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EMILY LYONS: It
was premeditated.
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Oh, my god.
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EMILY LYONS: He planned it.
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[explosion]
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Run!
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EMILY LYONS: He
made those bombs.
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WOMAN (ON PHONE):
A bomb explosion.
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MAN (ON PHONE):
A bomb explosion.
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EMILY LYONS: He
killed those people.
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There's not a day goes by
that I don't think about him.
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There's not a day goes by
that I don't think about him.
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There's not a day goes by
that I don't think about him.
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There's not a day goes by
that I don't think about him.
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He is always in my head.
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People told me I
should have died.
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Out!
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Back up.
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Back up, people!
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[screaming]
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Hello and welcome to
How It Really Happened.
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I'm Jesse L. Martin.
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There is a specter hovering
over the 1996 Summer
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Olympic Games in Atlanta.
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Someone planted a bomb
designed to kill or maim
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spectators at Centennial Park.
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And when a second device
explodes at another location
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just 15 miles
away, investigators
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suspect there is a serial
bomber stalking Atlanta.
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This is part two
of Atlanta Bombing.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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RICK SCHWEIN (VOICEOVER):
There is entertainment
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at Centennial Park, the beating
heart at night of the Olympics.
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Oh, yeah.
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You having a good time?
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[cheers, applause]
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[explosion]
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We have had word
now of an explosion
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at the Centennial Olympic Park.
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RICK SCHWEIN (VOICEOVER):
Security guards were saying, get
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out, get out, get out, get out.
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[whistling]
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Hey!
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Hey!
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RICK SCHWEIN (VOICEOVER):
I looked around
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and people were screaming.
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Many injured laying around.
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REPORTER: At this
point, we understand
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that we have 110 injured and
two people who have died.
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RICK SCHWEIN (VOICEOVER):
So now, you've
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got a bombing at an Olympiad.
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What's the motivation
behind the bombing?
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At this point, we don't
know because we don't
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have the bomber identified.
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[police sirens]
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MAN (ON PHONE): This was a
loud explosion about 9:30 this
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morning in a
professional building,
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mostly housing medical offices,
including an abortion clinic.
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TOM BUSH: The first
bomb device had gone off
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in the rear of the
building into the windows
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of the abortion clinic.
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There's still a very initial
response is underway.
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REPORTER: Some windows broken.
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Eyewitnesses said that the
explosion shook nearby office
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buildings as well.
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As we say, no injuries
reported so far
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and no cause of the explosion.
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We're standing there
talking about next steps.
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[explosion]
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TOM BUSH: And that
second device goes off
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and the level of noise
and first reaction
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is literally, what was that?
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ALAN DUKE (ON PHONE):
The second explosion
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was outside the building
near the entrance to this
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professional services clinic.
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It happened about 25
yards from where I was.
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I certainly felt the
force of this blast.
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And immediately in front of
me, the people standing right
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in front of me were hit,
and they're bleeding
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from the head and elsewhere.
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And it's quite a
chaotic scene here.
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HENRY SCHUSTER: This idea
of having a secondary device
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at the abortion clinic is
something that other bombers
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had used in other places.
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It's something that
Al-Qaeda and its operatives
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would use to great effect.
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The bomb goes off.
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People come out.
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Law enforcement comes out.
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The media comes out.
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The secondary device goes off.
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[explosion]
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This was meant to kill.
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Go!
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Go!
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Go!
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BILL CAMPBELL: It was directed
at the abortion clinic.
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We have been the scene of a
number of abortion protests
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here, Operation Rescue, and a
number of others that took place
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over the last several
years, but never
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the type of violence
that occurred here today.
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JOE KENNEDY: We started to
put together a picture of what
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for both devices were made of.
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And in both cases, we had
evidence of mechanical timers.
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There were nails in
secondary device.
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MIKE RISING: There were
26 sticks of dynamite
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in it, 5 pounds of
masonry cut nails.
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JOE KENNEDY: Dynamite is a
high explosive that can only
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be initiated with a detonator.
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Dynamite went off.
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It blew it all
into one direction.
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[explosion]
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MIKE RISING: With
all the cut nails.
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MAN: Oh, my god.
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RICK SCHWEIN: So you
set a device off.
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First responders
arrive at the scene,
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and then you set another
device that you either detonate
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remotely or is timed to go off
sometime after the first device,
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you're doing that to kill the
people that are responding.
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That's a different
level of evil.
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BILL CAMPBELL: The first act
is a political statement.
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The second one is a particularly
heinous act that seemed designed
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to injure those federal and
local officials that were there
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to assist in the evacuation of
the emergency medical personnel.
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JOE KENNEDY: After the
Sandy Springs bombing,
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we had a good idea of the
components that were used
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in the bombs from Centennial
Olympic Park and the two bombs
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in Sandy Springs.
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They were a number of
components that were the same--
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mechanical timer,
nails, steel plates.
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So these types of similarities,
we like to use a term
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called a �bomber signature.�
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By that I mean, when you
have a serial bomber making
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multiple bombs, subsequent
bombs that he makes
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will generally incorporate
similar design concepts.
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And they do this because it's
what's comfortable to them.
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WOODY JOHNSON: That's
pretty solid evidence.
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You're dealing with the same
person or same group that
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is doing this because bombers
will traditionally build them
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the same way every time,
because they know what works
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and they know how dangerous it
is putting the thing together.
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Everyone wanted to know.
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Are we dealing
with someone that's
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putting the public at risk
and how worried should we be?
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[suspenseful music playing]
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JACK DAULTON: I got a phone call
at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning,
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and it was Tom Bush.
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And he said, hey, we
had another bombing.
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We're all at the
other side lounge.
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It was a tremendous boom.
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It's like-- it's like a cannon
or something in a circus,
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that kind of boom sound.
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So really, actually,
nobody even moved.
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They were too afraid
to even move, you know?
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And then I think after
maybe a minute or so,
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everybody realized
something had happened.
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TOM BUSH: It was determined
upon arriving at the scene
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that that bomb was
placed behind the club.
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Shrapnel nails came into
the back of the club.
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And people were injured
as a result of that.
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REPORTER: Five people were
injured in the initial explosion
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at the Other Side
Dance Club, a business,
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which caters to a gay and
alternative lifestyle.
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HENRY SCHUSTER: The
first bomb goes off.
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They move people back.
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They spot a secondary device
nearby a retaining wall.
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REPORTER: The first explosion
was set off on the club's
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back porch, and
when police arrived,
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they found a second
more powerful bomb.
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It was safely
detonated about 2 AM.
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[explosion]
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JOE KENNEDY: The
bomb technicians
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collaborated with each other and
worked on a series of techniques
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to render that device safe.
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Fortunately, no one was hurt.
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REPORTER: Multiple explosive
devices have been rare in the US
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until recently, but Atlanta
now has three unsolved bombings
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within the past year.
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Last July, the Olympic Park
bombing injured hundreds.
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[explosion]
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[screaming]
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REPORTER: In January,
two bombs were set off
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at a suburban business plaza.
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Investigators theorize a second
bomb is intended for officials
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who arrive at the scene.
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They looked at militia groups.
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They looked at terrorist groups.
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We assumed that it was somebody
who lived close by because they
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were all local bombs.
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We all recognize that
there are similarities here.
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We will be searching
out the possibility
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that we have a serial bomber.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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TOM BUSH: Letters are
sent to multiple media
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outlets purporting to
be from the Army of God.
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JIM RUSSELL: There were some
letters received claiming
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that the work of the Olympic
bombing and the clinic
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and Other Side
Lounge bombing was
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perpetrated by an organization
called Army of God.
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And the mindset behind those
letters indicated that somebody
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had a warped view
of Christianity,
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had a warped view of humanity.
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There was anti-semitic,
anti-gay rhetoric.
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He's now saying who he is.
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They're in this
block letter and it
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says the bombings in
Sandy Springs and Midtown
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were carried out by
units of the Army of God.
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So units, army, at least this
person saying it's more than one
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person, then the
attack in Midtown
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was aimed at the sodomite
bar (The Other Side).
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We will target sodomites,
their organizations and all
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those who push their agenda.
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TOM BUSH: Basically the
individual saying we,
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the Army of God, are
against the liberal agenda
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of the government,
homosexuality, and abortion,
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and basically saying
we're declaring
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war on those particular
aspects of American society.
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REPORTER: Even law enforcement
says it can't pin down
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any group called
the Army of God,
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but is looking at
the possibility
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of a lone serial bomber.
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Are they a group?
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Are they an organization?
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No, I don't think
they ever have been.
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But there are people who
believe in the rhetoric and the
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philosophy of the Army of God.
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REPORTER: A philosophy of hatred
against Washington, abortion,
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gays, and any event
like the Olympics
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that might force the
United States to join
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a so-called new world order.
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JACK DAULTON: So the
Army of God letters,
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they basically took
credit for the bombings
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and the assumption was
that it was somebody
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involved in that organization.
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But as we looked into it, it's
not really an organization.
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It's just a bunch
of individuals.
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So that further led us to just
one person we're dealing with.
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HENRY SCHUSTER: It's kind
of apparent to the FBI
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that there's no army.
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And that, of course,
is the hardest
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thing to crack
because that means
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you've still got a lone wolf.
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And then he goes quiet.
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The FBI says there is probably
a link between last year's
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Centennial Olympic Park bombing
and two others around Atlanta.
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They hope a blurry picture
from that might hold a clue.
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We are now displaying an
enhanced video frame taken
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at approximately 12:20
AM that shows the outline
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of an individual
sitting on the bench
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where the bomb later exploded.
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As you can see, this
video is extremely blurry.
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VERNON KEENAN: So the FBI
arranged for the picture
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to be sent to NASA to see if
they could enhance it with all
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of their specialized equipment.
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DAVID HATHAWAY: It was
many months of working.
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We came up with a
process that would
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stabilize and
register the images,
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brighten them up,
reduce the noise.
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so it was a much
cleaner image and you
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could see important details.
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The main thing is we got a
description of what he looked
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like the night of the bombing.
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TOM BUSH: And it took a
considerable amount of time,
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but we ultimately got
down to an individual
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that you could identify some
physical characteristics.
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DAVID HATHAWAY: We knew
how tall the bench was.
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We knew how tall the wall
and back of them was.
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So we could use that
to estimate his height
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and from build his weight.
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And we figured he was
about 6' 0", maybe 180.
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TOM BUSH: And what
he was wearing.
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DAVID HATHAWAY: Khaki
shirt and shorts.
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TOM BUSH: Even
shoe size, size 9.
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So it was fascinating to
see what we started with.
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What we ended up with
was pretty amazing.
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DAVID HATHAWAY: The picture
we presented of the bomber
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could help identify the
bomber, or at least if you had
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a suspect, see
whether that suspect
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was right size and shape to be
consistent with what we had.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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HENRY SCHUSTER:
It's January 1998.
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Emily Lyons is
opening up the clinic.
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EMILY LYONS: At the
clinic, we did perform
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abortions up to 15 weeks.
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We did adoptions.
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We did pregnancy
tests and ultrasounds.
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Before I started working
there, I had no major concept
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of abortion as an issue.
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HENRY SCHUSTER: This was
a place that had more
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than its share of protesters.
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So that's why they've
got an off duty
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police officer
there for security,
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Officer Sandy Sanderson.
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And he sees something.
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He starts looking at it.
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EMILY LYONS: It was
a green toolbox.
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Sandy was standing beside it.
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I was up closer to the door.
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He pulls out a
baton, and as Officer
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Sanderson gets closer to
figuring out what it is,
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it detonates.
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[explosion]
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That force just--
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[vocalizing]
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Pushed him back.
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And then the nails and
stuff went to the building,
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and then I hit the window.
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Sandy was literally
torn to pieces.
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KITTY PILGRIM:
When we got there,
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the scene was very disturbing.
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There was glass all over.
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You could smell burnt things.
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And it was
extraordinarily chaotic.
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KITTY PILGRIM (VOICEOVER):
The Birmingham fire and rescue
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service arrived to find
an off duty police officer
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had been killed by the blast.
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A nurse at the clinic
had severe injuries
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and was taken to the hospital.
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KITTY PILGRIM: It got
worse and worse and worse.
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Also very upsetting because
it's an abortion clinic.
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It's an environment that's
a vulnerable, environment.
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KITTY PILGRIM (VOICEOVER):
Investigators describe it
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as an act of cowardice,
the first fatal bombing
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of a women's health
clinic in the US history.
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JEFFREY LYONS: I went
on over to the hospital.
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Emily was on her
way into surgery,
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and they said she
might lose both legs.
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She might die.
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The bomb had a
lot of nails, over
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7 pounds of nails and shrapnel.
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One nail or a piece of
copper went into this eye,
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acted like an egg beater.
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And so there was
no hope for that,
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so they had to take that out.
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My face was covered in
shrapnel holes, tears.
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My eyelids were torn back.
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JEFFREY LYONS: I didn't
see her until that night,
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and I honestly thought I'd
walked into the wrong room.
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It was kind of in shock.
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I still didn't know if she
was going to live or not.
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EMILY LYONS: The fireball is
over 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
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So I had first, second
and third degree burns.
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It tore the skin
off, both my shins.
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Pretty much destroyed
the muscle there, too.
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And it took weeks
for that to even
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get to where it wouldn't bleed.
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JEFFREY LYONS: I knew
that if she did live,
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it was not going to be
the life she had before.
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EMILY LYONS: There have been
54 surgeries and four of those
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were this year.
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She had a lot of
surgeries from the skin
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grafts and the broken bones.
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But most of Emily's surgeries
were foreign body removals,
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and most of the foreign
bodies were nails.
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Many of them, they left
because going in after them
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would have caused more damage.
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EMILY LYONS: I am a survivor.
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Fighting is pretty
much what you had to do
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every day in the hospital.
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Jeffrey's what
got me through it.
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Always said he was my lifeline.
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She's amazing.
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She's the superhero.
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I'm the sidekick.
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You know?
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So she survived a bomb.
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I'm fortunate to be married
to such an amazing woman.
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REPORTER: The federal
bombing task force set up
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after the Olympic Park
bombing in Atlanta in 1996,
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is now operating in
Birmingham, trying
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to learn if there are any links
between the family planning
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clinic bombing and
the Atlanta bombings
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over the past year and a half.
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JOE KENNEDY: We arrived
the day of the bombing
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that afternoon to
see the bomb scene.
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I remember Lloyd
Erwin commenting
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that he had suspicion
that there might be parts
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of an improvised detonator.
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Well, I saw somebody
that had seen that day
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that told me remote control.
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TOM BUSH: There had
been time devices left
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at the other locations
at the Olympics,
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at Sandy Springs,
Other Side lounge.
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The difference and the
deadly difference in this one
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was that this particular device
was remote-control detonated.
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They used a remote control
device to detonate the bomb,
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but everything else was pretty
much the same -- the metal plate
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the nails, dynamite.
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It was basically identical
to the other bombs,
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except for remote
control to detonate it.
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When somebody setting
the remote control device,
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he has to be able
to see the device.
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So he had to be in line of
sight in order to set it off
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when you want it to go off.
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RICK SCHWEIN: He watched the
officer lean over the device
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and executed the officer.
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Killed him.
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It's cowardly, but it's also--
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it's just evil.
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He had control over that device.
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It was remotely
detonated by his finger.
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EMILY LYONS: Sandy was
doing his job that day.
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I'm thankful for that.
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It's not the way to die, though.
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Sandy didn't believe
in abortions.
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He was not pro-choice, but
he knew what his job was.
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He came to work.
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That was to protect women coming
in and out of that clinic.
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And that day he
protected me too.
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Welcome back to
How It Really Happened.
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Three bombings and investigators
have little more than a blurry
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image of the deadly bomber.
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Then, as first responders
and investigators
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rushed to the site
of another explosion,
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they get a possible break.
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A witness noticed a man
walking away from the scene.
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RICK SCHWEIN: An alert
University of Alabama Birmingham
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student saw this individual
walking away from the explosion
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site while everybody
else is running to it
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and responding to it and
thought, that's suspicious.
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The witness was doing his
laundry on the balcony of one
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of the dorms and he
saw somebody walking
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away after the
bomb had exploded,
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walking calmly
with a blonde wig.
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And he followed him.
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TOM BUSH: He follows
this individual
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on foot and in a vehicle, sees
this individual change clothes,
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take a wig off,
put a hat on, put
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sunglasses on,
changes an overcoat,
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and now is dressed differently.
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JIM RUSSELL: It was quite an
involved route that he followed
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to finally get the individual
placed inside a vehicle, which
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was a Nissan pickup truck.
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And the witness was
able to jot down
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the North Carolina tag number.
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Once the witness had provided
the license plate number to law
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enforcement, they would run the
tag through our National Crime
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Information Center,
and they were
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able to get the registration
to that vehicle, which would
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include a name, an address.
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RICK SCHWEIN: And
the license plate
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is registered to Eric
Rudolph and at an address
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in Asheville, North Carolina.
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JIM RUSSELL: When I
received the information
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from my headquarters,
the instructions
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were there was an individual
that was acting suspiciously
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at the scene of the bombing,
go out to Asheville,
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and identify if, in
fact, this person
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was in Birmingham that day.
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And if he was, what was
he doing in Birmingham?
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That was the actual
beginning of the manhunt
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because they knew who
they were looking for.
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Investigators in
Birmingham, Alabama
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are looking for a
man who may have
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witnessed yesterday's deadly
bombing of a women's clinic.
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One person was killed, another
severely wounded in the blast.
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TOM BUSH: Those
initial description
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fits a lot of what
we were looking
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for from the description from
the Centennial Park bombing.
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He was about 6' 0", 175
pounds, size 9 shoes.
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That's the kind of detail
we were able to get off
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of that blob man photograph.
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Once we had reasonable belief
that Eric Robert Rudolph
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could be a person of interest.
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You look everything
you can possibly
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find about him, his personal
stuff, his credit cards.
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He had no credit cards.
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He hadn't paid taxes.
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He had no income.
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He didn't have a
job at that time.
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We start doing
interviews, surveillance,
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bank records, things like that.
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Anybody that knew
him were interviewed,
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looked at every
aspect of his life
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that you can find through
your investigation.
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But then you're also
looking at his background.
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He had a short military career.
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He was trained in
bombing techniques.
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He was trained in what
they called L-shaped ambush
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techniques, which is
again, setting up an ambush
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using secondary devices.
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[explosion]
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As we did more in
his background,
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he's known to be
anti-government,
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anti-abortion, anti-homosexual.
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Once we do interviews with
different family and friends,
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and it became clear that a lot
of aspects of his life to date
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fit the type of individual
that could be our bomber.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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JIM RUSSELL: Randy Cochran
opened the door to us.
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And before we could do anything
more than identifying ourselves,
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Randy said, well, I guess
you must be here about Eric.
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And we were kind of dumbfounded.
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And asked Randy,
why do you think
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we're here for Eric Rudolph?
497
00:24:05,011 --> 00:24:08,181
And he said, well, because
he's all over the news.
498
00:24:08,281 --> 00:24:13,420
We have issued a warrant
for a Mr. Eric Robert Rudolph,
499
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,456
a white male, age 31.
500
00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:19,292
RICK SCHWEIN: There
was a media leak.
501
00:24:19,392 --> 00:24:24,431
Information was going to be
transmitted about Rudolph
502
00:24:24,531 --> 00:24:27,133
and the US attorney in
Birmingham, Doug Jones,
503
00:24:27,233 --> 00:24:28,968
decided to hold a
press conference.
504
00:24:29,069 --> 00:24:33,406
Last known address was in a
small North Carolina community
505
00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:37,077
in western North Carolina
called Marble, North Carolina.
506
00:24:37,177 --> 00:24:38,878
JIM RUSSELL: We were
just pretty much upset
507
00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:42,248
that that information
was now being broadcast
508
00:24:42,349 --> 00:24:43,616
to the general public.
509
00:24:43,717 --> 00:24:47,687
Shortly after the name became
available and was announced,
510
00:24:47,787 --> 00:24:51,658
they assumed that he was
going to flee at that point.
511
00:24:51,758 --> 00:24:54,794
Again, this is a
material witness warrant
512
00:24:54,894 --> 00:24:59,966
and no one should jump to any
conclusions about the fact
513
00:25:00,066 --> 00:25:03,837
that we are looking to
question Mr. Rudolph.
514
00:25:03,937 --> 00:25:06,840
We talked to Randy
and said we need to get
515
00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:09,009
in touch with Eric Rudolph.
516
00:25:09,109 --> 00:25:11,678
Do you have any
idea where he's at?
517
00:25:11,778 --> 00:25:14,581
He said my thought
is he's somewhere
518
00:25:14,681 --> 00:25:17,517
in western Cherokee
County, out near the city
519
00:25:17,617 --> 00:25:19,853
of Murphy, North Carolina.
520
00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:21,988
As soon as he said
that, got on the phone
521
00:25:22,088 --> 00:25:27,494
with the Sheriff of Cherokee
County and asked him to run
522
00:25:27,594 --> 00:25:31,464
a public records
check on Eric Rudolph,
523
00:25:31,564 --> 00:25:33,299
if he's ever been
arrested out there.
524
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,435
Sheriff said, yes, I've
got an Eric Rudolph.
525
00:25:35,535 --> 00:25:37,437
He's never been in any
of our arrest records,
526
00:25:37,537 --> 00:25:40,407
but he's getting power
on a trailer that's
527
00:25:40,507 --> 00:25:43,343
located off a Caney Creek
road, which is located
528
00:25:43,443 --> 00:25:45,779
west of Murphy, North Carolina.
529
00:25:54,054 --> 00:25:55,121
There is some
optimism this evening
530
00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,023
that the bomber of a Birmingham,
Alabama women's clinic
531
00:25:57,123 --> 00:25:58,291
will be found soon.
532
00:25:58,391 --> 00:26:00,560
REPORTER: A North Carolina
man is being sought
533
00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:03,663
for questioning as a material
witness in the Birmingham
534
00:26:03,763 --> 00:26:04,764
clinic bombing.
535
00:26:04,864 --> 00:26:06,766
At a late afternoon
press conference,
536
00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:09,736
law enforcement officials
put out this description.
537
00:26:09,836 --> 00:26:13,306
Eric Robert Rudolph, a
31-year-old white male.
538
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:19,612
JIM RUSSELL: We drove to
Murphy and it was determined
539
00:26:19,713 --> 00:26:23,450
at that location that
myself and an ATF agent
540
00:26:23,550 --> 00:26:26,720
was going to make at least
an initial reconnaissance of
541
00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:28,455
the residence of Eric Rudolph.
542
00:26:30,957 --> 00:26:32,258
It's dark out.
543
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,627
It's in the middle of winter,
and we're getting more and more
544
00:26:34,728 --> 00:26:36,262
certain that this
individual that
545
00:26:36,363 --> 00:26:39,499
has already committed
a bombing in Birmingham
546
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,634
has killed a police officer.
547
00:26:41,735 --> 00:26:44,771
We had to be careful for any
kind of booby traps or IEDs
548
00:26:44,871 --> 00:26:47,674
as we were making the
approach to the trailer.
549
00:26:47,774 --> 00:26:52,879
The front door was wide
open, and this was January
550
00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:54,647
and it was cold.
551
00:26:54,748 --> 00:26:56,783
And I thought, geez,
you know, with that door
552
00:26:56,883 --> 00:26:58,785
being wide open
like that, no truck,
553
00:26:58,885 --> 00:27:02,589
it looks like, in my opinion,
that he must have just
554
00:27:02,689 --> 00:27:05,759
exited that trailer in a hurry.
555
00:27:05,859 --> 00:27:08,395
It looked like he took at
least a rifle and he left other
556
00:27:08,495 --> 00:27:14,067
firearms back there and
left $1,600 in cash, in $100
557
00:27:14,167 --> 00:27:16,469
bills hidden behind a picture.
558
00:27:16,569 --> 00:27:18,605
It just reinforced
in my opinion,
559
00:27:18,705 --> 00:27:21,508
that he left that
trailer in a hurry.
560
00:27:21,608 --> 00:27:24,411
And I had just got
there a little too late.
561
00:27:24,511 --> 00:27:27,514
RICK SCHWEIN: He missed
Rudolph by, I believe,
562
00:27:27,614 --> 00:27:28,748
less than an hour.
563
00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:30,183
But at that point, it
was very apparent that
564
00:27:30,283 --> 00:27:32,786
Eric Rudolph was on the run.
565
00:27:32,886 --> 00:27:34,287
REPORTER: Who is Eric Rudolph?
566
00:27:34,387 --> 00:27:35,689
And where is he?
567
00:27:35,789 --> 00:27:38,658
Federal agents continue to
search for the elusive material
568
00:27:38,758 --> 00:27:40,760
witness in the
January 29 bombing
569
00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:43,496
of an Alabama abortion clinic.
570
00:27:43,596 --> 00:27:46,599
JIM RUSSELL: We dug into the
background to Eric Rudolph.
571
00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:50,103
It became apparent that
this was a loner, never
572
00:27:50,203 --> 00:27:53,006
had any real close
friends, never
573
00:27:53,106 --> 00:27:56,576
had any real close
girlfriends, was never married,
574
00:27:56,676 --> 00:27:58,978
never had a legitimate job.
575
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:03,049
He was raised in Florida and
his mother moved the family
576
00:28:03,149 --> 00:28:08,254
to North Carolina to be ready
for any terrible event that
577
00:28:08,355 --> 00:28:10,957
could happen, any
cataclysm, the apocalypse,
578
00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:12,726
to be bunkered
and hunkered down.
579
00:28:12,826 --> 00:28:15,729
In this case, they lived
in this little community
580
00:28:15,829 --> 00:28:17,497
called Topton, North Carolina.
581
00:28:17,597 --> 00:28:20,400
There are a lot of people that
have moved into the area that
582
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:23,370
were anti-government and
felt that they would be more
583
00:28:23,470 --> 00:28:28,575
accepting in that area because
of the community itself
584
00:28:28,675 --> 00:28:31,811
and the community's beliefs.
585
00:28:31,911 --> 00:28:33,246
ART HARRIS: He
didn't have a father
586
00:28:33,346 --> 00:28:35,882
figure after his father died.
587
00:28:35,982 --> 00:28:37,884
DEBORAH RUDOLPH: Mr.
Rudolph had passed away.
588
00:28:37,984 --> 00:28:39,285
He had melanoma.
589
00:28:39,386 --> 00:28:42,789
They had wanted to
administer Laetrile,
590
00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:48,995
which is not approved by the
FDA, and he ended up passing.
591
00:28:49,095 --> 00:28:50,263
It sort of fell into that...
592
00:28:50,363 --> 00:28:52,499
�Well, the government is
keeping these sort of cures
593
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:53,800
away from us.�
594
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:58,138
So, you know, they're just
become layers of conspiracy.
595
00:28:58,238 --> 00:29:01,708
ART HARRIS: Suddenly, here's
Eric with grief in his mind.
596
00:29:01,808 --> 00:29:04,477
But no one to--
597
00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:08,381
to single out except the
feds, the bureaucracy
598
00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:13,219
that denied his father the
one elixir of hope he wanted,
599
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:15,422
who he thought would
cure his cancer.
600
00:29:15,522 --> 00:29:17,590
And looking back, I
think, OK, they already
601
00:29:17,691 --> 00:29:20,060
had these sentiments,
but I think it
602
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,330
progressed after Robert died.
603
00:29:24,431 --> 00:29:30,437
His mom seemed to be somebody
who was a spiritual searcher.
604
00:29:30,537 --> 00:29:32,272
ART HARRIS: Eric Rudolph
grew up in somewhat
605
00:29:32,372 --> 00:29:38,044
of a preached-at childhood
where his mother would visit
606
00:29:38,144 --> 00:29:42,482
different churches that
were very fundamentalist
607
00:29:42,582 --> 00:29:45,719
or had a new Christian
identity movement.
608
00:29:45,819 --> 00:29:50,757
Eric is exposed to a
really toxic mix of ideas--
609
00:29:50,857 --> 00:29:53,526
white nationalism,
white separatism,
610
00:29:53,626 --> 00:29:56,062
white supremacy, all mixed in.
611
00:29:56,162 --> 00:29:57,597
DEBORAH RUDOLPH:
How it was explained
612
00:29:57,697 --> 00:30:01,368
to me is if you want
to further your race,
613
00:30:01,468 --> 00:30:02,769
you need to be
true to your race.
614
00:30:02,869 --> 00:30:04,971
You need to breed
within your race.
615
00:30:05,071 --> 00:30:07,407
You need to stay in your lane.
616
00:30:07,507 --> 00:30:09,309
TOM BUSH: He'd had
some education.
617
00:30:09,409 --> 00:30:12,379
He'd been in the
military, and he'd had
618
00:30:12,479 --> 00:30:14,447
bomb training in the military.
619
00:30:14,547 --> 00:30:16,149
DEBORAH RUDOLPH: It
was such a shock when
620
00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:17,851
Eric went into the military.
621
00:30:17,951 --> 00:30:20,020
When he went in
the military, OK,
622
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,988
you're this
anti-government dude.
623
00:30:22,088 --> 00:30:23,356
Why would you do that?
624
00:30:23,456 --> 00:30:25,058
I know that lifestyle.
625
00:30:25,158 --> 00:30:28,428
If you're anti-government
and you're narcissistic
626
00:30:28,528 --> 00:30:30,296
and you're very
self-centered, that's
627
00:30:30,397 --> 00:30:33,500
not going to work because you
have to be part of a team.
628
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,037
TOM BUSH: He was dishonorably
discharged from the military
629
00:30:37,137 --> 00:30:39,039
for use of marijuana.
630
00:30:39,139 --> 00:30:41,541
DEBORAH RUDOLPH: He became
a little more aggressive
631
00:30:41,641 --> 00:30:46,846
about his sentiments about
the government, about the FDA,
632
00:30:46,946 --> 00:30:50,417
about the races,
and about abortion.
633
00:30:50,517 --> 00:30:55,255
He used to say the Olympics is
all the races coming together,
634
00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:57,724
but he turned it
into something ugly.
635
00:30:57,824 --> 00:31:00,660
Now we have a picture
of an individual,
636
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,265
so we know where his hatreds and
motivations and problems are.
637
00:31:11,404 --> 00:31:13,273
JOE KENNEDY: By then,
Eric Rudolph's name
638
00:31:13,373 --> 00:31:15,709
had been circulated
through the news media,
639
00:31:15,809 --> 00:31:19,179
and the owner of a mini
storage unit called
640
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,682
said, hey, I rented a
unit to this Eric Rudolph.
641
00:31:22,782 --> 00:31:29,255
So we proceeded to get
into that storage unit
642
00:31:29,356 --> 00:31:33,293
and that's when a bag
of nails was collected.
643
00:31:33,393 --> 00:31:35,328
Those were cut nails.
644
00:31:35,428 --> 00:31:38,631
LLOYD ERWIN: It was later
identified as the same type
645
00:31:38,732 --> 00:31:41,735
of nail, the same
manufacturer as the ones
646
00:31:41,835 --> 00:31:43,803
in Sandy Springs device.
647
00:31:47,407 --> 00:31:49,609
A mobile home is one
focus of the investigation
648
00:31:49,709 --> 00:31:51,211
into last week's
bombing of a women's
649
00:31:51,311 --> 00:31:52,679
health clinic in Alabama.
650
00:31:52,779 --> 00:31:55,382
Federal agents searched the
Marble, North Carolina home,
651
00:31:55,482 --> 00:31:57,584
which is the last known
address of a material
652
00:31:57,684 --> 00:31:58,785
witness to the attack.
653
00:31:58,885 --> 00:32:00,687
Eric Rudolph is still at large.
654
00:32:00,787 --> 00:32:03,456
Authorities say that even though
he's simply wanted as a witness,
655
00:32:03,556 --> 00:32:06,426
Rudolph should only be
approached by the police.
656
00:32:09,662 --> 00:32:11,097
RICK SCHWEIN: Now,
the manhunt is on,
657
00:32:11,197 --> 00:32:12,966
and we're looking for him.
658
00:32:13,066 --> 00:32:13,933
We have a start point.
659
00:32:14,034 --> 00:32:16,302
We have this trailer.
660
00:32:16,403 --> 00:32:19,839
JOE KENNEDY: There were items
that contained the presence
661
00:32:19,939 --> 00:32:24,444
of trace explosives, EGD
in particularly, which
662
00:32:24,544 --> 00:32:26,046
is only found in dynamite.
663
00:32:26,146 --> 00:32:29,449
There was the Walmart
receipt and on the receipt
664
00:32:29,549 --> 00:32:34,854
was a number of items that
could be used to manufacture
665
00:32:34,954 --> 00:32:36,623
improvised explosives.
666
00:32:36,723 --> 00:32:39,592
Now, you're not going to find
improvised explosives per se
667
00:32:39,693 --> 00:32:45,832
at Walmart, but the measuring
cup, gloves, other things
668
00:32:45,932 --> 00:32:50,036
that you would think a person
in a makeshift chemical lab
669
00:32:50,136 --> 00:32:55,208
might want to use to
formulate a high explosive.
670
00:32:55,308 --> 00:32:58,778
[suspenseful music playing]
671
00:33:03,850 --> 00:33:04,884
REPORTER: Federal
authorities have descended
672
00:33:04,984 --> 00:33:07,354
on the community of Murphy,
North Carolina, in the
673
00:33:07,454 --> 00:33:08,755
woods nearby.
674
00:33:08,855 --> 00:33:10,957
They have found what could be
a link to last month's bombing
675
00:33:11,057 --> 00:33:13,426
of a women's health clinic
in Birmingham, Alabama.
676
00:33:13,526 --> 00:33:14,794
JOE KENNEDY: On
February the 7th,
677
00:33:14,894 --> 00:33:16,996
Eric Rudolph's truck
was located by some
678
00:33:17,097 --> 00:33:18,798
hunters in Nantahala Forest.
679
00:33:18,898 --> 00:33:21,368
It was within five
miles of his trailer,
680
00:33:21,468 --> 00:33:26,306
but it was off the road,
hidden deep into the woods.
681
00:33:26,406 --> 00:33:27,874
REPORTER: Federal
agents pulled Eric
682
00:33:27,974 --> 00:33:30,810
Robert Rudolph's vehicle from
a deeply wooded area
683
00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:32,078
Monday afternoon.
684
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:34,280
The truck, wrapped
in plastic, was
685
00:33:34,381 --> 00:33:37,417
being taken by flatbed
for extensive analysis
686
00:33:37,517 --> 00:33:39,686
in a forensic lab.
687
00:33:39,786 --> 00:33:44,024
I swabbed the door handles,
swabbed the steering wheel,
688
00:33:44,124 --> 00:33:46,092
the gearshift lever.
689
00:33:46,192 --> 00:33:49,095
We got dynamite residue
off the steering wheel.
690
00:33:49,195 --> 00:33:51,231
JOE KENNEDY: This was
just another indication
691
00:33:51,331 --> 00:33:56,536
that this is the bomber
of the Birmingham attack.
692
00:33:56,636 --> 00:34:00,940
So this combination of
parts were indications
693
00:34:01,041 --> 00:34:05,445
of a serial bomber, and
most of us on the task force
694
00:34:05,545 --> 00:34:09,816
felt confident that the
bomber was the same guy that
695
00:34:09,916 --> 00:34:12,652
was responsible for Sandy
Springs and for Centennial Park
696
00:34:12,752 --> 00:34:13,653
as well.
697
00:34:13,753 --> 00:34:16,089
We found a receipt
for groceries--
698
00:34:16,189 --> 00:34:19,826
canned tuna, oatmeal,
raisins, stuff that he
699
00:34:19,926 --> 00:34:21,594
could take to the woods.
700
00:34:21,695 --> 00:34:24,531
And the belief was that he could
probably live for about five
701
00:34:24,631 --> 00:34:27,534
or six months with what he had.
702
00:34:27,634 --> 00:34:28,835
JIM RUSSELL: He was on the run.
703
00:34:28,935 --> 00:34:30,937
He knew he was being hunted.
704
00:34:31,037 --> 00:34:33,073
REPORTER: From the
air and on the ground.
705
00:34:33,173 --> 00:34:34,708
The hunt intensifies
for an elusive
706
00:34:34,808 --> 00:34:37,944
witness to that fatal bombing
at an Alabama women's clinic.
707
00:34:38,044 --> 00:34:41,314
With the abandonment of
the truck and no report
708
00:34:41,414 --> 00:34:43,683
of any other vehicles
stolen in the area.
709
00:34:43,783 --> 00:34:47,520
We were confident that we
had our fugitive on foot.
710
00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:50,357
RICK SCHWEIN: He's in the
Nantahala National Forest area,
711
00:34:50,457 --> 00:34:53,293
so it's very rural, it's rugged.
712
00:34:53,393 --> 00:34:57,831
It's a five-county area in the
far western part of the state.
713
00:34:57,931 --> 00:35:00,166
REPORTER: Searching for
a needle in a haystack.
714
00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:03,370
Scouring the southern
Appalachians for Eric Rudolph.
715
00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:06,906
The 31-year-old North Carolina
carpenter and laborer has been
716
00:35:07,007 --> 00:35:08,942
sought for questioning
about the clinic bombing
717
00:35:09,042 --> 00:35:11,711
for a week and a half now.
718
00:35:11,811 --> 00:35:14,948
RICK SCHWEIN: It was an area
that we knew he had grown up in.
719
00:35:15,048 --> 00:35:16,649
He knew how to navigate.
720
00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:17,717
He knew how to move.
721
00:35:17,817 --> 00:35:19,352
He knew the best routes.
722
00:35:19,452 --> 00:35:24,991
He knew all the game trails,
and he knew how to stay hidden.
723
00:35:25,091 --> 00:35:27,660
There are areas where you can't
see more than a couple of feet
724
00:35:27,761 --> 00:35:29,996
in front of you, particularly
if you get off the path.
725
00:35:30,096 --> 00:35:34,567
So there's the physical danger
of having an armed confrontation
726
00:35:34,668 --> 00:35:39,072
with a wanted fugitive that has
no compunction about killing.
727
00:35:39,172 --> 00:35:40,974
REPORTER: You know, here,
he's been living out
728
00:35:41,074 --> 00:35:42,308
here in the woods and all this.
729
00:35:42,409 --> 00:35:44,377
I mean, you think some
folks might be helping him?
730
00:35:44,477 --> 00:35:46,880
I'd say he's had some
help somewhere or another,
731
00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:49,449
but I won't say for sure.
732
00:35:49,549 --> 00:35:52,085
But I would have helped
him if I'd had seen him.
733
00:35:52,185 --> 00:35:53,486
REPORTER: And why is that?
734
00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:58,658
Because I figure he didn't do
what they got him charged with.
735
00:35:58,758 --> 00:36:01,861
I don't believe he done it.
736
00:36:01,961 --> 00:36:04,564
RICK SCHWEIN: You
would see the signs.
737
00:36:04,664 --> 00:36:07,267
Eric Rudolph, hide
and seek champion,
738
00:36:07,367 --> 00:36:09,402
fill in the blank
number of days.
739
00:36:09,502 --> 00:36:13,239
There were certainly
small pockets
740
00:36:13,340 --> 00:36:19,479
of people who were sympathetic
and may have assisted Eric.
741
00:36:19,579 --> 00:36:23,350
REPORTER: But the FBI says he
is armed and dangerous, still
742
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:25,685
hiding in these mountains.
743
00:36:25,785 --> 00:36:27,721
JIM RUSSELL: The manhunt
would ebb and flow
744
00:36:27,821 --> 00:36:31,391
and then there would be a
potential sighting of Rudolph
745
00:36:31,491 --> 00:36:32,992
by members of the public.
746
00:36:33,093 --> 00:36:36,162
So that would kind of send
us out back into the woods.
747
00:36:36,262 --> 00:36:39,632
And we spend weeks and
months and ultimately
748
00:36:39,733 --> 00:36:42,769
years searching the
mountains for our bomber,
749
00:36:42,869 --> 00:36:45,505
for Eric Rudolph.
750
00:36:45,605 --> 00:36:49,242
JIM RUSSELL: '99,
2000, 2001, 2002.
751
00:36:49,342 --> 00:36:51,077
Four years.
752
00:36:51,177 --> 00:36:53,213
No sightings of
him in four years.
753
00:36:53,313 --> 00:36:58,018
I became firmly convinced
that Eric Rudolph had
754
00:36:58,118 --> 00:36:59,352
died out there in the woods.
755
00:36:59,452 --> 00:37:02,622
[suspenseful music playing]
756
00:37:04,457 --> 00:37:08,962
ART HARRIS: Small town cop just
doing his drive bys at night,
757
00:37:09,062 --> 00:37:12,165
3:00 or 4:00 in the morning,
sees a guy wandering around
758
00:37:12,265 --> 00:37:17,737
behind a shopping center
and stops him and gets
759
00:37:17,837 --> 00:37:20,273
him out of the dumpster
where he's been
760
00:37:20,373 --> 00:37:22,909
dumpster diving for food.
761
00:37:23,009 --> 00:37:25,245
RICK SCHWEIN: They took him
to the sheriff's department.
762
00:37:25,345 --> 00:37:29,049
And they started talking to him.
763
00:37:29,149 --> 00:37:30,817
And his story
wasn't matching up.
764
00:37:30,917 --> 00:37:33,887
He said he was an indigent
living under the bridge,
765
00:37:33,987 --> 00:37:37,023
couldn't produce any ID,
and finally pulled out
766
00:37:37,123 --> 00:37:39,859
a wanted poster and
held it up to his face
767
00:37:39,959 --> 00:37:41,528
and said, who are you really?
768
00:37:41,628 --> 00:37:45,398
And he admitted his identity,
said, I'm Eric Robert Rudolph,
769
00:37:45,498 --> 00:37:46,700
and you got me.
770
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,135
We have some breaking news
to report to you this morning
771
00:37:49,235 --> 00:37:52,906
regarding a long
FBI and multi-agency
772
00:37:53,006 --> 00:37:54,307
investigation that
has been going
773
00:37:54,407 --> 00:37:57,477
on early since the late 90s.
774
00:37:57,577 --> 00:38:01,614
RICK SCHWEIN: Jeff Postell, a
young 21-year-old rookie police
775
00:38:01,715 --> 00:38:06,820
officer, ran across America's
most notorious top 10 fugitive
776
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,156
and domestic terrorist,
diving in a dumpster at 3:00
777
00:38:10,256 --> 00:38:13,993
in the morning in a Save-a-Lot
grocery store in Murphy,
778
00:38:14,094 --> 00:38:15,095
North Carolina.
779
00:38:15,195 --> 00:38:16,863
I'm just glad I was
out there doing my job
780
00:38:16,963 --> 00:38:19,532
and was glad I was in the
right place at the right time.
781
00:38:19,632 --> 00:38:21,401
RICK SCHWEIN: Ending
one of the longest
782
00:38:21,501 --> 00:38:23,470
manhunts in American history.
783
00:38:23,570 --> 00:38:25,705
As we speak, Eric
Rudolph is in the jail
784
00:38:25,805 --> 00:38:28,041
building, which is right
behind this courthouse
785
00:38:28,141 --> 00:38:29,042
over my shoulder.
786
00:38:29,142 --> 00:38:31,144
It's expected that
sometime tomorrow,
787
00:38:31,244 --> 00:38:33,847
he'll be transported to
Asheville, North Carolina,
788
00:38:33,947 --> 00:38:35,382
where he'll make
a first appearance
789
00:38:35,482 --> 00:38:38,718
in a federal courtroom Monday
morning, 10:00 AM Eastern time.
790
00:38:38,818 --> 00:38:41,187
It's then expected he will
quickly be transferred
791
00:38:41,287 --> 00:38:44,491
to either Alabama or
Georgia, the states
792
00:38:44,591 --> 00:38:46,359
where the bombs went off.
793
00:38:46,459 --> 00:38:49,329
By then, there's
enough evidence
794
00:38:49,429 --> 00:38:52,999
for the federal government
to levy charges against Eric
795
00:38:53,099 --> 00:38:54,567
Rudolph for the bombings.
796
00:38:54,668 --> 00:38:57,704
And so he's charged and
held in federal custody.
797
00:38:57,804 --> 00:38:59,239
JIM RUSSELL: The US
Attorney's office
798
00:38:59,339 --> 00:39:02,075
was going to seek the death
penalty against Rudolph.
799
00:39:02,175 --> 00:39:04,144
But if he didn't want
the death penalty
800
00:39:04,244 --> 00:39:06,279
he had to offer
some cooperation.
801
00:39:06,379 --> 00:39:09,115
JIM RUSSELL: Rudolph had
offered, through his attorneys,
802
00:39:09,215 --> 00:39:15,288
to provide us with the
locations of some IED components
803
00:39:15,388 --> 00:39:21,227
and an actual intact IED and
over 200 pounds of dynamite.
804
00:39:21,327 --> 00:39:23,263
RICK SCHWEIN: He had buried
his explosive devices
805
00:39:23,363 --> 00:39:24,831
in the dynamite cache.
806
00:39:24,931 --> 00:39:26,666
That was important
because we didn't
807
00:39:26,766 --> 00:39:29,636
want somebody to run across
that and have somebody
808
00:39:29,736 --> 00:39:31,438
else get hurt or killed.
809
00:39:31,538 --> 00:39:36,543
It was decided to accept
his offer and in return,
810
00:39:36,643 --> 00:39:39,279
not seek the death penalty.
811
00:39:39,379 --> 00:39:43,283
The dynamite was so unstable
we had to blow it in place.
812
00:39:43,383 --> 00:39:45,618
[explosion]
813
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,153
And I do remember it.
814
00:39:47,253 --> 00:39:51,558
It rattled windows in
that five-county area.
815
00:39:51,658 --> 00:39:54,894
It was quite the hole
that that explosion made.
816
00:39:58,665 --> 00:40:01,134
REPORTER: Today, Eric Rudolph
pleaded guilty to those bombings
817
00:40:01,234 --> 00:40:02,736
in several court appearances.
818
00:40:02,836 --> 00:40:05,405
His pleas will spare him
the death penalty, which
819
00:40:05,505 --> 00:40:07,273
some of his victims
believe is a worse
820
00:40:07,374 --> 00:40:10,043
deal than they got from him.
821
00:40:10,143 --> 00:40:15,081
EMILY LYONS: I am angry he
didn't get the death penalty.
822
00:40:15,181 --> 00:40:17,350
He should have.
823
00:40:17,450 --> 00:40:18,918
It was premeditated.
824
00:40:19,019 --> 00:40:19,986
He planned it.
825
00:40:20,086 --> 00:40:22,655
He made those bombs.
826
00:40:22,756 --> 00:40:25,925
He killed those three people.
827
00:40:26,026 --> 00:40:27,527
How much more do you need?
828
00:40:27,627 --> 00:40:30,964
[suspenseful music playing]
829
00:40:42,676 --> 00:40:44,277
WATSON BRYANT: Richard
Jewell was there
830
00:40:44,377 --> 00:40:46,713
when Eric Rudolph pled guilty.
831
00:40:46,813 --> 00:40:49,315
It was sort of like a
big weight came off.
832
00:40:49,416 --> 00:40:53,453
But people still think of him
with some shame associated
833
00:40:53,553 --> 00:40:55,455
with his name because
of the park bombing
834
00:40:55,555 --> 00:40:58,792
instead of being a guy
that saved a lot of lives.
835
00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:05,965
MARK WINNE: You can stand there
in Centennial Olympic Park
836
00:41:06,066 --> 00:41:10,937
today and see where
Eric Rudolph perpetrated
837
00:41:11,037 --> 00:41:13,306
this huge act of terror.
838
00:41:13,406 --> 00:41:15,108
Then you can look to
the south, and you
839
00:41:15,208 --> 00:41:18,244
can see the towering
federal courthouse
840
00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:21,481
where Eric Rudolph pled guilty.
841
00:41:21,581 --> 00:41:23,616
You can see the
beginning and the end
842
00:41:23,717 --> 00:41:25,251
of the Eric Rudolph saga.
843
00:41:25,352 --> 00:41:28,088
It took a long time,
but justice got there.
844
00:41:32,525 --> 00:41:34,461
Richard Jewell,
married in 1998
845
00:41:34,561 --> 00:41:36,896
and eventually became
a deputy sheriff.
846
00:41:36,996 --> 00:41:39,632
Tragically, he died from
heart disease in 2007
847
00:41:39,733 --> 00:41:41,334
at the age of 44.
848
00:41:41,434 --> 00:41:43,036
Captured after more
than five years
849
00:41:43,136 --> 00:41:45,338
on the run in the North
Carolina wilderness,
850
00:41:45,438 --> 00:41:48,808
Eric Rudolph is now serving
multiple life sentences.
851
00:41:48,908 --> 00:41:52,178
He's in the federal supermax
prison in Florence, Colorado
852
00:41:52,278 --> 00:41:54,547
living in a tiny cell
where he gets only
853
00:41:54,647 --> 00:41:57,017
one hour of daylight a day.
854
00:41:57,117 --> 00:41:59,853
I'm Jesse L. Martin
Thank you for watching.
855
00:41:59,953 --> 00:42:00,653
Good night.
856
00:42:00,754 --> 00:42:04,090
[music playing]
857
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:08,690
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