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he is one of the world's best-known psychiatrists in the field of trauma and or
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whether it concerns domestic violence, sexual abuse or ptsd since his bestseller the
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body keptte score we know that in addition to talking and medication the key to successful treatment
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light in our body more than half of the Dutch have a traumatic experience
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had a conversation about living with trauma, his childhood in the hague and about the images that en
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during his life this is the ideal television evening of texel of the cabbage
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good evening welcome to the sixth and last summer guests of this season and in many ways
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therapeutic episode with the healing power of shakespeare harry mulisch from alexander en
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psychiatrists saying yes to mdma in the summer guests evening of psychiatrist and trauma
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specialist quite from the cook just as welcome nice minutes they are back in the Netherlands for a while you are
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born and raised here yes has lived in amelia for 60 years and what kind of bond do you still have with the netherlands
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wanted are always good colleagues of course because that country is married on studied and I
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I still have two brothers here and some cell and family I come to the Netherlands every year how many are in
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asia am i' the netherlands mainly lost thanks to you is a little better and buyback
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the dutch language do you mean yes yes was that so deeply sunk minus 60 years is very good in name
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of you are still in contact with your family but I never speak the guest English Dutch
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we just watched the nos news together and I can't I have to name it anyway you're in
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every news broadcast you are confronted with trauma for a long time I just said it in my
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introduction more than half of the Dutch have ever experienced a traumatic event
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and in your book you also start and with a shocking summary I found one in five children
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is sexually abused in 1 in 3 adult couples there is physical violence his eye on
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school can grades yes yes keep it just the money was when first i got your ps3 and the
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memory closed shed made them so have an extraordinary event that almost never before
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contair en pietjes that is then notice that the english term wants to call an island that perverse
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post true light address in exchange they thought it almost never happens and that says something about us
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although blind to groups wretched world there wasn't introduced with it when people thought
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that it is something very rare and or definition sows extraordinary event that hardly ever
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prevents his when was that but now he was made by noise 80 of 89 people thought too rare
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you know better and your mission is also to make the world better realize that
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trauma is and what it does to people it is there is generally enough
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eye do you think for the consequences of trauma in today's society that news they very well
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example between is terrible happened they talk about the engineering questions for good
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picture how the cars come nice yes but they are very about people and the very three things
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where the people go they go so it becomes the engineer problem and that of priva how go
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we help these people to get over that yes yes they are very much talking about what happened
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your pension and the group very logical question you want to know what happened but I am
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mainly I am from autism what will happen to these people because for small piece high cans
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in the mountain on the very they will be quite ready and after about six months and have
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other thing to deal with it's expected everyone who goes hide and you just have to get there
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experience it and so the sympathy stops after a short ride yes and then you live your goal and you felt
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keep your body going and that can make the rule of life difficult for you that is of course also
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a year where your but your book red goes the body kits the score trauma we hear it a lot
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have about trauma count but trace the effect on the body and yes what the causes
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may be from trauma but you also wanted it to be a happy evening not one
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evening only with doom and gloom and because to strengthen you want to start tonight
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with a comedy series daddle so series from appletv apple tv plus i have to say about a brand a
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football coach paddle so the leaves for england to be there sunny without any knowledge of european
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to start coaching football and premier league team it seems a bit like the CDs about sports
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but it's not and because what is it all about ever i-phone great how subtle the so about
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human relations and people exert their problems on each other and that you really need people
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help to be able to bear on cards it is good for cards are all good team
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and sports' directors and they sometimes very very good to really know good people about together yes those
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group occasionally and more purchase house of coaches from primary school t is a baseball teams that me
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also ask if they can handle arguments with people because many of these space speakers and
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are often traumatized then it didn't become anymore so we have to do what we help to make that one
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team building yes so it's not about the team building backstage and not
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so much about the football being in this series 0 yes we fall into it when coach gesso finds out
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that the players think it brings bad luck to get into the massage room of the players to van
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the players perish they think it's haunted the coaches bring the team together
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exorcise those ghosts by letting each player practice something personal in tablet zo
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jeremy sew and by nature ghost muscle god aliens silent reaction t we live by our physical world dat
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we can tell you that we keep the exception the white and wisdom of cabinet slave
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was busy john
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romance the scariest
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eyes quickly acting a microscopic and the Dutchman me feel grendha from
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monitor the you can one is already board is it how jaime form tournament minus 5 en
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now they last time so you see if the white ice on my for christmas is there where
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planck i made a master degree sweep blanqui to ahab blanke campus iphone ipad air
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location after the square soundcheck crimes to let themes or lesson in tents duet
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pill to do satellite color in this lesson is antonia cornelia new job
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may be Saint I believe it will take you there
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can join
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yes and my fist punch I'm a round with it
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susan i do people for usa stayed the medals desk pulses the section le on bbc series soon we
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so out so when to make up red you do now a core of me no good susan smit de brt the lab
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our calcutta mee Houtman stand in show and serve brian 12 is medical wittamer
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scored goal colony soft I go this now then my one your name anna anna he the day he
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hit no own then so join the woman 2 bis outs or the ingrid just a comic or tech en
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high wonders sometimes
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africa of little fake bread
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then he will find you want there
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very dylan
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corn oil body scrub you join this sparta site
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make a label
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smart moreover and beautiful yes why can you specifically do this scene in tesla so is the
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last time jamie is very unpleasant character and nobody i want anything to do with him to
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who is always cool and we constantly see this in practice, keep samples and that he is allowed
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no longer be weak what other than a slave becomes his father so he goes this life
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hi hat off and lb got once agree the oil went along and that's why he has no friends
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and nobody wants to have anything to do with that but once she grows how that happened I go he
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not only say therefore also become mixture but the people around them can say oh no
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won that sometimes you're such a [ __ ] but we'll beers a little different to do this so to really
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to be able to tell the car makes it possible from people to carry each other busy
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to be so that great creates that there is more understanding for the the as you call [ __ ] in the belt je and
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for all he is I see it as a psychologist is very good at getting the best out of people
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and really see the weaknesses mature and help them use those weaknesses
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and use them against each other yes and how how does he do the ate because he doesn't just do that
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by abandoning his stuff in fiqh wanting it really isn't no he sees people he sees
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how they have problems and did they do and so what you see is not necessarily all there is
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with the jamie and even himself difficult strength but your being that has a lot of problems like that
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may make the demo public may teach you not to be off as a species
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yes so very stirring such story of the game is very nice part of tess lessons
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and why is it so important for himself to speak those for those for that truth because you
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it is too valuable so that they players get him in a different light sion and more sympathetic shape
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and what does it do form gel but I want it right now willem the adlers revel itself happens
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in and jamie himself why is it good for him to say that truth he just throws i'm so scared
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to be battle I will always be finished and always scold people could otherwise become too weak
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and to live robot were crazy vulnerable yes and I may not fat version what the father beat rotten
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if i were you vulnerable so i'm gonna do life couldn't hurt you and once you
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see you have new possibilities to behave differently and you have learned that, for example
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from coach gesso if you as a therapist to Friday well I hope to do that myself with my
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own team and more people where indeed is it true if you have 18 games apartment then say so
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work stays for a very long time and so far and if you really understand being busy with people in a way you can
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really help that they can both be themselves but also that they don't have this past but
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always bring them into the present and make their own each other's lives miserable yes that their parents thoris them in
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the present was sitting in the brother and sister yes yes you also thought about it because the boys who
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that or there is something they gave birth to a lot and attach to something that is a precious memory
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sticks to what what would you yourself in that tongo you quite what it takes itself about
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good was care so early on have that three hours to think about you smoke a
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acceptgiro to come back to it let's go a little deeper into your field you want
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diving and in particular the phenomenon of trauma with the pivot of feature film a
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furnace see architect neck small shared by jeff bridges that speaks for itself
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the scene for itself I think probably yes yes let's go watch fearless
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well the job is baby i would suffer the pain and such a moment with us learns that you are for baby
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a lot of views yes and that shows how like i things happen that people have different reactions
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have and want to see lose only panic there is also know exactly where the panic flank is about
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to she him I the tray a week gift degree in the physio article had her buizel all those things know
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off the brain and a lot of people on the other who knew show I care more about talking that
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feel nothing at all they become completely calm and can continue despite terrible things
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around is able to close so that's what we have no with the owner so see with
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jeff bridges and the die sluis even make up the feeling body distract I look at what you at
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you don't feel anything he doesn't feel anything during whole thing and that's one of the reactions to trauma is you
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goes on for example and I sometimes teach on my foundation harvard where they are journalists
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come to the window to do things and the on must regularly war correspondents from libya and
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syria and hurricanes are standing and now client and that sentence very quietly while they are busy with a job
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in that customs bring that come into a game send to a beautiful building in thick
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people you panic and they have their resins and thus prepared to function very well
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under getting married but under ordinary circumstances go to brain heaven goes wrong so it wasn't
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totally surprised with well sad for me that they got married war euro crineen understanding don't look at
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the bay wrote live frieze he has one from paris again the a lot of the people with
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the one who worked from hive is the one who has to go back to the building then his brain again what's going on with them
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they are so used to that you are constantly in danger that they function with that expensive house number
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this is you that too little call also stay with the fragment because this is a different one
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situation this is a man who is not in some kind of professional setting or mode going anywhere
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goes and has to function there this is a man who unexpectedly finds himself in a situation that
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seriously traumatizes him that can't be otherwise because he is full of happiness with that plane because he says he
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gets to the question and sat win planes to youth no dude why why he thinks you
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and I try to distance them yes and it goes very deep sink see to lie you say
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oh yes yes I was there but felt this is not happening to me this happened to others
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people around me it's the island catching the distance.that was social sea so an image my
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pants dissociation yes and they very good method to protect yourself from terrible things
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we have I myself are also made of gold I got mugged quite tom kiehl's in my neighborhood that met
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knives started stabbing and I saw how the if my profession oh now it's not on I happen very
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intellectually from the i also thought of o but when i the school would the netherlands i can very well
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draw when i go home pieces i can draw their face to the breese given and like a ze
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arrest i came home i forgot i didn't sign until 30 years old i don't add either
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drawing but I was very much coming because I have a and family idea in my head no roof with it she is
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people can do is you were attacked you were bit stabbed eyes stickler that you healthy
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blood my hand kindle steering wheel and ornament and immediate manager as well as track the thought
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and took in all the tooth of the situation ow [ __ ] I'm yes study this I'm getting interesting
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day also immediately thought I recognized this I pronounced from my eggs yes the eye is allowed within my
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desk I was come can you prevent that here dissociation and what is a function of that this
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socially so that you do not avoid anything full partners in the do not avoid through point for
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way a lot of romanticized can you crazy skillful in the just carry on yeah like nothing happened
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and you can see that very clearly in that in in that you see in this scene and also later in the
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movie it's really kind of kind of emotional numb the but that broad you later on i guess
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am always don't go to hide fall find you start warm of transition how come you think
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maybe partly because i put a lot of who to i have to deal with things big yeah
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everyone and each with you you turn and and no one is in danger that man died when with me
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happened see you did not look at me who children were good case for a bastard so it went to pray
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but they adaptive do you also work a lot with people who are in a tin plane crashes
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for example line or a world and so you don't see dissociation either and it goes also think sometimes
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not good either because then you often happen the light it is not good my pants surgeon learned
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it all if you study with 6 see in frightened cases and you become completely
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room that has to do that and then you learn not to have feelings that might make you
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not such a sympathetic person with those people around you not a good resistance but make you a good surgeon yes
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it was a bit off to you too maybe i think i was very dulled by my medical
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training yes but if your back report indeed yes so you don't teach them to have many feelings
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and when how do you see in people that eventually that dissociation or that emotional numbness and well
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is missing because there have to come a moment that doesn't keep it up fun it becomes difficult to
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proportions people to have in your course you go away so a lot of people happens
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constantly dealing with soldiers between generations and no you can I do you don't want anymore
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love people throw good go away because you would tell because you we the morning so that
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is the body shape the score and that also comes from the cito your brain says it's decks
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happened to me it was not bad yes but solution want you very very angry and suddenly you want friends from
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a weird hey you act very scared and your house you close people so it's the background of you
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brain that we call the housekeeping or the body that he keeps marrying with reliving way but
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your mind can absolutely do but we care I tell you I've only had three marriages
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through marriage the new weapon with the the is something wrong with me that I enjoyed that woman
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work out and then them because so a dyke because you have no feelings for the people you are with
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because you're supposed to be emotionally numb yes and suddenly think of me we're always talking about trauma
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but trauma is of course not it is not in the in the dsm in that official classification for
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do you see that is will you have the gelderesch the in the diagnosis you again yes they still have that
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deeper culture is quincy but right now you say trauma that's the best comparison
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and how would you define that than warmer in the poor is an event you can handle completely
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and that overwhelms your whole brain and psychology so that you really don't move what you're doing jeff
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you jeff bridges max in this movie it's called his room would get how they handle it
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this just also wrote psychedelic okay for that time not but how would I actually is
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that trying to listen to the story yes and I won't go into the psychedelic for a while
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mind-altering drugs you would bet on that now discover such a heart
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with the throat like him yes where she is now euro feedback with people she comes him in brain
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connection in the house to change yes now i think that is allowed you have to give me a new feedback you
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so can our technician good thoughts to be able to electroshop people their skulls your goal
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stop and you can measure what the brain is doing and its the under which i can give you it on their computers
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show and thank you play a game with your own brain parts at each you as your brain
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encouraging them to make another brain area actions is actually what people get
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electrons on a skull yes youtube solut yes and they do then they have to do you
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produces on a computer yes we watch you a bit of traffic so you say well I have that
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don't talk to that so we had to social then any geer if that part with that did the party
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then something nice happens then you just let people reminisce about the event
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music you notice by the brain how the worst things but those people this the the client
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look friendly he says I'm going to say more b with me a little more and if x is there is really so then
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say i need to name him another the answers yes we are very and feedback dependent on feedback
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of people so we can use this reasonable event to burn those brains
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make connections to follow and let's take a look at the next fragment
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that is about a form of therapy slide also used now emdr eye movement desensitization and reprocessing
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who they are since it is a smooth say and cried discharges you have also researched the
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effectiveness wage and you again as a treatment method for ptsd but omari had the hope
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what do you do with a really nice current methods and if you for the first about say that completely
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insane that it's also my first reaction definitely more in action from my colleague street
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just a little bit what it looks like what you say here people remember what you saw
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don't tell me because once you are a tell your concentration becomes on you and not
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on yourself your starting point is, for example, that stabbing via so I won't say anything about the
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stripe per theme I feel I put my all into there what do you see what do you still hear
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what happens in your body what do you think about and you keep going in and say you ok
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cities and then you ask people for your weather hey yes raise fingers up and down organ zo
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learn and then calm down and pull up ridiculous things that's what happened and then
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it remains to be an incredibly good treatment that is the eye movement desensitization yes
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so that yes like mambo jambo but it is there this kind the first you the time busy discovered that
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the weird things sometimes work the first time you discover the weird things worked yes very
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important you have included a picture of a client before and after and e-mail action
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seen so that emdr cecil himself that with those finger movements the case we do not see
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mine also with lights I understood at the bottom yes it would look like some gritty images
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december 1994 and january 1995 why did you specifically choose this video video the die so good
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dramatically the two treatments and who sees a this video we see a woman who answered
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bring a friend yes a long time learning once we soft 80 I've never seen anything
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can you go back to mean we can we weekend and describe what we just saw yes maria
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people have not seen fart so you when you sit the first seconds you say safe to her
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because that of course I can also keep things yes yes exactly off the shoulders enough
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the vocal cords become very cool strictly it yes shoulders and she is going to breathe very fast a very
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body treated zeeburg behaves like the very scared person and the superior our over
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prout becomes the bakers and you can see that in her body we all see our sky my eyes
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don't need the can't make sense here yes and what you see is that the more she talks about the more
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the body relive what is going to happen hey 6 tells a story about your car happiness and
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you see cissé the feet move as if they are pressing those drems again and the more the over
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talk the wall bad luck nagging it no different and and the last TV here since all the way so yes
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and then company says right thinks indeed often therapy is that what it is talk about it a lot yes and
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that's between those the growth rings on the shower not always not always how long is she pause
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important but that option de devillé do much more did have a mauve cheese yes but you see
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a time see the person completely scared scared sitting like this and so you as long as we return your body itself
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like that you can't relax but another keeps it locked and when i saw that
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that's exactly what happens to all my patients as soon as they go deeper into the entrance she becomes baker and scared and wild
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talk less about the driver c there is a lot of fear and self-hatred suddenly and the I am so
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soon discovered that the talk about often don't go away you have to do this differently because the body
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keep acting like it's on and you it's lord cover your brain oh yeah
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i creatures long ago but your body bitter team so what you're actually saying is surfing them
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she talks about a memory and because she is reminded him of that event, that reacts
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body as if it takes place in the present if we use student anyway and that is the definition of
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thrones am in now happening now so over but it wont be reminder for what happened it
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becomes a reliving and reliving and every time you think of it remained polite in the every you
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want or when you hear a sound that reminds you of your thinker or sees something that reminds you about you
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something is to on all about sensory input yes it is about how things enter the brain and then
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do you get that other boss being the brain that then evokes the emotions of greenport ik
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think I'd more than sting you their want you all over again that anxious scared terrible
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angry person you were then yes but this is an example of a successful EMDR treatment
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is it 4 weeks between what what happened in the meantime to so that with those then like
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yes but you can explain to me because happened she happened what saw your onesie ring and then pushed
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ibood muntz and then your body enters say so is happening well and continues on
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that moment you get another day 10 years brain come mind' come and that sometimes sometimes not with
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the came to do for example has herself the first time and i am the heart but she is whole
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hard i start to do so and so hair and i sit i him picture of my family dinner
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dinner together next week comes in my brother and I who walked together to
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school passed a tennis court I told you that pebbles through the windows of tennis court big
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he comes running faster than i got caught here and do is i wanna see think i got caught
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then broke drugs pieces name and followed my boy pranks where boys have next time
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and then went back to the original rings she goes what happens after his voice neighborhood garden
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too tired to continue it just became a memory you found more in
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take your ass more distance from the traumatic ones here take more distance so it was gone
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why enjoyable event we all have no it was just click still a
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kind of magic out so my wrassle in all those in line yes but you are already doing scientific
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was rules flirt with needed no there is nothing wrong and lending club but i want what you are too
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sciences so far and certainly you down already lies in on my research for the most acidic research
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for the national mate this over and over again yes so you can also explain to me what it really does
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with you a shipping company that there is problem because so we have a very good examine how well it worked
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yes for adults how much or the harmony that happens once people mature but it
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did not work for child abuse no yes so what happens to you it does happen is good for
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people who are dramatized for the first time and then turned back to a name
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it took more 15 years to raise enough money to learn some or what's in it
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the brain happens but you can hardly explain to me what the theory is behind mtr or it
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with hemispheres theory theories about with those places not exactly courses so me with jenny
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tells me use elastic methods do and I use it under work but how it works at
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the me even as a neuroscientist I now know the opposite I know how it works only took
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me 15 years to berate skin to do this research yes because no more had any
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interested but can you explain to me how they also imitate an ice cream I would named and and
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when we see people is a prince and steps then we see a change in the temple kreisel
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junction that she's a part of the brain that make you feel this is going to happen to me and it
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outside new connection to the left insula that lets you know what your body is happening
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is another change with the threshing lesson on is our cortex that you feel away again in this too
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sometimes off on not off and and year if you talk to us the new of hoe yes but what I understand
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is so you are you point to your right half yes so a right brain sends a signal
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to the go so signals are passed in the brain while your eyes move on that there
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so that thing you thin the scanner and you're going to care people and see what's going on in the brain
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happen what kind of new villain you hear the circuitry need to be opened new connections
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gaal and you connect yes yes and that makes you feel more distance to that is why very in
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therefore by being aware of yes this happened to me but it happened a long time ago and
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those feelings come and the back but dare go brave very good very can because your brain orphans
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it's growing in the past it's not part of 2 it's it's not happening right now yes you have to
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less money this leg circus it so next year they're there barely present there with you one me it
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about was for nice or not so nice whatever but are no clear images no
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the deep feelings the separation unless you something quite an option is going to happen to you and but that is
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just become memory going to change by but then mouse memory don't change and that's it
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problem the trauma is those same things kept coming back go to have your memory
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don't change you say that's why paint see this chip because the first take you see this leave a die is
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totally back in that car accident and see your second part and sister just tell story and she
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talk like she's talking from the teleporter yes it's a distant remembered their body is we come here
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and not there and that bottom put a huge what happens in the brain that you can take care of them
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becomes something with the past and that becomes with the present because married once about it's ram
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not about the events chervet happened because the event but agree
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your brain can't appreciate knowing this happened early then and not now that's the problem
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it foams and you can experience a trauma as an individual, but it can also be done as a family as a collective
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or even as a country apartheid inflicted deep wounds on the people of south africa and the man who
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had to make a restart with the healing of this lived was archbishop desmond tutu
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he led the truth and reconciliation commission and who does cancellation in short trc and a very
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very short what was the purpose of that truth commission once again very so I was me
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a consultant I never dig helpful but you're quite happy to have been more busy and a
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problem was that man in south africa knew very well what happens in india when going to the
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partition had the millions of people through both and you said when our country is born it becomes real
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violence they we invite the come over it's the tsi passed mainly because we can de
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telling the truth and asking forgiveness from each other are volcanic killing and if your south africa
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knew 33 such an incredibly dangerous country in 1992 and people can't wait to see all those white
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to kill people yes very understandable but trueview and find models and alice remia 996
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that boys become m yes they occupied blood have a safe country yes and the procession became the big drum it
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european so soon I've ever met a disco unloading oh yes with therapist or your heroes no
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heard you are heard and the cio clear so we are going to look at an excerpt from a
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documentary about the desmond to two children of delights who passed away last year this my triturus
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or criticize the plans
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its that position know the beeping brothers like girls that is super specific for here with
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mm candy tree what is b to if you have a cow in rehabilitation as tissue mine and symbolism not
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15 have not been there so process is on you cool to solo historical that this is something we still
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officially underestimate and around 1610 want to do with your baby boys best to the girls and a16 and the show
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is complete and pietje is possible on the consumer light4nations
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he to most solid form and you have me was castile disturbance massimo
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tourism is here list add here you go mama
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is good so after limiting can quote record chinese I do
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or war was commission already know my conclusion
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those leads out the same
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he says women talk what makes them special he was such a people dancing with
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people hey pray with people it wasn't just parents who take important me me me too
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listen he sympathized and when it became too much what it regularly wonders
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which series let's sing together let's dance because telling the story is too difficult often
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because once you tell a story, all the heartfelt ones come back into your body and you feel like it
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it happened again and then it continues all the way because he felt in his own body too
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counted in listening was an understanding oh sorry I can't figure out so much he sports a years species
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last sing together let's dance together so he went what a bee we call that pengy you read
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goes into the trauma and when it gets a lot comes out she something that makes people feel safe like
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sing or dance and and we add one with people and you understand for your will and then you go on
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but the your safety brought was incredible by singing and dancing so it's about the healing
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power of your lord the count of the breath of the community the healing power to work together
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be and that ping want art a very big hollow music has always been used to kill people amari
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to help and what is that what what is that healing power of, for example, john and dance what what what
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do that with someone who is traumatized the piece you give what you don't
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enough map is the mothers with children who play are like a child little baby whole
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look very unhappy then you fly darcy you sing with the baby have so singing is music
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older than language lullabies year needed yes o holy that you do the mother who prune about
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the whole world how does the matter which kikuchi coach celebrate and so we do hey cindy hope for the
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scene she on the intestines teach you negative 140 people to sing together to to your life care
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can deal with numbers it's we make music together is an enormously powerful way in which people
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connects we have this so came back from south africa and the students meeuwis just came
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back from a chance and can and cambodia i did it to him sometimes weird africa sense and has more movies
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from cambodia and they were all singing tie they knew something we don't know yes that's here
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at I was they move as advisor ok good I not lazy archive went among other yes now I am a
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little way but then if you pass your job there or if you go then y lipgloss so they paid forms
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trip was not allowed to tell have now the talked and all the members of the club was true are what
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she the trouble path yes like some kind of advisor those hammers they all knew but yes you want you
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don't make a role too big what you hear now I understand no one would do a role well and how do you know after that
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if as 0 fans this might be a bit stiff in the hip and the therapist that suddenly there was dancing and
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sung do well and then me when I left holland enter where you went what also
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which influenced it so i forgot greenish pretty good dances and i learned that the
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also some music transcending just mean white man him pretty good yes but you would it right away
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for me that they don't care about crazy if i only lived my netherlands want become shock
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then you had the guesses to create your own that I discovered very much that each has every culture
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his own way come with hot beasts they are and the zero de parturen bit of culture is like us
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feel bad then drink we was him that my culture of western people that was so real
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feel take weather image is there eh yes and that is now the sad normal in psyche if you have a
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fresh take pill and from people have learned the tour yes sometimes and the pills number me sometimes
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a ship better to sing the dance of singing and dancing together and that the and him and that
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actually reminds you of how your mother didn't have you my mother when I think now yes
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a country where counting if you are born every day by the hundreds then I think and also rene name is too
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a little later can texas yes yes where did she go no no more side happens terrible' abortion
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people the separate say that women are no longer boss in their own bellies tomorrow that and that your children
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must have although you have those children so rape 70 terrible yes my link whole
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the knight to remember that we have a then and our editorial of first conversations with you
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via kiss then you had just finished a jungle with kiev with people who were hiding in there
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one to keep the under glass yes and you talked to that for 9 kissing years after what do you say name and
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insects worked a lot or luydens terrible is going to happen and and for name I will say
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she you have to keep doing things together have to reach his meals you have to have kids for you
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children reading must was when you must do many things because when you themed the you feel physically
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so helpless and they came out end physical experience of the is nothing i can do to matter
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change so your body is not allowed to be paralyzed actually so the first of go people hair
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mother kept doing something what do those people want to do if they can pull such a tunnel there they can do it
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make bed they can even sing make music together but you have to do something also could you connect
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with my other people go get the billig there so if you have obligatory or art ben p
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all your everywhere baby is much easier for you because you see something and you are going to do something about it so you
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becomes much less talented except up the course where you could do nothing so ask yes
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if you have the idea that you are just and if you envy the absurd if you what comes target yes
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whatever ocean do because of course what you said before people are locked up and actually have to
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you unlock yourself yes the natural reaction is mine hear your child she is murdered
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of feet i'm hopelessly out of it are virtues gestures that are always gestures of drama fishing
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yes from paralysis all link archive paralyzed and so if you study him if you are with him see all
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terrible things but you are deservedly taught if something happens day more then you do that
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and if we do you that is and if we find a three years you'd be here with burnt them
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would only have limits but when i take my medicine they say whole thing ok sickle
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i am baby gift by but i can do that and i can do that and do that and become because of it
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ends one ends the motions stand in the way to continue we experience but once you say I am
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it completely helpless and then your body becomes heaven paralyzed and you and 60 years career as
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therapist you have actually done neuroscientific research you have witnessed a
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number of important developments and new insights within your field and for one of
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These important new insights we go back to 1960 a documentary about the so-called
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bonding theories and one of the founders of these is John Bouwbureau and a scientist who
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trying to prove barbies theory was henrich arlo and then go and watch the cbs program
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conquests the episode about noise harlow's investigation titled motherless with my storio
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e-reader than a brass wire what well here arno but and reading on a wire but very baby living
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in london and wire mother bye oh
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oh my bae
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bae bae this is on purpose square your with a child ayse have on with the bank in the much more managing
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who need almost every looking we speak hey welcome to a high level peter this with
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just 510 and strange a warm where the baby makes stupid but fair in well let sperm children again
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needed ali b yes-r in a setting become with wet you guys it
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well always the baby material and product white now
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this with notes by een warm-up daps hoi ali blog
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4000 in the helps much
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well we don't talk we have the talk but because of them
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youngest shift can the region 5 on the wire mother earth kim sit topless in the night in
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the weather restrictions shirt but rather easy where we know the reduction and on a new cycle'
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with contact camps so i could get will that is weather warden passion and teacher purchase
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buddy miller have pear so wrong but god and who else would not have bart hermsen century
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china angry on the track and in best devis brings news where first well bharmal i seriously p
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I don't know how normal and happy monkeys in a laboratory you but let's leave that for a moment
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disregarded that was the most important insights hd interest admit it transport
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very saw when I was at lecture and it is indeed that monkeys that have contact through and that
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go they have more contact north than they need food security yes and and de
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the affiliation and the contact with a relationship is so terribly important and until then
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psychology had paid little attention to it eggerik tot balberghe came a ball bihar be there
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two sides of self drink it that showed how we deeply attached w primate are each other or
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of safety frank very much of rhythms and touch feed your body with each other and that is indeed
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important hey eyes interesting example in psychology means to recommend someone nothing
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we don't do that when treating people you don't deal with your monuments as a therapist
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generally not no as we will see what that is important to learn to take care of your body
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safe to do feeding with other body is a very important part of having a scrape
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happen yes because what we see here is like a baby monkey in this case that group
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who feels that security and that safety, then that brain specializes
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so other than then he dares to play and to discover the i.e. I just want to play
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if you feel safe you can discover limmen if you work you feel safe and that happens and otherwise that
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missing then people become very constrictors are there on time then they do not open and new
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things and don't want to learn new things because they try them bang funny de klinge
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to what what are better but they don't mind about new things yes and then if they do
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then don't experience so no security no warmth than one that mothers own wire iron wire
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you, for example, then they incur attachment damage and how long does something like this continue
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it tasted say the by the by which full generation to generation
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if you don't get so i have very hard to teach your kids to hold them
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sometimes mac like gardo can also be lethal if a cubes have some children animals them
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slowly because to touch their children it was not had to cleave in between squiggles
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glasses yes t security did not feel that not they very environmental work in it was not about
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all the warm I also know a number of people who have become very good nurses
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the whole good warm people leather jackets that had nothing arguing glamor the you can't they
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this follows that no and some people again for this I never had I myself take care of that people
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with whom I work got it so I'm going to specialize now that happens doctor and so here it is
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force that attachment theory based on what time that theory is that an unambiguous something of
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immediately kill well we are several things has this thing because I also have a score of
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attachment styles are the ones that came out of this with it was possible that bob is working with my so know movie
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in much more from today that going on a form pass and so is the boxer he like you
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nothing gets so small child are a number of possibilities one of is feeling but no division
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so you feel constantly abandoned and you may february you make people fear her mad at you
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go but people know you need something the other one is that ring but not feeling juliet
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not to have feelings like you get jeffreys so here's ice cream truck fart lot of important ones
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people who have world that it feels so nothing for other people but boy she is very good at
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rational things to do yes but backgrounds warm emperor do not come no and yet if I here
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Look, I don't quite understand one thing because you have your own thread mother and those fabrics
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mother but it's not true that a soft piece of cloth is the same duke as cuddling like
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interaction so you can't have a baby and if their mother goes to the office for a week on a
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put a soft pillow and that is security is dry than the value of the subject people
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need votes yes points need actions feelings your samchun sometimes it was
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the beginners beginning of john bowlby a label of my friends do you so ceracraft yes and that
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sounds so terribly logical but you already said when he studied washable people that is
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totally unaware that can lower he is still allowed if you have a fly correct device
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wood find america or in the netherlands nobody let you do to nobody what my trip so they fascinate
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to tell me you should think better about edited so we have the we have that attachment theory
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but we still haven't really learned from it I was shocked we learned very little from yes yes so they in
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in of the I was anyway to find bobby and that sea little orwell's book or a magic for is direct
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like from the people of mix social classes in england you are all sending away to these
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topics cools ge 267 and we all know nothing about bonding because the only got no
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so educate your school desks no cuddling and conquer the world and especially the world in a
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hour yes then we sat yesterday he harlow himself can also fall and praise distraught you dance too
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so it also has your own theory not very interesting is also i have three of my good ones
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friends sea were students of his, they do not have more the you to him as a person too
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yes difficult person but still a lot of things we go through my was not a nice father no but me
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want such a good boss must what do you manage rational with way to approach this yes we
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stay with the parent-child relationship with your choice film the film that will be in after this broadcast
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is broadcast in full ingmar bergman classic by ian alexander but later completely spoiled the
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of the film is about a very ins sun the swedish family old bow biography family and i become
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burg my who so gets biography and holes a little bit about your own life and i know exactly
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how it actually youth is there many ways very nice family doing fun things and then
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swords killed she his mother remarried to a terrible vicar who bit she like so
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their Dutch sometimes are hard that good that bad hard that they really mistreated then
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you see young boys treated by themselves but they together and that fanny to something
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the have each other I think the workman see the will they can still say this is really on
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it happen and once you're one you're crazy it's was as a kid got so don't
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know that this happens not because they are wrong as a child for you always this happens too
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discover are bad person but because they have each other they can really see the truth for it
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talk to each other and he can talk and she can see what is happening
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we fall into it the moment that playful and cheerful theater is the father of van jan alexander
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died or and their mother has indeed remarried with divisions as you told
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strict pastor after this broadcast this film can be seen in its entirety funny and alexander
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cover I look at you well they caught them and they threw a story for it or it
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weekly there are those who have drowned and he thinks that he will die and become bartel and his mother
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says oh I give my time we have it nicer and then you get the whole piece
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and marry and loyalty we are normal very loyal people so we must belong to someone
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you must have it at home when you are a child and after those poor children who think they
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will be tortured to death and my mother has chosen this terrible one at the moment
602
01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:16,220
husband and mother no longer protects and so they are alone in the world and then you have to
603
01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:21,650
find in a form way an adjustment to such and this to live this all forgiveness while you
604
01:15:21,650 --> 01:15:28,700
I'm terrified of that gentleman and usually what happens in such a case is that a child says this
605
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:35,360
happens because I'm a bad person then you get a lifelong feeling there's something wrong with
606
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,440
me otherwise she would never drop that to me give you a child if she blames herself
607
01:15:40,670 --> 01:15:48,260
yes then you succeed give no choice we know you no other realities happens in mind that
608
01:15:48,260 --> 01:15:54,740
your parents who must love you don't that's the somewhere then lily and selden
609
01:15:54,740 --> 01:16:01,610
countries are possible suspect I have a video or small so you that our cent that also and
610
01:16:01,610 --> 01:16:08,330
i say what a nice kid i am you and he says he is grandfather are still billion 20 of
611
01:16:08,330 --> 01:16:13,130
my age and i've watched them all and i for worse i'm pretty good but its many
612
01:16:13,130 --> 01:16:20,510
kids know this when i say to with you are very beautiful yootje then becomes reality and if
613
01:16:20,510 --> 01:16:25,670
the counts say you're a little bastard I where I was born here that's it becomes you any more
614
01:16:25,670 --> 01:16:35,540
possible you can compare this no pierci good angle good science and this go those kids in
615
01:16:35,540 --> 01:16:42,580
that case itself is finished the feeling of this happening to me because so really [ __ ] ben becomes
616
01:16:42,580 --> 01:16:49,720
if the case that the strong but for back human you you can be in this look good is that
617
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,700
that may not have happened because of your neck sanne each other brains we are going to explain that they
618
01:16:54,700 --> 01:17:01,959
have each other so they can talk to each other so then he is a bad man and so not because you
619
01:17:01,959 --> 01:17:10,029
your photos and third that have their other reality but if they don't get work around you
620
01:17:10,030 --> 01:17:15,459
test reality more can so discover other than the heavens friend let you other
621
01:17:15,459 --> 01:17:21,549
work yes but if no one says is not your fault a mini bad then you are stuck there
622
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:30,820
is that is that loneliness of such a story you can't share sometimes maybe almost
623
01:17:30,820 --> 01:17:41,020
worse than what really happened the previous book for this one uses them a lot word dammit
624
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:48,550
god damn sure because of his good name for nadia you so my god my god why do you have toilet
625
01:17:49,060 --> 01:17:56,620
she felt very deeply me very deep loneliness I am different I don't hear you I like you well
626
01:17:56,620 --> 01:18:02,500
i'm a bad person i deserve what happens to me and that becomes what problem if
627
01:18:02,500 --> 01:18:08,680
you get bigger yes and actually they are each other's rescue here than the brother and a sister
628
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:16,390
yes more or less they help each other yes yes i will understand that i had to you too small chance
629
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:21,850
Go for a walk which immediately read your book cells and in your book you write about your own
630
01:18:21,850 --> 01:18:28,180
childhood and your own father corner around the man every morning I every morning while the rest of
631
01:18:28,180 --> 01:18:32,170
the family still slept softly down the stairs before walking to pray and read the bible
632
01:18:32,170 --> 01:18:37,720
reading so horribly hot-tempered how come someone whose life was so devoted to the pursuit of
633
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:45,580
social justice carry so much anger no matter how she saw your father's anger
634
01:18:45,580 --> 01:18:53,880
out that the laurels like if this priest have you ide so it must be absolutely not
635
01:18:53,880 --> 01:19:01,530
with water so the same in camp and very early what kind of place and was 2020 work camp I wimpie
636
01:19:01,530 --> 01:19:08,490
she rest assured my laces do not want this order much away and not even until a jew both went on
637
01:19:08,490 --> 01:19:15,750
other people grandeur dutch share other things and obey my father one rule
638
01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:22,920
sin speaks against speaking and as 3 wood growth she said to my father father have sat a camp
639
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:28,260
to fight 30 but do it now do it yourself with your own children like the nazis did to you
640
01:19:28,260 --> 01:19:36,090
very early start what I of this is not right was a commander of that your advice no own
641
01:19:36,090 --> 01:19:42,690
opinion you can have yes you have become a very early call because of that but what did you do
642
01:19:42,690 --> 01:19:49,680
father save you taught my pulse sometimes loud and search the cellar locks up in the cellar
643
01:19:49,680 --> 01:20:00,990
but how long my vocation lasts felt very long to be yes in your objectives long it was
644
01:20:00,990 --> 01:20:11,459
was and how the model that then I always played with I will be sweet belly wanted very afterwards
645
01:20:11,459 --> 01:20:19,709
a lot of contempt falls from myself that I didn't have that no more guts luck that I want
646
01:20:19,709 --> 01:20:26,489
say yes yes I will I will go with you spear is all you do you wanted to bother you was right
647
01:20:26,490 --> 01:20:30,870
but you cried I would be sweet yes yes you want we I had a lot of contempt for myself
648
01:20:35,340 --> 01:20:43,410
lessons seven jump click ted lesson or story what your sexes should then are not you
649
01:20:43,410 --> 01:20:50,280
Showing your vulnerable side yes how did that work for you as adults
650
01:20:53,060 --> 01:20:59,690
well you see it play out and then you go to therapies and you do all the work what
651
01:20:59,690 --> 01:21:09,110
you touch the other people and then gradually you can pray for you deal the tell me
652
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:15,110
that there was a lot of work to do and you also knew because you had all the theories and he also knew that
653
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:18,350
you ran a big risk on the top where you pass your own children because we just had that
654
01:21:18,350 --> 01:21:26,510
had we already learned if you were afraid of that no actually I go with a friend power lasted
655
01:21:26,510 --> 01:21:32,420
quite long before I discovered that I myself also furious screamers the most good therapist
656
01:21:32,420 --> 01:21:39,440
you being that they become therapists with a real 8 round bases in that i didn't know for a long time
657
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:46,340
actually yes that by discovering in you yes a miracle tenant who does not go by yourself because you
658
01:21:46,340 --> 01:21:51,020
actually also by count but he had to start plow and therefore other people with
659
01:21:51,020 --> 01:21:59,000
it took two long time and your mother that was the one who gave you nice spacious room come here
660
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:12,350
my mother was like the women put in the paint don't take cher now my father wasn't
661
01:22:12,350 --> 01:22:17,390
I benevolent persons your father locked you in the cellar but now with the true corpses of a
662
01:22:17,390 --> 01:22:23,270
nice man also mind back to nice things yes they are there I didn't want the book so
663
01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:29,600
go into a lot but no mothers wants a lot big problem in which way it wasn't like that
664
01:22:33,890 --> 01:22:42,380
social things where a lot of good things like that I'm grandfather it from your boerhaave 1917 or something about
665
01:22:42,380 --> 01:22:48,860
bike trade start of course from the the floor epidemic from you take in their he got it
666
01:22:48,860 --> 01:22:55,250
that plus rp to stand I say where she walked and it became paralyzed and so never again is never
667
01:22:55,250 --> 01:23:01,230
got out of bed more what happened so it was there were no social facilities
668
01:23:01,230 --> 01:23:06,870
so the spanish flu made that family completely dead from my mother
669
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:13,980
had to go to work at 14 and worked very well and between their young wife
670
01:23:13,980 --> 01:23:22,530
is we wetzel 4th place and oil companies was very smart true to nature the she of a
671
01:23:22,530 --> 01:23:27,930
married woman in 1939 in the netherlands not yet working with threatening you at home you are not allowed
672
01:23:27,930 --> 01:23:31,830
more worse that's a terrible thing from my mother if my mother could have turned out
673
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:39,960
keep working there was a certain fun case remained but she was wim powder and so this die
674
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:45,240
by the way that vista through their families and so and they was not yours are those
675
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:50,310
man sneakers fire gives us all as there is now for herself she was won
676
01:23:56,490 --> 01:24:00,900
Do you think I appreciate the added value of a miracle trailer
677
01:24:03,390 --> 01:24:09,570
so you must know where it hurts free must understand we humans the lord have gone
678
01:24:10,980 --> 01:24:16,590
you should really do better what it is to be very afraid be very angry at having left you
679
01:24:16,590 --> 01:24:21,810
to feel that are very important things to have experienced yourself also good therapist true
680
01:24:21,810 --> 01:24:28,920
you were born in the hague 1953
681
01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:37,170
in the middle of the second world war and in that context you want to show the attack
682
01:24:37,170 --> 01:24:41,940
harry difficult yes but is the film about the many people still have
683
01:24:41,940 --> 01:24:46,770
but also an attack but what is more connected is about a family and
684
01:24:46,770 --> 01:24:52,680
on the canal in haarlem you forgive you blew me trying very hard the war
685
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:57,540
to survive at some point a policeman is shot dead in front of the door
686
01:24:57,540 --> 01:25:06,660
groups is story me make a long story short they are suspected that they did it
687
01:25:07,380 --> 01:25:16,350
they killed his dad your mom a pool party day by the ss and he gets a cell on insane met
688
01:25:16,351 --> 01:25:23,941
a knife limit idea participated in the murder of that cop and they are holding each other
689
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:30,840
he is the requirements safe are they safety for him it's a young boy he the half hour sons
690
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:35,100
the head 12 years old is a jets his family this is a misunderstanding about it seems what for their house
691
01:25:35,101 --> 01:25:41,340
was placed here and therefore free family is suspected of murder and content that becomes a bit
692
01:25:41,340 --> 01:25:47,310
so have a very strong bond what people form when people are very scared then form lilies pull bond
693
01:25:47,311 --> 01:25:53,041
little boy is it very attached to that woman that empty michel that for that one evening will be
694
01:25:53,041 --> 01:26:00,360
there and later to beatty a girl who on a again reminiscent of that woman delivers farmer
695
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:06,810
in love with yes and then gradually the memories come in and the feelings are already coming back
696
01:26:06,811 --> 01:26:13,381
over many years we had or pressure of right to a solid excerpt from the film classic
697
01:26:14,130 --> 01:26:19,860
that that is not the case is not up to us cnn not to the will of the editors of summer guests
698
01:26:20,610 --> 01:26:25,050
but the images have the rights that they are already in the hands of amazon to great surprise
699
01:26:25,771 --> 01:26:30,780
have then been able to get a small piece and say a lot about it yes the clamp will be
700
01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:37,800
dutch and they made automatic things to translate but once dutch it
701
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:42,990
is complete nonsense the subtitle a subtitle the yes but by the noodles and out to yourself so
702
01:26:42,990 --> 01:26:47,070
Bought in America for the movie so yes no one could see it what kind of chrome
703
01:26:47,070 --> 01:26:52,950
incomprehensible because the department mambo jambo so I was stunned doctors you one allows to
704
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:57,510
to show that film because his golden film is impossible in america can sell someone
705
01:26:57,510 --> 01:27:02,719
see you sometime you really want to show where it was a pricey affair
706
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,600
the will not dedicate too much government we were able to get a small piece
707
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:10,820
and in addition, we see harry mulisch himself who will be interviewing about his book the attack
708
01:27:16,970 --> 01:27:22,220
far away in the second world war and certainly anton Steenwijk lived with his parents and
709
01:27:22,220 --> 01:27:28,910
his brother on the outskirts of Haarlem it was January 1945 almost all of Europe was liberated
710
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:36,110
celebrated at drank made love and slowly started to forget the war but
711
01:27:36,110 --> 01:27:40,310
Haarlem turned more and more into a big cinder like it had the stove out
712
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:45,800
came when there were still coals so harry mulisch outlines the time and place of the act
713
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:50,840
The first chapter of his new novel The Attack protagonist is a 12-year-old boy whose family
714
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:56,270
unwittingly becomes involved in an attack as retaliatory measures merge the German het
715
01:27:56,270 --> 01:28:02,510
whole family only the main character is spared musicians outline how the attack affects the life of the man
716
01:28:02,510 --> 01:28:08,479
continues to determine and each phase of life is confronted again with the war harry
717
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:15,619
mulisch your book tells that man's life until 31 when at least that episode's that immediately
718
01:28:15,620 --> 01:28:21,770
don't relate to this his life people book down episodes with it
719
01:28:21,770 --> 01:28:26,060
whole life is paid for by rituals world order is a copy is for your generation
720
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:34,700
ohh it is so far determining look it is of course not a man who and a syndrome
721
01:28:34,700 --> 01:28:40,970
so he is constantly busy with it and it also has nightmares but it
722
01:28:40,970 --> 01:28:45,080
is not that that incident makes his life impossible as many people who
723
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:50,660
have been in concentration camp or something for treatment so it shouldn't be like that but look at it
724
01:28:50,660 --> 01:28:56,990
is now such a drastic event that it is always light that lurks and makes
725
01:28:56,990 --> 01:29:02,000
also known and certainly assie met people who had to do with it, for example
726
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:08,860
the man who committed that attack resistance fighter or of those who were involved because
727
01:29:08,860 --> 01:29:12,880
I kept happening very strange that I might not need to talk about now
728
01:30:04,930 --> 01:30:07,870
you put there
729
01:30:07,870 --> 01:30:11,800
have to
730
01:30:17,790 --> 01:30:23,670
this is a place in heiloo where the war absolutely nothing happened but where i
731
01:30:23,670 --> 01:30:29,730
novel the attack had an attack on a fascist police inspector who was here
732
01:30:29,730 --> 01:30:35,730
the sidewalk would have been shot but to that house there set on fire by the day is striking now
733
01:30:35,730 --> 01:30:40,860
that even though this is all made up people still come back to this place and go around here
734
01:30:40,860 --> 01:30:46,950
look how do you explain that that I explain because the imagination is apparently stronger
735
01:30:46,950 --> 01:30:51,960
then had a reality in it that disappeared is it it even occurs I have those people
736
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:57,240
god that people want to go in there and look at the house, so this was the conservatory
737
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:02,400
while the on has happened and b in my tree in my book besides that house around everything was eyes
738
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:07,410
but good is so unreal apparently and i hope the figure can take that as a client
739
01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:22,320
it's a 1986 movie from oscar came out in america then you saw what did it do to you
740
01:31:22,980 --> 01:31:29,910
martin de heli deep impression on me tip me very much thinking of the fact that I am so on the one
741
01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:36,000
of the second war were born dry and the very deep impression they made on me
742
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:41,820
true about stories about people who survived your camp in came back
743
01:31:41,820 --> 01:31:48,810
and that fear that the always was it he says mini says it's all made up
744
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:57,330
it wasn't all made up all those things happened and all that thing say part of my joints
745
01:31:57,330 --> 01:32:05,100
and my friends my family add imprint of reality the word became whole are in deep
746
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:10,860
experience that second world war that still draws us all we have so I had two
747
01:32:10,860 --> 01:32:18,510
very good buddies in primary school saw one of ethic gistel the other was a german one
748
01:32:18,510 --> 01:32:27,280
boy and cortina died and she just told us oh yeah when i was little my mom is
749
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:35,470
fled berlin my father was a gira had the ss and at home and your mother has with the
750
01:32:35,470 --> 01:32:41,380
being thrown out the window in the arms of an English she act because the other side is true
751
01:32:41,380 --> 01:32:47,440
the russian let and i own must my mother circles forces be scale e the room gone
752
01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:56,410
yes so and that he talked for hours about your experience 3 2 years and that was the experience
753
01:32:56,410 --> 01:33:04,840
of us all x i grew up and scheveningen all the big most houses where destroyed they played
754
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:11,470
in the cellars and houses we found guns from the pistols we bunkers so all it was all
755
01:33:11,470 --> 01:33:18,430
very much our life and the stories that people who died came back here they came for their word
756
01:33:18,430 --> 01:33:24,160
and what specifically came to your mind then you do this movie template was of course really a
757
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:34,780
really and and pierre too bad the wood kept with me and the all the people I know from that time very
758
01:33:34,780 --> 01:33:41,440
were very busy with our livable heavy use things with the bombed people
759
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:49,540
came out back in these jap camps and it was very much a part of our early childhood and what
760
01:33:49,540 --> 01:33:55,960
mainly impressed me this movie is that it gets stuck on that girl with whom
761
01:33:55,960 --> 01:34:03,520
would be in jail and that whole tree determines for their family house family can keep up with
762
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:10,390
who drew that close that the whole joints there by the way experience they life deeply yes actually
763
01:34:10,390 --> 01:34:15,580
actually that trauma interrupts his life story a bit like you get stuck at that moment
764
01:34:15,580 --> 01:34:23,830
yes that they bags that beam you got stuck yes the head to come back to all kinds of unexpected
765
01:34:23,830 --> 01:34:31,180
manners your child the same age when you were equally powerful and suddenly you two can no longer
766
01:34:31,180 --> 01:34:35,810
take care of the child or study such things and you in the movie we see it very clearly
767
01:34:35,810 --> 01:34:43,100
indeed dante did the main character who was in the cell with that young woman yes we see the lord
768
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:48,440
the kisses are over or the one who got hers and and in the movie you see that every
769
01:34:48,440 --> 01:34:55,520
times at specific moments [ __ ] comes back how it works that's what I read
770
01:34:55,520 --> 01:35:01,940
in your book an example of one and patients you really that after a few decades back to you
771
01:35:01,940 --> 01:35:08,210
he came back to you in the treatment room at some kind of core moment in their lives
772
01:35:08,210 --> 01:35:16,760
lion companions see what you see or what you hear is all your sensory where we are become
773
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:23,840
associated with your deep emotions that you see as certain things or hear bonding a bit
774
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:30,080
suddenly back in that state you have no idea what kind of state you and it's me suddenly
775
01:35:32,330 --> 01:35:36,890
I don't want to have anything more to do madam solution became necessary transport to leave
776
01:35:36,890 --> 01:35:43,970
or to walk away or i'm terribly mad at you don't know why she was mad not from
777
01:35:43,970 --> 01:35:50,450
oh that reminds me of it that's why but is already getting angry his sin automatically associations that
778
01:35:50,450 --> 01:35:56,450
be made in the right one for you yes and that that client who writes him image if i'm right
779
01:35:56,450 --> 01:36:01,610
remember you can tell at which moments he ends up with you again by the first die
780
01:36:01,610 --> 01:36:10,490
seeing them came back his same age and he had just had a baby and every guest got it
781
01:36:10,490 --> 01:36:18,680
baby met expectations the work was the domino as a starting point home had he saw no dead
782
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:24,770
children he what he was crazy name employed have swear allegiance brand in vietnam and he what with the
783
01:36:24,770 --> 01:36:32,840
clique and whole so auditoriums between nations biolicious my colleague said he o is kids a
784
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:39,140
frame that the prior thought and I had free performs with since previous work now agrees
785
01:36:39,140 --> 01:36:45,650
something different and coincidentally say the same what freud your time for real what is it no i don't think so
786
01:36:46,250 --> 01:36:52,190
suffered as bad lay your whole so certainly against well you can go to the schizophrenia hospital
787
01:36:52,190 --> 01:36:58,580
to go see if you can treat come this boy I this is especially busy is it I'm going to work with him
788
01:36:58,580 --> 01:37:05,600
and blah blah so a workout season link block from a horse of test is to spot times so
789
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:13,550
it very bad i ran the conversion and he we terrified you oh my god that's that baby de
790
01:37:13,550 --> 01:37:21,590
death went and my arms in vietnam and now i got yourself and lg assen child then
791
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:29,240
fly the same as there are ten who never was responsible for such a thing in you vietnam so that
792
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:42,260
tires like how she could went pretty well 18 years later I throw all that mail and you no that you less
793
01:37:42,260 --> 01:37:49,430
seems I don't get you directly last week gave a lecture beijing where I talked about your workshop
794
01:37:49,430 --> 01:37:58,850
from the sea that is and I have a lot later and and she well I pretended to enjoy riddler
795
01:37:58,850 --> 01:38:05,930
and he said last week i want two scares that i had a son there is growing and annick is
796
01:38:05,930 --> 01:38:14,930
really very good and last week had to i had to take my chin lego HQ today so he
797
01:38:14,930 --> 01:38:22,280
lying in could go and it could be gold ring yes and all those troubles room back there are
798
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:28,820
now given the act with two and then I miss again over we went to try so and
799
01:38:28,820 --> 01:38:38,420
then hobby back later still 10 15 years later and he said well I have a very mysterious biological
800
01:38:38,420 --> 01:38:45,650
trouble and if i have to preach the cake i just fall can give now and then have no power
801
01:38:45,650 --> 01:38:52,290
more you my feet and sounds like furniture course my doctors thick not it's notebooks boxes
802
01:38:52,290 --> 01:38:58,620
so i only have one my wife has a residential building sea pinwheel wheelchair can sit
803
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is it I was in the handicap person our whole story yes nothing against it yes that is very important
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that you do and you say well I just started yoga myself I started studying bio and I find
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it terribly door and if your body your story might be good well through to really pay attention
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sing your body new york do your body here now you stab it let me always their lord loves yoga
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do and I occasionally hear cases now has yoga instructor of people who soldiers in Afghanistan
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they changed slightly but are used to pleasurable experiences and who stand but
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she revival and has a very rich life three very healthy responsible great fun I want something
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move you are a psychiatrist and really know people over many years and see how they develop
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as a very nice he can also you back on those specific core moments indeed those then
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feelings is all sense who experience' the desk plaster score this pilgrim stories you feel
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you gave up on is just silly or scared or angry but not from this too this reminds me of that day
815
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in vietnam no there is no direct reason sometimes yes but usually not so
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you started your career as a psychiatrist treating veterans mainly in vietnam
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both the mail is not understood but that the row free the beginning and in that context you want the
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movie the hurt locker show yes about a veteran from your the iraq war and about
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that term the hurt locker on that means that means your dresses you close your youth
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pain off decoy you lock it up yes you stop it now at home yes decoy his class yes reviews
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put your feelings away now in blue and then you think you locked them up but they are
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of course there is still exactly yes from the people around it will say tjechie what are you doing
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there oh I can't trust you you belong for angry or I don't know where you are will you are
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drinkable but people usually didn't know the origin of this woke up
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so met at wit hane main complaint was i don't feel anything
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i wrote letters to my girlfriend trick who was vietnam she kept my life
827
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and I came home I didn't feel like she wanted to get married when it turned out to have married well
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children but I don't feel anything from the children now show current brain research as
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people are busy with things commanded and you see nothing happened brain and when they go back
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to a tama becomes to be all alive so the you your your bed who dredges you get a
831
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new brain setup after trauma which makes you very good to be busy with raw but me
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can those people is busy with ordinary things so the kind of problem to treat warm
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is to help make you feel alive here today and not constantly as
834
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interpret them through the light from your horse windows and so one of the things I often do wrong
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in psychatry we keep getting married over you together but your fat aspect that
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his terrible mistake we made because that dream became 40 more important and the
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remains life less and less important to that I have one of the groups that miss cartoon
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with trellis groups who had all fought in bastogne in he gets you 1942
839
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only thing they could talk about was what i'm going to happen that christmas in bastogne so i said did you
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wife you your child by you you ever do had her job you but all that meant was their
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war to and vests of lighting yes yes that because you also see it in the fragment indeed that this one
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soldier this change ethic that says plane up like a son i only love one thing and
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don't mean that sons yes he means war k and them out you can't often don't
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stand to be with oneself 's very difficult to experience and feel for yourself when you yourself
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you all that fear that pain so as long as you're busy doing things you can get the pain back
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push the door yes you also see in the supermarket that he is agnese and really don't know how anymore
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show it around a normal 9 you can't distinguish anymore what you're going to do that's not always
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important the study the take your friend yard well you did who looked at the harvard case of itunes zul
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you to the for the to the gym to the war and the people who tested a gentleman who 540 with them
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and through 1991 and the people who dined no trauma holder told completely different story
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in 1945 so a normal brain change the story but the people who were passed 45
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where you still tell the same 1941 so deceive that you are still growing seems to me to be those
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preconditions of that bankruptcy has been different from the heads because they have the same
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had an experience you even had a very nice album but never them now of course not the same bit
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handy yes a bit of national do you want to either kill people or not kill people
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or you have your best friend dorsi go you those are not all embarrassing heavy his deep fall from you
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but the pieces second piece I want to say is that the people who were based were better at
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a profession than man are not manufactured because they hid themselves a profession so peasant
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college is a very good adaptation of came and once you get a good education
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can you often stor you pour in your work but their marriages we want their children terribly
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nothing to do with it but they had more more more nutrition in cow is shoe brands than people who
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not based out of the shed such a based word is very good at getting into job in ultimate relationship
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don't draw a story from hove about their yes the book to talk about that dress
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with brussels too but wait a minute because I also want a little longer because you also chose the fragment
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because of that scene with a boy and that and that devil from a box because and a war trauma
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also does something with your imagination and that's what we see here of course Jan so die
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so don't necessarily close war malfunction view the small ring nothing more k so for
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we are guilty sitting outside today having a glass of beer and reading the beautiful book
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see enjoy the little things for him very the who see that when I had to shop
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this is what you just told about that client of your butt that you heard saw that test see see and he said I
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see here a dead baby boy in your book i read that there was also a group of veterans the shutter
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group indeed iraq dead baby abutments people me also had a group can i take my rings out of you
873
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pants lodi in that spot nothing wrong at all axa wf imagination full parts to zo en
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what is the consequence to the cover you that you have no life as long as you do not have more things
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can see and your examples then you just do the routine of going there every day because you
876
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maybe can't organize a better future you can i beg can shake images
877
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want the village let's think about it another possibility is of course terrible
878
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difficult marcheurs there with soap and the can't imagine how it could be otherwise no
879
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and so you really have to be very active trying other things we took it to show the other
880
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things are possible on a very deeper level and you told that in the beginning so in the treatment the
881
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mistake was made to talk about it over and over that do sister do yes and that you then
882
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turned out now what do you do now I do started warm but I dare say I do them yes then things
883
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which they like to pass by right away, he also thought it was funny to read that you
884
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himself conscientious objector was absolutely yes why does he not want to be employed nicely asked family of
885
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service became earth and a very important tradition am the very good reason was that i did have feeling
886
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that if I got a machine gun I might be drilled in of the gyrus there would be
887
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are those who have the pleasure and hardship of killing people because people have fun killing people
888
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and once you open it you see people really being sadistic and that i wanted piece by piece
889
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didn't get to know me you were afraid you will enjoy it you want it apparently you base it
890
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that on then maybe it will be with you ohoh I was just really aware to myself yes but I know
891
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the enough people who really had fun killing people and don't get to know that side all of that
892
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I don't want it now you personally don't want it what I thought wouldn't get over it if
893
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once I'd done things like that in the war I didn't think I'd come back like that
894
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all the existential necessity of me not to survival yes and sink daleks them
895
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have already been mentioned and methods to treat veterans with ptsd we do not succeed again dream no
896
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but that's what we're going to see so that's why sorry treat you enjoyed twitter poor psyche
897
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doors club 100 okay that's what your garage see you've never done that digital because of your dream
898
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it's nature okay no that's why I quote it indeed because we where we're going
899
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going to watch is a a veteran being treated with the pressure and lima i one or that one
900
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bureau you act yes lemdina the active ingredient in ecstasy and we are going to see a session with an iraq
901
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veteran do you explain something about it we can start thinking it is important that he does his
902
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tag them back on but when you get to know prays he left became babies act like little too
903
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little boy and herbert handcuffed so I'm going to hear you are always whole read here how different
904
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905
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908
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well I'm very happy with what's happening with this so we're just watching my we looked at
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friends the midoffice and before eight you lie there and your lesson lasts 8 hours long and often
936
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do you talk so much you just lie there things go do your mind and memory fluctuates
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and sometimes they are very painfully difficult then you go the moisture now your real you learn to see yourself
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and experienced and you I just wrote down again that whoever spoils article 2 jurgen a lot
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deeper sense of this is me and this she happened to me and here don't be afraid of yourself anymore
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it is so he has committed the atrocities as they do there too often and and use them best friend
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has died and will be terribly anxious and so if you take akke dirks you will feel things
942
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well but you can still you can go one day the van will run away from it and so you see very
943
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difficult things said yes it was then I caught my own self viewer without judging you
944
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can see yourself there is a very common thing is constantly seeing me also meet the vision
945
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946
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respond to the deaf his friend he killed those children and me terrible that poor one
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I do that and we say now I understand what happened but they got almost nothing for us the beauty
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leader say almost nothing to you you just help people to what you then I say what see
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you were going on how to wash through but you don't put anything there and really come it's even singing and what
952
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so you see is that you are traumatized we have his opinion make you people but could be everything
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to forget so declare everything yes you make you except the that people always so fence and say
954
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oh i was like that because i was china you say oh i was me i was 18 years old and i was awesome
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angry and my think you got killed and then i got so angry for heaven incest survivors de
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I see that say I was declared because I was my very lively sexual little girl and that's why
957
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did it happen so i can never have sexual feelings again other than do the same again
958
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to myself really mattered i let myself be mistreated so people you are terrified of them
959
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own sexuality for example about my own words or own feelings and if the lord
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wegg and said yes that's why it happened and I locked the piece with it my name can it go back
961
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from between part yes you learn to look at yourself with compassion is what you say he also says very
962
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in the pigment of it's amazing how in control siphoned this sentence i wrote it down while
963
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you at busiest I often have the association with losing control how do you explain that
964
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lose control oh that's where you never know where you never know what will happen
965
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hey that's why the environment is so important give so people are you have to be people people who
966
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the real you feel became more great fear is when these things nobles are taken away
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they are in the Netherlands would go the mm not yet that moment everyone will use racks is not
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legal in the Netherlands don't do it that I'm not so clever les lamai check but I am me
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go no just very harmless medicines sauce it after you're afraid just when it becomes legal then
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then starts in here starts taking to work the wrong circumstances in
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can you write good people got a whole book from dip khatami in the mail he said
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just take it these things you shouldn't just take some all kinds of very difficult things
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come in the upstairs room india happen to it the name bank done to him yes for that under principal
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investigator of the city did not do more than she had to do and how did that go well
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interesting for me for the first dress and that mead I said my questions we how is it how
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are you so happy so much married to you married to very the with the treat is it oh
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if you have friends and you write about them you have nice people to work you have a good marriage he
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isn't it so bad when the first app that usually treasure all came out well-based people who
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saw me look up I felt all the misery that slowly I will be in 40 years and I slaughterhouses
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a certain affected can i am much more careful with getting married i did then was it is what it with
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by partying there already air man that you all kinds of whole proclamation things often come at you and
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how does something like this work because of what you are under you are going to show in a kind of daze influence literally whistled
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under the influence of drugs but that effect continues longer apparently you want to see
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a whole new dimensions of your life you really see yourself very handy me actually
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affect yes you have learned that it did to you and then also before no eye for now until the
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it looks like when you see someone's e-mail something like this you say well i see a piece of reality i it
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did not see and what is it called you changed because by looking at yourself with your compassion and
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feeling by feeling that is that all that experience of people does indeed touch you what the
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f youth my wife says there I you become much nicer man coarse not quite but nice
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It's that things are more accepted from people so I'd say this doesn't get so annoyed
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it wasn't enough you should do that better I understand but you suffered outside yes yes the move
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cold the title refers to the doubt with which main character sister bouvier sausage or where more
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when she suspects that one of the students is being abused by a pastor as by flynn
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and there are those we are going to see in it sister bouvier confronts the boy's mother with her
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suspicions we go marry slip scene and viola davis in that people faster you my hair problem
1006
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1009
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i'm concerned about the relationship between
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father francis to someone's signs in shops and in that may not be right
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with him a few times pi types no evidence well a label is of course
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i think of d-double world heat some oil more expensive
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it then on an acting streams lego nothing to the cinema inside so luster poor living in the trouble
1020
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island to look for grip that are clear can chop it in white bar that's why I need a tumor here like
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johannesolie sounds app free skate then on deadline it julia thank you
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make something between your simple and fast more in the
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social deal
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kilowatt show time no more than you
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relationship to do so you know i know i'm like
my god en ons up like pepper showing you do
1035
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come on you
1036
02:07:37,930 --> 02:07:46,990
this is father is constantly happening from something is happening in the family family
1037
02:07:46,990 --> 02:07:56,800
and people don't have the courage to say it's the truth so what happened and certainly if
1038
02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:05,020
we say then we have no income bear or the break the family apk and for many people you know
1039
02:08:05,020 --> 02:08:14,080
is the blind eye of the other family members even worse than the bus landing itself because you have no one you
1040
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:22,390
believe no one wants to see it and it's it's a real problem argument dark till her am you can
1041
02:08:22,390 --> 02:08:31,750
him himself no job but my children go and fruit now again said have my children have
1042
02:08:31,750 --> 02:08:37,570
really don't have enough do you eat if i don't have a good scholten this one let me and
1043
02:08:37,570 --> 02:08:44,620
that is very much case where we came we later but then we pretend nothing is wrong and
1044
02:08:44,620 --> 02:08:50,920
for many of my patients, that second thing is still difficult about not seeing the first thing
1045
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:58,330
to become and no one says the you can't join can you do that that's the big one
1046
02:08:58,330 --> 02:09:03,250
drama of the people who beast to students to ten years my of not being heard
1047
02:09:03,250 --> 02:09:10,050
nothing can be seen and that you don't care what actually happens to you because for
1048
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to me it is more important to stay single because income get some and each then see what
1049
02:09:15,180 --> 02:09:21,750
she you it happens and is real they have you this arm or black for her children blood it input
1050
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then university you and aids very few opportunities and say i can't afford to see
1051
02:09:28,350 --> 02:09:35,790
what to do the goers yes put is a tag and is real very very difficult to and then ask
1052
02:09:35,790 --> 02:09:42,300
what can you avoid wario yes yes what suspicion is there according to you and it happens to doctors
1053
02:09:42,930 --> 02:09:48,510
answer a question now but suspicion is long had I feel I feel before I understood
1054
02:09:48,510 --> 02:09:56,790
and I'll talk to him about what's going on and what what we really why she doesn't think so
1055
02:09:56,790 --> 02:10:01,560
so nice oh why did they have those opportunities but in all of us people just didn't dare to go
1056
02:10:02,250 --> 02:10:07,740
the parents of many park as lieke priests I have so all my very active in that
1057
02:10:07,740 --> 02:10:13,290
cases of those Christian priests yes because you delivered from them next to more than 20 years ago how
1058
02:10:13,290 --> 02:10:21,270
it started a big yes abuse scandal of boys in the catholic church revealed so i was
1059
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:27,660
first psyche you should be working on it because you got it when mature I assume men
1060
02:10:27,660 --> 02:10:33,690
who were abused at the time little boy signal treatment room now get or find yes via did
1061
02:10:33,690 --> 02:10:38,490
I think I was the archive actor yes but first about the tapes because you have to you get them
1062
02:10:38,490 --> 02:10:42,270
I am me what you think don't treat limburg as one again
1063
02:10:42,270 --> 02:10:49,650
great hover or roman region experiences yes so i was hired to testify for this
1064
02:10:49,650 --> 02:10:55,620
hat you are that expert witness in those lawsuits surrounding that abuse scandal a very
1065
02:10:55,620 --> 02:11:00,630
many places very many cases yes why did you do that why that your testimony can hope that
1066
02:11:00,630 --> 02:11:07,530
i was one of the few people who sacrifice something masureal who knew yes because i specially studied
1067
02:11:09,210 --> 02:11:13,800
but what was your motivation because you thought I'm the only one who can do this well or did you have another
1068
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:20,590
other form where we fall south limburg who does not want not like us viola davis there are there
1069
02:11:20,590 --> 02:11:27,940
there's nothing wrong here because I examined the people who were all broken I really
1070
02:11:27,940 --> 02:11:34,360
seen hundreds who were all beautiful people who tell bus all clash the same story
1071
02:11:34,360 --> 02:11:42,580
hat happened and yes you could see that that happened to those men what what was the common denominator
1072
02:11:42,581 --> 02:11:48,131
common denominator was all terrified we were about very weak is where almost all bodybuilder
1073
02:11:50,380 --> 02:11:58,510
it is I experience so even very weak it and dresses meadows full of test or zone injections
1074
02:11:58,510 --> 02:12:04,330
or look behind and they couldn't do anything they couldn't have a thieme relationship with people who couldn't
1075
02:12:04,331 --> 02:12:09,670
just proportionately maintained is where broken pastry people like what we don't have
1076
02:12:09,670 --> 02:12:19,180
seen indeed marry someone can do so I have ridge from Tuesday morning yes one of those
1077
02:12:19,181 --> 02:12:24,311
man and for back in time as an expert witness who remember the abuse only after everyone
1078
02:12:24,311 --> 02:12:29,740
had read about it in the newspaper and she and his girlfriend de roovere started what what does that say
1079
02:12:29,740 --> 02:12:38,050
about his memory it is normal for people not to want we have this one that is very arkady
1080
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full pillow warmer by i love and how we have archives over 300 day 3,000 self zo
1081
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concentration on camp or learned how many quarters of can't remember anything about what happened never
1082
02:12:54,101 --> 02:13:03,610
decor and so very good studies of after sometimes with you people everything sometimes used a few
1083
02:13:03,610 --> 02:13:11,770
pieces of it and sometimes missing with the very large pieces yes and then that can come up again to
1084
02:13:11,771 --> 02:13:16,960
them michel study and especially for rising I share for example he when one feels inside
1085
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:26,179
feel safe as you i am i saw then fill you can come a new one yes we happen
1086
02:13:26,180 --> 02:13:34,459
that happens so you become your ghost is enough to dare to see what happens to you
1087
02:13:34,459 --> 02:13:41,509
is yes it is controversial shepherd is a real welles-nietes neighbors who are it now tom's two
1088
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evenings your soviets golan got the mail from people and the differences opinion pieces and
1089
02:13:46,189 --> 02:13:50,719
such there is new bed is not even debate going on about traumatic memories
1090
02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:55,520
occasionally the head on critics often from the corner of right psychology I need another
1091
02:13:55,520 --> 02:14:00,680
with saying they say yes it's right sometimes people can't talk about something but repressed
1092
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:06,560
memories do not exist do you understand the criticism oh of course I often encounter very good pen
1093
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:12,620
these people in the grasses lawsuits that people have dead things to ram pointed bust lasts
1094
02:14:13,459 --> 02:14:19,339
they never treated cremation people which i find interesting too but the first one that happens
1095
02:14:19,340 --> 02:14:24,470
also in court with you in court also this lost built done case preys to
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02:14:24,470 --> 02:14:34,040
the i wish in a lawsuit and the the lawyers that catholic church they have doctor van der kolk
1097
02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:43,430
the you your animal is the third grade primary school family yes anyway be wiesje race a report
1098
02:14:43,430 --> 02:14:49,280
it was written that you were so careless that you who that she was afraid that you would never get off the wheel
1099
02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:58,880
sprayable school they come off no c juliet are that broken on mean my primary school for my
1100
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get alarm clock and translate as english because you just separate from you on killed year out
1101
02:15:07,160 --> 02:15:12,200
from the nephew of jan dutch layer school to confront you with that and what tried there
1102
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then help prove that I like it that it was a sloppy thing to be able to say real things curt
1103
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and I say to the rights look now does the same with what I people with that
1104
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kids do it and be back mark to make it seem like the old fire and to gold ring
1105
02:15:32,300 --> 02:15:38,130
content or short so we attach was completely on the part of the Catholic Church prevented nothing
1106
02:15:38,130 --> 02:15:44,790
on the part of the victims no but I also assume that the whole discussion around
1107
02:15:44,790 --> 02:15:51,060
those repressed memories were also used against you in the courtroom oh lawyer in like
1108
02:15:51,060 --> 02:15:57,690
it was used was mainly a product of the catholic church its subtle the the whole
1109
02:15:58,590 --> 02:16:03,900
faking you guys is hardly a problem anymore and more I have it people know the name but
1110
02:16:03,900 --> 02:16:10,110
the Catholics were frail when a lot of people paid a lot of money to get the certificate
1111
02:16:10,110 --> 02:16:15,090
changeable change may this week sun opposite and opinion pieces not about dees
1112
02:16:15,090 --> 02:16:20,490
biology but what worse their dangerous mandelet you a dangerous man runs in it read
1113
02:16:20,490 --> 02:16:24,930
yes on the website of de Volkskrant I will quote a piece of scientific research
1114
02:16:24,930 --> 02:16:29,190
has repeatedly shown that therapists who are convinced of the existence of repression
1115
02:16:29,190 --> 02:16:34,680
suggestively inducing their patients to think they are sexually abusive when
1116
02:16:34,680 --> 02:16:39,480
that abuse never took place and that could then lead to more until now the went
1117
02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:44,520
anyway china and edward thawne mustache aware no i how big is the risk that you like
1118
02:16:44,521 --> 02:16:48,150
psychiatrist recalls events that never happened
1119
02:16:48,150 --> 02:16:59,219
most people want to love their parents and those little boys who loved the Catholic priests
1120
02:16:59,220 --> 02:17:06,000
of the pieces they sold so people like to do the right things with types of them
1121
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:12,420
don't want to renumber the misery and so it's actually very hard to deal with people
1122
02:17:12,420 --> 02:17:19,830
talk and talk what happened these are all my people clearly followers they got you from
1123
02:17:19,830 --> 02:17:27,150
loftus that I often have to have and they have never studied relationships within thing is a
1124
02:17:27,150 --> 02:17:34,530
laboratory you can force those people in lousy oil one can with the layout in laboratory so this
1125
02:17:34,530 --> 02:17:41,790
comes from la bardo insights house form and music and house working with for emergencies then you see
1126
02:17:41,790 --> 02:17:48,350
all these things you really have to optimize girl people know that they often can't hide anything
1127
02:17:48,350 --> 02:17:53,900
yes and you say something to someone talk about someone a reminder to talk is pretty much
1128
02:17:53,900 --> 02:18:00,379
impossible to keep just she thing could ambras I have chips for 40 years oh you can prevent would you
1129
02:18:00,380 --> 02:18:06,590
doesn't taste afraid be dogged I've never mistreated a brand in wish and they stay
1130
02:18:06,590 --> 02:18:13,040
terrified of although I tried to stomach them are a very nice person yes so very
1131
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:18,980
hard to talk things people on the track let alone memories people that way in the
1132
02:18:18,980 --> 02:18:25,040
laughter and yes yes from that the prevention of false declarations is important and to the other
1133
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:29,269
side is taking victims of sex crimes seriously and prosecuting those sitting there
1134
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:36,410
you also important wish he bad study that contains this saying and greeks would learn about
1135
02:18:36,410 --> 02:18:41,809
tomato grave the range reliable the people never come to me to can i can you
1136
02:18:41,810 --> 02:18:47,901
explain to me what happens to ruban students they absolutely never want better what we really are
1137
02:18:50,990 --> 02:18:57,920
why they are so fanatical why I still headline in dutch can't see yesterday dat
1138
02:18:57,920 --> 02:19:04,250
i am danger of dutch society what do you think you look like i think that is
1139
02:19:04,250 --> 02:19:09,260
just ridiculous stain I'm a danger of particle society to pick over
1140
02:19:09,260 --> 02:19:15,950
traumhaft it then the i see i see the case goes behind it is unbelievable their
1141
02:19:15,950 --> 02:19:21,050
places say yes he doesn't understand this danger past our society
1142
02:19:23,450 --> 02:19:30,260
who are those people who are so afraid of this reality he went a long time for an iphone
1143
02:19:30,260 --> 02:19:36,260
app takes where the people they are afraid to see how many children are abused
1144
02:19:37,070 --> 02:19:42,740
who are the people who accuse brill op de beeck that she has a false story she
1145
02:19:42,740 --> 02:19:48,500
wrote for money about that her novel who are those people who can't listen because to
1146
02:19:48,500 --> 02:19:56,101
the gante hunter fights very troubled court missile because you laugh korea sweater in oath
1147
02:19:56,101 --> 02:20:01,711
I don't care I think it's very slow that people can't listen to what's happening
1148
02:20:01,711 --> 02:20:06,721
they even a bit what happens in russia they have been prevented by paleness the russians
1149
02:20:06,721 --> 02:20:12,240
for shit the west is our their attacks and trainers and bad people
1150
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:19,470
regions perfect news trump good news yes and that and and what do you touch that and that people
1151
02:20:19,471 --> 02:20:27,901
say you take her goat take you so that's your problem yes no i know this
1152
02:20:30,030 --> 02:20:35,310
you lead me to them these in this keel vb phantom canker sores yes that's where I
1153
02:20:35,311 --> 02:20:41,610
know again confidence from both within one so i can say with great certainty this is happening
1154
02:20:41,610 --> 02:20:48,631
there because I studied myself very nice I didn't know then start I researched and the discover you
1155
02:20:48,631 --> 02:20:55,230
must experience really curious practice yes fm well I have if you research a piece there
1156
02:20:55,230 --> 02:21:00,720
must do the right if i get your money out there to do your research nice he says i in
1157
02:21:00,721 --> 02:21:07,230
studies the language of all life yes and in the next fragment we are going to see you at work you
1158
02:21:07,230 --> 02:21:13,650
shows us a practical example of a psychodrama session conducted by you pure sugar drama de
1159
02:21:13,650 --> 02:21:20,550
term is earlier tonight and client called jozefien first about that psychodrama what that
1160
02:21:20,551 --> 02:21:27,961
abs so when we talk about getting married we usually talk about what happened but it is already
1161
02:21:27,961 --> 02:21:34,921
a piece of what nothing happened so when you are told as a child you should not have been born
1162
02:21:34,921 --> 02:21:42,631
become and you destroyed us for a while then you don't know what it feels like to be loved as a child how
1163
02:21:42,631 --> 02:21:50,461
that is just a piece that is missing so the question becomes how do you give people experiences that will never
1164
02:21:50,461 --> 02:21:58,620
and there I learned from alpert so who was quite well known and popular in the Netherlands more
1165
02:21:58,620 --> 02:22:06,381
then in america and who taught me sake drama to help all people to venture their physical experiences
1166
02:22:06,381 --> 02:22:14,780
to have wise is in a physical way can it feel like someone loves you and what we
1167
02:22:14,780 --> 02:22:20,301
usually happens in therapy after therapists try to make people feel like I
1168
02:22:20,301 --> 02:22:28,341
do you I behave all those with great attention and respect and now you would know what it means to have it
1169
02:22:28,341 --> 02:22:35,091
attention their respect to be treated but what el paso teach me the wrong persons to
1170
02:22:35,091 --> 02:22:44,690
very wrong place i can think of you as a 70 years man they heat well enough you are years 40
1171
02:22:44,690 --> 02:22:52,400
I maybe now know exactly in the finer or one there what it was like as your mother of
1172
02:22:52,400 --> 02:22:58,220
you hoped to have lived two years yes i guess the look what will you happen to who it is not
1173
02:22:58,221 --> 02:23:04,160
don't know yet understand me the fragment makes a lot clearer and think it should be shortened
1174
02:23:04,160 --> 02:23:12,801
know what the history of this patient is joséphine because what she missed the piece is
1175
02:23:12,801 --> 02:23:19,700
travel movie and she goes to number door and often gets left behind with ruth and she starts that story
1176
02:23:19,700 --> 02:23:25,790
and she says the worst was she couldn't tell the parents what happened
1177
02:23:25,790 --> 02:23:31,641
was with my parents always told me i was a lender terrible person and that
1178
02:23:31,641 --> 02:23:37,101
completely things with will happen because I am a circle a third through the in one that I like
1179
02:23:37,101 --> 02:23:45,440
wife travel alone your parents mario jets guy expect them and i could do this with no one
1180
02:23:45,440 --> 02:23:51,110
Telling no one is what makes me not lost with her parents yes a number of friends
1181
02:23:51,110 --> 02:23:59,390
so so and so you will insist to have a stuff feel like the parents of the held in between
1182
02:23:59,391 --> 02:24:06,171
two cars couldn't be mine it comes from playing with people things together alcar door yes
1183
02:24:06,171 --> 02:24:11,210
discover and that's what we're going to see in this psychodrama session with jozef in
1184
02:24:13,270 --> 02:24:17,619
Okay
1185
02:24:17,619 --> 02:24:22,569
kpn boy
1186
02:24:22,569 --> 02:24:29,979
me a
1187
02:24:29,979 --> 02:24:47,439
sperm whale I'm out of here okay I need you just as much is a cost per poster yes
1188
02:24:47,439 --> 02:25:01,269
their teachers on music music just extra
1189
02:25:01,270 --> 02:25:08,949
time ipad itself and
1190
02:25:08,949 --> 02:25:15,069
it's possible
1191
02:25:21,159 --> 02:25:21,519
and you
1192
02:25:21,520 --> 02:25:48,490
and play yours
1193
02:25:53,409 --> 02:26:00,340
yes and there he was actually it is cold so I'm going for a while
1194
02:26:03,310 --> 02:26:06,399
bimbo on your screen and the level
1195
02:26:06,399 --> 02:26:18,039
arnhem dsm endlessly about printer
1196
02:26:20,380 --> 02:26:21,430
hello cares
1197
02:26:25,630 --> 02:26:36,430
with dt kill that boy and you arthurs arm on flyers second tickle and what i don't
1198
02:26:36,430 --> 02:26:49,920
here on well article 5 it all oh my god what have it here albion de nestlé h and bios
1199
02:27:10,069 --> 02:27:10,609
the same
1200
02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:27,401
that and a thousand you are
1201
02:27:42,790 --> 02:27:50,200
harry's and there angers that was and is me
1202
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have is my fall for my
1203
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video's
1204
02:28:34,560 --> 02:28:51,600
and
1205
02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:59,850
oh my god no ohh
1206
02:28:59,850 --> 02:29:03,689
it's a smart
1207
02:29:03,689 --> 02:29:15,419
house those helmets I'm in love I'm actually
1208
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highbury took off my pants and I saw so fresh meat
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yes the it does not affect me because i click you m i raiders in european that i
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am not traumatized and i don't know how much i did better i learned now why say
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yes this sounds very big and dramatic because of marco when I host in my last summer
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sitting a bit too sober myself no I once had a very serious accident in south africa and
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when I called my father you who didn't why did you with your stupid head of a waterfall had
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jumped but he would immediately I'm coming and I calculate very de me that there suddenly and I thought
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oh yes I never had a trauma there and never turn urine for your back yes realized this now
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that on one then all in all a difference in the world it's me you so people can can
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the terrible there were no go snakes my people to the so are we we are it is
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in members of tribes belong together and as long as we feed they belong together curver everything
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go yes unity or rain where the loneliness if you do that much of the summer
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the mother who does not see it yes and the parents who recognize the and yes and then I can stay away from the
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absolutely denying such a low point I am also free and relational skeptic off
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because I wouldn't do this so quickly, example after that, you don't have to do that, but it's going to be fun
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to do me too we go that is also a form of fooling yourself because she knows of course
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I'm sure they're not her parents and you hear those things said and yet she tells herself
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the crazy and yet it worked how is that so that you have human rights atmosphere became a you your left
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have atmosphere is logical and language and so you straighten in my atmosphere where the window where is it
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in our own research not visible when people are in two arms corps remote right brain
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are your feelings and brains but also your special relationship people and once you get it in
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the space starts to play out you have a whole different experience that travel liquor stores more important
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I'm not sure I've done with all kinds of policemen and tough people and
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as soon as they say you can play my dad they already get feelings about dad and they say
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never you are not really my father encouraged to immediately or they are just there for you
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before you play it spatially and if you play it is your space then time counts
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no more it's not from then or the hopefully will happen you get the ear through military
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this is really a great interesting but also from now on now news what is happening
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and then the movie you told me you try everything yourself ok cause i got drugs and pretend
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you're done it's you the little boy in the basement that cried already dead you do now but early
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more than my mother however was not at all and by having done this it so I
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have a very sweet mother in my life i know exactly how a training angels' we should dear
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maud I know how it feels and you have you feel it now thanks to a row then technique your
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the and that lives were also good luck at threatening but this has helped immensely to
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became oho adds happens yes and so really to have experiences that give you new impressions
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gives is a very important part of therapy that and you see a hair everything as the marches with
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do then she starts smiling is there thank you is in really taking it so he asleep smart
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girl who is very easy and the could have said yes there sit but there I go
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to do but once went to bed very well also criteria yes it's not enough
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just orientable fill so is the moment in the welding crane mountaineering with the you find it
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is you have to travel again because it takes he they listen but she also has a lot is their life
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kees left a boyfriend behind on ria because her father was a very difficult man
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told someone the final i chose love someone intimate relationships and we go yes now go
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have to say and with this called psychodrama yoga lottery examples of treatment methods of which
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you see in practice that they work and my research all these club series on the street but it
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girls are not taken seriously by everyone so how important do you think that scientific
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substantiation of treatment method I need it to be taken seriously by everyone my
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purple we don't know and that this will work well or a kiss I think you
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that scientific substantiation how expensive so very important do you think that is very
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important you click well i i have i can really tell if you tell me where the netherlands i
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have researched more different methods of ramming the tires than anyone else all sorts
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hidden village but like yoga for example that is not scientifically moving tony you are
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what do you think all your three steering wheel senor given a base funny stuff we did brain scans
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form of yoga jurgis completely proven proven method are you curious what I am also a
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hobby but I still have what is then how is a reasonable movement that it works just look it up
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under the name the is it and then you see organ for pythius one for afterwards see your brain people
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brain change so that was not so difficult more scientifically proven anyway more
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the like the window is much more difficult because the much you will film improvisation one more you brave
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endures change things graze very hard and make gates cool for it so that's still
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is a bit more in its infancy for that matter I don't think it will ever happen the
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the wizard method swimming farts widget to make those subtle things all too rigid ours
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quick guide and respond to really travel you through this fun swimming like new york do
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they we now have that the have that do that have that and your score is that one those are the variables
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its easy to do but it would behave you never know what you're going to do big kiss and
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took a girl to play for my father than this one although you would rather be known as a thorough
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scientist or pioneer can glimpse if I'm alive I've done good I've good
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things proved i need people to thin look more look deeper i can't stand if
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people I tell you the answer wounded because our minds are very complicated in
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culture such a penny complicated the everyone who says I have the answer to such a vague color that
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is ridiculous we haven't been able to say any answers that helps a little that helps a little
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maybe biography helps your one the next person doesn't help what you're the door yoga
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hope to weigh something always look i also put very skeptical about bags daleks they fall in our
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study had with 91 people with almost all went very well but I do not know whether the
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next study bind searches their waist would feel just as good but you say if it helps
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then it helps and that's what it's about yes for me figuring it out is also very interesting I'm real
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the research not far from your house near boston' finds the annual shakespeare festival
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place where students from 10 different high schools perform Shakespeare plays
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that's what show you then well i wanted to show you something else i wanted to show
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see yes it bled a bit different background you for it yes this program actually program week
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i find and sisters in band is called shakespeare the fever i live in berkshire county is the one
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of the most written I am a sigh sensire das nederland to drive over another fragment
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tell what we're not going to all things I'm going this will be there was communion today because if you like it
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you steal in cars or you break into the people their and you get judged you have a 50% chance
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as a youth to be sentenced to scroll a Shakespeare and get better and better
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in jail but now you'll be deputy I don't understand what you're saying the floor loan is to a
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Shakespeare to become an actor yes because we have good contacts with judges who are smart
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get through things you have to learn to play a role that is different from the role that
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called normal plays and if you is very deep in the theater tech camp you can really feel oh
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this is how it feels to be a mighty king or all are a different people you can
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is feeling physically in order to experience what it is like to be different people from the people you
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normally yes and dutch expert in the cord that is one that is so then people are judged
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but then they go to seat baron the czech do what you see what for you but what we go
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seeing all the clarity is teams can high schools with students who also
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shakespeare play yes but yes so based on the switch can briefly speak some michiel trap
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colonial competitors for me the learning how to you think physically and so come
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this a summertime wallpaper desk and so much time a connect rolled soon it will be quiet
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yes fake it to be larger morals going marco rangers of the opportunity's otherwise
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have on your shirt gray wicker friends this allows the the small open the map
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the expansion of aspects of sauce that you the chicken commission to reveal
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en discus de me safe place for them to explore this a mobile that went steaks at intervals
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lovers shakespeare the management falling in love it him cells and falling in love it each other
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for girls working on shakespeare special painless it a white knight looked hard and huge place so
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small king lear forecourt why hamlet more subtle absolutely true the tassel what it is needed in
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the marquis over the lock and dishonorable ball to play sports in an organized by side chick atmosphere he
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cried all the emotions and simon thin motor i am i my other lexa do in bath radio shakespeare
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major actors and nike what has a mgz with it to you nice hey sal give you give you the variety
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of motion the gender bond is so introduction week food sermon went and who's the scoop the back
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this because i have found a separate speakers that habermas have her so it shouldn't be too
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what is a mizuno wave is but news i like or via images his mother judith and i think
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from shakespeare enough brown skin and you had to risk a cent and you will therefore be equal to here and
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so monogamous here so now also a risk and by taking on these goals er able so they axel year
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have for quiet and had to be quiet how do you keep passions in the festival higgs boson opportunity to
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