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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 3 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,240 The early 2000s were marked by the rise of a French rapper: DIAM'S 4 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,200 Over 3 albums, she became a social phenomenon. 5 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,040 She sold millions of records. 6 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Hundreds of thousands attended her concerts. 7 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:13,680 But in 2010, at the height of her fame, 8 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,000 Diam's made a life choice that shocked France. 9 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,120 She bowed out of public life. 10 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,760 For the first time, she tells her story. 11 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,840 By running in all directions, 12 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,960 my life now had none. 13 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,560 Run, 14 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,320 keep running. 15 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,760 But running after what? 16 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,160 It seems we all run after happiness. 17 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,840 But what is happiness really? 18 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,040 Who is it? 19 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,360 How is it? Where is it? When is it? 20 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,360 They said I'd find it in wealth. 21 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,720 I had wealth. 22 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,800 But happiness? 23 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,840 I didn't find it. 24 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,200 They said: "It's because you don't have love, Melanie!" 25 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,520 So I looked for people's love, 26 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,960 and millions of them loved me. 27 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,120 I loved them too. 28 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,160 But happiness? 29 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,600 It still wasn't there. 30 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,920 So I continued. 31 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,880 Running, looking. 32 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,720 Always higher, always further, always more dangerously. 33 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,080 Even if it cost me my life. 34 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,840 Exhausted, 35 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,360 I even thought that it didn't exist 36 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,840 and that it was better to die 37 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:42,840 because 38 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,200 I needed something else. 39 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:47,080 But what? 40 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,920 I didn't know. 41 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,360 I had become my own greatest mystery. 42 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,040 This amazing story raises many questions about the place of women, 43 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,280 especially Muslim women in our society. 44 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,800 One of them is iconic in many ways: Diam's, 45 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,120 a rebellious singer who had huge success 46 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,240 before marrying and shunning fame in favour of religious tradition. 47 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,120 Diam's is amazing tonight! 48 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,880 We might ask ourselves why such a controversy, 49 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,360 or why a controversy of such magnitude. 50 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,960 Is the former model for inner-city girls 51 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,000 destroying her image? 52 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,200 She hasn't changed. Whether Muslim or not, 53 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,600 we love her talent and her lyrics. 54 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,080 Diam's isn't rap, Diam's is life. 55 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,360 A blanket... 56 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,480 Enough! Everyone in their pyjamas now! 57 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,600 No! 58 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,280 What's the horse doing in the house? 59 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,120 Maryam, did you bring a horse into the house? 60 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,520 No, it wasn't me! 61 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,920 Is he your pet? Look, he's watching TV with you! 62 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,240 Is that how you watch TV? 63 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,440 I'm Dominique, 64 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,400 and I'm Melanie's mum. 65 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,800 That's it. 66 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Can you tell us 67 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,600 what kind of a little girl Melanie was? 68 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,440 - What kind of... - What she was like as a child. 69 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,800 Funny, 70 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,880 she had a lot of repartee. 71 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,280 She was really funny. 72 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:02,160 A strong personality. 73 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,240 She knew what she wanted. 74 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,360 But still quite easy... 75 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,120 She was good company. 76 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:14,520 I was glad to have a daughter like her. 77 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,080 And as a teenager? 78 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,320 That was a bit different, more difficult. 79 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,320 That's normal. 80 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,520 She'd already fallen into the rap cauldron, 81 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,920 so it was a little more difficult. 82 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,200 I first got to know Melanie 83 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,000 before the explosion, 84 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,960 before the glory if you like. 85 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,840 I saw her move from the shadows into the spotlight 86 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,480 and become famous 87 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,520 after the album Brut de femme, DJ, 88 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,720 and then Dans ma bulle, which was a huge success. 89 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,840 I saw her become 90 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,400 France's top celebrity, especially among young people. 91 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,600 I saw the whirlwind. 92 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,120 Dans ma bulle was a huge success, 93 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:58,560 and she took me on tour with her, 94 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,080 we sang Confessions Nocturnes together. 95 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,400 I saw Melanie Diam's 96 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,560 the boss, the producer, the writer, 97 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,080 the self-taught woman 98 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,840 and the leader: she led her team and created her show from A to Z, 99 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,440 built her performance, her album, she drove people. 100 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,360 When she entered a studio, no-one would say: 101 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,280 "Sing it like this, tell it like this." 102 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,840 She had all that weight on her shoulders. 103 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,880 Her career was all about her ideas. 104 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,080 It was a meticulous process. 105 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,360 Every word, every gesture, 106 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,680 every move on stage 107 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:44,800 was incredibly, insanely precise, 108 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,080 and I almost wanted to say that even the emotion arrived 109 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,760 at exactly the same minute. 110 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,480 So... 111 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,880 So that was the appearance. 112 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,680 But then there was the return backstage, 113 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,280 where it was often more difficult. 114 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Because too much love, too many emotions, 115 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:17,240 too much energy meant that she often cracked up afterwards. 116 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,360 How long is it since you've been here, Melanie? 117 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,520 12 years... nearly. 118 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,840 11 years. 119 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,200 But... 120 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,360 right now I feel like I'm returning to a country that I'd left. 121 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,760 I mean... 122 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,960 it's really strange. 123 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,720 It's a place you know very well, but to which you've never returned 124 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,440 and that you watch from afar. 125 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,240 I loved being on stage because it was my relationship with people. 126 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,800 When you're an artist who sells a lot of records, 127 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,280 they only tell you about numbers. 128 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,240 They say: "You're number one, 129 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,440 "you've sold 100,000, 200,000, 300,000, 130 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,680 "it's incredible, you sold a million!" 131 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,080 But when you go on stage, you think: 132 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,520 "There are 10,000 people tonight, 10,000 tomorrow, 50,000 yesterday. 133 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:37,840 "In Cameroon there are 100,000, in Senegal 20,000." 134 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,920 They're people, 135 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,160 they're not records sold. 136 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,080 With your name on it. 137 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,120 They'd engraved my name and put diamonds there. 138 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:51,240 It's very kitsch because no-one saw it. 139 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,160 I'd never seen it before. 140 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,600 Can you see it or not? 141 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,640 It sparkles in the light. 142 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,040 - It's all old. - Right. 143 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,240 It's always been at my mother's and I see it every time I come here. 144 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,720 So these trophies, 145 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,680 I found them wrapped up in the basement. 146 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,840 To keep the dust off. 147 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,600 No... 148 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,280 I didn't even know where they were. 149 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,600 I knew you had the Victoires. I'd given them to you. 150 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,760 I knew you had my diamond disc, but not the others. 151 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,720 And there are plenty more 152 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,680 that are in storage. 153 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,520 I found out one day 154 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:47,440 that everything she'd had in France, she also had in Belgium, in Switzerland 155 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,560 or in French-speaking countries, they were everywhere. 156 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,480 I had a lot. 157 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,880 What's that one? 158 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,840 The double gold disc for Brut de femme. 159 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,400 It's funny because seeing them here now, 160 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:08,760 it's like the parallel of my previous life. 161 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,440 It's like an image, a thing. 162 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,640 That's how it is. 163 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,840 It's symbolic, in reality, but... 164 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,480 They're not real diamonds. 165 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,040 But it's as lovely as if they were. 166 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Melanie wasn't random. 167 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,480 As I said, 168 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,760 Melanie is 15 people. 169 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,800 On her tour, how she makes her album, 170 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,160 how she writes and makes records, 171 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,600 everything's thought out. 172 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,320 It wasn't freestyle. 173 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,400 Melanie's not freestyle. 174 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:49,880 That's how I experienced it. 175 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,640 She's a one-woman record company, a label. 176 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,560 She has an entire label in her head, 177 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,400 so... 178 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,080 it wasn't exactly restful. 179 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,040 It says: "Poetry made up by Melanie for Vincent." 180 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,120 That's my uncle, my mother's little brother. 181 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,960 There's The Star, the first one, 182 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,560 Sport... 183 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,440 And IT. 184 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,440 And IT. 185 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,000 "IT is mighty..." 186 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:26,760 It's crap! 187 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,720 "It knows everything, does everything, sees everything. 188 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,280 "It's the hero of our story." 189 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,440 There's no rhyme. 190 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,200 "IT is nothing ordinary. 191 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,720 "You might even think it's imaginary. 192 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,960 "Melanie." 193 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,600 - How old were you then? - I don't know. 194 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,200 I must've been in Year 2. 195 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,600 Very young. 196 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,680 You shared a lot of your pain and experiences in your lyrics. 197 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Was writing an outlet for you? 198 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:58,800 Ever since I was little, 199 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,000 I was carrying a sadness I couldn't explain, 200 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,760 and the older I got, the bigger it became, 201 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,640 until my first suicide attempt at 14. 202 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Soon after that, I found in writing 203 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:18,600 a kind of outlet, of release even. 204 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,280 It was a place where I felt good, 205 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,160 where I said everything that was in my heart, 206 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,560 all my pain and everything. 207 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,600 And the fact that I fell into rap at a very young age, 208 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,920 it... 209 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,720 it became a reason to live, so... 210 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,160 I was writing, people started to like my lyrics. 211 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,800 I started to become a so-called recognised author. 212 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,600 It gave meaning to my life 213 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,320 to see my lyrics resonate in so many hearts. 214 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,920 People kept telling me that it made them feel good, 215 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,520 that they identified with what I wrote. 216 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,400 The problem 217 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:06,400 is that people couldn't see that when writing, 218 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,600 I drew inspiration from suffering. 219 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,160 I remember a discussion we had during that period, 220 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,240 where she said that she could no longer write, 221 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,880 and... 222 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,960 the question of creation, the fear of the blank page, 223 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,480 we talked about all that. 224 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,280 I remember that very well because she said: 225 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,600 "I need to feel bad to write." 226 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,120 I remember it struck me, because for me it's the opposite. 227 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,960 I can't write a line if I don't feel right. 228 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,080 We talked about that and it seemed 229 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,760 painful to me, I thought: "It's sad to have to feel bad 230 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,040 "and almost to put yourself in a bad state 231 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,160 "to be able to do something that makes us feel good." 232 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,520 So I was trying to understand, we had a discussion about that. 233 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,240 I saw her seek happiness in this artist's life, 234 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,360 and I always had the feeling that... 235 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,920 she was stroking the surface of it 236 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,800 and skimming over happiness 237 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,800 without ever attaining it. 238 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,760 And very quickly, I saw a facet of Melanie that left me speechless 239 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,480 because I've toured with her, 240 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,880 and seen her go from euphoria to moments of great sadness 241 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,360 without really understanding why. 242 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,280 I remember she left the stage after an amazing concert, 243 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,720 and I found her alone in a dressing room, in tears. 244 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,640 And I was there in front of her, helpless. 245 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,240 I asked her: "What's going on? What's wrong?" 246 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,680 She couldn't put into words what was happening to her. 247 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,200 Pretty soon, she actually showed me her dark side. 248 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,920 I discovered it one day, 249 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,640 we were having lunch together with other people, 250 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,440 and she... 251 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,240 rolled up her sleeves like that. 252 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,040 And there... 253 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,120 She did it on purpose to show... 254 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,440 And I saw horrible things on her arms, you see? 255 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,360 Throughout lunch I didn't dare say anything, because... 256 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,960 But she wanted to show them to me. 257 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,000 And later I said: "Melanie, what is that?" 258 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,680 She said: "I had a crisis yesterday 259 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,200 "and I cut myself." 260 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,160 "Why are you doing this?" 261 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,240 She said: "I hurt myself 262 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,720 "to exorcise my pain." 263 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,840 And I realised that here was someone 264 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,360 who had a lot of worries, which I hadn't realised before. 265 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,640 And it got worse and worse. 266 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,560 She cut her face 267 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,040 so that it was visible to all. You see? 268 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,480 Basically, she had to show 269 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,360 that her success was not all happiness 270 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,840 and that on the inside, 271 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,680 she was extremely unhappy. 272 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,080 Having given my whole life to rap 273 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,320 and my career, 274 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,240 it took me to the top. 275 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,280 The problem is that at the top, it's cold, you're alone, 276 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,360 there are a lot of wolves around you 277 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,920 and in the end, 278 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,760 you're unhappy. 279 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,520 And the problem is that existential questions were something 280 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,480 I'd had since childhood. 281 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Can you tell me more about that? 282 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,040 From a very young age, I'd been fully aware of death. 283 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,840 I was tortured by the idea that my mother was going to die. 284 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,280 It was like I couldn't accept it. 285 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,720 I'd ask people: "So we live and we'll die." 286 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,120 And they said: "Yeah, that's it, that's life." 287 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,600 "That's how it is, that's life." 288 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,080 I said: "But that can't be life." 289 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,640 "That's not it." 290 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,640 "Like: we live, we suffer, we die." 291 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,920 "We work, we have children, all for that." 292 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,000 And... 293 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,240 later, when I was famous, 294 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,600 when I told people I was unhappy, what did they say? 295 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,920 "Yeah, you're rich, you're famous, what are you complaining about?" 296 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,640 And I always felt as if I were drowning. 297 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Like I was saying to people: 298 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,400 "Help me, please." 299 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,880 "Help!" 300 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,200 And people, by their answer, pushed my head underwater. 301 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,360 And today, that's the advice I always give to people. 302 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,120 If your child or your friend is unhappy, 303 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,760 at least tell them you understand. 304 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,280 That you want to help, 305 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,520 you're going to help, you'll get through it together. 306 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,200 We need that. We need it at times like those. 307 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,760 What were you most afraid of for her as a friend? 308 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,000 It's weird, it upsets me. 309 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,920 I was worried about her getting too lost. 310 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,560 That's what I was worried about. I felt like... 311 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,440 Especially at those times, you feel totally helpless. 312 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,760 I wasn't up to the task. 313 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,960 I felt like I was trying 314 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,240 to bring her back somewhere else, but the current was too strong. 315 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,760 It was the psychiatrist who called me saying: 316 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,520 "We have to intern her." 317 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,480 "She's at her wits' end. We really have to intern her, 318 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,080 "because there's a risk of disaster." 319 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,520 "Apparently you're important to her, 320 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,240 "and she asked me to call you." 321 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,680 "OK, doctor, but what do I do?" 322 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,040 So in January 2008, I was interned 323 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,480 in a psychiatric clinic in the suburbs of Paris. 324 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,000 That was the start of the nightmare. 325 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,000 A few months before, on stage in front of 50,000 people at festivals, 326 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,720 you're... 327 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,480 You're Diam's! 328 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,280 And you find yourself in a small room, a small hospital room. 329 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Everything is taken from you: your phone, 330 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,560 they cut you off from the world, you're not allowed many visitors. 331 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,760 And they leave you alone in the room. 332 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,920 You wonder: "OK, so when are you going to come and help me?" 333 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,080 And sometimes machines are stuck to your head, 334 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,840 trying to see how your brain is doing. 335 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,280 They want you to talk. It was important that I speak. 336 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,920 Except that 337 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,080 you quickly realise that talking to a shrink for 20 minutes 338 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,480 is not going to save you. 339 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,480 And if even 340 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,520 the brain specialists couldn't do anything for me, 341 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,320 I think that in my head, I gave up a little 342 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,080 and I remember that after the clinic, I started hurting myself again. 343 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,720 And when the nurses saw that, they said: "No, that's it, stop." 344 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,840 And so they turned me off. 345 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,240 They turned me off, 346 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,640 by which I mean they gave me lots of pills. 347 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,520 Lots of pills, from morning to night. 348 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,720 I fell into what I call the hell of drugs. 349 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,000 It's an infernal spiral. 350 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,160 Why are you crying? 351 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Why are you crying? 352 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Because it was a very difficult period, very... 353 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,880 It was very hard because... 354 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,800 the two times I went to see her, 355 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,800 her behaviour changed, 356 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,760 even in just one hour, 357 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,440 when she went from laughing to crying, 358 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,600 from hope... 359 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,560 to sadness. 360 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,040 And I had trouble recognising her, even physically. 361 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,720 Her eyes were empty, 362 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,560 as if she didn't want to live anymore. 363 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,320 I came out of the psychiatric hospital with a diagnosis that I was bipolar. 364 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:01,920 I had to take nine pills a day, 365 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,400 and I'd be on medication for the rest of my life. 366 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,160 I actually hated seeing myself like that so much, 367 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,120 and realising that Diam's was over. 368 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:19,440 I mean, I wasn't going to continue making music being like that. 369 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,720 I gave up everything and said: "Well that's it, it's useless." 370 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,680 And I attempted suicide. 371 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,880 It was... 372 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,520 "Here I am at the height of my glory, and people think everything's fine." 373 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,920 I looked happy, at any rate. 374 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,160 There's no denying. That's my little brother. 375 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,040 You wonder how you can switch to being so sad. 376 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:55,440 When you see me like that, I'm so happy, everything's fine. 377 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,160 You really think the adult world is cruel. 378 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,040 I think of my children, too. 379 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,480 I see them, they're carefree, 380 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,440 they're all cute, then... 381 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,560 What's going to happen next? 382 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,040 Only God knows. 383 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,760 I hope it will go well for them. 384 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,080 It's not easy being a young person now. It's not easy being a parent. 385 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,200 It's not easy. 386 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,560 With every passing day, I sank further. 387 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Like the feeling of getting bogged down 388 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,480 and of falling endlessly. 389 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,560 People were singing and taking pictures of me. 390 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,440 The music was loud, so loud. 391 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,880 It stifled the cry of my soul which was screaming "Help". 392 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,560 Everyone was dancing, singing. 393 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,280 The room was full, yet for me, 394 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,680 everything was empty. 395 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,400 Empty like this life I was leading. 396 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,640 Meaningless, surrounded by people hungry 397 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,320 for money, girls, stupid debates. 398 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,480 I was empty but I was pretending, 399 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,400 pretending to be fine. 400 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,840 But I was losing my mind more and more. 401 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,480 I took more and more pills. 402 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,120 I hurt myself more and more, 403 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,760 and then I thought about death more and more but I said nothing. 404 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,800 I kept pretending. 405 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,480 Sometimes I wondered 406 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,360 how many of us were pretending? 407 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,520 They told me: "Melanie, that's life!" 408 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,240 "Rap or shut up!" 409 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,160 "Stop thinking, write and then forget!" 410 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,360 "Melanie, that's life!" 411 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:43,920 Yeah, but... 412 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,760 the pain, here in my heart, what do I do with that? 413 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,560 And the madness in my head? 414 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,040 Am I crazy, or is everyone crazy? 415 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,040 I was one of those who had a heart, yeah. 416 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,160 And we were not the strong ones. 417 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,360 To be on the side of the winners, you must rejoice in those who fail. 418 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,880 I was not like that. 419 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,800 I'd rather die than be like that. 420 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,480 Better to die than be like them. 421 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,280 Dying is better. 422 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600 I was told: "Raise your hands to the sky." 423 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,560 "Ask." 424 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,120 So I prayed. 425 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,240 I prayed that everything would end, 426 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,000 that I could finally find peace. 427 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,760 Because in reality, 428 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,640 that's all I wanted. 429 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,200 I wanted peace. 430 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,520 From August on, 431 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,200 I saw someone, 432 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,080 a shrink who came to my house, a psychiatrist I believe, 433 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,320 who came to my house once or twice a week 434 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,720 and who helped me to reduce my medication. 435 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,920 And that's important 436 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840 because I think that, unconsciously, 437 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,640 I became myself again. 438 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,520 The meds numbed me so much. 439 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,880 I was in a bad place, 440 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,800 I hung out with the wrong people, did bad things, made bad choices, 441 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,320 so that all of a sudden... 442 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,040 I think that subconsciously, having fewer drugs in my body, 443 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,040 maybe that's what made me want to pass my driving test, 444 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,840 have fun with Charlotte, do things that I no longer did. 445 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,880 I laughed a lot with Charlotte. I really liked Charlotte because 446 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,200 she took me out of my world a bit, because she had so many problems 447 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,280 that we didn't talk about me. 448 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,840 And it suited me because I had nothing to say, 449 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,560 I was numb, my life was... 450 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:14,080 empty, 451 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,240 and Charlotte's stories... 452 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,320 were something else. 453 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,040 So it did me a lot of good to be with Charlotte. 454 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,360 And so one day we had a visit from her friend Soussou, 455 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,280 whom I knew well. 456 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,800 She came often, she was Charlotte's best friend. 457 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560 And then very... 458 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,360 really naturally while we were eating, she said: "I'm going to pray." 459 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,480 And really, it was crazy because it... 460 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:50,320 She said a word that I think I really needed at that time. 461 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,920 It's like you want to get closer to God, but you don't know how. 462 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,160 And the word "prayer", at that point in my life, didn't exist. 463 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,600 It didn't exist. The Muslims I knew only did Ramadan. 464 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,920 I never knew anyone who prayed. 465 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,400 And then she said: "I'm going to pray." 466 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,080 And I told her: "I'd like to pray with you." 467 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,120 I remember it like it was yesterday. 468 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,280 And yet, I hadn't yet read the Holy Qurân. 469 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:23,520 And it was... 470 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,600 It was my place. It was where I needed to be. 471 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,320 This was where I needed to be. 472 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,080 And I remember there was only time for a short prayer, 473 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,560 because she was going about her life afterwards. 474 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,040 But in that place, with my forehead resting on the ground, 475 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,640 I wanted to relive it immediately. 476 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,080 It was like: "I need to learn to pray, I need to pray." 477 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120 I was baptised by my parents. 478 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,200 I did my communion alone. I asked to be confirmed. 479 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,320 I went to catechism at school, 480 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,320 I took lessons, etc, but... 481 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,800 I didn't find clear answers to my existential questions. 482 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,000 Because it wasn't just a spiritual quest, it was existential. 483 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,000 As I told you, I see faith as this flame 484 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,240 that, as the years pass, goes out, 485 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440 and a lot of people I meet 486 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,240 say: "When I was younger, I was more religious than I am now." 487 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,160 At some point in the transition to adult life, you lose yourself... 488 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,080 Well, it's my career! 489 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,400 - It ate up your life. - I didn't have time. 490 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,200 I didn't have time to think about all that. 491 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,960 And ten days later we were due to go to Mauritius, 492 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,440 and I remember I thought: 493 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,480 "I kind of learned Christianity and so on 494 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,080 "in the past, I'd taken classes, 495 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,040 "but I don't know anything about the Muslim religion." 496 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,440 "I pray 497 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,600 "like Muslims, you bow down." 498 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,440 "I'm going to Mauritius 499 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,400 "and I'm going to find books on religion, to learn about Islam." 500 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,040 And that's how I went to buy... 501 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,280 I went with my grandmother in the north. 502 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,120 We always come back to those who raised us. 503 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,840 And I went with her, 504 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,920 she was a Christian and she let me buy the books. 505 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,800 And I said: "What do you think I should get?" 506 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,600 And I got one on Ramadan, 507 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,320 a book about the pilgrimage, which we'd talked about. 508 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,600 - You had lots of books and... - A book on faith. 509 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,240 And... Well, yeah... 510 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,160 The Qurân, but... 511 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,640 I only remember you with the Qurân over there. 512 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,920 Actually the Qurân, 513 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680 it's strange to say it, but I took it, 514 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760 but I didn't think it was the one I wanted to read. 515 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,360 I wanted to find out first. 516 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,640 We arrived in Mauritius, we were so happy to be there. 517 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,960 We were Tic and Tac, those were our nicknames. 518 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,400 - It was our holiday. - Our dream holiday. 519 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,160 So the first few days, I read about Ramadan, the pilgrimage. 520 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,520 I remember you were fascinated, and you said: "I'd like to go." 521 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,600 And a book on faith. 522 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,600 And in each of those books, 523 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,880 there were verses from the Qurân. 524 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,200 - So I thought... - Everything led back... 525 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360 I thought: "I'm going to have to open the book 526 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,600 "that seems central 527 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,720 "to Muslims and read it, what is this book?" 528 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,840 Can you tell me about the first time you opened the Qurân? 529 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,920 There was a little light, I remember. 530 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,440 There was a little light. 531 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,600 It was dark, the same skyline. 532 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,400 The stars, 533 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,080 the beach. 534 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,720 A boom-boom-boom over there, there was a party going on. 535 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,080 I sat there, Charlotte... 536 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,800 "I'm here, I'm not here," 537 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,640 doing her own thing. 538 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,000 I went to sit down, I read. 539 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,840 I opened the book 540 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,920 without any knowledge, without anything. I opened it. 541 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,280 And I read. 542 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,160 I started reading. 543 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,400 "In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful." 544 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,240 "All praise is due to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, 545 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,280 "the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful." 546 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,880 I read that, I found it very beautiful, I continued. 547 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,040 But very naturally. 548 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,280 I continued. 549 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,360 I read. 550 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,800 And... 551 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,120 very early... 552 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,840 in the book, 553 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,760 I read 554 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,440 about Adam. 555 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,200 I read about... 556 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,120 Satan. 557 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,600 I read about heaven. 558 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,600 I read about the children of Israel. 559 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,400 I read about Moses. 560 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,320 And... 561 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,360 I thought: "Wait." 562 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,040 There were words that were familiar to me. 563 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,560 Heaven was familiar. 564 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,680 Mercy... 565 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,360 It spoke to me. I think Christians often talked about it, 566 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,960 so it rang a bell. 567 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:56,960 But... 568 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,960 reading about Moses and the children of Israel, 569 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,040 I didn't understand. 570 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,680 Judaism, Christianity and Islam, 571 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,320 these were the three religions I heard about all the time, 572 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,440 and I don't know why, for me, they were 573 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,920 in opposition, you see? 574 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,600 I didn't imagine for a moment 575 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,120 that the Muslims believed in Jesus and in Moses. 576 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,960 I could never have believed that. 577 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,040 I wouldn't say that I was obsessed with it, 578 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,160 but I think that naturally, since my brain never stops, 579 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,760 at that moment, I wanted to understand 580 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,840 why there are all these prophets. 581 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,760 As I kept reading... 582 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600 And above all, I found it beautiful. 583 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,000 Because I understood that they are all united. 584 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,160 That in fact 585 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,480 they all delivered the same message. 586 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,560 You understand that very quickly when you read it. 587 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,880 And then their lives are detailed. 588 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,920 And I enjoyed reading about them, so that drew me in. 589 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,200 I thought it was beautiful. 590 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,800 All of a sudden, it's as if... 591 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,400 there's no-one else on Earth 592 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:20,240 who had a more beautiful story than the one about Moses. 593 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,360 And so I think the first night I read maybe not a hundred pages, 594 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:26,960 but quite a lot. 595 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,400 I came in, and I didn't realise it, but it did me good. 596 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,960 The next evening, 597 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,000 I couldn't wait to go and read. 598 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,440 I wanted to continue, I wanted to understand. 599 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,760 And so I did that for two or three nights. 600 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960 And read, I think, 601 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,240 almost a hundred pages a night. 602 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,000 And there were a lot of verses that mentioned creation. 603 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,600 I say "verses" but back then I said: "I read things about..." 604 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,640 And that's when, 605 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,840 for the first time in my life, 606 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,680 I started to contemplate what was around me, 607 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,160 and no longer wondering why it was there. 608 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,480 I was just observing, actually. 609 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,640 And I was there, 610 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,560 looking at the sky 611 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:37,800 and by the grace of Allah, I was in Mauritius, can you imagine? 612 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,800 So everything I was reading about... 613 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,320 the sea was in front of me. 614 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,160 The heavens... I mean... 615 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,400 the stars, the planets, the Moon, 616 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,000 it was in front of me. 617 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,120 The mountains were just behind me. 618 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,520 The fish were there. 619 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,800 The boats were passing by. 620 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,280 It was a tsunami in my heart, in my body, in my head. 621 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,080 It was inexplicable. 622 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:17,600 The last few nights, I even slept there, on the lounger. 623 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,800 Why? Because I thought: 624 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,000 "If God really exists, as I'm feeling it, 625 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,480 "everything will change." 626 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,920 And I remember waking up with a start, 627 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,560 looking at the Moon 628 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,800 and thinking: 629 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,400 "He's the creator of the Moon." 630 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,000 It's like someone who marvels at a painting 631 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,960 and then marvels at its painter, because... 632 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,880 Well, I suddenly marvelled at creation, 633 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,320 and I marvelled at its creator. 634 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,880 And so I thought: "I have to finish, 635 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,480 "and above all I have to admit that it's doing me good 636 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,400 "and that I'm better for reading it." 637 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,040 I was finding the answers to all my questions. 638 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:20,880 Suddenly I understood that nothing exists by chance, 639 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,360 that there is a creator in everything. 640 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,960 I read that 641 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,960 to be a believer is to do good, 642 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,000 to be a good person, 643 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,880 to give alms, to help orphans, 644 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,680 to be good to your mother, to your father. 645 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,680 It's being grateful, being patient, having endurance. 646 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,960 It was only things that spoke to me. I thought: "Yes, 647 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,520 "it must be wonderful to be pious." 648 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,960 And suddenly, 649 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,920 it was as if my life, which had no meaning, 650 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,120 took on 651 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,360 an immense meaning. 652 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,240 I'll have so many things to do, I who had nothing left to do. 653 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,640 I was going to have a lot to do. 654 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,320 And the first thing I was going to do 655 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,480 was convert to Islam. 656 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:24,240 And so I went out. 657 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,720 I remember, I went to the beach. 658 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,880 It wasn't nighttime, it was light. 659 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,600 And I remember that very naively 660 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,160 or very normally, 661 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,720 I looked up to the sky 662 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,120 and I spoke to God. 663 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:49,000 And I said: "O Allah, 664 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,720 "there are no witnesses, 665 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,880 "but You are The Witness 666 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,680 "and I only need You in the end." 667 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,120 "And I will say the attestation of faith and I will become a Muslim." 668 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,000 I looked naturally to the sky and said... 669 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,480 And then I said it in French. 670 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,640 I said in French: 671 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,880 "I bear witness that there is nothing worthy of being worshipped except Allah, 672 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,840 "and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah." 673 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,200 And I was very happy. 674 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,720 I was really happy. 675 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:47,520 I was really happy. 676 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,600 And I've never stopped being happy 677 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:53,920 since that day. 678 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,360 I've experienced hardships, I've experienced things, 679 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,840 and life is not always easy. 680 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,600 But I was no longer alone. 681 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,160 And I remember that the very next day, 682 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:24,440 I actually wrote a plan. 683 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,040 I sat down and I wrote. 684 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,360 I wrote: "Call my mother, 685 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,000 "change number, 686 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,960 "notify my loved ones, 687 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,200 "write my last album." 688 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,040 It was very clear to me that I had to leave that environment. 689 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,560 "No more talking to journalists and the media," 690 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:45,840 because I'd have been unable to explain what had happened to me. 691 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,040 It was so crazy, so... 692 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,960 It had happened so suddenly. 693 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,320 "Open an association or foundation that I'll call Big Up Project 694 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,560 "and which will help orphans." 695 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,480 I remember I wrote that I wanted to read a lot. 696 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,400 I really wanted to learn more and more. 697 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,920 And travel a lot. 698 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,720 I wanted to see the world, 699 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,320 I wanted to contemplate creation. 700 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,760 And do only good. 701 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,080 I had written: "Do only good, 702 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,040 "good, good, good." 703 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,200 But above all, 704 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,680 I wanted to do all that 705 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,520 without ever saying publicly 706 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,960 that I had converted to Islam. 707 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,640 That was my secret. 708 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,760 And I was summoned. 709 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,200 And she told me everything at the same time. 710 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,360 And... 711 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,600 I was happy. 712 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,680 When you had a daughter who almost killed herself multiple times, 713 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,320 who was tired of life 714 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,400 when she had everything: she was pretty, rich, 715 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,440 she was successful, she was adored, she was... 716 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,280 What more could you want? And she was unhappy. 717 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:04,120 So if she had found a way to achieve serenity, peace 718 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,840 and to feel good about herself, so much the better. 719 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,960 The moment when Melanie converted to Islam and called me, 720 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,480 on her return from her stay in Mauritius, 721 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,360 I remember it very well. 722 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,800 And I cried on the phone. I was really moved. 723 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,280 I was immediately overjoyed because I thought... 724 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,840 she'd found the answers. 725 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,120 That was very clear. 726 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,400 When she told me on the phone 727 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,560 that she'd just converted, she was really enthusiastic, really... 728 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,240 We met very soon, 729 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,280 the same day in fact, 730 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,840 and I suggested taking her to see my mum. 731 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,640 I told my mum: "I'm overjoyed." And my mother, 732 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,640 who loves Melanie, said: "Bring her home, we'll welcome her." 733 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,480 So she came with me to see my mother. 734 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,800 And my mother gave her some dates and a glass of milk, 735 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,720 and said: "Welcome to Islam", as if Islam was our little flat! 736 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,840 But it was a really friendly moment, really warm. 737 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,640 We hugged her, 738 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,320 it was beautiful, very moving. 739 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,800 In this shock photo, rapper Diam's is wearing a veil. 740 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,680 She's going to answer by rapping... 741 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,480 A Paris-Match photographer... 742 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,960 Diam's wearing a veil, 743 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,960 it's like a betrayal... 744 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,520 It's not voluntary 745 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:27,000 I don't understand her choice... 746 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,400 In a surprise development, 747 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,160 she was photographed leaving a mosque. 748 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,360 It seems Diam's has converted to Islam. 749 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,640 And then it all kicked off. 750 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,880 It was war. 751 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,600 That is to say that... 752 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,680 I think that I was called by all the media 753 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,120 in France, 754 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,040 Belgium, Switzerland, Canada, Africa... 755 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,120 everywhere. 756 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,440 My phone never stopped. 757 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,520 "We want to talk to her, what's going on?" 758 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,720 And I didn't answer! 759 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,080 It was terrible. I said: "She has nothing to say to you!" 760 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:08,480 That's all. 761 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,640 Obviously we sued Paris-Match, because... 762 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,080 it was a stolen photo and it was private, 763 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,320 she was coming out of a mosque. 764 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,880 "Stop calling me, she won't talk!" 765 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680 - "But will you talk?" - "No, I won't." 766 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,400 There was an explosion 767 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,720 in the community and in the media, because... 768 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,840 there were some people for whom 769 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,840 it was a sign of madness. 770 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,920 Why does it suddenly... 771 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,560 become a sign of madness to have faith 772 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:50,640 and find peace in a place of worship? 773 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,200 Because Melanie - in fact, 774 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,040 artists in general, but Melanie in particular - 775 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,440 was a barometer of society. 776 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,920 She spoke about what her generation were going through. 777 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,080 And so it raises questions in France. 778 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,920 Because... 779 00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:12,760 I think... 780 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,840 with the veil, 781 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,360 she also represents a lot of people 782 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,640 who don't speak or are not seen. 783 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,680 So she continued to be the barometer of society 784 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,880 and to ask France questions. 785 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,800 "If I wear the veil and I am a Muslim, what happens?" 786 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,800 An incredible controversy. 787 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,400 She went from France's favourite personality 788 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,080 to the most criticised artist. 789 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:52,480 It was very hard for me to see that because she didn't deserve it. 790 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,200 And I think she had a lot of trouble getting her head above water 791 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,720 and accepting the situation. It was very hard. 792 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,240 I feel guilty. 793 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,520 But of what in the end? 794 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,720 Guilty of choosing life over death? 795 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,440 Guilty of being alive, right? 796 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,120 What if I had picked up a gun? 797 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,840 If I had emptied the syringe? 798 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,600 Would I have become a hero? 799 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,000 I'm wondering. 800 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,440 Who should I follow? 801 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,240 They love me when I tell them that dying inspires me, 802 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,000 I would have to die to write better. 803 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,720 But I prefer to live, too bad. 804 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,400 Who are the heroes? Who? 805 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,920 Their idols dead from heroin? 806 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,200 Or the pseudo leaders 807 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,960 who panic the algorithms on the day of their suicide? 808 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,600 No, thanks! I want the real, not the illusory! 809 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,400 I'm done with these false hopes, these false victories! 810 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,840 The pit is black with people, but the heart is also black. 811 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,120 What gossip. 812 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,720 What headlines, what big stories. 813 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,960 And then there's me in all of this. And then there's you. 814 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,480 You do not recognise yourself in any of this. 815 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,080 You who dream of being stable, not of being a star. 816 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,960 You who dream of being wise, 817 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,400 but who are laughed at for being... 818 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,000 different. 819 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,760 Too bad. 820 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600 If we never become heroes 821 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,200 while we're alive. 822 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,240 Too bad. 823 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,240 Different. 824 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,040 Different. 825 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,240 As long as we're alive. 826 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,680 We "like" each other but do we really love each other? 827 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,360 We "like" each other but do we really love each other? 828 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,400 How did it feel seeing that photo in Paris-Match? 829 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,240 It was a shock because it was a really private moment in my life. 830 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,080 It was like you're on a journey, 831 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:23,960 you're a work in progress 832 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,520 and these are things you don't want to show. 833 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,720 You're unsure, you're groping. 834 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,120 "Am I ready to veil up or not?" 835 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,160 "Am I able to pray, am I not able?" 836 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,520 You're looking for yourself, but people categorise you 837 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,320 and say: "She's veiled!" 838 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,280 You really have to experience it to believe it. 839 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,080 People who smile at you in the morning, 840 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:49,720 and in the evening they don't even know if they should talk to you. 841 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,280 They no longer pick up the phone. 842 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,840 Brands, overnight, say: "Yes, we're sorry, 843 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,440 "the partnership we were meant to have may be..." 844 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,160 And you say: "Is it because of Paris-Match?" 845 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,800 It's crazy that I could be accused of... 846 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,440 showing myself veiled 847 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,360 when it was they who stole that photo. 848 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,560 You understand? It's crazy because I was being judged in the public arena. 849 00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:20,800 I really felt I was being thrown to the lions. 850 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,120 That's what happened. It was very violent. 851 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,160 And so... 852 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,720 today, I think: "Did you forget the story?" 853 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,960 That's why I'm happy to be able to tell the story. 854 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,800 And what made me sad... 855 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:38,720 Because there's anger... 856 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,440 because someone stole something from my private life, that's clear. 857 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,320 But that's manageable. 858 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,640 It doesn't matter if you're a little upset. 859 00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:51,960 But more than that, 860 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,520 it was really about the people who loved me. 861 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,360 I knew they were going 862 00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:03,320 to destroy the love that there was between me and the public. 863 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,960 That's what really hurt me. 864 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,640 But at the same time, as I said... 865 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:21,920 it was necessary. 866 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,080 It was necessary, because for the first time in my life, 867 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:28,840 I was able to accept that I was Muslim. 868 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,520 Yes, I wanted to wear a veil. 869 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,920 I wanted to stop making music. 870 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,880 I was tired of it. 871 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,840 I wanted nothing more to do with that scene. 872 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,000 I'm not judging who's in it, but I wanted out. 873 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,320 And I think what hurt me the most 874 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,480 was seeing... 875 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,480 the gauges... 876 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,840 emptying a bit. 877 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,960 Because that's kind of what happened. 878 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,480 You sell fewer records, 879 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,120 so there are fewer people at the concerts. 880 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,920 But there is a group that is there. 881 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,480 And those... 882 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,440 I will be forever grateful to them. 883 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,560 And I swear that I don't hate those who no longer loved me at that time. 884 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,320 Many people write to me saying: "I was angry with you for stopping." 885 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,840 "I thought you were a traitor, you were indoctrinated." 886 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,960 People were very hard, you know? 887 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,560 But I don't blame them. 888 00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,400 I even understand them. 889 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,520 I understand them and I have forgiven everyone. 890 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,760 But... 891 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,200 it was very hard. 892 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,600 However, my faith soared. 893 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,200 After the scandal, I really needed to leave. 894 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,000 I needed to get away from it all, to travel, far away. 895 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,120 And I felt good. 896 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,840 I gazed at the expanse of the Earth 897 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,840 and thought again of the narrow-mindedness of some. 898 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,320 To leave one world is meeting other different ones 899 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,880 with different visions of life that are enriching. 900 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,400 The world is wide, but our hearts are wider. 901 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,360 And if at the start I needed that immense spectacle, 902 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,480 those large expanses, 903 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,280 with the years I learned, even in the city, 904 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,880 to raise my eyes to the sky, to gaze at the Moon. 905 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,960 I knew it was time to put down the mic and move towards this new life, 906 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,760 to build myself, enrich myself with my loved ones. 907 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,120 Take time for them. 908 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,920 Go to meet the orphans. 909 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,960 Try to realise the dream of seeing the Big Up Project grow. 910 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,680 Even if I had to do it alone. 911 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,240 And even if I was aware that it would not be easy 912 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,880 to turn my back on all those privileges, 913 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,320 on all that glory, on that money, 914 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,680 I felt that I was ready, and that 915 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,400 even for millions, I wouldn't have given up on this peace that I'd found. 916 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,000 And since God was protecting me, I wasn't afraid, no. 917 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,240 I was ready. 918 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,360 As Salam'Alaykum, Mum. 919 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,200 I love hyenas so much. Hyenas are so beautiful. 920 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,040 Some people don't like them, but I like them. 921 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,680 My baby, 922 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,240 my daughter. 923 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,320 Love you! 924 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,160 I forgot to ask how you are. 925 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,560 When you're platinum, gold, diamond, 926 00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:41,920 and have Victoires de la Musique or whatever, 927 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,520 I don't know what the trophies she won are, 928 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,400 it's powerful 929 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,160 to make that decision. No-one does it. 930 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,200 It takes courage. 931 00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,120 It's a choice that was, in my opinion, very tricky for her, 932 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,600 very difficult to go through. 933 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,240 And the fact of choosing to help her and her charity, 934 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,320 maybe at that time she still had doubts. 935 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,200 Because it's easy to say: "I'm going to quit", but to do so is difficult. 936 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,440 CHILDREN FIRST 937 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,240 Oh, look that's it, they did it! 938 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,120 I'm overwhelmed. 939 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,600 Thank God! 940 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,360 Thank God, thank God, thank God! 941 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,480 I have one finger for everyone. 942 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,800 You take a finger, you take a finger. 943 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,520 Take this one! You take this one. 944 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,640 Another take another. You took two! 945 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,560 And another one. One more. There's one finger left. 946 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,000 Who wants to take this one? You? 947 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,160 Ah that's it, it's behind me! 948 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,240 Look: that's it, good, five! 949 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,080 When I converted to Islam, 950 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,040 I discovered the importance of orphans 951 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,920 in the Holy Book, 952 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,240 and I realised 953 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,240 that I didn't know any orphans, 954 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,240 that I never really paid attention 955 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,440 to orphans, 956 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,360 and at that time in my life, I really wanted to meet them. 957 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,440 So naturally, 958 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,520 I turned to the countries that I already knew, 959 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,240 as I went there regularly for the music. 960 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,360 So I went to almost all the countries 961 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,320 where I'd done big concerts 962 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,760 to bring back the money I'd taken from those concerts. 963 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,840 And, strange as it may seem to say it, 964 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,360 Mali was not a country 965 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,920 to which I'd come to sing, 966 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,320 but since it was next to Senegal and that I'd always heard about it, 967 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,000 I thought: "Hey, let's go to Mali." 968 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,040 I landed among people of a certain age 969 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,720 who have become heroes in my eyes. 970 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,840 When you're with a lady like Fatoumata 971 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,920 or other people I've met, you're a little ashamed 972 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,000 to be known for what you do. 973 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,720 You think: "What am I doing to be known?" 974 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,240 I hold a microphone, I sing, I write lyrics, 975 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,720 while they are unknown, but what they do 976 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,840 is so much more honourable! 977 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,920 You start putting things into perspective. 978 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,800 This is for Auntie. 979 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,560 It's for Auntie. 980 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,600 Yes, it's for you! Oh, yes! 981 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,400 Thank you, thank you! 982 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,360 I didn't serve you first, I'm sorry. 983 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,400 No, no. The children come first. 984 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,520 That's enough for me. 985 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,080 - Who's kindest to the donkey? - The goat! 986 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,560 The goat's there! 987 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,840 That's the goat. 988 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,640 The goat's there. The hens are there. 989 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,160 The cat's there. 990 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,880 And who's kindest to the hens? 991 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,400 If you're nice to the donkey and the goat, you can have two! 992 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:13,800 I'm grown up now. 993 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,760 Even after a hundred years, I'll still recognise you. 994 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,280 I was young before! 995 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,800 - You were very young. - Yes. 996 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,200 You're taller than me. 997 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,360 I'm old. Your life is starting. 998 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,640 Watermelon, look! 999 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,880 I'm so happy. 1000 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,840 Seeing everything that has been done. It's amazing. 1001 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,240 There was nothing before. Nothing at all. 1002 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,840 Fatoumata used to say: "Here we'll do this! 1003 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,320 "There we'll do that." 1004 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:45,960 And I was like: 1005 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,360 "OK." 1006 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,720 Now look at this huge orphanage. A lovely house. 1007 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,160 You have a lovely house. How many bedrooms is it? 1008 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,560 Too many. 1009 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,920 That's great! A lot. 1010 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,880 And you don't get lost? 1011 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,040 Too many is better. In Kalaban Coura, was it? 1012 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,240 Yes. 1013 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,200 In Kalaban Coura there was one room. 1014 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,120 For all of you. 1015 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,600 - Everyone in one room. - Yes. 1016 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,640 And now you say there are too many rooms! 1017 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,320 Too big. 1018 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,200 Hold on! 1019 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,080 For me, meeting an orphan, 1020 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,160 I'm honoured to meet them, I think, 1021 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,240 "What an amazing story yours is." 1022 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,920 "What an amazing story yours is." 1023 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,600 I find it very moving. 1024 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,120 Even if I'm on the other side of the world, I'll think of you. 1025 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,440 I will always try 1026 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,360 to look after the orphanage and try to find people. 1027 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,680 In sha Allah, we'll do lots of things. 1028 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:24,720 Tell Fatoumata to ask me if there are things the orphanage needs. 1029 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,320 Can you go into town for things? 1030 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,600 You can? 1031 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,360 When you're older, if you travel, 1032 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,440 you can come and see me. 1033 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,040 Shall we see the school? 1034 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:39,720 Is it far? 1035 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,600 It's nearby? We can take the moped. 1036 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,640 I'll come with you on the moped. 1037 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,800 Yeah. Let's go. 1038 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,720 Come on. 1039 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,520 This infant, 1040 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,840 who was abandoned, 1041 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,160 needs to be looked after until they're 18. 1042 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,160 Sometimes longer, if they don't want to leave the nest. 1043 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,240 That's 18 years, 1044 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,600 365 days when they need to eat, be dressed, 1045 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,120 sleep properly, 1046 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,880 go to school, 1047 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,160 be looked after, cared for, 1048 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:40,960 and blossom. 1049 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,040 You can't just turn up once and fix the problem! No! 1050 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,360 One word I've learned from my contact with orphanages 1051 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,800 is the word "durability". It's not a word I knew before 1052 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,200 visiting certain countries. 1053 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,440 I thought you came once, gave some money 1054 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,800 and sorted the problem. 1055 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,440 It's not like that. 1056 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:08,120 We've been working with Fatoumata for 10 years, 1057 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,120 hand in hand, trying to make sure 1058 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,920 they have what they need to run the orphanage every month. 1059 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,760 As Salam'Alaykum. 1060 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,080 Al Hamdoulillah. 1061 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:43,880 We'd like to buy some bikes. 1062 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,600 - This one's for a four-year-old. - Is it new? 1063 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:49,480 That's great. 1064 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,400 It's difficult when you ask for donations, 1065 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:04,040 when you explain what it means to support an orphanage. 1066 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,480 People think that building a football pitch, 1067 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,200 or buying bicycles 1068 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,800 doesn't constitute a necessity. 1069 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,800 They won't give money for that. 1070 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:22,280 But you soon realise that making children blossom, 1071 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,800 their... how shall I put it... 1072 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,680 That's what brings children joy. 1073 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,920 We consider it essential that our own children 1074 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,520 do sport and activities, 1075 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,840 but don't see it as necessary for orphanages. 1076 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,040 For me, that's... 1077 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:48,120 If people won't support Big Up, I'll finance it myself. 1078 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,200 I think we're going wrong by only thinking big. 1079 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,040 And dismissing the small, 1080 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,640 small actions. 1081 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,480 You might not achieve your dream 1082 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,600 of opening an orphanage and looking after 50 children. 1083 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,560 You didn't have the courage, 1084 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,440 or maybe you had children and couldn't do it. 1085 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,960 That dream isn't achievable. 1086 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,160 But there are others, which are smaller. 1087 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,680 And I think 1088 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,360 what maybe saved me when I came here, 1089 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,440 what made me continue, 1090 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,840 was that I understood 1091 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,680 that even a little was good. 1092 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,000 Even a little. I was caught unawares 1093 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,000 when I saw the reality on the ground. 1094 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,480 I thought: "I don't have the money, I can't build a hospital." 1095 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,360 "I can't, I can't." 1096 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,640 I can't, so I don't do anything? 1097 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,440 I can dig a well. 1098 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,680 I can bring, I don't know, 1099 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,560 someone who can be a link between here and me in France, 1100 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,760 and tell them to visit Fatoumata 1101 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,920 and see if she needs anything. 1102 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,280 You can do that. 1103 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,280 We were able to do more, Al Hamdoulillah, 1104 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,520 but that's what I said to myself. 1105 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,640 It might not be a large NGO, 1106 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,840 but it will be great, In Sha Allah. 1107 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,640 Aziz! 1108 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,680 You've got a tricycle? 1109 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:55,920 Al Hamdoulillah. 1110 01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,200 It's brand-new. I have the documents. 1111 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:02,600 He's happy. 1112 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,280 One huge lesson I've learnt from meeting orphans 1113 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,680 is that I'd look at them and think, 1114 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,720 "They've never had a mum, 1115 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:24,640 "they've never had a dad who loved them, looked after them." 1116 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,840 And I suddenly realised 1117 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,120 that having a father and mother was an honour. 1118 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,040 I had a father 1119 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,480 whom I didn't see, with whom I'd fallen out, 1120 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,360 over nothing really. 1121 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,600 I really wanted to get in touch with my father. 1122 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,760 To start with a clean slate and move on. 1123 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,640 To live in the moment. 1124 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,160 Blaming him for the past meant not enjoying the present. 1125 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,720 Meeting my father again was a great moment in my life. 1126 01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,680 Seeing him with my children, he's a wonderful grandfather 1127 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,520 and a great father. 1128 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,560 I'm lucky to have him. 1129 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,440 When you took the pushchair, you took Maryam. 1130 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:13,120 Then you took to the road. You went to see the horses. 1131 01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,360 Yes, all the time. 1132 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,400 - Do you remember? - Every morning... 1133 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,520 Every morning, I was out 1134 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,560 with Maryam for two hours. 1135 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,040 Then you went to see the Smurfs' houses. 1136 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,040 Oh, yes. And the forest. 1137 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,680 We liked going to the forest. 1138 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,200 And you told her stories. 1139 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:37,640 Yes. 1140 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,520 It was an adventure. 1141 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,240 Like Robin Hood. 1142 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,960 Happy memories. 1143 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,040 You want me to speak French? 1144 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,720 Because it makes you laugh. 1145 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:05,120 It makes me laugh when you talk in French. 1146 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,400 It's very cute, you know. 1147 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,520 You speak French very well. 1148 01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:15,280 Really? 1149 01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:16,200 Yes. 1150 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,560 You're the only one who says that. 1151 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,040 It's only Maryam who says Papou can't speak French. 1152 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,640 I know. 1153 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,800 Because you tell Maryam: 1154 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,640 "Everything misses me." 1155 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,600 Yes! 1156 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:38,880 She says 1157 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,320 I speak Anglo-French and Greek. 1158 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,760 "Anglo-French-Greek". 1159 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,200 I hope we'll see each other this summer 1160 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,040 and we'll spend a lot of time together. 1161 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,240 Like last summer, it was nice. 1162 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,080 Yes, we had a very good time. 1163 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:01,920 Beautiful. 1164 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,240 In Morocco. 1165 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,760 Yes. 1166 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,920 The house was very, very nice. 1167 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,760 The people in Morocco were so nice. 1168 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,720 Yes, so nice. 1169 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,680 My name is Melanie Mary. 1170 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,040 My mother is called Dominique Mary. 1171 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,160 It's her first name. 1172 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,160 And I... my daughter... 1173 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,720 I wanted to call her Maryam, Mary. 1174 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,720 One day, we lived in the country, 1175 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,200 I lived in the country, near Paris. 1176 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,320 It was funny because my daughter loves horses. 1177 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,680 We were in our street, there were... 1178 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,760 There was an equestrian centre, lots of horses. 1179 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,080 A lady who was riding came to say hello. I was in the car. 1180 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,320 My daughter was excited to see this lady on horseback. 1181 01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:52,400 She said: "What's your daughter's name?" 1182 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,160 I said: "Her name is Maryam." 1183 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,760 And Maryam said: "You can call me Mary." 1184 01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:04,360 The lady said: "Aren't you Muslim?" I was wearing the veil. 1185 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,200 I said: "Yes, we're Muslim. But we believe in Mary." 1186 01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,360 "We believe Mary is the mother of Jesus." 1187 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,480 She said: "Really?" 1188 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,960 She was so surprised. 1189 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,680 It was really funny. 1190 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,880 I thought: "We don't know each other." 1191 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,040 We know nothing about each other. 1192 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,080 You have to behave at the park, 1193 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,920 OK? 1194 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,920 Abraham, Maryam, OK? 1195 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,920 Listen to mum. 1196 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,680 Who will be first into the park on their scooter? 1197 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,960 Luqman, listen to dad. 1198 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:53,520 Come on. 1199 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:54,480 Out we get. 1200 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:55,600 Careful. 1201 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:00,920 I'm very proud of you. 1202 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:02,240 Everything you did, 1203 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,200 you did it on your own. 1204 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,920 Nobody helped you. 1205 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,760 You have three beautiful children 1206 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,160 that I love very much. 1207 01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:17,880 Faouzi is a very nice husband. 1208 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,280 I'm very happy for you. 1209 01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:20,800 Thank you, daddy. 1210 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,960 I'd like to say that 1211 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,480 when we knew... 1212 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,160 She's my friend, I've seen her go from dark to peace, 1213 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,800 darkness to light. 1214 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,200 When you love someone you want them to be happy, 1215 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,320 and I just wanted to understand what happened to her, 1216 01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:47,240 and hoped it would happen to me. 1217 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,640 The truth is all that was just a mirage. 1218 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,480 It was the big tragedy of my life. 1219 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,960 I wrote because I was unhappy. 1220 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,680 I thought that writing about my pain, and singing about it, 1221 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,400 I'd get help, that I'd be understood. 1222 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:18,000 But I was singing to people who were as damaged as I was. 1223 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,120 We were all suffering the same pain. 1224 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,880 When I got to the end of my quest, 1225 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,640 it wasn't that I had nothing to say 1226 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,440 but I needed 1227 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:35,400 to rebuild myself. 1228 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,160 I needed to... 1229 01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:40,320 If music had been the answer, I'd have continued. 1230 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:42,880 But it was as if... 1231 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,120 There's a saying I like. People say 1232 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,440 that you need to turn the page. 1233 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,280 Well, I closed the book 1234 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,000 and wrote a new book. 1235 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,520 A new book about something else. 1236 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,800 I hope that 1237 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,920 this film does some good. 1238 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,200 That's why it's called Salam. 1239 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,000 What does salam mean, Melanie? 1240 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,040 Salam means peace in Arabic. 1241 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:31,920 That's what I found, 1242 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,560 and what I try to spread. 1243 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,040 Peace. 1244 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,480 In memory of Fatoumata, who passed a few days after filming 1245 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,840 May the Most High have mercy on her. 1246 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:52,760 Look. 1247 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,520 Look, children. 1248 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,080 Mum's with the dolphins. 1249 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,560 Look! Look! There's loads of them. 1250 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,200 I so wish you were here. 1251 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,280 We'll come back. 1252 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,320 You put the camera on me and then say I talk too much! 1253 01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:50,160 I'm going to go off for ten years and I won't talk anymore. 1254 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,680 ORPHANS' GARDEN Melanie Diam's, the light 1255 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,400 It's Diam's, but they wrote James! 1256 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,600 But I don't care. 1257 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,160 87146

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