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Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries.
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NARRATOR: He was a
once and future king,
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truly an American icon.
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But for 20 years, the
details of his untimely death
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have been cloaked in mystery.
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Now a trusted member of
Elvis Presley's inner circle
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has sparked a
stunning controversy.
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Is it possible that the
King of rock and roll
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took his own life.
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Is there a Bigfoot in
Florida's Everglades,
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or could the photographs,
footprints, and hair samples
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be an elaborate hoax.
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She was an eccentric
heiress known
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for her reclusive lifestyle, her
devotion to her 58 show dogs,
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and for occasionally
dressing like a man,
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then she disappeared.
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What happened to Camilla Lyman?
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Welcome to the house
on 37th Street.
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It may look perfectly
normal, but don't be fooled.
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The folks who live here
say their modest home
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is in fact haunted and
not by a single ghost,
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but by an entire gang
of restless spirits.
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Join me for these
intriguing stories and more.
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Perhaps, you may
be the one chosen
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by fate to solve a mystery.
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[music playing]
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He once reigned supreme as the
world's greatest entertainer,
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but on August 16, 1977, Elvis
Presley's remarkable life
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came to a shocking end.
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At first it was said he
died of a heart attack.
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Later reports suggested
a massive drug overdose.
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The mystery of
Elvis's death is so
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baffling that even
those closest to him
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can't agree on the cause.
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Yet Elvis' own stepbrother,
a trusted member
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of the inner circle,
maintains that the King's
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death was not accidental.
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He says that Elvis
committed suicide.
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DAVID STANLEY: Elvis
Presley woke up
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on the 16th of
August premeditated,
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planned, took and killed
himself deliberately.
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NARRATOR: But why?
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Why would a man who could
have anything and everything
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he desired take his own life?
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What dark secrets could bring
him to such a desperate act?
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Not surprisingly, most people
refuse to believe that Elvis
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Presley died by his own hand.
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However, David Stanley's
eyewitness account
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along with the
circumstantial evidence
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is compelling and
warrants a closer look.
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Tonight we'll hear both sides
of this ongoing controversy
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and learn the bizarre
and intriguing
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details of Elvis's final days
from those who knew him best.
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It had become part of Elvis
Presley's daily routine, three
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times a day on a strict
schedule, nearly a dozen
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different prescription
drugs, including
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Demerol and Seconal administered
by members of his entourage.
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According to insiders, this
dangerous cycle of drug use
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had his beginnings in 1958 when
Elvis was drafted into the army
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and sent overseas.
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RED WEST: I went to
Germany with him after I
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got out of the Marine Corps.
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NARRATOR: Bodyguard Red West
was a close friend of Elvis
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Presley's from
junior high school
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and was a key figure in
the biographical film
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Elvis, All the King's Men.
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RED WEST: He was on guard
duty on the Russian front,
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and if you went to sleep
during and got caught asleep,
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you were in trouble.
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So this Sergeant said take
these little things here.
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They'll keep you up.
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And wow, man, it started feeling
good, and that's how it began.
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NARRATOR: After his
army discharged,
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Elvis starred in a long
series of inconsequential
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but highly profitable movies.
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CHUCK HARTER: Elvis's
greatest desire
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was to be a serious
dramatic actor,
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and this was denied him, because
his management felt that they
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wouldn't make as
much money if they
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put him in a dramatic role.
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They wanted him to
be in the formula.
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So this depressed
him a great deal.
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NARRATOR: Frustrated by the
unsatisfying movie roles
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and overwhelmed by the
crushing demands of his fans,
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Elvis retreated
into a shadow world
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behind the gates of his
Memphis mansion Graceland.
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CHUCK HARTER: Elvis sort of
put himself into a cocoon.
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He surrounded himself with
paid friends for the most
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part called the Memphis Mafia.
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And Graceland more or less
became a tomb for him or a cave
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to go hide from life.
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The windows were sealed.
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The outside did not enter in.
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So his day to day
touch with reality
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had really been removed.
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DAVID STANLEY: The hardest
thing for Elvis was being Elvis.
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People say what do you think
the most difficult part
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of Elvis Presley's life was?
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Being Elvis Presley.
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Looking out a window seeing
10,000 people who think you
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can walk on water.
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Walking out on a stage and
seeing 22,000 flashbulbs going
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off thinking you are a king.
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NARRATOR: A combination of high
times on tour and isolation
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at home extracted
an unforeseen tole.
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Elvis's affairs,
absences, and drug use
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led to the end of his celebrated
six year marriage to Priscilla.
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The divorce punctured
the protective bubble
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around Elvis's carefully
maintained image.
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CHUCK HARTER: When
she did leave him,
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it wasn't so much that his
heart was broken that the love
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of his life is gone.
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It was more, because
he was Elvis,
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and Elvis always got his way.
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This time he didn't.
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DAVID STANLEY: He would get
himself in a rage over that.
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He would get himself so worked
up over it that he'd begin
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to take the medications to
deal with the depression
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of the rage.
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And then suddenly some shows
are starting to be canceled.
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NARRATOR: By the
mid-1970s, insiders
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say that Elvis's
dependency on drugs
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was so complete that he
required around the clock
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care and supervision.
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It was provided by David
Stanley and a group
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of men known as the Lifers.
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They catered to the
kings every need.
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DAVID STANLEY: We
were the ones who
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were with Elvis all the time.
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Elvis needs something
to eat Elvis needs to be
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woken up at a certain time.
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Elvis needs his medication.
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NARRATOR: A dangerous
and destructive routine
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of medication is administered
on a steady schedule
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to Elvis at his insistence.
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He received the drugs
in three separate doses
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that were called attacks.
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Each attack contained
numerous medications
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in pill or syringe form.
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Among them Valium, Nembutal,
Demerol, Quaalude, and Seconal.
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The first attack was
usually delivered
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between 2:00 and 3:00 AM.
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DAVID STANLEY: After
he'd take his attack--
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attack one, he
would have a couple
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of cheeseburgers, potatoes.
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Attack one effect would
get him groggy and sleepy.
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We would have to watch
Elvis, because sometimes he'd
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be eating and just fall asleep
with his food in his mouth,
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oftentimes choking on his
own-- on his own food.
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NARRATOR: After sleeping
for a few hours,
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Elvis would awaken
for attack two.
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DAVID STANLEY: That would
last for several hours,
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and now you're in
the morning hours.
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You're looking at 10 or 11.
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Then it'd be attack three,
which was the same contents
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of attack one and two.
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I mean, and so you're talking
about the time you got done,
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let's just call it 11
sleeping pills per attack.
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That's 33.
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Let's call it three
shots of Demerol per.
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That's nine shots, and some
people would say, well,
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golly, that's six months worth.
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That was a nightly dose.
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RED WEST: I talked
to him about drugs,
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and I said you don't
need this stuff.
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He said, nah ah, you're wrong.
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I do need it.
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I looked at him.
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I said, your serious?
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You really need this stuff.
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He said, that's right.
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I need it.
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And that's when I threw
my hand up and said,
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I've done all I can do.
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And I was gone
shortly thereafter.
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NARRATOR: David Stanley says
he also tried to intervene
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to save Elvis from himself.
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But the King didn't welcome
these intrusions of reality.
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No, you don't got
to have you shots.
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You don't tell me anything.
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I'm telling you right
now you work for me,
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and I've got to have my shot.
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You pay me to take care of
you, and I can't do it tonight.
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Who do you think you are, man?
I'm telling you right now.
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I want my shot.
- No.
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No, you can't.
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Right now.
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DAVID STANLEY: Now I knew
Elvis wouldn't have shot me,
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but I knew right then we have
got a serious, serious drug
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problem here.
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NARRATOR: Elvis depression
deepened in the weeks
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prior to his death.
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Despite the millions he'd
made, he was short of money.
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His manager had booked another
tour, which Elvis was dreading.
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He was visibly overweight,
in poor health,
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and then a final
humiliation rock
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and roll's greatest sex symbol
was now reportedly impotent.
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Perhaps, Elvis was most
despondent about a book
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some former employees, including
Red West were about to publish.
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The book chronicled their years
in the King's inner circle.
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Their revelations
threatened to expose
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the secret Elvis, the
one his adoring fans knew
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nothing about.
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CHUCK HARTER: This would be the
first time that the fans saw
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him overweight,
not looking good,
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with the knowledge of
what the book contained.
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And it was, oh my
god, they'll know.
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And he knew the whistle had
been blown on his clean image,
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and he was terrified.
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DAVID STANLEY: And you
could just look at him
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and see the depression.
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You could see the,
god, I don't know
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if it's worth
going on mentality,
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kind of, dreading
the tour one day.
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I don't want to go on a tour.
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They were going to think this.
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They were going to think that.
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He was just really confused.
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David, come over
here and pray with me.
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Come over here and kneel down.
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DAVID STANLEY: In the last
days, he was really searching.
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He was digging into it.
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He was looking for the answer.
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He was looking for a way out.
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The last time I saw Elvis,
he said goodbye to me.
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He was crying.
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I love you.
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He hugged me.
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I'll never ever see you again.
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The next time you see
me will be in a higher
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place in a different plane.
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NARRATOR: The exact sequence
of events is still a mystery,
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but this much is known
about Elvis's last day,
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it was suspiciously
different in several ways.
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He ignored his usual
late night feast.
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He was given his three attack
envelopes, nearly three dozen
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pills and nine syringes full of
Demerol at their usual times,
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but he left them untouched.
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Elvis's girlfriend Ginger
Alden was the last person
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to see him alive.
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According to reports, around
9:30 AM, Elvis got out of bed
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and went to the
bathroom to read.
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That's where Elvis's body
was found a few hours later.
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Paramedics were already there by
the time David Stanley arrived.
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DAVID STANLEY: I looked and
saw Elvis in the fetal position
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and knew he was gone.
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First thing I said is
you son of a bitch.
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I knew right there and then
at that time that Elvis said,
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I am out of here.
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David says he found
all three attack
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envelopes and several Demerol
syringes nearly empty.
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He believes Elvis took all
three attacks simultaneously.
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The purpose, to end his life.
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The official autopsy
found that Elvis
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died of an irregular
heartbeat due to
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severe cardiovascular disease.
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DR. KEVIN MERIGIAN: I don't
think there's any evidence
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that there was a
tremendous amount of drug
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abuse or anything, misuse.
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NARRATOR: Dr. Kevin
Merigian is a well-known
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clinical pharmacologist.
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He has studied the
official coroner's
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toxicology report that was
released to the public.
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DR. KEVIN MERIGIAN: I know
there's been a lot of theories,
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and there's been a
lot of conjecture.
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There's always a
debate that, kind of,
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adds to the mystique of Elvis.
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But he didn't die
of an overdose.
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He died of some event
probably cardiac in origin.
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DAVID STANLEY: Good Lord.
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That'd kill an animal, kill
a cow, that much medication.
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So when I talk to
you about this,
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I am not looking for reasons
to back up what I believe.
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I am telling you what
I know, and the fact
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is that much medication
will kill you.
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And Elvis knew that,
especially because he
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knew the physicians desk
reference, because he
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was educated on drugs.
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He knew that that
would take him out.
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RED WEST: Now, only Elvis
can tell you what he
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was thinking that last night.
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David Stanley can't tell
you what he was thinking.
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I can't tell you
what he was thinking.
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Doctors can look
at all the charts
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that they want to look at,
but it's not going to tell
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you what Elvis was thinking.
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I know him like a book.
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I know he was religious,
and I know what he would do
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and what he wouldn't do.
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And he would not kill
himself purposely.
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NARRATOR: Did Elvis
Presley take his own life?
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The controversy may
one day be settled.
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Elvis's father,
Vernon, reportedly
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commissioned a private autopsy
after the official report
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was completed.
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Exactly what those doctors
found is still unknown.
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At Vernon's request,
the results will remain
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sealed until the year 2027.
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The Florida Everglades, hot,
humid, mosquito infested
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swamp land, an exotic setting
for some unusual creatures
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and some unusual people too.
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For eight months, David Shealy
has sat all alone in the middle
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of a swamp looking for
a legendary creature
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said to roam the Everglades,
Florida's answer to Bigfoot.
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David's quest began in 1973.
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He was just 10 when he and
his older brother, Jack,
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trekked through the swamps
near Ochopee, 75 miles west
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of Miami.
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It was a muggy day he
would never forget.
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Look, that's where I
caught that snake before.
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That thing was huge.
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DAVID SHEALY: My brother noticed
something in the distance.
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And he said to me--
he said what's that?
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What is that over there?
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What is it man?
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Let me see.
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Let me see.
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All right.
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All right.
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DAVID SHEALY: And
I couldn't see it,
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because the grass was too high.
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So he had to pick me up where
I could get a better look.
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And when I looked out
across the prairie,
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I could see a huge figure
probably eight feet tall,
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maybe 300 pounds.
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It was walking on two legs
like a man would walk.
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Oh, man.
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That's like a giant skunk ape.
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DAVID SHEALY: I knew it
had to be the skunk ape.
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NARRATOR: Skunk ape, just the
sound of it brings a smile.
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The idea of a creature
larger than a gorilla
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with an odor like a skunk
might seem far fetched.
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But since that
time 25 years ago,
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David Shealy has spent
his free time searching
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for this elusive creature.
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Is a skunk ape the product
of a fertile imagination
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nourished by the hot steamy
nights of the Everglades,
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or is it real?
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Folks, you sure picked a
beautiful day for your trip
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through the Everglades.
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NARRATOR: July
19th 1997, started
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out as an ordinary
day for Everglades
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tour guide John Vickers.
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JOHN VICKERS: We're driving a
bus down to Turner River Road,
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and I'm pointing out wildlife.
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There if you look
over to your right,
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you'll see a couple
of the alligators
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taking their afternoon nap.
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JOHN VICKERS: And all of
a sudden about 200 yards
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in front of our bus, a creature
hairy, standing upright on
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its hind legs crossed the road.
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At this point, one
of the passengers
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taps me on the shoulder.
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What was that?
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Well, I'm not sure.
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It's nothing to worry about.
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I think it's probably
the old man that
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lives out in the Everglades.
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JOHN VICKERS: I don't
think he bought that.
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NARRATOR: A total of
five people on the bus
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claim they saw what John saw.
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JOHN VICKERS: I don't
know whether it was a--
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the real skunk ape or
whether it was a hoax,
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but it's something real.
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NARRATOR: John and his group
are not the only ones to see
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the odd creature that week.
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Two days later, local
real estate agent Jan
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Brock was on her way to work.
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JAN BROCK: I was driving
probably about 7:30, 7:45
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in the morning, and I
noticed something getting
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ready to cross the road.
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My first thought was
that it had to be a bear.
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And this particular
time, I looked and I was
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like something was not right.
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The animal just, kind of,
scurried off across the road,
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and that's when I realized
it couldn't have been a bear.
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I wasn't sure what I saw and
didn't really want people
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to think I was a little nuts, so
I didn't say anything about it.
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NARRATOR: Fire chief
Vince Doerr left
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for work slightly later Jan.
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He and Jan are neighbors.
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VINCE DOERR: I seen
something go across the road.
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It wasn't dressed in regular
shirt and pants like a man.
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It was more brown or looked
more like a bear color.
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But I knew it wasn't a bear,
because it was walking upright.
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So I speeded up, got
up into that area.
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I got out.
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I yelled out.
- Hey.
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VINCE DOERR: And it
stopped and turned.
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And at that time, I
snapped one photograph.
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NARRATOR: This was the actual
photograph of the creature
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taken by Vince Doerr.
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JAN BROCK: I saw the picture
that Vince had taken,
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and that was the
same thing I saw.
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VINCE DOERR: Jan seen
it, so that made me feel
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like I wasn't seeing things.
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JAN BROCK: When you hear
people talking about what
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they saw and then you
actually see it yourself,
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obviously, you're going
to believe that there's
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something out there.
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NARRATOR: A year has gone by.
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It is now September of 1998.
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David Shealy keeps up
his long eight month
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vigil hoping to
obtain his own proof
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of the skunk apes existence.
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DAVID SHEALY: I was sitting in
my tree stand and I dozed off.
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And I heard something
splashing in the water,
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and it sounded like a
person walking towards me.
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When I looked up there
it was coming right at me
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at about 100 yards away.
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I started taking
pictures right away.
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I took 27 photographs
over a period
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of about three or four minutes
as it crossed the marsh.
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I couldn't believe what I saw.
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It was almost ghostly.
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And it wasn't until the next
day when I took the camera
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to the developer that I
realized that I had actually
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captured a skunk ape on film.
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NARRATOR: With his photographs,
David knew he needed
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some sort of corroboration.
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He called upon Dade County
archaeologist Bob Carr
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to study his pictures.
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BOB CARR: These photographs
were very compelling.
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The statue, the size, the
motion of this creature
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did not appear to
be a human being.
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And the suggestion of the
gate is very primate-like.
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I think there are enough
details to make one realize
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that this would have to be
a very, very clever hoax
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to be perpetrated.
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NARRATOR: Now Bob
Carr felt he should
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get some more verification.
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He brought in Everglades
tracker TL Riggs.
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T.L. RIGGS: On two
occasions, I found
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footprints in the soft earth.
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All the tracks that I saw
at that particular time
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only the ball of the
foot and the toe showed.
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There were none that showed
that a heel had been left down.
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NARRATOR: Riggs made plaster
castings of the footprints.
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T.L. RIGGS: Looking at just the
front end of the foot, which
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is all we can do, I would
say that it would have
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to weigh at least 300 pounds.
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NARRATOR: TL Riggs
came up with an idea
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for gathering more evidence.
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He wanted to collect
hair samples,
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so he snapped a
number of branches
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at a height of four to five
feet, far too high a reach
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for most animals,
that way he could snag
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some hair should a skunk
ape come in contact
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with the jagged edges.
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T.L. RIGGS: By setting a great
number of those along trails,
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I've been able to harvest
several legitimate
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looking hairs that are unlike
anything I've ever seen.
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NARRATOR: Was the hair
collected by TL Riggs
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from some unknown
creature or simply
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from a man in an ape suit?
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Unsolved Mysteries had
two samples to a lab
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at Trinity University
in San Antonio, Texas.
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BOB CARR: In my
mind, the evidence
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we've looked at from Ochopee
indicates there's definitely
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a phenomenon that's real.
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What we don't know is
what that phenomenon is.
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We are closer to the answer
probably than we've ever been,
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but the answer will only come
when the hair is analyzed
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and DNA is extracted.
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And then we will know the
molecular and genetic footprint
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and who and what this
creature might be.
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NARRATOR: We are still waiting
for the results of the DNA
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tests, however
electron microscopy has
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ruled out synthetic
fibers as might
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be used in an ape costume.
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So far many mammals have been
eliminated as well, including
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bears, gorillas,
chimpanzees, skunks,
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dogs and cats and humans.
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We'll update the story when the
DNA results become available.
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[music playing]
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NARRATOR: Coming up, one
day a millionaire heiress
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disappeared.
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10 years later, police
discovered her body
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in a mysterious and a
mysterious double life.
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Who killed Camilla
Lyman and why?
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September 24 1997, Hopkinton,
Rhode Island, dog breeder Greg
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Siner was cleaning out the
kennels on his new estate when
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he made a shocking discovery.
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GREG SINER: I was
hosing down the kennel,
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and I smelled a foul
odor and thought
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that maybe the septic system
wasn't working properly.
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I decided to look inside to
see if it needed to be pumped.
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And when I did there was a skull
staring straight back up at me.
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Once I saw the bottom jaw,
I realized it was human
490
00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:24,797
and just knew that
this was Camilla.
491
00:24:24,897 --> 00:24:26,999
NARRATOR: Millionaire heiress
Camilla Lyman, the estate's
492
00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:32,304
previous owner, 10 years earlier
she had mysteriously vanished.
493
00:24:32,404 --> 00:24:35,074
In October 1998, dental
records confirmed
494
00:24:35,174 --> 00:24:36,843
the skull was Camilla's.
495
00:24:36,943 --> 00:24:39,378
Police determined
she'd been murdered.
496
00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:43,215
A missing persons case has
suddenly become a homicide.
497
00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,552
Ironically the clues to
Camilla Lyman's murder
498
00:24:45,652 --> 00:24:48,721
might not be found in the
bizarre nature of her death,
499
00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:51,357
but in the strange and
mysterious nature of her life.
500
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,228
Camilla Lyman grew up rich.
501
00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:59,632
Her parents were old
money Boston aristocrats.
502
00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:03,235
Camilla shared her father's
passion for show dogs.
503
00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:05,538
Arthur Lyman soon
discovered that his youngest
504
00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:08,240
daughter had quite a gift.
505
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:09,576
MARY MARGARET GOODALE:
In the dog world,
506
00:25:09,676 --> 00:25:10,743
she was very successful.
507
00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:14,013
She was a good handler
and she was a good breeder
508
00:25:14,113 --> 00:25:17,383
and she showed her
dogs extremely well.
509
00:25:17,483 --> 00:25:20,920
She was very proficient.
510
00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,790
NARRATOR: Camilla never
dated, never married.
511
00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:25,958
Her dogs were her life.
512
00:25:26,058 --> 00:25:28,527
A solitary spinster, she
lived with her parents
513
00:25:28,628 --> 00:25:31,130
on their 100 acre estate.
514
00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:34,166
Arthur Lyman died in 1968.
515
00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:36,836
When Camilla's mother
died five years later,
516
00:25:36,936 --> 00:25:39,338
her world seemed to fall apart.
517
00:25:39,438 --> 00:25:45,845
40, alone, her behavior
became more and more bizarre.
518
00:25:45,945 --> 00:25:49,616
MARY MARGARET GOODALE:
Probably in middle to late 70s,
519
00:25:49,716 --> 00:25:52,318
it began to be apparent
that the Westward
520
00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:56,623
Place was not being taken
care of the way it should be.
521
00:25:56,723 --> 00:25:57,824
Good babies.
522
00:25:57,924 --> 00:25:58,825
My sweeties.
523
00:25:58,925 --> 00:26:00,192
NARRATOR: Camilla
became a recluse.
524
00:26:00,292 --> 00:26:03,963
She spent more time with her
dogs than she did with people.
525
00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:06,866
Camilla's appearance
began to change as well.
526
00:26:06,966 --> 00:26:10,703
She bought animal steroids,
then took them herself.
527
00:26:10,803 --> 00:26:11,938
Her voice deepened.
528
00:26:12,038 --> 00:26:14,006
She developed facial hair.
529
00:26:14,106 --> 00:26:16,909
She began wearing
men's clothing.
530
00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:20,046
To the outside world,
Camilla had been transformed
531
00:26:20,146 --> 00:26:22,749
into a middle aged man.
532
00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:24,116
MARY MARGARET GOODALE:
And then my sister
533
00:26:24,216 --> 00:26:25,718
in California called
me up and said,
534
00:26:25,818 --> 00:26:29,188
hey, Camilla's on the TV dressed
as a man, what do you think?
535
00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:33,926
And I said, well, I'd heard
that she did sometimes do that.
536
00:26:34,026 --> 00:26:37,296
NARRATOR: In this rare
video shot in 1978,
537
00:26:37,396 --> 00:26:39,799
Camilla was dressed as a woman.
538
00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:44,937
By 1985, she'd legally
changed her name Cam Lyman
539
00:26:45,037 --> 00:26:48,340
and was dressing as a man.
540
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,877
MARY MARGARET GOODALE:
It was shocking in a way
541
00:26:50,977 --> 00:26:52,544
and very surprising.
542
00:26:52,645 --> 00:26:56,883
But because of your respect
for people's privacy,
543
00:26:56,983 --> 00:27:00,619
unless Camilla wished to
explain why she was doing this,
544
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,388
we didn't ask any
questions about it.
545
00:27:02,488 --> 00:27:05,892
We just accepted
it the way it was.
546
00:27:05,992 --> 00:27:07,626
GREG SINER: I remember
people talking about Camilla,
547
00:27:07,727 --> 00:27:12,598
and the changing of her
clothing and her appearance.
548
00:27:12,699 --> 00:27:15,902
But you have to remember
you are dog shows.
549
00:27:16,002 --> 00:27:18,337
You're judging dogs, not people.
550
00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:20,606
I think Camilla felt
very comfortable
551
00:27:20,707 --> 00:27:21,808
amongst her dog friends.
552
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:28,748
NARRATOR: In the early 1980s
now dressing as a man isolated
553
00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:32,284
from her family, Cam became
friends with fellow dog
554
00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:35,221
lover George O'Neill.
555
00:27:35,321 --> 00:27:37,456
CHARLES ALLEN:
George O'Neill became
556
00:27:37,556 --> 00:27:41,393
the sole confidant,
adviser, accountant,
557
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:43,796
and representative of Camilla.
558
00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:46,265
Cam, we don't have the
money to do this right now.
559
00:27:46,365 --> 00:27:47,867
CHARLES ALLEN: He took
care of paying her bills.
560
00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:49,435
He took care of
arranging for her
561
00:27:49,535 --> 00:27:53,305
to get to dog shows and many
times getting her to the shows.
562
00:27:53,405 --> 00:27:59,045
He was a friend who she
socialized with and had
563
00:27:59,145 --> 00:28:01,413
great confidence in
his abilities to help
564
00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:03,615
her conduct her affairs.
565
00:28:03,716 --> 00:28:04,516
In the car.
566
00:28:04,616 --> 00:28:06,418
Let's go in the car.
567
00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:07,787
CHARLES ALLEN: As
George O'Neill took
568
00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:11,724
over more and more duties
and chores for Camilla,
569
00:28:11,824 --> 00:28:13,259
he became her sole confidant.
570
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,730
She associated with no one
other than George O'Neill.
571
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:19,398
Camilla became more
and more eccentric.
572
00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:21,233
She would often
carry a briefcase
573
00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:22,802
with hundreds of
thousands of dollars
574
00:28:22,902 --> 00:28:24,470
and large amounts
of jewelry in it.
575
00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:28,174
She would go out to the store
and have $10,000 in her pocket
576
00:28:28,274 --> 00:28:29,809
to buy a quart of milk.
577
00:28:29,909 --> 00:28:31,610
MARY MARGARET GOODALE: No,
I don't know what to think.
578
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:32,678
I really don't know.
579
00:28:32,779 --> 00:28:35,714
NARRATOR: December
1987, Camilla's friends
580
00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:38,650
didn't receive their
usual Christmas card.
581
00:28:38,751 --> 00:28:41,487
Camilla hadn't been
heard from for months.
582
00:28:41,587 --> 00:28:44,723
Concerned, the family
contacted the law firm
583
00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:46,926
in charge of the Lyman trust.
584
00:28:47,026 --> 00:28:50,362
They in turn hired
Charles Allen.
585
00:28:50,462 --> 00:28:52,999
CHARLES ALLEN: They
were very concerned,
586
00:28:53,099 --> 00:28:57,003
because checks that had been
sent to Camilla had rather
587
00:28:57,103 --> 00:28:58,971
than being endorsed
with her signature
588
00:28:59,071 --> 00:29:01,874
were being endorsed with
an account number of a bank
589
00:29:01,974 --> 00:29:05,311
account in Rhode Island.
590
00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:06,645
NARRATOR: Allen
claims that George
591
00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:10,049
O'Neill had been depositing
Camilla's trust fund checks.
592
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:12,551
He was surprised to
discover O'Neil held
593
00:29:12,651 --> 00:29:14,987
Camilla's power of attorney.
594
00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:18,190
Even more surprising
to Allen, George O'Neil
595
00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:20,993
was Camilla's sole
beneficiary and stood
596
00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:23,295
to inherit her estate.
597
00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:24,330
Yeah.
598
00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,298
Mr. O'neil, my name
is Charles Allen.
599
00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:28,835
I'm here to inquire
about Camilla Lyman.
600
00:29:28,935 --> 00:29:29,902
I haven't seen her
601
00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:31,270
CHARLES ALLEN: Mr.
O'Neil did not express
602
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:33,272
any concern for her safety.
603
00:29:33,372 --> 00:29:36,475
He felt that she
had done this before
604
00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:39,812
and that she had just
gone off on a trip.
605
00:29:39,912 --> 00:29:41,814
I understand all of that.
606
00:29:41,914 --> 00:29:43,615
NARRATOR: Reportedly,
O'Neil claimed
607
00:29:43,715 --> 00:29:47,086
he'd last spoken with
Camilla in July in 1987,
608
00:29:47,186 --> 00:29:49,055
a full year earlier.
609
00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:51,657
In the middle of an
argument, she hung up on him.
610
00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:56,462
CHARLES ALLEN: He told me
that on the following day
611
00:29:56,562 --> 00:30:00,933
he went to Camilla's house and
found the telephone ripped out
612
00:30:01,033 --> 00:30:04,503
of the wall and found
no sign of Camilla
613
00:30:04,603 --> 00:30:10,176
and found her dogs unattended,
unfed, and found the kennel
614
00:30:10,276 --> 00:30:13,379
somewhat in disarray.
615
00:30:13,479 --> 00:30:16,448
Mr. O'Neill indicated
that he felt
616
00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:18,550
that Camilla may have
gone off to Europe
617
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:22,388
to have a sex change operation.
618
00:30:22,488 --> 00:30:25,257
NARRATOR: Camilla had been
missing for over a year.
619
00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:27,593
No police report had been filed.
620
00:30:27,693 --> 00:30:30,496
Nobody in the family
had been notified.
621
00:30:30,596 --> 00:30:33,900
Yet, according to Charles
Allen, George O'Neil continued
622
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,869
to deposit Camilla's checks.
623
00:30:36,969 --> 00:30:38,037
CHARLES ALLEN: I
found it very hard
624
00:30:38,137 --> 00:30:40,372
to believe that a woman
who didn't like going
625
00:30:40,472 --> 00:30:43,442
to the dentist, who didn't
like going to the doctor
626
00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:47,346
would go off to Europe and
have a sex change operation.
627
00:30:47,446 --> 00:30:49,415
This woman didn't
like leaving her home.
628
00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:52,118
Here in the main kennel,
we have room for 50 dogs.
629
00:30:52,218 --> 00:30:53,752
NARRATOR: George
O'Neil hired full time
630
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:55,888
caretakers for the kennels.
631
00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:58,624
Greg Siner says O'Neil
began showing Camilla's
632
00:30:58,724 --> 00:31:01,260
champion Spaniel as his own.
633
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,361
Clean them out.
634
00:31:02,461 --> 00:31:04,396
GREG SINER: Camilla
was no longer around,
635
00:31:04,496 --> 00:31:07,466
but the dog was still out
there being campaigned.
636
00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:10,536
And he was now campaigned
under the ownership
637
00:31:10,636 --> 00:31:14,006
of George and June O'Neil.
638
00:31:14,106 --> 00:31:16,442
NARRATOR: Charles Allen
claims that much of Camilla's
639
00:31:16,542 --> 00:31:19,678
net worth from bank
accounts to family heirlooms
640
00:31:19,778 --> 00:31:22,748
had simply disappeared.
641
00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:24,250
CHARLES ALLEN: We're
talking about between $3
642
00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:26,218
and $5 million dollars here.
643
00:31:26,318 --> 00:31:28,454
Some of that was in antiques.
644
00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:29,421
Some of it was in money.
645
00:31:29,521 --> 00:31:31,257
Some of it was in stock.
646
00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:35,962
And its whereabouts are
unknown at this time.
647
00:31:36,062 --> 00:31:37,696
NARRATOR: And then
there was the question
648
00:31:37,796 --> 00:31:40,466
of Camilla's beloved dogs.
649
00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:42,368
MARY MARGARET GOODALE: When
I first heard George O'Neil's
650
00:31:42,468 --> 00:31:46,105
story, I absolutely
never crossed my mind
651
00:31:46,205 --> 00:31:47,306
that it was a true story.
652
00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:50,076
Because she never ever
would have left her dogs.
653
00:31:50,176 --> 00:31:52,378
It was totally out of character.
654
00:31:52,478 --> 00:31:53,712
Any chance that
we could maybe go
655
00:31:53,812 --> 00:31:55,681
over and get on the property,
maybe take a look around.
656
00:31:55,781 --> 00:31:56,748
She's not there.
657
00:31:56,848 --> 00:31:58,017
I'm telling you she's not there.
658
00:31:58,117 --> 00:31:59,351
CHARLES ALLEN: On a
number of occasions,
659
00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:01,187
I wanted to search the property.
660
00:32:01,287 --> 00:32:02,588
And this search
would have certainly
661
00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:04,957
included the septic
system, but George O'Neil
662
00:32:05,057 --> 00:32:05,857
would not allow it.
663
00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:12,898
NARRATOR: In December 1994,
a probate hearing was held.
664
00:32:12,999 --> 00:32:16,768
Camilla "Cam" Lyman was
declared legally dead.
665
00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:22,574
Three years later, her body
was found in the septic tank.
666
00:32:22,674 --> 00:32:24,543
MARY MARGARET GOODALE: The
fact that we could bury Camilla
667
00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:30,382
and physically put an end to
her life in a peaceful way
668
00:32:30,482 --> 00:32:33,485
was a wonderful sense
of closure for us.
669
00:32:33,585 --> 00:32:39,458
On the other hand, there's still
more that we need to pursue.
670
00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:41,627
We need to bring the
person who committed
671
00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:48,567
this unbelievable
crime to justice.
672
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:51,837
A strange life, a
mysterious death,
673
00:32:51,937 --> 00:32:53,939
a family searching for answers.
674
00:32:54,040 --> 00:33:10,956
[music playing]
675
00:33:11,057 --> 00:33:13,859
NARRATOR: Next, he's no
ordinary investigator,
676
00:33:13,959 --> 00:33:16,228
but this is no ordinary case.
677
00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:19,831
Join us for his spine tingling
tour of a real haunted house.
678
00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:29,675
It seemed like a nice
house on a nice street
679
00:33:29,775 --> 00:33:31,610
in a nice neighborhood.
680
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:34,280
Nothing extraordinary
about it at all,
681
00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:37,783
or so thought Ed and Mary
Woods of Vancouver, Washington.
682
00:33:37,883 --> 00:33:41,153
But that was before the peculiar
noises and the eerie encounters
683
00:33:41,253 --> 00:33:42,854
with things that go
bump in the night.
684
00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:49,828
At first it was almost
imperceptible, a quiet rattle,
685
00:33:49,928 --> 00:33:53,532
a slight chill, the barest
whisper of a presence,
686
00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:56,568
until some seven months
after Ed and Mary moved in.
687
00:34:00,306 --> 00:34:03,775
MARY WOODS: I've heard
the sound of music box.
688
00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:07,913
It was very faint.
689
00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:19,891
I went into my husband's
office and looked around.
690
00:34:22,661 --> 00:34:27,366
There was no sign of anything
in there, but I kept hearing it.
691
00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:30,736
And it wasn't something
I heard in my mind
692
00:34:30,836 --> 00:34:32,371
like you would imagine it.
693
00:34:32,471 --> 00:34:35,207
It was an actual
sound in the house.
694
00:34:35,307 --> 00:34:37,876
I thought somebody had
opened up a music box,
695
00:34:37,976 --> 00:34:39,645
and it was playing.
696
00:34:39,745 --> 00:34:42,348
ED WOODS: The first time I had
an experience where I noticed
697
00:34:42,448 --> 00:34:46,051
something actually happening
I was sitting in my office
698
00:34:46,152 --> 00:34:46,952
with the door closed.
699
00:34:55,494 --> 00:34:57,296
NARRATOR: Mary had warned
Ed that there was something
700
00:34:57,396 --> 00:34:59,498
very odd about the house.
701
00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:04,170
But Ed just assumed his
daughter was playing a prank.
702
00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:07,639
ED WOODS: I thought I'd surprise
her by opening the door,
703
00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:09,975
and there was nobody there.
704
00:35:10,075 --> 00:35:12,144
And I checked and everyone
in the house was asleep.
705
00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:17,249
MARY WOODS: I called
University of Washington,
706
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:20,152
because they have a
seismograph station down here
707
00:35:20,252 --> 00:35:21,720
in Vancouver
monitoring the fault
708
00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:24,856
lines from Mount Saint Helens.
709
00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:27,226
They told me at that
time there were no fault
710
00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,060
lines running through the area.
711
00:35:29,161 --> 00:35:30,729
There was no
underground aquifer.
712
00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:34,266
There was no weakness
that could account
713
00:35:34,366 --> 00:35:36,368
for any type of movement
in the house other
714
00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:38,504
than normal settling that
will happen with the house
715
00:35:38,604 --> 00:35:39,405
as it gets older.
716
00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:46,445
NARRATOR: But if mother nature
wasn't responsible, then who
717
00:35:46,545 --> 00:35:49,114
or what was stirring
up all the trouble.
718
00:35:49,215 --> 00:35:50,749
Mary was about to find out.
719
00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:01,627
MARY WOODS: I actually
saw the figure of a woman.
720
00:36:01,727 --> 00:36:05,664
She was about my height
wearing a scarf around her head
721
00:36:05,764 --> 00:36:09,768
and like a long
flannel nightgown.
722
00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:11,503
I was not scared of her.
723
00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:15,474
I did not get the impression
that she was mean.
724
00:36:15,574 --> 00:36:17,343
I was startled.
725
00:36:17,443 --> 00:36:18,910
I mean, you have something
come out of the hall
726
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:20,912
and you're going, OK.
727
00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:23,081
But, no, I was not
frightened of her.
728
00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:25,917
I was startled by her.
729
00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:27,653
NARRATOR: After
several encounters,
730
00:36:27,753 --> 00:36:29,488
Mary decided to do
a little research.
731
00:36:32,324 --> 00:36:33,892
MARY WOODS: I have been
able to identify her
732
00:36:33,992 --> 00:36:35,427
through going through records.
733
00:36:35,527 --> 00:36:40,466
She was a former resident
who had died in the home
734
00:36:40,566 --> 00:36:41,700
of a prolonged illness.
735
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,769
She had died of cancer.
736
00:36:43,869 --> 00:36:45,604
The latter part of the--
737
00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:48,740
her life towards the end,
because of the heavy radiation
738
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,009
and chemotherapy, she
wore scarves because she
739
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:53,011
had lost all her hair.
740
00:36:53,111 --> 00:36:58,049
And she practically lived
in flannel nightgowns.
741
00:36:58,149 --> 00:36:59,651
I get the feeling
of protectiveness,
742
00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:01,753
like, she's watching
over the kids.
743
00:37:01,853 --> 00:37:05,056
Going in, checking on the
kids, making sure they're OK.
744
00:37:05,156 --> 00:37:07,025
I found out later
that her children were
745
00:37:07,125 --> 00:37:11,363
in the same bedrooms
that my children are in,
746
00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:12,998
and it could be she's
just looking for hers.
747
00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:18,804
NARRATOR: It didn't take
long for word to get around,
748
00:37:18,904 --> 00:37:21,807
the house 37th
Street was haunted.
749
00:37:21,907 --> 00:37:25,677
Even the local
newspaper wrote it up.
750
00:37:25,777 --> 00:37:27,746
MARY WOODS: About a week
after the article came out,
751
00:37:27,846 --> 00:37:30,749
I received a phone call
from the mother of one
752
00:37:30,849 --> 00:37:32,984
of my daughter's friends.
753
00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:36,922
She had known the woman who
lived in the house prior to us.
754
00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:40,459
She had helped take care
of her before she died.
755
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,093
She asked me if I'd ever
see any pictures of her.
756
00:37:42,193 --> 00:37:44,430
I said, no, I've never
seen any pictures.
757
00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:47,499
She said the two of you
could pass as twins.
758
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,001
She said that might
be one of the reasons
759
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:53,605
that she's attached
herself to you
760
00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:55,206
is because you're
about the same age
761
00:37:55,307 --> 00:37:58,176
as she was when she passed
away, and the two of you
762
00:37:58,276 --> 00:37:59,277
look quite a bit alike.
763
00:38:02,247 --> 00:38:06,552
NARRATOR: But the lady in
white was just the beginning.
764
00:38:06,652 --> 00:38:08,387
ED WOODS: The first thing
I actually saw was a man
765
00:38:08,487 --> 00:38:11,423
standing in the living room.
766
00:38:11,523 --> 00:38:14,626
Looked like an old riverboat
gambler with a little ribbon
767
00:38:14,726 --> 00:38:17,295
tie and a mustache.
768
00:38:17,396 --> 00:38:19,297
You look at him twice,
because you're not too sure
769
00:38:19,398 --> 00:38:20,499
if he's going to do something.
770
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,601
He never moves though.
771
00:38:22,701 --> 00:38:27,005
He's always perfectly still
just looking down the hall,
772
00:38:27,105 --> 00:38:31,009
but he seems just very
inimical like you wouldn't
773
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:32,077
want to cross this guy.
774
00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:38,350
NARRATOR: Yet another apparition
seen by both Ed and Larry
775
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:40,285
is far less sinister.
776
00:38:40,386 --> 00:38:41,553
They call her pinky.
777
00:38:45,457 --> 00:38:51,630
ED WOODS: Pinky is a little
girl 8 to 10 years old.
778
00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:53,098
And once in awhile,
you hear her giggle.
779
00:38:57,035 --> 00:38:58,036
MARY WOODS: First
time, I thought
780
00:38:58,136 --> 00:38:59,971
it was our youngest daughter.
781
00:39:00,071 --> 00:39:02,140
We'd been sitting in the
living room watching movies,
782
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,309
and I thought it was
my youngest daughter
783
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:06,545
giggling at the movies.
784
00:39:06,645 --> 00:39:07,946
So I looked down
and realized she
785
00:39:08,046 --> 00:39:09,781
had fallen asleep
in front of the TV
786
00:39:09,881 --> 00:39:12,017
and was sound asleep,
so there was no way.
787
00:39:15,554 --> 00:39:17,322
NARRATOR: For Ed and
Mary, the extraordinary
788
00:39:17,423 --> 00:39:19,491
was becoming commonplace.
789
00:39:19,591 --> 00:39:21,793
Consider the spirit
in the shower,
790
00:39:21,893 --> 00:39:25,564
never seen but definitely felt.
791
00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:27,566
ED WOODS: Ourselves
and many people
792
00:39:27,666 --> 00:39:29,668
that have been
guests of ours who've
793
00:39:29,768 --> 00:39:34,706
taken baths or showers have
found themselves accompanied
794
00:39:34,806 --> 00:39:41,480
in the shower by a friendly hug
and general body rub that seems
795
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:44,215
to be quite female in nature.
796
00:39:44,315 --> 00:39:46,418
Doesn't seem to matter if
the person taking a shower
797
00:39:46,518 --> 00:39:49,054
is male or female.
798
00:39:49,154 --> 00:39:52,257
Just somebody's who's been
gone a long time I think
799
00:39:52,357 --> 00:39:56,895
and missed some of the things
that the world had to provide.
800
00:39:56,995 --> 00:39:59,831
NARRATOR: When Ed's
son came to visit,
801
00:39:59,931 --> 00:40:03,068
he got the welcome
of a lifetime.
802
00:40:03,168 --> 00:40:04,770
MARY WOODS: He went,
took a shower, came out,
803
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:07,038
and the first thing out of his
mouth as he looked at his dad
804
00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:10,509
and said, OK, what's
with the shower?
805
00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:12,511
Honestly, I thought
they were teasing me.
806
00:40:12,611 --> 00:40:16,047
I thought they were just giving
me a line about the ghosts.
807
00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:18,349
About a week later, I
went in and took a shower
808
00:40:18,450 --> 00:40:20,385
and got a very friendly hug.
809
00:40:20,486 --> 00:40:22,654
And I came out and I looked
at my husband and I says,
810
00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:28,426
I think you're ghost
likes either sex.
811
00:40:28,527 --> 00:40:29,961
NARRATOR: According
to Ed and Mary,
812
00:40:30,061 --> 00:40:31,797
the ghostly activities
in the house
813
00:40:31,897 --> 00:40:35,967
often go beyond shadowy
specters and gentle caresses.
814
00:40:36,067 --> 00:40:37,603
We've been here for
like four or five years.
815
00:40:37,703 --> 00:40:39,404
- Ed, hang on a second.
- I mean it's ridiculous.
816
00:40:39,505 --> 00:40:40,305
What?
817
00:40:44,643 --> 00:40:46,678
ED WOODS: You'll hear a
crash in the bathroom.
818
00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,113
And when you walk
back in, everything
819
00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:51,216
will be laying down on the
counters or on the floor.
820
00:40:51,316 --> 00:40:53,919
Nothing ever seems to be broken.
821
00:40:54,019 --> 00:40:57,055
MARY WOODS: You'll see things
being moved around, rattled,
822
00:40:57,155 --> 00:41:00,526
pictures being moved almost
every day for about three
823
00:41:00,626 --> 00:41:02,093
or four months,
and then it'll die
824
00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:03,995
down for a couple of months.
825
00:41:06,932 --> 00:41:09,668
I've come to accept
it just under the fact
826
00:41:09,768 --> 00:41:12,270
that there are things in
this world we can't explain.
827
00:41:14,906 --> 00:41:16,642
NARRATOR: As far as the
Woods' were concerned,
828
00:41:16,742 --> 00:41:18,243
there was little doubt.
829
00:41:18,343 --> 00:41:19,444
The house was haunted.
830
00:41:22,648 --> 00:41:25,116
They called in an expert
in all things paranormal,
831
00:41:25,216 --> 00:41:26,985
a professional ghost
buster if you will,
832
00:41:27,085 --> 00:41:29,688
to conduct a thorough
investigation.
833
00:41:29,788 --> 00:41:31,456
Perhaps, he could
make some sense out
834
00:41:31,557 --> 00:41:34,726
of the house on 37th Street.
835
00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:37,362
All right, let's go ahead
and move down the hallway here.
836
00:41:37,462 --> 00:41:38,697
Now, I want to tell
me-- both of you
837
00:41:38,797 --> 00:41:41,099
tell me just pretty
much where the lady
838
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:43,001
in white, where things happen.
839
00:41:43,101 --> 00:41:45,170
NARRATOR: Lloyd Auerbach,
a lecturer and writer
840
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:47,472
has been investigating
paranormal phenomena
841
00:41:47,573 --> 00:41:49,608
for nearly two decades.
842
00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:51,276
Our cameras were on
hand when he paid
843
00:41:51,376 --> 00:41:53,912
his first visit to the house.
844
00:41:54,012 --> 00:41:55,914
Auerbach came armed
with an open mind
845
00:41:56,014 --> 00:41:58,717
and an instrument
called a magnetometer.
846
00:41:58,817 --> 00:42:01,720
LOYD AUERBACH: It was read
next to nothing, literally.
847
00:42:01,820 --> 00:42:03,889
The magnetometer
that I use is sold
848
00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:07,559
for detecting whether or not you
have electromagnetic pollution.
849
00:42:07,659 --> 00:42:09,795
It's not a ghost detector
by any way, shape, or form.
850
00:42:09,895 --> 00:42:11,963
It's a good indicator that
there's a physical connection
851
00:42:12,063 --> 00:42:14,733
in the environment
to their experience
852
00:42:14,833 --> 00:42:16,534
that helps validate that
they're not completely
853
00:42:16,635 --> 00:42:18,503
making it up in their minds.
854
00:42:18,604 --> 00:42:20,171
It helps me understand
that they're not completely
855
00:42:20,271 --> 00:42:21,406
making it up in
their minds also,
856
00:42:21,506 --> 00:42:23,274
that there is some correlation.
857
00:42:26,144 --> 00:42:29,581
NARRATOR: Auerbach painstakingly
made his way through the house.
858
00:42:29,681 --> 00:42:31,516
LOYD AUERBACH: OK, and now
we got a reading again.
859
00:42:31,617 --> 00:42:33,518
NARRATOR: In several
areas, the magnetometer
860
00:42:33,619 --> 00:42:38,123
spiked without explanation, most
notably in the back bathroom.
861
00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:39,190
LOYD AUERBACH: It's fairly high.
862
00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:40,458
NARRATOR: The living room.
863
00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:42,193
LOYD AUERBACH: I'm getting
some things in the corner.
864
00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:43,528
NARRATOR: And the hallway.
865
00:42:43,629 --> 00:42:44,996
LOYD AUERBACH: I'm getting
actually a high reading again,
866
00:42:45,096 --> 00:42:46,197
a high energy
reading, which just,
867
00:42:46,297 --> 00:42:47,432
kind of, suddenly spiked up.
868
00:42:47,532 --> 00:42:51,603
This is a very unusual
pattern that we're seeing here
869
00:42:51,703 --> 00:42:53,672
that seems to relate
to the phenomena
870
00:42:53,772 --> 00:42:55,607
or at least to a
sensation of it,
871
00:42:55,707 --> 00:42:57,876
but doesn't seem to
relate to anything else.
872
00:42:57,976 --> 00:43:00,846
So I can pretty much rule
out the physical environment
873
00:43:00,946 --> 00:43:02,180
for causing this.
874
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,749
You don't have like a
generator under the house
875
00:43:03,849 --> 00:43:05,083
somewhere do you.
876
00:43:05,183 --> 00:43:06,417
MARY WOODS: No.
877
00:43:06,517 --> 00:43:07,953
LOYD AUERBACH: Over the years,
I've done investigations.
878
00:43:08,053 --> 00:43:10,055
I have started
feeling things myself.
879
00:43:10,155 --> 00:43:13,358
I wouldn't call myself
by any means a psychic,
880
00:43:13,458 --> 00:43:14,993
but I would say
that I'm becoming
881
00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:17,495
more aware of my sensitivities.
882
00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:20,666
And I tend to get a sinus
pressure that often makes
883
00:43:20,766 --> 00:43:23,068
me feel like I need more
oxygen, which makes me yawn
884
00:43:23,168 --> 00:43:24,602
or start feeling tired.
885
00:43:24,703 --> 00:43:26,437
And this was happening
to me on a cyclical basis
886
00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:28,406
while I've been here, and
it was connecting directly
887
00:43:28,506 --> 00:43:29,975
to the magnetometer reading.
888
00:43:30,075 --> 00:43:32,577
You're feeling like
somebody's around right now.
889
00:43:32,678 --> 00:43:33,444
Any sense of.
890
00:43:33,544 --> 00:43:35,246
MARY WOODS: Once in a while.
891
00:43:35,346 --> 00:43:38,817
For myself, there was
an odd correspondence
892
00:43:38,917 --> 00:43:41,219
I guess with the
spike in the meters,
893
00:43:41,319 --> 00:43:45,190
and I'd get a real cold feeling
or a chill down the back
894
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:47,125
of my neck or the
hair on my arms
895
00:43:47,225 --> 00:43:50,796
would raise up like goosebumps.
896
00:43:50,896 --> 00:43:52,197
It didn't happen all the time.
897
00:43:55,533 --> 00:43:57,635
But on several of the
occasions, I felt like there
898
00:43:57,736 --> 00:43:59,838
was somebody in the room.
899
00:43:59,938 --> 00:44:01,006
I don't know if
I'm just picking up
900
00:44:01,106 --> 00:44:04,442
on things that
have been going on,
901
00:44:04,542 --> 00:44:07,645
or if there actually
was somebody there.
902
00:44:07,746 --> 00:44:09,347
Now, this one I've
seen several times,
903
00:44:09,447 --> 00:44:11,316
but he's been at the
end of the hallway.
904
00:44:11,416 --> 00:44:14,720
NARRATOR: Was somebody
or something there?
905
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:17,155
Perhaps, a few
agitated spirits trying
906
00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:20,625
to bridge the gulf between
the dead and the living.
907
00:44:20,726 --> 00:44:22,593
Lloyd Auerbach believes
it is possible,
908
00:44:22,694 --> 00:44:25,163
but by no means definite.
909
00:44:25,263 --> 00:44:28,834
Ed and Mary Woods, however,
have moved beyond possibility
910
00:44:28,934 --> 00:44:29,968
to certainty.
911
00:44:39,811 --> 00:44:42,948
The stories we have examined
are still shrouded in mystery,
912
00:44:43,048 --> 00:44:45,016
still needing that one
final clue that will
913
00:44:45,116 --> 00:44:46,885
unlock the truth.
914
00:44:46,985 --> 00:44:48,686
Perhaps someone
watching can shed light
915
00:44:48,787 --> 00:44:50,688
on these perplexing cases.
916
00:44:50,789 --> 00:44:52,657
Perhaps, that someone is you.
917
00:44:52,758 --> 00:44:54,826
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