saying, he's a musician? 86 00:09:32,942 --> 00:09:35,098 Or wants to be, more like. 87 00:09:35,138 --> 00:09:39,093 The heart moves inexorably to that which it desires, good or bad. 88 00:09:39,133 --> 00:09:41,973 We find his desire and he won't be too far from it. 89 00:09:42,013 --> 00:09:45,170 Orbiting it, or able to attain it, 90 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:47,326 that's how we'll get him. 91 00:09:47,366 --> 00:09:52,480 We? Yes! I thought you were just here for a consultation? But you need me now. 92 00:09:53,955 --> 00:09:56,195 Right, you got me all figured out then? 93 00:09:56,235 --> 00:09:58,712 Well, you're my first one, so I'll have to see if I am right. 94 00:09:58,752 --> 00:10:00,710 First? First case! 95 00:10:00,750 --> 00:10:02,837 Right. . . 96 00:10:05,347 --> 00:10:08,503 He sent you this to introduce himself, 97 00:10:08,543 --> 00:10:10,860 to start the game. Game? 98 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:13,337 Oh, sorry, I don't understand. 99 00:10:13,377 --> 00:10:15,575 He's a nobody and wants to be a somebody. 100 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:19,171 If he does this right, it will put him up there with Ted Bundy. 101 00:10:19,211 --> 00:10:22,888 A multiple killer. So he'll kill again? Definitely. 102 00:10:22,928 --> 00:10:25,015 And there'll be a pattern. 103 00:10:26,205 --> 00:10:28,599 Focus on the music. 104 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:31,916 You're looking for a young man, a loner who works behind the scenes, 105 00:10:31,956 --> 00:10:37,445 maybe a sound engineer, a lighting operator, something that gets him close to the action. 106 00:10:42,627 --> 00:10:45,822 Jim. Send a bulletin to all locals, tell them to stop and search anybody 107 00:10:45,862 --> 00:10:48,894 going in and out of live music venues. 108 00:10:57,573 --> 00:11:00,649 Welcome on board. Harry, by the way. 109 00:11:00,689 --> 00:11:02,644 Dr Foley? 110 00:11:02,684 --> 00:11:08,477 Yes. . . Sorry? Would it be fair to say that you had a lot invested in the arrest of Tony Greene? 111 00:11:08,517 --> 00:11:13,032 Since it was your input that led the police to his arrest? 112 00:11:13,072 --> 00:11:16,070 Yes, I had invested a lot of time and expertise. 113 00:11:16,110 --> 00:11:19,226 But, surely, it meant more than that to you? 114 00:11:19,266 --> 00:11:22,664 This is your first case, your big break? 115 00:11:22,704 --> 00:11:26,430 A successful prosecution was paramount for closure? 116 00:11:27,907 --> 00:11:31,494 Well, on the contrary, it's just as helpful to an investigation 117 00:11:31,534 --> 00:11:36,051 team to rule somebody out as to rule somebody in. Accepted. 118 00:11:36,091 --> 00:11:39,008 But let us establish for the record. 119 00:11:39,048 --> 00:11:42,442 The police would not have been looking for someone with his profile 120 00:11:42,482 --> 00:11:45,846 had you not told them to do so? That is correct. 121 00:11:45,886 --> 00:11:49,202 No further questions at this time, my Lord. 122 00:12:01,741 --> 00:12:04,005 Give the bag. . . Get off! Get off! 123 00:12:07,096 --> 00:12:08,693 Grace! 124 00:12:08,733 --> 00:12:13,168 Are you all right? Yes, I think so. Did you see him? 125 00:12:13,208 --> 00:12:18,006 No, no he's gone. Are you OK? Yeah, I'm OK, but he's got my bag and my files. 126 00:12:18,046 --> 00:12:21,121 Doesn't matter, as long as you're not hurt. My phone and my purse. . . 127 00:12:21,161 --> 00:12:25,754 Look, I'm sure once he's emptied that bag, you'll get it all back. OK, but I need a cab. 128 00:12:25,794 --> 00:12:29,622 Let me call you a taxi. Taxi! Bastard! 129 00:12:31,228 --> 00:12:33,401 Dave, have you got that report? 130 00:12:37,382 --> 00:12:39,220 What's this? 131 00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:41,980 Your desk. It's a bit. . . 132 00:12:42,020 --> 00:12:44,736 What? Close quarters? 133 00:12:44,776 --> 00:12:47,614 Don't worry, won't bite. 134 00:12:47,654 --> 00:12:49,662 Suppose I don't have any choice then. 135 00:12:57,959 --> 00:13:01,396 Problem with the lads? No, just the office prats. 136 00:13:01,436 --> 00:13:02,909 Ignore them. 137 00:13:04,554 --> 00:13:09,503 Is this a present? Yes, it's a typewriter, do you know how to use one? 138 00:13:10,828 --> 00:13:12,624 Bit cheeky. 139 00:13:12,664 --> 00:13:16,301 Unscrew the pressure cap by turning it anti-clockwise. . . 140 00:13:16,341 --> 00:13:19,782 That's the pressure cap. That's hot. 141 00:13:22,184 --> 00:13:26,212 Hi, how are you? I've had my bag stolen. . . Yeah, we know. 142 00:13:26,252 --> 00:13:29,486 You know? It was handed in. I put it in your office. 143 00:13:29,526 --> 00:13:31,883 That's the advantage of having a handbag the size of a suitcase. 144 00:13:31,923 --> 00:13:36,388 The poor guy couldn't carry it for long! So, what happened? He ran up the outside. . . 145 00:13:39,963 --> 00:13:44,627 What? What is it? Oh, my God. 146 00:13:50,266 --> 00:13:52,985 Gherkins? Wait a minute. . . What? 147 00:13:55,619 --> 00:13:57,905 Fingers. . . 148 00:13:57,945 --> 00:14:00,014 Fingers? Let's get it to the lab. 149 00:14:00,054 --> 00:14:02,614 OK, in total. . . Five fingers and one thumb. . . 150 00:14:02,654 --> 00:14:04,931 Six different victims. Gender? 151 00:14:04,971 --> 00:14:07,127 Without DNA results, 152 00:14:07,167 --> 00:14:08,722 I'd say young males. 153 00:14:08,762 --> 00:14:10,922 My God. . . It gets worse. It usually does. 154 00:14:10,962 --> 00:14:15,716 These four and the thumb are between 20 and 30 years old and have been preserved. . . But? 155 00:14:15,756 --> 00:14:20,793 But, this one was removed from a living hand no longer than a few hours ago. 156 00:14:20,833 --> 00:14:25,666 Hours? Yeah, it's still bleeding. OK, so we know that Tony Greene sent fingers in a jar 30 years ago 157 00:14:25,706 --> 00:14:29,581 to the investigating team Grace worked with. How many jars were found? 158 00:14:29,621 --> 00:14:34,826 The one he sent to the team and three we found in his van. Each jar containing how many fingers? Five. 159 00:14:34,866 --> 00:14:39,652 Five fingers from five different victims. So, there was one jar with five fingers always been missing. 160 00:14:39,692 --> 00:14:42,569 Yes. Check the old fingers against the ones from Greene's victims 161 00:14:42,609 --> 00:14:44,612 and see if we get a match. Right, that's that. 162 00:14:44,652 --> 00:14:50,519 The immediate problem is the new finger, OK. No notes. No demands. A hostage without demands? 163 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:54,275 That's not an impossible situation, that's not impossible Spence. OK. 164 00:14:54,315 --> 00:15:00,349 One thing we do know? Someone out there's re-enacting Greene's MO. Yeah. Or. . . Or what? 165 00:15:00,389 --> 00:15:02,989 Greene is. . . 166 00:15:03,029 --> 00:15:04,786 What? 167 00:15:04,826 --> 00:15:06,674 Greene is innocent? 168 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:12,816 What Spence is trying to say is that I might have made a mistake. 169 00:15:12,856 --> 00:15:16,014 And the real killer has come out because of the media attention of the appeal case. 170 00:15:16,054 --> 00:15:19,331 That might be the case, but it doesn't alter the fact that there's a kid out there. . . 171 00:15:19,371 --> 00:15:22,248 and that kid might be alive and we could save that kid's life. 172 00:15:22,288 --> 00:15:26,962 Does anyone have an alternative interpretation? Stella, do you wanna say something or throw up? 173 00:15:27,002 --> 00:15:29,039 No. No. Good OK. 174 00:15:29,079 --> 00:15:30,639 Felix would you carry on, please? 175 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:34,913 OK, the victim is white, probably male in his teens. 176 00:15:34,953 --> 00:15:39,227 There's plenty of meat on the bone and the nail and its housing are in very good condition 177 00:15:39,267 --> 00:15:43,663 which would suggest he was well-fed and nourished. The nail is also well cut and groomed. 178 00:15:43,703 --> 00:15:46,548 Unless the guy who chopped it off gave him a manicure. . . 179 00:15:46,588 --> 00:15:51,375 And he could have taken off his nail polish as well( !) OK. Right now, that's all I have for you. 180 00:15:51,415 --> 00:15:57,929 I've sent off the DNA samples to the labs but it could take up to 24 hours for a hit, if he's in the data bank. 181 00:15:57,969 --> 00:16:01,843 Come on, we don't need to go there. How long have we got on this victim? 182 00:16:01,883 --> 00:16:04,447 There's a number of possibilities. The victim has bled to death. 183 00:16:04,487 --> 00:16:07,238 He's in shock and will be dead within 14 hours. 184 00:16:07,278 --> 00:16:09,435 Or, he survives the shock but develops blood poisoning and will 185 00:16:09,475 --> 00:16:14,111 be dead within three to five days. What is the most likely scenario? 186 00:16:14,151 --> 00:16:18,536 Well, if the victim is still alive he's not in good shape. 187 00:16:45,516 --> 00:16:48,383 BIRD CHIRPS 188 00:17:06,695 --> 00:17:09,562 Grace, do you want to contribute? It might be his own finger! 189 00:17:11,932 --> 00:17:14,445 Well, go on I'm listening. . . 190 00:17:14,485 --> 00:17:18,760 It might be a nutter who knows about the Greene case, dug some graves, 191 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,918 nicked a few fingers and then cut his own and put it in the jar. 192 00:17:22,958 --> 00:17:25,011 A freak looking for attention. 193 00:17:27,592 --> 00:17:31,228 OK. I was just suggesting. . . No, no that's interesting. 194 00:17:31,268 --> 00:17:36,346 So to rule that out, we need to keep pushing the DNA cross reference on the Greene fingers. 195 00:17:36,386 --> 00:17:40,825 The Greene fingers, can't believe I said that! 196 00:17:40,865 --> 00:17:43,176 OK, Grace, you're bursting. . . 197 00:17:43,216 --> 00:17:49,889 Was there anything written on the lid of the jar? Yeah, I was just about to get to that. 198 00:17:49,929 --> 00:17:52,650 Oh, God. "If it wasn't for your stiff little fingers. . . 199 00:17:52,690 --> 00:17:55,881 ". . No-one would know you were dead. " Yeah. 200 00:17:57,281 --> 00:18:00,359 Well, that was written under Greene's jars too. . . 201 00:18:00,399 --> 00:18:02,657 It was never in the public domain. 202 00:18:07,069 --> 00:18:09,067 So only the real killer would have known that. 203 00:18:09,107 --> 00:18:13,743 Yeah, or someone close to him. One of Tony Greene's ex cell-mates. I'm on it. Felix would you like. . . 204 00:18:13,783 --> 00:18:15,426 Investigate me too. 205 00:18:17,461 --> 00:18:21,022 Why? Well, the jar was found in my bag. 206 00:18:22,535 --> 00:18:28,569 I'm the first link in the chain of evidence, that makes me the first point of investigation. 207 00:18:28,609 --> 00:18:30,946 Treat me like a suspect. 208 00:18:42,671 --> 00:18:44,719 BIRD CHIRPS 209 00:18:57,496 --> 00:19:03,413 I want the name and addresses of all the prisoners who shared with Tony Greene, Prisoner number 1042034P, 210 00:19:03,453 --> 00:19:05,620 ASAP, please. Cheers. Thank you. 211 00:19:07,487 --> 00:19:09,322 Are you sure you want us to do this? 212 00:19:09,362 --> 00:19:11,602 There's a young lad out there somewhere. 213 00:19:11,642 --> 00:19:15,399 How else are we gonna to get to him? Somehow the kidnapper is connected to me. 214 00:19:15,439 --> 00:19:17,516 I've ordered all the CCTV for the streets around the courts. 215 00:19:17,556 --> 00:19:22,116 I'll get a list of all court cases where your testimony helped to get a successful conviction. 216 00:19:22,156 --> 00:19:24,347 Yeah, then cross reference it with recent releases. 217 00:19:24,387 --> 00:19:28,307 I'll cross reference the names of Greene's ex-cellmates and we'll get him. Good. 218 00:19:28,347 --> 00:19:33,221 OK that's my password Spence, to my computer. You'll find everything you'll need on there. OK. 219 00:19:33,261 --> 00:19:35,314 Let's get it done. 220 00:19:38,772 --> 00:19:41,320 You sure you're OK with this? No. . . But. . . 221 00:19:44,605 --> 00:19:46,869 Good. 222 00:19:54,394 --> 00:19:56,194 Oh, please! 223 00:19:56,234 --> 00:19:59,395 Oh, God please! 224 00:19:59,435 --> 00:20:02,427 Please let me go! 225 00:20:02,467 --> 00:20:06,033 Let me go. . . please. . . 226 00:20:14,057 --> 00:20:16,275 Oh! 227 00:20:26,321 --> 00:20:28,824 Please. . . Please. . . 228 00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:42,663 Dr Foley, in Tony Greene's original trial you gave an Offender Profile 229 00:20:42,703 --> 00:20:47,701 to the Court illuminating reasons for his alleged crimes. 230 00:20:47,741 --> 00:20:49,938 Could you remind us of that profile? 231 00:20:49,978 --> 00:20:55,672 Tony Greene is an outcast in the middle of a world to which he desperately wants to belong. 232 00:20:57,166 --> 00:21:02,042 More than. . .anything he longed to be in a band, but he didn't have any talent. 233 00:21:02,082 --> 00:21:04,101 So he become a roadie. 234 00:21:09,037 --> 00:21:11,834 This brought him close to it, but not into it. 235 00:21:11,874 --> 00:21:15,311 At least, not into the part of it where he wanted to be, the stage. 236 00:21:15,351 --> 00:21:17,199 The fame. 237 00:21:18,705 --> 00:21:22,342 He eventually hated it. He hated it for rejecting him 238 00:21:22,382 --> 00:21:26,059 and he hated himself for not having the strength to walk away. 239 00:21:26,099 --> 00:21:28,979 But he knew how to get that attention he craves. 240 00:21:29,019 --> 00:21:33,327 Be another Ted Bundy, a serial killer. 241 00:21:33,367 --> 00:21:35,088 His victims? 242 00:21:35,128 --> 00:21:39,321 Forms of himself, other pathetic wannabes. 243 00:21:39,361 --> 00:21:41,762 Or what's known as 'Meat-Puppets'. 244 00:21:41,802 --> 00:21:45,718 And so he stepped over that line into his fantasy. 245 00:21:45,758 --> 00:21:49,633 And enacted it in the music world. 246 00:21:49,673 --> 00:21:53,472 Leading to the second part, finding a suitable victim. 247 00:21:53,512 --> 00:21:56,146 He didn't need to look far. 248 00:21:56,186 --> 00:21:59,267 Wow. . . Hey. . . Is that his guitar? 249 00:21:59,307 --> 00:22:04,698 As so often is the case, the victim unwittingly came to find his killer. 250 00:22:04,738 --> 00:22:07,075 You wanna hold it? Wow. . . Yeah. . . 251 00:22:10,332 --> 00:22:12,726 Presenting himself with an unconscious behaviour 252 00:22:12,766 --> 00:22:17,563 that met perfectly with the killing needs of the accused. 253 00:22:17,603 --> 00:22:24,274 Because ultimately Tony Greene knew that that's all he would ever amount to being - a 'Meat Puppet'. 254 00:22:24,314 --> 00:22:28,553 We tracked him down when we identified the first part of his MO. 255 00:22:28,593 --> 00:22:32,745 So you wanna come to the party to meet the band? Yeah! Great! 256 00:22:32,785 --> 00:22:35,305 You better not show me up. 257 00:22:35,345 --> 00:22:38,062 Hope you're cool with the blow and that, yeah? 258 00:22:38,102 --> 00:22:40,021 Yeah, I'm down, man. 259 00:22:40,061 --> 00:22:41,896 Good. 260 00:22:41,936 --> 00:22:47,789 Light up on that. . . If any part of his plan falls apart, then so does he. 261 00:22:49,247 --> 00:22:54,325 The victim had never used heroin before and took a severe reaction to the drug, 262 00:22:54,365 --> 00:22:56,521 which caused him to collapse. 263 00:22:56,561 --> 00:22:59,183 HE COUGHS AND RETCHES What? 264 00:23:01,995 --> 00:23:03,804 Get up! 265 00:23:08,749 --> 00:23:10,747 Greene can't think on the move. 266 00:23:10,787 --> 00:23:16,071 He panicked and made the mistake that would lead to him being found in possession of his victim. 267 00:23:25,008 --> 00:23:26,766 But at this point, 268 00:23:26,806 --> 00:23:32,800 could we not be looking at a situation where my Client's version of events stand true? 269 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,520 He was getting the boy stoned in order to have sex with him? 270 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,717 It went wrong and he panicked. 271 00:23:38,757 --> 00:23:41,994 Well, at that point in time, yes. But later we discovered. . . 272 00:23:42,034 --> 00:23:49,745 And in 1980, behavioural science, not to mention offender profiling, was practically unheard of! 273 00:23:49,785 --> 00:23:53,886 It was an emerging science! No further questions at this time, My Lord. 274 00:23:57,858 --> 00:24:02,371 I can't believe the Prison Record Service is still 20 years behind the rest of the world? 275 00:24:02,411 --> 00:24:04,930 How much is it going to cost to load all this stuff onto a computer, eh? 276 00:24:04,970 --> 00:24:08,284 Well, maybe it's safer that way, because then this doesn't happen. 277 00:24:08,324 --> 00:24:10,283 What's that? 278 00:24:10,323 --> 00:24:14,913 Every detail of Tony Greene's case for all to see on the web. 279 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:21,711 "Welcome to Blind Justice, we record and post all details of corruption within the British Judicial System. " 280 00:24:21,751 --> 00:24:24,467 And there's over 100 case files posted here. 281 00:24:24,507 --> 00:24:27,107 Greene's is right at the top. Can you trace the IP? We can try. 282 00:24:27,147 --> 00:24:31,099 But they will more than likely have a dead end IP in the Ukraine. What about the quote from the lid? 283 00:24:31,139 --> 00:24:34,018 Not here. . . Anything else? 284 00:24:34,058 --> 00:24:38,132 Yep. . . Lots of stuff about the original Greene investigation 285 00:24:38,172 --> 00:24:42,206 and a reference to a drink-driving charge against, DS Harry Taylor? 286 00:24:42,246 --> 00:24:44,085 That's Greene's Arresting Officer. . . 287 00:24:44,125 --> 00:24:47,612 Grace was called as witness because she was. . . A passenger in the car. 288 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,078 Sorry Grace. . . No, Spence, it's OK, 289 00:24:53,118 --> 00:24:55,330 I'll leave you to it. 290 00:24:59,551 --> 00:25:06,382 Boyd? I had Missing Persons send me over all known IC one males in the age group. 291 00:25:06,422 --> 00:25:08,662 I just couldn't believe there are so many. 292 00:25:08,702 --> 00:25:10,819 Delegate. No I want to do it. 293 00:25:10,859 --> 00:25:14,930 What can you hope to achieve? Well, he's got to be in here somewhere, hasn't he? 294 00:25:14,970 --> 00:25:17,512 Yes. Well? 295 00:25:19,007 --> 00:25:20,884 There's so many of them. 296 00:25:20,924 --> 00:25:24,126 I'm having them all printed out and put on my desk over there. 297 00:25:25,641 --> 00:25:27,798 OK, well I'll start with these. 298 00:25:27,838 --> 00:25:29,561 Fine. 299 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:35,112 OK. We've got four of Greene's ex-cellmates out in the world. 300 00:25:35,152 --> 00:25:39,387 I've got two names of ex-prisoners who lodged a complaint against Grace. Name yours? 301 00:25:39,427 --> 00:25:40,986 Malcolm Sinclair? No. Robert Harley? 302 00:25:41,026 --> 00:25:42,903 No. Angus McHale? 303 00:25:42,943 --> 00:25:45,660 Yes. Terry Healy? No. 304 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:47,260 OK. Angus McHale. 305 00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:50,695 Killed his wife and three kids in 1979. What's his complaint? 306 00:25:50,735 --> 00:25:55,767 Dear me. . . What's that? He claimed that Grace entered his cell and forced him to have sex with her. OK. 307 00:25:55,807 --> 00:25:57,447 How far did they go with that one? 308 00:25:57,487 --> 00:26:03,600 They logged it. Then five years later, after treatment - no wonder - he admitted it was hallucination. 309 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,237 When did he get out of prison? Two years ago. 310 00:26:06,277 --> 00:26:09,793 Maybe he's having more hallucinations? Angus McHale. . . 311 00:26:09,833 --> 00:26:11,473 What's the other name on the list? 312 00:26:11,513 --> 00:26:13,600 Derek Carling. What prison? 313 00:26:16,547 --> 00:26:18,425 Broadmoor, 1984. 314 00:26:18,465 --> 00:26:21,507 It's a dead end - deceased. Yeah. But what's the complaint? 315 00:26:21,547 --> 00:26:23,555 A breach of patient confidentiality. 316 00:26:24,659 --> 00:26:30,336 He told her in confidence where he had hidden a newborn he'd abducted from a maternity ward. 317 00:26:30,376 --> 00:26:32,972 Grace told the police, the infant was found unharmed. 318 00:26:33,012 --> 00:26:37,723 OK. Let's get McHale under investigation and bring in the others for questioning. 319 00:26:37,763 --> 00:26:41,201 I've requested the case files from the original Greene investigation. 320 00:26:41,241 --> 00:26:45,476 I'm going through her personal files so we can cross reference, yeah? OK. Good. 321 00:26:45,516 --> 00:26:49,631 Victim profile? An abduction that's not by force, is by deception. 322 00:26:49,671 --> 00:26:53,787 If he was taken from the street, they'd have needed to be discreet. 323 00:26:53,827 --> 00:26:56,388 So. . . Deception. Yep. 324 00:26:56,428 --> 00:26:59,423 Which points to someone lacking in street sense. 325 00:26:59,463 --> 00:27:01,100 So a kid from the country? 326 00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:04,178 Yeah. Or a very sheltered background. 327 00:27:04,218 --> 00:27:06,052 Middle class kid from the country. 328 00:27:06,092 --> 00:27:07,933 Vulnerable. 329 00:27:07,973 --> 00:27:14,122 Of course, to know all this for sure we'd have to know their personal histories. Which we don't have. So? 330 00:27:16,322 --> 00:27:20,082 I once heard a very cruel way of segregating the kids who could be 331 00:27:20,122 --> 00:27:24,178 saved from the streets and those who couldn't. I'm listening. 332 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:31,590 OK, look at them with a parent's eyes. 333 00:27:31,630 --> 00:27:33,945 Look for the ones who are still children. 334 00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:37,346 The ones who listen to you and trust you. 335 00:27:38,819 --> 00:27:42,575 They're the ones that the predator will pick. 336 00:27:42,615 --> 00:27:45,567 The kids that can be saved are the ones that can be taken. 337 00:28:16,381 --> 00:28:20,619 Ah, please mister. Please, I'm begging ya. . . 338 00:28:20,659 --> 00:28:23,691 BIRD CHIRPS Just let me. . . 339 00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:41,986 ECHOING CRY OF SEAGULLS 340 00:28:56,221 --> 00:29:00,330 So, if we're right, our victim is one of these. Yes. 341 00:29:00,370 --> 00:29:02,732 So, if we could locate each one of them and rule them out. 342 00:29:02,772 --> 00:29:05,247 McHale is being brought in. That's great. Have you searched his house? 343 00:29:05,287 --> 00:29:08,003 Made a full search of the farm and they're still going through the outlying buildings. 344 00:29:08,043 --> 00:29:12,838 Why is it they always have outlying buildings? They need them . To put the bodies in? 345 00:29:12,878 --> 00:29:16,315 Cattle? Yeah, OK. So what happened to the rest of his cell mates? 346 00:29:16,355 --> 00:29:20,034 They're on their way in, they'll be interviewed and DNA'd by this afternoon. Great, thanks, Spence. 347 00:29:20,074 --> 00:29:24,164 Your victim. Really? Yeah. What, you got a match on the DNA? Yeah. 348 00:29:28,582 --> 00:29:30,221 No. . . no. . . 349 00:29:30,261 --> 00:29:32,582 no. . . That's possible. 350 00:29:32,622 --> 00:29:34,342 That is possible. 351 00:29:34,382 --> 00:29:36,732 Yeah, his jaw's much heavier. The eyes are very good. 352 00:29:36,772 --> 00:29:38,689 Not like an innocent there then, is he? 353 00:29:38,729 --> 00:29:42,685 He was arrested. Six weeks ago for pick-pocketing in Kings Cross. 354 00:29:42,725 --> 00:29:46,203 The locals said he was new to the area and involved in prostitution. 355 00:29:46,243 --> 00:29:49,922 No fixed address. Thank you very much Felix. Brian Dunne? 356 00:29:49,962 --> 00:29:51,442 That's probably a false name. 357 00:29:51,482 --> 00:29:53,237 We've got him down as Kevin Keogh. 358 00:29:53,277 --> 00:29:56,353 Brown, hair blue eyes, speaks with an Irish accent. 359 00:29:56,393 --> 00:30:00,868 OK, get the DNA in this file over to the PSNI and the Garda Sionchana. The who? The what? 360 00:30:00,908 --> 00:30:04,225 The Irish Police forces. OK, I'll do it now. He's not using Greene's MO, is he? 361 00:30:04,265 --> 00:30:07,302 No. How do you spell Sean O'Conner. . . With an 's'. . . Is he? 362 00:30:07,342 --> 00:30:11,539 No, Greene lured particular boys who were connected to the music. 363 00:30:11,579 --> 00:30:14,055 This guy's obviously been picked for money. This is a rent boy. 364 00:30:14,095 --> 00:30:17,567 So, why can't he pull it off as an exact copy? 365 00:30:17,607 --> 00:30:20,369 Well, maybe he just lacks the social skills to seduce, or maybe he hasn't 366 00:30:20,409 --> 00:30:23,204 got the physical power to abduct by force. 367 00:30:23,244 --> 00:30:25,280 All of Greene's ex-cell mates have got the physical capability of 368 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,318 abducting anybody by force, but this guy's a rent boy, he's paid for. 369 00:30:28,358 --> 00:30:30,075 This is different, isn't it? 370 00:30:30,115 --> 00:30:33,115 Yes, it's different. Yeah. 371 00:30:33,155 --> 00:30:36,432 Yet, he desperately wants to appear to be using Greene's MO. 372 00:30:36,472 --> 00:30:38,911 Why? 373 00:30:38,951 --> 00:30:41,209 To get to me. But why you? 374 00:30:43,703 --> 00:30:46,179 I don't know. Harley. . . 375 00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:48,511 Stand in front of the wall please and remove your top half. 376 00:30:50,056 --> 00:30:51,456 Sinclair. . . 377 00:30:51,496 --> 00:30:54,687 McHale. . . 378 00:30:56,765 --> 00:30:58,813 Healy. . . 379 00:30:59,565 --> 00:31:02,885 Stand in front of the wall and remove your top half please. 380 00:31:02,925 --> 00:31:05,280 Why? 381 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,636 Because we have to photograph all distinguishing marks, that's why. 382 00:31:26,698 --> 00:31:28,051 OK. Turn around please. 383 00:31:33,492 --> 00:31:35,585 Wow, that's impressive. 384 00:31:39,281 --> 00:31:41,200 OK. That's me done. 385 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,577 Your turn, Spence. Come, out. 386 00:31:48,915 --> 00:31:52,670 Your cell mate, Tony Greene. Yeah? 387 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:55,985 Did he talk to you much about his crimes? 388 00:31:56,025 --> 00:31:58,743 We lived in the same twelve by eight room for six years. 389 00:31:58,783 --> 00:32:01,819 So that's a yes? Why do you want to know about Greene? 390 00:32:01,859 --> 00:32:05,094 I'll ask the questions. I'm not under arrest. No, you're not. 391 00:32:05,134 --> 00:32:08,531 I'm here helping with inquiries. I can walk out any time I like. 392 00:32:08,571 --> 00:32:10,208 So I'd like to know why I am here, please? 393 00:32:10,248 --> 00:32:15,047 He spoke to you about the details of his crimes, yes? His collection of fingers? 394 00:32:15,087 --> 00:32:17,682 I think I need to say, "I want a solicitor. " 395 00:32:17,722 --> 00:32:20,281 Whoa, whoa. Why go there if there's nothing to hide? 396 00:32:20,321 --> 00:32:22,836 I've got nothing to hide, but I've got everything to protect. 397 00:32:22,876 --> 00:32:25,633 Protect from what? From you. 398 00:32:25,673 --> 00:32:29,444 Me? Well, not you, but the system that you represent. 399 00:32:30,907 --> 00:32:32,785 We can do this the hard way. . . 400 00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:34,309 Dear me. 401 00:32:36,542 --> 00:32:40,499 Yes. I know every detail of his crimes. 402 00:32:40,539 --> 00:32:43,855 Sometimes he would whisper them in my ears when we were, er. . . 403 00:32:45,655 --> 00:32:49,375 Well, you don't want to know about all that, I'm sure. So you're both gay? 404 00:32:51,924 --> 00:32:56,963 Intellectual concepts like gay and straight don't exist in prison. 405 00:32:57,003 --> 00:33:01,434 You go in there and you're raped until it doesn't matter any more. 406 00:33:01,474 --> 00:33:05,992 You lose your "self", you know, you become nothing. 407 00:33:06,032 --> 00:33:10,025 And then from that nothing something emerges, something else. 408 00:33:10,065 --> 00:33:11,944 The Phoenix. 409 00:33:11,984 --> 00:33:13,753 You go beyond the physical into. . . 410 00:33:15,305 --> 00:33:18,813 I suppose you could call it a spiritual state. A kind of love. 411 00:33:18,853 --> 00:33:21,851 You love him, then? I love him. I hate him. It's the same thing. 412 00:33:21,891 --> 00:33:24,728 Why do you hate him? Because he destroyed me, 413 00:33:24,768 --> 00:33:28,246 made me what I am now. You know, his. I'll always belong to him. 414 00:33:28,286 --> 00:33:30,803 OK, so why do you love him, then? 415 00:33:30,843 --> 00:33:34,239 Well, the same reasons. Look, I don't think you want to have a conversation about love. 416 00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:36,637 OK, let's get back to the fingers, then. 417 00:33:36,677 --> 00:33:39,594 There's been a copy cat hasn't there? 418 00:33:39,634 --> 00:33:44,312 Why d'you say that? It's obvious the missing fingers have turned up, or you wouldn't ask me about them. 419 00:33:44,352 --> 00:33:49,226 Only someone who knows Greene would know where they are, and that's why you pulled me in. 420 00:33:49,266 --> 00:33:54,013 Look don't take this as an insult - it's a very blunt route one equation. No insult taken. 421 00:33:54,053 --> 00:33:57,380 And there is one important piece of truth missing from your sums. 422 00:33:59,092 --> 00:34:01,048 And what's that? 423 00:34:01,088 --> 00:34:03,247 I'm not one of them. 424 00:34:03,287 --> 00:34:06,923 Them? A killer. 425 00:34:06,963 --> 00:34:09,801 So, can I have my clothes back, please? Soon. Yesterday. 426 00:34:09,841 --> 00:34:12,798 Lunchtime, where were you? I live in a halfway house, we have a routine. 427 00:34:12,838 --> 00:34:17,794 Yesterday, I was cleaning the kitchen. Can anyone verify that? It's not a prison. 428 00:34:17,834 --> 00:34:19,314 There's no guards. 429 00:34:19,354 --> 00:34:21,789 That's convenient. 430 00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:23,149 You know. . . 431 00:34:23,189 --> 00:34:27,119 there's something very beautiful inside you. 432 00:34:29,863 --> 00:34:32,537 Interview terminated. 433 00:34:32,577 --> 00:34:36,891 All human beings have the right to bloom. 434 00:34:36,931 --> 00:34:39,048 What's that supposed to mean? 435 00:34:39,088 --> 00:34:41,016 To become the best we can be. 436 00:35:14,012 --> 00:35:16,808 Boyd. Yeah. 437 00:35:16,848 --> 00:35:19,185 Boyd! 438 00:35:22,404 --> 00:35:24,452 They've made contact. 439 00:35:27,323 --> 00:35:29,837 My name is. . . My name is Kevin. . . 440 00:35:29,877 --> 00:35:32,277 Kevin Keogh from Newry 441 00:35:32,317 --> 00:35:34,511 and I wanna go home. 442 00:35:34,551 --> 00:35:38,068 Dr Grace Foley, you are wrong about Tony Greene, 443 00:35:38,108 --> 00:35:41,224 he's innocent. 444 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:43,351 I'm with the real killer. 445 00:35:44,698 --> 00:35:47,417 If you. . . you must admit that you are wrong, 446 00:35:47,457 --> 00:35:50,045 otherwise there'll be consequences. 447 00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:55,647 Is that it now, mister? 448 00:35:55,687 --> 00:35:57,167 What? 449 00:35:57,207 --> 00:35:58,896 OK. 450 00:36:03,439 --> 00:36:05,359 Good news. 451 00:36:05,399 --> 00:36:08,556 What's happened? What's your good news, Stella? 452 00:36:08,596 --> 00:36:10,513 Brian or Kevin or whatever, he's. . . 453 00:36:10,553 --> 00:36:14,109 I think we can establish that his name is Kevin. How come? 454 00:36:14,149 --> 00:36:15,907 Doesn't matter, what is it? 455 00:36:15,947 --> 00:36:19,024 When he was arrested, he wasn't alone. He was with a friend, 456 00:36:19,064 --> 00:36:21,497 Marius. . . 457 00:36:21,537 --> 00:36:24,498 Luddick alias Redser. Alias? Also known as. 458 00:36:24,538 --> 00:36:28,251 AKA. Bit of French there, was it? Just find him and bring him in. 459 00:36:28,291 --> 00:36:31,209 Right, I have to go. Where? Court. 460 00:36:31,249 --> 00:36:33,926 You're not in a fit state to go anywhere. 461 00:36:33,966 --> 00:36:35,883 If I don't go, then Greene walks. 462 00:36:35,923 --> 00:36:39,403 And if that happens that lad is disposable. 463 00:36:39,443 --> 00:36:41,960 See you later. 464 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,033 What I don't like about this Mpeg is that it's called Number One. I'm not looking forward to Number Two. 465 00:36:46,073 --> 00:36:48,032 I've got them searching for a sender I P. . . That's a waste of time. 466 00:36:48,072 --> 00:36:50,154 We can't even trace the address of the Blind Justice website. 467 00:36:50,194 --> 00:36:52,948 Our kidnapper is not as clever as he thinks he is. No? 468 00:36:52,988 --> 00:36:54,545 No, this Mpeg is full of stuff. 469 00:36:54,585 --> 00:36:57,023 I can see that, but is it good stuff? Well, I'll let you know. 470 00:36:57,063 --> 00:37:00,948 Yeah I'd appreciate it, if you would. Thank you, Felix. 471 00:37:02,216 --> 00:37:09,411 Dr Foley, can you take us back to the night of January the 15th 1980 472 00:37:09,451 --> 00:37:13,124 and the circumstances that lead to the arrest of Mr Greene? 473 00:37:13,164 --> 00:37:18,242 Yes. We knew by now that our killer was connected to music, 474 00:37:18,282 --> 00:37:24,624 so we alerted all units to check vehicles coming and going to music venues. 475 00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:30,956 Greene was stopped. When the police became suspicious, they searched the van. 476 00:37:35,304 --> 00:37:39,434 Is all this stuff yours, Sir? Did you load it yourself? 477 00:37:40,775 --> 00:37:42,731 Are you OK? 478 00:37:42,771 --> 00:37:48,329 We were lucky enough to find Mr Greene's last victim alive, but we never found the bodies of the others. 479 00:37:48,369 --> 00:37:51,962 Although we did find remains. 480 00:37:52,002 --> 00:37:58,196 Mr Greene liked to collect trophies from his victims in the form of fingers. 481 00:37:58,236 --> 00:38:02,835 Forensic examinations of the remains revealed there to be five other victims. 482 00:38:02,875 --> 00:38:06,908 But that's not how you first came into contact with Mr Greene. 483 00:38:06,948 --> 00:38:09,665 I don't understand. Sorry. 484 00:38:09,705 --> 00:38:12,582 That's how the police came into contact with him. 485 00:38:12,622 --> 00:38:18,536 Everything you're telling us here is based on third hand information from some traffic police. 486 00:38:18,576 --> 00:38:22,289 I asked how YOU came into contact with my client. 487 00:38:22,329 --> 00:38:27,409 It's not a difficult question, Dr Foley. Miss Lloyd. 488 00:38:30,045 --> 00:38:33,442 In your original statement, you said you were working late 489 00:38:33,482 --> 00:38:36,239 in the police station when they brought in the prisoner. 490 00:38:36,279 --> 00:38:37,956 That's correct. 491 00:38:37,996 --> 00:38:40,663 That was three in the morning? 492 00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:44,630 I don't recall, but I know it was late. 493 00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:46,787 I can tell you exactly what time it was. 494 00:38:46,827 --> 00:38:49,904 It was 3am and you weren't alone. 495 00:38:51,383 --> 00:38:54,696 Can you tell us who you were with at the time. . . 496 00:38:54,736 --> 00:38:56,744 working with? 497 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,917 Listen, this isn't the time or the place. 498 00:39:13,957 --> 00:39:16,755 It's a simple question. Yes, or no? 499 00:39:16,795 --> 00:39:18,555 We're in the middle of a case. 500 00:39:18,595 --> 00:39:20,364 And when it's over? 501 00:39:22,228 --> 00:39:24,145 Listen Grace, you know. . . 502 00:39:24,185 --> 00:39:26,981 all right. You know how I. . . 503 00:39:27,021 --> 00:39:30,826 feel about you, it's just. . . Say it, then. 504 00:39:32,375 --> 00:39:34,878 Say it. 505 00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:39,013 PHONE RINGS 506 00:39:44,764 --> 00:39:46,891 DS Harry Taylor. 507 00:39:50,636 --> 00:39:53,156 Right, we'll come down. 508 00:39:53,196 --> 00:39:56,762 What is it? We've got him. Come on. 509 00:40:01,386 --> 00:40:03,941 Listen Grace, I think you should go home. Why? 510 00:40:03,981 --> 00:40:07,458 The Docs said, they're not hopeful, which is medical speak for the kid isn't going to make it. 511 00:40:07,498 --> 00:40:09,615 If we want to keep our man we need to nail him tonight. 512 00:40:09,655 --> 00:40:12,132 Then let me help you. How are you going to do that Grace? 513 00:40:12,172 --> 00:40:16,688 Let me talk to him. Sometimes giving people other options can open things up. 514 00:40:16,728 --> 00:40:20,724 We don't have to do the same old routine, day in day out, do we? 515 00:40:20,764 --> 00:40:22,453 Let's be different. 516 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,894 Give me ten minutes alone with him. 517 00:40:28,637 --> 00:40:34,826 Five. Then if he's not signed on the dotted line, then you go home. agreed? Agreed. 518 00:40:47,736 --> 00:40:49,260 Tony. 519 00:40:56,248 --> 00:40:59,444 Aren't you gonna caution me? No. 520 00:40:59,484 --> 00:41:01,696 This is just an informal chat. 521 00:41:03,201 --> 00:41:06,318 Can't believe I finally get to meet you. I feel I know you already. 522 00:41:08,676 --> 00:41:11,393 So tell me, does it feel good, now it's all over? 523 00:41:11,433 --> 00:41:14,069 I'm not stupid, do I look stupid? 524 00:41:14,109 --> 00:41:16,426 Not at all. 525 00:41:16,466 --> 00:41:18,621 I'm actually flattered that they let me have you. 526 00:41:18,661 --> 00:41:22,338 I usually just get to deal with domestic abuse cases, you know, 527 00:41:22,378 --> 00:41:24,021 namby pamby stuff. 528 00:41:25,535 --> 00:41:27,344 You're my big career break. 529 00:41:30,572 --> 00:41:33,329 I didn't know the kid was in there. 530 00:41:33,369 --> 00:41:37,202 That's fine until the kid wakes up and gives evidence. 531 00:41:37,242 --> 00:41:42,641 But he's not gonna wake up, is he? His whole head haemorrhaged. 532 00:41:42,681 --> 00:41:47,761 Well, he probably wouldn't have woken up, had he not received medical help. 533 00:41:49,871 --> 00:41:52,294 But he will. You hope. 534 00:41:56,142 --> 00:41:58,030 What a boring end to it all. 535 00:41:59,539 --> 00:42:04,654 This should've been front page. My first feather in my cap and now. . . 536 00:42:04,694 --> 00:42:08,847 Well, it's like some sort of embarrassing, sexual, dysfunctional thing. What? 537 00:42:08,887 --> 00:42:13,523 Well, you know, abducting and raping. . . I don't. . . 538 00:42:15,761 --> 00:42:17,401 . . rape them. 539 00:42:17,441 --> 00:42:19,399 I know that. 540 00:42:19,439 --> 00:42:22,061 But you want to. 541 00:42:25,113 --> 00:42:27,150 What sort of a cop are you? 542 00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:30,836 I'm not a cop, I'm a doctor. 543 00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:37,217 I'm your ticket to a section, if you play your cards right. You see, 544 00:42:37,257 --> 00:42:40,255 I know you can't penetrate sexually. 545 00:42:40,295 --> 00:42:43,941 So, you penetrate with weapons instead. 546 00:42:45,809 --> 00:42:53,261 Am I right? What's it going to be like in prison being the gay rapist who can't get it up? 547 00:43:01,114 --> 00:43:04,631 I hope you have a child. . . 548 00:43:04,671 --> 00:43:06,963 and it dies. 549 00:43:12,182 --> 00:43:14,099 A word? 550 00:43:14,139 --> 00:43:16,761 Excuse me one moment. 551 00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:24,010 And that was the last I saw of Tony Greene. 552 00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:25,648 Well, until he came to trial. 553 00:43:25,688 --> 00:43:30,041 How convenient. I would like to point out to the court 554 00:43:30,081 --> 00:43:35,756 that this is the moment that Mr Greene claims that Dr Foley swapped places 555 00:43:35,796 --> 00:43:41,637 with Detective Sergeant Harry Taylor, who then proceeded to beat him into signing a confession. 556 00:43:41,677 --> 00:43:43,670 A confession which he later withdrew. 557 00:43:43,710 --> 00:43:49,381 I would remind the court that it actually was the testimony of his victim that put him away. 558 00:43:49,421 --> 00:43:54,298 A testimony that has since been recanted. Do you think he was beaten? 559 00:43:54,338 --> 00:43:56,815 Dr Foley, you will not have to answer that question. 560 00:43:56,855 --> 00:43:58,415 Thank you. My Lord. . . 561 00:43:58,455 --> 00:44:01,369 Ms Lloyd, this calls for Dr Foley to speculate 562 00:44:01,409 --> 00:44:06,326 on the actions of a colleague who sadly is no longer with us and therefore cannot defend himself. 563 00:44:06,366 --> 00:44:07,923 Yes, My Lord. 564 00:44:07,963 --> 00:44:11,000 Are there any further questions for Dr Foley? 565 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,717 No, My Lord. You may step down. 566 00:44:13,757 --> 00:44:18,591 Thank you. Oh, there is one more thing. 567 00:44:18,631 --> 00:44:23,425 Were you and Harry Taylor in love during this time? And is that why you're protecting his memory? 568 00:44:23,465 --> 00:44:28,138 Ms Lloyd remove yourself from my court, otherwise I'll have a Sheriff take you to the cells for contempt! 569 00:44:28,178 --> 00:44:31,494 Court adjourned. 570 00:44:33,733 --> 00:44:36,930 So, you and Kevin? Who? 571 00:44:36,970 --> 00:44:39,247 Brian. 572 00:44:39,287 --> 00:44:41,327 Ah, Irish. 573 00:44:41,367 --> 00:44:44,728 What about him? We're trying to find him. Why? 574 00:44:46,201 --> 00:44:47,758 That's got nothing to do with you. 575 00:44:47,798 --> 00:44:51,118 OK. End of conversation. 576 00:44:51,158 --> 00:44:54,631 I'm trying to save his life. So I should give you a medal for that? 577 00:44:54,671 --> 00:45:00,309 Do you want me to send you back to where you came from? You don't know where I come from. You asshole! 578 00:45:00,349 --> 00:45:02,766 Sir, maybe I could. . . 579 00:45:04,223 --> 00:45:06,350 Yeah, maybe you should. 580 00:45:08,978 --> 00:45:13,611 What's his problem? Tell me about Irish. 581 00:45:13,651 --> 00:45:16,769 Excuse me. 582 00:45:16,809 --> 00:45:18,578 Excuse me. 583 00:45:21,486 --> 00:45:25,399 How dare you drag my private life into this hearing. 584 00:45:25,439 --> 00:45:30,433 Look, either you don't know the truth, or you're covering up a lie. You just listen to me. 585 00:45:30,473 --> 00:45:36,071 I sat in a room on my own with that man and there is no doubt in my mind that he is a monster. 586 00:45:36,111 --> 00:45:38,825 If he is released from prison, he will kill again. 587 00:45:38,865 --> 00:45:40,782 But I'm not arguing that. 588 00:45:40,822 --> 00:45:43,338 Fine, he's guilty. He's a monster. 589 00:45:43,378 --> 00:45:46,696 That's not my problem. It's my job to get him out. 590 00:45:46,736 --> 00:45:52,330 And if you didn't do your job right, then that makes my job very easy. 591 00:45:52,370 --> 00:45:55,367 It's just something you'll have to live with. 592 00:45:59,285 --> 00:46:02,607 I warn him. . . Warn him? 593 00:46:04,118 --> 00:46:06,195 Not to go with that weirdo. 594 00:46:06,235 --> 00:46:08,995 What weirdo? In the white van. 595 00:46:09,035 --> 00:46:11,632 A van? Yeah. 596 00:46:11,672 --> 00:46:14,169 I have the number. The registration? 597 00:46:15,706 --> 00:46:18,413 We take numbers of all the cars. 598 00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:23,177 Do you have it with you - the registration? 599 00:46:23,217 --> 00:46:24,690 Sure. 600 00:46:27,011 --> 00:46:30,372 Well, can I have it? Give it to me. What are you laughing at? 601 00:46:30,412 --> 00:46:34,685 Do you think that I stand there taking down numbers? ! You little shit! 602 00:46:34,725 --> 00:46:38,680 Your friend's been kidnapped and someone is cutting off his fingers. 603 00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:42,836 We want to get him back before he dies. You get it? 604 00:46:42,876 --> 00:46:46,474 You little shit! SHE SHOUTS IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE 605 00:46:46,514 --> 00:46:48,951 OK, Stella? 606 00:46:48,991 --> 00:46:49,986 Stella? 607 00:46:52,104 --> 00:46:53,822 Sir. 608 00:46:56,622 --> 00:47:00,379 The bit about the white van was true. Yeah? 609 00:47:00,419 --> 00:47:02,256 Yes. 610 00:47:02,296 --> 00:47:05,492 Look, I didn't know about the finger thing. 611 00:47:05,532 --> 00:47:06,971 I thought he went back to Ireland. 612 00:47:09,047 --> 00:47:12,539 I'll check the CCTV for King's Cross. Good idea. 613 00:47:15,683 --> 00:47:17,323 She's sexy, yeah? 614 00:47:17,363 --> 00:47:19,245 Yeah. 615 00:47:23,195 --> 00:47:25,117 Yeah. 616 00:47:27,189 --> 00:47:29,306 Grace. Oh hi, Charles. 617 00:47:29,346 --> 00:47:31,102 Are you all right? 618 00:47:31,142 --> 00:47:33,540 What is she like? She's young. 619 00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:38,577 Remember what that was like? Just about. How are you Charles? Oh, I'm all right. 620 00:47:38,617 --> 00:47:40,814 How's everything at New Grange? 621 00:47:40,854 --> 00:47:43,331 Don't you mean how is my patient, Tony Greene? 622 00:47:43,371 --> 00:47:45,768 Huh! 623 00:47:45,808 --> 00:47:48,886 Who do you debrief with? Good gosh, I haven't done that in years. 624 00:47:48,926 --> 00:47:53,042 Maybe you should. It's an important survival tool for us. 625 00:47:53,082 --> 00:47:55,119 Yeah, I know. I'll think about it. 626 00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:59,876 Well, if you want to talk at any time in a professional capacity, I would be privileged. 627 00:47:59,916 --> 00:48:01,834 You're very kind. Thank you. 628 00:48:01,874 --> 00:48:05,825 Not really, I have the very worst of intentions. 629 00:48:05,865 --> 00:48:10,701 Do you nick many Marlon Brando quotes? Only the best ones. 630 00:48:10,741 --> 00:48:13,898 Oh, better go in case they think you're fraternizing. 631 00:48:16,735 --> 00:48:20,970 OK. I've got you some emergency accommodation. 632 00:48:21,010 --> 00:48:23,249 Don't you want it? 633 00:48:23,289 --> 00:48:24,847 Yeah right, 634 00:48:24,887 --> 00:48:27,145 maybe I go straight and be a cop like you. 635 00:48:28,644 --> 00:48:33,354 Don't you want to get off the streets? Can I go now? 636 00:48:35,158 --> 00:48:37,034 Yeah, sure. 637 00:48:37,074 --> 00:48:41,312 Felix has got something for us in the lab. OK. 638 00:48:41,352 --> 00:48:43,065 See this guy out. 639 00:48:43,105 --> 00:48:45,158 Come. 640 00:48:51,339 --> 00:48:53,617 What have you got? 641 00:48:53,657 --> 00:48:56,774 OK. The bed's a medical bed. 642 00:48:56,814 --> 00:49:00,171 Yeah. I blew up an image of something that caught my eye. It's a Hospice insignia. Saint Martin's. 643 00:49:00,211 --> 00:49:03,924 Can you ask them. . . ? I've asked for a list of beds that have been loaned out. So when? 644 00:49:03,964 --> 00:49:09,522 The Matron's doing it now. You don't really need me, do you? No, not really. Next, listen to this. 645 00:49:09,562 --> 00:49:13,195 'I'm with the real killer. ' I think he spoke. . . The kidnapper? 646 00:49:13,235 --> 00:49:19,266 I'm trying to isolate it. What, you haven't done that, yet? No, not yet. Ah, I caught you out there! 647 00:49:19,306 --> 00:49:24,636 Did you get anything from Redser? Not really. I think we should move on to plan B. You sure? Yeah. 648 00:49:26,582 --> 00:49:28,755 Lets bring him in. OK. 649 00:49:44,883 --> 00:49:47,260 BIRD CHIRPS 650 00:49:58,548 --> 00:50:01,023 Oh, Jesus mister, please. 651 00:50:01,063 --> 00:50:04,660 Please! I'm begging you. I haven't done anything wrong. 652 00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:08,814 All I want to do is to go home. Will you please just leave me and let me go home? 653 00:50:08,854 --> 00:50:11,814 He's naming you at every turn, Grace. 654 00:50:11,854 --> 00:50:13,334 What's that supposed to mean exactly? 655 00:50:13,374 --> 00:50:14,969 That there's a personal connection. 656 00:50:15,009 --> 00:50:19,804 You must know this man. I don't. I have searched my mind! 657 00:50:19,844 --> 00:50:24,639 OK, tell me again. I need to know exactly what went on with Greene. 658 00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:28,196 Oh, come on Grace - details, just give me some details! 659 00:50:28,236 --> 00:50:29,709 OK. 660 00:50:33,390 --> 00:50:36,387 I hope you have a child. . . 661 00:50:36,427 --> 00:50:38,230 and it dies. 662 00:50:39,704 --> 00:50:42,339 THUMP ON DOOR 663 00:50:42,379 --> 00:50:45,456 A word? Excuse me one moment. 664 00:50:50,411 --> 00:50:53,090 Well? He did it all right. 665 00:50:53,130 --> 00:50:57,524 But there's no way he'll put his hand up for it. Wants to play the long game. 666 00:50:57,564 --> 00:51:00,124 Are you sure it's him? I'm positive. 667 00:51:00,164 --> 00:51:01,564 OK. 668 00:51:01,604 --> 00:51:03,998 Go home. Not now? 669 00:51:04,038 --> 00:51:05,794 We agreed. But. . . 670 00:51:05,834 --> 00:51:08,995 You heard me, Grace. Go home! You can't dismiss me like that. 671 00:51:09,035 --> 00:51:11,548 What the hell. . . ? 672 00:51:11,588 --> 00:51:15,439 Go, Grace. I don't want to argue. Just go. 673 00:51:23,577 --> 00:51:25,093 So he was beaten? 674 00:51:25,133 --> 00:51:26,613 I don't know. 675 00:51:26,653 --> 00:51:28,371 But you suspect it. 676 00:51:28,411 --> 00:51:30,828 I honestly don't know. 677 00:51:33,805 --> 00:51:36,682 When I look at myself back then, I don't recognise myself. 678 00:51:36,722 --> 00:51:39,279 I was young, I was naive. . . Were you in love with Harry? 679 00:51:39,319 --> 00:51:43,395 What's that got to do with anything? Everything, if you compromise your professional integrity. 680 00:51:43,435 --> 00:51:49,186 Are you calling me a liar? I've known you a long time, Grace, and I've been doing this job even longer. 681 00:51:49,226 --> 00:51:51,973 I know this much - you're holding something back. 682 00:51:53,425 --> 00:51:55,981 Oh Grace, please. Come on. 683 00:51:56,021 --> 00:51:59,337 Grace, Grace, Grace. . . 684 00:51:59,377 --> 00:52:01,215 Grace, come on. 685 00:52:01,255 --> 00:52:04,082 What? Come with me. 686 00:52:15,123 --> 00:52:17,960 I want you to talk to him. 687 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,588 You're not serious. I am. 688 00:52:27,906 --> 00:52:30,223 I can't. Yes you can, Grace. Yes, you can. 689 00:52:30,263 --> 00:52:32,271 Now get in there and do it. 690 00:52:47,807 --> 00:52:49,687 OK, Stella, wait outside. 691 00:52:49,727 --> 00:52:51,450 Thank you. Spence. 692 00:53:09,544 --> 00:53:11,557 You know why I'm here. 693 00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:26,366 Grace, get out of there! 694 00:53:26,406 --> 00:53:29,163 What's the matter with you? 695 00:53:29,203 --> 00:53:30,721 Get out. Get out. 696 00:53:32,958 --> 00:53:34,918 What's the matter with you? 697 00:53:34,958 --> 00:53:38,154 Grace, when I put you in there, I had every good intention. . . I understand. . . 698 00:53:38,194 --> 00:53:40,908 psychologically why you put me in there, but as a friend. . . . 699 00:53:40,948 --> 00:53:44,226 As a friend, I wish you'd come clean with me and tell me what's going on! 700 00:53:44,266 --> 00:53:45,783 I mean, why does that man hate you so much? 701 00:53:45,823 --> 00:53:48,980 That's a bit obvious! Because my evidence helped put him away. 702 00:53:49,020 --> 00:53:52,738 Don't deal with that now. Talk to me! Sorry. Great. I'm sorry. 703 00:53:52,778 --> 00:53:55,730 I just don't want to talk about it, OK? 704 00:53:58,371 --> 00:54:00,384 OK. 705 00:54:13,196 --> 00:54:14,788 Oh, God. 706 00:54:17,070 --> 00:54:20,387 "This has gone to every newspaper in the country. " 707 00:54:20,427 --> 00:54:22,944 Put it on. 708 00:54:22,984 --> 00:54:25,981 What? What is it, mister? 709 00:54:26,021 --> 00:54:28,297 Did I do it wrong? 710 00:54:28,337 --> 00:54:31,130 MUFFLED CRIES 711 00:54:38,810 --> 00:54:41,166 MUFFLED PLEADING 712 00:54:41,206 --> 00:54:43,643 Oh, Jesus no. 713 00:54:43,683 --> 00:54:47,044 SCREAMING 714 00:55:05,379 --> 00:55:07,616 PHONES RING 715 00:55:07,656 --> 00:55:11,094 So now we're in the middle of a media storm. 716 00:55:11,134 --> 00:55:14,888 I've got the DNA results on the fingers that were sent to Grace. 717 00:55:14,928 --> 00:55:19,524 I confirm they did belong to Greene's victims. Why's no-one answering the phones? 718 00:55:19,564 --> 00:55:21,082 We've just had another Mpeg. 719 00:55:21,122 --> 00:55:23,949 PHONES CONTINUE RINGING 720 00:55:27,955 --> 00:55:30,537 I'll call this up in the lab. 721 00:55:34,106 --> 00:55:36,424 We're going to have to make a statement. 722 00:55:36,464 --> 00:55:38,784 No. I'm going to have to make a statement. 723 00:55:38,824 --> 00:55:41,141 We've got a bed list. There's over 100 names on the list. 724 00:55:41,181 --> 00:55:42,938 Could you deal with it, please? 725 00:55:42,978 --> 00:55:46,385 Yeah, right, a DA's really supposed to be. . . Deal with it! 726 00:55:51,292 --> 00:55:56,446 You're not going to tell them you've made a mistake? Even if you do admit you made a mistake. . . 727 00:55:58,563 --> 00:56:01,800 . . it doesn't mean that the boy isn't going to be killed. 728 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,507 No, but it might buy him some time. 729 00:56:07,752 --> 00:56:10,664 Grace. 730 00:56:12,266 --> 00:56:14,186 REPORTERS SHOUT: Dr Foley! 731 00:56:14,226 --> 00:56:16,222 Do you believe Tony Greene. . . ? 732 00:56:16,262 --> 00:56:18,884 ALL SHOUT AT ONCE 733 00:56:23,216 --> 00:56:25,373 I'd like to make a statement. 734 00:56:25,413 --> 00:56:29,924 I'm speaking directly to the kidnapper of Kevin Keogh. 735 00:56:32,409 --> 00:56:35,881 You want me to say Tony Greene was beaten in custody. 736 00:56:35,921 --> 00:56:38,121 I will say this - 737 00:56:38,161 --> 00:56:42,911 in my conscience, I do not know whether he was beaten or not. 738 00:56:44,396 --> 00:56:47,150 I'm removing myself from this investigation. 739 00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:49,186 So stop it. . . 740 00:56:49,226 --> 00:56:52,258 Stop hurting him. 741 00:56:54,461 --> 00:56:56,182 That's all. 742 00:56:56,222 --> 00:56:58,685 ALL SHOUT AT ONCE 743 00:57:55,955 --> 00:58:01,230 I don't understand you, Grace. Don't you want to help save the boy's life? No! Yes. 744 00:58:01,270 --> 00:58:02,708 Where is he? 745 00:58:02,748 --> 00:58:06,583 You told me to investigate you. Why hadn't you spoken to Harry? 746 00:58:06,623 --> 00:58:09,901 Was this him? I don't know! What do you mean! Is this him? ! 747 00:58:09,941 --> 00:58:12,218 Do you recognise this signature? 748 00:58:12,258 --> 00:58:16,054 It's Harry's. He blames you, Grace, for telling Harry his secrets. 749 00:58:16,094 --> 00:58:20,612 But I've never met him. Kevin, if you can you hear me, stay where you are! 750 00:58:20,652 --> 00:58:22,969 What has he done with the boy? 751 00:58:23,009 --> 00:58:26,325 Kevin. . . If you can hear this. . . 752 00:58:27,882 --> 00:58:29,850 . . hold on. 753 00:58:30,761 --> 00:58:38,761 Subtitles by BBC Broadcast - 2005 Conversion by reirei. 64011

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