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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,470 --> 00:00:08,330 - Hi I'm certainly glad you could join me today. 2 00:00:08,330 --> 00:00:10,126 You ready to do another fantastic painting with me? 3 00:00:16,780 --> 00:00:19,360 - You recognize his iconic image. 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,691 - Who's this? 5 00:00:20,691 --> 00:00:22,270 This is Bob Ross. 6 00:00:22,270 --> 00:00:23,720 This is the most famous painter 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,330 in the history of the universe. 8 00:00:25,330 --> 00:00:27,090 - Signature phrases. 9 00:00:27,090 --> 00:00:29,320 - A happy little cloud that floats around it, 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,950 just has fun all day. 11 00:00:30,950 --> 00:00:32,630 - And soothing voice. 12 00:00:32,630 --> 00:00:34,520 - Anything that you want you can build here. 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,700 This is your world. 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,150 - Bob Ross is one of public 15 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:43,330 television's most beloved personalities. 16 00:00:43,330 --> 00:00:45,140 - The Bob you see on the show, 17 00:00:45,140 --> 00:00:47,890 is the Bob that we all knew even behind the scenes. 18 00:00:47,890 --> 00:00:51,910 - I used to watch Bob Ross all the time. 19 00:00:51,910 --> 00:00:53,910 The thing I remember was his positivity. 20 00:00:55,460 --> 00:00:57,130 He made you want to do that. 21 00:00:57,130 --> 00:00:58,820 - He wasn't only a painter, he was 22 00:00:58,820 --> 00:01:01,270 an entertainer in his own right, 23 00:01:02,300 --> 00:01:06,680 without any flash, his paintings spoke for him 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,010 and he kind of took you by the hand and 25 00:01:10,010 --> 00:01:11,800 led you along the way. 26 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,310 - I talk to only one person when I'm filming 27 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:17,870 and I'm really crazy about that person. 28 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:18,960 - Some watched for his 29 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:21,080 easy to learn painting technique. 30 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,140 - When I watch his method, I go it is, 31 00:01:24,140 --> 00:01:26,140 wow how does he do that? 32 00:01:26,140 --> 00:01:28,430 It's amazing and 33 00:01:28,430 --> 00:01:30,170 he makes it look incredibly easy, 34 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:31,940 but the interesting thing is that when 35 00:01:31,940 --> 00:01:35,580 people actually try to do it, they have success. 36 00:01:35,580 --> 00:01:37,790 - Once you have the technique down, 37 00:01:37,790 --> 00:01:39,320 all you need is a dream in your heart 38 00:01:39,320 --> 00:01:41,360 and a desire to put it on canvas. 39 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,350 - And some we're just 40 00:01:42,350 --> 00:01:45,100 captivated by his calming demeanor. 41 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:47,240 - And I think maybe that's part of the magic. 42 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,830 I think his voice was part of it, his presence, 43 00:01:49,830 --> 00:01:52,480 his manner, his tone. 44 00:01:53,530 --> 00:01:55,600 I think his sincerity came across, 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,460 and I think people relate to that, 46 00:01:57,460 --> 00:01:59,010 they still relate to that. 47 00:01:59,010 --> 00:02:02,350 - Every legend has an intangible 48 00:02:03,450 --> 00:02:05,170 aura or something and I just imagine 49 00:02:05,170 --> 00:02:07,610 whenever you're encompass of greatness 50 00:02:07,610 --> 00:02:09,680 you know people just want to be around it. 51 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:14,650 - Bob Ross is public 52 00:02:14,650 --> 00:02:17,380 television's most recognizable artist. 53 00:02:17,380 --> 00:02:20,200 - Everybody knows Bob Ross and especially his hair. 54 00:02:21,380 --> 00:02:23,430 - This is the story of a young painter 55 00:02:23,430 --> 00:02:26,770 with a dream to share the joy of painting with everyone. 56 00:02:26,770 --> 00:02:29,740 - My father, he spent most of his time 57 00:02:29,740 --> 00:02:33,440 when he came home from work, watching public television. 58 00:02:34,610 --> 00:02:37,630 He would have us watch Bob Ross, 59 00:02:37,630 --> 00:02:39,370 where we would learn how to paint 60 00:02:39,370 --> 00:02:41,770 and learn how to use our imagination. 61 00:02:41,770 --> 00:02:43,620 - I'm sure the word magic gets used a lot 62 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:45,660 but I mean it really is like magic. 63 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:49,160 I mean, he'd mix up this color and 64 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,370 I'm gonna take a little bit of this yellow 65 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:52,024 and stick it in this black, and you think 66 00:02:52,024 --> 00:02:53,024 what, right. 67 00:02:53,900 --> 00:02:55,850 That's so counterintuitive, and then 68 00:02:55,850 --> 00:02:59,664 takes like a palette knife and gets a little thing and 69 00:02:59,664 --> 00:03:01,360 and there's a tree, 70 00:03:02,570 --> 00:03:04,650 and it's like how'd you do that? 71 00:03:04,650 --> 00:03:07,870 - People continually say I can't draw a straight line, 72 00:03:07,870 --> 00:03:11,080 I don't have the talent, Bob, to do what you're doing. 73 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,530 That's baloney. 74 00:03:12,530 --> 00:03:15,310 Talent is a pursued interest. 75 00:03:15,310 --> 00:03:16,570 In other words, anything that you're 76 00:03:16,570 --> 00:03:19,260 willing to practice, you can do. 77 00:03:19,260 --> 00:03:22,218 - This is Bob Ross, the happy painter. 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,270 But before Bob became one of the 79 00:03:35,270 --> 00:03:38,100 most popular artists on television, 80 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:39,870 Robert Norman Ross was just a 81 00:03:39,870 --> 00:03:42,280 boy from Daytona Beach, Florida. 82 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,440 He was born on October 29, 1942 83 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,710 and grew up in the Orlando area. 84 00:03:47,710 --> 00:03:49,320 Each of Bob's parents helped 85 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,010 shape his life in critical ways. 86 00:03:52,010 --> 00:03:54,270 His father Jack was a builder. 87 00:03:54,270 --> 00:03:55,750 - I used to be a carpenter years ago. 88 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:58,650 My father was a carpenter and he taught me that trade. 89 00:03:59,773 --> 00:04:00,810 I tell you what, it isn't that 90 00:04:00,810 --> 00:04:03,290 easy to make a shed on a barn. 91 00:04:03,290 --> 00:04:06,280 - He lost a finger helping his father. 92 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,580 When there's a pallet shot you can see the missing finger, 93 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:14,160 but because it was on his left hand and not his right hand, 94 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,140 it didn't affect his ability to hold the brush. 95 00:04:17,140 --> 00:04:19,360 - Lender brushes are very very soft. 96 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,400 My father used to say their tender as a mother's love 97 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,350 and in my case that was certainly true. 98 00:04:26,590 --> 00:04:27,820 I'm very prejudiced but I think I 99 00:04:27,820 --> 00:04:30,260 had the greatest mother there was. 100 00:04:30,260 --> 00:04:34,030 - She had the largest influence on him. 101 00:04:34,030 --> 00:04:39,030 She's the one who taught him the love of wildlife. 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,840 Second to painting or maybe even more than painting, 103 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,470 Bob loved wildlife. 104 00:04:45,517 --> 00:04:46,700 - I think when I was a kid I must 105 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:49,290 have had every kind of pet imaginable. 106 00:04:49,290 --> 00:04:52,400 I lived in Florida so I had access to a lot of creatures, 107 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,640 but I had a pet snake. 108 00:04:55,220 --> 00:04:56,480 I mean he got out of the cage and was 109 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,930 lost in a house for a long time. 110 00:04:58,930 --> 00:05:02,060 My mother got up and went to the bathroom one night, 111 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:03,720 he was in there and scared her. 112 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,090 - But Bob's childhood wasn't all that easy. 113 00:05:11,090 --> 00:05:14,190 - Bob says that they were not wealthy 114 00:05:14,190 --> 00:05:18,700 and really I think he viewed these wild animals, 115 00:05:18,700 --> 00:05:21,810 anything he could get his hands on 116 00:05:21,810 --> 00:05:24,740 as toys and entertainment. 117 00:05:24,740 --> 00:05:25,670 - His mother and father 118 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:27,700 separated when Bob was very young. 119 00:05:28,540 --> 00:05:31,200 His mother remarried briefly and had another son, 120 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,510 Bob's brother Jim. 121 00:05:32,510 --> 00:05:34,020 - When I was a kid I used to sit around and 122 00:05:34,020 --> 00:05:36,590 you know my brother and I we'd look at clouds 123 00:05:36,590 --> 00:05:38,180 and we'd pick out all kind of shapes, 124 00:05:38,180 --> 00:05:40,570 we'd see the mean old which or the 125 00:05:40,570 --> 00:05:42,810 or the Candy Man or whatever. 126 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:43,840 - 20 years later, 127 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:46,670 Bob's mom married his dad again, 128 00:05:46,670 --> 00:05:48,660 but they didn't have long together. 129 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:51,280 Bob's father died soon after they remarried. 130 00:05:53,290 --> 00:05:55,530 School was also tough for Bob. 131 00:05:55,530 --> 00:05:57,100 - Do these little X's, see? 132 00:05:58,280 --> 00:05:59,113 Little X's. 133 00:06:00,910 --> 00:06:02,560 There, that's just the way the teacher 134 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,410 used to grade my paper in school. 135 00:06:04,410 --> 00:06:06,270 She just run across it and go. 136 00:06:12,530 --> 00:06:14,010 - When he was just 18 years, 137 00:06:14,010 --> 00:06:16,300 old Bob joined the Air force. 138 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:19,000 - I spent half my life in the military 139 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,450 and I used to come home, take off my little soldier hat, 140 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,000 put on my painter's hat. 141 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,860 - He got married and had a son, Steven. 142 00:06:27,860 --> 00:06:30,420 - He has been painting I think since he was born. 143 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,640 He was about 12 years old before he 144 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,530 realized everybody didn't paint. 145 00:06:36,530 --> 00:06:37,590 - But Bob soon found 146 00:06:37,590 --> 00:06:39,780 himself raising a son on his own. 147 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,550 His first marriage didn't last long. 148 00:06:43,550 --> 00:06:46,130 Bob and his son had a close relationship 149 00:06:46,130 --> 00:06:49,900 and years later after The Joy of Painting series took off, 150 00:06:49,900 --> 00:06:52,340 Steve would occasionally appear on the program 151 00:06:52,340 --> 00:06:56,010 and eventually became a certified Ross instructor, himself. 152 00:06:56,010 --> 00:06:57,660 - Steve travels all over the country, 153 00:06:57,660 --> 00:06:59,540 teaching hundreds and hundreds of people 154 00:06:59,540 --> 00:07:01,190 the joy of painting and I've asked him 155 00:07:01,190 --> 00:07:02,520 to come in today and show you what 156 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,780 he can do in just a few minutes. 157 00:07:03,780 --> 00:07:05,220 So I'm gonna turn it over to Steve 158 00:07:05,220 --> 00:07:06,460 and I'll be back at the end of the show. 159 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:07,470 Steve? 160 00:07:07,470 --> 00:07:08,303 - Thanks a lot, dad. 161 00:07:08,303 --> 00:07:09,790 - Steve was incredibly talented. 162 00:07:09,790 --> 00:07:12,360 Bob said he talks better than I do 163 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,320 and he paints better than I do, 164 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,560 but Steve never was someone we could convince 165 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,840 to come on and work with the show, 166 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,090 and I always regretted that because 167 00:07:21,090 --> 00:07:23,320 I thought he had enormous talent. 168 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,740 - Bob and Steve lived in Florida 169 00:07:24,740 --> 00:07:26,836 for several years until the military transferred them 170 00:07:26,836 --> 00:07:30,190 to Alaska when Steve was a young boy. 171 00:07:30,190 --> 00:07:32,994 - I had been born and raised in Florida, 172 00:07:32,994 --> 00:07:35,880 and was 21 years old before I ever saw snow. 173 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,660 - Bob remarried and settled down 174 00:07:37,660 --> 00:07:41,210 near Fairbanks, Alaska with his new wife, Jane. 175 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:43,460 She was a civilian worker with the Air Force. 176 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,770 For more than a decade Bob worked mainly 177 00:07:46,770 --> 00:07:50,150 as a medical records technician at the air base hospital 178 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:52,490 and cultivated his love of painting. 179 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:55,450 He was inspired by the snow capped 180 00:07:55,450 --> 00:07:57,350 mountains that surrounded him, 181 00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:59,395 and sold his paintings to tourists. 182 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,170 - He was a part time bartender, 183 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:10,450 and he was painting gold pans in Alaska 184 00:08:10,450 --> 00:08:13,740 and selling them in the bar to make money. 185 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:14,680 - One day the tavern's 186 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,900 television was tuned to a PBS station. 187 00:08:17,900 --> 00:08:20,570 Bob looked up and saw a painting show 188 00:08:20,570 --> 00:08:23,890 hosted by a German man, named Bill Alexander. 189 00:08:23,890 --> 00:08:25,520 - How long can you hide a dream? 190 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,843 How long can you have creative power? 191 00:08:27,843 --> 00:08:30,630 You need that almighty creative power. 192 00:08:30,630 --> 00:08:32,260 - Alexander was painting scenery 193 00:08:32,260 --> 00:08:35,170 that Bob was familiar with, and he was using a 194 00:08:35,170 --> 00:08:38,770 centuries old painting method called alla prima, 195 00:08:38,770 --> 00:08:42,160 which means direct painting or all at once. 196 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,210 The basic premise is that a thin paint 197 00:08:44,210 --> 00:08:46,270 will stick to a thicker paint. 198 00:08:46,270 --> 00:08:49,240 Alexander called it the wet on wet technique. 199 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,600 - Years ago Bill taught me this fantastic technique 200 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,330 and I feel as though he gave me a precious gift, 201 00:08:55,330 --> 00:08:57,950 and I'd like to share that gift with you. 202 00:08:57,950 --> 00:09:00,910 - This method allows you to layer colors of paint 203 00:09:00,910 --> 00:09:05,290 on top of one another and blend them right on the canvas. 204 00:09:05,290 --> 00:09:07,240 Traditional oil painting requires you to 205 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,640 wait for each application to dry before adding a new color, 206 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,470 but the wet on wet technique is more user friendly 207 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:17,190 because it allows you to paint very quickly 208 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:20,330 and if you make a mistake you can just blend it away. 209 00:09:20,330 --> 00:09:23,720 - Because as you know we don't make mistakes. 210 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,760 In our world we only have happy accidents 211 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,730 and very quickly, very quickly you learn to 212 00:09:29,730 --> 00:09:32,100 work with anything that happens on this canvas. 213 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:32,933 Anything. 214 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:38,730 - This painting style was 215 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:40,660 exactly what Bob was looking for. 216 00:09:40,660 --> 00:09:43,820 - I remember when he was in the Air Force up in Alaska. 217 00:09:43,820 --> 00:09:47,310 We went up there and he was excited about 218 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,840 watching someone on television and he says, 219 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,470 "That's what I want. 220 00:09:52,470 --> 00:09:56,200 "I want to paint before the bubble bursts. 221 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,100 "I want to get my painting on the canvas 222 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:01,880 "before I lose my idea." 223 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,130 - About 1975 I saw Alexander on television 224 00:10:05,130 --> 00:10:08,300 and like millions of other people I fell in love with him, 225 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:10,450 and it took me about a year to find him. 226 00:10:10,450 --> 00:10:14,540 I studied with Bill and when I retired from the military 227 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:16,850 they offered me a position with his Magic Art Company 228 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:18,920 as a traveling art instructor. 229 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,010 - Bob's wife Jane and his son Steve 230 00:10:21,010 --> 00:10:23,530 stayed in Alaska for a couple more years 231 00:10:23,530 --> 00:10:25,770 until Jane was eligible for retirement. 232 00:10:25,770 --> 00:10:30,770 - So she allowed Bob to leave Alaska with $1,000 233 00:10:31,090 --> 00:10:32,880 and told him to either go out and 234 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,330 make his fortune or come back home. 235 00:10:35,330 --> 00:10:38,750 He promised her, "I'll go and do this, 236 00:10:38,750 --> 00:10:41,130 "if it doesn't work I'll come back home 237 00:10:41,130 --> 00:10:45,580 "and do domestic stuff and be a good husband and father." 238 00:10:45,580 --> 00:10:48,860 And so she stayed in Alaska and waited. 239 00:10:48,860 --> 00:10:50,970 - Although he was leaving the land of snow 240 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:54,950 covered mountains, they left an indelible mark on Bob. 241 00:10:57,460 --> 00:10:59,610 - I lived in Alaska for about a dozen years 242 00:11:01,391 --> 00:11:04,490 and it has some of the most beautiful 243 00:11:04,490 --> 00:11:06,640 mountain scenery there that I've ever seen. 244 00:11:08,070 --> 00:11:10,400 Absolutely gorgeous. 245 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,450 - That breathtaking scenery 246 00:11:12,450 --> 00:11:15,690 would serve as his inspiration for the rest of his life 247 00:11:15,690 --> 00:11:19,010 and would eventually become Bob's signature subject. 248 00:11:19,010 --> 00:11:21,420 He took that thousand dollars and set out 249 00:11:21,420 --> 00:11:24,140 to try and spread the Joy of Painting. 250 00:11:31,070 --> 00:11:32,640 Bob was teaching Bill Alexander 251 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,980 classes all over the country. 252 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:38,240 He happened to land one in his native state of Florida 253 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,590 and that's how he met Annette Kowalski, 254 00:11:40,590 --> 00:11:42,800 in one of his painting workshops, 255 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,130 and Bob's life would never be the same. 256 00:11:46,170 --> 00:11:51,170 - I had just lost a child and was still in mourning. 257 00:11:51,740 --> 00:11:53,700 My husband would have done anything 258 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:56,820 to pacify me and make me happy. 259 00:11:56,820 --> 00:12:01,820 So he said, "Okay, I'll drive you to Florida, 260 00:12:03,020 --> 00:12:04,780 "which is the only place you can 261 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:07,690 "take a Bill Alexander class." 262 00:12:07,690 --> 00:12:11,280 So I called the Alexander Company in Oregon 263 00:12:12,690 --> 00:12:16,660 and they said, "Yes, we have some classes in February." 264 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,950 Unfortunately Bill Alexander has retired 265 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:25,780 and there's this guy named Bob Ross 266 00:12:25,780 --> 00:12:30,780 who's teaching his classes and I was so unhappy. 267 00:12:32,270 --> 00:12:33,750 - Annette enrolled in a seminar 268 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:36,400 that was five full days of painting. 269 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,200 - During that five days, I became aware 270 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:46,100 of an effect that Bob was having on these students. 271 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,760 Very calming effect, very quiet. 272 00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:54,870 I had never seen anything like it I was mesmerized by him. 273 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:57,460 - She kept insisting that there was some 274 00:12:57,460 --> 00:13:01,320 something there that had to be packaged or bottled 275 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,190 and that's what I was hearing almost every single night 276 00:13:04,190 --> 00:13:07,720 as we had dinner and I think that was the driving force. 277 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:08,840 - So the last day that we 278 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,780 were in Florida on a Friday night, 279 00:13:11,780 --> 00:13:13,950 we went to a local hamburger joint 280 00:13:13,950 --> 00:13:18,840 and we invited Bob to join us, and he agreed. 281 00:13:20,140 --> 00:13:23,860 I said to Bob, "I sure wish you would come 282 00:13:23,860 --> 00:13:27,370 "to Washington DC and teach a class." 283 00:13:28,650 --> 00:13:33,650 So he said, "Okay, okay. I'll do that." 284 00:13:34,170 --> 00:13:35,900 - So Bob quit working for the 285 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:39,040 Alexander Magic Company and formed a partnership 286 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,830 with Walt and Annette Kowalski, 287 00:13:40,830 --> 00:13:43,480 who were living in Northern Virginia. 288 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,970 Teaching their own painting classes sounded like a good idea 289 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:49,670 but getting people to enroll wasn't easy. 290 00:13:49,670 --> 00:13:51,870 No one had ever heard of Bob Ross. 291 00:13:51,870 --> 00:13:54,340 - We tried to get Bob into a shopping mall 292 00:13:54,340 --> 00:13:58,060 and demonstrate and in turn try to recruit students 293 00:13:58,060 --> 00:14:00,910 for the classes that would occur maybe three days later. 294 00:14:00,910 --> 00:14:03,020 - We didn't have much success, 295 00:14:03,020 --> 00:14:05,890 even though we ran expensive newspaper ads 296 00:14:05,890 --> 00:14:10,230 and paying all the salary, and no students. 297 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:11,460 - They thought maybe the classes 298 00:14:11,460 --> 00:14:12,920 weren't filling up because people 299 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,640 were working during the day. 300 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,180 So Bob decided to offer an evening class. 301 00:14:19,010 --> 00:14:21,940 - One man came to our evening class, 302 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:24,870 and I said, "Bob we're not gonna 303 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:27,220 "stay here teach this one man." 304 00:14:27,220 --> 00:14:28,720 And he said, "Yes." 305 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,420 And at the end of the class the man said, 306 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:34,610 "I'm so impressed with you. 307 00:14:34,610 --> 00:14:37,080 "The idea that Bob would take the time 308 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,020 "to teach just me to paint, 309 00:14:41,020 --> 00:14:45,360 "I'd like to make you a proposition. 310 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,310 "I'm a business man," which was his 311 00:14:47,310 --> 00:14:49,150 way of saying I have a lot of money. 312 00:14:51,380 --> 00:14:55,300 "I would like to offer you a million dollars," 313 00:14:55,300 --> 00:15:00,300 and in return he wants 40% of what we do 314 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,940 for the rest of our lives. 315 00:15:02,810 --> 00:15:04,370 - They turned down that offer 316 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:08,260 and decided to keep pursuing their dream on their own terms, 317 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:11,880 teaching painting classes in art stores and shopping malls, 318 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,600 but they had meager attendance and mounting expenses. 319 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,720 One of the ways Bob tried to save money 320 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,120 was by getting his straight hair permed. 321 00:15:21,940 --> 00:15:25,102 - He thought that if he got his hair permed 322 00:15:25,102 --> 00:15:27,840 he wouldn't have to pay for haircuts, 323 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,260 and he could save the thousand dollars Jane had given him. 324 00:15:31,260 --> 00:15:33,060 - He was the best man in our wedding 325 00:15:34,030 --> 00:15:37,610 and one day a number of years later 326 00:15:37,610 --> 00:15:41,580 my kids were looking through our photo album. 327 00:15:41,580 --> 00:15:46,210 They kept saying who is this man in these wedding pictures? 328 00:15:46,210 --> 00:15:48,580 I said, "Well you know who that is." 329 00:15:48,580 --> 00:15:51,000 I said, "Well that's uncle Robert." 330 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,430 They said, "Nah." 331 00:15:54,930 --> 00:15:57,100 And I said, "Yes, it is." 332 00:15:57,100 --> 00:15:59,930 And they said, "Well he don't have curly hair here. 333 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,490 I said, "That came later." 334 00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:07,230 - Probably one of the most important 335 00:16:07,230 --> 00:16:09,470 things Bob said to me was, 336 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,200 "If you do what you love, the money will come. 337 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,710 "Don't think about money, 338 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:19,020 "just do what you like." 339 00:16:19,020 --> 00:16:21,750 - To me the first step of accomplishing anything 340 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:23,580 is to believe that you can do it. 341 00:16:23,580 --> 00:16:25,190 - But they needed a next move, 342 00:16:25,190 --> 00:16:27,410 a turn in the right direction. 343 00:16:27,410 --> 00:16:29,600 So Annette called Bill Alexander 344 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,140 and asked him to make a commercial 345 00:16:31,140 --> 00:16:33,320 with Bob promoting his classes. 346 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,470 I hand over that almighty brush to our mighty man, Bob. 347 00:16:37,470 --> 00:16:38,400 - Thank you very much, Bill. 348 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,540 We've had so many cards requesting classes in this area that 349 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:43,560 we've decided to set one up here and 350 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,340 we will have a class going in the near future. 351 00:16:45,340 --> 00:16:48,190 We'll produce some almighty painters. 352 00:16:48,190 --> 00:16:49,210 - But the commercial wasn't 353 00:16:49,210 --> 00:16:51,850 recorded on a standard size tape. 354 00:16:51,850 --> 00:16:53,730 It needed to be converted to a format 355 00:16:53,730 --> 00:16:55,950 that television stations could air. 356 00:16:55,950 --> 00:16:57,630 So they took the commercial to their local 357 00:16:57,630 --> 00:17:01,970 public television station in Northern Virginia, WNVC. 358 00:17:01,970 --> 00:17:05,260 - When they saw Bob painting on this tape, 359 00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:08,330 they got very excited and they came to us 360 00:17:08,330 --> 00:17:13,330 and said, "Wow this guy is wonderful. 361 00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:17,170 "Would you agree to do a television series?" 362 00:17:18,392 --> 00:17:20,540 And we said would we ever. 363 00:17:21,580 --> 00:17:22,820 - They came up with the idea for a 364 00:17:22,820 --> 00:17:26,180 show and called it The Joy of Painting with Bob Ross. 365 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,800 - Hi, I'm Bob Ross and for the next 13 weeks 366 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,960 I'll be your host as we experience The Joy of Painting. 367 00:17:35,780 --> 00:17:37,290 - At the beginning of the show, 368 00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:39,710 Bob would start with a blank canvas 369 00:17:39,710 --> 00:17:42,320 and finish less than a half hour later 370 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,610 with a completed oil painting. 371 00:17:44,610 --> 00:17:46,230 - Bob told me that he 372 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:48,520 went through every brush stroke 373 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,570 in his head when he was in bed at night 374 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:54,500 of how he would execute that painting on TV. 375 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:56,760 - Every element of the show was thought out, 376 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,940 from Bob's standard long sleeved dress shirt and jeans 377 00:17:59,940 --> 00:18:02,140 to the soothing tone of his voice. 378 00:18:02,140 --> 00:18:05,150 - He said, "Annette, these television 379 00:18:05,150 --> 00:18:07,740 "programs could go on for years." 380 00:18:07,740 --> 00:18:08,800 Little did he know. 381 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,410 "I want to be sure and wear something 382 00:18:12,410 --> 00:18:15,870 "on television that looks as good 30 years 383 00:18:15,870 --> 00:18:18,110 "from now as it does now." 384 00:18:18,110 --> 00:18:21,470 I think the hair he was a little sorry about, 385 00:18:21,470 --> 00:18:23,580 and he couldn't change that because 386 00:18:23,580 --> 00:18:25,750 we had made a logo out of it. 387 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:29,430 - He hated his hair but it was his trademark 388 00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:34,430 and he had to do it, and it really really bothered him. 389 00:18:34,970 --> 00:18:36,870 - I talked to him about it a couple of times 390 00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:38,600 and said you know, "Have you thought 391 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,180 "about changing your hair?" 392 00:18:40,180 --> 00:18:41,710 And he said, "No, this is my trademark," 393 00:18:41,710 --> 00:18:45,310 and he had decided that's what he would look like 394 00:18:46,523 --> 00:18:47,500 and people loved it. 395 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:48,800 - What a signature look. 396 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,640 Yeah, I mean, it's like fantastic. 397 00:18:58,860 --> 00:19:02,232 - Even the simplicity of the set was no accident. 398 00:19:02,232 --> 00:19:05,550 - It was just a black curtain environment. 399 00:19:05,550 --> 00:19:08,770 Bob and his easel, three cameras. 400 00:19:08,770 --> 00:19:11,060 I ran the camera that Bob talked to. 401 00:19:11,060 --> 00:19:12,973 - Richard's been with me 402 00:19:12,973 --> 00:19:15,050 since the first series 403 00:19:15,050 --> 00:19:17,440 and as you can see Richard has finally got smart 404 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,320 and he now wears a raincoat. 405 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,780 He got tired of all his clothes being painted. 406 00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:25,430 - Bob's original idea was to have this elaborate set 407 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:28,000 that looked like a trapper's long cabin, whatever, 408 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,310 and this was the original intent, 409 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:32,710 but it finally dawned on Bob that 410 00:19:32,710 --> 00:19:37,020 he would not create the intimacy with the viewer 411 00:19:37,020 --> 00:19:39,100 with all of that in the background. 412 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:41,020 - He liked the intimacy of the small space 413 00:19:41,020 --> 00:19:45,660 and it allowed him to feel the kind of intimacy 414 00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:50,660 and to sound intimate and be intimate with us, the audience. 415 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:52,750 - He said he pretends 416 00:19:52,750 --> 00:19:56,400 like he's talking to one woman in bed. 417 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,940 - I talk to only one person when I'm filming, 418 00:19:58,940 --> 00:20:01,820 and I'm really crazy about that person. 419 00:20:03,730 --> 00:20:06,820 It's a one on one situation that I think people realize that 420 00:20:06,820 --> 00:20:08,710 and they do feel that they know me 421 00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:10,110 and I feel that I know them. 422 00:20:13,180 --> 00:20:15,280 - Bob wanted to publish a how to book 423 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,730 to go along with The Joy of Painting program. 424 00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:22,730 - WNVC said, "I'm sorry we can't publish the book, 425 00:20:22,860 --> 00:20:25,770 "if you want a book you're gonna have to publish it," 426 00:20:25,770 --> 00:20:30,000 and it was going to cost thirty thousand dollars. 427 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,000 So Walt mortgaged our house 428 00:20:35,180 --> 00:20:39,840 and we published Bob's first book. 429 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,830 - The book had the same step by step 430 00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:44,140 approach of his television program. 431 00:20:44,140 --> 00:20:45,850 They would go on to produce a book for 432 00:20:45,850 --> 00:20:48,500 every series of The Joy of Painting, 433 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:50,360 and Bob would dedicate each one to 434 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,080 someone meaningful in his life. 435 00:20:59,710 --> 00:21:03,120 - Bob gets all the credit for these books. 436 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:08,120 After he filmed a painting in front of the cameras, 437 00:21:08,350 --> 00:21:10,940 we would then go back home and 438 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:13,180 he would repaint that painting, 439 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,980 and I would stand behind Bob with 440 00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:21,980 my Canon 35 millimeter camera and he would make me 441 00:21:22,820 --> 00:21:27,790 take about 50 photographs, the whole time he was painting, 442 00:21:27,790 --> 00:21:30,330 and those were the how to photos 443 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:32,100 that he wanted in that book. 444 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:37,840 - Series one aired on many public 445 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,300 television stations on the East Coast 446 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:42,350 but the audience was small. 447 00:21:42,350 --> 00:21:44,140 - And the time you sit around worrying about it 448 00:21:44,140 --> 00:21:45,920 and trying to plan a painting you could 449 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,090 have completed a painting already. 450 00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:50,070 - And the quality of the audio and video 451 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:53,640 was so poor that the first series of The Joy of Painting 452 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,450 was never aired again, and the book that 453 00:21:56,450 --> 00:21:59,260 goes along with it is a rare find. 454 00:21:59,260 --> 00:22:02,310 The partnership with WNBC dissolved. 455 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:04,170 - I think we'll call that finished 456 00:22:04,170 --> 00:22:07,000 and I want to thank you very very much for watching us. 457 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,970 I hope to see you again in the near future. 458 00:22:08,970 --> 00:22:09,910 - Bob would have to look 459 00:22:09,910 --> 00:22:12,860 for a new home on public television. 460 00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:15,890 With series one of The Joy of Painting under his belt, 461 00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:18,130 Bob forged ahead teaching painting classes 462 00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:20,360 across the country and looking for a new 463 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:22,580 television station to partner with. 464 00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:27,580 - Our dream was to move this inland to the Midwest. 465 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:30,810 Walt was tracking where Bill Alexander's 466 00:22:30,810 --> 00:22:32,710 program was popular. 467 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:34,420 Those were the cities that we 468 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:37,550 wanted to hit with our classes. 469 00:22:37,550 --> 00:22:40,830 Phil Donahue was very big in those days 470 00:22:40,830 --> 00:22:43,430 and he was coming out of Chicago. 471 00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:47,530 We wanted to run commercials on the Phil Donahue Show, 472 00:22:47,530 --> 00:22:50,000 but where would we get a commercial? 473 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,000 - Once again he turned to public television. 474 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,900 This time in Muncie, Indiana, 475 00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:57,850 just across the state line from Chicago. 476 00:22:57,850 --> 00:23:02,270 - In 1981 funding for Public Television got really bad 477 00:23:02,270 --> 00:23:04,440 and a committee was formed in Congress 478 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,220 called The Temporary Committee For Alternate Funding, 479 00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:10,190 we called it TCAF, and out of that committee 480 00:23:10,190 --> 00:23:13,850 there became a legislation that allowed for 481 00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:17,070 10 public television stations to actually sell commercials. 482 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,130 WIPB was one of those stations. 483 00:23:21,130 --> 00:23:23,560 Well I was sitting in my office which happened 484 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,290 to be the upstairs bedroom of this television 485 00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:29,530 studio which was an old house, 486 00:23:29,530 --> 00:23:33,770 I look out the window and this VW bus pulls in the driveway 487 00:23:34,670 --> 00:23:38,830 and we're thinking okay and this bushy haired man gets out 488 00:23:38,830 --> 00:23:42,510 and this lady with him and they come walking up to the door. 489 00:23:42,510 --> 00:23:44,840 He says, "Well hi. 490 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,210 "My name's Bob Ross and we're doing a demonstration 491 00:23:48,210 --> 00:23:51,470 "and some classes at your mall down the street, 492 00:23:51,470 --> 00:23:54,690 "and was wondering if you could give any publicity to us?" 493 00:23:54,690 --> 00:23:56,790 And I looked at our production manager and I said, 494 00:23:56,790 --> 00:23:58,840 "Have we got a deal for you." 495 00:24:01,870 --> 00:24:03,650 - WIPB be produced a commercial 496 00:24:03,650 --> 00:24:05,650 promoting Bob's painting classes 497 00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:09,210 and aired it before and after Bill Alexandra's program. 498 00:24:09,210 --> 00:24:10,500 Walt and Annette also bought 499 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:12,810 airtime on the Phil Donahue Show. 500 00:24:12,810 --> 00:24:15,320 All that advertising paid off. 501 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,750 The class was such a success that Bob thought about making 502 00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:22,000 WIPB be the permanent home of The Joy of Painting, 503 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,570 so he went to see the general manager. 504 00:24:24,570 --> 00:24:27,840 - He said, "Well we we'd like to talk 505 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,070 "to you about an idea we have." 506 00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:30,550 And I said, "What's that?" 507 00:24:30,550 --> 00:24:32,560 He said, "Would you would you go to lunch with me?" 508 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,710 And I said sure so we took him to lunch. 509 00:24:35,647 --> 00:24:37,550 He said, "How about making a painting series?" 510 00:24:37,550 --> 00:24:40,363 - We did the first one and he made the painting 511 00:24:40,363 --> 00:24:44,030 in basically 26 minutes and 46 seconds 512 00:24:44,030 --> 00:24:46,640 and so we said well my goodness. 513 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,680 How many of these can you do and 514 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,674 he says how many you want to do? 515 00:24:49,674 --> 00:24:50,507 I said, "Well you realize we could 516 00:24:50,507 --> 00:24:52,920 "do 13, we'd have a series." 517 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,330 So believe it or not in like a three day period 518 00:24:55,330 --> 00:24:57,680 we knocked out 13 programs. 519 00:24:59,180 --> 00:25:00,320 - The next step was to get 520 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,800 The Joy of Painting picked up around the country. 521 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,570 So they submitted the series to a national distributor 522 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:07,090 to see if there was enough interest from 523 00:25:07,090 --> 00:25:09,280 other stations to carry the program. 524 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,370 - It went up for a vote and basically 525 00:25:11,370 --> 00:25:13,790 Bob and Annette and I and a couple of others 526 00:25:13,790 --> 00:25:14,980 were in our office, we were actually 527 00:25:14,980 --> 00:25:17,240 watching this vote tally, 528 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,270 and by golly you know it was a hit. 529 00:25:20,270 --> 00:25:22,020 They said yeah we'll take it. 530 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:23,640 They designed a marketing campaign 531 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,130 turning over Bill Alexander's technique 532 00:25:26,130 --> 00:25:28,930 and his legacy to Bob Ross. 533 00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:31,520 - I hand over now that almighty brush 534 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,600 to a mighty man and that is Bob Ross. 535 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,433 Congratulations. 536 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:37,300 - Thank you very much, Bill. 537 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:39,520 We look forward to seeing you right here on this channel 538 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,220 for The Joy of Painting each week. 539 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,150 - Now with a national audience, 540 00:25:46,150 --> 00:25:47,610 Bob was on the hook to produce a 541 00:25:47,610 --> 00:25:50,840 new program series every quarter. 542 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,130 The production schedule was grueling. 543 00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:55,450 - We did the whole 13 programs that would be 544 00:25:55,450 --> 00:26:00,450 in a typical quarter, in one week here at WIPB. 545 00:26:00,580 --> 00:26:02,040 Bob would show up on Sundays, 546 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,420 he'd place the paintings actually around the studio 547 00:26:04,420 --> 00:26:06,170 in which we're sitting right now, 548 00:26:06,170 --> 00:26:07,490 and he'd pick out the order in which 549 00:26:07,490 --> 00:26:09,390 he was going to produce them, 550 00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:12,880 and we would do the opens and closes of the shows, 551 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,730 all of them on Monday, 552 00:26:14,730 --> 00:26:18,350 and then we'd do probably two or three programs on Monday. 553 00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:20,370 Then Tuesday we'd usually do eight or nine, 554 00:26:20,370 --> 00:26:22,650 and Wednesday we'd do what was left, 555 00:26:22,650 --> 00:26:24,850 and look at them again on Thursday 556 00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:27,080 and if we had two we did retakes. 557 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,410 - The show was generally shot straight through live to tape. 558 00:26:31,410 --> 00:26:33,740 Occasionally if there was a technical problem 559 00:26:33,740 --> 00:26:36,140 or something like that they would go back 560 00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:39,710 and do an edit but he was producing those paintings 561 00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:42,210 as you saw it on television. 562 00:26:42,210 --> 00:26:44,470 - He was very proud of that, 563 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:48,230 that there's no trickery going on. 564 00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:51,160 And I should mention here that those 565 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,220 paintings were not all that spontaneous. 566 00:26:54,220 --> 00:26:57,590 There was always a finished painting hanging 567 00:26:57,590 --> 00:27:00,850 off camera that Bob was referring to. 568 00:27:00,850 --> 00:27:03,010 - Tell you what let's get crazy today. 569 00:27:03,010 --> 00:27:03,843 - And he would say all these 570 00:27:03,843 --> 00:27:05,430 funny things like let's get crazy 571 00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:08,040 but he knew where he was going. 572 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,360 He knew where he was going, but he's taking 573 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:10,980 you on that ride with him, you know. 574 00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:12,450 He's keeping you entertained and 575 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:14,430 painting all at the same time. 576 00:27:14,430 --> 00:27:17,270 - But Bob insisted that nobody 577 00:27:17,270 --> 00:27:19,670 ever see the finished painting 578 00:27:19,670 --> 00:27:22,120 because sometimes he didn't have time to do 579 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,990 everything that was in that painting. 580 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,080 And he would have to leave out a big tree 581 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,050 or a bush or a boat. 582 00:27:30,550 --> 00:27:31,760 - There is one exception 583 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,620 to Bob's thoughtful planning, 584 00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:37,140 he did series two completely off the top of his head. 585 00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:42,760 - One night somebody broke into our motor home 586 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,750 two days before we were to start taping, 587 00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:51,490 and they stole all 13 of the reference paintings. 588 00:27:51,490 --> 00:27:56,130 And that was the most spontaneous series that Bob ever did. 589 00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:02,610 - This new partnership with 590 00:28:02,610 --> 00:28:04,590 the PBS station in Muncie, Indiana 591 00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:06,780 was the right move for Bob. 592 00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:09,680 He would go on to produce the remaining 30 series 593 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,140 of The Joy of Painting there. 594 00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:13,850 That's almost 400 episodes. 595 00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:15,640 - There's a lot of super people 596 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,510 that put a lot of work into making this happen. 597 00:28:18,510 --> 00:28:20,640 It's not done just by coming up here 598 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,400 and painting a little picture. 599 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,740 There's a lot of people here in the studio 600 00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:28,520 that work very hard to bring you a nice production. 601 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,506 They really do a good job. 602 00:28:30,506 --> 00:28:32,170 - It was always fun to work with Bob. 603 00:28:32,170 --> 00:28:33,790 It was always a week that I think we 604 00:28:33,790 --> 00:28:35,830 looked forward to when he would come back. 605 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:38,330 - Bob had a wonderful sense of humor 606 00:28:38,330 --> 00:28:41,560 and so our days were spent more or less 607 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,680 telling jokes and goofing off, 608 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,040 and then when it came time to be serious 609 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,700 and do the show you know then the Bob you 610 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:51,410 see on the show is the Bob that we all knew 611 00:28:51,410 --> 00:28:53,360 even behind the scenes. 612 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,700 - And when the work was done, 613 00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:57,900 Bob and some of the WIPB team would scour 614 00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:01,320 local antique shops for forgotten treasures. 615 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,430 By 1984 The Joy of Painting could be 616 00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:05,490 seen in most parts of the country, 617 00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:08,670 but some stations still weren't carrying the program. 618 00:29:08,670 --> 00:29:11,300 While Bob was teaching classes in upstate New York, 619 00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:13,570 he gave every one of his students the home 620 00:29:13,570 --> 00:29:16,380 phone number of the local PBS station manager 621 00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:18,610 to convince him to carry Bob's show. 622 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:21,968 - Give your station a call. 623 00:29:21,968 --> 00:29:25,820 I don't know, let them know what you want to see, 624 00:29:25,820 --> 00:29:28,150 and when they need some help give him a hand. 625 00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:31,210 - Bob's wife Jane came down from Alaska 626 00:29:31,210 --> 00:29:33,840 to work with Walt on the business side of things. 627 00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:38,370 - Jane was very much involved. 628 00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:41,860 She did the secretarial work and the office work. 629 00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:44,130 - We were forever supplying Bob and Annette 630 00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:46,340 when they were on on the road teaching classes, 631 00:29:46,340 --> 00:29:49,510 and that's when we were in the basement of our home. 632 00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:52,390 - I was in college when they started this, 633 00:29:52,390 --> 00:29:55,100 you know crazy thing and 634 00:29:55,940 --> 00:29:58,830 came home one day for Thanksgiving or something 635 00:29:58,830 --> 00:30:02,510 and the house was just transformed it was no longer home. 636 00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:05,790 It was like a warehouse and a shipping dock. 637 00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:07,280 - At this point Bob and Annette 638 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,390 were on the road teaching painting classes nearly non stop. 639 00:30:11,390 --> 00:30:14,030 - As Annette and I have traveled around the country 640 00:30:14,030 --> 00:30:17,630 teaching people we have made so many fantastic friends 641 00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:19,580 that have been with us for so long now, 642 00:30:21,136 --> 00:30:23,170 and that might truly be The Joy of Painting 643 00:30:23,170 --> 00:30:25,750 is the friends that you make doing it. 644 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:27,700 - But all that travel was necessary 645 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:29,630 for the sake of the business, 646 00:30:29,630 --> 00:30:31,160 because teaching painting classes 647 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,540 was at the core of what they did. 648 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:36,673 - I think we all had a good relationship 649 00:30:36,673 --> 00:30:39,280 with our spouses, all of us did, 650 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,230 but Jane allowed Bob to go out 651 00:30:41,230 --> 00:30:43,900 and do what he wanted to do. 652 00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:46,720 - My wife Jane, she's stood behind us 653 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,590 and kept this thing going, 654 00:30:50,010 --> 00:30:52,990 and it takes a special lady to live with a crazy man. 655 00:30:52,990 --> 00:30:55,070 - It wasn't fun for them, 656 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:56,810 it wasn't necessarily a lot of fun for us, 657 00:30:56,810 --> 00:31:01,570 but the encouragement was there from Jane 658 00:31:01,570 --> 00:31:05,040 and certainly I was going to all lengths to 659 00:31:06,290 --> 00:31:08,200 satisfy my wife as well. 660 00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:12,910 - The Oprah Winfrey Show called 661 00:31:12,910 --> 00:31:15,880 and asked if Bob would agree to appear 662 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,090 and I said, "Yes. 663 00:31:19,090 --> 00:31:22,940 "Should I bring the easel and the canvases and paint?" 664 00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:24,570 They said, "Paint? 665 00:31:24,570 --> 00:31:26,910 "No, we're just looking for couples that are 666 00:31:26,910 --> 00:31:30,270 "in business together but don't live together." 667 00:31:30,270 --> 00:31:32,410 - Without the opportunity to paint 668 00:31:32,410 --> 00:31:34,450 Bob turned down the guest appearance 669 00:31:34,450 --> 00:31:36,360 on The Oprah Winfrey Show. 670 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,160 - To Bob it was all about painting. 671 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680 It's always been about painting with Bob. 672 00:31:41,550 --> 00:31:43,100 - But the stress of turning this 673 00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:45,960 dream into a reality wore on them, 674 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,190 and many times Annette, Walt, or Jane 675 00:31:48,190 --> 00:31:50,620 talked about throwing in the towel. 676 00:31:50,620 --> 00:31:52,815 - Fortunately there was never a consensus. 677 00:31:52,815 --> 00:31:55,920 Not all four of us agreed at the same time, 678 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,550 so it just sort of, we were on a shift. 679 00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:01,410 Those who objected or wanted to quit were in favor, 680 00:32:01,410 --> 00:32:02,650 and then the others would switch over 681 00:32:02,650 --> 00:32:04,890 and decided let's cash it in. 682 00:32:04,890 --> 00:32:07,740 - But Bob's persistence kept them all going. 683 00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:09,780 - Well he never wanted to quit. 684 00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:11,425 - No, he was probably one of the-- 685 00:32:11,425 --> 00:32:13,910 - And I was the one who most wanted out. 686 00:32:20,410 --> 00:32:22,380 - His complete dedication to painting 687 00:32:22,380 --> 00:32:26,220 and teaching others to paint was the driving force. 688 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:29,410 What ultimately led to Bob's unprecedented success 689 00:32:29,410 --> 00:32:33,460 hosting a painting program, was his unwavering belief 690 00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:35,900 that anyone could learn to paint. 691 00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:38,470 - You often hear that to be an artist 692 00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:41,290 you have to be blessed with your own talent. 693 00:32:41,290 --> 00:32:43,790 I think Bob's really reversed that notion, 694 00:32:43,790 --> 00:32:45,300 anybody can paint. 695 00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:46,780 He said just a little bit of practice 696 00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:48,020 and anybody can paint. 697 00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:49,020 - You know just recently I was 698 00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:50,960 doing a demonstration in a mall, 699 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,890 and I had a man come to me and he said, 700 00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:56,060 "Bob I could never paint because I'm color blind, 701 00:32:56,060 --> 00:32:58,320 "all I can see is gray tones." 702 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,160 So I thought today we'd do a picture in gray 703 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,500 just to show you that anyone can paint. 704 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,710 - That's the miracle of Bob Ross. 705 00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:07,870 He starts very simply and it just 706 00:33:07,870 --> 00:33:11,970 layer and layer and he builds, and anyone can do it. 707 00:33:12,810 --> 00:33:14,580 - That was part of the magic, 708 00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:17,330 Bob's unyielding encouragement. 709 00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:22,030 He said all you need is a desire to take that first step. 710 00:33:22,030 --> 00:33:23,510 - I remember putting my knife out for 711 00:33:23,510 --> 00:33:26,190 the first time and just shaking. 712 00:33:27,250 --> 00:33:31,910 From where I came from with absolutely no background in art, 713 00:33:31,910 --> 00:33:35,500 not knowing anything about brushes, paints, canvases, 714 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,410 I didn't know anything and I actually sat down in 715 00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:41,120 front of the canvas and did something. 716 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,170 I was amazed that what I could do. 717 00:33:45,170 --> 00:33:49,100 - It's brought painting to the, or the ability 718 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:52,480 to create something to the average person, 719 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,970 and you know they know they're never 720 00:33:54,970 --> 00:33:58,920 gonna be a famous artist, I think, maybe they will be. 721 00:33:59,910 --> 00:34:03,360 But when they sit down they just 722 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,700 get into their own world and it's a nice place to get. 723 00:34:08,740 --> 00:34:10,450 - Bob nurtured the confidence of his 724 00:34:10,450 --> 00:34:12,530 viewers and for many people painting 725 00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:14,980 gives them a feeling of accomplishment 726 00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:18,440 and that's part of the joy that Bob was trying to spread. 727 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,630 - There is joy in that in painting 728 00:34:20,630 --> 00:34:23,830 and creating something and being proud of it, 729 00:34:23,830 --> 00:34:25,570 and you can see the looks on people's faces 730 00:34:25,570 --> 00:34:26,540 when they're proud of their painting. 731 00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:28,430 It's like they just can't believe they did that. 732 00:34:28,430 --> 00:34:30,890 - You feel so important when you're doing that. 733 00:34:30,890 --> 00:34:32,700 You know when you're putting that paint on that canvas, 734 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:35,200 you are doing something that up until that moment 735 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,690 was in a couple of tubes and a blank canvas sitting there. 736 00:34:39,690 --> 00:34:42,690 I mean it wasn't doing anything for anyone, 737 00:34:42,690 --> 00:34:44,450 and you're taking those same exact things 738 00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:46,350 and with just a little bit of energy 739 00:34:46,350 --> 00:34:49,020 you've taken this and made it into a creative 740 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:50,260 and a wonderful thing. 741 00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:56,550 - But the fact that a first timer can 742 00:34:56,550 --> 00:35:00,290 achieve immediate success using the wet on wet technique 743 00:35:00,290 --> 00:35:02,300 is part of the criticism. 744 00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:04,320 Traditional artists chastise the method 745 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,670 as being overly simplistic. 746 00:35:08,490 --> 00:35:10,450 And some say his landscapes use color 747 00:35:10,450 --> 00:35:12,870 combinations not found in the natural world. 748 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,900 - Most people think that art is something 749 00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:18,870 that's very complicated that you have to go to school 750 00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:21,050 for a hundred years to learn, 751 00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:24,730 and we try to teach them that 752 00:35:24,730 --> 00:35:27,140 that you can do a very good painting 753 00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:29,980 with very little instruction, 754 00:35:31,210 --> 00:35:32,320 a lot of happiness, 755 00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:35,530 and teach them how to create. 756 00:35:35,530 --> 00:35:38,920 - People don't believe that he had any real talent, 757 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,250 that he just put paint on a canvas. 758 00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:44,690 In actuality, he does everything that 759 00:35:44,690 --> 00:35:46,440 traditional artists do. 760 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,940 He just doesn't talk about it. 761 00:35:48,830 --> 00:35:50,450 He just doesn't talk about it. 762 00:35:50,450 --> 00:35:53,200 He doesn't say, he doesn't use the word perspective, 763 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,820 he'll say make the color light in the distance. 764 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:59,440 - I think the hardest part with painting is 765 00:36:02,020 --> 00:36:03,370 is knowing the balance you know, 766 00:36:03,370 --> 00:36:05,700 where the foreground and the background 767 00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:07,000 and not putting things in the middle 768 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,460 and of course when you watch what he does 769 00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:11,750 as a professional, you realize that 770 00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:13,950 he does all of that for you, 771 00:36:13,950 --> 00:36:15,640 but he's not telling you okay these are the rules, 772 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,350 you don't do this and you don't do that. 773 00:36:17,350 --> 00:36:20,130 He just automatically does it. 774 00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:22,390 - But Bob never let the critics get to him, 775 00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:26,020 because it was not his goal to be regarded as a great artist 776 00:36:26,020 --> 00:36:27,920 or even to teach others to be. 777 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,916 - You say out loud your work will never hang in a museum. 778 00:36:31,916 --> 00:36:33,110 Bob! 779 00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:35,410 - Well maybe it will but probably not this morning. 780 00:36:35,410 --> 00:36:37,540 - Because why, Bob? What's the deal here? 781 00:36:37,540 --> 00:36:38,373 What are you telling us? 782 00:36:38,373 --> 00:36:39,730 - Well I'm trying to teach people 783 00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:41,710 a form of art that anybody can do. 784 00:36:41,710 --> 00:36:43,260 This is art for anyone who's ever 785 00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:45,150 wanted to put a dream on canvas. 786 00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:47,210 It's not something, it's not traditional art, 787 00:36:47,210 --> 00:36:50,560 it's not fine art, and I don't try to tell anybody it is. 788 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,910 - His goal was to get people 789 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:55,020 to experience the joy of painting, 790 00:36:55,020 --> 00:36:58,020 and he did that by removing the fear of failure. 791 00:36:58,870 --> 00:37:01,165 - I think that's probably the main ingredient 792 00:37:01,165 --> 00:37:04,895 of Bob's technique, that he dismissed that 793 00:37:04,895 --> 00:37:08,472 sort of fear of beginning. 794 00:37:08,472 --> 00:37:10,940 - I think that you have to believe in yourself 795 00:37:10,940 --> 00:37:14,550 and you need the confidence belief to carry on. 796 00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:17,730 - I'd probably say he's done more for art 797 00:37:17,730 --> 00:37:19,180 than anyone in the history of art. 798 00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:23,510 He's got more people involved just because of his nature 799 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:25,970 and he told them they could do it and they can. 800 00:37:25,970 --> 00:37:28,090 - Bob even acknowledged those criticisms 801 00:37:28,090 --> 00:37:32,220 in a spoof he did as an HBO filler to run between movies. 802 00:37:33,850 --> 00:37:35,820 Bob interrupts a formal art class 803 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:37,510 when he comes to paint the house. 804 00:37:40,610 --> 00:37:42,060 When the class takes a break, 805 00:37:43,350 --> 00:37:46,790 Bob gives it a try using his own tools. 806 00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:04,050 With each series of The Joy of Painting 807 00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:06,840 Bob's familiar image and soothing voice 808 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,550 filled more and more homes across the country. 809 00:38:09,550 --> 00:38:11,780 - I think our first series we managed 810 00:38:11,780 --> 00:38:14,800 fifty stations around the country, 811 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,970 and probably for the next two or three years 812 00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:19,390 we didn't rise much beyond seventy five 813 00:38:19,390 --> 00:38:22,120 of the public channels and then sort 814 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,200 of exponentially we went to 300. 815 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,900 - It's on almost every station in the country still. 816 00:38:28,900 --> 00:38:33,540 It's like 95% of stations which is the highest 817 00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:36,430 of any of the art programs. 818 00:38:36,430 --> 00:38:39,050 - But most people who watch The Joy of Painting 819 00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:42,160 are just watching, the Bob Ross Company 820 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,520 estimates that only around 3% of the show's audience 821 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,840 actually paints along with him. 822 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,040 Millions and millions of people watch him all over the world 823 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,130 and only a small percentage actually paint. 824 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,750 They watch him because they just enjoy him. 825 00:38:57,750 --> 00:39:00,540 - I hear people to this day say you know I 826 00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:03,660 watched that just so that I can hear his voice. 827 00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:06,660 - My method of viewing Bob Ross was definitely 828 00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:11,660 turn on the TV and watch and listen and just be captivated. 829 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:15,310 I couldn't possibly lift a brush while Bob Ross 830 00:39:15,310 --> 00:39:16,820 was talking and working because 831 00:39:16,820 --> 00:39:18,920 you just get so sucked into what he's doing. 832 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,760 It was amazing because his subject 833 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,760 matter didn't vary too much, but it never got old. 834 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,980 It never cease to amaze me. 835 00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:33,530 - Every day I just come home from school and I 836 00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:35,900 like I really unwind when I watch his show. 837 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:37,930 He's just like semi enchanting. 838 00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:42,580 He really puts like a good feeling into my heart. 839 00:39:42,580 --> 00:39:43,890 It's fantastic. 840 00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:48,230 - The secret to Bob's success was Bob himself. 841 00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:50,960 His warmth and gentleness were sincere 842 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,940 but once he got in front of the camera 843 00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:57,390 he was well aware that his personality was part of the show. 844 00:39:57,390 --> 00:40:00,770 - His manner, he just seemed like 845 00:40:00,770 --> 00:40:03,230 the happiest guy in the world. 846 00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:04,840 I think that for me was 847 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,420 very powerful seeing him and his happiness. 848 00:40:07,420 --> 00:40:09,130 The things that he used to say 849 00:40:09,130 --> 00:40:11,800 and the ways that he would always talk about 850 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,740 the world and you can see the way he saw the world. 851 00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:18,710 - You just get swept off into this magical world 852 00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:21,020 where you're taken out of the present moment 853 00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:24,930 and you're taken into a fantasy reality, 854 00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:28,330 and yes it's his but it can become your own. 855 00:40:28,330 --> 00:40:29,930 - You can make up stories, 856 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,820 because this is your world and in your world 857 00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:36,610 you can have any fantasy that you want. 858 00:40:36,610 --> 00:40:38,770 - Bob cultivated a relationship with his 859 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:42,130 viewers by engaging them in a one sided conversation. 860 00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:47,130 - If you think about what Joy of Painting was, 861 00:40:47,310 --> 00:40:49,940 it's TV death, right? 862 00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:50,970 It's a dude 863 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,130 speaking softly 864 00:40:54,130 --> 00:40:55,870 and painting a picture, 865 00:40:55,870 --> 00:40:59,010 but it's one of the most beloved shows ever. 866 00:40:59,010 --> 00:41:00,510 - The instinct when you go on television, 867 00:41:00,510 --> 00:41:01,790 you see that red light go on, 868 00:41:01,790 --> 00:41:04,580 you know it's , entertain the people. 869 00:41:04,580 --> 00:41:07,480 The worst thing could happen to me was a moment of silence 870 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,170 and all of a sudden comes along Bob Ross. 871 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:16,060 Who's gonna put in a white cloud here you know, 872 00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:19,730 I remember thinking how'd this guy get a show? 873 00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:24,450 - And although Bob was speaking slowly and calmly 874 00:41:24,450 --> 00:41:26,240 he was painting rapidly. 875 00:41:34,030 --> 00:41:37,250 - Bob Ross for as mild as he was 876 00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:39,380 he painted like a bulldog. 877 00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:41,220 I mean he really like got in there was just, 878 00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:44,030 I mean he worked that canvas, he worked that painting, 879 00:41:44,030 --> 00:41:47,610 he expected a lot out of his materials and he got it. 880 00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:49,810 - There's things you pick up watching him 881 00:41:49,810 --> 00:41:52,120 like the way to do a pine tree with the fan brush 882 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,310 where you just you know go straight up, get the little 883 00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:57,160 trunk and then you do little pieces 884 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,690 all the way down with the fan brush 885 00:41:58,690 --> 00:42:01,020 and it's so fast and the next thing you know he 886 00:42:01,020 --> 00:42:03,790 takes a brush and he does a couple of 887 00:42:03,790 --> 00:42:08,050 swirls with gray and black and white and they're rocks. 888 00:42:08,050 --> 00:42:11,500 It was like so quick what he was doing and 889 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,010 it's fascinating to watch. 890 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,300 - Bob had a passion for life. 891 00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:22,350 - And of course he had a Corvette 892 00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:24,220 and he loved that Corvette. 893 00:42:24,220 --> 00:42:26,330 - And a passion for wildlife. 894 00:42:26,330 --> 00:42:28,310 He was known for having small animals 895 00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:31,160 or critters as he liked to call them on his show. 896 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,770 - This was not something we were happy with 897 00:42:32,770 --> 00:42:35,500 or encouraged but we allowed him to do it 898 00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:37,150 because Bob was Bob. 899 00:42:37,150 --> 00:42:39,850 - We had lots of creatures on the show, 900 00:42:39,850 --> 00:42:42,150 and squirrels of course became his trademark. 901 00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:45,340 He really loved squirrels and he had Peapod. 902 00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:48,340 - That's the one that just became famous 903 00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:53,340 and Peapod lived in his house with him for about two years 904 00:42:54,170 --> 00:42:57,090 and finally he said you know he really 905 00:42:57,090 --> 00:43:01,120 needs to be out in the wild and so he released him. 906 00:43:01,970 --> 00:43:02,840 - Bob was committed to 907 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,570 rehabilitating injured or orphaned animals, 908 00:43:05,570 --> 00:43:08,270 and he would build elaborate cages for them. 909 00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:11,070 - Actually I lived a couple blocks from him 910 00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:12,530 and every now and then he'd say, 911 00:43:12,530 --> 00:43:14,990 "I made you a cage today." 912 00:43:14,990 --> 00:43:18,140 And he would have made me one of these enormous 913 00:43:18,140 --> 00:43:21,930 wire cages and they were lifesavers. 914 00:43:21,930 --> 00:43:24,510 They helped me so much. 915 00:43:24,510 --> 00:43:26,140 - Bob rented an apartment in Muncie, 916 00:43:26,140 --> 00:43:27,820 near the television studio. 917 00:43:27,820 --> 00:43:30,730 It had a lake right out the backdoor filled with fish 918 00:43:30,730 --> 00:43:32,880 and Bob would feed them every day. 919 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,190 - Well Bob had a heart attack while we were in Muncie. 920 00:43:39,790 --> 00:43:44,790 And he was bedridden for quite some time, 921 00:43:46,422 --> 00:43:48,010 and he worried about those fish. 922 00:43:48,010 --> 00:43:51,330 I stayed in Muncie with him while he was sick. 923 00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:54,130 So he said, "Annette, you have to go buy 924 00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:56,450 "the bread and feed the fish." 925 00:43:56,450 --> 00:43:58,210 - But even when he wasn't feeling well 926 00:43:58,210 --> 00:44:00,520 Bob always tried to stay positive. 927 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,990 - He was always up, I mean he was a person that 928 00:44:05,590 --> 00:44:07,010 and I know he had bad days, 929 00:44:07,010 --> 00:44:09,490 he used to have terrible headaches, 930 00:44:09,490 --> 00:44:12,480 and I know that he'd have bad days but 931 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,100 you would not know it if you didn't know Bob Ross. 932 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,840 - He rose to stardom 933 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,920 on the wings of public television 934 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,420 and he wanted to give back to the 935 00:44:23,420 --> 00:44:25,790 system that had given him so much. 936 00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:28,530 - Most of these paintings are donated 937 00:44:28,530 --> 00:44:31,320 to PBS stations across the country. 938 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,580 They auction them often, 939 00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:34,610 they make a happy buck for them. 940 00:44:34,610 --> 00:44:35,910 So if you'd like to have one you know 941 00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:38,300 get touch with your PBS station. 942 00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:41,080 You know NBC or ABC gets a thousand phone calls 943 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:46,080 about a program and they say okay, we'll note that. 944 00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:48,410 PBS gets a half a dozen phone calls from you 945 00:44:48,410 --> 00:44:51,759 with a pledge especially they shut down and have a party. 946 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,600 - I'll never forget at an auction one time we were, 947 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,440 he was painting a painting live and we sold it 948 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,970 and the person that bought it said, 949 00:45:01,970 --> 00:45:05,830 "I'm coming in will you wait for me so I can meet you?" 950 00:45:05,830 --> 00:45:08,690 And the woman walked in with her walker 951 00:45:08,690 --> 00:45:10,620 about 11:30 at night and had driven 952 00:45:10,620 --> 00:45:12,870 for about an hour to get here, 953 00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:14,160 and she started crying, 954 00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:19,200 and she said, "I don't have too many good days anymore, 955 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,480 "but when I watch your show it's the best part of that day. 956 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,730 "I just want to thank you for that, 957 00:45:23,730 --> 00:45:25,780 "that's why I had to have your painting." 958 00:45:26,626 --> 00:45:29,200 And Bob thanked her and gave her a hug 959 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,740 and he said, "That's why I do this." 960 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,670 - But at this point the 961 00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:40,270 main source of income for Bob's business 962 00:45:40,270 --> 00:45:42,360 came from teaching painting classes 963 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,610 and selling instruction books, 964 00:45:44,610 --> 00:45:47,030 and then a happy accident. 965 00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:48,790 The Alexander Company called and said 966 00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:50,450 they couldn't produce enough paint to 967 00:45:50,450 --> 00:45:52,690 keep up with the growing demand and 968 00:45:52,690 --> 00:45:56,000 suggested that Bob start his own line of products. 969 00:45:56,990 --> 00:46:00,090 - Bob also took that opportunity 970 00:46:00,090 --> 00:46:04,820 to refine the product that Alexander had been using. 971 00:46:04,820 --> 00:46:07,170 - He reduced the size of the largest brush that 972 00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:10,330 Alexander was using, from two and a half inches down 973 00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:14,360 to two inches, and he adjusted the formula of the paint. 974 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,390 - Bob was very adamant about what he wanted. 975 00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:19,230 He was kind of a perfectionist, 976 00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:22,120 because he knew the system that he developed would 977 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,520 work for a beginner if it was formulated a certain way. 978 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,280 - More than the colors being specific, 979 00:46:29,791 --> 00:46:31,470 is the consistency of the paint. 980 00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:34,370 It's very specific to the technique. 981 00:46:34,370 --> 00:46:36,320 They're very very firm. 982 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,610 - Here's what it takes to make 983 00:46:37,610 --> 00:46:39,760 the Bob Ross landscape oil colors. 984 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,890 - You measure, you put it in, you let it mix, 985 00:46:41,890 --> 00:46:45,620 and then thicker products go over a three roll mill, 986 00:46:45,620 --> 00:46:50,115 then the lab chemist comes and does a job on it 987 00:46:50,115 --> 00:46:51,590 and then if he approves it then it goes 988 00:46:51,590 --> 00:46:53,500 through to filling equipment. 989 00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:54,670 - Each tube of paint was 990 00:46:54,670 --> 00:46:57,110 printed with Bob's smiling face. 991 00:46:57,110 --> 00:47:00,920 As his products hit commercial shelves so did his image 992 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,030 establishing his brand in the commercial art world. 993 00:47:04,030 --> 00:47:07,020 Now Bob could focus on growing his business 994 00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:09,770 and that meant training some instructors to go out 995 00:47:09,770 --> 00:47:13,500 and teach the method and the message of The Joy of Painting. 996 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,320 As the demand for more television episodes 997 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,320 plus more painting classes, both steadily increased 998 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,260 Bob began to realize that he wouldn't have 999 00:47:27,260 --> 00:47:29,620 enough time to devote to both. 1000 00:47:29,620 --> 00:47:34,430 In 1987 he created the first team of Bob Ross instructors. 1001 00:47:34,430 --> 00:47:37,610 These students would go out and teach in Bob's place. 1002 00:47:37,610 --> 00:47:39,650 - One of the things that we're trying to do is we 1003 00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:42,140 travel around and teach this almighty method 1004 00:47:42,140 --> 00:47:45,730 is we're trying to gather up an army of teachers 1005 00:47:45,730 --> 00:47:48,090 and soon we'll have teachers that travel 1006 00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:50,850 this entire beautiful country teaching this 1007 00:47:50,850 --> 00:47:52,660 fantastic method of painting. 1008 00:47:52,660 --> 00:47:54,830 - Seminars and demonstrations gave way 1009 00:47:54,830 --> 00:47:57,530 to guest appearances in big cities. 1010 00:47:57,530 --> 00:48:00,870 When he released his first hardcover book in 1989, 1011 00:48:00,870 --> 00:48:02,480 Bob hit the talk-show circuit. 1012 00:48:03,650 --> 00:48:06,050 - My next guest has been creating his magic 1013 00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:07,960 for the past 10 years on his own show, 1014 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,420 The Joy of Painting which I watch all the time. 1015 00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:12,670 He is the author of several books on the subject, 1016 00:48:12,670 --> 00:48:15,410 his latest is called The Best of The Joy of Painting. 1017 00:48:15,410 --> 00:48:18,849 Please welcome America's favorite art instructor, Bob Ross. 1018 00:48:19,682 --> 00:48:21,015 Nice to have you on. 1019 00:48:21,015 --> 00:48:23,348 - Thank you, very very much. 1020 00:48:24,957 --> 00:48:26,960 - Why are you so popular? 1021 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,180 Most people can't paint, yet I find myself fascinated. 1022 00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:32,032 I sit and watch you paint. 1023 00:48:32,032 --> 00:48:33,730 - I think it's because that magic really 1024 00:48:33,730 --> 00:48:34,970 does happen in 30 minutes and 1025 00:48:34,970 --> 00:48:36,320 there's no editing to these shows. 1026 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,980 What happens really happens. 1027 00:48:37,980 --> 00:48:39,440 - What is the easiest thing to paint, 1028 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,630 if somebody wants to start out, 1029 00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:42,030 somebody in the audience or me, 1030 00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:44,000 what would be the first thing you would say to somebody? 1031 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,500 - Probably just a little landscape because 1032 00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:47,070 nobody knows if a tree is incorrect. 1033 00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:49,730 If you put three eyes on there either you're Picasso 1034 00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:50,970 or something's wrong. 1035 00:48:50,970 --> 00:48:52,050 - Show me, show me. 1036 00:48:52,050 --> 00:48:54,430 - You know it's very funny you think 1037 00:48:54,430 --> 00:48:57,020 that Bob would pull up in some big limousine 1038 00:48:57,020 --> 00:48:59,010 and he would jump out and the paparazzi 1039 00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:01,050 would be clipping and clip, clip, clip, 1040 00:49:01,050 --> 00:49:04,160 but in fact we were like dragging easels 1041 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,760 and we were just a bunch of country folk 1042 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,550 just in the big city. 1043 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,350 - He was also invited to be a 1044 00:49:16,350 --> 00:49:18,870 celebrity guest at the Grand Old Opry. 1045 00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:21,010 Bob was a big fan of country music 1046 00:49:21,010 --> 00:49:24,280 and his friend Hank Snow brought him up on stage. 1047 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,690 - And when they introduced him the crowd just went nuts. 1048 00:49:27,690 --> 00:49:29,160 And he went up there and he was a little nervous 1049 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,120 at first and cracked a joke and everybody laughed 1050 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,930 and they cheered and he was on his way 1051 00:49:32,930 --> 00:49:34,610 and they had a great interview. 1052 00:49:34,610 --> 00:49:36,610 It was just a really cool thing to walk in there 1053 00:49:36,610 --> 00:49:38,160 and have all these country music stars 1054 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,980 come up the Bob and say you're my favorite, 1055 00:49:39,980 --> 00:49:42,340 I watch you all the time, I paint with you. 1056 00:49:42,340 --> 00:49:44,310 - Annette Kowalski and I had a private class 1057 00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:48,010 for one of country western's living legends Mr. Hanks Snow. 1058 00:49:48,010 --> 00:49:49,600 - I've learned more in the last couple of days 1059 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,070 that I could learn in a year really. 1060 00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:51,903 - Well thank you. 1061 00:49:51,903 --> 00:49:54,690 You're doing almighty things there. 1062 00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:57,520 - By the early 90s nearly 300 episodes 1063 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,000 of The Joy of Painting were on the air 1064 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,760 in the US and then Canada. 1065 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,200 Soon translation started cropping up in Mexico, 1066 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,480 Costa Rica, Colombia, the United Kingdom, 1067 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,610 the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, 1068 00:50:12,610 --> 00:50:17,610 Austria, Turkey, Iran, South Korea, and Japan. 1069 00:50:22,910 --> 00:50:25,440 - It was on in Japan they said no take 1070 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,140 the soundtrack back up we've got to hear his voice. 1071 00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:30,970 I think his sincerity came across even 1072 00:50:30,970 --> 00:50:32,720 if you didn't understand the words. 1073 00:50:34,380 --> 00:50:36,540 - By now Bob was arguably one of 1074 00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:39,860 the biggest stars in the history of Public Television 1075 00:50:39,860 --> 00:50:43,070 and host of the most popular art show of all time. 1076 00:50:43,070 --> 00:50:44,840 - It's just wow. 1077 00:50:45,690 --> 00:50:49,080 This guy has got it and that's 1078 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,330 kind of what it was, 1079 00:50:51,230 --> 00:50:53,890 but he didn't let it go to his head, not at all. 1080 00:50:53,890 --> 00:50:55,350 - I mean you would never know 1081 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,410 that he had this program that clearly had 1082 00:50:59,410 --> 00:51:02,880 the attention nationally of people because he was 1083 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,920 just kind of under the radar. 1084 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,220 - When his second hardcover book came out 1085 00:51:07,220 --> 00:51:10,030 Bob was once again called up to the networks. 1086 00:51:10,030 --> 00:51:11,967 - Bob was looking at us and he's painting a mountain. 1087 00:51:11,967 --> 00:51:13,110 I don't know. 1088 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:14,770 - Because he's famous for his landscapes. 1089 00:51:14,770 --> 00:51:16,080 He says millions of people harbor a 1090 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,330 desire to paint and I think he's right. 1091 00:51:18,330 --> 00:51:19,163 Wouldn't you love to be able to? 1092 00:51:19,163 --> 00:51:20,220 - Well you know we've talked about this 1093 00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:22,260 before I frankly have no, there's his book, 1094 00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:24,140 I have no... 1095 00:51:24,140 --> 00:51:24,973 - Artistic talent at all? 1096 00:51:24,973 --> 00:51:26,492 - Absolutely not. 1097 00:51:26,492 --> 00:51:27,680 None. 1098 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,050 - Tell you what if I can get you to pick up your palettes, 1099 00:51:30,050 --> 00:51:31,290 we have a palette prepared for each of them. 1100 00:51:31,290 --> 00:51:32,907 - That's this part, Reg. 1101 00:51:32,907 --> 00:51:34,030 - And just sort of put your thumb 1102 00:51:34,030 --> 00:51:36,550 right through the hole there, there you go. 1103 00:51:36,550 --> 00:51:37,960 Hold it like, you look good. 1104 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,793 - Okay. 1105 00:51:39,860 --> 00:51:41,790 - This is the fun part of all this. 1106 00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:44,458 We're just gonna paint a happy tree right here. 1107 00:51:44,458 --> 00:51:45,540 - Look, what I'm doing here. 1108 00:51:45,540 --> 00:51:46,759 I'm painting. 1109 00:51:49,210 --> 00:51:50,750 - Bob rose to the status of 1110 00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:55,750 pop culture icon with a series of promotional spots for MTV. 1111 00:51:55,909 --> 00:51:57,680 - I do love to paint trees, 1112 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,549 you can make it wiggly. 1113 00:51:59,549 --> 00:52:00,730 That's how I always do it. 1114 00:52:00,730 --> 00:52:03,290 MTV, it's all just fluffy white clouds. 1115 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,770 - And a tongue in cheek 1116 00:52:05,770 --> 00:52:07,740 commercial for hair care products. 1117 00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:08,580 - Subtle color. 1118 00:52:08,580 --> 00:52:10,490 - A little bit of color. 1119 00:52:10,490 --> 00:52:12,010 - There's no ammonia or peroxide. 1120 00:52:12,010 --> 00:52:13,770 Even conditions your hair. 1121 00:52:13,770 --> 00:52:14,830 - You know people have done spoofs 1122 00:52:14,830 --> 00:52:17,502 on Saturday Night Live, they've done all sorts of things 1123 00:52:17,502 --> 00:52:20,151 and you know what can I say if you reach that stature, 1124 00:52:20,151 --> 00:52:22,850 it means something in life, whether you actually 1125 00:52:22,850 --> 00:52:24,750 like what they're doing or not, 1126 00:52:24,750 --> 00:52:27,620 the point is that they know who you are, 1127 00:52:27,620 --> 00:52:29,960 and he certainly had made a reputation 1128 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,060 of being a visible icon. 1129 00:52:32,060 --> 00:52:34,410 - But Bob learned just how popular he was 1130 00:52:34,410 --> 00:52:37,060 while demonstrating his products on QVC. 1131 00:52:37,060 --> 00:52:39,900 When he got off the air a producer walked up to Bob 1132 00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:41,250 and handed him a phone. 1133 00:52:41,250 --> 00:52:42,620 He said, "Bob I got somebody on the phone 1134 00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:43,520 "who wants to talk to you," 1135 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,353 and Bob said, "Who's that?" 1136 00:52:44,353 --> 00:52:45,340 He said, "Marlon Brando's on the 1137 00:52:45,340 --> 00:52:47,730 "phone and wants to talk to you." 1138 00:52:47,730 --> 00:52:51,230 Bob, who was very humble, he was like, his jaw dropped. 1139 00:52:51,230 --> 00:52:54,190 He just like, Marlon Brando wants to talk to me? 1140 00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:56,890 It was phenomenal. 1141 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,140 That's the kind of magnet Bob was. 1142 00:53:06,660 --> 00:53:09,510 - Although his career was at its pinnacle 1143 00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:12,240 his personal life was starting to come apart. 1144 00:53:13,210 --> 00:53:16,810 In 1992, he lost his wife Jane to cancer. 1145 00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:22,040 And his own health was starting to fail as well. 1146 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,710 He was fighting his second bout of lymphoma. 1147 00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:26,900 He'd had surgery for the original diagnosis 1148 00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:29,130 long before The Joy of Painting started, 1149 00:53:29,130 --> 00:53:31,610 and had been in remission for years, 1150 00:53:31,610 --> 00:53:35,900 all of which was kept secret except to his closest friends. 1151 00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:39,260 - He really got tired easily and that 1152 00:53:39,260 --> 00:53:42,580 probably was a precursor to what was coming. 1153 00:53:42,580 --> 00:53:45,230 - But when Bob knew he was losing the fight, 1154 00:53:45,230 --> 00:53:48,400 he began making plans to carry on The Joy of Painting. 1155 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:53,400 - We had a couple of years warning 1156 00:53:54,370 --> 00:53:56,260 that we were going to lose Bob. 1157 00:53:57,140 --> 00:54:02,140 He worried that when he was gone the landscapes would go too 1158 00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:08,670 and so he said, "Annette, I think you need to go 1159 00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:13,200 "public with the florals that you're painting." 1160 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,590 - You know over the years I've got literally 1161 00:54:15,590 --> 00:54:17,270 hundreds of letters from people saying 1162 00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:18,770 teach us how to paint florals. 1163 00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:20,760 Well, I'm not really a floral painter, 1164 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,420 I'm really a tree and mountain type person, 1165 00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:25,770 so I've asked a very dear friend to come in today 1166 00:54:25,770 --> 00:54:27,900 and help us with a little floral painting. 1167 00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:29,890 I'd like to introduce you to my partner 1168 00:54:29,890 --> 00:54:31,980 and longtime friend Annette Kowalski. 1169 00:54:31,980 --> 00:54:33,320 Annette welcome to the show. 1170 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,470 - Thanks, Bob. 1171 00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:35,620 - Around that same time 1172 00:54:35,620 --> 00:54:37,300 they opened the Bob Ross workshop 1173 00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:39,930 in New Smyrna Beach Florida to train the 1174 00:54:39,930 --> 00:54:43,090 army of new instructors to carry on Bob's legacy. 1175 00:54:43,090 --> 00:54:44,070 - It's viral. 1176 00:54:45,541 --> 00:54:47,840 You teach five people to do it and they go out 1177 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,520 and they teach ten people to do it 1178 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,580 and then they teach 20 people to do it 1179 00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:54,530 and it just keeps rolling. 1180 00:54:54,530 --> 00:54:57,470 - That's what he wanted to happen is that 1181 00:54:57,470 --> 00:55:01,700 everybody would still pass that joy on to the next person. 1182 00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:03,870 - Then in 1994 about a year 1183 00:55:03,870 --> 00:55:05,990 before he died, Bob was invited to 1184 00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:08,300 be a guest on the Phil Donahue Show. 1185 00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:09,670 - I recall thinking, 1186 00:55:11,082 --> 00:55:13,990 you know when people watch the Donahue Show, you know, 1187 00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:15,790 we hope we're interesting and then you know 1188 00:55:15,790 --> 00:55:18,730 people will watch it and enjoy it. 1189 00:55:20,270 --> 00:55:22,700 When they watch Bob Ross 1190 00:55:24,430 --> 00:55:25,960 they went like this. 1191 00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:33,040 You were mesmerized by what he was doing. 1192 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,510 I remember just leaning forward towards the television set. 1193 00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:38,960 I couldn't get over this guy. 1194 00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:43,090 I was crazy about the guy so, 1195 00:55:43,090 --> 00:55:44,370 what do you do when you're impressed 1196 00:55:44,370 --> 00:55:47,660 you invite him on your show which is what I did. 1197 00:55:47,660 --> 00:55:50,080 You know you don't necessarily jump out of a cake, 1198 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,920 I mean you never were that kind of guy, 1199 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,370 put a lampshade on your head. 1200 00:55:53,370 --> 00:55:54,440 - No. 1201 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,100 - You know you are so cool, 1202 00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:59,150 you are so calm, you are yourself 1203 00:55:59,150 --> 00:56:00,560 and you put together some of the most 1204 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,970 beautiful work I've ever seen. 1205 00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:05,700 Look at the light shining in, I mean this is wonderful 1206 00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:08,520 and so who's stupid to put his 1207 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,970 painting up after Bob Ross, the pro. 1208 00:56:11,970 --> 00:56:13,890 All right, here I am, 1209 00:56:13,890 --> 00:56:18,010 I'm about to embarrass the whole Donahue family here. 1210 00:56:18,010 --> 00:56:19,140 All right? 1211 00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:21,720 This is what you can do if you apply yourself 1212 00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,120 and have more talent than I do. 1213 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,191 There you go. 1214 00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:33,430 The audience was just totally into this 1215 00:56:34,350 --> 00:56:37,290 and you know when you're 29 years on the air 1216 00:56:37,290 --> 00:56:38,790 with an audience every day, 1217 00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:41,670 you get pretty good at reading audiences 1218 00:56:42,740 --> 00:56:46,760 and this audience at the time that he did our show 1219 00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:50,960 was totally wrapped. 1220 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,150 Sir, you wanted to ask. 1221 00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:54,010 - My mom watches him all the time. 1222 00:56:54,010 --> 00:56:54,975 - Yeah. 1223 00:56:54,975 --> 00:56:56,560 - I go over there's she's always watching this guy paint, 1224 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,140 and she says he looks so good 1225 00:56:59,140 --> 00:57:00,370 I wonder how they look in person 1226 00:57:00,370 --> 00:57:02,886 and they look terrific, mom, in person, they look great. 1227 00:57:02,886 --> 00:57:05,136 - Bob, thank you. 1228 00:57:12,270 --> 00:57:14,780 - By the end of 94 Bob became too weak 1229 00:57:14,780 --> 00:57:18,180 to continue to travel to Indiana from his home in Florida. 1230 00:57:18,180 --> 00:57:20,230 - It was pretty clear as he started 1231 00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:22,120 dealing with those issues that doing 1232 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,270 four or five shows in a matter of three or four hours 1233 00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:26,720 was just getting be too much, 1234 00:57:27,714 --> 00:57:29,040 and that's when we really just 1235 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,580 started saying we need to stop. 1236 00:57:32,580 --> 00:57:35,200 - The the worst part of all for him was his hair, 1237 00:57:36,243 --> 00:57:39,110 he was so upset because his hair, you know, 1238 00:57:39,110 --> 00:57:42,570 he did go through a certain amount of radiation and chemo 1239 00:57:42,570 --> 00:57:44,480 and his hair was falling out. 1240 00:57:45,365 --> 00:57:48,030 Of course he had a wig at the end there but, 1241 00:57:49,580 --> 00:57:52,290 you know, he had an image to keep 1242 00:57:52,290 --> 00:57:54,840 and that was very important to him. 1243 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,040 - He had produced over 1244 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,940 400 episodes of The Joy of Painting. 1245 00:57:58,940 --> 00:58:01,450 The last series was number 31. 1246 00:58:01,450 --> 00:58:06,120 - Bob was unable to complete series 32. 1247 00:58:08,530 --> 00:58:12,980 I think he prepared ten or twelve of the paintings, 1248 00:58:16,030 --> 00:58:19,520 and then he couldn't paint anymore and so 1249 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,520 we were never able to film or tape those programs 1250 00:58:25,790 --> 00:58:28,380 but we do still have the paintings. 1251 00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:30,800 - After he stopped recording The Joy of Painting, 1252 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,670 Bob went home to Florida 1253 00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:35,220 and remained very private in his final months. 1254 00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:38,960 Bob's life had always been about sharing 1255 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,330 the joy of painting with others. 1256 00:58:41,330 --> 00:58:43,920 And even as his life was coming to an end, 1257 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,060 he wanted to find a way to share his love of 1258 00:58:46,060 --> 00:58:49,150 painting and wildlife with children, 1259 00:58:49,150 --> 00:58:51,300 and so he teamed up with a crew from Muncie 1260 00:58:51,300 --> 00:58:53,700 to produce a children's program called 1261 00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:56,490 The Adventures of Elmer and friends, 1262 00:58:56,490 --> 00:59:00,230 but he was too ill to travel to Indiana to shoot the pilot. 1263 00:59:00,230 --> 00:59:01,820 So the crew came to Florida and 1264 00:59:01,820 --> 00:59:04,540 recorded Bob's parts from his home. 1265 00:59:04,540 --> 00:59:06,430 - I'll bet the trees and animals knew all 1266 00:59:06,430 --> 00:59:09,200 about old Walters treasure like it says. 1267 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,740 - But how does that help us? 1268 00:59:11,740 --> 00:59:13,450 - I think you should talk to a tree. 1269 00:59:13,450 --> 00:59:15,200 - Talk to a tree? 1270 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,160 We don't know any trees. 1271 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,570 - Yes we do. How about the happy little tree? 1272 00:59:19,570 --> 00:59:20,770 - The happy little tree? 1273 00:59:20,770 --> 00:59:23,170 You mean the one Bob always paints? 1274 00:59:23,170 --> 00:59:24,800 - Yeah that's a great idea, 1275 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,750 we can ask him about the diamonds. 1276 00:59:26,750 --> 00:59:27,940 - But where is he? 1277 00:59:27,940 --> 00:59:30,600 - He's in your imagination but there might 1278 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,140 be a picture of him in this book. 1279 00:59:33,140 --> 00:59:37,830 - It was really heartbreaking when we walked in 1280 00:59:37,830 --> 00:59:41,950 and saw Bob because we hadn't seen Bob in so long. 1281 00:59:41,950 --> 00:59:45,490 He lost a lot of weight, he'd lost a lot of hair. 1282 00:59:45,490 --> 00:59:47,310 Just not the Bob Ross that we knew 1283 00:59:48,170 --> 00:59:51,100 and God bless Bob he had the spirit 1284 00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:53,380 and he had the willingness to do it, 1285 00:59:53,380 --> 00:59:56,260 whether or not he had the energy was irrelevant. 1286 00:59:56,260 --> 00:59:57,860 - In the end Bob was only able 1287 00:59:57,860 --> 01:00:00,540 to participate in the pilot episode. 1288 01:00:00,540 --> 01:00:05,150 On July 4th 1995, Bob Ross died of lymphoma. 1289 01:00:05,150 --> 01:00:06,910 He was 52 years old. 1290 01:00:06,910 --> 01:00:08,860 - He really touched a lot of people and 1291 01:00:11,810 --> 01:00:12,980 made a difference in their lives 1292 01:00:12,980 --> 01:00:14,810 and I think the painting made a difference 1293 01:00:14,810 --> 01:00:16,560 but what he said made a difference. 1294 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,390 I think we're all looking for hope in life, even today 1295 01:00:20,419 --> 01:00:23,730 and will always be and I think he was selling hope 1296 01:00:23,730 --> 01:00:26,040 as much as he was selling painting. 1297 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,140 - He was just a wonderful wonderful man 1298 01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:30,620 and we were so lucky to have him come 1299 01:00:30,620 --> 01:00:32,870 and spend the time that he did with us. 1300 01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:34,020 He was our friend. 1301 01:00:35,130 --> 01:00:36,320 He was our best friend. 1302 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,410 - Bob's legacy lives on 1303 01:00:38,410 --> 01:00:42,000 through the thousands of instructors who teach his method. 1304 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,020 - When I'm painting I feel like 1305 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,490 he's there with me, guiding me. 1306 01:00:53,284 --> 01:00:55,260 It's so funny, it's an emotional thing. 1307 01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:58,710 I can't describe how emotional painting 1308 01:00:58,710 --> 01:01:00,680 can be for people and for me. 1309 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,030 - We continue to certify teachers at 1310 01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:05,900 the same rate as when he was alive. 1311 01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:08,670 There's probably 2,000 of them now 1312 01:01:08,670 --> 01:01:10,480 and they're all over the world. 1313 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,760 - And Bob himself still lives on through his 1314 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,740 TV series The Best of The Joy of Painting. 1315 01:01:15,740 --> 01:01:17,580 Blue Ridge PBS in Roanoke, Virginia 1316 01:01:17,580 --> 01:01:20,760 presents the program to America's public television stations 1317 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,470 where more than 90% of the country 1318 01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:25,710 can still watch bob paint happy little trees each week. 1319 01:01:25,710 --> 01:01:28,850 - Who knew that like 30 some odd years later 1320 01:01:28,850 --> 01:01:31,170 the shows are still running on TV. 1321 01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:32,930 That's just fantastic. 1322 01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:37,430 - There was a lot of pressure on us right after we lost Bob 1323 01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:41,760 to replace him with another painter and we talked about it. 1324 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,200 I think the smartest decision we ever made 1325 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,710 was not to replace Bob with anybody else. 1326 01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:50,580 He just will live forever. 1327 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,070 - This is 28 years later now and I can tell you 1328 01:01:55,070 --> 01:01:56,770 the phone calls that we get today 1329 01:01:57,660 --> 01:02:00,610 are identical to the calls we were getting 28 years ago, 1330 01:02:00,610 --> 01:02:03,200 this is a new generation of viewers now. 1331 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,750 I don't think a lot of people 1332 01:02:04,750 --> 01:02:08,950 understand the age range and the lives he's touched. 1333 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,900 College students, young kids, old, 1334 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,100 middle of the road, it's incredible, 1335 01:02:17,940 --> 01:02:19,890 but yet the one thing is that man's legacy 1336 01:02:19,890 --> 01:02:23,110 does not go away, nor should it. 1337 01:02:23,110 --> 01:02:26,950 What he's given many people have imitated, never duplicated, 1338 01:02:28,190 --> 01:02:30,340 but what a ride it was. 1339 01:02:30,340 --> 01:02:35,270 - I miss him and I'm sure his millions of fans do as well. 1340 01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:38,680 - Until next time, on behalf of all the personnel here, 1341 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,520 my partner's Walt and Annette Kowalski, 1342 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,600 I'd like to wish you happy painting. 1343 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,670 God bless my friend. 1344 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,920 - The thing I love the most about it is he'll go, 1345 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,730 and then we'll put a little tree in here, 1346 01:03:22,730 --> 01:03:25,700 dip dip dip do do, maybe it needs a friend, 1347 01:03:25,700 --> 01:03:27,570 and maybe another friend. 1348 01:03:27,570 --> 01:03:28,710 I just love that. 1349 01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:30,710 - And you'd see like there'd be a part of the canvas 1350 01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:34,140 that's done and he would be like I'm gonna put this here. 1351 01:03:34,140 --> 01:03:36,530 All of a sudden there's a cottage. 1352 01:03:36,530 --> 01:03:37,990 Where'd that come from? 1353 01:03:39,410 --> 01:03:41,470 - I don't know if I agree with Bob on that 1354 01:03:41,470 --> 01:03:42,730 that anyone can paint. 1355 01:03:42,730 --> 01:03:45,690 I think anyone can do it anyone can enjoy it, 1356 01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:47,390 so in that sense everybody should. 1357 01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:53,490 I've seen some paintings that shouldn't have happened. 106957

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