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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,022 --> 00:00:04,370 Previously on the "In The City" reunion-- 2 00:00:04,630 --> 00:00:06,129 How many people are you sleeping with? 3 00:00:06,130 --> 00:00:07,249 And how-- - No, it was Sally. 4 00:00:08,001 --> 00:00:09,035 - soon after. - It was Sally. 5 00:00:09,036 --> 00:00:10,042 OK, just Sally. 6 00:00:10,043 --> 00:00:12,029 I think you were, off the bat, defensive. 7 00:00:12,169 --> 00:00:13,409 As I should be. 8 00:00:13,410 --> 00:00:15,609 I almost threw up watching this last night. 9 00:00:15,610 --> 00:00:18,008 Whitney, can you name any other instance where 10 00:00:18,009 --> 00:00:20,609 Lindsay played the mom card? 11 00:00:20,610 --> 00:00:21,909 You feel like you're a little more 12 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:23,228 deserving than other people. 13 00:00:23,229 --> 00:00:26,328 You know I cried about what you said for six months. 14 00:00:26,329 --> 00:00:28,288 And the only time I didn't fucking cry about it 15 00:00:28,289 --> 00:00:29,790 was when you had a scandal. 16 00:00:29,950 --> 00:00:31,989 So thank you, Amanda, for taking me out of that. 17 00:00:31,990 --> 00:00:34,649 The dramatic conclusion of the "In the City" 18 00:00:34,650 --> 00:00:36,309 reunion starts now. 19 00:00:38,550 --> 00:00:40,369 I-- I came out here just now. 20 00:00:40,370 --> 00:00:42,090 And I apologized for it. And-- 21 00:00:42,529 --> 00:00:43,549 OK, well, you're going to need 22 00:00:43,550 --> 00:00:47,628 15 more apologies to any mom in the entire world. 23 00:00:47,629 --> 00:00:49,208 It wasn't about that. 24 00:00:49,209 --> 00:00:51,648 I'm sorry that it-- it came out that way. 25 00:00:51,649 --> 00:00:52,289 But it wasn't-- 26 00:00:52,290 --> 00:00:53,229 A really poor choice of words. 27 00:00:53,230 --> 00:00:54,329 Lindsay, you collect apologies 28 00:00:54,330 --> 00:00:55,370 like you collect souls. 29 00:00:55,649 --> 00:00:56,849 How many times do you want her to apologize? 30 00:00:56,998 --> 00:00:58,049 The biggest, important, role of my life-- 31 00:00:58,170 --> 00:00:59,328 How many times do you want her 32 00:00:59,329 --> 00:01:00,390 to acknowledge and apologize? 33 00:01:00,890 --> 00:01:01,889 How many times, Lindsay? 34 00:01:01,890 --> 00:01:03,227 Well, I don't accept it for now. 35 00:01:03,228 --> 00:01:03,889 OK. 36 00:01:03,890 --> 00:01:05,229 I'd like to hear from Yvonne. 37 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:09,169 I understand where Lindsay's coming from because I have seen 38 00:01:09,170 --> 00:01:12,130 her go through hell last year. 39 00:01:12,229 --> 00:01:13,649 I wasn't trying to demean any of that. 40 00:01:13,650 --> 00:01:14,512 - You were-- - I know but-- 41 00:01:14,513 --> 00:01:15,239 And Yvonne-- why didn't you talk to Yvonne? 42 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:15,849 I'm just trying to say, like, I wasn't-- 43 00:01:15,850 --> 00:01:18,209 I just was, like, a little offended 44 00:01:18,210 --> 00:01:22,470 that, like, you were saying were standing up for me 45 00:01:22,709 --> 00:01:25,848 but then somehow tying me to what you said about her and-- 46 00:01:25,849 --> 00:01:27,848 Well, again, what did Lindsay and Georgina say when they-- 47 00:01:27,849 --> 00:01:29,848 Listen, Lindsay and Georgina, at the top of the stairs-- 48 00:01:29,849 --> 00:01:30,567 - I can't. - they were not-- 49 00:01:30,568 --> 00:01:31,448 That's fine. 50 00:01:31,449 --> 00:01:33,629 You guys were not being that nice at the top of the stairs. 51 00:01:33,849 --> 00:01:34,849 Like, we were in a fight. 52 00:01:35,190 --> 00:01:37,949 And you guys weren't really willing to be like, OK, great, 53 00:01:38,130 --> 00:01:39,228 let's give her the room. 54 00:01:39,229 --> 00:01:39,896 All I said was that we're taking this room. 55 00:01:39,897 --> 00:01:40,565 That was a separate thing. 56 00:01:40,566 --> 00:01:41,566 It was a sweet gesture, which was nice. 57 00:01:41,710 --> 00:01:44,030 And you guys were kind of being, you know. 58 00:01:45,170 --> 00:01:46,349 Yvonne, Lindsay and I also, like-- 59 00:01:46,489 --> 00:01:47,869 You were being a little crazy that day. 60 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:50,189 We are-- look, but I think that's a separate conversation 61 00:01:50,709 --> 00:01:52,810 than what happened after. 62 00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:56,188 So Yvonne, we saw you make up during the Connecticut trip. 63 00:01:56,189 --> 00:01:56,982 Yeah. 64 00:01:56,983 --> 00:01:57,988 So where do things stand now? 65 00:01:57,989 --> 00:02:00,890 I mean, we-- we talk to each other a hundred times a day. 66 00:02:01,209 --> 00:02:02,289 We're always on the phone. 67 00:02:02,810 --> 00:02:03,809 We-- 68 00:02:03,810 --> 00:02:05,829 Nick, do you feel like you're in a relationship with Lindsay? 69 00:02:06,149 --> 00:02:07,269 I'll let Lindsay answer that. 70 00:02:07,590 --> 00:02:09,287 What do you usually say when I walk in? 71 00:02:09,288 --> 00:02:10,288 We're in a throuple. 72 00:02:11,149 --> 00:02:12,149 She says, hello, husband. 73 00:02:12,329 --> 00:02:14,128 Yeah, they are as close as ever. 74 00:02:14,430 --> 00:02:17,208 And being around them makes me, like, happy 75 00:02:17,209 --> 00:02:19,628 that they found each other and have been friends for so long. 76 00:02:19,629 --> 00:02:21,369 Because their loyalty and their bond is, like-- 77 00:02:21,370 --> 00:02:23,769 is closer than sisters. 78 00:02:24,010 --> 00:02:24,779 - Yeah. - Yeah. 79 00:02:24,780 --> 00:02:25,628 That's nice. 80 00:02:25,629 --> 00:02:26,629 Yeah. 81 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:30,189 All right, armed with a handy list of Danielle's missteps 82 00:02:30,190 --> 00:02:34,309 on her phone, Lindsay went into the season avoiding her old pal 83 00:02:34,310 --> 00:02:36,269 like it was her job. 84 00:02:36,649 --> 00:02:38,828 Meanwhile, Danielle thought Lindsay and Amanda 85 00:02:38,829 --> 00:02:41,669 were being jerks for investigating Eoin 86 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:44,110 like a couple of private dicks. 87 00:02:44,289 --> 00:02:48,050 Take a look at this tug of war between old friends. 88 00:02:48,589 --> 00:02:51,050 You're like, I want the best for Lindsay. 89 00:02:51,209 --> 00:02:53,669 But the delivery is just, like, fucked. 90 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:54,648 Yeah. 91 00:02:54,649 --> 00:02:57,929 100% apologize if that's the way my tone and my message 92 00:02:57,930 --> 00:02:58,528 came across. 93 00:02:58,529 --> 00:02:58,708 Yeah. 94 00:02:58,709 --> 00:03:01,630 She's moving in with this man who's still married. 95 00:03:02,170 --> 00:03:03,169 What? 96 00:03:03,170 --> 00:03:05,028 You're blowing my mind right now! 97 00:03:05,029 --> 00:03:06,029 I need you to stop. 98 00:03:06,250 --> 00:03:08,969 It was a fucking blog that called me a homewrecker. 99 00:03:09,143 --> 00:03:11,054 And the reason why he was getting fucking divorced 100 00:03:11,228 --> 00:03:12,270 was because of me. 101 00:03:12,410 --> 00:03:13,850 - Is this not the truth? - That's-- 102 00:03:14,190 --> 00:03:15,229 - What is not the truth? - I'm out. 103 00:03:15,230 --> 00:03:16,290 I'm out. I'm out. 104 00:03:16,291 --> 00:03:17,290 I'm out. - What are you talking about? 105 00:03:17,291 --> 00:03:18,175 She thinks that that's fucking true. 106 00:03:18,176 --> 00:03:18,605 - I didn't-- - Go fuck yourself. 107 00:03:18,606 --> 00:03:19,508 Wait. What? 108 00:03:19,509 --> 00:03:22,370 You've been wanting to find information about my man. 109 00:03:22,509 --> 00:03:24,948 Why is it that I'm the one bringing this shit up? 110 00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:26,588 I only operate on facts. 111 00:03:26,589 --> 00:03:29,849 I was literally trying to clear Eoin's name 112 00:03:29,850 --> 00:03:30,588 so people wouldn't-- 113 00:03:30,589 --> 00:03:32,029 Why does he have to clear his name? 114 00:03:32,269 --> 00:03:33,409 He doesn't know the-- 115 00:03:33,410 --> 00:03:34,189 I'm the one-- 116 00:03:34,190 --> 00:03:36,049 Then why is he on this fucking show? 117 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:38,088 Because I introduced him to you fuckers. 118 00:03:38,089 --> 00:03:39,629 Why are you on the fucking show? 119 00:03:41,090 --> 00:03:42,090 Oh. 120 00:03:42,269 --> 00:03:44,410 That's where-- that's what it is! 121 00:03:44,547 --> 00:03:45,546 If you don't want to talk about your-- the girl 122 00:03:45,547 --> 00:03:46,510 in white should leave. 123 00:03:46,511 --> 00:03:47,617 It's fucking pink, you bitch. 124 00:03:48,889 --> 00:03:50,388 Danielle, what was your reaction 125 00:03:50,389 --> 00:03:53,649 to Lindsay's detailed list of all of your misdeeds? 126 00:03:53,870 --> 00:03:55,250 Honestly, I was shocked-- 127 00:03:57,089 --> 00:04:03,569 season-by-season account of these grievances, some of which 128 00:04:03,570 --> 00:04:05,690 I was, like, very, very surprised about. 129 00:04:05,866 --> 00:04:06,896 I just-- 130 00:04:06,897 --> 00:04:07,963 The hand job. 131 00:04:07,964 --> 00:04:09,350 I didn't think that our friendship 132 00:04:09,529 --> 00:04:11,689 came to-- came to that. 133 00:04:12,250 --> 00:04:14,670 It was giving Kyle's 17-page email. 134 00:04:15,209 --> 00:04:17,268 I'm not going to pretend like-- 135 00:04:17,269 --> 00:04:18,849 He didn't send a 17-page email. 136 00:04:18,850 --> 00:04:19,849 Yeah. 137 00:04:19,850 --> 00:04:20,809 I'm a volcano. 138 00:04:20,810 --> 00:04:23,689 I erupted in the form of a 17-page 139 00:04:23,690 --> 00:04:26,390 email sent to the entire house from last summer. 140 00:04:26,570 --> 00:04:29,930 I think my whole point in that moment was, you know, 141 00:04:30,090 --> 00:04:33,449 last March, when we met for lunch, I was, like, 142 00:04:33,450 --> 00:04:34,450 really excited. 143 00:04:35,129 --> 00:04:36,739 You know, we had a really great day. 144 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:37,669 You met Gemma. 145 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:38,690 You came over afterwards. 146 00:04:39,209 --> 00:04:41,430 We spent, like, four or five hours together. 147 00:04:41,850 --> 00:04:45,109 And then, boom, the show was airing, confessional 148 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:45,968 after confessional. 149 00:04:45,969 --> 00:04:46,969 And I was like, you know what? 150 00:04:47,150 --> 00:04:48,969 But you came to me for the-- 151 00:04:48,970 --> 00:04:51,249 the one that you thought-- 152 00:04:51,250 --> 00:04:52,109 I texted you. 153 00:04:52,110 --> 00:04:52,309 Yeah. 154 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:56,349 Yeah, about Carl and how you thought that I was, 155 00:04:56,350 --> 00:04:58,109 like-- you were putting it in Carl's face 156 00:04:58,110 --> 00:04:59,229 about the gender reveal. 157 00:04:59,230 --> 00:05:00,249 - Yeah, you said that-- - Right. 158 00:05:00,250 --> 00:05:01,089 in your confessional. 159 00:05:01,090 --> 00:05:02,049 And what? 160 00:05:02,050 --> 00:05:04,009 So then you were fed up, and you couldn't 161 00:05:04,010 --> 00:05:05,589 text me about the other stuff. 162 00:05:05,590 --> 00:05:06,408 Like-- 163 00:05:06,409 --> 00:05:09,229 I mean, how many more texts do I need to send about, like-- 164 00:05:09,230 --> 00:05:10,810 Honestly, just-- I think it was-- 165 00:05:10,910 --> 00:05:12,470 I thought it was just the one more. 166 00:05:12,569 --> 00:05:13,918 If I can weigh in, knowing you guys 167 00:05:13,919 --> 00:05:16,129 and knowing your friendship, it was kind of blow 168 00:05:16,130 --> 00:05:19,709 after blow with some of those scenes from season 9, 169 00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:20,739 the beach, the confessionals. 170 00:05:20,740 --> 00:05:23,029 Like, I actually understood exactly 171 00:05:23,030 --> 00:05:24,750 where Lindsay was coming from. 172 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:27,709 I don't think you were actually doing it with a lot 173 00:05:27,710 --> 00:05:28,730 of, like, ill intent. 174 00:05:29,047 --> 00:05:30,081 - No-- - But it-- 175 00:05:30,290 --> 00:05:31,789 --- I would say. - But it added up. 176 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:34,569 In the moment, truly, like, when it came out in April, I-- 177 00:05:34,670 --> 00:05:36,590 I was not tuned in. 178 00:05:36,810 --> 00:05:37,809 I wasn't. 179 00:05:37,810 --> 00:05:40,369 When you were filling me in, that's-- that was me 180 00:05:40,370 --> 00:05:41,573 hearing it for the first time. - Right. 181 00:05:41,574 --> 00:05:42,489 So-- - I apologize. 182 00:05:42,490 --> 00:05:45,050 It's on me to watch the show. 183 00:05:45,450 --> 00:05:47,069 Well, Lindsay, Nay from Delaware, 184 00:05:47,070 --> 00:05:49,309 said, why does Danielle owe you loyalty 185 00:05:49,310 --> 00:05:50,629 that you never showed her? 186 00:05:50,830 --> 00:05:53,930 Carl was Danielle's ex and very good friend first. 187 00:05:54,170 --> 00:05:56,109 Where was that loyalty you expect 188 00:05:56,110 --> 00:05:57,170 your friends to give you? 189 00:05:57,310 --> 00:05:58,829 I think that's a great question. 190 00:05:58,980 --> 00:06:02,090 And I'm glad that whoever from wherever said this. 191 00:06:04,110 --> 00:06:04,609 Who was it? 192 00:06:04,610 --> 00:06:05,389 Nay from Delaware. 193 00:06:05,390 --> 00:06:08,110 Nay from Delaware, thank you for that question. 194 00:06:09,550 --> 00:06:11,789 Danielle and Carl-- correct me if I'm wrong. 195 00:06:11,790 --> 00:06:12,609 You know it better. 196 00:06:12,610 --> 00:06:15,390 It was your life-- you guys dated for about a month. 197 00:06:15,870 --> 00:06:16,629 Three months but sure. 198 00:06:16,630 --> 00:06:21,409 OK, three months, about a year before his "Summer House" 199 00:06:21,410 --> 00:06:22,710 season 1 started filming. 200 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:25,170 Yeah, so it would have been 2016 or something like that. 201 00:06:25,270 --> 00:06:26,269 OK. 202 00:06:26,270 --> 00:06:30,430 And they-- it seemed like a very, very casual thing. 203 00:06:30,730 --> 00:06:33,909 When you came in on season 2, like, 204 00:06:33,910 --> 00:06:35,849 we started-- by the end of season 205 00:06:35,850 --> 00:06:38,389 2, we-- that's when we really developed our friendship. 206 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:39,129 Mm-hmm. 207 00:06:39,130 --> 00:06:43,769 By season 4, when Carl and I started whatever, 208 00:06:43,770 --> 00:06:45,090 the no-kiss finger bang-- 209 00:06:45,329 --> 00:06:46,328 Great song. 210 00:06:46,329 --> 00:06:47,328 I wonder who wrote that. 211 00:06:48,386 --> 00:06:50,429 ♪ - # Fuck this first, second base 212 00:06:50,430 --> 00:06:56,569 ♪ bullshit, finger blasting. ♪ 213 00:06:56,570 --> 00:06:57,551 Yeah! 214 00:06:57,552 --> 00:06:58,618 ♪ ♪ Finger blasting ♪ 215 00:06:59,388 --> 00:07:00,235 Oh, shit. 216 00:07:00,236 --> 00:07:00,899 I was, like, very upfront. 217 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:04,249 You framed it as if you guys were in this relationship. 218 00:07:04,250 --> 00:07:06,810 And you guys were not in a relationship. 219 00:07:06,954 --> 00:07:07,986 No, no, I didn't frame it as that. 220 00:07:07,987 --> 00:07:09,364 When you frame it as that Kyle about it, 221 00:07:09,470 --> 00:07:11,489 you were like, it was before our engagement and 222 00:07:11,490 --> 00:07:12,890 the first time we broke up. 223 00:07:13,329 --> 00:07:15,089 Before Carl and I got engaged, 224 00:07:15,090 --> 00:07:17,549 she gave him a hand job in the back of an Uber 225 00:07:17,550 --> 00:07:19,530 a week after we broke up. 226 00:07:19,629 --> 00:07:20,970 Ha. 227 00:07:21,070 --> 00:07:22,610 Oh, I see what you're saying. 228 00:07:22,750 --> 00:07:26,170 As far as, like, the OTPHJ in the back of the Uber, 229 00:07:26,315 --> 00:07:27,333 that's what you're talking about. 230 00:07:27,478 --> 00:07:29,020 Well, you said it was a hand job, and it was not. 231 00:07:29,165 --> 00:07:30,211 Carl lied then. 232 00:07:30,212 --> 00:07:31,724 Well, what are the last two words of OTPHJ? 233 00:07:31,870 --> 00:07:33,770 I just-- there was nothing sexual 234 00:07:33,991 --> 00:07:35,405 going on between him and I. - Over-the-pants hand job. 235 00:07:35,406 --> 00:07:36,406 Hand job. Thank you, Andy. 236 00:07:36,530 --> 00:07:37,568 And I just think I'm tired of, like, 237 00:07:37,569 --> 00:07:39,128 the oversexualization of it. 238 00:07:39,129 --> 00:07:40,610 Like, it just-- it wasn't that. 239 00:07:40,990 --> 00:07:42,869 You positioned it as something very sexual. 240 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:43,888 Did you give him a hand job in the Uber? 241 00:07:43,889 --> 00:07:44,888 - No, I did not. - OK. 242 00:07:44,889 --> 00:07:45,837 - Kyle, then-- - Carl lied. 243 00:07:45,838 --> 00:07:46,709 Did you touch him over the pants? 244 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:48,489 It was an over-the-pants situation. 245 00:07:48,490 --> 00:07:49,629 But it wasn't that, either. 246 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:51,149 Well, I mean, is it just rubbing 247 00:07:51,150 --> 00:07:53,502 his dick through his pants? - I wasn't there. 248 00:07:53,503 --> 00:07:54,562 I was in Mexico. 249 00:07:54,563 --> 00:07:56,881 It was just like, why is it always something new happens? 250 00:07:57,070 --> 00:07:58,070 There was the hand job. 251 00:07:58,170 --> 00:07:59,449 There was this happened. 252 00:07:59,450 --> 00:08:00,269 That happened. 253 00:08:00,270 --> 00:08:02,030 But that-- but you're-- this is what you do, Lindsay. 254 00:08:02,389 --> 00:08:04,408 You-- you basically bring up these kind 255 00:08:04,409 --> 00:08:05,409 of-- these fabrications. 256 00:08:05,610 --> 00:08:07,267 You put in lies, truths, just random-- 257 00:08:07,268 --> 00:08:08,129 It's not a fabrication. 258 00:08:08,130 --> 00:08:09,929 I wasn't there in the back of that Uber. 259 00:08:09,930 --> 00:08:10,929 Exactly. So prove that it happened. 260 00:08:10,930 --> 00:08:12,789 It was just a bad friend move. 261 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:13,413 But it's a lie, though. 262 00:08:13,414 --> 00:08:14,128 It was just a bad friend move. 263 00:08:14,129 --> 00:08:15,850 - OK, so what's your-- - That was my entire point. 264 00:08:16,027 --> 00:08:17,408 It was an issue then. 265 00:08:17,585 --> 00:08:19,072 It's-- it was crazy to me that it's an issue six years later. 266 00:08:19,250 --> 00:08:20,888 OK, well, let me ask you this, Danielle. 267 00:08:20,889 --> 00:08:21,874 Because I was protecting you, Danielle. 268 00:08:21,875 --> 00:08:22,888 I made sure not to talk about it. 269 00:08:22,889 --> 00:08:24,449 OK, let me ask this, Danielle. 270 00:08:24,624 --> 00:08:28,377 DanaToddPope on Threads said, do you secretly resent Lindsay 271 00:08:28,516 --> 00:08:30,410 for dating Carl after you? 272 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:32,049 You act like you're best friends. 273 00:08:32,210 --> 00:08:34,529 But you hate on her to her face. 274 00:08:34,688 --> 00:08:36,629 You even gave-- you even gave him a hand job. 275 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:38,209 I'd rather hate on someone to their face, 276 00:08:38,210 --> 00:08:39,809 by the way, than ever do it behind their back. 277 00:08:40,030 --> 00:08:42,509 And I'm, like-- I know I'm direct, and my choice of 278 00:08:42,510 --> 00:08:42,989 words sucks. 279 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:44,969 But you know what you're getting with me. 280 00:08:44,970 --> 00:08:46,989 And I'm not a mystery. 281 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:51,609 And my intentions, by the way, are always in the right place. 282 00:08:51,610 --> 00:08:52,608 And do I mince words? 283 00:08:52,609 --> 00:08:54,089 Do I suck at communication? 284 00:08:54,090 --> 00:08:55,029 Sometimes, yes. 285 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:57,069 And I will own that till I'm blue in the face. 286 00:08:57,230 --> 00:08:58,809 Tell me where the two of you are now. 287 00:08:59,729 --> 00:09:00,729 Honestly, I was-- 288 00:09:00,909 --> 00:09:04,190 I was really upset watching some of-- 289 00:09:04,490 --> 00:09:07,909 the googling of Eoin really set me-- 290 00:09:07,910 --> 00:09:10,089 set me off a little bit. 291 00:09:10,090 --> 00:09:14,069 I didn't know about the entire Notes grievance list. 292 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:16,369 You know, it just-- it just seems 293 00:09:16,370 --> 00:09:18,190 like it set us so far back. 294 00:09:19,250 --> 00:09:20,669 I also, we also have a kid coming. 295 00:09:20,949 --> 00:09:22,528 I mean, we have-- we have a kid. 296 00:09:22,529 --> 00:09:24,089 We have a-- I have a pregnant partner. 297 00:09:24,510 --> 00:09:27,589 We can't really be dealing with a lot of this toxic stuff. 298 00:09:27,769 --> 00:09:28,769 A lot of this group is-- 299 00:09:28,859 --> 00:09:30,108 Isn't that so crazy, Eoin? 300 00:09:30,109 --> 00:09:31,108 Yeah, it's crazy. 301 00:09:31,109 --> 00:09:32,879 Yeah. - Lot of that's-- 302 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:33,468 I'm looking at you. 303 00:09:33,469 --> 00:09:35,370 You're saying, you dealt with it when you were pregnant. 304 00:09:35,589 --> 00:09:37,728 That's literally why I was-- 305 00:09:37,729 --> 00:09:39,708 That's why she was upset in the first place-- 306 00:09:39,709 --> 00:09:40,709 is what she's saying. 307 00:09:40,929 --> 00:09:42,769 So does this-- so let me ask you this. 308 00:09:42,990 --> 00:09:45,909 Is being pregnant-- does-- does being 309 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:50,568 pregnant make you see what happened 310 00:09:50,569 --> 00:09:52,408 in your relationship with Lindsay 311 00:09:52,409 --> 00:09:54,009 while she was pregnant differently? 312 00:09:54,202 --> 00:09:55,366 The other way around. 313 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:57,654 I think that, yes, with more clar-- like, 314 00:09:57,849 --> 00:10:00,508 I would have liked us to have a conversation 315 00:10:00,509 --> 00:10:01,629 more in the moment. 316 00:10:01,870 --> 00:10:04,049 You know, I'm very apologetic for that. 317 00:10:04,209 --> 00:10:07,108 Sometimes it feels like you are not done punishing 318 00:10:07,109 --> 00:10:09,109 me for certain things. 319 00:10:09,250 --> 00:10:11,829 You know, I'm so tired of taking the heat, 320 00:10:11,949 --> 00:10:14,728 protecting Danielle to then get shit on year 321 00:10:14,729 --> 00:10:16,448 after year after year after year. 322 00:10:16,449 --> 00:10:17,448 Now I have a kid. 323 00:10:17,449 --> 00:10:18,408 I don't have time for this. 324 00:10:18,409 --> 00:10:19,669 I don't have time for the negative energy. 325 00:10:20,189 --> 00:10:22,349 I just-- just wash my hands clean of it. 326 00:10:22,549 --> 00:10:25,968 The next thing you know, you pop up and you're on the show. 327 00:10:25,969 --> 00:10:26,968 And that's fine. 328 00:10:26,969 --> 00:10:28,249 And I think you hated that. 329 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:29,250 I don't hate it. 330 00:10:31,229 --> 00:10:32,229 I just didn't think. 331 00:10:37,899 --> 00:10:39,239 Coming up. 332 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,219 How diabolical would it have been for me to invite 333 00:10:42,220 --> 00:10:45,018 two of my friends while I'm-- 334 00:10:45,019 --> 00:10:46,319 That's what we were all thinking when we saw that. 335 00:10:59,580 --> 00:11:02,960 I just don't know what you thought was going to happen, 336 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:04,600 popping up on a show. 337 00:11:05,060 --> 00:11:07,900 And then you thought you didn't have to talk about anything. 338 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:11,199 Like, that's-- literally, like, that's what's crazy to me. 339 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,320 I talk about things. 340 00:11:12,460 --> 00:11:15,399 That's why, at the wedding I was like, well, 341 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,359 I don't understand. 342 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,299 Like, what are you doing here if you 343 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:18,360 don't want to share anything? 344 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaking of the wedding, for the record, 345 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,619 was Danielle's dress at Yvonne and Nick's wedding 346 00:11:24,620 --> 00:11:26,160 reception pink or white? 347 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:27,359 White. 348 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,759 This is like that blue and gold, whatever it was. 349 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:30,699 Let's be honest. 350 00:11:30,700 --> 00:11:33,019 If you were invited to an all pink party-- 351 00:11:33,020 --> 00:11:33,826 She admitted it. 352 00:11:33,827 --> 00:11:34,499 they wouldn't have let you in. 353 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:35,500 She admit it. 354 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:37,680 - What? - She owned it. 355 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:38,868 Yeah. 356 00:11:38,869 --> 00:11:39,879 Did you think about that before you came? 357 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,128 She was in the middle. It wasn't pink. 358 00:11:41,129 --> 00:11:42,110 It wasn't white. 359 00:11:42,111 --> 00:11:43,110 It was-- it was-- light pink. 360 00:11:43,111 --> 00:11:43,835 The lighting didn't do it any favors. 361 00:11:43,836 --> 00:11:44,756 It was white. 362 00:11:44,757 --> 00:11:45,619 But yeah. 363 00:11:45,620 --> 00:11:47,440 Yvonne, I texted you. 364 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:49,359 I texted Whitney. I texted Katie. 365 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,379 I texted my mom. 366 00:11:50,380 --> 00:11:51,380 And I showed Eoin. 367 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,479 And like-- 368 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,539 So you texted all these people a picture of the dress. 369 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:56,419 And-- and in hindsight, I'm like, well, 370 00:11:56,420 --> 00:11:57,559 if you have to text that many people 371 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:58,839 about the color of a dress, you probably 372 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,759 shouldn't wear the dress. 373 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,040 I get a text, like, an hour before the event. 374 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,959 And I glanced at it. 375 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,560 And she said, hey, like, my dress is formal, but it's pink. 376 00:12:08,060 --> 00:12:09,659 So I looked at it. I said, great. 377 00:12:09,660 --> 00:12:10,579 You look great. 378 00:12:10,580 --> 00:12:11,580 See you there. 379 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:17,080 So all I saw was, you know, she's a CEO of a fashion-- 380 00:12:17,168 --> 00:12:18,471 A pink-- a pink dress in a photo. 381 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:19,560 You said it was pink. 382 00:12:20,220 --> 00:12:23,559 I sent you a photo of myself in a self-- it was a selfie. 383 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:24,459 I texted you about it. 384 00:12:24,460 --> 00:12:26,219 You sent me a pink dress. 385 00:12:26,220 --> 00:12:28,518 Yes, the one that I am wearing right now, 386 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:29,416 the literal, exact one. - That's not pink. 387 00:12:29,417 --> 00:12:30,417 It looks very white. You also-- 388 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,279 If you text a picture, it means that you're on the 389 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,179 fence, right? 390 00:12:34,180 --> 00:12:36,659 I didn't have enough fucking time to come 391 00:12:36,660 --> 00:12:37,659 up with something better. 392 00:12:37,660 --> 00:12:38,258 Cheers. 393 00:12:38,259 --> 00:12:41,119 First of all, you put me in an awkward position, right? 394 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,219 What I would have wrote to you is, hey, my dress looks white, 395 00:12:45,220 --> 00:12:46,159 but it's pink. 396 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,179 Can I wear it? 397 00:12:47,180 --> 00:12:49,679 In the future, I'll be sure to write it-- 398 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:51,239 Yeah, we'll really spell it out for you. 399 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,700 Yeah, I think if it-- it was like, 400 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,720 you knew it was borderline. 401 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,340 It-- it was questionable. 402 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,359 But the thing that I'm more upset about myself 403 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,720 is retaliating with the bitch, I think, multiple times. 404 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:06,579 I am so over everybody fighting 405 00:13:06,580 --> 00:13:09,199 at this dinner table, especially when people 406 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,060 show up in a white dress. 407 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:12,880 Are you talking about me, bitch? 408 00:13:14,004 --> 00:13:15,059 That's also really not a thing to say. 409 00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:16,779 I think that's why I was a little-- 410 00:13:16,780 --> 00:13:17,839 - That was terrible. - That was an odd word choice. 411 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,879 But also, I thought, like, in the moment, 412 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,640 I was being a little set up. 413 00:13:21,860 --> 00:13:22,859 Because I was like, I texted you-- 414 00:13:22,860 --> 00:13:23,775 You set yourself up. 415 00:13:23,776 --> 00:13:24,580 I was like, I texted this bitch. 416 00:13:24,581 --> 00:13:27,000 And-- and here she comes. 417 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,620 And so, like, I-- you know, I-- poor choice of words. 418 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,180 I-- at your wedding-- 419 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:33,579 sorry. 420 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:35,680 I will never wear light pink again or call you a bitch. 421 00:13:35,860 --> 00:13:37,360 Gabrielle from Switzerland said, 422 00:13:37,820 --> 00:13:39,759 Danielle, you've said before that Amanda was the person 423 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,960 you trusted the least. 424 00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:43,319 What was it that made you feel that way 425 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,979 when so many others seemed to trust her completely? 426 00:13:45,980 --> 00:13:50,160 And looking at the situation today, do you feel vindicated? 427 00:13:51,060 --> 00:13:52,140 You asked me this question already. 428 00:13:52,340 --> 00:13:53,340 And I said, yes. 429 00:13:54,740 --> 00:13:58,240 Because that comment came from a place of just not knowing 430 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,919 what I get from you, ever. 431 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,220 And I couldn't understand who you-- 432 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,079 you, as Amanda-- are. 433 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,120 Mm-hmm. 434 00:14:06,121 --> 00:14:07,161 To me, that is-- 435 00:14:07,162 --> 00:14:07,692 it's scary. 436 00:14:07,693 --> 00:14:12,779 I like-- I like more stable situations, 437 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:13,959 where I know what I'm getting. 438 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,299 So Amanda, what do you think of what Danielle just said. 439 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:18,359 I can understand it. 440 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,779 I don't think Danielle and I ever 441 00:14:19,780 --> 00:14:23,679 got to a place of friendship, where I was able to fully, 442 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:24,879 like, let her in. 443 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,240 I think it was surface level. 444 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,340 So for her to feel that she couldn't fully trust me, 445 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:30,840 I completely understand. 446 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,539 Danielle, what is your current relationship 447 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:37,439 with Amanda like, especially in light 448 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,620 of the recent news surrounding her West relationship? 449 00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:42,440 And what is your relationship with West? 450 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,299 I have no relationship with West, will never 451 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:47,800 have a relationship with West. 452 00:14:48,019 --> 00:14:50,339 I think what you did was an absolute mistake 453 00:14:50,340 --> 00:14:51,460 and horrendous. 454 00:14:51,580 --> 00:14:54,000 And you should not have done the things that you've done. 455 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,339 I-- I did appreciate when you texted me and 456 00:14:58,340 --> 00:15:02,459 Eoin about looking back on-- on our situation 457 00:15:02,460 --> 00:15:05,539 and what-- how-- how you kind of, you know, 458 00:15:05,540 --> 00:15:08,960 came at us and your perspective, newly gained. 459 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:11,599 I-- I will acknowledge that. 460 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,880 I don't-- I think that there's a very long road-- 461 00:15:14,049 --> 00:15:15,097 What did she text you? 462 00:15:15,098 --> 00:15:17,668 She texted, you know, a whole-- 463 00:15:17,838 --> 00:15:22,405 apologizing for the way that she acted and came at us 464 00:15:22,573 --> 00:15:23,690 with the homewrecker stuff. 465 00:15:23,860 --> 00:15:25,971 Even before the season came out-- 466 00:15:25,972 --> 00:15:26,480 Yes. 467 00:15:26,481 --> 00:15:27,739 I was doing a lot of reflecting. 468 00:15:27,740 --> 00:15:29,220 It was, like, three weeks ago. 469 00:15:29,323 --> 00:15:30,189 Yeah. Because-- 470 00:15:30,190 --> 00:15:31,148 And we both appreciated it. 471 00:15:31,149 --> 00:15:31,899 Yeah. 472 00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:34,719 I just think that there's a very-- you know, 473 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,499 we have more shit to sort out. 474 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:37,139 - 100%. - And-- 475 00:15:37,140 --> 00:15:39,459 And I would like to apologize to both of you 476 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:41,920 again after watching those scenes. 477 00:15:42,380 --> 00:15:43,800 I cringed. 478 00:15:44,060 --> 00:15:46,279 I actually had to, like, fast-forward a little bit 479 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,599 and, like, close my eyes because it was 480 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,060 really hard to watch myself. 481 00:15:49,660 --> 00:15:53,839 And I do deeply apologize, even watching it back again now, 482 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,299 the way that I handled those things 483 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:57,540 and having any sort of opinion on your relationship 484 00:15:58,020 --> 00:15:59,640 whatsoever. - Thank you. 485 00:15:59,860 --> 00:16:00,799 Forgive me. 486 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,739 But as I sit here, I'm reflecting back 487 00:16:04,740 --> 00:16:07,099 on sitting with you a few months ago 488 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:08,259 at the "Summer House" reunion. 489 00:16:08,260 --> 00:16:14,779 And your apology to Danielle was clear, sincere, taking 490 00:16:14,780 --> 00:16:17,880 ownership, very remorseful. 491 00:16:18,580 --> 00:16:21,799 And it was kind of, I think, a lot 492 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,240 of what would have gone a long way to Ciara on that day. 493 00:16:26,383 --> 00:16:27,385 Mm-hmm. 494 00:16:27,386 --> 00:16:29,766 How do you have that clarity with Danielle 495 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,759 when the betrayal was stronger and the friendship was 496 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:36,980 stronger there? 497 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,520 I was, I mean, terrified going into that day. 498 00:16:41,660 --> 00:16:45,020 I knew, like, the pain that I had caused. 499 00:16:46,779 --> 00:16:49,399 I felt-- and I'm not, like, making excuses. 500 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,199 I don't know how to say this without it sounding bad. 501 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,459 But like, I couldn't get a word in. 502 00:16:52,460 --> 00:16:56,860 And it felt like, every time I wanted to try to say something, 503 00:16:57,060 --> 00:16:58,400 I would get-- 504 00:16:58,700 --> 00:16:59,379 Annoyed. 505 00:16:59,380 --> 00:17:02,199 cut off or interrupted or whatever it was. 506 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,159 And it got to the point where I was frustrated. 507 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,299 And I couldn't speak with calmness 508 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:09,339 or sincerity or apologetic because I 509 00:17:09,340 --> 00:17:10,840 got defensive instead. 510 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,199 Especially going in, that first thing I said 511 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,360 was that I was sorry to Kyle and Ciara and it was-- 512 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,339 I knew what the temperature was going to be from there on out, 513 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:21,019 and it kind of-- 514 00:17:21,020 --> 00:17:21,879 I shut down. 515 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,900 I'm prepared to take accountability, apologize 516 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:26,780 especially to Ciara and Kyle. 517 00:17:27,098 --> 00:17:28,539 I'm glad she could say her name, right? 518 00:17:31,128 --> 00:17:32,189 What? 519 00:17:32,190 --> 00:17:33,569 I'm glad you could say her name this time. 520 00:17:34,970 --> 00:17:38,630 Did you ever consider reaching out to her privately? 521 00:17:38,869 --> 00:17:39,689 I did. 522 00:17:39,690 --> 00:17:41,890 I actually had written a text at one point, 523 00:17:42,050 --> 00:17:44,650 but I learned that I was blocked 524 00:17:44,750 --> 00:17:46,269 and there was no point in sending it. 525 00:17:50,599 --> 00:17:53,639 Coming up, regarding the information that you found out 526 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,040 that Kyle had had sex with someone while you were married, 527 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,440 when did you find that out? 528 00:17:58,580 --> 00:17:59,580 Recently. 529 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:11,410 OK, we are back. 530 00:18:11,929 --> 00:18:14,929 Eoin, were you purposefully being vague about your divorce 531 00:18:14,930 --> 00:18:15,868 at boys night? 532 00:18:15,869 --> 00:18:16,869 Yeah. 533 00:18:18,030 --> 00:18:19,369 - You like that. - Finally. 534 00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:20,370 I like that answer. 535 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:21,470 A clear answer. 536 00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:25,048 I would have respected that answer so many months ago. 537 00:18:25,049 --> 00:18:26,597 So, by the way, a legal matter. 538 00:18:26,598 --> 00:18:27,238 Yes. 539 00:18:27,239 --> 00:18:29,489 So then why not just say-- and 540 00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:31,470 so, why were you being vague? 541 00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:34,390 I think I was coming into a group that I don't know. 542 00:18:34,570 --> 00:18:36,170 I obviously had my hesitations, given 543 00:18:36,570 --> 00:18:39,069 the amount of drama craving that goes on in this group. 544 00:18:39,070 --> 00:18:42,890 But, I think I had an issue that I was dealing with, 545 00:18:43,530 --> 00:18:45,369 and I didn't think it normal to talk 546 00:18:45,370 --> 00:18:48,490 to people that I don't even know about a personal issue. 547 00:18:48,829 --> 00:18:52,750 And were you extra concerned because there were cameras? 548 00:18:54,170 --> 00:18:56,268 Ah, no, but I think looking back on it, 549 00:18:56,269 --> 00:18:58,528 I think it was interesting to see 550 00:18:58,529 --> 00:19:01,449 how people really turned on their questions 551 00:19:01,450 --> 00:19:02,450 when the camera came on. 552 00:19:03,910 --> 00:19:05,050 Actually, I don't think anybody-- 553 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:07,789 and I'll leave Andrea and Nick out of this because they've 554 00:19:07,790 --> 00:19:08,790 never brought it up. 555 00:19:09,049 --> 00:19:10,069 They don't think it's appropriate. 556 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:13,129 But no one has, either when cameras went down or even 557 00:19:13,130 --> 00:19:15,009 after we finished filming, has ever asked me 558 00:19:15,010 --> 00:19:17,469 anything about my divorce or my previous marriage. 559 00:19:17,609 --> 00:19:19,650 You made it clear that you don't want to be asked. 560 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:21,269 Yeah, exactly. 561 00:19:21,729 --> 00:19:22,729 But when the cameras came on-- 562 00:19:22,820 --> 00:19:24,290 You can't use that as a weapon-- 563 00:19:24,468 --> 00:19:25,860 When the cameras came on-- 564 00:19:26,084 --> 00:19:28,285 You don't ask off camera, you understand? 565 00:19:28,509 --> 00:19:29,509 OK, so it's for the cameras. 566 00:19:29,690 --> 00:19:30,769 We were terrified to ask. 567 00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:31,889 So it's for the cameras. 568 00:19:31,890 --> 00:19:33,969 It was for Danielle because I-- 569 00:19:33,970 --> 00:19:35,369 How is it for Danielle? 570 00:19:35,569 --> 00:19:37,302 I was only watching it-- 571 00:19:37,505 --> 00:19:39,439 It was for Danielle, and it was for us. 572 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,242 How do you not-- 573 00:19:40,243 --> 00:19:41,250 Friends? 574 00:19:41,251 --> 00:19:42,669 People are nosy. 575 00:19:42,670 --> 00:19:43,209 Absolutely. 576 00:19:43,210 --> 00:19:44,210 Especially with friends. 577 00:19:44,345 --> 00:19:46,148 So, people want to know what's going on. 578 00:19:46,406 --> 00:19:48,620 Daniel, there was actual-- there was actual concern. 579 00:19:48,878 --> 00:19:50,010 It was gossipy for sure. 580 00:19:50,269 --> 00:19:51,348 It was gossipy. - It was. 581 00:19:51,349 --> 00:19:52,349 It was gossipy. 582 00:19:52,463 --> 00:19:54,242 They were all walking in, complaining 583 00:19:54,393 --> 00:19:57,408 about how Eoin didn't open up the night before at boys night. 584 00:19:57,529 --> 00:19:59,970 Boys, the boys. - Men. 585 00:20:00,115 --> 00:20:01,114 One more time. 586 00:20:01,115 --> 00:20:01,990 No, I'll call you a man when you act like one. 587 00:20:01,991 --> 00:20:02,831 OK. 588 00:20:02,832 --> 00:20:07,369 So Kenny, Gavin, and Kyle are sitting there gossiping 589 00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:08,839 about, oh, and I said, well, let's just like, 590 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,430 try to figure out the facts. 591 00:20:11,390 --> 00:20:13,349 Like, that's why I opened up Google, 592 00:20:13,950 --> 00:20:15,690 because they were gossiping. 593 00:20:15,899 --> 00:20:18,740 But that was some crazy shit. 594 00:20:18,741 --> 00:20:19,649 Like you don't do that. 595 00:20:19,650 --> 00:20:20,949 But when it came to-- 596 00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:21,950 We were egging her on. 597 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:24,479 At that wedding, none of these boys stood up and 598 00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:25,778 said, actually-- 599 00:20:25,949 --> 00:20:27,008 You were on the Mini Express. 600 00:20:27,009 --> 00:20:28,269 Were they running their mouths? 601 00:20:28,406 --> 00:20:29,405 That's why it was, like, none of these boys-- 602 00:20:29,406 --> 00:20:30,462 - It was tea-- - No, she did say-- 603 00:20:30,463 --> 00:20:31,561 It was tea and gossip. 604 00:20:31,732 --> 00:20:32,933 It wasn't like-- 605 00:20:33,105 --> 00:20:34,105 stood up and said, it was us, that were, like-- 606 00:20:34,270 --> 00:20:35,270 So you don't know if Danielle-- 607 00:20:35,369 --> 00:20:37,308 - And also-- - They let me to dry. 608 00:20:37,309 --> 00:20:38,149 I had a side conversation. 609 00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:40,029 They let me hang to dry like a fucking prosciutto. 610 00:20:40,590 --> 00:20:44,429 And so do you have plans to marry after your divorce 611 00:20:44,430 --> 00:20:45,249 is final? 612 00:20:45,250 --> 00:20:46,250 Yeah, we would like to. 613 00:20:46,415 --> 00:20:47,474 Yeah. 614 00:20:47,607 --> 00:20:48,963 Can't be married twice at the same time. 615 00:20:49,130 --> 00:20:50,549 Danielle, Tiffany from Virginia 616 00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:52,888 said, after watching this back this season 617 00:20:52,889 --> 00:20:54,489 and seeing Lindsay's side of things 618 00:20:54,490 --> 00:20:56,170 when it comes to your friendship over the years, 619 00:20:56,610 --> 00:20:58,229 do you see a path forward in which 620 00:20:58,230 --> 00:21:00,429 you two would be able to get back to a place 621 00:21:00,430 --> 00:21:01,510 of genuine friendship? 622 00:21:01,730 --> 00:21:03,849 I just don't want any more lists of grievances. 623 00:21:04,090 --> 00:21:07,729 Like, you want a one-on-one, like get every single detail 624 00:21:07,730 --> 00:21:09,970 out and then properly move forward, 625 00:21:10,190 --> 00:21:12,469 I'm so, so down for that. 626 00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:15,028 I just like-- you know what? 627 00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:16,650 I want new mistakes to be made. 628 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,269 I don't want to keep walking on-- 629 00:21:18,509 --> 00:21:20,549 To be honest, I listed my grievances. 630 00:21:20,910 --> 00:21:21,909 They're out the door. 631 00:21:21,910 --> 00:21:23,329 Like we talked about them. 632 00:21:23,330 --> 00:21:25,049 We went to brunch. - You feel clean. 633 00:21:25,050 --> 00:21:25,528 Yeah. 634 00:21:25,529 --> 00:21:26,528 You feel clean. 635 00:21:26,529 --> 00:21:29,369 Yeah, just also, no more Googling about 636 00:21:29,644 --> 00:21:31,909 fucking hairdressers. 637 00:21:31,910 --> 00:21:34,469 I can't promise that I will Google anyone 638 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:35,990 that my friends are dating. 639 00:21:36,189 --> 00:21:36,949 Don't Google me. 640 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:37,678 And they Google mine. 641 00:21:37,679 --> 00:21:38,689 OK. 642 00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:39,690 I do. 643 00:21:40,490 --> 00:21:41,610 Well, I have good news. 644 00:21:41,789 --> 00:21:43,710 Oh, we get to talk about you and Amanda now. 645 00:21:46,389 --> 00:21:48,449 Kyle and Amanda's rough summer led 646 00:21:48,450 --> 00:21:50,949 to plenty of autumnal awkwardness 647 00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:53,030 back in the city, where the tension 648 00:21:53,469 --> 00:21:56,650 ballooned faster than the timeline of Amanda's new lease. 649 00:21:57,170 --> 00:22:00,789 And what was once floated as a temporary separation 650 00:22:01,349 --> 00:22:06,190 rapidly evolved into Kymanda's permanent new reality. 651 00:22:06,829 --> 00:22:07,909 Take a look. 652 00:22:07,910 --> 00:22:09,369 I'm going to move out. 653 00:22:10,130 --> 00:22:11,789 And this isn't, like, a permanent-- this 654 00:22:11,790 --> 00:22:12,729 is, like, a month. 655 00:22:12,730 --> 00:22:14,450 So I finally found a place. 656 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:16,970 It is a year-long lease. 657 00:22:17,509 --> 00:22:19,909 I'm doing this for the sake of our relationship, 658 00:22:19,910 --> 00:22:22,029 to try to get things to a better place. 659 00:22:22,130 --> 00:22:23,629 And you're just going out fucking around, 660 00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:24,768 doing whatever the fuck you want. 661 00:22:24,769 --> 00:22:26,930 It would be silly to say that we're in love. 662 00:22:27,250 --> 00:22:28,309 Am I in love right now? 663 00:22:28,589 --> 00:22:29,589 Like, no. 664 00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:34,349 Kyle, was there some part of you that was grateful 665 00:22:34,350 --> 00:22:36,890 that Amanda chose to move out? 666 00:22:37,770 --> 00:22:41,589 I think that there was a sense of like, 667 00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:44,048 responsibility and-- 668 00:22:44,049 --> 00:22:45,049 Relief? 669 00:22:45,670 --> 00:22:47,930 No, I just-- even though I knew our relationship was not, 670 00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:53,949 potentially not repairable, there was something about me 671 00:22:53,950 --> 00:22:56,050 wanting to still take care of her and provide, 672 00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:59,810 and I don't know if it's like male pride. 673 00:22:59,910 --> 00:23:02,467 But like, I was just not going to be the one that instigates 674 00:23:02,468 --> 00:23:05,991 or initiates a separation. 675 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:07,970 I'm just curious for the group, 676 00:23:08,830 --> 00:23:12,049 did you all know that Kyle was caught making out with someone 677 00:23:12,050 --> 00:23:13,850 after he and Amanda got married? 678 00:23:14,410 --> 00:23:16,410 And by the way, this whole caught making out thing-- 679 00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:19,548 I didn't know about the-- 680 00:23:19,549 --> 00:23:20,380 Wholly unaware. 681 00:23:20,381 --> 00:23:21,594 Yeah, I didn't tell anyone about it. 682 00:23:21,690 --> 00:23:22,829 Yeah, I think she kept that one. 683 00:23:22,830 --> 00:23:26,308 I think we protected various aspects of our marriage, 684 00:23:26,309 --> 00:23:27,309 I will say that. 685 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:31,029 I'm not proud of any type of indiscretions. 686 00:23:32,370 --> 00:23:36,190 I don't have a recollection of-- 687 00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:38,609 personally, I think I was like, very close 688 00:23:38,610 --> 00:23:39,610 to someone on a dance floor. 689 00:23:40,530 --> 00:23:41,409 And-- 690 00:23:41,410 --> 00:23:42,450 Your lips touched? 691 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:43,961 While he was-- 692 00:23:44,141 --> 00:23:47,702 at the end of the day, he was out at a club 693 00:23:47,882 --> 00:23:51,983 by himself, solo, dancing close enough to someone 694 00:23:52,163 --> 00:23:53,422 while married that they could have 695 00:23:53,602 --> 00:23:55,148 mistaken it for making out. 696 00:23:55,149 --> 00:23:55,913 And there's a video. 697 00:23:55,914 --> 00:23:56,327 So like-- 698 00:23:56,328 --> 00:23:57,810 And I'm not proud of it. 699 00:23:58,250 --> 00:24:01,789 Were the aspects that you protected like that you 700 00:24:01,790 --> 00:24:03,390 hadn't had sex in years? 701 00:24:03,549 --> 00:24:06,209 We went into a funk immediately after our wedding. 702 00:24:06,210 --> 00:24:07,210 Wow. 703 00:24:07,342 --> 00:24:08,726 I recently certainly heard that-- 704 00:24:08,884 --> 00:24:10,112 It took years to get us into counseling. 705 00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:13,509 I heard that he had sex with someone that was confirmed 706 00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:14,549 while we were married. 707 00:24:14,550 --> 00:24:15,550 That is not true. 708 00:24:15,716 --> 00:24:16,918 from that person's friend. 709 00:24:17,090 --> 00:24:20,990 That person told their friend that like it was 100% 710 00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:22,370 true while we were married. 711 00:24:22,464 --> 00:24:23,476 What? 712 00:24:23,570 --> 00:24:26,209 Who is she? I'll kill her. 713 00:24:26,210 --> 00:24:27,209 I don't know. 714 00:24:27,210 --> 00:24:28,610 When did you find that out? 715 00:24:28,890 --> 00:24:29,890 Recently. 716 00:24:46,550 --> 00:24:50,269 I heard that he had sex with someone that was confirmed 717 00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:51,289 while we were married-- 718 00:24:51,290 --> 00:24:52,355 That is not true. 719 00:24:52,356 --> 00:24:53,487 From that person's friend. 720 00:24:53,649 --> 00:24:57,630 That person told their friend that like it was 100% 721 00:24:57,930 --> 00:24:59,010 true while we were married. 722 00:24:59,117 --> 00:25:00,117 OK. 723 00:25:00,265 --> 00:25:02,349 - What? - Who is she? 724 00:25:02,350 --> 00:25:02,769 I'll kill her. 725 00:25:02,770 --> 00:25:03,770 I don't know. 726 00:25:04,030 --> 00:25:06,129 Regarding the information that you found out 727 00:25:06,130 --> 00:25:09,610 that Kyle had had sex with someone while you were married, 728 00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:10,970 when did you find that out? 729 00:25:11,109 --> 00:25:12,109 Recently. 730 00:25:12,369 --> 00:25:13,628 After you split up? 731 00:25:13,629 --> 00:25:15,388 Oh, yeah, like, in the past few weeks. 732 00:25:15,389 --> 00:25:18,568 Is there other stuff that you've found out on that? 733 00:25:18,569 --> 00:25:20,669 I haven't been on the internet in a minute. 734 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:25,330 But I mean, throughout our relationship, like, yeah, 735 00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:27,549 and a lot of the times he didn't have an answer 736 00:25:27,550 --> 00:25:28,550 and he didn't know. 737 00:25:28,810 --> 00:25:30,709 And so like, I don't know what's true 738 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:33,029 and what's not because he didn't remember. 739 00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:34,030 And-- 740 00:25:34,210 --> 00:25:35,989 It's not like I'm out like-- 741 00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:39,069 Either way, he's being inappropriate enough where 742 00:25:39,070 --> 00:25:41,229 people are getting the idea. 743 00:25:41,230 --> 00:25:41,908 But like, even-- 744 00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:44,730 I'll give you an idea, we were together-- 745 00:25:44,827 --> 00:25:45,952 You tell me I brought people back to our apartment. 746 00:25:46,074 --> 00:25:47,272 It was, like, a gay guy in his, like, best friend. 747 00:25:47,394 --> 00:25:48,666 You had a three way with a gay guy and his best friend? 748 00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:50,369 And it was a woman. 749 00:25:50,576 --> 00:25:51,989 It was a woman. 750 00:25:52,196 --> 00:25:53,196 Andy's ears perks up. 751 00:25:53,401 --> 00:25:54,938 It was a woman. 752 00:25:55,145 --> 00:25:56,145 It was a woman. 753 00:25:56,349 --> 00:25:57,637 It was very innocent. 754 00:25:57,846 --> 00:25:59,564 And it was the night that I was moving out, 755 00:25:59,565 --> 00:26:01,789 to the point where our neighbors are buzzing 756 00:26:01,790 --> 00:26:04,530 our doorbell because the bass is so loud, 757 00:26:04,629 --> 00:26:06,848 it's vibrating our neighbors apartments. 758 00:26:06,849 --> 00:26:07,669 I was at our office. 759 00:26:07,670 --> 00:26:08,670 It was inappropriate. 760 00:26:09,609 --> 00:26:12,288 It was weird that you brought strangers back, 761 00:26:12,289 --> 00:26:14,969 but it was the night that I was moving out 762 00:26:14,970 --> 00:26:17,250 and you were hanging out with random people. 763 00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:18,590 Yeah, I didn't want to be home. 764 00:26:18,730 --> 00:26:19,775 - In the office. - I didn't want to be home. 765 00:26:19,776 --> 00:26:20,709 It was weird. 766 00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:21,710 OK, I'm being honest. 767 00:26:21,970 --> 00:26:22,969 And that's fine, but-- 768 00:26:22,970 --> 00:26:25,428 I did not want to be around the chaos that was-- 769 00:26:25,429 --> 00:26:28,730 When I was moving out, I was hopeful. 770 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:32,210 The fact that that's the note that I left on, 771 00:26:33,210 --> 00:26:35,408 changed my feelings about moving out 772 00:26:35,409 --> 00:26:37,235 and, like, what that step meant. 773 00:26:37,236 --> 00:26:38,169 OK. 774 00:26:38,170 --> 00:26:39,388 Because that's how we left it. 775 00:26:39,389 --> 00:26:40,369 Can I ask you guys a question? 776 00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:42,270 And you don't have to go into detail. 777 00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:43,789 You don't. 778 00:26:43,790 --> 00:26:46,149 But why didn't you have sex for four years? 779 00:26:46,810 --> 00:26:48,050 I was depressed. 780 00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:51,089 Depression will do that. 781 00:26:51,250 --> 00:26:52,250 That was part of it. 782 00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:54,709 I think-- and this is a conversation we 783 00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:58,990 had in therapy, also, before our wedding, 784 00:27:00,550 --> 00:27:02,849 that I didn't feel-- 785 00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:04,449 like Kyle wasn't courting me. 786 00:27:04,450 --> 00:27:06,289 This is how I felt. I wasn't getting courted. 787 00:27:06,290 --> 00:27:07,290 There were no dates. 788 00:27:07,589 --> 00:27:10,589 He would work all day, work all night, then come to bed, 789 00:27:11,049 --> 00:27:13,449 tell me to answer an email, and then try to have sex with me. 790 00:27:13,450 --> 00:27:14,730 And it felt like there was no foreplay. 791 00:27:14,889 --> 00:27:16,190 There was no emotional intimacy. 792 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:17,609 There was no conversation. 793 00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:20,269 There was, again, nothing else happening in the relationship. 794 00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:23,148 And I felt-- I felt, this is not his intention 795 00:27:23,149 --> 00:27:24,008 or what he was doing. 796 00:27:24,009 --> 00:27:26,469 I felt like I was just an object at that point. 797 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:27,329 Like a vessel. 798 00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:27,788 Yes. 799 00:27:27,789 --> 00:27:29,210 And then the depression hit also, 800 00:27:29,429 --> 00:27:32,289 and then it was just a unfortunate storm. 801 00:27:32,609 --> 00:27:33,908 But like, I didn't feel like he-- 802 00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:35,589 and then, he would still go out. 803 00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:36,709 He would still do these things. 804 00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:37,710 We'd get into big fights. 805 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:38,830 I'd get more rumors. 806 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:41,428 Can you imagine-- like, this is not like a guy-girl thing, 807 00:27:41,429 --> 00:27:44,010 but like, we get married and there's just, like-- 808 00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:45,389 we never have sex. 809 00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:49,009 We didn't have sex until we-- technically, it 810 00:27:49,010 --> 00:27:50,389 wasn't four years of nothing. 811 00:27:50,929 --> 00:27:52,789 We had sex, like, three times. 812 00:27:54,290 --> 00:27:55,290 So. 813 00:27:55,409 --> 00:27:56,689 But I'm just saying, like-- 814 00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:58,428 I expressed to him what I would tell him. 815 00:27:58,429 --> 00:27:59,690 I want to be taken out on a date. 816 00:27:59,825 --> 00:28:00,825 But first, it's like, I'm a workaholic. 817 00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:01,928 Now I'm an alcoholic. 818 00:28:01,929 --> 00:28:03,908 I just could never do anything. 819 00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:05,530 Meanwhile, I'm providing, I'm doing everything. 820 00:28:05,639 --> 00:28:06,603 - The goal post was moving. - Everything in our life-- 821 00:28:06,604 --> 00:28:07,366 It wasn't. I left. 822 00:28:07,367 --> 00:28:08,367 was on my shoulders. 823 00:28:08,459 --> 00:28:09,459 I made it very clear, it was the drinking. 824 00:28:09,993 --> 00:28:10,993 Can you accept your part in it though? 825 00:28:11,089 --> 00:28:12,344 - It was the going out late. - Of course. 826 00:28:12,345 --> 00:28:13,345 I've-- listen. 827 00:28:13,929 --> 00:28:15,568 And the fact that you wouldn't talk all day. 828 00:28:15,569 --> 00:28:19,609 One of my issues, like, every single thing we ever did, 829 00:28:20,029 --> 00:28:21,989 was only because I arranged it. 830 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:24,849 So like, every date we ever went on, trip, getaway-- 831 00:28:25,509 --> 00:28:29,528 I'm putting in the hours now, or then-- 832 00:28:29,529 --> 00:28:30,529 Exactly. 833 00:28:30,627 --> 00:28:31,626 so we can provide for-- 834 00:28:31,627 --> 00:28:32,631 So I was being put on the back burner-- 835 00:28:32,632 --> 00:28:33,732 And now I'm being crucified 836 00:28:33,893 --> 00:28:34,928 and your priority-- you're not being crucified, 837 00:28:34,929 --> 00:28:38,069 but it did take a toll on our romantic 838 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:39,229 and intimate relationship. 839 00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:41,108 As it probably does in every entrepreneurial-- 840 00:28:41,109 --> 00:28:42,769 Your priority was work and your solution 841 00:28:42,770 --> 00:28:45,289 was for me to read a book on how to date an entrepreneur. 842 00:28:45,290 --> 00:28:46,290 Yeah, it's a great book. 843 00:28:46,396 --> 00:28:47,709 And I wanted you to take me on a date. 844 00:28:47,854 --> 00:28:49,283 Oh, Kyle. 845 00:28:49,429 --> 00:28:52,489 So, like, you're literally saying exactly what I'm saying, 846 00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:54,790 is that you worked really hard for our future, 847 00:28:54,970 --> 00:28:57,428 but it did have an effect on our marriage and 848 00:28:57,429 --> 00:28:58,169 our relationship. 849 00:28:58,170 --> 00:28:59,059 Kyle, do you think you're going 850 00:28:59,060 --> 00:29:01,090 to have a problem with infidelity in the future, 851 00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:02,650 like when you have another relationship? 852 00:29:03,289 --> 00:29:04,288 No. 853 00:29:04,289 --> 00:29:05,289 I think that-- 854 00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:09,549 I can better appreciate the role 855 00:29:09,550 --> 00:29:12,690 trust plays because, clearly, I never got it back. 856 00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:14,189 I thought showing my-- 857 00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:15,448 Because you kept breaking my trust. 858 00:29:15,449 --> 00:29:16,408 Amanda. I-- 859 00:29:16,409 --> 00:29:18,109 There was a New Year's Eve where 860 00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:19,630 we went out a few years ago. 861 00:29:20,309 --> 00:29:22,549 Your family was-- like, cousins were there too, 862 00:29:22,889 --> 00:29:25,108 and we went to a bar after because you really wanted to go 863 00:29:25,109 --> 00:29:26,009 and you were so drunk. 864 00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:27,928 And as we're leaving, you blow raspberries 865 00:29:27,929 --> 00:29:29,009 on some girl's neck. 866 00:29:29,389 --> 00:29:30,509 Your mouth was on her neck. 867 00:29:30,510 --> 00:29:31,628 And I said, who is that girl? 868 00:29:31,629 --> 00:29:32,789 You said, I don't know. 869 00:29:33,109 --> 00:29:35,608 And then I pulled you out, and I'm there with you. 870 00:29:35,609 --> 00:29:37,969 So I can only imagine the things that you are doing-- 871 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:38,947 But do you see how, like, I'm-- 872 00:29:38,948 --> 00:29:39,694 - when I'm not there. - That is just me. 873 00:29:39,695 --> 00:29:40,829 I'm in-- - But you're married. 874 00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:41,808 That's not innocent. 875 00:29:41,809 --> 00:29:43,329 Putting your mouth on a stranger's neck. 876 00:29:43,330 --> 00:29:44,428 You're right next to me, I'm not 877 00:29:44,429 --> 00:29:46,258 trying to do anything shady. - Oh, my god. 878 00:29:46,259 --> 00:29:46,832 But Kyle, come on. 879 00:29:46,833 --> 00:29:48,485 That is shady. 880 00:29:48,730 --> 00:29:50,908 OK, well, what's happening when she's not there? 881 00:29:50,909 --> 00:29:51,909 Exactly. 882 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:53,309 So like, that made me spiral after seeing-- 883 00:29:53,451 --> 00:29:54,496 That's like, who I am though. 884 00:29:54,609 --> 00:29:57,628 Like, literally, your mouth was on a stranger's neck, 885 00:29:57,629 --> 00:29:58,629 and she was hot, too. 886 00:29:58,780 --> 00:30:00,481 First of all, I call it a blubber kiss. 887 00:30:00,670 --> 00:30:02,029 Kyle, don't die on that hill. 888 00:30:02,126 --> 00:30:03,206 Blubber kisses are not the vibe. 889 00:30:03,329 --> 00:30:04,549 We were-- like-- 890 00:30:06,269 --> 00:30:07,269 That's not OK. 891 00:30:07,425 --> 00:30:08,550 Like, it's not OK. 892 00:30:11,737 --> 00:30:12,609 Coming up-- 893 00:30:12,610 --> 00:30:16,070 Can I ask you a question that's going to piss you off? 894 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,940 Welcome back to part two of "In The City" reunion. 895 00:30:30,340 --> 00:30:31,340 I'm Andy Cohen. 896 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,339 The scene where Amanda had lunch with West and Sierra 897 00:30:35,340 --> 00:30:38,740 landed differently knowing what we know now. 898 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,700 This makes me so happy right now. 899 00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:42,639 You guys got to eventually just, 900 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,683 like, chill out, all right? 901 00:30:43,684 --> 00:30:44,684 Why? 902 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,860 This is my dream. 903 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,639 Mine, too. 904 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,499 Yeah. 905 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,660 West has been fighting for this his whole life. 906 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,599 For the group, when you saw that, 907 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,999 did you come away from that scene thinking 908 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,719 that Amanda did not have feelings for West 909 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,720 in that moment? 910 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,220 I think that they had a very weird friendship. 911 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,580 It seemed like West definitely had his eyes set 912 00:31:06,780 --> 00:31:09,340 and you were so checked out-- 913 00:31:09,516 --> 00:31:10,793 You were giddy in that deal. 914 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:12,458 - You were receiving it like-- - I had-- 915 00:31:12,636 --> 00:31:13,841 You were-- you were giddy and excited. 916 00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:16,039 Holding their hands because I had 917 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,259 Sierra and West together because they 918 00:31:18,260 --> 00:31:19,440 had just become friends. 919 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,659 How diabolical would it have been for me to invite 920 00:31:22,660 --> 00:31:25,099 two of my friends, while-- 921 00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,724 That's what we were all thinking when we saw that. 922 00:31:26,725 --> 00:31:27,379 But I'm not-- 923 00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:28,380 Diabolical. 924 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:35,039 So did you know then that he and Sierra were hooking 925 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,639 up a little bit at that time? - No. 926 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,479 No. 927 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,599 Gavin, the fighting between Kyle and Amanda 928 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,379 reached an all-time high during Yvonne 929 00:31:42,380 --> 00:31:43,900 and Nick's wedding dinner. 930 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,219 Do you feel guilty at all for stirring the pot? 931 00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:46,919 No. 932 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,920 What? 933 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,159 No, I don't. 934 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,319 I want the best for them. 935 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,179 Stirred the pot more than the chef stirred. 936 00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:52,940 They aren't doing couples therapy. 937 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,560 They stopped that. 938 00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:56,660 Now back to Kyle and Amanda-- go. 939 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,340 Amanda, are you still in love? 940 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,500 Kyle, are you still in love? 941 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,460 And they're not talking at home because of XYZ, whatever. 942 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,980 So I was like, Yvonne's wedding, we're here, 943 00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:06,140 maybe this is a good opportunity. 944 00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:08,219 Kyle, what was your reaction to Danielle 945 00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:11,139 saying that you found a loophole to continue partying 946 00:32:11,140 --> 00:32:12,780 with this new DJ contract? 947 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,919 I mean, it hurts. 948 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,499 It's like, whittling and diminishing 949 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,299 it down to something that it just isn't. 950 00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:18,939 Like, you've known me for how long? 951 00:32:18,940 --> 00:32:20,659 Like, music has always been a big part of my life. 952 00:32:20,660 --> 00:32:22,900 I mean, to some extent, like, do I-- 953 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440 was it nice to get out of the house? 954 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,819 Yeah. 955 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:28,320 We were not happy. 956 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,899 And I was extremely lonely and that's 957 00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,539 part of the reason why every time I go out, people, like-- 958 00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:37,340 I'm excited to be around people because we had nothing 959 00:32:37,629 --> 00:32:38,629 really going on at home. 960 00:32:38,798 --> 00:32:40,846 In that moment, though I also said, OK, well, 961 00:32:40,985 --> 00:32:42,396 if you guys are trying to fix things in your relationship 962 00:32:42,535 --> 00:32:44,001 and drinking and partying is an issue, 963 00:32:44,140 --> 00:32:47,179 why don't you DJ without alcohol? 964 00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:48,009 And to be fair-- 965 00:32:48,010 --> 00:32:48,719 And you didn't want to do that. 966 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,759 I've had the same feeling. 967 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,779 I just DJ'ed all January, the very month that we were talking 968 00:32:52,780 --> 00:32:53,584 about it because guess what? 969 00:32:53,585 --> 00:32:54,669 I did dry January. 970 00:32:54,824 --> 00:32:55,824 DJ'ed eight gigs sober. 971 00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:57,644 down, you were like no, like, why would I? 972 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,440 Because that's not what it was about. 973 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,440 That's not why I was DJ-ing. 974 00:33:01,626 --> 00:33:02,671 - To me-- - And guess what? 975 00:33:02,857 --> 00:33:03,939 I did dry January. 976 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:05,022 it felt like-- 977 00:33:05,209 --> 00:33:06,291 One month. 978 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,200 But I still do feel like I get messages-- 979 00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:11,939 because I still, to this day, get messages 980 00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:13,799 from people being like, I saw Kyle out 981 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,939 and he was x, y, and z and this drunk 982 00:33:15,940 --> 00:33:17,549 and it wasn't even an event where you drink that much and 983 00:33:17,550 --> 00:33:20,359 this-- and like, and you can't blame it 984 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,040 on me anymore at this point. 985 00:33:22,175 --> 00:33:23,239 I'm not. W-- 986 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,719 It used to be like I was the reason that like, 987 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,919 you needed to go out and socialize, 988 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,354 and now, you're able to socialize 989 00:33:28,355 --> 00:33:33,320 and it's just we don't have to talk about it, but-- 990 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:35,920 just be mindful. 991 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,400 Seems like a problem. 992 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,360 I can tell you it's not. 993 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:43,299 Can I ask you a question that's going to piss you off? 994 00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:44,300 What? 995 00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:49,720 When-- just going back to "Summer House" 996 00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:51,880 and there was the moment in the bathroom where like-- 997 00:33:52,097 --> 00:33:53,570 Bad word. 998 00:33:53,743 --> 00:33:56,127 said, "fuck you" and "you're a piece of shit," 999 00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:58,600 and "you're a fucking idiot." 1000 00:33:59,140 --> 00:34:00,600 Fucking dumb ass bitch. 1001 00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:03,580 Yes, I'm a dumb ass bitch, Kyle. 1002 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,799 How often in your marriage did 1003 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,519 things escalate to the point where 1004 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,900 you would fight like that? 1005 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:11,078 All the time. 1006 00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:15,739 I-- I actually think that we are equally at fault. 1007 00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:18,860 Like, most of the time, I felt like you initiated the fight. 1008 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,699 Like, I can-- sometimes I'm like-- 1009 00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:23,959 But was it worse behind closed doors, 1010 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,017 if that's what we were seeing? 1011 00:34:25,018 --> 00:34:27,340 No, I mean, like, of course, we'd have yelling matches. 1012 00:34:27,820 --> 00:34:29,518 But again, yelling match. 1013 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,900 I'm not just, like, name calling out of thin air. 1014 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,320 - Yeah, you were. - Well-- 1015 00:34:36,556 --> 00:34:37,596 OK. 1016 00:34:37,597 --> 00:34:39,599 it seemed like it that night because you said 1017 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,840 she gave you "fuck you" eyes. 1018 00:34:41,015 --> 00:34:42,067 She did. 1019 00:34:42,068 --> 00:34:43,964 I know, but "fuck you" eyes? 1020 00:34:44,139 --> 00:34:46,619 Maybe they were "fuck me" eye, not "fuck you" eyes. 1021 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,619 You would-- you had gathered up everybody 1022 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:51,240 inside except me and brought-- 1023 00:34:51,411 --> 00:34:53,660 You're giving the "fuck me" eyes to West and the "fuck you" 1024 00:34:53,831 --> 00:34:54,888 eyes to Kyle. - Yeah. 1025 00:34:55,059 --> 00:34:56,058 OK, Lindsay. 1026 00:34:56,059 --> 00:34:56,859 Wow. 1027 00:34:56,860 --> 00:34:57,920 Jesus, Lord. 1028 00:34:57,921 --> 00:34:58,979 Touché. 1029 00:34:58,980 --> 00:35:00,899 And we didn't really talk about this 1030 00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,360 at the "Summer House" reunion because there was so much else. 1031 00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:05,820 But it was alarming to me. 1032 00:35:06,820 --> 00:35:08,919 That fight was super alarming to me. 1033 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,239 And what was also really alarming was that it 1034 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:15,240 was your birthday, right? 1035 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:21,760 And that you shut down, acted like it never happened, 1036 00:35:22,018 --> 00:35:23,927 and were like, let's just party. 1037 00:35:23,928 --> 00:35:24,935 Yeah. 1038 00:35:24,936 --> 00:35:31,820 And that, to me, says that this was something that was 1039 00:35:32,780 --> 00:35:35,240 not an isolated occurrence. 1040 00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:36,460 Yeah, no, it-- 1041 00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:39,717 But again, that's what we-- we get in fights 1042 00:35:39,878 --> 00:35:42,038 and have to put a smile on. 1043 00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:44,159 We literally come into the summer 1044 00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:46,538 in a really bad place in our marriage 1045 00:35:46,539 --> 00:35:47,598 and have to put a smile on. 1046 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:49,300 Like, that's what I've been doing for years. 1047 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:53,019 I'm just-- Amanda, I don't think 1048 00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:55,399 you can sit here and say that I'm 1049 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,640 the one that is just, behind closed doors, yelling at you. 1050 00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:04,159 That is-- that's never, ever been the case. 1051 00:36:04,420 --> 00:36:07,799 I mean, have there been times where it's escalated 1052 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,539 and, like, I've also screamed back? 1053 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,599 I had to wake you up one morning just to walk the dogs, 1054 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,600 and you nearly hit me. 1055 00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:16,980 Like, you don't-- you don't remember that? 1056 00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:21,480 But the name calling typically came from you. 1057 00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:24,920 Any updates on the actual divorce filing? 1058 00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:30,059 He did respond to my lawyer with some requests. 1059 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:32,960 He wants to do a walkaway divorce, but has-- 1060 00:36:33,820 --> 00:36:34,979 is not just walking away. 1061 00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:37,099 So I have to speak-- 1062 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,359 Well, certain things like, I don't know, get your stuff out 1063 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,066 of my apartment. 1064 00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:43,259 God forbid I ask. 1065 00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:44,260 Amanda, you got to get your stuff-- 1066 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,640 Yes. No, I do. 1067 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,839 I don't think that's part of the filing. 1068 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,840 That is crazy. 1069 00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:49,219 But again, I-- 1070 00:36:49,220 --> 00:36:51,279 - It's been, like, nine months. - What other requests? 1071 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,158 when I moved out-- 1072 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:53,220 Is that, like the biggest-- 1073 00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:56,199 The other is something dog-related. 1074 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,818 Yes. 1075 00:36:56,819 --> 00:36:59,333 And there's also money stuff I didn't like-- 1076 00:36:59,334 --> 00:37:00,118 I don't want to get into-- 1077 00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:01,920 I still pay your health insurance. 1078 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:03,380 Thank you so much. 1079 00:37:05,820 --> 00:37:09,038 I think we need to accept that, no offense, Kyle, 1080 00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:11,018 but you're getting like, a golden ticket here. 1081 00:37:11,019 --> 00:37:12,400 The world loves you after this. 1082 00:37:12,644 --> 00:37:14,294 You were about to be canceled. 1083 00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:15,700 You were about to be done. 1084 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,179 God forbid I'm canceled for being an unhappy marriage 1085 00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:20,038 and being a guy in the divorce. 1086 00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:20,919 You were, though. 1087 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,520 That's not it. 1088 00:37:22,653 --> 00:37:23,870 - I mean-- - I'm not sure-- 1089 00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:25,199 You cursed her out on television. 1090 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,099 Chance to do a spread with you after. 1091 00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,019 I'm just saying, like that's something that no one's 1092 00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:31,020 really said out loud. 1093 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,639 What did-- I put a lot into our marriage 1094 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,640 and didn't get much out. 1095 00:37:34,737 --> 00:37:35,875 OK. 1096 00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:37,539 I think you're two very good people who are 1097 00:37:37,540 --> 00:37:39,180 married to the wrong person. 1098 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,360 Yeah. 1099 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:42,300 We'll be right back. 1100 00:37:52,050 --> 00:37:56,990 We are back with final moments of "In the City" season 1. 1101 00:37:57,130 --> 00:37:58,210 So here we are. 1102 00:37:58,990 --> 00:38:02,969 Do we feel lighter and at peace now that you're at this place 1103 00:38:02,970 --> 00:38:04,489 in your relationship? - Yeah. 1104 00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:05,729 I mean, it bums me out that it didn't 1105 00:38:05,730 --> 00:38:08,410 work because I think that there was a point in time 1106 00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,390 where we had some incredible chemistry. 1107 00:38:14,450 --> 00:38:17,729 I do think that the trust thing played a huge role. 1108 00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:17,969 I don't-- 1109 00:38:17,970 --> 00:38:21,209 The reason I think that we stayed together longer than we 1110 00:38:21,210 --> 00:38:25,029 should is because there's so much love between us, 1111 00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:27,030 and there is friendship there also. 1112 00:38:27,550 --> 00:38:29,789 And I mean, we fell in love with each other for a reason. 1113 00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:31,370 We agreed to get married for a reason. 1114 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:34,489 I think back to the good times we've had still to this day 1115 00:38:34,490 --> 00:38:36,768 and find myself getting emotional about it. 1116 00:38:36,769 --> 00:38:38,509 I was looking at videos the other week, 1117 00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:40,890 and like-- that popped up and was crying. 1118 00:38:41,550 --> 00:38:43,489 Because we've had such a good time together, 1119 00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:45,429 but we couldn't make it work. 1120 00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:47,489 And it sucks-- - That's what I'm saying. 1121 00:38:47,490 --> 00:38:48,490 I was bummed that we couldn't make it work. 1122 00:38:48,690 --> 00:38:51,229 But like at the end of the day, I think 1123 00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:52,750 that we are very different. 1124 00:38:53,050 --> 00:38:54,910 There were compatibility issues. 1125 00:38:56,430 --> 00:38:57,430 You love each other. 1126 00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:59,649 Unfortunately, like the-- it was like 1127 00:38:59,650 --> 00:39:01,189 too much damage had been done. 1128 00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:02,190 Yeah. 1129 00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:04,510 And I think we were both stubborn 1130 00:39:04,696 --> 00:39:07,501 and weren't willing to repair it-- 1131 00:39:07,502 --> 00:39:08,289 There was a lot of stuff-- 1132 00:39:08,290 --> 00:39:09,710 And we're set in our ways. 1133 00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:11,750 And again, I think towards the end, 1134 00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:14,269 I was already mourning the relationship. 1135 00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:16,849 And it wasn't until I was like fully 1136 00:39:16,850 --> 00:39:19,629 over it that I was like ready to remove myself from it. 1137 00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:22,729 I was holding on to anything I had left, and I was afraid to-- 1138 00:39:22,730 --> 00:39:25,529 I was afraid to leave because I was afraid to lose 1139 00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:27,710 you in my life in general. 1140 00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:29,549 That was scary, too. 1141 00:39:29,550 --> 00:39:31,531 Well-- 1142 00:39:32,070 --> 00:39:33,750 And I'm glad I haven't yet. 1143 00:39:34,750 --> 00:39:38,150 I hope that the two of you can figure out a friendship. 1144 00:39:38,370 --> 00:39:39,370 She could. 1145 00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:40,510 Look at me and Carl. 1146 00:39:41,010 --> 00:39:43,429 We're besties again, and he's no longer a mess. 1147 00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:46,509 It hasn't been easy working through our issues 1148 00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:48,730 on camera for 10 years. 1149 00:39:48,890 --> 00:39:51,450 It is a highly unusual situation 1150 00:39:51,596 --> 00:39:52,621 Yes. 1151 00:39:52,767 --> 00:39:55,752 But I'm glad that we're somehow kind of navigating 1152 00:39:55,899 --> 00:39:56,924 this next chapter. - Yes. 1153 00:39:57,070 --> 00:39:58,429 All right. 1154 00:39:58,430 --> 00:39:59,430 And we're going to leave it there. 1155 00:40:00,070 --> 00:40:02,250 I want to get some final thoughts from the group. 1156 00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:06,089 You know, Gavin and Kenny, you two kind of went 1157 00:40:06,090 --> 00:40:07,450 through it this season a bit. 1158 00:40:07,590 --> 00:40:09,170 Where are the two of you? 1159 00:40:12,789 --> 00:40:13,789 We're good. 1160 00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:14,889 I love Gavin. 1161 00:40:14,890 --> 00:40:15,889 It's always-- 1162 00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:17,209 It's-- it's one of those relationships 1163 00:40:17,210 --> 00:40:20,290 that it would take a lot, a lot, a lot to break. 1164 00:40:21,269 --> 00:40:23,809 So ups and downs, but I think we're-- 1165 00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:25,789 As you saw, I love to poke. 1166 00:40:26,350 --> 00:40:27,690 I think I bring it back. 1167 00:40:27,810 --> 00:40:30,009 - I enjoy your poking. - Thank you. 1168 00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:30,702 Yes. 1169 00:40:30,703 --> 00:40:31,294 Thank you. 1170 00:40:31,295 --> 00:40:32,009 Yes. 1171 00:40:32,010 --> 00:40:33,510 So I'm always going to jab. 1172 00:40:33,810 --> 00:40:36,809 What was Kenny's dad's reaction to the idea 1173 00:40:36,810 --> 00:40:40,710 that you two might accidentally get married in Peru? 1174 00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:42,570 I'm going to marry this girl. 1175 00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:44,270 I really am. 1176 00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:47,550 And I know that, and she knows that. 1177 00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:49,969 And it was just a funny situation where we kind 1178 00:40:49,970 --> 00:40:51,170 of accidentally got married. 1179 00:40:51,850 --> 00:40:53,190 And we were like, wait a second, kiss your wife? 1180 00:40:53,374 --> 00:40:54,438 For what happened? 1181 00:40:54,439 --> 00:40:55,504 Yeah. 1182 00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:57,930 So it was-- they were laughing about it, 1183 00:40:58,050 --> 00:41:01,390 but it's just nice to have them in that conversation. 1184 00:41:01,810 --> 00:41:02,810 Nice. 1185 00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:07,650 Andrea and Lexi, still having sex multiple times a day? 1186 00:41:07,930 --> 00:41:09,450 We're taking it easier. 1187 00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:10,309 I mean-- 1188 00:41:10,310 --> 00:41:11,909 We don't want to injure her in there. 1189 00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:12,849 she's pretty scared. 1190 00:41:12,850 --> 00:41:13,347 And, you know, I-- 1191 00:41:14,827 --> 00:41:17,713 I gotta, you know, be patient. 1192 00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:19,010 But this is what love is about. 1193 00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:21,169 Danielle and Eoin, what excites you the most 1194 00:41:21,170 --> 00:41:22,310 about becoming parents? 1195 00:41:22,530 --> 00:41:26,649 I think just raising a little Irish-Puerto Rican New 1196 00:41:26,650 --> 00:41:27,989 Yorker is going to be just-- 1197 00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:28,789 Nice. 1198 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:29,514 the best. 1199 00:41:29,515 --> 00:41:30,917 That's a great mix. 1200 00:41:31,150 --> 00:41:32,789 Irish, Puerto Rican, and a New Yorker? 1201 00:41:33,250 --> 00:41:34,250 Kind of psycho. 1202 00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:41,709 Amanda, obviously you must be very happy that this day is 1203 00:41:41,710 --> 00:41:43,609 over and that the "Summer House" 1204 00:41:43,610 --> 00:41:46,189 reunion has completed airing. 1205 00:41:46,190 --> 00:41:47,769 I'm wondering-- I mean, where do 1206 00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:50,050 you see you and West heading? 1207 00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:56,590 I'm not looking too far into the future right now. 1208 00:41:58,190 --> 00:42:01,430 Again, I thought I was going to be with Kyle forever and 1209 00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:03,690 see how that turned out. 1210 00:42:03,810 --> 00:42:05,730 So I'm just trying to take everything day by day. 1211 00:42:06,289 --> 00:42:10,110 It's hard to know what the future holds, 1212 00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:14,450 especially just being in such a shitty place right now. 1213 00:42:16,210 --> 00:42:19,330 Kyle, will Summer be fun this summer for you? 1214 00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:22,570 Summer should be fun, and Summer will be fun. 1215 00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:25,009 I'll make sure of it. I don't doubt that. 1216 00:42:25,010 --> 00:42:26,009 All right. 1217 00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:27,710 That's a great place to leave it. 1218 00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:31,149 I want to thank the gang from "In the City" for being here 1219 00:42:31,150 --> 00:42:32,990 and for a banger first season. 1220 00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:34,169 I'm Andy Cohen. 1221 00:42:34,170 --> 00:42:35,170 Good night, everybody. 1222 00:42:36,590 --> 00:42:37,650 My butt hurt. 89599

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