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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:01,735 [music playing] 2 00:00:06,674 --> 00:00:09,910 Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries. 3 00:00:10,010 --> 00:00:15,083 Just before Christmas 1955, a newborn baby girl was abandoned 4 00:00:15,183 --> 00:00:17,351 in a New York City subway car. 5 00:00:17,451 --> 00:00:20,188 40 years later, Jean Martin still dreams 6 00:00:20,288 --> 00:00:22,056 of finding her birth mother. 7 00:00:22,156 --> 00:00:26,127 Perhaps someone watching will make her dream come true. 8 00:00:26,227 --> 00:00:28,462 If you think sea monsters are nothing more 9 00:00:28,562 --> 00:00:30,798 than fanciful legend, you've probably never 10 00:00:30,898 --> 00:00:33,467 visited Canada's Cadboro Bay. 11 00:00:33,567 --> 00:00:36,036 You've probably never heard the incredible eyewitness 12 00:00:36,137 --> 00:00:38,106 accounts of a mysterious creature 13 00:00:38,206 --> 00:00:41,242 known as Cadborosaurus. 14 00:00:41,342 --> 00:00:44,278 In North Carolina, a night of drinking and joyriding 15 00:00:44,378 --> 00:00:46,914 suddenly turns vicious and a young mother 16 00:00:47,014 --> 00:00:49,650 is thrown to her death. 17 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:51,319 Also a rare glimpse into the mind 18 00:00:51,419 --> 00:00:54,054 of a criminal, Franklin Floyd is serving 19 00:00:54,155 --> 00:00:55,989 52 years for kidnapping. 20 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:58,459 But his victim, 7-year-old Michael Hughes, 21 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:00,060 was never found. 22 00:01:00,161 --> 00:01:02,463 Incredibly Floyd claims the kidnapped boy 23 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:07,501 is alive and well, but refuses to say where he is. 24 00:01:07,601 --> 00:01:10,738 Stay with us, perhaps you hold the key. 25 00:01:10,838 --> 00:01:13,907 Perhaps your call can help solve one of tonight's Unsolved 26 00:01:14,007 --> 00:01:15,743 Mysteries. 27 00:01:15,843 --> 00:01:19,180 [theme music playing] 28 00:02:04,492 --> 00:02:08,196 For centuries, the stories have fascinated us. 29 00:02:08,296 --> 00:02:11,599 In Scotland it's the Loch Ness monster, 30 00:02:11,699 --> 00:02:14,802 in New York's Lake Champlain is Champ, 31 00:02:14,902 --> 00:02:17,938 there's also Ogopogo at Lake Okanagan in British Columbia, 32 00:02:18,038 --> 00:02:21,442 Canada, and finally in nearby Cadboro 33 00:02:21,542 --> 00:02:25,746 Bay is a legendary Caddy. 34 00:02:25,846 --> 00:02:28,582 The thing I notice most about it was its eyes. 35 00:02:28,682 --> 00:02:32,152 They were big and they were serpent like. 36 00:02:32,253 --> 00:02:34,955 The odor from it was just incredible. 37 00:02:35,055 --> 00:02:38,359 It permeated, it made you want to vomit. 38 00:02:38,459 --> 00:02:42,129 It went down and a hump came up, and then it went down, 39 00:02:42,230 --> 00:02:44,898 and another one came up, and it was like it was moving. 40 00:02:48,436 --> 00:02:51,805 They call it Cadborosaurus, Caddy for short, 41 00:02:51,905 --> 00:02:54,542 the sea monster of Cadboro Bay. 42 00:02:54,642 --> 00:02:56,610 Many people believe this is the carcass 43 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:58,546 of just such a creature. 44 00:02:58,646 --> 00:03:01,048 Computer enhancement gives us an idea of what it might 45 00:03:01,148 --> 00:03:03,150 have looked like when alive. 46 00:03:03,251 --> 00:03:06,186 Like the biblical Jonah, it came from the belly of a whale. 47 00:03:12,226 --> 00:03:16,397 In 1937, there was a whaling station in the north 48 00:03:16,497 --> 00:03:17,998 part of British Columbia. 49 00:03:18,098 --> 00:03:21,101 And one of the whale boats harpooned 50 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:24,538 this big sperm whale about six hours 51 00:03:24,638 --> 00:03:26,640 run from the whaling station. 52 00:03:26,740 --> 00:03:31,779 Towed it back, and the flensers got to it fairly quickly. 53 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:33,881 Flensers are the workers who butcher the whales 54 00:03:33,981 --> 00:03:36,016 once they are brought to shore. 55 00:03:36,116 --> 00:03:39,787 Amazingly a sperm whale has three enormous stomachs. 56 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:44,692 Inside one of them the flensers made an astonishing find. 57 00:03:44,792 --> 00:03:47,895 Instead of ringing out a big ten foot shark or a giant squid 58 00:03:47,995 --> 00:03:51,465 or a rag fish or something like that, 59 00:03:51,565 --> 00:03:54,502 they came across this incredible snake like thing. 60 00:03:54,602 --> 00:03:56,804 None of them had ever seen before in years 61 00:03:56,904 --> 00:03:58,238 of whaling and flensing. 62 00:03:58,339 --> 00:04:01,309 They knew it was something different. 63 00:04:01,409 --> 00:04:04,578 The whalers took this photograph that very day. 64 00:04:04,678 --> 00:04:07,448 James Wakelen, then a 24-year-old blacksmith's 65 00:04:07,548 --> 00:04:10,418 assistant, is the only witness still alive who saw 66 00:04:10,518 --> 00:04:13,987 the creature with his own eyes. 67 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:14,888 I don't know. 68 00:04:14,988 --> 00:04:17,558 I got no idea what it is. 69 00:04:17,658 --> 00:04:18,459 I haven't got a clue. 70 00:04:18,559 --> 00:04:21,862 Never seen anything like it. 71 00:04:21,962 --> 00:04:23,230 And I guess somebody thought oh, that's 72 00:04:23,331 --> 00:04:24,698 a queer looking affair there. 73 00:04:24,798 --> 00:04:27,735 We better get the manager or go and see about it. 74 00:04:27,835 --> 00:04:31,339 And he got it brought down, and he took the pictures. 75 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:34,775 Laid out, the creature measured some 12 feet long. 76 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:36,777 It had a head shaped like a horse or a camel 77 00:04:36,877 --> 00:04:40,314 and a thin, snake-like body approximately 16 inches 78 00:04:40,414 --> 00:04:43,617 in circumference. 79 00:04:43,717 --> 00:04:46,887 Enormous detail is visible, especially in the tail region, 80 00:04:46,987 --> 00:04:50,691 which shows us that it has a pair of hind flippers 81 00:04:50,791 --> 00:04:54,127 that were webbed together with the tail 82 00:04:54,227 --> 00:04:56,697 to form this whale like fluke, which 83 00:04:56,797 --> 00:05:01,702 undoubtedly provided the main driving force for this animal. 84 00:05:01,802 --> 00:05:03,337 The whalers sent part of the specimen 85 00:05:03,437 --> 00:05:07,007 to the Provincial Museum in Victoria, British Columbia. 86 00:05:07,107 --> 00:05:09,510 There the museum director Francis Kermode 87 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:12,846 dismissed it as a fetus of a baleen whale and tossed it out. 88 00:05:15,549 --> 00:05:18,519 Even to untrained eyes a baleen whale fetus 89 00:05:18,619 --> 00:05:21,021 bears little resemblance to the carcass examined 90 00:05:21,121 --> 00:05:23,957 by the museum director. 91 00:05:24,057 --> 00:05:26,860 If he just stopped and thought would these men 92 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,996 send down a baleen whale? 93 00:05:29,096 --> 00:05:31,899 They dissected hundreds of these things out of dead whale 94 00:05:31,999 --> 00:05:34,067 uteruses every week. 95 00:05:34,167 --> 00:05:36,537 They knew what a fetal baleen whale, 96 00:05:36,637 --> 00:05:39,973 so that was really not complimentary 97 00:05:40,073 --> 00:05:41,141 to these professional whalers. 98 00:05:43,877 --> 00:05:47,381 If the whalers weren't wrong, maybe the creature was a fake. 99 00:05:47,481 --> 00:05:50,283 One of the most famous photos of the Loch Ness monster 100 00:05:50,384 --> 00:05:53,987 eventually proved to be a hoax. 101 00:05:54,087 --> 00:05:57,925 Skeptics claim the Cadborosaurus photo is no different. 102 00:05:58,025 --> 00:06:00,628 But that hardly explains all the people in the 60 years 103 00:06:00,728 --> 00:06:03,931 since who insist they've seen a Caddy like sea monster. 104 00:06:07,535 --> 00:06:12,406 In 1968, William Haglund was sailing in a remote cove. 105 00:06:12,506 --> 00:06:15,709 As evening fell, he and his sons netted what he now believes 106 00:06:15,809 --> 00:06:18,679 was a baby Cadborosaurus. 107 00:06:18,779 --> 00:06:20,881 It look like at the little garter snake, 108 00:06:20,981 --> 00:06:22,816 but it was a little bit more husky than that. 109 00:06:22,916 --> 00:06:26,286 But it wasn't much longer about 16 inches long, 110 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:28,589 maybe the thickness of my thumb, but it 111 00:06:28,689 --> 00:06:33,727 had little shoulders with little flippers on its shoulders, 112 00:06:33,827 --> 00:06:37,831 and a bit of a neck not much, but and a head on it with two 113 00:06:37,931 --> 00:06:41,435 great brown eyes looking at us. 114 00:06:41,535 --> 00:06:44,037 Haglund sketched the animal in detail. 115 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:47,541 He decided to take the oddity to the nearest biology station, 116 00:06:47,641 --> 00:06:51,545 but he was at least a day's sail away. 117 00:06:51,645 --> 00:06:52,846 Through the evening, I could hear 118 00:06:52,946 --> 00:06:55,048 this little thing making quite a fuss in the bucket 119 00:06:55,148 --> 00:06:57,050 that we'd put it into. 120 00:06:57,150 --> 00:06:58,919 But when I shine the light down at him, 121 00:06:59,019 --> 00:07:00,888 he'd just opened his mouth and hissed at me. 122 00:07:00,988 --> 00:07:03,657 And you could see that he was quite terrified and quite 123 00:07:03,757 --> 00:07:05,325 put out with all of this. 124 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:08,929 I felt that maybe if we tried to held him over another night 125 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:10,531 that he might perish. 126 00:07:10,631 --> 00:07:13,801 I'd just did a great deal of soul searching 127 00:07:13,901 --> 00:07:16,637 and decided to put it back in the water and leave it be. 128 00:07:19,239 --> 00:07:21,609 It was another opportunity lost. 129 00:07:21,709 --> 00:07:23,577 For the second time what was thought to be 130 00:07:23,677 --> 00:07:27,615 a Caddy was thrown back in the bay. 131 00:07:27,715 --> 00:07:30,050 In consultation with a paleontologist 132 00:07:30,150 --> 00:07:32,352 we applied computer animation techniques 133 00:07:32,452 --> 00:07:36,524 to one of the original Cadborosaurus photographs. 134 00:07:36,624 --> 00:07:40,293 The skeletal structure is similar to that of a snake. 135 00:07:40,393 --> 00:07:42,362 A Caddy seven meters long would probably 136 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:47,234 have at least 360 vertebra that would give the creature 137 00:07:47,334 --> 00:07:50,704 enough flexibility to form the signature hoops so frequently 138 00:07:50,804 --> 00:07:54,341 mentioned by eyewitnesses. 139 00:07:54,441 --> 00:07:57,778 Unlike a snake, which can only wiggle from side to side, 140 00:07:57,878 --> 00:08:00,080 a Cadborosaurus could propel hisself forward 141 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:02,950 with his tail fluke and steer with his forefin something 142 00:08:03,050 --> 00:08:03,817 like a sea lion. 143 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,957 If this is truly an accurate depiction of a Caddy, 144 00:08:10,057 --> 00:08:14,361 imagine seeing one in the wild. 145 00:08:14,461 --> 00:08:16,530 That's what a pilot spotted while flying a sea 146 00:08:16,630 --> 00:08:19,833 plane over Cadboro Bay, two college boys 147 00:08:19,933 --> 00:08:23,503 saw just 20 yards from shore, and a homemaker 148 00:08:23,604 --> 00:08:28,041 surprised the sea monster right on the beach. 149 00:08:28,141 --> 00:08:30,978 I was walking my dog, Lady, and as we were coming 150 00:08:31,078 --> 00:08:33,647 down the path to the beach, she was 151 00:08:33,747 --> 00:08:34,848 struggling to get away from me. 152 00:08:34,948 --> 00:08:36,650 She just didn't want to go to the beach. 153 00:08:36,750 --> 00:08:38,886 Come on, Lady. 154 00:08:38,986 --> 00:08:41,188 Finally I pulled her and pulled her and she got closer. 155 00:08:41,288 --> 00:08:45,859 And as I turned to look down, I saw this face looking at me. 156 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:48,862 And it was shaped like a horse face, 157 00:08:48,962 --> 00:08:51,999 and there were eyes that were like a snake. 158 00:08:52,099 --> 00:08:54,467 And as I looked at it, it looked at me, 159 00:08:54,568 --> 00:08:56,536 and then it dropped its head below the cliff. 160 00:08:59,306 --> 00:09:01,742 It sort of took my breath away when I saw it. 161 00:09:01,842 --> 00:09:06,680 And I just was thinking to myself did I really 162 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:08,148 see what I thought I saw? 163 00:09:08,248 --> 00:09:09,416 You know, what is it? 164 00:09:09,516 --> 00:09:10,618 I heard a sound and thought it was 165 00:09:10,718 --> 00:09:11,952 probably a whale or something. 166 00:09:12,052 --> 00:09:13,386 Looked out, didn't see much. 167 00:09:13,486 --> 00:09:16,423 And heard it again and saw like a strange head 168 00:09:16,523 --> 00:09:21,094 out of the water about 50, 60 feet away. 169 00:09:21,194 --> 00:09:26,767 It had the definite snout with a big large head, really rocky 170 00:09:26,867 --> 00:09:31,504 looking, really greeny-black color, almost 171 00:09:31,605 --> 00:09:33,841 like a garbage bag color. 172 00:09:33,941 --> 00:09:37,745 It was a very odd looking thing. 173 00:09:37,845 --> 00:09:40,047 It was hoop like creature. 174 00:09:40,147 --> 00:09:43,851 It had two vertical hoops. 175 00:09:43,951 --> 00:09:46,119 As we were on approach and landing 176 00:09:46,219 --> 00:09:49,589 we could see that it was moving very quickly through the water. 177 00:09:49,690 --> 00:09:52,726 I would estimate to be about 40 miles per hour. 178 00:09:52,826 --> 00:09:55,663 And we could actually see through the two hoops. 179 00:09:55,763 --> 00:09:59,132 We could see what was on the other side of the hoops, 180 00:09:59,232 --> 00:10:00,701 so it was very strange. 181 00:10:04,672 --> 00:10:06,874 It was the most unique thing I've ever 182 00:10:06,974 --> 00:10:09,142 seen in the waters around here. 183 00:10:09,242 --> 00:10:12,079 I've seen lots of different things, 184 00:10:12,179 --> 00:10:13,781 but I've never seen something like that. 185 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:21,554 It's our view that the animal does exist, because 186 00:10:21,655 --> 00:10:24,958 of the total mass of evidence. 187 00:10:25,058 --> 00:10:28,762 If these people who act independently over a century 188 00:10:28,862 --> 00:10:33,100 time and 3,000 miles of coastline were in collusion 189 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,469 it would be the biggest con game in the history of science. 190 00:10:36,569 --> 00:10:38,238 There is no way that happened. 191 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:40,207 These people are totally unknown to each other. 192 00:10:43,043 --> 00:10:47,347 Skeptics abound, outnumbered perhaps only by believers. 193 00:10:47,447 --> 00:10:50,583 Doubters claim Caddy eyewitnesses are mistaken what 194 00:10:50,684 --> 00:10:52,686 they really saw were humpback whales, 195 00:10:52,786 --> 00:10:56,690 elephants seals, basking sharks, or perhaps a herd of sea lions. 196 00:10:59,459 --> 00:11:01,729 Hopefully the next person to get hold of a Caddy 197 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:05,999 will manage to resist the urge to dump it back in the bay. 198 00:11:06,099 --> 00:11:08,936 Perhaps then this mystery will finally be solved. 199 00:11:13,707 --> 00:11:15,809 We'll be back in a moment with an urgent appeal 200 00:11:15,909 --> 00:11:18,178 from the authorities in North Carolina. 201 00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:20,513 They need your help to track down an accused killer. 202 00:11:27,487 --> 00:11:30,824 [theme music] 203 00:11:37,297 --> 00:11:39,332 Most teenagers would do anything to avoid 204 00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:41,234 being with their parents. 205 00:11:41,334 --> 00:11:43,804 But to 17-year-old April Hart nothing 206 00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:45,372 would be more precious than spending 207 00:11:45,472 --> 00:11:47,975 a few moments with her mother savagely 208 00:11:48,075 --> 00:11:49,509 murdered when April was six. 209 00:11:53,180 --> 00:11:54,681 APRIL HART: I just wante [inaudible] 210 00:11:54,782 --> 00:11:58,986 so that she will be there beside me, to play with me. 211 00:11:59,086 --> 00:12:02,022 And I'll have her there, knowing she's there were me, 212 00:12:02,122 --> 00:12:03,390 and not gone like she is now. 213 00:12:07,727 --> 00:12:08,829 ROBERT STACK: April's mother Sherry 214 00:12:08,929 --> 00:12:13,466 was last seen alive on a January night in 1984. 215 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:16,436 The 24-year-old divorcee was supposed to meet a date 216 00:12:16,536 --> 00:12:17,971 outside a local restaurant. 217 00:12:20,774 --> 00:12:24,477 Sherry Hart did not come home that night or the next. 218 00:12:24,577 --> 00:12:28,215 Police located several friends who had seen her that evening. 219 00:12:28,315 --> 00:12:30,784 However, they found no evidence of foul play, 220 00:12:30,884 --> 00:12:34,254 no explanation for Sherry's sudden disappearance. 221 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:36,256 For months afterwards, April heard 222 00:12:36,356 --> 00:12:41,094 rumors that her mother had run off to Florida with a lover. 223 00:12:41,194 --> 00:12:42,529 APRIL HART: I just thought she hated 224 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:46,199 me and didn't want to come back because she had me. 225 00:12:46,299 --> 00:12:49,136 And she didn't feel that she was responsible for me. 226 00:12:49,236 --> 00:12:52,172 And I just didn't think she loved me anymore. 227 00:12:52,272 --> 00:12:54,641 There! 228 00:12:54,741 --> 00:12:55,675 What do you got, Don? 229 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:57,477 Female. 230 00:12:57,577 --> 00:12:58,979 She's-- she's been here a while. 231 00:12:59,079 --> 00:12:59,847 Yeah. 232 00:12:59,947 --> 00:13:01,982 She's pretty well decomposed. 233 00:13:02,082 --> 00:13:04,918 ROBERT STACK: The truth was worse, far worse. 234 00:13:05,018 --> 00:13:08,421 11 months after Sherry vanished, an unrelated investigation led 235 00:13:08,521 --> 00:13:11,458 police down a 2000 foot cliff. 236 00:13:11,558 --> 00:13:14,895 Locals call it the jumping off place. 237 00:13:14,995 --> 00:13:16,663 It was there that authorities found 238 00:13:16,763 --> 00:13:18,531 the body of Sherry Lyall Hart. 239 00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:25,873 Investigators immediately reopened the case. 240 00:13:25,973 --> 00:13:26,806 Sherry? 241 00:13:26,907 --> 00:13:27,707 Hi, guys. 242 00:13:27,807 --> 00:13:29,676 How you doing? 243 00:13:29,776 --> 00:13:31,979 Well, I was supposed to have a date about a half hour ago, 244 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:33,313 but-- 245 00:13:33,413 --> 00:13:34,982 ROBERT STACK: They located a witness who has seen Sherry 246 00:13:35,082 --> 00:13:36,449 on the night she vanished with two 247 00:13:36,549 --> 00:13:40,487 high school friends, Jeffrey Burgess and Richard Bare. 248 00:13:40,587 --> 00:13:42,022 Where were you going? 249 00:13:42,122 --> 00:13:43,924 Nowhere in particular, just out cruising around. 250 00:13:44,024 --> 00:13:45,292 Cruising around. 251 00:13:45,392 --> 00:13:46,426 ROBERT STACK: Police interrogated 252 00:13:46,526 --> 00:13:48,461 Bare and Burgess separately. 253 00:13:48,561 --> 00:13:51,865 Richard Bare's brother had once dated Sherry Hart. 254 00:13:51,965 --> 00:13:54,935 What time would that have been? 255 00:13:55,035 --> 00:13:56,003 9. 256 00:13:56,103 --> 00:13:57,604 9 o'clock. 257 00:13:57,704 --> 00:13:59,039 Are you sure about that? 258 00:13:59,139 --> 00:14:00,473 No. I'm not sure. 259 00:14:00,573 --> 00:14:01,508 It could have been 9:05. 260 00:14:01,608 --> 00:14:03,210 It could have been 8:55. 261 00:14:03,310 --> 00:14:04,677 I don't-- I don't keep a watch on me 262 00:14:04,777 --> 00:14:07,180 and check in every minute, OK? 263 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,050 We have witnesses that saw you together after 9:00. 264 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:12,752 And Burgess gave us a different time as well. 265 00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:14,054 So are you sure it was 9 o'clock? 266 00:14:14,154 --> 00:14:15,088 Look. Look. 267 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:16,356 Let me tell you something. 268 00:14:16,456 --> 00:14:17,257 It was dark. 269 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:18,158 It was cold. 270 00:14:18,258 --> 00:14:19,826 We dropped her off by her car. 271 00:14:19,927 --> 00:14:21,528 I don't know what time it was. 272 00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:22,662 But the stores were open? 273 00:14:22,762 --> 00:14:23,596 They were open. 274 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:24,932 OK. 275 00:14:25,032 --> 00:14:27,067 ROBERT STACK: Richard Bare volunteered little information, 276 00:14:27,167 --> 00:14:30,770 so detectives pushed forward with other leads. 277 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:35,042 We interviewed a great deal of people. 278 00:14:35,142 --> 00:14:36,309 Many people. 279 00:14:36,409 --> 00:14:38,711 And as a result of those interviews, 280 00:14:38,811 --> 00:14:44,851 we feel that we have developed a scenario as to what 281 00:14:44,952 --> 00:14:48,155 occurred that evening. 282 00:14:48,255 --> 00:14:51,124 [inaudible] you guys, I don't know what for. 283 00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:53,093 So where's this place we're going, anyway? 284 00:14:53,193 --> 00:14:54,627 I figured we'd go cruising first. 285 00:14:54,727 --> 00:14:57,097 Uh, a couple buddies of mine are down there. 286 00:14:57,197 --> 00:14:59,032 Meet up with them, and then maybe go to the Twilight club 287 00:14:59,132 --> 00:15:00,067 afterwards. 288 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:01,434 Sounds good. 289 00:15:01,534 --> 00:15:05,272 At some point in time, this riding around 290 00:15:05,372 --> 00:15:09,176 led them to an area, possibly in the vicinity 291 00:15:09,276 --> 00:15:12,112 of a nightclub or a party. 292 00:15:12,212 --> 00:15:16,549 And during this riding around, Sherry Hart 293 00:15:16,649 --> 00:15:18,785 asked to make a rest stop. 294 00:15:21,888 --> 00:15:24,157 ROBERT STACK: Authorities allege that Sherry and the two men 295 00:15:24,257 --> 00:15:26,626 pulled off the highway about one quarter of a mile 296 00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:30,230 from the jumping off place. 297 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:31,131 You know what, Jeff? 298 00:15:31,231 --> 00:15:32,565 What's that? 299 00:15:32,665 --> 00:15:34,267 I think the woods are a dangerous place 300 00:15:34,367 --> 00:15:35,502 for a little girl. 301 00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:38,771 I think you might be right. 302 00:15:38,871 --> 00:15:40,240 [laughs] 303 00:15:45,812 --> 00:15:46,713 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 304 00:15:46,813 --> 00:15:47,780 Sherry, Sherry. 305 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,682 I thought I said take your time. - Come on. 306 00:15:49,782 --> 00:15:50,450 Let's go to the car. - Shh. 307 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:51,884 Shh. - No. 308 00:15:51,985 --> 00:15:52,885 Stop. - Give me a kiss. 309 00:15:52,986 --> 00:15:53,820 No, Richard. 310 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,787 Stop it! 311 00:15:54,887 --> 00:15:56,256 Richard, stop! 312 00:15:56,356 --> 00:15:57,290 Leave me alone! 313 00:15:57,390 --> 00:15:58,191 Don't! 314 00:15:58,291 --> 00:15:59,159 Richard, stop! 315 00:15:59,259 --> 00:16:01,594 [inaudible] 316 00:16:01,694 --> 00:16:03,063 Stop it! 317 00:16:03,163 --> 00:16:06,466 Stop it now! 318 00:16:06,566 --> 00:16:07,934 [sobbing] 319 00:16:09,002 --> 00:16:09,869 Help me! 320 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:12,405 Jeff, please help me! 321 00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:14,407 ROBERT STACK: That night, Richard Bare was 322 00:16:14,507 --> 00:16:15,775 apparently carrying a handgun. 323 00:16:26,953 --> 00:16:27,920 What are you doing? 324 00:16:28,021 --> 00:16:29,422 Shut up and stay in the car, all right? 325 00:16:29,522 --> 00:16:31,824 [crying] You're hurting me. 326 00:16:31,924 --> 00:16:32,725 Sh! 327 00:16:42,102 --> 00:16:42,902 [sobbing] 328 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:44,071 No! 329 00:16:44,171 --> 00:16:45,472 No! 330 00:16:45,572 --> 00:16:46,839 No! 331 00:16:46,939 --> 00:16:47,974 Stop it, Richard, please. 332 00:16:48,075 --> 00:16:49,576 You're hurting me! 333 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:50,477 Bye. 334 00:16:50,577 --> 00:16:51,978 [screams] 335 00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:00,953 Turn to your left. 336 00:17:01,054 --> 00:17:02,689 ROBERT STACK: Richard Bare and Jeffrey Burgess 337 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:05,525 were charged with the murder of Sherry Hart. 338 00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:07,094 Turn to your right. 339 00:17:07,194 --> 00:17:08,395 ROBERT STACK: Conviction could have led 340 00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:09,762 straight to the gas chamber. 341 00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:16,636 However, four months after his arrest, 342 00:17:16,736 --> 00:17:19,972 Richard Bare managed to escape from the county jail. 343 00:17:20,073 --> 00:17:21,841 Jeffrey Burgess was released on bail 344 00:17:21,941 --> 00:17:25,278 pending his friend's recapture. 345 00:17:25,378 --> 00:17:30,517 More than 10 years later, the trial has yet to begin. 346 00:17:30,617 --> 00:17:32,919 We let those people down. 347 00:17:33,019 --> 00:17:34,987 We let the victim down. 348 00:17:35,088 --> 00:17:38,091 And we'd certainly like to have an opportunity to get him back, 349 00:17:38,191 --> 00:17:40,560 to let them know that we want to see-- 350 00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:43,763 we want to see justice done. 351 00:17:43,863 --> 00:17:45,532 This is probably as brutal a crime 352 00:17:45,632 --> 00:17:51,438 as you will ever encounter because of the horror, 353 00:17:51,538 --> 00:17:54,674 the fear, the fright that the victim 354 00:17:54,774 --> 00:18:02,549 had to feel for several minutes before she 355 00:18:02,649 --> 00:18:03,683 went over that cliff. 356 00:18:03,783 --> 00:18:05,785 Because she would have, in my opinion, 357 00:18:05,885 --> 00:18:09,856 known enough to know where she was. 358 00:18:16,062 --> 00:18:18,931 BETTY LYALL: She was an outgoing person. 359 00:18:19,031 --> 00:18:21,033 She liked people. 360 00:18:21,134 --> 00:18:24,271 She liked to have fun. 361 00:18:24,371 --> 00:18:29,776 She was a mother that loved her daughter very much. 362 00:18:29,876 --> 00:18:32,512 She thought more of April than anybody or anything. 363 00:18:36,816 --> 00:18:39,786 APRIL HART: It won't never get behind me. 364 00:18:39,886 --> 00:18:41,588 I can't take looking at her grave, 365 00:18:41,688 --> 00:18:43,756 knowing she's down there. 366 00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:47,627 I want her to be here with me, so I can just give her a hug 367 00:18:47,727 --> 00:18:50,663 and just have her in my life again. 368 00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:19,426 Recently we profiled a pair of cunning criminals, 369 00:19:19,526 --> 00:19:20,927 two women who, in some circles, had 370 00:19:21,027 --> 00:19:23,363 achieved near folk hero status. 371 00:19:23,463 --> 00:19:26,032 The police knew them as a real life Thelma and Louise. 372 00:19:29,469 --> 00:19:31,137 If you passed them on the road, you 373 00:19:31,238 --> 00:19:34,207 would think they were just best friends out for a joyride. 374 00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:37,777 But over a three month period in early 1995, 375 00:19:37,877 --> 00:19:39,979 Rose Turford and Carolyn Stevens stole 376 00:19:40,079 --> 00:19:42,882 more than a quarter of a million dollars from at least 10 men. 377 00:19:47,454 --> 00:19:50,223 Their MO was simple, yet devious. 378 00:19:50,323 --> 00:19:53,059 Rose and Carolyn lured their victims to hotel rooms 379 00:19:53,159 --> 00:19:55,161 with the promise of an adventurous date. 380 00:19:57,930 --> 00:20:01,133 Rose and Carolyn from the onset 381 00:20:01,234 --> 00:20:04,471 wanted to be the real life Thelma and Louise. 382 00:20:04,571 --> 00:20:08,708 They wanted to experience that thrill and the spontaneity. 383 00:20:08,808 --> 00:20:10,743 And only thing is, I don't believe 384 00:20:10,843 --> 00:20:12,044 they ever considered what they were 385 00:20:12,144 --> 00:20:15,415 going to do to their families. 386 00:20:15,515 --> 00:20:18,718 ROBERT STACK: In March of 1995, Rose and Carolyn were finally 387 00:20:18,818 --> 00:20:20,987 arrested in Houston, Texas. 388 00:20:21,087 --> 00:20:23,290 Their families put up almost everything they owned 389 00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:26,058 to post the $500,000 bail. 390 00:20:26,158 --> 00:20:28,561 The Thelma and Louise bandits were released, 391 00:20:28,661 --> 00:20:30,263 and promptly disappeared. 392 00:20:33,132 --> 00:20:35,402 As it turned out, our broadcast was a catalyst 393 00:20:35,502 --> 00:20:37,437 for a full-scale media blitz aimed 394 00:20:37,537 --> 00:20:39,572 at tracking down the two women. 395 00:20:39,672 --> 00:20:43,343 Here's Keely Shaye Smith with the details. 396 00:20:43,443 --> 00:20:45,478 Well, the story of the Thelma and Louise bandits 397 00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:46,813 appeared everywhere-- 398 00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:49,716 newspapers, magazines, and on television-- 399 00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:52,251 but it was a t-shirt just like this one which 400 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:54,687 led to their capture in Toronto, Canada, 401 00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:58,224 less than five months after they had vanished. 402 00:20:58,325 --> 00:21:02,529 The gentleman who gave us the tip saw the pictures 403 00:21:02,629 --> 00:21:04,731 in the "Maclean's" magazine of me 404 00:21:04,831 --> 00:21:06,766 holding the t-shirt up and called 405 00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:08,935 the number on the t-shirt. 406 00:21:09,035 --> 00:21:10,637 KEELY SHAYE SMITH: The tipster knew the whereabouts 407 00:21:10,737 --> 00:21:11,904 of Rose Turford. 408 00:21:12,004 --> 00:21:14,974 She was working at a telemarketing firm in Toronto. 409 00:21:15,074 --> 00:21:19,579 Within 24 hours, both of the fugitives were in custody. 410 00:21:19,679 --> 00:21:23,383 Probably the weirdest thing in this whole chase 411 00:21:23,483 --> 00:21:27,787 was watching those two smile going to jail. 412 00:21:27,887 --> 00:21:30,357 Looking at all the time that they're looking at, 413 00:21:30,457 --> 00:21:33,860 they smiled for the cameras. 414 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,194 KEELY SHAYE SMITH: Turford and Stevens 415 00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:37,464 were extradited to Texas and are currently 416 00:21:37,564 --> 00:21:41,668 being held here at the Harris County Jail in Houston. 417 00:21:41,768 --> 00:21:46,339 I think that anyone who does a series of aggravated robberies 418 00:21:46,439 --> 00:21:48,207 are nothing more than criminals. 419 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,810 They're not anything special. 420 00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:53,546 They're not anything to admire. 421 00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:55,748 They're not anything to emulate. 422 00:21:55,848 --> 00:21:56,883 They're just robbers. 423 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:30,182 ROBERT STACK: Next, a provocative case 424 00:22:30,282 --> 00:22:31,918 study of a criminal mind. 425 00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:35,822 Meet kidnapper of Franklin Delano Floyd. 426 00:22:35,922 --> 00:22:38,558 And later, a poignant tale of a baby girl 427 00:22:38,658 --> 00:22:40,326 abandoned on a subway. 428 00:22:40,427 --> 00:22:43,162 As a grown woman, she dreams of a Christmas reunion 429 00:22:43,262 --> 00:22:44,063 with her birth mother. 430 00:22:58,445 --> 00:23:00,379 This is Michael Hughes. 431 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,214 He is seven years old and has been missing 432 00:23:02,314 --> 00:23:04,884 for more than 14 months. 433 00:23:04,984 --> 00:23:08,455 In 1994, Michael was living with foster parents 434 00:23:08,555 --> 00:23:13,359 when he was abducted by a man who claims to be his father. 435 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:16,262 You're acting like I walked up to the McDonald's and took 436 00:23:16,362 --> 00:23:19,165 a strange boy and walked off with him. 437 00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:20,500 And that's where you're wrong. 438 00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:25,672 ROBERT STACK: This is Franklin Delano Floyd. 439 00:23:25,772 --> 00:23:29,375 In fact, he is not the father of Michael Hughes. 440 00:23:29,476 --> 00:23:32,111 Today, Floyd is serving a 52 year prison sentence 441 00:23:32,211 --> 00:23:34,346 for kidnapping Michael. 442 00:23:34,447 --> 00:23:37,183 Floyd insists the boy is alive and safe, 443 00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:40,152 but he refuses to tell anyone where Michael is 444 00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:41,153 or who is sheltering him. 445 00:23:43,823 --> 00:23:45,758 The case of Franklin Floyd and Michael Hughes 446 00:23:45,858 --> 00:23:48,828 is one of the most bizarre we've ever profiled, 447 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:50,730 a twisted tale of deception and deceit 448 00:23:50,830 --> 00:23:53,633 that truly defies rational thinking. 449 00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:57,737 We now joined Kevin Ogle from our NBC affiliate KFOR-TV 450 00:23:57,837 --> 00:24:00,139 in Oklahoma City. 451 00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:02,308 This is Indian Meridian Elementary School 452 00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,376 just outside of Oklahoma City. 453 00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:07,914 On September 12, 1994, Franklin Delano Floyd 454 00:24:08,014 --> 00:24:10,683 walked into the office of principal James Davis. 455 00:24:10,783 --> 00:24:14,120 Floyd said he was the father of six-year-old Michael Hughes. 456 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:17,289 And then Floyd said he had a gun. 457 00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:18,390 He came in. 458 00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:21,127 He was acting rather nervous, and he said, 459 00:24:21,227 --> 00:24:23,596 what I'm doing is very difficult. 460 00:24:23,696 --> 00:24:25,164 He said, I think I should tell you, 461 00:24:25,264 --> 00:24:27,099 I've got a gun in my pocket. 462 00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:30,236 At that time, he was he was sitting right here. 463 00:24:30,336 --> 00:24:33,339 He reached in his pocket, and he pulled the gun partway out 464 00:24:33,439 --> 00:24:35,374 of his pocket, enough that I could see the handle 465 00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:36,909 in the palm of his hand. 466 00:24:37,009 --> 00:24:39,178 And then he put it back in his pocket. 467 00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:41,247 He said, I'm ready to die. 468 00:24:41,347 --> 00:24:43,215 If you don't help me, you won't live, either. 469 00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:48,688 ROBERT STACK: Principal Davis led Floyd down this hallway 470 00:24:48,788 --> 00:24:52,024 to Michael's classroom. 471 00:24:52,124 --> 00:24:55,862 Floyd then forced both of them into Davis's pickup truck 472 00:24:55,962 --> 00:24:57,964 and ordered Davis to drive out into the country. 473 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:07,006 Then when we got down here a ways, he told me to stop. 474 00:25:07,106 --> 00:25:10,109 And he had me get out of the truck and go into the woods. 475 00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:12,979 He left Michael in the truck, and he 476 00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:15,748 followed me into the woods. 477 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:18,885 He said to sit down by that tree and put your arm 478 00:25:18,985 --> 00:25:20,920 between those two trees. 479 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:24,290 So I couldn't sit, so I just did like this 480 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:26,492 and put my hands behind me. 481 00:25:26,593 --> 00:25:28,527 And he handcuffed my hands behind me like this. 482 00:25:31,664 --> 00:25:34,701 ROBERT STACK: Five hours later, Principal Davis was rescued. 483 00:25:34,801 --> 00:25:37,303 For the next two months, there was no sign of either Franklin 484 00:25:37,403 --> 00:25:39,238 Floyd or Michael Hughes. 485 00:25:39,338 --> 00:25:41,908 Police swore out a warrant for kidnapping. 486 00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:44,476 Finally, Floyd is arrested in Louisville, Kentucky, 487 00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:46,412 but Michael was nowhere to be found. 488 00:25:49,716 --> 00:25:53,019 The authorities began to probe into Floyd's background. 489 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,854 They discovered a past remarkable 490 00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:56,122 for his demented behavior. 491 00:25:59,025 --> 00:26:03,630 In 1975, Floyd, then 32, had turned up in Oklahoma City, 492 00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:06,432 going by the name Trenton B. Davis. 493 00:26:06,532 --> 00:26:08,467 With him was a young girl. 494 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,536 Floyd claimed she was his daughter, Suzanne. 495 00:26:13,205 --> 00:26:15,141 Over the next decade, Suzanne and Floyd 496 00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:19,145 moved from town to town, using a variety of aliases. 497 00:26:19,245 --> 00:26:25,151 In 1988, Suzanne, then 17, gave birth to a son, Michael. 498 00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:28,788 Incredibly, Floyd claimed to be the boy's father. 499 00:26:28,888 --> 00:26:31,290 Even more incredibly, he then turned 500 00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:35,762 around and married the woman he'd claimed was his daughter. 501 00:26:35,862 --> 00:26:38,297 Then in 1990, when Michael was 2, 502 00:26:38,397 --> 00:26:40,066 Suzanne was killed in a mysterious 503 00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:41,901 hit-and-run accident. 504 00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:44,570 The prime suspect, though he was never charged, 505 00:26:44,671 --> 00:26:48,307 was none other than Franklin Floyd. 506 00:26:48,407 --> 00:26:50,643 Floyd vanished, but only after he had 507 00:26:50,743 --> 00:26:52,679 left Michael with foster care. 508 00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:55,447 Michael's foster parents remember him as a child 509 00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:58,350 with many difficulties. 510 00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:00,552 He was not up to grade for his age. 511 00:27:00,653 --> 00:27:02,021 He wasn't-- he didn't have muscle 512 00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:04,256 control like he should have. 513 00:27:04,356 --> 00:27:06,959 He did not talk at all. 514 00:27:07,059 --> 00:27:09,095 He was very hysterical. 515 00:27:09,195 --> 00:27:10,462 So he just wasn't-- he was-- 516 00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:12,131 I want to say malnutrition, but that ain't the right word. 517 00:27:12,231 --> 00:27:13,532 No. 518 00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:17,303 He was delayed so severely that he was in an infant stim class. 519 00:27:17,403 --> 00:27:19,338 And he tested out at nine months. 520 00:27:19,438 --> 00:27:20,239 When he was two? 521 00:27:20,339 --> 00:27:23,609 When he was two. 522 00:27:23,710 --> 00:27:25,644 ROBERT STACK: Six months after abandoning Michael, 523 00:27:25,745 --> 00:27:29,115 Franklin Floyd was arrested on a parole violation. 524 00:27:29,215 --> 00:27:31,183 At that time, a routine blood test delivered 525 00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:33,219 a stunning revelation. 526 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:39,025 Floyd was not Michael Hughes' biological father after all. 527 00:27:39,125 --> 00:27:41,027 I want to plead for the return of my son, 528 00:27:41,127 --> 00:27:42,929 who I love with all my heart. 529 00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:44,864 I have never harmed my son, and the case has 530 00:27:44,964 --> 00:27:46,265 been reversed by the supreme-- 531 00:27:46,365 --> 00:27:47,666 ROBERT STACK: When Floyd got out of jail, 532 00:27:47,767 --> 00:27:50,436 he requested that custody of Michael be returned to him. 533 00:27:50,536 --> 00:27:52,038 --rectify the injustice-- 534 00:27:52,138 --> 00:27:53,305 ROBERT STACK: His request was denied. 535 00:27:56,608 --> 00:27:59,278 Six months later, Floyd would abduct Michael Hughes 536 00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:01,613 from his first grade classroom. 537 00:28:01,714 --> 00:28:05,084 Michael has not been seen since. 538 00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:07,353 We would like to have some information from the public 539 00:28:07,453 --> 00:28:08,755 indicating that this child had either-- 540 00:28:08,855 --> 00:28:10,757 has been seen out there, is out there somewhere, 541 00:28:10,857 --> 00:28:12,825 or they may know something about him being 542 00:28:12,925 --> 00:28:14,326 assaulted or possibly murdered. 543 00:28:14,426 --> 00:28:16,628 That's what our interest is. 544 00:28:16,729 --> 00:28:17,897 Well, you know what people say. 545 00:28:17,997 --> 00:28:20,432 The reason you won't tell where he is. 546 00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:22,401 - Because they think he's dead. - That's right. 547 00:28:22,501 --> 00:28:25,838 Well, they just have no evidence of that. 548 00:28:25,938 --> 00:28:28,640 Michael is not dead. 549 00:28:28,741 --> 00:28:30,777 Why won't you tell us where he is? 550 00:28:30,877 --> 00:28:33,545 It's none of your damn business where he's at. 551 00:28:33,645 --> 00:28:35,748 You don't have a right to love him, care for him, 552 00:28:35,848 --> 00:28:40,019 and cherish him, because he ain't yours. 553 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,088 ROBERT STACK: From the start, the case of young Michael 554 00:28:42,188 --> 00:28:45,724 Hughes had been marked by disturbing unexpected twists, 555 00:28:45,825 --> 00:28:48,027 and now there is one more. 556 00:28:48,127 --> 00:28:49,762 Only recently, the police learned 557 00:28:49,862 --> 00:28:52,698 that Michael's mother, Suzanne, was not Franklin 558 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,367 Floyd's biological daughter. 559 00:28:55,467 --> 00:29:00,206 In fact, she may also have been kidnapped by Floyd. 560 00:29:00,306 --> 00:29:02,809 How did she come into your life as a little girl? 561 00:29:02,909 --> 00:29:08,848 I very bluntly say that she was abandoned to me, 562 00:29:08,948 --> 00:29:11,550 and I raised her. 563 00:29:11,650 --> 00:29:13,685 If I actually told you and you believed me, 564 00:29:13,786 --> 00:29:15,287 or I could prove it you, you know what you'd do? 565 00:29:15,387 --> 00:29:17,389 You'd try to pin a medal on me for taking her. 566 00:29:17,489 --> 00:29:18,290 Where'd she come from? 567 00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:19,358 You really would. 568 00:29:19,458 --> 00:29:20,259 I can't tell you that. 569 00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:22,128 I wish I could. 570 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:25,564 But I'm going-- I'm going to tell you right now, 571 00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:27,800 I did her a favor. 572 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,035 That's one of the biggest mysteries 573 00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:30,236 that we have in this case. 574 00:29:30,336 --> 00:29:32,671 As to who this girl is, we have absolutely no idea. 575 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:35,741 We know that she is not the biological daughter 576 00:29:35,842 --> 00:29:36,876 of Mr. Floyd. 577 00:29:36,976 --> 00:29:38,845 And we feel that there's a very good possibility 578 00:29:38,945 --> 00:29:41,848 that this young girl may have been abducted or kidnapped 579 00:29:41,948 --> 00:29:43,749 when she was probably three or four years of age. 580 00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:45,551 And we would like to find out her true identity. 581 00:29:45,651 --> 00:29:46,452 We don't know that. 582 00:30:09,976 --> 00:30:12,378 ROBERT STACK: In a moment, two armed robbers 583 00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:16,148 hit a small town post office and terrorize the postmaster. 584 00:30:29,328 --> 00:30:32,364 Epes, Alabama, with a population of just 300, 585 00:30:32,464 --> 00:30:35,801 is the very definition of off the beaten path. 586 00:30:35,902 --> 00:30:38,670 The local post office is much like the town itself-- 587 00:30:38,770 --> 00:30:41,273 small, quiet, and friendly, a most 588 00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:42,942 unlikely target for robbery. 589 00:30:46,078 --> 00:30:49,381 October 30, 1987, began like any other day 590 00:30:49,481 --> 00:30:53,485 for Opal Johnson, the postmaster in Epes. 591 00:30:53,585 --> 00:30:55,054 OPAL JOHNSON: Everyone that came into office 592 00:30:55,154 --> 00:30:58,790 was people that I knew, almost, except for hunting season. 593 00:30:58,891 --> 00:31:01,560 And then there were strangers came into the post office 594 00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:02,794 quite often. 595 00:31:02,895 --> 00:31:05,797 So that's why I did not really notice this guy when 596 00:31:05,898 --> 00:31:07,967 he came to the window, because I thought 597 00:31:08,067 --> 00:31:11,503 he was someone there hunting. 598 00:31:11,603 --> 00:31:12,905 ROBERT STACK: At around 11:00 AM, 599 00:31:13,005 --> 00:31:17,009 two strangers, one white and one black, came in for stamps. 600 00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:18,344 Uh, one stamp, or the whole book? 601 00:31:18,444 --> 00:31:19,979 This is a robbery! 602 00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:21,413 Whatever it is, go ahead and take it! 603 00:31:21,513 --> 00:31:22,348 Go ahead! - Get in the back! 604 00:31:22,448 --> 00:31:23,482 Get in the back! Move it! 605 00:31:23,582 --> 00:31:24,650 Move it! Move it! 606 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:27,153 After the black male jumped on the counter, 607 00:31:27,253 --> 00:31:29,821 he immediately began to give orders. 608 00:31:29,922 --> 00:31:31,157 - You the post master? - Yes. 609 00:31:31,257 --> 00:31:32,091 Where's the safe at? 610 00:31:32,191 --> 00:31:33,692 OPAL JOHNSON: He seemed to be real 611 00:31:33,792 --> 00:31:37,229 familiar with the operation of the postal service. 612 00:31:37,329 --> 00:31:40,666 The black male gave all the orders. 613 00:31:40,766 --> 00:31:44,736 He would-- he told the white male everything to do, 614 00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:45,671 and he did it. 615 00:31:45,771 --> 00:31:46,973 Get over there. Get over there. 616 00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:47,873 All right. 617 00:31:47,974 --> 00:31:48,774 I am. 618 00:31:48,874 --> 00:31:50,442 Stay put and nobody gets hurt. 619 00:31:50,542 --> 00:31:51,843 Check her purse! Check her purse! 620 00:31:51,944 --> 00:31:52,778 Nothing. There's nothing. 621 00:31:52,878 --> 00:31:53,679 There's nothing. 622 00:31:53,779 --> 00:31:54,680 You took it all. 623 00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:55,781 You best not be lying. 624 00:31:55,881 --> 00:31:56,848 [inaudible]. 625 00:31:56,949 --> 00:32:00,586 Do whatever he says, whatever he says. 626 00:32:00,686 --> 00:32:02,955 OPAL JOHNSON: I never took money to work with me. 627 00:32:03,055 --> 00:32:05,624 I had $1.38. 628 00:32:05,724 --> 00:32:06,525 Is this all there is? 629 00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:07,426 That's all! 630 00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:08,627 I don't have much money on me. 631 00:32:08,727 --> 00:32:09,795 That's all there is. - Kill her. 632 00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:11,597 - No! - Gotta be calm! 633 00:32:11,697 --> 00:32:12,798 Be calmer. 634 00:32:12,898 --> 00:32:14,000 Kill her! 635 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,703 And the white man says, man, let's don't do that. 636 00:32:17,803 --> 00:32:21,873 He says-- said she did everything we told her to. 637 00:32:21,974 --> 00:32:24,210 He says, OK. 638 00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:25,311 We'll take her with us. 639 00:32:28,047 --> 00:32:30,182 ROBERT STACK: The thieves made off with about $700 640 00:32:30,282 --> 00:32:31,817 in cash and stamps. 641 00:32:31,917 --> 00:32:34,186 One of the men forced Opal into her car 642 00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:36,088 and followed the other out into the country. 643 00:32:39,225 --> 00:32:42,061 It would turn out to be just a 10 minute ride. 644 00:32:42,161 --> 00:32:46,465 For Opal, the most frightening 10 minutes of her life. 645 00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:48,567 OPAL JOHNSON: When the white boy got into the car, 646 00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:53,372 he put his gun across his lap with his finger 647 00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:57,943 still on the trigger, and it was poking me in the side. 648 00:32:58,044 --> 00:32:59,411 And he was extremely nervous. 649 00:33:02,381 --> 00:33:03,182 What are you doing? 650 00:33:03,282 --> 00:33:04,350 You're gonna shoot me. 651 00:33:04,450 --> 00:33:06,485 Don't do anything stupid and it'll be all right. 652 00:33:10,656 --> 00:33:12,058 ROBERT STACK: Finally, the tiny convoy 653 00:33:12,158 --> 00:33:14,660 pulled into a remote clearing near [inaudible] Lake, 654 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,129 three miles from town. 655 00:33:17,229 --> 00:33:19,398 Whatever you do, don't make him mad. 656 00:33:19,498 --> 00:33:20,866 I can't control him when he's mad, OK? 657 00:33:20,966 --> 00:33:22,034 Open the trunk. Open the trunk. 658 00:33:25,137 --> 00:33:26,038 - Get out of the car. - What-- 659 00:33:26,138 --> 00:33:26,905 Get out of the car. 660 00:33:27,005 --> 00:33:27,873 What are you doing? 661 00:33:27,973 --> 00:33:29,308 What are you going to do to me? 662 00:33:29,408 --> 00:33:30,442 No, I don't want to! 663 00:33:30,542 --> 00:33:32,378 No! 664 00:33:32,478 --> 00:33:33,312 What are you doing? 665 00:33:33,412 --> 00:33:34,280 Get in the trunk. 666 00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:35,714 Get in the trunk now! 667 00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:41,620 OPAL JOHNSON: He said, give me your rings. 668 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,855 I like those rings. 669 00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:46,792 And as I was taking my rings off, I looked at him, 670 00:33:46,892 --> 00:33:51,397 and his eyes looked as if he hated the world. 671 00:33:51,497 --> 00:33:53,765 They were just piercing, and he was just angry. 672 00:33:53,865 --> 00:33:58,404 It's like he was angry with everyone in the world. 673 00:33:58,504 --> 00:34:00,472 I was sure that they were going to kill me. 674 00:34:00,572 --> 00:34:01,373 Man, let's go. 675 00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:02,441 We need to dump the car. 676 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:03,475 OPAL JOHNSON: And I just thought, well, 677 00:34:03,575 --> 00:34:04,743 they'll drive my car off into the lake. 678 00:34:04,843 --> 00:34:06,212 - She's seen our faces. - Who cares? 679 00:34:06,312 --> 00:34:07,179 We got a gun. 680 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:08,180 There's people coming. 681 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,081 Let's go! 682 00:34:21,026 --> 00:34:22,928 OPAL JOHNSON: They got in their car, and they left. 683 00:34:23,028 --> 00:34:25,864 And when I could not hear it any more, 684 00:34:25,964 --> 00:34:29,235 I began to feel around in the corner to see if I could go 685 00:34:29,335 --> 00:34:31,537 into the car from the backseat. 686 00:34:31,637 --> 00:34:33,205 And it's metal across there. 687 00:34:33,305 --> 00:34:35,507 No possible way. 688 00:34:35,607 --> 00:34:37,276 So then I found a tire tool. 689 00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:45,217 And I took the tire tool, and I began to work on that lock. 690 00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:50,556 And when I broke the lock enough, the trunk popped up. 691 00:34:50,656 --> 00:34:52,824 And I come out of that trunk running. 692 00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:57,263 ROBERT STACK: Within an hour, Opal 693 00:34:57,363 --> 00:34:59,798 had provided police with a detailed description 694 00:34:59,898 --> 00:35:00,732 of the two men. 695 00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:06,272 The first suspect could now be in his late 20s. 696 00:35:06,372 --> 00:35:08,340 He was 5 feet, 5 inches tall and weighed 697 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,942 approximately 130 pounds. 698 00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:13,179 He had brown hair and green eyes and was 699 00:35:13,279 --> 00:35:16,548 probably not from the South. 700 00:35:16,648 --> 00:35:19,751 The second suspect was about six feet tall and slender. 701 00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:21,587 He would now be in his late 30s. 702 00:35:21,687 --> 00:35:25,557 He had long, heavy sideburns, greasy hair, and dark eyes. 703 00:35:25,657 --> 00:35:28,327 Authorities believe he may have had family in the Epes area 704 00:35:28,427 --> 00:35:30,896 and that he may have previously worked in the mail service. 705 00:35:46,011 --> 00:35:47,413 When we return. 706 00:35:47,513 --> 00:35:49,715 40 years ago, a baby girl was abandoned 707 00:35:49,815 --> 00:35:52,251 on a subway in New York City. 708 00:35:52,351 --> 00:35:54,653 Can you help turn a Christmas mystery 709 00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:55,987 into a Christmas miracle? 710 00:36:16,242 --> 00:36:18,277 40 years ago, the approach of Christmas 711 00:36:18,377 --> 00:36:21,280 brought no joy to a lonely young woman in Brooklyn, New York. 712 00:36:25,351 --> 00:36:28,287 On the afternoon of December 11, 1955, 713 00:36:28,387 --> 00:36:31,557 she boarded a subway train, rode four stops, 714 00:36:31,657 --> 00:36:34,293 and exited without a word. 715 00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:37,863 For reasons unknown, she left behind a tiny baby girl. 716 00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:42,734 By the next day, the infant was something 717 00:36:42,834 --> 00:36:47,105 of a celebrity, dubbed Miss Subways by the local press. 718 00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:50,208 Despite the publicity, no one ever claimed the baby, 719 00:36:50,309 --> 00:36:51,877 and a year later, she was adopted. 720 00:36:55,146 --> 00:36:57,916 Christmas means different things to different people. 721 00:36:58,016 --> 00:37:00,486 For Jeanne Martin of Long Island, New York, 722 00:37:00,586 --> 00:37:04,055 the holiday season is a time of reflection and hope. 723 00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:07,359 Jeanne you see, is Miss Subways, and the mysterious woman on 724 00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:09,728 the train was her birth mother. 725 00:37:09,828 --> 00:37:11,930 Perhaps tonight, someone watching 726 00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:15,000 can help Jeanne Christmas dream of a reunion come true. 727 00:37:18,370 --> 00:37:20,939 Jeanne grew up in a happy, loving home. 728 00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:24,343 From an early age, she knew she had been adopted. 729 00:37:24,443 --> 00:37:27,078 But through the years, Jeanne's questions about her past 730 00:37:27,178 --> 00:37:30,048 fell on deaf ears, almost as if her parents 731 00:37:30,148 --> 00:37:32,484 were protecting her. 732 00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:33,385 Michael, no. 733 00:37:33,485 --> 00:37:34,353 No. 734 00:37:34,453 --> 00:37:35,287 Oh, Michael. 735 00:37:35,387 --> 00:37:36,221 Get out of here. 736 00:37:36,322 --> 00:37:38,156 You go keep your eye on the grill. 737 00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:39,725 ROBERT STACK: As her own children grew, 738 00:37:39,825 --> 00:37:41,226 Jeanne became more and more curious. 739 00:37:41,327 --> 00:37:42,127 [inaudible]. 740 00:37:42,227 --> 00:37:44,630 We're almost ready. 741 00:37:44,730 --> 00:37:46,965 ROBERT STACK: Finally, in July of 1992, 742 00:37:47,065 --> 00:37:51,837 Jeanne once again pressed her mother for answers. 743 00:37:51,937 --> 00:37:54,773 You know, Ma, this may not be the best 744 00:37:54,873 --> 00:37:55,874 time to bring this up again. 745 00:37:55,974 --> 00:37:57,075 Oh, no, Jeanne. 746 00:37:57,175 --> 00:38:00,746 But I really feel I need to, for the kids' sake. 747 00:38:00,846 --> 00:38:01,780 For medical reasons. 748 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,281 You're gonna hate me. 749 00:38:03,382 --> 00:38:04,182 No. 750 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:05,651 You're gonna hate me. 751 00:38:05,751 --> 00:38:07,052 Now, Ma, I'd never hate you. 752 00:38:07,152 --> 00:38:07,953 I love you. 753 00:38:10,656 --> 00:38:16,127 Jeanne, you were abandoned. 754 00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:17,963 Abandoned? 755 00:38:18,063 --> 00:38:18,897 On a subway. 756 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:26,905 JEANNE MARTIN: I was shocked at her reaction, which threw me. 757 00:38:27,005 --> 00:38:28,674 It was basically the-- 758 00:38:28,774 --> 00:38:35,113 driving home that day, it was a total identity crisis, 759 00:38:35,213 --> 00:38:37,949 because nothing belonged to me. 760 00:38:38,049 --> 00:38:39,017 There was no name. 761 00:38:39,117 --> 00:38:42,053 There was a name on the adoption papers, 762 00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:46,792 which I thought to be my birth name, but that wasn't mine. 763 00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:48,226 I had no birth date. 764 00:38:50,929 --> 00:38:53,799 My religion wasn't mine. 765 00:38:53,899 --> 00:38:55,100 There was nothing. 766 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,001 Just nothing. 767 00:38:58,837 --> 00:39:00,806 ROBERT STACK: Once she got over the initial shock, 768 00:39:00,906 --> 00:39:02,908 Jeanne began a search. 769 00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:06,244 At the local library, she spent hours in front of the microfilm 770 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:09,848 viewer, sifting through newspapers from 1955, 771 00:39:09,948 --> 00:39:12,684 the year of her birth. 772 00:39:12,784 --> 00:39:15,353 JEANNE MARTIN: I was letting the microfilm roll 773 00:39:15,454 --> 00:39:17,723 and I saw the top of the policeman's hat, 774 00:39:17,823 --> 00:39:21,927 and it said Miss Subways, and I saw this baby. 775 00:39:22,027 --> 00:39:25,831 And I was devastated. 776 00:39:25,931 --> 00:39:28,233 Oh, my god! 777 00:39:28,333 --> 00:39:30,301 JEANNE MARTIN: I just felt like all the blood had just drained 778 00:39:30,402 --> 00:39:32,270 out of my face and my fingers. 779 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:33,672 I went numb. 780 00:39:33,772 --> 00:39:35,507 That was me! 781 00:39:35,607 --> 00:39:37,075 JEANNE MARTIN: I was nauseous. 782 00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:38,577 I felt faint. 783 00:39:38,677 --> 00:39:39,945 It was incredible. - --copy of that? 784 00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:40,846 Yes. 785 00:39:40,946 --> 00:39:41,747 Yes. 786 00:39:41,847 --> 00:39:42,981 Oh, yes, I want a copy of it. 787 00:39:46,351 --> 00:39:47,819 ROBERT STACK: The newspaper account gave Jeanne 788 00:39:47,919 --> 00:39:51,389 a tantalizing glimpse into her unknown past, 789 00:39:51,490 --> 00:39:54,660 a past which began when a lonely young woman entered the subway 790 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,961 station at Coney Island. 791 00:40:00,165 --> 00:40:04,703 She walked slowly and carried an old, battered suitcase. 792 00:40:04,803 --> 00:40:09,307 The woman took a seat off to herself in the lead car. 793 00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:11,242 Several passengers recalled that the woman 794 00:40:11,342 --> 00:40:14,079 opened her suitcase, shielding it from view, 795 00:40:14,179 --> 00:40:16,314 and took something out. 796 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:20,986 She exited the train at the Van Sicklen Street station. 797 00:40:21,086 --> 00:40:22,420 Seconds later-- 798 00:40:22,521 --> 00:40:23,889 [baby crying] 799 00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:26,057 Watch this. 800 00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:32,564 ROBERT STACK: It was Jeanne, no more than five days old 801 00:40:32,664 --> 00:40:34,833 and wrapped in a blanket, with a full bottle 802 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:36,067 of milk tucked inside. 803 00:40:36,167 --> 00:40:38,537 Somebody left this baby on the train! 804 00:40:38,637 --> 00:40:40,806 Hey, tell the motorman not to leave the station. 805 00:40:40,906 --> 00:40:42,240 So the baby was just left on the train. 806 00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:43,509 Imagine that. I can't believe it. 807 00:40:43,609 --> 00:40:44,543 Jeez, I hope she's all right. 808 00:40:44,643 --> 00:40:45,944 You go up there. 809 00:40:46,044 --> 00:40:47,045 One right here, one in there. 810 00:40:47,145 --> 00:40:48,980 The passengers were able to provide police 811 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,817 with a vague description of the young mother, 812 00:40:51,917 --> 00:40:54,319 but no one had any idea who she was 813 00:40:54,419 --> 00:40:58,056 or why she had abandoned her baby. 814 00:40:58,156 --> 00:40:58,990 Extra, extra! 815 00:40:59,090 --> 00:41:00,826 Get your papers here! 816 00:41:00,926 --> 00:41:03,128 ROBERT STACK: The next day, the saga of Miss Subways 817 00:41:03,228 --> 00:41:05,697 was splashed across the front pages. 818 00:41:05,797 --> 00:41:09,568 This photograph of baby Jeanne was seen by thousands. 819 00:41:09,668 --> 00:41:13,905 But Jeanne's mother never came forward. 820 00:41:14,005 --> 00:41:16,374 Now some 40 years later, Jeanne Martin 821 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,877 is convinced that her birth mother had her best interests 822 00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:21,379 at heart, choosing to leave her in a place 823 00:41:21,479 --> 00:41:23,515 where she was certain to be quickly found 824 00:41:23,615 --> 00:41:27,986 and turned over to the authorities. 825 00:41:28,086 --> 00:41:29,555 JEANNE MARTIN: My feelings are desperate people 826 00:41:29,655 --> 00:41:32,591 do desperate things. 827 00:41:32,691 --> 00:41:33,692 I need information. 828 00:41:33,792 --> 00:41:36,427 I need somebody who remembers something, 829 00:41:36,528 --> 00:41:39,531 somebody who remembers a neighbor, 830 00:41:39,631 --> 00:41:43,869 maybe even someone who was on the train who saw her or maybe 831 00:41:43,969 --> 00:41:45,771 even recognized her but at the time 832 00:41:45,871 --> 00:41:49,407 was afraid to come forward. 833 00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:51,376 I'm ready to meet her. 834 00:41:51,476 --> 00:41:53,044 Anytime, anywhere. 835 00:42:03,755 --> 00:42:06,558 From all of us at "Unsolved Mysteries" to all of you, 836 00:42:06,658 --> 00:42:10,028 our best wishes for a safe and joyous holiday season. 837 00:42:10,128 --> 00:42:13,599 May peace be with you, and may all your mysteries be solved. 838 00:42:16,702 --> 00:42:19,938 [music playing] 64293

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