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I'll give you a boost
if you want.
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I don't need your help.
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Ooh. Hell,
she got you, buddy.
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Toss them beers.
Here you go.
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You got it?
Okay, let's go!
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All right. All right.
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Hold up, hold up!
The beer.
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Take this. Take this.
Come on.
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These damn shoes!
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Whoo! Come on in, it's warm!
Come on, buddy!
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Look, you can even
wash your hair!
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I washed mine last month.
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Whoo!
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Laura, Keith, come here!
Look what I found.
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- Holy shit.
- What the hell's that?
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- What is it?
- The hell you doing?
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Get out of here, now!
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Geez!
Come on!
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Goddamn kids.
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Turn off the beam, fool!
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Steve from Dow,
Ted from Union Carbide...
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Jerry from Exxon
and Andy from Allied.
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Welcome to Taft Law, gentlemen.
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Before we get started,
a little housekeeping.
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Um, all of you know
this young man
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as the dedicated Taft associate
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who for the past eight years has
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buried himself
in the Superfund law.
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I'm not paying for that cleanup.
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Still it is my pleasure
to share with you
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thatjust last week, Rob Bilott
was welcomed as a partner
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here at Taft,
Stettinius & Hollister.
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Good morning. Taft Law.
One moment. l'll connect you.
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Good morning. Taft Law.
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One moment, please.
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It's the Governor's office
calling for uh,
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calling for Mr. Burke.
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May I help you?
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Wilbur Tennant
calling on Robbie Bilott.
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EPA has saddled them
with the whole bill
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and given your client's
history at that site,
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that's a real possibility.
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I'll take it back to them.
Good. Tab 12, Middletown...
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I know. I'm sorry.
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But they won't leave.
Who's they?
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I don't know.
They say they know you.
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Um...
Robert Bilott?
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Um, yes.
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They call it a landfill.
A dump's what it is.
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They told my brother and me
no chemicals, just trash.
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Butwe ain't stupid.
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I made them videotapes myself.
All the proof you need.
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They're poisonin' the creek,
killing my animals.
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I'm in the middle of a meeting.
So, lwant a lawyer.
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Every damn one in Parkersburg's
too yella to take my case.
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Rob. He wants you
back in there.
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They all scared shitless
at DuPont.
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Well, I ain't scared of nobody.
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Okay.
Kathleen is my paralegal.
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She's gonna give you
a directory of lawyers.
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That's why
I called your grandma.
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What?
My neighbor who tells me,
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call Alma White.
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Her grandson's some fancy
environment lawyer down in Cincinnati.
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Sir, lam a corporate
defense attorney.
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So?
I defend chemical companies.
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Well, now you can defend me.
Rob!
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Uh, 30 seconds, Tom.
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Uh, I'm sorry, Mr...
Tennant
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I can offer you a referral.
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But I just don't see
how I can be of any help to you.
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You can start by watching them tapes
for one thing.
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Oh, let's go, Earl.
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I'm sorry.
I... I wish you all the luck.
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I don't need
your damn luck, boy!
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- I need your help!
- Rob!
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Come on.
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I'm not arguing
with the overall analysis.
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My only point is that
whatever we decide upon...
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Do you know where we're going?
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There's a place
right around the corner.
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Yeah? What the hell
was that all about?
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He knows my grandmother.
Really?
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Well, my mom's from
West Virginia.
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Uh, from a town, Parkersburg.
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Not us. My...
my father was Air Force.
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We...
We moved around a lot,
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but we spent the summers there.
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Come on, Terp. You're buying.
Of course I am.
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You can be
from West Virginia, Rob.
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I won't tell anyone.
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All right, gentlemen.
Morton's it is.
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Still deigned to eat
with us lowly associates?
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You can't drive an American car.
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Taft-Hartley, union busting?
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We practically invented it.
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"We?"
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Besides, I know
a highly esteemed partner
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who still drives American.
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Some real clunkers too.
Okay,
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yeah, buthe collects them.
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That's different.
Like his
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no-name college and law school.
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No offense.
Are you listening to this?
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Hey, you guys go ahead,
all right?
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Look, I didn't mean anything by it.
No. I gotta make a call.
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It's all right.
I'll see you there.
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Okay, we'll save you a fish log.
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You can be such an asshole.
Karla, itwas ajoke.
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- Yeah.
- We always joke.
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Oh, yeah. You guys are
a couple ofjokesters.
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You�fve reached the residence
of Alma White.
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I can't come to the phone
right now...
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He's good. He's home
early tonight actually.
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Tell him I said, howdy, partner.
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She says,
"Howdy, partner."
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Are we ever gonna
see him again on Sundays?
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Yes, he can still come
to Sunday dinners, Mom.
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He's a partner, not the President
of the United States.
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I wanna make...
Do you have my Bundt pan?
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Returned it.
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Where?
I looked under the counter.
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It's the right hand cupboard,
in the plastic. Yeah.
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Okay, well, we just sat down.
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All right, dear.
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So, I gotta go.
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Love to Rob and Teddy.
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All right, see you Sunday.
Love to Dad.
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Talk to you later.
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Can you pretend to be
surprised about the cake?
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She wants it to be very special.
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Oh, and the granite samples
came in.
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Can you pick them up
on your way home tomorrow?
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Mmm.
Rob?
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Hmm? Uh, sure.
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You okay?
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Yes.
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Bless us, our Lord and thy gifts
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which we are about to receive
from thy bounty
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through Christ our Lord. Amen.
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Thank you, God.
Thank you for our family.
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Thank you.
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Hi, Grammers.
What on earth!
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I tried to call,
but you weren't picking up.
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Oh, well, you know me.
My two fake knees.
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What are you doing here?
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A farmer came to see me.
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Wilbur Tennant?
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You do know him.
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I don't socialize with him,
if that's what you mean.
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Inez Graham owned the farm
next to his.
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used to take you and Beth
over there when you were little.
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That's the place?
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Hmm.
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You rode that pony.
Ah!
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I loved that place.
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Saw a cow for the first time.
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Learned to milk it.
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I remember
you sittin' there for hours
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making sure you got
every last drop.
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Just like you.
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There.
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Hmm.
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So you gonna help him?
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Huh?
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You come up the holler,
dump's up the hill.
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Since I started
complaining about my creek,
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fence goes up.
All blocked off.
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Hi, I'm Rob.
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Sandra.
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The State, any veterinarian
I've called in Parkersburg,
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they will not
return my phone calls.
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Like I bite the hand that feeds.
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No, it's all right. I've already...
This here's a gall.
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Look at the size of it.
Ain't never seen
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no gall that big.
Bigger than the heart.
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That your cows'?
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Look at them teeth.
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Black as night. Here.
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Hoof, all turned in on itself.
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Half my calves born
with hooves like that.
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Tumor, I done
cut off the back a heifer.
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How'd ya like
that on your table?
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What am I looking for?
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You blind, boy?
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Stones as white
as the hairs on my head.
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Bleached! That's chemicals,
I'm telling ya.
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My animals drink this water.
Cool off in �eer.
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Get them bloody welts,
them dead eyes.
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Charge at me, crazy-like.
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Animals that used to eat
out of my own hand.
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Where are the rest of them?
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Come on.
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Beginnin�f, l�fd bury �eem.
Each one. They're family.
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It got to be so many,
pile �eem up, set fire to...
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How many did you lose?
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190.
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190 cows?
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You tell me
nothing�fs wrong here.
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And this landfill
wasn�ft always here?
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No. My brother Jim used to
dig ditches over at the DuPont plant.
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Got sick, couldn't
do it no more.
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One day they come to him, offering to buy
his land right up that holler.
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They promised no chemicals.
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And I assume you
reached out to DuPont?
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DuPont, the State, the Feds.
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I called everybody
there is dozens of times.
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EPA finally comes out here.
Oh, they did.
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All for some report.
What did it say?
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You think they're gonna show me?
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Okay.
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He�fs been like this all day.
Okay. Go on.
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Of course, you're
a perfect angel for Daddy.
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Did you get the tile?
Um, I�fm sorry. No.
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Rob.
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I didn't drive into town today.
I�fm sorry.
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What do you mean
you didn't drive into town?
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I had to go to Parkersburg.
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Parkersburg? Why�fd you
have to go to Parkersburg?
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I may have a client there.
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In West Virginia? What kind
of a case would you have?
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He�fs a farmer. He knows
my Grammer. Not well, but...
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So, you saw her?
Was your mother there?
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Oh, come on, Sarah. I didn't
sneak off to see my mother.
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So, why did you sneak off?
I didn't.
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Our speaker tonight�fs no
stranger to the Taft family.
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Phillip Donnelly, Phil to us,
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serves as in-house
Corporate Counsel at DuPont.
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Not only one of America�fs most
revered chemical companies,
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but one ofthe few
giants of the industry
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that Taft doesn�ft represent.
Not yet anyway!
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That�fs the spirit, James.
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We asked Phil here tonight,
not just to show him what he�fs missing,
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but to hear how a renowned
leader of our industry
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stays that way.
Please welcome Phil Donnelly.
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Wish me luck.
Go get �eem, Phil!
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Thank you.
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At DuPont, we�fre not producing
chemicals for chemical�fs sake.
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We�fre producing them
for people�fs sake.
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To make folks�f lives easier.
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Happier, longer.
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That�fs why better living
through chemistry
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is not just a slogan at DuPont.
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It�fs our DNA.
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Hey, Rob.
Hello, Phil.
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Is it true what Tom tells me?
Yeah, it�fs true.
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Well, good on them. They're lucky to have you.
Thanks, PhH.
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Like I always tell
my younger associates,
250
00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:40,789
just keep your head down
and do the work.
251
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,031
Thanks. Uh, Phil, can I ask
you sort of an odd question?
252
00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:46,473
Shoot
253
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,153
Does the name
Wilbur Tennant ring a bell?
254
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,230
Tennet, did you say?
Tennant
255
00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:54,078
No. Not that I recall.
256
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,753
Mr. Tennant�fs a farmer
from West Virginia.
257
00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,076
His property abuts one of
your landfills, Dry Run.
258
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,832
And his cows
have been getting sick.
259
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,992
He thinks possibly because of the runoff
from the landfill into his creek.
260
00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:07,832
You're kidding me.
How did this come to you?
261
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,070
Hey, Phil!
He�fs a farmer. He�fs...
262
00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:14,076
My grandmother�fs
from Parkersburg.
263
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,230
Really? Washington Works.
Great plant.
264
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,867
Right. She knows the Tennants.
So Grandma�fs on your back?
265
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,711
Something like that.
Anyway, uh...
266
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,555
The farmer said the EPA came out,
took a look around. I wondered...
267
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,596
The name of the landfill again?
Dry Run.
268
00:20:28,079 --> 00:20:29,718
Dry Run. Dry...
269
00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:32,096
You know, that does ring
a bell, now that you mention it.
270
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,951
We may have even sent
some folks out there.
271
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,155
If I remember correctly,
help EPA check it out.
272
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,471
That�fs gotta be it. So, I�fd
love to share whatever came of that
273
00:20:39,559 --> 00:20:41,596
with Mr. Tennant.
Help settle his nerves.
274
00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:44,512
Absolutely. Soon as I�fm back
in Wilmington,
I�fll take a look.
275
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,478
Thanks, PhH. I really appreciate it.
Happy to do it.
276
00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:50,955
Now, let�fs get a drink and
toast you, my friend. You.
277
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,035
Okay.
278
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,473
Mr. Tennant!
279
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,038
Mr. Tennant,
I have the report.
280
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,396
Sons of bitches!
Who the hell they think they are?
281
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,191
Who gives them the right?
It�fs an evaluation.
282
00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:24,077
Evalu, Hatchet job�fs what it is.
283
00:21:25,079 --> 00:21:28,230
I been farming my
entire life. Entire life!
284
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,557
You read that. You tell me
you recognize my farm.
285
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,073
Mr. Tennant...
Read it!
286
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,993
"The herd health
investigation revealed
287
00:21:39,079 --> 00:21:41,388
"deficiency in herd management.
288
00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:44,673
"Including poor nutrition,
289
00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:49,871
"inadequate veterinary care
and lack of fly control."
290
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,677
You see any flies here?
291
00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:53,868
It�fs snowing.
292
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,349
Can�ft stop making excuses
for �eem, can you?
293
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,952
It could be pests.
They consulted a vet.
294
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,791
Whose vet? DuPont?
295
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,828
Look at yourself. Swallowin�f
whole, whatever they been feeding ya.
296
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,147
Can�ft tell truth from lie.
297
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,079
You even watch them tapes
I gave you?
298
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,356
Sir, lam trying to help!
Quiet.
299
00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:21,473
Trying to help.
Stop movin�f.
300
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,509
Easy, now. Easy.
301
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,474
Get in. Slow.
302
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,193
Forgive me, girl.
303
00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:31,038
Jesus.
304
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,797
Need something to warm you up
right about now?
305
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:30,550
Well, how about this?
306
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,955
Blue Ridge Mountains,
Shenandoah River
307
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,308
Life is old there,
older than the trees
308
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,468
Younger than the mountains
Blowing like the breeze
309
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:03,038
Country roads, take me home
310
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,118
To the place...
311
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,153
I belong
312
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,999
West Virginia...
313
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,873
mountain mama
314
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,316
Take me home...
315
00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:22,469
this cow�fs eyes are cloudy with pink eyes
is what they�fll call it.
316
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,148
Anyway, her eyes are sunk
way back in her head.
317
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,030
She�fs poor as a whippoorwill.
318
00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:35,435
And I�fm gonna cut her open
and find out what caused her to die.
319
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,957
Because I was feeding
her enough feed...
320
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:40,394
that she should've gained
weight instead of losin�f weight.
321
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,077
This is what
her teeth looks like.
322
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,671
That�fs the upper one.
323
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:52,435
But this one here, I�fve never seen
anything like it in my lifetime.
324
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,240
Even the veterinarian,
he admitted...
325
00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:58,868
he never saw anything
like this before in his life either.
326
00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:13,310
So, what are you
proposing we do?
327
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,996
File a claim, trigger discovery
and find out what�fs in that landfill.
328
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,996
You wanna sue DuPont?
Targeted.
329
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,714
Property dispute. Routine stuff.
Not routine. Not around here.
330
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,359
I know, but, Tom,
ifyou�fd actually seen it.
331
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,552
His farm is like a graveyard.
There�fs something very wrong.
332
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,200
So, he should
hire a local lawyer.
333
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:38,117
None of them will do it.
They're all terrified of DuPont.
334
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:40,430
Well, what does that tell you?
We know DuPont.
335
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,712
They're gonna wanna hear
336
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,472
if some of their local guys
are screwing something up.
337
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,551
Oh, so they're gonna
thank us for suing.
338
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,198
Better us than the EPA.
339
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,953
I mean, new partners are supposed
to bring in business, right?
340
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:55,429
So, your farmer
can swing 275 an hour?
341
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,431
It�fd be on contingency.
342
00:26:58,039 --> 00:27:01,076
Jesus. What are we,
coupon chasers now?
343
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,913
It�fs a small matter for a family friend.
I�fll get in anlelgetout
344
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,669
Help a guy that needs it.
Who? The farmer or you?
345
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,030
Surgical. You hear me?
346
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,439
Absolutely. Thank you.
347
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:41,792
Even though, I was,
I admit, a little surprised.
348
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:44,275
Imean, getting sued by Taft Law.
349
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,838
It�fs not every day.
Or any day, frankly.
350
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,318
I know. I�fm sorry.
351
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,914
Look, you and l are friends.
This is a minor issue.
352
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,194
No reason it should get messy.
353
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:59,114
Thank you. I totally agree.
Yeah, I�fm putting you on speaker phone.
354
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,431
So, you wanna know
if we violated our permits.
355
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,755
Pretty much, yeah.
356
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,038
Okay, then. I�fll have our
guys send over anything...
357
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,429
related to hazardous wastes
at Dry Run.
358
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:14,671
And I�fll tell them to hurry it up
this time. How�fs that?
359
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:18,308
Thank you. That sounds great.
And don't stress. I forgive you.
360
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,749
Thanks, PhH.
361
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:43,318
You took your baby
into the office?
362
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,471
I needed a bigger trunk.
Why?
363
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:49,587
Discovery for the Tennant
case came in today.
364
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,673
Oh. Oh, you started before me.
You're so fast! Whoa.
365
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:56,557
Good boy.
366
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,550
Rob�fs missing such a lovely day.
367
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:02,671
Law�fs a jealous mistress, Mom.
Means it comes with the territory.
368
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:04,118
Let�fs go over here!
369
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,352
Nice! Thank you! That�fs what
I�fm talking about right there.
370
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,240
All right. Let�fs go.
One more. One more. All right.
371
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,315
Poly...
372
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,628
Is that...
373
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,952
No.
374
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,157
How�fs my favorite plaintiff�fs attorney?
Hey, help me out, will ya?
375
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,634
You're a run of a mill
dump, nothing but trash.
376
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:07,313
You sound like
my first girlfriend.
377
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,674
Conspiracy.
Standard size drums.
378
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:20,788
Ash, ash-byproduct, glass tubing, plastic,
paper waste. It�fs just trash.
379
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,877
You pile it onto a truck, drive it away.
You don't pack it into drums.
380
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,355
So, they�fve got liquid waste.
Not hazardous.
381
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,150
Or they�fd have to disclose it.
So, what is killing these cows?
382
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,753
It�fs not paper and ash.
Well, maybe it�fs human error.
383
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,240
They're dumping something
in there they don't know is toxic.
384
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,598
Kim, it�fs DuPont. They know
more than the EPA does.
385
00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:41,671
Everyone knows more
than the EPA does.
386
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:43,796
Why else would they
let us regulate ourselves?
387
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:48,873
What?
Do we?
388
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:50,512
Do we what?
389
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,872
The EPA only started
regulating chemicals in �e76.
390
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,028
Yeah?
391
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:59,669
They grandfather in every
existing chemical, non-hazardous,
392
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,719
unless they knew it was hazardous
or a company told them itwas.
393
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:06,512
We�fre saying the same thing.
No, we�fre not. I�fm saying
394
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:10,115
what if a company didn't tell?
395
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:13,511
What if
396
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,394
the reason Phil Donnelly
agreed to discovery on hazardous
397
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:19,112
is because he knows
398
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,832
whatever�fs in that landfill
isn�ft even regulated?
399
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,952
Okay, now you are sounding
like a plaintiff�fs attorney.
400
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,153
I�fve got a meeting.
Hey, oh, wait, one second.
401
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,188
Have you heard of this,
um, PFOA?
402
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:35,234
No.
403
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,715
You know, it�fs mentioned
here, but I can�ft find anything about it
404
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,268
in any of the literature.
I don't even know if it�fs a chemical.
405
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:44,876
Ask Phil.
Well, thank you.
406
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,159
As I said, Mr. Donnelly
is still out of town.
407
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:51,914
I called last week and left
two messages and haven�ft
heard back from him.
408
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,839
I�fll be sure to tell him
that you called again.
409
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,592
Okay. Damn it.
410
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,314
Your tickets to the
Chemical Alliance dinner.
Argh...
411
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,478
And, no, dark suit is not
the same as black tie.
412
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:05,108
Wouldn't he be going?
413
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,030
I don't know if Rob told you,
but I was a receptionist
at Taft
414
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:40,633
before law school.
Is that right?
415
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,675
Butwell, I think the
right Bilott ended up there.
416
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:44,432
Harold, you're not
getting away from me.
417
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,396
Would you excuse me?
Sure, itwas...
418
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,835
It�fs great to see you.
VVhenisthe�h.
419
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,875
That�fs funny.
420
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,358
Right away, I saw a little
of myself in Rob.
421
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:56,635
Oh!
One black sheep to another.
422
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:59,108
My dad was a steel
worker, you know.
Was he?
423
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,191
Have you seen Phil?
424
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,232
No.
425
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:06,910
So, you're an attorney?
Oh, recovering.
426
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,667
I represented employers
in workmen�fs comp disputes.
427
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,035
But now, I stay at home
with our baby.
428
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:14,920
Well, that�fs the thing
with lady lawyers.
429
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,215
I wanna say hi
to the Dow folks.
Have you seen them?
430
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,673
No, I�fve been looking for Phil.
431
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:20,240
Did I tell you they
sent me some work?
432
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:23,789
Dow? That�fs great!
Just a small project.
Like a try-out.
433
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,155
But if! impress them,
can you imagine
if! brought on Dow?
434
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,799
None for me, thank you.
435
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,914
You're not...
436
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:35,079
I'm, uh...
437
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,270
You're... She's...
438
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:39,998
I'm...
439
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:42,952
I'm gonna wait as long
as I can to tell the
firm. Obviously.
440
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:44,637
Would you excuse
us for a moment?
441
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,789
These lady lawyers
need a quick sidebar.
442
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,272
Of course.
No. No.
443
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:50,480
He signs your paycheck.
Be nice to him.
Don't leave me.
444
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,388
Congratulations.
I know.
I can't believe it.
445
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:02,388
Excuse me.
446
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:13,347
Rob, how are you?
447
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,815
Phil, I've been
trying to reach you.
448
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,735
So sorry, all this traveling.
How about I give you
a shout tomorrow?
449
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,615
We're gonna need to
broaden discovery
to everything
450
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,391
in that landfill,
hazardous or not.
451
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:25,594
Excuse me.
452
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,079
You kidding me?
453
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:29,159
No.
454
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,835
I think whatever's
causing the problems
in there
455
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,992
isn't something
the EPA regulates or
knows to regulate.
456
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:38,599
Sorry?
457
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,030
I'm seeing things
in your documents
I don't understand.
458
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,320
You're seeing ghosts,
is what you're seeing,
and frankly,
459
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,753
you're making an
ass of yourself.
460
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,512
Okay, then, help me out.
461
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:48,827
I mean, like this.
462
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,150
I mean, what is this PFOA?
463
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,512
What's that stand for?
464
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,634
Jesus.
465
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,994
You're on a goddamn
fishing expedition.
466
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:03,108
You wanna flush your
career down the toilet
467
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:04,235
for some cowhand?
468
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,878
Be my guest. I'm
done helping you.
469
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,427
Phil, I need to insist
on broadening discovery.
470
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,795
Sue me!
Uh...
471
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,954
I'm already suing you.
472
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:13,233
Welcome, everyone,
473
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,789
to the 14th Annual Ohio
Chemical Alliance...
474
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,472
Fuck you!
Awards dinner.
475
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,514
Hick!
476
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,992
So, let�fs get the fun started!
477
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,512
I'm sorry.
478
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:53,556
You're not the only
one who's sacrificed.
479
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,076
Ljust hope you know
what you're doing.
480
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,976
You know the difference
between business and
pleasure, right?
481
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,628
So, why on earth
would you engage in
business conversations
482
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,630
- at a public function?
- Tom!
483
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,954
He's hiding something.
You saw his reaction.
484
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:21,836
Yeah, me and everyone
in that room.
485
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,797
Taft in a pissing
match with DuPont.
486
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,791
I am gonna get
a court order
and force them
487
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,255
to tell me everything
that's in that landfill.
488
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,588
Jesus Christ! Now you
wanna actually take
them to court.
489
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,715
And I'm gonna need
local counsel in
West Virginia.
490
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,391
What happened to routine stuff?
491
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,356
Ask Phil Donnelly.
God!
492
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,507
Of course, I remember you.
493
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,114
Yeah, last time I saw you,
Ithink Phil Donnelly was
494
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,474
trying to get you to go
out on the links with us.
495
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:44,594
Yeah.
496
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,548
You what?
497
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,713
Sir.
Thank you.
498
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,034
Good morning.
499
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:15,958
Good morning, Larry.
Morning.
500
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,800
Morning, Miss Claire.
501
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:26,751
Don't you look nice.
502
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,239
Save it for the
judge, Mr. Winter.
503
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,987
You're suing DuPont.
504
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:38,074
Yes, ma'am.
505
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,472
You represent DuPont.
506
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:41,559
My old firm did.
507
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:43,960
I've been out on
my own for a while.
508
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:46,907
Good luck with that.
509
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,835
Just wanted to
let you know personally
510
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,275
that your court-ordered
discovery is on the way.
511
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,952
Thanks, PhH.
512
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:01,110
No, it's my pleasure.
513
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,509
Discovery.
514
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,998
Son of a bitch.
515
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,434
No admission of liability.
516
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,958
And non...
517
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,833
Non-disclosure of
any and all terms.
518
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:34,755
Pardon me a moment.
519
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:51,233
Thanks.
520
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:53,956
Holy Jesus!
521
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,318
What in the...
Thanks.
522
00:38:58,159 --> 00:38:59,353
World?
523
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,550
Lguessthe joke's on me.
524
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:02,639
Yeah.
525
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:05,936
No one can go
through all this crap.
Not in a million years.
526
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,000
Yeah, I'm pretty sure
that's what they're
banking on.
527
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:12,755
Oh, God! Damn it!
Oh, God, Rob!
528
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:21,231
Here, let me...
No, no, no, you shouldn't
be around this stuff.
529
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,275
Yeah.
530
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,835
Good luck.
531
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,793
1957.
532
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,351
Hey, Sally,
what is the hold up
back here?
533
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:03,800
Hey, Bobby. How you...
What're you having?
534
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:07,039
UsuaL
535
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,557
Eggs over bacon and grits.
536
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:13,228
Same.
537
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,155
I need two over, grits, fried.
538
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,954
WlLBUR:
Wilbur Tennant.
539
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,429
- He's not in his office.
- Can I take a message?
540
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:36,034
I been leaving messages.
I know, Mr. Tennant,
541
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:38,190
but he really can't get
to the phone right now.
542
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,599
I want service!
543
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:42,400
I'll let him know
that you called again.
For Christ's sakes.
544
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,313
Is she getting accustomed
to being at Mom and Dad's?
545
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,157
You know Grammer.
She misses her own house.
546
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,673
What?
She misses her own house.
547
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:54,032
I have a bad cell.
548
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:56,394
I said Grammer
misses her own house.
549
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,913
Okay, can you...
550
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,634
Can I talk to her?
551
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,000
She and Mom are at the doctor's.
552
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:04,353
Will you tell Grammers
lcaHed?
Rob, you're breaking up.
553
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,509
And Mom too?
554
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:07,157
Let�fs try again on Sunday.
All right.
555
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,188
IIC_8-ll
556
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,795
You know you look like
a crazy person, right?
557
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,235
What was the name of that guy
that you brought by the...
558
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,989
What guy?
The chemistry expert.
559
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:33,876
The guy who does the models.
Gillespie.
560
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:38,039
Here you go.
561
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:40,039
Thank you.
562
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,231
Kim Burke
had an expense account.
563
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,032
Are you familiar
with something called PFOA?
564
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,755
No.
565
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,793
No.
No.
566
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,990
I did read something recently
about a PFOS, I think itwas.
567
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:05,077
That sounds related.
And what was that?
568
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,677
Long-chain fluorocarbon,
synthetic.
569
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,076
I'm sorry. Chemistry was
my worst class in high school.
570
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,512
Boy, you in the wrong
line of work.
571
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,954
Tell me about it. So?
572
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,833
So, synthetic. All right?
Man-made.
573
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,034
Frankenstein.
574
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,909
And?
575
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:29,713
Long-chain fluorocarbon
is a sequence of carbon atoms,
add a fluoride.
576
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,753
All right. In the lab
you take a carbon atom...
Mmm-hmm.
577
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:39,559
And then another
578
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,038
and another... Look.
579
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:46,358
You're making a chain. Right?
580
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,231
Right?
Could it be...
581
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:54,115
Eight? Eight carbons?
582
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,760
Well, sure. Yeah, In the lab
you can do almost anything.
583
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,677
And why would you want to?
Make this, I mean.
584
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,394
Well, a chain like that's
pretty much unbreakable,
biochemically speaking.
585
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,391
So, uh, industrial uses,
I imagine.
586
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,639
3M made it.
587
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:14,230
They don't anymore.
That's what I read.
588
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,320
Why did they stop?
Didn't say.
589
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,800
What if...
590
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,952
What if you drank it?
591
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:27,599
Drank it?
592
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,237
You don't.
Well, what if you did?
593
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,916
Ready to order?
Yeah, Ithink
I'd like a...
594
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:35,188
But what if you did?
595
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,074
That's like saying,
"What if I swallowed a tire?"
596
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,108
I don't know. You wanna be
the guy that finds out?
597
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,800
Tuna melt.
598
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:10,188
Let us all begin
with hymn number 452
in our hymnal books.
599
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,237
"Here lAm, Lord."
Please rise.
600
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:21,036
L, the Lord of sea and sky
601
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:25,556
l have heard my people cry
602
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:30,271
All who dwell in deepest sin
603
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,235
My hand will save
604
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,753
Does it makes sounds?
605
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,193
Asteroid ahead.
606
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,313
You hold like that.
607
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,550
Are you ready to blast off?
608
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,757
I'm taking off that.
609
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:32,992
You said it had fluoride?
610
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,391
What?
Mr. Bilott, it's Sunday.
611
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:38,193
That chemical, you said
it had a fluoride atom.
612
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,751
It's a fluorocarbon, so, yes.
Somewhere along the chain...
613
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,195
What would it do
to your teeth
if you drank it?
614
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,389
Don't tell me
ifyou shouldn't,
if you did.
615
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,639
Ifyou drank a lot of it,
what would it do
to your teeth?
616
00:46:52,514 --> 00:46:52,599
Well, in trace amounts
fluoride hardens teeth.
617
00:46:52,601 --> 00:46:57,309
But too much,
it's gonna stain 'em.
lmean, even turn 'em black.
618
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,677
So, can lget back
to my family now?
619
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,547
What? Where are you going?
620
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,514
It's in their water.
What? What is?
621
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:48,474
How long's the coughing been?
622
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,713
WlLBUR: Couple...
Couple of months.
623
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,239
A year.
624
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,315
- You a smoker?
- No.
625
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:01,000
Roll up your sleeve.
We're gonna take some blood.
626
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:18,478
Thought you left him inside.
I did.
627
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:24,387
Oh, baby.
628
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:35,199
You move this?
629
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:37,159
What?
630
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,594
Did you go through this?
No!
631
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:45,719
They been here.
632
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:48,594
They been here!
633
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,588
What happened?
634
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,400
Wash up.
635
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,755
Dad?
636
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:35,554
What is it?
Quiet.
637
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,150
WlLBUR: This is my land,
damn you! You get out of here!
638
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,954
Go on!
639
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,514
Go on!
640
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,074
Sandra, girls, get on!
Go on, get in! Get in!
641
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:02,512
I know you!
642
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,875
Rob?
643
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:45,076
Holy crap, Rob!
What?
644
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,958
I thought someone
was breaking in,
for God's sakes!
645
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:49,518
No, it'sjust me.
646
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:51,679
Rob, you need to tell me
what in the hell's going on.
647
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,119
We're being poisoned.
648
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,432
Rob.
What?
649
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:04,195
I mean it.
DuPont is knowingly
poisoning us.
650
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,554
You mean the farmer.
His land.
651
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,469
All of us.
652
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,152
Please don't look at me
like that.
653
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:15,431
They're already poisoning
the baby.
654
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,793
No. I'm not
listening to this.
Sarah.
655
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:21,797
Stop it!
Just stop it, okay?
656
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,438
Do you hear yourself?
You are acting
like a crazy person.
657
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:28,512
Tearing up our floor.
Scaring me half to death.
658
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:31,233
I know it's myjob
to support you, but that
does not mean
659
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,753
you get to come
into our home,
to our family
660
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,751
and tell me that
our unborn child
is being poisoned. No!
661
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,273
I'm sorry.
Can I please explain?
662
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,117
Explain what?
All of it.
663
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,992
And ifyou still think
I'm crazy, I'll drop it.
I swear to God.
664
00:53:48,679 --> 00:53:49,873
I swear to you.
665
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,356
There is a man-made chemical
666
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:12,634
that was invented
during the Manhattan project.
667
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:16,148
It repelled the elements,
especially water.
668
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,112
So they used it to make
the first ever waterproof
coating for tanks.
669
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:22,599
It was indestructible.
670
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:26,753
Then some companies thought,
"Hey, whyjust
the battlefield?
671
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,719
"Why not bring this chemical
into American homes?"
672
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,398
- Rob's here.
- All right. Good.
673
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,320
He'll see you now.
674
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,117
DuPont was one
of those companies.
675
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,393
So they took
this chemical, PF OA.
676
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:46,871
They renamed it C-8.
677
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,518
And they made their own
impenetrable coating,
678
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:53,233
but not for tanks. For pans.
679
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,632
They called it Teflon.
680
00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:00,635
A shining symbol
of American ingenuity,
681
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,914
made right here in the USA,
682
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,070
in Parkersburg, West Virginia.
683
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,230
But right from the start,
something wasn't right.
684
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,117
The men, and workers
who made Teflon
685
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:15,668
were coming down
with nausea, fevers.
686
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,193
DuPont wanted to know why.
687
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,512
So they laced cigarettes
with Teflon.
688
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:23,114
They told a group
of their workers,
"Hey, smoke these."
689
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,717
DuPonters did as they were told.
690
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,315
Almost all of those men
were hospitalized.
691
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,432
That's 1962.
692
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,958
One year after Teflon launched
and already DuPont knew.
693
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:44,228
The dust, theyjust sent
right up the smoke stacks,
released into the air.
694
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:47,634
The sludge,
tossed it
into the Ohio.
695
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,918
Or, uh, packed into drums
and chucked it
into the Chesapeake.
696
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,869
But then their drums
started washing up.
697
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,789
So, DuPont starts
digging ditches
698
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,835
on the grounds
of the Washington Works plant.
699
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,190
And in those pits, they dumped
700
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,875
thousands of tons
of toxic C-8 sludge and dust.
701
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,072
One ofthe men that they hired
to dig those ditches
702
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:11,833
was Wilbur Tennant�fs
brother Jim.
703
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,028
But they weren't the only ones
covering their tracks.
704
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:19,309
3M who pioneered
these chemicals
for Scotchgard,
705
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,798
they were testing them
on monkeys.
706
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,753
Most of the monkeys died.
707
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,755
It wasn't like DuPont
didn't know that because
708
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,148
they were doing
their own tests on rats.
709
00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:30,677
Watched their organs balloon.
710
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,751
Now the rats
are getting cancers.
711
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,949
Tested them on pregnant rats
and watched them give birth
712
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,355
to pups with deformed eyes.
713
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:44,277
So, they yanked
all the young women
off the Teflon line
714
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,034
and never told them why.
715
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,036
Sue Bailey�fs job was scrubbing
these huge steel vats
716
00:56:55,119 --> 00:56:58,157
where they held
the liquid C-8.
She was pregnant.
717
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:00,710
I love you!
Would you stop?
718
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,197
She gave birth to a baby
with one nostril
and a deformed eye.
719
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,829
Remember how DuPont
had seen those deformities
in the rats?
720
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:15,597
Oh, God.
What about his eyes?
721
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:18,230
Blue. Just like all newborns.
722
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,675
But they're normal,
the lids, the pupils?
723
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,230
Mr. Bilott, relax.
He's perfect.
724
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:27,190
Hey. Hi, Charlie.
725
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,873
So Sue goes to DuPont.
726
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,679
She says, �hWhy did you pull me
off the Teflon line?
727
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:38,110
�hDid C-8 make my baby
this way?" "No,"
they tell her.
728
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:42,556
Then all of her records
from her time
at Teflon disappear.
729
00:57:42,639 --> 00:57:47,315
One yearlater, they put
all of the women
back on Teflon
730
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,159
and never say a thing.
731
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,800
He's here.
732
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:03,751
DuPont knew everything.
733
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,230
They knew that the C-8
they put into the air
734
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,311
and buried into
the ground
for decades
735
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,072
was causing cancers.
736
00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:15,914
They knew that
their own workers
were getting these cancers.
737
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,036
They knew that
the consumers too
were being exposed
738
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:22,429
and notjust
in Teflon.
In paints,
739
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,197
in fabrics, in,
uh, raincoats, boots.
740
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,273
To this day...
741
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,478
For 40 years you knew
0-8 was poison.
742
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,949
You knew the "Happy Pan"
was a ticking time bomb.
743
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:43,119
And you knew exactly why.
744
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,510
Because C-8,
it stays in us forever.
745
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:48,318
Our bodies are incapable
of breaking it down.
746
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,192
And knowing all of this,
still you did nothing because
747
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,030
doing something,
748
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,878
"would essentially
put the long-term viability
749
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:03,952
"of this product�fs segment
on the line."
750
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:08,994
You were making too much money.
751
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,117
One billion dollars a year
just in profits,
just in Teflon.
752
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,954
And so you pumped
millions more pounds
753
00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:21,237
of toxic C-8 into the air,
into the water
754
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,472
so much so you could
actually see it foam.
755
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,757
0-8 was everywhere.
There was nowhere left
for you to contaminate.
756
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,070
And that�fs when
they came to Jim.
757
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,355
They knew he was sick
and needed the money
and they needed his land.
758
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:45,197
And when they got it,
they dug up all the C-8
759
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,157
from every single pit
at Washington Works.
760
00:59:48,239 --> 00:59:51,596
Fourteen million pounds
of toxic C-8 sludge
761
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,996
and they dumped it, again.
This time right up there.
762
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:58,152
Steps from your creek,
from your house.
763
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,150
That�fs what your cows
have been drinking, Earl.
764
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:08,715
Put 'em behind bars.
765
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,518
Whole damn lot of 'em,
right in jail.
766
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:12,032
I understand, believe me.
767
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:15,112
But this is a civil case.
The most we can hope for
is damages.
768
01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:19,233
Don't want no money!
Whole damn world need...
769
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:28,592
Needs to see what they done.
You're right. They should.
770
01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:32,753
And it kills me that they won�ft.
771
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,393
But that would mean
going to trial
772
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:38,949
and proving
that C-8 killed your cows.
773
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:41,679
And every scientist
who knows anything
about any of this
774
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,831
already works
for these chemical companies.
775
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,393
That�fs not an accident, Earl.
776
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:52,159
Earl, these companies,
they have all the money
all the time,
777
01:00:52,239 --> 01:00:53,672
and they�fll use it. Trust me.
778
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,552
I know. I was one of them.
779
01:00:57,039 --> 01:00:59,429
You're still one of 'em.
780
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:06,838
You can�ft be serious.
You know what I put
on the line here?
781
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,150
You want a prize? Some medal
�ecause for once in your life
782
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:12,673
you took the side
of the little guy?
783
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:16,311
Sorry, no prize.
All you get is your share
of this blood money.
784
01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:19,472
And you sleep
real good tonight.
Talk to your family.
785
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,150
It ain�ftjust my cows
was poisoned.
786
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,429
What do you think
I fed my family on?
787
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:27,757
Wilbur, please.
788
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,510
Leave this place!
789
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,594
Start over. Give your family
a fighting chance!
790
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,751
Too late for that.
791
01:01:41,679 --> 01:01:44,034
We got it, Sandra and me.
The cancer.
792
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,751
Surprise, surprise.
793
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,512
In here.
794
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:53,356
How�fd it go?
795
01:02:55,519 --> 01:02:56,748
What�fs wrong?
796
01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:59,079
Rob?
797
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:00,920
Rob, what is it?
798
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,552
What happened?
What happened?
799
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:11,190
Oh, honey, honey, honey.
800
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,349
You saw a man hurting and
801
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:19,474
you did the Christian thing.
You helped him.
802
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:24,396
How? How?
Either he dies penniless
803
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:27,518
or he lets DuPont
just keep pillaging
his community.
804
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:28,998
How is that helping?
805
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,351
Gotta get some sleep.
806
01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:50,038
I can�ft believe
a freaking case settlement
could shut this up.
807
01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:55,358
Have you read their
confidentiality agreements?
808
01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:58,878
You�fve uncovered
a threat to the public.
809
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,710
This goes beyond lawyering.
810
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,074
Thats�h.
That�fs all I know
is lawyering.
811
01:04:04,159 --> 01:04:06,434
Fine.
Then be the lawyer.
812
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,472
You know DuPont
better than anyone.
813
01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:09,867
What haven�ft they thought of?
814
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,795
God. Jesus,
Mary and Joseph.
815
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,280
What is that?
816
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,193
Uh, a memo and 136 exhibits.
817
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:51,030
Wil, Sandra, this is your copy.
818
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:15,355
The EPA announced
a public hearing
into this family of chemicals
819
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,907
I�fve been looking into.
I heard about it from Tucker.
820
01:06:18,199 --> 01:06:20,394
Monsanto Tucker?
Union Carbide now.
821
01:06:20,519 --> 01:06:21,559
He says to me, "Is it true
822
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:23,157
"that a Taft lawyer sent a
phone book�fs
823
01:06:23,239 --> 01:06:24,655
"worth of confidential
DuPont documents
824
01:06:24,679 --> 01:06:26,271
"to the entire
Federal government?"
825
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,954
Internal documents,
notconfidential
Very different.
826
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:31,110
- So you're testifying.
- I signed up to testify.
827
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:32,199
And the next thing I hear
828
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,271
is DuPont has petitioned ajudge
829
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,032
to stop me from testifying,
from flying to DC,
830
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:38,175
from even picking up the phone
831
01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:39,280
They filed for a gag order.
832
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,112
Yes! This is what
we�fre up against.
833
01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:42,427
- Jesus.
- David.
834
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:43,615
Come on, Tom.
What do you expect?
835
01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:44,708
Where do we stand?
836
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,630
Well, the judge rejected
the gag order,
837
01:06:46,719 --> 01:06:48,199
so I fly out Monday.
838
01:06:48,679 --> 01:06:52,150
Nice. I guess we�fll
just watch on C-SPAN.
839
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,958
You ever do
anything like this again,
840
01:06:56,039 --> 01:06:59,715
I will cut your balls off
and serve them
to DuPont myself.
841
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:01,512
Get out of here.
842
01:07:04,519 --> 01:07:05,873
Good luck in Washington.
843
01:07:07,159 --> 01:07:08,434
Thanks, Tom.
844
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,713
This material is a perfluoro...
845
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,717
or a PFOA.
846
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,356
It�fs also known as FC 143,
847
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,596
ammonium perfluorooctanoates.
848
01:07:22,679 --> 01:07:27,389
It has been shown
by DuPont�fs own science
849
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,596
that PFOA C-8
850
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:35,672
is possibly life threatening
to human health.
851
01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:41,632
We are asking this agency
to do something.
852
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,635
The Presidential election
in four decades.
853
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,552
Just look at these latest polls.
854
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:08,552
Did you forget
to pay the water bill?
855
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:10,748
What?
856
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,909
You forget to pay
the water bill?
857
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:15,878
No.
858
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,073
We got a notice.
859
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:19,833
What�fs it say?
860
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,832
"PFOA is a persistent chemical
861
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,478
"that is slow to be eliminated
862
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,916
"from the blood stream
of people who have been
exposed to it.
863
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,192
"The DuPont company has advised
864
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:35,511
"the Lubeck Water District
that low concentrations
865
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,557
"have been found
in the district�fs wells.
866
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:39,920
"DuPont has advised the district
867
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,037
"that it is confident
these levels are safe."
868
01:08:44,199 --> 01:08:46,030
What the hell does that mean?
869
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,791
A letter came last fall.
870
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:52,668
Made no sense to me,
so I started making calls.
871
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,034
I told Joe don't
kick that hornet�fs nest.
872
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,319
It�fs not like we didn't know
what we�fd signed up for.
873
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,715
What do you mean?
874
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,470
Oh, lwas married before Joe
875
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:06,110
to a chemist at DuPont.
876
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,436
Dream job.
Paid real well.
877
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,511
And the perks!
Presents for no reason.
878
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,069
We�fd get this catalogue.
Just pick whatever you want.
879
01:09:16,039 --> 01:09:17,314
And little stuff.
880
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:18,832
Like he�fd bring home this soap,
881
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,478
this miracle powder.
882
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,595
You put it in
the washing machine
or the dishwasher,
883
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,680
just wipes stuff clean
like you would not believe.
884
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,113
One day he comes home and says,
885
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:29,952
"Can�ft bring that stuff
home no more."
886
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:31,792
"Why?" Won�ft tell me.
887
01:09:32,119 --> 01:09:34,314
Then he�fd get sick for weeks.
888
01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:37,189
The Teflon flu,
the guys would call it.
889
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,076
We knew something wasn�ft right.
890
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,432
But this house,
we bought itjust by
891
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,591
showing the bank
my husband�fs DuPont ID.
892
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,956
Put both our kids
through college. Engineers.
893
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,319
In this town,
that doesn�ft come
without a price.
894
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,359
My brother Kenny
didn't know that price.
895
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,555
Hejoined DuPont at 19.
896
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,994
Died on the operating table
two years later.
897
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,511
- Ulcerative colitis.
- Just like Dan Schiller had.
898
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:06,918
Who�fs Dan?
899
01:10:07,079 --> 01:10:09,719
A chemist at DuPont.
Worked with my ex-husband.
900
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:12,912
And Roger, what�fs his name?
901
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,512
Wilkins, the foreman.
902
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,869
Steven Gellar.
Randy Field.
903
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,599
Randy�fs was kidney cancer.
He survived.
904
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,194
His wife didn't.
No, June�fs was thyroid.
905
01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:23,877
It was supposed to be treatable.
906
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:25,599
They didn't catch it in time.
907
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,909
But they caught it in their son.
908
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,076
Were your children born healthy?
909
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:34,195
Yes. Yes, they were.
Good.
910
01:10:34,359 --> 01:10:38,273
But we wanted
a third and couldn't.
911
01:10:38,359 --> 01:10:39,554
I went to my doctor.
912
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,359
He says, "You need
a hysterectomy.
You need it right away."
913
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:45,389
I�fm so sorry.
914
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,072
Badluck, lguess.
915
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,153
I was 36.
916
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:52,793
Mr. Kiger,
917
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,074
you think I could get
a copy of that letter?
918
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,555
What�fs wrong with your hand?
919
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,114
Nothing. It�fs fine.
920
01:11:17,119 --> 01:11:18,997
Whoa, Rob?
921
01:11:21,119 --> 01:11:22,837
Rob, what are you doing?
922
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,029
I mean, it�fs not enough
to poison these people?
923
01:11:27,119 --> 01:11:28,519
They gotta swindle them too?
924
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,158
Okay, calm down. All right?
925
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:31,957
DuPont wrote that letter!
926
01:11:32,039 --> 01:11:33,996
Not the water authority.
How do you know that?
927
01:11:34,079 --> 01:11:36,719
You think I don't know
what a DuPont letter
looks like by now?
928
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,118
Okay. Okay.
929
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:39,748
I mean, Jesus!
930
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,557
It�fs evil, Sarah.
931
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,595
It�fs fucking evil!
932
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,829
What�fs fack?
933
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:47,875
Perfect.
934
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:49,720
It�fs nothing, sweetie.
It�fs nothing. Oh, boy.
935
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,471
I�fm sorry.
I�fm sorry, honey.
936
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:52,975
Can you give
Charlie the bottle, please?
937
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,560
Where�fs his bottle?
It�fs in the bag.
938
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,869
What is all this?
It�fs from Grammer�fs.
939
01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:00,350
It was left in her mailbox.
940
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,909
"Medical claims,
now and forever"?
Here, bud.
941
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,432
"Now and forever."
Is that that...
942
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:05,595
That...
943
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:08,350
Medical monitoring.
Is that...
944
01:12:10,039 --> 01:12:12,429
I thought you said
that wasn�ft gonna pass?
945
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,597
- Morning.
- Guys.
946
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,912
Our lead plaintiff
is Mr. Joe Kiger.
947
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,595
Potential plaintiff,
if the partnership approves.
948
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,988
Mr. Joe Kiger,
a Phys Ed teacher
949
01:12:33,079 --> 01:12:35,229
from Parkersburg, West Virginia.
950
01:12:35,319 --> 01:12:39,791
On behalf of
the 70,000 local residents,
951
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,757
whose water
DuPont knowingly poisoned
952
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,193
for the last 40 years.
953
01:12:44,279 --> 01:12:45,279
A class action?
954
01:12:45,359 --> 01:12:46,509
Let him finish.
955
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,351
The Kigers were notified
956
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,796
by their local water company
that DuPont had found
957
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,667
small concentrations of 0-8
in their water supply,
958
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,193
but not to worry
959
01:12:57,279 --> 01:13:00,670
because those concentrations
were safe.
960
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,671
Why?
Because DuPont said so.
961
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,309
This is what DuPont
considers safe.
962
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:15,350
In an Olympic size
swimming pool.
963
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,908
In other words,
even a trace of C-8
964
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,911
renders water unsafe.
965
01:13:20,039 --> 01:13:22,349
But DuPont told
the local water authority,
966
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:23,475
"Don't worry.
967
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,551
"Your wells have got even
less than that."
968
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,710
Except that was a lie.
A lie?
969
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,434
Yes. DuPont has been
secretly testing
970
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:31,872
these wells for decades.
971
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,917
They knew they had
contaminated those wells
972
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,912
up to six times that level.
973
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,672
And thanks
to the Tennant case,
now we know too.
974
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,354
Hold on. This stuff
is unregulated, right?
975
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:44,993
I mean, as far as
EPA�fs concerned,
976
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:47,115
it might as well be rose petals.
977
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:49,475
The EPA hasn�ft
set a standard, that�fs true,
978
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,198
but DuPont did.
979
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,273
And all the law requires
to win a case like this,
980
01:13:54,359 --> 01:13:56,590
is to show that DuPont exceeded
981
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,239
what DuPont itself
considers safe.
982
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:00,588
Self-regulation.
983
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,596
Ifwhat
you're saying is right...
It is right.
984
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,069
Then why would DuPont
tell this water district
anything at all?
985
01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:07,592
Seems to me that they're being
986
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,431
a good corporate citizen here.
987
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,872
That�fs how long
you have to file suit.
988
01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:14,554
One year from the moment
989
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,199
you realize your water�fs
been contaminated.
990
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,752
This letter looks like
it�fs telling people
their water is safe.
991
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,990
In fact, it�fs notifying them
that it isn�ft.
992
01:14:25,079 --> 01:14:26,752
DuPont has started the clock.
993
01:14:27,119 --> 01:14:28,234
Smart.
994
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:29,954
We would�fve counseled that.
995
01:14:30,039 --> 01:14:32,076
It was sent 11 months ago.
996
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:34,627
The moment they realized
we knew.
997
01:14:35,319 --> 01:14:37,515
In 30 days, they're home free.
998
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,194
So that�fs the proposed
case in brief.
999
01:14:42,119 --> 01:14:43,347
You think?
1000
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:44,708
Rob.
1001
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,712
C-8 bio-accumulates.
It builds up inside of us.
1002
01:14:48,119 --> 01:14:50,395
Some class members
who aren�ft sick today
1003
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,118
will get sick tomorrow.
1004
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:55,953
We need a way
to protect them
into the future.
1005
01:14:56,039 --> 01:14:58,136
Jesus, Tom! lfyou're
even thinking about
using medical monitoring...
1006
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:00,469
Hold on. Hold on.
1007
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,189
Medical monitoring
is a claim now permitted
1008
01:15:04,279 --> 01:15:05,507
in West Virginia courts.
1009
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,555
Oh, come on.
Let�fs hear him out.
1010
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,279
It say if a company
exposes a community
1011
01:15:10,399 --> 01:15:11,992
to something
that makes them sick,
1012
01:15:12,079 --> 01:15:15,310
they must monitor the health
of that community
indefinitely.
1013
01:15:15,399 --> 01:15:19,279
Everybody get that?
You're creating liability
from mere exposure.
1014
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:21,032
It�fs also unprecedented.
1015
01:15:21,159 --> 01:15:23,275
Exactly!
Which is why
not six months ago,
1016
01:15:23,359 --> 01:15:25,032
we fought tooth and nail
against it.
1017
01:15:25,119 --> 01:15:27,792
And you lost.
Our clients have the right
1018
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,711
to avail themselves of the law.
1019
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,314
Potential clients.
1020
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,479
Okay.
1021
01:15:38,119 --> 01:15:41,395
I know you, Rob.
I know your passion.
1022
01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:44,390
You got a great settlement
for your farmer.
1023
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:45,832
You should be proud of that.
1024
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,349
And perhaps as the newest
partner at this table,
1025
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,993
I should be more circumspect.
1026
01:15:52,079 --> 01:15:56,153
But what he�fs proposing here is
1027
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,029
nothing less than a shakedown
1028
01:15:59,119 --> 01:16:02,157
of an iconic American company.
We do not represent DuPont.
1029
01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:04,310
No, you don't represent anyone.
1030
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:07,791
Is this what we have become?
1031
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,632
Plaintiff�fs attorneys.
Ambulance chasers.
1032
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,640
Why don't you just admit it?
Rob, you wanna flip.
1033
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,869
You wanna take everything
that you know
1034
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,349
about how
chemical companies operate
1035
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,908
and turn it against DuPont.
Like an informant.
1036
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,176
- That�fs enough.
- Isn�ft that right?
1037
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:22,519
Okay!
Isn't that right?
1038
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:23,993
Isn�ft that right?
Yes.
1039
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,956
Okay, then, I...
I say we take a vote
1040
01:16:28,039 --> 01:16:30,155
and determine whether or not
1041
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:31,752
we continue in the tradition
1042
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,149
that has distinguished
this firm from
everyone else...
1043
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:36,707
Okay, I�fm running
this meeting. Okay?
1044
01:16:37,399 --> 01:16:38,399
You got that?
1045
01:16:39,399 --> 01:16:41,037
Has anyone even read
the evidence
1046
01:16:41,119 --> 01:16:42,234
this man has collected?
1047
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,715
The willful negligence,
the corruption?
1048
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:48,199
Read it!
1049
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,920
And then tell me
we should be sitting
on our asses!
1050
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,519
That�fs the reason
why Americans hate lawyers.
1051
01:16:56,319 --> 01:16:59,356
This is the crap that fuels
the Ralph Naders of the world.
1052
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,158
We should want to nail DuPont.
1053
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:04,996
All of us should!
1054
01:17:05,079 --> 01:17:07,274
American business is better
than this, gentlemen.
1055
01:17:07,359 --> 01:17:09,998
And when it�fs not,
we should hold them to it.
1056
01:17:10,079 --> 01:17:12,149
That�fs how you build
faith in the system.
1057
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,279
We�fre always arguing
that companies are people.
1058
01:17:17,359 --> 01:17:20,796
Well, these people
have crossed the line!
1059
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,591
To hell with them!
1060
01:17:27,319 --> 01:17:28,798
It may come as a surprise
1061
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,792
to corporate defense types
like yourselves,
1062
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,756
but there's more to the law
than just flooding
1063
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,431
the other side in papers.
1064
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,716
From where I sit,
you have to touch people.
1065
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,390
These girls,
they handle the calls
1066
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,630
from the class action members.
1067
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,194
And there�fs thousands of 'em
on any given case.
1068
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,912
And it�fs here that we come
to know their pain.
1069
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,557
Isn�ft that right, Hazel?
1070
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,916
Yes. We hear it every day
1071
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,150
and it�fs myjob to make
a jury feel that pain.
1072
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:00,753
Not out of pity,
but out of fear.
1073
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:03,628
Whatever it is
that happened to my client,
1074
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,516
thatjuror has to think,
1075
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,118
"That could happen to me."
1076
01:18:08,279 --> 01:18:09,679
You just keep hammering it.
1077
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,909
One part per billion.
One part per billion.
1078
01:18:12,039 --> 01:18:14,429
It�fs their own documents.
Their own scientists.
1079
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:15,555
Absolutely.
1080
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,073
They set that standard,
they have to live with it.
1081
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:20,150
Yeah, Ithink we can relax, Rob,
1082
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:23,470
though, there�fs no way
they're gonna prevail
with a motion to dismiss.
1083
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,152
This is procedural.
1084
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,390
It�fs nonsense.
We�fll get a trial today.
1085
01:18:30,119 --> 01:18:32,350
Okay, I�fll catch
you guys in there.
1086
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,279
I wouldn't drink that.
1087
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:41,880
Earl.
1088
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,228
How ya doing?
1089
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:47,434
Still here.
1090
01:18:49,279 --> 01:18:50,679
That�fs somethin�f, right?
1091
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,596
Yes, that�fs something.
1092
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:55,675
Good to see ya, Robbie.
1093
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:00,707
Can�ft let 'em
1094
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:03,434
shut you down.
1095
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,908
I won�ft. I promise.
1096
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,038
Whole world
1097
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,391
needs to know.
1098
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,233
They will, Earl.
They will.
1099
01:19:20,319 --> 01:19:23,198
Hey, Rob? It�fs time.
1100
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,351
I have to go.
1101
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,398
We are here
on defendant�fs motion
1102
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:49,109
to dismiss the case
brought by Mr. Kiger, et al.
1103
01:19:50,359 --> 01:19:54,069
Now, which one of you
is Mr. Wallace?
1104
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,431
Edward Wallace, Your Honor,
1105
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,073
on behalf of the El.
DuPont de Nemours and Company,
1106
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:00,639
better known as DuPont.
1107
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,238
Yes, I�fve heard of it.
1108
01:20:02,319 --> 01:20:03,992
Your motion.
Thank you.
1109
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,878
Your Honor, we�fre here today
because of a uniquely
American invention.
1110
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:10,640
Teflon.
1111
01:20:11,079 --> 01:20:13,798
Since 1961, Teflon
has liberated housewives...
1112
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,917
No, no, no.
Excuse me. Homemakers...
1113
01:20:17,039 --> 01:20:19,314
This is a courtroom,
Mr. Wallace.
1114
01:20:19,399 --> 01:20:21,152
Not the Home Shopping Network.
1115
01:20:23,319 --> 01:20:25,275
Plaintiffs have alleged
that DuPont
1116
01:20:25,359 --> 01:20:27,395
did not meet
its own standard of safety
1117
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,948
with regard to the level of C-8
1118
01:20:30,039 --> 01:20:31,314
in the local water supply.
1119
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:33,559
That�fs irrelevant, Your Honor.
1120
01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:35,672
We ask you to dismiss on grounds
1121
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,671
that the only standard
that matters,
1122
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,399
is the one that elected
government deems safe.
1123
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:41,635
Not if it�fs unregulated.
1124
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,789
It�fs government�fs job
to make these determinations.
1125
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,438
Not any one company.
It�fs a trap.
1126
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:46,872
They cant revety backto�h.
1127
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,074
I got it.
1128
01:20:48,159 --> 01:20:49,957
Is there a problem,
Mr. Deitzler?
1129
01:20:50,039 --> 01:20:51,757
Apologies, Your Honor,
1130
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,908
from the government
for a while now.
1131
01:20:58,039 --> 01:21:00,474
And they're asking you
to let them off the hook
1132
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,835
because they�fve succeeded
in their strategy.
1133
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,029
Government doesn�ft regulate C-8.
1134
01:21:05,119 --> 01:21:06,159
Actually, that�fs not true.
1135
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:07,560
No, no.
1136
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,676
The West Virginia�fs
C-8 Working Group
1137
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,279
has just issued a standard.
1138
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,109
Here with us today,
1139
01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:15,119
is the governmental official
who led that effort,
1140
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,037
Dr. Mary Sue Kimball.
1141
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,108
And, Dr. Kimball,
as a senior member
1142
01:21:22,199 --> 01:21:24,475
of the State�fs Department
of Environmental Protection,
1143
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,073
isn�ft it, in fact, your duty,
1144
01:21:26,199 --> 01:21:28,359
to protect the citizens
of West Virginia...
Mr. Wallace.
1145
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:30,555
I�fll cut to the chase.
1146
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:33,957
What is the level of 0-8
in drinking water
1147
01:21:34,039 --> 01:21:36,234
that the State of West Virginia
1148
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,511
has determined to be
completely safe?
1149
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,015
Watch it go from one
part per billion to?
1150
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:41,039
Five.
Ten?
1151
01:21:41,119 --> 01:21:42,757
150 parts per billion.
1152
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,912
Welcome to West Virginia.
The levels found
in the wells
1153
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,992
of all six water districts
represented in this suit,
1154
01:21:50,359 --> 01:21:52,350
do they fall below
this maximum level?
1155
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:53,439
Well below.
1156
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:55,715
Nothing else, Your Honor.
1157
01:21:57,079 --> 01:21:58,752
Your witness,
Mr. Deitzler.
1158
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,273
Wait. Who�fs on
the working group?
1159
01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:01,712
DuPont, of course, and who else?
1160
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,176
Who did the water testing?
Mr. Deitzler?
1161
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:04,872
When was it done?
One moment, Judge.
1162
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,279
What was the sample size?
1163
01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:07,479
We should be able to see...
1164
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,432
Going once, going twice...
1165
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,432
Dr. Kimball, who were
the members of this cabal
1166
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,158
you call the 0-8 working group?
1167
01:22:17,239 --> 01:22:18,672
Objection.
1168
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,557
Cool it, Mr. Deitzler.
1169
01:22:22,119 --> 01:22:23,439
Go ahead, Dr. Kimball.
1170
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,313
Agency officials,
1171
01:22:25,399 --> 01:22:29,074
representatives of
the scientific community,
um, stakeholders.
1172
01:22:29,159 --> 01:22:30,912
Stakeholders?
Which stakeholders?
1173
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,435
Oh, wait, let me guess.
It rhymes with bouffant?
1174
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,351
DuPont is a stakeholder. Yes.
1175
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:38,634
So, lsee.
1176
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,949
So, don't you find it peculiar
that on the eve
1177
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,112
of a class action lawsuit,
1178
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:46,715
where DuPont might be
considered liable
1179
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,268
for poisoning this community,
1180
01:22:49,399 --> 01:22:52,198
they get you
to come in here suddenly
1181
01:22:52,319 --> 01:22:56,073
and reverse decades
of their so-called
heralded science?
1182
01:22:57,239 --> 01:22:59,195
That�fs false.
I don't work for DuPont.
1183
01:22:59,279 --> 01:23:00,507
I didn't say you did.
1184
01:23:01,359 --> 01:23:03,475
But now you bring it up,
we�fll check back in a month.
1185
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,279
Your Honor...
You honestly,
was gonna plan on
1186
01:23:05,359 --> 01:23:10,194
telling this community
that they can drink
150 times more C-8?
1187
01:23:10,279 --> 01:23:11,997
I mean, come on,
people, bottoms up.
1188
01:23:12,079 --> 01:23:13,079
Honestly, Judge...
1189
01:23:13,159 --> 01:23:15,310
All right,
Mr. Deitzler, enough.
1190
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,073
We�fll be unveiling
the new standard
1191
01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:19,639
at an upcoming public hearing.
1192
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:23,192
Unveiling. Oh,
that sounds like a party.
1193
01:23:24,039 --> 01:23:25,039
We�fll be there!
1194
01:23:31,039 --> 01:23:33,792
Their safety standards thing,
that�fs all a sham.
1195
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,631
Thanks to the Judge '3 decision,
1196
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,631
we will have our day in court.
1197
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:38,913
Yes, we will!
1198
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,354
Because if the state
of West Virginia
1199
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,317
won �ft stop
the DuPont Corporation
1200
01:23:43,399 --> 01:23:45,630
from literally
poisoning its citizens,
1201
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,076
then we, the citizens,
will stop them ourselves.
1202
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:53,475
Good evening and welcome
to 20/20.
1203
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:57,872
Well, it coats
the pots you cook with
so the food doesn't stick.
1204
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,077
It protects the carpet
your baby crawls on.
1205
01:24:01,159 --> 01:24:02,957
I miss carpet.
1206
01:24:03,039 --> 01:24:05,234
Your Skin lotion,
even your makeup.
1207
01:24:05,319 --> 01:24:07,197
We're talking about Teflon.
1208
01:24:07,279 --> 01:24:10,271
And tonight our 20/20
investigation uncovers
1209
01:24:10,359 --> 01:24:14,557
alarming information about
this much-used material.
1210
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,154
It is very alarming, Barbara.
I cook with Teflon.
1211
01:24:17,279 --> 01:24:20,396
I didn't know
until I watched this report
that you're about to see,
1212
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,198
that if Teflon
gets hot enough...
1213
01:24:22,279 --> 01:24:24,032
millions of people
have in their homes.
1214
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:25,496
Teflon has become
such a familiar...
1215
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,671
substance that is also
used in clothing and cars.
Even in contact lenses.
1216
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,115
Already found in the blood
of most Americans.
1217
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,398
Millions of homes across Australia.
Teflon, a non-stick surface...
1218
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,550
The Environmental
Protection Agency
1219
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:45,588
this morning announced
it has opened a priority
review of the chemical C-8,
1220
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,274
currently the subject
of a class action lawsuit
1221
01:24:48,359 --> 01:24:50,237
against the chemical giant
DuPont.
1222
01:24:50,319 --> 01:24:51,319
Joe!
1223
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,471
Joe! Oh, my Lord!
Joe, just wait!
1224
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,551
Wait for the fire department,
please, honey!
1225
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:01,911
Please don't go crazy!
1226
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,935
Have triggered a mass panic
amongst Chinese consumers.
1227
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,712
Just throw
away your non-stick pans,
many experts...
1228
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,029
Are your pans making you Sick?
1229
01:25:09,119 --> 01:25:10,792
That�fs the question
being asked...
1230
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,077
kitchen implements
coated in Teflon.
1231
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,671
The house was empty.
It belongs to my father.
1232
01:25:18,079 --> 01:25:20,149
I don't know
how it could've started.
1233
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:21,467
His name Kiger?
1234
01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:25,235
Think someone might have
got the wrong house?
1235
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,957
All of this hullabaloo
is just Silly.
1236
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,077
Teflon is completely safe
for cooking.
1237
01:25:41,159 --> 01:25:43,957
That is why we founded
the Cook Healthy campaign,
1238
01:25:44,039 --> 01:25:45,597
to set the record straight.
1239
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:50,635
And besides being
completely safe, it is also...
1240
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,113
Copy that.
1241
01:26:02,119 --> 01:26:03,472
All the way down.
1242
01:27:08,239 --> 01:27:09,309
We �fre now on the record.
1243
01:27:09,399 --> 01:27:13,279
This is the videotaped
deposition of
Charles 0. Holliday, Jr.,
1244
01:27:13,359 --> 01:27:16,318
taken by the plaintiffs
in the matter of
Kiger et al
1245
01:27:16,399 --> 01:27:19,596
v. the El. DuPont
de Nemours and Company.
1246
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,398
Raise your right hand.
1247
01:27:22,119 --> 01:27:24,838
Do you swear
to tell the whole truth
and nothing but the truth?
1248
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,034
I do.
1249
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,395
Uh, please state your name.
1250
01:27:30,199 --> 01:27:31,952
Charles 0. Holliday, Jr.
1251
01:27:32,359 --> 01:27:35,750
And are you presently employed?
1252
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:37,828
Yes.
1253
01:27:38,279 --> 01:27:40,315
What is your position?
1254
01:27:41,279 --> 01:27:44,555
I'm the chairman
and chief executive officer
of the DuPont Company.
1255
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:50,510
In DuPont's most recent filing
with the Securities
and Exchange Commission,
1256
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:55,037
you state,
"Based on over 50 years
of industry experience
1257
01:27:55,119 --> 01:27:57,350
"and extensive scientific study,
1258
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:01,432
"DuPont believes there is
no evidence that PFOA causes
1259
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,957
"any adverse
human health effects
or harms the environment."
1260
01:28:06,039 --> 01:28:08,155
You signed
that legal filing, correct?
1261
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:10,993
I don't recall
the exact statement,
but that sounds right to me.
1262
01:28:11,079 --> 01:28:15,118
Are you aware
that DuPont has,
in its own files,
1263
01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:20,194
studies dating back
to the 1970s
that say just the opposite?
1264
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,431
That PFOA, or 0-8,
as it's called,
1265
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,591
has potentially
life-threatening effects
on human health?
1266
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,591
I'm not familiar
with the exact studies
we may have in our files.
1267
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,956
Then I'll take you
through them.
Uh, Exhibit 9.
1268
01:28:38,319 --> 01:28:41,756
Uh, you were just
handed Exhibit 9.
1269
01:28:42,119 --> 01:28:46,193
Uh, do you see the date
March 13th, 1979?
Yes.
1270
01:28:46,319 --> 01:28:49,038
Do you see the DuPont logo
at the top?
Yes.
1271
01:28:49,159 --> 01:28:52,868
Do you see
this word here, highlighted?
Yes.
1272
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,632
Would you read it
for me, please?
"Receptors."
1273
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:00,069
Do you know
what that word
refers to, receptors?
1274
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,551
Um, in this context, I do not.
1275
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,231
It means human beings.
1276
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,829
DuPont refers
to the men and women
1277
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,673
that your company
exposed to 0-8 as receptors.
1278
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:16,390
And in these receptors,
your scientists found,
1279
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,712
"significantly higher
incidents of
allergic endocrine
1280
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,676
"and metabolic disorders."
1281
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:27,390
As well as, "excess risk of
developing liver disease."
1282
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,470
Do you see that?
Yes.
1283
01:29:31,159 --> 01:29:34,595
Moreover, you have
infertility at Teflon.
1284
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,949
Occurrences of leukemia.
1285
01:29:37,039 --> 01:29:39,314
You have excess of cancers.
1286
01:29:39,399 --> 01:29:41,435
Bladder, kidney, oral, pharynx.
1287
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,028
Next paragraph. 78.
1288
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:46,680
Do you see that heading?
Do you see that date?
Do you see that?
1289
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,228
Exhibit 96. Exhibit 53.
1290
01:29:49,359 --> 01:29:51,430
I'd like to move on
to birth defects.
1291
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:52,720
We've gone almost seven hours.
1292
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,637
Mr. Holliday, you're aware
that in 1981
1293
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,474
3M notified DuPont
that it had conducted
studies on rats.
1294
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:00,958
And these studies showed
1295
01:30:01,079 --> 01:30:04,913
that sustained C-8 exposure
can cause facial deformities?
1296
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,717
I'm not aware of a study by 3M.
1297
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:11,395
How about DuPont's own studies
that showed the same thing
in humans?
1298
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:18,268
That's DuPont's
pregnancy study from 1981.
1299
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,216
Does that look like
a DuPont document to you?
1300
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:21,309
It looks to be.
1301
01:30:23,359 --> 01:30:27,034
Are you aware
that DuPont has denied
that any such study
1302
01:30:27,119 --> 01:30:29,587
ever even took place?
1303
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,552
I'm not familiar
with specific statements
we've made about that.
1304
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,314
Seven pregnant women,
all DuPont employees,
1305
01:30:37,399 --> 01:30:39,435
all from the Teflon line.
1306
01:30:40,239 --> 01:30:42,310
Do you see this here?
1307
01:30:42,399 --> 01:30:46,791
"Child, four months,
one nostril,
1308
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,114
"eye defect."
Yes.
1309
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:52,396
Two of the seven women,
nearly 30%, gave birth
1310
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:56,359
to babies that had
the exact facial deformities
that your company
1311
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:58,715
already knew about.
We're done here.
1312
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:01,994
Sir.
1313
01:31:03,359 --> 01:31:05,190
His parents named him Bucky.
1314
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,273
Bucky Bailey.
1315
01:31:12,159 --> 01:31:14,548
This is your receptor.
1316
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:24,399
Now we're done.
1317
01:33:01,399 --> 01:33:05,109
The Environmental
Protection Agency has levied
the largest fine
1318
01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:09,033
in agency history against
the chemical giant, DuPont.
1319
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:14,115
The EPA concluded
the company failed to report
the health dangers of C-8
1320
01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:16,793
used in the manufacture
of Teflon.
1321
01:33:17,319 --> 01:33:21,029
Dupont will pay the EPA
16. 5 million.
1322
01:33:22,359 --> 01:33:26,353
It earns a billion dollars
in profits from Teflon
each year.
1323
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:34,798
To recap,
1324
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,117
we've agreed that
DuPont will clean
local water supplies.
1325
01:33:38,199 --> 01:33:41,795
Install infiltration systems
in all six water districts.
1326
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:46,395
Additionally, DuPontwill pay
70 million in cash
to the Class.
1327
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,710
Three days' revenue
on the Teflon line.
1328
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:53,759
Which leaves
our most challenging issue.
Medical monitoring.
1329
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,912
We've agreed to establish
an independent science panel
1330
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:01,551
comprised of three scientists
who have no relationship
to either side.
1331
01:34:02,399 --> 01:34:05,836
This independent panel
will study the members
of this Class
1332
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:09,753
to determine whether
C-8 exposure has led to
increased incidents
1333
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,831
of disease in this region.
1334
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,472
If the panel finds
that there are
probable scientific links
1335
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,996
to a particular disease,
the health of everyone
in the Class
1336
01:34:19,079 --> 01:34:22,993
will be monitored for
that disease in perpetuity
1337
01:34:23,079 --> 01:34:26,470
at DuPont's cost,
up to 235 million.
1338
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,358
And any Class member
who develops that disease
1339
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,113
can sue DuPont for damages.
1340
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,109
However...
1341
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:38,632
If the science panel
fails to establish
probable scientific links,
1342
01:34:39,359 --> 01:34:40,509
then this case is over.
1343
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:44,114
No monitoring.
No lawsuits. No exceptions.
1344
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,595
Good. Well, gentlemen,
you are now officially
in the hands of science.
1345
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:54,390
Well, wouldn't have
pegged you as a Mai Tai guy.
1346
01:34:55,279 --> 01:34:57,713
It's festive.
Wouldn't have pegged you
for that either.
1347
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,552
We have something
to celebrate.
Yeah?
1348
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:01,708
Do we?
1349
01:35:03,079 --> 01:35:06,868
Look, how do we know
that the panel's gonna prove
1350
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,554
that DuPont made
all these people sick?
1351
01:35:10,319 --> 01:35:12,833
I'm no scientist,
but even I know you'd need
1352
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,752
huge amounts of medical data,
not to mention
1353
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,511
thousands of blood samples
and...
1354
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,829
From people who don't trust us.
1355
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,195
"Hey, folks, we wanna
stick you with some needles.
You won't mind, will ya?"
1356
01:35:24,399 --> 01:35:26,788
I know these people, you know.
1357
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,033
They're gonna
take the money and run.
1358
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:31,274
Wouldn't you?
1359
01:35:31,359 --> 01:35:36,036
I think they want more
than just the money.
I think they...
1360
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,514
They wanna know if they're
gonna get sick or not.
1361
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,591
Or if they have
0-8 in their blood,
and what that's gonna do
1362
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,113
to them and their families.
1363
01:35:46,359 --> 01:35:48,873
So, we're just gonna trust
that they show up?
1364
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,395
Trust, but verify.
What does that mean, Rob?
1365
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,756
Well, come in for an exam.
1366
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,195
Um, give us a blood sample.
1367
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,949
Then, we'll give you your check.
1368
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,909
On second thought,
make mine a Mai Tai.
1369
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,000
All around, please.
1370
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,555
Rob Bilott.
Yeah.
1371
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,829
Where'd you pull that out of?
1372
01:36:15,079 --> 01:36:17,547
Healthy drinking water
is vital to all of us.
1373
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,712
That�fs why scientists
need to know
if the chemical C-8
1374
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,313
causes any health problems.
1375
01:36:22,399 --> 01:36:26,188
Starting today, you can help
by completing a health
questionnaire and having...
1376
01:36:29,239 --> 01:36:31,037
Oh, come on!
1377
01:36:31,119 --> 01:36:32,975
- Medical van's downtown.
- Well, how about you?
1378
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,993
You gonna get
your blood tested?
Nah. lhate needles.
1379
01:36:37,079 --> 01:36:39,115
It's $400, buddy.
1380
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:40,920
Really?
1381
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:43,115
Got your attention, didn't I?
1382
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,195
Okay. Okay.
All right. All right.
1383
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,471
Yeah. That'll work.
1384
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,238
We bring them back here.
1385
01:37:20,359 --> 01:37:22,873
Draw the blood,
hand them a check.
1386
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,189
$400?
Each.
1387
01:37:25,279 --> 01:37:27,110
Lots of money around here.
1388
01:37:27,319 --> 01:37:29,095
How many you brought
with you today, Miss LuAnn?
1389
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:31,509
My husband,
and my three kids, and me.
1390
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,033
$2,000.
1391
01:37:33,119 --> 01:37:35,953
Not too shabby
right before Christmas.
Yup.
1392
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,076
But you ain't
gonna find nothing.
1393
01:37:39,159 --> 01:37:42,231
DuPont's good people.
You'll see.
1394
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,432
Gigi, Gigi, Gigi!
1395
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,511
It's your turn to put
the angel on the top.
1396
01:37:51,039 --> 01:37:53,395
You do it, sweetie.
Gigi's too pooped.
1397
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,438
Why don't you get
your Uncle Ben
to give you a boost?
1398
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,478
Ooh.
Mom, you okay?
1399
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:00,600
Yeah.
1400
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,158
Seriously, it's huge.
1401
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:04,216
They're gonna be making you
partner this year. I know it.
1402
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:06,117
Well, they'd better.
I mean...
1403
01:38:06,399 --> 01:38:07,992
Mommy, come see!
1404
01:38:08,079 --> 01:38:09,216
Hey, baby,
did you hang that ornament?
1405
01:38:09,239 --> 01:38:11,275
- Rob, can you get that?
- Let me see.
1406
01:38:11,359 --> 01:38:12,554
Okay, I'm coming.
1407
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:17,560
Hello?
1408
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,994
Rob, you sitting down
for this?
Larry, what's wrong?
1409
01:38:20,119 --> 01:38:23,510
Sixty-nine thousand.
Sixty-nine thousand what?
1410
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,716
Sixty-nine thousand people
got tested.
Sixty-nine thousand!
1411
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,949
Do you realize
how much data this is?
1412
01:38:29,039 --> 01:38:30,416
It's what we needed, Rob!
This is it!
1413
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,953
Oh, my God.
You were right all along,
my friend.
1414
01:38:33,039 --> 01:38:34,439
Merry Christmas!
Thank you!
1415
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:36,033
You bet.
Thank you!
1416
01:38:36,119 --> 01:38:37,394
Talk real soon.
1417
01:38:39,119 --> 01:38:41,076
Hey, who was that?
You won't believe it.
1418
01:38:41,159 --> 01:38:43,798
Daddy, guess what I just did?
What? What'd you just do?
1419
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:45,711
I put the angel on the top.
1420
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,153
Yeah?
Uncle Ben lifted me.
1421
01:38:47,239 --> 01:38:49,878
He did? Like this? Oh!
1422
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,747
- Merry Christmas, everyone!
- Merry Christmas!
1423
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:13,110
We are gathered
here today in the memory of
Wilbur Earl Tennant.
1424
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,478
"The Lord is my shepherd,
I shall not want.
1425
01:39:17,079 --> 01:39:19,752
"He makes me lie down
in green pastures.
1426
01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:25,074
"He leads me
besides still waters.
He restoreth my soul.
1427
01:39:25,159 --> 01:39:28,675
"Even though lwalk
through the valley
of the shadow of death,
1428
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:30,909
"I will fear no evil..."
1429
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,118
Quick, everybody.
Mustard or ketchup?
1430
01:40:05,199 --> 01:40:07,350
Teddy, for the tenth time,
that's my ketchup.
1431
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,471
Charlie, don't start.
What? It's mine.
I got it.
1432
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,198
- He's got his own, okay?
- You're that lawyer.
1433
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:14,748
Finish up.
1434
01:40:16,399 --> 01:40:20,109
My brother's Dale Lamb.
You took his blood.
Said you'd help him.
1435
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,439
Yeah, I did. We're...
We're working on it.
I promise.
1436
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:24,838
He's dead.
1437
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:28,396
Testicular cancer.
1438
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,078
Left three little boys
younger than yours.
1439
01:40:38,279 --> 01:40:40,475
But you enjoy your family.
1440
01:40:43,079 --> 01:40:44,079
Okay. Everybody up.
1441
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:45,832
I'm not finished.
I said up.
1442
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:28,234
Well, Darlene can't even
leave the house
without being harassed!
1443
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:33,189
First, they blame us
for suing DuPont,
1444
01:41:33,279 --> 01:41:36,750
and now they hate on us
'cause they ain't seen
nothing from it!
1445
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,832
I'm sorry, Joe...
Well, that ain't
good enough!
1446
01:41:40,079 --> 01:41:43,628
And they wonder
why in the hell
it takes four damn years
1447
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:47,189
to read a lousy
blood sample,
and I don't blame 'em!
1448
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,717
We trusted you, Rob.
We put our faith in you.
1449
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,189
- I know, Joe. I'm so...
- All right?
1450
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:02,757
Isn't there
just some kind of
a progress report?
1451
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,070
Anything that I can
share with these folks?
1452
01:42:06,159 --> 01:42:08,673
I mean, they...
They have been waiting.
1453
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:10,158
I'm sorry, Mr. Bilott.
1454
01:42:10,239 --> 01:42:11,992
The Panel is still
in the process of
1455
01:42:12,079 --> 01:42:13,990
analyzing complex data
and modeling
1456
01:42:14,079 --> 01:42:16,832
from thousands of samples
and medical histories.
1457
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:20,077
- I'm so sorry.
- Could you hold a moment?
1458
01:42:30,279 --> 01:42:32,430
Charlie,
don't pick at your food.
1459
01:42:34,159 --> 01:42:35,387
What's a hooker?
1460
01:42:37,359 --> 01:42:39,112
Where did you learn that?
1461
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:41,953
He told me that
Mary Magdalene was a hooker.
1462
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,877
What? She was.
You're supposed to
say prostitute.
1463
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,349
And then she found God
1464
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,238
and became
one of Jesus's
most fervent disciples.
1465
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:55,439
See? lwas just
teaching him the Bible.
1466
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,427
I can't today.
So everybody up.
1467
01:42:59,039 --> 01:43:00,552
Everybody up!
1468
01:43:08,399 --> 01:43:11,596
Can we still afford it?
What?
1469
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:13,833
Catholic school.
1470
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:31,716
My brother's back in rehab.
Did you know that?
1471
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:37,671
No, I'm sorry.
Today's...
1472
01:43:39,319 --> 01:43:41,787
Today's Mom's first day
at chemo.
1473
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:43,439
I forgot.
1474
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:46,273
'Cause it's not
about your case, Rob.
1475
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:47,713
Car!
1476
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:49,073
Gosh.
Okay. Jimmies.
1477
01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:58,828
Teddy forged my signature,
and Tony's quitting football.
Tony.
1478
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,951
But how would you
know about that, right?
1479
01:44:01,039 --> 01:44:03,109
Because all you see,
all that you...
1480
01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:06,670
You... The boys have
ever seen is you,
obsessing about this...
1481
01:44:11,199 --> 01:44:12,917
Have lever complained?
1482
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,557
Say something,
for God's sakes, Rob!
1483
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,595
No.
No?
1484
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:23,476
No.
No.
1485
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,555
Because I knew that
you needed something.
1486
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,393
Some connection...
Something.
1487
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:30,479
And...
1488
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:31,880
So I took it on.
1489
01:44:33,039 --> 01:44:37,033
But if you want
to start accounting,
if you want to start with,
1490
01:44:37,119 --> 01:44:39,155
"Oh, can we afford," then...
1491
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,198
I don't know, Rob.
1492
01:44:45,159 --> 01:44:47,912
Can the boys afford
a father who can't string
two words together?
1493
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,514
Can our marriage
afford 13 years of...
1494
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:52,476
Thirteen years of this?
1495
01:44:55,159 --> 01:44:58,755
How about it, Rob?
You wanna talk about it?
About our lives?
1496
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:04,238
Of course not.
1497
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,194
I'll tell Mom
you asked about her.
1498
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:14,555
What in God's name
is that Panel doing? Why are
we still getting bills?
1499
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,194
Overhead. Uh...
1500
01:45:17,279 --> 01:45:18,349
LocalcounseL
1501
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:21,033
Harry's call center...
$1,000 an hour.
1502
01:45:21,119 --> 01:45:23,429
That... That was
a technical expert.
1503
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,717
We needed to do filings
when DuPont started
lobbying Washington...
1504
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,511
That's Washington's problem,
not ours.
1505
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,279
That's why
you got them involved.
Your memo.
1506
01:45:31,359 --> 01:45:34,113
Itwasjust a fine, Tom.
It's a fine. Sixteen million.
1507
01:45:34,199 --> 01:45:37,033
It's... It's nothing
for these people.
It's pocket change.
1508
01:45:37,119 --> 01:45:39,615
Yes, but if they get charged
with criminal concealment,
game over.
1509
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:42,234
You said
DOJ was investigating.
Not anymore.
1510
01:45:42,359 --> 01:45:44,190
What?
They dropped
the investigation.
1511
01:45:44,319 --> 01:45:46,833
They dropped... What?
They dropped it.
No reason given.
1512
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:53,514
Tom, our government is
captive to DuPont.
1513
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,792
This case,
it's the only hope we have.
1514
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,314
They know that,
and they're trying
to make it as expensive
1515
01:45:59,399 --> 01:46:02,198
as they can to force you
to make me stop.
1516
01:46:04,359 --> 01:46:06,237
Just tell me
how much longer.
I...
1517
01:46:07,319 --> 01:46:10,789
I... lcan't.
I... lwish I could.
1518
01:46:12,359 --> 01:46:13,634
Tom, I...
Are you okay?
1519
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:15,273
Um, I'm fine. l'mjust...
1520
01:46:15,359 --> 01:46:19,751
Rob, I'm a Managing Partner
now. I have a firm to run.
1521
01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:24,073
I know. And Tom,
I think there could be
a huge payout here...
1522
01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:25,559
You think I'm in this for money?
1523
01:46:26,319 --> 01:46:27,469
No, I...
You think I am...
1524
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:31,997
Letting you
drag this firm's reputation
through a meat grinder
1525
01:46:32,079 --> 01:46:33,717
for some kind of
plaintiff's payoff?
1526
01:46:36,199 --> 01:46:38,872
I... I don't know
why you're doing it.
1527
01:46:43,159 --> 01:46:45,435
Rob, listen, I... I'm sorry,
1528
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,113
but you're gonna have to
take another pay cut.
1529
01:46:48,199 --> 01:46:51,112
Tom, that's...
That's my fourth pay cut.
1530
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:54,158
I... I'm down
to a third now.
1531
01:46:54,239 --> 01:46:56,470
You don't have
any clients.
No one will take your calls.
1532
01:46:58,199 --> 01:47:02,431
What am I supposed to do here?
Now, I'm on your side, but...
1533
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:03,800
Rob?
1534
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,109
Amy? Amy!
1535
01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:09,190
- Kathleen!
- Get some help!
1536
01:47:09,279 --> 01:47:10,759
Kathleen!
Get some help!
1537
01:47:11,119 --> 01:47:13,110
Rob! Rob!
1538
01:47:23,359 --> 01:47:25,555
Looks like we should, uh, cancel
1539
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,756
my 4:00 with Jerry and...
1540
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,434
I don't know.
We're waiting to find out.
1541
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:32,588
Itwas, uh...
1542
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,439
Make... Make sure that,
uh, Jerry knows that...
1543
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:41,313
I... I have to go.
1544
01:47:42,199 --> 01:47:43,712
Mrs. Bilott?
Yes.
1545
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,997
We think your husband's
most likely experienced a TIA.
1546
01:47:47,079 --> 01:47:49,274
A transient ischemic attack.
1547
01:47:49,399 --> 01:47:53,791
Blood is briefly cutoff
to the brain, mimicking
the symptoms of a stroke.
1548
01:47:55,319 --> 01:47:59,313
Uh, excuse me. A TIA?
This wasn't short.
1549
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,875
It... It kept going on.
1550
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:03,313
What about poison?
1551
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:05,273
I'm sorry?
1552
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,034
Could someone be poisoning him?
1553
01:48:08,119 --> 01:48:11,430
No, Mrs. Bilott.
This is neurological.
1554
01:48:12,119 --> 01:48:13,712
You just said
it wasn't a stroke.
1555
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:15,591
Well, not this time.
1556
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:17,239
What does that mean?
Well, it means that
1557
01:48:17,359 --> 01:48:19,350
he needs to never
miss his medication.
Mmm-hmm.
1558
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,636
And needs to reduce
all sources of stress
in his life.
1559
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,269
He's under
enormous pressure at work.
1560
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:29,197
Well, that needs to change.
But he's a young man.
1561
01:48:29,279 --> 01:48:30,840
He shouldn't be
having these incidences.
1562
01:48:32,399 --> 01:48:34,355
He's sedated, but
you can see him.
1563
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:37,711
I'll check in on
him tomorrow.
Thank you. Thank you.
1564
01:48:45,319 --> 01:48:47,880
I'll give you some privacy.
1565
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,637
Anything you need, call me.
1566
01:48:56,039 --> 01:48:58,759
I need you to stop
making him feel
like a failure.
1567
01:49:05,199 --> 01:49:09,078
I appreciate the stress
that your family must
be going through.
1568
01:49:09,159 --> 01:49:12,630
Please don't
talk to me like
I'm the wife.
1569
01:49:16,399 --> 01:49:19,596
Did Rob ever tell
you about moving
around as a kid?
1570
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,719
Ten times before senior year.
1571
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:26,836
No friends, no ties, no...
1572
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,479
Just him, his sister, his folks.
1573
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:33,789
Then I came along and
you came along and...
1574
01:49:36,279 --> 01:49:38,475
Taft, it's not just a job.
1575
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,471
To him it's...
lt's home.
1576
01:49:45,239 --> 01:49:47,800
And he was willing
to risk all that
1577
01:49:48,079 --> 01:49:50,640
for a stranger who
needed his help.
1578
01:49:52,119 --> 01:49:57,113
Now, you and I
may not know
what that is,
1579
01:49:59,359 --> 01:50:01,270
but it's not failure.
1580
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:39,832
Lord, you have searched my heart
1581
01:50:40,239 --> 01:50:45,268
And you know when [sit
and when I stand
1582
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,957
Your hand is upon me
1583
01:50:49,039 --> 01:50:52,510
Protecting me from death
1584
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:57,800
Keeping me from harm
1585
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:05,908
Oh, Lord, lknow you are near
1586
01:51:10,319 --> 01:51:15,234
Standing always at
1587
01:51:15,319 --> 01:51:18,516
My side
1588
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,034
Hey, do you know the score?
1589
01:51:49,319 --> 01:51:53,029
The game? Sorry,
my radio's busted.
1590
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:55,953
Sorry.
1591
01:51:56,239 --> 01:51:58,195
Don't worry about it.
It'll be a surprise.
1592
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,158
Bucky, come on.
We'll be late.
1593
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:03,034
Have a good one.
1594
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,875
Hey, Rob, Bill Leary.
We haven't met.
1595
01:53:48,359 --> 01:53:50,119
I 'm the new comptroller
out of Indianapolis.
1596
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:53,750
Listen, we need to talk
about these unbilled hours
and these unreimbursed...
1597
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:12,873
- Hello?
- Mr. Bilott?
1598
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:14,668
Yes?
1599
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,911
I guess I should start
by apologizing for taking...
1600
01:54:18,359 --> 01:54:20,590
well, seven years to call you.
1601
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:22,671
Who is this?
Oh, yes, of course.
1602
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:26,554
It's Dr. Karen
Frank from the...
Science Panel?
1603
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,747
Again, I 'm so sorry to
have kept you waiting
this long, Mr. Bilott.
1604
01:54:32,119 --> 01:54:34,872
But there was just
so much data...
Please, Doctor, please,
1605
01:54:35,199 --> 01:54:36,199
can you...
1606
01:54:36,279 --> 01:54:38,475
Would just please
tell me what's happened?
1607
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,273
What's happening?
What you've found out?
1608
01:54:41,359 --> 01:54:44,716
Yes. You gave us
an unprecedented
amount of data.
1609
01:54:45,279 --> 01:54:48,271
The largest epidemiological
study in human history.
1610
01:54:49,039 --> 01:54:53,113
It's irrefutable. We have
linked sustained
exposure to C-8
1611
01:54:53,239 --> 01:54:56,755
to six categories of
serious illness.
1612
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:04,791
Kidney cancer,
testicular cancer...
1613
01:55:05,399 --> 01:55:08,153
thyroid disease, preeclampsia...
1614
01:55:08,239 --> 01:55:10,993
high cholesterol,
ulcerative colitis.
1615
01:55:12,319 --> 01:55:16,108
3, 535 people in
the Class already
have these diseases.
1616
01:55:17,039 --> 01:55:18,837
Many more will develop them.
1617
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:24,149
Thanks to you
the entire Class
will be monitored...
1618
01:55:24,239 --> 01:55:27,550
and those who get sick
can seek restitution.
1619
01:55:29,279 --> 01:55:32,795
You did a good thing here,
Mr. Bilott. You did good.
1620
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:37,078
Thank you.
1621
01:57:30,119 --> 01:57:33,555
Rob? What happened?
1622
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:39,479
Rob?
1623
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:43,471
DuPont, they're reneging.
1624
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,109
Which part?
All of it.
1625
01:57:49,119 --> 01:57:50,632
They're tearing up
our agreement.
1626
01:57:51,039 --> 01:57:52,552
Rejecting the Science Panel.
1627
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,996
They're gonna fight
every claim in court.
1628
01:57:56,079 --> 01:57:59,550
Thousands of claims.
People, sick people,
they'll give up.
1629
01:58:00,239 --> 01:58:01,559
They can't fight DuPont!
1630
01:58:02,039 --> 01:58:04,792
How can they go back on...
1631
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:06,989
Sarah.
They can't go back
on everything.
1632
01:58:07,079 --> 01:58:08,354
They're a titan of industry.
1633
01:58:08,439 --> 01:58:09,775
They can do whatever
the hell they want.
1634
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:10,948
Nothing else matters.
1635
01:58:11,039 --> 01:58:12,597
They can fight
you all they want.
1636
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:14,359
It doesn't take away
from what you've done!
1637
01:58:14,439 --> 01:58:17,671
Of course, it does.
That's exactly
what it does!
1638
01:58:19,199 --> 01:58:21,350
They want to show
the world that it's
no use fighting.
1639
01:58:21,439 --> 01:58:24,238
Look, everybody,
even he can't
crack the maze
1640
01:58:24,319 --> 01:58:25,469
and he's helped build it!
1641
01:58:26,479 --> 01:58:28,356
The system is rigged!
1642
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:31,516
They want us to think
it'll protect us,
1643
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:32,668
but that's a lie.
1644
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:34,671
We protect us. We do.
1645
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:36,074
Nobody else.
1646
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,672
Not the companies.
Not the scientists.
1647
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:42,518
Not the government. Us.
1648
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:49,150
A farmer with a 12th grade
education told me that.
1649
01:58:51,439 --> 01:58:55,831
On day one, he knew
and I thought he was crazy.
1650
01:59:03,159 --> 01:59:04,797
Isn't that crazy?
1651
01:59:09,119 --> 01:59:11,110
No.
1652
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:18,271
All rise.
1653
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:19,918
The honorable Timothy Burg...
1654
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:23,470
United States District Judge
for the Southern District
of Ohio presiding.
1655
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:26,119
This court is now in session
pursuant to the adjournment.
1656
02:00:26,199 --> 02:00:27,917
Hearye, hearye, hearye.
1657
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:30,389
All persons having business
with this honorable court
1658
02:00:30,640 --> 02:00:33,518
draw near, give their
attention and they
shall be heard.
1659
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:36,353
God save the United States
and this honorable court.
1660
02:00:36,439 --> 02:00:38,032
Please be seated.
1661
02:00:38,119 --> 02:00:40,509
And we're here this
morning for a jury trial.
1662
02:00:41,159 --> 02:00:45,596
So, 3,535 claims.
1663
02:00:46,159 --> 02:00:48,390
At a rate of four
or five cases a year,
1664
02:00:48,479 --> 02:00:50,470
we can all expect
to be here till...
1665
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:54,711
Well, the year 2890.
If we're lucky.
1666
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:56,873
Guess we'd better get started.
1667
02:00:57,560 --> 02:00:59,470
Mrs. Johnson, is your
attorney present?
1668
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:01,760
Good morning, Your Honor.
1669
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,033
Rob Bilott for the plaintiff.
1670
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:05,869
Oh, still here, huh?
1671
02:01:06,840 --> 02:03:07,840
Still here.
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