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VOICEOVER: Tonight on
"Unsolved Mysteries."
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ROBERT STACK: The legend
of Bugsy Siegel, handsome,
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sexy, a cold-blooded killer.
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But one night in Beverly
Hills, the mafia's hunter
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became the hunted.
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In Southern California,
rain slicked roads
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lead to a brush with death.
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In New Jersey, another accident,
terrifying and nearly fatal.
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Soon after, both drivers claimed
they could predict the future.
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Can a car crash make
you suddenly psychic?
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For Marlys Thomas
it should have been
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the happiest day of her life.
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The doctors dropped
a bombshell--
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her seemingly healthy
baby had died.
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Today, a series of baffling
contradictions that led
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Marlys to believe
the impossible--
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her daughter may still be alive.
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For generations, the
streets of Queens, New York,
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have seen aspiring
gangsters come and go.
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But according to the FBI,
Paulie Ragusa is one of a kind.
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A would be wise guy intent
on making a name for himself
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by whatever means possible.
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Join me as we try
to help authorities
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and the families
of crime victims
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bring closure to
unsolved mysteries.
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[theme music playing]
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For mobsters in the 1940s,
live in New York, Chicago,
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and Los Angeles was brutal.
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Mafia bosses took
pride in killing
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and getting away with it.
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But there is one
famous hit for which
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no one has ever taken credit,
the murder of Bugsy Siegel.
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In the late evening
of June 20, 1947,
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Siegel relaxed in the Beverly
Hills home of his girlfriend.
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The mob's top assassin had
no idea that he was a target.
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Nine shots were fired into the
room, four found their mark.
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Bugsy Siegel died instantly.
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The list of suspects read
like a classic whodunnit,
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business associates, a
girlfriend, even a bodyguard.
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But police investigating
Siegel's murder
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hit the wall of the
mafia's code of silence,
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a wall that still exists today.
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The main frustration
that I have in the case
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is all my witnesses are either
gone or still won't talk.
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So the frustration is is that
I'm running out of time, if I
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haven't lost that time
already, and I'm just still
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not getting any information.
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For Beverly Hills Police,
the murder of Bugsy Siegel
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is still an open case.
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But with each passing
year, the chances
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of solving the glamorous
city's most notorious crime
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become slimmer.
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Tonight, the suspect
list is in your hands.
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Can you figure out who
killed Bugsy Siegel?
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His real name was
Benjamin Siegel.
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He was the mob's
most feared hit man.
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Beneath the smile
of the handsome
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New Yorker was the heart
of a cold-blooded killer.
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Siegel's violent
temper was legendary.
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Underworld figures
talked for years
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about how he took revenge after
being injured in a bomb blast.
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He sneaked out of the
hospital at 2 AM, got into a car
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with his associates, drove
to the home of the suspect
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in Brooklyn.
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When the door was
answered, bang, bang, bang,
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they shot him.
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And back in the car, sneaked
him back into the hospital.
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He had a perfect alibi.
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ROBERT STACK: Siegel formed a
partnership with Meyer Lansky
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in New York, an organized
crime syndicate that
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sold liquor during
prohibition then
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worked its way into
gambling, prostitution,
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and murder for hire.
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Ben Siegel and Meyer Lansky
were a great combination,
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they complimented each other.
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Lansky did the dicking, it
was Bugsy who did the whacking.
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ROBERT STACK: In the early
'40s, Siegel and Lansky
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teamed up with
another east coast
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mafia boss, Lucky Luciano.
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When the team of Siegel,
Lansky, and Luciano
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decided to expand
their territory,
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it was the beginning
of the end for Bugsy.
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He was set to take control
of gambling in California.
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There, he faced a major problem.
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Suspect number one, Jack Dragna.
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And there ain't no one
going to stand in my way.
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Right, Jack?
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They'd be stupid.
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ROBERT STACK: Dragna controlled
a lucrative wire service used
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by bookies across the country.
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Bugsy made a simple proposal--
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give up the wire or
give up your life.
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Dragna chose to live which gave
him two motives to kill Bugsy
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Siegel, jealousy and revenge.
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After Bugsy died, Jack Dragna
got his wires service back.
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Bugsy ran the mob's business in
Tinseltown with the showmanship
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of a Hollywood superstar.
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He began an affair with
suspect number two--
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Virginia Hill, an alleged
cash courier for the mob.
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But Hill may have had her own
reasons for wanting Bugsy dead.
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She was leading a double life.
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Virginia Hill was
definitely connected
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someway with Chicago mob.
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She was out there
keeping an eye on Bugsy
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and feeding the
Chicago Mob information
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on Bugsy's activities.
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ROBERT STACK: On the night Bugsy
was killed in Virginia's home,
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she was out of town
by coincidence or not.
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In Hollywood, only one man
seemed to hold his ground
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against Bugsy Siegel.
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Suspect number three--
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Mickey Cohen was a Cleveland
gangster newly transplanted
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to LA.
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Siegel could have killed
him but instead, he
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put him on his payroll.
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Ben liked that, that
this guy stood up to him.
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He liked it so much that he
made him his personal body
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guard, really.
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ROBERT STACK: After
Siegel's death,
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Cohen was given control
of west coast gambling,
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a promotion he would never
have seen with Bugsy alive.
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When gambling became
legal in Nevada,
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Siegel saw the
opportunity of a lifetime.
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He envisioned a luxurious casino
like the world had never seen.
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Bugsy figured the Flamingo
would cost a million dollars.
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Lansky and Luciano gave him
the money but one million
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became two, two became
four, and four became six.
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Lansky and Luciano became
the final suspects.
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They needed to plug
a loose cannon that
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was financially out of control.
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It has to stop and stop now.
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Lansky did go out and
visit Siegel in Nevada.
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And I think he cautioned
him and he warned
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him, pay attention
to the business,
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don't let the
costs get too high.
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Your investors are not happy.
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ROBERT STACK: There
were also rumors
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that Siegel was pocketing
some of his investor's
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money to support Virginia Hill.
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She was a very, very
expensive playmate.
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They probably had a feeling
that he was spending some
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of their money on Virginia.
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ROBERT STACK: 20 minutes
after Siegel's death,
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two members of the
Lansky/Luciano mob
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took control of the
Flamingo Casino.
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I'm your new boss.
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Mr. Siegels no longer
in the picture.
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If you have any
questions, you can
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call our friends in New York.
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ROBERT STACK: No one believed
the timing of the takeover
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was coincidental.
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Investigators have little
doubt that Siegel's hit
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was a professional job.
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But which of the
suspects could have
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been involved in Bugsy's death?
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Some feel the most likely
scenario involves them all.
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Virginia Hill provided the
location for the murder
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and possibly was given a reward.
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She had $2, $3 million
in a Swiss bank account.
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ROBERT STACK: Siegel's
bodyguard, Mickey Cohen,
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knew his boss's
schedule for the evening
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but at the time of the killing,
he was not doing his job.
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Mickey Cohen even came
into the station and said,
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what happened, what happened?
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I was supposed to
be watching him.
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ROBERT STACK: And Jack Dragna?
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He may have ordered the
hit with the approval
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of Lansky and Luciano.
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He would not have dared
to do it on his own.
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He would have asked
permission from people he
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regarded in the New York area.
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It's a possibility,
because they were thinking
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of killing Siegel
anyway so, all right,
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let Jack Dragna handle it.
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ROBERT STACK: Today, none of
the key suspects in the Siegel
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murder are still alive
but Beverly Hills Police
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still hope that the
mafia code of silence
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may one day be broken.
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Murder has no
statute of limitations.
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So until the case is solved,
the case remains open.
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I'm sure there's people out
there that are descendants
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of people in the mafia or
people in the know that have
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information.
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I would love to have a
phone call from them.
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Perhaps there is someone,
just one person who might have
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that vital clue
that can crack this
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intriguing 50-year-old case.
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Perhaps it's you.
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Next, one police officer
dead and two wounded and the
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suspects are still on the run.
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MAN: (RADIO) 11 11, Cortez.
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That truck is 10-99
out of Durango.
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ROBERT STACK: May 29, 1998,
45-year-old police officer Dale
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Claxton followed a stolen water
truck out of the small town
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of Cortez, Colorado.
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Claxton was a relative
newcomer to the force,
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having become an officer
just three years earlier.
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I'll lay in behind
him, send me some backup.
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MAN: (RADIO) 10-4.
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ROBERT STACK: Suddenly the
water truck pulled over.
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Dale Claxton had no idea what
he was about to encounter.
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Dale never had a chance
to unbutton his seat belt,
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even go for the door.
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It was terrible.
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It was-- in 33 years of
being in this business,
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this is the most violent
thing I've ever seen.
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ROBERT STACK: Dale Claxton
left behind a wife, four
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children, and a grandchild.
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Look at me.
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Taking a picture
for your mother.
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Smile.
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[inaudible]
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There is no sense to this.
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The man who killed
Dale were armed for war
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and they were ready
to kill whoever
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and whatever got in the way.
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An assault, a sudden
attack in the foothills
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of the Rocky
Mountains, done with
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brutal military-like precision.
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Who were these people wielding
AK-47's and assault rifles?
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Police had no idea and the
killing of Dale Claxton
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was only the beginning.
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An APB was quickly put
out on the water truck.
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Deputy Jason Bishop was
told to search for it.
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What he didn't know
was the suspects
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had abandoned the water truck
and had stolen a pickup.
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I just happened to look
in my rear view mirror
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and I see this
yellow Ford pickup
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following me really close.
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That's when the shots
started coming in.
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I lost consciousness and fell
over into the passenger seat
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and wrecked my patrol car.
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MAN: (RADIO) Shots fired,
shots fired, officer down.
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25--
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ROBERT STACK: For the
next five minutes,
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law enforcement was under siege.
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State troopers and
local police were
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moving targets in the rampage.
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[inaudible]
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When they came around
the corner at me,
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it took me by surprise.
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They went off the
road to go by me.
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They are doing at least 60, 70.
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ROBERT STACK: Then
the yellow pickup
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was bearing down on Detective
Sergeant Todd Martin.
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I was just overwhelmed
with automatic gunfire.
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My left arm exploded.
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ROBERT STACK: Martin was
hit twice, once in the arm,
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once in the leg.
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Officer Jim Bob Paunce
saw him go down.
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I lost so much blood.
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They said I lost
the maximum amount
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anybody could lose without
getting a transfusion
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and keeping alive.
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So I think if it
wasn't for Jim Bob,
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I would have died out there.
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ROBERT STACK: Nine
law enforcement
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vehicles had been
riddled with 300
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high caliber assault rounds.
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Police and troopers
never had a chance
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to get off a single shot.
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One officer was dead and
two were hospitalized.
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It was as if they were
fighting a military battle.
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They were dressed in military
fatigues, full military gear,
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as if they were going to war.
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ROBERT STACK: An hour later, the
stolen pickup truck was found
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in a ravine 41 miles
northwest of Cortez
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on the Colorado, Utah border.
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It sparked the largest
manhunt in Colorado history.
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62 police agencies participated.
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Where we found two vehicles
is some of the rugged-est
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country in the state of Utah.
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Lots of Indian runs
in it, lots of mines,
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some deep canyons, and just
lots of places to hide.
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ROBERT STACK: Police identified
the suspects in the shooting.
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30-year-old Alan Monty
Pilon from nearby Dove
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Creek and Durango residents
Robert Mason and Jason McVean,
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both 26.
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Three were known to have
anti-government views.
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Pilon was also battling
the IRS over back taxes.
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Though they had no
criminal records,
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the men once tried to
join a militia group
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in the Four Corners
area but were thrown
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out for being too violent.
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More importantly, they
all were well trained
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in wilderness survival tactics.
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They had supplies stored
throughout the area.
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The same hills and
canyons used as a hideout
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a century ago by Butch
Cassidy's Hole in the Wall gang.
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MAN: They had been going to
that area for the last four
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or five years, had done a
lot of survivalist training
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in that area, had done a lot
of backpacking and living
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off the land in that area.
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It was like them going
to their backyard.
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ROBERT STACK: A week later,
the fugitives struck again.
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This time they shot and
wounded a deputy Sheriff
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in Bluff, Utah.
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SWAT teams quickly
surrounded the area.
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Few hours later, a body
of suspect Robert Mason
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was discovered dead from a
self-inflicted gunshot wound.
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Coming up, two
separate car crashes
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seemed to give the
accident victims
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astonishing psychic powers.
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An evening rain storm
in Southern California.
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Driver John Holland's life
was about to change forever.
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Holland was dazed but
not seriously injured.
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But the following day he
started to feel strange.
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I started noticing kind
of like electricity building
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up in my body, like a--
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I don't want to say a power--
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but it was more like a surge
of energy was building.
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I just felt that my body
had too much energy in it.
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That's the only way
I could describe it.
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And then I started
talking to people
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on the phone, some friends,
and as I was talking to them,
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I was realizing I started to
know things in their lives
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what was going to happen.
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ROBERT STACK: As a child,
Holland had been interested
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in psychic phenomena but it
wasn't until after his accident
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that he says he became
aware of his gift.
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It became obvious at his
job at a local hotel bar.
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He knew when it was a
stranger's birthday,
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he knew that a
coworker would have
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complications in childbirth.
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Holland says he was never wrong.
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JOHN HOLLAND: It would just come
out of my mouth, straight out,
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and I had to learn
how to stop that.
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So it was almost like my
customers was my practice.
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So I'm seeing three years for
the two of you, am I right?
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I'm picking up the number three.
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OK.
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[chatter]
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ROBERT STACK: Holland became
a sensation of the hotel.
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Business executives would come
to see him to ask if a big deal
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was going to happen.
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I see the merger
as being something
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that's going to be a success.
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ROBERT STACK: He
said his predictions
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were so uncanny that
coworkers became wary of him.
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Others felt his predictions were
simply clever manipulations.
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I know this is different
but, ma'am, wait.
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ROBERT STACK: Holland's
boss eventually
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asked him to stop
telling the future
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because he was
frightening the customers.
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I'm not out to
prove anything, OK?
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This is what happened to me,
this is what comes out of me,
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and this is people
come back and confirm.
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Car accidents and
other sudden events
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that shake up a person's
body and, of course,
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the inner body called the
aura, have, on occasion, caused
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that person to become psychic.
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There are a number
of cases on record.
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There's also a case of a
man who fell off a ladder
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and, as a result, became
a well-known psychic.
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Something happens to the inner
body of the person, as it were,
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and what was before an
ordinary human being, now
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becomes a psychic.
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It's perfectly natural.
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ROBERT STACK: For two
years after his accident,
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John Holland honed
his psychic skills.
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He began seeing clients,
people who wanted to know
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what the future held for them.
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Holland claims his powers
intensified and quickly
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reached a more profound level.
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He could communicate
with the dead.
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--he wants you to
know that he's fine.
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A client named Adriane
who came to see me
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and her dad passed away,
sadly, and basically
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she wanted to know where is he?
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What is he doing right now?
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So what happened, her dad came
and told me to tell her to look
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in a book on the bookshelf.
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He wants you to be at peace.
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He described the bookcase,
he described the location
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of a book, he said
and there's going
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to be something, a message
from your father in this book.
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And I was unclear if
he meant the book.
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It's-- he said, no,
there's a message in it,
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a piece of paper, a message
from your father that
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will let you know that he's OK.
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ROBERT STACK: It took two
weeks before Adriane got
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the courage to open the book.
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Inside was a poem written
by her father 28 years ago.
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It was called "Soar
into the Cosmic Blue",
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and it talks about
finding that there
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is a whole other
world to explore
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when you leave this world.
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And all that's out there
is open to you then.
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And it ends, "soar into the
universe of light and peace
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and fly to the rim of heaven."
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It's a baffling mystery.
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Can trauma spark unseen
forces that allow
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us to see things others cannot?
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Do we all possess the
ability to see the future?
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Could we, too, someday
become suddenly psychic?
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In [inaudible] New Jersey,
a mother and her son
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were badly injured in a
devastating car accident
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caused by a drunk driver.
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Elizabeth Joyce had shielded
her son Jeff from the impact.
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She suffered massive
injuries in the wreck.
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On the way to the
hospital, her heart had
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to be restarted three times.
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During the blackouts, she
was reunited with relatives
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who had died a year earlier.
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ELIZABETH JOYCE: On the left
with my stepson, on the right
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was my husband.
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They talked to me
with their mind.
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You have to go back,
you have to go back.
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OK, mom?
Mom.
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- Keep talking to her, man.
- Mom.
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Let her know where she is.
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ROBERT STACK: Elizabeth
survived the accident
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without any permanent
physical disabilities
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but she feared
neurological damage.
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I started having a tingling
sensation across my shoulders
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and up my neck and I
started having blackouts.
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ROBERT STACK:
Elizabeth began having
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a frightening recurring dream.
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ELIZABETH JOYCE: There
was an explosion.
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I a house, I saw a body,
I saw it go out the roof,
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I was aware of oil wells,
I was aware of a trailer
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park and a fence.
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It was so real to me.
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And in my head I would
hear, your aunt died.
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She's in Houston, Texas.
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ROBERT STACK: But Elizabeth's
aunt lived in Concord,
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New Hampshire, not Houston.
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After having the dream
every night for three weeks,
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she confided to a social
worker Brenda Hayes.
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Brenda was amazed.
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The home Elizabeth
was describing
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was her aunt's and
her aunt had died
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in an explosion a week earlier.
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There was a pipeline
explosion on her property
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and they haven't been
able to find her body
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or find any remains to
identify what happened to her.
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I started to explain to
her what the setup was.
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And she said, no, wait,
I'll draw you a picture.
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ROBERT STACK: Elizabeth drew an
exact rendition of the house.
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She then pointed to a section
of tall grass near an oil
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well and said Brenda's
aunt was there.
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Brenda called the
authorities in Houston.
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Within an hour, police had
found the body of her aunt.
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It would not be the last time
Elizabeth's newly-discovered
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powers would solve a mystery.
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00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:39,872
In 1992, Sidney J
Reso, the president
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00:25:39,972 --> 00:25:41,941
of the Exxon Corporation,
was kidnapped
448
00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:43,876
from in front of his home.
449
00:25:43,976 --> 00:25:46,846
Police had few clues
in the baffling crime.
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But Elizabeth Joyce had a
vision about the abduction
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and called police.
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I really don't give
much credence to psychics.
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I'm not a fan of
psychics and I've come
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across many, many psychics.
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But, in this particular
case with Elizabeth Joyce,
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I did find her to be
very, very accurate.
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ELIZABETH JOYCE:
In black and white
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I saw a blond haired
woman in a jogging suit
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running behind the car,
falling and screaming for help.
460
00:26:13,973 --> 00:26:18,678
I saw the man get out of the car
to go over and help this woman.
461
00:26:18,778 --> 00:26:21,380
I saw a man come
around in the bushes.
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I saw him grab this man that
had gotten out of the Cadillac
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and put a gun to his head and
force him into a white van.
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I knew that it was Reso.
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ROBERT STACK: Elizabeth said
she was in contact with the FBI
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on a daily basis for
six weeks giving them
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information about the case.
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ELIZABETH JOYCE: I said,
they're putting him in a trunk
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and they're taking
him off a main road
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and they're going to
dig a shallow grave.
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And he said, describe it to me.
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Oh, I said, it's
between two pine trees.
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It's in a narrow space
between two pine trees
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and it's off a main road.
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Either the Garden State Parkway
or the New Jersey Turnpike.
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ROBERT STACK: Though the FBI
will not talk about Elizabeth's
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00:27:02,088 --> 00:27:04,323
involvement, a
body of Sidney Reso
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was found exactly where
she said it would be.
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Sidney Reso's remains
were in a three foot
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deep sandy grave in the
depths of the pine barrens.
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ROBERT STACK: She
says her information
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also helped catch the killers.
483
00:27:17,837 --> 00:27:21,607
For Elizabeth, the
proof is in her results.
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I don't try to ever convince
anyone that there is such
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00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,313
a thing as psychic sensitivity.
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I let them find
it for themselves.
487
00:27:29,682 --> 00:27:32,618
I'm there to help others if
they are open to being helped.
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If I can reach one person that
it helps them change their life
489
00:27:36,923 --> 00:27:41,728
for the better and they know
things about themselves more
490
00:27:41,828 --> 00:27:44,563
or if they know that we all
go on, then I've done my job.
491
00:27:47,566 --> 00:27:49,001
John Holland and
Elizabeth Joyce
492
00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:52,671
say they are continuing to use
their powers to help others.
493
00:27:52,772 --> 00:27:55,742
Both have day jobs and say they
do psychic work on the side,
494
00:27:55,842 --> 00:27:58,845
charging nominal fees
for their services.
495
00:27:58,945 --> 00:28:01,781
Can John and Elizabeth
really see the future?
496
00:28:01,881 --> 00:28:03,850
Many believe they can.
497
00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:06,485
But in the unexplained
world of psychic phenomena,
498
00:28:06,585 --> 00:28:09,055
their stories remain
an unsolved mystery.
499
00:28:12,158 --> 00:28:16,062
Next, it was Marlys
Thomas's worst nightmare.
500
00:28:16,162 --> 00:28:18,164
Now the tragic loss
of her newborn infant
501
00:28:18,264 --> 00:28:20,733
has become an intriguing
unsolved mystery.
502
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,541
This is Marlys Thomas.
503
00:28:29,641 --> 00:28:33,245
She's 55 years old
and in failing health.
504
00:28:33,345 --> 00:28:36,816
More than 30 years ago, Marlys
thought she buried her infant
505
00:28:36,916 --> 00:28:38,918
daughter in this graveyard.
506
00:28:39,018 --> 00:28:41,187
Now she believes that
daughter is still alive.
507
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:50,963
June 12, 1962,
Worthington, Minnesota.
508
00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:54,801
Marlys was just 20 years old
and separated from her husband.
509
00:28:54,901 --> 00:28:57,036
She had moved to Minnesota
to be near her mother
510
00:28:57,136 --> 00:28:57,970
when the baby was born.
511
00:29:01,007 --> 00:29:03,843
Marlys was heavily sedated
during her difficult labor.
512
00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:11,383
The next thing Marlys remembers
is seeing her daughter Mary
513
00:29:11,483 --> 00:29:14,954
Agnes Grose for the first time.
514
00:29:15,054 --> 00:29:17,556
MARLYS THOMAS: I couldn't take
my eyes off of her little feet.
515
00:29:17,656 --> 00:29:20,059
They were moving
and I felt so happy
516
00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:21,894
and I just kept
watching her little feet
517
00:29:21,994 --> 00:29:24,696
and then I drifted
back to sleep.
518
00:29:24,797 --> 00:29:27,900
When I woke up, I looked
to see where my baby was
519
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,770
and I didn't see her and I asked
the nurse, where's my baby?
520
00:29:31,871 --> 00:29:34,206
And she said, the doctor
will be in to talk to you.
521
00:29:37,977 --> 00:29:40,379
Can I see my baby now?
522
00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:42,781
I'm sorry, Marlys,
but your baby died.
523
00:29:46,919 --> 00:29:49,889
How long did my baby live?
524
00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:51,657
One hour.
525
00:29:51,757 --> 00:29:52,825
I want to see my mother now.
526
00:29:52,925 --> 00:29:53,960
Oh no no, relax.
527
00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:55,594
We'll I'll take it to
your mother soon enough.
528
00:29:55,694 --> 00:29:57,529
Now, just-- just try to--
529
00:29:57,629 --> 00:29:58,998
Oh no.
530
00:29:59,098 --> 00:30:02,001
And that was just such
a shock to me, you know?
531
00:30:02,101 --> 00:30:03,870
It hurt so bad.
532
00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:06,172
And I could hardly
believe that, you know,
533
00:30:06,272 --> 00:30:08,540
because I had seen
her little feet move.
534
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,675
Is that my baby?
535
00:30:09,775 --> 00:30:10,576
Please.
536
00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:12,478
I have to see my baby.
537
00:30:12,578 --> 00:30:13,645
Please, no.
538
00:30:13,745 --> 00:30:16,048
ROBERT STACK: When Marlys
left the delivery room
539
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:19,952
she passed a bassinet that
was on his way to the morgue.
540
00:30:20,052 --> 00:30:23,289
And I must have only seen
my daughter maybe 10 seconds,
541
00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:27,393
15 at the most, and my
baby didn't look dead.
542
00:30:27,493 --> 00:30:30,396
My baby looked like
she was just sleeping.
543
00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:31,797
She wasn't purple.
544
00:30:31,898 --> 00:30:36,235
And she had dark hair.
545
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:39,471
She had lots of hair.
546
00:30:39,571 --> 00:30:41,407
ROBERT STACK: Marlys also
noticed that Mary Agnes
547
00:30:41,507 --> 00:30:43,409
had marks on her forehead.
548
00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:47,346
Marks left by the doctor's
forceps during the delivery.
549
00:30:47,446 --> 00:30:50,682
Marlys asked for an autopsy
but was told it was too late.
550
00:30:54,753 --> 00:30:56,889
While Marlys was
still in the hospital,
551
00:30:56,989 --> 00:30:59,558
her friend Judy Voges
visited the funeral home
552
00:30:59,658 --> 00:31:03,029
along with Marlys' mother.
553
00:31:03,129 --> 00:31:05,031
Judy claims that
the baby she saw
554
00:31:05,131 --> 00:31:09,768
looked different from the infant
that Marlys had described.
555
00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:13,305
I didn't see any
marks on her forehead.
556
00:31:13,405 --> 00:31:16,943
Her hair was light
brown, not dark brown.
557
00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:18,144
It was light brown.
558
00:31:18,244 --> 00:31:20,879
And not a whole lot of it.
559
00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:26,118
It looked kind of
downy like, I suppose.
560
00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:30,022
I'm sorry, I can't
allow you to photograph.
561
00:31:30,122 --> 00:31:32,891
ROBERT STACK: Stranger still,
when Marlys' mother tried
562
00:31:32,992 --> 00:31:35,627
to take a picture of the
baby, the funeral director
563
00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:36,728
would not allow it.
564
00:31:36,828 --> 00:31:37,964
This is for my daughter.
565
00:31:38,064 --> 00:31:39,365
I know.
566
00:31:39,465 --> 00:31:44,736
You can take one at the cemetery
after the casket been closed.
567
00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:46,872
ROBERT STACK: Later
that day, Marlys' mother
568
00:31:46,973 --> 00:31:52,111
did take these pictures of the
casket just before the burial.
569
00:31:52,211 --> 00:31:55,381
The day was marked by an
additional bizarre occurrence.
570
00:31:55,481 --> 00:31:57,916
Marlys' mother told
her that another family
571
00:31:58,017 --> 00:32:02,654
was at the grave site
mourning the death of a child.
572
00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:04,090
And they took it so hard.
573
00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:07,093
And they prayed and
prayed and they had tears.
574
00:32:07,193 --> 00:32:09,428
I could never figure out
who those people were,
575
00:32:09,528 --> 00:32:12,031
and my mother never could figure
out who those people were.
576
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,435
ROBERT STACK: A week
after the funeral,
577
00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:21,240
Marlys was well enough to
visit Mary Agnes' grave site.
578
00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:23,542
There was only one
grave there at that time
579
00:32:23,642 --> 00:32:27,179
and I took it so
hard, just so bad.
580
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:31,850
And from that day on, I
was out to that cemetery
581
00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:35,721
three, four times a week.
582
00:32:35,821 --> 00:32:37,123
ROBERT STACK: Marlys
accepted her baby's
583
00:32:37,223 --> 00:32:39,358
death as a natural occurrence.
584
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:43,295
But just three months later,
another unsettling development.
585
00:32:43,395 --> 00:32:46,132
Marlys received a mysterious
photograph in the mail.
586
00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:51,503
There was no letter,
no return address.
587
00:32:51,603 --> 00:32:55,074
Just a picture of a husband,
a wife and three children,
588
00:32:55,174 --> 00:32:56,408
one of them a baby girl.
589
00:32:59,378 --> 00:33:02,214
The baby looked
like my husband.
590
00:33:02,314 --> 00:33:03,682
And I didn't know these people.
591
00:33:03,782 --> 00:33:06,352
I've never seen these
people in my life.
592
00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:09,655
And I showed it to my family
and my family didn't know
593
00:33:09,755 --> 00:33:11,057
who those people were either.
594
00:33:11,157 --> 00:33:15,761
But they also thought the baby
looked a lot like my husband.
595
00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:17,629
ROBERT STACK: Strange indeed.
596
00:33:17,729 --> 00:33:20,066
But it be nearly three
decades before Marlys
597
00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,568
would come to realize the
significance of the picture.
598
00:33:27,906 --> 00:33:30,076
A year passed before
Marlys saved enough money
599
00:33:30,176 --> 00:33:32,078
to buy a headstone.
600
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:35,547
But inexplicably, cemetery
workers did not place a stone
601
00:33:35,647 --> 00:33:38,350
atop Mary Agnes' burial plot.
602
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:43,855
Instead, it was positioned
a few feet off to the side.
603
00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:46,525
Though she moved away,
Marlys periodically
604
00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,594
visited her daughter's grave.
605
00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:51,029
On one visit, she got
the shock of her life.
606
00:33:54,633 --> 00:33:57,903
In 1989, a headstone
for a different baby
607
00:33:58,003 --> 00:34:01,140
had been placed on Mary
Agnes' burial plot.
608
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,644
That baby's name was
Pamela Rae Dickey.
609
00:34:05,744 --> 00:34:09,481
Marlys immediately question
the funeral director.
610
00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:12,518
I says, well, this can't be.
611
00:34:12,618 --> 00:34:15,754
I says, I even bought a
stone and laid it out there.
612
00:34:15,854 --> 00:34:17,356
And then he said,
right away, he said,
613
00:34:17,456 --> 00:34:19,091
I often wondered
what that stone was
614
00:34:19,191 --> 00:34:21,160
doing out there because
there never was a grave.
615
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:24,196
And I said, well, I know they
laid it on the wrong spot
616
00:34:24,296 --> 00:34:25,597
at that time.
617
00:34:25,697 --> 00:34:30,502
Well, he says, no, he says, your
daughter's not buried out here.
618
00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:32,404
ROBERT STACK: Not buried here.
619
00:34:32,504 --> 00:34:34,773
Marlys was deeply disturbed.
620
00:34:34,873 --> 00:34:37,876
The old doubts and questions
came flooding back.
621
00:34:37,976 --> 00:34:39,578
She began researching
the details
622
00:34:39,678 --> 00:34:42,114
of her baby's supposed
death and burial
623
00:34:42,214 --> 00:34:46,452
and discovered an
odd coincidence.
624
00:34:46,552 --> 00:34:48,454
Pamela Dickey had
died only a few hours
625
00:34:48,554 --> 00:34:52,691
before Marlys' daughter on the
same day in the same hospital.
626
00:34:52,791 --> 00:34:56,328
And even more startling, Mary
Agnes and Pamela Dickey were
627
00:34:56,428 --> 00:35:00,399
also buried on the same day.
628
00:35:00,499 --> 00:35:03,402
There was not two
funerals out there that day,
629
00:35:03,502 --> 00:35:06,572
there was only one
funeral, one grave.
630
00:35:06,672 --> 00:35:09,575
And after the funeral, there
was only one heap of dirt.
631
00:35:09,675 --> 00:35:13,412
That's all there was out there.
632
00:35:13,512 --> 00:35:14,980
ROBERT STACK: There was more.
633
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,049
Marlys found Mary
Agnes' last name, Grose,
634
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:20,152
written in the upper
corner of one of Pamela
635
00:35:20,252 --> 00:35:22,721
Dickey's funeral papers.
636
00:35:22,821 --> 00:35:25,123
Even more puzzling,
hospital records
637
00:35:25,224 --> 00:35:27,659
said Mary Agnes was
healthy at birth,
638
00:35:27,759 --> 00:35:31,463
but the death certificate said
she had never drawn a breath.
639
00:35:31,563 --> 00:35:35,601
The birth certificate said
she was born as 6:23 PM.
640
00:35:35,701 --> 00:35:37,769
Incredibly, the
death certificate
641
00:35:37,869 --> 00:35:42,508
said she died three minutes
before she was born at 6:20.
642
00:35:42,608 --> 00:35:47,913
Every place that I go and
check this out the papers
643
00:35:48,013 --> 00:35:50,216
just--
644
00:35:50,316 --> 00:35:54,119
just like my daughter
had never died, you know?
645
00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:59,758
There's nothing that shows
me that my daughter died.
646
00:35:59,858 --> 00:36:01,427
ROBERT STACK: Marlys asked
Pamela Dickey's mother
647
00:36:01,527 --> 00:36:02,728
for help.
648
00:36:02,828 --> 00:36:04,496
But understandably,
Margaret Dickey
649
00:36:04,596 --> 00:36:07,533
preferred not to disturb
her daughter's grave.
650
00:36:07,633 --> 00:36:10,502
Nonetheless, Marlys had
to make certain Mary
651
00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:15,607
Agnes' body had not been
moved without her knowledge.
652
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:17,576
She had the grave that
lay beneath her daughter's
653
00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:19,545
tombstone exhumed.
654
00:36:19,645 --> 00:36:22,881
The remains were old and
difficult to identify
655
00:36:22,981 --> 00:36:26,852
but Marlys was right, DNA
testing revealed that the child
656
00:36:26,952 --> 00:36:29,755
buried there was not
Mary Agnes Grose,
657
00:36:29,855 --> 00:36:31,623
nor was it Pamela Rae Dickey.
658
00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:36,828
Marlys then showed the
pictures her mother had
659
00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:40,165
taken of Mary Agnes'
casket to Pamela's mother,
660
00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:42,701
Margaret Dickey.
661
00:36:42,801 --> 00:36:45,604
She looks at the picture,
she says, that's my baby.
662
00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:48,006
My husband bought that casket.
663
00:36:48,106 --> 00:36:49,975
And then I asked her,
I said, did anyone
664
00:36:50,075 --> 00:36:52,110
go to your baby's funeral?
665
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:56,448
She said yes, my
in-laws, and my husband.
666
00:36:56,548 --> 00:37:00,018
I believe that my
mother now went
667
00:37:00,118 --> 00:37:02,821
to Pamela Rae Dickey's funeral.
668
00:37:02,921 --> 00:37:05,657
That there's only one baby there
and that's Pamela Rae Dickey.
669
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,330
ROBERT STACK: If Marlys is right
and Pamela Dickey is buried
670
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:14,065
where she thought her own
daughter was laid to rest,
671
00:37:14,165 --> 00:37:15,534
what happened to Mary Agnes?
672
00:37:20,205 --> 00:37:23,609
Today Marlys has only
one possible explanation.
673
00:37:23,709 --> 00:37:26,678
She is convinced Mary
Agnes is still alive
674
00:37:26,778 --> 00:37:28,213
and that the baby
in the picture she
675
00:37:28,314 --> 00:37:33,319
received more than 30 years ago
was her first born daughter.
676
00:37:33,419 --> 00:37:35,754
What I think today
that picture was,
677
00:37:35,854 --> 00:37:40,359
was a family that adopted my
baby and they wanted to show me
678
00:37:40,459 --> 00:37:42,928
that my baby was in
a family, and that's
679
00:37:43,028 --> 00:37:44,896
why they sent me that picture.
680
00:37:47,666 --> 00:37:51,437
I was 20 years old,
I lived by myself
681
00:37:51,537 --> 00:37:54,840
and maybe they thought that I
couldn't take care of the baby,
682
00:37:54,940 --> 00:38:00,479
so they had another
family raise my baby.
683
00:38:00,579 --> 00:38:01,813
ROBERT STACK:
Marlys still suffers
684
00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:05,050
the agony of not knowing what
happened to her daughter.
685
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:09,521
If Mary Agnes is indeed
alive, she was born in 1962
686
00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:12,524
and would today be 35 years old.
687
00:38:12,624 --> 00:38:15,126
The birth took place at
Worthington Regional Hospital
688
00:38:15,226 --> 00:38:18,564
in Worthington, Minnesota.
689
00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:22,133
I want so bad to find
where my daughter is.
690
00:38:22,233 --> 00:38:27,038
I really got to know where
she is and I'll never give up.
691
00:38:27,138 --> 00:38:30,542
Never give up until I
find where she's at.
692
00:38:36,615 --> 00:38:40,185
ROBERT STACK: Next, the FBI
says Paulie Ragusa did it all,
693
00:38:40,285 --> 00:38:42,854
racketeering, robbery,
attempted murder.
694
00:38:42,954 --> 00:38:45,190
Is it any wonder they
want your help to track
695
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:46,758
down this fugitive wise guy?
696
00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:59,671
New York City, the Big Apple,
money, media, and fashion.
697
00:38:59,771 --> 00:39:01,773
But in the shadows
of the skyscrapers,
698
00:39:01,873 --> 00:39:05,877
another world, the underworld.
699
00:39:05,977 --> 00:39:08,780
Across the river from Manhattan
lies the borough of Queens.
700
00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:13,084
For generations,
these streets have
701
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:16,488
been home turf for
powerful mobsters
702
00:39:16,588 --> 00:39:19,758
and a fertile breeding ground
for young wannabe wise guys,
703
00:39:19,858 --> 00:39:23,662
like Paulie Ragusa
of Ridgewood, Queens.
704
00:39:23,762 --> 00:39:27,399
By all accounts, Paulie was
on the outside looking in.
705
00:39:27,499 --> 00:39:30,001
To get the attention of the
important crime families,
706
00:39:30,101 --> 00:39:33,639
Ragusa apparently felt he
had to make a statement.
707
00:39:33,739 --> 00:39:37,342
He made it guns and violence.
708
00:39:37,443 --> 00:39:40,045
Paul Ragusa was the leader I
think based on his propensity
709
00:39:40,145 --> 00:39:41,847
to engage in violence.
710
00:39:41,947 --> 00:39:43,782
Ragusa is known as a
fighter, as somebody
711
00:39:43,882 --> 00:39:49,655
that is not adverse to using
his hands and to using firearms.
712
00:39:49,755 --> 00:39:52,924
ROBERT STACK: Paulie Ragusa
allegedly did it all, robbery,
713
00:39:53,024 --> 00:39:56,027
assault, racketeering, arson.
714
00:39:56,127 --> 00:39:57,929
And he got away with
it because his victims
715
00:39:58,029 --> 00:40:00,198
refused to press charges.
716
00:40:00,298 --> 00:40:03,134
For Paulie winding up on
the FBI'S 10 Most Wanted
717
00:40:03,234 --> 00:40:05,871
list was probably inevitable.
718
00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:10,442
Some say he was literally
born into a life of crime.
719
00:40:10,542 --> 00:40:14,045
His father, Filipo,
was a major heroin
720
00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:18,717
trafficker who smuggled in many
kilos of heroin from Sicily.
721
00:40:18,817 --> 00:40:21,753
His older sister
Francesca was a member
722
00:40:21,853 --> 00:40:26,758
of his father's heroin ring.
723
00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:29,327
Her husband was also
a member of the ring
724
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:33,899
and so was another of
Paulie's brother in laws.
725
00:40:33,999 --> 00:40:35,567
ROBERT STACK: With his
father behind bars,
726
00:40:35,667 --> 00:40:37,636
Paulie set his sights
on being a big time
727
00:40:37,736 --> 00:40:40,405
crime boss with his own family.
728
00:40:40,506 --> 00:40:44,409
He organized the Giannini
crew, gang of aspiring mobsters
729
00:40:44,510 --> 00:40:46,545
who reportedly had their
headquarters in the heart
730
00:40:46,645 --> 00:40:50,816
of Queens at the Cafe Giannini.
731
00:40:50,916 --> 00:40:54,285
It's a place that the
young wannabes aspire
732
00:40:54,385 --> 00:40:57,623
to go to just to be closer to
the real tough guys, the made
733
00:40:57,723 --> 00:40:58,524
guys.
734
00:41:02,060 --> 00:41:04,395
ROBERT STACK: According to
police, Ragusa and his gang
735
00:41:04,496 --> 00:41:06,665
spent countless hours
sipping espresso
736
00:41:06,765 --> 00:41:08,366
and plotting the
crimes that they hoped
737
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:09,400
would put them on the map.
738
00:41:12,938 --> 00:41:15,306
Paul and his gang were
extremely dangerous.
739
00:41:15,406 --> 00:41:17,275
They just didn't have
any regard for life.
740
00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:20,245
If you got in their way,
they were going to shoot you.
741
00:41:20,345 --> 00:41:22,113
You know, it's
not a birthright.
742
00:41:22,213 --> 00:41:25,350
You have to be Italian
to get into the mob
743
00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:27,418
but you have to earn
your way into it.
744
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,888
You have to show that you're
a tough guy and willing
745
00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:33,491
to do just about
anything that's required
746
00:41:33,592 --> 00:41:36,562
to make money for the family.
747
00:41:36,662 --> 00:41:40,331
These guys, however,
went too far.
748
00:41:40,431 --> 00:41:43,835
ROBERT STACK: A perfect example,
Ragusa and his Giannini crew
749
00:41:43,935 --> 00:41:46,638
robbed the same bank in
their own neighborhood
750
00:41:46,738 --> 00:41:52,510
three times in a row,
netting more than $200,000.
751
00:41:52,611 --> 00:41:55,046
But for sheer audacity,
nothing much the events
752
00:41:55,146 --> 00:41:57,683
that took place in
Maspeth, Queens.
753
00:41:57,783 --> 00:42:01,319
Two security officers
carrying $20,000 in cash
754
00:42:01,419 --> 00:42:03,154
arrived at a bank to
make a night deposit.
755
00:42:05,824 --> 00:42:07,793
The driver get out
of the van, proceeded
756
00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:10,796
over the night deposit box.
757
00:42:10,896 --> 00:42:12,363
As he walked over to
the night deposit box,
758
00:42:12,463 --> 00:42:15,634
he realized there was a
van across the street.
759
00:42:15,734 --> 00:42:19,504
He turned and at that time,
three suspects exiting a van
760
00:42:19,605 --> 00:42:22,941
approached him and fired
at him in rapid succession.
761
00:42:23,041 --> 00:42:25,476
He returned fire,
emptying his revolver.
762
00:42:25,577 --> 00:42:27,879
He then fell to the ground
and crawled to safety.
763
00:42:27,979 --> 00:42:31,917
His partner, taking cover behind
a wall, also returned fire.
764
00:42:32,017 --> 00:42:33,785
A wild shootout ensued.
765
00:42:33,885 --> 00:42:36,354
You can still see some of the
results from that shootout.
766
00:42:40,525 --> 00:42:41,993
ROBERT STACK: The
shootout left one security
767
00:42:42,093 --> 00:42:43,995
guard seriously injured.
768
00:42:44,095 --> 00:42:46,598
Authorities later linked
Ragusa and the Giannini crew
769
00:42:46,698 --> 00:42:48,266
to the robbery.
770
00:42:48,366 --> 00:42:50,101
Investigators believe
the guards might
771
00:42:50,201 --> 00:42:55,506
have been executed if the gunmen
had not run out of ammunition.
772
00:42:55,607 --> 00:42:58,677
The main factor that makes
these types of individuals so
773
00:42:58,777 --> 00:43:01,813
dangerous is, one, their youth
and, two, their total disregard
774
00:43:01,913 --> 00:43:03,815
for human life.
775
00:43:03,915 --> 00:43:06,785
ROBERT STACK: By early
1986, a joint investigation
776
00:43:06,885 --> 00:43:09,420
by the FBI and the
New York City Police
777
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,157
led to a 32 count
indictment against Ragusa
778
00:43:12,257 --> 00:43:15,193
and 13 members of his gang.
779
00:43:15,293 --> 00:43:17,495
Ragusa did not wait
around to be arrested.
780
00:43:20,198 --> 00:43:21,867
If you want to be a
tough guy, you have to show
781
00:43:21,967 --> 00:43:24,302
you're not afraid of anything.
782
00:43:24,402 --> 00:43:26,672
But deep down ,
all of these guys
783
00:43:26,772 --> 00:43:29,708
have some kind of a fear that
they're going to be caught.
784
00:43:29,808 --> 00:43:34,012
It was this knowledge that
Paulie was going to get caught
785
00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:38,049
that forced him to run away.
786
00:43:38,149 --> 00:43:39,617
ROBERT STACK: Paulie
Ragusa has been on the run
787
00:43:39,718 --> 00:43:41,787
since June of 1996.
788
00:43:41,887 --> 00:43:44,022
He reportedly speaks
fluent Italian,
789
00:43:44,122 --> 00:43:45,791
frequents high-priced
prostitutes
790
00:43:45,891 --> 00:43:47,659
and is a heavy gambler.
791
00:43:47,759 --> 00:43:51,562
Ragusa is 27 years old, stands
five feet, 10 inches tall
792
00:43:51,663 --> 00:43:53,098
and weighs 170 pounds.
793
00:44:19,157 --> 00:44:21,760
Some mysteries may
never be explained
794
00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:26,464
but others may be solved with
a single phone call from you.
795
00:44:26,564 --> 00:44:30,401
Join me for our next edition
of "Unsolved Mysteries."
796
00:44:30,501 --> 00:44:34,039
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