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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,873 --> 00:00:09,577 Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries. 2 00:00:09,677 --> 00:00:11,479 NARRATOR: He was a once and future king, 3 00:00:11,579 --> 00:00:13,547 truly an American icon. 4 00:00:13,647 --> 00:00:16,617 But for 20 years, the details of his untimely death 5 00:00:16,717 --> 00:00:18,552 have been cloaked in mystery. 6 00:00:18,652 --> 00:00:21,455 Now a trusted member of Elvis Presley's inner circle 7 00:00:21,555 --> 00:00:24,092 has sparked a stunning controversy. 8 00:00:24,192 --> 00:00:26,660 Is it possible that the King of rock and roll 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,030 took his own life. 10 00:00:30,131 --> 00:00:32,866 Is there a Bigfoot in Florida's Everglades, 11 00:00:32,966 --> 00:00:35,636 or could the photographs, footprints, and hair samples 12 00:00:35,736 --> 00:00:39,107 be an elaborate hoax. 13 00:00:39,207 --> 00:00:40,541 She was an eccentric heiress known 14 00:00:40,641 --> 00:00:44,545 for her reclusive lifestyle, her devotion to her 58 show dogs, 15 00:00:44,645 --> 00:00:47,815 and for occasionally dressing like a man, 16 00:00:47,915 --> 00:00:50,017 then she disappeared. 17 00:00:50,118 --> 00:00:51,819 What happened to Camilla Lyman? 18 00:00:54,488 --> 00:00:57,325 Welcome to the house on 37th Street. 19 00:00:57,425 --> 00:01:01,129 It may look perfectly normal, but don't be fooled. 20 00:01:01,229 --> 00:01:03,297 The folks who live here say their modest home 21 00:01:03,397 --> 00:01:07,101 is in fact haunted and not by a single ghost, 22 00:01:07,201 --> 00:01:11,772 but by an entire gang of restless spirits. 23 00:01:11,872 --> 00:01:15,309 Join me for these intriguing stories and more. 24 00:01:15,409 --> 00:01:17,578 Perhaps, you may be the one chosen 25 00:01:17,678 --> 00:01:19,813 by fate to solve a mystery. 26 00:01:19,913 --> 00:02:08,629 [music playing] 27 00:02:08,729 --> 00:02:12,166 He once reigned supreme as the world's greatest entertainer, 28 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:16,637 but on August 16, 1977, Elvis Presley's remarkable life 29 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:18,872 came to a shocking end. 30 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:21,875 At first it was said he died of a heart attack. 31 00:02:21,975 --> 00:02:24,878 Later reports suggested a massive drug overdose. 32 00:02:28,649 --> 00:02:30,150 The mystery of Elvis's death is so 33 00:02:30,251 --> 00:02:32,320 baffling that even those closest to him 34 00:02:32,420 --> 00:02:34,021 can't agree on the cause. 35 00:02:34,121 --> 00:02:37,090 Yet Elvis' own stepbrother, a trusted member 36 00:02:37,191 --> 00:02:39,393 of the inner circle, maintains that the King's 37 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:41,629 death was not accidental. 38 00:02:41,729 --> 00:02:45,599 He says that Elvis committed suicide. 39 00:02:45,699 --> 00:02:47,201 DAVID STANLEY: Elvis Presley woke up 40 00:02:47,301 --> 00:02:49,937 on the 16th of August premeditated, 41 00:02:50,037 --> 00:02:55,008 planned, took and killed himself deliberately. 42 00:02:55,108 --> 00:02:56,477 NARRATOR: But why? 43 00:02:56,577 --> 00:02:58,779 Why would a man who could have anything and everything 44 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:01,382 he desired take his own life? 45 00:03:01,482 --> 00:03:04,318 What dark secrets could bring him to such a desperate act? 46 00:03:07,588 --> 00:03:10,190 Not surprisingly, most people refuse to believe that Elvis 47 00:03:10,291 --> 00:03:12,926 Presley died by his own hand. 48 00:03:13,026 --> 00:03:15,429 However, David Stanley's eyewitness account 49 00:03:15,529 --> 00:03:17,331 along with the circumstantial evidence 50 00:03:17,431 --> 00:03:20,368 is compelling and warrants a closer look. 51 00:03:20,468 --> 00:03:22,803 Tonight we'll hear both sides of this ongoing controversy 52 00:03:22,903 --> 00:03:25,038 and learn the bizarre and intriguing 53 00:03:25,138 --> 00:03:28,342 details of Elvis's final days from those who knew him best. 54 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:37,985 It had become part of Elvis Presley's daily routine, three 55 00:03:38,085 --> 00:03:41,622 times a day on a strict schedule, nearly a dozen 56 00:03:41,722 --> 00:03:43,557 different prescription drugs, including 57 00:03:43,657 --> 00:03:47,661 Demerol and Seconal administered by members of his entourage. 58 00:03:54,234 --> 00:03:57,305 According to insiders, this dangerous cycle of drug use 59 00:03:57,405 --> 00:04:01,842 had his beginnings in 1958 when Elvis was drafted into the army 60 00:04:01,942 --> 00:04:04,678 and sent overseas. 61 00:04:04,778 --> 00:04:06,146 RED WEST: I went to Germany with him after I 62 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:07,781 got out of the Marine Corps. 63 00:04:07,881 --> 00:04:10,117 NARRATOR: Bodyguard Red West was a close friend of Elvis 64 00:04:10,217 --> 00:04:12,320 Presley's from junior high school 65 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:14,888 and was a key figure in the biographical film 66 00:04:14,988 --> 00:04:17,758 Elvis, All the King's Men. 67 00:04:17,858 --> 00:04:20,227 RED WEST: He was on guard duty on the Russian front, 68 00:04:20,328 --> 00:04:22,396 and if you went to sleep during and got caught asleep, 69 00:04:22,496 --> 00:04:23,664 you were in trouble. 70 00:04:23,764 --> 00:04:26,266 So this Sergeant said take these little things here. 71 00:04:26,367 --> 00:04:27,668 They'll keep you up. 72 00:04:27,768 --> 00:04:33,441 And wow, man, it started feeling good, and that's how it began. 73 00:04:33,541 --> 00:04:35,042 NARRATOR: After his army discharged, 74 00:04:35,142 --> 00:04:37,911 Elvis starred in a long series of inconsequential 75 00:04:38,011 --> 00:04:41,315 but highly profitable movies. 76 00:04:41,415 --> 00:04:42,550 CHUCK HARTER: Elvis's greatest desire 77 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:45,018 was to be a serious dramatic actor, 78 00:04:45,118 --> 00:04:48,789 and this was denied him, because his management felt that they 79 00:04:48,889 --> 00:04:51,058 wouldn't make as much money if they 80 00:04:51,158 --> 00:04:52,493 put him in a dramatic role. 81 00:04:52,593 --> 00:04:55,429 They wanted him to be in the formula. 82 00:04:55,529 --> 00:04:58,766 So this depressed him a great deal. 83 00:04:58,866 --> 00:05:01,369 NARRATOR: Frustrated by the unsatisfying movie roles 84 00:05:01,469 --> 00:05:04,505 and overwhelmed by the crushing demands of his fans, 85 00:05:04,605 --> 00:05:06,840 Elvis retreated into a shadow world 86 00:05:06,940 --> 00:05:11,379 behind the gates of his Memphis mansion Graceland. 87 00:05:11,479 --> 00:05:14,382 CHUCK HARTER: Elvis sort of put himself into a cocoon. 88 00:05:14,482 --> 00:05:17,985 He surrounded himself with paid friends for the most 89 00:05:18,085 --> 00:05:21,021 part called the Memphis Mafia. 90 00:05:21,121 --> 00:05:25,559 And Graceland more or less became a tomb for him or a cave 91 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:27,060 to go hide from life. 92 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,662 The windows were sealed. 93 00:05:28,762 --> 00:05:31,198 The outside did not enter in. 94 00:05:31,298 --> 00:05:33,834 So his day to day touch with reality 95 00:05:33,934 --> 00:05:34,935 had really been removed. 96 00:05:38,238 --> 00:05:40,340 DAVID STANLEY: The hardest thing for Elvis was being Elvis. 97 00:05:40,441 --> 00:05:42,075 People say what do you think the most difficult part 98 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:43,611 of Elvis Presley's life was? 99 00:05:43,711 --> 00:05:44,945 Being Elvis Presley. 100 00:05:45,045 --> 00:05:48,015 Looking out a window seeing 10,000 people who think you 101 00:05:48,115 --> 00:05:49,316 can walk on water. 102 00:05:49,417 --> 00:05:52,352 Walking out on a stage and seeing 22,000 flashbulbs going 103 00:05:52,453 --> 00:05:54,488 off thinking you are a king. 104 00:05:57,157 --> 00:06:00,327 NARRATOR: A combination of high times on tour and isolation 105 00:06:00,428 --> 00:06:03,831 at home extracted an unforeseen tole. 106 00:06:03,931 --> 00:06:06,366 Elvis's affairs, absences, and drug use 107 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:10,203 led to the end of his celebrated six year marriage to Priscilla. 108 00:06:10,303 --> 00:06:12,606 The divorce punctured the protective bubble 109 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:17,445 around Elvis's carefully maintained image. 110 00:06:17,545 --> 00:06:19,179 CHUCK HARTER: When she did leave him, 111 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,316 it wasn't so much that his heart was broken that the love 112 00:06:23,417 --> 00:06:24,452 of his life is gone. 113 00:06:24,552 --> 00:06:27,555 It was more, because he was Elvis, 114 00:06:27,655 --> 00:06:29,890 and Elvis always got his way. 115 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:31,559 This time he didn't. 116 00:06:31,659 --> 00:06:34,327 DAVID STANLEY: He would get himself in a rage over that. 117 00:06:34,428 --> 00:06:37,798 He would get himself so worked up over it that he'd begin 118 00:06:37,898 --> 00:06:40,801 to take the medications to deal with the depression 119 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:42,135 of the rage. 120 00:06:42,235 --> 00:06:46,339 And then suddenly some shows are starting to be canceled. 121 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,509 NARRATOR: By the mid-1970s, insiders 122 00:06:48,609 --> 00:06:50,611 say that Elvis's dependency on drugs 123 00:06:50,711 --> 00:06:53,346 was so complete that he required around the clock 124 00:06:53,447 --> 00:06:54,848 care and supervision. 125 00:06:54,948 --> 00:06:57,851 It was provided by David Stanley and a group 126 00:06:57,951 --> 00:07:00,053 of men known as the Lifers. 127 00:07:00,153 --> 00:07:04,091 They catered to the kings every need. 128 00:07:04,191 --> 00:07:05,258 DAVID STANLEY: We were the ones who 129 00:07:05,358 --> 00:07:07,961 were with Elvis all the time. 130 00:07:08,061 --> 00:07:11,298 Elvis needs something to eat Elvis needs to be 131 00:07:11,398 --> 00:07:13,567 woken up at a certain time. 132 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:14,868 Elvis needs his medication. 133 00:07:18,972 --> 00:07:20,874 NARRATOR: A dangerous and destructive routine 134 00:07:20,974 --> 00:07:23,511 of medication is administered on a steady schedule 135 00:07:23,611 --> 00:07:25,879 to Elvis at his insistence. 136 00:07:25,979 --> 00:07:28,215 He received the drugs in three separate doses 137 00:07:28,315 --> 00:07:30,383 that were called attacks. 138 00:07:30,484 --> 00:07:32,753 Each attack contained numerous medications 139 00:07:32,853 --> 00:07:34,755 in pill or syringe form. 140 00:07:34,855 --> 00:07:39,693 Among them Valium, Nembutal, Demerol, Quaalude, and Seconal. 141 00:07:42,763 --> 00:07:44,732 The first attack was usually delivered 142 00:07:44,832 --> 00:07:46,500 between 2:00 and 3:00 AM. 143 00:07:51,438 --> 00:07:53,406 DAVID STANLEY: After he'd take his attack-- 144 00:07:53,507 --> 00:07:54,908 attack one, he would have a couple 145 00:07:55,008 --> 00:07:58,679 of cheeseburgers, potatoes. 146 00:07:58,779 --> 00:08:01,281 Attack one effect would get him groggy and sleepy. 147 00:08:01,381 --> 00:08:03,416 We would have to watch Elvis, because sometimes he'd 148 00:08:03,517 --> 00:08:05,786 be eating and just fall asleep with his food in his mouth, 149 00:08:05,886 --> 00:08:08,155 oftentimes choking on his own-- on his own food. 150 00:08:10,758 --> 00:08:12,526 NARRATOR: After sleeping for a few hours, 151 00:08:12,626 --> 00:08:16,163 Elvis would awaken for attack two. 152 00:08:16,263 --> 00:08:17,798 DAVID STANLEY: That would last for several hours, 153 00:08:17,898 --> 00:08:19,967 and now you're in the morning hours. 154 00:08:20,067 --> 00:08:22,335 You're looking at 10 or 11. 155 00:08:22,435 --> 00:08:25,338 Then it'd be attack three, which was the same contents 156 00:08:25,438 --> 00:08:26,707 of attack one and two. 157 00:08:26,807 --> 00:08:28,676 I mean, and so you're talking about the time you got done, 158 00:08:28,776 --> 00:08:30,744 let's just call it 11 sleeping pills per attack. 159 00:08:30,844 --> 00:08:32,880 That's 33. 160 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:34,715 Let's call it three shots of Demerol per. 161 00:08:34,815 --> 00:08:40,087 That's nine shots, and some people would say, well, 162 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:42,723 golly, that's six months worth. 163 00:08:42,823 --> 00:08:44,124 That was a nightly dose. 164 00:08:47,761 --> 00:08:49,462 RED WEST: I talked to him about drugs, 165 00:08:49,563 --> 00:08:50,864 and I said you don't need this stuff. 166 00:08:50,964 --> 00:08:53,066 He said, nah ah, you're wrong. 167 00:08:53,166 --> 00:08:54,467 I do need it. 168 00:08:54,568 --> 00:08:55,368 I looked at him. 169 00:08:55,468 --> 00:08:57,638 I said, your serious? 170 00:08:57,738 --> 00:08:58,706 You really need this stuff. 171 00:08:58,806 --> 00:08:59,607 He said, that's right. 172 00:08:59,707 --> 00:09:01,408 I need it. 173 00:09:01,508 --> 00:09:03,443 And that's when I threw my hand up and said, 174 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,213 I've done all I can do. 175 00:09:06,313 --> 00:09:08,215 And I was gone shortly thereafter. 176 00:09:11,118 --> 00:09:13,520 NARRATOR: David Stanley says he also tried to intervene 177 00:09:13,621 --> 00:09:15,723 to save Elvis from himself. 178 00:09:15,823 --> 00:09:19,159 But the King didn't welcome these intrusions of reality. 179 00:09:19,259 --> 00:09:20,527 No, you don't got to have you shots. 180 00:09:20,628 --> 00:09:21,629 You don't tell me anything. 181 00:09:21,729 --> 00:09:22,630 I'm telling you right now you work for me, 182 00:09:22,730 --> 00:09:23,997 and I've got to have my shot. 183 00:09:24,097 --> 00:09:26,634 You pay me to take care of you, and I can't do it tonight. 184 00:09:26,734 --> 00:09:28,168 Who do you think you are, man? I'm telling you right now. 185 00:09:28,268 --> 00:09:29,169 I want my shot. - No. 186 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:30,037 No, you can't. 187 00:09:30,137 --> 00:09:31,338 Right now. 188 00:09:31,438 --> 00:09:33,140 DAVID STANLEY: Now I knew Elvis wouldn't have shot me, 189 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,244 but I knew right then we have got a serious, serious drug 190 00:09:37,344 --> 00:09:38,145 problem here. 191 00:09:41,749 --> 00:09:43,651 NARRATOR: Elvis depression deepened in the weeks 192 00:09:43,751 --> 00:09:45,352 prior to his death. 193 00:09:45,452 --> 00:09:48,656 Despite the millions he'd made, he was short of money. 194 00:09:48,756 --> 00:09:52,793 His manager had booked another tour, which Elvis was dreading. 195 00:09:52,893 --> 00:09:55,262 He was visibly overweight, in poor health, 196 00:09:55,362 --> 00:09:57,597 and then a final humiliation rock 197 00:09:57,698 --> 00:10:00,968 and roll's greatest sex symbol was now reportedly impotent. 198 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,240 Perhaps, Elvis was most despondent about a book 199 00:10:07,340 --> 00:10:11,879 some former employees, including Red West were about to publish. 200 00:10:11,979 --> 00:10:15,348 The book chronicled their years in the King's inner circle. 201 00:10:15,448 --> 00:10:17,417 Their revelations threatened to expose 202 00:10:17,517 --> 00:10:20,688 the secret Elvis, the one his adoring fans knew 203 00:10:20,788 --> 00:10:22,923 nothing about. 204 00:10:23,023 --> 00:10:25,392 CHUCK HARTER: This would be the first time that the fans saw 205 00:10:25,492 --> 00:10:29,029 him overweight, not looking good, 206 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:31,765 with the knowledge of what the book contained. 207 00:10:31,865 --> 00:10:36,069 And it was, oh my god, they'll know. 208 00:10:36,169 --> 00:10:38,405 And he knew the whistle had been blown on his clean image, 209 00:10:38,505 --> 00:10:39,539 and he was terrified. 210 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:40,974 DAVID STANLEY: And you could just look at him 211 00:10:41,074 --> 00:10:42,843 and see the depression. 212 00:10:42,943 --> 00:10:44,177 You could see the, god, I don't know 213 00:10:44,277 --> 00:10:46,213 if it's worth going on mentality, 214 00:10:46,313 --> 00:10:48,015 kind of, dreading the tour one day. 215 00:10:48,115 --> 00:10:49,717 I don't want to go on a tour. 216 00:10:49,817 --> 00:10:51,218 They were going to think this. 217 00:10:51,318 --> 00:10:52,585 They were going to think that. 218 00:10:52,686 --> 00:10:54,988 He was just really confused. 219 00:10:55,088 --> 00:10:57,557 David, come over here and pray with me. 220 00:10:57,657 --> 00:10:59,226 Come over here and kneel down. 221 00:10:59,326 --> 00:11:01,729 DAVID STANLEY: In the last days, he was really searching. 222 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:02,863 He was digging into it. 223 00:11:02,963 --> 00:11:03,897 He was looking for the answer. 224 00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:05,365 He was looking for a way out. 225 00:11:08,836 --> 00:11:13,606 The last time I saw Elvis, he said goodbye to me. 226 00:11:13,707 --> 00:11:14,507 He was crying. 227 00:11:14,607 --> 00:11:16,209 I love you. 228 00:11:16,309 --> 00:11:17,310 He hugged me. 229 00:11:17,410 --> 00:11:18,511 I'll never ever see you again. 230 00:11:18,611 --> 00:11:19,980 The next time you see me will be in a higher 231 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,081 place in a different plane. 232 00:11:24,284 --> 00:11:26,954 NARRATOR: The exact sequence of events is still a mystery, 233 00:11:27,054 --> 00:11:30,190 but this much is known about Elvis's last day, 234 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:33,927 it was suspiciously different in several ways. 235 00:11:34,027 --> 00:11:36,596 He ignored his usual late night feast. 236 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:40,200 He was given his three attack envelopes, nearly three dozen 237 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:44,938 pills and nine syringes full of Demerol at their usual times, 238 00:11:45,038 --> 00:11:46,439 but he left them untouched. 239 00:11:51,812 --> 00:11:54,447 Elvis's girlfriend Ginger Alden was the last person 240 00:11:54,547 --> 00:11:56,249 to see him alive. 241 00:11:56,349 --> 00:12:00,220 According to reports, around 9:30 AM, Elvis got out of bed 242 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,654 and went to the bathroom to read. 243 00:12:11,765 --> 00:12:15,302 That's where Elvis's body was found a few hours later. 244 00:12:15,402 --> 00:12:20,073 Paramedics were already there by the time David Stanley arrived. 245 00:12:20,173 --> 00:12:22,009 DAVID STANLEY: I looked and saw Elvis in the fetal position 246 00:12:22,109 --> 00:12:24,444 and knew he was gone. 247 00:12:24,544 --> 00:12:26,980 First thing I said is you son of a bitch. 248 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,951 I knew right there and then at that time that Elvis said, 249 00:12:31,051 --> 00:12:33,854 I am out of here. 250 00:12:33,954 --> 00:12:35,889 David says he found all three attack 251 00:12:35,989 --> 00:12:39,759 envelopes and several Demerol syringes nearly empty. 252 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:43,463 He believes Elvis took all three attacks simultaneously. 253 00:12:43,563 --> 00:12:45,532 The purpose, to end his life. 254 00:12:49,002 --> 00:12:50,971 The official autopsy found that Elvis 255 00:12:51,071 --> 00:12:52,940 died of an irregular heartbeat due to 256 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,044 severe cardiovascular disease. 257 00:12:57,144 --> 00:12:58,846 DR. KEVIN MERIGIAN: I don't think there's any evidence 258 00:12:58,946 --> 00:13:01,581 that there was a tremendous amount of drug 259 00:13:01,681 --> 00:13:04,017 abuse or anything, misuse. 260 00:13:04,117 --> 00:13:05,986 NARRATOR: Dr. Kevin Merigian is a well-known 261 00:13:06,086 --> 00:13:07,955 clinical pharmacologist. 262 00:13:08,055 --> 00:13:09,689 He has studied the official coroner's 263 00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:13,460 toxicology report that was released to the public. 264 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:15,395 DR. KEVIN MERIGIAN: I know there's been a lot of theories, 265 00:13:15,495 --> 00:13:17,998 and there's been a lot of conjecture. 266 00:13:18,098 --> 00:13:20,767 There's always a debate that, kind of, 267 00:13:20,868 --> 00:13:23,570 adds to the mystique of Elvis. 268 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:26,239 But he didn't die of an overdose. 269 00:13:26,339 --> 00:13:30,143 He died of some event probably cardiac in origin. 270 00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:31,778 DAVID STANLEY: Good Lord. 271 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:36,249 That'd kill an animal, kill a cow, that much medication. 272 00:13:36,349 --> 00:13:38,818 So when I talk to you about this, 273 00:13:38,919 --> 00:13:43,490 I am not looking for reasons to back up what I believe. 274 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:46,326 I am telling you what I know, and the fact 275 00:13:46,426 --> 00:13:48,962 is that much medication will kill you. 276 00:13:49,062 --> 00:13:51,865 And Elvis knew that, especially because he 277 00:13:51,965 --> 00:13:53,833 knew the physicians desk reference, because he 278 00:13:53,934 --> 00:13:55,835 was educated on drugs. 279 00:13:55,936 --> 00:13:57,070 He knew that that would take him out. 280 00:14:01,374 --> 00:14:02,809 RED WEST: Now, only Elvis can tell you what he 281 00:14:02,910 --> 00:14:05,012 was thinking that last night. 282 00:14:05,112 --> 00:14:07,047 David Stanley can't tell you what he was thinking. 283 00:14:07,147 --> 00:14:08,781 I can't tell you what he was thinking. 284 00:14:08,882 --> 00:14:10,550 Doctors can look at all the charts 285 00:14:10,650 --> 00:14:12,552 that they want to look at, but it's not going to tell 286 00:14:12,652 --> 00:14:15,622 you what Elvis was thinking. 287 00:14:15,722 --> 00:14:17,590 I know him like a book. 288 00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:21,394 I know he was religious, and I know what he would do 289 00:14:21,494 --> 00:14:23,596 and what he wouldn't do. 290 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:26,166 And he would not kill himself purposely. 291 00:14:30,103 --> 00:14:33,140 NARRATOR: Did Elvis Presley take his own life? 292 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,076 The controversy may one day be settled. 293 00:14:36,176 --> 00:14:37,945 Elvis's father, Vernon, reportedly 294 00:14:38,045 --> 00:14:40,747 commissioned a private autopsy after the official report 295 00:14:40,847 --> 00:14:42,449 was completed. 296 00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:45,852 Exactly what those doctors found is still unknown. 297 00:14:45,953 --> 00:14:48,155 At Vernon's request, the results will remain 298 00:14:48,255 --> 00:15:01,534 sealed until the year 2027. 299 00:15:01,634 --> 00:15:06,639 The Florida Everglades, hot, humid, mosquito infested 300 00:15:06,739 --> 00:15:11,044 swamp land, an exotic setting for some unusual creatures 301 00:15:11,144 --> 00:15:16,149 and some unusual people too. 302 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:20,153 For eight months, David Shealy has sat all alone in the middle 303 00:15:20,253 --> 00:15:22,789 of a swamp looking for a legendary creature 304 00:15:22,889 --> 00:15:26,994 said to roam the Everglades, Florida's answer to Bigfoot. 305 00:15:30,497 --> 00:15:33,366 David's quest began in 1973. 306 00:15:33,466 --> 00:15:36,069 He was just 10 when he and his older brother, Jack, 307 00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:39,706 trekked through the swamps near Ochopee, 75 miles west 308 00:15:39,806 --> 00:15:41,108 of Miami. 309 00:15:41,208 --> 00:15:44,677 It was a muggy day he would never forget. 310 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:46,546 Look, that's where I caught that snake before. 311 00:15:46,646 --> 00:15:48,748 That thing was huge. 312 00:15:48,848 --> 00:15:52,919 DAVID SHEALY: My brother noticed something in the distance. 313 00:15:53,020 --> 00:15:55,188 And he said to me-- he said what's that? 314 00:15:55,288 --> 00:15:56,423 What is that over there? 315 00:15:56,523 --> 00:15:57,857 What is it man? 316 00:15:57,957 --> 00:15:58,758 Let me see. 317 00:15:58,858 --> 00:16:00,093 Let me see. 318 00:16:00,193 --> 00:16:00,994 All right. 319 00:16:01,094 --> 00:16:02,095 All right. 320 00:16:02,195 --> 00:16:03,296 DAVID SHEALY: And I couldn't see it, 321 00:16:03,396 --> 00:16:04,931 because the grass was too high. 322 00:16:05,032 --> 00:16:07,467 So he had to pick me up where I could get a better look. 323 00:16:07,567 --> 00:16:10,170 And when I looked out across the prairie, 324 00:16:10,270 --> 00:16:13,406 I could see a huge figure probably eight feet tall, 325 00:16:13,506 --> 00:16:15,275 maybe 300 pounds. 326 00:16:15,375 --> 00:16:18,411 It was walking on two legs like a man would walk. 327 00:16:18,511 --> 00:16:19,712 Oh, man. 328 00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:21,948 That's like a giant skunk ape. 329 00:16:22,049 --> 00:16:24,584 DAVID SHEALY: I knew it had to be the skunk ape. 330 00:16:24,684 --> 00:16:28,955 NARRATOR: Skunk ape, just the sound of it brings a smile. 331 00:16:29,056 --> 00:16:30,957 The idea of a creature larger than a gorilla 332 00:16:31,058 --> 00:16:34,194 with an odor like a skunk might seem far fetched. 333 00:16:34,294 --> 00:16:36,063 But since that time 25 years ago, 334 00:16:36,163 --> 00:16:38,098 David Shealy has spent his free time searching 335 00:16:38,198 --> 00:16:40,533 for this elusive creature. 336 00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:43,002 Is a skunk ape the product of a fertile imagination 337 00:16:43,103 --> 00:16:46,439 nourished by the hot steamy nights of the Everglades, 338 00:16:46,539 --> 00:16:47,340 or is it real? 339 00:16:50,077 --> 00:16:52,279 Folks, you sure picked a beautiful day for your trip 340 00:16:52,379 --> 00:16:53,813 through the Everglades. 341 00:16:53,913 --> 00:16:56,716 NARRATOR: July 19th 1997, started 342 00:16:56,816 --> 00:16:59,052 out as an ordinary day for Everglades 343 00:16:59,152 --> 00:17:01,154 tour guide John Vickers. 344 00:17:01,254 --> 00:17:03,123 JOHN VICKERS: We're driving a bus down to Turner River Road, 345 00:17:03,223 --> 00:17:04,591 and I'm pointing out wildlife. 346 00:17:04,691 --> 00:17:06,126 There if you look over to your right, 347 00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:08,027 you'll see a couple of the alligators 348 00:17:08,128 --> 00:17:09,696 taking their afternoon nap. 349 00:17:09,796 --> 00:17:11,998 JOHN VICKERS: And all of a sudden about 200 yards 350 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:18,538 in front of our bus, a creature hairy, standing upright on 351 00:17:18,638 --> 00:17:21,274 its hind legs crossed the road. 352 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:24,811 At this point, one of the passengers 353 00:17:24,911 --> 00:17:26,379 taps me on the shoulder. 354 00:17:26,479 --> 00:17:28,348 What was that? 355 00:17:28,448 --> 00:17:29,749 Well, I'm not sure. 356 00:17:29,849 --> 00:17:30,717 It's nothing to worry about. 357 00:17:30,817 --> 00:17:32,051 I think it's probably the old man that 358 00:17:32,152 --> 00:17:33,986 lives out in the Everglades. 359 00:17:34,087 --> 00:17:36,356 JOHN VICKERS: I don't think he bought that. 360 00:17:36,456 --> 00:17:38,491 NARRATOR: A total of five people on the bus 361 00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:41,528 claim they saw what John saw. 362 00:17:41,628 --> 00:17:43,430 JOHN VICKERS: I don't know whether it was a-- 363 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:47,534 the real skunk ape or whether it was a hoax, 364 00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:50,137 but it's something real. 365 00:17:50,237 --> 00:17:52,639 NARRATOR: John and his group are not the only ones to see 366 00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:54,974 the odd creature that week. 367 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:58,010 Two days later, local real estate agent Jan 368 00:17:58,111 --> 00:17:59,946 Brock was on her way to work. 369 00:18:00,046 --> 00:18:03,250 JAN BROCK: I was driving probably about 7:30, 7:45 370 00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:06,419 in the morning, and I noticed something getting 371 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:07,920 ready to cross the road. 372 00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:10,823 My first thought was that it had to be a bear. 373 00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:13,360 And this particular time, I looked and I was 374 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:15,595 like something was not right. 375 00:18:15,695 --> 00:18:19,832 The animal just, kind of, scurried off across the road, 376 00:18:19,932 --> 00:18:22,335 and that's when I realized it couldn't have been a bear. 377 00:18:22,435 --> 00:18:26,406 I wasn't sure what I saw and didn't really want people 378 00:18:26,506 --> 00:18:30,577 to think I was a little nuts, so I didn't say anything about it. 379 00:18:30,677 --> 00:18:32,111 NARRATOR: Fire chief Vince Doerr left 380 00:18:32,212 --> 00:18:34,447 for work slightly later Jan. 381 00:18:34,547 --> 00:18:36,249 He and Jan are neighbors. 382 00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:38,918 VINCE DOERR: I seen something go across the road. 383 00:18:39,018 --> 00:18:42,222 It wasn't dressed in regular shirt and pants like a man. 384 00:18:42,322 --> 00:18:46,393 It was more brown or looked more like a bear color. 385 00:18:46,493 --> 00:18:49,562 But I knew it wasn't a bear, because it was walking upright. 386 00:18:49,662 --> 00:18:51,864 So I speeded up, got up into that area. 387 00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:52,765 I got out. 388 00:18:58,805 --> 00:19:00,507 I yelled out. - Hey. 389 00:19:00,607 --> 00:19:02,008 VINCE DOERR: And it stopped and turned. 390 00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:06,179 And at that time, I snapped one photograph. 391 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:08,381 NARRATOR: This was the actual photograph of the creature 392 00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:10,550 taken by Vince Doerr. 393 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,385 JAN BROCK: I saw the picture that Vince had taken, 394 00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:13,986 and that was the same thing I saw. 395 00:19:14,086 --> 00:19:15,688 VINCE DOERR: Jan seen it, so that made me feel 396 00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:16,889 like I wasn't seeing things. 397 00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:18,558 JAN BROCK: When you hear people talking about what 398 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:20,627 they saw and then you actually see it yourself, 399 00:19:20,727 --> 00:19:22,629 obviously, you're going to believe that there's 400 00:19:22,729 --> 00:19:25,898 something out there. 401 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:27,767 NARRATOR: A year has gone by. 402 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:31,404 It is now September of 1998. 403 00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:33,706 David Shealy keeps up his long eight month 404 00:19:33,806 --> 00:19:36,376 vigil hoping to obtain his own proof 405 00:19:36,476 --> 00:19:39,178 of the skunk apes existence. 406 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:42,749 DAVID SHEALY: I was sitting in my tree stand and I dozed off. 407 00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:45,918 And I heard something splashing in the water, 408 00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:50,490 and it sounded like a person walking towards me. 409 00:19:50,590 --> 00:19:52,959 When I looked up there it was coming right at me 410 00:19:53,059 --> 00:19:55,562 at about 100 yards away. 411 00:19:55,662 --> 00:19:58,465 I started taking pictures right away. 412 00:19:58,565 --> 00:20:01,601 I took 27 photographs over a period 413 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:05,272 of about three or four minutes as it crossed the marsh. 414 00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:09,909 I couldn't believe what I saw. 415 00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:13,145 It was almost ghostly. 416 00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:17,417 And it wasn't until the next day when I took the camera 417 00:20:17,517 --> 00:20:23,055 to the developer that I realized that I had actually 418 00:20:23,155 --> 00:20:27,927 captured a skunk ape on film. 419 00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:30,763 NARRATOR: With his photographs, David knew he needed 420 00:20:30,863 --> 00:20:33,132 some sort of corroboration. 421 00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:36,469 He called upon Dade County archaeologist Bob Carr 422 00:20:36,569 --> 00:20:38,338 to study his pictures. 423 00:20:38,438 --> 00:20:40,473 BOB CARR: These photographs were very compelling. 424 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:43,510 The statue, the size, the motion of this creature 425 00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:46,212 did not appear to be a human being. 426 00:20:46,313 --> 00:20:49,849 And the suggestion of the gate is very primate-like. 427 00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:53,420 I think there are enough details to make one realize 428 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,323 that this would have to be a very, very clever hoax 429 00:20:56,423 --> 00:20:58,190 to be perpetrated. 430 00:20:58,291 --> 00:20:59,492 NARRATOR: Now Bob Carr felt he should 431 00:20:59,592 --> 00:21:01,828 get some more verification. 432 00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:05,398 He brought in Everglades tracker TL Riggs. 433 00:21:05,498 --> 00:21:09,135 T.L. RIGGS: On two occasions, I found 434 00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:13,840 footprints in the soft earth. 435 00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:17,043 All the tracks that I saw at that particular time 436 00:21:17,143 --> 00:21:19,512 only the ball of the foot and the toe showed. 437 00:21:19,612 --> 00:21:24,751 There were none that showed that a heel had been left down. 438 00:21:24,851 --> 00:21:28,355 NARRATOR: Riggs made plaster castings of the footprints. 439 00:21:28,455 --> 00:21:30,790 T.L. RIGGS: Looking at just the front end of the foot, which 440 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:33,360 is all we can do, I would say that it would have 441 00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:37,664 to weigh at least 300 pounds. 442 00:21:37,764 --> 00:21:39,432 NARRATOR: TL Riggs came up with an idea 443 00:21:39,532 --> 00:21:41,568 for gathering more evidence. 444 00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:43,703 He wanted to collect hair samples, 445 00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:45,271 so he snapped a number of branches 446 00:21:45,372 --> 00:21:48,441 at a height of four to five feet, far too high a reach 447 00:21:48,541 --> 00:21:51,478 for most animals, that way he could snag 448 00:21:51,578 --> 00:21:53,980 some hair should a skunk ape come in contact 449 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,948 with the jagged edges. 450 00:21:56,048 --> 00:22:00,286 T.L. RIGGS: By setting a great number of those along trails, 451 00:22:00,387 --> 00:22:05,324 I've been able to harvest several legitimate 452 00:22:05,425 --> 00:22:10,597 looking hairs that are unlike anything I've ever seen. 453 00:22:10,697 --> 00:22:12,932 NARRATOR: Was the hair collected by TL Riggs 454 00:22:13,032 --> 00:22:15,234 from some unknown creature or simply 455 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:17,770 from a man in an ape suit? 456 00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:20,473 Unsolved Mysteries had two samples to a lab 457 00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:24,377 at Trinity University in San Antonio, Texas. 458 00:22:24,477 --> 00:22:25,812 BOB CARR: In my mind, the evidence 459 00:22:25,912 --> 00:22:28,581 we've looked at from Ochopee indicates there's definitely 460 00:22:28,681 --> 00:22:31,183 a phenomenon that's real. 461 00:22:31,283 --> 00:22:34,153 What we don't know is what that phenomenon is. 462 00:22:34,253 --> 00:22:37,524 We are closer to the answer probably than we've ever been, 463 00:22:37,624 --> 00:22:41,394 but the answer will only come when the hair is analyzed 464 00:22:41,494 --> 00:22:43,329 and DNA is extracted. 465 00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:47,900 And then we will know the molecular and genetic footprint 466 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,337 and who and what this creature might be. 467 00:22:51,438 --> 00:22:53,305 NARRATOR: We are still waiting for the results of the DNA 468 00:22:53,406 --> 00:22:56,008 tests, however electron microscopy has 469 00:22:56,108 --> 00:22:57,677 ruled out synthetic fibers as might 470 00:22:57,777 --> 00:22:59,546 be used in an ape costume. 471 00:22:59,646 --> 00:23:03,416 So far many mammals have been eliminated as well, including 472 00:23:03,516 --> 00:23:06,085 bears, gorillas, chimpanzees, skunks, 473 00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:09,889 dogs and cats and humans. 474 00:23:09,989 --> 00:23:12,959 We'll update the story when the DNA results become available. 475 00:23:13,059 --> 00:23:23,002 [music playing] 476 00:23:23,102 --> 00:23:25,938 NARRATOR: Coming up, one day a millionaire heiress 477 00:23:26,038 --> 00:23:27,306 disappeared. 478 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,676 10 years later, police discovered her body 479 00:23:29,776 --> 00:23:32,044 in a mysterious and a mysterious double life. 480 00:23:32,144 --> 00:23:34,747 Who killed Camilla Lyman and why? 481 00:23:42,021 --> 00:23:47,259 September 24 1997, Hopkinton, Rhode Island, dog breeder Greg 482 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,362 Siner was cleaning out the kennels on his new estate when 483 00:23:50,463 --> 00:23:53,365 he made a shocking discovery. 484 00:23:53,466 --> 00:23:54,867 GREG SINER: I was hosing down the kennel, 485 00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:58,204 and I smelled a foul odor and thought 486 00:23:58,304 --> 00:24:03,042 that maybe the septic system wasn't working properly. 487 00:24:03,142 --> 00:24:08,447 I decided to look inside to see if it needed to be pumped. 488 00:24:08,548 --> 00:24:15,154 And when I did there was a skull staring straight back up at me. 489 00:24:15,254 --> 00:24:19,926 Once I saw the bottom jaw, I realized it was human 490 00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:24,797 and just knew that this was Camilla. 491 00:24:24,897 --> 00:24:26,999 NARRATOR: Millionaire heiress Camilla Lyman, the estate's 492 00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:32,304 previous owner, 10 years earlier she had mysteriously vanished. 493 00:24:32,404 --> 00:24:35,074 In October 1998, dental records confirmed 494 00:24:35,174 --> 00:24:36,843 the skull was Camilla's. 495 00:24:36,943 --> 00:24:39,378 Police determined she'd been murdered. 496 00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:43,215 A missing persons case has suddenly become a homicide. 497 00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,552 Ironically the clues to Camilla Lyman's murder 498 00:24:45,652 --> 00:24:48,721 might not be found in the bizarre nature of her death, 499 00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:51,357 but in the strange and mysterious nature of her life. 500 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,228 Camilla Lyman grew up rich. 501 00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:59,632 Her parents were old money Boston aristocrats. 502 00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:03,235 Camilla shared her father's passion for show dogs. 503 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:05,538 Arthur Lyman soon discovered that his youngest 504 00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:08,240 daughter had quite a gift. 505 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:09,576 MARY MARGARET GOODALE: In the dog world, 506 00:25:09,676 --> 00:25:10,743 she was very successful. 507 00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:14,013 She was a good handler and she was a good breeder 508 00:25:14,113 --> 00:25:17,383 and she showed her dogs extremely well. 509 00:25:17,483 --> 00:25:20,920 She was very proficient. 510 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,790 NARRATOR: Camilla never dated, never married. 511 00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:25,958 Her dogs were her life. 512 00:25:26,058 --> 00:25:28,527 A solitary spinster, she lived with her parents 513 00:25:28,628 --> 00:25:31,130 on their 100 acre estate. 514 00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:34,166 Arthur Lyman died in 1968. 515 00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:36,836 When Camilla's mother died five years later, 516 00:25:36,936 --> 00:25:39,338 her world seemed to fall apart. 517 00:25:39,438 --> 00:25:45,845 40, alone, her behavior became more and more bizarre. 518 00:25:45,945 --> 00:25:49,616 MARY MARGARET GOODALE: Probably in middle to late 70s, 519 00:25:49,716 --> 00:25:52,318 it began to be apparent that the Westward 520 00:25:52,418 --> 00:25:56,623 Place was not being taken care of the way it should be. 521 00:25:56,723 --> 00:25:57,824 Good babies. 522 00:25:57,924 --> 00:25:58,825 My sweeties. 523 00:25:58,925 --> 00:26:00,192 NARRATOR: Camilla became a recluse. 524 00:26:00,292 --> 00:26:03,963 She spent more time with her dogs than she did with people. 525 00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:06,866 Camilla's appearance began to change as well. 526 00:26:06,966 --> 00:26:10,703 She bought animal steroids, then took them herself. 527 00:26:10,803 --> 00:26:11,938 Her voice deepened. 528 00:26:12,038 --> 00:26:14,006 She developed facial hair. 529 00:26:14,106 --> 00:26:16,909 She began wearing men's clothing. 530 00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:20,046 To the outside world, Camilla had been transformed 531 00:26:20,146 --> 00:26:22,749 into a middle aged man. 532 00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:24,116 MARY MARGARET GOODALE: And then my sister 533 00:26:24,216 --> 00:26:25,718 in California called me up and said, 534 00:26:25,818 --> 00:26:29,188 hey, Camilla's on the TV dressed as a man, what do you think? 535 00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:33,926 And I said, well, I'd heard that she did sometimes do that. 536 00:26:34,026 --> 00:26:37,296 NARRATOR: In this rare video shot in 1978, 537 00:26:37,396 --> 00:26:39,799 Camilla was dressed as a woman. 538 00:26:39,899 --> 00:26:44,937 By 1985, she'd legally changed her name Cam Lyman 539 00:26:45,037 --> 00:26:48,340 and was dressing as a man. 540 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,877 MARY MARGARET GOODALE: It was shocking in a way 541 00:26:50,977 --> 00:26:52,544 and very surprising. 542 00:26:52,645 --> 00:26:56,883 But because of your respect for people's privacy, 543 00:26:56,983 --> 00:27:00,619 unless Camilla wished to explain why she was doing this, 544 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,388 we didn't ask any questions about it. 545 00:27:02,488 --> 00:27:05,892 We just accepted it the way it was. 546 00:27:05,992 --> 00:27:07,626 GREG SINER: I remember people talking about Camilla, 547 00:27:07,727 --> 00:27:12,598 and the changing of her clothing and her appearance. 548 00:27:12,699 --> 00:27:15,902 But you have to remember you are dog shows. 549 00:27:16,002 --> 00:27:18,337 You're judging dogs, not people. 550 00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:20,606 I think Camilla felt very comfortable 551 00:27:20,707 --> 00:27:21,808 amongst her dog friends. 552 00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:28,748 NARRATOR: In the early 1980s now dressing as a man isolated 553 00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:32,284 from her family, Cam became friends with fellow dog 554 00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:35,221 lover George O'Neill. 555 00:27:35,321 --> 00:27:37,456 CHARLES ALLEN: George O'Neill became 556 00:27:37,556 --> 00:27:41,393 the sole confidant, adviser, accountant, 557 00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:43,796 and representative of Camilla. 558 00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:46,265 Cam, we don't have the money to do this right now. 559 00:27:46,365 --> 00:27:47,867 CHARLES ALLEN: He took care of paying her bills. 560 00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:49,435 He took care of arranging for her 561 00:27:49,535 --> 00:27:53,305 to get to dog shows and many times getting her to the shows. 562 00:27:53,405 --> 00:27:59,045 He was a friend who she socialized with and had 563 00:27:59,145 --> 00:28:01,413 great confidence in his abilities to help 564 00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:03,615 her conduct her affairs. 565 00:28:03,716 --> 00:28:04,516 In the car. 566 00:28:04,616 --> 00:28:06,418 Let's go in the car. 567 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:07,787 CHARLES ALLEN: As George O'Neill took 568 00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:11,724 over more and more duties and chores for Camilla, 569 00:28:11,824 --> 00:28:13,259 he became her sole confidant. 570 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,730 She associated with no one other than George O'Neill. 571 00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:19,398 Camilla became more and more eccentric. 572 00:28:19,498 --> 00:28:21,233 She would often carry a briefcase 573 00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:22,802 with hundreds of thousands of dollars 574 00:28:22,902 --> 00:28:24,470 and large amounts of jewelry in it. 575 00:28:24,570 --> 00:28:28,174 She would go out to the store and have $10,000 in her pocket 576 00:28:28,274 --> 00:28:29,809 to buy a quart of milk. 577 00:28:29,909 --> 00:28:31,610 MARY MARGARET GOODALE: No, I don't know what to think. 578 00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:32,678 I really don't know. 579 00:28:32,779 --> 00:28:35,714 NARRATOR: December 1987, Camilla's friends 580 00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:38,650 didn't receive their usual Christmas card. 581 00:28:38,751 --> 00:28:41,487 Camilla hadn't been heard from for months. 582 00:28:41,587 --> 00:28:44,723 Concerned, the family contacted the law firm 583 00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:46,926 in charge of the Lyman trust. 584 00:28:47,026 --> 00:28:50,362 They in turn hired Charles Allen. 585 00:28:50,462 --> 00:28:52,999 CHARLES ALLEN: They were very concerned, 586 00:28:53,099 --> 00:28:57,003 because checks that had been sent to Camilla had rather 587 00:28:57,103 --> 00:28:58,971 than being endorsed with her signature 588 00:28:59,071 --> 00:29:01,874 were being endorsed with an account number of a bank 589 00:29:01,974 --> 00:29:05,311 account in Rhode Island. 590 00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:06,645 NARRATOR: Allen claims that George 591 00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:10,049 O'Neill had been depositing Camilla's trust fund checks. 592 00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:12,551 He was surprised to discover O'Neil held 593 00:29:12,651 --> 00:29:14,987 Camilla's power of attorney. 594 00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:18,190 Even more surprising to Allen, George O'Neil 595 00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:20,993 was Camilla's sole beneficiary and stood 596 00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:23,295 to inherit her estate. 597 00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:24,330 Yeah. 598 00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,298 Mr. O'neil, my name is Charles Allen. 599 00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:28,835 I'm here to inquire about Camilla Lyman. 600 00:29:28,935 --> 00:29:29,902 I haven't seen her 601 00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:31,270 CHARLES ALLEN: Mr. O'Neil did not express 602 00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:33,272 any concern for her safety. 603 00:29:33,372 --> 00:29:36,475 He felt that she had done this before 604 00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:39,812 and that she had just gone off on a trip. 605 00:29:39,912 --> 00:29:41,814 I understand all of that. 606 00:29:41,914 --> 00:29:43,615 NARRATOR: Reportedly, O'Neil claimed 607 00:29:43,715 --> 00:29:47,086 he'd last spoken with Camilla in July in 1987, 608 00:29:47,186 --> 00:29:49,055 a full year earlier. 609 00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:51,657 In the middle of an argument, she hung up on him. 610 00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:56,462 CHARLES ALLEN: He told me that on the following day 611 00:29:56,562 --> 00:30:00,933 he went to Camilla's house and found the telephone ripped out 612 00:30:01,033 --> 00:30:04,503 of the wall and found no sign of Camilla 613 00:30:04,603 --> 00:30:10,176 and found her dogs unattended, unfed, and found the kennel 614 00:30:10,276 --> 00:30:13,379 somewhat in disarray. 615 00:30:13,479 --> 00:30:16,448 Mr. O'Neill indicated that he felt 616 00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:18,550 that Camilla may have gone off to Europe 617 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:22,388 to have a sex change operation. 618 00:30:22,488 --> 00:30:25,257 NARRATOR: Camilla had been missing for over a year. 619 00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:27,593 No police report had been filed. 620 00:30:27,693 --> 00:30:30,496 Nobody in the family had been notified. 621 00:30:30,596 --> 00:30:33,900 Yet, according to Charles Allen, George O'Neil continued 622 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,869 to deposit Camilla's checks. 623 00:30:36,969 --> 00:30:38,037 CHARLES ALLEN: I found it very hard 624 00:30:38,137 --> 00:30:40,372 to believe that a woman who didn't like going 625 00:30:40,472 --> 00:30:43,442 to the dentist, who didn't like going to the doctor 626 00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:47,346 would go off to Europe and have a sex change operation. 627 00:30:47,446 --> 00:30:49,415 This woman didn't like leaving her home. 628 00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:52,118 Here in the main kennel, we have room for 50 dogs. 629 00:30:52,218 --> 00:30:53,752 NARRATOR: George O'Neil hired full time 630 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:55,888 caretakers for the kennels. 631 00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:58,624 Greg Siner says O'Neil began showing Camilla's 632 00:30:58,724 --> 00:31:01,260 champion Spaniel as his own. 633 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,361 Clean them out. 634 00:31:02,461 --> 00:31:04,396 GREG SINER: Camilla was no longer around, 635 00:31:04,496 --> 00:31:07,466 but the dog was still out there being campaigned. 636 00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:10,536 And he was now campaigned under the ownership 637 00:31:10,636 --> 00:31:14,006 of George and June O'Neil. 638 00:31:14,106 --> 00:31:16,442 NARRATOR: Charles Allen claims that much of Camilla's 639 00:31:16,542 --> 00:31:19,678 net worth from bank accounts to family heirlooms 640 00:31:19,778 --> 00:31:22,748 had simply disappeared. 641 00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:24,250 CHARLES ALLEN: We're talking about between $3 642 00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:26,218 and $5 million dollars here. 643 00:31:26,318 --> 00:31:28,454 Some of that was in antiques. 644 00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:29,421 Some of it was in money. 645 00:31:29,521 --> 00:31:31,257 Some of it was in stock. 646 00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:35,962 And its whereabouts are unknown at this time. 647 00:31:36,062 --> 00:31:37,696 NARRATOR: And then there was the question 648 00:31:37,796 --> 00:31:40,466 of Camilla's beloved dogs. 649 00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:42,368 MARY MARGARET GOODALE: When I first heard George O'Neil's 650 00:31:42,468 --> 00:31:46,105 story, I absolutely never crossed my mind 651 00:31:46,205 --> 00:31:47,306 that it was a true story. 652 00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:50,076 Because she never ever would have left her dogs. 653 00:31:50,176 --> 00:31:52,378 It was totally out of character. 654 00:31:52,478 --> 00:31:53,712 Any chance that we could maybe go 655 00:31:53,812 --> 00:31:55,681 over and get on the property, maybe take a look around. 656 00:31:55,781 --> 00:31:56,748 She's not there. 657 00:31:56,848 --> 00:31:58,017 I'm telling you she's not there. 658 00:31:58,117 --> 00:31:59,351 CHARLES ALLEN: On a number of occasions, 659 00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:01,187 I wanted to search the property. 660 00:32:01,287 --> 00:32:02,588 And this search would have certainly 661 00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:04,957 included the septic system, but George O'Neil 662 00:32:05,057 --> 00:32:05,857 would not allow it. 663 00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:12,898 NARRATOR: In December 1994, a probate hearing was held. 664 00:32:12,999 --> 00:32:16,768 Camilla "Cam" Lyman was declared legally dead. 665 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:22,574 Three years later, her body was found in the septic tank. 666 00:32:22,674 --> 00:32:24,543 MARY MARGARET GOODALE: The fact that we could bury Camilla 667 00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:30,382 and physically put an end to her life in a peaceful way 668 00:32:30,482 --> 00:32:33,485 was a wonderful sense of closure for us. 669 00:32:33,585 --> 00:32:39,458 On the other hand, there's still more that we need to pursue. 670 00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:41,627 We need to bring the person who committed 671 00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:48,567 this unbelievable crime to justice. 672 00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:51,837 A strange life, a mysterious death, 673 00:32:51,937 --> 00:32:53,939 a family searching for answers. 674 00:32:54,040 --> 00:33:10,956 [music playing] 675 00:33:11,057 --> 00:33:13,859 NARRATOR: Next, he's no ordinary investigator, 676 00:33:13,959 --> 00:33:16,228 but this is no ordinary case. 677 00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:19,831 Join us for his spine tingling tour of a real haunted house. 678 00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:29,675 It seemed like a nice house on a nice street 679 00:33:29,775 --> 00:33:31,610 in a nice neighborhood. 680 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:34,280 Nothing extraordinary about it at all, 681 00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:37,783 or so thought Ed and Mary Woods of Vancouver, Washington. 682 00:33:37,883 --> 00:33:41,153 But that was before the peculiar noises and the eerie encounters 683 00:33:41,253 --> 00:33:42,854 with things that go bump in the night. 684 00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:49,828 At first it was almost imperceptible, a quiet rattle, 685 00:33:49,928 --> 00:33:53,532 a slight chill, the barest whisper of a presence, 686 00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:56,568 until some seven months after Ed and Mary moved in. 687 00:34:00,306 --> 00:34:03,775 MARY WOODS: I've heard the sound of music box. 688 00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:07,913 It was very faint. 689 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:19,891 I went into my husband's office and looked around. 690 00:34:22,661 --> 00:34:27,366 There was no sign of anything in there, but I kept hearing it. 691 00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:30,736 And it wasn't something I heard in my mind 692 00:34:30,836 --> 00:34:32,371 like you would imagine it. 693 00:34:32,471 --> 00:34:35,207 It was an actual sound in the house. 694 00:34:35,307 --> 00:34:37,876 I thought somebody had opened up a music box, 695 00:34:37,976 --> 00:34:39,645 and it was playing. 696 00:34:39,745 --> 00:34:42,348 ED WOODS: The first time I had an experience where I noticed 697 00:34:42,448 --> 00:34:46,051 something actually happening I was sitting in my office 698 00:34:46,152 --> 00:34:46,952 with the door closed. 699 00:34:55,494 --> 00:34:57,296 NARRATOR: Mary had warned Ed that there was something 700 00:34:57,396 --> 00:34:59,498 very odd about the house. 701 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:04,170 But Ed just assumed his daughter was playing a prank. 702 00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:07,639 ED WOODS: I thought I'd surprise her by opening the door, 703 00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:09,975 and there was nobody there. 704 00:35:10,075 --> 00:35:12,144 And I checked and everyone in the house was asleep. 705 00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:17,249 MARY WOODS: I called University of Washington, 706 00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:20,152 because they have a seismograph station down here 707 00:35:20,252 --> 00:35:21,720 in Vancouver monitoring the fault 708 00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:24,856 lines from Mount Saint Helens. 709 00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:27,226 They told me at that time there were no fault 710 00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,060 lines running through the area. 711 00:35:29,161 --> 00:35:30,729 There was no underground aquifer. 712 00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:34,266 There was no weakness that could account 713 00:35:34,366 --> 00:35:36,368 for any type of movement in the house other 714 00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:38,504 than normal settling that will happen with the house 715 00:35:38,604 --> 00:35:39,405 as it gets older. 716 00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:46,445 NARRATOR: But if mother nature wasn't responsible, then who 717 00:35:46,545 --> 00:35:49,114 or what was stirring up all the trouble. 718 00:35:49,215 --> 00:35:50,749 Mary was about to find out. 719 00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:01,627 MARY WOODS: I actually saw the figure of a woman. 720 00:36:01,727 --> 00:36:05,664 She was about my height wearing a scarf around her head 721 00:36:05,764 --> 00:36:09,768 and like a long flannel nightgown. 722 00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:11,503 I was not scared of her. 723 00:36:11,603 --> 00:36:15,474 I did not get the impression that she was mean. 724 00:36:15,574 --> 00:36:17,343 I was startled. 725 00:36:17,443 --> 00:36:18,910 I mean, you have something come out of the hall 726 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:20,912 and you're going, OK. 727 00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:23,081 But, no, I was not frightened of her. 728 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:25,917 I was startled by her. 729 00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:27,653 NARRATOR: After several encounters, 730 00:36:27,753 --> 00:36:29,488 Mary decided to do a little research. 731 00:36:32,324 --> 00:36:33,892 MARY WOODS: I have been able to identify her 732 00:36:33,992 --> 00:36:35,427 through going through records. 733 00:36:35,527 --> 00:36:40,466 She was a former resident who had died in the home 734 00:36:40,566 --> 00:36:41,700 of a prolonged illness. 735 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,769 She had died of cancer. 736 00:36:43,869 --> 00:36:45,604 The latter part of the-- 737 00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:48,740 her life towards the end, because of the heavy radiation 738 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,009 and chemotherapy, she wore scarves because she 739 00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:53,011 had lost all her hair. 740 00:36:53,111 --> 00:36:58,049 And she practically lived in flannel nightgowns. 741 00:36:58,149 --> 00:36:59,651 I get the feeling of protectiveness, 742 00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:01,753 like, she's watching over the kids. 743 00:37:01,853 --> 00:37:05,056 Going in, checking on the kids, making sure they're OK. 744 00:37:05,156 --> 00:37:07,025 I found out later that her children were 745 00:37:07,125 --> 00:37:11,363 in the same bedrooms that my children are in, 746 00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:12,998 and it could be she's just looking for hers. 747 00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:18,804 NARRATOR: It didn't take long for word to get around, 748 00:37:18,904 --> 00:37:21,807 the house 37th Street was haunted. 749 00:37:21,907 --> 00:37:25,677 Even the local newspaper wrote it up. 750 00:37:25,777 --> 00:37:27,746 MARY WOODS: About a week after the article came out, 751 00:37:27,846 --> 00:37:30,749 I received a phone call from the mother of one 752 00:37:30,849 --> 00:37:32,984 of my daughter's friends. 753 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:36,922 She had known the woman who lived in the house prior to us. 754 00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:40,459 She had helped take care of her before she died. 755 00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,093 She asked me if I'd ever see any pictures of her. 756 00:37:42,193 --> 00:37:44,430 I said, no, I've never seen any pictures. 757 00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:47,499 She said the two of you could pass as twins. 758 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,001 She said that might be one of the reasons 759 00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:53,605 that she's attached herself to you 760 00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:55,206 is because you're about the same age 761 00:37:55,307 --> 00:37:58,176 as she was when she passed away, and the two of you 762 00:37:58,276 --> 00:37:59,277 look quite a bit alike. 763 00:38:02,247 --> 00:38:06,552 NARRATOR: But the lady in white was just the beginning. 764 00:38:06,652 --> 00:38:08,387 ED WOODS: The first thing I actually saw was a man 765 00:38:08,487 --> 00:38:11,423 standing in the living room. 766 00:38:11,523 --> 00:38:14,626 Looked like an old riverboat gambler with a little ribbon 767 00:38:14,726 --> 00:38:17,295 tie and a mustache. 768 00:38:17,396 --> 00:38:19,297 You look at him twice, because you're not too sure 769 00:38:19,398 --> 00:38:20,499 if he's going to do something. 770 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,601 He never moves though. 771 00:38:22,701 --> 00:38:27,005 He's always perfectly still just looking down the hall, 772 00:38:27,105 --> 00:38:31,009 but he seems just very inimical like you wouldn't 773 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:32,077 want to cross this guy. 774 00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:38,350 NARRATOR: Yet another apparition seen by both Ed and Larry 775 00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:40,285 is far less sinister. 776 00:38:40,386 --> 00:38:41,553 They call her pinky. 777 00:38:45,457 --> 00:38:51,630 ED WOODS: Pinky is a little girl 8 to 10 years old. 778 00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:53,098 And once in awhile, you hear her giggle. 779 00:38:57,035 --> 00:38:58,036 MARY WOODS: First time, I thought 780 00:38:58,136 --> 00:38:59,971 it was our youngest daughter. 781 00:39:00,071 --> 00:39:02,140 We'd been sitting in the living room watching movies, 782 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,309 and I thought it was my youngest daughter 783 00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:06,545 giggling at the movies. 784 00:39:06,645 --> 00:39:07,946 So I looked down and realized she 785 00:39:08,046 --> 00:39:09,781 had fallen asleep in front of the TV 786 00:39:09,881 --> 00:39:12,017 and was sound asleep, so there was no way. 787 00:39:15,554 --> 00:39:17,322 NARRATOR: For Ed and Mary, the extraordinary 788 00:39:17,423 --> 00:39:19,491 was becoming commonplace. 789 00:39:19,591 --> 00:39:21,793 Consider the spirit in the shower, 790 00:39:21,893 --> 00:39:25,564 never seen but definitely felt. 791 00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:27,566 ED WOODS: Ourselves and many people 792 00:39:27,666 --> 00:39:29,668 that have been guests of ours who've 793 00:39:29,768 --> 00:39:34,706 taken baths or showers have found themselves accompanied 794 00:39:34,806 --> 00:39:41,480 in the shower by a friendly hug and general body rub that seems 795 00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:44,215 to be quite female in nature. 796 00:39:44,315 --> 00:39:46,418 Doesn't seem to matter if the person taking a shower 797 00:39:46,518 --> 00:39:49,054 is male or female. 798 00:39:49,154 --> 00:39:52,257 Just somebody's who's been gone a long time I think 799 00:39:52,357 --> 00:39:56,895 and missed some of the things that the world had to provide. 800 00:39:56,995 --> 00:39:59,831 NARRATOR: When Ed's son came to visit, 801 00:39:59,931 --> 00:40:03,068 he got the welcome of a lifetime. 802 00:40:03,168 --> 00:40:04,770 MARY WOODS: He went, took a shower, came out, 803 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:07,038 and the first thing out of his mouth as he looked at his dad 804 00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:10,509 and said, OK, what's with the shower? 805 00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:12,511 Honestly, I thought they were teasing me. 806 00:40:12,611 --> 00:40:16,047 I thought they were just giving me a line about the ghosts. 807 00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:18,349 About a week later, I went in and took a shower 808 00:40:18,450 --> 00:40:20,385 and got a very friendly hug. 809 00:40:20,486 --> 00:40:22,654 And I came out and I looked at my husband and I says, 810 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:28,426 I think you're ghost likes either sex. 811 00:40:28,527 --> 00:40:29,961 NARRATOR: According to Ed and Mary, 812 00:40:30,061 --> 00:40:31,797 the ghostly activities in the house 813 00:40:31,897 --> 00:40:35,967 often go beyond shadowy specters and gentle caresses. 814 00:40:36,067 --> 00:40:37,603 We've been here for like four or five years. 815 00:40:37,703 --> 00:40:39,404 - Ed, hang on a second. - I mean it's ridiculous. 816 00:40:39,505 --> 00:40:40,305 What? 817 00:40:44,643 --> 00:40:46,678 ED WOODS: You'll hear a crash in the bathroom. 818 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,113 And when you walk back in, everything 819 00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:51,216 will be laying down on the counters or on the floor. 820 00:40:51,316 --> 00:40:53,919 Nothing ever seems to be broken. 821 00:40:54,019 --> 00:40:57,055 MARY WOODS: You'll see things being moved around, rattled, 822 00:40:57,155 --> 00:41:00,526 pictures being moved almost every day for about three 823 00:41:00,626 --> 00:41:02,093 or four months, and then it'll die 824 00:41:02,193 --> 00:41:03,995 down for a couple of months. 825 00:41:06,932 --> 00:41:09,668 I've come to accept it just under the fact 826 00:41:09,768 --> 00:41:12,270 that there are things in this world we can't explain. 827 00:41:14,906 --> 00:41:16,642 NARRATOR: As far as the Woods' were concerned, 828 00:41:16,742 --> 00:41:18,243 there was little doubt. 829 00:41:18,343 --> 00:41:19,444 The house was haunted. 830 00:41:22,648 --> 00:41:25,116 They called in an expert in all things paranormal, 831 00:41:25,216 --> 00:41:26,985 a professional ghost buster if you will, 832 00:41:27,085 --> 00:41:29,688 to conduct a thorough investigation. 833 00:41:29,788 --> 00:41:31,456 Perhaps, he could make some sense out 834 00:41:31,557 --> 00:41:34,726 of the house on 37th Street. 835 00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:37,362 All right, let's go ahead and move down the hallway here. 836 00:41:37,462 --> 00:41:38,697 Now, I want to tell me-- both of you 837 00:41:38,797 --> 00:41:41,099 tell me just pretty much where the lady 838 00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:43,001 in white, where things happen. 839 00:41:43,101 --> 00:41:45,170 NARRATOR: Lloyd Auerbach, a lecturer and writer 840 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:47,472 has been investigating paranormal phenomena 841 00:41:47,573 --> 00:41:49,608 for nearly two decades. 842 00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:51,276 Our cameras were on hand when he paid 843 00:41:51,376 --> 00:41:53,912 his first visit to the house. 844 00:41:54,012 --> 00:41:55,914 Auerbach came armed with an open mind 845 00:41:56,014 --> 00:41:58,717 and an instrument called a magnetometer. 846 00:41:58,817 --> 00:42:01,720 LOYD AUERBACH: It was read next to nothing, literally. 847 00:42:01,820 --> 00:42:03,889 The magnetometer that I use is sold 848 00:42:03,989 --> 00:42:07,559 for detecting whether or not you have electromagnetic pollution. 849 00:42:07,659 --> 00:42:09,795 It's not a ghost detector by any way, shape, or form. 850 00:42:09,895 --> 00:42:11,963 It's a good indicator that there's a physical connection 851 00:42:12,063 --> 00:42:14,733 in the environment to their experience 852 00:42:14,833 --> 00:42:16,534 that helps validate that they're not completely 853 00:42:16,635 --> 00:42:18,503 making it up in their minds. 854 00:42:18,604 --> 00:42:20,171 It helps me understand that they're not completely 855 00:42:20,271 --> 00:42:21,406 making it up in their minds also, 856 00:42:21,506 --> 00:42:23,274 that there is some correlation. 857 00:42:26,144 --> 00:42:29,581 NARRATOR: Auerbach painstakingly made his way through the house. 858 00:42:29,681 --> 00:42:31,516 LOYD AUERBACH: OK, and now we got a reading again. 859 00:42:31,617 --> 00:42:33,518 NARRATOR: In several areas, the magnetometer 860 00:42:33,619 --> 00:42:38,123 spiked without explanation, most notably in the back bathroom. 861 00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:39,190 LOYD AUERBACH: It's fairly high. 862 00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:40,458 NARRATOR: The living room. 863 00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:42,193 LOYD AUERBACH: I'm getting some things in the corner. 864 00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:43,528 NARRATOR: And the hallway. 865 00:42:43,629 --> 00:42:44,996 LOYD AUERBACH: I'm getting actually a high reading again, 866 00:42:45,096 --> 00:42:46,197 a high energy reading, which just, 867 00:42:46,297 --> 00:42:47,432 kind of, suddenly spiked up. 868 00:42:47,532 --> 00:42:51,603 This is a very unusual pattern that we're seeing here 869 00:42:51,703 --> 00:42:53,672 that seems to relate to the phenomena 870 00:42:53,772 --> 00:42:55,607 or at least to a sensation of it, 871 00:42:55,707 --> 00:42:57,876 but doesn't seem to relate to anything else. 872 00:42:57,976 --> 00:43:00,846 So I can pretty much rule out the physical environment 873 00:43:00,946 --> 00:43:02,180 for causing this. 874 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,749 You don't have like a generator under the house 875 00:43:03,849 --> 00:43:05,083 somewhere do you. 876 00:43:05,183 --> 00:43:06,417 MARY WOODS: No. 877 00:43:06,517 --> 00:43:07,953 LOYD AUERBACH: Over the years, I've done investigations. 878 00:43:08,053 --> 00:43:10,055 I have started feeling things myself. 879 00:43:10,155 --> 00:43:13,358 I wouldn't call myself by any means a psychic, 880 00:43:13,458 --> 00:43:14,993 but I would say that I'm becoming 881 00:43:15,093 --> 00:43:17,495 more aware of my sensitivities. 882 00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:20,666 And I tend to get a sinus pressure that often makes 883 00:43:20,766 --> 00:43:23,068 me feel like I need more oxygen, which makes me yawn 884 00:43:23,168 --> 00:43:24,602 or start feeling tired. 885 00:43:24,703 --> 00:43:26,437 And this was happening to me on a cyclical basis 886 00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:28,406 while I've been here, and it was connecting directly 887 00:43:28,506 --> 00:43:29,975 to the magnetometer reading. 888 00:43:30,075 --> 00:43:32,577 You're feeling like somebody's around right now. 889 00:43:32,678 --> 00:43:33,444 Any sense of. 890 00:43:33,544 --> 00:43:35,246 MARY WOODS: Once in a while. 891 00:43:35,346 --> 00:43:38,817 For myself, there was an odd correspondence 892 00:43:38,917 --> 00:43:41,219 I guess with the spike in the meters, 893 00:43:41,319 --> 00:43:45,190 and I'd get a real cold feeling or a chill down the back 894 00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:47,125 of my neck or the hair on my arms 895 00:43:47,225 --> 00:43:50,796 would raise up like goosebumps. 896 00:43:50,896 --> 00:43:52,197 It didn't happen all the time. 897 00:43:55,533 --> 00:43:57,635 But on several of the occasions, I felt like there 898 00:43:57,736 --> 00:43:59,838 was somebody in the room. 899 00:43:59,938 --> 00:44:01,006 I don't know if I'm just picking up 900 00:44:01,106 --> 00:44:04,442 on things that have been going on, 901 00:44:04,542 --> 00:44:07,645 or if there actually was somebody there. 902 00:44:07,746 --> 00:44:09,347 Now, this one I've seen several times, 903 00:44:09,447 --> 00:44:11,316 but he's been at the end of the hallway. 904 00:44:11,416 --> 00:44:14,720 NARRATOR: Was somebody or something there? 905 00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:17,155 Perhaps, a few agitated spirits trying 906 00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:20,625 to bridge the gulf between the dead and the living. 907 00:44:20,726 --> 00:44:22,593 Lloyd Auerbach believes it is possible, 908 00:44:22,694 --> 00:44:25,163 but by no means definite. 909 00:44:25,263 --> 00:44:28,834 Ed and Mary Woods, however, have moved beyond possibility 910 00:44:28,934 --> 00:44:29,968 to certainty. 911 00:44:39,811 --> 00:44:42,948 The stories we have examined are still shrouded in mystery, 912 00:44:43,048 --> 00:44:45,016 still needing that one final clue that will 913 00:44:45,116 --> 00:44:46,885 unlock the truth. 914 00:44:46,985 --> 00:44:48,686 Perhaps someone watching can shed light 915 00:44:48,787 --> 00:44:50,688 on these perplexing cases. 916 00:44:50,789 --> 00:44:52,657 Perhaps, that someone is you. 917 00:44:52,758 --> 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