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HART [CHUCKLES]:
No, I can't shoot this.
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This is private.This is private.
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This is not importantto show. Okay.
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Clear the way.
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Here we go.
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[♪♪]
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Good morning, world.
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Good morning, Evan.
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Mikey.
Get a shot of Mike.
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Good morning, Mike.
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Good morning, D.
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DANA:
Good morning.
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EVAN:
Good morning, Michael.
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HART:
So, Evan, where do you want me
to stand for the shot?
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EVAN:
Uh...
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Where do you
want me to stand?
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Right here?
EVAN: A little back.
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Take another step back?
Yeah.
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Big step back.
Oh, no.
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Oh, I'm so mad now.
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Oh.
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EVAN:
We'll see you later.
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[HUMMING]
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Whoo...
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Look at the sky.
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EVAN:
Okay, I'll interview you,
Mom.
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Okay, hi.
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How do you like
the trip?
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I love this trip,
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but I don't love it more
than you.
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Are you sure?
Yeah.
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Paradise.
I like paradise.
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There's Daddy.
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EVAN: Dad,
Yeah.
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what do you think
about the trip?
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Well, you know,
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I'm really glad you asked me
that question, Evan.
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Since I like this trip so much,
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you know what it makes me do?
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What?
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It makes me want to jump
right over you.
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Whoa...
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DANA: Very impressive.
EVAN: Yes.
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So now we're going
to get the house.
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There's Michael's room.
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And we're getting closer
to Michael,
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the sleeping baby.
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How do you like
the trip, Michael?
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So now you have to meet
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the cameraman.
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Am I good
or am I bad?
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We'll have that in...
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5.5 seconds.
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[♪♪]
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[SAW BUZZING]
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[PROJECTOR CLICKING]
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I was at my, uh--
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In my room in my boarding
school when my, uh--
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My dad called me
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and told that Evan
had jumped out of the--
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Out of his window.
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[♪♪]
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[STARTS ENGINE]
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It was sort of
the third week of school,
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I think, that he--
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He chose to take
his life.
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I went into
my mother's room
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and...
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I realized the sentence that
had to come out of my mouth.
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I had to communicate
to them
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why I was coming in there
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and why I was reaching out
for them and...
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[SNIFFLES]
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You know, I had to say,
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"Evan's killed himself."
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One of the things
that you do, I think--
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Or at least that I do
unconsciously,
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to avoid things that are
really too painful to...
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confront.
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--is just black them out.
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How-- How canyou understand doing that?
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It doesn't seem possible.
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What on Earth has happenedto make your son so miserable
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that he doesn't wantto be there anymore.
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[♪♪]
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[THUNDER CRASHES]
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DANA:
We'll never knowwhat was in Evan's head
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the night he killed himself.
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The mystery will always be
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what his thought was
when he was on the ledge.
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You know,
as he put one foot over the--
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The window,
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and made that decision.
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Maybe he startedto realize that
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his mental illnesswas so powerful
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and that he couldn't win.
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MAN:
"He that raised up Jesusfrom the dead
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"will also give lifeto our mortal bodies,
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"in the sure and certain hope
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"of the resurrection
to eternal life
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"through our Lord Jesus Christ,
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"we commend to almighty God
our brother Evan,
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"and we commit his body
to the ground.
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"Earth to earth,
ashes to ashes,
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dust to dust."
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Amen.
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GROUP:
Amen.
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DANA:
How's it possible
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that I found myselfat his funeral
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holding my babyfor the last time?
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[♪♪]
[PROJECTOR CLICKING]
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The day Evan was born
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was the happiest dayof my life.
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It's indescribable.
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It-it was indescribablehappiness
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to finally see him,because when you're pregnant
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you start to havea relationship with the baby
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and it's, like,moving around and...
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You know, who are you?Knock-knock.
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Who's there?
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And then he comes out
and, uh,
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Evan was particularly pretty.
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I just fell in lovewith him right away.
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[♪♪]
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HART:
Well, I actually filmedEvan getting born
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and I was very excited.
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As I recall, I gave
the camera to the doctor
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and he did a shot also.
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DANA:
I was 26 when Evan was born.
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Hart was 42,he already had a son
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from a previous relationship.
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But Evan was my first.
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Hart and I are filmmakers
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and at that time Hart wasshooting away a lot
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and he was gonea lot of the time.
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So Evan and I ended upbeing alone together.
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He was young,I was young.
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We were like these twolittle creatures,
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trying to help each other outa little bit.
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[LAUGHING]
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Yes.
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Yes.
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What's this?
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HART:
Okay, we--
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We're gonna have
an interview with the mom.
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So, Mom...
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what do you think
about your kid?
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Kid?
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Oh, yeah, this thing.
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Well, think that--
I think that it's really
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just the most special thing,
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to give him big kisses.
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[BLOWS RASPBERRY]
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Really, I think
that's the best part
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of it all.
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NICHOLAS:
I remember the first timeI met Evan.
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Dana had come home
from the hospital.
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I think I had actually
been away with my mother
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while he was born
and my dad came
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and picked
me up at my apartment.
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I was living on Mercer Streetwith my mom.
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And he said,
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"We're going to meetyour little brother."
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There's this photograph
of me, um,
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taken during my first
encounter with Evan
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and my expression
sort of sums it all up.
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It's, "what the fuck is this?"
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[CHUCKLES]
Sort of holding this babyin my arms thinking,
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you know,"where did he come from?"
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So-- So what--?
Who's your brother?
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Nicky.
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Do you like
your brother Nicky?
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[MUMBLES]
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So how old are you, Evan?
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Um...
I old--
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I older.
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You're older?
How old?
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Um, really old.
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Look at Daddy. Look at Daddy's
camera when you say that.
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I'm really old.
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You're really old?
How old?
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Like, big old.
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Are you big?
Yeah.
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How big are you?
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T--
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Real big?
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Big as a dinosaur?
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I remember his first
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word that he used over
and over and over again,
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was, "no."
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And we used to jokeit was "no"
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because he heardthe word "no" so much
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because as soonas he was walking around
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he would get into everything.
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[GROUP LAUGHS]
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GROUP:
Aw...
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WOMAN:
Oh, how cute.
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[LAUGHTER]
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DANA:
Evan, no, no. No.
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Be gentle.
[WHINES]
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Oh, come on. "Please let me
punch him in the nose."
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[LAUGHTER]
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NICHOLAS:
I think I understoodfrom an early time
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that he wasa challenging kid.
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[CRYING]
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MAN:
Russell, Russell.
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[♪♪]
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Getting dressed in the morningI knew was a challenge
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if he didn't havethe right outfit,
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you know, you weren't gonnabe leaving the house
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for a very long time.
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[♪♪]
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One summer we werein Nantucket
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and we were trying to leavethe beach at the end of the day
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and I think it took us45 minutes
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to get the towelsin the baskets
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and start walking homefrom the beach
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because Evan wantedthe towels to be folded
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a certain way,
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and put in the basketa certain way
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and if they weren't
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he would dump them outin the sand
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and he'd say,"Start over, start over."
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That was his big phrase.
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HART:
He was a perfectionist.
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And this persistedthroughout his whole life.
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If he wasn't absolutelythe best at something,
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then he would getfrustrated.
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And discipline was
pretty much impossible.
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I mean, the way
we used to handle it
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is we'd say, okay,
so you have time-out
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and put him in his room.
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Well, you put him
in his room for time-out
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it's like, you know,
Keith Moon in a hotel room.
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You know,
the TV set's out the window,
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bookshelves are, you know--
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Crashing over.
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And you come in and it's,
like, totally destroyed
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and do you think
he's at all--?
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Uh, you know,
feels bad about it?
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No, it's like,
"Okay, so put me in prison.
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I wanna go to prison."
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NICHOLAS:
There is no doubtin my mind
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that he hadpsychological issues.
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I guess the best way
I can describe it is
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he lacked emotional
shock absorbers.
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And because of that
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would react to situations
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that you and I would seeas insignificant
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in a really,really big way.
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[♪♪]
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DANA:
Well, really,it was almost like
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there were two Evans.
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He would be, on the one hand,tantrumming
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and being completelyimpossible to reach.
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On the other hand,being this wonderful,
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vibrant, vivacious kid.
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[♪♪]
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EVAN:
Hello.
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CHRIS: Hello.
What's your name?
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My name is RoboCop,
what's yours?
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Nobody.
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Well,
I'm pullin' you over,
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Nobody,
'cause you're speeding.
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Ease up
on the throttle.
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Okay, good night.
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Have sweet dreams,
goodbye.
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[BOTH LAUGH]
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DANA:
I mean, he was so much funto be around
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and when Michael was born
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Evan was thrilled.
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He finally had a playmate.
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They were roommates
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and he adored Michael.
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Hi, it's me Evan.
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That's my little brother
and that's my mom.
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HART:
And what are they doing?
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My mom's talk--
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Trying to talk
to somebody,
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Michael's just sucking
on his pacifier.
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I couldn't take 'em out
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'cause that was
too hard to open.
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DANA:
Okay, what's--?
What's Michael saying?
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EVAN:
He's saying that--
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"I wanna get that dog."
[WHINES]
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That's what he's saying.
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Okay, Evan,
you wanna film now?
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Yeah.
Okay.
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[EVAN GRUNTS]
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EVAN:
And that's...
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formula.
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There's a green shirt,
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guess who, it's Daddy.
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Four eyes.
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Oh, there's inside the toilet.
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And there's under the bed,
let's go see.
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We see red gloves,
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we see some socks.
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Ready?
HART: I'm ready.
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Okay, action.
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HART:
He learned how to readvery quickly,
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he loved books.
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He loved talkingabout what he was reading.
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And he was a great companion,
you know,
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when you were doin' something.
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Going on a trip...
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He was a guy who was,
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you know,good for an adventure.
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MAN:
All right, Hart.
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DANA: Hart.
EVAN: And Evan.
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I know, it's tough.
And Evan.
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And Evan.
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DANA:
He's a big one.
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Beautiful.
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Let's see
the triumphant fishermen.
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[CHEERING]
Yes, Nicholas.
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Yay!
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What do you think, Evan?
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What do you think?
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Goody!
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My camera.
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HART:
Aw, poor baby boy.
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He needs to go
to Mommy for help.
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DANA:
Evan was incrediblyaffectionate,
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he was very physical.
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Very cuddly.Always cuddling up.
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Ev, are you a little baby
still in Mommy's tummy?
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Uh-huh. You haven't even
been born yet, have you?
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You have to takethat intense sweetness
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and l--You know, sensitivity,
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and just completely upended
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into the darkest,scariest...
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Uh...
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Scary, scary.
That's all I can say.
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Scary person,
scary soul.
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The darkest of souls.
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[♪♪]
[APPLAUSE]
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When Evan was in kindergarten
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I got a callfrom the after-school teacher.
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She was really concerned
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about him talkingabout suicide.
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KAREN:
I met Evan when he was 5,
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and he came to our program--
Performing arts school.
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And, um,
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he was probably the cutest kid
I've ever seen.
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[APPLAUSE]
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You try not to have favorites
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but sometimesit just happens
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and he happened to beall the teachers' favorite.
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He was just one of the mostloving, creative kids,
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I've ever met.
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Very righteous
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and everything had to be fair.
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And if someone was givinganyone a hard time
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he would be the first oneto break it up
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and say, "Do you thinkthat was fair?
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It wasn't fair."
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[♪♪]
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But when he was 5and he was in the younger group
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he was obsessedwith dying.
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You know,
jumping out the window
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and saying,
"I'll kill myself."
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And he said
a relative had done that.
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Every day in group,he would bring that up.
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And he would say,"I wanna jump out the window."
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He'd say, "I don't careif I die. I don't care."
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And I said, "Well,what about me?"
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And he said,"Well, I'd feel bad for you
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"and my parents,but I wouldn't mind
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'cause I won't feelanything."
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And he would sit
in my lap
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and have his arm,
you know, around me
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and he would talk about it,
he said,
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"No, I would--
I would jump out."
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You know, like--
I'm like, wh--?
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You know, without being upset,
without--
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You know, just being loving
and affectionate and...
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And I said, "Evan,
that's just weird talk."
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All right? You know,
come on.
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That's-- That's just weird.
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I've seen depressed kids
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and I've seen,you know, hyper kids.
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But not kidswho talk about...
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you know, dying.
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He was just curious
about death.
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And even obsessed with it.
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DANA:
The thing about Evan'sobsession with death
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was that it wasso matter-of-fact.
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A lot of timesit was just casual.
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EVAN:
Um, we're in Hawaii.
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We were just snorkeling,
I saw--
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Uh, we saw an eel,
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and now we're gonna go
look at some whales.
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Maybe we can see
Moby Dick's son.
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Like, I remember
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one time in-in Hawaii...
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We're just there snorkeling
or something
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and he says something like,
"By the way, I've got a rifle."
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Don't say this at home,
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kids.
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HART:
So what?
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00:20:14,002 --> 00:20:15,025
I got a rifle.
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00:20:18,005 --> 00:20:19,026
You got a rifle?
Yeah.
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00:20:19,028 --> 00:20:21,005
What do you need
a rifle for?
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To shoot you.
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And you just go, "what?"
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00:20:26,012 --> 00:20:28,007
Like, what do you mean
to sh--?
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00:20:28,009 --> 00:20:29,019
I mean,
that's not really funny.
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00:20:29,021 --> 00:20:32,007
It's not really expressed
in a--
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00:20:32,009 --> 00:20:34,006
In a way that seems
attention-getting.
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00:20:34,008 --> 00:20:36,012
It seems like,
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"Yeah. This is what
I think about."
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00:20:38,007 --> 00:20:42,004
"1997, Evan Perry.
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00:20:42,006 --> 00:20:44,025
"Perfectionistic,
obsessive.
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Doesn't like
to have things..."
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00:20:49,004 --> 00:20:50,018
I stopped writing there.
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00:20:50,020 --> 00:20:52,017
"Good athlete,
popular...
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DANA:
When he was 5 we did startseeing a psychiatrist.
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"Doing well in school.
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Last year fighting, etc."
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00:21:00,029 --> 00:21:02,025
And very early on,
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he diagnosed depression
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in Evan
and put him on Prozac.
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00:21:05,024 --> 00:21:07,025
We talked about Prozac,
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September 25th, '97.
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That was the heyday
of where
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00:21:12,018 --> 00:21:14,028
people were
just really discovering
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00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,015
depression in children.
429
00:21:16,017 --> 00:21:19,020
You know, before--
I don't know when.
430
00:21:19,022 --> 00:21:21,001
When I started out training,
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00:21:21,003 --> 00:21:23,011
people didn't really think
children had depression.
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00:21:23,013 --> 00:21:24,014
It was just thought,
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00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:26,005
children don't get
depressed. Period.
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00:21:26,007 --> 00:21:28,006
I remember
when you prescribed Prozac
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00:21:28,008 --> 00:21:29,013
I was pretty surprised
436
00:21:29,015 --> 00:21:31,008
because I'd never heard
of that.
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00:21:31,010 --> 00:21:32,029
That was, like,
a really big thing.
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00:21:33,001 --> 00:21:35,001
"Positive,
strong family history
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of depression
on both sides."
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00:21:37,025 --> 00:21:39,026
Should I say this part?
Or skip this?
441
00:21:39,028 --> 00:21:41,028
"Parental uncle
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00:21:42,001 --> 00:21:44,012
committed suicide, age 21."
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00:21:44,014 --> 00:21:46,016
Your brother, yeah.
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00:21:46,018 --> 00:21:49,000
"Talks about death
and murder."
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00:21:50,024 --> 00:21:52,020
He was just scary.
I don't know what to say.
446
00:21:52,022 --> 00:21:54,024
He had already made
a suicide attempt.
447
00:21:54,026 --> 00:21:56,018
DANA: Which one?
"Ran to window
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00:21:56,020 --> 00:21:59,017
and threatened to jump
in front of parents," I wrote.
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00:21:59,019 --> 00:22:02,019
"Defiant, rebellious,
banged head.
450
00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:06,005
"Threatened to kill
parents and brother.
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00:22:06,007 --> 00:22:07,015
I want cancer."
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00:22:07,017 --> 00:22:11,006
Well, he was such a baby,
you know, in the beginning.
453
00:22:11,008 --> 00:22:12,015
He had such a baby face.
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00:22:12,017 --> 00:22:14,014
I mean, such a kind of--
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Kind of, pink,
kind of, baby kid.
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00:22:17,015 --> 00:22:19,027
And then it was this-that--
457
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:22,021
Kind of, visual contrastbetween the--
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00:22:22,023 --> 00:22:26,016
You know, the demons inside himand that, kind of, sweet look.
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[♪♪]
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DANA:
At one point,
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00:22:32,003 --> 00:22:34,013
I'd say,Evan was about--
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Maybe 7 or 8.
463
00:22:36,004 --> 00:22:39,013
He and I were homeand once again
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00:22:39,015 --> 00:22:42,022
he started to talkabout wanting to kill himself.
465
00:22:44,012 --> 00:22:46,007
A lot of times he would
tell me specifically
466
00:22:46,009 --> 00:22:47,013
what he was gonna do.
467
00:22:47,015 --> 00:22:48,025
He was gonna jump
out the window,
468
00:22:48,027 --> 00:22:50,009
he was gonna jump
off a building,
469
00:22:50,011 --> 00:22:51,024
he was gonna cut himself.
470
00:22:51,026 --> 00:22:53,016
Or in this particular occasion,
471
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he was gonna hang himself.
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00:22:55,025 --> 00:22:58,013
He took this pillow thing
473
00:22:58,015 --> 00:22:59,028
with a strap on it
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00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,028
and climbed upon his bunk bed,
475
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000
then he affixed it up there.
476
00:23:05,002 --> 00:23:06,015
And then he put it
around his neck
477
00:23:06,017 --> 00:23:09,026
and he showed me how he was
gonna jump off the bunk bed.
478
00:23:09,028 --> 00:23:14,025
He's gonna show Momhow he's gonna hang himself,
479
00:23:14,027 --> 00:23:16,015
right in front of her.
480
00:23:16,017 --> 00:23:19,029
And I didn't let him.
481
00:23:20,001 --> 00:23:22,001
But I'm tired of tryingto explain to people
482
00:23:22,003 --> 00:23:23,007
what I'm hearing at home
483
00:23:23,009 --> 00:23:26,007
and I'm just gonnarecord this.
484
00:23:27,027 --> 00:23:30,020
I always felt so guiltyabout taking those pictures,
485
00:23:30,022 --> 00:23:34,005
but I was so tiredof explaining to people
486
00:23:34,007 --> 00:23:36,002
my son wantsto kill himself.
487
00:23:38,008 --> 00:23:41,018
I just needed some kind
of proof that, um--
488
00:23:41,020 --> 00:23:43,021
That this is really happening.
489
00:23:43,023 --> 00:23:46,008
Because it was
so impossible to believe.
490
00:23:51,012 --> 00:23:53,001
Oh, God.
491
00:23:53,003 --> 00:23:54,018
This is when
he tried to hang himself?
492
00:23:54,020 --> 00:23:56,000
DANA:
Yeah.
493
00:24:01,004 --> 00:24:03,003
You know,
there was a, uh...
494
00:24:05,020 --> 00:24:09,003
idea that children
could not be suicidal
495
00:24:09,005 --> 00:24:12,005
because they didn't understand
that death was, um,
496
00:24:12,007 --> 00:24:14,002
irreversible.
497
00:24:15,024 --> 00:24:17,026
Um...
498
00:24:17,028 --> 00:24:20,024
I never really felt
like I knew Evan very well.
499
00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:24,019
Um, he was the scariest kid
I ever saw in my life.
500
00:24:24,021 --> 00:24:26,006
I'd never seen who'd been this--
501
00:24:26,008 --> 00:24:30,004
Was this intent on,
uh, death.
502
00:24:30,006 --> 00:24:31,011
[♪♪]
503
00:24:31,013 --> 00:24:33,026
It felt to me alwayslike there was
504
00:24:33,028 --> 00:24:36,026
a mask or something there.
505
00:24:36,028 --> 00:24:39,004
And I remember that look
going over him.
506
00:24:39,006 --> 00:24:41,012
That unreachable look.
507
00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:44,013
DANA:
When Evan went througha mood swing
508
00:24:44,015 --> 00:24:45,021
his whole body changed.
509
00:24:45,023 --> 00:24:48,004
His face changed,his physical attitude changed.
510
00:24:48,006 --> 00:24:50,003
His abilityto communicate changed.
511
00:24:50,005 --> 00:24:53,013
And you literally saw itin his face.
512
00:24:53,015 --> 00:24:55,015
He became unreachable.
513
00:24:55,017 --> 00:24:58,019
Hart and I startedto call it the fugue state.
514
00:24:58,021 --> 00:25:00,001
You'd sort of go like this:
515
00:25:00,003 --> 00:25:02,028
The physical change would be
516
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,027
like a slackening of his face.
517
00:25:04,029 --> 00:25:07,012
It just wasn't engaged.
518
00:25:07,014 --> 00:25:09,020
Something receded.
519
00:25:09,022 --> 00:25:12,010
And what you had was
this kind of thing:
520
00:25:12,012 --> 00:25:13,020
This facade.
521
00:25:29,019 --> 00:25:32,012
MAN:
Some whales are real curious,
they come right up to the boat.
522
00:25:32,014 --> 00:25:35,025
Some whales turn the other cheek
and leave, essentially.
523
00:25:35,027 --> 00:25:38,013
DANA:
There was a tone of voicethat went along with it too.
524
00:25:38,015 --> 00:25:40,025
A very flat tone of voice.
525
00:25:41,022 --> 00:25:43,003
[GROUP GASPING]
526
00:25:43,005 --> 00:25:45,019
WOMAN:
They look like orcas to me.
527
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:49,023
HART:
Where'd you see the whale?
528
00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:52,027
I saw it over there
and over there.
529
00:25:54,013 --> 00:25:55,015
Pretty exciting seeing
530
00:25:55,017 --> 00:25:56,027
the size of the whale,
wasn't it?
531
00:25:56,029 --> 00:25:58,013
DANA:
Yeah, it was cool.
532
00:25:59,019 --> 00:26:01,023
He could be very sullen.
533
00:26:02,022 --> 00:26:04,018
HART:
534
00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:06,007
I-- What do you mean?
535
00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:09,017
Yeah, I am.
536
00:26:12,022 --> 00:26:14,010
Five.
HART: Five?
537
00:26:14,012 --> 00:26:16,004
This is the sixth.
538
00:26:16,006 --> 00:26:18,000
So this is
pretty exciting...
539
00:26:18,002 --> 00:26:20,001
He definitely actedlike a teenager
540
00:26:20,003 --> 00:26:21,024
at a very young age.
541
00:26:22,015 --> 00:26:24,015
You hungry?
542
00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:26,005
Yeah.
543
00:26:26,007 --> 00:26:29,007
Yeah, I want
a peanut butter sandwich.
544
00:26:33,003 --> 00:26:35,027
There's my goddamn control.
545
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:37,003
HART:
What'd you say?
546
00:26:37,005 --> 00:26:39,003
God.
No, that's not nice.
547
00:26:39,005 --> 00:26:42,008
HART:
He seemed to have skippedbeing a kid
548
00:26:42,010 --> 00:26:45,007
and gone immediatelyto being a adolescent.
549
00:26:45,009 --> 00:26:47,004
HART:
How was
the football game yesterday?
550
00:26:47,006 --> 00:26:48,028
EVAN:
551
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,014
DANA:
That you expectfrom your 15-year-old.
552
00:26:51,016 --> 00:26:53,002
You know,
"You're not the boss of me.
553
00:26:53,004 --> 00:26:54,010
Come on, give me the car keys."
554
00:26:54,012 --> 00:26:55,017
"Where you goin'?"
"Out."
555
00:26:55,019 --> 00:26:57,006
"What'd you do in school?"
"Nothin'."
556
00:26:57,008 --> 00:26:58,016
I mean, that seems normal.
557
00:26:58,018 --> 00:27:00,029
In a 7-year-old
it doesn't seem normal.
558
00:27:01,001 --> 00:27:03,014
And he was very teenage
it was--
559
00:27:03,016 --> 00:27:06,011
Along with that though,
he was also very sophisticated.
560
00:27:06,013 --> 00:27:07,013
[GUITAR PLAYING]
561
00:27:07,015 --> 00:27:08,025
EVAN [SINGING]:
562
00:27:10,008 --> 00:27:11,028
DANA:
He did not havea Britney Spears phase
563
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,019
he did not havea Backstreet Boys phase,
564
00:27:13,021 --> 00:27:16,013
he went straight to Dylan,Neil Young, Nirvana.
565
00:27:16,015 --> 00:27:19,002
And he wrotea lot of songs.
566
00:27:32,003 --> 00:27:35,004
His lyrics touched on thingsthat you can't imagine
567
00:27:35,006 --> 00:27:37,016
a kid that youngwould even think about.
568
00:27:37,018 --> 00:27:39,029
♪ You would think it's ♪
569
00:27:40,001 --> 00:27:42,002
♪ Odd for me ♪
570
00:27:43,017 --> 00:27:46,008
♪ If I could be ♪
571
00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:49,018
♪ Cuttin' myself
On the neck ♪
572
00:27:53,003 --> 00:27:55,024
♪ Fittin' you
With my knife ♪
573
00:27:55,026 --> 00:27:58,012
♪ Sayin' you're gonna
Die tonight ♪
574
00:27:58,014 --> 00:28:00,021
DANA:
Stop!
575
00:28:00,023 --> 00:28:02,009
♪ Well, that's because ♪
576
00:28:02,011 --> 00:28:04,024
♪ I'm depressed
Nothing less ♪
577
00:28:04,026 --> 00:28:07,021
♪ Curious, furious ♪
578
00:28:07,023 --> 00:28:10,018
♪ So somebody kill me please ♪
579
00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:12,020
♪ I'm standin' on my knees ♪
580
00:28:12,022 --> 00:28:14,003
[MIKEY SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY]
581
00:28:15,021 --> 00:28:18,015
♪ Somebody kill me please ♪
582
00:28:18,017 --> 00:28:20,004
♪ Pretty, pretty please ♪
583
00:28:20,006 --> 00:28:23,000
♪ I'm standin' on my knees ♪
584
00:28:25,005 --> 00:28:27,002
It's because I'm depressed.
585
00:28:27,004 --> 00:28:29,011
[♪♪]
586
00:28:29,013 --> 00:28:31,003
Okay, that's it.
587
00:28:33,005 --> 00:28:36,011
NICHOLAS:
When he was maybe 8 or 9he kept a journal
588
00:28:36,013 --> 00:28:38,025
and I saw it and took it out
589
00:28:38,027 --> 00:28:40,001
and started reading it.
590
00:28:40,003 --> 00:28:42,002
And there are these poems in it
591
00:28:42,004 --> 00:28:43,012
essentially saying,
592
00:28:43,014 --> 00:28:44,023
"I'm prepared for death.
593
00:28:44,025 --> 00:28:46,002
I'm not afraid of death."
594
00:28:46,004 --> 00:28:47,008
These really deep poems.
595
00:28:47,010 --> 00:28:48,022
And I was
596
00:28:48,024 --> 00:28:51,016
probably 15-16
597
00:28:51,018 --> 00:28:53,000
and going through
my moody phase.
598
00:28:53,002 --> 00:28:54,025
And I remember thinking,
"Wow.
599
00:28:54,027 --> 00:28:58,010
These are thoughts
I'm having right now."
600
00:28:59,021 --> 00:29:02,011
I felt there was somethingreally powerful
601
00:29:02,013 --> 00:29:04,000
going on in his mind,
602
00:29:04,002 --> 00:29:06,021
that he had a sensitivity,
603
00:29:06,023 --> 00:29:10,025
a maturity that wasway beyond his years.
604
00:29:13,012 --> 00:29:16,009
KAREN:
There's one playthat Evan wrote
605
00:29:16,011 --> 00:29:18,001
and his character was
606
00:29:18,003 --> 00:29:20,021
a depressed kid who just saw
the negativity in everything.
607
00:29:20,023 --> 00:29:22,022
Hey, kid.
Yeah?
608
00:29:22,024 --> 00:29:25,016
It's not raining
anymore.
609
00:29:25,018 --> 00:29:26,026
Just give it some t--
610
00:29:26,028 --> 00:29:29,006
Just give it some time,
it'll start up again.
611
00:29:29,008 --> 00:29:30,024
When he was 10he said,
612
00:29:30,026 --> 00:29:33,003
"Let's do a play
about someone dying--
613
00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:34,010
A boy dying."
614
00:29:34,012 --> 00:29:36,001
I said, "Well,
615
00:29:36,003 --> 00:29:37,013
what kind of story is that?"
616
00:29:37,015 --> 00:29:39,028
He said, "What? It's a story
about a kid dying."
617
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,029
And all his friends
and they miss him.
618
00:29:42,001 --> 00:29:45,012
[SOBBING]
How am I supposed to live
without you?
619
00:29:45,014 --> 00:29:47,025
You were my big brother.
620
00:29:47,027 --> 00:29:50,004
Who's gonna take care of me?
621
00:29:50,006 --> 00:29:52,001
Walk me to school?
622
00:29:52,003 --> 00:29:54,015
Calm me down
when I'm upset?
623
00:29:54,017 --> 00:29:57,008
Please, don't leave me.
624
00:29:57,010 --> 00:29:58,026
We'll be there for you.
625
00:29:58,028 --> 00:30:00,001
It will be okay.
626
00:30:00,003 --> 00:30:01,025
I'll walk you
to school.
627
00:30:01,027 --> 00:30:03,016
I can't leave him!
628
00:30:03,018 --> 00:30:05,004
Evan came up with a story
629
00:30:05,006 --> 00:30:06,009
that didn't make any sense.
630
00:30:06,011 --> 00:30:07,023
Just, someone died.
631
00:30:07,025 --> 00:30:09,010
And, you know, that they cry.
632
00:30:09,012 --> 00:30:12,011
You said you would
always be there for me.
633
00:30:12,013 --> 00:30:13,014
Well, I need you
634
00:30:13,016 --> 00:30:16,022
more than I ever have
right now.
635
00:30:16,024 --> 00:30:19,006
I think he wanted the play
636
00:30:19,008 --> 00:30:20,025
to be about the boy dying,
637
00:30:20,027 --> 00:30:23,006
which obviously washis character,
638
00:30:23,008 --> 00:30:26,018
and to be able to see itin a play
639
00:30:26,020 --> 00:30:29,000
that everybody loves him.
640
00:30:29,002 --> 00:30:30,029
I know that.
When you leave, it's like,
641
00:30:31,001 --> 00:30:32,016
that's when everyonegets together
642
00:30:32,018 --> 00:30:34,005
and they miss youand they honor you.
643
00:30:34,007 --> 00:30:35,019
He will always
be with us.
644
00:30:35,021 --> 00:30:38,011
You don't have to
look here, or in heaven.
645
00:30:38,013 --> 00:30:40,011
Look in your heart
and he'll be there.
646
00:30:40,013 --> 00:30:42,017
[ERIC CLAPTON'S "TEARS IN
HEAVEN" PLAYING]
647
00:30:43,028 --> 00:30:45,018
So we decided to do the show
648
00:30:45,020 --> 00:30:48,005
and that's when, um...
649
00:30:48,007 --> 00:30:50,001
you know, Evan attempted--
650
00:30:50,003 --> 00:30:51,021
Or came close
651
00:30:51,023 --> 00:30:54,003
to attempting
suicide at PS-11.
652
00:30:54,005 --> 00:30:56,010
[♪♪]
653
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,026
DANA:
The fall semester of 2000,
654
00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:04,024
when Evan was in fifth grade
655
00:31:04,026 --> 00:31:06,018
he communicated
656
00:31:06,020 --> 00:31:07,026
to the principal of his school
657
00:31:07,028 --> 00:31:09,015
that he felt suicidal.
658
00:31:11,004 --> 00:31:12,016
We get a letterand of course--
659
00:31:12,018 --> 00:31:14,028
You know, it says, "justa psychological evaluation."
660
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,026
Well, I'm already in therapy.
661
00:31:16,028 --> 00:31:18,014
I'm already seeing
a psychiatrist.
662
00:31:18,016 --> 00:31:20,007
He was already on meds.
I don't know--
663
00:31:20,009 --> 00:31:21,020
You know,
I don't know what to do.
664
00:31:21,022 --> 00:31:23,003
I don't know what to do.
665
00:31:24,015 --> 00:31:26,004
And three weeks later,
666
00:31:26,006 --> 00:31:28,010
he made an attempt at school.
667
00:31:30,010 --> 00:31:32,012
I got a call at my office.
668
00:31:32,014 --> 00:31:34,005
"This is Mr. Delmonico
669
00:31:34,007 --> 00:31:37,016
from PS-11and this is about Evan."
670
00:31:37,018 --> 00:31:39,019
He said,
"It's-it's very serious.
671
00:31:39,021 --> 00:31:41,008
Um, you need to get here."
672
00:31:41,010 --> 00:31:44,000
And I'm like, "You have to
tell me what's going on."
673
00:31:44,002 --> 00:31:47,017
He said, "He's up on the roof
of his school."
674
00:31:47,019 --> 00:31:49,026
PS-11, it's probably
675
00:31:49,028 --> 00:31:51,025
six stories.
676
00:31:51,027 --> 00:31:53,020
And he tooka chunk of pavement
677
00:31:53,022 --> 00:31:55,006
about the sizeof a hamburger
678
00:31:55,008 --> 00:31:57,004
and threw it downonto the playground
679
00:31:57,006 --> 00:31:58,015
where the other kids were.
680
00:31:59,028 --> 00:32:02,012
One of the teacherswent out on the roof
681
00:32:02,014 --> 00:32:06,001
and there was Evan,perched on a ledge.
682
00:32:06,003 --> 00:32:09,009
And Evan told himthat he wanted to kill himself,
683
00:32:09,011 --> 00:32:11,004
that he was gonna jump.
684
00:32:11,006 --> 00:32:14,010
The teacher told himthat life was worth living
685
00:32:14,012 --> 00:32:16,023
and what was good about Evan,
686
00:32:16,025 --> 00:32:18,016
and that he was loved.
687
00:32:18,018 --> 00:32:21,016
And eventually Evancame down on his own.
688
00:32:22,018 --> 00:32:24,003
By the time I got there,
689
00:32:24,005 --> 00:32:27,007
he had been brought downinto the principal's office
690
00:32:27,009 --> 00:32:29,019
and we were there
in the principal's office
691
00:32:29,021 --> 00:32:31,005
and we decided to go straight
692
00:32:31,007 --> 00:32:34,009
from there to an emergency room.
693
00:32:34,011 --> 00:32:35,016
[SIREN WAILS]
694
00:32:35,018 --> 00:32:37,005
One of the residentsasked him,
695
00:32:37,007 --> 00:32:40,006
"Do you know what it's liketo be dead?"
696
00:32:40,008 --> 00:32:42,022
He says, "Yeah,everybody gathers around
697
00:32:42,024 --> 00:32:45,021
and talks abouthow great you were."
698
00:32:45,023 --> 00:32:47,016
HART:
And for me it was like,
699
00:32:47,018 --> 00:32:49,003
this is my worst fear.
700
00:32:49,005 --> 00:32:51,002
He is like my brother.
701
00:32:51,004 --> 00:32:52,025
[PROJECTOR CLICKING]
702
00:32:54,006 --> 00:32:56,019
My younger brother Scottcommitted suicide
703
00:32:56,021 --> 00:33:00,003
by asphyxiating himselfin a car.
704
00:33:07,014 --> 00:33:09,017
Because of my experiencewith my brother
705
00:33:09,019 --> 00:33:13,000
I wasn't going tofool around.
706
00:33:13,002 --> 00:33:16,012
We had Evan
involuntarily committed
707
00:33:16,014 --> 00:33:18,014
to a mental institution.
708
00:33:18,016 --> 00:33:21,004
Uh, 'cause we were...
709
00:33:21,006 --> 00:33:24,005
very, very concerned
about his suicide attempt.
710
00:33:24,007 --> 00:33:25,010
We took it very seriously.
711
00:33:25,012 --> 00:33:29,002
The place he wentwas called Four Winds.
712
00:33:29,004 --> 00:33:30,021
It's outside of New York,
713
00:33:30,023 --> 00:33:34,015
and it's a lock-uppsychiatric facility.
714
00:33:35,018 --> 00:33:36,029
SUZANNE:
Evan was brought in
715
00:33:37,001 --> 00:33:40,011
by ambulance after having
an incident at school.
716
00:33:40,013 --> 00:33:43,007
Um, he was brought to
the Deerfield Unit
717
00:33:43,009 --> 00:33:45,013
which is the unit
I was working on at the time.
718
00:33:45,015 --> 00:33:47,016
Which is for kids 8 to 12.
719
00:33:47,018 --> 00:33:51,006
And immediately assessedand evaluated.
720
00:33:51,008 --> 00:33:52,020
We were able to establish
721
00:33:52,022 --> 00:33:54,022
a, uh-- A pattern.
722
00:33:54,024 --> 00:33:56,010
And saw that he definitely,
723
00:33:56,012 --> 00:33:58,027
uh, met the criteria
for bipolar disorder.
724
00:33:58,029 --> 00:34:01,006
[PROJECTOR CLICKING]
725
00:34:01,008 --> 00:34:03,029
You know, known historicallyas manic-depression.
726
00:34:04,001 --> 00:34:06,000
This is a chemical imbalance,
727
00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:08,027
a chemical illnessin the brain.
728
00:34:08,029 --> 00:34:12,017
Some kids have more ofa propensity towards depression
729
00:34:12,019 --> 00:34:15,002
and some kids have more ofa propensity towards mania.
730
00:34:15,004 --> 00:34:16,008
I think in Evan's case,
731
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:18,016
it was definitelymore depression.
732
00:34:20,015 --> 00:34:23,025
Bipolar depressionis definitely more severe
733
00:34:23,027 --> 00:34:26,012
than just depression.
734
00:34:26,014 --> 00:34:29,011
That's why suicide attempts
are more common
735
00:34:29,013 --> 00:34:31,021
in kidswith bipolar depression.
736
00:34:31,023 --> 00:34:34,004
And that's why it's scarier.
737
00:34:34,006 --> 00:34:36,014
'Cause you don't knowhow far he'll take it.
738
00:34:36,016 --> 00:34:39,014
You know, you don't knowif he actually would
739
00:34:39,016 --> 00:34:42,015
have jumped off that ledgeat school.
740
00:34:42,017 --> 00:34:44,007
You know,
he had a tendency to blame
741
00:34:44,009 --> 00:34:46,009
other people
or other situations
742
00:34:46,011 --> 00:34:48,018
instead of being able to say,
"Okay, yeah, I get it.
743
00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:50,019
"I did something
I probably shouldn't have done,
744
00:34:50,021 --> 00:34:53,025
it scared a lot of peopleand that's why I'm here."
745
00:34:53,027 --> 00:34:55,006
He just sort of said,
746
00:34:55,008 --> 00:34:57,024
"All I wantedwas someone to listen."
747
00:34:57,026 --> 00:34:59,012
And he just couldn't understand
748
00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:02,028
that his behaviors
and the measure that he took
749
00:35:03,001 --> 00:35:04,029
were scary to people.
750
00:35:05,001 --> 00:35:07,021
He didn't think that if he went
and stood on the, uh--
751
00:35:07,023 --> 00:35:10,006
The roof of the school,
that anything would happen.
752
00:35:10,008 --> 00:35:11,023
So when he ended up
in a hospital
753
00:35:11,025 --> 00:35:14,017
where it's lock down
and they watch you every second
754
00:35:14,019 --> 00:35:16,005
and you're not allowed
to do anything
755
00:35:16,007 --> 00:35:18,003
unless it's part
of the schedule
756
00:35:18,005 --> 00:35:19,023
and there are these
other damaged kids
757
00:35:19,025 --> 00:35:21,022
and your parents can only visit
once in a while.
758
00:35:21,024 --> 00:35:23,026
He just broke down.
[♪♪]
759
00:35:23,028 --> 00:35:26,022
I mean, he just fell apart.He fell apart.
760
00:35:28,011 --> 00:35:30,021
SUZANNE:
He was destroying propertyon the unit.
761
00:35:30,023 --> 00:35:32,025
He was very, very angry.
762
00:35:32,027 --> 00:35:35,015
At one point I rememberhe drew all over his walls
763
00:35:35,017 --> 00:35:39,005
in his room and we had tohave him clean his walls.
764
00:35:39,007 --> 00:35:42,015
He also was tantrumming a lot,he was angry a lot.
765
00:35:42,017 --> 00:35:46,008
He was banging his headand his arms up against a wall.
766
00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:49,007
When he was in the throesof a manic episode
767
00:35:49,009 --> 00:35:51,002
or a depressive episode,
768
00:35:51,004 --> 00:35:52,022
you know, you couldn't reason.
769
00:35:52,024 --> 00:35:56,000
And you can't reasonwith a kid who's bipolar.
770
00:35:56,002 --> 00:35:58,007
HART:
Visiting Evan at Four Winds
771
00:35:58,009 --> 00:36:00,019
was agonizing.
772
00:36:00,021 --> 00:36:02,021
Here is a kid
773
00:36:02,023 --> 00:36:06,000
who was in a lock-up
psychiatric facility
774
00:36:06,002 --> 00:36:09,009
for seriously
mentally ill kids.
775
00:36:09,011 --> 00:36:11,019
And coming to terms
with your kid
776
00:36:11,021 --> 00:36:13,026
who seemed to have
behavioral issues
777
00:36:13,028 --> 00:36:15,028
but he could've just,
you know--
778
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,003
Be like an adolescent,
779
00:36:17,005 --> 00:36:19,002
that this is something
he'd go through.
780
00:36:19,004 --> 00:36:20,019
Because he had so many really,
781
00:36:20,021 --> 00:36:23,013
you know, charming,
bright qualities.
782
00:36:23,015 --> 00:36:26,012
Four Winds was, uh,
783
00:36:26,014 --> 00:36:28,014
a real body punch.
784
00:36:28,016 --> 00:36:32,025
Evan was given a varietyof medications.
785
00:36:32,027 --> 00:36:34,022
Depakote was one of them.
786
00:36:34,024 --> 00:36:37,003
Uh, he seemed really doped up.
787
00:36:37,005 --> 00:36:38,028
And then they suggested
788
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,010
that he try lithium.
789
00:36:41,012 --> 00:36:43,011
SUZANNE:
Lithium is a mood stabilizer
790
00:36:43,013 --> 00:36:45,014
and it is used to level off
791
00:36:45,016 --> 00:36:47,015
the serotonin in the brain
792
00:36:47,017 --> 00:36:49,027
as opposed to havingthe highs and lows
793
00:36:49,029 --> 00:36:54,009
you kind of even offthe chemistry.
794
00:36:54,011 --> 00:36:56,012
DANA:
He really did startto respond to lithium.
795
00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:58,019
I mean, it was really,pretty remarkable.
796
00:36:58,021 --> 00:37:02,002
But he was still, you know,profoundly ill.
797
00:37:02,004 --> 00:37:03,020
So then the questionbecame like:
798
00:37:03,022 --> 00:37:06,015
Well, what do we do after this?
799
00:37:06,017 --> 00:37:08,016
[BIRDS CAWING]
800
00:37:08,018 --> 00:37:11,000
HART:
PS-11 would not take him back
801
00:37:11,002 --> 00:37:13,015
and there was no placefor him to go.
802
00:37:13,017 --> 00:37:16,005
Uh, except for thisvery expensive alternative
803
00:37:16,007 --> 00:37:19,011
which turned out to,I think, have saved his life
804
00:37:19,013 --> 00:37:22,003
for a number of years.
805
00:37:22,005 --> 00:37:24,029
DANA:
Suzanne Hanna who washis therapist
806
00:37:25,001 --> 00:37:27,003
recommended this placecalled Wellspring
807
00:37:27,005 --> 00:37:30,012
which was what they callMilieu Therapy.
808
00:37:30,014 --> 00:37:31,018
Everything's an opportunity
809
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:33,003
to learn how to livein the group.
810
00:37:33,005 --> 00:37:35,005
From doing the dishes,making meals,
811
00:37:35,007 --> 00:37:36,008
to taking care of animals,
812
00:37:36,010 --> 00:37:38,015
to taking careof younger children,
813
00:37:38,017 --> 00:37:41,005
to choresand things like that.
814
00:37:42,004 --> 00:37:43,029
DAN:
Evan came to us
815
00:37:44,001 --> 00:37:45,023
from Four Winds hospital
816
00:37:45,025 --> 00:37:48,016
and they were pretty adamant
that the bipolar disorder was,
817
00:37:48,018 --> 00:37:51,006
um, managed,
medication-wise
818
00:37:51,008 --> 00:37:53,026
and that he was on
the proper dosages
819
00:37:53,028 --> 00:37:55,014
and, uh, that seemed
to be the case
820
00:37:55,016 --> 00:37:56,027
on some level we saw.
821
00:37:56,029 --> 00:37:59,014
And then, right away,
within a few days,
822
00:37:59,016 --> 00:38:01,001
Evan decided to venture
823
00:38:01,003 --> 00:38:03,022
off campus and, uh...
824
00:38:03,024 --> 00:38:06,004
Obvious question
at that point was:
825
00:38:06,006 --> 00:38:08,002
Was it really controlled?
826
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,005
Three days in he decidedthat he wasn't gonna have it.
827
00:38:13,007 --> 00:38:14,018
You know,that this whole thing
828
00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:16,002
about the adults beingin charge
829
00:38:16,004 --> 00:38:18,026
really wasn't for him.
830
00:38:18,028 --> 00:38:21,009
He made it a little bit morecomplicated than he had to.
831
00:38:21,011 --> 00:38:22,027
Built in a littledramatic effect,
832
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,003
he went out a window.He could've went out the door.
833
00:38:25,005 --> 00:38:27,014
We don't have--The doors aren't locked.
834
00:38:27,016 --> 00:38:29,010
Oh, I see,
so he went out the window
835
00:38:29,012 --> 00:38:31,004
and then went on the roof,
836
00:38:31,006 --> 00:38:32,011
and then jumped down.
837
00:38:32,013 --> 00:38:35,005
So this was like--
That involved some doing.
838
00:38:35,007 --> 00:38:37,022
HART:
Dana gets a phone callfrom Evan,
839
00:38:37,024 --> 00:38:40,008
that he's climbed out
a window
840
00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:42,010
and escaped from Wellspring
841
00:38:42,012 --> 00:38:44,025
and is in some guy's house.
842
00:38:44,027 --> 00:38:46,017
Of course, we had to go
to juvenile court
843
00:38:46,019 --> 00:38:49,004
because the guy whose house
he broke into,
844
00:38:49,006 --> 00:38:51,007
uh, pressed charges.
845
00:38:51,009 --> 00:38:54,026
I think the neighbor
whose house he was in
846
00:38:54,028 --> 00:38:57,014
was quite unforgiving.
847
00:38:57,016 --> 00:38:59,016
You know, luckily,he didn't do anything
848
00:38:59,018 --> 00:39:01,011
with that man's housethat day,
849
00:39:01,013 --> 00:39:02,020
but he was trying to get
850
00:39:02,022 --> 00:39:04,026
a rise out of his parentsto come rescue him.
851
00:39:04,028 --> 00:39:06,015
Show them just how muchhe's suffering
852
00:39:06,017 --> 00:39:08,018
and he'll go homeand stir it all up again
853
00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:10,016
and be backin the hospital again in--
854
00:39:10,018 --> 00:39:11,028
You know, another year.
855
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,020
It was as if he was in a game.
856
00:39:14,022 --> 00:39:16,027
It was an important event,
857
00:39:16,029 --> 00:39:19,022
and it really kind of marked
that need for a switch.
858
00:39:19,024 --> 00:39:23,008
That-that Evan really needed
to be held accountable
859
00:39:23,010 --> 00:39:25,015
for the relational damage
he was doing.
860
00:39:25,017 --> 00:39:28,004
So that event was a microcosm
861
00:39:28,006 --> 00:39:30,003
of what had happened
in his life.
862
00:39:30,005 --> 00:39:32,011
He wasn't being held
accountable on some level
863
00:39:32,013 --> 00:39:34,008
for the damage he did
to you all.
864
00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:36,006
That was the first night
we were here.
865
00:39:36,008 --> 00:39:37,015
We sat right here, right?
866
00:39:37,017 --> 00:39:38,017
Yup.
867
00:39:38,019 --> 00:39:41,003
As I recall, um,
you had us in first
868
00:39:41,005 --> 00:39:43,000
and kind of gave us
a little heads up
869
00:39:43,002 --> 00:39:45,001
and then Evan came in
870
00:39:45,003 --> 00:39:46,021
and he had us,
I think, sit on his--
871
00:39:46,023 --> 00:39:48,021
Sit in our laps and--
Right.
872
00:39:48,023 --> 00:39:51,018
And you told him we had to talk
to him really honestly.
873
00:39:51,020 --> 00:39:52,020
Right.
874
00:39:52,022 --> 00:39:53,024
And I did and it was--
875
00:39:53,026 --> 00:39:56,006
It was like
this incredible relief
876
00:39:56,008 --> 00:39:59,021
because I had permission
to say what I was feeling
877
00:39:59,023 --> 00:40:01,025
without being afraid
of breaking him.
878
00:40:01,027 --> 00:40:03,001
You know?
I remember.
879
00:40:03,003 --> 00:40:04,015
And you-you were like,
"Really?"
880
00:40:04,017 --> 00:40:06,016
[CHUCKLES]
Yeah, I was like, really?
881
00:40:06,018 --> 00:40:08,000
Well, if I tell him
that I'm afraid
882
00:40:08,002 --> 00:40:09,021
I'm gonna find him dead,
he'll explode.
883
00:40:09,023 --> 00:40:11,025
And the world will end
and, you know,
884
00:40:11,027 --> 00:40:13,014
all this stuff
will come rushing out,
885
00:40:13,016 --> 00:40:14,018
and we'll be poisonous,
886
00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:16,010
and we won't be
able to survive it.
887
00:40:16,012 --> 00:40:19,005
And I think,
to all of our amazement,
888
00:40:19,007 --> 00:40:21,001
we not only survived,
889
00:40:21,003 --> 00:40:23,005
but started building,
you know, on that.
890
00:40:23,007 --> 00:40:25,016
[♪♪]
891
00:40:25,018 --> 00:40:27,016
DANA:
Finally he started to work
892
00:40:27,018 --> 00:40:29,006
with the therapy at Wellspring.
893
00:40:29,008 --> 00:40:31,026
And slowly, bit by bit,
894
00:40:31,028 --> 00:40:34,016
he started to come aroundto their philosophy.
895
00:40:34,018 --> 00:40:38,000
We came frequently for,
you know, sessions,
896
00:40:38,002 --> 00:40:41,008
where we learnedhow to communicate as a family.
897
00:40:41,010 --> 00:40:44,015
With Evan--With his unique needs.
898
00:40:44,017 --> 00:40:46,007
It was like learning
a new language.
899
00:40:46,009 --> 00:40:49,011
DANA:
They basically saythat children are responsible
900
00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:50,026
for their actions.
901
00:40:50,028 --> 00:40:52,000
Let's put it really simply:
902
00:40:52,002 --> 00:40:53,029
If you make a mess,
you clean it up.
903
00:40:54,001 --> 00:40:55,010
Whether it's a physical mess
904
00:40:55,012 --> 00:40:57,018
like you spilled something,you need to clean up,
905
00:40:57,020 --> 00:40:58,024
or an emotional mess.
906
00:40:58,026 --> 00:41:00,010
I remember coming here
907
00:41:00,012 --> 00:41:03,018
and seeing, uh, Evan working
on that stone wall over there.
908
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,012
DAN:
For a child to think
they cleaned up their mess
909
00:41:07,014 --> 00:41:09,008
and they made something
a little better,
910
00:41:09,010 --> 00:41:11,010
rather than feeling
like you were punished
911
00:41:11,012 --> 00:41:13,014
or you had consequences
or whatever.
912
00:41:13,016 --> 00:41:14,022
But in this case you get to feel
913
00:41:14,024 --> 00:41:16,025
like you really
repaired something.
914
00:41:16,027 --> 00:41:19,010
Yeah, and maybe that's even
better than it was before.
915
00:41:19,012 --> 00:41:21,014
DANA:
I think what happenedat Wellspring
916
00:41:21,016 --> 00:41:25,005
is that they encouragedEvan to be a boy.
917
00:41:25,007 --> 00:41:27,024
I think a lotof their philosophy is
918
00:41:27,026 --> 00:41:29,021
to let children be children.
919
00:41:29,023 --> 00:41:32,018
DAN:
When he came he waskind of running the show.
920
00:41:32,020 --> 00:41:35,005
You know,he was in adult conversations,
921
00:41:35,007 --> 00:41:39,000
and he would much prefer
being with the staff
922
00:41:39,002 --> 00:41:40,018
than he would
with the other kids.
923
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:42,024
He really neededto be a kid again
924
00:41:42,026 --> 00:41:44,016
and just have funand relax and--
925
00:41:44,018 --> 00:41:48,025
And forget about all thosebigger issues.
926
00:41:48,027 --> 00:41:51,019
DANA:
Especially for Evan who wasreally acting like
927
00:41:51,021 --> 00:41:53,006
such a teenagerat such a young age,
928
00:41:53,008 --> 00:41:56,002
it was a miracleto see him get past
929
00:41:56,004 --> 00:41:57,026
that facade of "I'm too cool."
930
00:41:57,028 --> 00:42:00,007
And to just be a pure boy.
931
00:42:00,009 --> 00:42:03,000
And I remember a time
seeing him at Wellspring
932
00:42:03,002 --> 00:42:05,023
playing in the yard
with pure boyness,
933
00:42:05,025 --> 00:42:08,008
that boy essence, which is whatyou need at that age.
934
00:42:08,010 --> 00:42:10,008
It's a beautiful day,you're throwing a ball
935
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:11,010
with your friends.
936
00:42:11,012 --> 00:42:13,009
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
937
00:42:13,011 --> 00:42:16,024
DANA:
Early on, I'd say in the firstfour weeks or so,
938
00:42:16,026 --> 00:42:18,006
he began to earnweekend passes,
939
00:42:18,008 --> 00:42:20,014
so the weekendof Michael's birthday,
940
00:42:20,016 --> 00:42:21,019
he finally did get released,
941
00:42:21,021 --> 00:42:23,000
and he was atthe birthday party
942
00:42:23,002 --> 00:42:24,029
and I remember looking at himand thinking,
943
00:42:25,001 --> 00:42:27,019
"Oh, he looks like a boy."
944
00:42:29,029 --> 00:42:32,028
I mean, the old Evanwould've been too cool,
945
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,019
he would've beenturning up his nose,
946
00:42:34,021 --> 00:42:35,026
and he would've been sneering,
947
00:42:35,028 --> 00:42:37,011
he wouldn't havein a million years
948
00:42:37,013 --> 00:42:40,025
let the clown paint his face.Okay, never.
949
00:42:40,027 --> 00:42:43,013
He allowed himself to be a kid.
950
00:42:48,009 --> 00:42:51,005
I-- I saw those layerspeel away.
951
00:42:51,007 --> 00:42:53,011
And a lot of it had to do with
952
00:42:53,013 --> 00:42:56,009
how strict the counselors were.
They weren't having it.
953
00:42:56,011 --> 00:42:58,016
Evan could try to talk his way
out of anything.
954
00:42:58,018 --> 00:43:01,015
And Dan's just saying"I'm not going anywhere."
955
00:43:01,017 --> 00:43:04,014
DAN:
Remember, you know,bipolar disorder is not just
956
00:43:04,016 --> 00:43:06,026
a disorder of mood,it's a disorder of judgment.
957
00:43:06,028 --> 00:43:09,006
And for kidsthat's so debilitating.
958
00:43:09,008 --> 00:43:10,027
If the adultsdon't hold them close
959
00:43:10,029 --> 00:43:12,010
and make them responsible.
960
00:43:12,012 --> 00:43:15,014
What he needed to know
is that you guys were in charge,
961
00:43:15,016 --> 00:43:17,025
and then he could build
from your judgment,
962
00:43:17,027 --> 00:43:19,020
and that's what he allowed
us to do first,
963
00:43:19,022 --> 00:43:21,014
'cause he looked around,
he said, "Okay,
964
00:43:21,016 --> 00:43:23,026
I'm not getting over on these
guys, I'll let that happen."
965
00:43:23,028 --> 00:43:25,026
And then we obviously
bridge that to you.
966
00:43:25,028 --> 00:43:28,024
It was one of the shorteststays we've really ever had,
967
00:43:28,026 --> 00:43:31,012
uh, of a boy with so muchgoing on in his life.
968
00:43:31,014 --> 00:43:34,008
Three monthsis really an unusual time
969
00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:36,013
to get all that done.
970
00:43:36,015 --> 00:43:38,023
DANA:
By the timeEvan finished at Wellspring,
971
00:43:38,025 --> 00:43:40,023
the lithium had definitelykicked in.
972
00:43:40,025 --> 00:43:42,029
Along with the therapy,it was working,
973
00:43:43,001 --> 00:43:45,012
and you couldn't haveone without the other.
974
00:43:45,014 --> 00:43:48,022
He seemed well enoughto rejoin our family.
975
00:43:48,024 --> 00:43:52,023
HART:
The whole family went toWellspring, and we all learned,
976
00:43:52,025 --> 00:43:57,003
and when it was over,
here we had this kid again,
977
00:43:57,005 --> 00:43:59,022
and what do we do with him?
978
00:44:01,014 --> 00:44:03,026
HART:
So we decided to seewhether we could get him
979
00:44:03,028 --> 00:44:06,019
into a mainstream schoolwhich was sensitive
980
00:44:06,021 --> 00:44:08,010
to kids who had issues.
981
00:44:08,012 --> 00:44:11,010
So we got him into a schoolcalled York Prep.
982
00:44:11,012 --> 00:44:14,021
And suddenly everythingwas different.
983
00:44:14,023 --> 00:44:15,026
[BELL RINGING]
984
00:44:17,026 --> 00:44:21,012
We would get a report cardand he was, like,
985
00:44:21,014 --> 00:44:24,004
one of the best studentsin the class.
986
00:44:24,006 --> 00:44:25,025
The teachers were saying
987
00:44:25,027 --> 00:44:30,009
"I wish all my studentswere like Evan."
988
00:44:30,011 --> 00:44:33,026
He got the prizein the science project.
989
00:44:33,028 --> 00:44:37,004
HART: So what's this?
My science fair.
990
00:44:40,007 --> 00:44:42,008
DANA:
Now you've got
the ribbon.
991
00:44:44,025 --> 00:44:47,015
The ribbon.
992
00:44:47,017 --> 00:44:49,019
BOY:
It was so hard,
taking them so fast.
993
00:44:49,021 --> 00:44:51,025
There are, like, 40 pictures
with digital camera,
994
00:44:51,027 --> 00:44:53,010
and none of 'em worked.
995
00:44:53,012 --> 00:44:55,020
DANA:
One of the great thingsabout Evan going to York
996
00:44:55,022 --> 00:44:58,013
is he found such a great groupof friends.
997
00:44:58,015 --> 00:45:00,006
It took awhile for him to, like,
998
00:45:00,008 --> 00:45:02,017
kind of gain your trust
and stuff like that,
999
00:45:02,019 --> 00:45:04,007
and, um, after awhile, it was--
1000
00:45:04,009 --> 00:45:06,028
He was just one of those people
I could talk to about anything,
1001
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,016
and come to him
with any problem.
1002
00:45:08,018 --> 00:45:11,001
Once we started hanging out,
I started to, like, you know,
1003
00:45:11,003 --> 00:45:12,011
figure out his interest in toys.
1004
00:45:12,013 --> 00:45:15,003
And I really liked toys,
like, toys was my thing,
1005
00:45:15,005 --> 00:45:17,010
and toys was his thing,
and cartoons were his thing.
1006
00:45:17,012 --> 00:45:18,014
And cartoons were my thing.
1007
00:45:18,016 --> 00:45:19,029
Well,
he was definitely different
1008
00:45:20,001 --> 00:45:22,011
from all the other kids
we hung out with.
1009
00:45:22,013 --> 00:45:26,016
Nobody seemed to have strong
opinions like him.
1010
00:45:26,018 --> 00:45:29,001
He was really set in his ways.
1011
00:45:29,003 --> 00:45:31,022
And once he had an idea
he wasn't gonna let it go.
1012
00:45:31,024 --> 00:45:34,010
Lot of stuff people say in high
school they don't really mean
1013
00:45:34,012 --> 00:45:36,022
or they're just trying to be
popular, but, like, you know,
1014
00:45:36,024 --> 00:45:40,016
Evan, he would just go right
into it, he wouldn't hold back.
1015
00:45:40,018 --> 00:45:44,003
What I liked about Evan was that
he, uh, was really creative,
1016
00:45:44,005 --> 00:45:47,017
and was interested in a lot of
things that, like, not like--
1017
00:45:47,019 --> 00:45:50,021
Not just TV. Like, a lot of kids
were just watching TV,
1018
00:45:50,023 --> 00:45:52,017
and he was making TV.
1019
00:45:52,019 --> 00:45:54,007
[ALL LAUGHING]
1020
00:45:54,009 --> 00:45:57,001
HART:
Evan had various,you know, movie ideas.
1021
00:45:57,003 --> 00:46:01,016
When he was youngerhe roped me into shooting them.
1022
00:46:01,018 --> 00:46:03,016
HART: Come on, let's start.
All right, ready.
1023
00:46:03,018 --> 00:46:05,029
It's rolling now.
You guys, shut up!
1024
00:46:06,001 --> 00:46:07,005
HART:
Okay, ready?
1025
00:46:07,007 --> 00:46:09,024
Three, two, one, action.
1026
00:46:09,026 --> 00:46:13,023
Hi, I'm Adam Luke, and I'm here
to host a new reality TV show
1027
00:46:13,025 --> 00:46:16,017
titled, "What it Takes
to be an Astronaut."
1028
00:46:16,019 --> 00:46:18,012
HART:
There was a certainamount of chaos
1029
00:46:18,014 --> 00:46:20,008
that was involvedin the creation of them.
1030
00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:23,006
All right, a redneck, and then,
Gabe, you have to say something.
1031
00:46:23,008 --> 00:46:25,013
You have Chinese ADD,
don't forget.
1032
00:46:25,015 --> 00:46:27,026
[IMITATING CHINESE ACCENT]
I go to space all the time.
1033
00:46:27,028 --> 00:46:32,002
Spaces. Spaces.
No gravity.
1034
00:46:32,004 --> 00:46:34,019
Okay, I'm not Chinese, 'cause
it's too hard to be Chinese.
1035
00:46:34,021 --> 00:46:36,020
You're Chi-- You have ADD,
what's the ADD about?
1036
00:46:36,022 --> 00:46:38,022
ADD, ADD,
no Chinese.
1037
00:46:38,024 --> 00:46:40,027
[ALL LAUGHING]
1038
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,005
Do you know how long
it took us
1039
00:46:43,007 --> 00:46:45,016
just to get through
these three lines? It took--
1040
00:46:45,018 --> 00:46:47,025
HART:
Just try to play it a little
more serious, okay?
1041
00:46:47,027 --> 00:46:49,019
You.
Who are you supposed to be?
1042
00:46:49,021 --> 00:46:53,014
HART:
It doesn't really-- At this
point, it doesn't matter.
1043
00:46:53,016 --> 00:46:55,018
I wanna do-- I wanna do
the whole thing over again.
1044
00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:57,016
HART:
What do you mean,
"the whole thing"?
1045
00:46:57,018 --> 00:46:59,011
'Cause I was--
1046
00:46:59,013 --> 00:47:01,016
[ALL SINGING INDISTINCTLY]
1047
00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:07,013
♪ I say, "Yo, man
You want to fly through space" ♪
1048
00:47:07,015 --> 00:47:10,006
WILL:
All the films we were makingwere all disasters.
1049
00:47:10,008 --> 00:47:11,028
We always got too excited
about 'em,
1050
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,018
'cause, like,
we'd have microphones,
1051
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:15,011
we have a nice camera,
and we'd, like,
1052
00:47:15,013 --> 00:47:17,024
talk about it and talk about it
and talk about it.
1053
00:47:17,026 --> 00:47:20,019
And then we'd just--
Wouldn't finish it.
1054
00:47:20,021 --> 00:47:22,013
[♪♪]
1055
00:47:22,015 --> 00:47:25,027
AIDAN:
There was a summer Evanwent to New York Film Academy,
1056
00:47:25,029 --> 00:47:27,022
and asked me to be
in one of his movies.
1057
00:47:29,001 --> 00:47:30,025
The assignment was to shoot,uh,
1058
00:47:30,027 --> 00:47:33,015
in black and whiteand no sound.
1059
00:47:34,022 --> 00:47:36,027
He made a movieabout me waking up
1060
00:47:36,029 --> 00:47:39,018
in a world with no soundand no color.
1061
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:42,014
[MOUTHING]
No!
1062
00:48:08,029 --> 00:48:11,028
I never knew that there was
anything wrong with him.
1063
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,028
He took medication.
I had no idea.
1064
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,016
Never brought it up.
1065
00:48:15,018 --> 00:48:17,001
Never talked about it.
1066
00:48:17,003 --> 00:48:20,001
Sometimes we got a little
suspicious 'cause, like,
1067
00:48:20,003 --> 00:48:22,026
he would just be really quiet
for a long period of time,
1068
00:48:22,028 --> 00:48:26,018
but we just accustomed to it
because he did it a lot.
1069
00:48:26,020 --> 00:48:28,009
He would miss school
every now and then.
1070
00:48:28,011 --> 00:48:29,029
I can tell-- I knew--
I would, like,
1071
00:48:30,001 --> 00:48:31,014
I would tell him
he's on his period,
1072
00:48:31,016 --> 00:48:34,026
because he's, like,
he looks like he-- You know,
1073
00:48:34,028 --> 00:48:37,011
he would have a month wherehe's just, like, moping around.
1074
00:48:37,013 --> 00:48:39,010
And then he'd have a monthwhere's he's, like,
1075
00:48:39,012 --> 00:48:40,020
really happy, really happy.
1076
00:48:40,022 --> 00:48:42,025
And he would tell me,"Listen, the more happy I get,
1077
00:48:42,027 --> 00:48:44,017
the more pissed offI'm gonna get later."
1078
00:48:44,019 --> 00:48:47,011
AIDAN:
One time, I think,going out to the roof,
1079
00:48:47,013 --> 00:48:50,006
I remember him sitting
on the ledge, like...
1080
00:48:50,008 --> 00:48:51,014
And it really, like, scared me.
1081
00:48:51,016 --> 00:48:53,011
And he just seemed to be
completely fearless,
1082
00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:56,024
like, almost willing to just
walk-- Like, walk on the edge.
1083
00:48:56,026 --> 00:48:59,012
And I really, like,
kind of yelled at him, like,
1084
00:48:59,014 --> 00:49:01,008
"Get down from the edge,"
you know.
1085
00:49:01,010 --> 00:49:03,017
That's, like,
not something you do.
1086
00:49:03,019 --> 00:49:06,024
And it just-- He kind of
distanced himself like that.
1087
00:49:06,026 --> 00:49:08,002
It was almost like showing--
1088
00:49:08,004 --> 00:49:10,019
Showing me, like,
"I don't really care."
1089
00:49:10,021 --> 00:49:11,026
We talked about it a little,
1090
00:49:11,028 --> 00:49:13,014
but he always
sort of brushed it away,
1091
00:49:13,016 --> 00:49:16,013
and he sort of said,
"But I'm over that now." And...
1092
00:49:16,015 --> 00:49:18,012
We all thoughthe was pretty good,
1093
00:49:18,014 --> 00:49:19,027
and he always actedreally great.
1094
00:49:19,029 --> 00:49:21,025
And there were no real signsof any, like,
1095
00:49:21,027 --> 00:49:23,004
real depression or anything.
1096
00:49:23,006 --> 00:49:27,010
I was totally optimistic
about his health
1097
00:49:27,012 --> 00:49:29,012
and the direction
that he was gonna go.
1098
00:49:29,014 --> 00:49:33,003
NICHOLAS:
When I'd come home from schooland spend holidays,
1099
00:49:33,005 --> 00:49:35,008
I remember remarking to myself,you know,
1100
00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:39,006
"This is a much more warm,loving household
1101
00:49:39,008 --> 00:49:42,026
then it was two years earlier.
1102
00:49:42,028 --> 00:49:45,026
I guess that's what I saw
after Wellspring,
1103
00:49:45,028 --> 00:49:48,008
that Dana and my father
1104
00:49:48,010 --> 00:49:50,024
really showing him that
1105
00:49:50,026 --> 00:49:55,016
within our family liesa really strong foundation
1106
00:49:55,018 --> 00:49:57,002
that he can trust.
1107
00:49:57,004 --> 00:50:01,016
And during that timeit really did seem like
1108
00:50:01,018 --> 00:50:04,024
everything was under control.
1109
00:50:04,026 --> 00:50:07,001
[♪♪]
1110
00:50:10,027 --> 00:50:13,016
HART:
As the years went by,after Wellspring,
1111
00:50:13,018 --> 00:50:16,022
and he continued to bethe top student in his class,
1112
00:50:16,024 --> 00:50:18,007
he continued to havegood friends,
1113
00:50:18,009 --> 00:50:20,015
that there weren'tany big issues.
1114
00:50:20,017 --> 00:50:24,003
I thought that maybehe was cured.
1115
00:50:24,005 --> 00:50:26,006
You know,
maybe he's gonna have a life.
1116
00:50:26,008 --> 00:50:28,029
You know,
I'd go with Evan to visit
1117
00:50:29,001 --> 00:50:30,024
his older brother in college,
1118
00:50:30,026 --> 00:50:33,009
and Evan was, like,looking at college,
1119
00:50:33,011 --> 00:50:35,025
and thinking,"Well, I can do it.
1120
00:50:35,027 --> 00:50:39,010
I can have a life like this."
1121
00:50:41,008 --> 00:50:43,009
You know,as the years proceeded,
1122
00:50:43,011 --> 00:50:47,005
I was not thinking that maybe
the telephone was going to ring,
1123
00:50:47,007 --> 00:50:50,012
I was thinking that, "Hey,
this-- This kid is different
1124
00:50:50,014 --> 00:50:53,008
from my brother.
He's got a shot."
1125
00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:55,015
[♪♪]
1126
00:50:57,013 --> 00:51:02,010
My brother-- There'd neverreally been a diagnosis.
1127
00:51:02,012 --> 00:51:05,021
He was a successful suicide.
1128
00:51:05,023 --> 00:51:09,022
And that was my big fearabout Evan.
1129
00:51:11,019 --> 00:51:15,011
From an early age,both Scott and Evan,
1130
00:51:15,013 --> 00:51:19,020
they were overwhelmedby their emotions.
1131
00:51:19,022 --> 00:51:21,008
With my brother, you know,
1132
00:51:21,010 --> 00:51:24,019
I had learned how to, you know,
be his guide.
1133
00:51:24,021 --> 00:51:26,026
You know,we went to the same school,
1134
00:51:26,028 --> 00:51:28,005
we went to the same college.
1135
00:51:28,007 --> 00:51:29,013
We were very close.
1136
00:51:29,015 --> 00:51:31,024
And I'd beenmy brother's keeper
1137
00:51:31,026 --> 00:51:36,010
up until the point really wherehe started living with Martine,
1138
00:51:36,012 --> 00:51:38,015
his girlfriend.
1139
00:51:39,022 --> 00:51:42,006
WOMAN:
Well, Scott was fun.
1140
00:51:42,008 --> 00:51:44,001
He was brilliant.
1141
00:51:44,003 --> 00:51:47,018
He was very creative,he was a great skier,
1142
00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:50,012
he was an athlete.We went skiing together.
1143
00:51:50,014 --> 00:51:52,006
We really had a lot of fun
1144
00:51:52,008 --> 00:51:55,006
and I was totally seducedwhen I met him.
1145
00:51:55,008 --> 00:51:58,013
I knew he was
taking medication all along
1146
00:51:58,015 --> 00:52:01,025
and I knew he was
seeing a psychiatrist.
1147
00:52:01,027 --> 00:52:04,006
He was getting some help.
1148
00:52:04,008 --> 00:52:07,009
I never really--
I had absolutely no experience
1149
00:52:07,011 --> 00:52:10,027
with depression
before I met Scott.
1150
00:52:10,029 --> 00:52:12,027
So I knew that there wasa problem,
1151
00:52:12,029 --> 00:52:14,024
but I didn't really see it,
1152
00:52:14,026 --> 00:52:17,008
because Scott was alwaysvery optimistic,
1153
00:52:17,010 --> 00:52:18,024
and he was very outgoing,
1154
00:52:18,026 --> 00:52:20,027
but I think I was stillnoticing something
1155
00:52:20,029 --> 00:52:22,023
after the first year.
1156
00:52:22,025 --> 00:52:26,003
He had mood swings,he had ups and downs.
1157
00:52:26,005 --> 00:52:29,017
And the second year trying tokill himself a couple of times
1158
00:52:29,019 --> 00:52:31,000
while he was with me.
1159
00:52:31,002 --> 00:52:32,025
I was supposed to get up
in the morning
1160
00:52:32,027 --> 00:52:35,027
and find him dead next to me.
1161
00:52:35,029 --> 00:52:37,020
And he was amazed
when he woke up,
1162
00:52:37,022 --> 00:52:39,002
I assume he didn't take enough.
1163
00:52:39,004 --> 00:52:41,012
You know, he was trying
to overdose with medication
1164
00:52:41,014 --> 00:52:44,023
and maybe with drugs-- Heroin.
1165
00:52:44,025 --> 00:52:49,001
After his two attempts, he wasreally able to talk about it,
1166
00:52:49,003 --> 00:52:50,009
and communicate about it,
1167
00:52:50,011 --> 00:52:52,003
and I could really understand,
1168
00:52:52,005 --> 00:52:53,017
as much as I could,
1169
00:52:53,019 --> 00:52:56,016
the depth of the desperation.
1170
00:52:56,018 --> 00:52:58,029
He said he was in a hole.
1171
00:52:59,001 --> 00:53:01,013
In a tunnel, in a hole.
There was no way out.
1172
00:53:01,015 --> 00:53:04,024
The pain was...
1173
00:53:04,026 --> 00:53:08,020
so profound, he--
1174
00:53:08,022 --> 00:53:12,005
He could not imagine going on
with it, and living with it,
1175
00:53:12,007 --> 00:53:13,009
even though I was there.
1176
00:53:13,011 --> 00:53:14,024
It did not matter.
1177
00:53:14,026 --> 00:53:17,023
Me and his family were notenough to keep him alive.
1178
00:53:17,025 --> 00:53:22,020
At those momentsof such despair and pain,
1179
00:53:22,022 --> 00:53:25,029
the only way out was to die.
1180
00:53:26,001 --> 00:53:29,000
I don't like to think that maybe
I wasn't really clued in
1181
00:53:29,002 --> 00:53:31,017
to what was going on,
though I probably wasn't,
1182
00:53:31,019 --> 00:53:33,024
because I wasn't willing
to accept the fact
1183
00:53:33,026 --> 00:53:39,022
that, uh, anything so terrifying
to me could be on the way.
1184
00:53:39,024 --> 00:53:43,016
And particularly because Scottdidn't seem like
1185
00:53:43,018 --> 00:53:46,014
an unhappy person.
1186
00:53:46,016 --> 00:53:49,023
All it tells you is that
there is so much more
1187
00:53:49,025 --> 00:53:52,010
to know about people you love
1188
00:53:52,012 --> 00:53:55,029
than you canever really uncover.
1189
00:53:56,001 --> 00:53:58,016
DANA:
What happened that weekend
when Scott died?
1190
00:53:58,018 --> 00:54:00,006
I don't know.
1191
00:54:00,008 --> 00:54:03,015
Nope.
I have not the faintest idea.
1192
00:54:03,017 --> 00:54:05,025
Not the faintest idea.
1193
00:54:05,027 --> 00:54:07,003
DANA:
You found him.
1194
00:54:07,005 --> 00:54:08,019
What, what?
You found him
1195
00:54:08,021 --> 00:54:10,020
"Who found him"?
You found him.
1196
00:54:10,022 --> 00:54:13,009
I found him?
1197
00:54:13,011 --> 00:54:16,029
I don't remember doing that.
No.
1198
00:54:17,001 --> 00:54:21,019
What's more, I think I can
get along without memory.
1199
00:54:21,021 --> 00:54:24,013
I don't remember at all.
1200
00:54:24,015 --> 00:54:26,015
[♪♪]
1201
00:54:26,017 --> 00:54:28,020
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
1202
00:54:33,027 --> 00:54:37,000
MARTINE:
I think it was a Saturday.
1203
00:54:37,002 --> 00:54:39,027
We came for the weekendup here.
1204
00:54:39,029 --> 00:54:41,016
Fourth of July weekend.
1205
00:54:41,018 --> 00:54:43,024
Scott was totally normal.
1206
00:54:43,026 --> 00:54:47,000
Fun, nice.
1207
00:54:47,002 --> 00:54:50,006
Suddenly, we-- You know,
it was a beautiful afternoon,
1208
00:54:50,008 --> 00:54:53,017
and we said, "Where is Scott?"
1209
00:54:54,020 --> 00:54:57,022
Scott was not around.
1210
00:54:57,024 --> 00:55:00,029
I knew something was wrong.
1211
00:55:06,016 --> 00:55:09,019
Because I knewthat the caretaker had guns.
1212
00:55:09,021 --> 00:55:11,012
And Scott knew that he had guns.
1213
00:55:11,014 --> 00:55:16,003
So I went there and Beati wentin another direction.
1214
00:55:16,005 --> 00:55:18,012
I couldn't get inside the housebecause it was locked.
1215
00:55:18,014 --> 00:55:19,024
I don't exactly remember,
1216
00:55:19,026 --> 00:55:22,003
but I knew he didn't havethe guns.
1217
00:55:22,005 --> 00:55:23,020
When I came back
1218
00:55:23,022 --> 00:55:27,010
I saw Beati came back,
1219
00:55:27,012 --> 00:55:29,016
and her lipstick was smeared
around her mouth,
1220
00:55:29,018 --> 00:55:32,013
and she said
"I just found Scott."
1221
00:55:32,015 --> 00:55:35,021
And she found him in the jeep--In the car--
1222
00:55:35,023 --> 00:55:37,003
near the carriage house.
1223
00:55:37,005 --> 00:55:39,009
And what he had done
1224
00:55:39,011 --> 00:55:43,016
was take the hosefrom the vacuum cleaner,
1225
00:55:43,018 --> 00:55:46,006
and put the hosefrom the exhaust pipe
1226
00:55:46,008 --> 00:55:48,029
inside the car.
1227
00:55:53,014 --> 00:55:56,003
[LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN'S
"MOONLIGHT SONATA" PLAYING]
1228
00:56:02,017 --> 00:56:04,000
HART:
When my brother died,
1229
00:56:04,002 --> 00:56:07,025
I decided to make a film.
1230
00:56:11,014 --> 00:56:14,010
It was too painful for me to,like,
1231
00:56:14,012 --> 00:56:16,004
really deal with his suicide,
1232
00:56:16,006 --> 00:56:20,017
So I made the film about a, uh,
1233
00:56:20,019 --> 00:56:23,008
sculptor friend of my mother'swho came from Spain
1234
00:56:23,010 --> 00:56:26,014
to make a sculpturefor the grave.
1235
00:56:29,023 --> 00:56:33,021
I documented the processof making the sculpture.
1236
00:56:33,023 --> 00:56:36,001
And the instillation.
1237
00:56:41,001 --> 00:56:44,026
I thought that maybe inthe course of making the film
1238
00:56:44,028 --> 00:56:48,024
I could find some meaningabout my brother's suicide.
1239
00:57:01,009 --> 00:57:03,009
MARTINE:
It took me about seven,eight years
1240
00:57:03,011 --> 00:57:06,009
to come back to normal.
1241
00:57:06,011 --> 00:57:09,023
I was mutilated when he died.I was mutilated.
1242
00:57:09,025 --> 00:57:12,008
Half of me was dead.
1243
00:57:12,010 --> 00:57:15,026
Completely dead.
1244
00:57:32,011 --> 00:57:35,020
HART:
My parents were shattered.
1245
00:57:35,022 --> 00:57:39,006
It was like broken glass.Shattered.
1246
00:57:47,029 --> 00:57:50,020
HART:
What-- What did happen to him?
1247
00:57:50,022 --> 00:57:55,019
Well,
he obviously committed suicide.
1248
00:57:55,021 --> 00:57:58,000
HART:
Why do you think he did it?
1249
00:57:58,002 --> 00:57:59,010
"Why did he do it?"
1250
00:57:59,012 --> 00:58:01,010
Well, he was...
1251
00:58:01,012 --> 00:58:05,017
in a terrible state
of depression.
1252
00:58:05,019 --> 00:58:08,024
What brought on the depression,
I don't know.
1253
00:58:13,024 --> 00:58:17,023
I don't know. I don't know.
1254
00:58:25,028 --> 00:58:28,011
I can't tell you.
1255
00:58:35,010 --> 00:58:37,012
I can't tell you.
1256
00:58:37,014 --> 00:58:40,009
I can't tell you.
The words don't exist
1257
00:58:40,011 --> 00:58:44,011
to tell another person
1258
00:58:44,013 --> 00:58:47,017
how destroyed
1259
00:58:47,019 --> 00:58:49,021
part of you has been.
1260
00:58:49,023 --> 00:58:51,007
They just don't exist.
1261
00:58:51,009 --> 00:58:53,012
I can't tell you.
But I can tell you
1262
00:58:53,014 --> 00:58:56,005
that it's something
you never recover from.
1263
00:58:57,017 --> 00:59:01,013
What is trueis that life goes on,
1264
00:59:01,015 --> 00:59:03,008
but not the wayyou wanted it to,
1265
00:59:03,010 --> 00:59:06,014
and not the wayyou planned for it to.
1266
00:59:06,016 --> 00:59:09,005
But you don't recover.
1267
00:59:09,007 --> 00:59:11,003
I don't think.
1268
00:59:11,005 --> 00:59:13,010
[♪♪]
1269
00:59:18,005 --> 00:59:20,008
[BIRD CAWING]
1270
00:59:29,010 --> 00:59:31,015
HART:
I thought if Evanwas going to kill himself,
1271
00:59:31,017 --> 00:59:34,024
it'd be similar to myexperience with my brother.
1272
00:59:34,026 --> 00:59:38,017
It was like a slow decline.
1273
00:59:38,019 --> 00:59:42,020
But Evan seemed to beactually doing pretty well.
1274
00:59:42,022 --> 00:59:45,015
What can I get you?
BOY: I want a beer.
1275
00:59:45,017 --> 00:59:48,002
Light?
Yeah.
1276
00:59:48,004 --> 00:59:50,012
[BOY BELCHES]
1277
00:59:50,014 --> 00:59:51,028
Ha-ha.
1278
00:59:53,015 --> 00:59:54,025
So why are you
out so late?
1279
00:59:54,027 --> 00:59:57,008
Well, I've just seen
a Kiss concert, man.
1280
00:59:57,010 --> 00:59:59,024
Kiss rules!
Kiss rocks!
1281
00:59:59,026 --> 01:00:02,010
[BOTH YELLING INDISTINCTLY]
1282
01:00:02,012 --> 01:00:04,018
HART:
That's good,
now watch him leave.
1283
01:00:04,020 --> 01:00:06,020
Hey, hey, hey.
1284
01:00:06,022 --> 01:00:08,005
HART:
He didn't pay.
1285
01:00:08,007 --> 01:00:11,024
Yeah. I just went like, "Hey!"
1286
01:00:11,026 --> 01:00:13,012
HART:
Run, run, Mike.
1287
01:00:13,014 --> 01:00:15,008
Run, Evan.
1288
01:00:15,010 --> 01:00:17,014
You know, I mean,
Evan was never, you know,
1289
01:00:17,016 --> 01:00:21,011
like an over-the-top,
effervescent, happy kid.
1290
01:00:21,013 --> 01:00:24,019
But from all the-- The markers:
1291
01:00:24,021 --> 01:00:27,004
Is he getting into trouble? No.
1292
01:00:27,006 --> 01:00:28,022
Not at all.
1293
01:00:28,024 --> 01:00:30,017
Can you do the fish?
1294
01:00:30,019 --> 01:00:32,019
The fish!
Like this.
1295
01:00:32,021 --> 01:00:35,021
I can do the snake.
Like that.
1296
01:00:35,023 --> 01:00:37,013
I can do the seashell.
1297
01:00:37,015 --> 01:00:39,000
HART:
Have we seen the police?
1298
01:00:39,002 --> 01:00:40,019
And we certainlydid see the police
1299
01:00:40,021 --> 01:00:43,018
for a number of occasionsbefore Wellspring.
1300
01:00:43,020 --> 01:00:44,029
No police.
1301
01:00:45,001 --> 01:00:47,004
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
1302
01:00:48,017 --> 01:00:50,012
Take it with me.
1303
01:00:50,014 --> 01:00:54,002
DANA:
Evan was doing so well.It was like a miracle.
1304
01:00:54,004 --> 01:00:57,015
We couldn't believe it.You just couldn't believe it.
1305
01:00:59,010 --> 01:01:02,008
Is this the same kid? I mean,here he is, and he's growing,
1306
01:01:02,010 --> 01:01:05,006
and he's popular, and he hashis lovely friends,
1307
01:01:05,008 --> 01:01:07,016
and they have a wonderful time.
1308
01:01:07,018 --> 01:01:09,003
Suddenly there's hair there
1309
01:01:09,005 --> 01:01:11,019
and his jaw gets firmerand he's taller than I am.
1310
01:01:11,021 --> 01:01:14,021
And he's a man.He's a young man.
1311
01:01:14,023 --> 01:01:16,027
Very handsome,very popular with the girls.
1312
01:01:16,029 --> 01:01:19,013
But not reallyall that interested in them.
1313
01:01:19,015 --> 01:01:21,017
His voice went from
like this to like this.
1314
01:01:21,019 --> 01:01:23,024
Like, you're--
You're in the shot.
1315
01:01:23,026 --> 01:01:25,002
Like--
1316
01:01:25,004 --> 01:01:26,012
[ALL LAUGHING]
1317
01:01:29,008 --> 01:01:31,010
Like,
let's worry about the door shot,
1318
01:01:31,012 --> 01:01:32,029
let's do that
when I'm not filming.
1319
01:01:33,001 --> 01:01:34,024
BOY:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, do the shot.
1320
01:01:34,026 --> 01:01:37,018
You know, like after he comes in
you can do that--
1321
01:01:37,020 --> 01:01:38,025
BOY:
All right.
1322
01:01:38,027 --> 01:01:40,015
DANA:
He really hated being sick.
1323
01:01:40,017 --> 01:01:43,010
GIRL:
We went-- We were like--
Did you hear us yelling outside?
1324
01:01:43,012 --> 01:01:44,022
We were like, "Evan!"
1325
01:01:44,024 --> 01:01:46,011
Three E, 3W, whatever.
1326
01:01:46,013 --> 01:01:47,019
He didn't wanna be different.
1327
01:01:47,021 --> 01:01:48,025
What teenage boy does?
1328
01:01:48,027 --> 01:01:50,010
Yeah,
so I'll see you guys later.
1329
01:01:50,012 --> 01:01:52,010
In, like, half an hour.
I just have to wait for--
1330
01:01:52,012 --> 01:01:54,008
Okay, it's just Angela's
around the corner.
1331
01:01:54,010 --> 01:01:55,011
All right.
Bye.
1332
01:01:55,013 --> 01:01:57,005
I'll see you soon.
Bye!
1333
01:01:57,007 --> 01:01:59,010
[CHATTER]
1334
01:02:00,008 --> 01:02:02,019
GIRL:
Oh, my gosh, what?
1335
01:02:04,024 --> 01:02:06,023
Oh, are we talking
about this again?
1336
01:02:10,006 --> 01:02:12,015
Are you better now? Yay.
1337
01:02:12,017 --> 01:02:14,002
High five.
1338
01:02:14,004 --> 01:02:16,028
NICHOLAS:
A lot of the time he seemedreally out of it to me.
1339
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,017
And I really attributed that
to his drugs.
1340
01:02:20,019 --> 01:02:23,025
'Cause I remember going througha turnstile door with him
1341
01:02:23,027 --> 01:02:26,015
and him sort of juststopping in the middle,
1342
01:02:26,017 --> 01:02:28,001
or not really paying attention
1343
01:02:28,003 --> 01:02:29,021
to what was going onaround him,
1344
01:02:29,023 --> 01:02:32,006
and I'd stop and say"What is it with this kid?"
1345
01:02:32,008 --> 01:02:34,019
And I'd say, "Oh, well,
he's taking lithium."
1346
01:02:34,021 --> 01:02:36,020
DANA:
We had been talking for a while
1347
01:02:36,022 --> 01:02:38,022
about tryingwithout the medication,
1348
01:02:38,024 --> 01:02:40,023
'cause it made him tired,it made his mouth dry,
1349
01:02:40,025 --> 01:02:43,007
it was really somethinghe didn't wanna do.
1350
01:02:43,009 --> 01:02:45,024
So we said "Okay.
1351
01:02:45,026 --> 01:02:49,011
You know, you--
You really wanna try this?"
1352
01:02:49,013 --> 01:02:50,023
And he really did.
1353
01:02:50,025 --> 01:02:53,004
And the doctor said, "Okay."
1354
01:02:53,006 --> 01:02:56,027
So he gradually went downin the lithium dose
1355
01:02:56,029 --> 01:02:59,018
over a courseof four to six weeks.
1356
01:02:59,020 --> 01:03:03,001
LADD:
"March 30th, 2005.
1357
01:03:03,003 --> 01:03:05,003
"Lithium 0.56.
1358
01:03:05,005 --> 01:03:07,013
"Now sub therapeutic.
1359
01:03:07,015 --> 01:03:10,026
"Was 1200 milligrams, didn't
take meds for a few days,
1360
01:03:10,028 --> 01:03:12,017
"became quote 'more talkative.'
1361
01:03:12,019 --> 01:03:16,011
"At first,
decreased lithium was difficult,
1362
01:03:16,013 --> 01:03:18,010
"now fine.
1363
01:03:18,012 --> 01:03:21,023
He feels better on lower dose."
1364
01:03:21,025 --> 01:03:23,024
After awhile
I wasn't that conv--
1365
01:03:23,026 --> 01:03:25,020
You know, that he really was--
1366
01:03:25,022 --> 01:03:27,027
I mean, I knew he was bipolar,
but--
1367
01:03:27,029 --> 01:03:30,015
He seemed so fine.
1368
01:03:30,017 --> 01:03:33,014
Also, I remember we talked
to him head on,
1369
01:03:33,016 --> 01:03:36,022
"Do you have thoughts
of suicide?
1370
01:03:36,024 --> 01:03:39,005
Do you wanna kill yourself?
Do you wanna harm yourself?"
1371
01:03:39,007 --> 01:03:41,021
And he said no, you know.
1372
01:03:41,023 --> 01:03:43,019
"I don't."
1373
01:03:43,021 --> 01:03:44,026
[♪♪]
1374
01:03:47,002 --> 01:03:50,011
WOMAN:
Kids know that if they saycertain things,
1375
01:03:50,013 --> 01:03:53,017
or if they do certain things,they're gonna be stopped.
1376
01:03:53,019 --> 01:03:55,011
You know.Especially if they have parents
1377
01:03:55,013 --> 01:03:58,002
who are attentiveto what's going on with them.
1378
01:03:58,004 --> 01:04:01,019
So if a kid reallydoesn't wanna be stopped,
1379
01:04:01,021 --> 01:04:04,006
he's not gonna say anything.
1380
01:04:04,008 --> 01:04:06,021
Evan may have gotten to
the point where he got really--
1381
01:04:06,023 --> 01:04:09,017
Just better
at masking it externally.
1382
01:04:09,019 --> 01:04:13,012
But internally,it's a lot of suffering,
1383
01:04:13,014 --> 01:04:15,005
and this was justthe beginning, I mean,
1384
01:04:15,007 --> 01:04:17,006
it started when he wasmuch younger,
1385
01:04:17,008 --> 01:04:20,013
and it wasn't going away.
1386
01:04:20,015 --> 01:04:23,019
HART:
We went on vacationfor two weeks in Nantucket.
1387
01:04:23,021 --> 01:04:26,023
And he seemed depressed.He seemed subdued.
1388
01:04:26,025 --> 01:04:28,010
Didn't seem too happy.
1389
01:04:28,012 --> 01:04:31,008
He wasn't doing good.
1390
01:04:31,010 --> 01:04:33,002
DANA:
Then school started.
1391
01:04:33,004 --> 01:04:36,005
He's sullen, he's depressed.
1392
01:04:36,007 --> 01:04:38,024
As the weeks unfoldedin September,
1393
01:04:38,026 --> 01:04:41,000
he started getting more anxiousabout his homework.
1394
01:04:41,002 --> 01:04:43,029
And at one point, he came to meand he said very seriously,
1395
01:04:44,001 --> 01:04:45,022
"Mom, I need your help.
1396
01:04:45,024 --> 01:04:48,024
I need you to stay after me."
1397
01:04:48,026 --> 01:04:51,018
HART:
We had contactedhis psychiatrist
1398
01:04:51,020 --> 01:04:54,021
and tried to make a meetingas soon as possible
1399
01:04:54,023 --> 01:04:57,020
to increase his doseof lithium.
1400
01:04:57,022 --> 01:04:59,028
DANA:
We said, "Let's get him backon the lithium,
1401
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,019
this experiment didn't work."
1402
01:05:01,021 --> 01:05:03,017
So we made an appointmentwith the doctor
1403
01:05:03,019 --> 01:05:07,008
for the following Tuesday.October 4th.
1404
01:05:07,010 --> 01:05:09,015
[♪♪]
1405
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,005
ADAM:
We hung out with himthat Friday night.
1406
01:05:14,007 --> 01:05:17,021
We went to another teen club,me and Nick.
1407
01:05:17,023 --> 01:05:21,001
We invited Evan to go,
but he just didn't want to.
1408
01:05:21,003 --> 01:05:23,004
I mean, it might've been
his curfew or whatever,
1409
01:05:23,006 --> 01:05:24,015
he just didn't wanna go.
1410
01:05:24,017 --> 01:05:26,026
And we didn't think it was
that big of a deal.
1411
01:05:26,028 --> 01:05:28,006
We were just like,
"Whatever,
1412
01:05:28,008 --> 01:05:30,026
he wants to go home and chill,
so..."
1413
01:05:30,028 --> 01:05:33,003
There was nothing
really beforehand
1414
01:05:33,005 --> 01:05:34,022
that we could've seen.
1415
01:05:34,024 --> 01:05:37,004
I think if, like,
1416
01:05:37,006 --> 01:05:39,024
if someone is that sure
1417
01:05:39,026 --> 01:05:41,015
that they wanna do that
to themselves,
1418
01:05:41,017 --> 01:05:44,013
they're gonna hide it
from someone, you know.
1419
01:05:47,025 --> 01:05:50,025
NICHOLAS:
The night he diedI came over for dinner.
1420
01:05:50,027 --> 01:05:53,021
It was a Sunday evening.
1421
01:05:53,023 --> 01:05:54,029
We were all eating together,
1422
01:05:55,001 --> 01:05:59,013
and I know Evan had some
homework that was unfinished,
1423
01:05:59,015 --> 01:06:02,018
and he was...
1424
01:06:02,020 --> 01:06:04,007
being a little obnoxious
1425
01:06:04,009 --> 01:06:05,027
about not wanting
to do his homework,
1426
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:08,013
and started putting his feet
on the table,
1427
01:06:08,015 --> 01:06:12,004
and, you know, his mom wasnagging him about his homework.
1428
01:06:12,006 --> 01:06:14,021
And they had a tiff.
1429
01:06:14,023 --> 01:06:16,017
And he was mad.
1430
01:06:16,019 --> 01:06:19,005
The fight was very intense.
1431
01:06:19,007 --> 01:06:20,016
As it often was.
1432
01:06:20,018 --> 01:06:24,010
And, um, you know,
really just deeply intense.
1433
01:06:24,012 --> 01:06:26,016
I was doing the dishes,and I was hot.
1434
01:06:26,018 --> 01:06:28,029
You know. I was tired of this.
1435
01:06:29,001 --> 01:06:32,023
And he goes up the stairs
and he said, "Mom, I hate you."
1436
01:06:32,025 --> 01:06:35,023
HART:
And he shuts the door.And he locks it.
1437
01:06:35,025 --> 01:06:39,029
NICHOLAS:
Leaving that night,I didn't think anything of it.
1438
01:06:40,001 --> 01:06:43,029
He wasn't behaving in any way
that would make me think,
1439
01:06:44,001 --> 01:06:47,010
"This child is gonna
end his life tonight."
1440
01:06:47,012 --> 01:06:50,024
Not in a million,
million, million years.
1441
01:06:50,026 --> 01:06:53,023
I mean, on my good days
1442
01:06:53,025 --> 01:06:56,018
I've acted worse
than him at dinner.
1443
01:06:56,020 --> 01:06:58,020
By this time it's around 10:00,
1444
01:06:58,022 --> 01:07:02,027
and I went into our bedroom
with Mikey,
1445
01:07:02,029 --> 01:07:04,014
and we're both reading.
1446
01:07:04,016 --> 01:07:06,021
I was reading for a little bit,
1447
01:07:06,023 --> 01:07:09,020
and I go to check in on Evan.
1448
01:07:09,022 --> 01:07:10,028
And he's unlocked the door.
1449
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,019
I go in he's sittingin his underwear
1450
01:07:13,021 --> 01:07:16,013
on his bed with his computer
1451
01:07:16,015 --> 01:07:18,012
And, you know,
I came over and I said,
1452
01:07:18,014 --> 01:07:22,019
"Well, how you doing?
What's-- What's happening?"
1453
01:07:22,021 --> 01:07:25,004
And he said, "I'm fine, Dad.
1454
01:07:25,006 --> 01:07:27,015
I'm doing my homework."
1455
01:07:27,017 --> 01:07:29,029
His computer,it looked as though he was
1456
01:07:30,001 --> 01:07:31,023
doing his homework,
1457
01:07:31,025 --> 01:07:34,022
so I go back to read with Mikey
1458
01:07:34,024 --> 01:07:39,003
for another five minutes,
and, uh,
1459
01:07:39,005 --> 01:07:41,004
you know, it's Mikey's bedtime.
1460
01:07:41,006 --> 01:07:43,011
So I bring Mikey into the room
1461
01:07:43,013 --> 01:07:47,006
and Evan's not there.
1462
01:07:47,008 --> 01:07:49,002
[♪♪]
1463
01:07:49,004 --> 01:07:52,024
I immediately thought thathe had jumped out the window.
1464
01:07:54,013 --> 01:07:58,010
But it was an airshaft so youcouldn't really see anything.
1465
01:08:00,013 --> 01:08:03,025
Mikey shows up with this
little penlight
1466
01:08:03,027 --> 01:08:05,016
and I shine it down the shaft,
1467
01:08:05,018 --> 01:08:08,024
and I think I see something
but it's hard to tell.
1468
01:08:08,026 --> 01:08:11,014
Uh, and I'm starting to,
you know,
1469
01:08:11,016 --> 01:08:13,028
feel pretty concerned
at this point,
1470
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,004
and I run downstairs
to find the super,
1471
01:08:17,006 --> 01:08:20,008
who had access to the airshaft.
1472
01:08:20,010 --> 01:08:23,025
I guess I was downstairs and,
uh,
1473
01:08:23,027 --> 01:08:27,018
about to recline and watch TV
1474
01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:30,013
and I was, uh,
half asleep, I guess.
1475
01:08:30,015 --> 01:08:33,005
And nothing unusual,
1476
01:08:33,007 --> 01:08:35,021
I just heard a noise.
1477
01:08:35,023 --> 01:08:37,029
And I thought nothing of it.
1478
01:08:38,001 --> 01:08:41,025
I thought maybe the girl
upstairs dropped something.
1479
01:08:41,027 --> 01:08:43,019
Nothing. Nothing.
1480
01:08:43,021 --> 01:08:47,009
And I guess, I don't know
how many minutes later,
1481
01:08:47,011 --> 01:08:50,024
uh, somebody came banging on--
Was banging on my door.
1482
01:08:50,026 --> 01:08:53,013
We were with Roger,
we had the light.
1483
01:08:53,015 --> 01:08:56,018
I had, um,
a cell phone and keys.
1484
01:08:56,020 --> 01:08:59,013
And, uh, we went through this
labyrinth, some kind of way.
1485
01:08:59,015 --> 01:09:02,024
And Hart got there first.
And, um, and Evan was there.
1486
01:09:02,026 --> 01:09:06,015
And, um, he was on his back,
1487
01:09:06,017 --> 01:09:07,027
and there was blood.
1488
01:09:07,029 --> 01:09:10,021
I thought he might be alive.
1489
01:09:10,023 --> 01:09:15,024
But I-- I felt his pulse,
and he wasn't.
1490
01:09:21,027 --> 01:09:23,029
So it got pretty chaotic.
1491
01:09:24,001 --> 01:09:25,016
I was screaming, "Evan, Evan,
1492
01:09:25,018 --> 01:09:27,026
Evan, Evan, Evan, Evan!"
1493
01:09:27,028 --> 01:09:31,000
You know,
"Evan." I just-- "Please."
1494
01:09:31,002 --> 01:09:33,014
And I went--
And Hart was in front of me,
1495
01:09:33,016 --> 01:09:37,005
and I said, "Get out of the way,
I wanna give him mouth-to-mouth,
1496
01:09:37,007 --> 01:09:39,018
I wanna-- Move out of the way."
1497
01:09:39,020 --> 01:09:42,011
And he said, "Dana, just go--
1498
01:09:42,013 --> 01:09:45,001
The paramedics are coming, go
upstairs, take care of Michael,
1499
01:09:45,003 --> 01:09:47,012
take care of-- It's okay.
And he was very calm.
1500
01:09:47,014 --> 01:09:49,011
I called Nick
1501
01:09:49,013 --> 01:09:52,028
to come and look after
1502
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,024
Mikey and Dana,
1503
01:09:54,026 --> 01:09:59,000
'cause I had to go to
the hospital with-- With Evan.
1504
01:09:59,002 --> 01:10:00,010
I was there comforting Michael,
1505
01:10:00,012 --> 01:10:02,000
and we were praying
and I thought
1506
01:10:02,002 --> 01:10:03,016
that maybe he'd still live,
1507
01:10:03,018 --> 01:10:06,021
maybe he's just broken
some bones, maybe he'll live.
1508
01:10:06,023 --> 01:10:07,029
And, um, at some point,
1509
01:10:08,001 --> 01:10:09,014
I don't know when,
but Nick showed up.
1510
01:10:09,016 --> 01:10:12,003
NICHOLAS:
We pulled upin front of the house,
1511
01:10:12,005 --> 01:10:13,016
there were police cars outside,
1512
01:10:13,018 --> 01:10:16,005
it was, like, "This isfucking real. This is real."
1513
01:10:16,007 --> 01:10:18,012
And I walked into the apartment,
1514
01:10:18,014 --> 01:10:22,006
and there were
police officers downstairs.
1515
01:10:22,008 --> 01:10:23,025
You know, they looked at me
1516
01:10:23,027 --> 01:10:26,019
and started approaching me tosay, you know, "Who are you?"
1517
01:10:26,021 --> 01:10:30,005
And I pushed them out of the way
and just ran to Dana.
1518
01:10:30,007 --> 01:10:32,009
And Michael was so amazing,
'cause he kept saying,
1519
01:10:32,011 --> 01:10:34,027
"Mom, he's gonna be okay,
Mom, he's gonna be okay.
1520
01:10:34,029 --> 01:10:37,019
Mom, he's gonna be okay,
Mom, he's gonna be okay."
1521
01:10:37,021 --> 01:10:40,001
And we're just holding each
other, and then, you know,
1522
01:10:40,003 --> 01:10:42,026
then Hart called
and I just knew immediately--
1523
01:10:42,028 --> 01:10:45,007
Just knew immediately
what happened, that he was dead.
1524
01:10:45,009 --> 01:10:47,021
I just couldn't believe it.
1525
01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:52,016
So then, um, Jean drove me
to the hospital,
1526
01:10:52,018 --> 01:10:55,024
and he was at St. Vincent's,
where he had been before,
1527
01:10:55,026 --> 01:10:59,010
and I was taken
into the room where he was,
1528
01:10:59,012 --> 01:11:01,029
on the stretcher, and, um--
1529
01:11:07,024 --> 01:11:11,001
Um, you know, he wasn't cold,
and he had his, um,
1530
01:11:11,003 --> 01:11:12,011
he had his boxer shorts on.
1531
01:11:12,013 --> 01:11:15,003
I took the sheet down like this,
I held him,
1532
01:11:15,005 --> 01:11:18,004
and, um, I closed his eyes.
1533
01:11:18,006 --> 01:11:20,009
And that was it.
1534
01:11:23,008 --> 01:11:25,020
And then...
1535
01:11:25,022 --> 01:11:29,000
I got a call in the car
1536
01:11:29,002 --> 01:11:31,029
from Nick,
1537
01:11:32,001 --> 01:11:35,009
and he said, "I found his note.
1538
01:11:35,011 --> 01:11:36,013
I found his note."
1539
01:11:36,015 --> 01:11:38,020
[♪♪]
1540
01:11:40,005 --> 01:11:43,016
NICHOLAS:
I remember the officersasking me
1541
01:11:43,018 --> 01:11:45,012
whether there wasa suicide note,
1542
01:11:45,014 --> 01:11:48,006
and I hadn't eventhought about that,
1543
01:11:48,008 --> 01:11:51,002
and we looked around his room,
1544
01:11:51,004 --> 01:11:53,025
and there was nothing, and thenhe pointed to the computer,
1545
01:11:53,027 --> 01:11:57,012
and opened it,touched the screen,
1546
01:11:57,014 --> 01:12:00,003
and, sure enough,
1547
01:12:00,005 --> 01:12:03,008
a letter came up.
1548
01:12:03,010 --> 01:12:05,014
[♪♪]
1549
01:13:15,002 --> 01:13:16,004
To be honest,
1550
01:13:16,006 --> 01:13:20,003
the gist of the letter was...
1551
01:13:20,005 --> 01:13:23,004
what every fucking 15-year-old
1552
01:13:23,006 --> 01:13:25,000
thinks about themself.
1553
01:13:25,002 --> 01:13:27,025
That "I'm not good enough,
1554
01:13:27,027 --> 01:13:30,011
"no one likes me,
1555
01:13:30,013 --> 01:13:32,028
things won't get better."
1556
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,004
The difference
is Evan felt that
1557
01:13:36,006 --> 01:13:38,026
20,000 times stronger
1558
01:13:38,028 --> 01:13:41,008
than any normal 15-year-old,
1559
01:13:41,010 --> 01:13:44,026
and he believed more strongly
1560
01:13:44,028 --> 01:13:46,013
that things wouldn't get better
1561
01:13:46,015 --> 01:13:48,011
and that there was no future,
1562
01:13:48,013 --> 01:13:53,002
and living was too painful,
1563
01:13:53,004 --> 01:13:56,029
too difficult, and...
1564
01:13:57,001 --> 01:14:00,012
death was his only answer.
1565
01:14:00,014 --> 01:14:03,004
But it was, I mean, verbatim--
1566
01:14:03,006 --> 01:14:07,004
I could've checked off
that list and, you know,
1567
01:14:07,006 --> 01:14:11,010
if he had showed me that note
before he made his decision,
1568
01:14:11,012 --> 01:14:13,008
I could've gone through it
with him and said,
1569
01:14:13,010 --> 01:14:16,013
"Thought that, thought that,
thought that.
1570
01:14:16,015 --> 01:14:19,001
"I realized they're all
untrue for me,
1571
01:14:19,003 --> 01:14:23,000
"they're definitely
all untrue for you.
1572
01:14:23,002 --> 01:14:25,024
"You know, and some of
the qualities about yourself
1573
01:14:25,026 --> 01:14:27,017
"that make you feel
different right now,
1574
01:14:27,019 --> 01:14:29,014
"you're gonna learn
in five years
1575
01:14:29,016 --> 01:14:31,002
"that those are your
best qualities,
1576
01:14:31,004 --> 01:14:34,014
"and those are what
set you apart from people
1577
01:14:34,016 --> 01:14:35,028
"and make you interesting
1578
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,023
and attract others to you."
1579
01:14:39,025 --> 01:14:43,006
But, you know,
1580
01:14:43,008 --> 01:14:46,022
that opportunity did not arise.
1581
01:14:55,027 --> 01:14:58,013
So,
what do you make of that?
1582
01:15:00,025 --> 01:15:02,006
I think
1583
01:15:02,008 --> 01:15:05,025
that he foresaw--
1584
01:15:05,027 --> 01:15:07,014
He must have been getting
1585
01:15:07,016 --> 01:15:11,000
a glimpse of adult life,
1586
01:15:11,002 --> 01:15:13,006
and that he foresaw
1587
01:15:13,008 --> 01:15:16,006
that he was not going to make it
1588
01:15:16,008 --> 01:15:18,011
in the way that he
wanted to make it.
1589
01:15:19,012 --> 01:15:22,008
You know, in psychiatry,
1590
01:15:22,010 --> 01:15:24,001
bipolar is our cancer.
1591
01:15:24,003 --> 01:15:25,028
It kills people.
1592
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,029
You do everything you can,
and some people can be saved,
1593
01:15:29,001 --> 01:15:30,022
and probably we could've saved--
1594
01:15:30,024 --> 01:15:34,021
Definitely we could've
saved him for a while,
1595
01:15:34,023 --> 01:15:37,005
but he would have gone
off his medication,
1596
01:15:37,007 --> 01:15:40,017
They-- All these kids do,
they all go off them.
1597
01:15:40,019 --> 01:15:43,020
And when he went off,
he just went so fast.
1598
01:15:43,022 --> 01:15:45,018
Maybe his illness was changing
1599
01:15:45,020 --> 01:15:48,019
into the type where people
really do get crazy.
1600
01:15:48,021 --> 01:15:50,003
He never talked
about any of this?
1601
01:15:50,005 --> 01:15:51,004
Any of that.
No.
1602
01:15:51,006 --> 01:15:53,000
No? He never talked--?
Any of that.
1603
01:15:53,002 --> 01:15:55,014
He denied feeling it, he never
talked about any of this.
1604
01:15:55,016 --> 01:15:59,015
Never did he say anything like
he didn't trust his friends?
1605
01:15:59,017 --> 01:16:01,012
But this is crazy talk.
That's crazy talk.
1606
01:16:01,014 --> 01:16:03,005
HART: I mean, you know...
Crazy talk,
1607
01:16:03,007 --> 01:16:04,011
but it's done so sanely.
1608
01:16:04,013 --> 01:16:06,029
Numbered, and so precise.
1609
01:16:07,001 --> 01:16:10,021
That's what makes me so mad
with all the portrayals of, uh,
1610
01:16:10,023 --> 01:16:14,013
mental illness that you see
on TV and movies,
1611
01:16:14,015 --> 01:16:18,015
it's like raving, crazy,
foaming at the mouth,
1612
01:16:18,017 --> 01:16:21,024
not, you know,
"sanely" sitting there--
1613
01:16:21,026 --> 01:16:26,008
Hyper-sanely-- typing this,
you know, horrible thing out.
1614
01:16:26,010 --> 01:16:27,020
Ch, ch, ch, ch, ch.
1615
01:16:27,022 --> 01:16:31,009
Just with thought, already
knowing he was gonna do it.
1616
01:16:31,011 --> 01:16:33,028
You know, that's insanity.
1617
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,004
[♪♪]
1618
01:16:48,026 --> 01:16:50,010
[THUNDER CRASHES]
1619
01:17:34,025 --> 01:17:38,019
On behalf of the congregation
of this church
1620
01:17:38,021 --> 01:17:40,010
I would like to welcome
all of you
1621
01:17:40,012 --> 01:17:44,008
in mourning the passing
of Evan today.
1622
01:17:44,010 --> 01:17:46,019
This is a place...
1623
01:17:46,021 --> 01:17:48,018
MARTINE:
When I went to Evan's funeral,
1624
01:17:48,020 --> 01:17:53,001
I felt that I was going throughthe same thing again,
1625
01:17:53,003 --> 01:17:55,013
it was like a repeat.It was the same church,
1626
01:17:55,015 --> 01:17:57,029
it was the same family.
1627
01:17:58,001 --> 01:18:02,011
It was that little boy,35 years later.
1628
01:18:02,013 --> 01:18:04,013
And Beati was with me.
1629
01:18:04,015 --> 01:18:08,018
Scott's mother--
And Evan's grandmother,
1630
01:18:08,020 --> 01:18:10,025
and Hart's mother--
was sitting next to me
1631
01:18:10,027 --> 01:18:13,005
and hold-- Hanging onto me,
1632
01:18:13,007 --> 01:18:15,011
and she would say
during the ceremony,
1633
01:18:15,013 --> 01:18:18,005
she would say,
"Martine, why did Scott die?
1634
01:18:18,007 --> 01:18:19,027
Why did Scott kill himself?"
1635
01:18:19,029 --> 01:18:22,029
And, you know,she knew that she had a son
1636
01:18:23,001 --> 01:18:24,027
who committed suicide,
1637
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,029
and who died,but she could not remember.
1638
01:18:29,001 --> 01:18:31,004
[CONGREGATION PRAYING]
1639
01:18:35,029 --> 01:18:38,013
I was briefly
trying to explain to her
1640
01:18:38,015 --> 01:18:41,017
that it was the same disease,
1641
01:18:41,019 --> 01:18:44,023
that he died for the same
reasons Evan died.
1642
01:18:44,025 --> 01:18:47,028
I feel relieved to know
that Evan has found peace,
1643
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,021
even if it means
that we must take on pain.
1644
01:18:50,023 --> 01:18:52,029
Through his memory we realize
1645
01:18:53,001 --> 01:18:56,014
the extreme precariousness
and preciousness of life.
1646
01:18:56,016 --> 01:18:59,012
We must cherish and savor
the lives we have,
1647
01:18:59,014 --> 01:19:01,011
the relationships we enjoy,
1648
01:19:01,013 --> 01:19:05,024
as much as we can
for as long as we can.
1649
01:19:05,026 --> 01:19:07,029
[SOFT MUSIC PLAYING]
1650
01:19:12,001 --> 01:19:15,009
♪ May God bless
And keep you always ♪
1651
01:19:15,011 --> 01:19:18,009
♪ May your wishes
All come true ♪
1652
01:19:18,011 --> 01:19:21,009
♪ May you always do for others ♪
1653
01:19:21,011 --> 01:19:24,012
♪ That others do for you ♪
1654
01:19:24,014 --> 01:19:27,016
♪ May you build a ladder
To the stars ♪
1655
01:19:27,018 --> 01:19:29,026
♪ Climb on every rung ♪
1656
01:19:29,028 --> 01:19:32,028
♪ May you stay ♪
1657
01:19:35,012 --> 01:19:40,013
BOTH:
♪ Forever young ♪
1658
01:19:40,015 --> 01:19:42,023
A lot of the time,
before I go to sleep,
1659
01:19:42,025 --> 01:19:45,015
sometimes I just, I mean,
1660
01:19:45,017 --> 01:19:48,006
I can't help
but think about him.
1661
01:19:48,008 --> 01:19:50,003
You don't wanna, like,
1662
01:19:50,005 --> 01:19:52,006
make everything depressed
1663
01:19:52,008 --> 01:19:56,023
by talking about it every day,
you know?
1664
01:19:56,025 --> 01:19:59,022
But it's always there, you know.
1665
01:19:59,024 --> 01:20:01,028
I mean,
you can't not talk about it.
1666
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,007
When I read his note,
1667
01:20:03,009 --> 01:20:06,004
I could tell that it was
spirit of the moment,
1668
01:20:06,006 --> 01:20:08,012
and that, hopefully at least,
1669
01:20:08,014 --> 01:20:11,011
he didn't mean
some of the stuff that he said.
1670
01:20:11,013 --> 01:20:14,011
His note, it didn't come
from the Evan I knew.
1671
01:20:14,013 --> 01:20:17,007
It was just-- It was depressing
1672
01:20:17,009 --> 01:20:21,008
to see, like, just the horrible
stuff he said
1673
01:20:21,010 --> 01:20:25,012
about not having friends, and...
1674
01:20:26,011 --> 01:20:29,009
I know he didn't mean it.
1675
01:20:33,022 --> 01:20:37,023
BOTH:
♪ May you stay ♪
1676
01:20:39,014 --> 01:20:42,025
♪ Forever young ♪
1677
01:20:45,019 --> 01:20:48,008
To thy hands,
oh merciful savior,
1678
01:20:48,010 --> 01:20:52,009
we command thy servant, Evan.
1679
01:20:52,011 --> 01:20:56,006
Receive him into the arms
of thy mercy,
1680
01:20:56,008 --> 01:21:00,005
into the blessed rest
of everlasting peace,
1681
01:21:00,007 --> 01:21:02,013
and into the glorious company
1682
01:21:02,015 --> 01:21:05,009
of the saints in light.
1683
01:21:05,011 --> 01:21:07,013
Amen.
ALL: Amen.
1684
01:21:09,006 --> 01:21:11,011
[♪♪]
1685
01:21:53,011 --> 01:21:55,014
[THUNDER CRASHES]
1686
01:22:09,017 --> 01:22:12,024
They forgot to, uh, dig the--
1687
01:22:12,026 --> 01:22:14,008
MAN:
1688
01:22:14,010 --> 01:22:16,012
Everything but the hole.
1689
01:22:21,011 --> 01:22:23,022
Well, anyway, who would've
told them where to dig it?
1690
01:22:23,024 --> 01:22:25,024
I don't know
how these things work.
1691
01:22:25,026 --> 01:22:28,004
I don't know, you know.
1692
01:22:28,006 --> 01:22:29,029
Somebody has to
mark off where--
1693
01:22:30,001 --> 01:22:32,023
All right, we'll do it,
we'll do it.
1694
01:22:32,025 --> 01:22:35,005
[THUNDER CRASHES]
1695
01:22:35,007 --> 01:22:37,009
Oh, you.
1696
01:22:41,010 --> 01:22:42,012
WOMAN:
1697
01:22:42,014 --> 01:22:43,023
Oh, he's laughing,
all right.
1698
01:22:43,025 --> 01:22:45,011
Mm-hm.
You better believe it.
1699
01:22:45,013 --> 01:22:48,027
He's roaring over this weather.
1700
01:22:48,029 --> 01:22:51,003
He that raised up
Jesus from the dead
1701
01:22:51,005 --> 01:22:53,027
will also give life
to our mortal bodies
1702
01:22:53,029 --> 01:22:58,009
in the sure and certain hope of
the resurrection to eternal life
1703
01:22:58,011 --> 01:23:00,020
through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1704
01:23:00,022 --> 01:23:04,007
We command to almighty God
our brother, Evan,
1705
01:23:04,009 --> 01:23:06,016
and we commit his body
to the ground,
1706
01:23:06,018 --> 01:23:09,008
earth to earth, ashes to ashes,
1707
01:23:09,010 --> 01:23:12,007
dust to dust. Amen.
1708
01:23:12,009 --> 01:23:14,005
ALL:
Amen.
1709
01:23:14,007 --> 01:23:16,012
[♪♪]
1710
01:23:34,007 --> 01:23:36,010
[THUNDER CRASHES]
1711
01:23:51,018 --> 01:23:55,006
MARTINE:
When somebody is that deep
1712
01:23:55,008 --> 01:23:58,004
and far into depression,
1713
01:23:58,006 --> 01:24:02,006
in such incredible pain,
there's nothing we can do.
1714
01:24:03,021 --> 01:24:05,019
Nothing.
1715
01:24:08,024 --> 01:24:09,029
BEATRICE:
It's survival--
1716
01:24:10,001 --> 01:24:13,029
Is really very difficult.
1717
01:24:15,029 --> 01:24:18,027
But, anyway,
you do the best you can.
1718
01:24:18,029 --> 01:24:21,004
Why else does he put us there?
1719
01:24:21,006 --> 01:24:23,008
You know that. There isn't any--
1720
01:24:23,010 --> 01:24:26,000
There isn't any choice.
1721
01:24:26,002 --> 01:24:30,017
If you found one, believe me,
deary, pass it along.
1722
01:24:30,019 --> 01:24:35,002
'Cause there is no choice.
1723
01:24:35,004 --> 01:24:37,029
There isn't a choice to cope.
1724
01:24:38,001 --> 01:24:39,021
There isn't.
1725
01:24:39,023 --> 01:24:43,000
I have a family. I have people
I love and people who love me,
1726
01:24:43,002 --> 01:24:46,008
and, uh, you really have
no choice
1727
01:24:46,010 --> 01:24:48,015
but to get up and put one foot
in front of the other.
1728
01:24:48,017 --> 01:24:52,013
And, um, basically,
1729
01:24:52,015 --> 01:24:54,014
I think the thing
that I think about most is, uh,
1730
01:24:54,016 --> 01:24:56,019
is I just can't believe it.
1731
01:24:56,021 --> 01:24:58,025
I can't believe this.
I can't believe it.
1732
01:24:58,027 --> 01:25:00,013
I can't believe
I'm sitting here.
1733
01:25:00,015 --> 01:25:04,016
I can't believe...
1734
01:25:04,018 --> 01:25:08,005
that, um...
1735
01:25:08,007 --> 01:25:12,001
that I gave birth to this boy
and raised him...
1736
01:25:13,005 --> 01:25:15,000
and buried him.
I can't believe it.
1737
01:25:15,002 --> 01:25:16,017
It's just a sense of disbelief.
1738
01:25:16,019 --> 01:25:19,004
I don't know if I'll ever really
understand that it's true.
1739
01:25:19,006 --> 01:25:20,009
That this really happened.
1740
01:25:20,011 --> 01:25:21,027
I can't believe
it really happened.
1741
01:25:21,029 --> 01:25:23,005
Tell me it's a dream.
1742
01:25:23,007 --> 01:25:25,004
I can't believe it. I can't.
1743
01:25:25,006 --> 01:25:29,000
And I can't believe
that the days continue to go by,
1744
01:25:29,002 --> 01:25:30,021
and the--
1745
01:25:32,006 --> 01:25:36,008
And that the world
continues to rotate
1746
01:25:36,010 --> 01:25:37,027
without him.
1747
01:25:37,029 --> 01:25:40,003
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
1748
01:25:42,017 --> 01:25:44,012
Oh, nice.
Here, look at that.
1749
01:25:44,014 --> 01:25:47,008
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
1750
01:25:52,022 --> 01:25:55,002
Into the ground again.
1751
01:25:58,017 --> 01:26:02,000
I hope this tree grows
strong and proud,
1752
01:26:02,002 --> 01:26:05,012
and beautiful,
to remind us of Evan.
1753
01:26:05,014 --> 01:26:08,020
And always provide
beauty and shade
1754
01:26:08,022 --> 01:26:10,025
for future generations.
1755
01:26:10,027 --> 01:26:12,028
DANA:
And that every time we see it,
1756
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,012
we'll always think
of how much we loved him,
1757
01:26:15,014 --> 01:26:17,029
and how we'll always
remember him.
1758
01:26:24,001 --> 01:26:28,027
That's the part
that is gonna, I guess, change,
1759
01:26:28,029 --> 01:26:30,028
which is that as time passes
1760
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,023
I'll begin to believe
that it's true,
1761
01:26:32,025 --> 01:26:36,019
and that, basically,
what I have left of him
1762
01:26:36,021 --> 01:26:40,015
is those--
The 15 years that we had,
1763
01:26:40,017 --> 01:26:43,007
and, uh...
1764
01:26:43,009 --> 01:26:46,016
that there was beauty in that.
1765
01:26:46,018 --> 01:26:49,002
And joy, and, uh,
1766
01:26:49,004 --> 01:26:51,020
that maybe there's a lesson,
or maybe we can learn something,
1767
01:26:51,022 --> 01:26:55,023
or-- Or communicate something,
but, um,
1768
01:26:55,025 --> 01:26:57,016
you know,
in terms of coping it's just,
1769
01:26:57,018 --> 01:27:00,022
you know, it's our choice.
1770
01:27:00,024 --> 01:27:02,029
I don't have a choice.
1771
01:27:04,005 --> 01:27:06,000
There is none.
1772
01:27:08,016 --> 01:27:10,021
[♪♪]
1773
01:27:15,006 --> 01:27:16,020
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
1774
01:28:01,013 --> 01:28:04,022
DANA:
Even though we lostthis battle,
1775
01:28:04,024 --> 01:28:06,017
we'll never forgetthe experience we had
1776
01:28:06,019 --> 01:28:08,008
at Wellspring.
1777
01:28:10,009 --> 01:28:11,027
[MAN GRUNTING]
1778
01:28:14,016 --> 01:28:17,005
HART:
I volunteered to make beams
1779
01:28:17,007 --> 01:28:19,018
for the barn at Wellspring.
1780
01:28:22,011 --> 01:28:24,018
By the farm and sawmill.
1781
01:28:24,020 --> 01:28:29,013
And it was a way of givingsomething back to Wellspring,
1782
01:28:29,015 --> 01:28:31,024
that had given us so much.
1783
01:28:37,014 --> 01:28:39,005
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
1784
01:28:39,007 --> 01:28:41,015
DANA:
And that's gonna be a buildingwhere other kids
1785
01:28:41,017 --> 01:28:46,002
are gonna be able to get thekind of therapy that Evan got.
1786
01:28:49,014 --> 01:28:53,004
These beams here,
these are ours.
1787
01:28:53,006 --> 01:28:55,015
All the side beams,
1788
01:28:55,017 --> 01:28:59,007
and look at that inscription
over there.
1789
01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:14,021
DANA:
Here was an opportunityto make something physical
1790
01:29:14,023 --> 01:29:16,003
in memory of Evan.
1791
01:29:19,027 --> 01:29:22,006
People can say, "Well,
who's Evan?" It doesn't matter.
1792
01:29:22,008 --> 01:29:27,005
What matters is,
is that, you know,
1793
01:29:27,007 --> 01:29:32,002
somebody loved Evan enough to...
1794
01:29:32,004 --> 01:29:35,018
want to remember his name.
1795
01:29:35,020 --> 01:29:37,020
[♪♪]
1796
01:29:37,022 --> 01:29:39,025
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
1797
01:29:51,029 --> 01:29:54,018
[MAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY
IN THE DISTANCE]
1798
01:29:58,016 --> 01:30:02,007
MAN:
So we come thanking God
for what he has blessed,
1799
01:30:02,009 --> 01:30:04,015
for the sacredness of this land,
1800
01:30:04,017 --> 01:30:06,015
asking that God will continue
to watch over
1801
01:30:06,017 --> 01:30:09,027
everyone who works here and all
those who've been part of it.
1802
01:30:09,029 --> 01:30:12,002
[APPLAUSE]
1803
01:30:15,007 --> 01:30:17,010
[CHATTER]
1804
01:30:31,010 --> 01:30:33,015
[♪♪]
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