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Okay. Um,
we need to get some water.
>> Oh, I forgot to fill my water bottle up.
>> No, you don't need to. There's meant to
be a tank around here.
>> Oh, I'm sorry, Josh. I'm just a bit
nervous about everything. I
>> No, it's all right. We'll be fine. Let's
do it.
>> I'm just afraid we might have forgotten
something. That's all.
>> No.
>> 1 2 1 2 3 4
>> Ma.
You don't
It's okay if you need to fill it with
all the quiet space, okay? There's going
to be 5 days of quiet space, okay? I'm
sorry. Just
try not to be the donkey to my Shrek,
yeah?
All right. Okay.
Okay.
Ma, you okay?
It's big hill's coming. Do you want me
to take some of your stuff?
Nah.
Hey, Ma.
Ma, do you need a rest?
Ma.
>> I'm sorry, Shrek. I'm just trying to
give you some quiet space.
What are you making?
>> Macaroni and cheese.
>> Oh.
Macaroni and cheese, yes please.
Macaroni and cheese, what a tease,
macaroni.
>> That's That's beautiful.
Mac, it's mac.
With cheese, yes please.
>> Do you remember when you were a scout?
>> Yeah, of course I remember.
>> Did you get your mac and cheese badge?
>> I got my camp cooking badge, yes.
>> Were you ever touched?
>> Pardon?
>> By your scout master?
>> No.
No, I was not touched. Why?
>> Well, I just thought maybe you had, but
nobody ever asked you about it.
>> No, I was never touched. I was never
touched as a kid. People don't generally
like touching me.
>> Oh, here we go about Patrick.
>> I'm not
I'm not going about Patrick.
>> Patrick, Patrick, what a prick. Patrick,
you're a prick, teaser.
I thought that's pretty clever.
>> Yeah.
>> Joshua, can you help your mother,
please?
>> Yep.
>> You know why I wanted to come on this
hike, don't you?
>> Um
after Ginger killed herself,
you couldn't stay in that hospital, cuz
that's depressing.
But it's a horrible idea for you to be
home alone, so
here we are, in a creek.
>> Yep.
>> It's getting late. Let's keep moving.
>> Yeah.
>> Like a shot.
>> Okay.
Stop it.
What are you reading?
>> History of Sexuality.
>> You're reading an erotic book?
>> No.
>> How much have you read?
>> Uh, about half.
>> What's it about?
>> I have no idea.
>> I don't know why she didn't tell me.
>> Okay.
You're talking about Ginger, yeah? I
knew this would happen. I am I am
prepared.
>> I thought we were friends. I just don't
know why she didn't tell me.
>> I don't know.
You You didn't tell anyone when you did
it.
>> It's different.
>> How?
>> I didn't plan it. She planned it.
>> Okay.
>> She left me a note.
>> Okay.
>> I haven't read it.
>> Well, maybe the note will tell you why
she didn't tell you.
>> No, she wouldn't tell me because she
knew I'd stop her.
>> Yeah, well, wouldn't you have stopped
her?
>> Yeah, of course.
>> Yes, so that makes sense.
>> It's just I would have thought that
she'd want to be stopped.
>> You never really wanted to be
stopped.
>> It was different.
>> Okay.
>> You know, I'm I'm sorry about when I
tried.
>> Yeah.
I know.
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> It's okay to be angry if you want.
>> No, I don't want to be angry, okay? I
always assumed that wasn't about me.
>> [laughter]
>> Morning.
>> Oh god, how are you awake?
>> There's a sidewalk we can do today to a
waterfall to next with 7 km.
>> Are they all drugs? No wonder our packs
are so heavy.
>> Do you want to go? It's a lot of
walking.
>> I don't mind. Whatever you want.
>> either. It's up to you.
>> No, it's on minds. Do you feel up to it?
>> Just tell me what you want, Josh.
>> Well, whatever you want, then.
>> you just tell me what you want instead
of carrying on like everything you do
for me is a big fat favor.
>> trying to be easy.
>> You're being a [ __ ]
>> well, let's not go to the waterfall.
>> No, let's not go to the bloody
waterfall, then.
>> Yeah, [ __ ] the waterfall.
>> Yeah.
Have you ever wanted to try and kill
yourself?
>> Oh gosh.
No, not really.
>> Never?
>> Um
There's been times where like I didn't
want to feel anything anymore and it
seemed like a nice idea, but
all those times they passed.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Yeah.
>> So, how did they pass?
>> Um well, I don't know. Maybe Everybody
Loves Raymond came on. Maybe someone
offered me pancakes.
I love pancakes.
>> But you never want to do any more than
that?
>> Uh oh, once when I was 19, I wrote a
suicide note.
>> Oh.
>> So
>> I'm sorry.
>> No, I don't think that's a big deal. Is
it? To want to kill yourself for an
afternoon, that's normal. As long as you
don't actually try.
>> What did your note say?
>> Um I can't remember. Probably something
very teen-angsty.
>> Oh, you must remember what it said.
>> Okay, fine. I I remember that it just I
don't want to reflect on it. I don't
really want to reflect on any of the
decisions I made as a teenager, to be
honest.
>> What, like when you started dressing
like him and him?
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, that shirt. Do you remember the
shirt you made? And then you wore it.
You said,
"Uh
some people think that we only use 10%
of our brains, but I think we only use
10% of our hearts."
>> hearts. It's
insightful. It's an insightful quote. I
was an insightful teenager.
>> [laughter]
>> Don't want to talk about it.
>> [laughter]
>> Like you were not sharing the same
sleeping bag.
>> [laughter]
>> Not listening.
But you never have opinions on anything.
Like, I don't think I've ever heard you
have an opinion on anything.
>> Oh, there's too many opinions these
days, Josh. Everybody seems to think
they have to have an opinion.
>> Okay, good. You have opinions on
opinions.
>> No, it's I mean, it's like it's fine if
they want to have opinions.
And I do have opinions, by the way.
Maybe you've just never heard them.
>> Okay. Well, let's play a game where I
ask you about something and you have to
have an opinion on it.
>> Oh, okay. Yeah, I can do that.
>> Okay. Uh so, Mother, uh what's your
opinion on Australian Idol?
>> Uh the judges are too mean.
>> Okay. In the first few seasons, when
they became like sickly nice.
>> I knew you didn't really want my
opinion.
>> What about uh God?
>> Well, I don't believe in God, but
I don't like it when you go around
telling people that he doesn't exist.
>> But he he doesn't exist.
>> Why do you bother them?
>> Uh well, the other day a Christian
politician said that God sent AIDS to
kill gays. I It's I just I think I'm
allowed to rebut that.
>> Well, that guy sounds like an idiot.
You're allowed You're allowed to bother
him.
>> Okay. [laughter]
I just
Mostly, I'm just surprised that God
couldn't come up with a better plan than
AIDS, you know? It's not very efficient.
>> It doesn't just kill gays.
>> No, kills a lot of Africans, but you
know,
God is clumsy like that. He's
notoriously clumsy.
He's Also, I don't understand like he
got AIDS in the '80s, you know? Took God
6 days to make the universe and that
long to come up with AIDS. Like
what was it about the '80s
that he saw George Michael and was like,
"No,
this [ __ ] has gone far enough.
AIDS."
>> Well, don't all Christians believe that?
It's just that one guy.
>> Yeah.
>> Jesus was fine with guys. Was he?
Yeah, like he
he hung out with all those what? tax
collectors
and drank wine and
>> [laughter]
>> what?
Washed their feet.
>> [laughter]
>> Is that a gay thing?
Washing feet?
I've never washed a foot. [laughter]
Is that what you think we do? You think
we wash feet?
>> Let's swim, Josh.
>> Oh God, no. It's freezing.
I don't have any swimming stuff.
>> then you just go in your clothes. You'll
dry them.
>> No, no. That is freezing.
>> Come on, and it'll be fun.
>> Nope. Don't want to.
>> You're giving me the shits.
I want to have a nice time.
>> Yesterday, I was getting in trouble for
doing activities just cuz you wanted me
to do them.
>> I I just want you to want to do things.
>> I don't want to do a thing, you know?
I don't know I don't want to do a thing
I don't want to do. I don't want to lie
about it. You told me not to do that.
>> It's [ __ ] freezing.
>> Yeah, I said right.
>> Shut up.
>> I said it's freezing.
>> Shut up.
I'M REALLY WARMED UP, JOSHIE.
>> GOOD.
GOOD.
>> I'm going to go to the other side, okay?
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> What's up?
>> There's a snake, Joshie. THERE'S A
SNAKE.
>> WHERE?
>> OH, it
It swam away.
>> Okay, good. Good.
>> Oh no, I'm in the water.
>> Creepy.
>> How am I going to get back?
>> I don't know. You just have to swim. You
just have to swim back.
>> No, I can't do that.
Joshie, can you come and get me, please?
>> How will that help?
>> I can't get from my own.
Come on, please.
>> If I get in there, it's just going to
make a double-sized target.
>> Well, what do I do?
>> YOU JUST HAVE TO SWIM. You just have TO
SWIM BACK.
>> NO.
>> OKAY, uh when I was a scout, they told
us that snakes are like scared of
people, so if you just make some noise,
you'll like scare it and it'll piss off.
>> Go away.
GO AWAY, SNAKE. Go away.
>> No, not like that. You need to like like
on the ground, jump and stomp or
something.
>> Oh, Joshie,
it's in the
water.
>> [screaming]
>> OKAY, FINE. I'll come in
and scare the snake.
OI. HEY.
SNAKE, SNAKE.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIT IT LIKE THAT,
JOSH.
>> YEAH, SURE. I learned it in scouts.
Oi. Okay.
Kate,
get in.
>> I'm too scared.
>> [ __ ] do it.
>> Don't you swear at me, Josh.
>> All right.
>> Kate, GET OUT OF HERE, PLEASE.
KATE.
>> OKAY, what is
Keep going.
>> I'M TOO SCARED.
>> OH, [ __ ] ALL RIGHT.
>> JOSH.
>> YEAH. All right.
>> Josh, Josh.
>> It's gone.
It's gone.
Christ.
>> You're my hero, you know that?
>> Yeah.
>> You really are.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm your hero?
>> Sure. Why not?
You're my hero.
>> I don't understand how you never got
angry with me.
Slow anger, ginger.
>> Wow, you're really stuck on this, yeah?
Do you want me to get angry? Do you wish
I was angry?
>> Oh, I just want to understand what's
going through your head, Josh.
>> I just try and understand when you do
things like this that you're doing them
because you're ill, and then I don't get
angry the same way you wouldn't get
angry at someone with a cold for having
a runny nose.
>> That's sort of unfeeling.
>> No,
I mean, like sure, sometimes I get
angry. Like it seems like a pretty crazy
way to get my attention, but also I
promise my anger just never felt like a
priority.
>> I wasn't trying to get your attention.
>> Really?
>> No, look, see, a psychiatrist I saw
really early on asked me if I was trying
to get attention. That really surprised
me.
>> What were you trying to do then?
>> I was trying to kill myself.
>> Oh, yeah, of course.
>> I can't use attention if I'm dead, can
I?
>> The
third time
you tried to kill yourself,
uh that was like a day where we didn't
know if your stomach had been pumped in
time.
If it had been pumped in time, they
assured me you would be fine, but if it
hadn't,
you were going to die slowly over 2
weeks.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> Yeah, I just
You're my mom.
Yeah, I just
Imagine if I had to watch you die slowly
over 2 weeks, watch you kill yourself
over 2 weeks.
Of course I got scared. I was [ __ ]
terrified, but then then when I found
out you were fine, then I got angry.
That was an angry day for me.
And sometimes,
uh
when I call you at 2:00 p.m. and you're
still in bed, not working at getting
better, then I get angry then, which I
know is harsh because that's your
disease. It's very hard for you to get
out of bed, but if we keep excusing it
because it's your disease, then you're
never going to get better.
>> No, I am trying to get better.
>> Sure, just don't do it again, all right?
Want some chili?
>> Yeah.
Oops.
I've got a little surprise.
>> Mhm.
Is that marijuana?
>> Yes.
I've always wanted to try it.
>> Where did you get that?
>> Tom. He rolled it for me, too. Such a
nice boy.
>> I don't really smoke it.
>> Oh, it's all right, lovey. I don't mind.
I know you smoke it.
>> No, I don't it. Makes me cough and it
makes me scared.
>> Oh, don't be such a [ __ ]
>> A [ __ ]
>> Yeah.
>> No, I just I'm worried we'll eat all the
food, Mom. We we have rations.
>> Extra chocolate. I thought ahead.
>> Don't know how that's going to mix with
your medications.
>> Jesus [ __ ] Christ, Joshua. I am
trying to build a [ __ ] bonding moment
here.
>> It's just already so scary here and
All right. All right. We're going to
need some water.
>> [cough and clears throat]
>> What?
>> Nothing.
Nothing.
You don't hug it. Don't hug it.
So, when do I start feeling high?
>> Uh
nowish.
>> Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Oh,
that's good.
It's good.
>> Already?
>> Yeah.
>> Sudden, wasn't it?
>> I'm having fun. This is really fun.
>> Peer pressured into doing drugs by my
mom.
>> This really is fun, Josh.
Why did you and Patrick split up?
>> I don't want to go over it again.
>> But you really liked him.
>> Yeah, I was so happy.
Like how many times was it nice?
Sun was shining, you know, like flowers
were doing like flowery type stuff.
Bluebirds were giving each other hand
jobs. It was good.
>> I don't get that.
>> What?
>> Um why were they giving each other hand
jobs?
>> It was a joke.
>> I don't get your jokes, Josh.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> You know,
I can sort of see it from Patrick's
point of view.
>> What?
>> Well, it's hard to
imagine you having sex.
>> Yeah, good.
You shouldn't be imagining it.
>> It's so bad at interacting with people
when you feel self-conscious, that's
all.
>> Suddenly she has opinions, lots of
opinions.
>> So you're always questioning things and
and seeking approval.
>> I don't do those things when I'm having
sex.
What?
Once I did apologize, but that was
that was warranted.
>> What did you do?
>> No.
No, I'm not telling you.
>> I'm so sad, Josh.
>> No,
I'm just not going to talk about it.
>> Don't be such a baby.
>> I'm not a baby.
>> You're not a baby.
>> I'm not a baby.
>> I'm not a baby.
>> I'm not a baby.
>> I'm not a baby.
>> You're not a [ __ ] baby.
>> I'm not a baby.
And tell us what I did in my
>> Yeah, we don't see a Tasmanian devil or
one by or nothing.
But I'm really looking forward to the
boat.
I'm looking forward to moving not not
with my legs.
>> I'm going to read Ginger's note
tomorrow.
>> What do you reckon it will say?
>> I don't know. Could be anything.
>> Hope it's a treasure map.
>> Are you maybe bisexual?
>> No. Gosh, you really kept your hopes up.
>> Well, it's just that I've never
understood. You dated Claire for so
long.
>> I just didn't know I was gay yet.
>> Well,
what changed?
>> Um,
I got older, you know, I got bored with
girls. And also, I just At the time, I
didn't want to be gay. No one
wants to be gay. Joffrey was so pretty.
He forced me to come to terms with it.
>> Well, did you enjoy having sex with
girls?
>> Yeah, at the time.
>> Well, doesn't that make you bisexual,
then?
>> No. As a teenager, putting your penis
anywhere when you're a teenager is fun.
Once I tried to have sex with a
watermelon. Wasn't fussy.
>> [laughter]
>> I'm going to go back to the mental home.
And get better.
>> Yeah, you have to. Otherwise, they're
going to force you to stay in a public
hospital.
>> Mhm.
Okay. Yeah,
it's a point.
No, I want to.
>> Great.
That's
That's great.
>> I wasn't trying to hurt you when I
attempted.
It wasn't like Ginger. It wasn't
planned.
>> Okay.
>> Just I hadn't been out of bed for 2
weeks. I hated myself so much. And I
just thought everybody'd be happy if I
was dead.
Just wanted to do you a favor.
>> I guess that's
quite selfless of you.
>> Ginger's note.
>> Okay.
Let's do it.
>> I I thought we'd have a
a little ritual. Like, I'll read it out,
and then we can burn it, and just let it
go, and
keep moving like a shark.
>> Okay.
>> Rose,
you fat [ __ ]
>> [laughter]
>> Thanks for keeping me company.
Take care of yourself, Ginger.
>> That's it?
>> Yeah.
>> Ah, it's hardly closure, is it?
>> No.
>> No treasure map?
>> No.
>> No.
We're not going to get anything out of
this.
All right.
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