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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 In new york city's war on crime, 2 00:00:02,801 --> 00:00:04,602 the worst criminal offenders 3 00:00:03,370 --> 00:00:07,638 are pursued by the detectives of the major case squad. 4 00:00:07,706 --> 00:00:08,740 These are their stories. 5 00:00:12,242 --> 00:00:13,787 Morgan. 6 00:00:13,855 --> 00:00:15,396 - Pretentious. 7 00:00:15,464 --> 00:00:16,467 - "sophie." 8 00:00:16,544 --> 00:00:17,722 - Hmm, too italian. 9 00:00:17,789 --> 00:00:18,732 - [scoffs] 10 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,742 [gasps] 11 00:00:19,810 --> 00:00:21,083 "mavis." 12 00:00:21,151 --> 00:00:22,995 - Too jewish. 13 00:00:23,063 --> 00:00:26,010 - Okay, then I have "morgan." 14 00:00:26,078 --> 00:00:27,415 Can I have "morgan," please? 15 00:00:27,482 --> 00:00:28,689 - What's in it for me? - Please, please, please? 16 00:00:28,757 --> 00:00:30,261 - What is in it for me? - Oh! 17 00:00:30,328 --> 00:00:33,203 - Linda. 18 00:00:33,271 --> 00:00:35,843 - Come and get me. 19 00:00:37,414 --> 00:00:40,421 I'm waiting. - Hmm. 20 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:48,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 21 00:00:49,813 --> 00:00:53,084 Linda, you want the rest of the bellinis? 22 00:00:55,123 --> 00:00:59,230 [loudly] do you want the rest of... 23 00:01:01,704 --> 00:01:04,040 Are you gonna-- 24 00:01:04,108 --> 00:01:06,111 Linda? 25 00:01:08,549 --> 00:01:11,550 Linda! 26 00:01:11,618 --> 00:01:13,614 [muffled shouts] 27 00:01:26,379 --> 00:01:28,982 [bird calls] 28 00:01:29,049 --> 00:01:32,042 [beeping] 29 00:01:37,212 --> 00:01:39,215 [ticking] 30 00:01:42,417 --> 00:01:43,650 [click] 31 00:01:50,388 --> 00:01:52,323 - S-s-s... 32 00:01:52,390 --> 00:01:54,058 Something awful happened. 33 00:01:54,125 --> 00:01:55,591 [labored breathing] 34 00:01:55,659 --> 00:01:57,689 I think I shot my wife. 35 00:01:57,757 --> 00:02:01,385 - All right, take it easy. Take it easy, okay? 36 00:02:01,452 --> 00:02:02,918 We're gonna get someone to help you. 37 00:02:09,425 --> 00:02:11,525 - No, no! - Hey, wait a minute! 38 00:02:11,593 --> 00:02:13,393 Hey! Hey, wait! - No! Aah! 39 00:02:13,461 --> 00:02:16,363 - Whoa. 40 00:02:20,064 --> 00:02:22,664 Adriano_CSI 41 00:03:02,967 --> 00:03:04,468 C.O.D. Is a single gunshot wound to the heart. 42 00:03:04,536 --> 00:03:06,841 - Nothing in her pockets. Maybe robbed? 43 00:03:06,909 --> 00:03:09,212 - Uh, there's an indentation on her finger; 44 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,747 A wedding or engagement ring. 45 00:03:10,815 --> 00:03:11,982 - Well, I don't know about robbed. 46 00:03:12,049 --> 00:03:13,583 They wouldn't have left this necklace. 47 00:03:13,651 --> 00:03:15,050 - There's no bullet hole in the shirt. 48 00:03:15,118 --> 00:03:17,585 She was dressed post-mortem, but the fly's unzipped. 49 00:03:17,653 --> 00:03:18,852 - You know, 'cause it's nice. 50 00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:21,121 It's a verdura or a bulgari. 51 00:03:21,188 --> 00:03:22,388 - Big ticket item. - Yeah. 52 00:03:22,456 --> 00:03:25,658 - The stains on her hands look like varnish. 53 00:03:25,725 --> 00:03:27,325 - Yes. 54 00:03:27,393 --> 00:03:29,227 Well, maybe she was doing some kind of crafts. 55 00:03:29,294 --> 00:03:33,065 You know, pottery or collage or paper mache, 56 00:03:33,132 --> 00:03:34,499 Or something like that, so she took off the ring. 57 00:03:34,567 --> 00:03:37,435 - Detectives, there's a 7-series beemer 58 00:03:37,503 --> 00:03:39,638 Sitting in the middle of the marina parking lot. 59 00:03:39,706 --> 00:03:42,206 You might want to have a look-see. 60 00:03:48,912 --> 00:03:50,045 - [sniffing] 61 00:03:50,113 --> 00:03:53,215 Varnish again. 62 00:03:53,283 --> 00:03:56,117 - [breathes deeply] 63 00:03:56,185 --> 00:03:57,284 - What's it smell like? 64 00:03:57,352 --> 00:04:00,854 - 250 bucks a pound. 65 00:04:05,725 --> 00:04:06,825 It's bellinis. 66 00:04:06,893 --> 00:04:08,994 Made with imported white peaches 67 00:04:09,061 --> 00:04:10,295 Instead of liqueur. 68 00:04:10,362 --> 00:04:12,297 And latex. 69 00:04:12,364 --> 00:04:14,065 Oh, no, no. That's--that's me, I think. 70 00:04:14,133 --> 00:04:17,368 - Yep. Ted and linda, that's their car. 71 00:04:17,436 --> 00:04:18,566 - You know the owners of this car? 72 00:04:18,634 --> 00:04:21,156 - Yeah. The stoddards. 73 00:04:21,224 --> 00:04:22,583 I run the marina. 74 00:04:22,650 --> 00:04:25,290 They got a 42-foot rhodes yawl. A classic. 75 00:04:25,358 --> 00:04:30,899 They come out every Thursday and work on it. 76 00:04:30,966 --> 00:04:33,023 - Ted sells medical equipment. 77 00:04:33,090 --> 00:04:35,684 Got me a blood pressure thing half-price. 78 00:04:35,752 --> 00:04:36,683 - Oh, yeah? 79 00:04:36,750 --> 00:04:38,515 - This explains the varnish stains. 80 00:04:38,583 --> 00:04:42,377 - Oh. High tax bracket, but they're do-it-yourselfers. 81 00:04:42,444 --> 00:04:44,673 - People like puttering around their boats. 82 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:47,038 Ted and linda were into keeping this yar. 83 00:04:47,105 --> 00:04:48,802 - "yar"? 84 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:51,199 - Looking good. - "yar"? 85 00:04:51,267 --> 00:04:53,463 Doesn't katharine hepburn say that in philadelphia story? 86 00:04:53,531 --> 00:04:55,825 She says it to-- - jimmy stewart. 87 00:04:55,893 --> 00:04:57,525 - To jimmy stewart. That's right. 88 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:59,587 Yah--yar. 89 00:04:59,655 --> 00:05:01,420 - Detectives? - Yes. 90 00:05:01,487 --> 00:05:04,149 - Car's registered to a theodore stoddard. 91 00:05:04,217 --> 00:05:06,812 No priors, wants, or warrants. 92 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:09,975 Current address is listed as 429 lafayette. 93 00:05:37,476 --> 00:05:40,437 - This was thrown at the mirror. 94 00:05:40,502 --> 00:05:42,899 - A hospital gown. 95 00:05:42,967 --> 00:05:45,363 - The mud and dirt match the spot, 96 00:05:45,431 --> 00:05:48,059 So I'm guessing it was mr. Stoddard. 97 00:05:48,127 --> 00:05:51,255 What, he didn't like wearing it? 98 00:05:52,787 --> 00:05:54,483 - Watch winders. 99 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:57,512 - People are actually that lazy? 100 00:05:57,580 --> 00:06:00,044 - Well, some really fine watches have to be constantly wound. 101 00:06:00,111 --> 00:06:03,504 The question is, where are these--these three? 102 00:06:03,572 --> 00:06:06,303 Hello. What's this? 103 00:06:06,370 --> 00:06:09,132 - Hmm. - Hmm. Money bands. 104 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,494 Hmm. 105 00:06:11,562 --> 00:06:15,291 Hey. Hey, good eye, detective. 106 00:06:15,359 --> 00:06:17,420 Look at that. - Oh. 107 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,252 Hmm. 108 00:06:22,682 --> 00:06:27,574 Her passport, but his is missing. 109 00:06:27,642 --> 00:06:29,604 - Really? 110 00:06:29,672 --> 00:06:33,067 So money, passport, and valuable watches 111 00:06:33,135 --> 00:06:35,065 That could probably be sold. 112 00:06:35,133 --> 00:06:36,829 He's skipping the country. 113 00:06:36,896 --> 00:06:40,355 This guy is on the run. 114 00:06:40,423 --> 00:06:43,785 - Stomach contents were herring, duck pate, 115 00:06:43,852 --> 00:06:45,582 And peach-flavored champagne. 116 00:06:45,649 --> 00:06:46,880 - Bellinis. 117 00:06:46,948 --> 00:06:48,811 - We found a thermos. 118 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:51,243 - Drinks bellinis, but no manicure? 119 00:06:51,311 --> 00:06:53,575 - There's sawdust under her nails. 120 00:06:53,643 --> 00:06:55,075 There are vague restraint marks 121 00:06:55,142 --> 00:06:57,337 On her ribs, calves, and wrists. 122 00:06:57,405 --> 00:06:59,334 Also these. 123 00:06:59,402 --> 00:07:00,400 - Look like suction cup marks. 124 00:07:00,468 --> 00:07:02,664 - Yeah. With traces of mastisol. 125 00:07:02,732 --> 00:07:05,727 It's an adhesive used to keep contact disks in place. 126 00:07:05,794 --> 00:07:08,755 - The killer took her vital signs? 127 00:07:08,823 --> 00:07:11,584 - Maybe since stoddard sold medical equipment. 128 00:07:11,652 --> 00:07:13,415 - Okay, so, uh, 129 00:07:13,483 --> 00:07:15,313 They spend the afternoon sipping bellinis 130 00:07:15,381 --> 00:07:17,345 While they varnish and sand. 131 00:07:17,413 --> 00:07:19,012 - And a little afternoon delight? 132 00:07:19,079 --> 00:07:22,373 - Dr. Feelgood dons a hospital gown 133 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,536 And hooks her to a heart monitor, 134 00:07:25,603 --> 00:07:27,933 And the sounds of her vital signs 135 00:07:28,001 --> 00:07:30,362 Awaken cabin boy, 136 00:07:30,430 --> 00:07:31,561 But something goes wrong. 137 00:07:31,629 --> 00:07:33,659 He shoots her and runs home, 138 00:07:33,727 --> 00:07:36,688 Grabs his passport and his fancy watch collection, 139 00:07:36,756 --> 00:07:39,284 And, uh, charters a flight to zurich. 140 00:07:39,352 --> 00:07:40,650 - The flight to zurich's 141 00:07:40,718 --> 00:07:41,916 The only part of that that makes sense. 142 00:07:41,983 --> 00:07:43,980 Examine stoddard's finances 143 00:07:44,048 --> 00:07:46,342 And put a warrant out on him. 144 00:07:48,507 --> 00:07:49,705 - Hey, serena, look at this. 145 00:07:49,773 --> 00:07:51,236 Ten minutes after opening bell, 146 00:07:51,304 --> 00:07:55,564 Stoddard's broker liquidated all his mutual fund holdings. 147 00:07:55,632 --> 00:07:56,696 - I wonder where they went. 148 00:07:56,764 --> 00:07:58,394 - Here's something of interest. 149 00:07:58,462 --> 00:08:01,958 I entered single gunshot wounds with restraint marks 150 00:08:02,025 --> 00:08:03,090 And the presence of mastisol 151 00:08:03,158 --> 00:08:04,654 From suction cups on the victim. 152 00:08:04,722 --> 00:08:06,317 - You're not gonna tell me it's commonplace. 153 00:08:06,385 --> 00:08:07,984 - Three killings over a four-year span. 154 00:08:08,051 --> 00:08:11,345 The oldest was in st. Louis, 4/16/06. 155 00:08:11,412 --> 00:08:12,444 52-year-old female. 156 00:08:12,511 --> 00:08:14,941 C.O.D., gunshot wound to the head. 157 00:08:15,009 --> 00:08:16,705 - Well, the mastisol 158 00:08:16,773 --> 00:08:18,909 Could have been from the emts at the scene. 159 00:08:18,977 --> 00:08:23,239 - Which brings us to a case in the bronx, on 3/18/08. 160 00:08:23,307 --> 00:08:26,503 - Dead for over six hours before the body was found. 161 00:08:26,571 --> 00:08:30,268 The emts didn't put the mastisol there. 162 00:08:30,335 --> 00:08:33,206 - Wait a minute. This case is closed. 163 00:08:33,274 --> 00:08:36,543 - This man was shot by his wife, veronica kalen. 164 00:08:36,611 --> 00:08:40,080 She's been serving 12 to 15 in bayview ever since. 165 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:47,653 -Will talking to yous iget me out of here? 166 00:08:47,721 --> 00:08:50,623 - Not easy. Your own admission of guilt got you in. 167 00:08:50,691 --> 00:08:53,726 - Only to avoid a life sentence. 168 00:08:53,794 --> 00:08:56,761 I did not murder my husband. I loved the guy. 169 00:08:56,829 --> 00:08:59,730 - Yeah. Well, that's-- that's a good place to start. 170 00:08:59,798 --> 00:09:03,766 Um, ronnie, tell us what really, really happened. 171 00:09:07,003 --> 00:09:10,471 - My husband and I salsa danced every Tuesday night. 172 00:09:10,539 --> 00:09:12,072 We were the first couple on the floor, 173 00:09:12,140 --> 00:09:13,874 The last to leave. 174 00:09:13,942 --> 00:09:15,208 Lee had a circulation problem, 175 00:09:15,276 --> 00:09:17,844 So I would go down to the car to warm it up for him. 176 00:09:17,911 --> 00:09:19,512 That's where I got grabbed. 177 00:09:19,580 --> 00:09:20,946 - You got grabbed? 178 00:09:21,014 --> 00:09:22,347 Uh, before yr husband came out? 179 00:09:22,415 --> 00:09:23,648 - Yeah, om behind. 180 00:09:23,716 --> 00:09:25,950 He put something over my nose that knocked me out. 181 00:09:26,018 --> 00:09:28,019 - You couldn't see where he took you? 182 00:09:28,086 --> 00:09:30,387 - I was out. 183 00:09:30,455 --> 00:09:32,756 I woke up. 184 00:09:32,824 --> 00:09:35,558 Lee and me were strapped to these big, wooden chairs, 185 00:09:35,626 --> 00:09:36,693 Facing each other. 186 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,394 There was wires coming off of us. 187 00:09:38,462 --> 00:09:42,364 And then he gives leeland this ultimatum: 188 00:09:42,431 --> 00:09:47,535 Shoot me and he gets to live. 189 00:09:47,603 --> 00:09:51,605 Refuse... 190 00:09:51,673 --> 00:09:53,774 And lee refused. 191 00:09:53,842 --> 00:09:58,044 He had some real stones, my husband. 192 00:09:58,112 --> 00:09:59,879 Son of a bitch blew his brains out, 193 00:09:59,946 --> 00:10:01,046 And I'm suffering for it. 194 00:10:01,114 --> 00:10:03,115 - Ronnie, while he was waiting for your husband 195 00:10:03,183 --> 00:10:05,050 To make this choice, 196 00:10:05,118 --> 00:10:07,886 Um, did the killer do anything, 197 00:10:07,954 --> 00:10:11,490 Uh, strange or--or kinky? 198 00:10:11,557 --> 00:10:12,724 You know... 199 00:10:12,792 --> 00:10:14,059 - You mean, like, sexually? 200 00:10:14,127 --> 00:10:17,462 - Yeah, did he take his clothes off or fondle you or--? 201 00:10:17,529 --> 00:10:19,229 - No. - Masturbate or--? 202 00:10:19,297 --> 00:10:21,997 - No. No. 203 00:10:22,065 --> 00:10:23,765 [nichols writing] 204 00:10:23,832 --> 00:10:26,133 The only weird thing was that hospital band. 205 00:10:26,201 --> 00:10:29,102 - Hospital band? 206 00:10:29,169 --> 00:10:32,271 - After he shot leeland, he dosed me again. 207 00:10:32,338 --> 00:10:33,438 And when I woke up, 208 00:10:33,506 --> 00:10:35,306 He had put this hospital band on my wrist. 209 00:10:35,374 --> 00:10:37,609 - What happened to the hospital band? 210 00:10:37,676 --> 00:10:41,145 - Cops took it. 211 00:10:41,213 --> 00:10:43,381 Evidence. 212 00:10:50,487 --> 00:10:53,956 - You actually believe this whole playing doctor scenario? 213 00:10:53,824 --> 00:10:54,957 - Some of it. - Not all of it. 214 00:10:55,025 --> 00:10:56,526 - No, no, try not canceling each other out. 215 00:10:56,593 --> 00:10:57,860 You first. 216 00:10:57,928 --> 00:11:00,229 - Well, we know that stoddard sold medical equipment, 217 00:11:00,297 --> 00:11:03,099 But we also found a discarded hospital gown 218 00:11:03,167 --> 00:11:04,267 In his bathroom. 219 00:11:04,335 --> 00:11:05,502 - And ronnie kalen's abductor 220 00:11:05,569 --> 00:11:06,836 Put a medical bracelet on her. 221 00:11:06,904 --> 00:11:09,539 - We're talking about a woman serving 15-to-life 222 00:11:09,606 --> 00:11:11,473 Who lied about the disappearance of her husband. 223 00:11:11,541 --> 00:11:13,641 You know, she's probably on with her attorney right now, 224 00:11:13,709 --> 00:11:15,209 Trying to leverage this into a new trial. 225 00:11:15,277 --> 00:11:16,376 - Come on, captain. 226 00:11:16,444 --> 00:11:17,744 The bracelet is too much of a coincidence. 227 00:11:17,811 --> 00:11:20,178 If she's telling the truth and that's in evidence-- 228 00:11:20,246 --> 00:11:24,279 - So I've got to call and rattle the cages on a closed case? 229 00:11:24,347 --> 00:11:28,716 Oh, all right. I'll talk to evidence. 230 00:11:28,784 --> 00:11:31,052 In the meantime, huh? 231 00:11:31,119 --> 00:11:33,620 Shake a leg on those other killings that I got from vicap. 232 00:11:33,688 --> 00:11:36,056 Find stoddard and show me something. 233 00:11:36,124 --> 00:11:37,557 Something that helps build a profile 234 00:11:37,625 --> 00:11:39,259 On who this guy actually is. 235 00:11:39,326 --> 00:11:41,327 [elevator doors close] 236 00:13:10,654 --> 00:13:13,222 - It's so interesting. Look at this. 237 00:13:13,289 --> 00:13:15,723 Every time this guy gets the ball, in the red, 238 00:13:15,791 --> 00:13:17,458 He stops at the top of the key, 239 00:13:17,526 --> 00:13:19,694 Fakes like he's gonna pass it, 240 00:13:19,762 --> 00:13:22,964 And then takes the shot for himself, every time. 241 00:13:23,032 --> 00:13:26,000 - You know, I'm not sure if this is what callas meant 242 00:13:26,068 --> 00:13:28,302 When she said, "shake a leg." 243 00:13:28,369 --> 00:13:29,970 - This is part of my routine. 244 00:13:30,038 --> 00:13:31,205 Helps me think. 245 00:13:31,272 --> 00:13:33,873 - And you thought it might help me think. 246 00:13:33,941 --> 00:13:35,842 - No harm, no foul. 247 00:13:35,909 --> 00:13:37,510 - Maybe it's just one of those things 248 00:13:37,577 --> 00:13:40,478 That, uh, we don't have in common, you know. 249 00:13:40,546 --> 00:13:41,646 But it is interesting. 250 00:13:41,714 --> 00:13:43,016 You know, if you watch these guys 251 00:13:43,084 --> 00:13:44,551 And their habits, 252 00:13:44,618 --> 00:13:47,619 You can kind of predict the outcome. 253 00:13:47,687 --> 00:13:49,018 - You know, I've never really been 254 00:13:49,086 --> 00:13:50,419 That much into basketball. 255 00:13:50,486 --> 00:13:52,452 - No, it's not really about basketball. 256 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,818 It's about routine. 257 00:13:53,886 --> 00:13:55,951 - Outcome, routine. I need something more-- 258 00:13:56,019 --> 00:13:57,619 - Trust. 259 00:13:57,687 --> 00:14:00,088 Trust me. 260 00:14:00,155 --> 00:14:02,190 You can't see it. 261 00:14:02,257 --> 00:14:04,058 I can't see it yet. 262 00:14:04,125 --> 00:14:06,626 But it's in there. 263 00:14:06,694 --> 00:14:08,994 The kalens, the stoddards. 264 00:14:09,062 --> 00:14:10,197 Here. 265 00:14:10,265 --> 00:14:15,205 What might link them is predictable routine. 266 00:14:15,273 --> 00:14:16,372 - Huh. 267 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,841 - Mm-hmm. Here. Look at that. 268 00:14:18,909 --> 00:14:21,944 Every time, he takes it in. 269 00:14:22,012 --> 00:14:23,679 Puts it in. 270 00:14:23,747 --> 00:14:26,248 - The stoddards. Their routine. 271 00:14:26,315 --> 00:14:27,382 I see that. 272 00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:28,950 Every Friday, they worked on their boat. 273 00:14:29,018 --> 00:14:30,251 - Yeah, yeah, and for ronnie and lee, 274 00:14:30,319 --> 00:14:32,720 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, kick, 275 00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:36,056 Salsa dancing every Thursday. 276 00:14:36,123 --> 00:14:37,724 - Which, by the way, if the salsa place served alcohol, 277 00:14:37,792 --> 00:14:39,992 Was probably a violation of her probation. 278 00:14:40,060 --> 00:14:42,327 - Probation? - Yeah, ronnie kalen. 279 00:14:42,395 --> 00:14:44,095 Before she killed her husband, 280 00:14:44,163 --> 00:14:45,597 She had a prior for possession. 281 00:14:45,664 --> 00:14:48,032 Cocaine. 282 00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:52,836 - Both couples had a routine. 283 00:14:52,904 --> 00:14:54,771 - No, wait. 284 00:14:54,839 --> 00:14:57,707 No, both couples had something in common. 285 00:14:57,775 --> 00:15:00,178 Ronnie kalen was seeing a probation officer. 286 00:15:00,245 --> 00:15:02,513 The stoddards were candidates to adopt. 287 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:04,247 - Social services. - Uh-huh. 288 00:15:04,315 --> 00:15:08,919 - A social worker would have access to addresses, 289 00:15:08,986 --> 00:15:12,991 Histories, details about anybody in the system. 290 00:15:15,127 --> 00:15:18,929 - But if the killer does what ronnie kalen described, 291 00:15:18,997 --> 00:15:20,230 Why leave survivors? 292 00:15:20,298 --> 00:15:23,232 - 'cause it's all about choice. 293 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:26,935 And killing them invalidates the choice. 294 00:15:35,009 --> 00:15:37,075 Trust. 295 00:15:43,780 --> 00:15:45,780 Wow. 296 00:15:48,683 --> 00:15:50,851 - Detective? - Huh? 297 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:53,954 - I had graphics make a photo enlargement for you. 298 00:15:54,021 --> 00:15:55,054 Happy hunting. 299 00:15:55,122 --> 00:15:57,723 - Thank you. 300 00:15:57,791 --> 00:15:59,258 - Thanks. 301 00:16:00,693 --> 00:16:02,995 - The hospital bracelet, what does it mean? 302 00:16:03,063 --> 00:16:05,431 - Uh, you're--you're the linguistic savant. 303 00:16:05,498 --> 00:16:06,732 You tell me. 304 00:16:09,502 --> 00:16:11,436 - I have no idea. 305 00:16:11,503 --> 00:16:13,304 - Really? 306 00:16:13,371 --> 00:16:15,238 I thought you read arabic and-- 307 00:16:15,306 --> 00:16:16,640 - A language spoken by millions of people. 308 00:16:16,707 --> 00:16:19,075 Only one person reads this one. 309 00:16:19,143 --> 00:16:21,477 - Serena, I'm disappointed in you. 310 00:16:21,545 --> 00:16:23,145 - Can I redeem myself by telling you 311 00:16:23,212 --> 00:16:24,713 That ronnie kalen's probation officer 312 00:16:24,781 --> 00:16:26,014 Is definitely not a suspect? 313 00:16:26,082 --> 00:16:28,382 - Really? Going out on a limb there? 314 00:16:28,450 --> 00:16:30,383 - He died of pancreatic cancer six months ago. 315 00:16:30,451 --> 00:16:31,584 - Oh, and the stoddards? 316 00:16:31,651 --> 00:16:33,651 - Their request to adopt was approved 317 00:16:33,719 --> 00:16:35,718 By a county psychiatric evaluator. 318 00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:37,649 Name was dr. Abel hazard. 319 00:16:43,285 --> 00:16:44,919 "hazard, abel p. 320 00:16:44,986 --> 00:16:46,720 "d.O.B. 10/16/66. 321 00:16:46,788 --> 00:16:49,222 Current address, 17 east 81st street." 322 00:16:49,289 --> 00:16:51,591 - Upper east side on a social worker's salary? 323 00:16:51,658 --> 00:16:54,692 - Holds title on a 2010 ford transit van. 324 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,260 Sure doesn't seem like the van type. 325 00:16:56,328 --> 00:16:57,628 - Mm-mm. 326 00:16:57,696 --> 00:16:59,062 - Check this. 327 00:16:59,130 --> 00:17:02,732 He reported over $3 million in taxable income last year. 328 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,034 Investment income from a trust fund. 329 00:17:05,102 --> 00:17:08,908 - Hmm. He's got rich people's disease too. 330 00:17:08,976 --> 00:17:11,578 Yeah, he's cheap. Credit report. 331 00:17:11,645 --> 00:17:13,413 - A judgment for stopping payment 332 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,582 On a $5,000 check to midland hardware. 333 00:17:16,650 --> 00:17:18,683 What's a milling lathe? - A milling lathe? 334 00:17:18,751 --> 00:17:21,552 It's a, uh, machine used for woodworking. 335 00:17:21,619 --> 00:17:22,952 My uncle had one. 336 00:17:23,020 --> 00:17:25,488 Made a bunk bed for me and my brother. 337 00:17:25,555 --> 00:17:26,922 - I didn't know you had a brother. 338 00:17:26,990 --> 00:17:28,557 - Yeah. - Younger or older? 339 00:17:28,625 --> 00:17:31,125 - Older. 340 00:17:33,962 --> 00:17:37,464 We should get down to, uh, social services. 341 00:17:38,733 --> 00:17:41,335 - I-I don't recognize him, no. 342 00:17:41,403 --> 00:17:43,070 - His name is ted stoddard. 343 00:17:43,138 --> 00:17:45,005 He and his wife wanted to adopt and you-- 344 00:17:45,073 --> 00:17:46,840 - The stoddards, yes. 345 00:17:46,909 --> 00:17:48,878 Well, I accepted their eligibility filing. 346 00:17:48,947 --> 00:17:50,081 Why? What's happened? 347 00:17:50,148 --> 00:17:51,985 - Mrs. Stoddard was murdered. 348 00:17:52,052 --> 00:17:53,688 Her husband's missing. 349 00:17:53,755 --> 00:17:56,158 - Oh, no. 350 00:17:56,225 --> 00:17:57,258 Whew. 351 00:17:57,326 --> 00:18:00,695 I...I only met them the, the one time, 352 00:18:00,762 --> 00:18:02,362 By accident, on an elevator. 353 00:18:02,430 --> 00:18:04,697 Uh, they seemed like a nice couple. 354 00:18:04,765 --> 00:18:07,399 Our, our field workers do the actual interviews. 355 00:18:07,467 --> 00:18:09,034 - Sounds a little impersonal 356 00:18:09,102 --> 00:18:11,403 If you're determining who qualifies for parenthood. 357 00:18:11,470 --> 00:18:12,437 - Yeah. 358 00:18:12,504 --> 00:18:14,338 Department policy frowns on any contact 359 00:18:14,406 --> 00:18:16,974 With the applicant until the supervisor makes his decision. 360 00:18:17,042 --> 00:18:19,976 - Mm-hmm. 361 00:18:20,044 --> 00:18:21,144 That sounds right. 362 00:18:21,212 --> 00:18:23,913 Uh, dr. Hazard, may I ask, 363 00:18:23,980 --> 00:18:25,914 Were you involved at all in a case 364 00:18:25,982 --> 00:18:27,683 With somebody named ronnie kalen? 365 00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:31,553 - Uh, yes, that woman who made up that bizarre story 366 00:18:31,621 --> 00:18:32,821 About her husband's shooting. 367 00:18:32,888 --> 00:18:35,956 I--I was interviewed by a forensic psychiatrist 368 00:18:36,024 --> 00:18:37,891 Regarding her fitness to stand trial. 369 00:18:37,959 --> 00:18:39,359 - Actually, I meant before. 370 00:18:39,427 --> 00:18:41,661 She was convicted on a prior drug charge 371 00:18:41,728 --> 00:18:44,228 And granted conditional probation. 372 00:18:44,296 --> 00:18:46,897 - Mm, yeah, sorry, no. I, I didn't handle that. 373 00:18:46,965 --> 00:18:50,067 - Then why did the forensic psychiatrist ask you about her? 374 00:18:50,134 --> 00:18:51,201 - Oh, we were old friends. 375 00:18:51,269 --> 00:18:52,803 He wanted an extra set of eyes, 376 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:53,904 So I weighed in. 377 00:18:53,972 --> 00:18:55,205 - Nice. 378 00:18:55,273 --> 00:18:57,407 Wow, this is-- that's a beautiful desk. 379 00:18:57,475 --> 00:18:58,976 - Oh, why, thank you. 380 00:18:59,043 --> 00:19:02,913 - Yeah. Huh. Feel that. Smooth as silk. 381 00:19:02,981 --> 00:19:06,116 It's yar. 382 00:19:06,184 --> 00:19:07,951 - This whole building's gray on gray. 383 00:19:08,019 --> 00:19:09,853 How did you wrangle this? 384 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,888 - Uh, my grandfather built it. 385 00:19:11,955 --> 00:19:15,590 - My family manufactured fine furniture in vienna. 386 00:19:15,658 --> 00:19:17,592 I've been told that albert speer 387 00:19:17,659 --> 00:19:20,128 Drafted his plans for the olympic stadium on this desk. 388 00:19:20,195 --> 00:19:21,362 [phone ringing] 389 00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:23,997 - Really? Your grandfather built this for him? 390 00:19:24,065 --> 00:19:26,765 - It saved his life. My father's too. 391 00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:28,533 They survived the camps together. 392 00:19:28,601 --> 00:19:30,268 - Thanks. 393 00:19:30,336 --> 00:19:32,803 Airport police just arrested ted stoddard 394 00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:35,072 At the private charter terminal at jfk. 395 00:19:42,415 --> 00:19:45,083 - Well, if I can be of any help... 396 00:19:45,151 --> 00:19:46,351 - Thanks. 397 00:19:46,419 --> 00:19:48,887 Hmm. 398 00:19:56,863 --> 00:20:01,700 - The timer was ticking away and, uh... 399 00:20:01,767 --> 00:20:04,969 I was terrified and... 400 00:20:05,037 --> 00:20:08,973 I began screaming. 401 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,774 And then I heard a shot. 402 00:20:10,842 --> 00:20:14,243 And, uh, my eyes were closed, 403 00:20:14,311 --> 00:20:18,980 But I--but I knew... 404 00:20:19,047 --> 00:20:23,449 I knew, because I was alive 405 00:20:23,517 --> 00:20:29,087 And I wished that I could die. 406 00:20:29,155 --> 00:20:30,455 [crying] 407 00:20:30,523 --> 00:20:32,824 You don't believe me. 408 00:20:32,893 --> 00:20:34,194 You don't believe me. 409 00:20:34,261 --> 00:20:36,968 - We just need to hear everything. 410 00:20:37,035 --> 00:20:40,639 - I loved linda. 411 00:20:40,706 --> 00:20:41,906 We were, uh... 412 00:20:41,974 --> 00:20:43,307 We were adopting a child. 413 00:20:43,375 --> 00:20:45,476 - The little girl. We know. 414 00:20:45,543 --> 00:20:47,811 - After the shot was fired, what happened next? 415 00:20:47,879 --> 00:20:51,848 - He just-- he walked over to the-- 416 00:20:51,915 --> 00:20:53,849 The video cameras 417 00:20:53,917 --> 00:20:55,817 And he just-- he turned them off. 418 00:20:55,885 --> 00:20:57,652 - He videotaped everything? 419 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,653 - I think so. 420 00:20:58,721 --> 00:21:00,388 There was, uh, the red light. 421 00:21:00,455 --> 00:21:01,856 It stopped blinking. 422 00:21:01,923 --> 00:21:05,292 And there were-- there were other machines, 423 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:08,662 Measuring, uh, vitals, and they were still going 424 00:21:08,729 --> 00:21:11,531 When I passed out. 425 00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:13,733 - What's the next thing you remember? 426 00:21:15,168 --> 00:21:19,472 - I woke up in central park, naked, 427 00:21:19,539 --> 00:21:21,273 In a-- in a hospital gown. 428 00:21:21,341 --> 00:21:23,709 - Hmm. 429 00:21:26,377 --> 00:21:28,978 - Yes, this-- 430 00:21:29,046 --> 00:21:30,546 It was in my pocket, 431 00:21:30,614 --> 00:21:31,780 And I gave it to the police. 432 00:21:31,848 --> 00:21:33,915 He had--he put it on my wrist. 433 00:21:33,983 --> 00:21:38,752 - Actually, that comes off of somebody else's wrist. 434 00:21:38,820 --> 00:21:39,886 - This one is yours. 435 00:21:39,954 --> 00:21:42,521 They're identical. 436 00:21:45,192 --> 00:21:47,526 Then every... 437 00:21:48,861 --> 00:21:52,096 It really happened. 438 00:21:52,163 --> 00:21:54,064 You--you believe me. 439 00:21:54,132 --> 00:21:58,602 You--you believe that... 440 00:22:00,238 --> 00:22:02,206 [crying] 441 00:22:09,011 --> 00:22:10,411 - There's too many left here. 442 00:22:10,479 --> 00:22:12,244 I mean, geez. He gets-- he gets it wrong here. 443 00:22:12,312 --> 00:22:13,377 There's too many of them left. 444 00:22:13,445 --> 00:22:15,809 - See, milgram was a scientist 445 00:22:15,875 --> 00:22:19,909 Who set out to prove that obedience to authority, uh, 446 00:22:19,977 --> 00:22:21,644 Overwhelms conscience. 447 00:22:21,711 --> 00:22:24,347 It established his preeminence in social psychology. 448 00:22:24,415 --> 00:22:26,682 To make his mark, milgram designed 449 00:22:26,750 --> 00:22:30,586 This landmark essay on human cruelty. 450 00:22:30,654 --> 00:22:35,891 An experimental subject is told to shock an unseen person. 451 00:22:35,959 --> 00:22:38,294 Now when the subject resists, 452 00:22:38,362 --> 00:22:40,163 He is told he has no choice. 453 00:22:40,231 --> 00:22:41,899 He must obey orders. 454 00:22:41,967 --> 00:22:43,401 [buzzer] 455 00:22:43,468 --> 00:22:44,702 - Wrong. 456 00:22:44,770 --> 00:22:47,205 195 volts. 457 00:22:47,272 --> 00:22:48,439 Dance. 458 00:22:48,507 --> 00:22:49,573 - Aah! 459 00:22:49,641 --> 00:22:50,708 - It all happened at yale. 460 00:22:50,776 --> 00:22:52,276 The screams came from actors, 461 00:22:52,344 --> 00:22:55,877 But the subjects believed that they were real, 462 00:22:55,944 --> 00:22:57,944 That they were torturing people. 463 00:22:58,012 --> 00:23:00,512 Look, some of them even enjoyed it. 464 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:02,113 - How do I feel? He was getting the shock. 465 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:03,180 I feel all right. 466 00:23:03,247 --> 00:23:08,349 - There will be intimacy. 467 00:23:08,416 --> 00:23:12,751 Here, let me just... 468 00:23:12,819 --> 00:23:15,019 Finish this... 469 00:23:15,087 --> 00:23:17,387 - It's your five grand, hon. 470 00:23:17,455 --> 00:23:18,588 Whatever you want. 471 00:23:18,656 --> 00:23:19,789 - Shock levels were automatically recorded 472 00:23:19,857 --> 00:23:20,990 By an event recorder 473 00:23:21,058 --> 00:23:23,626 Wired directly into the shock generator. 474 00:23:23,694 --> 00:23:25,028 - That is incorrect. 475 00:23:25,095 --> 00:23:27,196 This will be a 330. 476 00:23:27,264 --> 00:23:28,365 [buzzer] 477 00:23:28,432 --> 00:23:29,533 - Ow! 478 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,868 - All this fake screaming. 479 00:23:30,936 --> 00:23:33,637 You don't put people in simulations of conflict. 480 00:23:33,705 --> 00:23:37,208 You put people in conflict. 481 00:23:43,691 --> 00:23:46,726 - These are the dates of these murders. 482 00:23:46,794 --> 00:23:49,361 Uh, the date when linda stoddard was killed. 483 00:23:49,429 --> 00:23:51,830 This is when leeland kalen was killed. 484 00:23:51,897 --> 00:23:54,263 Now, imagine that these are a couple of sentences. 485 00:23:54,331 --> 00:23:55,431 Follow me. 486 00:23:55,499 --> 00:23:57,900 This symbol-- uh, this hand symbol, 487 00:23:57,968 --> 00:23:59,235 Is a gun. 488 00:23:59,302 --> 00:24:04,906 So, uh, this says, "will ted shoot linda?" 489 00:24:04,974 --> 00:24:07,409 "will ronnie shoot leeland?" 490 00:24:07,477 --> 00:24:09,912 "in the" and these symbols 491 00:24:09,980 --> 00:24:11,715 Indicate where the victim is to be shot, 492 00:24:11,782 --> 00:24:13,552 Depending on which is underlined. 493 00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:15,891 - So the smiley face represents the head. 494 00:24:15,959 --> 00:24:17,026 - Yep. 495 00:24:17,094 --> 00:24:18,027 - Pretty dark sense of irony. 496 00:24:18,095 --> 00:24:19,763 - Yes. Dark, dark. 497 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:23,669 Now this, uh, closed file, underlined, 498 00:24:23,737 --> 00:24:24,870 Indicates that the killer 499 00:24:24,938 --> 00:24:27,373 Has finished chronicling this event. 500 00:24:27,441 --> 00:24:30,176 Now this symbol, it's a laptop camera. 501 00:24:30,243 --> 00:24:32,812 Underlined, it means both these sessions 502 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,316 Were visually recorded. 503 00:24:34,384 --> 00:24:36,487 Now, this--it drove me absolutely nuts. 504 00:24:36,554 --> 00:24:37,654 [chuckles] 505 00:24:37,722 --> 00:24:40,057 "cts," underlined. "cnts," not underlined. 506 00:24:40,125 --> 00:24:41,192 I had no idea. 507 00:24:41,260 --> 00:24:42,996 But it finishes both these sentences. 508 00:24:43,066 --> 00:24:45,068 So now, watch this. 509 00:24:45,136 --> 00:24:46,837 "will ted shoot linda in the heart?" 510 00:24:46,904 --> 00:24:49,606 "will ronnie shoot leeland in the head?" 511 00:24:49,674 --> 00:24:52,575 Yes, he chose to shoot. 512 00:24:52,643 --> 00:24:55,211 Yes, she chose to shoot. 513 00:24:55,278 --> 00:24:59,081 - But that doesn't match what ronnie kalen said. 514 00:24:59,148 --> 00:25:03,251 In her case, he chose to shoot. 515 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,722 - Uh... 516 00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:08,457 I think only she lied. 517 00:25:08,525 --> 00:25:10,392 Yes, yes. She lied. 518 00:25:10,460 --> 00:25:13,662 She was given the choice, and she shot her husband. 519 00:25:13,730 --> 00:25:15,430 She told it the other way 520 00:25:15,498 --> 00:25:17,899 To make herself seem more innocent. 521 00:25:20,303 --> 00:25:23,537 - So who murdered these people? 522 00:25:23,604 --> 00:25:26,172 - It's a convenient fiction. 523 00:25:26,239 --> 00:25:29,108 Innately, all human behavior is self-serving. 524 00:25:29,175 --> 00:25:31,710 - So love, caring for others, 525 00:25:31,778 --> 00:25:32,844 You deny that exists? 526 00:25:32,912 --> 00:25:33,845 - What is this? 527 00:25:33,913 --> 00:25:36,380 - Serena found this on youlens. 528 00:25:36,447 --> 00:25:38,081 - Dr. Abel hazard. 529 00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:40,284 He published an article on politics. 530 00:25:40,352 --> 00:25:41,886 His premise, freedom of choice 531 00:25:41,953 --> 00:25:44,254 Is contrary to human nature. 532 00:25:44,322 --> 00:25:47,157 - Simplify the choice-- their life or someone else's-- 533 00:25:47,224 --> 00:25:50,292 In a clinical, clean, experimental environment, 534 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,261 They will always choose survival. 535 00:25:52,329 --> 00:25:56,097 - Dr. Hazard, if, god forbid, you ever tested that theory, 536 00:25:56,165 --> 00:25:57,432 You'd be wrong. 537 00:25:57,500 --> 00:25:59,867 We're out of time, dr. Hazard. 538 00:25:59,935 --> 00:26:01,235 - He's taught classes 539 00:26:01,303 --> 00:26:03,738 And given long-term social services training seminars 540 00:26:03,806 --> 00:26:06,040 In all the places where these killings occurred. 541 00:26:06,108 --> 00:26:07,274 - And his experiment 542 00:26:07,342 --> 00:26:08,642 That he's almost going to talk about there 543 00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:11,345 Is what he did to ted stoddard and ronnie kalen. 544 00:26:11,413 --> 00:26:14,780 Forced them to make this horrifying choice. 545 00:26:14,848 --> 00:26:16,915 - Social services worked well for him. 546 00:26:16,983 --> 00:26:18,617 He had access to everything. 547 00:26:18,684 --> 00:26:19,751 - Wouldn't he have put hospital bands 548 00:26:19,819 --> 00:26:21,252 On the victims as well? 549 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,553 - Oh, I think he did, but he cut them off. 550 00:26:22,621 --> 00:26:24,588 - And leave them on living witnesses? 551 00:26:24,655 --> 00:26:25,822 That doesn't make sense. 552 00:26:25,890 --> 00:26:27,256 - Yeah, well, I think he wants 553 00:26:27,324 --> 00:26:29,090 An element of credulity 554 00:26:29,158 --> 00:26:30,358 For the stories he knew they'd tell, 555 00:26:30,425 --> 00:26:34,295 A hint of what only he can reveal to the world. 556 00:26:35,898 --> 00:26:38,533 - I'm gonna need a search warrant, emma. 557 00:26:42,276 --> 00:26:45,780 - Uh, kallman. Captain callas. 558 00:26:45,847 --> 00:26:48,383 - No sign of foul play or traces of blood. 559 00:26:48,451 --> 00:26:51,318 No abnormal levels of ammonia or alkaloid phosphates. 560 00:26:51,386 --> 00:26:52,920 He didn't try to scrub evidence. 561 00:26:52,987 --> 00:26:55,955 The place is clean, captain. 562 00:26:56,023 --> 00:26:58,257 - Thank you. 563 00:26:59,626 --> 00:27:04,164 - [sighs] clearly a disappointment. 564 00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:06,066 - It's a beginning. 565 00:27:06,133 --> 00:27:07,667 Not unlike what you do. 566 00:27:07,735 --> 00:27:09,036 It starts with a premise. 567 00:27:09,103 --> 00:27:11,872 - Without empirical proof, it's nothing. 568 00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:14,509 - We'll find it. 569 00:27:14,576 --> 00:27:16,977 We won't make it up. 570 00:27:20,515 --> 00:27:22,048 - He won't stop. 571 00:27:22,116 --> 00:27:23,716 He thinks what he's doing is very important. 572 00:27:23,784 --> 00:27:25,184 - So does judge rickenbakker. 573 00:27:25,252 --> 00:27:26,785 He just granted mr. Hazard 574 00:27:26,853 --> 00:27:28,553 A cease-and-desist injunction 575 00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:30,821 Forbidding police surveillance. 576 00:27:30,889 --> 00:27:32,857 - Well, you know, captain, 577 00:27:32,924 --> 00:27:34,725 The victims talk about this wood smell 578 00:27:34,793 --> 00:27:35,826 And the heavy wooden chairs. 579 00:27:35,894 --> 00:27:37,094 He bought a milling machine. 580 00:27:37,161 --> 00:27:38,728 It's someplace. 581 00:27:38,796 --> 00:27:41,030 - Yeah, well, whatever mr. Hazard is doing 582 00:27:41,098 --> 00:27:42,865 Has some origin in his life. 583 00:27:42,932 --> 00:27:45,733 Now his parents, his grandparents were survivors, 584 00:27:45,801 --> 00:27:49,502 So maybe, maybe we start with the camps. 585 00:27:49,570 --> 00:27:51,738 - Since abel hazard's father and grandfather 586 00:27:51,806 --> 00:27:53,741 Were both survivors of the holocaust, 587 00:27:53,809 --> 00:27:55,743 It's not such a wild guess to think 588 00:27:55,811 --> 00:27:57,712 That, uh, he might be carrying around 589 00:27:57,780 --> 00:28:01,681 More furniture than just that desk. 590 00:28:03,316 --> 00:28:07,211 Hasam, mm, hazan... 591 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:09,645 No--no hazard. Okay. 592 00:28:09,713 --> 00:28:13,239 What if "hazard" was a translation? 593 00:28:13,306 --> 00:28:15,370 - Could be hebrew, or perhaps, if he was sephardic, 594 00:28:15,438 --> 00:28:16,837 It could be ladino or spanish. 595 00:28:16,905 --> 00:28:18,505 But he doesn't look sephardic. - No. 596 00:28:18,573 --> 00:28:20,607 Well, abel said that the family business was in vienna, 597 00:28:20,675 --> 00:28:24,077 So I'm thinking maybe more likely yiddish or german. 598 00:28:24,145 --> 00:28:26,579 Um... 599 00:28:26,647 --> 00:28:28,114 You know what I'm thinking about? 600 00:28:28,181 --> 00:28:30,481 You know when you--when you're driving in the alps 601 00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:32,782 On those icy roads, you see signs. 602 00:28:32,850 --> 00:28:35,317 You see signs with two words. 603 00:28:35,385 --> 00:28:36,352 "gefahr" is the last one. 604 00:28:36,419 --> 00:28:37,553 There's a word preceding it. 605 00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:38,721 It means "caution." 606 00:28:38,788 --> 00:28:40,789 "vorsicht," "vorsicht." type in "vorsicht." 607 00:28:43,091 --> 00:28:44,525 [beeps] 608 00:28:44,593 --> 00:28:46,526 - No "vorsicht," but "vorsichtiger." 609 00:28:46,594 --> 00:28:49,161 Leon, born September 24th, 1925. 610 00:28:49,229 --> 00:28:51,229 Oh, trade "cabinet maker." 611 00:28:51,297 --> 00:28:52,396 - And he survived. 612 00:28:52,464 --> 00:28:54,598 - Yeah, and he gives an interview on tape. 613 00:28:54,666 --> 00:28:57,434 1976. Tape. This way. 614 00:28:57,501 --> 00:29:00,603 - Dr. Kogel, he wanted him gone. 615 00:29:00,670 --> 00:29:02,705 But my father made a dresser for an officer, 616 00:29:02,773 --> 00:29:04,340 And that officer decided 617 00:29:04,408 --> 00:29:06,775 My father was worth keeping alive. 618 00:29:06,843 --> 00:29:09,577 - Dr. Kogel, he was a physician? 619 00:29:09,645 --> 00:29:11,179 - Yes, they were all doctors 620 00:29:11,246 --> 00:29:14,048 Who picked who lived and who died. 621 00:29:14,116 --> 00:29:18,585 But later, herr dr. Kogel told me 622 00:29:18,653 --> 00:29:20,754 That one of my parents had to go, 623 00:29:20,822 --> 00:29:23,959 And I would decide which one. 624 00:29:24,027 --> 00:29:25,628 Hmm. 625 00:29:25,695 --> 00:29:27,496 But I couldn't. 626 00:29:27,564 --> 00:29:30,200 I wouldn't choose. 627 00:29:30,267 --> 00:29:31,768 And then kogel told this officer 628 00:29:31,836 --> 00:29:33,637 To shoot all three of us. 629 00:29:33,705 --> 00:29:36,140 But the officer-- 630 00:29:36,208 --> 00:29:37,542 - He interceded. 631 00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:39,710 - Yeah, he shouted at my father. 632 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:44,315 He demanded him to choose, hmm? Him or my mother. 633 00:29:44,382 --> 00:29:46,449 Yes. 634 00:29:46,517 --> 00:29:49,284 Dr. Kogel enjoyed this game. 635 00:29:49,352 --> 00:29:53,287 - What happened next? 636 00:29:53,355 --> 00:29:58,658 - My father... Survived the camps. 637 00:30:01,929 --> 00:30:04,596 We do this to keep the history from vanishing, 638 00:30:04,664 --> 00:30:06,897 But I wish it would vanish. 639 00:30:06,965 --> 00:30:11,900 - Why, mr. Vorsichtiger? 640 00:30:11,967 --> 00:30:17,302 - Oh, my son. I was so happy when he was born. 641 00:30:17,370 --> 00:30:20,603 But as he grew older, well, 642 00:30:20,671 --> 00:30:23,105 There I was again, at age ten, 643 00:30:23,173 --> 00:30:25,908 Right in front of me. 644 00:30:25,976 --> 00:30:27,476 And it came back. 645 00:30:27,544 --> 00:30:29,144 - The memory? 646 00:30:29,212 --> 00:30:32,814 - No, the choice. 647 00:30:32,881 --> 00:30:35,949 I had to tell him 648 00:30:36,016 --> 00:30:39,318 My father's story, 649 00:30:39,386 --> 00:30:43,722 Make him know that under some circumstances, 650 00:30:43,790 --> 00:30:47,358 There can be no shame. 651 00:30:51,397 --> 00:30:53,898 - I think abel 652 00:30:53,966 --> 00:30:56,034 Wants everybody to feel what he felt. 653 00:30:56,101 --> 00:30:57,702 He thinks that it's something he can prove. 654 00:30:57,770 --> 00:31:00,271 - Take away his shame. - Mm-hmm. 655 00:31:00,338 --> 00:31:02,439 So now we may have some understanding of why. 656 00:31:02,507 --> 00:31:04,574 - But we don't have proof. 657 00:31:04,642 --> 00:31:06,976 - Altruism, loyalty, 658 00:31:07,044 --> 00:31:11,347 Even feelings of profound affection vanish 659 00:31:11,415 --> 00:31:14,884 When faced with the simple deductive choice 660 00:31:14,952 --> 00:31:16,653 Of life or death. 661 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,354 I apologize. 662 00:31:18,422 --> 00:31:21,090 The selection process is extreme, 663 00:31:21,158 --> 00:31:22,158 But the rigors of science-- 664 00:31:22,226 --> 00:31:23,859 - Science? What? 665 00:31:23,927 --> 00:31:26,295 - Instruments now monitor your heart rate, 666 00:31:26,363 --> 00:31:28,631 Gsr, all vital signs. 667 00:31:28,699 --> 00:31:30,966 This is important. - What the hell are you doing? 668 00:31:31,034 --> 00:31:33,068 - You--I'm explaining that. 669 00:31:33,135 --> 00:31:35,704 You are subjects 670 00:31:35,771 --> 00:31:39,641 In a socio-psychological experiment. 671 00:31:39,709 --> 00:31:43,546 And since the last test was female, 672 00:31:43,614 --> 00:31:47,618 Tonight the subject is male. 673 00:31:47,685 --> 00:31:50,822 - No, no. - Ted. 674 00:31:50,889 --> 00:31:53,357 - [murmuring] - he's going to kill us. 675 00:31:53,425 --> 00:31:57,762 - Now, mr. Stoddard 676 00:31:57,829 --> 00:32:00,332 Will be presented with a simple choice. 677 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,070 He will have 25 seconds in which to decide 678 00:32:03,138 --> 00:32:04,740 Between killing his wife 679 00:32:04,807 --> 00:32:08,118 Or being killed himself. 680 00:32:08,185 --> 00:32:09,587 [ticking] 681 00:32:09,654 --> 00:32:11,627 - T-t-t-- - [moans] 682 00:32:11,695 --> 00:32:13,901 - No, no. 683 00:32:13,969 --> 00:32:15,740 T-t-ted. 684 00:32:15,808 --> 00:32:17,509 Ted. - 20 seconds. 685 00:32:17,577 --> 00:32:19,278 - Ted, you can't do it, please. 686 00:32:19,345 --> 00:32:21,079 - [moans] - [cries out] 687 00:32:21,147 --> 00:32:23,248 Ted! 688 00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:24,449 No! 689 00:32:24,517 --> 00:32:25,717 [ticking] 690 00:32:25,785 --> 00:32:27,720 - Aah! - [screams] 691 00:32:43,007 --> 00:32:45,376 - Hey. Hey, I hope you don't mind. 692 00:32:45,444 --> 00:32:47,313 I'm using your computer. 693 00:32:47,381 --> 00:32:50,351 Actually, I've made a discovery. 694 00:32:50,419 --> 00:32:51,886 Look at this. 695 00:32:51,954 --> 00:32:54,690 Uh, abel's birth was registered 696 00:32:54,758 --> 00:32:56,824 As abel vorsichtiger. 697 00:32:56,892 --> 00:32:59,829 He anglicized it to hazard 15 years ago. 698 00:32:59,896 --> 00:33:02,063 - And this is relevant because... 699 00:33:02,131 --> 00:33:05,032 - As abel vorsichtiger, four years ago, 700 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:08,369 He bought a house in westchester. 701 00:33:08,436 --> 00:33:11,571 323 willow drive. 702 00:33:11,639 --> 00:33:13,206 - Do I hear a train? 703 00:33:13,274 --> 00:33:14,807 [nichols writing] 704 00:33:14,875 --> 00:33:17,410 - You know, the use of a, uh, different name 705 00:33:17,478 --> 00:33:20,113 Could give us probable cause for a warrant. 706 00:33:20,181 --> 00:33:23,187 It's a hard sell, but you with our captain, 707 00:33:23,254 --> 00:33:24,757 One on one, two women, you know. 708 00:33:24,824 --> 00:33:27,458 - So I pull some gender thing 709 00:33:27,526 --> 00:33:28,926 And you're doing what? 710 00:33:28,994 --> 00:33:31,328 Going there and breaking in? 711 00:33:31,395 --> 00:33:34,563 - You have my solemn word I won't do that. 712 00:33:34,631 --> 00:33:38,433 - Your solemn word? 713 00:33:38,502 --> 00:33:40,636 I guess it's time I tested that. 714 00:33:54,184 --> 00:33:56,688 [knocks] 715 00:34:14,872 --> 00:34:16,539 Hmm. 716 00:34:20,477 --> 00:34:21,811 - Alone? 717 00:34:24,647 --> 00:34:26,680 - Yes, I am, actually. 718 00:34:26,748 --> 00:34:28,281 Hey, I just peeked. 719 00:34:28,349 --> 00:34:31,484 You do all this amazing work 720 00:34:31,551 --> 00:34:33,118 In the family tradition, do you? 721 00:34:34,787 --> 00:34:37,489 - Yeah. Come. 722 00:34:37,557 --> 00:34:39,391 I'll give you the tour while I call my lawyer 723 00:34:39,458 --> 00:34:42,660 And tell him you violated the injunction. 724 00:34:42,727 --> 00:34:46,163 - Seems a fair deal. 725 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:49,365 I've got to apologize for my lack of compassion. 726 00:34:49,433 --> 00:34:53,002 I saw the testimony that your father gave. 727 00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:56,639 - It's a story I've heard many times before. 728 00:34:56,706 --> 00:34:59,674 - Unfortunate that his pain was passed to you. 729 00:34:59,742 --> 00:35:01,509 - So it ends here. 730 00:35:01,577 --> 00:35:04,110 I don't have children. 731 00:35:04,178 --> 00:35:06,278 - Still, you passed it to others. 732 00:35:09,048 --> 00:35:10,350 [sighs] 733 00:35:10,418 --> 00:35:12,486 Ted stoddard, ronnie kalen. 734 00:35:12,554 --> 00:35:15,222 - I-I feel sure that my legacy 735 00:35:15,289 --> 00:35:18,790 Will justify some inconvenience 736 00:35:18,858 --> 00:35:19,891 To a few individuals. 737 00:35:19,958 --> 00:35:21,192 - Your legacy? 738 00:35:21,259 --> 00:35:23,526 You're not gonna have any legacy in science. 739 00:35:23,594 --> 00:35:24,694 Is that what you're talking about? 740 00:35:24,762 --> 00:35:27,262 You're making judgments about human nature 741 00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:28,696 Without any proof. 742 00:35:28,764 --> 00:35:30,331 - There is proof, 743 00:35:30,399 --> 00:35:32,066 And when the time is right, I will show it. 744 00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:33,566 - When the time is right? How about now? 745 00:35:33,634 --> 00:35:34,767 What's wrong with now? I'm here. 746 00:35:34,835 --> 00:35:36,301 I'm willing. 747 00:35:36,369 --> 00:35:40,704 Uh-huh, that's what I thought. 748 00:35:40,771 --> 00:35:42,205 Face it, you did two trials. 749 00:35:42,272 --> 00:35:44,606 Yes, ted stoddard shot his wife 750 00:35:44,673 --> 00:35:45,907 In order to save himself. 751 00:35:45,974 --> 00:35:49,242 It fits your theory. 752 00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:52,111 But leland kalen died 753 00:35:52,179 --> 00:35:54,479 Refusing to shoot his wife. 754 00:35:54,547 --> 00:35:55,880 They cancel each other out. 755 00:35:55,948 --> 00:35:57,581 So, inconclusive. 756 00:35:57,649 --> 00:35:59,816 Bauhaus, is this? 757 00:35:59,884 --> 00:36:02,219 - Bauhaus? Werkbund. 758 00:36:02,286 --> 00:36:06,021 My grandfather could build bauhaus in his sleep. 759 00:36:06,089 --> 00:36:10,358 Ugh. The junk that passes for quality these days. 760 00:36:10,426 --> 00:36:14,499 There's no artistry. There's no structure. 761 00:36:14,567 --> 00:36:16,536 It's--it's meaningless. 762 00:36:16,604 --> 00:36:18,005 - Meaningless. 763 00:36:18,072 --> 00:36:22,181 Yeah, well, that brings us back to your theory. 764 00:36:22,248 --> 00:36:27,185 You know, the social sciences nowadays, 765 00:36:27,253 --> 00:36:29,720 With the blogs and kooky websites, 766 00:36:29,788 --> 00:36:30,922 Motivational speakers. 767 00:36:30,989 --> 00:36:32,823 - None of that has any bearing on what I do. 768 00:36:32,891 --> 00:36:36,159 - You can't bolster flawed theory, abel. 769 00:36:36,227 --> 00:36:38,861 Kammerer, with miller, with him, I'm sure, 770 00:36:38,929 --> 00:36:40,529 Doctored those toads 771 00:36:40,597 --> 00:36:42,531 In order to disprove evolution. 772 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:45,033 Lysenko faked his results under stalin, 773 00:36:45,101 --> 00:36:46,968 Had all his critics murdered. 774 00:36:47,036 --> 00:36:49,704 Flawed science is no science. 775 00:36:49,772 --> 00:36:53,574 - But my results are definitive. 776 00:36:57,814 --> 00:37:00,182 If I'm such a monster, 777 00:37:00,249 --> 00:37:02,717 Aren't you a little afraid? 778 00:37:05,354 --> 00:37:07,022 - No. 779 00:37:07,089 --> 00:37:08,957 My mistake was thinking that actually 780 00:37:09,025 --> 00:37:11,192 You maybe had something to hide. 781 00:37:11,260 --> 00:37:14,062 But you got no proof. 782 00:37:15,831 --> 00:37:19,067 - I have recorded data. 783 00:37:19,134 --> 00:37:21,970 It has been checked and rechecked. 784 00:37:22,037 --> 00:37:25,339 - Come on, if you had it, you'd show it. 785 00:37:25,407 --> 00:37:29,010 Your so-called experiments were a flop. 786 00:37:29,078 --> 00:37:32,380 - All right. 787 00:37:35,684 --> 00:37:38,185 All right. 788 00:38:25,328 --> 00:38:27,463 20 seconds. 789 00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:29,965 - Ronnie, no, please. It's me! 790 00:38:30,032 --> 00:38:31,933 Ronnie, no, no, no, no, no, no! 791 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,767 No, ronnie, no! - I'm sorry! 792 00:38:33,835 --> 00:38:36,303 - Ronnie, no! Oh, god, no! 793 00:38:36,371 --> 00:38:39,239 [gunshot] - aah! 794 00:38:42,609 --> 00:38:44,610 - Proof. 795 00:38:46,412 --> 00:38:49,547 Was it enough? 796 00:38:52,317 --> 00:38:57,788 - In true science, repeatability is everything. 797 00:39:01,826 --> 00:39:02,826 [click] 798 00:39:02,894 --> 00:39:04,561 - It's okay. 799 00:39:04,629 --> 00:39:05,729 - There. 800 00:39:05,797 --> 00:39:07,398 - It's okay, it's okay. 801 00:39:07,465 --> 00:39:08,799 It's okay. 802 00:39:08,867 --> 00:39:09,967 [gunshot] 803 00:39:10,034 --> 00:39:10,968 Aah! 804 00:39:11,035 --> 00:39:12,670 [gunshot] 805 00:39:12,737 --> 00:39:14,305 - [moaning] 806 00:39:14,372 --> 00:39:17,374 [gunshot] 807 00:39:19,544 --> 00:39:22,679 - All done under the most stringent of circumstances. 808 00:39:22,747 --> 00:39:24,982 Nothing manipulated or altered. 809 00:39:25,049 --> 00:39:29,420 Age, sex, religion, income, race, 810 00:39:29,487 --> 00:39:32,156 All painstakingly factored in. 811 00:39:32,223 --> 00:39:35,159 Five years, nine different cities. 812 00:39:35,226 --> 00:39:37,894 Out of ten trials, 813 00:39:37,962 --> 00:39:40,897 Only one subject shows selfless altruism 814 00:39:40,965 --> 00:39:45,102 And that was only because of their age. 815 00:39:45,169 --> 00:39:47,170 - Yeah. You know who observed that also? 816 00:39:47,238 --> 00:39:49,239 The nazis. 817 00:39:49,307 --> 00:39:50,574 And they recorded it. 818 00:39:50,641 --> 00:39:52,542 Just like you, it's their legacy, 819 00:39:52,610 --> 00:39:55,445 Which you have successfully carried forward. 820 00:39:55,513 --> 00:39:57,547 - No. This is my work. 821 00:39:57,615 --> 00:39:58,815 - Your work? 822 00:39:58,883 --> 00:40:01,751 Dr. Kogel could have shown us this. 823 00:40:01,819 --> 00:40:04,320 Dr. Mengele with his experiments on twins. 824 00:40:04,388 --> 00:40:05,789 - These are my validations. 825 00:40:05,856 --> 00:40:08,725 - They had validations at a cost of suffering 826 00:40:08,793 --> 00:40:10,293 And human lives. 827 00:40:10,361 --> 00:40:13,797 And what did their experiments prove, abel, huh? 828 00:40:13,865 --> 00:40:16,099 The nazi scientists, what did their experiments prove? 829 00:40:16,167 --> 00:40:17,367 - You have no right to-- 830 00:40:17,435 --> 00:40:19,102 - I have every right to compare you to your colleagues. 831 00:40:19,170 --> 00:40:20,236 That much you have proven. 832 00:40:20,304 --> 00:40:21,938 What did your nazi colleagues... [door opens] 833 00:40:22,006 --> 00:40:23,206 Give to science? 834 00:40:23,274 --> 00:40:24,574 [footsteps descending stairs] 835 00:40:24,642 --> 00:40:26,042 The same thing that you've given to science. 836 00:40:26,110 --> 00:40:27,977 Nothing. - No. 837 00:40:28,045 --> 00:40:31,180 After all of my work, you cannot compare me with them. 838 00:40:31,248 --> 00:40:34,350 - Just because you've been brutalized by others 839 00:40:34,418 --> 00:40:37,721 Does not mean that brutalizing others is compulsory. 840 00:40:37,789 --> 00:40:39,189 Maniac. 841 00:40:39,257 --> 00:40:41,157 And what happened to your family 842 00:40:41,225 --> 00:40:44,326 Is too unfathomably complicated to even go into. 843 00:40:45,995 --> 00:40:47,762 - What is all this? 844 00:40:47,830 --> 00:40:49,230 - Part of this moron's efforts 845 00:40:49,297 --> 00:40:52,633 To prove something that, in science, 846 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:55,835 Failed miserably, but is gonna be of great value 847 00:40:55,903 --> 00:40:57,103 In convicting him of murder. 848 00:40:57,171 --> 00:40:59,071 - No. 849 00:40:59,139 --> 00:41:02,574 I have proven selfless behavior is a myth. 850 00:41:02,642 --> 00:41:03,975 No one has a choice. 851 00:41:04,043 --> 00:41:07,612 - Tell him about his choices. 852 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:09,680 - You may choose to remain silent. 853 00:41:09,748 --> 00:41:11,081 It is your right. 854 00:41:11,149 --> 00:41:13,483 You may also choose a lawyer. 855 00:41:13,551 --> 00:41:17,687 If not, one will be provided for you. 856 00:41:19,489 --> 00:41:21,524 Ronnie kalen didn't waste any time. 857 00:41:21,591 --> 00:41:23,292 - Let me guess. She wants a new trial? 858 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,428 - And damages for the time she's already served. 859 00:41:25,495 --> 00:41:26,429 - Yeah. 860 00:41:26,496 --> 00:41:28,064 - Come on, she's guilty. 861 00:41:28,131 --> 00:41:30,132 - Well, you know, it's a valid question 862 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,135 How anybody'll act under those circumstances. 863 00:41:33,203 --> 00:41:35,338 - Are you buying into abel hazard's theory? 864 00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:37,240 - Certainly not. People rush into fires. 865 00:41:37,307 --> 00:41:38,841 They jump in front of trains. 866 00:41:38,909 --> 00:41:40,910 They leap into shark-infested waters. 867 00:41:40,978 --> 00:41:42,612 Who doesn't want to think 868 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,748 That they could sacrifice their own life 869 00:41:44,815 --> 00:41:46,316 To save somebody else's? 870 00:41:46,384 --> 00:41:48,151 It goes to the core of our humanity, but-- 871 00:41:48,219 --> 00:41:50,287 - But no one knows what they'd do 872 00:41:50,354 --> 00:41:52,189 Until something actually happens. 873 00:41:52,256 --> 00:41:53,290 - Yeah. 874 00:41:53,357 --> 00:41:55,492 Suddenly we find out who we really are. 875 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,929 But maybe it isn't who we want to be. 876 00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00 www.subtitleonline.com 876 00:41:59,305 --> 00:42:05,471 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 61502

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