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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,081 --> 00:00:09,481 Bettencourt Schueller Foundation presents 2 00:00:11,081 --> 00:00:14,361 A GoodPlanet Foundation project 3 00:00:16,001 --> 00:00:19,281 With the participation of France T�l�visions 4 00:00:20,921 --> 00:00:24,201 A film by Yann Arthus-Bertrand 5 00:03:46,601 --> 00:03:48,481 I remember... 6 00:03:50,561 --> 00:03:52,321 my stepfather 7 00:03:52,481 --> 00:03:56,201 would beat me with extension cords 8 00:03:56,881 --> 00:03:58,481 and hangers, 9 00:03:58,641 --> 00:04:01,201 pieces of wood and all kinds of stuff. 10 00:04:02,161 --> 00:04:05,481 He would tell me: "It hurt me more than you. 11 00:04:06,801 --> 00:04:09,281 "I only did it, because I love you." 12 00:04:10,561 --> 00:04:14,001 It communicated the wrong message 13 00:04:14,161 --> 00:04:16,441 to me about what love was. 14 00:04:18,001 --> 00:04:20,441 So, for many years, 15 00:04:20,601 --> 00:04:23,401 I thought that love was supposed to hurt. 16 00:04:25,281 --> 00:04:27,761 I hurt everyone that I loved. 17 00:04:28,641 --> 00:04:31,841 And I measured love 18 00:04:32,001 --> 00:04:35,601 by how much pain someone would take from me. 19 00:04:39,281 --> 00:04:41,841 And it wasn't until I came to prison, 20 00:04:42,001 --> 00:04:44,841 an environment that is devoid of love, 21 00:04:46,001 --> 00:04:48,481 that I began to have some understanding 22 00:04:48,641 --> 00:04:51,641 about what it actually was and was not. 23 00:04:58,081 --> 00:04:59,721 I met someone. 24 00:05:05,201 --> 00:05:09,241 She gave me my first real insight into what love was. 25 00:05:09,401 --> 00:05:12,921 She saw past my condition 26 00:05:13,481 --> 00:05:17,041 and the fact that I was in prison with a life sentence 27 00:05:17,201 --> 00:05:20,921 for doing the worst kind of murder that a man can do: 28 00:05:21,081 --> 00:05:23,401 murdering a woman and a child. 29 00:05:24,321 --> 00:05:26,161 It was Agnes, 30 00:05:27,281 --> 00:05:29,521 the mother and grandmother of... 31 00:05:30,801 --> 00:05:33,841 Patricia and Chris, that I murdered, 32 00:05:34,401 --> 00:05:37,521 who gave me my best lesson about love. 33 00:05:39,001 --> 00:05:41,721 By all rights, she should hate me. 34 00:05:46,721 --> 00:05:48,721 But she didn't. 35 00:05:53,121 --> 00:05:55,161 Over the course of time, 36 00:05:57,561 --> 00:05:59,881 through the journey that we took, 37 00:06:02,601 --> 00:06:04,561 it has been pretty amazing, 38 00:06:07,481 --> 00:06:09,441 she gave me love. 39 00:06:36,041 --> 00:06:38,201 She taught me what it was. 40 00:08:23,801 --> 00:08:26,241 I'm very happy when it rains, 41 00:08:26,401 --> 00:08:27,641 when I drink milk 42 00:08:27,801 --> 00:08:29,161 and I have a good life. 43 00:08:29,321 --> 00:08:30,481 When I put on weight. 44 00:08:30,641 --> 00:08:32,601 I'm thin now. 45 00:08:32,761 --> 00:08:34,121 When it rains, 46 00:08:34,281 --> 00:08:35,961 I am very happy. 47 00:08:36,121 --> 00:08:37,321 When I drink milk 48 00:08:37,481 --> 00:08:39,681 and I eat everything I like. 49 00:08:39,841 --> 00:08:42,841 And when I sleep with the man I love 50 00:08:43,001 --> 00:08:44,561 who says sweet things to me. 51 00:08:44,721 --> 00:08:47,361 And when I am in a nice hut 52 00:08:47,521 --> 00:08:49,961 that protects me from the cold and rain. 53 00:08:50,121 --> 00:08:51,321 Those are the things 54 00:08:51,481 --> 00:08:53,681 that make me happy. 55 00:09:00,441 --> 00:09:02,041 Happiness, for us, 56 00:09:02,961 --> 00:09:04,441 would be... 57 00:09:05,361 --> 00:09:07,001 having food, 58 00:09:07,481 --> 00:09:09,201 a small piece of land 59 00:09:10,681 --> 00:09:13,041 and a real place to live, 60 00:09:13,201 --> 00:09:15,601 with electricity day and night. 61 00:09:16,641 --> 00:09:19,161 We wouldn't have to sleep in the dark. 62 00:09:20,921 --> 00:09:23,081 That would be happiness. 63 00:09:23,241 --> 00:09:24,801 But we sleep on the floor, 64 00:09:24,961 --> 00:09:28,321 without even a mat, on straw. 65 00:09:28,481 --> 00:09:29,561 With electricity, 66 00:09:29,721 --> 00:09:33,041 there would be light in my children's lives. 67 00:09:35,681 --> 00:09:37,081 So, 68 00:09:37,641 --> 00:09:39,521 as I had 69 00:09:39,681 --> 00:09:42,721 a difficult childhood without any money, 70 00:09:43,681 --> 00:09:46,281 when I went to university, 71 00:09:46,881 --> 00:09:49,801 I got a grant 72 00:09:49,961 --> 00:09:52,961 and I bought myself a motorbike. 73 00:09:53,521 --> 00:09:54,681 Brand-new! 74 00:09:54,841 --> 00:09:58,201 I was the first person to start it up. 75 00:09:58,361 --> 00:10:00,441 I was the first person to get on it 76 00:10:00,601 --> 00:10:02,481 to go home. 77 00:10:02,641 --> 00:10:04,201 When I feel the wind 78 00:10:04,361 --> 00:10:06,281 whipping me as I ride along, 79 00:10:06,441 --> 00:10:08,081 knowing that I'm not 80 00:10:08,241 --> 00:10:10,001 on someone else's motorbike. 81 00:10:10,161 --> 00:10:12,201 It's my very own motorbike. 82 00:10:14,201 --> 00:10:16,161 I arrived home, 83 00:10:16,321 --> 00:10:17,441 and to get to sleep, 84 00:10:17,601 --> 00:10:19,361 I put the bike in my bedroom 85 00:10:19,521 --> 00:10:21,161 and I locked myself in with it. 86 00:10:21,321 --> 00:10:22,721 That way, I could smell 87 00:10:22,881 --> 00:10:24,761 the hot engine. 88 00:10:24,921 --> 00:10:27,401 The smell of the engine, 89 00:10:28,001 --> 00:10:29,361 the new bike smell. 90 00:10:29,521 --> 00:10:31,321 And when I turned the light on, 91 00:10:31,481 --> 00:10:33,721 I could see it was my very own bike. 92 00:10:33,881 --> 00:10:35,761 I couldn't put the bike 93 00:10:35,921 --> 00:10:37,921 on the bed, under the covers, 94 00:10:38,081 --> 00:10:40,041 but it's what I wanted to do. 95 00:10:40,201 --> 00:10:41,201 Yes... 96 00:10:41,961 --> 00:10:44,401 I felt it. Yes. 97 00:10:44,561 --> 00:10:47,681 That was a moment of great happiness for me. 98 00:10:49,281 --> 00:10:51,601 Happiness 99 00:10:51,961 --> 00:10:55,041 is the children coming home. 100 00:10:55,241 --> 00:10:58,201 That's a mother's happiness. 101 00:10:58,361 --> 00:11:00,241 It's when my husband comes home, smiles, 102 00:11:00,481 --> 00:11:03,561 and kisses me, after 33 years of married life. 103 00:11:03,721 --> 00:11:06,561 That's a woman's happiness. 104 00:11:08,761 --> 00:11:10,281 Happiness is hearing 105 00:11:10,441 --> 00:11:13,521 my grandchildren saying: "Grandma!" 106 00:11:14,081 --> 00:11:17,481 When they say that, you feel older, 107 00:11:17,641 --> 00:11:19,881 but that's happiness, too. 108 00:11:20,041 --> 00:11:22,921 It's also meeting colleagues 109 00:11:23,081 --> 00:11:25,761 who are happy to see you. 110 00:11:25,921 --> 00:11:28,001 They think: 111 00:11:28,481 --> 00:11:31,121 "She's here, let's talk." 112 00:11:31,961 --> 00:11:33,881 That's happiness, too. 113 00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:36,801 It's getting up in the morning 114 00:11:37,561 --> 00:11:39,401 and not hurting anywhere. 115 00:11:39,561 --> 00:11:41,401 That's happiness, too. 116 00:11:41,881 --> 00:11:45,201 It's the rain which is the promise of a good harvest. 117 00:11:45,361 --> 00:11:46,601 There are many kinds of happiness, 118 00:11:46,761 --> 00:11:49,441 but at the same time, there's only one: 119 00:11:50,201 --> 00:11:52,881 you're alive, so you're happy. 120 00:11:56,041 --> 00:11:58,361 Just my experiences from being in a wheelchair 121 00:11:58,521 --> 00:12:00,361 and traveling the world in a wheelchair 122 00:12:00,521 --> 00:12:02,201 I've seen life from a different angle 123 00:12:02,361 --> 00:12:05,001 and that's taught me on a spiritual level 124 00:12:05,601 --> 00:12:07,201 to just accept and to be happy, 125 00:12:07,361 --> 00:12:09,601 whatever's coming next. 126 00:12:10,761 --> 00:12:12,841 I'm so mentally strong. 127 00:12:13,001 --> 00:12:16,481 The only reason is because of losing my legs physically. 128 00:12:16,641 --> 00:12:19,081 My eyesight's sharper, my ears are... 129 00:12:19,241 --> 00:12:20,921 I can hear much better. 130 00:12:22,721 --> 00:12:24,961 So, that's on a physical sense, but 131 00:12:25,121 --> 00:12:26,961 I feel I'm lucky, as in 132 00:12:27,121 --> 00:12:31,841 I don't analyze or question life too much. 133 00:12:32,001 --> 00:12:34,001 I can cruise through life 134 00:12:34,161 --> 00:12:37,121 and always be in the right place at the right time. 135 00:12:37,281 --> 00:12:39,161 I always have amazing things happen to me. 136 00:12:39,321 --> 00:12:41,361 I'm really lucky in that situation. 137 00:12:45,161 --> 00:12:47,321 But that comes from believing in luck 138 00:12:47,481 --> 00:12:49,681 or believing in the power of attraction 139 00:12:49,841 --> 00:12:51,521 or believing in 140 00:12:51,681 --> 00:12:54,281 attracting the goodness into one's life. 141 00:12:54,441 --> 00:12:55,961 And I think 142 00:12:56,121 --> 00:12:58,721 that can be seen as luck. 143 00:12:59,441 --> 00:13:01,241 So, if God Himself 144 00:13:01,401 --> 00:13:03,681 jumped down in front of me right now and said to me: 145 00:13:03,841 --> 00:13:05,761 "Bruno, I'll give you back your legs, 146 00:13:05,921 --> 00:13:08,561 "but I'll take away all that you've learned in the last 13 years." 147 00:13:08,721 --> 00:13:11,081 I'll tell God: "Keep your legs." 148 00:17:55,121 --> 00:17:59,121 We didn't use to die like today. 149 00:17:59,281 --> 00:18:01,561 We lived in peace. 150 00:18:02,561 --> 00:18:04,761 Our fighting didn't kill us. 151 00:18:04,921 --> 00:18:07,561 There was only one gun per village. 152 00:18:07,721 --> 00:18:11,001 What decimates us is the Kalashnikov. 153 00:18:11,161 --> 00:18:14,401 Before, we only died from sickness and disease. 154 00:18:14,561 --> 00:18:16,641 A few people died: 155 00:18:16,801 --> 00:18:18,721 a sick person, an old man, a baby. 156 00:18:18,881 --> 00:18:20,241 Only the weak. 157 00:18:20,401 --> 00:18:22,801 The victims of the Kalashnikov 158 00:18:22,961 --> 00:18:24,641 are countless. 159 00:18:24,801 --> 00:18:26,281 Our fighting is degenerating. 160 00:18:26,441 --> 00:18:28,201 3 men die from one shot. 161 00:18:28,361 --> 00:18:30,921 Yesterday, people died. 162 00:18:31,081 --> 00:18:33,681 We didn't bury them. 163 00:18:35,041 --> 00:18:38,441 Maybe animals ate them. 164 00:18:38,601 --> 00:18:40,121 That weapon is bad. 165 00:18:40,281 --> 00:18:43,081 It deprives the young generation and the country 166 00:18:43,241 --> 00:18:45,321 of peace. 167 00:18:47,601 --> 00:18:49,881 As soon as I took up arms, 168 00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:51,841 I felt fear. 169 00:18:52,001 --> 00:18:54,201 Fear is a human feeling. 170 00:18:54,361 --> 00:18:56,641 I was afraid of blood. 171 00:18:56,801 --> 00:18:58,561 When I took up arms, 172 00:18:58,721 --> 00:19:02,761 I went from being a teacher to a man of arms. 173 00:19:02,921 --> 00:19:04,361 I had no choice. 174 00:19:04,521 --> 00:19:08,241 I saw and experienced things which forced me to do it. 175 00:19:09,921 --> 00:19:13,961 Sometimes my son asks me, because it worries him: 176 00:19:14,721 --> 00:19:18,041 "Dad, why this war? Is there no end to it? 177 00:19:19,121 --> 00:19:21,761 "Why do you kill the soldier? 178 00:19:21,921 --> 00:19:24,441 "Doesn't the soldier have a family 179 00:19:24,921 --> 00:19:28,121 "waiting for him, just like us?" 180 00:19:28,281 --> 00:19:31,481 I say to him: "He's wrong and we're right." 181 00:19:31,641 --> 00:19:33,161 "Why, Dad?" 182 00:19:33,321 --> 00:19:36,321 I say: "He kills families and children. 183 00:19:36,481 --> 00:19:38,601 "He destroys mosques. 184 00:19:38,761 --> 00:19:41,121 "We defend all that." 185 00:19:41,281 --> 00:19:44,881 We always try to be clear to the children. 186 00:19:45,041 --> 00:19:47,881 We tell them that we took up arms, 187 00:19:48,041 --> 00:19:51,241 because we had to, not because we wanted to. 188 00:19:51,401 --> 00:19:54,961 I don't like having blood on my hands... 189 00:19:56,601 --> 00:20:00,281 or the idea that I killed someone. 190 00:20:00,441 --> 00:20:02,761 Nobody likes that. 191 00:20:04,561 --> 00:20:06,561 I'm not afraid of death. 192 00:20:06,721 --> 00:20:10,161 I'm not afraid if it's for Syria. 193 00:20:10,321 --> 00:20:12,801 I'm not afraid if it's for my father. 194 00:20:13,321 --> 00:20:16,441 If he wasn't dead, I would be afraid of death. 195 00:20:16,601 --> 00:20:18,201 But I'm no longer afraid. 196 00:20:18,361 --> 00:20:21,361 Even if my throat is cut or I get blown up. 197 00:20:21,521 --> 00:20:24,721 What matters is joining my father 198 00:20:24,881 --> 00:20:26,561 or going back to Syria. 199 00:20:39,561 --> 00:20:42,081 During the genocide... 200 00:20:44,681 --> 00:20:46,801 I was separated from my parents 201 00:20:47,641 --> 00:20:49,361 and I lived alone 202 00:20:50,001 --> 00:20:51,921 in the sorghum fields. 203 00:20:52,081 --> 00:20:54,681 I spent at least two weeks there. 204 00:20:55,281 --> 00:20:57,321 Then, 205 00:20:58,081 --> 00:21:00,001 someone took me. 206 00:21:00,161 --> 00:21:04,321 She asked me who I was. 207 00:21:04,881 --> 00:21:07,361 But as I was very little, 208 00:21:07,521 --> 00:21:10,641 I couldn't distinguish between Hutus and Tutsis. 209 00:21:10,801 --> 00:21:12,481 I didn't really know. 210 00:21:12,761 --> 00:21:15,321 She looked at me and started touching 211 00:21:15,481 --> 00:21:18,921 my fingers, my skin. 212 00:21:19,081 --> 00:21:21,001 She told me I was a Tutsi 213 00:21:21,161 --> 00:21:22,921 or mixed race. 214 00:21:24,761 --> 00:21:26,881 She told people to shoot me, 215 00:21:27,041 --> 00:21:28,401 to eliminate me. 216 00:21:28,561 --> 00:21:32,121 I asked why, 217 00:21:32,641 --> 00:21:34,961 what I'd done wrong. 218 00:21:35,761 --> 00:21:38,201 After that, 219 00:21:39,401 --> 00:21:42,681 there was a lot of shooting. 220 00:21:42,841 --> 00:21:45,761 I ran away. 221 00:21:46,041 --> 00:21:48,481 All along the way, 222 00:21:48,641 --> 00:21:52,241 there were corpses and blood. 223 00:21:52,401 --> 00:21:55,961 Then I sat down and asked God 224 00:21:56,361 --> 00:21:58,641 that His will be done. 225 00:22:00,841 --> 00:22:03,321 I was lucky to survive. 226 00:22:15,121 --> 00:22:16,961 I went home. 227 00:22:17,841 --> 00:22:20,281 The door was smashed in. 228 00:22:20,441 --> 00:22:22,241 In front, there was a hole 229 00:22:22,401 --> 00:22:24,201 where a shell had fallen. 230 00:22:24,361 --> 00:22:27,681 I went in and found my father lying there. 231 00:22:28,361 --> 00:22:31,041 I saw my brothers too, behind him. 232 00:22:31,201 --> 00:22:34,121 My father had opened the door to them. 233 00:22:34,281 --> 00:22:36,561 He told them 234 00:22:36,961 --> 00:22:39,441 there were no combatants. 235 00:22:39,601 --> 00:22:41,041 They told him to step forward. 236 00:22:41,201 --> 00:22:43,641 My mother and brothers were lined up. 237 00:22:43,801 --> 00:22:44,921 "Join them." 238 00:22:45,081 --> 00:22:48,761 As soon as he moved, they started shooting. 239 00:22:49,761 --> 00:22:51,761 He got a bullet in the back. 240 00:22:52,161 --> 00:22:53,841 He fell. 241 00:22:54,001 --> 00:22:56,961 They started shooting at my brothers. 242 00:22:58,001 --> 00:23:00,281 At the time of the massacre, 243 00:23:00,441 --> 00:23:03,841 in 1982, I was a young student. 244 00:23:04,001 --> 00:23:07,961 I didn't hate anyone, I felt no hatred. 245 00:23:08,121 --> 00:23:11,921 But that massacre made me question many things. 246 00:23:12,081 --> 00:23:13,321 I asked myself: 247 00:23:13,481 --> 00:23:16,521 "Who loves me? Who hates me? 248 00:23:16,681 --> 00:23:18,641 "Why did this happen?" 249 00:23:18,801 --> 00:23:20,361 I thought more about it 250 00:23:20,521 --> 00:23:22,881 and all that brought about in me 251 00:23:23,041 --> 00:23:24,921 a love of hatred, 252 00:23:25,081 --> 00:23:26,761 a love of vengeance. 253 00:23:26,921 --> 00:23:30,441 Man isn't born with those feelings. 254 00:23:30,601 --> 00:23:33,841 They grow over the course of your experiences. 255 00:23:34,001 --> 00:23:35,801 Both love and hatred. 256 00:23:37,081 --> 00:23:40,001 Would you forgive me if I kill your father or brother? 257 00:23:41,401 --> 00:23:43,761 If no law stands in my way? 258 00:23:44,481 --> 00:23:46,441 If your rights are scorned? 259 00:23:46,601 --> 00:23:48,121 Would you forgive me 260 00:23:48,281 --> 00:23:51,801 if I'd killed your brother, father or mother? 261 00:23:51,961 --> 00:23:53,721 No, certainly not. 262 00:23:54,401 --> 00:23:55,561 No way. 263 00:23:56,841 --> 00:23:58,081 I will never forgive. 264 00:23:58,241 --> 00:24:00,481 Even if my head is cut off. 265 00:24:04,121 --> 00:24:06,241 One evening, while in the reserves, 266 00:24:06,401 --> 00:24:09,521 my unit had to stop a suicide attack 267 00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:12,441 by capturing a terrorist 268 00:24:12,601 --> 00:24:15,281 in a village near Nablus. 269 00:24:15,761 --> 00:24:17,641 I deployed our forces. 270 00:24:17,801 --> 00:24:20,521 To flush him out, we shot at the walls 271 00:24:20,681 --> 00:24:23,321 as a demonstration of strength. 272 00:24:24,401 --> 00:24:26,201 A woman came out of the house, 273 00:24:26,361 --> 00:24:27,921 carrying a girl 274 00:24:28,081 --> 00:24:30,441 and holding another by the hand. 275 00:24:30,601 --> 00:24:32,121 It was 3 AM. 276 00:24:32,281 --> 00:24:35,921 The girl panicked and ran toward us. 277 00:24:36,081 --> 00:24:38,601 I was afraid she'd blow herself up. 278 00:24:38,761 --> 00:24:41,641 I yelled at her in Arabic to stop. She kept coming. 279 00:24:41,801 --> 00:24:44,321 I fired above her head. 280 00:24:44,481 --> 00:24:45,961 She stopped. 281 00:24:46,361 --> 00:24:49,041 At that moment, time stood still. 282 00:24:49,921 --> 00:24:52,801 It was the shortest and the longest moment 283 00:24:52,961 --> 00:24:53,881 of my life. 284 00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:58,401 The girl remained alive. 285 00:24:59,441 --> 00:25:01,681 And so did I. 286 00:25:01,841 --> 00:25:03,801 But at the same time, 287 00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:05,921 something died 288 00:25:06,081 --> 00:25:07,481 in us both. 289 00:25:08,081 --> 00:25:09,881 When a child is shot at, 290 00:25:10,041 --> 00:25:11,681 it kills something inside. 291 00:25:11,841 --> 00:25:13,601 I don't know what. 292 00:25:13,761 --> 00:25:16,041 When an adult shoots at a child, 293 00:25:16,761 --> 00:25:18,761 it kills something inside. 294 00:25:18,921 --> 00:25:20,561 Something dies 295 00:25:20,721 --> 00:25:24,561 and something else has to come to life. 296 00:25:24,721 --> 00:25:27,081 I was ashamed of shooting at her. 297 00:25:27,241 --> 00:25:28,841 A painful shame. 298 00:25:29,001 --> 00:25:30,841 And above all, this sensation 299 00:25:31,001 --> 00:25:33,001 of my finger 300 00:25:33,161 --> 00:25:35,241 pressing the trigger 301 00:25:35,401 --> 00:25:37,441 and shooting at the girl. 302 00:25:38,601 --> 00:25:43,161 From this finger pressing the trigger 303 00:25:43,321 --> 00:25:45,601 something had to come to life. 304 00:25:48,361 --> 00:25:51,961 One of the most impactful things that will occur, 305 00:25:52,121 --> 00:25:54,881 after being in combat, 306 00:25:55,041 --> 00:25:57,081 is the feeling 307 00:25:57,241 --> 00:25:59,521 of killing another human being. 308 00:25:59,681 --> 00:26:02,601 Once you've experienced it, 309 00:26:02,761 --> 00:26:05,681 you'll see that it's not like anything else 310 00:26:05,841 --> 00:26:08,561 that you've experienced before. 311 00:26:09,161 --> 00:26:11,041 And unfortunately, 312 00:26:11,561 --> 00:26:13,201 that feeling, 313 00:26:14,201 --> 00:26:17,161 your body will want to experience again. 314 00:26:17,321 --> 00:26:19,481 It's really difficult 315 00:26:19,641 --> 00:26:23,081 to try to explain to somebody 316 00:26:24,081 --> 00:26:26,601 what that feeling's like. 317 00:26:26,761 --> 00:26:30,641 Right now, I still feel like experiencing 318 00:26:30,801 --> 00:26:32,361 that again, 319 00:26:32,521 --> 00:26:34,441 and it's probably why I keep 320 00:26:34,601 --> 00:26:37,521 a loaded weapon in my house. 321 00:26:38,921 --> 00:26:41,321 I yearn or desire for someone 322 00:26:41,481 --> 00:26:43,761 to try to hurt me 323 00:26:43,921 --> 00:26:45,041 or to break in 324 00:26:45,201 --> 00:26:47,121 or to give me an excuse 325 00:26:47,281 --> 00:26:50,561 to use that violence against somebody else again. 326 00:28:40,561 --> 00:28:43,481 On the 16th of January 2007, 327 00:28:44,241 --> 00:28:46,761 an Israeli border policeman shot and killed 328 00:28:46,921 --> 00:28:49,201 my 10-year-old daughter, Abir, 329 00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:52,841 in front of her school in Anath where I live. 330 00:28:53,001 --> 00:28:55,561 She was with her sister and two friends. 331 00:28:55,721 --> 00:28:57,801 9.30 in the morning. 332 00:28:57,961 --> 00:29:00,161 In her head in the back 333 00:29:00,321 --> 00:29:03,081 from a distance of 15 to 20 meters 334 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:05,201 by a rubber bullet. 335 00:29:07,641 --> 00:29:09,921 Abir wasn't a fighter. 336 00:29:10,081 --> 00:29:11,641 She was just 337 00:29:12,321 --> 00:29:13,681 a child. 338 00:29:13,841 --> 00:29:16,161 She didn't know anything about the conflict 339 00:29:16,321 --> 00:29:18,881 and she was not part of this conflict. 340 00:29:19,161 --> 00:29:21,081 Unfortunately, she lost her life 341 00:29:21,241 --> 00:29:23,241 because she was a Palestinian. 342 00:29:24,281 --> 00:29:26,521 I'm an Israeli who lost his daughter 343 00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:28,081 to a suicide bombing 344 00:29:28,241 --> 00:29:31,441 on the 4th of September 1997. 345 00:29:32,601 --> 00:29:35,201 And I am a product of... 346 00:29:37,281 --> 00:29:38,801 of an education system. 347 00:29:38,961 --> 00:29:42,961 These are two societies at war. 348 00:29:45,041 --> 00:29:48,881 They socialize the young generation 349 00:29:49,041 --> 00:29:53,761 to make them able to sacrifice themselves when the time comes. 350 00:29:53,921 --> 00:29:56,881 This is true to Palestinian society 351 00:29:57,041 --> 00:30:00,241 and this is also true to Israeli society. 352 00:30:01,761 --> 00:30:03,601 Because we are human beings. 353 00:30:03,761 --> 00:30:05,681 Sometimes you think: 354 00:30:05,841 --> 00:30:08,001 "If I kill the killer 355 00:30:08,161 --> 00:30:11,481 "or anyone from the other side, from the Israelis, 356 00:30:11,641 --> 00:30:13,401 "or maybe ten, 357 00:30:13,561 --> 00:30:17,001 "this will give me back my daughter." 358 00:30:17,801 --> 00:30:19,161 No. 359 00:30:19,681 --> 00:30:21,281 I'll cause another pain 360 00:30:21,441 --> 00:30:24,281 and another victim to the others. 361 00:30:25,041 --> 00:30:27,201 I decided to break this circle of violence 362 00:30:27,361 --> 00:30:29,681 and blood and revenge 363 00:30:29,841 --> 00:30:33,041 by stopping killing and supporting revenge, 364 00:30:33,201 --> 00:30:34,841 by myself. 365 00:30:36,281 --> 00:30:38,241 My definition of "sides" 366 00:30:38,401 --> 00:30:41,041 has changed dramatically. 367 00:30:41,201 --> 00:30:43,881 Today, on my side are 368 00:30:44,041 --> 00:30:47,561 all those who want peace and are willing to pay the price of peace. 369 00:30:47,721 --> 00:30:49,161 On the other side 370 00:30:49,321 --> 00:30:51,121 are those who do not want peace 371 00:30:51,281 --> 00:30:54,201 and are not willing to pay the price of peace. 372 00:30:55,641 --> 00:30:57,161 Many people told me: 373 00:30:57,321 --> 00:31:00,321 "It's not your right to forgive in her name." 374 00:31:01,761 --> 00:31:04,201 And the answer: it's also not my right 375 00:31:04,361 --> 00:31:06,921 to seek revenge in her name. 376 00:31:10,881 --> 00:31:14,201 I hope she's satisfied. 377 00:31:15,121 --> 00:31:17,521 I hope she rests in peace. 378 00:31:20,881 --> 00:31:22,281 Here's what happened: 379 00:31:22,441 --> 00:31:23,841 a German officer 380 00:31:24,001 --> 00:31:25,161 in an SS uniform 381 00:31:25,321 --> 00:31:27,201 entered the ghetto 382 00:31:27,361 --> 00:31:29,401 one rainy night. 383 00:31:29,561 --> 00:31:32,321 My mother told him: "Take my daughter." 384 00:31:32,481 --> 00:31:35,921 She lifted the wire fence 385 00:31:36,081 --> 00:31:38,721 and handed him her baby, me, 386 00:31:38,881 --> 00:31:41,801 a Jewish girl 2 and a half years old. 387 00:31:41,961 --> 00:31:44,081 And with a heavy heart, 388 00:31:44,241 --> 00:31:46,401 she put me in the hands 389 00:31:46,561 --> 00:31:48,161 of a wonderful man 390 00:31:48,321 --> 00:31:50,601 in an SS uniform. 391 00:31:50,761 --> 00:31:53,321 I now know that this man, 392 00:31:53,481 --> 00:31:54,601 Alois Pleva, 393 00:31:54,761 --> 00:31:56,401 served in the German army 394 00:31:56,561 --> 00:31:59,601 and lived near the German border. 395 00:31:59,761 --> 00:32:03,281 This man put me in his coat. 396 00:32:03,441 --> 00:32:06,201 He hid me inside his coat 397 00:32:06,361 --> 00:32:08,041 and took me 398 00:32:08,201 --> 00:32:11,841 to the border between Germany and Poland 399 00:32:12,001 --> 00:32:13,561 to his parents. 400 00:32:13,721 --> 00:32:17,241 They passed me off as his daughter. 401 00:32:17,401 --> 00:32:20,721 They raised me in the purest Catholic tradition 402 00:32:20,881 --> 00:32:23,121 until the end of the war. 403 00:32:23,281 --> 00:32:25,761 What a gesture! 404 00:32:25,921 --> 00:32:28,001 What magic, 405 00:32:28,161 --> 00:32:29,721 this outstretched hand! 406 00:32:29,881 --> 00:32:33,201 Like sparks of light 407 00:32:33,361 --> 00:32:36,361 in what we call human folly. 408 00:32:37,881 --> 00:32:41,241 Sometimes a question comes to mind. 409 00:32:41,401 --> 00:32:43,601 If I had been 410 00:32:43,761 --> 00:32:46,161 in a situation like that, 411 00:32:46,801 --> 00:32:49,721 would I have acted in the same way 412 00:32:49,881 --> 00:32:52,801 as that German officer? 413 00:32:53,601 --> 00:32:55,241 How can I answer 414 00:32:55,401 --> 00:32:56,801 such a question? 415 00:32:56,961 --> 00:32:59,321 I don't think I would have had 416 00:32:59,481 --> 00:33:01,761 the moral strength to do it, 417 00:33:01,921 --> 00:33:03,361 in all honesty. 418 00:33:03,521 --> 00:33:04,681 Maybe. 419 00:33:04,841 --> 00:33:06,561 Did he know he had the strength? 420 00:33:06,721 --> 00:33:08,441 How can you know? 421 00:33:08,601 --> 00:33:09,921 How can you recognize 422 00:33:10,081 --> 00:33:11,721 the moment of truth 423 00:33:11,881 --> 00:33:13,721 when you can sacrifice yourself, 424 00:33:13,881 --> 00:33:16,681 sacrifice the only life you have 425 00:33:16,841 --> 00:33:18,561 for someone else? 426 00:33:19,001 --> 00:33:20,841 There's no answer to that question. 427 00:33:21,001 --> 00:33:22,161 Or a question 428 00:33:22,321 --> 00:33:24,241 others can answer. 429 00:33:24,401 --> 00:33:26,441 But this question must be asked. 430 00:35:48,241 --> 00:35:51,601 Love is the beginning and the end. 431 00:35:53,361 --> 00:35:56,321 Love is where we come from, where we're going 432 00:35:56,481 --> 00:35:59,241 and what we live between the two. 433 00:36:00,481 --> 00:36:02,201 Love is everything. 434 00:36:03,761 --> 00:36:05,081 Love. 435 00:36:05,521 --> 00:36:09,281 The word love is full of meaning for me. 436 00:36:10,161 --> 00:36:11,481 When you talk about love, 437 00:36:11,641 --> 00:36:13,281 it encompasses everything. 438 00:36:13,801 --> 00:36:16,121 Love encompasses everything, doesn't it? 439 00:36:16,281 --> 00:36:19,081 Where there's no love, you feel empty 440 00:36:19,961 --> 00:36:22,161 or rather, I feel empty. 441 00:36:24,841 --> 00:36:26,201 Love... 442 00:36:27,281 --> 00:36:29,521 Love is what fills the soul. 443 00:36:30,161 --> 00:36:32,641 You have to take love one day at a time. 444 00:36:32,801 --> 00:36:34,841 You live it every day. 445 00:36:36,201 --> 00:36:39,521 Love is this feeling that you can 446 00:36:40,361 --> 00:36:42,161 give 447 00:36:42,321 --> 00:36:44,361 and that the other person gives you. 448 00:36:44,521 --> 00:36:47,481 My wife has a strong character. 449 00:36:47,841 --> 00:36:51,841 She's the one who guides the family. 450 00:36:54,921 --> 00:36:56,601 I love her a lot. 451 00:36:57,401 --> 00:36:59,161 She's magnificent. 452 00:36:59,321 --> 00:37:01,161 If you don't make love, 453 00:37:01,321 --> 00:37:03,601 your love will be a failure. 454 00:37:03,761 --> 00:37:05,561 Do you hear? Why? 455 00:37:05,721 --> 00:37:07,721 Through love comes sex. 456 00:37:07,881 --> 00:37:09,921 Without sex, you'll go wrong. 457 00:37:10,081 --> 00:37:12,201 Your wife will ask herself: 458 00:37:12,361 --> 00:37:14,921 "He gives me love, but not sex. 459 00:37:15,081 --> 00:37:18,081 "Love, food, clothing, everything, 460 00:37:18,241 --> 00:37:19,241 "but not sex. 461 00:37:19,401 --> 00:37:21,161 "What can I do with this man?" 462 00:37:21,321 --> 00:37:24,761 What will happen to our home? The home will collapse, 463 00:37:24,921 --> 00:37:27,401 because after love must come sex. 464 00:37:27,561 --> 00:37:30,321 And that's ultimately why love exists. 465 00:37:30,481 --> 00:37:33,281 Otherwise, there's nothing. 466 00:37:44,401 --> 00:37:47,321 Oh, wow! What a question to ask me... 467 00:37:47,481 --> 00:37:49,321 If I've had lovers? 468 00:37:49,481 --> 00:37:51,961 To be honest, I've never had any. 469 00:37:56,241 --> 00:37:57,481 I haven't... 470 00:38:00,161 --> 00:38:01,841 I went to parties, 471 00:38:02,001 --> 00:38:04,441 but I didn't go to dances, because, 472 00:38:04,601 --> 00:38:08,081 to tell you the truth, I never learned to dance. 473 00:38:09,601 --> 00:38:12,241 I tried, but it didn't work. 474 00:38:16,521 --> 00:38:18,161 So, I gave up. 475 00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:25,161 When you marry someone, 476 00:38:25,321 --> 00:38:27,321 you marry them as they are. 477 00:38:27,481 --> 00:38:30,041 At a given moment, you love them the way they are. 478 00:38:30,201 --> 00:38:31,801 I had an accident. 479 00:38:31,961 --> 00:38:34,441 I lost my arms and legs. 480 00:38:34,601 --> 00:38:37,601 She didn't marry a guy with no arms or legs. 481 00:38:37,761 --> 00:38:39,681 But she stood it 482 00:38:39,841 --> 00:38:42,281 for a number of years. 483 00:38:42,441 --> 00:38:44,401 We ended up separating, 484 00:38:44,561 --> 00:38:46,161 we got a divorce. 485 00:38:46,321 --> 00:38:48,801 I had to start a new life. 486 00:38:48,961 --> 00:38:51,601 It took me 3 years to get over the break-up. 487 00:38:51,761 --> 00:38:53,721 After 3 years, I said to myself: 488 00:38:53,881 --> 00:38:55,681 "You can't stay on your own!" 489 00:38:55,841 --> 00:38:58,481 So, I signed up on the internet 490 00:38:58,641 --> 00:39:00,321 to a dating site. 491 00:39:00,481 --> 00:39:02,881 At first, I just put a head shot. 492 00:39:03,041 --> 00:39:04,841 The rest was a surprise. 493 00:39:05,001 --> 00:39:07,121 I didn't show I had no arms or legs. 494 00:39:07,281 --> 00:39:09,001 I had fun on the net, 495 00:39:09,161 --> 00:39:11,481 but when I told people about my handicap, 496 00:39:11,641 --> 00:39:13,081 nobody answered me. 497 00:39:13,241 --> 00:39:14,601 So, I announced my handicap 498 00:39:14,761 --> 00:39:16,801 and one day, I met Suzanna. 499 00:39:16,961 --> 00:39:19,601 There we are, love is possible. 500 00:39:19,761 --> 00:39:21,641 We've been together for 8 years. 501 00:39:21,801 --> 00:39:24,041 Suzanna has 3 girls, I have 2 boys. 502 00:39:24,201 --> 00:39:25,401 We have a one-eyed dog, 503 00:39:25,561 --> 00:39:27,481 4 cats, a guinea-pig. 504 00:39:27,641 --> 00:39:30,121 It's one big reconstituted family. 505 00:39:30,281 --> 00:39:31,521 Anything's possible. 506 00:39:31,761 --> 00:39:32,961 I found love again. 507 00:39:33,121 --> 00:39:34,841 And we really love each other. 508 00:39:38,201 --> 00:39:41,281 I've been married to my husband for 18 years now. 509 00:39:41,801 --> 00:39:44,841 He has never said, "I love you," 510 00:39:45,001 --> 00:39:46,441 but I feel he does. 511 00:39:46,601 --> 00:39:49,761 Sometimes, eyes speak more than mouths. 512 00:39:50,201 --> 00:39:52,121 When I was younger, I wondered 513 00:39:52,281 --> 00:39:54,681 how people could live together for so long, 514 00:39:54,841 --> 00:39:56,921 without falling out of love. 515 00:39:57,161 --> 00:39:59,441 I also couldn't imagine how people 516 00:39:59,601 --> 00:40:01,921 could sleep in the same bed for 20 years. 517 00:40:02,081 --> 00:40:05,241 I thought it would be boring. But it's not! 518 00:40:05,481 --> 00:40:07,041 Every day, 519 00:40:07,201 --> 00:40:08,401 I think, 520 00:40:08,561 --> 00:40:10,321 "Yesterday, my love was weaker. 521 00:40:10,481 --> 00:40:12,281 "Today, it's true love." 522 00:40:12,801 --> 00:40:15,041 And then, a year goes by. 523 00:40:15,201 --> 00:40:18,081 This love becomes even stronger. 524 00:40:19,201 --> 00:40:20,681 When I go to bed at night, 525 00:40:20,841 --> 00:40:22,601 I look at him and think, 526 00:40:23,641 --> 00:40:25,241 if he died, 527 00:40:25,401 --> 00:40:28,361 I could never replace him. 528 00:40:34,921 --> 00:40:36,481 After being married for... 529 00:40:36,641 --> 00:40:39,001 50 years, 49... 530 00:40:39,161 --> 00:40:40,961 51 years. 531 00:40:42,161 --> 00:40:44,961 My wife took seriously ill 532 00:40:46,441 --> 00:40:48,441 just before we celebrated 533 00:40:48,601 --> 00:40:50,961 our 50th wedding anniversary. 534 00:40:51,441 --> 00:40:54,321 And she suffered terribly 535 00:40:54,481 --> 00:40:56,281 for about 2 years 536 00:40:56,841 --> 00:40:58,441 as an invalid. 537 00:40:59,201 --> 00:41:01,601 For the last 2 years of her life, 538 00:41:01,761 --> 00:41:03,801 I was her nurse, 539 00:41:04,241 --> 00:41:06,441 I was her doctor, I was her friend, 540 00:41:06,601 --> 00:41:08,881 I was her lover, I was her husband. 541 00:41:09,841 --> 00:41:12,441 Everybody wanted me to get 542 00:41:12,601 --> 00:41:15,081 a full-time nurse, day and night, 543 00:41:15,881 --> 00:41:18,401 and she begged me not to. 544 00:41:18,561 --> 00:41:20,801 She only wanted me to look after her. 545 00:41:20,961 --> 00:41:23,561 And I loved doing it for her. 546 00:41:23,721 --> 00:41:26,561 And I did it by myself. 547 00:41:26,721 --> 00:41:28,201 I carried her to the car, 548 00:41:28,361 --> 00:41:30,521 I carried her oxygen tank, 549 00:41:30,681 --> 00:41:31,801 her wheelchair. 550 00:41:31,961 --> 00:41:34,441 I packed it in the car, I pushed her round, 551 00:41:34,601 --> 00:41:36,241 I put it back, I took her home, 552 00:41:36,401 --> 00:41:38,201 I bathed her, I put her to bed. 553 00:41:38,361 --> 00:41:39,601 And I loved it 554 00:41:39,761 --> 00:41:41,961 that I was able to do it for her 555 00:41:42,121 --> 00:41:43,521 without anyone else. 556 00:41:43,681 --> 00:41:45,361 And she appreciated it. 557 00:41:45,521 --> 00:41:47,241 That's love. 558 00:41:50,681 --> 00:41:54,441 The magic moment that I had with my grandfather 559 00:41:54,601 --> 00:41:57,401 was right after my grandmother died. 560 00:41:57,561 --> 00:41:58,801 I went to go see him. 561 00:41:58,961 --> 00:42:01,241 I knew that he was hurting, 562 00:42:01,401 --> 00:42:05,401 but I wasn't sure what kind of state he would be in. 563 00:42:05,561 --> 00:42:07,521 And she was his partner 65 years 564 00:42:07,681 --> 00:42:09,561 as well as his driver. 565 00:42:09,721 --> 00:42:11,681 I said: "Grandpa... 566 00:42:12,361 --> 00:42:14,041 "How are you doing?" 567 00:42:14,201 --> 00:42:16,721 And he said: "Did you know that for 4 dollars, 568 00:42:16,881 --> 00:42:19,241 "I can get a shuttle anywhere in the city?" 569 00:42:19,401 --> 00:42:21,241 I said: "Wow, that's great, Grandpa." 570 00:42:21,401 --> 00:42:24,201 He said: "Well, I went to the grocery store, 571 00:42:24,361 --> 00:42:27,001 "I went to the woman behind the counter and said: 572 00:42:27,161 --> 00:42:29,281 "I have this list of things. Could you help me find them? 573 00:42:29,441 --> 00:42:32,161 "My wife has recently changed her residence to heaven." 574 00:42:33,041 --> 00:42:34,001 And I said: 575 00:42:34,161 --> 00:42:37,601 "Grandpa, man, you always help me see the glass as half full." 576 00:42:37,761 --> 00:42:38,881 And he leaned back, 577 00:42:39,041 --> 00:42:41,361 looked me in the eyes, and he said: 578 00:42:41,761 --> 00:42:43,761 "It's a beautiful glass." 579 00:46:12,921 --> 00:46:16,401 When I was 12, I left 580 00:46:16,561 --> 00:46:18,361 my grandparents' house 581 00:46:18,521 --> 00:46:20,321 because of abuse. 582 00:46:20,481 --> 00:46:23,161 I went to live in the street. 583 00:46:23,601 --> 00:46:26,681 It was better for me to keep going 584 00:46:26,841 --> 00:46:31,321 and try to become independent. 585 00:46:32,321 --> 00:46:35,201 What I can never forgive 586 00:46:35,361 --> 00:46:37,881 concerns my mother. 587 00:46:40,401 --> 00:46:43,881 Selling me wasn't a good idea. 588 00:46:45,041 --> 00:46:48,121 Because we're her children 589 00:46:48,921 --> 00:46:51,521 and she suffered, giving birth to us. 590 00:46:52,241 --> 00:46:55,601 So, that's what I'll never forgive. 591 00:47:00,521 --> 00:47:03,041 The hardest moment 592 00:47:03,201 --> 00:47:04,961 in my whole life 593 00:47:06,881 --> 00:47:09,161 was my father's death. 594 00:47:09,321 --> 00:47:10,801 Because... 595 00:47:16,161 --> 00:47:18,121 I don't want to cry. 596 00:47:24,081 --> 00:47:26,161 He supported me. 597 00:47:26,321 --> 00:47:28,001 He would... 598 00:47:29,481 --> 00:47:32,361 He would encourage me and my brothers. 599 00:47:39,641 --> 00:47:43,121 I'm not afraid of anything anymore, 600 00:47:43,601 --> 00:47:47,121 because I've been through many horrible things, 601 00:47:47,281 --> 00:47:49,361 and I've grown used to it. 602 00:47:50,961 --> 00:47:54,001 And I'm hardly scared of anything. 603 00:47:54,161 --> 00:47:56,361 When they say to me: 604 00:47:56,521 --> 00:47:59,321 "We're going to hit you. We'll kill you." 605 00:47:59,481 --> 00:48:02,121 I say to them: "No, I'm not scared, 606 00:48:02,521 --> 00:48:04,721 "and if you do, 607 00:48:04,881 --> 00:48:07,921 I won't be scared." 608 00:48:11,921 --> 00:48:16,761 My father used to tell me 609 00:48:17,521 --> 00:48:20,281 that it didn't matter if you fell. 610 00:48:20,441 --> 00:48:22,801 You just had to get up again. 611 00:48:22,961 --> 00:48:25,521 If I fell, I had to get up again. 612 00:48:25,681 --> 00:48:29,281 Always get up again. 613 00:48:29,441 --> 00:48:32,281 That helps me a lot. 614 00:48:32,441 --> 00:48:35,281 If I lived in the past, 615 00:48:35,441 --> 00:48:37,641 I'd spend my time crying, 616 00:48:37,801 --> 00:48:40,601 I'd be bitter, 617 00:48:42,401 --> 00:48:45,201 I wouldn't be friendly. 618 00:48:47,681 --> 00:48:49,801 You have to know 619 00:48:49,961 --> 00:48:53,481 how to play and smile, 620 00:48:54,321 --> 00:48:57,481 because living in the past is no use. 621 00:48:57,641 --> 00:49:00,081 You have to live in the present. 622 00:49:05,841 --> 00:49:07,681 Family, to me, 623 00:49:08,601 --> 00:49:11,041 is a communion. 624 00:49:11,201 --> 00:49:12,761 It's coming home 625 00:49:12,921 --> 00:49:14,601 and being greeted: 626 00:49:14,761 --> 00:49:16,721 "It's good to have you home!" 627 00:49:16,881 --> 00:49:18,121 Helping my brothers 628 00:49:18,281 --> 00:49:20,601 to do what I can already do, 629 00:49:20,761 --> 00:49:23,121 because I'm one of the elders. 630 00:49:23,281 --> 00:49:24,721 Teaching them. 631 00:49:25,321 --> 00:49:28,001 Seeing my father come home from work, satisfied, 632 00:49:28,161 --> 00:49:29,481 sitting in his armchair, 633 00:49:29,641 --> 00:49:31,721 and me making him a coffee. 634 00:49:32,161 --> 00:49:33,881 That makes me feel good. 635 00:49:34,041 --> 00:49:36,281 It fills you up inside. 636 00:49:36,441 --> 00:49:38,041 If someone's missing, 637 00:49:38,201 --> 00:49:41,241 it feels like a hole in your heart. 638 00:49:41,401 --> 00:49:43,401 "What the hell has happened? 639 00:49:43,561 --> 00:49:44,761 "Where is he?" 640 00:49:46,241 --> 00:49:47,681 Family is something 641 00:49:47,841 --> 00:49:49,641 happy, remarkable. 642 00:49:51,161 --> 00:49:52,601 It's something else. 643 00:49:53,161 --> 00:49:54,561 It fills you up. 644 00:49:58,601 --> 00:50:00,081 When I was young, 645 00:50:00,241 --> 00:50:02,961 I didn't think I was going to stay 646 00:50:03,681 --> 00:50:05,401 in the religious community 647 00:50:05,561 --> 00:50:07,441 that I had joined. 648 00:50:07,601 --> 00:50:10,161 And I suppose I didn't understand 649 00:50:10,321 --> 00:50:12,041 what I was actually doing 650 00:50:12,201 --> 00:50:14,521 and that I was maybe making a decision 651 00:50:14,681 --> 00:50:16,801 which meant that I wouldn't have children 652 00:50:16,961 --> 00:50:18,481 and I wouldn't have a family 653 00:50:18,641 --> 00:50:20,081 as other people had. 654 00:50:20,241 --> 00:50:23,401 I don't really think I understood that, 655 00:50:23,561 --> 00:50:25,281 but later in life, 656 00:50:26,161 --> 00:50:28,761 I had a sister who died 657 00:50:30,361 --> 00:50:31,801 of cancer. 658 00:50:31,961 --> 00:50:34,361 And when I saw her family, 659 00:50:34,521 --> 00:50:36,561 I realized 660 00:50:37,161 --> 00:50:40,641 that when I died, there wouldn't be anybody... 661 00:50:42,401 --> 00:50:44,961 to mourn me the same way. 662 00:51:01,681 --> 00:51:04,641 As time goes on, then you recognize 663 00:51:05,121 --> 00:51:08,561 that you are a parent to other people 664 00:51:08,721 --> 00:51:10,761 who you work with 665 00:51:10,921 --> 00:51:12,321 or who are friends 666 00:51:12,481 --> 00:51:15,081 or who are related to you in some way. 667 00:51:15,241 --> 00:51:18,721 So, even though you haven't your own family, 668 00:51:18,881 --> 00:51:21,081 you have family. 669 00:51:21,801 --> 00:51:24,801 So, I think that's important to me. 670 00:51:27,881 --> 00:51:31,241 My whole life, I wanted to have a son. 671 00:51:31,401 --> 00:51:33,961 I already had daughters. I wanted a son 672 00:51:34,121 --> 00:51:37,761 to support me, be my right-hand man. 673 00:51:37,921 --> 00:51:41,521 My son brings me a lot, 674 00:51:41,681 --> 00:51:44,681 just in the way he looks at me. 675 00:51:44,841 --> 00:51:46,841 When we're doing odd jobs... 676 00:51:48,641 --> 00:51:51,881 I try to explain things to him. 677 00:51:52,041 --> 00:51:53,841 I often say to him: 678 00:51:54,681 --> 00:51:56,561 it is said... 679 00:51:58,521 --> 00:52:00,841 that when God... 680 00:52:06,241 --> 00:52:07,761 gave 681 00:52:07,921 --> 00:52:10,561 this child to that family, 682 00:52:10,721 --> 00:52:13,681 the angels asked: "Lord, 683 00:52:13,841 --> 00:52:17,681 "why do You give a handicapped child to that family? 684 00:52:17,841 --> 00:52:21,841 "They live well. They're happy. 685 00:52:22,001 --> 00:52:24,681 "Why do You impose such a burden on them?" 686 00:52:24,841 --> 00:52:26,761 God replied: 687 00:52:26,921 --> 00:52:28,721 "I chose them 688 00:52:30,721 --> 00:52:33,561 "so that they may teach the child that I exist, 689 00:52:33,721 --> 00:52:35,281 "that I am omnipresent, 690 00:52:35,441 --> 00:52:37,841 "in the leaves and in the wind." 691 00:52:40,401 --> 00:52:42,401 That's what I tell my son. 692 00:52:43,081 --> 00:52:44,641 I say to him... 693 00:52:52,041 --> 00:52:54,001 I tell him all the time... 694 00:52:54,161 --> 00:52:57,241 I say to him: "Look, Alyosha. 695 00:52:58,041 --> 00:53:00,281 "That's a leaf. 696 00:53:05,361 --> 00:53:07,401 "And those are flowers. 697 00:53:09,801 --> 00:53:11,521 "All that makes up 698 00:53:12,481 --> 00:53:14,361 "the happiness of life." 699 00:53:15,201 --> 00:53:18,521 When I'm with Alyocha in the evening, 700 00:53:18,681 --> 00:53:20,041 I say to him: 701 00:53:21,481 --> 00:53:23,921 "Look, son, 702 00:53:24,801 --> 00:53:27,721 those are stars!" 703 00:53:28,321 --> 00:53:29,801 And he 704 00:53:30,801 --> 00:53:32,441 sees them 705 00:53:33,521 --> 00:53:35,121 and he looks at me 706 00:53:35,881 --> 00:53:39,681 with adult eyes. 707 00:53:39,841 --> 00:53:41,721 I get the impression 708 00:53:42,241 --> 00:53:44,961 that he has a spirit 709 00:53:46,881 --> 00:53:49,241 that's much stronger than mine. 710 00:53:49,401 --> 00:53:51,401 It's my son who guides me. 711 00:53:51,561 --> 00:53:55,161 He guides the whole family. 712 00:53:55,321 --> 00:53:56,921 That's why... 713 00:53:58,961 --> 00:54:01,481 now I understand 714 00:54:01,641 --> 00:54:03,041 what love is 715 00:54:04,201 --> 00:54:06,641 and the meaning of love. 716 00:54:06,801 --> 00:54:08,681 Because to live together, 717 00:54:08,841 --> 00:54:11,641 you must love yourself, 718 00:54:11,801 --> 00:54:13,361 love your wife, 719 00:54:13,561 --> 00:54:15,441 your children, 720 00:54:16,321 --> 00:54:18,201 big and small. 721 00:54:19,601 --> 00:54:22,801 You must love your family, your parents. 722 00:54:22,961 --> 00:54:25,041 My parents are still alive. 723 00:54:26,681 --> 00:54:28,361 You must love 724 00:54:29,041 --> 00:54:30,841 all human beings 725 00:54:31,001 --> 00:54:33,001 for what they are deep down 726 00:54:34,281 --> 00:54:36,161 for only the love of people 727 00:54:38,001 --> 00:54:41,081 can save the world. 728 00:59:13,481 --> 00:59:15,801 No, I never thought about it. 729 00:59:15,961 --> 00:59:18,721 I wouldn't have liked to be a man. 730 00:59:18,881 --> 00:59:21,961 Because men have an easy life. 731 00:59:22,561 --> 00:59:23,881 Too easy. 732 00:59:25,241 --> 00:59:29,041 And easy lives are boring. 733 00:59:29,601 --> 00:59:32,761 It's easy professionally, 734 00:59:32,921 --> 00:59:34,801 maybe even easier to attain 735 00:59:34,961 --> 00:59:37,601 their sentimental prey. 736 00:59:37,761 --> 00:59:40,201 For women, everything is more difficult. 737 00:59:40,361 --> 00:59:43,441 But there is also the appeal 738 00:59:43,601 --> 00:59:46,481 of attaining your goals despite the difficulties. 739 00:59:47,801 --> 00:59:51,201 Without question, I prefer 740 00:59:51,361 --> 00:59:53,001 being a woman. 741 00:59:54,481 --> 00:59:58,081 I feel powerless when, say, 742 00:59:58,761 --> 01:00:01,961 a very small woman enters the store, 743 01:00:02,121 --> 01:00:04,561 sees something high up and says to me: 744 01:00:04,721 --> 01:00:06,641 "If only a man could get that..." 745 01:00:06,801 --> 01:00:10,001 You don't have to be a man. Jump up and grab it. 746 01:00:10,161 --> 01:00:12,601 You have two hands. Why a man? 747 01:00:12,761 --> 01:00:14,001 Whatever next? 748 01:00:14,161 --> 01:00:16,121 It makes me so angry. 749 01:00:17,521 --> 01:00:19,921 I really don't like it when women... 750 01:00:20,081 --> 01:00:24,081 I hate it when women are discriminated against. 751 01:00:25,921 --> 01:00:28,121 Today, I feel free. 752 01:00:28,721 --> 01:00:30,041 Because... 753 01:00:30,961 --> 01:00:34,401 I can do lots of things 754 01:00:34,801 --> 01:00:36,921 without rushing. 755 01:00:37,561 --> 01:00:38,801 What's more, 756 01:00:38,961 --> 01:00:40,721 I'm divorced. 757 01:00:44,321 --> 01:00:45,681 Sorry. 758 01:00:46,601 --> 01:00:48,121 Excuse me. 759 01:00:53,761 --> 01:00:56,121 I shouldn't say that, should I? 760 01:00:56,281 --> 01:00:57,401 Sorry. 761 01:00:57,561 --> 01:00:59,521 Do you want to do it again? 762 01:01:01,121 --> 01:01:02,441 Is that OK? 763 01:01:03,801 --> 01:01:06,321 I know I shouldn't laugh about it, 764 01:01:06,481 --> 01:01:09,521 but I feel good, I feel free. 765 01:01:12,001 --> 01:01:14,041 My husband has 2 wives. 766 01:01:14,641 --> 01:01:17,081 He's polygamous, he has 2 wives. 767 01:01:18,241 --> 01:01:20,281 Here, in Senegal, 768 01:01:20,441 --> 01:01:22,161 with polygamy, 769 01:01:22,321 --> 01:01:24,761 some people have 4 wives. 770 01:01:24,921 --> 01:01:28,321 Others have 3, or 2. 771 01:01:28,481 --> 01:01:31,561 But some people only have 1 wife. 772 01:01:31,961 --> 01:01:33,201 It's their choice. 773 01:01:33,361 --> 01:01:37,521 Some even have 6, 7, 8, 9... as many as 10! 774 01:01:37,681 --> 01:01:39,961 But my husband has 2 wives. 775 01:01:40,401 --> 01:01:41,561 2 wives. 776 01:01:41,721 --> 01:01:44,121 I'm the 1st, the other is the 2nd. 777 01:01:44,281 --> 01:01:46,361 We live in peace. 778 01:01:46,521 --> 01:01:48,601 She's my friend. 779 01:01:49,241 --> 01:01:52,281 She really loves me. And I love her. 780 01:01:53,561 --> 01:01:54,681 Luckily, for us, 781 01:01:54,881 --> 01:01:57,881 polygamy isn't possible for women. 782 01:01:58,041 --> 01:02:00,241 I say "luckily," because if my wife 783 01:02:00,401 --> 01:02:02,761 loved another man besides me, 784 01:02:02,921 --> 01:02:04,721 it'd make things difficult. 785 01:02:04,881 --> 01:02:06,441 It'd be very complicated 786 01:02:06,601 --> 01:02:08,441 because I am extremely jealous. 787 01:02:08,601 --> 01:02:10,321 Extremely jealous. 788 01:02:10,481 --> 01:02:12,401 I couldn't stand 789 01:02:12,561 --> 01:02:15,001 my wife spending the night 790 01:02:15,161 --> 01:02:16,721 in another man's arms 791 01:02:16,881 --> 01:02:19,361 and then spend the next night with me. 792 01:02:19,521 --> 01:02:21,561 I could never stand that. 793 01:02:21,721 --> 01:02:23,441 So, luckily, 794 01:02:23,601 --> 01:02:25,361 polygamy for women 795 01:02:25,521 --> 01:02:27,641 isn't possible in Burkina Faso. 796 01:02:27,801 --> 01:02:31,441 Because I just couldn't imagine it. 797 01:02:32,441 --> 01:02:35,001 When I went and stayed with my... 798 01:02:35,761 --> 01:02:38,121 wife at her house in San Francisco... 799 01:02:38,281 --> 01:02:39,801 She's not my wife, 800 01:02:39,961 --> 01:02:41,521 but the woman I'm with. 801 01:02:42,561 --> 01:02:44,161 This was about a week 802 01:02:44,321 --> 01:02:45,721 after we started dating. 803 01:02:46,281 --> 01:02:48,521 I woke up in the morning and I said: 804 01:02:48,681 --> 01:02:51,481 "I ask this of you and this of you and this of you 805 01:02:52,601 --> 01:02:54,401 "and you're hesitating." 806 01:02:54,561 --> 01:02:56,801 The woman I'm with can't have a list of nos. 807 01:02:56,961 --> 01:02:58,961 It's got to be pretty much all yeses 808 01:02:59,201 --> 01:03:01,561 or we don't have a relationship. 809 01:03:01,721 --> 01:03:04,161 And it took her about a month 810 01:03:04,321 --> 01:03:06,161 after I pointed that out to her 811 01:03:06,641 --> 01:03:09,601 to realize that these nos could not exist. 812 01:03:09,761 --> 01:03:13,681 And so, that's how very little shitty my woman is. 813 01:03:13,841 --> 01:03:17,441 She's freakin' very unique, very amazing. 814 01:03:17,601 --> 01:03:19,281 She gives me... 815 01:03:19,441 --> 01:03:22,761 Like, she was raised to adore her man. 816 01:03:22,921 --> 01:03:25,001 Like old-school Mexican. 817 01:03:25,161 --> 01:03:26,681 Know when to speak up. 818 01:03:26,841 --> 01:03:29,641 That doesn't mean you can't tell me something, 819 01:03:29,801 --> 01:03:32,681 that doesn't mean I don't want guidance. 820 01:03:32,841 --> 01:03:34,401 But in my household, 821 01:03:34,561 --> 01:03:36,201 the man is the man of the house. 822 01:03:37,881 --> 01:03:40,601 At home, on weekends, I do the cooking. 823 01:03:40,761 --> 01:03:42,761 One day, a friend came to my house. 824 01:03:42,921 --> 01:03:44,961 He said: "You do the cooking?" 825 01:03:45,121 --> 01:03:46,001 I said: "Yes." 826 01:03:46,161 --> 01:03:47,201 "Is your wife sick?" 827 01:03:47,361 --> 01:03:50,561 I said: "No, she's resting." 828 01:03:50,721 --> 01:03:52,401 "What? You do the cooking 829 01:03:52,561 --> 01:03:55,001 "while your wife has a rest?" 830 01:03:55,161 --> 01:03:58,001 "Yes, she needs rest." 831 01:03:58,161 --> 01:04:02,001 He said: "My wife will never come visit you. 832 01:04:02,161 --> 01:04:05,841 "You'd put ideas in her head. 833 01:04:06,001 --> 01:04:07,681 "When she comes home, 834 01:04:07,841 --> 01:04:09,521 "she'll ask me to cook too." 835 01:04:10,321 --> 01:04:12,601 I said to him: "You must understand 836 01:04:12,761 --> 01:04:14,721 "that they need to rest." 837 01:04:15,321 --> 01:04:16,921 Anyway, I enjoy 838 01:04:17,081 --> 01:04:19,401 cooking for my family. 839 01:04:23,641 --> 01:04:25,321 I'm in prison, 840 01:04:25,481 --> 01:04:27,601 because I had an abortion. 841 01:04:27,761 --> 01:04:32,001 I couldn't have continued my studies 842 01:04:32,161 --> 01:04:34,361 because I was in a boarding school 843 01:04:34,921 --> 01:04:38,721 and I didn't want to stop my studies. 844 01:04:38,881 --> 01:04:42,441 I'd have stopped for too long, 845 01:04:42,601 --> 01:04:47,401 with the pregnancy, the birth, breastfeeding, 846 01:04:47,561 --> 01:04:50,081 and I couldn't consider that. 847 01:04:50,241 --> 01:04:54,121 So, I decided to have an abortion. 848 01:04:56,761 --> 01:04:58,801 What pleases me today 849 01:04:58,961 --> 01:05:03,001 is that I'm getting out of prison tomorrow. 850 01:05:03,281 --> 01:05:07,361 I'll continue my studies 851 01:05:07,521 --> 01:05:09,521 and work. 852 01:05:10,161 --> 01:05:13,081 And maybe one day, I'll have a child. 853 01:05:13,241 --> 01:05:16,201 I'll be just like everyone else. 854 01:05:27,321 --> 01:05:29,601 There is a way out of being abused. 855 01:05:30,241 --> 01:05:31,921 For me, it was tough because 856 01:05:32,081 --> 01:05:34,001 I used to have the worst abuse. 857 01:05:34,161 --> 01:05:36,001 I would have a gun put to my head 858 01:05:36,161 --> 01:05:39,121 and get told to go on my knees and beg for my life. 859 01:05:39,921 --> 01:05:43,081 And I would do it. My kids used to be watching. 860 01:05:43,241 --> 01:05:44,841 Or get put out of the house 861 01:05:45,001 --> 01:05:47,761 and have to sleep outside on the steps. 862 01:05:47,921 --> 01:05:50,081 If I moved from there, I'd get a hiding. 863 01:05:50,241 --> 01:05:52,601 It was tough, because I thought it was me. 864 01:05:52,761 --> 01:05:55,161 I was the one that was doing something wrong 865 01:05:55,321 --> 01:05:56,681 in our marriage. 866 01:05:57,441 --> 01:06:00,401 I talked about my kids, the most important thing of my life. 867 01:06:00,561 --> 01:06:03,481 I thought, if I don't move on out of here, 868 01:06:03,641 --> 01:06:05,121 I'm either going to be dead 869 01:06:05,281 --> 01:06:06,761 or my kids are going to be dead. 870 01:06:06,921 --> 01:06:08,201 So, I need to move on. 871 01:06:08,521 --> 01:06:10,401 I need to do something. 872 01:06:10,561 --> 01:06:13,881 I went home that day and I said to him: "I'm leaving." 873 01:06:14,801 --> 01:06:16,161 Mark got a bit of a shock, 874 01:06:16,321 --> 01:06:19,441 because he didn't realize that I was leaving. 875 01:06:19,601 --> 01:06:23,001 He said: "You'll never leave me, you love me too much." 876 01:06:23,161 --> 01:06:25,441 And I said: "Well, you know what? 877 01:06:25,961 --> 01:06:28,521 "That's what love is about. Leaving." 878 01:06:30,201 --> 01:06:33,641 I gave him two choices. I said to him: 879 01:06:33,801 --> 01:06:36,881 "You either go for counseling, or I leave." 880 01:06:37,761 --> 01:06:39,761 You know what? Today, he's a better man. 881 01:06:39,921 --> 01:06:42,881 He's never lifted a hand up for me since the day. 882 01:06:43,041 --> 01:06:45,801 That's about 9 years ago. 883 01:06:46,641 --> 01:06:49,321 So, 9 years ago, I was still an abused woman. 884 01:09:54,561 --> 01:09:55,961 I am gay. 885 01:09:56,121 --> 01:10:00,161 I've known I've liked girls ever since I was a little girl. 886 01:10:00,321 --> 01:10:03,601 And I kept it a secret from my family. 887 01:10:03,761 --> 01:10:06,881 I remember when Ellen DeGeneres, the TV host, came out, 888 01:10:07,041 --> 01:10:10,881 it was the first time I ever heard of the word "gay" before. 889 01:10:11,041 --> 01:10:12,801 My parents were talking about it. 890 01:10:12,961 --> 01:10:15,201 I asked my dad: "Dad, what is gay?" 891 01:10:15,361 --> 01:10:19,801 "It's a girl who likes another girl and they're going to hell." 892 01:10:19,961 --> 01:10:22,881 And so, I said: "OK." 893 01:10:23,041 --> 01:10:25,721 I walked straight up to my room, closed the door 894 01:10:25,881 --> 01:10:26,801 very quietly, 895 01:10:26,961 --> 01:10:30,281 and then, I bawled my eyes out into my pillow. 896 01:10:30,441 --> 01:10:32,761 And I prayed to God every day: 897 01:10:32,921 --> 01:10:35,881 "Please let me like boys, please make me straight." 898 01:10:36,041 --> 01:10:38,561 Because I knew I liked girls. 899 01:10:38,721 --> 01:10:40,521 And so, I tried 900 01:10:41,281 --> 01:10:44,081 pretending I liked boys, but I never did. 901 01:10:44,241 --> 01:10:45,841 And then, I met 902 01:10:46,841 --> 01:10:48,841 to me the love of my life. 903 01:10:49,801 --> 01:10:51,761 And her name is Jen. 904 01:10:52,681 --> 01:10:55,041 Gosh, she was just... my world changed. 905 01:10:55,201 --> 01:10:58,241 And I didn't really care about anything else. 906 01:10:58,401 --> 01:11:01,241 I just knew I wanted to be near her. 907 01:11:01,961 --> 01:11:04,081 And that was love to me. 908 01:11:08,241 --> 01:11:10,841 Being a lesbian is not a choice for me. 909 01:11:11,001 --> 01:11:13,481 It's something that is inside you... 910 01:11:16,481 --> 01:11:19,561 that no one can help. 911 01:11:20,001 --> 01:11:22,881 It's not curable. It's not a disease actually. 912 01:11:23,041 --> 01:11:25,041 'Cause they always say we're sick. 913 01:11:25,201 --> 01:11:29,321 Our families even take us to the doctor's, 914 01:11:29,481 --> 01:11:31,121 to the marabout's. 915 01:11:31,281 --> 01:11:34,241 But it just stays there. 916 01:11:35,201 --> 01:11:36,961 I even had to 917 01:11:37,121 --> 01:11:39,561 force myself with guys 918 01:11:40,761 --> 01:11:43,281 to get my granny's approval. 919 01:11:44,681 --> 01:11:46,521 It hurts, 'cause 920 01:11:47,921 --> 01:11:49,441 I had to do stuff 921 01:11:49,601 --> 01:11:52,201 I really, really didn't want to do. 922 01:11:52,361 --> 01:11:55,641 Even though I did that... 923 01:11:56,321 --> 01:11:59,121 I even asked a friend of mine 924 01:11:59,281 --> 01:12:02,201 to pretend as if he's my boyfriend. 925 01:12:02,361 --> 01:12:04,401 But that guy, what he did... 926 01:12:04,561 --> 01:12:07,841 He forced himself to me 927 01:12:08,001 --> 01:12:10,641 and then, he left me with HIV. 928 01:12:12,961 --> 01:12:15,721 And that was in 2003. 929 01:12:16,441 --> 01:12:20,561 I did all that just to get my granny's approval. 930 01:12:20,721 --> 01:12:22,161 But now 931 01:12:22,321 --> 01:12:24,841 I know that I don't have to do anything 932 01:12:25,001 --> 01:12:27,441 to please someone else. 933 01:12:28,601 --> 01:12:31,521 My parents were so afraid I'd remain a homosexual 934 01:12:31,681 --> 01:12:33,521 that when I said I was changing, 935 01:12:33,681 --> 01:12:35,001 they really believed it. 936 01:12:35,721 --> 01:12:37,841 They asked me every day: 937 01:12:38,001 --> 01:12:39,481 "OK, have you changed?" 938 01:12:39,721 --> 01:12:41,521 As it's not possible to change, 939 01:12:41,681 --> 01:12:44,041 I pretended to ignore the question. 940 01:12:44,201 --> 01:12:47,081 After a while, my father couldn't take any more. 941 01:12:47,321 --> 01:12:49,361 He started yelling at me, 942 01:12:49,521 --> 01:12:51,241 hitting me and saying: 943 01:12:51,401 --> 01:12:53,921 "I know you haven't changed! 944 01:12:54,081 --> 01:12:55,921 "If you bullshit me, 945 01:12:56,081 --> 01:12:57,881 "I'll make your life hell. 946 01:12:58,041 --> 01:13:00,401 "Leave now if you're really like that." 947 01:13:00,561 --> 01:13:02,441 So, I left. I didn't hesitate. 948 01:13:02,601 --> 01:13:04,041 I left. 949 01:13:04,561 --> 01:13:07,081 I have a son who's now 31 years old 950 01:13:08,161 --> 01:13:09,801 who I love very much. 951 01:13:10,121 --> 01:13:12,001 He's gay, a gay man. 952 01:13:12,161 --> 01:13:14,761 The day that he came out was quite significant. 953 01:13:15,161 --> 01:13:17,961 I knew that he was struggling with something. 954 01:13:18,121 --> 01:13:19,881 He'd been suicidal 955 01:13:20,041 --> 01:13:22,401 and he was 18 years old. 956 01:13:23,521 --> 01:13:26,841 He said to me one day: "Dad, I've got to tell you something." 957 01:13:27,001 --> 01:13:30,601 And I said: "OK, son, tell me, what is it?" 958 01:13:32,081 --> 01:13:35,641 He went pale, he really went white, 959 01:13:35,801 --> 01:13:38,241 and he said: "I feel sick." 960 01:13:38,401 --> 01:13:40,361 And my heart really went out to him. 961 01:13:40,521 --> 01:13:42,881 At that moment, I kind of knew 962 01:13:43,041 --> 01:13:45,121 that he was going to tell me he was gay 963 01:13:45,281 --> 01:13:48,281 although I hadn't made that connection, 964 01:13:48,441 --> 01:13:51,801 because he's quite masculine in his traits. 965 01:13:51,961 --> 01:13:55,601 At that moment, I had a sense that's what he was going to tell me. 966 01:13:55,761 --> 01:13:58,761 So, I said to him: "Son, let me guess. 967 01:13:58,921 --> 01:14:01,041 "Let me make it easier for you." 968 01:14:01,201 --> 01:14:02,001 He said OK. 969 01:14:02,161 --> 01:14:05,281 I said: "You're going to tell me you're gay, aren't you?" 970 01:14:05,441 --> 01:14:08,001 He went: "Yes, I am." 971 01:14:09,081 --> 01:14:11,841 I just really, really felt for him. 972 01:14:12,001 --> 01:14:14,681 It was such a struggle for him to tell me that. 973 01:14:14,841 --> 01:14:16,721 Everything sort of made sense, 974 01:14:16,881 --> 01:14:18,481 because he didn't want to be gay. 975 01:14:18,641 --> 01:14:21,161 And that's why he'd been suicidal. 976 01:14:21,321 --> 01:14:24,561 I just gave him a big hug and said: "I love you anyway, son. 977 01:14:24,721 --> 01:14:27,721 "It doesn't make any difference to how much I love you." 978 01:14:27,881 --> 01:14:29,721 And I think that 979 01:14:29,881 --> 01:14:33,601 our relationship has really been a lot stronger since then. 980 01:14:34,121 --> 01:14:36,561 So, that's been a journey in itself. 981 01:14:41,121 --> 01:14:44,081 It was in 2009. 982 01:14:44,481 --> 01:14:46,281 A friend, homosexual like me. 983 01:14:46,441 --> 01:14:48,841 When this friend died, 984 01:14:49,001 --> 01:14:50,561 he was buried 985 01:14:50,721 --> 01:14:53,921 in his village cemetery. 986 01:14:55,161 --> 01:14:57,921 But the local imam 987 01:14:58,081 --> 01:15:00,761 gathered together the people, 988 01:15:00,921 --> 01:15:02,281 the young people. 989 01:15:02,441 --> 01:15:04,281 They went to the cemetery 990 01:15:04,441 --> 01:15:07,161 to dig up the body. 991 01:15:07,761 --> 01:15:10,321 They took it, tied it up, 992 01:15:10,481 --> 01:15:12,601 and dragged it through the streets. 993 01:15:12,761 --> 01:15:15,121 The media were there. 994 01:15:15,281 --> 01:15:16,881 They filmed it. 995 01:15:19,681 --> 01:15:21,561 The police came. 996 01:15:22,801 --> 01:15:26,081 Afterwards, the family got the body back 997 01:15:26,881 --> 01:15:28,361 and buried it again. 998 01:15:28,521 --> 01:15:31,641 It was dug up again. 3 times in all. 999 01:15:31,801 --> 01:15:34,241 In the end, the body was buried 1000 01:15:34,401 --> 01:15:36,561 in his father's yard. 1001 01:15:36,721 --> 01:15:40,201 Because the Muslim religion says 1002 01:15:40,361 --> 01:15:42,321 that when you're homosexual, 1003 01:15:42,481 --> 01:15:43,761 if you die, 1004 01:15:43,921 --> 01:15:46,921 people can't pray for you, 1005 01:15:47,081 --> 01:15:48,961 they can't bury you 1006 01:15:49,121 --> 01:15:51,081 in a Muslim cemetery. 1007 01:15:51,241 --> 01:15:53,561 That's what they say. 1008 01:15:54,401 --> 01:15:57,361 I'm a gay man from Lebanon. 1009 01:15:57,521 --> 01:15:59,241 We have no rights over there. 1010 01:15:59,401 --> 01:16:02,121 We have no rights in the Arab world in general. 1011 01:16:02,281 --> 01:16:03,761 I think what I can do more 1012 01:16:03,921 --> 01:16:05,761 is what I've started to do, 1013 01:16:06,241 --> 01:16:08,721 I think I should come out even more. 1014 01:16:09,481 --> 01:16:10,961 I am out to my parents. 1015 01:16:11,121 --> 01:16:14,161 I am out to my friends, I am out to my work, 1016 01:16:16,201 --> 01:16:19,001 but I think I want to encourage other people like me 1017 01:16:19,841 --> 01:16:21,561 who have nothing to lose. 1018 01:16:21,721 --> 01:16:22,921 Because I have a salary, 1019 01:16:23,081 --> 01:16:25,721 because my mum has proven with time, 1020 01:16:25,881 --> 01:16:28,001 it took time, that she'll love me anyway. 1021 01:16:28,161 --> 01:16:30,641 Now she knows, she knows my boyfriend. 1022 01:16:30,801 --> 01:16:32,841 She loves me for the way I am, my dad as well. 1023 01:16:33,001 --> 01:16:34,481 My friends as well. 1024 01:16:35,081 --> 01:16:37,041 I think if you don't tell anyone, 1025 01:16:37,721 --> 01:16:40,761 the other moms won't know that it's OK to be gay. 1026 01:16:41,081 --> 01:16:43,721 People should be less shy, 1027 01:16:43,961 --> 01:16:45,921 more daring when you have nothing to lose. 1028 01:16:46,081 --> 01:16:47,361 Some people have a lot to lose. 1029 01:16:47,521 --> 01:16:49,881 Those are not the people that should do the change, 1030 01:16:50,041 --> 01:16:52,561 but the ones that have nothing to lose. 1031 01:20:34,321 --> 01:20:36,161 In Iraq, one of my friends 1032 01:20:36,321 --> 01:20:38,281 was hit with a car bomb in front of me. 1033 01:20:38,441 --> 01:20:42,121 I chased after the triggerman with my squad, 1034 01:20:42,281 --> 01:20:43,881 with one of my teams. 1035 01:20:44,041 --> 01:20:47,681 And we were just... we wanted to kill that guy. 1036 01:20:47,841 --> 01:20:51,321 'Cause I could hear my buddy screaming, he was hurt. 1037 01:20:51,601 --> 01:20:54,041 And so, we're running as fast as we can. 1038 01:20:54,201 --> 01:20:56,321 We're just full of hate and fury. 1039 01:20:56,481 --> 01:20:59,441 We just want to do whatever we can to... 1040 01:21:00,241 --> 01:21:02,561 He hurt our friend, we're going to get him back. 1041 01:21:02,721 --> 01:21:06,961 We're just running as fast as we can, with all that weight. 1042 01:21:07,121 --> 01:21:09,481 Just sweat pouring off of us. 1043 01:21:09,641 --> 01:21:11,521 Through orange fields, 1044 01:21:11,681 --> 01:21:14,201 then we get to a clearing. 1045 01:21:16,681 --> 01:21:19,281 It hit me. I mean, this blue sky. 1046 01:21:19,441 --> 01:21:21,521 There was an old man 1047 01:21:22,001 --> 01:21:25,521 in a white robe and a child. 1048 01:21:25,681 --> 01:21:28,561 Just tilling a field, you know, and that just... 1049 01:21:29,241 --> 01:21:30,681 brought me back to reality. 1050 01:21:30,841 --> 01:21:32,921 "What am I doing? 1051 01:21:33,081 --> 01:21:35,441 "I'm a human being, I'm not... 1052 01:21:36,801 --> 01:21:39,481 "I'm not some instrument of revenge." 1053 01:21:39,641 --> 01:21:42,561 I don't know. It's like, you stop and you're like... 1054 01:21:43,921 --> 01:21:46,561 Just people doing 1055 01:21:46,721 --> 01:21:49,801 people things here, where I'm supposed to... 1056 01:21:49,961 --> 01:21:52,361 where all this violence is happening. 1057 01:21:52,521 --> 01:21:55,001 And you stop and you're like... 1058 01:21:57,801 --> 01:22:00,641 I don't know, makes you human again. 1059 01:22:01,481 --> 01:22:03,921 I get up in the morning, go to the fields 1060 01:22:04,081 --> 01:22:07,681 to get my beans and my corn. 1061 01:22:07,841 --> 01:22:12,841 I see ripe beans and corn. 1062 01:22:13,001 --> 01:22:14,241 Oh, what joy! 1063 01:22:14,401 --> 01:22:16,321 When we get to the field, 1064 01:22:16,481 --> 01:22:18,081 we are so happy 1065 01:22:18,241 --> 01:22:22,121 that we almost want to just stand there 1066 01:22:22,281 --> 01:22:23,801 as it's so beautiful. 1067 01:22:23,961 --> 01:22:26,961 A field of corn or beans is beautiful. 1068 01:22:27,121 --> 01:22:30,001 And every time, it gives us 1069 01:22:30,161 --> 01:22:31,881 fresh heart. 1070 01:22:32,961 --> 01:22:35,641 At the moment, I have nothing at all. 1071 01:22:35,801 --> 01:22:37,801 I farm a small piece of land. 1072 01:22:37,961 --> 01:22:41,201 I plant some vegetables to eat. 1073 01:22:41,361 --> 01:22:44,281 My husband has just gone to get his pay, 1074 01:22:44,441 --> 01:22:48,481 but it's a tiny amount. 1075 01:22:48,641 --> 01:22:50,601 Apart from that, I have nothing at all. 1076 01:22:50,761 --> 01:22:54,241 There's just a hen at home. 1077 01:22:54,401 --> 01:22:56,161 If she lays eggs, 1078 01:22:56,321 --> 01:22:57,481 I sell them at the market, 1079 01:22:57,641 --> 01:22:59,641 then I buy salt and things, 1080 01:22:59,801 --> 01:23:01,601 enough to survive each day. 1081 01:23:01,761 --> 01:23:03,041 I have no cattle. 1082 01:23:03,201 --> 01:23:05,161 I have nothing. 1083 01:23:07,921 --> 01:23:09,761 Yes, well, 1084 01:23:09,921 --> 01:23:13,001 I, Estima Joseph, say 1085 01:23:13,161 --> 01:23:15,961 that my life is finished in this country. 1086 01:23:17,881 --> 01:23:19,481 The rain doesn't fall. 1087 01:23:19,641 --> 01:23:22,161 I can't plant anything to harvest 1088 01:23:22,321 --> 01:23:26,001 to feed my wife and children. 1089 01:23:26,161 --> 01:23:28,001 So, at the moment, 1090 01:23:28,841 --> 01:23:31,881 there's no more wood to chop in the countryside 1091 01:23:32,041 --> 01:23:34,041 to earn money, 1092 01:23:34,201 --> 01:23:36,401 not even small branches 1093 01:23:36,561 --> 01:23:38,321 to make a bag of charcoal. 1094 01:23:38,481 --> 01:23:40,321 You can spend a day or two 1095 01:23:40,481 --> 01:23:42,681 without any food 1096 01:23:42,841 --> 01:23:45,481 for your children who are crying at your feet. 1097 01:23:45,641 --> 01:23:48,241 There's no-one to tell you: 1098 01:23:48,401 --> 01:23:50,441 "My dear fellow, take this. 1099 01:23:50,601 --> 01:23:53,441 "It's for you, to help you in the country!" 1100 01:23:53,601 --> 01:23:55,561 We're lying down, waiting for death, 1101 01:23:55,721 --> 01:23:58,601 because what we call life is over. 1102 01:23:59,521 --> 01:24:00,801 You lie there, 1103 01:24:00,961 --> 01:24:02,601 you've nothing for your children. 1104 01:24:02,761 --> 01:24:05,481 Nothing to give them, nobody to help you. 1105 01:24:05,641 --> 01:24:08,001 You lie there and wait for death. 1106 01:24:08,161 --> 01:24:10,001 I call that "life finished". 1107 01:24:10,161 --> 01:24:11,921 Life is already finished. 1108 01:24:12,081 --> 01:24:14,201 You don't have an animal to sell. 1109 01:24:16,961 --> 01:24:18,001 Yes. 1110 01:24:20,401 --> 01:24:22,441 Yes, life is completely finished. 1111 01:24:22,841 --> 01:24:23,841 Yes. 1112 01:24:28,681 --> 01:24:30,441 We had no harvest. 1113 01:24:30,601 --> 01:24:32,161 It was so dry 1114 01:24:32,321 --> 01:24:34,761 that my husband had 2 wells dug 1115 01:24:34,921 --> 01:24:36,721 for 70,000 rupees each. 1116 01:24:37,281 --> 01:24:39,961 But as they didn't find any water, 1117 01:24:40,121 --> 01:24:42,041 the vines dried up 1118 01:24:42,201 --> 01:24:44,841 and we didn't have any grapes. 1119 01:24:45,001 --> 01:24:46,761 I think that my husband 1120 01:24:46,921 --> 01:24:49,321 already had debts last year 1121 01:24:49,481 --> 01:24:51,241 which he couldn't repay. 1122 01:24:51,401 --> 01:24:54,481 Now who should be paid back first? 1123 01:24:54,641 --> 01:24:57,241 I have no idea what to do. 1124 01:24:57,401 --> 01:24:58,801 There's no water anywhere. 1125 01:24:58,961 --> 01:25:01,321 There was a well, but it's dry. 1126 01:25:01,481 --> 01:25:02,841 There's no more water. 1127 01:25:03,001 --> 01:25:06,281 So, how can the debts be repaid? 1128 01:25:08,681 --> 01:25:10,801 That's why he committed suicide. 1129 01:25:24,601 --> 01:25:25,721 This year, 1130 01:25:25,961 --> 01:25:28,561 I was covering a very severe drought 1131 01:25:28,721 --> 01:25:31,561 in western Maharastra, in this country. 1132 01:25:32,041 --> 01:25:33,321 And on the one hand, 1133 01:25:33,481 --> 01:25:37,761 I was looking at people facing destitution 1134 01:25:37,921 --> 01:25:39,601 due to a water crisis. 1135 01:25:39,761 --> 01:25:41,001 On the other hand, 1136 01:25:41,161 --> 01:25:44,161 I was looking at multi-story buildings coming up 1137 01:25:44,321 --> 01:25:46,521 with a swimming pool 1138 01:25:46,681 --> 01:25:48,641 on every floor. 1139 01:25:49,041 --> 01:25:52,361 We're not talking about buildings with 3 or 4 floors. 1140 01:25:52,521 --> 01:25:55,041 There is a plan for 2 twin towers in Mumbai 1141 01:25:55,201 --> 01:25:57,281 even now under construction, 1142 01:25:57,721 --> 01:25:59,561 37 floors each, 1143 01:25:59,721 --> 01:26:04,201 which means there are 74 swimming pools. 1144 01:26:04,441 --> 01:26:06,121 It's a twin tower. 1145 01:26:06,281 --> 01:26:07,801 And then, I went and looked at 1146 01:26:07,961 --> 01:26:11,281 who are the people doing the construction, these laborers. 1147 01:26:11,441 --> 01:26:13,601 All the laborers were landless laborers 1148 01:26:13,761 --> 01:26:15,401 and marginal farmers 1149 01:26:15,561 --> 01:26:17,361 who had left their villages 1150 01:26:17,601 --> 01:26:19,881 as refugees of the water crisis 1151 01:26:20,041 --> 01:26:21,441 and they're in the cities 1152 01:26:21,601 --> 01:26:23,681 building our swimming pools. 1153 01:26:24,681 --> 01:26:26,801 The sheer humiliation of it, 1154 01:26:27,041 --> 01:26:29,401 the sheer injustice of it! 1155 01:26:29,761 --> 01:26:31,801 I think the fastest growing sector in India 1156 01:26:31,961 --> 01:26:33,961 is not software or IT. 1157 01:26:34,121 --> 01:26:35,841 It is inequality. 1158 01:26:36,441 --> 01:26:38,401 So, yeah, it makes me furious. 1159 01:26:38,561 --> 01:26:41,241 It is completely unacceptable to me 1160 01:26:41,401 --> 01:26:44,001 to see how closely 1161 01:26:44,881 --> 01:26:47,201 the affluence of the few 1162 01:26:47,361 --> 01:26:50,681 is tied to the misery of the many. 1163 01:26:50,841 --> 01:26:52,601 That's unacceptable. 1164 01:26:55,561 --> 01:26:58,201 World leaders, 1165 01:26:58,361 --> 01:27:00,841 help us have a decent life. 1166 01:27:01,001 --> 01:27:03,681 Otherwise we'll starve to death. 1167 01:27:04,361 --> 01:27:06,641 It's the fault of the government 1168 01:27:06,801 --> 01:27:08,881 and politicians 1169 01:27:09,041 --> 01:27:11,961 if we have nothing to wear, 1170 01:27:12,481 --> 01:27:15,201 nowhere to sleep, and nothing to cook. 1171 01:27:15,361 --> 01:27:17,241 We're dying. 1172 01:27:17,401 --> 01:27:19,521 Who knows if we'll still be alive tomorrow? 1173 01:27:19,681 --> 01:27:22,481 Who can say if we'll have anything to eat? 1174 01:27:22,641 --> 01:27:24,921 My children are dying. 1175 01:27:25,081 --> 01:27:26,961 We have nowhere to live, 1176 01:27:27,121 --> 01:27:30,121 not even a roof or a plot of land. 1177 01:27:30,281 --> 01:27:32,401 I go from village to village 1178 01:27:32,561 --> 01:27:34,601 to plow other people's fields. 1179 01:27:34,761 --> 01:27:36,881 And all this for what? 1180 01:27:37,041 --> 01:27:40,521 One day, we eat, the next, we have to starve. 1181 01:27:41,401 --> 01:27:44,121 But nobody listens to us. 1182 01:27:44,561 --> 01:27:48,041 The government doesn't care about our problems. 1183 01:27:48,201 --> 01:27:50,721 They don't think about us poor folk. 1184 01:27:51,441 --> 01:27:54,201 Only about themselves. 1185 01:31:11,841 --> 01:31:13,561 I left Pakistan 1186 01:31:13,721 --> 01:31:17,961 because of our living conditions. 1187 01:31:18,121 --> 01:31:20,601 It was especially clear to my wife 1188 01:31:20,761 --> 01:31:23,241 that my income could not provide 1189 01:31:23,401 --> 01:31:25,361 for health care and schooling. 1190 01:31:26,081 --> 01:31:27,881 She sacrificed herself for me, 1191 01:31:28,041 --> 01:31:29,241 for my family. 1192 01:31:29,401 --> 01:31:31,921 I sacrificed myself and my family too 1193 01:31:32,081 --> 01:31:33,721 by allowing myself 1194 01:31:33,881 --> 01:31:36,401 to emigrate so I could at least 1195 01:31:36,561 --> 01:31:38,361 give my children an education 1196 01:31:38,521 --> 01:31:39,881 and health care 1197 01:31:40,041 --> 01:31:43,361 and meet all their basic needs. 1198 01:31:44,241 --> 01:31:47,481 I'll never forget the day I left. 1199 01:31:47,641 --> 01:31:49,441 I was with a few friends. 1200 01:31:49,601 --> 01:31:52,601 My mother came out on the doorstep. 1201 01:31:53,001 --> 01:31:56,081 She was holding my son in her arms. 1202 01:31:56,241 --> 01:31:58,281 I was sitting in the car. 1203 01:31:58,441 --> 01:32:01,281 She put my son on my lap: 1204 01:32:01,441 --> 01:32:02,841 "Take a good look at him. 1205 01:32:03,001 --> 01:32:05,241 "Who knows when you'll see him again?" 1206 01:32:05,401 --> 01:32:08,081 I'll never forget that scene. 1207 01:32:08,241 --> 01:32:09,961 I can still see my child 1208 01:32:10,121 --> 01:32:12,961 as if he were right in front of me. 1209 01:32:18,081 --> 01:32:21,641 I left Sudan because the regime 1210 01:32:23,601 --> 01:32:25,801 wouldn't leave us alone. 1211 01:32:27,201 --> 01:32:30,121 Entire families were killed. 1212 01:32:31,241 --> 01:32:33,121 Everyone figured 1213 01:32:33,281 --> 01:32:34,881 we were doomed. 1214 01:32:35,041 --> 01:32:38,561 The main thing was that I was saved. 1215 01:32:38,721 --> 01:32:40,401 God spared me. 1216 01:32:40,561 --> 01:32:42,601 I arrived in France. 1217 01:32:43,401 --> 01:32:47,321 Thanks to God, at home, we were farmers. 1218 01:32:47,481 --> 01:32:49,241 And it was enough for us! 1219 01:32:49,481 --> 01:32:50,921 We had cattle. 1220 01:32:51,081 --> 01:32:54,241 We never lacked either money 1221 01:32:54,401 --> 01:32:56,521 or food. 1222 01:32:58,241 --> 01:33:00,401 Thanks to God, we lived well. 1223 01:33:00,561 --> 01:33:03,041 But the regime would not leave us alone. 1224 01:33:05,641 --> 01:33:08,081 They raped my sisters in front of me. 1225 01:33:10,521 --> 01:33:12,001 When my wife arrived, 1226 01:33:12,161 --> 01:33:13,481 they flogged her. 1227 01:33:13,641 --> 01:33:15,401 They raped her in front of me. 1228 01:33:15,561 --> 01:33:17,121 How could I live 1229 01:33:17,881 --> 01:33:19,521 in that country? 1230 01:33:21,601 --> 01:33:23,561 When I was in the boat, 1231 01:33:24,761 --> 01:33:26,721 I was very scared, 1232 01:33:26,881 --> 01:33:30,281 because I saw absolutely nothing, only the water. 1233 01:33:30,441 --> 01:33:34,361 And the boat also, it's not a quality boat. 1234 01:33:36,281 --> 01:33:40,961 We are 110 people inside the boat, nobody comfortable. 1235 01:33:41,601 --> 01:33:44,761 There was no food to eat, no water to drink. 1236 01:33:45,681 --> 01:33:47,841 You are sitting in that fuel. 1237 01:33:48,521 --> 01:33:50,161 It destroyed all my body. 1238 01:33:50,321 --> 01:33:51,721 Things were hard for me. 1239 01:33:51,881 --> 01:33:54,401 So, when I see the Italians, 1240 01:33:55,441 --> 01:33:57,281 they come and rescue us, 1241 01:33:57,841 --> 01:33:59,121 I thank God. 1242 01:33:59,281 --> 01:34:01,841 I know that now I'm safe. 1243 01:34:02,841 --> 01:34:04,561 Europeans have their reasons 1244 01:34:04,721 --> 01:34:06,641 for limiting immigration. 1245 01:34:07,721 --> 01:34:10,921 We stay here, but there's no work. 1246 01:34:11,081 --> 01:34:12,801 There are entire families 1247 01:34:12,961 --> 01:34:14,841 in which no one works. 1248 01:34:15,841 --> 01:34:17,521 If you can't fish, 1249 01:34:17,681 --> 01:34:19,441 you have nothing to do. 1250 01:34:19,601 --> 01:34:20,801 Thousands of Africans 1251 01:34:20,961 --> 01:34:22,841 die at sea, going to Europe. 1252 01:34:23,601 --> 01:34:26,481 But it's worth it. I'm leaving again. 1253 01:34:26,761 --> 01:34:28,321 For Spain or Italy. 1254 01:34:28,481 --> 01:34:29,921 I've made up my mind. 1255 01:34:30,081 --> 01:34:32,601 It's in my blood to go. 1256 01:34:32,761 --> 01:34:34,241 I'll go by canoe. 1257 01:34:34,401 --> 01:34:37,241 I'll go, crying. I'll go, shouting. 1258 01:34:39,881 --> 01:34:43,281 Now I'm living in the jungle of Calais. 1259 01:34:43,441 --> 01:34:45,441 The police come and disturb us: 1260 01:34:45,601 --> 01:34:47,521 "You have to leave the jungle." 1261 01:34:47,681 --> 01:34:51,441 I said: "Where I have to go? 1262 01:34:51,601 --> 01:34:54,161 "Show me the place. We want to go to that." 1263 01:34:54,321 --> 01:34:56,881 He said: "You have to go back to your country." 1264 01:34:57,041 --> 01:34:58,561 "Where is my country? 1265 01:34:58,721 --> 01:35:00,321 "I don't have a country, man! 1266 01:35:00,481 --> 01:35:02,201 "It's a killing ground, 1267 01:35:02,361 --> 01:35:04,721 "it's a ground of killing the people, 1268 01:35:04,881 --> 01:35:06,881 "it's a ground of fighting. 1269 01:35:07,041 --> 01:35:08,281 "It is not a country! 1270 01:35:08,441 --> 01:35:10,681 "Afghanistan is not a country now! 1271 01:35:10,841 --> 01:35:13,441 "It's a killing ground, man." 1272 01:35:13,601 --> 01:35:17,041 37 countries came to control that country, 1273 01:35:17,201 --> 01:35:20,121 but they cannot control these people. 1274 01:35:20,281 --> 01:35:22,561 The UN cannot control these people! 1275 01:35:22,721 --> 01:35:26,201 How can you send me back to that country? 1276 01:35:27,681 --> 01:35:30,241 I lost my family in that country. 1277 01:35:30,401 --> 01:35:32,441 How can I go back to that country? 1278 01:35:32,601 --> 01:35:34,641 I was a refugee in Pakistan, 1279 01:35:34,801 --> 01:35:36,281 a refugee in Iran, 1280 01:35:36,441 --> 01:35:38,161 a refugee in Dubai. 1281 01:35:38,321 --> 01:35:41,361 I was a refugee in Turkey, 1282 01:35:41,521 --> 01:35:43,081 a refugee in Bulgaria, 1283 01:35:43,241 --> 01:35:46,881 a refugee in a European country, in Greece. 1284 01:35:47,721 --> 01:35:51,081 And now I'm a refugee in France. 1285 01:35:51,641 --> 01:35:53,681 But let me live, man. 1286 01:35:53,841 --> 01:35:55,681 I don't want anything from you. 1287 01:35:55,841 --> 01:35:57,561 I don't want eating from you. 1288 01:35:57,721 --> 01:36:00,921 I don't want anything from you. 1289 01:36:01,081 --> 01:36:02,561 I don't need help! 1290 01:36:02,721 --> 01:36:05,481 But let me live. 1291 01:36:08,401 --> 01:36:10,521 Dad, here I am in Italy. 1292 01:36:10,761 --> 01:36:13,441 I don't know how you are. 1293 01:36:13,601 --> 01:36:16,001 I don't know if you can see me, 1294 01:36:16,161 --> 01:36:18,121 but I'm in Italy. 1295 01:36:18,281 --> 01:36:20,521 I'll always worry about you, 1296 01:36:20,681 --> 01:36:24,121 you and the others, all my brothers and sisters, 1297 01:36:24,281 --> 01:36:26,321 and all my friends over there. 1298 01:36:26,481 --> 01:36:29,161 If I make it here, 1299 01:36:29,321 --> 01:36:32,001 it'll be mainly for you. 1300 01:36:32,161 --> 01:36:33,601 I'll think about you 1301 01:36:33,761 --> 01:36:35,561 till my last breath. 1302 01:36:35,721 --> 01:36:37,801 I don't have the means yet, 1303 01:36:37,961 --> 01:36:39,641 so pray for me. 1304 01:36:39,801 --> 01:36:41,841 I greet you all! 1305 01:40:27,801 --> 01:40:30,801 I'm a Bangladeshi worker in the garment industry. 1306 01:40:30,961 --> 01:40:33,881 I'm outraged when a buyer comes to meet 1307 01:40:34,041 --> 01:40:37,441 the company owner or the marketing team 1308 01:40:37,601 --> 01:40:40,881 to negotiate the price of his order. 1309 01:40:41,201 --> 01:40:44,001 And when other countries slash prices, 1310 01:40:44,161 --> 01:40:48,841 our buyer will look for the best deal. 1311 01:40:49,321 --> 01:40:51,641 He could just think: 1312 01:40:51,801 --> 01:40:54,161 "If Bangladesh supplies me 1313 01:40:54,321 --> 01:40:56,361 "with good quality garments, 1314 01:40:56,521 --> 01:40:59,041 "why not pay a fair price?" 1315 01:40:59,601 --> 01:41:02,321 But we've always been scorned. 1316 01:41:02,481 --> 01:41:04,801 By everyone. 1317 01:41:04,961 --> 01:41:08,041 Not just one person in particular. 1318 01:41:08,201 --> 01:41:11,761 It's the final consumer who steals from me. 1319 01:41:11,921 --> 01:41:13,641 What can I do about it? 1320 01:41:14,001 --> 01:41:15,521 What can... 1321 01:41:15,681 --> 01:41:17,521 How will we be happy? 1322 01:41:17,681 --> 01:41:18,881 How? 1323 01:41:21,801 --> 01:41:25,521 Many things are forbidden in the factory: 1324 01:41:25,681 --> 01:41:27,361 no talking, 1325 01:41:27,521 --> 01:41:29,481 no answering the phone. 1326 01:41:29,641 --> 01:41:32,801 To go to the bathroom, 1327 01:41:32,961 --> 01:41:37,081 we have to ask the supervisor 1328 01:41:37,561 --> 01:41:39,521 for permission, 1329 01:41:39,681 --> 01:41:42,321 and only one person at a time. 1330 01:41:42,681 --> 01:41:46,481 As for productivity, he's very demanding. 1331 01:41:47,041 --> 01:41:50,161 There's an hourly quota to meet, 1332 01:41:50,481 --> 01:41:51,721 it's checked. 1333 01:41:51,881 --> 01:41:54,601 If the quota isn't met, 1334 01:41:54,761 --> 01:41:56,601 they blame you 1335 01:41:56,881 --> 01:41:59,081 and often insult you. 1336 01:41:59,241 --> 01:42:00,561 It's unbearable. 1337 01:42:00,721 --> 01:42:03,161 We're under constant pressure. 1338 01:42:05,441 --> 01:42:08,001 I feel exhausted. 1339 01:42:08,161 --> 01:42:09,721 I can't take any more, 1340 01:42:10,601 --> 01:42:12,481 but I have no other choice. 1341 01:42:18,841 --> 01:42:21,801 An honest worker isn't rich. 1342 01:42:22,361 --> 01:42:26,041 I'm talking about someone who works in a company, 1343 01:42:26,201 --> 01:42:28,521 not the heir to the family business. 1344 01:42:29,641 --> 01:42:30,761 They just juggle 1345 01:42:30,921 --> 01:42:33,561 millions in a company. 1346 01:42:33,721 --> 01:42:35,121 Those folk don't work. 1347 01:42:35,281 --> 01:42:37,801 They sit at a desk and sign bits of paper. 1348 01:42:37,961 --> 01:42:39,961 They're thieves just like me. 1349 01:42:40,121 --> 01:42:41,721 I'm sure of it. 1350 01:42:41,881 --> 01:42:45,241 If you're talking about workers, 1351 01:42:45,401 --> 01:42:48,281 they're people who get up every morning 1352 01:42:48,441 --> 01:42:50,881 and who do real work. 1353 01:42:51,641 --> 01:42:54,241 I don't know any rich folk. 1354 01:42:55,761 --> 01:42:57,481 But take my mother, 1355 01:42:57,641 --> 01:43:00,401 she got up every morning, 1356 01:43:00,561 --> 01:43:03,721 and she's over 40 already. 1357 01:43:04,441 --> 01:43:05,481 She's not rich. 1358 01:43:05,721 --> 01:43:07,561 She's worked her whole life. 1359 01:43:09,801 --> 01:43:12,881 Losing my job was a huge shock. 1360 01:43:13,041 --> 01:43:14,241 Not finding another 1361 01:43:14,401 --> 01:43:16,521 was an even bigger shock. 1362 01:43:16,681 --> 01:43:19,961 You know, I worked for 27 years. 1363 01:43:21,121 --> 01:43:22,321 When I had to 1364 01:43:22,481 --> 01:43:25,441 go back to live with my mother, 1365 01:43:25,601 --> 01:43:27,441 I mainly felt 1366 01:43:27,681 --> 01:43:29,601 humiliation. 1367 01:43:29,761 --> 01:43:31,401 A feeling... 1368 01:43:32,281 --> 01:43:34,201 of devastation. 1369 01:43:36,201 --> 01:43:40,921 I sank into a deep depression. 1370 01:43:41,081 --> 01:43:42,801 More and more. 1371 01:43:44,121 --> 01:43:45,801 I said to myself: 1372 01:43:45,961 --> 01:43:49,481 "I'm 47 and my life is over? 1373 01:43:49,641 --> 01:43:51,561 "Have I nothing else to offer? 1374 01:43:51,721 --> 01:43:53,481 "Nothing more?" 1375 01:43:54,521 --> 01:43:55,961 And these thoughts 1376 01:43:56,121 --> 01:44:01,041 stop you going out and talking. 1377 01:44:01,201 --> 01:44:03,921 You look at yourself in the mirror 1378 01:44:04,081 --> 01:44:06,281 and say: "Who are you, moron? 1379 01:44:06,441 --> 01:44:08,161 "What are you playing at? 1380 01:44:09,041 --> 01:44:10,881 "What are you doing in this life? 1381 01:44:11,041 --> 01:44:12,681 "Why are you breathing? 1382 01:44:12,841 --> 01:44:14,561 "Why do you see the sun? 1383 01:44:14,721 --> 01:44:16,721 "What makes you... 1384 01:44:18,641 --> 01:44:21,961 "any use in this mess you live in? 1385 01:44:22,121 --> 01:44:23,921 "Why, at 47, 1386 01:44:24,081 --> 01:44:26,881 "did you go back to live at your mother's? 1387 01:44:27,041 --> 01:44:29,001 "Were you afraid of being on the street?" 1388 01:44:29,161 --> 01:44:31,361 Yes, I'm scared of being on the street. 1389 01:44:31,521 --> 01:44:34,161 And this humiliation turns into rage. 1390 01:44:35,561 --> 01:44:38,681 Rage, because you want to let off steam, 1391 01:44:38,841 --> 01:44:40,521 and you don't know how. 1392 01:46:33,881 --> 01:46:36,441 I am poor. 1393 01:46:38,481 --> 01:46:41,081 I will define poverty now. 1394 01:46:41,681 --> 01:46:45,201 What poverty means to me. 1395 01:46:45,921 --> 01:46:48,081 It's when I have to go to school, 1396 01:46:48,241 --> 01:46:50,081 but I can't go. 1397 01:46:50,241 --> 01:46:52,921 When I have to eat, but I can't. 1398 01:46:53,081 --> 01:46:55,681 When I have to sleep, but I can't. 1399 01:46:55,841 --> 01:46:58,961 When my wife and children suffer. 1400 01:46:59,321 --> 01:47:04,241 I don't have a sufficient intellectual level 1401 01:47:04,641 --> 01:47:07,361 to get us out of this situation, 1402 01:47:07,521 --> 01:47:09,361 me or my family. 1403 01:47:09,521 --> 01:47:11,561 I really feel poor. 1404 01:47:11,721 --> 01:47:14,561 Physically poor, mentally poor. 1405 01:47:15,121 --> 01:47:18,281 And you rich people who listen to me, 1406 01:47:19,081 --> 01:47:20,961 what do you have to say 1407 01:47:21,121 --> 01:47:23,121 about your wealth? 1408 01:47:26,241 --> 01:47:27,881 I know 1409 01:47:28,041 --> 01:47:30,961 that I'm less happy with more money. 1410 01:47:31,121 --> 01:47:35,081 And I know that I still want more. 1411 01:47:35,641 --> 01:47:38,561 I like things and I pursue the things, 1412 01:47:38,721 --> 01:47:40,961 but the things only make me happy 1413 01:47:41,121 --> 01:47:43,321 for a short period of time. 1414 01:47:45,001 --> 01:47:48,121 Then, I go back and I have the challenges of my family 1415 01:47:48,281 --> 01:47:50,281 and I don't know how 1416 01:47:50,881 --> 01:47:53,561 to make a depressed person happy. 1417 01:47:53,721 --> 01:47:56,601 You can't give them a thing and make them happy, 1418 01:47:57,561 --> 01:47:59,921 because their brain is not happy. 1419 01:48:01,801 --> 01:48:04,841 So, I feel frustrated that 1420 01:48:05,081 --> 01:48:06,641 the cures don't exist. 1421 01:48:06,801 --> 01:48:10,801 And I can't just wave a magic wand and make my... 1422 01:48:11,841 --> 01:48:13,641 son... 1423 01:48:27,321 --> 01:48:28,961 better. 1424 01:48:33,361 --> 01:48:38,561 I lived in a place surrounded by villas. 1425 01:48:38,721 --> 01:48:40,601 And I lived in a hovel. 1426 01:48:41,241 --> 01:48:43,801 I knew that people 1427 01:48:43,961 --> 01:48:46,761 sometimes threw food away. 1428 01:48:47,401 --> 01:48:50,121 And we, especially me, 1429 01:48:50,281 --> 01:48:51,681 we were hungry. 1430 01:48:53,201 --> 01:48:56,641 We just wanted some food. 1431 01:48:56,801 --> 01:49:00,161 For me, poverty 1432 01:49:00,321 --> 01:49:02,761 makes me sad 1433 01:49:02,921 --> 01:49:05,081 because of the injustice. 1434 01:49:05,881 --> 01:49:09,601 Because if everyone had food, 1435 01:49:09,761 --> 01:49:11,481 at least had full bellies, 1436 01:49:11,641 --> 01:49:14,561 at home, we could think. 1437 01:49:15,521 --> 01:49:18,321 Reasoning is intelligence. 1438 01:49:19,841 --> 01:49:23,121 So, we could be poor, 1439 01:49:23,281 --> 01:49:24,761 live in a hovel, 1440 01:49:24,921 --> 01:49:27,681 but have the intelligence 1441 01:49:27,841 --> 01:49:29,881 to be able to get ahead. 1442 01:49:30,041 --> 01:49:31,761 Thank God, 1443 01:49:31,921 --> 01:49:34,481 I managed to rise above all that. 1444 01:49:34,641 --> 01:49:37,521 But how many others can't? 1445 01:49:38,041 --> 01:49:40,401 Many die because of it. 1446 01:49:41,081 --> 01:49:42,921 And that is really sad. 1447 01:49:43,081 --> 01:49:45,761 To me, that's sheer injustice. 1448 01:49:48,441 --> 01:49:51,681 The street is a very tough school. 1449 01:49:54,641 --> 01:49:56,041 Poverty 1450 01:49:57,241 --> 01:49:58,921 is a state 1451 01:50:00,121 --> 01:50:02,121 which I'm in 1452 01:50:02,881 --> 01:50:04,841 at the moment. 1453 01:50:05,681 --> 01:50:09,721 When you're poor, day in and day out, 1454 01:50:12,281 --> 01:50:14,601 it's not that you enjoy it, 1455 01:50:15,961 --> 01:50:19,241 but you do get used to it, 1456 01:50:19,401 --> 01:50:20,961 quite simply. 1457 01:50:25,441 --> 01:50:27,721 Poverty is a state. 1458 01:50:31,161 --> 01:50:33,041 It's a state 1459 01:50:33,761 --> 01:50:35,081 which lasts. 1460 01:50:38,361 --> 01:50:40,081 And for many. 1461 01:50:41,641 --> 01:50:43,401 Far too many. 1462 01:51:05,361 --> 01:51:06,921 What would I like to ask? 1463 01:51:07,161 --> 01:51:09,041 What the hell I'm doing here. 1464 01:51:10,001 --> 01:51:12,401 Why can't I be where you are 1465 01:51:12,561 --> 01:51:15,401 to see what the hell is going on? 1466 01:51:15,561 --> 01:51:17,241 Let's switch for a minute. 1467 01:51:19,961 --> 01:51:22,401 Let's switch! You come here and be me 1468 01:51:22,561 --> 01:51:24,241 and I'll go there and be you. 1469 01:51:24,401 --> 01:51:27,521 We'll meet up in the middle line on the Equator 1470 01:51:27,681 --> 01:51:29,561 and we'll play golf. 1471 01:54:23,841 --> 01:54:26,561 It doesn't matter if I'm the president (of Uruguay). 1472 01:54:28,681 --> 01:54:31,161 I've thought about all this a lot. 1473 01:54:32,721 --> 01:54:34,321 I spent over 10 years 1474 01:54:34,481 --> 01:54:36,161 in a solitary confinement cell. 1475 01:54:37,481 --> 01:54:39,281 I had the time... 1476 01:54:39,441 --> 01:54:42,081 I spent 7 years without opening a book. 1477 01:54:42,481 --> 01:54:44,881 It left me time to think. 1478 01:54:45,041 --> 01:54:47,281 This is what I discovered. 1479 01:54:47,841 --> 01:54:50,921 Either you're happy with very little, 1480 01:54:51,961 --> 01:54:54,081 without overburdening yourself, 1481 01:54:55,041 --> 01:54:57,521 because you have happiness inside, 1482 01:54:59,521 --> 01:55:01,441 or you'll get nowhere. 1483 01:55:03,961 --> 01:55:06,681 I am not advocating poverty. 1484 01:55:06,841 --> 01:55:09,961 I'm advocating sobriety. 1485 01:55:13,481 --> 01:55:14,841 But we invented 1486 01:55:15,001 --> 01:55:17,721 a consumer society... 1487 01:55:21,081 --> 01:55:23,601 which is continually seeking growth. 1488 01:55:24,001 --> 01:55:26,681 When there's no growth, it's tragic. 1489 01:55:28,441 --> 01:55:31,201 We invented a mountain 1490 01:55:31,361 --> 01:55:33,121 of superfluous needs. 1491 01:55:33,281 --> 01:55:36,641 You have to keep buying, throwing away... 1492 01:55:36,801 --> 01:55:39,441 It's our lives we are squandering. 1493 01:55:40,081 --> 01:55:42,601 When I buy something, 1494 01:55:43,961 --> 01:55:45,561 or when you buy it, 1495 01:55:46,321 --> 01:55:48,881 we're not paying with money. 1496 01:55:49,521 --> 01:55:52,081 We're paying with the time from our lives 1497 01:55:52,241 --> 01:55:54,081 we had to spend 1498 01:55:54,241 --> 01:55:56,601 to earn that money. 1499 01:55:57,081 --> 01:55:58,881 The difference is 1500 01:55:59,041 --> 01:56:02,481 that you can't buy life. 1501 01:56:02,841 --> 01:56:04,881 Life just goes by. 1502 01:56:05,761 --> 01:56:07,641 And it's terrible 1503 01:56:07,801 --> 01:56:09,761 to waste your life 1504 01:56:10,681 --> 01:56:12,641 losing your freedom. 1505 02:00:36,681 --> 02:00:38,681 I'm not afraid of dying. 1506 02:00:38,841 --> 02:00:41,361 My children want to make me happy 1507 02:00:42,721 --> 02:00:45,361 so that I leave this life serenely. 1508 02:00:45,801 --> 02:00:48,201 If I'm happy before I die, 1509 02:00:49,081 --> 02:00:51,161 I will be after, too. 1510 02:00:52,881 --> 02:00:55,401 I can't work anymore. 1511 02:00:55,561 --> 02:00:58,361 I'm so old that I no longer know 1512 02:00:58,881 --> 02:01:00,041 if I should sleep 1513 02:01:02,361 --> 02:01:04,761 on this side or that side. 1514 02:01:05,281 --> 02:01:06,761 I sleep badly. 1515 02:01:06,921 --> 02:01:10,121 So, I wait in my bed. 1516 02:01:10,681 --> 02:01:11,841 Sometimes, I tell myself 1517 02:01:12,001 --> 02:01:15,321 I'd be better off dead. 1518 02:01:15,721 --> 02:01:18,241 At least I'd be at peace. 1519 02:01:24,241 --> 02:01:25,481 After death, 1520 02:01:25,641 --> 02:01:27,641 for me, there's nothing else. 1521 02:01:28,401 --> 02:01:30,001 Then, we'll laugh: 1522 02:01:30,161 --> 02:01:31,321 we're going to heaven, 1523 02:01:31,481 --> 02:01:33,521 but we're not taking the right path. 1524 02:01:33,681 --> 02:01:34,681 When you go in the ground, 1525 02:01:34,841 --> 02:01:36,001 you don't go to heaven. 1526 02:01:36,161 --> 02:01:38,401 We're not taking the right path. 1527 02:01:39,001 --> 02:01:42,281 I don't think there's life after death. 1528 02:01:42,441 --> 02:01:44,961 I don't believe in all that. 1529 02:01:48,321 --> 02:01:51,121 When I think of my grandmother whom I loved a lot 1530 02:01:51,281 --> 02:01:53,641 and who died a long time ago, 1531 02:01:53,801 --> 02:01:56,561 I tell myself memories soon fade. 1532 02:01:56,721 --> 02:01:58,881 The picture becomes blurred. 1533 02:01:59,801 --> 02:02:02,761 Sometimes, the sound of the voice disappears. 1534 02:02:02,921 --> 02:02:05,681 What do we leave behind? What remains? 1535 02:02:05,841 --> 02:02:07,401 That scares me. 1536 02:02:07,841 --> 02:02:11,281 It's a totally irrational fear... 1537 02:02:14,681 --> 02:02:17,161 which is based on something 1538 02:02:17,321 --> 02:02:20,001 completely archaic and tribal. 1539 02:02:20,161 --> 02:02:23,241 It stirs up so many things inside of me. 1540 02:02:24,361 --> 02:02:26,321 It's not something 1541 02:02:26,481 --> 02:02:30,121 which has to do with pride 1542 02:02:30,281 --> 02:02:32,361 or anything like that. 1543 02:02:33,241 --> 02:02:35,281 It's something else. 1544 02:02:36,401 --> 02:02:38,481 It's to do with the meaning of life. 1545 02:02:38,641 --> 02:02:40,761 What have we done with our lives? 1546 02:02:40,921 --> 02:02:42,801 Why am I here? 1547 02:02:44,601 --> 02:02:47,001 I don't know. 1548 02:02:47,161 --> 02:02:49,361 I'd like to leave something behind. 1549 02:02:49,521 --> 02:02:51,721 I'd like to leave my mark. 1550 02:03:11,881 --> 02:03:13,641 The meaning of life... 1551 02:03:16,641 --> 02:03:19,801 I don't know if it comes from the fact 1552 02:03:19,961 --> 02:03:21,801 that I don't feel important. 1553 02:03:21,961 --> 02:03:23,881 We are not important. 1554 02:03:24,041 --> 02:03:25,561 I don't see... 1555 02:03:26,321 --> 02:03:29,161 I don't see life that way. 1556 02:03:30,721 --> 02:03:32,481 You just have to live life. 1557 02:03:33,641 --> 02:03:35,401 We all have been, we all are, 1558 02:03:35,561 --> 02:03:37,201 and we all will cease to be. 1559 02:03:41,801 --> 02:03:44,361 I think I was born 1560 02:03:45,681 --> 02:03:47,601 to give birth 1561 02:03:47,761 --> 02:03:50,161 to one or two children. 1562 02:03:50,681 --> 02:03:52,641 To feed them 1563 02:03:52,801 --> 02:03:55,361 from infancy 1564 02:03:55,521 --> 02:03:59,081 so that, when I'm old, 1565 02:03:59,241 --> 02:04:01,881 they take care of me, in return. 1566 02:04:03,481 --> 02:04:05,801 My biggest fear is... 1567 02:04:07,641 --> 02:04:09,521 is being nobody, 1568 02:04:09,681 --> 02:04:11,521 is being nothing... 1569 02:04:15,961 --> 02:04:17,841 Not knowing 1570 02:04:18,881 --> 02:04:21,761 why I'm here, what the point is, 1571 02:04:21,921 --> 02:04:23,761 if it has meaning. 1572 02:04:24,241 --> 02:04:27,121 To really not be any use whatsoever, 1573 02:04:27,281 --> 02:04:28,641 me, 1574 02:04:28,801 --> 02:04:30,761 just a man among men. 1575 02:04:32,241 --> 02:04:34,081 I have the impression 1576 02:04:34,321 --> 02:04:36,641 that there's a universal dynamic 1577 02:04:36,801 --> 02:04:39,001 and if I'm not part of it, 1578 02:04:40,161 --> 02:04:41,841 it will destroy me. 1579 02:04:44,801 --> 02:04:47,041 I want to be part 1580 02:04:47,201 --> 02:04:49,121 of the history of mankind. 1581 02:04:53,041 --> 02:04:55,721 Me being 15 with a life sentence, 1582 02:04:55,881 --> 02:04:58,161 what can be the meaning of my life? 1583 02:04:58,561 --> 02:05:00,721 That is a hard question. 1584 02:05:01,361 --> 02:05:03,721 I think the meaning of my life could be 1585 02:05:05,321 --> 02:05:07,961 happiness, making everything right. 1586 02:05:08,121 --> 02:05:10,681 Helping out young and older people. 1587 02:05:11,921 --> 02:05:14,041 Just help one another. 1588 02:05:16,361 --> 02:05:18,121 Stand for someone. 1589 02:05:18,921 --> 02:05:21,081 Just stay out of trouble, don't come to prison. 1590 02:05:21,241 --> 02:05:23,441 That ain't no meaning in life. 1591 02:05:23,601 --> 02:05:25,601 This ain't no place for nobody. 1592 02:05:27,201 --> 02:05:30,081 I don't know... Everybody has their own purpose. 1593 02:05:30,241 --> 02:05:32,441 I don't know what my purpose is. 1594 02:05:32,601 --> 02:05:36,401 I don't know about that question. 1595 02:05:41,361 --> 02:05:43,081 Sometimes, I think 1596 02:05:43,241 --> 02:05:46,081 of a phrase I heard as a boy, 1597 02:05:46,241 --> 02:05:48,681 a friend who said: 1598 02:05:50,241 --> 02:05:54,001 "Life is like carrying a message 1599 02:05:54,161 --> 02:05:56,721 "from the child you were 1600 02:05:56,881 --> 02:05:59,721 "to the old man you will be. 1601 02:05:59,881 --> 02:06:02,441 "You have to make sure that this message 1602 02:06:02,601 --> 02:06:04,801 "isn't lost along the way." 1603 02:06:05,641 --> 02:06:07,641 I often think of that, 1604 02:06:07,801 --> 02:06:10,001 because when I was little, 1605 02:06:10,161 --> 02:06:12,441 I used to imagine fine things, 1606 02:06:12,601 --> 02:06:15,361 to dream of a world without beggars 1607 02:06:15,521 --> 02:06:17,681 in which everyone was happy. 1608 02:06:21,081 --> 02:06:24,361 Simple, subtle things. 1609 02:06:24,521 --> 02:06:28,601 But you lose those things over the course of life. 1610 02:06:28,761 --> 02:06:30,961 You just work 1611 02:06:31,121 --> 02:06:33,761 to be able to buy things. 1612 02:06:33,921 --> 02:06:35,921 And you stop seeing the beggar, 1613 02:06:36,081 --> 02:06:37,921 you stop caring. 1614 02:06:38,081 --> 02:06:40,921 Where's the message of the child I once was? 1615 02:06:41,081 --> 02:06:44,481 Maybe the meaning of life 1616 02:06:44,641 --> 02:06:47,521 is making sure that this message 1617 02:06:47,961 --> 02:06:49,961 doesn't disappear. 1618 02:06:52,881 --> 02:06:54,641 I've already asked myself... 1619 02:07:01,841 --> 02:07:03,521 I've already asked myself 1620 02:07:03,681 --> 02:07:05,881 why I was on Earth. 1621 02:07:06,361 --> 02:07:08,081 I'm here... 1622 02:07:11,481 --> 02:07:14,601 to do what God 1623 02:07:15,241 --> 02:07:17,321 has planned for me. 1624 02:07:17,481 --> 02:07:19,641 Because on Earth, 1625 02:07:19,801 --> 02:07:23,001 everyone has a mission. 1626 02:07:23,801 --> 02:07:26,681 I have one, too, 1627 02:07:26,841 --> 02:07:29,961 but I don't know it yet. 1628 02:09:25,361 --> 02:09:27,801 This movie is dedicated to the thousands of people 1629 02:09:27,961 --> 02:09:31,961 who answered our questions with honesty, courage and kindness. 1630 02:09:32,121 --> 02:09:33,921 A huge thank you. 1631 02:09:35,201 --> 02:09:36,601 A special thank you also 1632 02:09:36,761 --> 02:09:39,761 to the Bettencourt Schueller Foundation and to its team 1633 02:09:39,921 --> 02:09:42,161 who made this project possible. 1634 02:09:42,881 --> 02:09:45,601 Mom and Dad, you must listen to me: 1635 02:09:45,761 --> 02:09:48,481 if you can, stop the drugs. 1636 02:09:48,641 --> 02:09:50,321 I've told you so many times 1637 02:09:50,481 --> 02:09:51,881 and I tell you again. 1638 02:09:52,041 --> 02:09:54,801 Stop the drugs. They're bad for you. 1639 02:09:54,961 --> 02:09:57,561 They're destroying you physically. 1640 02:09:57,721 --> 02:09:59,081 If you remember 1641 02:09:59,241 --> 02:10:01,321 that I'm your daughter, stop. 1642 02:10:01,481 --> 02:10:03,001 Do it for me. 1643 02:10:07,041 --> 02:10:08,921 I have a younger brother... 1644 02:10:09,081 --> 02:10:11,641 I have a little brother who died. 1645 02:10:11,801 --> 02:10:14,601 He left behind a 4-year-old girl. 1646 02:10:14,761 --> 02:10:16,081 Unfortunately, 1647 02:10:16,241 --> 02:10:18,801 the mother of the girl is dead, too. 1648 02:10:18,961 --> 02:10:21,521 So, I'd like to tell that brother 1649 02:10:21,681 --> 02:10:23,441 that he shouldn't worry. 1650 02:10:23,601 --> 02:10:27,921 I knew this brother's love for his daughter. 1651 02:10:28,601 --> 02:10:31,361 He should know that she is in good hands, 1652 02:10:31,521 --> 02:10:33,481 that I take very good care of her. 1653 02:10:34,681 --> 02:10:36,401 I'm a lady of the night 1654 02:10:36,561 --> 02:10:38,881 and I have a message for my parents. 1655 02:10:39,041 --> 02:10:41,001 Don't worry anymore. 1656 02:10:41,161 --> 02:10:43,041 It's OK now. 1657 02:10:43,201 --> 02:10:44,401 I can fulfill my mission. 1658 02:10:44,561 --> 02:10:47,201 I can look after my brothers and sisters. 1659 02:10:47,361 --> 02:10:49,521 They're at home and will study. 1660 02:10:49,681 --> 02:10:51,561 They'll complete their studies, 1661 02:10:51,721 --> 02:10:52,961 I promise. 1662 02:10:53,121 --> 02:10:55,761 I don't want them to have a hard life. 1663 02:10:55,921 --> 02:10:58,441 They must study for years. 1664 02:10:58,601 --> 02:10:59,921 It will make me happy, 1665 02:11:00,081 --> 02:11:02,121 because I wasn't so lucky. 1666 02:11:02,281 --> 02:11:04,321 They'll complete their studies. 1667 02:11:04,961 --> 02:11:06,481 I want them to study 1668 02:11:06,641 --> 02:11:08,321 as long as possible. 1669 02:11:08,481 --> 02:11:09,921 I don't have the intelligence 1670 02:11:10,081 --> 02:11:11,481 to do anything else, 1671 02:11:11,641 --> 02:11:13,761 but I want my brothers and sisters 1672 02:11:13,921 --> 02:11:15,241 to finish their studies. 1673 02:11:16,521 --> 02:11:17,681 There are two things 1674 02:11:17,841 --> 02:11:19,841 I'd like to tell you. 1675 02:11:21,041 --> 02:11:22,881 Don't forget who you are 1676 02:11:23,401 --> 02:11:24,761 and always smile. 1677 02:11:24,921 --> 02:11:26,321 Smiling is the only language 1678 02:11:26,481 --> 02:11:28,041 everyone understands. 1679 02:11:38,761 --> 02:11:40,481 You've brought up 1680 02:11:40,641 --> 02:11:43,601 a lot of things for me today. 1681 02:11:43,761 --> 02:11:46,161 You've made me feel important. 1682 02:11:46,321 --> 02:11:47,401 You've made me feel 1683 02:11:47,561 --> 02:11:49,961 that I have something to offer, 1684 02:11:50,921 --> 02:11:53,641 that I had a place to go. 1685 02:11:53,801 --> 02:11:54,761 You made me feel 1686 02:11:54,921 --> 02:11:57,401 like my stories were welcome. 1687 02:11:57,561 --> 02:11:59,481 And you made me feel happy. 1688 02:11:59,641 --> 02:12:01,961 I think people need to 1689 02:12:02,121 --> 02:12:04,961 feel that they have done something 1690 02:12:05,121 --> 02:12:06,401 while they've lived. 1691 02:12:06,561 --> 02:12:07,521 They need to feel 1692 02:12:07,681 --> 02:12:09,001 that they've contributed. 1693 02:12:09,161 --> 02:12:10,161 And today, 1694 02:12:10,321 --> 02:12:12,641 you made me feel like I contributed. 1695 02:12:12,801 --> 02:12:15,161 And I'm very grateful to you for that. 1696 02:12:15,321 --> 02:12:16,601 Thank you. 1697 02:12:19,001 --> 02:12:21,041 My message is that you are 1698 02:12:21,201 --> 02:12:22,841 welcome to my home. 1699 02:12:23,001 --> 02:12:24,521 Come to my home. 1700 02:12:24,681 --> 02:12:26,401 I invite you all! 1701 02:12:26,561 --> 02:12:27,801 Every tribe: 1702 02:12:27,961 --> 02:12:30,081 Ovatua, Ovahimba, 1703 02:12:30,241 --> 02:12:32,201 Ovambo, Ovangandjiera. 1704 02:12:32,361 --> 02:12:34,921 You're all welcome. 1705 02:12:36,801 --> 02:12:39,161 Today, in this world, 1706 02:12:41,161 --> 02:12:42,321 we hear 1707 02:12:42,481 --> 02:12:44,841 about people who make films. 1708 02:12:45,001 --> 02:12:46,681 We hear this kind of story, 1709 02:12:46,841 --> 02:12:48,241 but now... 1710 02:12:49,281 --> 02:12:51,281 that Ulla and Emmanuel are here, 1711 02:12:51,441 --> 02:12:53,441 that they're making a film, 1712 02:12:53,601 --> 02:12:56,241 everyone will see where we live, 1713 02:12:56,401 --> 02:12:58,321 in my village. 1714 02:12:58,481 --> 02:13:00,521 I am so happy. 1715 02:13:00,681 --> 02:13:03,041 Seeing more film-people coming here 1716 02:13:03,201 --> 02:13:04,721 would make me very happy. 1717 02:13:04,881 --> 02:13:06,881 The world will get to know us. 1718 02:13:07,041 --> 02:13:09,201 I don't know if they'll see me, 1719 02:13:09,361 --> 02:13:10,881 but I am very happy 1720 02:13:11,041 --> 02:13:12,641 to talk now 1721 02:13:12,801 --> 02:13:15,121 and to those who will come. 1722 02:13:15,281 --> 02:13:16,681 Tell them. 1723 02:13:20,081 --> 02:13:22,601 There's nothing to add. 1724 02:13:22,761 --> 02:13:24,441 We talked about peace. 1725 02:13:24,601 --> 02:13:27,401 We talked about everything. 1726 02:13:27,561 --> 02:13:29,481 We've finished, it's over. 1727 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:02,000 www.moviesubtitles.org 576 02:04:34,321 --> 02:04:36,641 that there's a universal dynamic 1728 02:04:36,801 --> 02:04:39,001 and if I'm not part of it, 1729 02:04:40,161 --> 02:04:41,841 it will destroy me. 1730 02:04:44,801 --> 02:04:47,041 I want to be part 1731 02:04:47,201 --> 02:04:49,121 of the history of mankind. 1732 02:04:53,041 --> 02:04:55,721 Me being 15 with a life sentence, 1733 02:04:55,881 --> 02:04:58,161 what can be the meaning of my life? 1734 02:04:58,561 --> 02:05:00,721 That is a hard question. 1735 02:05:01,361 --> 02:05:03,721 I think the meaning of my life could be 1736 02:05:05,321 --> 02:05:07,961 happiness, making everything right. 1737 02:05:08,121 --> 02:05:10,681 Helping out young and older people. 1738 02:05:11,921 --> 02:05:14,041 Just help one another. 1739 02:05:16,361 --> 02:05:18,121 Stand for someone. 1740 02:05:18,921 --> 02:05:21,081 Just stay out of trouble, don't come to prison. 1741 02:05:21,241 --> 02:05:23,441 That ain't no meaning in life. 1742 02:05:23,601 --> 02:05:25,601 This ain't no place for nobody. 1743 02:05:27,201 --> 02:05:30,081 I don't know... Everybody has their own purpose. 1744 02:05:30,241 --> 02:05:32,441 I don't know what my purpose is. 1745 02:05:32,601 --> 02:05:36,401 I don't know about that question. 1746 02:05:41,361 --> 02:05:43,081 Sometimes, I think 1747 02:05:43,241 --> 02:05:46,081 of a phrase I heard as a boy, 1748 02:05:46,241 --> 02:05:48,681 a friend who said: 1749 02:05:50,241 --> 02:05:54,001 "Life is like carrying a message 1750 02:05:54,161 --> 02:05:56,721 "from the child you were 1751 02:05:56,881 --> 02:05:59,721 "to the old man you will be. 1752 02:05:59,881 --> 02:06:02,441 "You have to make sure that this message 1753 02:06:02,601 --> 02:06:04,801 "isn't lost along the way." 1754 02:06:05,641 --> 02:06:07,641 I often think of that, 1755 02:06:07,801 --> 02:06:10,001 because when I was little, 1756 02:06:10,161 --> 02:06:12,441 I used to imagine fine things, 1757 02:06:12,601 --> 02:06:15,361 to dream of a world without beggars 1758 02:06:15,521 --> 02:06:17,681 in which everyone was happy. 1759 02:06:21,081 --> 02:06:24,361 Simple, subtle things. 1760 02:06:24,521 --> 02:06:28,601 But you lose those things over the course of life. 1761 02:06:28,761 --> 02:06:30,961 You just work 1762 02:06:31,121 --> 02:06:33,761 to be able to buy things. 1763 02:06:33,921 --> 02:06:35,921 And you stop seeing the beggar, 1764 02:06:36,081 --> 02:06:37,921 you stop caring. 1765 02:06:38,081 --> 02:06:40,921 Where's the message of the child I once was? 1766 02:06:41,081 --> 02:06:44,481 Maybe the meaning of life 1767 02:06:44,641 --> 02:06:47,521 is making sure that this message 1768 02:06:47,961 --> 02:06:49,961 doesn't disappear. 1769 02:06:52,881 --> 02:06:54,641 I've already asked myself... 1770 02:07:01,841 --> 02:07:03,521 I've already asked myself 1771 02:07:03,681 --> 02:07:05,881 why I was on Earth. 1772 02:07:06,361 --> 02:07:08,081 I'm here... 1773 02:07:11,481 --> 02:07:14,601 to do what God 1774 02:07:15,241 --> 02:07:17,321 has planned for me. 1775 02:07:17,481 --> 02:07:19,641 Because on Earth, 1776 02:07:19,801 --> 02:07:23,001 everyone has a mission. 1777 02:07:23,801 --> 02:07:26,681 I have one, too, 1778 02:07:26,841 --> 02:07:29,961 but I don't know it yet. 1779 02:09:25,361 --> 02:09:27,801 This movie is dedicated to the thousands of people 1780 02:09:27,961 --> 02:09:31,961 who answered our questions with honesty, courage and kindness. 1781 02:09:32,121 --> 02:09:33,921 A huge thank you. 1782 02:09:35,201 --> 02:09:36,601 A special thank you also 1783 02:09:36,761 --> 02:09:39,761 to the Bettencourt Schueller Foundation and to its team 1784 02:09:39,921 --> 02:09:42,161 who made this project possible. 1785 02:09:42,881 --> 02:09:45,601 Mom and Dad, you must listen to me: 1786 02:09:45,761 --> 02:09:48,481 if you can, stop the drugs. 1787 02:09:48,641 --> 02:09:50,321 I've told you so many times 1788 02:09:50,481 --> 02:09:51,881 and I tell you again. 1789 02:09:52,041 --> 02:09:54,801 Stop the drugs. They're bad for you. 1790 02:09:54,961 --> 02:09:57,561 They're destroying you physically. 1791 02:09:57,721 --> 02:09:59,081 If you remember 1792 02:09:59,241 --> 02:10:01,321 that I'm your daughter, stop. 1793 02:10:01,481 --> 02:10:03,001 Do it for me. 1794 02:10:07,041 --> 02:10:08,921 I have a younger brother... 1795 02:10:09,081 --> 02:10:11,641 I have a little brother who died. 1796 02:10:11,801 --> 02:10:14,601 He left behind a 4-year-old girl. 1797 02:10:14,761 --> 02:10:16,081 Unfortunately, 1798 02:10:16,241 --> 02:10:18,801 the mother of the girl is dead, too. 1799 02:10:18,961 --> 02:10:21,521 So, I'd like to tell that brother 1800 02:10:21,681 --> 02:10:23,441 that he shouldn't worry. 1801 02:10:23,601 --> 02:10:27,921 I knew this brother's love for his d 122887

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