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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,935 --> 00:00:08,870 [gentle acoustic guitar music] 2 00:00:13,047 --> 00:00:15,049 - Got that down. - Mm-hm. 3 00:00:18,639 --> 00:00:22,470 ["Sleep Dirt" by Frank Zappa] 4 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:07,127 [upbeat rock music] 5 00:04:22,745 --> 00:04:26,749 ["Joe's Garage" by Frank Zappa] 6 00:04:32,651 --> 00:04:34,308 ♪ Wasn't very large 7 00:04:34,308 --> 00:04:36,552 ♪ It was just enough room to cram the drums 8 00:04:36,552 --> 00:04:39,106 ♪ In a corner over by the Dodge 9 00:04:39,106 --> 00:04:41,281 ♪ It was a '54 with a bashed up door 10 00:04:41,281 --> 00:04:43,662 ♪ And a cheesy little amp 11 00:04:43,662 --> 00:04:46,113 ♪ With a sign on the front that said Fender champ 12 00:04:46,113 --> 00:04:48,736 ♪ And a second-hand guitar 13 00:04:48,736 --> 00:04:52,913 ♪ It was a Stratocaster with a whammy bar 14 00:04:56,088 --> 00:04:58,194 ♪ We could jam in Joe's garage 15 00:04:58,194 --> 00:04:59,471 ♪ His mama was screamin' 16 00:04:59,471 --> 00:05:00,748 ♪ His dad was mad 17 00:05:00,748 --> 00:05:03,337 ♪ We was playin' the same old song 18 00:05:03,337 --> 00:05:04,718 ♪ In the afternoon 19 00:05:04,718 --> 00:05:08,169 ♪ And sometimes we would play it all night long 20 00:05:08,169 --> 00:05:10,344 ♪ It was all we knew and easy, too 21 00:05:10,344 --> 00:05:13,036 ♪ So we wouldn't get it wrong 22 00:05:13,036 --> 00:05:17,213 ♪ Even if you played it on a saxophone 23 00:05:25,808 --> 00:05:29,812 ♪ We thought we was pretty good 24 00:05:45,655 --> 00:05:49,038 - The memory of Frank is so clear in my mind. 25 00:05:49,038 --> 00:05:50,522 That's why I say-- 26 00:05:57,909 --> 00:06:01,015 - Every time I read the news or watching the news, 27 00:06:01,015 --> 00:06:03,846 I'm his friend, because, you know? 28 00:06:05,261 --> 00:06:09,403 But, that's the way life is, and I smile, my brother. 29 00:06:39,226 --> 00:06:41,677 I met Frank in 1972. 30 00:06:41,677 --> 00:06:44,818 I was a young kid in high school. 31 00:06:44,818 --> 00:06:47,890 And my schoolmates, you know, we were spending our summer 32 00:06:47,890 --> 00:06:50,133 driving around Europe. 33 00:06:50,133 --> 00:06:51,894 We ended up in Paris. 34 00:06:57,555 --> 00:06:59,833 So my friend called his brothers in Rome. 35 00:06:59,833 --> 00:07:03,492 And he asked us, he said, "Where you guys? 36 00:07:03,492 --> 00:07:04,700 "Who you are? 37 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:06,667 "Frank Zappa Play Rome tomorrow night." 38 00:07:06,667 --> 00:07:09,981 So we got a shot at seeing Frank Zappa in Italy. 39 00:07:09,981 --> 00:07:14,157 ["Florentine Pogen" by Frank Zappa] 40 00:07:25,928 --> 00:07:27,688 In less than a day, we drove all the way 41 00:07:27,688 --> 00:07:29,794 from Paris down to Rome. 42 00:07:29,794 --> 00:07:33,970 We drove all day and all night and we arrive at the gig. 43 00:07:35,144 --> 00:07:37,802 So we saw the show, we loved it. 44 00:07:57,753 --> 00:08:00,514 At the end of the show, we went to the backstage. 45 00:08:00,514 --> 00:08:02,447 At that time you could do that. 46 00:08:02,447 --> 00:08:05,208 [crowd cheering] 47 00:08:07,590 --> 00:08:09,592 There was no security and no nothing. 48 00:08:09,592 --> 00:08:11,111 It was very simple. 49 00:08:11,111 --> 00:08:13,320 And so we were there like regular fans, you know, 50 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,495 outside the door of the dressing room, 51 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:18,014 waiting for Frank to come out. 52 00:08:20,016 --> 00:08:22,294 And Frank went out, he was really polite. 53 00:08:22,294 --> 00:08:23,364 And that's the way the friendship 54 00:08:23,364 --> 00:08:26,436 between me and Frank started. 55 00:08:26,436 --> 00:08:30,061 He invited me over to the house, and I was so shy. 56 00:08:30,061 --> 00:08:33,236 - Massimo is not an Italian language instructor. 57 00:08:33,236 --> 00:08:35,066 Massimo is, tell them. 58 00:08:36,895 --> 00:08:39,035 - A live publisher. 59 00:08:39,035 --> 00:08:41,935 - When he came to visit us, 60 00:08:41,935 --> 00:08:45,904 I think the deal was cemented because if your 61 00:08:45,904 --> 00:08:49,321 kids don't run away screaming and your cat doesn't run away 62 00:08:49,321 --> 00:08:53,256 and your dog doesn't growl or attempt to bite them, 63 00:08:53,256 --> 00:08:55,742 then they kind of already passed the test. 64 00:08:55,742 --> 00:09:00,643 - Mingas aren't dirty, unless you don't wash the minga. 65 00:09:00,643 --> 00:09:02,024 But if you ever washed your minga-- 66 00:09:02,024 --> 00:09:05,372 - He brought a special sort of amusement 67 00:09:05,372 --> 00:09:08,375 along with his friendship for Frank. 68 00:09:09,445 --> 00:09:10,895 I mean, Frank was amused. 69 00:09:10,895 --> 00:09:12,552 - This is my last single. 70 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:15,727 That fucking single, that Cuban word. 71 00:09:15,727 --> 00:09:18,696 I was there so many times. 72 00:09:18,696 --> 00:09:20,870 I stayed with the kids, you know. 73 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:23,493 Real kids, small kids, 74 00:09:23,493 --> 00:09:26,496 full of energy, did a lot of things. 75 00:09:27,912 --> 00:09:31,605 - My memories of Massimo are of him visiting the house, 76 00:09:31,605 --> 00:09:34,988 spending time with my father in the basement. 77 00:09:34,988 --> 00:09:36,783 He made my father laugh. 78 00:09:36,783 --> 00:09:40,787 I remember him as an avid nosepicker, of course. 79 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,723 ♪ Are we moving too slow 80 00:09:45,723 --> 00:09:49,865 - To me, as a kid, he was like my dad's gross friend. 81 00:09:49,865 --> 00:09:52,764 But they were like two Italians on a stoop, 82 00:09:52,764 --> 00:09:54,214 like those guys together. 83 00:09:54,214 --> 00:09:57,562 They turned into like a comedy duo. 84 00:09:57,562 --> 00:09:59,599 And again, I just thought I feel like Massimo 85 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:02,256 is leading my father into trouble. 86 00:10:02,256 --> 00:10:04,742 He is a troublemaking friend. 87 00:10:04,742 --> 00:10:08,918 That was my sense of him as a teenager. [laughs] 88 00:10:13,302 --> 00:10:14,544 - Hey man. 89 00:10:14,544 --> 00:10:17,099 ♪ When it's froze 90 00:10:17,099 --> 00:10:21,275 ♪ And it's hard if it hits on your nose 91 00:10:24,658 --> 00:10:27,143 - And I had a chance to see the man working, 92 00:10:27,143 --> 00:10:30,146 the genius working in his own place. 93 00:10:32,424 --> 00:10:35,635 He was a workaholic, he was working hard, 94 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:37,326 very hard, you know. 95 00:10:38,741 --> 00:10:43,643 He was able to stay home for hours, for days, weeks. 96 00:10:43,643 --> 00:10:47,819 ["Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" by Frank Zappa] 97 00:10:48,717 --> 00:10:51,029 ♪ Strictly commercial 98 00:10:51,029 --> 00:10:52,652 ♪ Have the unmitigated audacity 99 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:55,585 ♪ To jump up from behind my igloo 100 00:10:55,585 --> 00:10:57,967 ♪ Peek-a-boo 101 00:10:59,417 --> 00:11:03,283 - When my father was home, he would sleep during the day 102 00:11:04,836 --> 00:11:06,666 and work at night. 103 00:11:06,666 --> 00:11:09,841 So many times it was just putting food trays 104 00:11:09,841 --> 00:11:12,326 on the dumbbell, lowering the food down 105 00:11:12,326 --> 00:11:15,122 to the dungeon, basement where he was working, 106 00:11:15,122 --> 00:11:17,228 and then hearing the music throughout the house. 107 00:11:17,228 --> 00:11:21,404 ["Father O'Blivion" by Frank Zappa] 108 00:11:23,924 --> 00:11:25,167 ♪ Dominus vobiscum 109 00:11:25,167 --> 00:11:26,789 ♪ Et cum spiritu tuo 110 00:11:26,789 --> 00:11:28,308 ♪ Won't you eat my sleazy pancakes 111 00:11:28,308 --> 00:11:30,241 ♪ Just for saintly Alphonzo 112 00:11:30,241 --> 00:11:31,829 ♪ They're so light and fluffy white 113 00:11:31,829 --> 00:11:33,520 ♪ We'll raise a fortune by tonight 114 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,349 ♪ They're so light and fluffy white 115 00:11:35,349 --> 00:11:36,972 ♪ We'll raise a fortune by tonight 116 00:11:36,972 --> 00:11:38,698 ♪ They're so light and fluffy brown 117 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:40,389 ♪ They're the finest in the town 118 00:11:40,389 --> 00:11:41,908 ♪ They're so light and fluffy brown 119 00:11:41,908 --> 00:11:43,357 ♪ They're the finest in the town 120 00:11:43,357 --> 00:11:47,327 - When we would be together at home with him, 121 00:11:47,327 --> 00:11:49,363 in the rare moments when he would come upstairs, 122 00:11:49,363 --> 00:11:52,194 it was like the sun coming out. 123 00:11:52,194 --> 00:11:53,954 - He was one of those people, 124 00:11:53,954 --> 00:11:56,785 you meet a few in your life if you're lucky, 125 00:11:56,785 --> 00:11:59,442 where when they're looking at you, 126 00:11:59,442 --> 00:12:01,237 there's nothing else in the universe. 127 00:12:01,237 --> 00:12:05,621 You feel like, wow, I'm alone here, except for this person 128 00:12:05,621 --> 00:12:08,935 who's looking at me and paying attention to just me. 129 00:12:08,935 --> 00:12:10,143 And Frank was like that. 130 00:12:10,143 --> 00:12:13,111 You would have 100% of his focus. 131 00:12:14,837 --> 00:12:17,564 If you were a munchkin and you were in need, 132 00:12:17,564 --> 00:12:19,808 he was right there for you. 133 00:12:23,604 --> 00:12:28,575 So that's the luxury of being a dad who's out and about. 134 00:12:28,575 --> 00:12:30,301 - [Frank] Why look at me, I'm a family guy. 135 00:12:30,301 --> 00:12:31,509 - [Narrator] When he's not on the road, 136 00:12:31,509 --> 00:12:33,787 Frank Zappa is very close to his wife Gail, 137 00:12:33,787 --> 00:12:37,101 his son Dweezil, and the rest of the four little Zappas. 138 00:12:37,101 --> 00:12:38,343 - Didn't think any of them wanna make music 139 00:12:38,343 --> 00:12:39,413 like I make music, 140 00:12:39,413 --> 00:12:41,968 but Dweezil is a guitar player, 141 00:12:41,968 --> 00:12:43,245 very excellent guitar player, 142 00:12:43,245 --> 00:12:44,971 even though he's only 12 years old. 143 00:12:44,971 --> 00:12:48,422 [mellow electric guitar] 144 00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:28,290 - When I got to spend time with my father, 145 00:13:28,290 --> 00:13:31,086 I didn't feel like the time we spent together 146 00:13:31,086 --> 00:13:33,778 was a distraction from his work. 147 00:13:35,228 --> 00:13:37,264 And a lot of the things that we did 148 00:13:37,264 --> 00:13:39,991 generally were about thinking and 149 00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:46,377 having fun with creative thought processes, 150 00:13:47,930 --> 00:13:50,968 whether it was games with words, 151 00:13:50,968 --> 00:13:53,763 or when I started to get really involved in music, 152 00:13:53,763 --> 00:13:58,044 being able to discuss music and recording, 153 00:13:58,044 --> 00:14:02,013 and the science of sound, and all kinds of things 154 00:14:02,013 --> 00:14:05,430 that were just fascinating subjects, 155 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:07,881 that I'm still interested in today. 156 00:14:07,881 --> 00:14:09,089 - Well, right now we're in the Dublin 157 00:14:09,089 --> 00:14:11,712 shooting another television special. 158 00:14:11,712 --> 00:14:14,336 - So in 1982, I was 14. 159 00:14:14,336 --> 00:14:18,616 And I was frustrated because I had a father who toured 160 00:14:18,616 --> 00:14:20,169 nine months out of the year. 161 00:14:20,169 --> 00:14:22,827 He was gone so very much and so I was really missing 162 00:14:22,827 --> 00:14:25,174 having a dad around. 163 00:14:25,174 --> 00:14:28,868 And so I had written a note and slid it 164 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:31,111 under the studio door basically saying, 165 00:14:31,111 --> 00:14:32,388 hey I've got an idea. 166 00:14:32,388 --> 00:14:33,838 Maybe we should record something together. 167 00:14:33,838 --> 00:14:35,875 That we could get to spend some time together. 168 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:38,912 And so he woke me up one night, he was like okay. 169 00:14:38,912 --> 00:14:41,881 And he brought me down to the studio and he said, 170 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:43,744 "Do that funny voice you do at the dinner table." 171 00:14:43,744 --> 00:14:45,643 Now, enough is enough, okay, 172 00:14:45,643 --> 00:14:47,541 I've like had it up to here, okay. 173 00:14:47,541 --> 00:14:50,717 So like barf out, gag me with a spoon, 174 00:14:52,339 --> 00:14:54,031 get the picture? 175 00:14:54,031 --> 00:14:57,137 ♪ Valley girl, she's a valley girl 176 00:14:57,137 --> 00:15:00,416 ♪ Valley girl, she's a valley girl 177 00:15:00,416 --> 00:15:03,937 ♪ Okay fine, for sure, for sure 178 00:15:03,937 --> 00:15:05,801 ♪ She's a valley girl 179 00:15:05,801 --> 00:15:07,699 ♪ In a clothing store 180 00:15:07,699 --> 00:15:11,807 ♪ Okay fine, for sure, for sure, she's a 181 00:15:11,807 --> 00:15:13,636 ♪ Like oh my God 182 00:15:13,636 --> 00:15:14,706 ♪ Valley girl 183 00:15:14,706 --> 00:15:16,398 ♪ Like totally 184 00:15:16,398 --> 00:15:18,227 ♪ Valley girl 185 00:15:18,227 --> 00:15:20,298 ♪ Encino's like so bitchin' 186 00:15:20,298 --> 00:15:21,748 ♪ Valley girl 187 00:15:21,748 --> 00:15:23,508 ♪ There's like the Galleria 188 00:15:23,508 --> 00:15:25,925 ♪ Valley girl 189 00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:29,480 - Recording "Valley Girl" and then the subsequent success 190 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,242 of that song I think was very strange for me, 191 00:15:34,174 --> 00:15:35,900 and I think also for my father, 192 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:39,317 because all of a sudden he had an AM hit. 193 00:15:39,317 --> 00:15:42,389 And this is not representative 194 00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:44,909 of the total body of his work. 195 00:15:46,324 --> 00:15:47,705 - Well, what's to take seriously? 196 00:15:47,705 --> 00:15:49,707 Because you know that everything that goes on the radio 197 00:15:49,707 --> 00:15:51,536 is destined to go off the radio. 198 00:15:51,536 --> 00:15:55,368 So it goes on, it goes off, big crazy deal. 199 00:15:55,368 --> 00:15:57,818 - And then of course, we had to do many press things 200 00:15:57,818 --> 00:15:59,993 together, so I was excited because I got to travel 201 00:15:59,993 --> 00:16:02,306 with my father and have some photo shoots. 202 00:16:02,306 --> 00:16:04,342 He hated having his photo taken. 203 00:16:04,342 --> 00:16:06,241 And then he left to go on tour. 204 00:16:06,241 --> 00:16:09,658 [upbeat classical music] 205 00:16:31,473 --> 00:16:34,062 - One day Frank called me and he told me, 206 00:16:34,062 --> 00:16:37,341 he said, "They offered me a tour in Italy." 207 00:16:37,341 --> 00:16:40,965 And I say, "Wonderful, it's a great thing." 208 00:16:42,725 --> 00:16:46,660 - In 1982, Frank went on an international tour. 209 00:16:48,421 --> 00:16:51,665 It was a new band, new drummer and a new bass player, 210 00:16:51,665 --> 00:16:53,909 so completely new rhythm section. 211 00:16:53,909 --> 00:16:56,187 They rehearsed so much material. 212 00:16:56,187 --> 00:16:58,741 So it was one of those supergroups of Frank's, 213 00:16:58,741 --> 00:17:00,467 where it was just like they were so mighty 214 00:17:00,467 --> 00:17:02,711 and so strong in that area. 215 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:08,475 And they spent the better half of 1981 216 00:17:09,718 --> 00:17:11,409 touring in the States. 217 00:17:11,409 --> 00:17:15,586 So '82, starting in May, was the international tour. 218 00:17:15,586 --> 00:17:19,831 The Italian visit was the last section of that tour. 219 00:17:19,831 --> 00:17:23,076 - And so they arrive from somewhere in New York to Turin. 220 00:17:23,076 --> 00:17:25,837 Once we were there, at the airport, there was a bus 221 00:17:25,837 --> 00:17:28,047 for the crew, for the band. 222 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,981 And there was no car for Frank. 223 00:17:31,981 --> 00:17:35,778 So he jumped in my car, you know, him and John Smothers, 224 00:17:35,778 --> 00:17:37,159 and that was it. 225 00:17:37,159 --> 00:17:38,678 And then the tour started. 226 00:17:38,678 --> 00:17:39,955 And for the entire tour, 227 00:17:39,955 --> 00:17:42,958 Frank and John was always on my car. 228 00:18:04,428 --> 00:18:08,604 [upbeat electric classical music] 229 00:19:52,570 --> 00:19:55,746 - We play Turin, Milan, Genoa. 230 00:19:55,746 --> 00:19:59,508 We played Pistoia and at the stadium at Pistoia, 231 00:19:59,508 --> 00:20:01,855 we arrived and the guard general, 232 00:20:01,855 --> 00:20:04,789 the stadium didn't know there was a concert tonight, 233 00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:08,552 and he didn't let the crew walk and drive in. 234 00:20:10,485 --> 00:20:13,591 And then we played in Rome, then we played Naples. 235 00:20:13,591 --> 00:20:16,180 And so it was a real adventure. 236 00:20:27,605 --> 00:20:28,882 - It was so nice to be in Italy, 237 00:20:28,882 --> 00:20:31,851 because I grew up Italian-American, 238 00:20:31,851 --> 00:20:33,301 and finally I was there. 239 00:20:33,301 --> 00:20:36,821 And we went to so many places, you know, with two weeks. 240 00:20:36,821 --> 00:20:40,239 And the audiences were huge, really huge. 241 00:20:42,413 --> 00:20:46,141 Tens of thousands of people, much bigger than most places. 242 00:20:46,141 --> 00:20:48,557 And for me, the Italian tour with Frank 243 00:20:48,557 --> 00:20:50,456 is one of the highlights in my career, 244 00:20:50,456 --> 00:20:53,700 because it was the first time in Italy. 245 00:20:54,667 --> 00:20:58,843 [upbeat electric classical music] 246 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:28,839 - The day after Rome was the same days 247 00:21:28,839 --> 00:21:33,395 where the Italian soccer time won the World Championship. 248 00:21:33,395 --> 00:21:37,882 And so it was really strange atmosphere, really electric. 249 00:21:37,882 --> 00:21:41,921 And Frank loved it because all the noise 250 00:21:41,921 --> 00:21:45,304 and he taped it on his recording machine. 251 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:34,353 - So Saturday he say this is a great adventure, 252 00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:37,459 and I wanna make an album from this tour. 253 00:22:37,459 --> 00:22:41,498 So he was asking me about if I knew some Italian artist 254 00:22:41,498 --> 00:22:43,845 to do the cover, because he wanted to put 255 00:22:43,845 --> 00:22:46,123 all experience that he had. 256 00:23:06,764 --> 00:23:09,491 - He loved Ranxerox, the character Ranxerox. 257 00:23:09,491 --> 00:23:13,184 Actually Frank told to Nino that he believed 258 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:16,567 that the power of this drawing was comparable 259 00:23:16,567 --> 00:23:18,569 to Michelangelo drawing. 260 00:23:50,049 --> 00:23:52,361 - And the last show was in Palermo, 261 00:23:52,361 --> 00:23:55,848 you know, the infamous concert in Palermo. 262 00:25:24,281 --> 00:25:26,248 - Hi Tom, welcome to Palermo. 263 00:25:26,248 --> 00:25:28,561 [speaking in a foreign language] 264 00:25:28,561 --> 00:25:30,045 - Why don't you come over and film my discussion 265 00:25:30,045 --> 00:25:31,288 with the taxi driver. 266 00:25:31,288 --> 00:25:33,566 I think this is going to be very eventful. 267 00:25:33,566 --> 00:25:35,257 - All right, this is witness, I'm paying the taxi driver 268 00:25:35,257 --> 00:25:37,536 and Larry has to give me the money, okay. 269 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:38,882 This is on film. 270 00:25:40,021 --> 00:25:43,921 ["Son of Mr. Green Jeans" by Frank Zappa] 271 00:26:00,179 --> 00:26:03,562 - So we ended up in Palermo the last gig of the tour. 272 00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:08,118 And I had this idea of giving Frank a surprise. 273 00:26:08,118 --> 00:26:09,602 And I say, "Frank, what are you doing there? 274 00:26:09,602 --> 00:26:12,191 "Come with me, I drive you around the town, 275 00:26:12,191 --> 00:26:13,433 "and you see Palermo. 276 00:26:13,433 --> 00:26:15,435 "Actually, that's where you come from, 277 00:26:15,435 --> 00:26:17,576 "from Sicily, you're Sicilan." 278 00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:21,718 ["Twenty Small Cigars" by Frank Zappa] 279 00:26:25,514 --> 00:26:28,448 So he agree and I immediately left the town, 280 00:26:28,448 --> 00:26:30,105 took him highway. 281 00:26:30,105 --> 00:26:33,350 So Frank's looking around and say, "Where we going?" 282 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:35,904 I say, "Actually, we're going to Partinico, 283 00:26:35,904 --> 00:26:40,081 "and I wanted to show you the town of your father." 284 00:27:19,672 --> 00:27:22,951 - So we're going to, we're doing the same trip 285 00:27:22,951 --> 00:27:24,573 that we did with Frank. 286 00:27:24,573 --> 00:27:27,715 - Now how did you get Frank to get into the car? 287 00:27:27,715 --> 00:27:29,130 - Yeah, that is a good question. 288 00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:31,235 - Well, there was, it was my charm. 289 00:27:31,235 --> 00:27:32,892 - Yeah, your charm, you got him in there? 290 00:27:32,892 --> 00:27:34,411 - Because I had the idea, I say, 291 00:27:34,411 --> 00:27:36,862 "You wanna see the prison?" 292 00:27:36,862 --> 00:27:38,346 And Frank say, "What are you talking about?" 293 00:27:38,346 --> 00:27:42,143 I say, "Well, you'll love this, I believe you'll love this. 294 00:27:42,143 --> 00:27:46,526 "The main prison of Palermo, the famous Ucciardone. 295 00:27:46,526 --> 00:27:50,738 "The prison where they locked Eldar Mafioso," 296 00:27:50,738 --> 00:27:52,187 and blah blah blah. 297 00:27:52,187 --> 00:27:55,535 And Frank suddenly say, "Okay, let's go." 298 00:27:55,535 --> 00:27:56,744 And he was in the car and he say, 299 00:27:56,744 --> 00:27:58,987 "I can't believe it." - Because normally Frank 300 00:27:58,987 --> 00:28:01,300 didn't wanna to go too many places when he was on tour. 301 00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:02,991 - Yeah right, absolutely. - Pretty much. 302 00:28:02,991 --> 00:28:04,959 - Stay at the hotel, relax. - I can't believe he was 303 00:28:04,959 --> 00:28:07,444 by the pool. - Yeah, that's kind of rare 304 00:28:07,444 --> 00:28:08,963 for him to do, anyway. 305 00:28:08,963 --> 00:28:12,829 - That's why I told you, he was at the pool with the band. 306 00:28:12,829 --> 00:28:14,451 And also, - The south of Italy 307 00:28:14,451 --> 00:28:17,109 was the end of the adventure, is very nice. 308 00:28:17,109 --> 00:28:18,697 in Italy, you know? 309 00:28:20,112 --> 00:28:22,977 - And it was also unusual for a rock band to come and play 310 00:28:22,977 --> 00:28:25,393 in Sicily, right, I mean at that time, 311 00:28:25,393 --> 00:28:29,155 you didn't have things like Frank Zappa playing in. 312 00:28:29,155 --> 00:28:31,675 - Not only, on the 14 of July, 313 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:37,163 it's the anniversary of the saint of the city, 314 00:28:37,163 --> 00:28:38,682 the Santa Rosalia. 315 00:28:40,822 --> 00:28:44,619 [rhythmic military drumming] 316 00:29:50,064 --> 00:29:52,169 - We were, without knowing, in the middle 317 00:29:52,169 --> 00:29:54,931 of one of the worst Mafia battle. 318 00:29:56,311 --> 00:29:58,624 They were killing each other. 319 00:29:58,624 --> 00:30:01,730 [intense horn music] 320 00:30:23,028 --> 00:30:27,653 - Yeah, if you use a computer and you Google Partinico, 321 00:30:27,653 --> 00:30:31,001 criminals come up, and then a picture of Frank as a baby. 322 00:30:31,001 --> 00:30:33,970 - [laughs] Really? 323 00:30:33,970 --> 00:30:38,146 ["Chunga's Revenge" by Frank Zappa] 324 00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:54,956 - Did he ever talk to you about his experience, Frank? 325 00:30:54,956 --> 00:30:58,201 - You know, he never told me the story, 326 00:30:59,719 --> 00:31:03,171 but I had heard, you know, the little bits of legend. 327 00:31:07,796 --> 00:31:10,834 - I can't remember how Frank decided 328 00:31:10,834 --> 00:31:13,147 to spend his time in Sicily. 329 00:31:14,562 --> 00:31:16,529 But Sicily, of course, has special meaning, 330 00:31:16,529 --> 00:31:19,601 because his father is from there. 331 00:31:19,601 --> 00:31:22,604 And it's just a part of his cultural 332 00:31:25,055 --> 00:31:27,644 heritage, and I don't mean in the sense that, you know, 333 00:31:27,644 --> 00:31:28,748 it's in his genes. 334 00:31:28,748 --> 00:31:31,234 I mean in the sense that 335 00:31:31,234 --> 00:31:33,443 the way the world was explained to him 336 00:31:33,443 --> 00:31:37,205 was through the eyes of some Sicilian people. 337 00:31:38,517 --> 00:31:40,450 At least at some point. 338 00:31:42,003 --> 00:31:44,972 It wasn't the only influence, 339 00:31:44,972 --> 00:31:47,181 but certainly it was part of it. 340 00:31:47,181 --> 00:31:51,012 ["Sofa No. 1" by Frank Zappa] 341 00:31:55,292 --> 00:31:57,225 - Here we are. 342 00:31:57,225 --> 00:32:01,333 [speaking in a foreign language] Partinico. 343 00:32:09,237 --> 00:32:13,069 During the Italian tour, it was the only time that Frank 344 00:32:13,069 --> 00:32:15,934 told me a lot about his childhood. 345 00:32:22,906 --> 00:32:25,633 - I remember my father talking about his father coming over 346 00:32:25,633 --> 00:32:29,948 from Italy and having a sense that there was a very big gap 347 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:33,089 between how my grandfather was raised 348 00:32:33,089 --> 00:32:37,265 and how my father was so different than his father. 349 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:41,960 And just how the changes of exposure 350 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:46,585 to another culture continued to 351 00:32:48,414 --> 00:32:51,003 morph and inform you of who you are. 352 00:32:51,003 --> 00:32:54,489 But again, that sense that that was our bloodline, 353 00:32:54,489 --> 00:32:56,975 and that we were Italian. 354 00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:58,597 I mean, we've been claimed by many cultures, 355 00:32:58,597 --> 00:33:01,841 but I definitely self-identify as a Sicilian. 356 00:33:01,841 --> 00:33:04,396 Not just Italian, but Sicilian. 357 00:33:11,817 --> 00:33:15,614 - Most people, when they examine where they came from 358 00:33:15,614 --> 00:33:19,618 or their relatives, like okay, you're Sicilian-American. 359 00:33:19,618 --> 00:33:22,931 What is that about your grandfather, why is he like that, 360 00:33:22,931 --> 00:33:25,003 and how do I fit in somehow? 361 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,970 That's not the kind of a question that Frank Zappa 362 00:33:26,970 --> 00:33:29,421 would ever ask himself. 363 00:33:29,421 --> 00:33:31,492 That's not interesting to him. 364 00:33:31,492 --> 00:33:33,942 What is interesting to him is 365 00:33:35,772 --> 00:33:39,948 how you come by an education by virtue of contrast material. 366 00:33:43,814 --> 00:33:47,646 ["Sofa No. 1" by Frank Zappa] 367 00:33:56,137 --> 00:33:57,414 - So here we are. 368 00:33:57,414 --> 00:34:00,383 I mean, I drove your father and John here. 369 00:34:00,383 --> 00:34:02,523 I think we probably, if I remember well, 370 00:34:02,523 --> 00:34:05,457 we parked over there and went out. 371 00:34:05,457 --> 00:34:08,632 Your father was looking around in sunglasses, 372 00:34:08,632 --> 00:34:12,015 very surprised, just like you are now, 373 00:34:12,015 --> 00:34:13,499 you know, looking around. 374 00:34:13,499 --> 00:34:16,502 - Just the way Massimo tells the story is so funny, anyway. 375 00:34:16,502 --> 00:34:20,058 So for us to experience it and know that they went 376 00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:24,786 into this place and probably seemed like complete, 377 00:34:24,786 --> 00:34:27,306 you know, aliens from another planet to the people 378 00:34:27,306 --> 00:34:29,722 in town at that time. 379 00:34:29,722 --> 00:34:31,414 - Nobody was here, nobody. 380 00:34:31,414 --> 00:34:33,485 And Frank look around and, 381 00:34:33,485 --> 00:34:37,075 no, John Smothers look up and say, "It's a ghost town." 382 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:40,285 I tell us, "Don't worry everybody's behind the shades, 383 00:34:40,285 --> 00:34:42,425 "watching us." - All these shutters. 384 00:34:42,425 --> 00:34:43,598 - Yeah right. 385 00:34:43,598 --> 00:34:46,222 They still shut down, you see? 386 00:34:46,222 --> 00:34:48,983 But there are people behind there watching us. 387 00:34:48,983 --> 00:34:51,019 And then we moved to the bar down there. 388 00:34:51,019 --> 00:34:52,090 It was the only bar. 389 00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:53,850 Didn't look like this. 390 00:34:53,850 --> 00:34:57,336 - I know it was probably different when my dad visited, 391 00:34:57,336 --> 00:35:00,236 but it was just great to see that here's this town, 392 00:35:00,236 --> 00:35:04,205 still with its own personality in a modern time, 393 00:35:04,205 --> 00:35:07,588 but it's almost a town where time stood still 394 00:35:07,588 --> 00:35:09,900 for Partinico, you know. 395 00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,627 I liked that people were coming to the fountain 396 00:35:12,627 --> 00:35:16,597 with their plastic jugs to fill their water. 397 00:35:16,597 --> 00:35:20,773 That, to me, was remarkable that that's happening now. 398 00:35:22,016 --> 00:35:24,398 - Your father was here, we took a coffee here. 399 00:35:24,398 --> 00:35:26,227 And there was a phone booth here. 400 00:35:26,227 --> 00:35:28,505 I believe there was a phone booth there. 401 00:35:28,505 --> 00:35:30,369 And we checked the phone book. 402 00:35:30,369 --> 00:35:31,784 - Looking for Zappa. 403 00:35:31,784 --> 00:35:33,407 - Looking for Zappa. 404 00:35:33,407 --> 00:35:35,478 I was really on the name, you know, 405 00:35:35,478 --> 00:35:37,480 trying to find some relatives of him, 406 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,723 but he didn't know anybody. 407 00:35:49,388 --> 00:35:51,149 So we saw the town. 408 00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:53,772 And Frank make a question. 409 00:35:53,772 --> 00:35:57,155 "I would like to know how in the beginning of the century, 410 00:35:57,155 --> 00:36:01,228 "my father was able to leave from here and hit New York." 411 00:36:02,988 --> 00:36:06,647 [gentle instrumental music] 412 00:36:16,967 --> 00:36:19,901 - There was this ceremony that the town set up 413 00:36:19,901 --> 00:36:21,386 in the mayor's office. 414 00:36:21,386 --> 00:36:24,975 And we weren't really sure what was going to happen 415 00:36:24,975 --> 00:36:26,184 when we went there. 416 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:28,634 We told that there was a bit of a surprise. 417 00:36:28,634 --> 00:36:31,189 Here's the mayor, who's dressed 418 00:36:32,742 --> 00:36:35,400 in like a very slick black suit, 419 00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:39,990 kind of shiny, almost Miami Vice. 420 00:36:50,863 --> 00:36:52,520 - Thank you so much. 421 00:37:07,363 --> 00:37:08,709 - Down this way? 422 00:37:15,647 --> 00:37:17,476 So this is the street. 423 00:37:18,477 --> 00:37:20,238 This was, number 13? 424 00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:21,687 Go check on that. 425 00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:29,005 Can't really, no doorknob. 426 00:37:32,629 --> 00:37:33,561 Hello? 427 00:37:33,561 --> 00:37:34,735 - It's such a small space. 428 00:37:34,735 --> 00:37:37,220 It's the size of a shoe, like the shoe box, 429 00:37:37,220 --> 00:37:41,328 like so small of a space that they left it. 430 00:37:41,328 --> 00:37:42,708 It's incredible. 431 00:37:42,708 --> 00:37:46,056 I don't even have words to explain what, 432 00:37:48,231 --> 00:37:50,716 what seeing that was for me. 433 00:37:50,716 --> 00:37:52,028 - [Diva] There's a water bottle in there. 434 00:37:52,028 --> 00:37:53,271 - There's a water bottle in there. 435 00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:56,998 - [Diva] And what looks like a nitrogen like... 436 00:37:56,998 --> 00:37:58,483 [woman speaking in a foreign language] 437 00:37:58,483 --> 00:38:00,899 - A butane tank or something? 438 00:38:00,899 --> 00:38:02,521 - [Diva] But it's like, it looks like a-- 439 00:38:02,521 --> 00:38:03,557 - Is there a kitchen? 440 00:38:03,557 --> 00:38:04,489 - [Diva] But it's not, no. 441 00:38:04,489 --> 00:38:05,352 - You don't see a kitchen? 442 00:38:05,352 --> 00:38:07,423 - [Diva] Well, now, no. 443 00:38:07,423 --> 00:38:11,289 - To see this place, see that they walked out of this door 444 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:13,808 and got on a boat to go to America, 445 00:38:13,808 --> 00:38:15,534 it's a crazy journey. 446 00:38:18,779 --> 00:38:22,955 I thought about could I right now leave my whole life 447 00:38:24,612 --> 00:38:27,926 and go to some other place with nothing 448 00:38:27,926 --> 00:38:32,551 and rebuild a life with having to learn a new language, 449 00:38:32,551 --> 00:38:36,728 and maybe not be able to use the skill you already know. 450 00:38:37,591 --> 00:38:39,524 Could I do it, I don't know. 451 00:38:39,524 --> 00:38:44,114 I mean, that's a heroic effort for anyone to do. 452 00:38:44,114 --> 00:38:47,739 But now you reverse time and you think about it 453 00:38:47,739 --> 00:38:50,914 in terms of the uncertainty of travel, 454 00:38:51,812 --> 00:38:53,641 how did anybody do it? 455 00:38:55,056 --> 00:38:59,233 ["Peaches en Regalia" by Frank Zappa] 456 00:39:44,105 --> 00:39:46,176 - So, on the way back from Partinico, 457 00:39:46,176 --> 00:39:49,352 we went straight to the Favorita, to the city. 458 00:39:49,352 --> 00:39:50,836 There was no organization. 459 00:39:50,836 --> 00:39:54,530 There was no security waiting for artists and everything. 460 00:39:54,530 --> 00:39:58,706 So we have to walk with the car inside the Favorita. 461 00:40:00,777 --> 00:40:04,022 - [Man] How do I get, knock right here. 462 00:40:06,473 --> 00:40:10,649 ["Peaches en Regalia" by Frank Zappa] 463 00:40:29,668 --> 00:40:31,256 - That's old. - Aw man, I wish I could 464 00:40:31,256 --> 00:40:32,844 have seen it. 465 00:40:32,844 --> 00:40:34,984 - Yeah, but I'll tell you one thing was really amazing. 466 00:40:34,984 --> 00:40:37,711 We stopped to get a cup of coffee 467 00:40:37,711 --> 00:40:41,646 at this place called the Tropical Bar. 468 00:40:41,646 --> 00:40:43,371 Desolation, right? 469 00:40:43,371 --> 00:40:46,133 They've got a room with video games. 470 00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:49,619 I mean, like five of these things all going full blast. 471 00:40:49,619 --> 00:40:51,276 The town doesn't have enough water. 472 00:40:51,276 --> 00:40:53,830 The streets are all rocks. 473 00:40:53,830 --> 00:40:58,007 This is the city where the guy, the Mafia boss of New York, 474 00:40:58,973 --> 00:41:01,148 is from there. - Originally? 475 00:41:02,321 --> 00:41:04,807 - Maybe he still lives there and runs the world 476 00:41:04,807 --> 00:41:06,084 from this place. 477 00:41:06,084 --> 00:41:08,466 And when you see it, if you ever see it, 478 00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:12,504 you cannot imagine how anybody could even get out of there. 479 00:41:12,504 --> 00:41:15,369 It's just total trash and rubbish. 480 00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:20,236 - [Man] Are there any traces of your family still there? 481 00:41:20,236 --> 00:41:23,308 - No, we looked in the phone book, there's nothing. 482 00:41:23,308 --> 00:41:26,242 - [Man] Of course, there might not be anything. 483 00:41:26,242 --> 00:41:29,245 - Yeah, maybe they have an unlisted number. 484 00:41:29,245 --> 00:41:30,142 - Play in a dumpster. 485 00:41:30,142 --> 00:41:31,385 - Oh, it was a dumpster. 486 00:41:31,385 --> 00:41:34,561 The streets were like, no pavement. 487 00:41:34,561 --> 00:41:36,735 - Fourth world. - Yeah, fourth world. 488 00:41:36,735 --> 00:41:39,600 - Fifth world. - Last world. 489 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,017 - Eh, they're all having a good time. 490 00:41:43,017 --> 00:41:45,399 Okay, let's do soundcheck. 491 00:41:45,399 --> 00:41:46,365 Is Vince ready? 492 00:41:46,365 --> 00:41:48,644 - Yeah [mumbles]. 493 00:41:48,644 --> 00:41:52,302 - The footage reveals a lot of the setup. 494 00:41:52,302 --> 00:41:55,823 So you get a general vibe about how everybody was feeling 495 00:41:55,823 --> 00:41:57,100 at that time. 496 00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:58,377 It was the last show of the tour. 497 00:41:58,377 --> 00:42:00,069 It was a nice sunny day, the weather was good. 498 00:42:00,069 --> 00:42:01,622 It was an exciting feeling around there. 499 00:42:01,622 --> 00:42:03,762 The band was onstage and they were playing, 500 00:42:03,762 --> 00:42:05,695 and everyone's kind of in a good moods. 501 00:42:05,695 --> 00:42:08,215 And then they start playing in the sound check, 502 00:42:08,215 --> 00:42:09,699 and that all goes well. 503 00:42:09,699 --> 00:42:12,875 And the prospect of having Massimo come on stage that night 504 00:42:12,875 --> 00:42:15,740 and play was a biggie and that was fun. 505 00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:20,468 - Maybe Frank's, maybe Frank's wants you camera me 506 00:42:20,468 --> 00:42:23,161 about I don't know exactly what. 507 00:42:23,161 --> 00:42:27,475 Maybe he wants some better Italian expression to tell. 508 00:42:27,475 --> 00:42:29,201 I don't know. - Oh yeah, yeah, we'll do it 509 00:42:29,201 --> 00:42:31,100 before the show. - Yeah. 510 00:42:33,999 --> 00:42:37,002 [upbeat rock music] 511 00:42:40,765 --> 00:42:42,629 - The Italian language is famous for bad words. 512 00:42:42,629 --> 00:42:45,459 He was fascinated by Italian bad words. 513 00:42:45,459 --> 00:42:49,497 He wanted to know all of the bad words. 514 00:42:49,497 --> 00:42:52,466 So when we were going to Palermo he asked me, 515 00:42:52,466 --> 00:42:54,433 "So what are the bad words of Palermo?" 516 00:42:54,433 --> 00:42:56,850 And I told him that the king of the bad words, 517 00:42:56,850 --> 00:43:00,060 of Palermo, of course, minchia. 518 00:43:00,060 --> 00:43:03,546 And he laughed and he loved the way the words sounds, 519 00:43:03,546 --> 00:43:05,859 and he was repeating himself. 520 00:43:05,859 --> 00:43:10,035 So he had the idea, immediately he called me up and say, 521 00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:12,935 "Now that we're doing the sound check, 522 00:43:12,935 --> 00:43:15,593 "can you write some lyrics with the minchia word 523 00:43:15,593 --> 00:43:19,044 "on the songs that we use, on the music that we use 524 00:43:19,044 --> 00:43:22,600 "for the soundcheck for the warmup, to warm up the band?" 525 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,603 That's the way that Tengo na Minchia Tanta was born. 526 00:43:25,603 --> 00:43:29,745 ["Tengo na Minchia Tanta" by Frank Zappa] 527 00:43:56,116 --> 00:43:59,498 - The soundcheck with Frank was always interesting, 528 00:43:59,498 --> 00:44:02,122 because he's always doing something, writing something, 529 00:44:02,122 --> 00:44:03,779 recording something. 530 00:44:05,850 --> 00:44:08,197 - That's the other reason this also explains, 531 00:44:08,197 --> 00:44:12,097 when you see this, you'll understand why he chose Massimo 532 00:44:12,097 --> 00:44:14,824 out of the millions of Italians he could have picked, 533 00:44:14,824 --> 00:44:17,275 go on the stage and make an announcement, 534 00:44:17,275 --> 00:44:19,380 because Massimo was going to perform with them. 535 00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:21,693 And he didn't get his chance. 536 00:44:21,693 --> 00:44:24,282 So this is as close as he gets. 537 00:44:27,216 --> 00:44:30,702 [cheering and applauding] 538 00:44:32,911 --> 00:44:34,188 - [Man] What's this called? 539 00:44:34,188 --> 00:44:36,950 - It says I have a big bunch of dick. 540 00:44:38,986 --> 00:44:40,988 - I started in '77 with Frank, 541 00:44:40,988 --> 00:44:42,680 so that was my first intimate 542 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,683 big-time rock-n-roll event period. 543 00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:49,894 And then when we came to Italy, in particular, 544 00:44:49,894 --> 00:44:52,862 it was, this is again way back in time, 545 00:44:52,862 --> 00:44:55,554 so it was new, big rock-n-roll shows and stuff, 546 00:44:55,554 --> 00:44:59,006 as he then played out in Palermo to a, 547 00:44:59,006 --> 00:45:01,940 it wasn't really a standard routine 548 00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:04,356 to put on a show like that. 549 00:45:04,356 --> 00:45:06,565 And Frank had his own sounds, his own lights. 550 00:45:06,565 --> 00:45:11,260 Plus to see other countries' crews to deal with this 551 00:45:11,260 --> 00:45:13,952 and adapt to a big show like that, 552 00:45:13,952 --> 00:45:16,299 that's, I think, why all the confusion happened. 553 00:45:16,299 --> 00:45:19,061 Though I was filming it and Joe Travers told me 554 00:45:19,061 --> 00:45:21,684 that there's a lot of footage, 555 00:45:21,684 --> 00:45:23,168 he mentioned it to me. 556 00:45:23,168 --> 00:45:25,550 He said, "Oh, I want to see it hopefully one day." 557 00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:27,103 - One, two, three, four. 558 00:45:27,103 --> 00:45:31,176 ["No, No Cherry" by Frank Zappa] 559 00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:34,766 ♪ Well, I found out baby 560 00:45:34,766 --> 00:45:37,217 ♪ You told me a great big lie 561 00:45:37,217 --> 00:45:38,701 - I got onstage and I looked out 562 00:45:38,701 --> 00:45:42,187 and there was more people than I've ever seen in my life, 563 00:45:42,187 --> 00:45:44,431 ever, in one place. 564 00:45:44,431 --> 00:45:46,088 And it was a big soccer stadium. 565 00:45:46,088 --> 00:45:48,504 And they were all lined up. 566 00:45:48,504 --> 00:45:52,680 ["Outrage at Valdez" by Frank Zappa] 567 00:47:12,277 --> 00:47:14,901 - What happened at the gig in Palermo, 568 00:47:14,901 --> 00:47:17,144 at that time we did not know. 569 00:47:17,144 --> 00:47:21,321 ["The Mammy Anthem" by Frank Zappa] 570 00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:26,844 So the only thing that we knew that the stage 571 00:47:26,844 --> 00:47:30,399 was very strange, because they set the stage 572 00:47:30,399 --> 00:47:32,642 in the middle of the field. 573 00:47:56,459 --> 00:47:57,840 - [Joe] Oh they noticed it. 574 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,324 There you go, look. - They could probably hear it. 575 00:47:59,324 --> 00:48:00,360 - [Joe] See, that's the beginning 576 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,569 of the concert right there. 577 00:48:13,166 --> 00:48:14,892 - We couldn't really see that was going on, 578 00:48:14,892 --> 00:48:18,412 but we see some movement or something. 579 00:48:18,412 --> 00:48:19,724 - And we were very high. 580 00:48:19,724 --> 00:48:22,002 The stage was very high off the ground. 581 00:48:22,002 --> 00:48:25,109 All of a sudden, somebody got over the barrier, 582 00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:26,904 and they ran up to the front of the stage. 583 00:48:26,904 --> 00:48:28,491 And you know, I'm looking down at them, 584 00:48:28,491 --> 00:48:30,459 and they were just one little person there going, 585 00:48:30,459 --> 00:48:34,635 "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hi, I'm here, I made it." 586 00:48:40,193 --> 00:48:44,680 - [Joe] I wonder why they wouldn't let them in the field. 587 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,407 - It was a wrong setting, to begin with. 588 00:48:47,407 --> 00:48:49,271 I guess they wanted to save the lawn. 589 00:48:49,271 --> 00:48:50,997 But that's how it all happened. 590 00:48:50,997 --> 00:48:53,344 That's how it all went down. 591 00:49:09,325 --> 00:49:12,950 - And the guards beat the shit out of them. 592 00:49:14,054 --> 00:49:18,024 ["The Mammy Anthem" by Frank Zappa] 593 00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:14,528 - Hello. 594 00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:19,016 Welcome to the last show 595 00:50:21,846 --> 00:50:24,021 of the last European tour. 596 00:50:25,712 --> 00:50:27,196 - You can actually tell what's going on, 597 00:50:27,196 --> 00:50:28,784 because you as you see, when Frank goes out 598 00:50:28,784 --> 00:50:31,683 onto the stage, I'm so used to seeing this kind of footage 599 00:50:31,683 --> 00:50:32,995 from being at a concert. 600 00:50:32,995 --> 00:50:36,240 And the sound of the audience comes up. 601 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,312 And it's got a special quality to it. 602 00:50:42,487 --> 00:50:46,319 And when Frank goes out onto the stage, 603 00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:47,630 the sound is different. 604 00:50:47,630 --> 00:50:49,460 You know right away something is wrong. 605 00:50:49,460 --> 00:50:52,325 You can sense it, you can see it in their gait. 606 00:50:52,325 --> 00:50:54,603 In Frank's gait I can see it. 607 00:50:54,603 --> 00:50:57,847 There's something going on out there. 608 00:50:57,847 --> 00:50:59,090 - Scott Thunes. 609 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,508 Steve Vai. 610 00:51:06,132 --> 00:51:09,825 And our special guest star, Massimo Bassoli. 611 00:51:11,309 --> 00:51:12,931 Are you ready? 612 00:51:12,931 --> 00:51:13,760 I hope so. 613 00:51:15,175 --> 00:51:19,179 ["Dancin' Fool" by Frank Zappa] 614 00:51:22,389 --> 00:51:23,666 - And then of course when you realize 615 00:51:23,666 --> 00:51:25,875 they can't see anything. 616 00:51:25,875 --> 00:51:30,121 They have no idea if there's five people or 10,000 people. 617 00:51:30,121 --> 00:51:31,329 ♪ One of my legs is shorter than the other 618 00:51:31,329 --> 00:51:32,848 ♪ And both my feet's too long 619 00:51:32,848 --> 00:51:34,091 ♪ Course now right along with them 620 00:51:34,091 --> 00:51:35,851 ♪ I got no natural rhythm 621 00:51:35,851 --> 00:51:37,439 ♪ But I go dancin' every night 622 00:51:37,439 --> 00:51:40,476 ♪ Hopin' one day I might get it right 623 00:51:40,476 --> 00:51:43,721 ♪ Dancin' fool 624 00:51:43,721 --> 00:51:46,551 ♪ Dancin' fool 625 00:51:46,551 --> 00:51:49,106 ♪ Dancin' fool 626 00:51:50,348 --> 00:51:52,937 ♪ Dancin' fool 627 00:51:59,978 --> 00:52:02,498 ♪ Dancin' fool 628 00:52:09,126 --> 00:52:10,196 ♪ The disco folks all dress up 629 00:52:10,196 --> 00:52:11,783 ♪ Like they's fit to kill 630 00:52:11,783 --> 00:52:13,060 ♪ Walk on in and see them there 631 00:52:13,060 --> 00:52:16,995 ♪ Gonna give them all a thrill 632 00:52:34,806 --> 00:52:37,982 ♪ He's a dancing fool 633 00:52:54,757 --> 00:52:57,588 ♪ Chop a line now 634 00:53:01,281 --> 00:53:04,629 ♪ Cocaine decision 635 00:53:04,629 --> 00:53:08,150 ♪ You are a person with a snow job 636 00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:12,603 ♪ You got a fancy gotta go job 637 00:53:12,603 --> 00:53:15,778 ♪ Where the cocaine decisions that you make today 638 00:53:15,778 --> 00:53:19,506 ♪ Will mean a million somewhere else 639 00:53:19,506 --> 00:53:22,268 ♪ We'll do it your way 640 00:53:22,268 --> 00:53:25,271 ♪ Cocaine decisions 641 00:53:29,689 --> 00:53:33,969 ♪ You are a person not in my class 642 00:53:33,969 --> 00:53:37,731 - They had the armed forces, the National Guard, 643 00:53:37,731 --> 00:53:41,839 with shields and guns around the whole perimeter. 644 00:53:44,428 --> 00:53:48,604 ♪ I don't wanna know about the things that you pull 645 00:53:57,475 --> 00:54:00,547 ♪ What you say affects my heart in such a way 646 00:54:00,547 --> 00:54:04,068 - And then suddenly we start hearing sounds, 647 00:54:04,068 --> 00:54:05,483 rumors, or riots. 648 00:54:07,071 --> 00:54:10,074 - They have no idea what's going on. 649 00:54:17,012 --> 00:54:20,222 ♪ Cocaine decisions 650 00:54:20,222 --> 00:54:23,225 ♪ Cocaine decisions 651 00:54:31,958 --> 00:54:34,788 [tear gas firing] 652 00:54:37,964 --> 00:54:42,209 - And this is what you see from the stage, nothing. 653 00:54:42,209 --> 00:54:43,694 Just a black hole. 654 00:54:48,043 --> 00:54:50,873 [tear gas firing] 655 00:54:51,978 --> 00:54:53,497 ♪ Cocaine decisions 656 00:54:53,497 --> 00:54:57,259 ♪ You are a doctor or a lawyer 657 00:54:57,259 --> 00:55:02,091 ♪ You got an office with a foyer 658 00:55:02,091 --> 00:55:04,922 [tear gas firing] 659 00:55:13,448 --> 00:55:16,796 ♪ Cocaine decisions 660 00:55:16,796 --> 00:55:20,696 ♪ You are a movie business guy 661 00:55:25,149 --> 00:55:28,325 - They just, they overreacted, really. 662 00:55:30,327 --> 00:55:32,812 ♪ To Acapulco 663 00:55:33,882 --> 00:55:34,917 ♪ Where all your friends go 664 00:55:34,917 --> 00:55:36,678 - Massimo, come here. 665 00:55:38,093 --> 00:55:41,855 Yeah, bring the band on down behind me, boys. 666 00:56:12,714 --> 00:56:15,544 [tear gas firing] 667 00:56:20,998 --> 00:56:24,208 - Now listen, we want to continue the concert. 668 00:56:24,208 --> 00:56:27,245 We want to keep playing music. 669 00:56:27,245 --> 00:56:29,247 Will you please be calm? 670 00:56:30,387 --> 00:56:33,528 Sit down and relax so we can play music. 671 00:56:56,620 --> 00:57:00,209 ["Nig Biz" by Frank Zappa] 672 00:57:09,978 --> 00:57:12,946 ♪ I signed on the line 673 00:57:12,946 --> 00:57:16,329 ♪ For seven long years 674 00:57:16,329 --> 00:57:18,055 - [Moon] And you can see how stressful 675 00:57:18,055 --> 00:57:19,850 and how scared he must have been. 676 00:57:19,850 --> 00:57:21,299 - [Gail] But he's also thinking about the audience. 677 00:57:21,299 --> 00:57:22,680 - Of course. - Because if they start 678 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,406 running, they're gonna die out there, 679 00:57:24,406 --> 00:57:25,856 whether they're hit by bullets 680 00:57:25,856 --> 00:57:28,790 or whether they just trip over and get trampled to death. 681 00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:30,723 - You know he's just so 682 00:57:30,723 --> 00:57:32,000 in the moment, - Well, he was like a Gandhi. 683 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,553 and on the case. 684 00:57:33,553 --> 00:57:35,141 ♪ I could smoke 685 00:57:35,141 --> 00:57:38,351 ♪ But now I'm beat up and broke 686 00:57:38,351 --> 00:57:41,527 ♪ They said I oughta re-record 687 00:57:41,527 --> 00:57:45,289 ♪ The tracks of my tears 688 00:57:45,289 --> 00:57:48,879 ♪ They said hey this is it 689 00:57:50,605 --> 00:57:53,297 ♪ It's gonna be a big hit 690 00:57:53,297 --> 00:57:56,956 ♪ With my name up in lights 691 00:58:07,035 --> 00:58:10,452 ♪ Nig biznis, nig biznis 692 00:58:11,902 --> 00:58:16,527 - The policemen was shooting tear gas inside the stadium. 693 00:58:16,527 --> 00:58:18,943 And the people in the stadium watching the show 694 00:58:18,943 --> 00:58:23,258 was taking the tear gas and send it back to them. 695 00:58:23,258 --> 00:58:26,261 ♪ Has brought disaster 696 00:58:26,261 --> 00:58:30,023 ♪ On this poor heart of mine 697 00:58:33,993 --> 00:58:37,410 - Right now's the time to play the blues. 698 00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:42,449 - And then when the tear gas would continue 699 00:58:42,449 --> 00:58:46,419 around the stadium, the people that were here 700 00:58:46,419 --> 00:58:49,422 were all in a panic and running. 701 00:58:49,422 --> 00:58:52,977 And it came all the way around and finally it hit the stage. 702 00:58:52,977 --> 00:58:56,325 Now I don't know if you've ever felt tear gas, 703 00:58:56,325 --> 00:58:58,535 but it's very unpleasant. 704 00:58:58,535 --> 00:59:01,538 And I was, [choking], you know 705 00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:04,126 and starting to tear and choke. 706 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,139 [people screaming] 707 01:01:12,358 --> 01:01:17,121 - I think what happened in Palermo is just not so uncommon 708 01:01:17,121 --> 01:01:21,056 in those times, especially with the governments 709 01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:25,682 being what they are from time to time, 710 01:01:25,682 --> 01:01:28,754 and those attitudes extending down to people 711 01:01:28,754 --> 01:01:33,620 who are employed by the state, and also carry guns. 712 01:01:33,620 --> 01:01:37,763 And fortunately, I don't think anybody died from that event. 713 01:01:47,255 --> 01:01:48,256 - Ray White. 714 01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:50,707 Tommy Mars. 715 01:01:51,846 --> 01:01:53,123 Chad Wackerman. 716 01:01:54,711 --> 01:01:55,539 Ed Mann. 717 01:01:56,782 --> 01:01:58,438 Bobby Martin. 718 01:01:58,438 --> 01:01:59,785 Scott Thunes. 719 01:01:59,785 --> 01:02:00,855 Steve Vai. 720 01:02:00,855 --> 01:02:02,097 Thomas Nordegg. 721 01:02:02,097 --> 01:02:03,616 Thanks for coming to the concert. 722 01:02:03,616 --> 01:02:06,723 Hope you liked it, have a good night. 723 01:02:14,972 --> 01:02:19,252 - [Gail] So that's the premature ending of the show. 724 01:02:19,252 --> 01:02:22,669 - [Joe] We're an hour and six minutes in. 725 01:02:26,812 --> 01:02:30,677 - We just got off and a complete riot broke out. 726 01:02:30,677 --> 01:02:34,543 And we were backstage and there was complete chaos. 727 01:02:34,543 --> 01:02:36,097 - Come on. 728 01:02:36,097 --> 01:02:39,100 - All they're giving me is one drop. 729 01:02:41,688 --> 01:02:43,035 Whoops, missed. 730 01:02:43,035 --> 01:02:45,831 - So yeah, there's crazy mayhem going on. 731 01:02:45,831 --> 01:02:48,626 The concert's over, they can't leave. 732 01:02:48,626 --> 01:02:50,870 So they're stuck there. 733 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:55,047 - Massimo, [words drowned out by crowd] 734 01:02:58,050 --> 01:02:59,568 - He's so stressed still. 735 01:02:59,568 --> 01:03:03,434 He's like what do we do with the time in the bunker. 736 01:03:03,434 --> 01:03:06,265 - [Frank] Italian language lesson. 737 01:03:08,646 --> 01:03:11,718 This is the desk of an Italian-- 738 01:03:11,718 --> 01:03:13,962 - This is just how friendships are built. 739 01:03:13,962 --> 01:03:16,344 Massimo and Frank in the trenches together, 740 01:03:16,344 --> 01:03:17,966 this is what happened. 741 01:03:17,966 --> 01:03:21,487 This is certainly the basis for an ongoing 742 01:03:24,490 --> 01:03:27,251 you know, sort of respect. 743 01:03:27,251 --> 01:03:28,874 - I just want you to, 744 01:03:28,874 --> 01:03:32,705 just like this was a real language school, 745 01:03:32,705 --> 01:03:34,776 somebody has just paid a lot of money to come here 746 01:03:34,776 --> 01:03:36,640 to learn how to speak Italian, 747 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,815 and this is an Italian language school, 748 01:03:38,815 --> 01:03:39,781 give them the works. 749 01:03:39,781 --> 01:03:41,369 You guys back out of the way. 750 01:03:41,369 --> 01:03:42,715 Before we go on. 751 01:03:46,132 --> 01:03:48,721 - The first important words that you have to understand 752 01:03:48,721 --> 01:03:52,863 of the Italian language is [speaking in a foreign language]. 753 01:03:55,176 --> 01:03:59,352 That means [speaking in a foreign language]. 754 01:04:02,908 --> 01:04:06,739 - This is not the first time that Frank has been threatened. 755 01:04:06,739 --> 01:04:10,639 And this is maybe because they're firing guns out there. 756 01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:13,228 But the reason why he had the vest in the first place 757 01:04:13,228 --> 01:04:16,922 is from death threats. - For threats, yeah. 758 01:04:16,922 --> 01:04:20,995 - But this is the occupational hazard of rock-n-roll 759 01:04:20,995 --> 01:04:23,342 for anyone who is political. 760 01:04:23,342 --> 01:04:25,413 - They won't stop shooting those tear gases 761 01:04:25,413 --> 01:04:26,414 at the kids. 762 01:04:27,587 --> 01:04:29,141 Before they shoot, you gotta have the boys 763 01:04:29,141 --> 01:04:31,350 throw rocks back at them. 764 01:04:31,350 --> 01:04:35,526 [conversation drowned out in the room echo] 765 01:04:42,879 --> 01:04:46,848 They're shooting at them and now they're loading, 766 01:04:46,848 --> 01:04:48,815 they're caught being shooting back. 767 01:04:48,815 --> 01:04:52,819 - [Frank] That means I have to get my zipper in. 768 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,376 [fireworks exploding] 769 01:06:32,747 --> 01:06:35,681 - It's a big one, it's all the way. 770 01:06:37,234 --> 01:06:39,926 The rainbow, close to the rocks. 771 01:06:43,171 --> 01:06:46,002 - Sicilia to me opens a doorway to 772 01:06:48,349 --> 01:06:52,008 all the things that I remember Frank saying 773 01:06:52,008 --> 01:06:56,012 about his family and how they felt about Sicily. 774 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,947 Frank's father was always telling him 775 01:07:00,947 --> 01:07:05,021 that all of these inventions, they were from everywhere, 776 01:07:05,021 --> 01:07:07,023 were invented in Sicily. 777 01:07:07,023 --> 01:07:10,198 That there would be nothing of culture anywhere 778 01:07:10,198 --> 01:07:14,099 in the entire universe, were it not for Sicily. 779 01:07:16,584 --> 01:07:19,345 Hearing this when he was a child 780 01:07:19,345 --> 01:07:22,279 has to have opened a window for him to say, 781 01:07:22,279 --> 01:07:24,971 "Ah, I will fly through here. 782 01:07:24,971 --> 01:07:29,493 "And even though I am small and insignificant 783 01:07:29,493 --> 01:07:31,599 "and isolated like Isola, 784 01:07:33,083 --> 01:07:36,983 "I can do things that no one else can do." 785 01:07:36,983 --> 01:07:41,126 [laughing] [quirky music] 786 01:07:49,513 --> 01:07:53,690 So now I come here and you know what, I believe it. 787 01:07:58,695 --> 01:08:01,801 [audience applauding] 788 01:08:07,531 --> 01:08:11,052 [upbeat orchestral music] 789 01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:56,477 - In Frank's career, he took a very difficult path 790 01:08:57,616 --> 01:08:59,894 to do what he wanted to do. 791 01:09:01,723 --> 01:09:04,209 A very singular maverick style 792 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,246 of doing what he did. 793 01:09:08,489 --> 01:09:12,078 And I can recognize that people from Sicily 794 01:09:15,427 --> 01:09:18,740 definitely have that sort of independence 795 01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:21,157 and creative thought process. 796 01:09:54,190 --> 01:09:57,641 I think there is a bit of that Sicilian history 797 01:09:57,641 --> 01:10:01,714 within our family, whether we are cognizant 798 01:10:01,714 --> 01:10:03,164 of it coming out. 799 01:10:04,993 --> 01:10:08,480 I think it's more apparent when we're here. 800 01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:12,242 I mean, even just meeting the relatives we had here, 801 01:10:12,242 --> 01:10:13,105 there are 802 01:10:14,762 --> 01:10:18,938 certain things that we learned in talking with them. 803 01:10:27,809 --> 01:10:28,810 Last name Zappa. 804 01:10:28,810 --> 01:10:30,881 - His last name is Zappa. 805 01:10:41,789 --> 01:10:45,275 - Not only do we find a whole bunch of Zappas 806 01:10:45,275 --> 01:10:49,452 that are, in many ways, characteristic of the family 807 01:10:50,418 --> 01:10:52,662 that I thought I was looking for. 808 01:10:52,662 --> 01:10:55,527 You know, they are so not like the family I came from, 809 01:10:55,527 --> 01:10:58,461 so not like the family that Frank came from, 810 01:10:58,461 --> 01:11:02,879 but they are very representative of a true family spirit. 811 01:11:02,879 --> 01:11:07,228 And they were here in Sicily, which is so crazy. 812 01:11:07,228 --> 01:11:09,713 - Wow! - This is, this is-- 813 01:11:09,713 --> 01:11:11,646 - The facial hair, wow! 814 01:11:18,135 --> 01:11:19,896 - [Massimo] This is the brother of your grandfather. 815 01:11:19,896 --> 01:11:23,796 - Look at the hair, the mustache, it's amazing. 816 01:11:26,627 --> 01:11:30,803 - My memories of my paternal grandparents are very strange. 817 01:11:32,011 --> 01:11:34,945 I remember them as small people in a small house 818 01:11:34,945 --> 01:11:36,533 with stubborn ways. 819 01:11:38,017 --> 01:11:41,711 And there was not a lot of discussion about feelings. 820 01:11:42,919 --> 01:11:47,095 Feeling became a meal, usually sweets. [laughs] 821 01:11:51,134 --> 01:11:54,931 So there was always that sense of like a gap 822 01:11:54,931 --> 01:11:59,453 between what you wanna say and what could be said. 823 01:11:59,453 --> 01:12:01,662 And this subterranean love, 824 01:12:03,733 --> 01:12:07,357 but with this thing that you couldn't break through, 825 01:12:07,357 --> 01:12:11,534 which I call that Italian thing. [laughs] 826 01:12:39,527 --> 01:12:44,360 - It was amazing because the family was explaining to us 827 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,121 that there were several siblings. 828 01:12:48,329 --> 01:12:51,919 And the father of that Zappa family 829 01:12:51,919 --> 01:12:55,232 had purchased land for the family to live. 830 01:12:55,232 --> 01:12:58,857 And I don't remember if was five girls and five boys, 831 01:12:58,857 --> 01:13:00,686 or how many children there were. 832 01:13:00,686 --> 01:13:04,276 But all but two of them live on this street 833 01:13:04,276 --> 01:13:06,382 and live in houses right beside each other. 834 01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:10,386 And they spend all of their time together. 835 01:13:10,386 --> 01:13:14,562 ["Little Umbrellas" by Frank Zappa] 836 01:14:16,797 --> 01:14:21,180 - My father had a degree of that Sicilian thing, 837 01:14:21,180 --> 01:14:23,666 but he was a very emotional and sensitive person. 838 01:14:23,666 --> 01:14:25,599 I think because he was an artist, 839 01:14:25,599 --> 01:14:27,773 he was a very soft-spoken, 840 01:14:30,155 --> 01:14:32,053 logical, gentle person. 841 01:14:34,297 --> 01:14:38,370 And it brings tears to my eyes to think about how 842 01:14:40,993 --> 01:14:44,928 thoughtful he was in his words and his actions 843 01:14:44,928 --> 01:14:46,723 as a parent. 844 01:14:46,723 --> 01:14:49,726 [mellow rock music] 845 01:16:00,901 --> 01:16:05,077 - As I continue to play music and play his music for people, 846 01:16:07,217 --> 01:16:10,427 it's a way for me to continue having a relationship 847 01:16:10,427 --> 01:16:12,498 with something that's still familiar to me. 848 01:16:12,498 --> 01:16:15,225 And through playing the music and 849 01:16:17,987 --> 01:16:20,541 the experience that we had here in Sicily, 850 01:16:20,541 --> 01:16:23,475 where people celebrating him and being proud 851 01:16:23,475 --> 01:16:27,030 he's from Partinico, and all of that stuff, 852 01:16:28,204 --> 01:16:31,794 it's a chance for him to still be here for us. 853 01:16:39,905 --> 01:16:42,908 [upbeat band music] 854 01:17:33,303 --> 01:17:36,721 I noticed you see all the flamenco stuff. 855 01:17:38,136 --> 01:17:42,381 - I'm sad that there is nothing, he wasn't here longer. 856 01:17:42,381 --> 01:17:44,383 The silence is horrible. 857 01:17:45,730 --> 01:17:49,423 But I'm grateful for what he did manage to do. 858 01:17:58,087 --> 01:18:00,503 [applauding] 859 01:18:05,611 --> 01:18:09,754 The two things that I think that Frank loved the most, 860 01:18:10,824 --> 01:18:12,998 that represented his life, 861 01:18:14,275 --> 01:18:15,760 was first freedom, 862 01:18:17,623 --> 01:18:19,004 and second music. 863 01:18:21,766 --> 01:18:25,217 And through music, and when you have that experience, 864 01:18:25,217 --> 01:18:27,047 or whatever it is that you choose, 865 01:18:27,047 --> 01:18:29,394 but for Frank it was music, 866 01:18:29,394 --> 01:18:31,776 you discover freedom. 867 01:18:31,776 --> 01:18:35,952 And you don't want anyone or anything to have the power 868 01:18:38,092 --> 01:18:40,923 to be in your way to such a degree 869 01:18:42,372 --> 01:18:46,342 that you cannot do the things that you are destined to do. 870 01:18:46,342 --> 01:18:49,863 And I am lucky that I have this thing that I know 871 01:18:49,863 --> 01:18:51,692 that compels me. 872 01:18:51,692 --> 01:18:55,592 And I saw Frank do that with his life, as well. 873 01:18:57,008 --> 01:18:59,838 [uplifting music] 63128

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