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NARRATOR: Tonight on
"Unsolved Mysteries."
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[cocking gun]
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Get your hands on the ground.
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ROBERT STACK: In
1975, a notorious band
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of radicals known as the
SLA allegedly gunned down
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an innocent woman
during a bank heist.
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Finally, some 27 years
later, they're being brought
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to trial on murder charges.
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All except this man.
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Incredibly, Jim Kilgore
is still on the loose.
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Mike Tlusty and Laura Law
were together 11 years.
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Then, according to Laura,
Mike abruptly packed his bags
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and left.
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But after police questioned
her about Mike's whereabouts,
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Laura also vanished.
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What investigators found on the
property would shock everyone.
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A beautiful restored
Southern mansion
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is now a bed and breakfast.
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But many guests report
experiences that can only
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be described as supernatural.
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At least eight ghosts
were said to haunt
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the property, spirits
of adults and children
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who died of foul play.
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Pam Corrente's son was viciously
murdered by a street gang.
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Despite her tragic
loss, Pam refuses
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to be overwhelmed by grief.
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She is pursuing the
killers and fighting
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to rid her neighborhood of
gangs, once and for all.
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Perhaps someone watching
holds a key that will unlock
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the secrets of a mystery.
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Perhaps it's you.
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Join me for Unsolved Mysteries.
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[theme music playing]
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[theme music playing]
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April 21st, 1975.
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On that cool spring
morning, three volunteers
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from a local church in
Carmichael, California,
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a suburb of Sacramento, entered
the Crocker National Bank.
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The women had come to
deposit the collection
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from weekend services, when
suddenly they were surrounded.
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Authorities contend the four
armed robbers were members
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of the notorious
Symbionese Liberation Army,
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or SLA, a ragtag group
of power-hungry radicals
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who advocated the violent
overthrow of the US government.
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Get your hands on the ground!
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Get your heads down!
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Everyone on the floor.
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Get down, nobody gets hurt.
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Get down, lady!
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ROBERT STACK: The
shotgun-toting bank
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robber was especially
menacing, her manner
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as chilling as her words.
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Everyone on the floor!
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ROBERT STACK: Just 10 feet away,
42-year-old Myrna Opsahl froze.
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Then, the unimaginable happened.
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Lady, get down!
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[gunshot]
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[screaming]
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She was gunned
down in cold blood.
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JON OPSAHL, MD: My
mother evidently
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didn't move fast enough.
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The bank employees
pleaded with the robbers
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to come to her assistance, and
they shouted more obscenities,
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and threatened more
injury, and wouldn't let
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anyone come to her assistance.
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Get down.
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ROBERT STACK: The
bank robbers appeared
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to be following a script, every
word and movement precise.
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Get down!
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ELEANOR HUNTER: It was
very well-coordinated.
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Everybody had a role,
and at all times
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they were very conscious
of the time ticking.
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Fifty!
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ELEANOR HUNTER: At some
point, some of the tellers
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were grabbed, one
woman was kicked.
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So all of them
actually had weapons,
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and it was very, very violent.
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And all the time, Myrna
Opsahl was not dead yet.
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She laid on the ground,
and she literally
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bled to death on the ground.
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All the bank robbers
ran out of the bank
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to a car that was
waiting for them.
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ROBERT STACK: The driver
of the getaway car
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was 20-year-old newspaper
heiress Patty Hearst.
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She had been kidnapped by
the Symbionese Liberation
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Army some 14 months earlier.
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However, within weeks
of her abduction,
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Hearst assumed the
name Tania and declared
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herself a revolutionary.
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The SLA had a marquee name.
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But the search for Patty Hearst
also unleashed the biggest FBI
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manhunt since John Dillinger.
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The massive effort paid off.
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In September 1975, the SLA's
22-month reign of terror
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came to an end with
several arrests,
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including Patty Hearst.
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However, the story
was far from over.
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Eyewitnesses to the
Crocker bank heist
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and the murder of Myrna
Opsahl could not positively
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identify the assailants.
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24 long years had passed before
a stunning twist in the case
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led to murder indictments.
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All of the suspects involved
in the crime have been arrested
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and are awaiting
trial, except one.
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The FBI needs your
help to bring him in.
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His name, Jim Kilgore.
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[music playing]
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Jim Kilgore's odyssey
began nearly a year
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before the shooting at
Crocker National Bank.
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In the spring of 1974, at a
San Francisco drive-in theater
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Kilgore's girlfriend Kathy
Soliah introduced him to SLA
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kingpins Bill and Emily Harris.
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That's my boyfriend, Jim
Kilgore, and he's a great guy.
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ROBERT STACK: Kilgore
agreed to join the group.
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Smart and tough, he
was a prize catch.
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SPECIAL AGENT
LARRY A MEFFORD: He
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was born in Portland, Oregon.
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He was vice president
of his senior class,
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he participated in varsity
golf, he was on the high school
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basketball team.
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He was very athletic.
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He attended the University
of California Santa Barbara,
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graduating in 1969.
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During that time
period he became
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acquainted with Kathy Soliah.
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ROBERT STACK: Soliah
and Jim Kilgore
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were welcomed into the group's
small inner circle, where
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Kilgore reportedly
proved especially
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adept at creating false IDs.
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With the SLA on everyone's
most wanted list,
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he was kept plenty busy.
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We know that
members of this group
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would steal credit cards and
driver's licenses, for example,
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at local gymnasiums,
and other health clubs.
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We know that they engaged
in special missions
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to steal existing
identifications.
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ROBERT STACK: In
the fall of 1974,
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the SLA convened at a safe
house in a quiet neighborhood
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of Sacramento.
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We've come up with a new
structure for this group.
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ROBERT STACK: With a small
but faithful army gathered
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around him, Bill Harris
allegedly laid out his plan
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to escalate the SLA'S
violent revolution
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against the US government.
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We're gonna need
money to fund--
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ROBERT STACK: But anarchy
came with a price,
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and robbing banks offered
the quick cash needed
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to further the group's agenda.
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According to police,
in late February 1975,
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SLA members held up the Guild
Savings and Loan in Sacramento.
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Allegedly, the point man in
the heist was Jim Kilgore.
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MICHAEL LATIN: He was a
central member of the group.
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He was not peripheral,
he was actively
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involved in the
violence, he embraced it.
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And you know, that bank
robbery was a violent act.
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He was right there
inside the bank.
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ROBERT STACK: Two months
later, on April 21st, 1975,
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Emily Harris, Michael Bortin,
Kathy Soliah, and Jim Kilgore
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reportedly executed
the daring holdup
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at Crocker National Bank.
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Get on the floor!
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ROBERT STACK: Killing customer
Myrna Opsahl, a mother of four.
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[gunshot]
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Allegedly Emily Harris
fired the fatal blast.
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JON OPSAHL, MD: They all
stormed the bank knowing someone
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could get hurt.
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What was their backup
plan at that point?
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Well, they all chose to let
my mother lie on the floor
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and bleed to death,
and didn't let
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people come to her assistance.
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ROBERT STACK: The robbers
netted more than $15,000.
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According to police, Bill
Harris was the mastermind
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behind the heist.
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MICHAEL LATIN: The SLA
changed modes, essentially,
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after killing Myrna
Opsahl and taking
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the money that they got
from robbing the bank
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and killing her.
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They now were looking to
place bombs in locations that
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were targeted to kill people.
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They seemed to be more hungry
to take other human lives,
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and that's what
they set out to do.
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ROBERT STACK: By
the summer of 1975,
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investigators say the
operation had shifted
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to San Francisco, where
SLA members worked
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odd jobs painting houses.
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In their spare time, they
allegedly planted pipe bombs.
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Then in late August,
Kathy Soliah, Bill Harris,
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and Jim Kilgore made the 375
mile trek south of Los Angeles,
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reportedly to
create more carnage.
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Authorities believed
they were hauling
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an arsenal of deadly explosives
in the back of the car.
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MICHAEL LATIN: Most
of them were pipe
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bombs, using either two inch or
three inch pipe, which is big.
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The pipe bombs used in Los
Angeles were three inch pipe,
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and those are very
substantial bombs.
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They filled those pipe
bombs with concrete nails,
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and with gunpowder.
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ROBERT STACK: When
in Los Angeles,
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Jim Kilgore and the
other SLA members
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allegedly planted a pipe bomb
beneath an LAPD patrol car.
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But the triggering
mechanism malfunctioned,
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and the officer narrowly
escaped serious injury or death.
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Authorities say it was
not an isolated incident.
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MICHAEL LATIN: A
call then went out
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to all the other police
cars in the county,
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check under your vehicles.
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And sure enough, an officer
with Hollenbeck division
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went out and checked
underneath all the vehicles,
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and found an identical device
under one of the cars there.
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ROBERT STACK: Over
the next few days,
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Harris, Soliah, and Kilgore
returned to San Francisco
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to rejoin their comrades.
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But the heat was on.
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FBI agents acting on a
tip finally got a break.
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The owner of several
apartment buildings
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recognized some
house painters he had
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recently hired as SLA members.
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Kinda looks like one of the
guys over in the Pacifica unit.
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ROBERT STACK: Within hours,
Jim Kilgore and the others
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were under surveillance.
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The next morning, September
18th, 1975, agents
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followed one of the suspects to
a safe house on Precita Avenue.
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So they started to
watch Precita address,
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and from watching
the Precita address,
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they see Bill Harris and Emily
Harris coming out of the house.
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ROBERT STACK: When the
Harris's returned from jogging,
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they were confronted
by FBI agents
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carrying guns and handcuffs.
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You're under arrest.
Put your hands in the air.
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Turn around, close the door.
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SPECIAL AGENT LARRY A MEFFORD:
About an hour after that,
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having identified a second
safe house in San Francisco,
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agents and members of the San
Francisco Police Department
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raided a second location
in San Francisco.
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And during that raid, they
apprehended Patty Hearst.
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ROBERT STACK: 592 days after
being abducted at gunpoint,
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Patty Hearst's days
on the lam ended.
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The high profile
arrests of Hearst,
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and Bill and Emily
Harris, instantly
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hit radio and television
broadcasts nationwide.
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Meanwhile that dragnet closed
in on Kathy Soliah and Jim
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Kilgore, who
authorities now believed
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were painting a home
in nearby Pacifica.
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SPECIAL AGENT LARRY A MEFFORD:
They raided that house
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later that afternoon.
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And when they
showed up the house,
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all the remnants of the
painting-- the buckets
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of paint and the
paint brushes-- were
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just left drying in the room.
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A radio was on with
a all-news station.
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REPORTER: (ON RADIO) A
49-year-old unidentified man--
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ROBERT STACK: Kathy
Soliah and Jim Kilgore
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had simply vanished.
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When agents searched Kilgore's
apartment that afternoon,
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they found boxes of
bomb making materials.
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The evidence, FBI lab
technicians later determined,
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positively linked Kilgore
to the SLA crime spree.
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ELEANOR HUNTER:
At that location,
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they found a fully-manufactured
bomb similar to the bombs that
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were placed under the
police cars in Los Angeles,
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and also up in San Francisco.
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When they inspected that bomb,
they found his fingerprint.
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It was a very good
break for law enforcement,
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because it allowed
us to charge James
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Kilgore with a serious offense.
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ROBERT STACK: Still no
charges have been filed
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in the murder of Myrna Opsahl.
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However, some 24 years
later, in June 1999,
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Kathy Soliah was arrested in an
upscale Minnesota suburb, where
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she had been living
as a homemaker
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and community activist under
the alias Sara Jane Olson.
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Olson was brought to
Los Angeles to stand
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trial for planting explosives
under a police car in 1975.
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Her testimony, and new
advances in forensic science,
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led Sacramento district attorney
Jan Scully to re-examine
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the Opsahl murder case.
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The state of
the evidence today
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has convinced me now
is the time to seek
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justice for Myrna Opsahl.
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JON OPSAHL, MD: I still
miss my mother intensely,
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and she's missing out on
the best years of her life,
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and her grandkids and all.
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But this isn't about
revenge or paybacks,
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it's just a matter of justice.
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They chose to do this, and they
need to be held accountable.
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ROBERT STACK: SLA members Bill
Harris, Emily Harris, Michael
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Bortin, Kathy Soliah,
and Jim Kilgore
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have all been
indicted in the case.
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Under the felony
murder rule, they're
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all potentially responsible
for the death of Myrna Opsahl.
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Patty Hearst, who had been
granted immunity in exchange
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for her testimony
about the shooting,
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is expected to be the
prosecution's star witness.
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No date has been
set for the trial.
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Now the only missing
suspect is Jim Kilgore,
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he's still on the loose.
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ELEANOR HUNTER: The
heat has definitely
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been turned up more and
more, throughout the course
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of the last 2 and 1/2
years, for Mr. Kilgore.
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So I'm sure he's probably
looking over his shoulder
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a little bit more every day.
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ROBERT STACK: This is a
picture of Jim Kilgore in 1975
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at age 27.
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Kilgore is now in his mid-50s.
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Authorities believe
he has used as
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many as 13 different
aliases, and he may
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have altered his appearance.
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[music playing]
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[music playing]
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[interposing voices]
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ROBERT STACK: Laura Law and
her boyfriend of 11 years,
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Mike Tlusty,
enjoyed entertaining
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in their Arkdale,
Wisconsin home.
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Denise Piccioni and her
husband were often guests.
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Don't we want to go to Vegas?
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We so want to go to Vegas.
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Every year we do
what you want to do.
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ROBERT STACK: Denise
was Mike's cousin,
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and Laura's best friend.
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DENISE PICCIONI: Laura was
just a wonderful person.
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She had wonderful
family dinners,
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and she was good to Mike.
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I saw Mike very happy.
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I never saw them argue
or fight, and they
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were a lot of fun to be with.
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- Where is it?
- Calm down.
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Where is the money, huh?
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We're almost broke.
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ROBERT STACK: However,
one night in March 2001,
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Mike Tlusty was ready to argue
when he tracked Laura down
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at a nearby casino, where
she had gone to gamble
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with Denise and her mother.
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[interposing voices]
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Denise, Marie.
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I got to go.
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What's wrong.
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Mike showed up.
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He's in the truck, he's so
upset, he wants me to go.
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Laura, look at me.
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What happened?
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DENISE PICCIONI: She was just
trembling, she was shaking.
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And I said, well, what's wrong?
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And she said, I don't know.
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He's depressed,
something's wrong with him,
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we've got to go.
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You guys stay and
have a good time.
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Will you call me?
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Yeah, tomorrow.
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I'll call you tomorrow.
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DENISE PICCIONI: And
I said, you know,
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Ma, something's
just not right here,
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because he doesn't get mad.
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He doesn't have a temper.
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Well, he has a temper,
but he usually says what
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he needs to say, and it's over.
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ROBERT STACK: After
that night, Mike Tlusty
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would never be seen again.
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According to friends and family,
Mike's behavior in the casino
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may indeed have been
out of character.
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But for him to completely
avoid contact with them
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was incomprehensible.
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Strangely, however, one
person would claim to know
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were Mike went--
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his longtime
girlfriend Laura Law.
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Ultimately she too,
would disappear.
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Mike, please don't go.
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ROBERT STACK: When they
returned from the casino,
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Laura said Mike
packed some clothes
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and $73,000 in
cash, which she said
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came from the graphics
business they owned.
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He then set out on foot
from their rural home
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in the middle of the night.
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DENISE PICCIONI: I said that's
so strange, he left on foot?
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And she said, yeah.
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And I said, Laura, why would
he leave all of his vehicles.
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I said this doesn't
make any sense.
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And she said, well, I think
he had a trucker pick him up.
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He's my cousin, he's like
the sweetest guy in the world.
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Why would he just disappear?
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That's what I want to know.
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DENISE PICCIONI: I
thought she was lying,
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but I thought she was trying
to cover her embarrassment.
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Maybe he said I'm leaving
you for another woman.
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Well, we had that big
fight the first night.
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DENISE PICCIONI: I
thought, I need to give her
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the benefit of the doubt,
because we truly loved
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her as a family member, also.
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I didn't want to actually take
sides with either one of them.
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And then two weeks after Mike
disappeared, she called me up,
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and she goes, well, he just
called, and he's out West.
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And I said, well,
when's he coming home?
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She goes, well, I asked him,
are you to come home yet?
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And he said no.
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ROBERT STACK: Four months
passed, and there was
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still no sign of Mike Tlusty.
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But because Mike and Laura
ran their own business,
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few knew Mike was gone.
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By mid-summer though,
Denise insisted
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Laura talk to Mike's family.
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They had still not
been told about
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his strange disappearance.
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00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,975
I'm gonna tell them
that he's on an extended
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fishing trip in Winnipeg.
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00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:07,547
What?
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DENISE PICCIONI: And I said,
this has gone on too long.
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If this was my son, I would be
furious that somebody didn't
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tell me that he's been missing.
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00:19:12,885 --> 00:19:14,321
I don't want to worry them.
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00:19:14,354 --> 00:19:16,389
I don't care, you've got
to tell them, all right?
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00:19:19,058 --> 00:19:20,827
Oh, all right, OK.
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I'll tell them the truth.
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ROBERT STACK: To Denise's shock,
Laura lied to Mike's mother
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anyway, and told her that
Mike had gone to Canada.
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It was so bizarre.
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That scared me.
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It scared me that she would
be so underhanded to plot,
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and say, this is what
we're going to say.
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ROBERT STACK: With her
suspicions now aroused,
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Denise recalled other
instances of Laura's
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increasingly bizarre behavior.
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Hello?
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Hi, this is Denise.
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00:19:52,925 --> 00:19:54,527
Oh, hi Denise.
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I'm going to come today
and get my snowmobiles, OK?
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Uh, well, sure, but
I don't have the keys.
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ROBERT STACK:
Denise's snowmobiles
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were stored in a shed in
Mike and Laura's backyard.
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And Laura seemed determined to
prevent anyone from entering
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the padlocked shed.
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I don't know what's
going on with you,
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but for the past three
weeks, every time
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I've called about
the snowmobiles
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you have some other reason
why I can't come get them.
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DENISE PICCIONI: I said
Laura, if you don't have
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the snowmobiles
out of that shed,
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I'm coming with a locksmith,
and I'll replace the locks,
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and pay for it, and give
you new keys and new locks.
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I said, but I need
my snowmobiles.
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00:20:29,829 --> 00:20:32,064
I don't know what making
such a big deal about this for.
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Because you put me
through the wringer trying
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00:20:33,666 --> 00:20:34,834
to get these snowmobiles.
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00:20:34,867 --> 00:20:36,469
I'm telling you something,
if that shed isn't open,
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I'm going to break it open.
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00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:39,171
Denise.
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ROBERT STACK: Laura had removed
the snowmobiles by herself,
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but she was still
preventing anyone
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00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:45,678
else from entering the shed.
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00:20:45,712 --> 00:20:48,080
The thought now
crossed Denise's mind,
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could something to do
with Mike's disappearance
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be hidden in the shed?
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DENISE PICCIONI:
That was the straw
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that broke the camel's back.
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I called Mike's brother, and
I said, Mark, we have to talk.
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I said, something's wrong.
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00:21:02,128 --> 00:21:04,897
Something's terrible wrong.
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00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:07,367
ROBERT STACK: Four months
after Mike Tlusty disappeared,
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Mark Tlusty filed a
missing person's report
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with the local authorities.
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MARK TLUSTY: Because of the
way the stories weren't jiving,
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and things didn't add up,
and no one's heard from him,
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I didn't hesitate at all.
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And he left everything, and that
also made me very suspicious
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that something happened to him.
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ROBERT STACK: The case
was ultimately assigned
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to investigator Gary Silka.
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00:21:32,191 --> 00:21:33,059
Did you find anything?
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00:21:33,092 --> 00:21:34,193
No.
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00:21:34,226 --> 00:21:35,795
GARY SILKA: Laura seemed
to be very cooperative
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00:21:35,828 --> 00:21:37,397
the day that we were there.
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She also invited me to
look around on the property
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if I desired.
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00:21:41,233 --> 00:21:42,869
What do you normally
keep in the shed?
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00:21:42,902 --> 00:21:44,136
Oh, we usually--
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GARY SILKA: Laura through
a roadblock in front of me
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when I asked to go
into that building.
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00:21:48,741 --> 00:21:50,643
Can we take a look?
477
00:21:50,677 --> 00:21:53,513
Well, actually I
cleared all of that stuff
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00:21:53,546 --> 00:21:56,683
out a couple months ago
so that I could rent it.
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00:21:56,716 --> 00:21:57,817
Do you have a key?
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00:21:57,850 --> 00:22:00,953
Oh no, the man I
rented it to has the key.
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00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:02,088
You don't have a spare?
482
00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:04,457
Oh no, but I couldn't
let you in there anyway.
483
00:22:04,491 --> 00:22:06,058
And what's his name?
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00:22:06,092 --> 00:22:07,860
George.
485
00:22:07,894 --> 00:22:10,029
George Giuliani.
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GARY SILKA: Laura agreed to make
arrangements for Mr. Giuliani
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to drive up to the
Arkdale property,
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and then meet law enforcement
so we could continue
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the search inside the shed.
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ROBERT STACK:
Authorities now believe
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that within hours of being
questioned by investigators,
492
00:22:25,011 --> 00:22:27,814
Laura Law hastily fled her home.
493
00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:29,582
Her whereabouts are
still not known.
494
00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:35,087
It would take several more
months of investigation
495
00:22:35,121 --> 00:22:37,123
before Gary Silka
was granted a search
496
00:22:37,156 --> 00:22:39,692
warrant for the property.
497
00:22:39,726 --> 00:22:43,730
On January 22nd, 2002,
investigators finally
498
00:22:43,763 --> 00:22:46,298
entered the mystery shed.
499
00:22:46,332 --> 00:22:49,368
GARY SILKA: The minute that we
stepped inside, I could smell
500
00:22:49,402 --> 00:22:52,138
the strong, pungent odor of
what I believed to be that
501
00:22:52,171 --> 00:22:55,708
of a decomposing human body.
502
00:22:55,742 --> 00:22:58,244
ROBERT STACK: In the near empty
shed, under several pieces
503
00:22:58,277 --> 00:23:01,881
of wood, and covered in a
blanket and plastic wrapping,
504
00:23:01,914 --> 00:23:06,052
police found the decomposed
body of Mike Tlusty.
505
00:23:06,085 --> 00:23:10,189
He had been dead between
nine and 10 months.
506
00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:13,793
The autopsy showed
cause of death
507
00:23:13,826 --> 00:23:16,362
was attributed to a
single gunshot wound
508
00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:19,265
to the back of
the victim's head.
509
00:23:19,298 --> 00:23:23,169
Several years before
the incident, Laura Law
510
00:23:23,202 --> 00:23:26,305
had purchased a 9
millimeter handgun.
511
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:28,641
We believe that
that is the weapon
512
00:23:28,675 --> 00:23:34,514
that was used in the
homicide of Michael Tluty.
513
00:23:34,547 --> 00:23:35,882
ROBERT STACK:
Despite the evidence,
514
00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:38,250
those who knew them are
stunned to conclude Laura
515
00:23:38,284 --> 00:23:40,352
had murdered Mike.
516
00:23:40,386 --> 00:23:41,921
DENISE PICCIONI: I was
with her for 11 years,
517
00:23:41,954 --> 00:23:43,723
and I thought she was
a wonderful person.
518
00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:45,291
Is it the best?
519
00:23:45,324 --> 00:23:46,859
DENISE PICCIONI: Did
I know her at all?
520
00:23:46,893 --> 00:23:49,295
Is Laura the one that
we had so much fun
521
00:23:49,328 --> 00:23:50,229
with, and did things with?
522
00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:51,263
Is that Laura?
523
00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:54,467
Or is this Laura the
one that shot him?
524
00:23:54,501 --> 00:23:56,503
Who is Laura?
525
00:23:56,536 --> 00:23:58,805
It's unbelievable.
526
00:23:58,838 --> 00:23:59,939
What happened?
527
00:23:59,972 --> 00:24:03,409
That's bottom line,
what happened?
528
00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:08,481
I'm almost sure that she
has a gambling problem.
529
00:24:08,515 --> 00:24:12,084
And I think that's probably
what triggered this.
530
00:24:12,118 --> 00:24:13,252
- We're about broke.
- Mike.
531
00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:14,286
Where is it?
532
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,688
GARY SILKA: Michael
may have told her
533
00:24:15,722 --> 00:24:20,259
that enough was enough, and that
she needed to consider leaving.
534
00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:23,162
And Laura didn't want to
leave that relationship,
535
00:24:23,195 --> 00:24:26,599
and didn't want to leave
the life as she knew it.
536
00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:36,676
[music playing]
537
00:24:36,676 --> 00:24:45,051
[music playing]
538
00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:55,194
ROBERT STACK: A summer
lightning storm thunders
539
00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:58,430
over St. Francisville,
Louisiana, illuminating
540
00:24:58,464 --> 00:25:00,499
the Myrtles Plantation.
541
00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:03,235
The Myrtles is an
infamous, 200-year-old
542
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:05,337
antebellum mansion.
543
00:25:05,371 --> 00:25:08,474
Converted to a bed and
breakfast decades ago,
544
00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:12,078
it claims to be one of
America's most haunted houses.
545
00:25:12,111 --> 00:25:17,884
[creaking]
546
00:25:17,917 --> 00:25:22,755
[gunshots]
547
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:27,326
Shooting, poisoning,
lynching are just a few
548
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,062
of the deadly means by which
the ghosts of the Myrtles
549
00:25:30,096 --> 00:25:32,699
met their mortal demise.
550
00:25:32,732 --> 00:25:36,002
At least eight people
died violent deaths here,
551
00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:39,338
and legend has it their
spirits remain on the premises,
552
00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:43,910
appearing regularly to
guests and staff alike.
553
00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:47,379
I've had enough happen to let
me know that other people live
554
00:25:47,413 --> 00:25:48,781
here that we can't always see.
555
00:25:48,815 --> 00:25:50,016
[thunder]
556
00:25:51,317 --> 00:25:52,719
ROBERT STACK: Perhaps
the Myrtles plantation
557
00:25:52,752 --> 00:25:55,287
was destined to be haunted.
558
00:25:55,321 --> 00:25:58,925
Legend has it that in 1796, the
original owner, General David
559
00:25:58,958 --> 00:26:00,960
Bradford built
the house directly
560
00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:04,296
on top of an ancient
Indian burial ground.
561
00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:05,932
Since that time,
literally hundreds
562
00:26:05,965 --> 00:26:08,935
of sightings of the
unexplained have occurred.
563
00:26:08,968 --> 00:26:11,738
Could spirits be
haunting the plantation?
564
00:26:11,771 --> 00:26:14,506
Thousands believe they are.
565
00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:15,341
[thunder]
566
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:20,947
This mysterious
mansion is said to be
567
00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:23,582
a window into the supernatural.
568
00:26:23,616 --> 00:26:26,485
Guests here are well-aware
of the possibility
569
00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:28,354
of having a ghostly encounter.
570
00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:31,791
I guess I have to say I really
didn't believe that there were
571
00:26:31,824 --> 00:26:35,762
actually ghosts,
or spirits there,
572
00:26:35,795 --> 00:26:38,064
that it was just
folklore and legend.
573
00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:39,999
And it wasn't until
I was already in
574
00:26:40,032 --> 00:26:42,769
that things began to
happen that convinced
575
00:26:42,802 --> 00:26:44,503
me that, yes, they are here.
576
00:26:44,536 --> 00:26:46,505
But by then, it was
too late, financially
577
00:26:46,538 --> 00:26:48,407
I couldn't afford to be scared.
578
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,241
[thunder]
579
00:26:52,311 --> 00:26:54,847
ROBERT STACK: When Amy Campbell
and her friend Michelle
580
00:26:54,881 --> 00:26:58,184
came to stay at the
B&B last October 30,
581
00:26:58,217 --> 00:27:00,953
they were well-informed
of its ghostly past.
582
00:27:00,987 --> 00:27:03,222
AMY CAMPBELL: We
were very hesitant
583
00:27:03,255 --> 00:27:05,424
if we were going to stay all
night, because we had heard
584
00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:07,326
that the place was haunted.
585
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,728
We had heard that
there were ghosts
586
00:27:08,761 --> 00:27:13,432
that visit people at night, that
tuck you in, fix your clothes.
587
00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:17,436
We weren't sure we wanted
to experience any of that.
588
00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:20,807
I obviously was sleeping
for a little while,
589
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,712
and I woke up feeling
bouncing on the end of my bed.
590
00:27:25,745 --> 00:27:28,514
And I saw a little girl
jumping on the end of my bed.
591
00:27:28,547 --> 00:27:29,749
And I thought,
surely I'm dreaming,
592
00:27:29,782 --> 00:27:31,784
and I stuck my head
back under the covers.
593
00:27:31,818 --> 00:27:33,753
It kept bouncing, and
bouncing, and bouncing,
594
00:27:33,786 --> 00:27:35,187
it felt like forever.
595
00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:37,056
And all of sudden it stopped.
596
00:27:37,089 --> 00:27:39,091
And I looked back at
the little girl that was
597
00:27:39,125 --> 00:27:42,661
jumping on the bed was gone.
598
00:27:42,695 --> 00:27:44,463
[laughing]
599
00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:45,798
ROBERT STACK: The
child ghost is thought
600
00:27:45,832 --> 00:27:48,200
to be a Cornelia
Woodruff, one of four
601
00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:53,973
people who died in a tragic
set of events 175 years ago.
602
00:27:54,006 --> 00:27:55,641
Cornelia was the
daughter of Judge
603
00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:59,779
Woodruff, whose family lived at
the Myrtles in the early 1800s.
604
00:27:59,812 --> 00:28:01,748
On the Woodruff's
house slave Chloe
605
00:28:01,781 --> 00:28:04,116
was caught eavesdropping
on the judge,
606
00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:06,318
he was compelled to punish her.
607
00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:08,287
This is the third
time I've caught you.
608
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,355
I wasn't listening, I mean it.
609
00:28:09,388 --> 00:28:10,790
I will not tolerate this.
610
00:28:10,823 --> 00:28:11,724
Oh Sir, please no.
611
00:28:11,758 --> 00:28:13,692
This time, you
will be punished.
612
00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:14,526
[crying]
613
00:28:15,762 --> 00:28:19,999
ROBERT STACK: The judge
had Chloe's ear cut off.
614
00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:23,369
Fearful of also being sent to
the fields to do hard labor,
615
00:28:23,402 --> 00:28:26,773
Chloe made a plan.
616
00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:29,375
She decided to grind
poisonous oleander leaves
617
00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:32,511
into a birthday cake, hoping
to make the family ill,
618
00:28:32,544 --> 00:28:35,948
then she would endear herself
by nursing them back to health.
619
00:28:35,982 --> 00:28:38,717
I baked your favorite
cake, Ms. Sara.
620
00:28:38,751 --> 00:28:39,986
HESTER EBY: She may
have thought she
621
00:28:40,019 --> 00:28:43,522
was boiling just enough oleander
to make the family sick.
622
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:46,793
Already knowing what was wrong,
she would take care of them,
623
00:28:46,826 --> 00:28:51,030
be the hero, and be left in the
household to take care of them.
624
00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:54,200
ROBERT STACK: But
Chloe's scheme backfired.
625
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:57,069
Young Cornelia, her
mother, and sister, all
626
00:28:57,103 --> 00:28:59,972
died from the poison.
627
00:29:00,006 --> 00:29:01,640
HESTER EBY: A lot of us
want to know what happened
628
00:29:01,673 --> 00:29:04,576
to Chloe after the poisoning.
629
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:07,279
It's believed that she
was killed by a mixed mob.
630
00:29:07,313 --> 00:29:09,448
Black and whites were
probably together.
631
00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:11,617
Of course, the other slaves
were probably afraid of what
632
00:29:11,650 --> 00:29:13,519
was going to happen to them.
633
00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:19,625
She was supposedly beaten, and
then thrown into the river.
634
00:29:19,658 --> 00:29:22,094
ROBERT STACK: It is said that
Cornelia, along with her mother
635
00:29:22,128 --> 00:29:26,799
and sister, have joined Chloe
in eternally haunting the house.
636
00:29:26,833 --> 00:29:28,134
[laughter]
637
00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:29,535
[thunder]
638
00:29:31,938 --> 00:29:36,843
I think I've been frightened
more in the day than at night.
639
00:29:36,876 --> 00:29:38,945
ROBERT STACK: Arlin Dease
owned and restored Myrtles
640
00:29:38,978 --> 00:29:41,914
Plantation over 30 years ago.
641
00:29:41,948 --> 00:29:45,451
He remembers his first
ethereal encounter very well.
642
00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:49,288
It was 1970, and he was
mowing the North Lawn.
643
00:29:49,321 --> 00:29:51,457
ARLIN DEASE: First of all,
I never thought that I
644
00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:53,826
would see any type of ghost.
645
00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:56,195
It was in the afternoon,
approximately four
646
00:29:56,228 --> 00:29:57,964
or five o'clock.
647
00:29:57,997 --> 00:30:03,102
And as I was mowing,
I simply looked up,
648
00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:07,739
and there was this vision.
649
00:30:07,773 --> 00:30:12,311
And then with a blink
of an eye, it was gone.
650
00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:15,882
Well, needless to say, there's
a chill factor that comes
651
00:30:15,915 --> 00:30:20,419
over one when that occurs.
652
00:30:20,452 --> 00:30:22,021
ROBERT STACK: The
vision Arlin saw
653
00:30:22,054 --> 00:30:24,891
is said to be the ghost of
the elderly caretaker who
654
00:30:24,924 --> 00:30:30,096
was robbed and killed
on the estate in 1927.
655
00:30:30,129 --> 00:30:30,997
[thunder]
656
00:30:33,565 --> 00:30:35,534
Three years ago, Mark
and Holly Parenti
657
00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:38,404
spent a frightening
night at the Myrtles
658
00:30:38,437 --> 00:30:40,639
Back then, Mark had
been reluctant to visit,
659
00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:42,508
but knew his wife
would be intrigued
660
00:30:42,541 --> 00:30:44,576
by the hotel's history.
661
00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:48,714
It's known as one of the most
haunted plantations in America,
662
00:30:48,747 --> 00:30:51,717
and I wasn't looking
forward to finding out why.
663
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:52,784
Come right up.
664
00:30:52,818 --> 00:30:53,819
It's a great house.
665
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:55,487
It is, it's a beautiful house.
666
00:30:55,521 --> 00:30:56,889
Hester, the tour
guide came out,
667
00:30:56,923 --> 00:30:59,025
and she says, you know,
welcome to the Myrtles.
668
00:30:59,058 --> 00:31:00,993
Oh, and by the way, you're
the only guests here tonight.
669
00:31:01,027 --> 00:31:01,894
Really?
670
00:31:01,928 --> 00:31:03,629
Yes.
671
00:31:03,662 --> 00:31:05,464
Come on, don't worry about that.
672
00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:06,966
Tell him he's fine.
673
00:31:06,999 --> 00:31:10,903
It was scary, the thought
of being in this haunted house
674
00:31:10,937 --> 00:31:14,974
by ourselves, no one else
in here, was very scary.
675
00:31:15,007 --> 00:31:18,010
More probably to Mark than
me, but I was scared too.
676
00:31:18,044 --> 00:31:19,111
ROBERT STACK:
Perhaps the Parentis
677
00:31:19,145 --> 00:31:21,047
had reason to be nervous.
678
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,918
A former Myrtle's owner is said
to haunt that very staircase.
679
00:31:25,952 --> 00:31:29,021
Mark and Holly's room was
just beyond that same flight
680
00:31:29,055 --> 00:31:31,090
of stairs.
681
00:31:31,123 --> 00:31:33,292
MARK PARENTI: My mind had
gotten to me a little bit,
682
00:31:33,325 --> 00:31:36,695
because I wouldn't let
her turn the lights off.
683
00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,064
So we're laying
in bed, and she's
684
00:31:38,097 --> 00:31:41,533
sort of having a nervous
chit chat, and what I heard
685
00:31:41,567 --> 00:31:45,171
was a very deep sounding bang.
686
00:31:45,204 --> 00:31:48,307
It sounds like
someone's on the steps.
687
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:50,943
MARK PARENTI: As soon as I
heard that noise, you know,
688
00:31:50,977 --> 00:31:52,211
the adrenaline rush.
689
00:31:52,244 --> 00:31:54,080
I'm gonna go.
690
00:31:54,113 --> 00:31:56,248
No, no, Holly, stay here.
691
00:31:56,282 --> 00:31:57,416
Oh come on.
692
00:31:57,449 --> 00:31:58,317
No.
693
00:31:58,350 --> 00:31:59,585
I wanna look.
694
00:31:59,618 --> 00:32:01,720
HOLLY PARENTI: If I
had to venture a guess,
695
00:32:01,753 --> 00:32:04,323
it sounded like footsteps.
696
00:32:04,356 --> 00:32:06,993
ROBERT STACK: The reason for the
murder of a prominent homeowner
697
00:32:07,026 --> 00:32:09,661
remains a mystery.
698
00:32:09,695 --> 00:32:11,597
Winners?
699
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:13,399
William Winners!
700
00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:16,168
ROBERT STACK: It was
late one night in 1871,
701
00:32:16,202 --> 00:32:18,204
when a mysterious
horseman appeared
702
00:32:18,237 --> 00:32:20,539
on the Myrtles' front lawn.
703
00:32:20,572 --> 00:32:22,008
Who's there?
704
00:32:22,041 --> 00:32:24,010
MAN: Are you William Winters?
705
00:32:24,043 --> 00:32:25,277
Yes, I'm William Winters.
706
00:32:25,311 --> 00:32:29,815
[gunshots]
707
00:32:29,848 --> 00:32:33,119
[neighing]
708
00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:36,955
HESTER EBY: Whoever was
there shot him in the chest.
709
00:32:36,989 --> 00:32:38,790
He made it back to
the double doors,
710
00:32:38,824 --> 00:32:41,793
trying to reach his wife
Sarah, she was upstairs.
711
00:32:41,827 --> 00:32:43,195
Sarah!
712
00:32:43,229 --> 00:32:46,032
Sarah!
713
00:32:46,065 --> 00:32:47,899
No, William.
714
00:32:47,933 --> 00:32:50,536
HESTER EBY: He only made
it to the 17th step.
715
00:32:50,569 --> 00:32:52,004
Oh no.
716
00:32:52,038 --> 00:32:53,439
No.
717
00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:56,342
William, William!
718
00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:59,945
HESTER EBY: He died
there in her arms.
719
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:02,248
I wish someone would
be able to explain it,
720
00:33:02,281 --> 00:33:04,083
other than the
story that I heard,
721
00:33:04,116 --> 00:33:08,620
but I can't tell you
for sure what it was.
722
00:33:08,654 --> 00:33:11,723
All I know was that
it was enough for me.
723
00:33:11,757 --> 00:33:14,526
You know, it was enough for
me to make me want to leave.
724
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,128
In a way, I think we
were both hoping it might
725
00:33:16,162 --> 00:33:18,097
have been our imagination.
726
00:33:18,130 --> 00:33:20,166
But it definitely wasn't.
727
00:33:20,199 --> 00:33:20,999
[thunder]
728
00:33:24,436 --> 00:33:26,638
ROBERT STACK: For all who
venture to Myrtles Plantation
729
00:33:26,672 --> 00:33:30,476
for a glimpse of the hereafter,
perhaps they should take advice
730
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,878
from those who have
actually braved the halls
731
00:33:32,911 --> 00:33:35,381
of this haunted house.
732
00:33:35,414 --> 00:33:38,016
There are certain times
that I'm uncomfortable
733
00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:42,721
here, certain times that, yeah,
you could say I get the creeps.
734
00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:47,626
I can't explain it, it's no
certain hour, it's just times.
735
00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:51,163
You can walk in, and as I said
before, you can feel a sadness.
736
00:33:51,197 --> 00:33:53,265
Or you can walk
in, and you hear--
737
00:33:53,299 --> 00:33:56,602
especially upstairs-- footsteps,
you know you hear them.
738
00:33:56,635 --> 00:33:58,204
Someone is right behind you.
739
00:33:58,237 --> 00:34:00,506
You can stop, the
footsteps stop.
740
00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:06,545
Once you have the encounter,
and you feel the sensation,
741
00:34:06,578 --> 00:34:12,151
you will know that their
intention is not to harm you.
742
00:34:12,184 --> 00:34:14,820
They are truly here
to protect you.
743
00:34:14,853 --> 00:34:17,089
They protect this home.
744
00:34:17,123 --> 00:34:19,458
This is their station,
this is their life,
745
00:34:19,491 --> 00:34:20,792
this is where they live.
746
00:34:24,930 --> 00:34:27,366
Is the Myrtles
Plantation truly haunted?
747
00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:30,001
They can't say for sure, but
our production crew certainly
748
00:34:30,035 --> 00:34:31,570
had more than their
share of unexplained
749
00:34:31,603 --> 00:34:33,572
technical difficulties.
750
00:34:33,605 --> 00:34:35,374
Electrical equipment,
including cameras,
751
00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:39,178
cell phones, and walkie talkies,
constantly malfunctioned.
752
00:34:39,211 --> 00:34:41,247
Were these just
mysterious mishaps,
753
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,016
or ghostly intervention?
754
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:50,822
[theme music playing]
755
00:34:50,856 --> 00:34:54,059
The tetanus shots,
those are what hurt.
756
00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:57,229
ROBERT STACK: For Pam Corrente,
it was just another day
757
00:34:57,263 --> 00:35:00,299
of running errands in her quiet,
working class neighborhood
758
00:35:00,332 --> 00:35:03,735
of Freeport, New York.
759
00:35:03,769 --> 00:35:07,005
As Pam was driving her
teenage son to the doctor,
760
00:35:07,038 --> 00:35:10,442
she saw what appeared to
be a terrible car accident.
761
00:35:10,476 --> 00:35:11,943
I wonder what's going on?
762
00:35:11,977 --> 00:35:13,212
I can't see anything, can you?
763
00:35:13,245 --> 00:35:14,913
PAMELA CORRENTE: I said to
my son, look over there,
764
00:35:14,946 --> 00:35:16,382
and see what's going on.
765
00:35:16,415 --> 00:35:18,817
So he just looked over and
said, I don't see anything,
766
00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:21,920
you can't see anything, there's
just ambulances all over.
767
00:35:21,953 --> 00:35:25,056
So I passed it, I took him
to the doctor's office,
768
00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:25,957
we came back home.
769
00:35:25,991 --> 00:35:26,792
[ringing]
770
00:35:28,394 --> 00:35:29,795
ROBERT STACK: It was
then that Pam received
771
00:35:29,828 --> 00:35:32,831
an unusual phone call
about her eldest son,
772
00:35:32,864 --> 00:35:36,134
21-year-old Damian Corrente.
773
00:35:36,168 --> 00:35:37,469
No, he's not.
774
00:35:37,503 --> 00:35:38,404
May I take a message?
775
00:35:38,437 --> 00:35:39,771
PAMELA CORRENTE:
And I got a phone
776
00:35:39,805 --> 00:35:42,441
call from one of his friends,
asking me, is Damian there?
777
00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:43,509
Out for an errand.
778
00:35:43,542 --> 00:35:44,710
PAMELA CORRENTE: I
said no he's not,
779
00:35:44,743 --> 00:35:46,445
he was going to go out
to see his friends.
780
00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:47,946
Aren't you with him?
781
00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:48,880
No.
782
00:35:48,914 --> 00:35:52,384
OK, never mind,
and they hung up.
783
00:35:52,418 --> 00:35:54,186
And then, just the
whole thing was odd.
784
00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:56,488
ROBERT STACK: After
paging Damian to no avail,
785
00:35:56,522 --> 00:35:58,790
and with the accident
still fresh in her mind,
786
00:35:58,824 --> 00:36:01,126
Pam decided to check
local hospitals.
787
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,796
PAMELA CORRENTE: I called
South Nassau Hospital,
788
00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:07,132
and said, do you have a
Damian Corrente there?
789
00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:09,100
Yes, who is this?
790
00:36:09,134 --> 00:36:11,002
I said, this is his mom.
791
00:36:11,036 --> 00:36:12,003
I said, is he there?
792
00:36:12,037 --> 00:36:12,904
Is he OK?
793
00:36:12,938 --> 00:36:14,039
Why didn't anybody call?
794
00:36:14,072 --> 00:36:16,908
Why aren't I being informed?
795
00:36:16,942 --> 00:36:17,809
What's going on?
796
00:36:17,843 --> 00:36:19,077
Just tell me what's going on.
797
00:36:19,110 --> 00:36:21,947
And she said, didn't the
detective come to your house
798
00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:24,115
yet?
799
00:36:24,149 --> 00:36:26,685
ROBERT STACK: Within minutes,
Pam was at the hospital.
800
00:36:26,718 --> 00:36:28,920
Her son Damian had been
involved in the incident
801
00:36:28,954 --> 00:36:31,990
she saw earlier, but it
was no traffic accident.
802
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,963
PAMELA CORRENTE: My son
was there on the bed,
803
00:36:37,996 --> 00:36:42,000
and he was in a
hospital gown, and he
804
00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:43,168
looked like a complete angel.
805
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:51,310
And I went to hug him, and
there was blood on my hand.
806
00:36:51,343 --> 00:36:53,612
Oh God.
807
00:36:53,645 --> 00:36:55,013
PAMELA CORRENTE:
When they told me
808
00:36:55,046 --> 00:37:02,087
he was shot five times in the
head, I couldn't comprehend it.
809
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,589
Everything went
crazy at that point.
810
00:37:03,622 --> 00:37:04,423
[crying]
811
00:37:06,892 --> 00:37:09,561
DAMIANO CORRENTE:
That day I saw my wife
812
00:37:09,595 --> 00:37:12,864
crying on the other side of
the door, there was the nurse.
813
00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:15,734
And then I said to
her, what's the matter?
814
00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:18,937
She said, he's dead.
815
00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:20,439
Just like that.
816
00:37:20,472 --> 00:37:23,575
I'm so sorry.
817
00:37:23,609 --> 00:37:25,711
DAMIANO CORRENTE: Something
died in me that day, too.
818
00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:31,650
Pam Corrente her
husband Damiano
819
00:37:31,683 --> 00:37:35,253
soon learned that their son
had died in a gang shooting.
820
00:37:35,287 --> 00:37:37,789
Now the grieving parents had
to deal with insinuations
821
00:37:37,823 --> 00:37:39,725
that Damian was
himself a gang member,
822
00:37:39,758 --> 00:37:42,894
and had somehow played a
role in his own murder.
823
00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:45,664
But to Pam Corrente, that
just didn't make any sense.
824
00:37:48,967 --> 00:37:50,736
PAMELA CORRENTE: Damian
was a pre-med student
825
00:37:50,769 --> 00:37:53,639
at Stony Brook University.
826
00:37:53,672 --> 00:37:57,343
And he had an ambition, and
that was to go to college
827
00:37:57,376 --> 00:38:01,480
and to get his degree, and
become an anesthesiologist.
828
00:38:01,513 --> 00:38:05,216
My son had absolutely
no gang affiliation.
829
00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:08,086
That was proven
over and over, it
830
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:10,589
was written in every newspaper.
831
00:38:10,622 --> 00:38:12,958
He was absolutely
not a part of a gang,
832
00:38:12,991 --> 00:38:14,893
and had no gang affiliation
833
00:38:14,926 --> 00:38:15,861
Yeah, that's fine.
834
00:38:15,894 --> 00:38:17,028
Why don't you go
ahead and fax me--
835
00:38:17,062 --> 00:38:18,764
Mom, I'm taking off.
836
00:38:18,797 --> 00:38:20,131
Could you hold on one second.
837
00:38:20,165 --> 00:38:21,600
Honey, could you do
something for me,
838
00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:23,134
can you run this by the bank?
- OK.
839
00:38:23,168 --> 00:38:24,269
OK.
840
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:25,837
What time are you gonna be back?
- Before dinner.
841
00:38:25,871 --> 00:38:26,838
- Dinner's at 6:30.
- All right.
842
00:38:26,872 --> 00:38:28,039
OK, thanks honey,
I appreciate it.
843
00:38:28,073 --> 00:38:29,240
OK.
844
00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:30,642
ROBERT STACK: In the weeks
leading up to his death,
845
00:38:30,676 --> 00:38:32,844
Damian had returned
home for winter break,
846
00:38:32,878 --> 00:38:36,281
and had rekindled friendships
he formed in high school.
847
00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:37,315
DET.
848
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:38,484
BRIAN N. PARPAN: One
of those friends--
849
00:38:38,517 --> 00:38:39,851
Yo Harold.
DET.
850
00:38:39,885 --> 00:38:42,120
BRIAN N. PARPAN: Was a man by
the name of Harold Zambrano.
851
00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:43,088
Good looking, kid.
852
00:38:43,121 --> 00:38:45,256
Yo, pop your trunk for me, yo?
853
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:46,191
Yeah, sure.
854
00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:48,960
Harold was a
19-year-old member
855
00:38:48,994 --> 00:38:51,296
of a local gang called Nientes.
856
00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:54,766
Yo son, can you roll
by the school, or by,
857
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,334
you know, the
laundromat and stuff.
858
00:38:56,368 --> 00:38:58,036
We're just looking
for these punks.
859
00:38:58,069 --> 00:39:00,639
These punks?
Why, what's up?
860
00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:02,774
ROBERT STACK: Harold told
Damian that two days earlier he
861
00:39:02,808 --> 00:39:06,077
was jumped by members
of MS-13, a violent El
862
00:39:06,111 --> 00:39:10,315
Salvadorean street gang,
originally from Los Angeles.
863
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:11,950
- They jumped you?
- Yeah man, look at that.
864
00:39:11,983 --> 00:39:13,151
They cracked me over
the head with a bottle.
865
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,119
That looks horrible.
866
00:39:14,152 --> 00:39:15,787
Yeah, I know, son.
867
00:39:15,821 --> 00:39:18,457
ROBERT STACK: Harold
asked Damian for help.
868
00:39:18,490 --> 00:39:19,825
So I'm gonna go--
869
00:39:19,858 --> 00:39:21,627
PAMELA CORRENTE: Damian had
the biggest heart in the world,
870
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:24,430
that was part of his problem.
871
00:39:24,463 --> 00:39:26,998
Anybody asked him for
anything, he would do it,
872
00:39:27,032 --> 00:39:30,235
and he would be there, even
if he had his own plans.
873
00:39:30,268 --> 00:39:31,369
That's not right.
874
00:39:31,403 --> 00:39:33,872
I know, yo, that's why
you got my back, son?
875
00:39:33,905 --> 00:39:35,607
We're gonna go look
for these cats.
876
00:39:35,641 --> 00:39:37,943
Yeah, yeah, I got your back.
877
00:39:37,976 --> 00:39:39,277
CHIEF MICHAEL WOODWARD:
Damian Corrente,
878
00:39:39,310 --> 00:39:42,380
on the day that he died, I'm
sure had no idea as to what
879
00:39:42,414 --> 00:39:44,916
he was getting involved in.
880
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:47,886
Harold Zambrano being
a gang member probably
881
00:39:47,919 --> 00:39:51,156
never publicized
that fact to Damian.
882
00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:52,691
ROBERT STACK: At a
local strip mall,
883
00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:54,693
Harold found what
he was looking for.
884
00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:55,827
Yo, that's one of them.
885
00:39:55,861 --> 00:39:56,862
That's one of them right there.
886
00:39:56,895 --> 00:39:58,797
Stop the car, stop the car.
887
00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:01,199
ROBERT STACK: 19-year-old
German DeLeon.
888
00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:02,468
DET.
889
00:40:02,501 --> 00:40:04,703
BRIAN N. PARPAN: German DeLeon
is a known MS-13 member,
890
00:40:04,736 --> 00:40:06,472
and was wearing the
colors, so there
891
00:40:06,505 --> 00:40:11,142
was no question in their mind
that they had found somebody.
892
00:40:11,176 --> 00:40:13,044
Yo where's your
friends now, son?
893
00:40:13,078 --> 00:40:14,245
DET.
894
00:40:14,279 --> 00:40:14,813
BRIAN N. PARPAN: They
approached German DeLeon.
895
00:40:14,846 --> 00:40:15,814
Who are you?
896
00:40:15,847 --> 00:40:16,648
Who are you?
Don't play stupid, son.
897
00:40:16,682 --> 00:40:17,916
Did you do this?
DET.
898
00:40:17,949 --> 00:40:19,350
BRIAN N. PARPAN: They
confronted him with the injury
899
00:40:19,384 --> 00:40:20,285
to Harold Zambrano.
900
00:40:20,318 --> 00:40:21,753
I didn't do that,
yo, I was over
901
00:40:21,787 --> 00:40:22,788
here waiting for my girl, yo.
902
00:40:22,821 --> 00:40:23,722
What are you talking about?
903
00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:24,856
You're lying--
DET.
904
00:40:24,890 --> 00:40:26,191
BRIAN N. PARPAN: He was
there at the laundromat
905
00:40:26,224 --> 00:40:27,626
with his girlfriend.
906
00:40:27,659 --> 00:40:30,261
DeLeon admitted that
he was an MS-13 member,
907
00:40:30,295 --> 00:40:31,930
and told him that
he had nothing to do
908
00:40:31,963 --> 00:40:34,566
with that particular incident.
909
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,634
Yo, he's not worth it.
910
00:40:35,667 --> 00:40:36,635
DET.
911
00:40:36,668 --> 00:40:37,869
BRIAN N. PARPAN:
Zambrano and those guys
912
00:40:37,903 --> 00:40:39,805
indicated that they respected
the fact that he was
913
00:40:39,838 --> 00:40:42,440
with his girlfriend, And they
wouldn't cause him any trouble
914
00:40:42,474 --> 00:40:43,542
while he was with
his girlfriend.
915
00:40:43,575 --> 00:40:44,910
Forget about it.
916
00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:46,344
ROBERT STACK: Damian,
Harold, and the others
917
00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:48,146
returned to their car.
918
00:40:48,179 --> 00:40:50,916
And the incident would have
ended right there if it weren't
919
00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:54,252
for a tragic coincidence.
920
00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:59,057
Two more members of the MS-13
stumbled onto the scene.
921
00:40:59,090 --> 00:41:00,425
That's one of our boys, kid.
922
00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:03,529
ROBERT STACK: The confrontation
then exploded into violence.
923
00:41:03,562 --> 00:41:04,796
Yeah, yeah, get
that, get that.
924
00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:06,031
[gunshot]
925
00:41:06,064 --> 00:41:07,533
ROBERT STACK: Harold
Zambrano was shot in the neck
926
00:41:07,566 --> 00:41:10,536
and critically injured.
927
00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:14,039
Damian Corrente was fatally
shot five times in the head.
928
00:41:14,072 --> 00:41:15,273
[gunshots]
929
00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:18,577
A police investigation
quickly reveal the identity
930
00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:23,815
of the alleged shooters,
German DeLeon, Mario
931
00:41:23,849 --> 00:41:27,719
Portillo, and Juan
Gil Ferrufino,
932
00:41:27,753 --> 00:41:32,023
but the suspects
could not be found.
933
00:41:32,057 --> 00:41:33,124
PAMELA CORRENTE:
The whole family
934
00:41:33,158 --> 00:41:35,393
was absolutely devastated.
935
00:41:35,426 --> 00:41:36,928
And detectives started
coming to my house,
936
00:41:36,962 --> 00:41:38,764
and police started
coming to my house.
937
00:41:38,797 --> 00:41:41,567
And all my children's friends
started coming to my house.
938
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,735
And they would sit the
kids down, and say to them,
939
00:41:43,769 --> 00:41:45,303
tell me about gangs.
940
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:47,973
And the kids started
telling about gangs.
941
00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:50,141
And I was shocked.
942
00:41:50,175 --> 00:41:53,712
I said, why didn't you
tell me about gangs?
943
00:41:53,745 --> 00:41:56,548
Then I began driving
around to look for myself,
944
00:41:56,582 --> 00:41:58,483
and I saw exactly
what they said.
945
00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:00,852
I went up to the junior high
school and the high school,
946
00:42:00,886 --> 00:42:02,754
and I saw them, and you
can tell by their colors,
947
00:42:02,788 --> 00:42:06,291
and you can tell
with the bandanas.
948
00:42:06,324 --> 00:42:10,896
I was totally unaware,
totally unaware.
949
00:42:10,929 --> 00:42:13,098
And I saw kids hanging
out in different--
950
00:42:13,131 --> 00:42:14,766
it never occurred to me.
951
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,602
I just thought it was
just groups and groups.
952
00:42:16,635 --> 00:42:18,970
These groups are
extremely violent,
953
00:42:19,004 --> 00:42:22,608
males between the ages of 18
and 25, sometimes younger.
954
00:42:22,641 --> 00:42:24,009
ROBERT STACK: Later
that week, Pam
955
00:42:24,042 --> 00:42:26,912
attended a police forum
on gangs held in reaction
956
00:42:26,945 --> 00:42:27,879
to her son's murder.
957
00:42:27,913 --> 00:42:29,347
Are these groups--
958
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:30,949
When someone
asked the question,
959
00:42:30,982 --> 00:42:34,552
point blank, are there
gangs here in Freeport?
960
00:42:34,586 --> 00:42:35,687
The answer was--
961
00:42:35,721 --> 00:42:37,989
I would have to say at
this moment, not really.
962
00:42:38,023 --> 00:42:40,058
And that's when
I went berserk.
963
00:42:40,091 --> 00:42:43,428
How dare you tell these people
there's no gang activity here?
964
00:42:43,461 --> 00:42:44,663
My son Damian--
965
00:42:44,696 --> 00:42:46,497
PAMELA CORRENTE: And I stood
up in front of everyone,
966
00:42:46,531 --> 00:42:48,099
and I started screaming.
967
00:42:48,133 --> 00:42:50,301
How dare you even say that
when my son was murdered
968
00:42:50,335 --> 00:42:53,238
on your doorstep by gangs.
969
00:42:53,271 --> 00:42:55,841
And you're going to tell them
there's no gangs in Freeport?
970
00:42:55,874 --> 00:42:57,408
There's graffiti
all over the town.
971
00:42:57,442 --> 00:42:59,144
All the repetitive
patterns we've been seeing.
972
00:42:59,177 --> 00:43:00,311
ROBERT STACK: It
was at that moment
973
00:43:00,345 --> 00:43:02,781
that Pam Corrente
had an epiphany.
974
00:43:02,814 --> 00:43:07,052
She would lead the charge to
rid her neighborhood of gangs.
975
00:43:07,085 --> 00:43:08,586
Perhaps you would
like to join me
976
00:43:08,620 --> 00:43:10,789
for a closed meeting
with the mayor tomorrow
977
00:43:10,822 --> 00:43:12,557
night on this very topic.
978
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:14,125
I would love to,
yes, thank you.
979
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:15,026
Would you make it?
980
00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:16,161
I would love to
come, thank you.
981
00:43:16,194 --> 00:43:17,696
PAMELA CORRENTE:
I had no choice.
982
00:43:17,729 --> 00:43:19,097
I had to fight.
983
00:43:19,130 --> 00:43:20,632
It was either that
or go through rage,
984
00:43:20,666 --> 00:43:23,234
and the anger, and the hate.
985
00:43:23,268 --> 00:43:25,336
So I can't do that,
but I can fight back
986
00:43:25,370 --> 00:43:26,805
by trying to educate
our children,
987
00:43:26,838 --> 00:43:28,339
and trying to find
a way for them.
988
00:43:28,373 --> 00:43:32,277
And to educate the parents
to educate the children.
989
00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:34,079
ROBERT STACK: Pam and the
Freeport police department
990
00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:37,448
formed GASP, the Gang
Awareness Suppression Program.
991
00:43:37,482 --> 00:43:38,483
Hi, I'm Pam Corrente.
992
00:43:38,516 --> 00:43:39,885
Hi, I'm here in
the neighborhood,
993
00:43:39,918 --> 00:43:42,053
I'm trying to raise awareness of
the gang problem we have here.
994
00:43:42,087 --> 00:43:43,588
We have a gang problem
in this neighborhood?
995
00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:44,656
Yes, actually, we do.
996
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:46,057
PAMELA CORRENTE: We're
opening their eyes
997
00:43:46,091 --> 00:43:51,196
to a very big problem that maybe
didn't exist when we were kids.
998
00:43:51,229 --> 00:43:54,465
And it was such a good, healthy
outlet, instead of the hate,
999
00:43:54,499 --> 00:43:57,135
and the anger, and the
rage, and the frustration
1000
00:43:57,168 --> 00:43:59,805
that I was feeling,
living only blocks
1001
00:43:59,838 --> 00:44:03,508
from the mother and father of
the kids who killed my son.
1002
00:44:03,541 --> 00:44:04,409
Thanks a lot.
1003
00:44:04,442 --> 00:44:05,376
I appreciate your help.
1004
00:44:05,410 --> 00:44:06,277
Thank you.
1005
00:44:06,311 --> 00:44:07,545
Bye bye.
1006
00:44:07,578 --> 00:44:09,147
PAMELA CORRENTE: I hope
I can make a difference.
1007
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:13,318
I don't know that I
am, but I hope I can.
1008
00:44:13,351 --> 00:44:15,086
ROBERT STACK: Since
Pam founded GASP,
1009
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,922
not one person
has died from gang
1010
00:44:16,955 --> 00:44:18,389
violence in the Freeport area.
1011
00:44:22,994 --> 00:44:25,797
But even though Pam finds
her new work rewarding,
1012
00:44:25,831 --> 00:44:28,433
it will never take away
the pain of losing her son.
1013
00:44:28,466 --> 00:44:30,635
When it blooms, it's
gonna be a beautiful.
1014
00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:31,870
ROBERT STACK: There
is only one thing
1015
00:44:31,903 --> 00:44:33,772
that would help,
catching the alleged
1016
00:44:33,805 --> 00:44:35,040
killers of Damian Corrente.
1017
00:44:37,375 --> 00:44:38,176
[gunshot]
1018
00:44:40,645 --> 00:44:44,015
Although police trace German
DeLeon, Mario Portillo,
1019
00:44:44,049 --> 00:44:47,052
and Juan Gil Ferrufino
to El Salvador,
1020
00:44:47,085 --> 00:44:48,653
they now believe the
suspects may have
1021
00:44:48,686 --> 00:44:50,655
returned to the United States.
1022
00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:52,523
[gunshots]
1023
00:44:52,557 --> 00:44:54,459
All three are young
Hispanic males,
1024
00:44:54,492 --> 00:44:56,728
and may be hiding in
Los Angeles or Miami.
1025
00:45:02,467 --> 00:45:04,169
[theme music playing]
1026
00:45:09,174 --> 00:45:13,044
With every mystery, one critical
clue may lead to a solution.
1027
00:45:13,078 --> 00:45:15,947
Join us again for
"Unsolved Mysteries."
1028
00:45:25,056 --> 00:45:35,100
[theme music playing]
1029
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:41,807
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