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ANNOUNCER: Tonight, on
"Unsolved Mysteries."
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ROBERT STACK: They call
it the Chair of Death.
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More than 300 years
ago, a condemned killer
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pronounced a curse on the seat
as he was led to the gallows.
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Legend has it that ever since,
those who ignored the warnings
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were doomed to an
untimely death.
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For 11 years, Audrey Santo
has been in a coma-like state,
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yet her bedroom has
become a religious shrine.
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A constant stream
of visitors believes
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that somehow in this
mysterious sleep state,
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Audrey can perform miracles.
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A dog rescues a total
stranger from drowning.
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A pet pig saves the
life of its owner.
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What turns animals into heroes?
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Is it instinct, a sixth
sense, or something more?
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It may look like nothing more
than a worn and weather-beaten
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scrap of olive wood.
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Many believe it holds
extraordinary power--
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the power to heal.
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Is it possible this
is an actual remnant
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of the legendary Holy Grail?
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Can the power of
love transcend death?
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Consider the purity and
simplicity of a single red
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rose.
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This woman says it was a gift
sent from beyond the grave
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by her father, television
star Michael Landon.
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Join me for these
fascinating stories.
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Perhaps someone somewhere
has that one vital clue
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that can solve a mystery.
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Perhaps that
someone is watching.
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Perhaps it's you.
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[theme music]
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The English village
of Thirsk has
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all the quirky charms and quaint
customs a visitor might expect.
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It also has one attraction
you might not expect.
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As you wander through the
clutter of the village's
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tiny museum, you
might find yourself
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drawn to a remote alcove and
a valuable antique chair.
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But it's not on
display for its rarity.
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According to the
locals, this chair
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is cursed with an
astonishing and lethal power.
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It all started way back in 1669.
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Thomas Busby, a
convicted murderer
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on his way to the gallows,
was granted a last wish--
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a final pint of ale
on his favorite chair
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at his favorite pub.
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When he finished,
the condemned man
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gathered himself for the
hangman, pointed to the chair,
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and let his voice ring out--
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may sudden death come to anyone
who dares sit in my chair.
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Thomas Busby's curse
echoed down the centuries,
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proving his potency
over and over again.
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At least that's
how it's told here
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with typical British reserve.
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PETER HATCH: After
he was hanged,
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this chair remained
in the pub and people
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were dared to sit in it.
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But gradually, it
became noticed that they
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were coming to a sticky end
afterwards or very shortly
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afterwards.
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ROBERT STACK: No one knows
exactly how many victims
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the curse has claimed since
Thomas Busby met his maker,
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but the legend gained a
great deal of notoriety
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during World War II.
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Airmen at a nearby base
made the pub a hot spot
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and the chair a hot seat.
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People started noticing--
those who sat didn't come back.
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[gunfire] [explosions]
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ROLY BARNES: Well,
until I came here,
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I didn't believe in curses.
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But now I have mixed
feelings after hearing some
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of the things about the chair.
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The only way I would
sit in the chair,
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if my doctor told me I've
only got 12 hours to live.
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A great many people
take it very seriously.
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I'm not a superstitious man,
but I wouldn't sit in it.
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Maybe a little ride in Busby's
chair, what do you think?
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The chair?
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ROBERT STACK: 1967, 300
years after Busby drank
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his last pint, a pair of
Royal Air Force pilots
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downed a few too
many of their own.
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How's that feel, sir?
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Very nice.
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It's still hot, it's
still ticking a bit.
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You all right?
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I feel pretty damn
good, I tell you.
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How bout a-- a go for it?
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A go?
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A little spin, how bout it?
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I'm good for a
go, I'm not afraid.
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Sit right down in there.
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Oh, it's not bad at all,
it's not bad at all.
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- It's a bit tingly.
- It is tingly.
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It's good, though.
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ROBERT STACK: The
tingle didn't last long.
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The pilots were about
to be grounded for good.
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[tires squealing]
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[crash]
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The chair was no longer known
merely as Busby's Chair.
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Now it was the Chair of Death.
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A few years later, two
bricklayers working nearby
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took a lunch break at the pub.
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You feeling lucky today?
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ROBERT STACK: Despite the
chair's sinister reputation,
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they couldn't resist
daring its power.
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You've got to be kidding.
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Hm.
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Ah.
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There have been a lot of
people to tell you it's true.
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Want to give it a try?
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What, you think
I'm scared, then?
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Don't know if you are or not.
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Curious to know, though.
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You do it.
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Not me, ey, fellas?
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Go on.
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All right, then.
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Yes, all right, now.
[applause]
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All right.
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ROBERT STACK: That afternoon,
Busby's curse struck again.
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Oh!
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Ahhh!
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[thud]
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Here we go.
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You guys ready?
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ROBERT STACK: Legend has it
the chair never had an off day.
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Anyone who warmed its
wooden bottom died swiftly.
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A roofer who tempted the chair
fell to his death when the roof
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he was working on collapsed.
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A cleaning woman stumbled
into the chair while mopping.
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Soon after, a brain
tumor killed her.
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No one escaped the
Chair of Death.
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Aye, well, with
all this rain we've
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been having, I haven't been
in much need of new supplies.
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ROBERT STACK: For safety's sake,
the pub owner finally moved
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the chair into the basement.
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Out of harm's way.
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Or so he thought.
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You actually believe
in the curse now.
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Well, don't sit in it!
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I can tell you more than one
or two stories about people
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who've met a premature death.
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Do you believe in
that sort of thing?
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ROBERT STACK: Within
the hour, the delivery
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man's delivery days were over.
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[tires squealing] [crash]
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It was the last straw.
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There was only one safe
place for the chair--
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the local museum.
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The curators made sure no one
would sit in Busby's chair
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again.
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They hung it on the wall,
five feet off the ground.
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PETER WYON: People come
in, they're horrified.
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Oooh-- they-- they
sort of register horror
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when they come in and see this
chair and-- and hear the story.
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ROBERT STACK: Though its killing
days are presumed to be over,
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people continue to
come forward with more
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tales of the Chair of Death.
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ROLY BARNES: The
strangest one that was
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just a couple of months ago.
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A fellow rang me, a
retired man from Darby
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who'd been stationed on the
air force base during the war.
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And he was a member
of the RAF band,
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and they used to play
at functions in Thirsk
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and traveled there by truck.
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On the way back one
night, they picked up
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two airmen who were walking home
from a night out in the town.
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And one of these airmen
wanted to use a toilet,
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so they stopped here
at the Busby Stoop.
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ROBERT STACK: While
waiting for the airman,
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the driver of the
truck, all unknowing,
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sat in Busby's chair.
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When the airman didn't
return, the driver
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left the pub without him.
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The abandoned and furious
airman had to make
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his own way back to the base.
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ROLY BARNES: When he got
there, he got a building brick
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and smashed the head of
this driver and killed him.
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ROBERT STACK: These
days, the chair
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isn't taken down
even for cleaning,
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just in case anyone is
foolhardy enough to test
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Busby's curse once more.
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PETER HATCH: The power of the
chair has been hung up with it,
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and I wouldn't advise anybody to
take it down and sit on it now.
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Because it does
seem that those who
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challenge the power
of the chair have been
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the quickest to succumb to it.
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ROBERT STACK: Next, the
unique and strange story
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of a girl who many believe
is somehow healing the sick,
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even though she has been in
a near-coma for 11 years.
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TOUR GUIDE: As you can
see, this is Audrey's room.
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And the person sitting down on
her left is her grandmother.
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And the person standing on your
right is one of the nurses--
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ROBERT STACK: Meet Audrey Santo.
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This is not a re-enactment.
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Audrey has been in a
coma-like state called
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akinetic mutism for 11 years.
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Every week, people
line up at this window
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to get a glimpse of her.
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Not because they are morbid,
but because they believe
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she's a miracle maker.
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Her astonishing story
begins when Audrey
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played by her
family's swimming pool
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in Worcester, Massachusetts.
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She was only three years
old when tragedy struck.
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AUDREY SANTO: [shrieks]
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ROBERT STACK: Audrey was
underwater for several minutes
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before she was rescued
by her brother.
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On the way to the
emergency room,
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she went into cardiac arrest.
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It was a parent's
worst nightmare.
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Audrey's initial diagnosis
after the near-drowning was--
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that she had massive brain
damage from the drowning
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and a very poor prognosis,
they didn't think she
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was going to live very long.
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LINDA SANTO: We just
started praying.
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That's all.
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Just prayed.
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Because when things are
totally out of your control,
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what else can you do?
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It's God's control, and you've
got to give Him the ball
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and let Him run with it.
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ROBERT STACK: Audrey
lived, but she has remained
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bedridden for 11 years.
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She shows an awareness of
what's going on around her,
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but she is unable
to move or talk.
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She's not fully conscious by
any stretch of the imagination,
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yet she's not unconscious.
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ROBERT STACK: A year
after Audrey's accident,
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her mother took her
to the famous miracle
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site of Medjugorje,
hoping for a cure.
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The trip nearly killed
Audrey, but from that time
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on, a gradual progression
of unexplained phenomena
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took place.
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One of the most
remarkable occurred
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in the Santos' living room.
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October 1993.
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Audrey was nine.
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A picture of the Virgin
Mary appeared to be crying.
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Not tears, but drops of oil.
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LINDA SANTO: We're all
looking at this image.
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And-- and I said, please, you
know, if this is for Audrey,
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let us know this,
because all of a sudden
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it occurred just to
the-- to the kids and I
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that maybe this weeping
was for Audrey's healing.
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There are many
meanings of oil.
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For example, healing, and so on.
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And I conclude quickly
then that God is saying,
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this is a holy place, and
this little girl is mine.
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ROBERT STACK: It started
with one weeping picture.
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Then, as the days
went on, almost
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every religious icon in Audrey's
room began to cry tears of oil.
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LINDA SANTO: Another
image started weeping,
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and then another
image started weeping.
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We started thinking,
well, is there
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a rhyme or reason to this?
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ROBERT STACK: Or
could it be a hoax?
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One person who thought it was
a sham was a newly-hired nurse.
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Warm enough?
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When I started
piecing everything
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together, at first I'm saying,
I gotta get out of here.
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These guys are nuts!
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I really tried to call
their bluff on this.
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But as I stayed there, I just--
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I believed it.
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I couldn't-- I can't find any
reason why these things are
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happening, and I have checked.
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I checked the-- the
statues, I checked the cups.
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I mean, I'm looking for
wires and anything that
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would start an oil reaction.
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And there was-- there
was absolutely nothing.
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Nothing there that I can
explain why it's happening.
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ROBERT STACK: News
began to spread
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within the Catholic community.
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Fervent believers began to
request samples of the oil.
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Some even anointed their
sick loved ones with it.
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The mysterious events began
to take on a new dimension.
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Caitlin McQuade was thought
to have cerebral palsy.
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She no longer has
braces on her legs.
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Victor Fanucchi recovered
from crippling neck pain.
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A motorcycle accident
had left Joey Parolisi
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with severely injured legs.
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He can now walk
without crutches.
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Lord Jesus Christ, you gave
us the Eucharist as the memorial
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of your suffering again--
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ROBERT STACK: In a remarkable
departure from tradition,
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the local Catholic
diocese approved
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the weekly performance of
mass in a makeshift sanctuary
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in the family's backyard.
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Pilgrims came to the Santo home
to ask Audrey to pray for them
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and to receive
samples of the oil.
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At first, they came by the
dozens, then by the hundreds,
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until the numbers
reached the thousands.
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Joanna Stanley Pirog were given
a sample of oil by a friend
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when their 17-year-old
son Jim lapsed
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into a coma after a car crash.
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A serious student, he
intended to go to college.
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That was before a pickup hit
the driver's side of his car.
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They told us then that Jim's
condition was very, very grave.
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And it would be a miracle
if he survived the night.
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We're concerned that Jim
was not going to make it.
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ROBERT STACK: Jim
was still comatose
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seven days later when they
placed the oil on his forehead.
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[praying]
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ROBERT STACK: And then,
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[praying]
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ROBERT STACK: The monitors
showed that Jim was responding.
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I can still remember
the feeling of awe.
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Because I didn't expect
that particular effect.
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And it was just a few
hours later that he
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did come out of his coma.
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And the nurses used to
call him Miracle Kid.
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ROBERT STACK: It took
Jim a year to improve
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enough from his
injuries to return
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to high school and graduate.
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Audrey's astonishing
abilities took
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a new twist in June of 1994.
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Without warning, a mysterious
rash appeared on her legs.
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Was Audrey taking on the painful
side effects of sick people?
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Dr. Harding had no
explanation for it.
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So a laboratory examined
the biopsy of Audrey's skin.
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JOHN HARDING: And they sent
back a report that said it's--
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the rash that you might see
with a patient on chemotherapy.
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And she wasn't on chemotherapy.
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Knowing the supernatural
stuff flying around her,
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perhaps somebody had come
in, maybe their wife dying
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of cancer or their husband or
their child and on chemotherapy
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and had asked her if she
would ask God for healing
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for their loved one.
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And it, uh, you know,
perhaps she took that on,
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that suffering and--
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on behalf of a patient.
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ROBERT STACK: But
one of the most
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incredible aspects of Audrey's
story is Audrey herself.
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After 11 years of
being bedridden,
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she is surprisingly healthy.
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JOHN HARDING: You
just wouldn't expect
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her to be so
well-nourished looking,
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her skin to be in such
perfect condition.
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She really just looks like
this maybe happened a--
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a few weeks ago or
a month ago, not
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like it happened 11 years ago.
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The girl's never had
a bedsore, you know?
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And for someone who doesn't
move around and have a trach
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and stuff, she really has
not had any kind of pneumonia
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or cold or anything in
three years, which is really
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in itself a remarkable thing.
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It's got to be God.
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I mean, supernatural comes
from two sources in my book--
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the Devil or God, and
since this is all good
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and people are coming back to
God and they're being healed,
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this must be of God.
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ROBERT STACK: Next, heartwarming
stories about a blind dog
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and an overweight pig.
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Can you guess what qualities
make them an unsolved mystery?
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They say that inside even
the smallest dog lives
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a heart and mind of a wolf.
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So what's strange force makes
these animals our best friends?
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Even more puzzling, what
inexplicable instinct
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persuades them to risk
their lives for ours?
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What is a potent and mysterious
bond between us and them?
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Annette McDonald
and her dog Norman
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often walk along the
shore of a tidal estuary
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in Seaside, Oregon.
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Norman is a yellow
lab, a kind of dog
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often used to guide the blind.
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In this case, however,
the roles are reversed.
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Norman is blind.
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Annette guides him.
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[barks]
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ANNETTE MCDONALD: When Norman's
going to bump into something,
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I just say, easy, easy.
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If I throw the stick and he
doesn't hear where it lands
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and he goes the wrong direction,
I tell him to go the other way.
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I just say, other
way, other way,
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and he'll usually turn
around and go the right way.
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ROBERT STACK: On
August 5th, 1997,
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Annette was guiding Norman
through their usual game,
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when Norman suddenly reacted
to a different sound.
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[barks]
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Norman!
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Norman!
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He just took off like a bullet.
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I was surprised that he
could even run that fast.
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ROBERT STACK: Annette
tried to call him back,
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worried he would hurt himself,
but he ignored her completely.
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Help!
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Help!
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Help!
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00:19:50,122 --> 00:19:51,424
ROBERT STACK:
15-year-old Lisa Nibley
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was caught in a dangerous
undertow of the incoming tide.
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LISA NIBLEY: I was having a
hard time getting enough air in,
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you know.
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My lungs were just burning
because it was just
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so hard for me to breathe and--
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and my face was just on
fire because I was screaming
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so loud for someone to help me.
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Help!
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ROBERT STACK: Amazingly,
Norman started
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swimming straight toward her.
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ANNETTE MCDONALD: I couldn't
believe that he knew
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what to do, but he
knew somebody needed
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him and he went and did it.
404
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It was just-- it was incredible.
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ROBERT STACK: When Lisa saw
Norman heading toward her,
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she stopped screaming.
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00:20:28,127 --> 00:20:29,862
Norman became
instantly disoriented.
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[whimpers]
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ROBERT STACK: Annette
suddenly realized Norman had
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been following Lisa's voice.
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Call him!
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Call him, his name is Norman!
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His name is Norman, call him!
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He'll come to you!
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Norman!
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Norman!
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ROBERT STACK: The
moment Lisa called him,
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Norman got his bearings and
swam straight toward her.
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Come on, Norman!
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It was the most hopeless
moment in my life.
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I felt like everything
was depending
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on Norman to get out there
and get her because there
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was no way I could.
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I'm not a swimmer and I wouldn't
have been able to save her,
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it was all depending on him.
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When he swam out to me,
he kind of looked at me,
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at my face, and kind of like he
was saying, grab a hold of me,
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I'm going to help you.
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ROBERT STACK: Lisa grabbed
Norman then lost her grip.
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Her arms were
shaking with fatigue.
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Incredibly, Norman came
back for another try.
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Norman!
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LISA NIBLEY: He turned around
and, like, swung himself around
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so I could grab the back
of him so he could swim
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and I could hold onto him.
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I think he-- he knew
that he had to help me.
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He knew what he was doing.
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ROBERT STACK: To
Lisa's astonishment,
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Norman towed her toward
shore as though he'd
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been trained for all his life.
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Moments later, they were
back in the shallows, safe.
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We did it, come on!
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LISA NIBLEY: He's my
guardian angel and I--
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I was, you know, so happy
that-- that happened
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and he saved me
and it was amazing.
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00:22:05,425 --> 00:22:07,226
ROBERT STACK: Neither Annette
nor Lisa understand what
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00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:10,296
mysterious instinct
inspired a blind dog to risk
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his life for a stranger,
but Lisa will be
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forever grateful to her hero--
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Norman.
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When you look into a
dog's soft brown eyes,
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it's not hard to see
the heart of a hero.
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But what about other animals?
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August 4th, 1998.
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Jo Altsman was vacationing
at a campground on Lake Erie.
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While her husband
was out fishing,
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she was relaxing
in their trailer.
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Suddenly, she felt a pain in
her chest and her left arm
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went numb.
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Help!
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00:22:51,538 --> 00:22:52,872
Help!
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00:22:52,972 --> 00:22:53,973
Help me!
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00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:56,242
No No one in the
campground heard her cries.
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No one except Lulu, her
pet pot-bellied pig.
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[squeals]
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ROBERT STACK: Jo's heart attack
continued, the pain increasing.
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Is anybody there?
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ROBERT STACK: She became
terrified that she would die,
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no one close enough to help.
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Seconds passed.
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Minutes.
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She was getting weaker.
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YOUNG MAN: Hello?
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Is anybody home?
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JO ALTSMAN: Help me!
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00:23:25,805 --> 00:23:28,274
I'm having a heart
attack, call 911!
477
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The phone is in the center.
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00:23:29,476 --> 00:23:30,710
All right, I--
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I'll get some help, I'll get
an ambulance, just hold on,
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I'll be right back!
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ROBERT STACK: Within
minutes, paramedics were
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rushing Jo to the hospital.
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JO ALTMAN: They took me to the
emergency room and admitted me.
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And they said that
even 15 minutes, I
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would have no quality of
life or I would have died.
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ROBERT STACK: But how did the
young man happen to arrive
487
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:54,333
just in the nick of time?
488
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:57,403
What guardian angel
guided him to her door?
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To Jo's amazement, it turned
out to be Lulu the pig.
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From the moment Jo
fell to the floor,
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Lulu seemed to know
something was very wrong.
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[squeals]
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ROBERT STACK: She
ran to the kitchen
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00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:15,421
and squeezed yourself
through the dog door,
495
00:24:15,522 --> 00:24:16,823
scraping her belly raw.
496
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,996
Outside, Lulu threw
herself against the gate,
497
00:24:24,096 --> 00:24:27,734
battering it until it broke.
498
00:24:27,834 --> 00:24:29,836
JO ALTSMAN: Her cries
kept getting fainter.
499
00:24:29,936 --> 00:24:32,371
That's because she was
going farther away from me,
500
00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:34,373
but I didn't register
that at the time.
501
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:35,775
[squealing]
502
00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,244
ROBERT STACK: Lulu went to the
campground's main crossroads.
503
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,050
Incredibly, she parked herself
in the middle of the road,
504
00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:46,485
forcing drivers to back
up or swerve around her.
505
00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:54,594
Even more amazing, Lulu
repeatedly retraced her steps,
506
00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:57,163
returning constantly to Jo.
507
00:24:57,263 --> 00:24:59,599
JO ALTSMAN: She'd come back
in through the doggy door
508
00:24:59,699 --> 00:25:01,534
and scrape her belly
and check on me
509
00:25:01,634 --> 00:25:04,336
and put that big mug
of hers over my face.
510
00:25:04,436 --> 00:25:06,873
And she'd go out back
out through everything
511
00:25:06,973 --> 00:25:09,308
and do everything again.
512
00:25:09,408 --> 00:25:12,011
It just seemed like
I'd hollered forever
513
00:25:12,111 --> 00:25:18,585
and Lulu had run back and
forth forever, and nobody came.
514
00:25:18,685 --> 00:25:19,686
ROBERT STACK: But
Lulu apparently
515
00:25:19,786 --> 00:25:21,487
wasn't willing to give up.
516
00:25:21,588 --> 00:25:22,955
Finally, someone stopped.
517
00:25:32,498 --> 00:25:35,334
Lulu's behavior
defies explanation.
518
00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:37,269
Did she actually
conceive and execute
519
00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:39,371
a plan to save Jo's life?
520
00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:41,007
How could a pig do that?
521
00:25:41,107 --> 00:25:41,908
And why would she?
522
00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:46,579
Animal behaviorists
might credit pack
523
00:25:46,679 --> 00:25:48,948
instinct, the genetically
programmed responses
524
00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:50,449
to fear pheromones.
525
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,185
But Jo has a simpler answer--
526
00:25:53,285 --> 00:25:55,287
Lulu loved her.
527
00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:58,457
Every morning I thank
God that she was there.
528
00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:00,860
And every morning I thank her.
529
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,295
Lulu literally saved my life.
530
00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:09,736
ROBERT STACK: Next, some say
that water from a chalice
531
00:26:09,836 --> 00:26:13,039
called a Nanteos Cup
has the power to heal.
532
00:26:13,139 --> 00:26:15,074
Could it be the Holy Grail?
533
00:26:23,549 --> 00:26:26,485
It was the most sacred
object of the Middle Ages.
534
00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:29,756
The great elusive prize covered
by King Arthur and his knights
535
00:26:29,856 --> 00:26:31,691
of the Round Table.
536
00:26:31,791 --> 00:26:35,294
Centuries ago, wandering
minstrels popularized the image
537
00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:37,429
of a bejeweled golden chalice--
538
00:26:37,529 --> 00:26:39,431
the Holy Grail.
539
00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:41,634
But that is a romantic ideal.
540
00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:43,736
The reality may be
quite different.
541
00:26:46,639 --> 00:26:49,508
Thousands of people believe
this well-worn palm-sized bit
542
00:26:49,608 --> 00:26:52,812
of olive wood, kept under
lock and key in West Wales,
543
00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:56,749
is the true Grail, all that
is left of a simple workman's
544
00:26:56,849 --> 00:27:00,152
cup, a cup from which
Jesus Christ himself drank
545
00:27:00,252 --> 00:27:01,053
at the Last Supper.
546
00:27:04,423 --> 00:27:08,260
SEAN MACHESTER: The cup
is a unique symbol which
547
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,197
brings God and man together.
548
00:27:11,297 --> 00:27:15,301
And of course, for
the Catholic at least,
549
00:27:15,401 --> 00:27:19,138
Christ is present in the cup.
550
00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:22,975
Many people regard the
Holy Grail and Jesus
551
00:27:23,075 --> 00:27:25,311
Christ as one and the same.
552
00:27:29,348 --> 00:27:32,184
ROBERT STACK: It is a powerful
notion, that the lips of Christ
553
00:27:32,284 --> 00:27:35,722
actually touched an object
that still exists today.
554
00:27:35,822 --> 00:27:37,423
But is it truly the Grail?
555
00:27:37,523 --> 00:27:39,258
Where is the proof?
556
00:27:39,358 --> 00:27:43,062
Believers say it lies in the
cup's miraculous power to heal.
557
00:27:43,162 --> 00:27:44,630
Hundreds testify
they have been cured
558
00:27:44,731 --> 00:27:46,398
of the worst afflictions--
559
00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:49,135
arthritis, heart disease,
blindness, leprosy,
560
00:27:49,235 --> 00:27:51,838
even deadly cancers.
561
00:27:51,938 --> 00:27:54,106
The legend of the Grail begins
with this wondrous journey
562
00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:57,443
from biblical Palestine to
a modest cottage in England.
563
00:28:00,947 --> 00:28:03,682
For more than 2,000
years, every object
564
00:28:03,783 --> 00:28:06,418
associated with the Last
Supper and the Crucifixion
565
00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:09,221
has taken on a
mystical significance,
566
00:28:09,321 --> 00:28:13,625
none more so the Holy Grail.
567
00:28:13,726 --> 00:28:14,827
RONALD HUTTON:
For the historian,
568
00:28:14,927 --> 00:28:17,229
the Grail is legend,
pure and simple,
569
00:28:17,329 --> 00:28:19,198
but legend is an amazing thing.
570
00:28:19,298 --> 00:28:21,801
It can enable people to do
heroic things under the worst
571
00:28:21,901 --> 00:28:23,402
of circumstances.
572
00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:24,804
And that's why
the Grail story is
573
00:28:24,904 --> 00:28:27,473
one of the greatest stories in
the entire history of the world
574
00:28:27,573 --> 00:28:30,342
and always will be.
575
00:28:30,442 --> 00:28:32,611
ROBERT STACK: Though it was
not recorded in the Bible,
576
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:35,147
the Grail legend holds that
blood spilled from Chirst's
577
00:28:35,247 --> 00:28:37,049
wounds as his body
was being prepared
578
00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:40,219
for burial, Joseph
of Arimathea caught
579
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,254
a few drops in the Grail.
580
00:28:42,354 --> 00:28:44,656
After the Resurrection,
Joseph was accused
581
00:28:44,757 --> 00:28:47,193
of stealing the body of
Christ and was imprisoned
582
00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:49,228
without food or water.
583
00:28:49,328 --> 00:28:52,598
Each day, however, an angel
placed a wafer in the Grail,
584
00:28:52,698 --> 00:28:55,234
keeping Joseph alive
until he managed to escape
585
00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:57,669
with his life and the Grail.
586
00:28:57,770 --> 00:29:01,173
He brought the precious cup to
the Western Isles of Britain.
587
00:29:01,273 --> 00:29:03,442
There he founded the
Church of the Holy Grail
588
00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:07,847
on Glastonbury Tor, a church
whose ruins still stand today,
589
00:29:07,947 --> 00:29:09,481
100 miles west of London.
590
00:29:12,484 --> 00:29:13,886
SEAN MACHESTER: There
is sufficient evidence--
591
00:29:13,986 --> 00:29:16,956
written evidence--
to support the coming
592
00:29:17,056 --> 00:29:19,458
of Joseph and the Holy Grail--
593
00:29:19,558 --> 00:29:22,728
with 11 or so disciples--
594
00:29:22,829 --> 00:29:24,596
to the western
confines of England,
595
00:29:24,696 --> 00:29:29,535
indeed to Glastonbury via the
Bristol Channel from Palestine.
596
00:29:32,704 --> 00:29:34,440
ROBERT STACK: For 1,000
years after Joseph came
597
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,542
to Glastonbury, the
Grail remained hidden
598
00:29:36,642 --> 00:29:39,678
away and all but forgotten.
599
00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,148
Then in the 12th century,
poets and troubadours
600
00:29:42,248 --> 00:29:43,816
revived the legend.
601
00:29:43,916 --> 00:29:47,954
The quest for the Grail
captivated all of Europe.
602
00:29:48,054 --> 00:29:49,721
RONALD HUTTON: It's the
spiritual equivalent to, say,
603
00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:52,391
the "Star Wars" trilogy,
the "Superman" movies,
604
00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:55,261
the "Batman" movies
all rolled into one.
605
00:29:55,361 --> 00:29:57,196
Everybody knows the
characters, everybody
606
00:29:57,296 --> 00:29:59,498
has some sense of what's at
stake-- it's the salvation
607
00:29:59,598 --> 00:30:02,201
of the human race.
608
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,336
ROBERT STACK: Three
centuries after the revival
609
00:30:04,436 --> 00:30:08,007
of the Grail legend, Henry
VIII added another chapter.
610
00:30:08,107 --> 00:30:10,542
He ordered his soldiers
to loot the monasteries
611
00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:15,614
and destroy the churches,
including Glastonbury.
612
00:30:15,714 --> 00:30:16,916
RONALD HUTTON: Henry
VIII's reformation
613
00:30:17,016 --> 00:30:18,150
was among the great
acts of vandalism
614
00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:20,152
in the history of the world.
615
00:30:20,252 --> 00:30:22,321
To put it bluntly, the King
wants to get rich so he
616
00:30:22,421 --> 00:30:24,156
could fight France and Spain.
617
00:30:24,256 --> 00:30:26,893
And he also wanted to
remove what he thought
618
00:30:26,993 --> 00:30:28,861
were the wrong bits of
religion of his land,
619
00:30:28,961 --> 00:30:30,997
and that's why these great
medieval abbeys had to go.
620
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:35,767
ROBERT STACK: A group of
monks left Glastonbury just
621
00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:37,970
ahead of the King's soldiers.
622
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:39,571
Legend has it that
they carried with them
623
00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:42,574
a secret treasure,
the true Grail.
624
00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:44,843
For a time, they hid
in a monastery in Wales
625
00:30:44,944 --> 00:30:47,579
called Strata Florida.
626
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:50,582
When Strata Florida suffered
the same fate as Glastonbury,
627
00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:53,385
the monks fled again.
628
00:30:53,485 --> 00:30:56,355
This time to Nanteos House,
a mansion owned by a family
629
00:30:56,455 --> 00:30:58,690
of aristocrats named Powell.
630
00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:01,961
There the monks found sanctuary.
631
00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:04,063
PETER GRIFFITHS: There
were seven of them.
632
00:31:04,163 --> 00:31:06,732
Six monks and the prior.
633
00:31:06,832 --> 00:31:12,438
And they remained in Nanteos
House until one-by-one,
634
00:31:12,538 --> 00:31:14,473
they passed on.
635
00:31:14,573 --> 00:31:17,376
The last of the seven
to die was the prior,
636
00:31:17,476 --> 00:31:21,547
and it was the prior who
handed this sacred relic over
637
00:31:21,647 --> 00:31:22,448
to the Powell family.
638
00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:26,885
ROBERT STACK: The Powells
guarded the monks' relic
639
00:31:26,986 --> 00:31:29,455
for 400 years, handing
it down from one
640
00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:31,190
generation to the next.
641
00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:33,292
It became known as
the Nanteos Cup.
642
00:31:36,362 --> 00:31:37,829
PETER GRIFFITHS: What
began to transpire
643
00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:41,600
was that the chalice
had healing properties.
644
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:44,103
How they discovered
this is not known,
645
00:31:44,203 --> 00:31:47,073
but at some point in time,
the healing properties
646
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:48,074
became more apparent.
647
00:31:50,809 --> 00:31:52,611
ROBERT STACK: For many
years, Reverend Griffiths
648
00:31:52,711 --> 00:31:55,447
knew only the barest facts
about the Nanteos Cup.
649
00:31:55,547 --> 00:31:58,917
Than one night in 1988,
he had his first encounter
650
00:31:59,018 --> 00:32:02,788
with the mysterious
powers of the Grail.
651
00:32:02,888 --> 00:32:06,058
I was on itinerant
ministry during those days,
652
00:32:06,158 --> 00:32:10,062
and this particular day, I
was traveling to North Wales
653
00:32:10,162 --> 00:32:11,763
early in the morning.
654
00:32:11,863 --> 00:32:15,434
So I'd set a time of
rising at 6:00 AM.
655
00:32:15,534 --> 00:32:20,406
But at 4:00 AM, I was
awakened by a voice.
656
00:32:20,506 --> 00:32:22,341
The first time it
didn't register,
657
00:32:22,441 --> 00:32:25,144
and I heard a second
time the voice say,
658
00:32:25,244 --> 00:32:27,679
you will find the holy chalice.
659
00:32:31,483 --> 00:32:35,687
[phone ringing]
660
00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:38,557
ROBERT STACK: Before dawn that
very morning, a friend called.
661
00:32:38,657 --> 00:32:40,392
The friend suggested
that the Reverend
662
00:32:40,492 --> 00:32:42,961
include the Nanteos Cup
in a coming exhibition
663
00:32:43,062 --> 00:32:45,264
of Christian artifacts.
664
00:32:45,364 --> 00:32:46,698
He told Griffiths
he might learn more
665
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:52,071
about the cup at the ruined
abbey of Strata Florida.
666
00:32:52,171 --> 00:32:55,041
PETER GRIFFITHS: When I gave
the curator the details,
667
00:32:55,141 --> 00:32:59,311
I was amazed to find that he
was convinced of my experience,
668
00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:01,413
and he was more than
willing to help.
669
00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:04,450
But he made it to understand
that it was breaking a rule,
670
00:33:04,550 --> 00:33:06,618
because he had
promised the family
671
00:33:06,718 --> 00:33:09,188
that he would never
redirect anyone
672
00:33:09,288 --> 00:33:10,856
to their present location.
673
00:33:10,956 --> 00:33:14,926
Now the reason for this was
because the present cup owner's
674
00:33:15,027 --> 00:33:18,997
mother was sometimes inundated
with as many as 1,000
675
00:33:19,098 --> 00:33:22,201
visitors per week,
and as a result,
676
00:33:22,301 --> 00:33:23,735
she experienced a breakdown.
677
00:33:26,372 --> 00:33:27,706
ROBERT STACK: The
current owner of the cup,
678
00:33:27,806 --> 00:33:29,908
another direct descendant
of the Powell family,
679
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:33,579
lives in seclusion, protecting
her privacy as vigilantly
680
00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:37,316
as she guards the Nanteos Cup.
681
00:33:37,416 --> 00:33:39,318
GUARDIAN: As the guardian
of the Holy Grail,
682
00:33:39,418 --> 00:33:42,554
my duty is to safeguard
the cup at all times,
683
00:33:42,654 --> 00:33:47,426
but to allow people to drink
from it, to have water from it,
684
00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:49,895
and to send water to
people if they're ill.
685
00:33:52,898 --> 00:33:55,801
PETER GRIFFITHS: When I first
set eyes on the chalice,
686
00:33:55,901 --> 00:33:58,370
I was a little
disappointed, because it
687
00:33:58,470 --> 00:34:00,439
was only fragmentary.
688
00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:04,610
Perhaps there's only a third
of the original vessel left.
689
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:07,679
But when I handled
it, I had a total--
690
00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:10,516
totally different
appreciation of it.
691
00:34:10,616 --> 00:34:16,188
I can't describe
in human language
692
00:34:16,288 --> 00:34:18,190
the effect it had upon me--
693
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:22,328
as if I was already in paradise.
694
00:34:22,428 --> 00:34:23,729
ROBERT STACK: It is
precisely that feeling
695
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:26,332
of holiness that has led
many to believe the cup
696
00:34:26,432 --> 00:34:29,301
has the power to heal.
697
00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:30,902
The cup's guardian
gives water that
698
00:34:31,002 --> 00:34:33,905
has been poured over the
cup to Reverend Griffiths.
699
00:34:34,005 --> 00:34:36,408
He patched the holy water
on small prayer mats
700
00:34:36,508 --> 00:34:39,111
and sends them to those
who are sick and crippled.
701
00:34:39,211 --> 00:34:41,180
The reverend says
some of the results
702
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,416
have been nothing
short of miraculous.
703
00:34:44,516 --> 00:34:48,420
I have a regular
meal with a young man
704
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:54,126
who was once totally blind,
and today he has perfect sight.
705
00:34:54,226 --> 00:34:57,028
I cite one case of a
young man who was a leper.
706
00:34:57,129 --> 00:34:59,598
Had a leprous
condition for 11 years.
707
00:34:59,698 --> 00:35:02,801
But the following day, his
skin was perfectly clean
708
00:35:02,901 --> 00:35:05,604
from every trace of leprosy.
709
00:35:05,704 --> 00:35:09,708
We have many cases of
arthritics and rheumatics
710
00:35:09,808 --> 00:35:11,109
who have been healed--
711
00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:14,513
if not in the short-term,
in the long-term,
712
00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:18,717
for which they were told
originally there was no cure.
713
00:35:18,817 --> 00:35:22,488
ROBERT STACK: Marlene Sheckley
testifies to her own miracle.
714
00:35:22,588 --> 00:35:25,524
Well, like I would imagine,
it was everyone's nightmare.
715
00:35:25,624 --> 00:35:27,426
I was having a
shower one morning
716
00:35:27,526 --> 00:35:30,696
and I found a lump
in my left breast.
717
00:35:30,796 --> 00:35:31,997
ROBERT STACK: Marlene's
doctor believed
718
00:35:32,097 --> 00:35:33,765
the lump was cancerous.
719
00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:36,802
While waiting for a mammogram,
Marlene wore one of the prayer
720
00:35:36,902 --> 00:35:40,272
claws beneath her clothes.
721
00:35:40,372 --> 00:35:42,941
And then by the time I
went for the mammogram,
722
00:35:43,041 --> 00:35:44,810
everything was clear.
723
00:35:44,910 --> 00:35:48,247
The lump was still there but
there was nothing cancerous.
724
00:35:48,347 --> 00:35:51,417
The doctors did say that the
lump would still stay there,
725
00:35:51,517 --> 00:35:53,585
but after a week or
two the lump went,
726
00:35:53,685 --> 00:35:58,457
and I've had no further
problems since with that.
727
00:35:58,557 --> 00:36:00,659
PETER GRIFFITHS: The
results and the testimonies
728
00:36:00,759 --> 00:36:03,829
were so amazing,
that I knew then
729
00:36:03,929 --> 00:36:07,833
that behind my whole experience,
from the time when I heard
730
00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:11,737
the voice to this
present time, that I have
731
00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:16,675
no doubts whatsoever about the
authenticity of the chalice
732
00:36:16,775 --> 00:36:19,911
being the Holy Grail that
Jesus used at the Last Supper.
733
00:36:22,881 --> 00:36:25,717
ROBERT STACK: Is the
Nanteos Cup the Holy Grail?
734
00:36:25,817 --> 00:36:27,619
We may never know.
735
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,188
The cup has not been
carbon-dated or scientifically
736
00:36:30,289 --> 00:36:32,224
tested in any way.
737
00:36:32,324 --> 00:36:35,461
Its guardian fears such
testing might damage it.
738
00:36:38,430 --> 00:36:40,966
As it turns out, there are at
least half a dozen chalices
739
00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:42,834
scattered across
Europe that many claim
740
00:36:42,934 --> 00:36:44,803
are equally strong
contenders for the title
741
00:36:44,903 --> 00:36:46,738
of the true Grail.
742
00:36:46,838 --> 00:36:48,340
It is interesting
to note, however,
743
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,076
that the others are made of
more expensive materials--
744
00:36:51,176 --> 00:36:53,612
gold, bronze, and other metals.
745
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:57,316
The Nanteos Cup is simple
wood, precisely the kind of cup
746
00:36:57,416 --> 00:36:59,017
a humble carpenter
would drink from.
747
00:37:02,087 --> 00:37:04,923
Next, did television
star Michael Landon
748
00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:07,993
send a gift to his daughter
from beyond the grave?
749
00:37:08,093 --> 00:37:10,929
A compelling testament
to the power of love--
750
00:37:11,029 --> 00:37:12,230
the real Highway to Heaven.
751
00:37:20,171 --> 00:37:25,176
What do a Christmas
ornament, $300 in cash,
752
00:37:25,277 --> 00:37:29,281
and a fragile red
rose have in common?
753
00:37:29,381 --> 00:37:32,217
Some would say they were
all signs from Heaven,
754
00:37:32,318 --> 00:37:34,252
tangible gifts sent
from beyond the grave
755
00:37:34,353 --> 00:37:36,988
by television star
Michael Landon,
756
00:37:37,088 --> 00:37:40,659
grandfather Herman Stegos, and
college student Joe McCarthy.
757
00:37:44,863 --> 00:37:47,599
18-year-old Joe McCarthy
of Wausau, Wisconsin
758
00:37:47,699 --> 00:37:50,035
was a go-getter in every sense.
759
00:37:50,135 --> 00:37:53,104
A top-10 student in
his high school class.
760
00:37:53,204 --> 00:37:56,642
When it came time for
college, he chose Notre Dame.
761
00:37:56,742 --> 00:37:59,845
In June of 1987, Joe
had just returned
762
00:37:59,945 --> 00:38:01,980
home after his
freshman year when he
763
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,281
was killed in a car accident.
764
00:38:06,318 --> 00:38:08,454
When Joe died, there's--
765
00:38:08,554 --> 00:38:12,658
number one, there's emptiness
in your heart and in your mind,
766
00:38:12,758 --> 00:38:14,660
it's like where is he?
767
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,027
Is he OK?
768
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:17,195
I kept thinking
at the time, if he
769
00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:20,766
could only just talk to me.
770
00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:23,535
Just one time and--
771
00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:25,371
KATHLEEN MCCARTHY-DIXON:
Everyone's grieving around you
772
00:38:25,471 --> 00:38:28,807
and so you're thinking,
I wish I knew.
773
00:38:28,907 --> 00:38:30,175
It's just that thought--
774
00:38:30,275 --> 00:38:32,878
is he OK?
775
00:38:32,978 --> 00:38:34,279
ROBERT STACK: The
McCarthys didn't
776
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,648
actually expect an answer.
777
00:38:36,748 --> 00:38:39,385
Then three days
after the funeral,
778
00:38:39,485 --> 00:38:40,752
DENIS MCCARTHY: I was
going through the--
779
00:38:40,852 --> 00:38:43,355
through the basement out
into the-- into the garage
780
00:38:43,455 --> 00:38:47,993
and I saw the angel
that tops our Christmas
781
00:38:48,093 --> 00:38:48,894
tree laying there.
782
00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:56,735
Since Joe died in June and we
had the Christmas ornaments
783
00:38:56,835 --> 00:38:59,137
stored in an upstairs closet, I
thought it was kind of strange
784
00:38:59,237 --> 00:39:00,606
but didn't really think
a whole lot of it.
785
00:39:04,275 --> 00:39:06,745
KATHLEEN MCCARTHY-DIXON: Joe
used to kid me about vacuuming.
786
00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:09,047
It was like, Mom, if
you ever get to Heaven,
787
00:39:09,147 --> 00:39:10,449
there going to be
a vacuum up there,
788
00:39:10,549 --> 00:39:11,817
because you do it so much.
789
00:39:11,917 --> 00:39:15,186
I said, well, cleanliness is
next to godliness, right, kid?
790
00:39:15,286 --> 00:39:17,088
So I did, I vacuumed every day.
791
00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:18,123
I still do.
792
00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:20,325
And I saw something on the rug.
793
00:39:20,426 --> 00:39:23,895
And I picked it up and I just
thought, it was an ornament.
794
00:39:23,995 --> 00:39:25,163
And I just looked
at it and I thought,
795
00:39:25,263 --> 00:39:27,132
this is one of the ornaments
from the Christmas tree.
796
00:39:27,232 --> 00:39:28,567
Why is it here?
797
00:39:28,667 --> 00:39:29,568
And I just set it aside.
798
00:39:29,668 --> 00:39:31,637
I set it on a
shelf we had there.
799
00:39:31,737 --> 00:39:34,305
And I didn't think
much of it at the time.
800
00:39:34,406 --> 00:39:36,141
ROBERT STACK: That
evening, Dennis
801
00:39:36,241 --> 00:39:39,411
told Kathleen about the
angel he had discovered.
802
00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:41,547
It was right there in
the middle of the floor.
803
00:39:41,647 --> 00:39:44,215
I almost stepped on it.
804
00:39:44,315 --> 00:39:45,183
You know what?
805
00:39:45,283 --> 00:39:48,587
I found an angel today too.
806
00:39:48,687 --> 00:39:51,389
And I went and got it
and showed it to him.
807
00:39:51,490 --> 00:39:54,059
And it said-- it
said Joseph on it.
808
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:57,295
He said, it's a sign, he's OK.
809
00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:59,097
ROBERT STACK: The McCarthys
had four angel ornaments,
810
00:39:59,197 --> 00:40:02,634
each engraved with one of
their children's names.
811
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:06,938
This one remarkably
had been Joe's.
812
00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:08,406
DENIS MCCARTHY: I looked
at it and-- and saw
813
00:40:08,507 --> 00:40:10,175
Joe's name on there,
it was-- it was
814
00:40:10,275 --> 00:40:12,310
really an incredible feeling.
815
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:14,746
The fact that he-- that he
gave his-- his mother an angel
816
00:40:14,846 --> 00:40:17,449
and I an angel on the
same day, to me it was--
817
00:40:17,549 --> 00:40:20,051
was pretty powerful.
818
00:40:20,151 --> 00:40:21,520
ROBERT STACK: It
may seem amazing,
819
00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:25,023
but the McCarthys' experience
was hardly uncommon.
820
00:40:25,123 --> 00:40:26,992
Dr. Louis LaGrand
chronicles more
821
00:40:27,092 --> 00:40:29,961
than 50 similar
experiences in his book,
822
00:40:30,061 --> 00:40:33,632
"After Death Communication."
823
00:40:33,732 --> 00:40:38,770
LOUIS LAGRAND: This happens just
an innumerable amount of times.
824
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:41,840
And that's why we need to
validate these situations,
825
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:45,210
that's why we need to get
the general public to be more
826
00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:47,012
accepting and open to this.
827
00:40:47,112 --> 00:40:48,680
We can't explain it.
828
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:51,950
Science will never be
able to explain it.
829
00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:57,222
It's a gift to the heart,
and that's what explains it.
830
00:40:57,322 --> 00:40:59,190
ROBERT STACK: Indeed,
Heaven-sent signs
831
00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:01,793
seemed to come from
those with big hearts,
832
00:41:01,893 --> 00:41:03,495
people like Herman
Stegos, who was
833
00:41:03,595 --> 00:41:06,464
69 when he died unexpectedly.
834
00:41:06,565 --> 00:41:08,867
He was very close to his
grandchildren, especially
835
00:41:08,967 --> 00:41:11,737
his eldest grandson Anthony.
836
00:41:11,837 --> 00:41:14,706
Herman died just three
weeks before Christmas.
837
00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:18,343
His message arrived
with the holiday mail.
838
00:41:18,443 --> 00:41:20,478
Kids, present from Aunt Teri.
839
00:41:20,579 --> 00:41:22,848
When this package came,
it was kind of like--
840
00:41:22,948 --> 00:41:25,250
it was exciting for the kids,
because it took their mind
841
00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:27,653
off of, you know, the grieving.
842
00:41:27,753 --> 00:41:30,155
They opened up the packages,
the wrapping paper was all over,
843
00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:33,358
the shipping stuff was all over
my mother's living room floor.
844
00:41:33,458 --> 00:41:36,461
So I asked Anthony if he
could clean it up and take
845
00:41:36,562 --> 00:41:38,597
the box out of the garbage.
846
00:41:38,697 --> 00:41:39,798
ROBERT STACK: Anthony
was on his way
847
00:41:39,898 --> 00:41:44,135
out, when he suddenly
stopped in his tracks.
848
00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:48,640
He says his grandfather
spoke to him.
849
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:50,776
When I heard his
voice, it did freak
850
00:41:50,876 --> 00:41:53,244
me out, because it was scary.
851
00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:55,513
He said, Mom Pop
just told me I should
852
00:41:55,614 --> 00:41:57,115
look under the flap of the box.
853
00:41:57,215 --> 00:42:01,286
She just said,
quit playing around.
854
00:42:01,386 --> 00:42:03,488
She thought I was
playing a game.
855
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:04,623
But I wasn't.
856
00:42:04,723 --> 00:42:06,592
I said, Anthony,
throw the box out.
857
00:42:06,692 --> 00:42:07,959
I thought he was
playing with me.
858
00:42:08,059 --> 00:42:09,895
He said, no, Mom, you don't
understand, I heard him twice,
859
00:42:09,995 --> 00:42:13,298
he said look under the
flap, look under the flap.
860
00:42:13,398 --> 00:42:15,767
ROBERT STACK: Sure enough,
wedged in the bottom flaps
861
00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:18,036
of the box was an envelope.
862
00:42:18,136 --> 00:42:19,537
Look, it's-- it's a card!
863
00:42:19,638 --> 00:42:23,274
ROBERT STACK: Inside were three
crisp $100 bills, one each
864
00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:26,544
for Anthony, his
brother, and sister.
865
00:42:26,645 --> 00:42:28,246
Beth is convinced
the money would
866
00:42:28,346 --> 00:42:30,315
have been lost if
her father had not
867
00:42:30,415 --> 00:42:32,584
spoken from beyond the grave.
868
00:42:32,684 --> 00:42:34,119
Yeah!
869
00:42:34,219 --> 00:42:35,486
BETH ALAIMO: I think
that was the biggest
870
00:42:35,587 --> 00:42:36,922
message in the whole
thing, that, you know,
871
00:42:37,022 --> 00:42:39,457
Grandpa is still here and
Grandpa's still watching you
872
00:42:39,557 --> 00:42:41,793
and Grandpa's spending
the holidays with you.
873
00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:44,395
And I didn't leave and
I didn't abandon you,
874
00:42:44,495 --> 00:42:46,531
and this is the way that he
could tell them, you know,
875
00:42:46,632 --> 00:42:48,834
that I'm still here,
and this was a sure way
876
00:42:48,934 --> 00:42:50,168
of getting out his message--
877
00:42:50,268 --> 00:42:51,837
that you're not alone and
I'm still here with you
878
00:42:51,937 --> 00:42:52,904
and I still love you--
879
00:42:53,004 --> 00:42:55,774
each of you.
880
00:42:55,874 --> 00:42:59,778
LOUIS LAGRAND: To have had an
experience of this nature, when
881
00:42:59,878 --> 00:43:04,750
love is rekindled, the person
is able to reconnect with life
882
00:43:04,850 --> 00:43:08,053
again to get some energy back--
883
00:43:08,153 --> 00:43:12,457
to be able to look at themselves
in the mirror and say,
884
00:43:12,557 --> 00:43:17,729
maybe there is some meaning
to what has happened.
885
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:20,065
ROBERT STACK:
Meaningful yes, but were
886
00:43:20,165 --> 00:43:22,300
the experiences of Jo's
family and Herman's
887
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,037
family mere coincidences?
888
00:43:26,137 --> 00:43:28,640
Not at all says Michael
Landon's daughter Cheryl.
889
00:43:32,077 --> 00:43:36,081
In 1991, Michael Landon was
at the top of his career.
890
00:43:36,181 --> 00:43:38,116
He was a highly-regarded
star of "Highway
891
00:43:38,216 --> 00:43:40,185
to Heaven," in which
he played an angel
892
00:43:40,285 --> 00:43:42,854
sent to Earth to help people.
893
00:43:42,954 --> 00:43:44,656
Michael first became
well-known to us
894
00:43:44,756 --> 00:43:46,892
as Little Joe on "Bonanza."
895
00:43:46,992 --> 00:43:49,094
Then he played the lovable
father on "Little House
896
00:43:49,194 --> 00:43:50,829
on the Prairie."
897
00:43:50,929 --> 00:43:52,864
Cheryl says that
Michael Landon was not
898
00:43:52,964 --> 00:43:56,167
very different from the
characters he portrayed.
899
00:43:56,267 --> 00:43:58,103
CHERYL LANDON: There
was a warmth about him.
900
00:43:58,203 --> 00:44:00,238
There was this love,
the spontaneity.
901
00:44:00,338 --> 00:44:05,543
It was like he was my angel from
Heaven, my father from Heaven.
902
00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:08,413
ROBERT STACK: When Michael
Landon died of cancer in 1991
903
00:44:08,513 --> 00:44:13,584
at a youthful 54,
Cheryl was devastated.
904
00:44:13,685 --> 00:44:16,554
It was the greatest
loss of my life.
905
00:44:16,654 --> 00:44:21,960
My best friend, my
mentor, my protector,
906
00:44:22,060 --> 00:44:25,596
my guidance, everything.
907
00:44:25,697 --> 00:44:29,968
My security-- it was all gone.
908
00:44:30,068 --> 00:44:35,707
And I started hearing
my dad's voice.
909
00:44:35,807 --> 00:44:38,777
My father would come
to me in dreams.
910
00:44:38,877 --> 00:44:42,313
And I thought, boy, I must be
really grieving, because I'm
911
00:44:42,413 --> 00:44:44,182
hearing my dad's voice.
912
00:44:44,282 --> 00:44:46,584
I'm seeing him in my dreams.
913
00:44:46,684 --> 00:44:47,753
ROBERT STACK: Cheryl
vowed to carry
914
00:44:47,853 --> 00:44:50,388
on Michael's legacy of
emphasizing good deeds
915
00:44:50,488 --> 00:44:52,223
and good heartedness.
916
00:44:52,323 --> 00:44:53,691
Her first step
was writing a book
917
00:44:53,792 --> 00:44:56,427
called, "I Promised My Dad."
918
00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:58,696
As a publishing
deadline approached,
919
00:44:58,797 --> 00:45:01,499
Cheryl felt more and more
uneasy about the prospect
920
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:05,136
of promoting the book on
the talk show circuit.
921
00:45:05,236 --> 00:45:08,639
I remember going through
so much of the emotions
922
00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:10,909
and I really thought,
how could I go on
923
00:45:11,009 --> 00:45:13,278
and do these television
show successfully?
924
00:45:13,378 --> 00:45:17,783
And I very clearly heard my
father during the day say,
925
00:45:17,883 --> 00:45:20,151
when you go to do
your first show,
926
00:45:20,251 --> 00:45:23,755
I'm going to leave you
a long stem red rose.
927
00:45:23,855 --> 00:45:25,723
ROBERT STACK: A year
later, Cheryl found herself
928
00:45:25,824 --> 00:45:28,293
in Manhattan, nervously
preparing for her first talk
929
00:45:28,393 --> 00:45:29,194
show appearance.
930
00:45:29,294 --> 00:45:30,128
--dress.
931
00:45:30,228 --> 00:45:31,296
Think I should
wear this instead?
932
00:45:31,396 --> 00:45:32,764
ROBERT STACK: That's
when she says she heard
933
00:45:32,864 --> 00:45:36,267
Michael Landon's voice again.
934
00:45:36,367 --> 00:45:37,302
What's wrong?
935
00:45:37,402 --> 00:45:39,805
You've been so quiet
since we got here.
936
00:45:39,905 --> 00:45:41,907
Something really
amazing happened to me.
937
00:45:42,007 --> 00:45:43,008
What?
938
00:45:43,108 --> 00:45:45,476
Just now when I was
standing by the window,
939
00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:47,145
I heard his voice again.
940
00:45:47,245 --> 00:45:49,647
I mean, he was right there.
941
00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:54,085
And this time he told me to find
the fountain in Central Park.
942
00:45:54,185 --> 00:45:56,788
The strange part is that I knew
exactly where this fountain was
943
00:45:56,888 --> 00:45:58,689
and never being there before.
944
00:45:58,790 --> 00:46:02,460
It was like I was guided
exactly to this fountain.
945
00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:08,166
When I had gone down to the
bottom of the stairwell,
946
00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:11,870
there at my feet, exactly
where I had stopped,
947
00:46:11,970 --> 00:46:14,305
was a long stem red rose.
948
00:46:14,405 --> 00:46:17,342
This is just the way my
father said it would be.
949
00:46:17,442 --> 00:46:22,513
It was like I had discovered
a treasure of gold.
950
00:46:22,613 --> 00:46:25,750
I was so happy.
951
00:46:25,851 --> 00:46:29,420
I was so full of
encouragement, that it
952
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:37,362
was just like a boost of love,
a boost of encouragement.
953
00:46:37,462 --> 00:46:39,664
ROBERT STACK: Cheryl's friend,
who witnessed the moment,
954
00:46:39,764 --> 00:46:42,567
snapped this picture
to commemorate it.
955
00:46:42,667 --> 00:46:44,735
For Michael Landon's
daughter, it is
956
00:46:44,836 --> 00:46:46,537
a lasting reminder of his love.
957
00:46:49,841 --> 00:46:52,777
A single red rose, two
Christmas ornaments,
958
00:46:52,878 --> 00:46:55,646
a trio of $100 bills.
959
00:46:55,746 --> 00:46:58,416
Are the grief-stricken just too
willing to clutch at anything
960
00:46:58,516 --> 00:47:00,685
that might bring them comfort?
961
00:47:00,785 --> 00:47:01,953
Or is something else at work?
962
00:47:02,053 --> 00:47:05,056
Something beyond explanation?
963
00:47:05,156 --> 00:47:06,624
For the families
of Joe McCarthy,
964
00:47:06,724 --> 00:47:08,793
Herman Stegos, and
Michael Landon,
965
00:47:08,894 --> 00:47:11,096
no explanation is needed--
966
00:47:11,196 --> 00:47:13,298
They held the proof
in their hands.
967
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,509
Join me next time for
another compelling hour
968
00:47:24,609 --> 00:47:25,810
of "Unsolved Mysteries."
969
00:47:25,911 --> 00:47:29,147
[theme music]
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