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[Announcer] From the
Department of Correction...
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the Big Boss Man!
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[Narrator] In wrestling's
1980s golden age,
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the Big Boss Man
built his name
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as a defining villain
of the era.
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[Boss Man] You see a man who
likes to make people suffer!
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He was an evil
prison guard that
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took advantage of
the poor inmates.
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[Announcer] You know,
this is totally uncalled for.
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And beat 'em down
with a nightstick.
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[Announcer] The Big
Boss Man wants to do
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some torturing here.
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And forced 'em
to serve hard time.
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Big Boss Man was
an exceptional heel
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because he was
believable.
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Some would say
he's a cult classic.
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[Boss Man] Feel the pain,
the whole pain,
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and nothing
but the pain!
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[Narrator] After reaching
massive heights in the 80s,
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the Boss Man's character
took a controversial turn
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during the fabled
Attitude Era.
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The Big Boss Man was a
great performer in the ring,
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but it pisses me off to
this day that people
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remember him for
feeding guys dogs and
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desecrating corpses
at funerals.
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Who in the fuck came up
with this idea?
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[Announcer]
And McMahon is happy!
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I got to go to school
the next day and
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explain this to my
friends and peers.
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[Announcer] The Boss Man
hanging from the cell!
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[Narrator] But Ray Traylor's
hardest battles were with
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addiction in an industry
fueled by pain killers.
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[Announcer] Look at the
pain on the kisser of
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the Big Boss Man!
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I think that all men,
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they want to hide
that they hurt.
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It gets tiring to physically
be in pain every day.
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It gets hard.
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I do wonder if those doctors
really knew
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the can of worms they
were opening up.
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I've always said that the
wrestling business
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will find your weakness,
it will prey upon it,
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and it will kill you.
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[indistinct shouting]
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You think your parents are
supposed to be perfect.
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When it comes to addiction,
it was a problem for him.
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He said,
"Look, I'm sorry.
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I'm just hurting."
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?
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[Boss Man] Ever since
I was a little, bitty boy,
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my mama, my daddy
taught me one thing,
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and that's to respect law,
order, and justice.
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I'm the Big Boss Man.
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I am the law and order in the
World Wrestling Federation.
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It's unbelievable that you
kept all of this stuff.
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It makes me smile because
I haven't looked at it
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in a long time.
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[Announcer] Oh, no.
Oh, no!
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I hope he did
his ab work. Ha!
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This is Dad and
Arsenio Hall.
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[Arsenio] Let me speak to the
Big Boss Man for a minute.
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[Boss Man] Say what
you gotta say.
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[Arsenio] You already
got attitude. Wait,
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but it's cool, it's cool.
- Attitude ain't the word.
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This is the long arm
of the law.
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That is very handy.
It's the real deal.
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It's the real deal.
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[Announcer]
Oh... Oh!
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This should be an automatic
disqualification right here.
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I don't even think I
understood his place
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in wrestling history and
just how popular he was.
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[Announcer] What an ovation
here for the Big Boss Man!
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{\an8}[Lacy] My name's
Lacy Traylor.
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{\an8}Daughter of Ray Traylor,
the Big Boss Man.
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[Announce]
Oh, look at tha!
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Nice move
by Boss Man!
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[indistinct commentary]
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[Lacy] Big Boss Man,
the character,
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he had so many great
feuds and matches.
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But the real guy, he was
a big sweetheart.
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He was a great dad.
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[Ray] Lacy, this is for you
for when you get older.
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I want you to see how little
and how scrawny you was.
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[Lacy] Ray Traylor
was a girl dad.
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My mom used to joke,
I'm the Boss Man's boss.
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I was born bossy,
I'll die bossy.
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[Ray] Wee!
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[Lacy] I ran a tight ship
with my old man.
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I can't tell you how many
times we had him posted up
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putting makeup on him.
I always felt loved,
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and we spent a lot
of time laughing.
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[Ray] I'm Clifford the dog.
What's your name?
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[Laughing]
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You know, because
I loved him so much,
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that was it. I just
loved that man.
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And I was always
so proud of him,
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so I just wanted to keep
everything, you know.
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{\an8}[Angela] I'm Angela Traylor,
and I was married to
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{\an8}Ray Traylor,
the Big Boss Man.
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We went to
high school together.
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He was a foot taller than
everybody in school.
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You could see Ray from
the other end of the hall,
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over everybody.
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I had this little crush
on him, so I had
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cut out his picture
and I had it on my little board.
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He was the
sweetest thing ever.
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He never drank,
never partied.
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He took me to
my junior prom.
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We were together
ever since.
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?
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[Angela] He loved me
with everything he had.
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But he said he would
never marry me
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until he could
take care of me.
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?
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[Angela] He got hired as
a correctional officer
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for Cobb County.
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{\an8}[Angela] He really was,
he really was.
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He was such a big guy,
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the prisoners
called him "Boss."
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His heart wasn't into it.
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Honestly, I think he was
just showing up for work
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'cause he knew
he was getting paid.
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But it wasn't
a lot of money.
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[Narrator] Encouraged by
friends and looking to
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generate extra income,
Ray uses his size and
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strength to enter the
wrestling business.
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In 1986, Ray joins
Jim Crockett Promotions,
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a rapidly expanding
competitor to the WWF.
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[Announcer] Tully Blanchard,
Ray Traylor.
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[Angela] We paid the
money for him to go to
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training and everything,
but you know,
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he only had time
to do like two trainings
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and, the rest of
the training he got
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while he was
on the road.
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[Announcer] Ray Traylor
really has a weight advantage.
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{\an8}[Angela] I mean,
he never wrestled
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{\an8}a day in his life
and he's, you know,
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within two weeks,
he was on the road with,
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{\an8}you know, wrestling
Dusty all over the place.
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{\an8}[Jim] Dusty Rhodes was
a top babyface star
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{\an8}and was also
the booker.
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{\an8}He knew talent
when he saw it.
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{\an8}I'm Jim Cornette,
and at one time,
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{\an8}Ray Traylor was
my bodyguard.
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{\an8}I've got the indestructible
Bubba Rogers,
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my personal bodyguard.
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I was a wimpy mama's boy
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from a rich family
in Louisville, Kentucky,
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and the fans were
beating the shit out of me.
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Get away from me!
Get him!
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Dennis, help me!
Back away from me!
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The idea of having
a bodyguard
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appealed to me
legitimately.
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And anybody else that wants
to lay a finger on me
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or do me any kind of harm,
you're gonna have to
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go through
Bubba Rogers!
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Ray said, "I worked as
a guard at Cobb County.
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They taught us to be able
to contain people." I said,
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"Well, contain these son
'a bitches all you want."
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[Announcer] Oh, he pushed,
he pushed Cornette down.
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Bubba's in a rage!
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[Angela] Here comes
this guy, he comes down
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and he's in the
crowd, right.
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He was trying
to hit Cornette.
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Well, Ray just took his
fist and slammed the guy,
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knocked his teeth
out of his head.
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[Announcer] Watch out,
here's Bubba!
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[Jim] I didn't have anybody
coming over the rail anymore
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'cause they were
scared of Bubba.
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This was a
god damn badass.
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[Announcer] The baddest man
in the world,
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Big Bubba Rogers!
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[Jim] Dusty understood that
Bubba had to have an aura,
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so when Bubba does something
it's like a movie monster.
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[Crowd] [screaming]
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[Jim] Leading up to the big
confrontation between
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Dusty Rhodes and
Big Bubba Rogers,
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Dusty comes in
with a chair...
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and Dusty had told
Klondike Bill, the ring guy,
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"Gimmick the chair so when
I hit him, it breaks."
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Dusty Paul Bunions this
chair right over his head-
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"Psh!"
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[Crowd] [screaming]
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[Jim] The seat blows out.
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It doesn't even
knock his hat off.
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It's one of the most
memorable pieces of video
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that we ever shot.
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We go back in the back...
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"Bill! Great job
on the chair!"
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He's like, "I forgot!"
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"Dusty just hit him as
hard as he could
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over the head with it,
it broke it."
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All of a sudden,
Big Bubba Rogers is
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one of the most
fearsome guys on the card.
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[Announcer] Woo!
Oh, my goodness!
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[Jim] And nobody
can stop him.
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Anybody got a stretcher?
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We got a Big Bubba Rogers
carry out!
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[Angela] He tried to work
both jobs for a while,
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but a lot of the
prisoners started
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recognizing him
from TV.
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They would be rowdy when
he'd come into work.
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And then he was asking
for days off 'cause
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he was trying to keep up
on the road.
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The warden called him in
his office, and he said,
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"Ray, you gotta
make a decision.
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Are you going to be a
correctional officer?
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Or are you going to be
a wrestler?"
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He said, "I guess
I'm a wrestler."
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Never looked back.
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?
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[Narrator] Booked in a
dangerous, high profile match,
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Ray's career hits
a crossroads.
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[Jim] By the end of 1986,
Bubba was in our corner
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when the Midnight Express
faced the Road Warriors
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{\an8}in a scaffold match.
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{\an8}...to win the match.
Oh, my.
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{\an8}...you must throw both of
your opponents
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{\an8}off of the scaffold.
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[Jim] But then Dusty wanted
the Road Warriors to
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chase me up to the top of
the scaffold and drop...
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into Big Bubba's clutches.
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[Announcer]
Look at Cornette!
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[screaming]
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[Jim] I'm glad he didn't
play center field
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because he fumbled
that catch.
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When I landed, it blew
the ACL in my right knee.
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{\an8}And then,
came Starrcade '87.
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{\an8}But this time, they wanted
Bubba to go up.
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[Announcer] Here he goes!
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The big man,
350 pounds.
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[Jim] The people
thinking, "Oh,
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he's gonna throw him off!"
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But as he's closing in
on him, Ricky Morton
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had punched him in the
balls and ran away.
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[Announcer] Oh!
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[screaming]
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[Jim] After the
match was over,
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we all got
$10,000 apiece.
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Bubba got five.
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He felt disrespected.
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[Angela] Ray, he realized
he wasn't making
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the same as these other
guys, but he was working
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just as hard and taking
just as much abuse.
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And at this point, we were
living poor and we were
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talking about moving back
to my parents' house.
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He said,
"I'm quitting."
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[Jim] At the same time,
word had been getting out
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about Ray, who is that
size and that agile,
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and he's already
proven to be a draw.
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Vince heard about that.
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[Vince] Hello, everybody!
I'm Vince McMahon...
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[Narrator] Accepting
the invitation,
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Ray flies to New York to
meet with WWF promoter,
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Vince McMahon.
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[Hulk] You know,
something Vicious Vince?
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I didn't even
sleep last night!
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[Jim] For anybody unfamiliar
with Vince McMahon and
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his outlook on wrestling,
bigger is better.
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He liked Hulk Hogan,
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who looked like
a superhero.
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[Announcer] Look at
the size of those arms.
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[Jim] And he wanted super
villains to fight him.
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[Announcer] Look at this!
He slammed him!
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[Gerry] When talent comes in,
their first stop is
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at the office of
Vince McMahon.
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{\an8}Gerry Brisco here.
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{\an8}I'm here to talk to you about
a very good friend of mine,
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{\an8}the Big Boss Man.
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I had the pleasure of sitting
there and listening to these
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interviews when new
characters come in,
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and Vince, you know,
"What have you done?
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What's your background?"
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You can see those
wheels in
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Vince McMahon's head
just starting to turn.
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[Jim] When Vince heard
that Bubba had been
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a prison guard, that was
the icing on the cake.
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Not only is he got a guy
that's big enough to fight
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Hulk Hogan toe to toe,
now there's the gimmick.
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Prison guard...
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Makes you serve
hard time.
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It was tailor made.
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[Angela] Vince asked him what
the prisoners called him.
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And he said, "Boss."
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And so Vince said,
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"Okay, you're the
Big Boss Man."
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[Boss Man] Inside these walls,
I'm the only judge.
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I'm the only jury.
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{\an8}And if need be,
I'm the executioner.
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{\an8}[Announcer] Wow,
look at this guy.
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{\an8}Yeah,
he is a monster.
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{\an8}...The Big Boss Man!
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{\an8}Uh-oh, look at that!
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Oh, my!
That could do it!
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[Angela] I remember
our first paycheck,
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me and Ray both
were in shock.
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It was life changing.
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[Announcer]
What is going on here?
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[Narrator] After a
successful debut,
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McMahon immediately thrusts
Boss Man into the spotlight.
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[Jim] Bubba got in the spot
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that most people
only dream of.
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[Hulk] And you'll be
singing the Hulkamania
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Prison Blues, brother.
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[Jim] When he attacked Hogan
on the Brother Love Show...
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[Announcer] Whoa!
Look out!
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[Jim] There was
no stopping him.
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[Boss Man] You got to serve
some hard time, Hogan!
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With a hard man!
The Big Boss Man!
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{\an8}[Narrator] The Boss Man's
feud with Hulk Hogan
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{\an8}builds to an epic
steel cage match,
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{\an8}the biggest moment of
Ray Traylor's career.
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[Announcer]
It's a cage match,
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the most difficult match
in all of wrestling.
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Hogan's in for
some punishment.
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[cheering]
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[Gerry] I was so impressed
with that cage match.
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[Announcer] ...and crushing
blow by the Boss Man!
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[Gerry] They brought out
the best in each other.
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[Announcer] And I
believe he's pulling
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the Boss Man back up!
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[Gerry] Hogan climbed
to the top of the rope,
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and Ray was
sitting on top.
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[Announcer]
He's choking him!
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[Gerry] Here's two
300-pound guys,
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and you didn't see this a
whole lot back in those days.
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[Announcer] Hogan trying
to set up the Boss Man!
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[Gerry] Hulk suplexes
Big Boss Man
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off the top
of that cage.
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You realize that's 20 feet
before you hit the ground?
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[Announcer]
A suplex! No!
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Yes,
I can't believe it!
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[Nare
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Big Boss Man elevates their
match to legendary status.
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[Announcer]
I can't believe it!
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I've never seen a suplex off
the top of the cage before.
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{\an8}[Jim] Everybody remembers
when Hulk Hogan
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{\an8}gave the Big Boss Man
a superplex
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{\an8}off the top of
the steel cage...
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?
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And the people, "Ah!" 'cause
they didn't see it coming.
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[Announcer] McMahon, I think
they're both knocked out!
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[Jim] That was unheard of
for Hogan to do something
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that daring, but also, for a
guy that size of Boss Man
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to take that bump
was unheard of.
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{\an8}[Gerry] When I saw that,
holy cow, this guy,
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{\an8}he's not only a good
performer and a good man,
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{\an8}he's not afraid to
sacrifice his body for
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{\an8}the good of a match.
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[Announcer] One of the
most grueling matches
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in World Wrestling
Federation history!
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[Narrator] The Boss Man's
feud with Hogan cements
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Ray Traylor as a
main event attraction.
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[cheering]
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[Announcer] Whoa!
They go right at it, don't they?
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[Jim] The Big Boss Man,
from the time of his arrival
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in the WWF, was figured
in among the top stars.
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[Announcer]
With such force!
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[Boss Man]
How do you feel, boys?
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[Jim] He called me one week,
he said, "Jimmy,
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guess how much money
I made last week!"
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I'm like, "How much?"
He said, "$12,000!"
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[Announcer] I'm sure the
Boss Man will be happy
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to just keep
knocking 'em down.
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{\an8}[Angela] He made the same
amount in one paycheck
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as he did for a
whole entire year
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as a correction officer.
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Money does change your life,
and it does make
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things easier, or it can
make things harder.
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But, it did not change
Ray one bit.
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We lived in a
nice neighborhood,
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it was a nice home,
but we had
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nothing in common with
anybody in there.
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[Laughing]
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[Jim] The one thing that
Vince did that no other
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promoters were able to do
is go out and
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make his guys
mainstream names.
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Big Boss Man showed up
on Arsenio Hall.
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[Arsenio] How did you feel
when Hulk Hogan
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was whipping his ass?
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[Laughing]
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[Jim] That's where
Big Boss Man started
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crossing over into
being a celebrity.
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[Narrator] Though originally
cast as a villain,
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the Big Boss Man becomes
a new fan favorite.
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[Jim] Vince waited 'til
the time was right.
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And then slowly
he started making
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Boss Man a babyface.
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[Hulk] And he stands
for truth, justice,
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and the
Hulk Hogan way.
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And that's none
other than the
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Big Boss Man, brother!
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- What?
- He'll be in my corner!
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[Jim] When the
thing is flipped,
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Big Boss Man is gonna
lock the bad guys up
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for their transgressions.
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[Boss Man] With me
in your corner,
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I guarantee that Earthquake
and Dino Bravo
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are gonna serve
hard time!
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[Jim] It was a
natural transition.
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[Announcer]
[indistinct commentary]
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{\an8}[Lacy] That's what everybody
wants to see, right?
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{\an8}An incorruptible man
of the law.
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[Announcer] Kick out,
kick out!
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He covers him!
That wasn't fair.
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[Jim] And then,
the merchandise.
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[Announcer] There's the
Big Boss Man night stick,
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and there's the real
one right there.
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[Jim] And the action figures.
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[Announcer] Boss Man!
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[Jim] They even had like
Big Boss Man pillow buddies,
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where the kids could
sleep curled up
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with the
Big Boss Man.
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[Announcer] Aw, little kiss
for the Boss Man.
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[Laughing]
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[Lacy] The song...
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[singing] If you ever
take a trip
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down to Cobb County,
Georgia
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[Laughing]
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? He carries a big stick. ?
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00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,461
? A ball and chain too. ?
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[Lacy] It made him
sound so amazing.
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? ...coming after you. ?
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? Do some hard time! ?
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[Jacques]
He's a main eventer.
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He's got all
the merchandise.
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00:16:53,971 --> 00:16:56,724
He must be the
happiest man on Earth.
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00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:59,810
But who's the real
law enforcement officer?
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My authority is international.
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00:17:02,605 --> 00:17:04,523
You're just a Georgia cop.
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00:17:04,524 --> 00:17:06,525
You're not in
my league, brother.
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00:17:06,526 --> 00:17:08,235
{\an8}That's bottom line.
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{\an8}My name is
Jacques Rougeau.
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{\an8}But, you may remember me
as The Mountie,
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because I always
get my man.
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00:17:14,784 --> 00:17:17,412
Vince called me up.
He said, "Jacques,"
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he says, "I have a character
I want you to play.
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We have this American cop,
and we're gonna have
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this Canadian cop,
The Mountie."
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00:17:26,173 --> 00:17:29,339
[Jacques] No,
but I was a real jerk.
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[Laughing]
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00:17:30,675 --> 00:17:31,883
[indistinct shouting]
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00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:34,720
...nothing that you
can do about it!
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00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:37,472
I think the big blowoff
was the jailhouse match.
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[Announcer] Oh!
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[Jacques] It was decisive.
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00:17:39,851 --> 00:17:41,393
[Announcer] He knocked
the wind right out of him!
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00:17:41,394 --> 00:17:42,853
[Jacques] Was only law
enforcement officer
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00:17:42,854 --> 00:17:44,688
and it was the
Big Boss Man.
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00:17:44,689 --> 00:17:47,524
[Laughing]
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In those days,
we were on the road
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25 days a month, bumping,
hurting themselves.
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Giving their time to traveling.
Canceled flights.
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Your kids are waiting
for you at home.
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00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,202
You miss them
so much.
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The state of mind of the
person that's giving its body
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and toll for 25 days a
month, he's suffering.
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[Angela] People don't
see what goes on
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for real sometimes.
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00:18:08,838 --> 00:18:11,466
How hard it is to,
you know, be a family
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when you're away
300 days a year.
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[Lacy] Dad, he was
on the road so much
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in my very
early childhood.
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- Come here.
- No, no.
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No! No.
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00:18:23,061 --> 00:18:25,645
[Ray] You want to stay in there?
[Angela] Don't be mean.
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00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:28,816
[Lacy] I remember thinking,
who is this man?
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00:18:28,941 --> 00:18:31,861
Like, why is he stealing my
attention from my mom?
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00:18:33,196 --> 00:18:36,531
But, he explained early on
that this lifestyle
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00:18:36,532 --> 00:18:39,368
and his career that,
you know,
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00:18:39,369 --> 00:18:42,245
some things there's
gonna be a trade-off.
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00:18:42,246 --> 00:18:45,332
I can't tell you how many
times me spending time
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00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:49,503
with Dad was going to visit
sick kids at the hospital.
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To be in the position
that he was,
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if his presence can
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light somebody's face up
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and make them happy,
it was a duty to him.
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[Narrator] Ray receives
an offer from rival,
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00:19:04,268 --> 00:19:06,019
World Championship
Wrestling,
480
00:19:06,020 --> 00:19:08,146
which is luring away
WWF talent
481
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:10,565
with big money
and a lighter schedule.
482
00:19:10,566 --> 00:19:12,818
[Announcer]
As the Boss...
483
00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:14,820
[Angela] With WCW, all of
his buddies only worked
484
00:19:14,821 --> 00:19:18,281
150 days a year for the
same amount of money.
485
00:19:18,282 --> 00:19:20,392
[Lacy] I'm very thankful
that he ended up
486
00:19:20,451 --> 00:19:22,035
going to WCW.
487
00:19:22,036 --> 00:19:24,205
[Ray] Lacy,
pose for me.
488
00:19:24,206 --> 00:19:26,707
[Lacy] We were able to spend
a lot more time with him
489
00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:29,835
and do a lot more stuff
together as a family.
490
00:19:29,836 --> 00:19:31,336
He loved taking us
on trips.
491
00:19:31,337 --> 00:19:33,840
Deep sea fishing was
always a fun one,
492
00:19:33,841 --> 00:19:35,841
and we had a beautiful home
with a lake
493
00:19:35,842 --> 00:19:37,719
that he was
really proud of.
494
00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:39,970
So, we spent a lot
of time there, also,
495
00:19:39,971 --> 00:19:43,683
just fishing and
doing redneck stuff.
496
00:19:43,684 --> 00:19:46,184
[Announcer] Steiner is as
tough as the great athletes.
497
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:47,060
Oh!
498
00:19:47,061 --> 00:19:48,020
Like a Big Bubba,
like a Rick Steiner-
499
00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:51,232
{\an8}[Lacy] We had such a great,
little community
500
00:19:51,357 --> 00:19:53,483
{\an8}with the Steiners
and their kids.
501
00:19:53,484 --> 00:19:54,943
{\an8}[crying]
502
00:19:54,944 --> 00:19:56,319
{\an8}[indistinct commentary]
503
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,822
[Jim] Bubba enjoyed the
WCW run because
504
00:19:58,823 --> 00:20:01,783
he got to spend more time
with his family.
505
00:20:01,784 --> 00:20:05,245
But his professional
profile was harmed.
506
00:20:05,246 --> 00:20:07,956
Ray couldn't be
Big Boss Man in WCW
507
00:20:07,957 --> 00:20:10,876
because Vince owned
the character.
508
00:20:10,877 --> 00:20:15,380
So, it ended up a revolving
door of stupid names
509
00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:17,716
and ridiculous gimmicks.
510
00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:20,719
[Announcer]
[indistinct shouting]
511
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,057
Big Bubba!
512
00:20:24,182 --> 00:20:26,391
[Jim] And because
it was in the news,
513
00:20:26,392 --> 00:20:30,020
and it was a branch of law
enforcement- loosely-
514
00:20:30,021 --> 00:20:32,774
one of them was the
Guardian Angel!
515
00:20:32,899 --> 00:20:35,525
Like to welcome you into
the worldwide group
516
00:20:35,526 --> 00:20:37,612
known as the
Guardian Angels.
517
00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:39,427
[Jim] That idiot,
Curtis Sliwa,
518
00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:42,866
and his ridiculous group of
unarmed citizens that
519
00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:44,911
wanted to make the world
a better place.
520
00:20:44,912 --> 00:20:47,037
I'm surprised they didn't
make him a meter maid.
521
00:20:47,038 --> 00:20:51,583
[Announcer]
The Guardian Angel!
522
00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:54,114
[Jim] But it wasn't really
as rotten as it would be
523
00:20:54,212 --> 00:20:56,588
when he went
back to the WWF.
524
00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,048
Despite the fact
that Ray Traylor
525
00:20:58,049 --> 00:21:00,759
was one of the
most talented guys
526
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,096
of the past ten years
in the business,
527
00:21:03,221 --> 00:21:07,099
he is now remembered for
taking part in some of the
528
00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,769
worst wrestling television
that has ever been
529
00:21:09,894 --> 00:21:11,687
perpetrated on the air.
530
00:21:18,236 --> 00:21:20,404
[Narrator] In 1998,
the Big Boss Man
531
00:21:20,405 --> 00:21:22,991
returns to a
reshaped WWF. ...
532
00:21:23,116 --> 00:21:26,660
[Announcer] And
welcome to WWF Raw!
533
00:21:26,661 --> 00:21:29,831
[Narrator] ...with new talent
and edgier story lines.
534
00:21:29,832 --> 00:21:31,206
[Announcer]
[indistinct commentary]
535
00:21:31,207 --> 00:21:33,793
Oh!
[shattering]
536
00:21:33,918 --> 00:21:36,838
[cheering]
537
00:21:36,963 --> 00:21:41,551
?
538
00:21:41,676 --> 00:21:44,012
[Jim] The feud between
Vince McMahon and
539
00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:47,180
Stone Cold Steve Austin
was the single hottest
540
00:21:47,181 --> 00:21:50,810
money-drawing rivalry in
professional wrestling.
541
00:21:50,935 --> 00:21:53,311
[Announcer] Oh, no!
It's Austin!
542
00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,939
[Russo] When you have
very strong characters...
543
00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:57,190
[Vince] No, no!
544
00:21:57,191 --> 00:21:59,736
[Russo] ...and put them
together...
545
00:22:01,070 --> 00:22:03,655
the shit writes itself.
546
00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:05,198
[Vince] Ugh!
547
00:22:05,199 --> 00:22:07,826
Obviously,
The Big Boss Man
548
00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:10,412
was well-defined
as a character
549
00:22:10,413 --> 00:22:13,832
{\an8}for years and years
and years.
550
00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,293
{\an8}My name is Vince Russo,
and I was the head writer
551
00:22:16,294 --> 00:22:20,089
{\an8}of the WWF during
the Attitude Era.
552
00:22:20,214 --> 00:22:22,216
When we brought Ray in,
553
00:22:22,341 --> 00:22:24,134
Ray was not calling us.
554
00:22:24,135 --> 00:22:25,844
We were calling him
555
00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:27,847
because we needed him
on the show.
556
00:22:27,848 --> 00:22:29,181
[Announcer]
Wait a minute!
557
00:22:29,182 --> 00:22:30,892
Here comes
a security guy.
558
00:22:31,017 --> 00:22:33,269
[indistinct commentary]
What the hell?
559
00:22:33,394 --> 00:22:34,854
McMahon's security guy!
560
00:22:34,979 --> 00:22:37,231
Oh! It's the
Big Boss Man!
561
00:22:37,357 --> 00:22:40,817
[Jim] He became the
bodyguard for Vince McMahon.
562
00:22:40,818 --> 00:22:44,864
Instead of the blue shirt
and the old cop stereotype
563
00:22:44,989 --> 00:22:47,032
from Cobb County,
Georgia,
564
00:22:47,033 --> 00:22:48,992
now he's in
the tactical gear and
565
00:22:48,993 --> 00:22:51,078
{\an8}the all black,
heavy vest.
566
00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:53,121
{\an8}It looked like a
SWAT team member.
567
00:22:53,122 --> 00:22:55,165
{\an8}And now he's
serving THE man.
568
00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:57,376
[Boss Man] I'm enforcing
McMahon's law!
569
00:22:57,377 --> 00:22:59,628
You're gonna
abide by it!
570
00:22:59,629 --> 00:23:01,171
[Jim] It's not law,
order, and justice.
571
00:23:01,172 --> 00:23:02,882
It's whatever Vince wants.
572
00:23:03,007 --> 00:23:04,801
[Vince] Boss Man,
if you will.
573
00:23:04,926 --> 00:23:06,385
?
574
00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:07,677
[Jim] That was a great spot.
575
00:23:07,678 --> 00:23:09,680
[Vince] Get him!
Teach him a lesson!
576
00:23:09,806 --> 00:23:12,892
{\an8}[Lacy] It was always cool
to get to watch him on TV.
577
00:23:13,017 --> 00:23:15,770
I remember Mom having
people over and
578
00:23:15,895 --> 00:23:17,354
ordering a pay-per-view,
579
00:23:17,355 --> 00:23:19,398
and I'm going to go to
school the next day,
580
00:23:19,399 --> 00:23:20,732
and a bunch of kids
are going to be like,
581
00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:24,112
"I watched your dad
on TV last night!"
582
00:23:24,237 --> 00:23:27,407
Man, what a cool life
I've gotten to live.
583
00:23:31,285 --> 00:23:33,246
{\an8}[Lacy] I love The Rock.
584
00:23:33,247 --> 00:23:35,455
[The Rock] You smell
what The Rock is cooking.
585
00:23:35,456 --> 00:23:37,749
[Lacy] Rocky's birthday
is on Dad's birthday.
586
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:40,210
And so, every year,
we made him cards.
587
00:23:40,211 --> 00:23:41,378
[Announcer]
Wait a minute...
588
00:23:41,379 --> 00:23:42,963
Yes, yes!
[match bell ringing]
589
00:23:42,964 --> 00:23:44,005
[Lacy] He was the best.
590
00:23:44,006 --> 00:23:45,048
[Announcer] I didn't even
have a chance to smell
591
00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:48,136
what he was cooking!
Here comes Austin!
592
00:23:48,261 --> 00:23:50,638
[Lacy] And I was a
huge Stone Cold fan.
593
00:23:50,639 --> 00:23:53,181
He's big and scary, like,
when you're a little kid.
594
00:23:53,182 --> 00:23:55,601
But yeah,
I loved it.
595
00:23:55,602 --> 00:23:58,103
That would have been amazing
to see a Steve Austin
596
00:23:58,104 --> 00:23:59,980
and Big Boss Man feud.
597
00:23:59,981 --> 00:24:01,774
[Vince] Come on,
Boss Man!
598
00:24:01,775 --> 00:24:02,983
Get him and
get him gone!
599
00:24:02,984 --> 00:24:05,235
[Jim] You would think there
would be the Big Boss Man
600
00:24:05,236 --> 00:24:07,404
and Steve Austin...
601
00:24:07,405 --> 00:24:08,990
We didn't get that.
602
00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:12,160
{\an8}?
603
00:24:12,161 --> 00:24:13,452
{\an8}[Gerry] I'm gonna paint
the picture for you.
604
00:24:13,453 --> 00:24:16,246
{\an8}We're gonna do
this spot- Vince, myself-
605
00:24:16,247 --> 00:24:18,290
{\an8}and we're gonna
interfere in the match.
606
00:24:18,291 --> 00:24:19,624
[Announcer] It's a
bad man to be hurt-
607
00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:21,501
[Gerry] The Boss Man's
supposed to hit Stone Cold
608
00:24:21,502 --> 00:24:24,796
with a chair and
knock him out.
609
00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:27,257
I see Boss Man
backstage.
610
00:24:27,258 --> 00:24:28,925
Ray had been going
over his match
611
00:24:28,926 --> 00:24:31,971
with Undertaker for
the last hour.
612
00:24:32,096 --> 00:24:35,600
And I tell Ray,
"You better be there."
613
00:24:35,725 --> 00:24:38,811
Here comes the spot.
We start walking out.
614
00:24:40,188 --> 00:24:43,190
And Vince elbowed me,
"Where's Boss Man?"
615
00:24:43,191 --> 00:24:45,818
I look and I-
Oh, shit.
616
00:24:45,943 --> 00:24:47,527
[crowd chatter]
617
00:24:47,528 --> 00:24:49,321
[Russo] I'm watching
on the monitor.
618
00:24:49,322 --> 00:24:53,368
I know this is
Boss Man's spot.
619
00:24:53,493 --> 00:24:56,788
He's standing right
next to me in the back.
620
00:24:56,913 --> 00:24:58,706
And I said, "Bro!
621
00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:01,459
You're supposed
to be out there!"
622
00:25:01,584 --> 00:25:04,836
The 'holy shit' look
on his face.
623
00:25:04,837 --> 00:25:06,547
?
624
00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:07,714
[Gerry] Stone Cold's down.
625
00:25:07,715 --> 00:25:10,092
There's a chair
introduced in the ring.
626
00:25:10,093 --> 00:25:12,219
?
627
00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:13,762
There's no Boss Man!
628
00:25:13,763 --> 00:25:16,181
And I look at Vince,
Vince said, "Do it."
629
00:25:16,182 --> 00:25:19,142
Mind you, Stone Cold had
just come off his injury
630
00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:21,186
from having a
broken neck.
631
00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:24,022
So I'm thinking, Brisco,
if you hurt this guy,
632
00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:25,816
you're gonna get fired.
633
00:25:25,817 --> 00:25:27,568
[cheering]
634
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,611
[Announcer] Brisco
with the chair shot!
635
00:25:29,612 --> 00:25:31,321
?
636
00:25:31,322 --> 00:25:33,866
[Gerry] Oh, shit!
That was awful!
637
00:25:33,867 --> 00:25:36,868
When Stone Cold came
to the back, man,
638
00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:38,538
he chewed
Boss Man out.
639
00:25:47,906 --> 00:25:53,176
[Lacy] I remember Dad being
really upset with himself
640
00:25:53,177 --> 00:25:54,553
about that one.
641
00:25:54,554 --> 00:25:56,763
'Cause he really
dropped the ball there.
642
00:25:56,764 --> 00:25:59,349
[Gerry] After that spot,
his push kind of started just
643
00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:02,895
slowly, slowly dying out,
to where he was
644
00:26:03,021 --> 00:26:05,231
just another guy
after that.
645
00:26:05,232 --> 00:26:06,857
[Narrator] After a
mistake costs Ray
646
00:26:06,858 --> 00:26:09,609
a high profile feud
with Steve Austin,
647
00:26:09,610 --> 00:26:13,448
{\an8}the Boss Man's next storyline
shocks audiences...
648
00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:15,490
{\an8}and his family.
649
00:26:15,491 --> 00:26:18,828
{\an8}[Announcer] ...is the
Hell In A Cell match!
650
00:26:20,163 --> 00:26:23,623
[Jim] At WrestleMania '99,
Boss Man got the opportunity
651
00:26:23,624 --> 00:26:26,627
to face the Undertaker
in a cage match.
652
00:26:26,753 --> 00:26:28,920
And that would've been
great on its own...
653
00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:30,422
[Announcer]
[indistinct commentary]
654
00:26:30,423 --> 00:26:32,341
[Jim] But, then,
unfortunately
655
00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:34,384
other forces took over.
656
00:26:34,385 --> 00:26:36,596
[Announcer]
Tombstone!
657
00:26:36,721 --> 00:26:40,433
[Russo] As a writer,
I've got to think of
658
00:26:40,558 --> 00:26:44,312
something that you've
never seen before.
659
00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:48,066
And I don't mind when
you say, "Holy shit,
660
00:26:48,191 --> 00:26:51,277
I can't believe
they're doing that."
661
00:26:51,278 --> 00:26:52,402
{\an8}[Angela] He called me,
he's like, "Hey,
662
00:26:52,403 --> 00:26:54,363
{\an8}you have to come to
WrestleMania." I said, "Why?"
663
00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:56,073
He said, "Because they're
gonna do something crazy
664
00:26:56,074 --> 00:26:58,200
and they just want to make
sure you're there."
665
00:26:58,201 --> 00:27:00,118
He said, "They're probably
gonna hang me."
666
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,038
?
667
00:27:09,379 --> 00:27:11,421
he Undertaker d?
668
00:27:11,422 --> 00:27:12,589
What's he doing?
669
00:27:12,590 --> 00:27:14,841
[Narrator] As the
shocking scene unfolds,
670
00:27:14,842 --> 00:27:17,761
Boss Man's family
watches from ringside.
671
00:27:17,762 --> 00:27:19,304
[Announcer] He's choking
him with that noose!
672
00:27:19,305 --> 00:27:20,972
Referee,
do something!
673
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:22,724
?
674
00:27:22,725 --> 00:27:24,851
[Announcer]
We need help!
675
00:27:24,852 --> 00:27:30,357
The Boss Man's being
hung from the cell!
676
00:27:30,358 --> 00:27:32,652
{\an8}[Jim] It was controversial.
677
00:27:32,653 --> 00:27:34,986
{\an8}You're not supposed to
hang people on television
678
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:36,113
by the neck.
679
00:27:36,114 --> 00:27:37,823
They basically had
a public lynching.
680
00:27:37,824 --> 00:27:39,200
[Announcer]
Oh, my God!
681
00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:40,576
Let him down!
682
00:27:44,304 --> 00:27:46,581
{\an8}[Russo] Oh, my God!
683
00:27:46,582 --> 00:27:48,417
{\an8}Now, that,
that I did not know.
684
00:27:48,418 --> 00:27:50,378
{\an8}That's horrific.
685
00:27:50,503 --> 00:27:51,837
{\an8}?
686
00:27:51,838 --> 00:27:53,840
{\an8}[Lacy] I'll never forget
687
00:27:53,965 --> 00:27:57,218
{\an8}watching my dad
hanging there.
688
00:27:57,343 --> 00:28:00,846
{\an8}And I thought, honestly,
was this necessary?
689
00:28:00,847 --> 00:28:02,806
{\an8}?
690
00:28:02,807 --> 00:28:05,642
{\an8}[Gerry] Once again,
WWE pushing the envelope
691
00:28:05,643 --> 00:28:08,896
{\an8}until it's just teetering
on the edge there.
692
00:28:08,897 --> 00:28:10,981
{\an8}[Angela] He wasn't happy
about the storyline,
693
00:28:10,982 --> 00:28:13,525
{\an8}but what was he going to do?
He has to do it anyway.
694
00:28:13,526 --> 00:28:15,652
[Jim] Of course there
was a harness and etc.,
695
00:28:15,653 --> 00:28:18,113
but how do you come
back from a hanging?
696
00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:21,004
[Announcer] The Ministry of
Darkness is out of control!
697
00:28:22,702 --> 00:28:26,706
[Narrator] After the
controversial storyline...
698
00:28:26,831 --> 00:28:29,751
Ray realizes he needs to
be honest with his children
699
00:28:29,876 --> 00:28:32,295
about the business.
700
00:28:32,420 --> 00:28:35,882
[Lacy] There did come a
point in time where Dad had
701
00:28:36,007 --> 00:28:39,885
to sit me down and
explain the industry,
702
00:28:39,886 --> 00:28:42,054
because the storylines that
he was wrapped up in
703
00:28:42,055 --> 00:28:46,892
is a nightmare for, for
a school-aged child.
704
00:28:46,893 --> 00:28:49,394
[Al] That's the beauty of
professional wrestling.
705
00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:50,812
You can get away
with anything.
706
00:28:50,813 --> 00:28:52,064
[Announcer] Oh, my!
707
00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:54,900
He just ripped the
nose ring out of Droz.
708
00:28:54,901 --> 00:28:57,986
[Al] But what you could get
away with then some
709
00:28:57,987 --> 00:29:01,949
{\an8}would consider, I'm sure
bad taste nowadays.
710
00:29:02,075 --> 00:29:04,952
{\an8}My name is Al Snow.
Former WWE superstar.
711
00:29:05,078 --> 00:29:07,330
{\an8}And I used to wrestle
the Big Boss Man.
712
00:29:09,082 --> 00:29:12,001
As Al Snow, my whole
character or persona
713
00:29:12,126 --> 00:29:14,587
was that I suffered
from schizophrenia,
714
00:29:14,712 --> 00:29:19,592
so I was free to do
absolutely anything
715
00:29:19,717 --> 00:29:20,968
to be entertaining.
716
00:29:20,969 --> 00:29:22,719
[Announcer]
[indistinct commentary]
717
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,554
[Al] Boss Man and I
are feuding.
718
00:29:24,555 --> 00:29:28,142
At one point, Boss Man
kidnaps my dog, Pepper.
719
00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:31,896
Not only is it my dog,
this is my friend.
720
00:29:31,897 --> 00:29:33,105
[Al] I think the right thing
would be
721
00:29:33,106 --> 00:29:34,899
give me back
my friend!
722
00:29:35,024 --> 00:29:36,608
[Boss Man]
Oh, I am, Al.
723
00:29:36,609 --> 00:29:38,568
[Al] Boss Man says he'll
give me the dog back,
724
00:29:38,569 --> 00:29:40,822
but we have to sit down
and eat first.
725
00:29:40,823 --> 00:29:42,406
[Boss Man] Will you
do me a favor?
726
00:29:42,407 --> 00:29:45,617
Try not get one of them
paws stuck in your teeth.
727
00:29:45,618 --> 00:29:47,577
[Al] And then that's
when I find out...
728
00:29:47,578 --> 00:29:50,539
[Boss Man] That's right, Al.
100%...
729
00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:52,290
grade A Pepper!
730
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:53,542
[Al] Oh, no, no, no!
731
00:29:53,543 --> 00:29:55,460
[Al] He chopped it up,
cooked it,
732
00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,587
and then fed it to me.
733
00:29:57,588 --> 00:29:59,799
[Jim] What the fuck?
734
00:29:59,924 --> 00:30:02,176
[Lacy]
How do you explain...
735
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,803
to your friends that
your dad didn't chop
736
00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:07,389
some guy's dog up
and feed it to him?
737
00:30:07,390 --> 00:30:08,974
[Al] [vomiting]
738
00:30:08,975 --> 00:30:11,601
[Boss Man] Yeah,
tastes like chicken.
739
00:30:11,602 --> 00:30:13,770
[Jim] When fans today
talk about
740
00:30:13,771 --> 00:30:15,814
the worst moments
of wrestling...
741
00:30:15,815 --> 00:30:17,941
[Boss Man] But if I could
have a son as stupid as you,
742
00:30:17,942 --> 00:30:21,403
I'd have wished for cancer
so I would die too.
743
00:30:21,404 --> 00:30:24,364
[Jim] Fans talk about
Big Show's father's funeral.
744
00:30:24,365 --> 00:30:26,658
[screeching tires]
745
00:30:26,659 --> 00:30:28,452
[Gerry] All of a sudden,
Big Boss Man's
746
00:30:28,453 --> 00:30:30,162
taking a rope and chain.
747
00:30:30,163 --> 00:30:31,663
[Boss Man] Daddy always
wanted to be drag queen,
748
00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:32,748
Big Show.
749
00:30:32,749 --> 00:30:35,000
I'm gonna make him a
drag queen right here.
750
00:30:35,001 --> 00:30:37,051
[Gerry] And starts
dragging the casket.
751
00:30:37,170 --> 00:30:39,838
[Announcer] He's violent,
he's sadistic.
752
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,716
[Gerry] It was sick,
but it was great.
753
00:30:42,717 --> 00:30:44,719
[Announcer]
Boss Man is sick.
754
00:30:44,844 --> 00:30:47,722
[Lacy] I remember getting
mean mugged as a child,
755
00:30:47,847 --> 00:30:51,059
by teenagers, just
because of who he was.
756
00:30:51,184 --> 00:30:53,478
They know what to do
with that night stick.
757
00:30:53,603 --> 00:30:55,897
[Lacy] It was
embarrassing for me.
758
00:30:56,022 --> 00:30:57,272
?
759
00:30:57,273 --> 00:31:00,735
But, at the end of the day,
he was trying to get
760
00:31:00,860 --> 00:31:02,695
that check to
feed his family.
761
00:31:02,696 --> 00:31:04,029
[Announcer]
Oh, look out!
762
00:31:04,030 --> 00:31:06,698
[Lacy] I remember
being horrified,
763
00:31:06,699 --> 00:31:09,410
seeing him have a glass
busted over his head.
764
00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:10,702
[Announcer] Oh!
765
00:31:10,703 --> 00:31:14,706
[Lacy] And the glass doesn't
shatter how it's supposed to.
766
00:31:14,707 --> 00:31:16,918
He can't play with us
767
00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:19,670
'cause he's so beat up
from the road that,
768
00:31:19,671 --> 00:31:22,005
that we're bringing in
ice packs for him around
769
00:31:22,006 --> 00:31:25,385
the clock and he's just in
immense amount of pain.
770
00:31:25,386 --> 00:31:27,677
[Angela] He started
self-medicating,
771
00:31:27,678 --> 00:31:28,720
and then he
figured out, "Well,
772
00:31:28,721 --> 00:31:30,932
I can work as long
as I have medicine."
773
00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:33,058
?
774
00:31:33,059 --> 00:31:35,060
[Nick] The big thing was
these things called Somas.
775
00:31:35,061 --> 00:31:36,478
{\an8}They don't make
you quit hurting,
776
00:31:36,479 --> 00:31:38,398
{\an8}they just make
you not care.
777
00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:40,816
[Angela] Somas is a
muscle relaxer, and they,
778
00:31:40,817 --> 00:31:43,568
they were mixing them
with the pain pills.
779
00:31:43,569 --> 00:31:45,028
And if you didn't eat,
780
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:46,863
you would fall over
in your plate.
781
00:31:46,864 --> 00:31:48,532
To someone who doesn't
know what's going on,
782
00:31:48,533 --> 00:31:50,242
you would think
they're dying.
783
00:31:50,243 --> 00:31:55,247
?
784
00:31:55,248 --> 00:31:56,415
[Angela] It was really
heart breaking because
785
00:31:56,416 --> 00:31:59,376
I never seen Ray like this.
786
00:31:59,377 --> 00:32:01,587
Not having control.
787
00:32:01,713 --> 00:32:03,547
Excuse me.
788
00:32:03,548 --> 00:32:06,925
[Sighing]
789
00:32:06,926 --> 00:32:10,096
[Jim] All the guys are taking
something at some point.
790
00:32:10,221 --> 00:32:13,557
But with Bubba,
he wasn't a party guy.
791
00:32:13,558 --> 00:32:15,267
I wouldn't have ever dreamed
792
00:32:15,268 --> 00:32:18,729
he had any life
threatening problem.
793
00:32:18,730 --> 00:32:22,442
[Lacy] I remember just
being so mad at him
794
00:32:22,567 --> 00:32:24,359
when it got like that.
795
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,447
And I remember him
talking to me about it
796
00:32:27,572 --> 00:32:29,573
and apologizing.
797
00:32:29,574 --> 00:32:32,243
"Look, I'm sorry.
I'm in pain."
798
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,625
ite his i,
799
00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:43,629
Ray continues to work
a full-time schedule,
800
00:32:43,755 --> 00:32:47,841
increasing his dependency on
prescription pain killers.
801
00:32:47,842 --> 00:32:49,426
{\an8}[Angela] Ray probably
couldn't walk
802
00:32:49,427 --> 00:32:51,011
{\an8}without pain meds
at this point.
803
00:32:51,012 --> 00:32:53,056
His back was out,
his knees hurt him.
804
00:32:53,181 --> 00:32:55,348
I mean, he was just
in such bad shape.
805
00:32:55,349 --> 00:32:56,850
Whenever he goes
back on the road,
806
00:32:56,851 --> 00:32:59,770
he starts hitting the
medicine really heavy.
807
00:32:59,771 --> 00:33:02,773
[Narrator] Ray's addiction
is fueled by prescriptions
808
00:33:02,774 --> 00:33:05,942
from doctors
across the country.
809
00:33:05,943 --> 00:33:08,028
{\an8}[Nick] Back before
there was a database,
810
00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:10,030
we had doctors everywhere.
So, one guy,
811
00:33:10,031 --> 00:33:12,699
"Hey, I got a guy in Atlanta,"
bah-bah- boom.
812
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,452
[Angela] I knew Dr. Astin
when I was in my early 20s.
813
00:33:15,453 --> 00:33:17,580
He was a,
a diet pill doctor.
814
00:33:17,705 --> 00:33:19,915
?
815
00:33:19,916 --> 00:33:20,874
[Angela] And I guess Ray
must have asked him
816
00:33:20,875 --> 00:33:22,460
to write pain pills.
817
00:33:22,461 --> 00:33:24,086
Well, I think he was
kind of a wrestling fan,
818
00:33:24,087 --> 00:33:26,380
because he would write
whatever they told him.
819
00:33:26,381 --> 00:33:29,467
{\an8}[Lacy] A pill pusher,
a drug dealer.
820
00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,969
[Angela] You're giving
this man 150 Somas,
821
00:33:32,095 --> 00:33:34,554
150 pain pills,
testosterone too, you know,
822
00:33:34,555 --> 00:33:36,473
I mean,
whatever you want.
823
00:33:36,474 --> 00:33:39,976
[Lacy] It's like,
you have the money...
824
00:33:39,977 --> 00:33:41,144
people let you
do what you want,
825
00:33:41,145 --> 00:33:43,605
and I think
that's disgusting.
826
00:33:43,606 --> 00:33:46,067
[Nick] You can talk to
all the Atlanta guys
827
00:33:46,192 --> 00:33:48,652
from WCW or WWE,
828
00:33:48,653 --> 00:33:51,488
there's a ton of 'em that
came through there.
829
00:33:51,489 --> 00:33:54,199
So many of 'em are in
the graveyard right now.
830
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,284
?
831
00:33:56,285 --> 00:33:58,395
[Angela] And I knew
Chris was going there.
832
00:33:59,247 --> 00:34:01,165
{\an8}[Angela] Benoit.
833
00:34:01,166 --> 00:34:04,418
[News] New charges for the
Georgia doctor who treated
834
00:34:04,419 --> 00:34:07,504
a pro wrestler who killed
himself and his family.
835
00:34:07,505 --> 00:34:11,467
Dr. Phil Astin was charged
Thursday in a new 175-count
836
00:34:11,592 --> 00:34:13,803
federal indictment
with conspiracy and
837
00:34:13,928 --> 00:34:16,096
improperly
dispensing drugs.
838
00:34:16,097 --> 00:34:19,933
[Lacy] If I could say
something to Dr. Astin,
839
00:34:19,934 --> 00:34:21,977
I think I would
ask him if he knew.
840
00:34:21,978 --> 00:34:25,939
Did you know that
this medication
841
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:29,026
was as addictive
as it is?
842
00:34:29,027 --> 00:34:32,112
Did they ever
tell them,
843
00:34:32,113 --> 00:34:34,573
"Hey, you're gonna get
physiologically dependent
844
00:34:34,574 --> 00:34:37,618
upon this chemical and it's
gonna be hell on you
845
00:34:37,744 --> 00:34:40,330
to come off of"?
846
00:34:40,455 --> 00:34:42,790
"Did you know that...
847
00:34:44,292 --> 00:34:46,544
people were
gonna get hurt?"
848
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:52,342
[Narrator] In 2003,
Ray's contract expires,
849
00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:55,386
leaving him searching
for a new line of work.
850
00:34:55,387 --> 00:34:57,179
[Angela] A lot of people
don't know this, but
851
00:34:57,180 --> 00:35:00,308
he ran for commissioner
for Paulding County.
852
00:35:02,268 --> 00:35:04,061
The night of the election,
853
00:35:04,062 --> 00:35:06,271
Ray was messed up on pills.
854
00:35:06,272 --> 00:35:08,315
He couldn't even
hardly walk,
855
00:35:08,316 --> 00:35:10,068
but everybody protected him.
856
00:35:10,193 --> 00:35:12,654
And that was just a
breaking point for me.
857
00:35:12,779 --> 00:35:15,239
We separated.
858
00:35:15,365 --> 00:35:18,033
[Narrator] As Ray continues
battling addiction,
859
00:35:18,034 --> 00:35:21,078
a long-time friend
succumbs to theirs.
860
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:25,083
[Announcer] Mr. Perfect!
861
00:35:25,084 --> 00:35:26,667
[Nick] Your heart can
only take so much of
862
00:35:26,668 --> 00:35:28,127
certain things,
you know.
863
00:35:28,252 --> 00:35:30,796
And, you know,
we lost Curt.
864
00:35:30,797 --> 00:35:32,589
?
865
00:35:32,590 --> 00:35:34,800
[Angela] When Curt died, that
really bothered him a lot.
866
00:35:34,801 --> 00:35:38,553
There was definitely
Somas involved in it.
867
00:35:38,554 --> 00:35:41,640
[Nick] When somebody like
Curt Hennig passes away...
868
00:35:41,641 --> 00:35:44,435
you would think that that
would be a wakeup call.
869
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,145
But...
870
00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:49,440
look at how many
passed away since then.
871
00:35:49,565 --> 00:35:52,984
That's how strong
that stuff is
872
00:35:52,985 --> 00:35:54,069
[Announcer]
Terri did her damage,
873
00:35:54,070 --> 00:35:56,363
distracting Mark Mero.
And right here, boom!
874
00:35:56,364 --> 00:35:57,531
Oh, man!
875
00:35:57,532 --> 00:36:00,784
[Terri] Unless you were in
our world back in the day,
876
00:36:00,785 --> 00:36:03,662
in the late 80s,
the 90s,
877
00:36:03,663 --> 00:36:06,289
{\an8}Attitude Era,
you just have no clue.
878
00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:08,959
{\an8}Hi, everyone.
I am Terri Runnels,
879
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,336
{\an8}and Big Boss Man,
Ray Traylor,
880
00:36:11,337 --> 00:36:15,341
{\an8}is one of my
dearest friends.
881
00:36:15,466 --> 00:36:18,802
The reason we have so many
deaths in our industry,
882
00:36:18,803 --> 00:36:22,305
I believe, is because we
don't have an off-season.
883
00:36:22,306 --> 00:36:25,018
If you are injured,
884
00:36:25,143 --> 00:36:27,729
then you lose your spot.
885
00:36:27,854 --> 00:36:30,981
And then somebody else
comes in and takes your spot,
886
00:36:30,982 --> 00:36:33,316
and takes your
money, basically.
887
00:36:33,317 --> 00:36:34,985
[indistinct commentary]
888
00:36:34,986 --> 00:36:37,362
[Lacy] With these guys
in that era and
889
00:36:37,363 --> 00:36:39,072
the amount of pain
that they were in,
890
00:36:39,073 --> 00:36:42,701
it was just a by-product
of the industry.
891
00:36:42,702 --> 00:36:46,705
And sacrificing your body
to the sport like that.
892
00:36:46,706 --> 00:36:48,457
[Nick] You have to
make that decision.
893
00:36:48,458 --> 00:36:50,877
Am I gonna live
or am I gonna die?
894
00:36:51,002 --> 00:36:56,173
?
895
00:36:56,174 --> 00:36:57,883
[Lacy] After Curt
passed away,
896
00:36:57,884 --> 00:37:00,135
he had a change
of perspective.
897
00:37:00,136 --> 00:37:02,513
[Angela] He wasn't
a lost cause.
898
00:37:02,514 --> 00:37:04,514
He loved his family
enough that
899
00:37:04,515 --> 00:37:06,308
he was willing to do
what he had to.
900
00:37:06,309 --> 00:37:08,352
He said, "Can I come
back home?"
901
00:37:08,353 --> 00:37:11,229
He wanted us to renew our
vows and start all over.
902
00:37:11,230 --> 00:37:13,565
And that was
just perfect.
903
00:37:13,566 --> 00:37:17,153
And then, I never saw him
get messed up again.
904
00:37:17,154 --> 00:37:18,945
[Narrator] Returning
to his family,
905
00:37:18,946 --> 00:37:21,282
Ray maintains his sobriety,
906
00:37:21,407 --> 00:37:25,578
despite struggling
with chronic pain.
907
00:37:25,579 --> 00:37:27,371
[Angela] He was sitting on-
in front of the TV-
908
00:37:27,372 --> 00:37:28,623
his knees was hurting.
909
00:37:28,748 --> 00:37:31,792
He could not stop his
knees from hurting.
910
00:37:31,793 --> 00:37:34,378
He told the girls, you know,
"Daddy's hurting,
911
00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:37,464
and I'll be up there in about
30 minutes to tuck y'all."
912
00:37:37,465 --> 00:37:40,259
So, I went on up there
and I read to the girls.
913
00:37:40,385 --> 00:37:42,427
One of them wanted
something to drink.
914
00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:44,430
?
915
00:37:44,431 --> 00:37:45,847
[Angela] So when I
go down the stairs,
916
00:37:45,848 --> 00:37:48,643
he was just laying back
like this in the seat.
917
00:37:48,644 --> 00:37:50,143
You know, I didn't think
anything about it
918
00:37:50,144 --> 00:37:51,186
except for the color.
919
00:37:51,187 --> 00:37:53,438
His color just
didn't look right.
920
00:37:53,439 --> 00:37:56,900
?
921
00:37:56,901 --> 00:38:00,445
[Lacy] I'll never forget it,
when we heard Mom scream.
922
00:38:00,446 --> 00:38:03,616
?
923
00:38:03,741 --> 00:38:05,826
[Angela] Got the phone,
I'm calling 911.
924
00:38:05,827 --> 00:38:07,661
She's telling me I gotta
get him out of the chair
925
00:38:07,662 --> 00:38:08,662
and put him flat
on the ground.
926
00:38:08,663 --> 00:38:11,332
I'm like, "You don't know
what you're asking."
927
00:38:11,333 --> 00:38:12,749
She said, "I don't care
what you gotta do,
928
00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:14,620
you gotta get him
flat on the ground."
929
00:38:14,669 --> 00:38:17,171
?
930
00:38:17,296 --> 00:38:19,924
[Lacy] I had just
learned CPR
931
00:38:20,049 --> 00:38:21,467
in health class that week,
932
00:38:21,592 --> 00:38:23,803
and so, I started
chest compressions.
933
00:38:23,928 --> 00:38:27,681
?
934
00:38:27,682 --> 00:38:30,017
[Lacy] I just remember
hoping that
935
00:38:30,018 --> 00:38:33,730
I'm compressing
hard enough.
936
00:38:33,855 --> 00:38:35,689
And just...
937
00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:39,152
you know, saying to God
in your head...
938
00:38:39,277 --> 00:38:41,738
"Please let him live."
939
00:38:41,863 --> 00:38:44,115
?
940
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,616
[Lacy] Like,
it's like I could...
941
00:38:46,617 --> 00:38:51,496
like, taste his last breath
on my, my mouth.
942
00:38:51,497 --> 00:38:54,666
?
943
00:38:54,667 --> 00:38:57,794
[Lacy] And I knew
in that moment...
944
00:38:57,795 --> 00:38:59,338
that- [Sighing]-
945
00:38:59,339 --> 00:39:01,883
that my life
changed forever.
946
00:39:08,097 --> 00:39:11,017
On September 22nd 2004,
947
00:39:11,142 --> 00:39:13,352
at 41 years of age,
948
00:39:13,353 --> 00:39:15,812
Ray Traylor dies
of a heart attack.
949
00:39:15,813 --> 00:39:17,314
[Angela] Of course,
his whole family have
950
00:39:17,315 --> 00:39:19,858
all died of heart issues
really young.
951
00:39:19,859 --> 00:39:22,486
?
952
00:39:22,487 --> 00:39:24,739
[Lacy] You have
survivor's guilt, right?
953
00:39:24,864 --> 00:39:28,158
Is it my fault?
Did I do it right?
954
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:31,371
People would say to me,
"I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry."
955
00:39:31,496 --> 00:39:34,790
Or, "I know how you feel."
No, you don't.
956
00:39:34,791 --> 00:39:36,876
You, you don't.
957
00:39:37,001 --> 00:39:38,377
[Jim] Bubba Rogers!
958
00:39:38,378 --> 00:39:39,753
Bubba's an old friend of
the Cornette family from
959
00:39:39,754 --> 00:39:41,296
Louisville, Kentucky,
and he's been a friend
960
00:39:41,297 --> 00:39:42,882
for a long time!
961
00:39:42,883 --> 00:39:44,591
Me and The Midnight
Express were like
962
00:39:44,592 --> 00:39:47,095
a week away
from our first reunion.
963
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:48,929
?
964
00:39:48,930 --> 00:39:52,100
And he died like the week
before the first one we did.
965
00:39:52,225 --> 00:39:56,896
?
966
00:39:57,021 --> 00:39:58,897
Gimme a second.
967
00:39:58,898 --> 00:40:00,524
?
968
00:40:00,525 --> 00:40:02,359
The baddest man
in the world,
969
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,071
Big Bubba Rogers!
970
00:40:05,196 --> 00:40:07,448
?
971
00:40:07,573 --> 00:40:10,868
1986 was my favorite year
in wrestling because...
972
00:40:10,869 --> 00:40:13,078
I was with my friends,
The Midnight Express,
973
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:15,206
and Bubba became
the fourth member.
974
00:40:15,207 --> 00:40:16,415
[Announcer]
Watch out, Bubba!
975
00:40:16,416 --> 00:40:18,667
[Jim] We were
both early 20s,
976
00:40:18,668 --> 00:40:21,169
making a
fucking fortune.
977
00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:22,754
[Announcer] He's gonna
win that cage match, baby.
978
00:40:22,755 --> 00:40:24,882
[Jim] Living our dream.
979
00:40:25,007 --> 00:40:27,551
And, I think that was
just my favorite time
980
00:40:27,552 --> 00:40:29,428
'cause I don't know that
it was that fun anymore
981
00:40:29,429 --> 00:40:30,722
after that.
982
00:40:30,847 --> 00:40:33,098
I liked that
fucking guy.
983
00:40:33,099 --> 00:40:37,103
?
984
00:40:37,228 --> 00:40:40,273
[Lacy] I was so
traumatized by his death.
985
00:40:40,398 --> 00:40:43,484
It took me over
a decade to...
986
00:40:43,609 --> 00:40:45,235
to even be able to, like,
987
00:40:45,236 --> 00:40:48,656
think about his
wrestling career.
988
00:40:48,781 --> 00:40:51,492
I felt robbed a little bit
989
00:40:51,617 --> 00:40:55,704
'cause I was so young
when he passed away.
990
00:40:55,705 --> 00:40:58,624
For a long time,
I felt angry.
991
00:40:58,750 --> 00:41:00,876
I really, really got
992
00:41:00,877 --> 00:41:03,962
cynical there
for a little bit.
993
00:41:03,963 --> 00:41:06,131
I'm amazed that
I've made it, like,
994
00:41:06,132 --> 00:41:08,300
to the age I am now.
995
00:41:08,301 --> 00:41:10,635
I've struggled,
I've overcome stuff,
996
00:41:10,636 --> 00:41:12,471
I've messed up...
997
00:41:12,472 --> 00:41:14,474
and had to fix it.
998
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,476
I'm grateful that in
spite of my trauma,
999
00:41:17,477 --> 00:41:19,479
it doesn't define me.
1000
00:41:19,604 --> 00:41:21,647
I work in the
behavioural health space.
1001
00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:23,816
We like to say addiction
1002
00:41:23,941 --> 00:41:26,818
is the opposite
of connection.
1003
00:41:26,819 --> 00:41:30,113
I used to worry that
speaking about
1004
00:41:30,114 --> 00:41:32,324
the struggle that he had,
1005
00:41:32,325 --> 00:41:35,161
that people
would hate me for it.
1006
00:41:35,286 --> 00:41:37,496
But now I really
realize that
1007
00:41:37,497 --> 00:41:39,164
it's important
to talk about.
1008
00:41:39,165 --> 00:41:41,249
It's a part of his story,
and it's a part of my story,
1009
00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:44,003
because...
it was hard.
1010
00:41:44,004 --> 00:41:45,962
[Angela] The teachable story
here is that there's always
1011
00:41:45,963 --> 00:41:47,923
a comeback if you
want it, you know.
1012
00:41:47,924 --> 00:41:49,914
And it lets people
know they can change.
1013
00:41:50,009 --> 00:41:51,928
?
1014
00:41:51,929 --> 00:41:54,012
[Lacy] I never thought I
would've liked wrestling.
1015
00:41:54,013 --> 00:41:57,015
But, really, I would say
into my 20s,
1016
00:41:57,016 --> 00:41:59,184
it clicked for me.
1017
00:41:59,185 --> 00:42:03,522
? If you ever take a trip down
to Cobb County, Georgia ?
1018
00:42:03,523 --> 00:42:05,649
? You better read the signs... ?
1019
00:42:05,650 --> 00:42:07,818
[Lacy] In 2016, for the
Hall of Fame,
1020
00:42:07,819 --> 00:42:10,862
my coworkers' like,
"Big Boss Man's your dad?"
1021
00:42:10,863 --> 00:42:12,407
And I was like, "Yeah."
1022
00:42:12,532 --> 00:42:14,533
And they were like,
"That is so cool!"
1023
00:42:14,534 --> 00:42:15,867
And I was like,
"Wait, y'all-
1024
00:42:15,868 --> 00:42:17,869
you guys think
this is cool?"
1025
00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:21,082
I want to start off by just
saying thank you to
1026
00:42:21,207 --> 00:42:22,499
all the fans for keeping
1027
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:24,793
Dad's memory
alive all these years.
1028
00:42:24,794 --> 00:42:27,671
As you grow older,
and you have hindsight,
1029
00:42:27,672 --> 00:42:30,841
how blessed am I to have
gotten to share him
1030
00:42:30,842 --> 00:42:32,885
with so many people?
1031
00:42:33,011 --> 00:42:37,223
[cheering]
1032
00:42:37,224 --> 00:42:39,641
[Angela] When Ray went into
the ring, he had the stick.
1033
00:42:39,642 --> 00:42:41,602
But when he came home,
he had his heart.
1034
00:42:41,728 --> 00:42:43,729
And he loved his family.
1035
00:42:43,730 --> 00:42:44,980
And, everyone
that knew Ray
1036
00:42:44,981 --> 00:42:47,858
knows how he
loved his family.
1037
00:42:47,859 --> 00:42:50,694
[Ray] Say, Mommy
and Daddy love you.
1038
00:42:50,695 --> 00:42:53,864
[Angela] The thing I miss
most is, with Ray,
1039
00:42:53,865 --> 00:42:56,784
is the fact that, he smiles,
everyone smiles.
1040
00:42:56,785 --> 00:42:58,327
Any time that goes by
that you have a Ray
1041
00:42:58,328 --> 00:43:01,204
conversation that you don't
remember something funny.
1042
00:43:01,205 --> 00:43:02,915
[Ray] Now that is a butt.
1043
00:43:03,041 --> 00:43:05,792
[Laughing]
1044
00:43:05,793 --> 00:43:09,422
[Lacy] Yeah.
God, I love his laugh.
1045
00:43:09,547 --> 00:43:11,256
[Laughing]
1046
00:43:11,257 --> 00:43:15,719
[Ray & Lacy laughing]
1047
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:18,096
[Al] I think Ray's legacy
in the wrestling business
1048
00:43:18,097 --> 00:43:21,558
is that he'll be one of
those all-time villains,
1049
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:23,770
and a wonderful
human being.
1050
00:43:23,895 --> 00:43:26,521
[Laughing] Even though
Ray fed me my dog,
1051
00:43:26,522 --> 00:43:29,191
I still think he was
a great guy.
1052
00:43:29,192 --> 00:43:32,320
[Jim] The Big Boss Man should
be remembered by all the fans
1053
00:43:32,445 --> 00:43:35,281
and the kids who liked him
and looked up to him...
1054
00:43:35,406 --> 00:43:37,616
law, order, and justice.
1055
00:43:37,617 --> 00:43:39,494
I remember Bubba.
1056
00:43:39,619 --> 00:43:42,204
{\an8}?
1057
00:43:42,205 --> 00:43:44,832
{\an8}[Jim] To me, he was
just a great guy.
1058
00:43:44,957 --> 00:43:46,875
{\an8}?
1059
00:43:46,876 --> 00:43:48,669
{\an8}[Angela] Ray Traylor, if I
could speak to you today,
1060
00:43:48,670 --> 00:43:50,587
{\an8}I would tell you
how much I love you,
1061
00:43:50,588 --> 00:43:51,671
{\an8}and we still love you,
and you still
1062
00:43:51,672 --> 00:43:54,633
{\an8}make us laugh and
you always will.
1063
00:43:54,634 --> 00:43:57,845
{\an8}[Lacy] I love ya.
Um, and thank you.
1064
00:43:57,846 --> 00:44:00,147
{\an8}[Angela] Thank you for being
such a wonderful person.
1065
00:44:00,148 --> 00:44:04,698
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