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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:24,024 --> 00:00:28,294 Remember when comedy meant males doing jokes about females, 2 00:00:28,295 --> 00:00:29,995 like wives and mothers‐in‐law? 3 00:00:29,997 --> 00:00:31,427 Well, the tables have turned. 4 00:00:31,431 --> 00:00:32,671 [ Spits ] 5 00:00:32,666 --> 00:00:34,096 Griffin: The idea that chicks aren funny ‐‐ 6 00:00:34,101 --> 00:00:35,941 I hate to tell you, its still very much a thing. 7 00:00:35,936 --> 00:00:38,436 Sarah: There are some people that can get their heads 8 00:00:38,438 --> 00:00:40,038 around what they don know. 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,640 Cho: I said I wanted to be a comedian. 10 00:00:41,642 --> 00:00:44,312 She said, [Korean accent] "Or maybe its better if you just die." 11 00:00:44,311 --> 00:00:47,281 I think they thought of women as a different species. 12 00:00:47,281 --> 00:00:50,051 Rivers: Very few ladies are capable of being a comedian, 13 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:51,620 and so everybody sits right up. 14 00:00:51,618 --> 00:00:54,688 Heres somebody that thinks she can do it. 15 00:00:54,688 --> 00:00:56,088 Apatow: This is a great argument 16 00:00:56,089 --> 00:00:57,959 that women are doing much better work than men. 17 00:00:57,958 --> 00:01:02,228 [ Cheers and applause ] 18 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:03,429 Youre welcome. 19 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:06,470 ♪ 20 00:01:33,627 --> 00:01:37,527 Whats the hardest part about being a female comedian? 21 00:01:37,531 --> 00:01:39,701 What is it? Whats the hardest part? 22 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:41,170 Like, what would you guess? 23 00:01:41,168 --> 00:01:42,168 Woman: Um... 24 00:01:42,169 --> 00:01:43,569 Well, its the rape. 25 00:01:43,570 --> 00:01:46,140 [ Laughter ] 26 00:01:46,139 --> 00:01:47,639 Um... 27 00:01:47,641 --> 00:01:49,981 I have a deep camaraderie 28 00:01:49,977 --> 00:01:54,547 with tough, hard‐core, funny‐ass female comedians 29 00:01:54,548 --> 00:01:57,878 because its been a long road for all of us. 30 00:01:57,884 --> 00:01:59,224 Susskind: What would make a woman 31 00:01:59,219 --> 00:02:02,959 turn from some decent thing like housewifing 32 00:02:02,956 --> 00:02:06,256 or cashiering in a five‐and‐dime store 33 00:02:06,259 --> 00:02:07,829 or dental hygiene 34 00:02:07,828 --> 00:02:11,798 and turn her to comedy as a career? 35 00:02:11,798 --> 00:02:14,168 Its definitely easier for us now 36 00:02:14,167 --> 00:02:15,697 cause weve pushed our way in, 37 00:02:15,702 --> 00:02:18,742 but back then, there was one of them, two of them. 38 00:02:18,739 --> 00:02:19,909 [ Laughs ] 39 00:02:19,906 --> 00:02:21,406 People try to analyze it. 40 00:02:21,408 --> 00:02:22,738 "Are women not funny?" 41 00:02:22,743 --> 00:02:25,253 Its like, "No, theyre oppressed, you dumb idiot." 42 00:02:25,245 --> 00:02:27,075 I really stopped a great career there. 43 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,620 Oh, and Id do it again. 44 00:02:28,615 --> 00:02:32,245 Id much rather be your wife than amount to anything. 45 00:02:32,252 --> 00:02:33,522 [ Laughter ] 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,090 Cryer: Of course, there have always been funny women. 47 00:02:36,089 --> 00:02:38,589 Its just a matter or whether the society 48 00:02:38,592 --> 00:02:41,462 that they were in was willing to let them be funny. 49 00:02:41,461 --> 00:02:45,031 We have with us this evening an international star, 50 00:02:45,032 --> 00:02:47,372 Miss Fanny Brice. 51 00:02:47,367 --> 00:02:49,167 [ Applause ] 52 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:51,399 It wasn until the late 1800s 53 00:02:51,405 --> 00:02:53,705 and the early 20th century that women 54 00:02:53,707 --> 00:02:57,637 started becoming really famous as comedic performers. 55 00:02:57,644 --> 00:02:59,484 Kohen: A lot of them were comediennes ‐‐ 56 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:01,149 a woman who gets up onstage, 57 00:03:01,148 --> 00:03:04,678 is funny, but she sings and she dances. 58 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:06,385 Hey, wait a minute. The music stopped. 59 00:03:06,386 --> 00:03:07,746 Well, I didn hear it. 60 00:03:07,754 --> 00:03:09,664 Oh, she didn hear it. 61 00:03:09,656 --> 00:03:13,156 Kohen: Shes more of an entertainer than just the straight comic. 62 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,500 That was kind of what was allowed. 63 00:03:16,496 --> 00:03:20,326 It was not really accepted for a woman to stand onstage 64 00:03:20,333 --> 00:03:22,443 and tell jokes and give their opinion 65 00:03:22,436 --> 00:03:25,266 to a bunch of men until Jean Carroll. 66 00:03:25,272 --> 00:03:27,472 Most fellas, they have a tough day at the racetrack ‐‐ 67 00:03:27,474 --> 00:03:29,884 they get nasty, but not my Jack. 68 00:03:29,876 --> 00:03:31,336 Hes so sweet. Nothing bothers him. 69 00:03:31,344 --> 00:03:33,514 He drinks. And, of course... 70 00:03:33,513 --> 00:03:34,683 [ Laughter ] 71 00:03:34,681 --> 00:03:36,181 Well, he doesn drink cause he likes it. 72 00:03:36,183 --> 00:03:38,723 He drinks to steady his nerves. 73 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:40,519 The other night, they got so steady, he couldn move at all. 74 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,720 [ Laughter ] 75 00:03:41,722 --> 00:03:43,392 Nesteroff: Jean Carroll was in a comedy team 76 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:46,160 with a guy named Buddy Howe, who she ended up marrying, 77 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:48,829 and then Buddy Howe went off to war. 78 00:03:48,829 --> 00:03:50,659 So Jean Carroll rewrote their act 79 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:52,434 so that she could do it by herself 80 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:53,732 and became a solo stand‐up. 81 00:03:53,734 --> 00:03:55,774 This guy ate like he was going to the chair. 82 00:03:55,769 --> 00:03:58,739 I mean, as for manners, you know? 83 00:03:58,739 --> 00:04:00,409 Ive seen people eat with their hands before, 84 00:04:00,407 --> 00:04:02,577 but not soup. And thats ‐‐ 85 00:04:02,576 --> 00:04:03,706 [ Laughter ] 86 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:05,550 Nesteroff: She got rave reviews. 87 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:07,345 She was playing the same venues 88 00:04:07,347 --> 00:04:10,117 as all the biggest comedians of the late 1940s 89 00:04:10,117 --> 00:04:12,517 and getting bigger laughs than the guys. 90 00:04:12,519 --> 00:04:15,519 [ Applause ] 91 00:04:15,522 --> 00:04:16,992 Welcome to "You Bet Your Life." 92 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:19,030 Say the secret words and divide an extra $100. 93 00:04:19,025 --> 00:04:20,185 Its a common word, 94 00:04:20,193 --> 00:04:22,333 something you always have with you. 95 00:04:22,329 --> 00:04:24,659 Phyllis Diller, lets start with you. 96 00:04:24,664 --> 00:04:26,034 Now, Phyllis, what do you do 97 00:04:26,032 --> 00:04:27,872 to break up the monotony of housekeeping 98 00:04:27,868 --> 00:04:30,638 and taking care of five small gorillas? 99 00:04:30,637 --> 00:04:31,767 [ Chuckles ] 100 00:04:31,772 --> 00:04:34,342 Well, Im really not a housewife anymore. 101 00:04:34,341 --> 00:04:35,911 Im an entertainer. 102 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:40,809 Phyllis Diller started comedy at 37 years old with five kids. 103 00:04:40,814 --> 00:04:42,724 She was cutting‐edge because she was doing something 104 00:04:42,716 --> 00:04:44,246 that no other woman had done before. 105 00:04:44,251 --> 00:04:46,321 I love to go to the doctor! 106 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:47,719 Ooh! 107 00:04:47,721 --> 00:04:49,191 Where else would a man look at me and say, 108 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:51,259 "Take off your clothes"? 109 00:04:51,258 --> 00:04:52,658 [ Laughter ] 110 00:04:52,659 --> 00:04:56,329 In those days, so much of comedy was just straight‐up sexist. 111 00:04:56,329 --> 00:04:57,859 "My wife is a battle axe." 112 00:04:57,864 --> 00:04:59,774 Phyllis Diller switched it around. 113 00:04:59,766 --> 00:05:02,066 Now it was about her horrible husband. 114 00:05:02,068 --> 00:05:04,298 Fang ‐‐ Thats my husband. 115 00:05:04,304 --> 00:05:05,644 He went to the dentist the other day. 116 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:07,209 The dentist told him hes got the worst set of tooth 117 00:05:07,207 --> 00:05:08,977 he ever saw in his life. 118 00:05:08,975 --> 00:05:10,375 [ Laughter ] 119 00:05:10,377 --> 00:05:13,047 Nesteroff: For a woman to go onstage and complain about that, 120 00:05:13,046 --> 00:05:15,046 it was emancipation, in a way. 121 00:05:15,048 --> 00:05:16,848 You sure youre a marriage counselor? 122 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:19,150 Of course. Don I have a sympathetic face? 123 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:21,722 Well, your face has my sympathy. 124 00:05:21,721 --> 00:05:23,721 The self‐deprecating woman 125 00:05:23,723 --> 00:05:27,493 was very popular in the comedy world. 126 00:05:27,494 --> 00:05:30,334 Back from the beauty shop, where shes just had her head 127 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:33,430 tarred and feathered, here is Miss Phyllis Diller. 128 00:05:33,433 --> 00:05:37,143 [ Applause ] 129 00:05:37,137 --> 00:05:38,667 Griffin: I think when it came to women 130 00:05:38,672 --> 00:05:40,042 doing comedy, certainly stand‐up, 131 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,040 you had to dress in a way that was crazy. 132 00:05:42,042 --> 00:05:43,612 You had to work within the confines 133 00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:46,480 of what guys would accept you doing. 134 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:48,109 What in the world? 135 00:05:48,114 --> 00:05:49,324 [ Laughter ] 136 00:05:49,316 --> 00:05:50,746 Is that a riot? 137 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:52,350 I tucked that in in the dressing room, 138 00:05:52,352 --> 00:05:53,552 and it fell out again. 139 00:05:53,553 --> 00:05:54,953 [ Laughter ] 140 00:05:54,955 --> 00:05:57,655 Kohen: Youre basically saying, "Im coming up onstage. 141 00:05:57,657 --> 00:05:59,527 Don look at me as a woman. 142 00:05:59,526 --> 00:06:01,256 Look at me as, like, a funny person." 143 00:06:01,261 --> 00:06:04,331 Just looking at the two outfits here ‐‐ 144 00:06:04,331 --> 00:06:05,701 Moms and Woodys. 145 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:08,029 I would like to wear Moms. 146 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:10,344 And Id like to wear yours. 147 00:06:10,337 --> 00:06:12,107 [ Laughter ] 148 00:06:12,105 --> 00:06:15,635 Moms Mabley, who was a great comedienne of the 30s and 40s, 149 00:06:15,642 --> 00:06:18,412 50s, didn become known by white audiences 150 00:06:18,411 --> 00:06:19,781 until the 60s, 151 00:06:19,779 --> 00:06:21,779 when there were more black faces on TV. 152 00:06:21,781 --> 00:06:25,721 Ive been accused of liking young men. 153 00:06:25,719 --> 00:06:27,649 [ Light laughter ] 154 00:06:27,654 --> 00:06:29,624 And Im guilty. [ Laughter ] 155 00:06:29,623 --> 00:06:31,523 Kohen: She was very sexual, 156 00:06:31,524 --> 00:06:36,564 and she was also very blunt and raunchy. 157 00:06:36,563 --> 00:06:39,073 Moms Mabley as an old woman was not considered a threat, 158 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:40,595 so she could get away with it. 159 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Frost: When did you get married, then, Moms? 160 00:06:42,435 --> 00:06:45,035 I was young, son. 161 00:06:45,038 --> 00:06:46,768 [ Laughter ] 162 00:06:46,773 --> 00:06:50,313 And I married a man ‐‐ 98. 163 00:06:50,310 --> 00:06:51,710 He didn live but five days. 164 00:06:51,711 --> 00:06:54,681 [ Laughter ] 165 00:06:54,681 --> 00:06:56,821 It took three undertakers a week 166 00:06:56,816 --> 00:06:59,016 to get the smile off his face. 167 00:06:59,019 --> 00:07:00,819 [ Laughter ] 168 00:07:00,820 --> 00:07:01,990 Kohen: She was more than just, 169 00:07:01,988 --> 00:07:03,258 you know, another woman in comedy. 170 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:04,716 She was much more of a pioneer. 171 00:07:04,724 --> 00:07:07,864 [ Applause ] 172 00:07:07,861 --> 00:07:09,861 Rivers: Its very hard for a woman 173 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:12,833 who has been brought up to be sweet and clingy 174 00:07:12,832 --> 00:07:15,842 to stand up in front of 2,500 people and say, 175 00:07:15,835 --> 00:07:17,295 "Okay, now, listen to me." 176 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:19,174 Its a tremendous ‐‐ 177 00:07:19,172 --> 00:07:20,842 You really have a tremendous sense of power 178 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,040 when youre standing up 179 00:07:22,042 --> 00:07:24,042 and commanding them to listen to you. 180 00:07:24,044 --> 00:07:25,584 I wouldn be single again for anything in the world 181 00:07:25,578 --> 00:07:28,608 cause I was the last girl in Larchmont, New York, to go, 182 00:07:28,615 --> 00:07:29,775 and I was desperate. 183 00:07:29,783 --> 00:07:31,923 When I say ‐‐ I was desperate. 184 00:07:31,918 --> 00:07:33,588 My parents had a big sign saying, 185 00:07:33,586 --> 00:07:34,816 "Last girl before the Thruway." 186 00:07:34,821 --> 00:07:36,561 I mean, thats how desperate I was. 187 00:07:36,556 --> 00:07:38,086 Joan was the real deal. 188 00:07:38,091 --> 00:07:39,831 Shes, like, a badass. 189 00:07:39,826 --> 00:07:42,896 She grew up in the gritty New York City scene, 190 00:07:42,896 --> 00:07:44,156 and she was breaking ground 191 00:07:44,164 --> 00:07:47,374 by just talking about her life honestly. 192 00:07:47,367 --> 00:07:49,497 This is an era where women just didn do that. 193 00:07:49,502 --> 00:07:51,702 A girl ‐‐ Youre 30 years old, youre not married ‐‐ 194 00:07:51,705 --> 00:07:53,335 Youre an old maid. 195 00:07:53,340 --> 00:07:56,310 A man ‐‐ Hes 90 years old, hes not married ‐‐ Hes a catch. 196 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:58,109 Its a whole different thing. 197 00:07:58,111 --> 00:08:00,181 She would push the boundaries constantly. 198 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:03,380 The edict was, "If its making people laugh, then its okay." 199 00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:05,183 I think you can tell what kind of a lover 200 00:08:05,185 --> 00:08:08,655 a man is gonna be from the way he tinkles. 201 00:08:08,655 --> 00:08:10,485 Everage: Who said that? 202 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:13,390 If a man in a room that is fully lit 203 00:08:13,393 --> 00:08:16,263 cannot hit a hole this big around... 204 00:08:16,262 --> 00:08:20,602 [ Laughter ] 205 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,700 Im gonna ponder on that one. 206 00:08:22,702 --> 00:08:23,802 [ Laughter ] 207 00:08:23,803 --> 00:08:26,143 Woman: There are some people 208 00:08:26,139 --> 00:08:30,679 who say that some of the things that you do or say are vulgar. 209 00:08:30,677 --> 00:08:33,147 Does that ‐‐ Life is vulgar. 210 00:08:33,146 --> 00:08:34,706 Life is outrageous. 211 00:08:34,714 --> 00:08:38,554 I find whats made my comedy work as much as its worked 212 00:08:38,551 --> 00:08:41,091 is I say things that everybody else has thought 213 00:08:41,087 --> 00:08:43,617 and not really verbalized. 214 00:08:43,623 --> 00:08:45,363 Rivers: When you die, whatever you got out of him, 215 00:08:45,358 --> 00:08:46,828 you have buried on you, 216 00:08:46,826 --> 00:08:49,026 and the next bitch wants it, make her dig for it. 217 00:08:49,029 --> 00:08:50,329 Oh, sure! 218 00:08:50,330 --> 00:08:53,000 Sarah: Joan Rivers was, at no point in her career, 219 00:08:52,999 --> 00:08:57,039 not funny because she changed with the times. 220 00:08:57,037 --> 00:09:00,467 I mean, she was an evolving, writing‐every‐day, 221 00:09:00,473 --> 00:09:02,643 real‐life comedian. 222 00:09:02,642 --> 00:09:04,842 Carson: Don you think men really like intelligence more 223 00:09:04,844 --> 00:09:06,514 when it comes right down to it? 224 00:09:06,513 --> 00:09:08,153 Oh, please, are we gonna go back to that? 225 00:09:08,148 --> 00:09:09,478 Yeah, sure. Are you kidding me? 226 00:09:09,482 --> 00:09:11,152 Its a brain, you know, a caring person. 227 00:09:11,151 --> 00:09:12,521 No man has ever put his hand 228 00:09:12,519 --> 00:09:14,589 up a womans dress looking for a library card. 229 00:09:14,587 --> 00:09:15,587 I am sorry. 230 00:09:15,588 --> 00:09:19,328 [ Laughter and applause ] 231 00:09:28,835 --> 00:09:30,295 Ill tell you its such a hat show, Fred. 232 00:09:30,303 --> 00:09:32,073 I think Ill get another station. Oh. 233 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:34,212 As our first offering this evening, we ‐‐ Stop that! 234 00:09:34,207 --> 00:09:36,537 Go back and sit down! 235 00:09:36,543 --> 00:09:37,843 [ Laughter ] 236 00:09:37,844 --> 00:09:39,384 Leifer: When I was growing up, 237 00:09:39,379 --> 00:09:43,519 I was an "I Love Lucy" freak, could lip‐sync it. 238 00:09:43,516 --> 00:09:45,116 I love that I can turn on something 239 00:09:45,118 --> 00:09:48,048 thats over 60 years old now and go, 240 00:09:48,054 --> 00:09:49,264 "You can beat these jokes. 241 00:09:49,255 --> 00:09:51,555 And you can beat these characters." 242 00:09:51,558 --> 00:09:53,188 ♪ I took the wind ♪ 243 00:09:53,193 --> 00:09:56,363 ♪ Wind ♪ 244 00:09:56,362 --> 00:09:58,462 ♪ Ooooh ♪ 245 00:09:58,465 --> 00:09:59,895 [ Laughter ] 246 00:09:59,899 --> 00:10:01,599 McKay: This is a woman in a time 247 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:04,801 where comedy was completely dominated by men. 248 00:10:04,804 --> 00:10:08,714 Not only does this show become the comedy show, 249 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:11,108 they then create the modern model 250 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:13,081 for all the sitcoms to follow. 251 00:10:13,079 --> 00:10:16,119 Shes an absolute titan of comedy. 252 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:19,546 White: To have a woman be not only a comedian 253 00:10:19,552 --> 00:10:22,252 but a solid business person, 254 00:10:22,255 --> 00:10:25,725 she broke ground for generations of us. 255 00:10:25,725 --> 00:10:28,025 [ Laughter ] 256 00:10:28,027 --> 00:10:30,257 Burnett: You don see too many beautiful women 257 00:10:30,263 --> 00:10:32,103 be clowns like that, 258 00:10:32,098 --> 00:10:34,728 and she was, indeed, a beautiful woman. 259 00:10:34,734 --> 00:10:37,804 You know, she was a movie star at MGM, 260 00:10:37,804 --> 00:10:39,944 and nobody ever knew she could be funny. 261 00:10:39,939 --> 00:10:42,109 [ Laughter ] 262 00:10:42,108 --> 00:10:45,508 Ball: Mugging and doing pratfalls and doing things 263 00:10:45,512 --> 00:10:47,052 that maybe nice little girls 264 00:10:47,046 --> 00:10:48,806 weren supposed to do at one time. 265 00:10:48,815 --> 00:10:50,845 I have never thought of it as a hindrance, 266 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:52,420 as something that we shouldn do. 267 00:10:52,418 --> 00:10:55,488 We just go ahead and do them. We don think how we look. 268 00:10:55,488 --> 00:10:58,218 Is it easy, for instance, say, to be sexy and funny 269 00:10:58,224 --> 00:10:59,734 at the same time? Oh, yes. 270 00:10:59,726 --> 00:11:01,586 Very easy. 271 00:11:01,594 --> 00:11:05,934 [ Laughter ] 272 00:11:05,932 --> 00:11:07,772 It may be easy for you, Carol. 273 00:11:07,767 --> 00:11:09,497 [ Laughter ] 274 00:11:09,502 --> 00:11:13,012 Carol Burnett is the single most talented woman, 275 00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:14,866 or performer, ever. 276 00:11:14,874 --> 00:11:16,414 She could do everything. 277 00:11:16,409 --> 00:11:19,449 Nesteroff: She started on the "Garry Moore Show" 278 00:11:19,445 --> 00:11:20,675 and became a big star. 279 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,110 What have I done?! 280 00:11:22,115 --> 00:11:26,315 People forget just how much she was a part of the culture 281 00:11:26,319 --> 00:11:28,149 at one point in time. 282 00:11:28,154 --> 00:11:31,224 Burnett: I did not think that I would want to ever ‐‐ 283 00:11:31,224 --> 00:11:33,164 could ever host a variety show. 284 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:35,629 Welcome to our first show that were doing. 285 00:11:35,628 --> 00:11:38,128 Im real excited and very, very happy 286 00:11:38,131 --> 00:11:39,501 that youre all with us tonight. 287 00:11:39,499 --> 00:11:41,829 Looks like we got a nice, full group. 288 00:11:41,834 --> 00:11:43,574 Could you bump up the lights so I can see ‐‐ 289 00:11:43,570 --> 00:11:46,370 Ooh! Gorgeous! 290 00:11:46,372 --> 00:11:48,242 They had an image of a fella 291 00:11:48,241 --> 00:11:50,441 in a tuxedo coming out and doing a monologue, 292 00:11:50,443 --> 00:11:52,343 and, "How will a woman...?" 293 00:11:52,345 --> 00:11:54,875 You know, "Will they take a woman doing this?" 294 00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:56,851 And we said, "Well, I hope theyll take me 295 00:11:56,849 --> 00:11:58,119 at least for 13 weeks." 296 00:11:58,117 --> 00:12:00,487 And it worked. 297 00:12:00,486 --> 00:12:01,946 It worked for 11 years. 298 00:12:01,955 --> 00:12:04,355 I never thought it would go that long. 299 00:12:04,357 --> 00:12:06,727 I knew I wanted to do musical, comedy. 300 00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:08,026 I wanted guest stars. 301 00:12:08,027 --> 00:12:10,727 Excu‐u‐u‐se me! 302 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:12,200 I wanted to do sketches. 303 00:12:12,198 --> 00:12:15,228 I wanted a rep company the way Sid Caesar had one. 304 00:12:15,235 --> 00:12:19,505 [ Laughter ] 305 00:12:19,505 --> 00:12:21,935 Curtain, you fools! Curtain! 306 00:12:21,941 --> 00:12:23,081 [ Laughter ] 307 00:12:23,076 --> 00:12:25,636 [ Applause ] 308 00:12:25,645 --> 00:12:27,545 Parent: There were 10 variety shows on 309 00:12:27,547 --> 00:12:29,677 at the same time that Carol Burnett was on, 310 00:12:29,682 --> 00:12:35,052 and there were approximately 10 comedy writers on each show. 311 00:12:35,054 --> 00:12:38,594 And I was the only woman out of all of them. 312 00:12:38,591 --> 00:12:41,091 Kohen: The funny thing about female writers in television 313 00:12:41,094 --> 00:12:42,704 was that in the beginning, 314 00:12:42,695 --> 00:12:45,025 I would not say they were very welcomed, 315 00:12:45,031 --> 00:12:47,371 although there were certainly exceptions. 316 00:12:47,367 --> 00:12:49,737 Treva: I interviewed for the "Carson Show." 317 00:12:49,736 --> 00:12:51,866 And I called my agent. 318 00:12:51,871 --> 00:12:53,841 And I said, "I think it went really well." 319 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,910 And he said, "Im sorry, honey, but they just called and said 320 00:12:57,910 --> 00:13:01,210 they would not feel comfortable with a woman in the room." 321 00:13:01,214 --> 00:13:02,754 Being a comedy writer 322 00:13:02,749 --> 00:13:05,419 is not the most macho profession, 323 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:08,918 so I think there was a certain defensiveness 324 00:13:08,921 --> 00:13:10,391 and overcompensation. 325 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:11,490 [ Laughs ] 326 00:13:11,491 --> 00:13:13,661 I like that inside track of getting to hear 327 00:13:13,660 --> 00:13:15,560 how men talk if women weren around 328 00:13:15,561 --> 00:13:17,061 cause it was almost like you weren around. 329 00:13:17,063 --> 00:13:19,233 It was filthy. 330 00:13:19,232 --> 00:13:23,272 The language was disgusting. 331 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:24,669 I loved it. 332 00:13:24,671 --> 00:13:26,811 Youll have such a time, such fun, such ‐‐ 333 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:29,306 Oh, youll ‐‐ I have to warn you, though. 334 00:13:29,309 --> 00:13:31,109 Theres a street down there in Rome 335 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:32,980 where it just isn safe for a woman. 336 00:13:32,979 --> 00:13:34,709 Where?! Where?! Where?! 337 00:13:34,714 --> 00:13:36,854 [ Laughter ] 338 00:13:36,849 --> 00:13:38,919 Kohen: When you get to "Your Show of Shows," 339 00:13:38,918 --> 00:13:41,518 you know, thats a very famous writers room, 340 00:13:41,521 --> 00:13:43,991 and you had two women who worked at separate times. 341 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:45,520 The first was Lucille Callen, 342 00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:47,185 and the second was Selma Diamond. 343 00:13:47,193 --> 00:13:50,203 Reiner: It was always right to have the womans viewpoint. 344 00:13:50,196 --> 00:13:52,596 And who better than women to say, 345 00:13:52,598 --> 00:13:54,028 "Women will laugh at that"? 346 00:13:54,033 --> 00:13:55,333 And so when I put together 347 00:13:55,335 --> 00:13:56,965 the characters for the "Van Dyke Show," 348 00:13:56,969 --> 00:13:59,239 I said, "We need the womans viewpoint." 349 00:13:59,238 --> 00:14:00,608 And when I told my agent, 350 00:14:00,606 --> 00:14:02,836 he immediately said, "Rose Marie." 351 00:14:02,842 --> 00:14:04,482 Its a beautiful piece of writing. 352 00:14:04,477 --> 00:14:06,507 It really is, but you know Alan. 353 00:14:06,512 --> 00:14:08,282 If he doesn get a laugh every 10 seconds, 354 00:14:08,281 --> 00:14:10,781 he calls the cops and has the audience arrested. 355 00:14:10,783 --> 00:14:11,953 [ Laughter ] 356 00:14:11,951 --> 00:14:13,491 Chupack: Rose Marie on the "Dick Van Dyke Show" 357 00:14:13,486 --> 00:14:14,816 was great for women 358 00:14:14,821 --> 00:14:16,861 who might aspire to being in the writers room 359 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,656 because that was the first glimpse we got 360 00:14:18,658 --> 00:14:20,158 maybe that that was possible. 361 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:23,699 Kohen: Its not like there were plenty of career women on TV. 362 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:25,756 Women were mainly housewives in the sitcoms, 363 00:14:25,765 --> 00:14:27,065 or they were secretaries and teachers. 364 00:14:27,066 --> 00:14:28,366 They weren writers. 365 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:30,868 You mean to say that youd give up your job for us? 366 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:32,710 Yeah. Compared to you, Im a rat. 367 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:34,705 Compared to a rat, youre a rat. 368 00:14:34,707 --> 00:14:35,707 [ Laughter ] 369 00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:38,238 My mother didn want me to be funny 370 00:14:38,244 --> 00:14:40,684 because how was I gonna get married 371 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,720 and be funny at the same time? 372 00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:44,715 But here was Rose Marie. 373 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:47,587 She was blonde and pretty and funny, 374 00:14:47,587 --> 00:14:50,617 and I kind of liked that idea. 375 00:14:50,623 --> 00:14:52,493 No, uh, don ‐‐ don bother to send it, Mom. 376 00:14:52,492 --> 00:14:54,432 I don think Im going to Mexico, after all. 377 00:14:54,427 --> 00:14:55,427 [ Telephone rings ] 378 00:14:55,428 --> 00:14:57,898 Um, hang on there, Mom, will you? 379 00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,527 Newsroom. Hello, Mary? 380 00:14:59,532 --> 00:15:00,802 [ Laughter ] 381 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,900 The "Mary Tyler Moore Show" changed everything. 382 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:06,943 They brought a lot of women into the business. 383 00:15:06,939 --> 00:15:08,839 Here we go. Ready? Action. 384 00:15:08,841 --> 00:15:10,581 Kohen: They wanted to make a truthful story 385 00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:12,476 about a single woman in her 30s, 386 00:15:12,478 --> 00:15:15,248 and I think that Jim Brooks and Alan Burns realized 387 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:17,148 that if we want to have the right details, 388 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:19,690 we have to ask women what the stories are here. 389 00:15:19,685 --> 00:15:22,345 You look different. I like it. 390 00:15:22,355 --> 00:15:23,515 Well... 391 00:15:23,523 --> 00:15:24,593 Yeah. 392 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:25,960 I like it back here, too. 393 00:15:25,958 --> 00:15:27,788 [ Laughter ] 394 00:15:27,794 --> 00:15:29,964 I have a feeling hes gonna kick my tires. 395 00:15:29,962 --> 00:15:31,302 [ Laughter ] 396 00:15:31,297 --> 00:15:34,697 Women are so important in the bigger world of comedy 397 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:36,900 because our experience is different, 398 00:15:36,903 --> 00:15:40,613 and theres that much more to mine for humor. 399 00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:42,466 I don know what you two are laughing at, 400 00:15:42,475 --> 00:15:44,335 but Ill take a chance its dirty. 401 00:15:44,343 --> 00:15:45,383 [ Laughs ] 402 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:47,108 Betty White on "Mary Tyler Moore" 403 00:15:47,113 --> 00:15:49,883 is one of my favorite characters of all time. 404 00:15:49,882 --> 00:15:51,222 I mean, what a viper. 405 00:15:51,217 --> 00:15:53,947 Wherever did you find a party hat made of skin? 406 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,193 [ Laughter ] 407 00:15:55,188 --> 00:15:57,288 White: Sue Ann Nivens was sort of fun to play 408 00:15:57,290 --> 00:16:01,630 because something that Betty might be shy about doing, 409 00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:03,457 she would do in a heartbeat. 410 00:16:03,463 --> 00:16:07,303 Tell me one good thing about me ‐‐ Anything at all. 411 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,640 Youre attractive. Very attractive. 412 00:16:09,635 --> 00:16:12,195 Sexy, provocative. 413 00:16:12,205 --> 00:16:16,005 A tawny, sensual beast. 414 00:16:16,008 --> 00:16:17,778 Yes, a beast. 415 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:19,447 [ Laughter ] 416 00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:21,445 Treva: I think it was important to all of us 417 00:16:21,447 --> 00:16:23,547 to try to reflect 418 00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:26,189 what was happening with women during that time. 419 00:16:26,185 --> 00:16:28,585 Things were changing so quickly, 420 00:16:28,588 --> 00:16:30,358 and we were right in the middle of it. 421 00:16:30,356 --> 00:16:34,426 It was an explosive time with situation comedy, 422 00:16:34,427 --> 00:16:38,527 and I think many more women started working at that point. 423 00:16:38,531 --> 00:16:41,171 Did you find it fun to be the only girl writer around? 424 00:16:41,167 --> 00:16:42,527 With some men. 425 00:16:42,535 --> 00:16:45,395 Some men are secure enough to accept it. 426 00:16:45,404 --> 00:16:47,874 A lot of them gave me a lot of trouble, 427 00:16:47,874 --> 00:16:50,444 and theyre running candy stores in Brooklyn. 428 00:16:50,443 --> 00:16:51,443 [ Laughter ] 429 00:16:51,444 --> 00:16:52,584 No, no, thats true. 430 00:16:52,578 --> 00:16:55,048 Insecure people don get anyplace. 431 00:16:55,047 --> 00:16:56,547 Youve got to face it. 432 00:16:56,549 --> 00:16:59,489 Women are here to stay. 433 00:16:59,485 --> 00:17:04,685 [ Cheers and applause ] 434 00:17:10,329 --> 00:17:13,369 Welcome to Long Dust. Can I help you? 435 00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:16,596 [ Crying ] Yes. I...I read your ad. 436 00:17:16,602 --> 00:17:19,712 I‐Id like to know about the $65 funeral. 437 00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:20,905 I see. 438 00:17:20,907 --> 00:17:22,777 [ Laughter ] 439 00:17:22,775 --> 00:17:25,535 Was that for yourself? 440 00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:27,075 [ Laughter ] 441 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:29,779 Mike Nichols and Elaine May met in Chicago 442 00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:31,522 at the birth of improv. 443 00:17:31,517 --> 00:17:32,947 Burnett: They didn write jokes. 444 00:17:32,952 --> 00:17:34,652 They wrote situations 445 00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:37,064 that were just hysterically funny, 446 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:38,986 but that you could relate to. 447 00:17:38,991 --> 00:17:41,091 Would you be interested in some extras 448 00:17:41,093 --> 00:17:42,903 for the loved one? 449 00:17:42,895 --> 00:17:45,195 What kind of extras? 450 00:17:45,197 --> 00:17:47,727 Well, how about a coffin? 451 00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:51,673 [ Laughter ] 452 00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:55,241 My life changed the day my parents took me 453 00:17:55,241 --> 00:17:57,811 to see Nichols and May on Broadway. 454 00:17:57,810 --> 00:18:02,050 Before that, all I saw were comedians talking about 455 00:18:02,048 --> 00:18:03,418 how bad their wives were 456 00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:05,576 or how bad their mother‐in‐laws were. 457 00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:07,215 Take my wife, please. 458 00:18:07,219 --> 00:18:10,259 And then all of a sudden, the sky opened up, 459 00:18:10,256 --> 00:18:12,056 and there were Nichols and May. 460 00:18:12,058 --> 00:18:15,628 And I thought to myself, "Now thats funny." 461 00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:18,458 Well, tell me, how do you put your sketches together now? 462 00:18:18,464 --> 00:18:20,334 Do you outline them, 463 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:22,673 or are they fairly well written out? 464 00:18:22,668 --> 00:18:26,408 Well, we don ever write anything down. 465 00:18:26,405 --> 00:18:27,905 And we don ever outline them. 466 00:18:27,907 --> 00:18:29,707 Its a terrifying process. 467 00:18:29,709 --> 00:18:31,309 What kind of an excuse is that? 468 00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:32,710 Well, its ‐‐ What do you mean?! Well, I mean, 469 00:18:32,712 --> 00:18:36,322 all the other scientists have mothers, Im sure. 470 00:18:36,315 --> 00:18:39,515 And Im sure that they all find time after breakfast 471 00:18:39,518 --> 00:18:42,148 or before their count‐off to pick up a phone 472 00:18:42,154 --> 00:18:44,294 and call their mother! 473 00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:46,660 Kohen: Elaine May was always the writer of the two. 474 00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:49,059 I don think shes given enough credit for being kind of 475 00:18:49,061 --> 00:18:52,401 one of these foundational people of improv. 476 00:18:52,398 --> 00:18:53,628 Nesteroff: She was smart. She was witty. 477 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:54,773 She was sexy. 478 00:18:54,767 --> 00:18:57,197 She was everything that female comedians 479 00:18:57,203 --> 00:19:00,073 up to that point weren allowed to be. 480 00:19:00,072 --> 00:19:02,342 Well, thank you very much, Jack. 481 00:19:02,341 --> 00:19:03,481 Thats okay. 482 00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:04,676 [ Laughs ] 483 00:19:04,677 --> 00:19:07,007 Vardalos: And thats when I realized its possible. 484 00:19:07,013 --> 00:19:10,353 You have to write to the point where you get respect 485 00:19:10,349 --> 00:19:12,819 cause nobodys gonna hand it to you as a female. 486 00:19:12,818 --> 00:19:14,188 Come on, Lily. Lily Tomlin. 487 00:19:14,186 --> 00:19:15,316 What are you gonna do? 488 00:19:15,321 --> 00:19:17,821 Im gonna do a lady tonight 489 00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:20,333 whos an employee of one of Americas 490 00:19:20,326 --> 00:19:22,186 most beloved institutions. 491 00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:23,504 Phoenicia? 492 00:19:23,496 --> 00:19:25,456 Phoenicia, this is Ernestine. 493 00:19:25,464 --> 00:19:29,334 I want you to send out a service check on all the circuits at ‐‐ 494 00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:33,165 at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. 495 00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:35,672 Well, because, honey, its almost impossible 496 00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:38,475 to get through to that man. 497 00:19:38,477 --> 00:19:40,047 [ Laughter ] 498 00:19:40,046 --> 00:19:41,676 [ Laughs ] 499 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:43,121 Nesteroff: In the 60s, 500 00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:46,545 "Laugh‐In" was one of the hottest programs on TV. 501 00:19:46,552 --> 00:19:49,792 And all these famous characters we associate with Lily Tomlin 502 00:19:49,789 --> 00:19:53,429 became famous then and turned her into a huge star. 503 00:19:53,426 --> 00:19:55,086 And thats the truth. Pbht! 504 00:19:55,094 --> 00:19:56,604 Markoe: She was hip. 505 00:19:56,595 --> 00:20:00,025 She was not doing material about being a frustrated wife. 506 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:01,532 She was doing character material, 507 00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:04,204 and it was really new and different and brilliant. 508 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:07,013 Mama said you went to college. 509 00:20:07,006 --> 00:20:08,306 Mama said that? 510 00:20:08,307 --> 00:20:10,337 Im not going to college when I grow up. 511 00:20:10,342 --> 00:20:11,942 No. No. Cause I seen pictures 512 00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:14,254 where they shoot you in college. 513 00:20:14,246 --> 00:20:15,246 [ Laughter ] 514 00:20:15,247 --> 00:20:17,347 [ Applause ] 515 00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:19,119 Nesteroff: Her characters were no longer 516 00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:21,548 just innocuous, wacky, and weird. 517 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:23,294 They started to become characters 518 00:20:23,289 --> 00:20:25,959 with a subtle political point of view. 519 00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:29,258 Recently, I did my most eloquent sculpture to date. 520 00:20:29,261 --> 00:20:31,501 I used four gallons of vanilla ice cream, 521 00:20:31,497 --> 00:20:34,427 and I molded the first family. 522 00:20:34,433 --> 00:20:36,503 And then I invited some of my friends over, 523 00:20:36,502 --> 00:20:39,712 and we sat around and watched them melt. 524 00:20:39,705 --> 00:20:42,165 Kohen: She was a very dominant voice at the time. 525 00:20:42,174 --> 00:20:43,944 I mean, you can find Rolling Stone covers 526 00:20:43,943 --> 00:20:46,413 where it was, like Richard Pryor, Lily Tomlin, 527 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,182 and they are our most dangerous comedians 528 00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:50,180 doing the most dangerous stuff. 529 00:20:50,182 --> 00:20:53,422 Nesteroff: They both immersed themselves in characters. 530 00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:57,619 The very first Lily Tomlin special on NBC, 1974, 531 00:20:57,623 --> 00:20:59,023 they both won Emmy Awards. 532 00:20:59,024 --> 00:21:01,334 So did its producer, a guy named Lorne Michaels. 533 00:21:01,327 --> 00:21:03,497 And based on the strength of that special, 534 00:21:03,496 --> 00:21:04,726 the "Lily" special, 535 00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:06,830 he got the pilot for "Saturday Night Live." 536 00:21:06,832 --> 00:21:09,032 "Dear Roseanne Roseannadanna..." 537 00:21:09,034 --> 00:21:11,474 I don know where you get it, how you get it, 538 00:21:11,470 --> 00:21:13,010 or who actually milks the dogs, 539 00:21:13,005 --> 00:21:14,305 and I don care to know. 540 00:21:14,306 --> 00:21:15,536 Hi. [ Laughs ] 541 00:21:15,541 --> 00:21:18,941 "Saturday Night Live" definitely early on ‐‐ 542 00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:20,454 amazing that right out of the gate, 543 00:21:20,446 --> 00:21:23,846 it was Laraine Newman and Jane Curtin and Gilda Radner. 544 00:21:23,849 --> 00:21:26,179 Now, Candy, Candy... 545 00:21:26,185 --> 00:21:27,445 They could definitely hang with the guys. 546 00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:29,663 They were just as important, and they were hilarious. 547 00:21:29,655 --> 00:21:33,225 Hey, stud muffins, want to make bouncy bouncy? 548 00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:36,185 [ Laughter ] 549 00:21:36,195 --> 00:21:39,325 They had three female performers and three female writers, 550 00:21:39,331 --> 00:21:41,671 which, if you look at the comedy landscape 551 00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:43,297 at that time, is unheard of. 552 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:45,442 What made "Saturday Night Live" different from 553 00:21:45,437 --> 00:21:48,537 those other shows was, our show was the first one 554 00:21:48,541 --> 00:21:51,941 to really have a voice for a younger generation. 555 00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:53,654 Then the man... 556 00:21:55,247 --> 00:21:57,117 Ew! 557 00:21:57,116 --> 00:22:02,816 Ew! Yahhh! 558 00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:03,962 Thats disgusting. 559 00:22:03,956 --> 00:22:05,186 And then you scream, 560 00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:07,461 and then he screams, and then its over. 561 00:22:07,459 --> 00:22:08,689 [ Groans ] 562 00:22:08,694 --> 00:22:11,534 The early days of "SNL" were a tale of two worlds 563 00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:14,500 because you had these great female writers like Anne Beatts 564 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:16,570 and Marilyn Miller and Rosie Shuster. 565 00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:18,369 But then you had ‐‐ Like, John Belushi 566 00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:20,570 didn want to do sketches that were written by women. 567 00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:23,843 I like sirloin steak. I like American food. 568 00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:25,443 Wrap it up. Don push me, Curtin! 569 00:22:25,444 --> 00:22:27,654 I mean it! John used to regularly ask 570 00:22:27,646 --> 00:22:30,646 for the women to be fired [Laughs] on the show 571 00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:32,049 because chicks just weren funny. 572 00:22:32,051 --> 00:22:34,451 Awful! Awful! 573 00:22:34,453 --> 00:22:35,793 Awful! Couldn be worse! 574 00:22:35,788 --> 00:22:39,288 Really enough to make you want to puke your guts out. 575 00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:41,061 Beatts: It was an uphill battle. 576 00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:43,330 Lorne used to come round to me and Rosie and go, like, 577 00:22:43,329 --> 00:22:45,129 "So, what have you got for the girls?" 578 00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:47,230 We felt an obligation to cover them 579 00:22:47,233 --> 00:22:49,533 since the men didn write that much for them. 580 00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:56,405 [ Laughing ] 581 00:22:56,408 --> 00:22:57,908 But seriously... 582 00:22:57,910 --> 00:22:59,140 [ Laughter ] 583 00:22:59,144 --> 00:23:01,284 They started to write more for Gilda 584 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,550 because Gilda was very outgoing, you know, 585 00:23:03,549 --> 00:23:06,989 and she was more of a proven laugh‐getter. 586 00:23:06,986 --> 00:23:09,616 Ahh! Thats the... 587 00:23:09,622 --> 00:23:11,762 No! Im gonna have to... 588 00:23:11,757 --> 00:23:13,457 Bloom: When I saw Gilda Radner, my mind was blown. 589 00:23:13,459 --> 00:23:15,389 There was just something about her that was really magnetic. 590 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:18,134 She committed to it so hard, and she wasn afraid 591 00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:21,530 to not be dainty with her character work. 592 00:23:21,533 --> 00:23:24,843 What is that bewitching scent youre wearing? 593 00:23:24,837 --> 00:23:26,167 Vicks VapoRub. 594 00:23:26,171 --> 00:23:27,371 [ Laughter ] 595 00:23:27,373 --> 00:23:29,443 There was never a moment 596 00:23:29,441 --> 00:23:31,481 when you thought, "Wait a second. 597 00:23:31,477 --> 00:23:33,477 These women don deserve to be there." 598 00:23:33,479 --> 00:23:35,349 What do you see? 599 00:23:35,347 --> 00:23:36,347 Wax buildup. 600 00:23:36,348 --> 00:23:37,778 Kohen: The stuff they were doing 601 00:23:37,783 --> 00:23:39,523 was as edgy as what the guys were doing, 602 00:23:39,518 --> 00:23:42,188 and a lot of the sketches have withstood the test of time. 603 00:23:42,187 --> 00:23:44,817 I love him! I love him! 604 00:23:44,823 --> 00:23:45,823 I love him! 605 00:23:45,824 --> 00:23:48,064 And where he goes, Ill swallow, 606 00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:50,000 Ill swallow, Ill swallow. 607 00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:01,674 Man: It is possible ‐‐ but just barely ‐‐ 608 00:24:01,674 --> 00:24:03,244 that one of the people waiting in line 609 00:24:03,242 --> 00:24:06,342 outside this New York nightclub is a future star. 610 00:24:06,345 --> 00:24:08,275 It is certain that each one thinks 611 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,350 he or she is star material, talented, 612 00:24:10,349 --> 00:24:12,649 and just waiting for the right break. 613 00:24:12,651 --> 00:24:15,821 Zoglin: In the 70s, when the stand‐up comedy boom is starting, 614 00:24:15,821 --> 00:24:17,791 women definitely had a tougher time. 615 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:20,160 Only a very few, like Elayne Boosler, 616 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:23,059 managed to crack the stand‐up comedy clubs. 617 00:24:23,062 --> 00:24:25,232 Do you know that people have donor cards 618 00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:27,970 on their drivers licenses, that if they have an accident 619 00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:29,897 they will leave parts of their body to someone? 620 00:24:29,902 --> 00:24:31,302 Who would want to receive the eyes 621 00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:33,273 that didn see the car in the first place? 622 00:24:33,272 --> 00:24:36,142 [ Laughter ] 623 00:24:36,141 --> 00:24:38,281 Elayne Boosler was a game‐changer 624 00:24:38,277 --> 00:24:40,247 because before her, 625 00:24:40,245 --> 00:24:43,945 there hadn been a young, single, 626 00:24:43,949 --> 00:24:47,589 female comic who went out onstage with no apologies 627 00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:50,656 for who she was and just kind of told it like is. 628 00:24:50,656 --> 00:24:53,086 I guess maybe breasts are the most important part 629 00:24:53,092 --> 00:24:54,492 of the body, when you think about it. 630 00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:56,763 I mean, without them, employers just wouldn know 631 00:24:56,762 --> 00:24:59,932 who to give the smaller paychecks to, so... 632 00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:03,772 I came along in 73 and started to reflect the times I lived in. 633 00:25:03,769 --> 00:25:06,299 Women were starting to work. The pill was here. 634 00:25:06,305 --> 00:25:08,605 Single women were starting to have sex. 635 00:25:08,607 --> 00:25:09,877 You weren labeled anymore. 636 00:25:09,875 --> 00:25:11,075 They think were dumb, 637 00:25:11,076 --> 00:25:12,576 so they put too many directions on the products. 638 00:25:12,578 --> 00:25:14,008 Like, on the home pregnancy test, it says, 639 00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:15,913 "For use in the privacy of your own home." 640 00:25:15,914 --> 00:25:17,154 Oh, good. 641 00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:19,519 I was gonna drive to a crowded shopping center. 642 00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:22,748 That was a little threatening to some men in the audience 643 00:25:22,755 --> 00:25:24,755 and even for some club owners. 644 00:25:24,757 --> 00:25:27,057 Boosler: Everyone in the business tried to talk me out of it. 645 00:25:27,059 --> 00:25:28,389 "You can be pretty and do comedy. 646 00:25:28,394 --> 00:25:29,464 You can do it." 647 00:25:29,461 --> 00:25:31,131 And my best line in those years was, 648 00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:34,300 "Im just a human being trapped in a womans body." 649 00:25:34,299 --> 00:25:37,239 And I really believe that summed up my approach to comedy. 650 00:25:37,236 --> 00:25:39,036 [ Applause ] 651 00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:41,508 Way back when, 652 00:25:41,507 --> 00:25:43,577 when I started doing comedy in 1979, 653 00:25:43,575 --> 00:25:45,335 there were only six female comedians 654 00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:47,514 working on the circuit, only six, and it was really odd. 655 00:25:47,513 --> 00:25:49,453 We didn know each other because the club owners 656 00:25:49,448 --> 00:25:51,778 would never book us together cause it was such a rarity 657 00:25:51,784 --> 00:25:53,624 to have a female comic to begin with. 658 00:25:53,619 --> 00:25:55,189 In fact, I remember when Id go to some clubs 659 00:25:55,187 --> 00:25:56,347 around the country, 660 00:25:56,355 --> 00:25:58,055 whenever I performed, the emcee would go, 661 00:25:58,057 --> 00:26:00,987 "Youre not gonna believe what we have coming up next! 662 00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:02,533 Youre not gonna believe it! 663 00:26:02,528 --> 00:26:04,928 Its a female comic!" 664 00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:07,570 Like it was some sort of estrogen freak show. 665 00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:08,966 [ Laughter ] 666 00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:11,067 I have definitely heard some crazy intros over the years. 667 00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:12,270 Sometimes Ill go up on shows, 668 00:26:12,271 --> 00:26:13,971 and there will be sort of an apology, like, 669 00:26:13,972 --> 00:26:17,012 "You guys, shes really funny. 670 00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:19,139 Shes one of my good friends." 671 00:26:19,144 --> 00:26:22,414 "We got a lady coming up next who tells jokes. 672 00:26:22,414 --> 00:26:23,784 How about that?" 673 00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:26,282 So, Id get up there, and Id be like, "I know. 674 00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:28,515 Whats with the jokes and the vagina? 675 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,520 Am I right, fellas?" 676 00:26:29,521 --> 00:26:31,421 [ Laughter ] 677 00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:34,693 Kohen: Stand‐up in general is a hostile environment, 678 00:26:34,693 --> 00:26:36,463 and I think if you were a woman, 679 00:26:36,462 --> 00:26:39,262 that hostile environment just was like up times 10. 680 00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:42,074 You know, professional sports just don do a thing for me. 681 00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:44,067 I like to ‐‐ 682 00:26:44,069 --> 00:26:46,569 [ Man shouts indistinctly ] 683 00:26:46,572 --> 00:26:48,612 Good point. My mistake. 684 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:53,447 [ Laughter ] 685 00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:56,545 Of course, I enjoy you very, very much, but... 686 00:26:56,548 --> 00:26:58,878 When I was coming up, I could always tell 687 00:26:58,884 --> 00:27:02,694 if I saw three or more young guys in a group, 688 00:27:02,688 --> 00:27:05,458 I could kind of set my watch to it and go, 689 00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:08,257 "When I go onstage, those guys are gonna give me a problem." 690 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:09,690 All right. [ Man shouts indistinctly ] 691 00:27:09,695 --> 00:27:10,995 If that man screams one more time, 692 00:27:10,996 --> 00:27:11,996 Im gonna whack his peepee. 693 00:27:11,997 --> 00:27:13,567 Do you understand what Im gonna do? 694 00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:14,565 [ Applause ] 695 00:27:14,566 --> 00:27:16,266 When guys give you a hard time, 696 00:27:16,268 --> 00:27:18,498 you should just go right for the jugular, 697 00:27:18,504 --> 00:27:19,904 which is basically... 698 00:27:19,905 --> 00:27:21,105 "Hey, buddy, I don go to your job 699 00:27:21,106 --> 00:27:22,366 and knock the dicks out of your mouth"... 700 00:27:22,374 --> 00:27:26,114 which I think is appropriate and funny. 701 00:27:26,111 --> 00:27:27,511 Mister, I don have time 702 00:27:27,513 --> 00:27:29,983 to tell you all the things that are the matter with you, 703 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:32,752 but lets start with that checkered bell‐bottom suit. 704 00:27:32,751 --> 00:27:34,091 Kohen: You had to learn to deal with it 705 00:27:34,086 --> 00:27:35,516 if you wanted to make it in the clubs, 706 00:27:35,521 --> 00:27:36,591 and the best ones did. 707 00:27:36,588 --> 00:27:37,718 Hi, pigs. 708 00:27:37,723 --> 00:27:39,123 [ Laughter ] 709 00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:42,564 I don know how to say this, but I want to be on you. 710 00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:43,761 [ Laughter ] 711 00:27:43,762 --> 00:27:45,832 Rudner: I dated my last boyfriend for two years, 712 00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:47,831 and finally, I gave him an ultimatum. 713 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,733 You know, I said, "Listen, either you tell me your name, 714 00:27:49,735 --> 00:27:52,195 or its over." [ Laughter ] 715 00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:55,444 This is my long, luxurious, blond hair. 716 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,540 [ Laughter ] 717 00:27:56,542 --> 00:27:57,982 Ain it pretty? 718 00:27:57,976 --> 00:27:59,006 All: Yeah! 719 00:27:59,011 --> 00:28:00,381 I could put it in a ponytail. 720 00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:02,179 Want to see? All: Yeah! 721 00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:03,951 No. 722 00:28:03,949 --> 00:28:05,719 Kohen: Whoopi Goldberg always thought of herself 723 00:28:05,717 --> 00:28:07,687 as an actress more so than a comedian. 724 00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:10,486 She was very much in the spirit of Lily Tomlin, 725 00:28:10,489 --> 00:28:12,589 more so than the stand‐ups of her era. 726 00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:14,261 And they said, like, "Are you a Valley girl?" 727 00:28:14,259 --> 00:28:15,629 And I said, "No, Im a surfer 728 00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:16,997 because before there was the mall, 729 00:28:16,995 --> 00:28:18,295 there was the ocean, okay?" 730 00:28:18,297 --> 00:28:19,827 I, like... 731 00:28:19,831 --> 00:28:21,471 Chupack: It was so much more than stand‐up. 732 00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:24,036 She was commenting on the world were living in 733 00:28:24,036 --> 00:28:25,496 in a really interesting way 734 00:28:25,504 --> 00:28:27,474 through these different characters. 735 00:28:27,472 --> 00:28:29,512 I passed this big dude walking around the circus 736 00:28:29,508 --> 00:28:30,908 with a picket sign, talking about, 737 00:28:30,909 --> 00:28:32,339 "Stop abortion." 738 00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:34,414 I said, "I have the answer to abortion." 739 00:28:34,413 --> 00:28:35,583 He said, "What is it?" 740 00:28:35,581 --> 00:28:37,951 I said, "Shoot your dick." 741 00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:39,250 [ Laughter ] 742 00:28:39,251 --> 00:28:40,791 Goldberg: I was always an actor, 743 00:28:40,786 --> 00:28:43,246 and one of the reasons I started doing the monologues 744 00:28:43,255 --> 00:28:45,215 was because I couldn get any work 745 00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:46,564 cause people sort of look at you 746 00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:48,758 and decide what you can do and what you can 747 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,630 or what they think you can do. 748 00:28:50,629 --> 00:28:51,999 [ Cheers and applause ] 749 00:28:51,997 --> 00:28:54,597 What does it take to become successful, 750 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,400 and how tough is it for you compared to men? 751 00:28:57,402 --> 00:29:00,612 I think its harder to be a man comic, actually. 752 00:29:00,606 --> 00:29:04,176 Yeah, cause theyre generally not funny or intelligent. 753 00:29:04,176 --> 00:29:05,436 [ Laughter ] 754 00:29:05,444 --> 00:29:06,954 [ High‐pitched voice ] "Roseanne, don you think 755 00:29:06,945 --> 00:29:11,545 we should talk about our sexual problems?" 756 00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:13,590 [ Normal voice ] Like Im gonna turn off "Wheel of Fortune" 757 00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:15,085 for that. 758 00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:16,217 [ Laughter ] 759 00:29:16,221 --> 00:29:19,121 Roseanne was the big 80s comic who came out. 760 00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:21,464 She was the kind of woman that when you talk to people, 761 00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:22,690 they remember Roseanne. 762 00:29:22,694 --> 00:29:24,434 They remember what her persona was. 763 00:29:24,429 --> 00:29:26,129 She had a clear point of view. 764 00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:28,071 I never get out of the house. I never go no place. 765 00:29:28,066 --> 00:29:29,666 I never have no fun ever, ever, ever, 766 00:29:29,668 --> 00:29:31,938 ever cause Im a housewife. 767 00:29:31,937 --> 00:29:33,067 I hate that word. 768 00:29:33,071 --> 00:29:34,611 I want to be called "domestic goddess." 769 00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:36,506 Its so much more descriptive. 770 00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:39,578 Roseanne Barr took the classic "housewife" stance 771 00:29:39,578 --> 00:29:41,208 and turned it on its head. 772 00:29:41,213 --> 00:29:42,453 They come up to me. 773 00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:44,947 They go, "God, Roseanne, youre not very feminine." 774 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:45,980 [ Light laughter ] 775 00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:47,224 They say that. 776 00:29:47,219 --> 00:29:49,089 Can you believe that they would say that to me? 777 00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:51,217 Can you even believe that? "Youre not very feminine." 778 00:29:51,223 --> 00:29:53,263 So, I say, "Well, suck my dick!" 779 00:29:53,258 --> 00:29:55,888 [ Laughter ] 780 00:29:55,894 --> 00:29:57,734 Leifer: She took off like a rocket. 781 00:29:57,729 --> 00:30:02,199 She really captured what most great stand‐ups do 782 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,270 that connect with the bigger, wide audience. 783 00:30:05,270 --> 00:30:07,110 She was authentic. 784 00:30:07,105 --> 00:30:08,405 Maher: Oh, please. If I came out ‐‐ 785 00:30:08,407 --> 00:30:10,207 Come on. Women have been the butt of male jokes 786 00:30:10,208 --> 00:30:12,778 for two million years, and weve always laughed. 787 00:30:12,778 --> 00:30:15,448 And now I come out and I make a few crummy little jokes 788 00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:17,677 about you and your penises and you can take it. 789 00:30:17,683 --> 00:30:18,753 [ Cheers and applause ] 790 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:20,050 Roseanne... 791 00:30:20,052 --> 00:30:21,252 [ Cheers and applause continue ] 792 00:30:29,895 --> 00:30:32,395 Listen to this. Youll have to. 793 00:30:32,397 --> 00:30:34,497 My grandmother ‐‐ [ Laughter ] 794 00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:37,899 ...she started walking five miles a day when she was 60. 795 00:30:37,903 --> 00:30:39,243 Shes 97 today. 796 00:30:39,237 --> 00:30:41,207 We don know where the hell she is. 797 00:30:41,206 --> 00:30:42,206 [ Laughter ] 798 00:30:42,207 --> 00:30:43,707 Griffin: In the 90s club heyday, 799 00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:45,679 the clubs were so crowded 800 00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:47,377 because everybody in the world thought, 801 00:30:47,379 --> 00:30:49,479 "Im gonna move to California or New York. 802 00:30:49,481 --> 00:30:51,581 Im gonna do three funny minutes 803 00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:54,393 and then get my own sitcom like Jerry Seinfeld." 804 00:30:54,386 --> 00:30:55,846 That was the downside of that era. 805 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,964 They really just didn really have room for me 806 00:30:57,956 --> 00:30:59,256 or the likes of me. 807 00:30:59,257 --> 00:31:02,187 Who could start off the sex category other than ‐‐ 808 00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:05,864 yes, you know it ‐‐ Miss Kathy Griffin?! 809 00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:08,604 Im gonna tell a story that I told once before ‐‐ 810 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,800 only once before. 811 00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:12,171 It is not the time I fucked the midget. 812 00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:15,170 [ Laughter ] It is ‐‐ Sorry. 813 00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:16,573 Thats another party. 814 00:31:16,575 --> 00:31:18,505 Sarah: These were people that didn have 815 00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:20,580 as much success in mainstream clubs 816 00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:24,349 because mainstream clubs had mainstream comedy. 817 00:31:24,349 --> 00:31:26,849 They didn necessarily go for weird. 818 00:31:26,852 --> 00:31:30,822 So they started their own rooms with their own crowds. 819 00:31:30,822 --> 00:31:32,492 Im not ‐‐ Im not telling the story 820 00:31:32,491 --> 00:31:34,661 for any kind of shock value or anything like that. 821 00:31:34,659 --> 00:31:35,929 Im just telling a story. 822 00:31:35,927 --> 00:31:38,597 The original stand‐up from the late 70s 823 00:31:38,597 --> 00:31:40,157 was all setup, punch line, setup, punch line. 824 00:31:40,165 --> 00:31:41,825 Thats all anybody was doing. 825 00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:43,273 And the alternative‐comedy scene 826 00:31:43,268 --> 00:31:46,268 suddenly was all this personal storytelling. 827 00:31:46,271 --> 00:31:48,011 Theres five kids in our family. Im the oldest. 828 00:31:48,006 --> 00:31:51,676 And my brother whos the fourth child got lymph cancer. 829 00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:55,246 [ Chuckles ] Hope for laughs. And, um... 830 00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:59,047 You could just be talking about what happened that day. 831 00:31:59,050 --> 00:32:01,750 It was like somebody coming up and reading their diary. 832 00:32:01,753 --> 00:32:02,793 Im sorry. 833 00:32:02,788 --> 00:32:04,188 I didn study theater for 12 years 834 00:32:04,189 --> 00:32:06,659 just so I could go, "Rambo, no!" 835 00:32:06,658 --> 00:32:07,658 [ Laughter ] 836 00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:09,289 We kind of free‐formed it 837 00:32:09,294 --> 00:32:11,234 and more of a stream of consciousness. 838 00:32:11,229 --> 00:32:14,169 And that really caught on with audiences 839 00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:17,366 and created its whole new wave of comedians 840 00:32:17,369 --> 00:32:19,239 and women comedians. 841 00:32:19,237 --> 00:32:21,307 This alternative‐comedy scene was happening 842 00:32:21,306 --> 00:32:25,576 alongside the rise of women at "Saturday Night Live." 843 00:32:25,577 --> 00:32:26,777 Backflip! Mary, Mary, stop it. 844 00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:27,778 Backflip! Stop it! 845 00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:30,979 Mary, stop it! Backflip! 846 00:32:30,982 --> 00:32:32,522 You had Molly Shannon. 847 00:32:32,517 --> 00:32:33,847 Simmer down, now! 848 00:32:33,852 --> 00:32:37,262 Kohen: And you had Cheri Oteri, Ana Gasteyer. 849 00:32:37,255 --> 00:32:39,515 I think we both assumed ‐‐ and I think wrongfully ‐‐ 850 00:32:39,524 --> 00:32:40,994 that a baker of your generation 851 00:32:40,992 --> 00:32:44,562 might tend towards a more dry or crusty muffin. 852 00:32:44,563 --> 00:32:46,703 And then Tina Fey was brought on as a writer. 853 00:32:46,698 --> 00:32:49,668 In the 25‐plus years of "Saturday Night Live," 854 00:32:49,668 --> 00:32:52,698 you are the first female head writer. 855 00:32:52,704 --> 00:32:54,844 I heard, "Oh, that place is a boys club. Its horrible. 856 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,140 Its horrible." And when I got there, 857 00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:58,341 my experience was that it was not that bad. 858 00:32:58,343 --> 00:33:00,553 I think Ive been very lucky to get places 859 00:33:00,545 --> 00:33:01,905 kind of as they change. 860 00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:03,213 I quit being head writer. 861 00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:04,645 We all sat in the room, and I go, 862 00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:06,549 "Clearly its Tina Fey who should succeed me," 863 00:33:06,551 --> 00:33:07,591 and everyone went, "Yup!" 864 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:09,816 We all knew Tina was the sharpest, 865 00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:11,661 kind of strongest writer coming up. 866 00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:14,186 Research is being conducted on the worlds first 867 00:33:14,192 --> 00:33:16,332 contraceptive patch for women. 868 00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:18,798 The patch is approximately three inches in diameter 869 00:33:18,797 --> 00:33:20,697 and reads, "Get off me." 870 00:33:20,699 --> 00:33:21,799 [ Laughter ] 871 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,470 Once she became head writer, 872 00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:26,568 she was in a position to advocate 873 00:33:26,571 --> 00:33:30,581 for the other women on the staff to kind of explain to men, 874 00:33:30,575 --> 00:33:32,035 you know, why something was funny. 875 00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:36,513 Announcer: Introducing Kotex Classic. 876 00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,645 This is the original. 877 00:33:38,650 --> 00:33:42,050 I love the belt. Its so complicated. 878 00:33:42,053 --> 00:33:45,523 Newman: I think women really have the market cornered on irony 879 00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:48,434 because were subject to so much bullshit. 880 00:33:48,426 --> 00:33:49,856 Maybe what bothers me the most 881 00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:52,031 is that people say that Hillary is a bitch. 882 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:53,800 And let me say something about that. 883 00:33:53,798 --> 00:33:56,368 Yeah, she is. Yeah. 884 00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:58,068 And so I am. And so is this one. 885 00:33:58,069 --> 00:33:59,099 Yeah. Deal with it. 886 00:33:59,104 --> 00:34:01,474 Yeah. You know what? 887 00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:03,273 Bitches get stuff done. 888 00:34:03,275 --> 00:34:04,535 And all of a sudden, 889 00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:07,213 badass women were the force of that show. 890 00:34:07,212 --> 00:34:08,482 Oh, my God! 891 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,280 What am I, the police or something? You know what I say? 892 00:34:11,283 --> 00:34:13,283 Smoke em if you got em. Smoke em if you got em. 893 00:34:13,285 --> 00:34:15,215 Do you love nice presents? 894 00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:17,520 Do you?! [ Screaming ] 895 00:34:17,522 --> 00:34:18,792 Smith: You look at "Saturday Night Live" 896 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:21,760 when I was a kid, the names you knew were, like, 897 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,600 Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Chevy Chase, John Belushi. 898 00:34:25,597 --> 00:34:26,797 You always knew the dudes names. 899 00:34:26,798 --> 00:34:28,498 And now when you talk about "SNL," 900 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:29,900 the names that pop up ‐‐ 901 00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:33,441 Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, Kristen Wiig, Leslie Jones... 902 00:34:33,438 --> 00:34:38,038 If you want to see Leslie Jones naked, just ask! 903 00:34:38,043 --> 00:34:39,443 ...and Kate McKinnon. 904 00:34:39,444 --> 00:34:42,754 The alien showed my mind the furnace of all creation, 905 00:34:42,747 --> 00:34:45,317 what we could call God. 906 00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:46,777 What? 907 00:34:46,785 --> 00:34:49,285 [ Laughter ] 908 00:34:49,287 --> 00:34:51,987 These fancy cats are seeing God. 909 00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:53,890 Meanwhile, Im starting phase two, 910 00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:58,432 which is me sitting on a stool while 40 gray aliens 911 00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:03,300 take turns gently batting my knockers around. 912 00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:04,871 McKay: And then it spread into movies. 913 00:35:04,869 --> 00:35:07,039 Suddenly the biggest comedy stars in the world 914 00:35:07,038 --> 00:35:08,108 are Melissa McCarthy. 915 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:09,866 Theyre, you know, Kristen Wiig. 916 00:35:09,874 --> 00:35:12,414 This is some classy shit here. 917 00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:13,440 [ Belches ] 918 00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:14,845 Jesus, Megan. 919 00:35:14,846 --> 00:35:16,846 Im s‐‐ I want to apologize. 920 00:35:16,848 --> 00:35:19,078 Im not even confident of which end that came out of. 921 00:35:19,084 --> 00:35:21,124 "Bridesmaids" came out, and it was like, 922 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,049 "This is gonna be the definitive answer 923 00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:24,824 as to why women are funny." 924 00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:26,293 Now, I had known women are funny for years 925 00:35:26,291 --> 00:35:28,391 cause I have a vagina, but... [ Gags ] 926 00:35:28,393 --> 00:35:30,133 Oh, my ‐‐ Okay. Oh, no. 927 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,228 ...they just hadn made it to the big screen 928 00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:34,330 in the way that they did with "Bridesmaids." 929 00:35:34,332 --> 00:35:36,072 Its happening. Its happening. 930 00:35:36,067 --> 00:35:38,867 Its happening. Its happening. 931 00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:41,740 Newman: It showed studios that you could make money with that. 932 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:44,880 And it opened that genre of women behaving badly. 933 00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:47,706 Officer Doughnuts, why don you go back into your squad car 934 00:35:47,712 --> 00:35:49,482 and go save a kitten from a tree? 935 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,451 Cause these pussies are doing fine. 936 00:35:51,449 --> 00:35:54,049 These women are so good, you cannot ignore them anymore. 937 00:35:54,052 --> 00:35:56,452 You want to stay with the "best youve ever had" guy. 938 00:35:56,454 --> 00:35:57,994 No. You don. Thats a creepy guy. 939 00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:00,689 "Best sex that youve ever had" guy is in jail. 940 00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:01,832 You know what I mean? 941 00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:03,056 Yeah. 942 00:36:03,061 --> 00:36:05,161 But Ive been thinking about maybe reaching out to him. 943 00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:07,703 [ Laughs ] Bloom: Theres a lot of creative freedom. 944 00:36:07,699 --> 00:36:09,599 Yes! Theres a lot embracing 945 00:36:09,601 --> 00:36:12,071 of diversity in stories that haven been told yet. 946 00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:14,240 So, I think its a great time to be a woman. 947 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,439 What are those? What ‐‐ What are those? 948 00:36:16,441 --> 00:36:17,811 Stop. Stop it. 949 00:36:17,809 --> 00:36:20,479 Theyre my Spanx. They hold everything together. 950 00:36:20,478 --> 00:36:23,008 Why? Whats gonna f‐‐ come fucking popping out? 951 00:36:31,756 --> 00:36:34,556 I was trying to describe your humor, and I was thinking, 952 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:37,659 "Well, irreverent isn really strong enough." 953 00:36:37,662 --> 00:36:40,262 So I came up with the word "demented." 954 00:36:40,265 --> 00:36:42,595 Ooh. I like "demented." 955 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,340 Because ‐‐ Yeah. I like "demented" 956 00:36:44,335 --> 00:36:47,765 because Ive been trying not to say "retarded" 957 00:36:47,772 --> 00:36:50,342 because I do feel like its not nice. 958 00:36:50,341 --> 00:36:51,781 "Demented." 959 00:36:51,776 --> 00:36:53,136 Yeah. Does that work for you? 960 00:36:53,144 --> 00:36:54,984 Yeah. "Demented," "ridiculous." 961 00:36:54,979 --> 00:36:57,479 I was licking jelly off of my boyfriends penis, 962 00:36:57,482 --> 00:37:00,522 and all of a sudden ‐‐ [ Laughter ] 963 00:37:00,518 --> 00:37:01,918 ...all of a sudden, Im thinking, 964 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,220 "Oh, my God, Im turning into my mother." 965 00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:07,022 You know? Its like... [ Laughter ] 966 00:37:07,025 --> 00:37:08,485 Kohen: When you think of comedy 967 00:37:08,493 --> 00:37:10,363 as being something that pushes boundaries 968 00:37:10,361 --> 00:37:13,861 and thats commenting on society, on a certain level, 969 00:37:13,865 --> 00:37:16,765 what does a white man have to say anymore? 970 00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:19,698 And men ‐‐ whew, you guys are catching hell. 971 00:37:19,704 --> 00:37:22,214 Youre probably not feeling any better, right? 972 00:37:22,207 --> 00:37:25,737 Cause every other commercial is for broke dick. 973 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:26,814 [ Laughter ] 974 00:37:26,811 --> 00:37:28,111 Apatow: If you look at the culture, 975 00:37:28,113 --> 00:37:30,053 whos changing the culture right now? 976 00:37:30,048 --> 00:37:31,978 And I don know if theres a male equivalent 977 00:37:31,983 --> 00:37:34,823 to what a lot of hilarious, thoughtful women 978 00:37:34,819 --> 00:37:37,149 are doing right now. 979 00:37:37,155 --> 00:37:38,755 No, no. Shh. Hush. Hush. Hush. 980 00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:40,457 Its been quite a ‐‐ The point is that Im doing fantastic. 981 00:37:40,458 --> 00:37:42,688 Shes doing great. Hes a 6. 982 00:37:42,694 --> 00:37:45,064 Oh, totally a 6. Yum. 983 00:37:45,063 --> 00:37:47,573 Hes a 10. I mean, look at him. 984 00:37:47,565 --> 00:37:49,625 I hope hes like seven inches, max. 985 00:37:49,634 --> 00:37:51,244 Inches? I thought we were rating them on hotness. 986 00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:52,966 I thought we were rating them on dick size. 987 00:37:52,971 --> 00:37:55,041 Why would we be rating them on dick size? 988 00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,169 Ladies, your staring is making 989 00:37:57,175 --> 00:37:59,085 some of the guys feel uncomfortable. 990 00:38:04,582 --> 00:38:05,582 Seven. Seven. 991 00:38:05,583 --> 00:38:07,023 I think its really fair to say 992 00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:09,888 that its never been better for women in comedy, absolutely. 993 00:38:09,888 --> 00:38:13,218 Bamford: It has gotten a lot better and could get even... 994 00:38:13,224 --> 00:38:15,564 more better? Mo better? 995 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,960 I think feminism is the worst thing 996 00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:20,802 that ever happened to women. 997 00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:24,469 Our job used to be no job. 998 00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:25,739 [ Laughter ] 999 00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:28,167 Then all these women had to show off and be like, 1000 00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:31,183 "We can do it. We can do anything." 1001 00:38:31,176 --> 00:38:33,476 Bitch, shut up! 1002 00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:36,378 Everywhere I look, I see amazing women doing comedy, 1003 00:38:36,381 --> 00:38:37,751 and there are more venues to do comedy 1004 00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:39,749 than there have ever been. 1005 00:38:39,751 --> 00:38:41,521 Newman: Theyre afforded all these platforms. 1006 00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:42,949 They can make their own stuff. 1007 00:38:42,954 --> 00:38:44,464 They don have to answer to anybody, 1008 00:38:44,455 --> 00:38:46,885 so their content can be just what they want it to be. 1009 00:38:46,891 --> 00:38:48,091 Mwah! 1010 00:38:48,092 --> 00:38:49,592 ♪ This is where our poop comes out ♪ 1011 00:38:49,594 --> 00:38:51,404 ♪ This is what you think is hot? ♪ 1012 00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:52,796 ♪ This is what you think is hot? ♪ 1013 00:38:52,797 --> 00:38:54,167 Is it someones birthday or... 1014 00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:56,665 Were celebrating Julias last fuckable day. 1015 00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,968 Yes. Salud. Woman: Whoo! 1016 00:38:58,970 --> 00:39:00,570 Griffin: I love watching these young women 1017 00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:02,312 be unabashedly feministic. 1018 00:39:02,307 --> 00:39:04,737 Its great that they can be loud and proud about these issues. 1019 00:39:04,742 --> 00:39:06,142 Also, theyre real issues. 1020 00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:08,954 Wong: The best comedies and the best television now 1021 00:39:08,947 --> 00:39:12,047 is all being created and show‐run by women. 1022 00:39:12,050 --> 00:39:14,350 I have my own sho‐‐ 1023 00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:16,122 Its about time. 1024 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,150 Ugh. 1025 00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:19,885 Man: I have mild, extra mild. 1026 00:39:19,891 --> 00:39:22,191 I have no idea what that one is. 1027 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:26,063 And I hear really good things about that English banger. 1028 00:39:26,064 --> 00:39:28,034 Actually, you know what? 1029 00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:30,772 I think Im kind of done with sausages. 1030 00:39:30,768 --> 00:39:32,638 Late night is one of the last places 1031 00:39:32,637 --> 00:39:34,867 where it still feels very much a mens club. 1032 00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:36,313 So its great to have Samantha Bee. 1033 00:39:36,307 --> 00:39:38,707 Is that okay for you, that he is representing the country 1034 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:40,210 in an old‐timey racist way? 1035 00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:42,611 If it is a negative, I would say its like a minor negative. 1036 00:39:42,614 --> 00:39:44,624 Im so confused by you. 1037 00:39:44,616 --> 00:39:47,016 Bee: Watching someone choke down a piece of their soul 1038 00:39:47,018 --> 00:39:49,348 just to belong broke my fact checker. 1039 00:39:49,354 --> 00:39:50,864 You can do this. 1040 00:39:50,855 --> 00:39:54,755 Boosler: Samantha Bee is the best political show on television. 1041 00:39:54,759 --> 00:39:57,499 I don think anybody cuts to the core like she does. 1042 00:39:57,495 --> 00:40:00,195 But to see her do it and shove it down their throats 1043 00:40:00,198 --> 00:40:02,298 cause they have to take it from a "girl." 1044 00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:03,470 Shes brilliant. 1045 00:40:03,468 --> 00:40:05,138 We do stories on the show 1046 00:40:05,136 --> 00:40:06,936 that we feel passionately about in the moment, 1047 00:40:06,938 --> 00:40:08,468 and we just see the world differently. 1048 00:40:08,473 --> 00:40:10,573 Anybody have any questions? Oh, yes. 1049 00:40:10,575 --> 00:40:12,975 Is it hard breaking into the boys club? 1050 00:40:12,977 --> 00:40:14,077 Okay ‐‐ 1051 00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:15,648 Whats it like being a woman in late night? 1052 00:40:15,647 --> 00:40:17,347 How can I watch your show as a man? 1053 00:40:17,348 --> 00:40:19,218 Whats it like to be a female woman? 1054 00:40:19,217 --> 00:40:21,147 [ Indistinct shouting ] 1055 00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:24,162 I think were at our greatest point 1056 00:40:24,155 --> 00:40:26,085 for women in comedy, I would guess, 1057 00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,290 but we still have a very long way to go. 1058 00:40:28,293 --> 00:40:29,433 Oh. 1059 00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,457 Beatts: The fact that people have to 1060 00:40:31,462 --> 00:40:33,832 keep talking about women in comedy indicates 1061 00:40:33,831 --> 00:40:35,901 that its not equal. 1062 00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:38,370 I guess its a normal question. Is it harder for female comics? 1063 00:40:38,369 --> 00:40:40,299 Is it harder? Its not. 1064 00:40:40,305 --> 00:40:41,535 Like, they think we just get up here 1065 00:40:41,539 --> 00:40:43,439 and just bleed all over the stage. 1066 00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:45,641 Im just, "Ohh, my ovaries. 1067 00:40:45,643 --> 00:40:47,413 How do I keep them in my body?" 1068 00:40:47,412 --> 00:40:48,782 Uh... 1069 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,780 People will always want to talk about women in comedy. 1070 00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:53,452 I mean, you guys are doing a documentary, 1071 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,151 and youre doing a segment on women in comedy. 1072 00:40:56,154 --> 00:40:59,464 The fact that its 2016 and "women in comedy" 1073 00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:02,157 is still a topic is so embarrassing. 1074 00:41:03,728 --> 00:41:06,398 Im sorry. That just drives me fucking crazy. 1075 00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:09,867 Its a different kind of patriarchal society 1076 00:41:09,867 --> 00:41:12,697 in the 50s as opposed to sexism now. 1077 00:41:12,704 --> 00:41:14,144 They didn know any different then. 1078 00:41:14,138 --> 00:41:15,508 But youre so pretty, see? 1079 00:41:15,506 --> 00:41:16,836 Oh, is that what it is? Yep. 1080 00:41:16,841 --> 00:41:18,311 And thats the way it was. 1081 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:20,709 Now they know better, and they want to stop it. 1082 00:41:20,712 --> 00:41:23,482 Now when you hear men say women aren funny, 1083 00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:25,881 I just think, "Oh, you sad old man. 1084 00:41:25,883 --> 00:41:28,853 Get on ‐‐ Get on your little glacier and just die." 1085 00:41:28,853 --> 00:41:31,823 Woman: Do you think most women sell themselves short? 1086 00:41:31,823 --> 00:41:33,063 Yes. 1087 00:41:33,057 --> 00:41:35,227 Most women have been told to sell themselves short. 1088 00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:36,986 See, I think women are brighter than men. 1089 00:41:36,995 --> 00:41:39,355 I think women are more sensitive than men. 1090 00:41:39,364 --> 00:41:41,804 And I think women are stronger than me. 1091 00:41:41,799 --> 00:41:43,669 Plus, we have that extra little layer of fat, 1092 00:41:43,668 --> 00:41:46,738 so if we ever fall in the water, we live longer. 1093 00:41:46,738 --> 00:41:48,038 [ Both laugh ] 1094 00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:51,339 [ Southern accent ] Shes one of them girl comics. 1095 00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:53,542 Them ‐‐ Them ain that funny. They got a ‐‐ 1096 00:41:53,544 --> 00:41:56,784 They got an extra gland down in their hoo‐hah, 1097 00:41:56,781 --> 00:41:58,721 and it filters the jokes through. 1098 00:41:58,716 --> 00:42:01,946 It ain funny. I read it in the science book. 1099 00:42:04,055 --> 00:42:05,755 Its science. You can look it up. 1100 00:42:05,757 --> 00:42:08,657 There was a whole episode on "Planet Earth" 1101 00:42:08,659 --> 00:42:13,259 they did about women and their anti‐joke "vaginers." 1102 00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:16,134 It was in HD, too. It was horrifying. 83063

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