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- Previously on the "In The City" reunion--
- How many people are you sleeping with?
And how-- - No, it was Sally.
- --soon after. - It was Sally.
- OK, just Sally.
- I think you were, off the bat, defensive.
- As I should be.
- I almost threw up watching this last night.
- Whitney, can you name any other instance where
Lindsay played the mom card?
- You feel like you're a little more
deserving than other people.
- You know I cried about what you said for six months.
And the only time I didn't fucking cry about it
was when you had a scandal.
So thank you, Amanda, for taking me out of that.
- The dramatic conclusion of the "In the City"
reunion starts now.
[theme music]
- I-- I came out here just now.
And I apologized for it. And--
- OK, well, you're going to need
15 more apologies to any mom in the entire world.
- It wasn't about that.
I'm sorry that it-- it came out that way.
But it wasn't--
- A really poor choice of words.
- Lindsay, you collect apologies
like you collect souls.
How many times do you want her to apologize?
- The biggest, important, role of my life--
- How many times do you want her
to acknowledge and apologize?
How many times, Lindsay?
- Well, I don't accept it for now.
- OK.
- I'd like to hear from Yvonne.
- I understand where Lindsay's coming from because I have seen
her go through hell last year.
- I wasn't trying to demean any of that.
- You were-- - I know but--
- And Yvonne-- why didn't you talk to Yvonne?
- I'm just trying to say, like, I wasn't--
I just was, like, a little offended
that, like, you were saying were standing up for me
but then somehow tying me to what you said about her and--
- Well, again, what did Lindsay and Georgina say when they--
- Listen, Lindsay and Georgina, at the top of the stairs--
- I can't. - --they were not--
- That's fine.
- You guys were not being that nice at the top of the stairs.
Like, we were in a fight.
And you guys weren't really willing to be like, OK, great,
let's give her the room.
- All I said was that we're taking this room.
- That was a separate thing.
- It was a sweet gesture, which was nice.
And you guys were kind of being, you know.
- Yvonne, Lindsay and I also, like--
- You were being a little crazy that day.
- We are-- look, but I think that's a separate conversation
than what happened after.
- So Yvonne, we saw you make up during the Connecticut trip.
- Yeah.
- So where do things stand now?
- I mean, we-- we talk to each other a hundred times a day.
We're always on the phone.
We--
- Nick, do you feel like you're in a relationship with Lindsay?
- I'll let Lindsay answer that. [laughter]
What do you usually say when I walk in?
- We're in a throuple. [laughter]
- She says, hello, husband.
- Yeah, they are as close as ever.
And being around them makes me, like, happy
that they found each other and have been friends for so long.
Because their loyalty and their bond is, like--
is closer than sisters.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- That's nice.
- Yeah.
- All right, armed with a handy list of Danielle's missteps
on her phone, Lindsay went into the season avoiding her old pal
like it was her job.
Meanwhile, Danielle thought Lindsay and Amanda
were being jerks for investigating Eoin
like a couple of private dicks.
Take a look at this tug of war between old friends.
- You're like, I want the best for Lindsay.
But the delivery is just, like, fucked.
- Yeah.
100% apologize if that's the way my tone and my message
came across.
- Yeah.
- She's moving in with this man who's still married.
- What?
- You're blowing my mind right now!
I need you to stop.
- It was a fucking blog that called me a homewrecker.
And the reason why he was getting fucking divorced
was because of me.
- Is this not the truth? - That's--
- What is not the truth? - I'm out.
I'm out. I'm out.
I'm out. - What are you talking about?
- She thinks that that's fucking true.
- I didn't-- - Go fuck yourself.
- Wait. What?
- You've been wanting to find information about my man.
- Why is it that I'm the one bringing this shit up?
I only operate on facts.
- I was literally trying to clear Eoin's name
so people wouldn't--
- Why does he have to clear his name?
He doesn't know the--
I'm the one--
- Then why is he on this fucking show?
- Because I introduced him to you fuckers.
- Why are you on the fucking show?
[dramatic music]
- Oh.
That's where-- that's what it is!
- If you don't want to talk about your-- the girl
in white should leave.
- It's fucking pink, you bitch.
♪ ♪
- Danielle, what was your reaction
to Lindsay's detailed list of all of your misdeeds?
- Honestly, I was shocked--
season-by-season account of these grievances, some of which
I was, like, very, very surprised about.
I just--
- The hand job.
- I didn't think that our friendship
came to-- came to that.
It was giving Kyle's 17-page email.
- I'm not going to pretend like--
- He didn't send a 17-page email.
- Yeah.
- I'm a volcano.
I erupted in the form of a 17-page
email sent to the entire house from last summer.
- I think my whole point in that moment was, you know,
last March, when we met for lunch, I was, like,
really excited.
You know, we had a really great day.
You met Gemma.
You came over afterwards.
We spent, like, four or five hours together.
And then, boom, the show was airing, confessional
after confessional.
And I was like, you know what?
- But you came to me for the--
the one that you thought--
- I texted you.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, about Carl and how you thought that I was,
like-- you were putting it in Carl's face
about the gender reveal.
- Yeah, you said that-- - Right.
- --in your confessional.
- And what?
So then you were fed up, and you couldn't
text me about the other stuff.
Like--
- I mean, how many more texts do I need to send about, like--
- Honestly, just-- I think it was--
I thought it was just the one more.
- If I can weigh in, knowing you guys
and knowing your friendship, it was kind of blow
after blow with some of those scenes from season 9,
the beach, the confessionals.
Like, I actually understood exactly
where Lindsay was coming from.
I don't think you were actually doing it with a lot
of, like, ill intent.
- No-- - But it--
- -- I would say. - But it added up.
- In the moment, truly, like, when it came out in April, I--
I was not tuned in.
I wasn't.
When you were filling me in, that's-- that was me
hearing it for the first time. - Right.
So-- - I apologize.
It's on me to watch the show.
- Well, Lindsay, Nay from Delaware,
said, why does Danielle owe you loyalty
that you never showed her?
Carl was Danielle's ex and very good friend first.
Where was that loyalty you expect
your friends to give you?
- I think that's a great question.
And I'm glad that whoever from wherever said this.
Who was it?
- Nay from Delaware.
- Nay from Delaware, thank you for that question.
Danielle and Carl-- correct me if I'm wrong.
You know it better.
It was your life-- you guys dated for about a month.
- Three months but sure.
- OK, three months, about a year before his "Summer House"
season 1 started filming.
- Yeah, so it would have been 2016 or something like that.
- OK.
And they-- it seemed like a very, very casual thing.
When you came in on season 2, like,
we started-- by the end of season
2, we-- that's when we really developed our friendship.
- Mm-hmm.
- By season 4, when Carl and I started whatever,
the no-kiss finger bang--
- Great song.
I wonder who wrote that.
[laughter]
♪ - (SINGING) # Fuck this first, second base
♪ bullshit, finger blasting. ♪
- Yeah!
♪ - (SINGING) # Finger blasting ♪
[dramatic music]
- Oh, shit.
- I was, like, very upfront.
- You framed it as if you guys were in this relationship.
And you guys were not in a relationship.
- No, no, I didn't frame it as that.
- When you frame it as that Kyle about it,
you were like, it was before our engagement and
the first time we broke up.
- Before Carl and I got engaged,
she gave him a hand job in the back of an Uber
a week after we broke up.
- Ha.
- Oh, I see what you're saying.
As far as, like, the OTPHJ in the back of the Uber,
that's what you're talking about.
- Well, you said it was a hand job, and it was not.
Carl lied then.
- Well, what are the last two words of OTPHJ?
- I just-- there was nothing sexual
going on between him and I. - Over-the-pants hand job.
- Hand job. Thank you, Andy.
- And I just think I'm tired of, like,
the oversexualization of it.
Like, it just-- it wasn't that.
You positioned it as something very sexual.
- Did you give him a hand job in the Uber?
- No, I did not. - OK.
- Kyle, then-- - Carl lied.
- Did you touch him over the pants?
- It was an over-the-pants situation.
- But it wasn't that, either.
- Well, I mean, is it just rubbing
his dick through his pants? - I wasn't there.
I was in Mexico.
- It was just like, why is it always something new happens?
There was the hand job.
There was this happened.
That happened.
- But that-- but you're-- this is what you do, Lindsay.
You-- you basically bring up these kind
of-- these fabrications.
You put in lies, truths, just random--
- It's not a fabrication.
I wasn't there in the back of that Uber.
- Exactly. So prove that it happened.
- It was just a bad friend move.
- But it's a lie, though.
- It was just a bad friend move.
- OK, so what's your-- - That was my entire point.
- It was an issue then.
It's-- it was crazy to me that it's an issue six years later.
- OK, well, let me ask you this, Danielle.
- Because I was protecting you, Danielle.
I made sure not to talk about it.
- OK, let me ask this, Danielle.
DanaToddPope on Threads said, do you secretly resent Lindsay
for dating Carl after you?
You act like you're best friends.
But you hate on her to her face.
You even gave-- you even gave him a hand job.
- I'd rather hate on someone to their face,
by the way, than ever do it behind their back.
And I'm, like-- I know I'm direct, and my choice of
words sucks.
But you know what you're getting with me.
And I'm not a mystery.
And my intentions, by the way, are always in the right place.
And do I mince words?
Do I suck at communication?
Sometimes, yes.
And I will own that till I'm blue in the face.
- Tell me where the two of you are now.
- Honestly, I was--
I was really upset watching some of--
the googling of Eoin really set me--
set me off a little bit.
I didn't know about the entire Notes grievance list.
You know, it just-- it just seems
like it set us so far back.
- I also, we also have a kid coming.
I mean, we have-- we have a kid.
We have a-- I have a pregnant partner.
We can't really be dealing with a lot of this toxic stuff.
A lot of this group is--
- Isn't that so crazy, Eoin?
- Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah. - Lot of that's--
- I'm looking at you.
- You're saying, you dealt with it when you were pregnant.
- That's literally why I was--
- That's why she was upset in the first place--
is what she's saying.
So does this-- so let me ask you this.
Is being pregnant-- does-- does being
pregnant make you see what happened
in your relationship with Lindsay
while she was pregnant differently?
- The other way around.
- I think that, yes, with more clar-- like,
I would have liked us to have a conversation
more in the moment.
You know, I'm very apologetic for that.
Sometimes it feels like you are not done punishing
me for certain things.
- You know, I'm so tired of taking the heat,
protecting Danielle to then get shit on year
after year after year after year.
Now I have a kid.
I don't have time for this.
I don't have time for the negative energy.
I just-- just wash my hands clean of it.
The next thing you know, you pop up and you're on the show.
And that's fine.
- And I think you hated that.
- I don't hate it.
- I just didn't think.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Coming up.
- How diabolical would it have been for me to invite
two of my friends while I'm--
- That's what we were all thinking when we saw that.
[dramatic music]
[theme music]
♪ ♪
♪ ♪
- I just don't know what you thought was going to happen,
popping up on a show.
And then you thought you didn't have to talk about anything.
Like, that's-- literally, like, that's what's crazy to me.
- I talk about things.
- That's why, at the wedding I was like, well,
I don't understand.
Like, what are you doing here if you
don't want to share anything?
- Speaking of the wedding, for the record,
was Danielle's dress at Yvonne and Nick's wedding
reception pink or white?
- [scoffs] White.
- This is like that blue and gold, whatever it was.
- Let's be honest.
If you were invited to an all pink party--
- She admitted it.
- --they wouldn't have let you in.
- She admit it.
- What? - She owned it.
- Yeah.
- Did you think about that before you came?
- She was in the middle. It wasn't pink.
It wasn't white.
- It was-- it was-- light pink.
- The lighting didn't do it any favors.
- It was white.
- But yeah.
- Yvonne, I texted you.
I texted Whitney. I texted Katie.
I texted my mom.
And I showed Eoin.
And like--
- So you texted all these people a picture of the dress.
- And-- and in hindsight, I'm like, well,
if you have to text that many people
about the color of a dress, you probably
shouldn't wear the dress.
- I get a text, like, an hour before the event.
And I glanced at it.
And she said, hey, like, my dress is formal, but it's pink.
So I looked at it. I said, great.
You look great.
See you there.
So all I saw was, you know, she's a CEO of a fashion--
- A pink-- a pink dress in a photo.
- You said it was pink.
- I sent you a photo of myself in a self-- it was a selfie.
I texted you about it.
- You sent me a pink dress.
- Yes, the one that I am wearing right now,
the literal, exact one. - That's not pink.
It looks very white. You also--
- If you text a picture, it means that you're on the
fence, right?
- I didn't have enough fucking time to come
up with something better.
- Cheers.
- First of all, you put me in an awkward position, right?
What I would have wrote to you is, hey, my dress looks white,
but it's pink.
Can I wear it?
- In the future, I'll be sure to write it--
- Yeah, we'll really spell it out for you.
- Yeah, I think if it-- it was like,
you knew it was borderline.
- It-- it was questionable.
But the thing that I'm more upset about myself
is retaliating with the bitch, I think, multiple times.
- I am so over everybody fighting
at this dinner table, especially when people
show up in a white dress.
- Are you talking about me, bitch?
[music playing]
- That's also really not a thing to say.
- I think that's why I was a little--
- That was terrible. - That was an odd word choice.
- But also, I thought, like, in the moment,
I was being a little set up.
Because I was like, I texted you--
- You set yourself up.
- I was like, I texted this bitch.
And-- and here she comes.
And so, like, I-- you know, I-- poor choice of words.
I-- at your wedding--
sorry.
I will never wear light pink again or call you a bitch.
- Gabrielle from Switzerland said,
Danielle, you've said before that Amanda was the person
you trusted the least.
What was it that made you feel that way
when so many others seemed to trust her completely?
And looking at the situation today, do you feel vindicated?
- You asked me this question already.
And I said, yes.
Because that comment came from a place of just not knowing
what I get from you, ever.
And I couldn't understand who you--
you, as Amanda-- are.
- Mm-hmm.
- To me, that is--
it's scary.
I like-- I like more stable situations,
where I know what I'm getting.
- So Amanda, what do you think of what Danielle just said.
- I can understand it.
I don't think Danielle and I ever
got to a place of friendship, where I was able to fully,
like, let her in.
I think it was surface level.
So for her to feel that she couldn't fully trust me,
I completely understand.
- Danielle, what is your current relationship
with Amanda like, especially in light
of the recent news surrounding her West relationship?
And what is your relationship with West?
- I have no relationship with West, will never
have a relationship with West.
I think what you did was an absolute mistake
and horrendous.
And you should not have done the things that you've done.
I-- I did appreciate when you texted me and
Eoin about looking back on-- on our situation
and what-- how-- how you kind of, you know,
came at us and your perspective, newly gained.
I-- I will acknowledge that.
I don't-- I think that there's a very long road--
- What did she text you?
- She texted, you know, a whole--
apologizing for the way that she acted and came at us
with the homewrecker stuff.
- Even before the season came out--
- Yes.
- --I was doing a lot of reflecting.
- It was, like, three weeks ago.
- Yeah. Because--
- And we both appreciated it.
- Yeah.
- I just think that there's a very-- you know,
we have more shit to sort out.
- 100%. - And--
- And I would like to apologize to both of you
again after watching those scenes.
I cringed.
I actually had to, like, fast-forward a little bit
and, like, close my eyes because it was
really hard to watch myself.
And I do deeply apologize, even watching it back again now,
the way that I handled those things
and having any sort of opinion on your relationship
whatsoever. - Thank you.
- Forgive me.
But as I sit here, I'm reflecting back
on sitting with you a few months ago
at the "Summer House" reunion.
And your apology to Danielle was clear, sincere, taking
ownership, very remorseful.
And it was kind of, I think, a lot
of what would have gone a long way to Ciara on that day.
- Mm-hmm.
- How do you have that clarity with Danielle
when the betrayal was stronger and the friendship was
stronger there?
- I was, I mean, terrified going into that day.
I knew, like, the pain that I had caused.
I felt-- and I'm not, like, making excuses.
I don't know how to say this without it sounding bad.
But like, I couldn't get a word in.
And it felt like, every time I wanted to try to say something,
I would get--
- Annoyed.
- --cut off or interrupted or whatever it was.
And it got to the point where I was frustrated.
And I couldn't speak with calmness
or sincerity or apologetic because I
got defensive instead.
Especially going in, that first thing I said
was that I was sorry to Kyle and Ciara and it was--
I knew what the temperature was going to be from there on out,
and it kind of--
I shut down.
I'm prepared to take accountability, apologize
especially to Ciara and Kyle.
- I'm glad she could say her name, right?
- What?
- I'm glad you could say her name this time.
- Did you ever consider reaching out to her privately?
- I did.
I actually had written a text at one point,
but I learned that I was blocked
and there was no point in sending it.
- Coming up, regarding the information that you found out
that Kyle had had sex with someone while you were married,
when did you find that out?
- Recently.
- OK, we are back.
Eoin, were you purposefully being vague about your divorce
at boys night?
- Yeah.
- You like that. - Finally.
- I like that answer.
- A clear answer.
- I would have respected that answer so many months ago.
- So, by the way, a legal matter.
- Yes.
- So then why not just say-- and
so, why were you being vague?
I think I was coming into a group that I don't know.
I obviously had my hesitations, given
the amount of drama craving that goes on in this group.
But, I think I had an issue that I was dealing with,
and I didn't think it normal to talk
to people that I don't even know about a personal issue.
- And were you extra concerned because there were cameras?
- Ah, no, but I think looking back on it,
I think it was interesting to see
how people really turned on their questions
when the camera came on.
Actually, I don't think anybody--
and I'll leave Andrea and Nick out of this because they've
never brought it up.
They don't think it's appropriate.
But no one has, either when cameras went down or even
after we finished filming, has ever asked me
anything about my divorce or my previous marriage.
- You made it clear that you don't want to be asked.
- Yeah, exactly.
- But when the cameras came on--
- You can't use that as a weapon--
- When the cameras came on--
- You don't ask off camera, you understand?
- OK, so it's for the cameras.
- We were terrified to ask.
- So it's for the cameras.
- It was for Danielle because I--
- How is it for Danielle?
- I was only watching it--
- It was for Danielle, and it was for us.
- How do you not--
- Friends?
- People are nosy.
- Absolutely.
- Especially with friends.
- So, people want to know what's going on.
- Daniel, there was actual-- there was actual concern.
- It was gossipy for sure.
It was gossipy. - It was.
It was gossipy.
- They were all walking in, complaining
about how Eoin didn't open up the night before at boys night.
Boys, the boys. - Men.
- One more time.
- No, I'll call you a man when you act like one.
- OK.
- So Kenny, Gavin, and Kyle are sitting there gossiping
about, oh, and I said, well, let's just like,
try to figure out the facts.
Like, that's why I opened up Google,
because they were gossiping.
- But that was some crazy shit.
Like you don't do that.
- But when it came to--
- We were egging her on.
- At that wedding, none of these boys stood up and
said, actually--
- You were on the Mini Express.
- Were they running their mouths?
- That's why it was, like, none of these boys--
- It was tea-- - No, she did say--
- It was tea and gossip.
It wasn't like--
- --stood up and said, it was us, that were, like--
- So you don't know if Danielle--
- And also-- - They let me to dry.
- I had a side conversation.
- They let me hang to dry like a fucking prosciutto.
- And so do you have plans to marry after your divorce
is final?
- Yeah, we would like to.
- Yeah.
- Can't be married twice at the same time.
- Danielle, Tiffany from Virginia
said, after watching this back this season
and seeing Lindsay's side of things
when it comes to your friendship over the years,
do you see a path forward in which
you two would be able to get back to a place
of genuine friendship?
- I just don't want any more lists of grievances.
Like, you want a one-on-one, like get every single detail
out and then properly move forward,
I'm so, so down for that.
I just like-- you know what?
I want new mistakes to be made.
I don't want to keep walking on--
- To be honest, I listed my grievances.
They're out the door.
Like we talked about them.
We went to brunch. - You feel clean.
- Yeah.
- You feel clean.
- Yeah, just also, no more Googling about
fucking hairdressers.
- I can't promise that I will Google anyone
that my friends are dating.
- Don't Google me.
And they Google mine.
- OK.
- I do.
- Well, I have good news.
- Oh, we get to talk about you and Amanda now.
Kyle and Amanda's rough summer led
to plenty of autumnal awkwardness
back in the city, where the tension
ballooned faster than the timeline of Amanda's new lease.
And what was once floated as a temporary separation
rapidly evolved into Kymanda's permanent new reality.
Take a look.
- I'm going to move out.
And this isn't, like, a permanent-- this
is, like, a month.
So I finally found a place.
It is a year-long lease.
I'm doing this for the sake of our relationship,
to try to get things to a better place.
And you're just going out fucking around,
doing whatever the fuck you want.
It would be silly to say that we're in love.
- Am I in love right now?
Like, no.
- Kyle, was there some part of you that was grateful
that Amanda chose to move out?
- I think that there was a sense of like,
responsibility and--
- Relief?
- No, I just-- even though I knew our relationship was not,
potentially not repairable, there was something about me
wanting to still take care of her and provide,
and I don't know if it's like male pride.
But like, I was just not going to be the one that instigates
or initiates a separation.
- I'm just curious for the group,
did you all know that Kyle was caught making out with someone
after he and Amanda got married?
- And by the way, this whole caught making out thing--
- I didn't know about the--
- Wholly unaware.
- Yeah, I didn't tell anyone about it.
- Yeah, I think she kept that one.
- I think we protected various aspects of our marriage,
I will say that.
I'm not proud of any type of indiscretions.
I don't have a recollection of--
personally, I think I was like, very close
to someone on a dance floor.
And--
- Your lips touched?
- While he was--
at the end of the day, he was out at a club
by himself, solo, dancing close enough to someone
while married that they could have
mistaken it for making out.
And there's a video.
So like--
- And I'm not proud of it.
- Were the aspects that you protected like that you
hadn't had sex in years?
- We went into a funk immediately after our wedding.
- Wow.
- I recently certainly heard that--
- It took years to get us into counseling.
- I heard that he had sex with someone that was confirmed
while we were married.
- That is not true.
- --from that person's friend.
That person told their friend that like it was 100%
true while we were married.
- What?
- Who is she? I'll kill her.
- I don't know.
- When did you find that out?
- Recently.
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I heard that he had sex with someone that was confirmed
while we were married--
- That is not true.
- From that person's friend.
That person told their friend that like it was 100%
true while we were married.
- OK.
- What? - Who is she?
I'll kill her.
- I don't know.
- Regarding the information that you found out
that Kyle had had sex with someone while you were married,
when did you find that out?
- Recently.
- After you split up?
- Oh, yeah, like, in the past few weeks.
- Is there other stuff that you've found out on that?
- I haven't been on the internet in a minute.
But I mean, throughout our relationship, like, yeah,
and a lot of the times he didn't have an answer
and he didn't know.
And so like, I don't know what's true
and what's not because he didn't remember.
And--
- It's not like I'm out like--
- Either way, he's being inappropriate enough where
people are getting the idea.
- But like, even--
- I'll give you an idea, we were together--
- You tell me I brought people back to our apartment.
It was, like, a gay guy in his, like, best friend.
- You had a three way with a gay guy and his best friend?
- And it was a woman.
It was a woman.
- Andy's ears perks up.
- It was a woman.
It was a woman.
- It was very innocent.
- And it was the night that I was moving out,
to the point where our neighbors are buzzing
our doorbell because the bass is so loud,
it's vibrating our neighbors apartments.
- I was at our office.
- It was inappropriate.
It was weird that you brought strangers back,
but it was the night that I was moving out
and you were hanging out with random people.
- Yeah, I didn't want to be home.
- In the office. - I didn't want to be home.
- It was weird.
- OK, I'm being honest.
- And that's fine, but--
- I did not want to be around the chaos that was--
- When I was moving out, I was hopeful.
The fact that that's the note that I left on,
changed my feelings about moving out
and, like, what that step meant.
- OK.
- Because that's how we left it.
- Can I ask you guys a question?
And you don't have to go into detail.
You don't.
But why didn't you have sex for four years?
- I was depressed.
Depression will do that.
That was part of it.
I think-- and this is a conversation we
had in therapy, also, before our wedding,
that I didn't feel--
like Kyle wasn't courting me.
This is how I felt. I wasn't getting courted.
There were no dates.
He would work all day, work all night, then come to bed,
tell me to answer an email, and then try to have sex with me.
And it felt like there was no foreplay.
There was no emotional intimacy.
There was no conversation.
There was, again, nothing else happening in the relationship.
And I felt-- I felt, this is not his intention
or what he was doing.
I felt like I was just an object at that point.
- Like a vessel.
- Yes.
And then the depression hit also,
and then it was just a unfortunate storm.
But like, I didn't feel like he--
and then, he would still go out.
He would still do these things.
We'd get into big fights.
I'd get more rumors.
- Can you imagine-- like, this is not like a guy-girl thing,
but like, we get married and there's just, like--
we never have sex.
We didn't have sex until we-- technically, it
wasn't four years of nothing.
We had sex, like, three times.
So.
But I'm just saying, like--
- I expressed to him what I would tell him.
I want to be taken out on a date.
- But first, it's like, I'm a workaholic.
Now I'm an alcoholic.
I just could never do anything.
Meanwhile, I'm providing, I'm doing everything.
- The goal post was moving. - Everything in our life--
- It wasn't. I left.
- --was on my shoulders.
- I made it very clear, it was the drinking.
- Can you accept your part in it though?
- It was the going out late. - Of course.
I've-- listen.
- And the fact that you wouldn't talk all day.
- One of my issues, like, every single thing we ever did,
was only because I arranged it.
So like, every date we ever went on, trip, getaway--
I'm putting in the hours now, or then--
- Exactly.
- --so we can provide for--
- So I was being put on the back burner--
- And now I'm being crucified
- --and your priority-- you're not being crucified,
but it did take a toll on our romantic
and intimate relationship.
- As it probably does in every entrepreneurial--
- Your priority was work and your solution
was for me to read a book on how to date an entrepreneur.
- Yeah, it's a great book.
- And I wanted you to take me on a date.
- Oh, Kyle.
- So, like, you're literally saying exactly what I'm saying,
is that you worked really hard for our future,
but it did have an effect on our marriage and
our relationship.
- Kyle, do you think you're going
to have a problem with infidelity in the future,
like when you have another relationship?
- No.
I think that--
I can better appreciate the role
trust plays because, clearly, I never got it back.
I thought showing my--
- Because you kept breaking my trust.
- Amanda. I--
- There was a New Year's Eve where
we went out a few years ago.
Your family was-- like, cousins were there too,
and we went to a bar after because you really wanted to go
and you were so drunk.
And as we're leaving, you blow raspberries
on some girl's neck.
Your mouth was on her neck.
And I said, who is that girl?
You said, I don't know.
And then I pulled you out, and I'm there with you.
So I can only imagine the things that you are doing--
- But do you see how, like, I'm--
- --when I'm not there. - That is just me.
I'm in-- - But you're married.
That's not innocent.
Putting your mouth on a stranger's neck.
- You're right next to me, I'm not
trying to do anything shady. - Oh, my god.
- But Kyle, come on.
- That is shady.
- OK, well, what's happening when she's not there?
- Exactly.
So like, that made me spiral after seeing--
- That's like, who I am though.
- Like, literally, your mouth was on a stranger's neck,
and she was hot, too.
- First of all, I call it a blubber kiss.
- Kyle, don't die on that hill.
- Blubber kisses are not the vibe.
- We were-- like--
- That's not OK.
- Like, it's not OK.
[tense music]
- Coming up--
Can I ask you a question that's going to piss you off?
[theme music]
Welcome back to part two of "In The City" reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen.
The scene where Amanda had lunch with West and Sierra
landed differently knowing what we know now.
- This makes me so happy right now.
- You guys got to eventually just,
like, chill out, all right?
- Why?
This is my dream.
- Mine, too.
- Yeah.
West has been fighting for this his whole life.
- For the group, when you saw that,
did you come away from that scene thinking
that Amanda did not have feelings for West
in that moment?
- I think that they had a very weird friendship.
It seemed like West definitely had his eyes set
and you were so checked out--
- You were giddy in that deal.
- You were receiving it like-- - I had--
- You were-- you were giddy and excited.
- Holding their hands because I had
Sierra and West together because they
had just become friends.
How diabolical would it have been for me to invite
two of my friends, while--
- That's what we were all thinking when we saw that.
- But I'm not--
- Diabolical.
- So did you know then that he and Sierra were hooking
up a little bit at that time? - No.
No.
- Gavin, the fighting between Kyle and Amanda
reached an all-time high during Yvonne
and Nick's wedding dinner.
Do you feel guilty at all for stirring the pot?
- No.
- What?
- No, I don't.
I want the best for them.
- Stirred the pot more than the chef stirred.
- They aren't doing couples therapy.
They stopped that.
Now back to Kyle and Amanda-- go.
Amanda, are you still in love?
Kyle, are you still in love?
And they're not talking at home because of XYZ, whatever.
So I was like, Yvonne's wedding, we're here,
maybe this is a good opportunity.
- Kyle, what was your reaction to Danielle
saying that you found a loophole to continue partying
with this new DJ contract?
- I mean, it hurts.
It's like, whittling and diminishing
it down to something that it just isn't.
Like, you've known me for how long?
Like, music has always been a big part of my life.
I mean, to some extent, like, do I--
was it nice to get out of the house?
Yeah.
We were not happy.
And I was extremely lonely and that's
part of the reason why every time I go out, people, like--
I'm excited to be around people because we had nothing
really going on at home.
- In that moment, though I also said, OK, well,
if you guys are trying to fix things in your relationship
and drinking and partying is an issue,
why don't you DJ without alcohol?
- And to be fair--
- And you didn't want to do that.
- I've had the same feeling.
- I just DJ'ed all January, the very month that we were talking
about it because guess what?
I did dry January.
DJ'ed eight gigs sober.
- --down, you were like no, like, why would I?
- Because that's not what it was about.
That's not why I was DJ-ing.
- To me-- - And guess what?
I did dry January.
- --it felt like--
- One month.
But I still do feel like I get messages--
because I still, to this day, get messages
from people being like, I saw Kyle out
and he was x, y, and z and this drunk
and it wasn't even an event where you drink that much and
this-- and like, and you can't blame it
on me anymore at this point.
- I'm not. W--
- It used to be like I was the reason that like,
you needed to go out and socialize,
and now, you're able to socialize
and it's just we don't have to talk about it, but--
just be mindful.
- Seems like a problem.
- I can tell you it's not.
- Can I ask you a question that's going to piss you off?
- What?
- When-- just going back to "Summer House"
and there was the moment in the bathroom where like--
- Bad word.
- --said, "fuck you" and "you're a piece of shit,"
and "you're a fucking idiot."
- Fucking dumb ass bitch.
- Yes, I'm a dumb ass bitch, Kyle.
- How often in your marriage did
things escalate to the point where
you would fight like that?
- All the time.
- I-- I actually think that we are equally at fault.
Like, most of the time, I felt like you initiated the fight.
Like, I can-- sometimes I'm like--
- But was it worse behind closed doors,
if that's what we were seeing?
- No, I mean, like, of course, we'd have yelling matches.
But again, yelling match.
I'm not just, like, name calling out of thin air.
- Yeah, you were. - Well--
- OK.
- --it seemed like it that night because you said
she gave you "fuck you" eyes.
- She did.
- I know, but "fuck you" eyes?
- Maybe they were "fuck me" eye, not "fuck you" eyes.
- You would-- you had gathered up everybody
inside except me and brought--
- You're giving the "fuck me" eyes to West and the "fuck you"
eyes to Kyle. - Yeah.
- OK, Lindsay.
- Wow.
- Jesus, Lord.
- Touché.
And we didn't really talk about this
at the "Summer House" reunion because there was so much else.
But it was alarming to me.
That fight was super alarming to me.
And what was also really alarming was that it
was your birthday, right?
And that you shut down, acted like it never happened,
and were like, let's just party.
- Yeah.
- And that, to me, says that this was something that was
not an isolated occurrence.
- Yeah, no, it--
- But again, that's what we-- we get in fights
and have to put a smile on.
We literally come into the summer
in a really bad place in our marriage
and have to put a smile on.
Like, that's what I've been doing for years.
I'm just-- Amanda, I don't think
you can sit here and say that I'm
the one that is just, behind closed doors, yelling at you.
That is-- that's never, ever been the case.
- I mean, have there been times where it's escalated
and, like, I've also screamed back?
- I had to wake you up one morning just to walk the dogs,
and you nearly hit me.
Like, you don't-- you don't remember that?
- But the name calling typically came from you.
- Any updates on the actual divorce filing?
- He did respond to my lawyer with some requests.
He wants to do a walkaway divorce, but has--
is not just walking away.
So I have to speak--
- Well, certain things like, I don't know, get your stuff out
of my apartment.
[laughter]
God forbid I ask.
- Amanda, you got to get your stuff--
- Yes. No, I do.
- I don't think that's part of the filing.
That is crazy.
- But again, I--
- It's been, like, nine months. - What other requests?
- --when I moved out--
- Is that, like the biggest--
- The other is something dog-related.
- Yes.
And there's also money stuff I didn't like--
I don't want to get into--
- I still pay your health insurance.
- Thank you so much.
[laughter]
- I think we need to accept that, no offense, Kyle,
but you're getting like, a golden ticket here.
The world loves you after this.
You were about to be canceled.
You were about to be done.
- God forbid I'm canceled for being an unhappy marriage
and being a guy in the divorce.
- You were, though.
- That's not it.
- I mean-- - I'm not sure--
- You cursed her out on television.
Chance to do a spread with you after.
- I'm just saying, like that's something that no one's
really said out loud.
- What did-- I put a lot into our marriage
and didn't get much out.
- OK.
- I think you're two very good people who are
married to the wrong person.
- Yeah.
We'll be right back.
[sparkling]
[upbeat music]
We are back with final moments of "In the City" season 1.
So here we are.
Do we feel lighter and at peace now that you're at this place
in your relationship? - Yeah.
I mean, it bums me out that it didn't
work because I think that there was a point in time
where we had some incredible chemistry.
I do think that the trust thing played a huge role.
I don't--
- The reason I think that we stayed together longer than we
should is because there's so much love between us,
and there is friendship there also.
And I mean, we fell in love with each other for a reason.
We agreed to get married for a reason.
I think back to the good times we've had still to this day
and find myself getting emotional about it.
I was looking at videos the other week,
and like-- that popped up and was crying.
Because we've had such a good time together,
but we couldn't make it work.
And it sucks-- - That's what I'm saying.
I was bummed that we couldn't make it work.
But like at the end of the day, I think
that we are very different.
There were compatibility issues.
- You love each other.
- Unfortunately, like the-- it was like
too much damage had been done.
- Yeah.
And I think we were both stubborn
and weren't willing to repair it--
- There was a lot of stuff--
- And we're set in our ways.
And again, I think towards the end,
I was already mourning the relationship.
And it wasn't until I was like fully
over it that I was like ready to remove myself from it.
I was holding on to anything I had left, and I was afraid to--
I was afraid to leave because I was afraid to lose
you in my life in general.
That was scary, too.
- Well--
- And I'm glad I haven't yet.
- I hope that the two of you can figure out a friendship.
- She could.
Look at me and Carl.
We're besties again, and he's no longer a mess.
- It hasn't been easy working through our issues
on camera for 10 years.
It is a highly unusual situation
- Yes.
- But I'm glad that we're somehow kind of navigating
this next chapter. - Yes.
All right.
And we're going to leave it there.
I want to get some final thoughts from the group.
You know, Gavin and Kenny, you two kind of went
through it this season a bit.
Where are the two of you?
[laughter]
- We're good.
I love Gavin.
It's always--
- It's-- it's one of those relationships
that it would take a lot, a lot, a lot to break.
So ups and downs, but I think we're--
- As you saw, I love to poke.
I think I bring it back.
- I enjoy your poking. - Thank you.
- Yes.
- Thank you.
- Yes.
- So I'm always going to jab.
- What was Kenny's dad's reaction to the idea
that you two might accidentally get married in Peru?
- I'm going to marry this girl.
I really am.
And I know that, and she knows that.
And it was just a funny situation where we kind
of accidentally got married.
And we were like, wait a second, kiss your wife?
- For what happened?
- Yeah.
So it was-- they were laughing about it,
but it's just nice to have them in that conversation.
- Nice.
Andrea and Lexi, still having sex multiple times a day?
- We're taking it easier.
I mean--
- We don't want to injure her in there.
- --she's pretty scared.
And, you know, I--
[laughter]
I gotta, you know, be patient.
But this is what love is about.
- Danielle and Eoin, what excites you the most
about becoming parents?
- I think just raising a little Irish-Puerto Rican New
Yorker is going to be just--
- Nice.
- --the best.
- That's a great mix.
- Irish, Puerto Rican, and a New Yorker?
- Kind of psycho.
[laughter]
- Amanda, obviously you must be very happy that this day is
over and that the "Summer House"
reunion has completed airing.
I'm wondering-- I mean, where do
you see you and West heading?
- I'm not looking too far into the future right now.
Again, I thought I was going to be with Kyle forever and
see how that turned out.
So I'm just trying to take everything day by day.
It's hard to know what the future holds,
especially just being in such a shitty place right now.
- Kyle, will Summer be fun this summer for you?
- Summer should be fun, and Summer will be fun.
I'll make sure of it. I don't doubt that.
- All right.
That's a great place to leave it.
I want to thank the gang from "In the City" for being here
and for a banger first season.
I'm Andy Cohen.
Good night, everybody.
- My butt hurt.
[sparkling]
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