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MALE (VOICEOVER): This program is about unsolved mysteries.
Whenever possible, the actual family members
and police officials have participated
in recreating the events.
What you are about to see is not a news broadcast.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Tonight, an intriguing look
at a little known phenomenon--
the mysterious link between adoptees
and their birth families.
Many believe that even after years of separation,
they are connected by a remarkable
psychic tie that cannot be explained
by coincidence or science.
In Rhode Island, a wild car chase
ended in the stabbing death of 20-year-old Jason Bass.
His attacker, Adam Emery, was convicted of murder,
and then released on bail, pending sentencing.
Hours later, Emery's car was found abandoned on the Newport
Bridge, leading many to believe that Emory and his wife
had jumped to their deaths.
But reliable sources believe that Adam
Emery may still be alive.
When 38-year-old Latricia White was murdered,
the police and her family began to suspect
her boyfriend, Doug Walker Hagen, who had mysteriously
dropped from sight.
More than a year later, he is still missing.
But is Doug the cold-blooded killer?
Or was he a victim of violence himself?
Join me for these intriguing new cases and much more.
Perhaps you may be able to help solve a mystery.
[music playing]
Mom?
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A joyous reunion between a mother
and her long-lost daughter.
Brothers and sisters who grew up apart
meet for the first time as adults.
Remarkable moments like these have been captured
by our cameras dozens of times.
Imagine meeting your child or a sibling--
in reality, a complete stranger, after years of wondering
what he or she is like.
We have learned that in many cases,
reunited family members have a surprising amount in common,
more than can be explained by genetics or simple coincidence.
We decided to take a closer look at this mysterious connection,
this bond that seems to defy scientific explanation.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Don Larkin grew
up knowing he had been adopted.
But he was 44 years old before he finally located his birth
mother, Betty Landers.
Even before Don met Betty, he knew
they would have much in common.
As he approached her house for the first time,
Don noticed an unusual display of knickknacks
hanging in the window--
a carved hummingbird, and next to it, a crystal prism.
Don had only seen these items together in one other place,
his own front window.
It really startled me to see somebody
else having something like that in the window of their house.
And I just thought, well, she must
be a pretty neat lady, because she
picked the same stuff I did.
Coincidences that are very rare, such as Betty and Don's
both having hummingbirds and crystals in their front windows
of their houses, are almost impossible to explain
by the traditional cause effect genetic relationship.
That's a very good example of one
that is probably due to some unknown
spiritual, psychic connection.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Many believe
that the same eerie bond exists between separated siblings.
Lorelei Smith, who everyone called Lori,
was the only daughter of her adoptive parents.
Yet, even as a four-year-old, she sensed that somewhere, she
had a sister. - Who's that?
Me and my sister.
But you don't have a sister.
Yes, I do.
I was so firm about it, one of the teachers
felt necessary to contact my parents.
I was told at the time not to continue
with this illusion or fantasy.
But I, apparently, still kept insisting I had a sister.
At that time in 1959, Lorelei did, indeed, have a sister,
Lori, then 1 and 1/2 years old.
And we were living in Alaska.
Lorelei was in New Mexico.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As children, Lori Smith
and her sister Lori Stiffler had much more in common
than just their first names.
Both owned horses, and both played
the same musical instruments-- the flute and the guitar.
Surprisingly, they had each learned
sign language, though neither one knew a single deaf person.
I believe that the most common explanation
for these coincidences is probably genetic.
But there are coincidences that the genetic attachment,
the genetic cause, simply can't explain.
And then, I think we have to look to a spiritual,
a telepathic, a psychokinetic type of explanation,
difficult as that may be to do.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Elizabeth Bersanetti's story
is a case in point.
She grew up with her adoptive family in Southern California.
For as long as she can remember, Elizabeth was drawn to anything
and everything French.
I always had a fascination with languages.
And the first one I wanted to speak was French.
I was just obsessed with the language.
It was so foreign to me.
And I just wanted to be different.
I wanted to be those people that I
saw in the films, the Parisians walking along,
the students studying at the Sorbonne.
I wanted that identity.
I wanted to be French.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In 1985, Elizabeth
formally requested a reunion with her birth mother
through the agency that had handled her adoption.
However, both Elizabeth's birth mother and adoptive mother
were required to give their consent.
Afraid to hurt her adoptive mother's feelings,
Elizabeth postponed the search.
Five years passed.
In January of 1990 Elizabeth, married a young man
she met while traveling in Italy.
Elizabeth says that one month later, she began to have
a series of recurring dreams.
A shadowy woman always appeared.
And Elizabeth soon came to believe
the woman was her birth mother.
My mother was being told that she didn't have very
long to live, that she had cancer,
and that it was going to progress at a very rapid rate.
There was a lot of sadness I felt from the dream.
She was obviously very gravely ill.
And to me, that said that she was dying.
When Elizabeth woke up, she was really upset about it.
And, of course, I said, you know, it's impossible.
You're just over-worried about it.
You're too worried.
And it's not going to be anything.
But then she had the same dream again in the following days.
And she actually once woke up crying about it.
In late August, I woke up with almost the fact
that my mother was dead.
I was never going to meet her.
It was over.
I was never going to see her.
I was too late.
It was on me that whole day and all the days after that
that I had missed her.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Soon after that disturbing dream,
Elizabeth returned to the adoption agency.
This time, she had her adoptive mother's
signed consent in hand.
I guess all the waivers are in.
All the waivers are in?
You mean you have my birth mother's as well?
Oh yes, since May of '85.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Elizabeth
was stunned by the timing.
Her birth mother had asked for a reunion
just days after Elizabeth's own initial request.
Nichole Roland, and she's French-Canadian.
[phone ringing]
WOMAN: Hello?
Bonjour, I'm looking for Nicole Roland, please.
WOMAN: Who is this?
I'm an old friend of hers from Los Angeles.
WOMAN: I'm afraid I have bad news for you.
Nicole has passed away.
When?
WOMAN: Last August.
It was devastating.
And I said, did she die on August 28?
And she said, yes.
And she just broke into tears, and said,
how would you know that?
All I could think of was that my dreams
were true, that I had had this strange connection to her.
I had known when she was sick.
And I'd known when she died.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Incredibly, Nicole
Roland had lived the life Elizabeth
once dreamed of for herself.
Nicole had been a professor of French,
spending two years among the Parisians
studying at the Sorbonne.
It seems that me and my birth mother had a lot in common,
and would have had a lot in common had we
been able to know each other.
It appears that we were living, at times, a parallel life,
doing the same things, being in the same places,
and interested in the same subjects.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Although Elizabeth
was never able to meet Nicole, she did
discover a whole new family.
Elizabeth flew to Canada to meet her half sister
Sophie, and a houseful of Nicole's friends and relatives.
During the visit, Elizabeth continued
to find unexplainable links to her birth mother.
Hi.
Could I draw with you?
Sure.
OK, what should I draw?
I don't know, maybe a house.
OK, let's make it turquoise.
I went to all the crayons.
And I selected a turquoise crayon, which was sort of odd,
I thought.
But I just-- it was an unconscious thing.
And I started drawing this house.
And I'd never drawn a house like this in my life.
The door was on the wrong side.
The garage was on the wrong side of the door.
And it had little weird dormers, and turquoise trim.
And I just remarked, even while I was drawing,
this is a strange house.
And, well, it's a house.
Here it is.
John, look at this.
The room got very quiet.
Everybody seemed to be staring at me.
And I felt very uncomfortable.
Elizabeth, why did you draw this house?
- I don't know. - Really?
You don't know?
No.
How is it?
Nice.
The day after I did the drawing,
my sister took me to the house that she
had lived in with my mother.
And it was the house that I had drawn the previous night--
the same little odd house with the peaked roof,
and the turquoise trim, and the garage on the wrong side.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Elizabeth
says that just before leaving Canada,
one final extraordinary incident reaffirmed
the almost magical connection with her birth mother.
She would be so proud.
Thank you.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): A friend
of Nicole's gave Elizabeth one of Nicole's
most treasured books, a collection
of poems by a German writer.
As it happened, the author was also
one of Elizabeth's favorites.
In fact, she had brought the same book with her to Canada.
Thank you so much.
I would like to believe that she was consciously
communicating with me.
But I don't really have any way of knowing.
I can-- whatever it is, I think that it's powerful,
and that it's, certainly, alternately
wonderful and frightening sometimes.
When we begin to look at the connections that seem to occur
across both time and space, we run
into the inability of our current knowledge system
to explain things like this.
But they happen so frequently that there must
be some reality behind them.
Maybe I am looking for a connection
to her that's deeper and more rooted than it might have been.
But I tend to think that what I feel is very true.
She couldn't give me the legacy of knowing her,
or of having shared things with me.
So she shared things with me in another way.
[music playing]
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, the bizarre saga of Adam Emery,
Did the convicted murderer commit
suicide by jumping from Rhode Island's Newport bridge?
Or did he cleverly stage his own death?
[music playing]
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The Newport Bridge
arcs some two miles across the Narragansett Bay
in Rhode Island.
At its highest point, the road bed stands
219 feet above the water.
On the evening of November 10th, 1993,
the bridge was a scene of a sobering discovery--
the latest twist in one of the state's
most sensational murder cases.
Shortly before 7:00 PM, a bridge supervisor and a state trooper
investigated an empty car that was blocking
one of the westbound lanes.
The engine was running.
And the headlights were on.
Empty car, nobody in it, nobody around.
Check the sides.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On the backseat were several articles
of clothing neatly folded.
Up front, cash, cut up credit cards, and a driver's license.
When we first got up there, I thought
it was an abandoned car.
He checked the car.
And he says, oh no.
And that's when we knew.
He says, it's the Emery's car.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Most anyone in Rhode Island
would have recognized the name Emery.
That very day, Adam Emery had been convicted of murder.
Though he was free on bail, Emery faced 20 years to life
in the state penitentiary.
Now, it appeared that Adam and his wife Elena
had found a way out of their impending separation--
by jumping to their deaths off the Newport Bridge.
The apparent double suicide about Adam and Elena Emery
was stunning news.
But it would not be the last chapter
in this extraordinary case--
far from it.
Soon, authorities would begin to suspect that the Emery's were,
in fact, alive, the abandoned car
just the final flourish in a well-planned dash for freedom.
Even as we med our story, dramatic new evidence
continued to surface.
This most unusual of cases was set in motion
by a single chance event. - Great, thanks, you too.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On August 31st, 1990,
Adam Emery, his wife Elena, and another couple,
stopped for dinner at a seafood stand in their hometown
of Warwick, Rhode Island.
It was just before 9:00 PM.
I was hungry.
Hey, that guy!
He's taking off!
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The car sped away and disappeared
around a corner.
You've got to chase after that guy!
Adam Emery turned on his car.
And he headed out.
And he looked off into the distance.
And he saw a car way off in the distance.
And his wife yelled out, that's the car.
Let's chase them.
Get the license plates!
Get me a pen!
Did you get it?
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The car
fixed in Emery's headlights was driven by a 20-year-old named
Jason Bass.
His cousin and a friend were with him.
[honking]
Cut him off, honey!
Hey, you could have killed us!
You're going to pay for this! - Just go!
Go!
This guy's crazy!
Pull over!
Cut him off!
Take my knife.
What are you doing, man!
Wondering who this person is.
He got out of his car, yelling and screaming.
I'm going to kick your butt.
I'm going to kill you, major fighting words.
Unbelievably-- this guy was so mad.
I mean, I've never seen anybody madder than this.
I told you to pull over!
I told you to-- hey!
Stop the car!
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): While clinging to the car,
Adam began to slash at Jason with a knife.
Help!
Police!
Josh!
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Neighbors rushed out to help.
They would soon be joined by an off duty detective
who lived just down the street.
When I arrived, the whole air about the scene
was very spooky.
It had a haze.
And it was a warm summer night.
And it just had a spooky, eerie feeling
about what I was going into.
And I pulled up thinking that it was
just a motor vehicle accident.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): It was far more than an accident.
Jason Bass, stabbed once through the heart, died at the scene.
I don't understand why my son got murdered
when he was so good of a child.
We'd help anybody.
He just went and picked up a friend
from work to take him home.
And he ended up dead.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The tragedy
of Jason's death was compounded by the facts that soon emerged.
He had never so much as touched Adam Emery's car.
The Ford LTD that was being driven by Jason Bass
was not the vehicle that hit Adam
Emery's car at the clam stand.
They took paint chips off of Adam's car.
And they tested those paint chips
with the paint of Jason Bass's car,
and proved conclusively that it was
a different vehicle that struck Adam Emery's car that evening.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Those who knew Adam Emery were
stunned by the turn of events.
He had never been in trouble with the law.
Indeed, Emery had once been a military policeman in the Rhode
Island National Guard.
Now, Adam Emery stood accused of murder in the second degree.
His trial began on November 5th 1993.
Any idea what you have done to that family?
I had to defend myself.
And this person was trying to take control of the situation.
And I had to take some action.
I had to do something.
Adam Emery's testimony was very rigid.
It seemed rehearsed.
And I think the jurors picked up on that.
He never expressed any remorse for killing someone.
He said that he stabbed Jason Bass in self-defense.
He had no choice.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The trial ended on November 10th,
Adam Emery's 31st birthday.
Members of the jury find the defendant Adam Emery guilty
of murder in the second degree.
Right after he was convicted, Elena Emery kind of muttered
to herself, it's my fault. And then she got very tense,
and sort of clenched her jaw, and said,
I'm going to kill someone.
I'm going to kill someone.
The courtroom exploded into a time bomb of emotion.
You had the Bass family there, who the person who murdered
their son was convicted.
You had a very close family on Adam's side
and on Elena's side, who now their son is
going to jail for 20 to life.
And there was crying, and emotion, and anger.
And there was a great mix of emotion
in that courtroom on that day.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Just moments
after the verdict, a news crew caught this scene
inside the courtroom.
Elena was pretty emotional, I guess because of the verdict.
Adam-- Adam didn't have any emotions at all.
It was like he didn't care one way or the other.
In my mind, I think that Adam knew he wasn't
going to serve any time at all.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): By nightfall, Adam and Elena
would be dead, or so it seemed, until police began
to reconstruct the events leading up
to the apparent double suicide.
Adam Emery was allowed to remain free on bail
pending formal sentencing one month later.
He and Elena left the courthouse at about 3:00 PM.
3:35-- the Emery's showed up in a local sporting goods store.
Hi, excuse me, do you have any more ab weights?
Sure.
Elena was far from nervous.
She smiled.
She was talkative.
It didn't seem like there was anything on her mind,
or she had anything planned.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The Emery's bought
sweatsuits, athletic socks, and 80 pounds of strap
on exercise weights.
But, curiously, the salesman reported that Adam was
disturbed by the total bill.
To police, saving money seemed an unlikely concern for someone
about to take his own life.
At 4:45 PM, Adam and Elena pulled up
at the Newport bridge.
The previous hour, they had been observed calmly
dining at a fast food restaurant,
which also seemed out of character for a couple bent
on suicide.
4:50 PM, the Emery's were seen outside their car
on the walkway of the bridge.
By 5:15, Adam and Elena had driven away.
Apparently, the Emery's returned to the bridge.
Their car was reported as abandoned at 6:53 PM.
The search for the bodies of Adam and Elena Emery
was one of the most extensive in the history of Rhode Island.
SONAR-equipped boats probed the bottom of the bay.
Teams of divers searched the bridge footings,
and trained dogs scoured miles of shoreline.
In the end, not a single scrap of evidence
was recovered from the bay.
The investigation stalled until detective
Hopkins remembered the courtroom footage,
and had an inspiration.
I obtained that tape.
And I took it to a person who was hearing impaired.
One of her means of communication
is to read people's lips.
And I asked her if she could interpret
the conversation that was being held
between Adam and Elena Emery.
Said, you promised me.
Said you promised me?
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Hours of reviewing
and replaying the tape finally yielded Elena's furtive words.
We're going to do what we originally said.
You promised me.
You're positive?
We're going to do what you originally said,
you promised me?
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the end,
the cryptic exchange left investigators
about where they started.
Clearly, the Emery's had made a plan.
But was it a desperate suicide pact or a bold scheme
to run from the law?
We should have done this before.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Nine months
after the Emery's disappeared, a fisherman working
the Narragansett Bay found two human leg
bones snagged in his net.
Clinging to one was a fragment of sock, identical to those
purchased by Adam and Elena.
I took the blue gold and blue bands
to a marine biologist in an attempt
to get a timeframe as to how long
the bones were in the water.
There was the determination of the marine biologist
that there was no micro organisms growing
within the webbing of the material, which told me
as the investigator that the bones with this material
wrapped around them were not under the water for the period
of nine months, and that because of that,
they could not be Adam and Elena Emery.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In addition,
a forensic anthropologist judged with 85%
certainty that the bone most likely
was from a white male, no more than five
feet seven inches tall.
Adam Emery was 6'1 1".
When "Unsolved Mysteries" arrived in Rhode Island
to film this story in August of 1994,
there was considerable evidence suggesting Adam
and Elena Emery had fled.
However, their families firmly believed the young couple
had jumped to their deaths.
By the time we finished filming, the case had once again taken
a totally surprising turn.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On August 30th,
Detective Hopkins responded to an urgent call from the harbor.
Narragansett Bay had yielded up another grim piece of evidence.
I'm here to announce today that the skull that
was recovered August 30th, 1994 from the east passage
of Narragansett Bay has been positively identified
as that of Elena Emery.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Elena Emery had at last been found.
But to date, there has been no trace of Adam.
Perhaps, his bones are deep in Narragansett bay.
Or, perhaps, the day will come when Adam Emery turns up alive.
If so, he would almost certainly face one final question--
how did it come to pass that Elena,
alone, jumped to her death?
Officially, the case remains open.
Reliable sources say there is reason to believe Adam
Emery never committed suicide.
Emery is 6 feet 1 inch tall, and weighs 195 pounds.
He has black hair and blue eyes.
Next, the search for a Texas man accused
of murdering his girlfriend.
[music playing]
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Lockhart, Texas,
Monday, December 27, 1993--
Jack White arrived at his daughter's
house filled with apprehension.
Patricia White, a 38-year-old nurse,
had not been seen or heard from in nearly 24 hours.
Trish?
Trish?
Everyone was concerned about Latricia, because she just
hadn't gone to work Monday.
And she never, never fails to go to work, or at least call.
Trish?
Trisha?
It was kind of dark in the room.
And I just called her.
Then I went over and felt her.
I knew that she was dead.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Latricia White
had been shot six times in the head with a .22 caliber weapon.
Her death stunned her friends and neighbors in Lockhart.
Latricia was known as a dedicated and caring nurse.
In addition to the grieving community,
Latricia left behind two children, and a host
of unanswered questions.
From the onset, investigators were puzzled.
Despite the violent nature of the crime,
there were no signs of a struggle,
and nothing in the house had been disturbed.
Just as puzzling was a mysterious disappearance
of Latricia's live-in boyfriend, a local trucker
Lee Walker Hoggin Jr., nicknamed Dub.
Also missing was Dub's 9-year-old son
Chance, who had been visiting for the Christmas holidays.
The fact that her boyfriend Dub, Walker Hagen,
could not be found, led us to several different areas
to investigate.
Number one, is he a suspect?
Could he have committed this crime?
The other one is, or is he a victim?
Has he also been injured?
Three days later, an unexpected discovery--
Dub's pickup truck was found abandoned in Austin, Texas,
approximately 30 miles from the crime scene.
For it to be there and be locked up,
it is well-known in the law enforcement
community in the Austin area that this is a high crime area.
And for that vehicle to be found there really surprised me.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the cab,
investigators found Dub's hunting
rifle, which had not been fired, his checkbook, and his wallet.
In back, a tool box, spare tire, and Christmas gifts,
some unopened, but all streaked with blood.
Initially in the investigation,
we felt that this blood could have come from our victim.
That was later ruled out.
The blood type was not the same as our victim.
So we feel like that someone else was injured--
not seriously, but someone else was injured.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Could that someone else
have been Dub or Chance?
The question could not be answered.
All of the blood tests were inconclusive.
What happened to Dub Walker Hagen
and his 9-year-old son Chance?
It is a mystery that has torn two families
in a small Texas town apart.
Dub and Latricia White had grown up together.
Yet, today the police and Latricia's family
believe that Dub murdered Latricia in a jealous rage.
On the other hand, Dub's family and friends
are convinced that Dub and Chance
are also victims, that they met with foul play themselves.
It's been going on 11 months now.
And we haven't heard anything from him at all.
And that tells me, if we haven't heard from him,
then he's got to be dead.
He's not dead.
I mean, if someone had come in and killed three of them,
why take a 270 pound body out, and leave a much lighter one?
I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.
I don't know who did it.
I just know that he-- that he couldn't have-- couldn't
have done it, and then just disappeared
off the face of the Earth.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): To the police,
however, Dub was the obvious suspect,
especially after they began to take
a close look at his relationship with Latricia.
Hi, guys.
Hi, Trish.
Where were you last night?
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At the time of the murder,
Dub and Latricia had been living together for six months.
According to Latricia's family, Dub was extremely
jealous and suspicious.
It was more like 45 minutes.
I wish that in the future, if you're going to be late,
would you please give me a call and let me know,
or try to be home on time?
Trish and him always fought.
They could fight about a fly on the wall.
It didn't mean anything.
I don't know if they just liked to fight, and then make up,
or whatever.
But a fight doesn't mean anything to me,
I mean as far as them arguing, because I
know he's not violent, as far as you know like hitting
and stuff like that.
I lived with him.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Dub's ex-wife, Chance's mother,
disagrees.
And I saw that he was a good man when I met him.
And when I left him, I was scared to death of him.
He had a temper.
He treated my oldest boy terribly.
And I was scared.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Two days before Christmas,
three days before the murder, a friend
witnessed one of Dub and Latricia's
more heated arguments.
He's only nine years old. What do you expect?
I expect him to be able to--
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Dub's son Chance was apparently
the focus of the conflict.
I don't know why you're making such a damn big deal out of it
anyway.
Excuse me, Chance.
It's not your fault. Your father raised
you to be a spoiled brat.
Brat! He's my son.
He's not yours.
And you have no right!
You understand me?
Well, it's my house!
Fine, we're out of here.
Chance, get your stuff.
Let's go.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): According to the friend,
Dub packed his bags and threatened to leave.
I'm tired of your threats.
You don't have the guts to leave!
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): However, just three nights
later, Dub, Chance, and Latricia were seen enjoying themselves
at a local restaurant.
The incident was apparently forgotten.
But late the next day, Latricia's father
found her shot to death in her bedroom.
Dub and Chance had disappeared.
Three days later, Dub was formally charged
with first degree murder.
However, his family believes that the authorities
have made a terrible mistake.
He wasn't that kind of man.
He just wasn't.
It wasn't in him.
He' run up on a wreck or anything else, he'd see blood,
he'd go to pieces.
He doesn't stand blood.
He couldn't shoot nobody six times, no way.
I believe that someone else killed Trish.
And the reason they didn't kill Dub there on the scene
was to make it look like that Dub had done it.
All this time, they've been looking for Dub and Dub only,
the law has.
They've never looked for anybody else.
So whoever did do it has gotten away with it so far.
Now, under normal circumstances,
Dub was an easy going, very likable person.
But if he was pushed to the point,
and enraged, and made mad enough--
and we feel that probably Chance was the trigger,
Chance was the pivot point--
that this set him off.
And he did something, committed this act,
that had he been given five minutes to stop,
and back off, and think about it,
he probably would not have done it.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Four months passed,
but no sign of Dub or Chance.
Then, at the house of Chance's maternal grandfather.
Hello?
BOY: Help me.
Help me.
Hello?
Hello?
All he said was, help me.
And then the phone was jerked out of his hand,
and slammed down.
And I looked over at my wife.
And I said, that was Chance.
Could the plea for help have come from Chance Walker Hagen?
Dub's family is convinced the answer is no.
They believe the phone call was a hoax,
and that Dub and Chance were murdered.
Latricia's family dismisses that scenario.
They believe that Dub is a killer,
and still very much alive.
I feel someone in his family is helping him,
because I just don't think a person can just disappear
and not get help from somewhere to help you survive,
and to get to where you need to go without being caught.
I haven't heard from him.
I haven't given him any money, haven't done nothing.
And there is no way that him, Dub, and that boy Chance
can survive without money.
They just want to believe that we know where they are,
and that we're helping them, because that way they know
that Chance and Dub were alive.
But they can't be alive, because we would have heard.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Lee Dub Walker Hagen
is 40 years old, six feet four inches
tall, and weighs 240 pounds.
He has blue eyes and blond hair.
Investigators believe that he could
be practically anyone because of his connections
in the trucking industry.
Chance Walker Hagen is 10 years old,
and weighs approximately 64 pounds.
He has blue eyes, blond hair, and a fair complexion.
I want to find out what happened to him.
I want to know one way or the other.
And I want everyone else to know, because none of us,
none of the families, can have any kind of peace whatsoever.
You know, the Whites have lost their daughter.
And lost her son, and we've lost two people.
And I think that we all need to know
what really happened to him.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, see
how your tips led to the capture of a dangerous fugitive.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On August 19, 1992,
20-year-old Travis Wade Duncan staged
a brazen daylight raid on the Seminole County jail
in Oklahoma.
He fled the scene with two inmates, John
Fisher and Timothy Johnson.
Duncan himself had been an inmate at the jail
until just the day before.
With Duncan behind the wheel, the three fugitives
led authorities on a reckless, high speed chase
through central Oklahoma, a run and gun battle
that lasted more than an hour.
Every time he'd lean out and try to draw a bead on my unit,
then I would go to the left or the driver side
to get as far over as I could to get out of the line of fire.
This is something that you expect to see on the movies.
But you don't really expect it to happen to you.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): By 7:30 PM,
the three fugitives had rampaged along a 150 mile
stretch of Interstate 40 at speeds
of up to 100 miles per hour.
But nothing slowed the pursuit, not even a homemade bomb.
That Molotov cocktail failed to ignite,
because it hit the road, the wind, the high speed,
blew wick out of it and it was smoldering.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The chase finally ended
on the shores of Kerr Lake.
After a brief firefight, Fisher, Duncan, and Johnson
fled into the woods.
Unwittingly, they had trapped themselves on a peninsula
jutting into the lake.
Come out!
Don't shoot!
Put your hands up over year head!
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Within an hour,
Fisher and Johnson were cornered and taken into custody.
But Travis Duncan and somehow managed to elude the dragnet.
For more than 20 months, his whereabouts remained a mystery.
Update-- on May 5th, 1994, Travis Wade Duncan
finally came home to Seminole County, Oklahoma,
five days after he was arrested in Boise, Idaho.
Thanks to a tip from an alert viewer,
Duncan's life on the run is finally over.
We believe that he went from Oklahoma, to North or South
Carolina, has went into Washington and Oregon,
went to Hawaii, was in Arizona prior to being
arrested in Boise, Idaho.
So he had traveled around doing odd jobs, living from one state
to another.
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Once in custody,
Duncan willingly revealed the details of his escape
from Kerr Lake.
Travis told me that after the crash,
he stayed in the woods, traveled through the woods,
until he came to the edge of the water on Kerr Lake.
He stayed hid in the bushes till about an hour after dark.
And then he swam a cove, which would be approximately half
a mile wide, and then came up, and stayed in the tree line,
and walked a mountain line out.
And he was able to catch a ride, and go east from that area.
I'm delighted that he's behind bars.
That kind of ends this story.
And I'm completely satisfied with the results,
that nobody was injured.
He was apprehended.
And he's facing the years in the penitentiary
that he's looking at.
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Next week, join me for a special presentation,
"Mysteries of the Afterlife."
On a stormy evening in 1975, Dannion Brinkley
was struck by a powerful bolt of lightning.
Dannion says he embarked on a remarkable
near-death experience, which apparently
left him with psychic powers.
Just days before her wedding, 21-year-old Karen Walker
passed away after a long, painful battle with cancer.
Karen's mother claims that ever since, Karen has communicated
with her, imparting valuable lessons on living
from beyond the grave.
And the chilling tale of a young girl's encounter with the dead.
Heidi Warwick's parents were stunned to learn
that her imaginary playmates might, in fact, be
the restless spirits of real people
who are passed to the other side.
Join me next Friday, as we explore
the mysteries of the afterlife.
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