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Remember when comedy meant
males doing jokes about females,
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like wives and mothers‐in‐law?
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Well, the tables have turned.
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[ Spits ]
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Griffin: The idea that chicks
aren funny ‐‐
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I hate to tell you,
its still very much a thing.
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Sarah: There are some people
that can get their heads
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around what they don know.
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Cho: I said I wanted
to be a comedian.
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She said, [Korean accent]
"Or maybe its better if
you just die."
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I think they thought of women
as a different species.
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Rivers: Very few ladies
are capable of being a comedian,
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and so everybody sits right up.
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Heres somebody
that thinks she can do it.
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Apatow:
This is a great argument
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that women are doing
much better work than men.
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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Youre welcome.
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♪
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Whats the hardest part
about being a female comedian?
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What is it?
Whats the hardest part?
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Like, what would you guess?
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Woman: Um...
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Well, its the rape.
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[ Laughter ]
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Um...
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I have a deep camaraderie
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with tough, hard‐core,
funny‐ass female comedians
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because its been a long road
for all of us.
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Susskind:
What would make a woman
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turn from some decent thing
like housewifing
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or cashiering
in a five‐and‐dime store
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or dental hygiene
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and turn her to comedy
as a career?
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Its definitely easier
for us now
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cause weve pushed our way in,
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but back then, there was
one of them, two of them.
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[ Laughs ]
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People try to analyze it.
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"Are women not funny?"
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Its like, "No, theyre
oppressed, you dumb idiot."
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I really stopped
a great career there.
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Oh,
and Id do it again.
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Id much rather be your wife
than amount to anything.
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[ Laughter ]
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Cryer: Of course, there have
always been funny women.
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Its just a matter
or whether the society
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that they were in was willing
to let them be funny.
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We have with us this evening
an international star,
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Miss Fanny Brice.
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[ Applause ]
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It wasn until the late 1800s
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and the early 20th century
that women
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started becoming really famous
as comedic performers.
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Kohen: A lot of them
were comediennes ‐‐
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a woman who gets up onstage,
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is funny, but she sings
and she dances.
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Hey, wait a minute.
The music stopped.
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Well,
I didn hear it.
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Oh,
she didn hear it.
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Kohen:
Shes more of an entertainer
than just the straight comic.
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That was kind of
what was allowed.
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It was not really accepted
for a woman to stand onstage
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and tell jokes
and give their opinion
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to a bunch of men
until Jean Carroll.
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Most fellas, they have
a tough day at the racetrack ‐‐
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they get nasty, but not my Jack.
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Hes so sweet.
Nothing bothers him.
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He drinks. And, of course...
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[ Laughter ]
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Well, he doesn drink
cause he likes it.
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He drinks to steady his nerves.
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The other night, they got so
steady, he couldn move at all.
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[ Laughter ]
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Nesteroff: Jean Carroll
was in a comedy team
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with a guy named Buddy Howe,
who she ended up marrying,
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and then Buddy Howe
went off to war.
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So Jean Carroll
rewrote their act
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so that she could do it
by herself
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and became a solo stand‐up.
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This guy ate like
he was going to the chair.
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I mean, as for manners,
you know?
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Ive seen people eat
with their hands before,
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but not soup. And thats ‐‐
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[ Laughter ]
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Nesteroff:
She got rave reviews.
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She was playing the same venues
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as all the biggest comedians
of the late 1940s
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and getting bigger laughs
than the guys.
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[ Applause ]
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Welcome to
"You Bet Your Life."
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Say the secret words
and divide an extra $100.
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Its a common word,
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something you always
have with you.
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Phyllis Diller,
lets start with you.
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Now, Phyllis,
what do you do
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to break up
the monotony of housekeeping
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and taking care
of five small gorillas?
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[ Chuckles ]
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Well, Im really not
a housewife anymore.
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Im an entertainer.
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Phyllis Diller started comedy
at 37 years old with five kids.
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She was cutting‐edge
because she was doing something
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that no other woman
had done before.
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I love to go to the doctor!
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Ooh!
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Where else would a man
look at me and say,
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"Take off your clothes"?
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[ Laughter ]
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In those days, so much of comedy
was just straight‐up sexist.
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"My wife is a battle axe."
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Phyllis Diller
switched it around.
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Now it was about
her horrible husband.
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Fang ‐‐ Thats my husband.
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He went to the dentist
the other day.
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The dentist told him
hes got the worst set of tooth
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he ever saw in his life.
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[ Laughter ]
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Nesteroff: For a woman to go
onstage and complain about that,
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it was emancipation, in a way.
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You sure
youre a marriage counselor?
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Of course.
Don I have a sympathetic face?
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Well, your face
has my sympathy.
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The self‐deprecating woman
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was very popular
in the comedy world.
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Back from the beauty shop,
where shes just had her head
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tarred and feathered,
here is Miss Phyllis Diller.
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[ Applause ]
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Griffin:
I think when it came to women
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doing comedy,
certainly stand‐up,
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you had to dress
in a way that was crazy.
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You had to work
within the confines
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of what guys
would accept you doing.
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What in the world?
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[ Laughter ]
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Is that a riot?
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I tucked that in
in the dressing room,
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and it fell out again.
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[ Laughter ]
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Kohen: Youre basically saying,
"Im coming up onstage.
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Don look at me as a woman.
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Look at me as, like,
a funny person."
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Just looking at
the two outfits here ‐‐
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Moms and Woodys.
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I would like
to wear Moms.
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And Id like
to wear yours.
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[ Laughter ]
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Moms Mabley, who was a great
comedienne of the 30s and 40s,
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50s, didn become known
by white audiences
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until the 60s,
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when there were
more black faces on TV.
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Ive been accused
of liking young men.
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[ Light laughter ]
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And Im guilty.
[ Laughter ]
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Kohen:
She was very sexual,
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and she was also
very blunt and raunchy.
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Moms Mabley as an old woman
was not considered a threat,
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so she could get away with it.
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Frost: When did you get married,
then, Moms?
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I was young,
son.
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[ Laughter ]
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And I married a man ‐‐
98.
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He didn live
but five days.
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[ Laughter ]
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It took
three undertakers a week
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to get the smile
off his face.
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[ Laughter ]
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Kohen:
She was more than just,
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you know,
another woman in comedy.
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She was much more of a pioneer.
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[ Applause ]
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Rivers:
Its very hard for a woman
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who has been brought up
to be sweet and clingy
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to stand up in front of
2,500 people and say,
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"Okay, now, listen to me."
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Its a tremendous ‐‐
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You really have
a tremendous sense of power
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when youre standing up
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and commanding them
to listen to you.
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I wouldn be single again
for anything in the world
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cause I was the last girl
in Larchmont, New York, to go,
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and I was desperate.
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When I say ‐‐ I was desperate.
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My parents
had a big sign saying,
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"Last girl before the Thruway."
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I mean,
thats how desperate I was.
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Joan was the real deal.
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Shes, like, a badass.
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She grew up in the gritty
New York City scene,
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and she was breaking ground
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by just talking about her life
honestly.
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This is an era where
women just didn do that.
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A girl ‐‐ Youre 30 years old,
youre not married ‐‐
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Youre an old maid.
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A man ‐‐ Hes 90 years old, hes
not married ‐‐ Hes a catch.
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Its a whole different thing.
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She would push
the boundaries constantly.
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The edict was, "If its making
people laugh, then its okay."
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I think you can tell
what kind of a lover
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a man is gonna be
from the way he tinkles.
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Everage:
Who said that?
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If a man in a room
that is fully lit
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cannot hit a hole
this big around...
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[ Laughter ]
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Im gonna ponder
on that one.
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[ Laughter ]
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Woman:
There are some people
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who say that some of the things
that you do or say are vulgar.
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Does that ‐‐
Life is vulgar.
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Life is outrageous.
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I find whats made my comedy
work as much as its worked
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is I say things that
everybody else has thought
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and not
really verbalized.
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Rivers: When you die,
whatever you got out of him,
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you have buried on you,
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and the next bitch wants it,
make her dig for it.
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Oh, sure!
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Sarah: Joan Rivers was,
at no point in her career,
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not funny because
she changed with the times.
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I mean, she was an evolving,
writing‐every‐day,
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real‐life comedian.
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Carson: Don you think men
really like intelligence more
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when it comes
right down to it?
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Oh, please, are we gonna
go back to that?
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Yeah, sure.
Are you kidding me?
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Its a brain, you know,
a caring person.
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No man
has ever put his hand
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up a womans dress
looking for a library card.
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I am sorry.
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[ Laughter and applause ]
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Ill tell you
its such a hat show, Fred.
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I think Ill get
another station.
Oh.
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As our first offering
this evening, we ‐‐ Stop that!
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Go back
and sit down!
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[ Laughter ]
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Leifer:
When I was growing up,
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I was an "I Love Lucy" freak,
could lip‐sync it.
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I love
that I can turn on something
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thats over 60 years old now
and go,
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"You can beat these jokes.
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And you can beat
these characters."
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♪ I took the wind ♪
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♪ Wind ♪
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♪ Ooooh ♪
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[ Laughter ]
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McKay:
This is a woman in a time
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where comedy was
completely dominated by men.
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Not only does this show
become the comedy show,
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they then create
the modern model
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for all the sitcoms to follow.
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Shes an absolute titan
of comedy.
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White: To have a woman
be not only a comedian
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but a solid business person,
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she broke ground
for generations of us.
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[ Laughter ]
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Burnett: You don see
too many beautiful women
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be clowns like that,
258
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and she was, indeed,
a beautiful woman.
259
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You know, she was
a movie star at MGM,
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and nobody ever knew
she could be funny.
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[ Laughter ]
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Ball: Mugging and
doing pratfalls and doing things
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that maybe nice little girls
264
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weren supposed to do
at one time.
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I have never thought of it
as a hindrance,
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as something
that we shouldn do.
267
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We just go ahead and do them.
We don think how we look.
268
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Is it easy, for instance, say,
to be sexy and funny
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at the same time?
Oh, yes.
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Very easy.
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[ Laughter ]
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It may be easy for you,
Carol.
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[ Laughter ]
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Carol Burnett is the single
most talented woman,
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or performer, ever.
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She could do everything.
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Nesteroff: She started on
the "Garry Moore Show"
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and became a big star.
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What have I done?!
280
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People forget just how much
she was a part of the culture
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at one point in time.
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Burnett: I did not think
that I would want to ever ‐‐
283
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could ever host a variety show.
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Welcome to our first show
that were doing.
285
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Im real excited
and very, very happy
286
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that youre all with us tonight.
287
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Looks like we got
a nice, full group.
288
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Could you bump up
the lights so I can see ‐‐
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Ooh! Gorgeous!
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They had an image of a fella
291
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in a tuxedo coming out
and doing a monologue,
292
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and, "How will a woman...?"
293
00:11:52,345 --> 00:11:54,875
You know, "Will they
take a woman doing this?"
294
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And we said, "Well,
I hope theyll take me
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at least for 13 weeks."
296
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And it worked.
297
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It worked for 11 years.
298
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I never thought
it would go that long.
299
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I knew I wanted
to do musical, comedy.
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I wanted guest stars.
301
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Excu‐u‐u‐se me!
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I wanted to do sketches.
303
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I wanted a rep company
the way Sid Caesar had one.
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[ Laughter ]
305
00:12:19,505 --> 00:12:21,935
Curtain, you fools!
Curtain!
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[ Laughter ]
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[ Applause ]
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Parent:
There were 10 variety shows on
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at the same time
that Carol Burnett was on,
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and there were approximately
10 comedy writers on each show.
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And I was the only woman
out of all of them.
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Kohen: The funny thing about
female writers in television
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was that in the beginning,
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I would not say
they were very welcomed,
315
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although there were certainly
exceptions.
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Treva: I interviewed
for the "Carson Show."
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And I called my agent.
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And I said,
"I think it went really well."
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And he said, "Im sorry, honey,
but they just called and said
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they would not feel comfortable
with a woman in the room."
321
00:13:01,214 --> 00:13:02,754
Being a comedy writer
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is not the most
macho profession,
323
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so I think there was
a certain defensiveness
324
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and overcompensation.
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[ Laughs ]
326
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I like that inside track
of getting to hear
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how men talk
if women weren around
328
00:13:15,561 --> 00:13:17,061
cause it was almost like
you weren around.
329
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It was filthy.
330
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The language was disgusting.
331
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I loved it.
332
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Youll have such a time,
such fun, such ‐‐
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Oh, youll ‐‐
I have to warn you, though.
334
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Theres a street
down there in Rome
335
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where it just
isn safe for a woman.
336
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Where?! Where?! Where?!
337
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[ Laughter ]
338
00:13:36,849 --> 00:13:38,919
Kohen: When you get to
"Your Show of Shows,"
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you know, thats a very famous
writers room,
340
00:13:41,521 --> 00:13:43,991
and you had two women
who worked at separate times.
341
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The first was Lucille Callen,
342
00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:47,185
and the second
was Selma Diamond.
343
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Reiner: It was always right
to have the womans viewpoint.
344
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And who better than women
to say,
345
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"Women will laugh at that"?
346
00:13:54,033 --> 00:13:55,333
And so when I put together
347
00:13:55,335 --> 00:13:56,965
the characters
for the "Van Dyke Show,"
348
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I said, "We need
the womans viewpoint."
349
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And when I told my agent,
350
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he immediately said,
"Rose Marie."
351
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Its a beautiful
piece of writing.
352
00:14:04,477 --> 00:14:06,507
It really is,
but you know Alan.
353
00:14:06,512 --> 00:14:08,282
If he doesn get a laugh
every 10 seconds,
354
00:14:08,281 --> 00:14:10,781
he calls the cops
and has the audience arrested.
355
00:14:10,783 --> 00:14:11,953
[ Laughter ]
356
00:14:11,951 --> 00:14:13,491
Chupack: Rose Marie on
the "Dick Van Dyke Show"
357
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was great for women
358
00:14:14,821 --> 00:14:16,861
who might aspire to
being in the writers room
359
00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,656
because that was
the first glimpse we got
360
00:14:18,658 --> 00:14:20,158
maybe that that was possible.
361
00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:23,699
Kohen: Its not like there were
plenty of career women on TV.
362
00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:25,756
Women were mainly housewives
in the sitcoms,
363
00:14:25,765 --> 00:14:27,065
or they were secretaries
and teachers.
364
00:14:27,066 --> 00:14:28,366
They weren writers.
365
00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:30,868
You mean to say that youd
give up your job for us?
366
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:32,710
Yeah.
Compared to you,
Im a rat.
367
00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:34,705
Compared to a rat,
youre a rat.
368
00:14:34,707 --> 00:14:35,707
[ Laughter ]
369
00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:38,238
My mother
didn want me to be funny
370
00:14:38,244 --> 00:14:40,684
because how was I
gonna get married
371
00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,720
and be funny at the same time?
372
00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:44,715
But here was Rose Marie.
373
00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:47,587
She was blonde
and pretty and funny,
374
00:14:47,587 --> 00:14:50,617
and I kind of liked that idea.
375
00:14:50,623 --> 00:14:52,493
No, uh, don ‐‐
don bother to send it, Mom.
376
00:14:52,492 --> 00:14:54,432
I don think Im going
to Mexico, after all.
377
00:14:54,427 --> 00:14:55,427
[ Telephone rings ]
378
00:14:55,428 --> 00:14:57,898
Um, hang on there,
Mom, will you?
379
00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,527
Newsroom.
Hello, Mary?
380
00:14:59,532 --> 00:15:00,802
[ Laughter ]
381
00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,900
The "Mary Tyler Moore Show"
changed everything.
382
00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:06,943
They brought a lot of women
into the business.
383
00:15:06,939 --> 00:15:08,839
Here we go.
Ready? Action.
384
00:15:08,841 --> 00:15:10,581
Kohen: They wanted to make
a truthful story
385
00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:12,476
about a single woman
in her 30s,
386
00:15:12,478 --> 00:15:15,248
and I think that Jim Brooks
and Alan Burns realized
387
00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:17,148
that if we want to have
the right details,
388
00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:19,690
we have to ask women
what the stories are here.
389
00:15:19,685 --> 00:15:22,345
You look different.
I like it.
390
00:15:22,355 --> 00:15:23,515
Well...
391
00:15:23,523 --> 00:15:24,593
Yeah.
392
00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:25,960
I like it
back here, too.
393
00:15:25,958 --> 00:15:27,788
[ Laughter ]
394
00:15:27,794 --> 00:15:29,964
I have a feeling
hes gonna kick my tires.
395
00:15:29,962 --> 00:15:31,302
[ Laughter ]
396
00:15:31,297 --> 00:15:34,697
Women are so important
in the bigger world of comedy
397
00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:36,900
because our experience
is different,
398
00:15:36,903 --> 00:15:40,613
and theres that much more
to mine for humor.
399
00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:42,466
I don know
what you two are laughing at,
400
00:15:42,475 --> 00:15:44,335
but Ill take a chance
its dirty.
401
00:15:44,343 --> 00:15:45,383
[ Laughs ]
402
00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:47,108
Betty White
on "Mary Tyler Moore"
403
00:15:47,113 --> 00:15:49,883
is one of my favorite characters
of all time.
404
00:15:49,882 --> 00:15:51,222
I mean, what a viper.
405
00:15:51,217 --> 00:15:53,947
Wherever did you find
a party hat made of skin?
406
00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,193
[ Laughter ]
407
00:15:55,188 --> 00:15:57,288
White: Sue Ann Nivens
was sort of fun to play
408
00:15:57,290 --> 00:16:01,630
because something that Betty
might be shy about doing,
409
00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:03,457
she would do in a heartbeat.
410
00:16:03,463 --> 00:16:07,303
Tell me one good thing
about me ‐‐ Anything at all.
411
00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,640
Youre attractive.
Very attractive.
412
00:16:09,635 --> 00:16:12,195
Sexy, provocative.
413
00:16:12,205 --> 00:16:16,005
A tawny, sensual beast.
414
00:16:16,008 --> 00:16:17,778
Yes, a beast.
415
00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:19,447
[ Laughter ]
416
00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:21,445
Treva: I think it was important
to all of us
417
00:16:21,447 --> 00:16:23,547
to try to reflect
418
00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:26,189
what was happening with women
during that time.
419
00:16:26,185 --> 00:16:28,585
Things were changing so quickly,
420
00:16:28,588 --> 00:16:30,358
and we were
right in the middle of it.
421
00:16:30,356 --> 00:16:34,426
It was an explosive time
with situation comedy,
422
00:16:34,427 --> 00:16:38,527
and I think many more women
started working at that point.
423
00:16:38,531 --> 00:16:41,171
Did you find it fun to be
the only girl writer around?
424
00:16:41,167 --> 00:16:42,527
With some men.
425
00:16:42,535 --> 00:16:45,395
Some men are secure enough
to accept it.
426
00:16:45,404 --> 00:16:47,874
A lot of them
gave me a lot of trouble,
427
00:16:47,874 --> 00:16:50,444
and theyre running
candy stores in Brooklyn.
428
00:16:50,443 --> 00:16:51,443
[ Laughter ]
429
00:16:51,444 --> 00:16:52,584
No, no,
thats true.
430
00:16:52,578 --> 00:16:55,048
Insecure people
don get anyplace.
431
00:16:55,047 --> 00:16:56,547
Youve got
to face it.
432
00:16:56,549 --> 00:16:59,489
Women are here
to stay.
433
00:16:59,485 --> 00:17:04,685
[ Cheers and applause ]
434
00:17:10,329 --> 00:17:13,369
Welcome to Long Dust.
Can I help you?
435
00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:16,596
[ Crying ] Yes.
I...I read your ad.
436
00:17:16,602 --> 00:17:19,712
I‐Id like to know
about the $65 funeral.
437
00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:20,905
I see.
438
00:17:20,907 --> 00:17:22,777
[ Laughter ]
439
00:17:22,775 --> 00:17:25,535
Was that
for yourself?
440
00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:27,075
[ Laughter ]
441
00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:29,779
Mike Nichols and Elaine May
met in Chicago
442
00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:31,522
at the birth of improv.
443
00:17:31,517 --> 00:17:32,947
Burnett:
They didn write jokes.
444
00:17:32,952 --> 00:17:34,652
They wrote situations
445
00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:37,064
that were just
hysterically funny,
446
00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:38,986
but that you could relate to.
447
00:17:38,991 --> 00:17:41,091
Would you be interested
in some extras
448
00:17:41,093 --> 00:17:42,903
for the loved one?
449
00:17:42,895 --> 00:17:45,195
What kind of extras?
450
00:17:45,197 --> 00:17:47,727
Well,
how about a coffin?
451
00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:51,673
[ Laughter ]
452
00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:55,241
My life changed
the day my parents took me
453
00:17:55,241 --> 00:17:57,811
to see Nichols and May
on Broadway.
454
00:17:57,810 --> 00:18:02,050
Before that, all I saw
were comedians talking about
455
00:18:02,048 --> 00:18:03,418
how bad their wives were
456
00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:05,576
or how bad
their mother‐in‐laws were.
457
00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:07,215
Take my wife, please.
458
00:18:07,219 --> 00:18:10,259
And then all of a sudden,
the sky opened up,
459
00:18:10,256 --> 00:18:12,056
and there were Nichols and May.
460
00:18:12,058 --> 00:18:15,628
And I thought to myself,
"Now thats funny."
461
00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:18,458
Well, tell me, how do you
put your sketches together now?
462
00:18:18,464 --> 00:18:20,334
Do you outline them,
463
00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:22,673
or are they fairly
well written out?
464
00:18:22,668 --> 00:18:26,408
Well, we don ever
write anything down.
465
00:18:26,405 --> 00:18:27,905
And we don ever
outline them.
466
00:18:27,907 --> 00:18:29,707
Its a terrifying process.
467
00:18:29,709 --> 00:18:31,309
What kind of
an excuse is that?
468
00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:32,710
Well, its ‐‐
What do you mean?!
Well, I mean,
469
00:18:32,712 --> 00:18:36,322
all the other scientists
have mothers, Im sure.
470
00:18:36,315 --> 00:18:39,515
And Im sure that they all
find time after breakfast
471
00:18:39,518 --> 00:18:42,148
or before their count‐off
to pick up a phone
472
00:18:42,154 --> 00:18:44,294
and call their mother!
473
00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:46,660
Kohen: Elaine May was always
the writer of the two.
474
00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:49,059
I don think shes given enough
credit for being kind of
475
00:18:49,061 --> 00:18:52,401
one of these foundational people
of improv.
476
00:18:52,398 --> 00:18:53,628
Nesteroff:
She was smart. She was witty.
477
00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:54,773
She was sexy.
478
00:18:54,767 --> 00:18:57,197
She was everything
that female comedians
479
00:18:57,203 --> 00:19:00,073
up to that point
weren allowed to be.
480
00:19:00,072 --> 00:19:02,342
Well, thank you
very much, Jack.
481
00:19:02,341 --> 00:19:03,481
Thats okay.
482
00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:04,676
[ Laughs ]
483
00:19:04,677 --> 00:19:07,007
Vardalos: And thats when
I realized its possible.
484
00:19:07,013 --> 00:19:10,353
You have to write to the point
where you get respect
485
00:19:10,349 --> 00:19:12,819
cause nobodys gonna hand it
to you as a female.
486
00:19:12,818 --> 00:19:14,188
Come on, Lily.
Lily Tomlin.
487
00:19:14,186 --> 00:19:15,316
What are you gonna do?
488
00:19:15,321 --> 00:19:17,821
Im gonna do
a lady tonight
489
00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:20,333
whos an employee
of one of Americas
490
00:19:20,326 --> 00:19:22,186
most beloved institutions.
491
00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:23,504
Phoenicia?
492
00:19:23,496 --> 00:19:25,456
Phoenicia, this is Ernestine.
493
00:19:25,464 --> 00:19:29,334
I want you to send out a service
check on all the circuits at ‐‐
494
00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:33,165
at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
495
00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:35,672
Well, because, honey,
its almost impossible
496
00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:38,475
to get through to that man.
497
00:19:38,477 --> 00:19:40,047
[ Laughter ]
498
00:19:40,046 --> 00:19:41,676
[ Laughs ]
499
00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:43,121
Nesteroff: In the 60s,
500
00:19:43,115 --> 00:19:46,545
"Laugh‐In" was one of
the hottest programs on TV.
501
00:19:46,552 --> 00:19:49,792
And all these famous characters
we associate with Lily Tomlin
502
00:19:49,789 --> 00:19:53,429
became famous then
and turned her into a huge star.
503
00:19:53,426 --> 00:19:55,086
And thats the truth. Pbht!
504
00:19:55,094 --> 00:19:56,604
Markoe:
She was hip.
505
00:19:56,595 --> 00:20:00,025
She was not doing material
about being a frustrated wife.
506
00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:01,532
She was doing
character material,
507
00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:04,204
and it was really new
and different and brilliant.
508
00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:07,013
Mama said
you went to college.
509
00:20:07,006 --> 00:20:08,306
Mama said that?
510
00:20:08,307 --> 00:20:10,337
Im not going to college
when I grow up.
511
00:20:10,342 --> 00:20:11,942
No. No.
Cause I seen pictures
512
00:20:11,944 --> 00:20:14,254
where they shoot you
in college.
513
00:20:14,246 --> 00:20:15,246
[ Laughter ]
514
00:20:15,247 --> 00:20:17,347
[ Applause ]
515
00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:19,119
Nesteroff:
Her characters were no longer
516
00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:21,548
just innocuous,
wacky, and weird.
517
00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:23,294
They started
to become characters
518
00:20:23,289 --> 00:20:25,959
with a subtle
political point of view.
519
00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:29,258
Recently, I did my most
eloquent sculpture to date.
520
00:20:29,261 --> 00:20:31,501
I used four gallons
of vanilla ice cream,
521
00:20:31,497 --> 00:20:34,427
and I molded the first family.
522
00:20:34,433 --> 00:20:36,503
And then I invited
some of my friends over,
523
00:20:36,502 --> 00:20:39,712
and we sat around
and watched them melt.
524
00:20:39,705 --> 00:20:42,165
Kohen: She was a very dominant
voice at the time.
525
00:20:42,174 --> 00:20:43,944
I mean, you can find
Rolling Stone covers
526
00:20:43,943 --> 00:20:46,413
where it was, like
Richard Pryor, Lily Tomlin,
527
00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,182
and they are our most
dangerous comedians
528
00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:50,180
doing the most dangerous stuff.
529
00:20:50,182 --> 00:20:53,422
Nesteroff: They both immersed
themselves in characters.
530
00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:57,619
The very first Lily Tomlin
special on NBC, 1974,
531
00:20:57,623 --> 00:20:59,023
they both won Emmy Awards.
532
00:20:59,024 --> 00:21:01,334
So did its producer,
a guy named Lorne Michaels.
533
00:21:01,327 --> 00:21:03,497
And based on the strength
of that special,
534
00:21:03,496 --> 00:21:04,726
the "Lily" special,
535
00:21:04,730 --> 00:21:06,830
he got the pilot
for "Saturday Night Live."
536
00:21:06,832 --> 00:21:09,032
"Dear Roseanne Roseannadanna..."
537
00:21:09,034 --> 00:21:11,474
I don know where you get it,
how you get it,
538
00:21:11,470 --> 00:21:13,010
or who actually milks
the dogs,
539
00:21:13,005 --> 00:21:14,305
and I don care
to know.
540
00:21:14,306 --> 00:21:15,536
Hi. [ Laughs ]
541
00:21:15,541 --> 00:21:18,941
"Saturday Night Live"
definitely early on ‐‐
542
00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:20,454
amazing that
right out of the gate,
543
00:21:20,446 --> 00:21:23,846
it was Laraine Newman and
Jane Curtin and Gilda Radner.
544
00:21:23,849 --> 00:21:26,179
Now, Candy, Candy...
545
00:21:26,185 --> 00:21:27,445
They could definitely
hang with the guys.
546
00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:29,663
They were just as important,
and they were hilarious.
547
00:21:29,655 --> 00:21:33,225
Hey, stud muffins,
want to make bouncy bouncy?
548
00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:36,185
[ Laughter ]
549
00:21:36,195 --> 00:21:39,325
They had three female performers
and three female writers,
550
00:21:39,331 --> 00:21:41,671
which, if you look
at the comedy landscape
551
00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:43,297
at that time, is unheard of.
552
00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:45,442
What made "Saturday Night Live"
different from
553
00:21:45,437 --> 00:21:48,537
those other shows was,
our show was the first one
554
00:21:48,541 --> 00:21:51,941
to really have a voice
for a younger generation.
555
00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:53,654
Then the man...
556
00:21:55,247 --> 00:21:57,117
Ew!
557
00:21:57,116 --> 00:22:02,816
Ew!
Yahhh!
558
00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:03,962
Thats disgusting.
559
00:22:03,956 --> 00:22:05,186
And then you scream,
560
00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:07,461
and then he screams,
and then its over.
561
00:22:07,459 --> 00:22:08,689
[ Groans ]
562
00:22:08,694 --> 00:22:11,534
The early days of "SNL"
were a tale of two worlds
563
00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:14,500
because you had these great
female writers like Anne Beatts
564
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:16,570
and Marilyn Miller
and Rosie Shuster.
565
00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:18,369
But then you had ‐‐
Like, John Belushi
566
00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:20,570
didn want to do sketches
that were written by women.
567
00:22:20,573 --> 00:22:23,843
I like sirloin steak.
I like American food.
568
00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:25,443
Wrap it up.
Don push me, Curtin!
569
00:22:25,444 --> 00:22:27,654
I mean it!
John used to regularly ask
570
00:22:27,646 --> 00:22:30,646
for the women
to be fired [Laughs] on the show
571
00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:32,049
because chicks
just weren funny.
572
00:22:32,051 --> 00:22:34,451
Awful! Awful!
573
00:22:34,453 --> 00:22:35,793
Awful!
Couldn be worse!
574
00:22:35,788 --> 00:22:39,288
Really enough to make you
want to puke your guts out.
575
00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:41,061
Beatts:
It was an uphill battle.
576
00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:43,330
Lorne used to come round to me
and Rosie and go, like,
577
00:22:43,329 --> 00:22:45,129
"So, what have you got
for the girls?"
578
00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:47,230
We felt an obligation
to cover them
579
00:22:47,233 --> 00:22:49,533
since the men didn write
that much for them.
580
00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:56,405
[ Laughing ]
581
00:22:56,408 --> 00:22:57,908
But seriously...
582
00:22:57,910 --> 00:22:59,140
[ Laughter ]
583
00:22:59,144 --> 00:23:01,284
They started to write
more for Gilda
584
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,550
because Gilda was
very outgoing, you know,
585
00:23:03,549 --> 00:23:06,989
and she was more of
a proven laugh‐getter.
586
00:23:06,986 --> 00:23:09,616
Ahh! Thats the...
587
00:23:09,622 --> 00:23:11,762
No! Im gonna have to...
588
00:23:11,757 --> 00:23:13,457
Bloom: When I saw Gilda Radner,
my mind was blown.
589
00:23:13,459 --> 00:23:15,389
There was just something about
her that was really magnetic.
590
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:18,134
She committed to it so hard,
and she wasn afraid
591
00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:21,530
to not be dainty
with her character work.
592
00:23:21,533 --> 00:23:24,843
What is that bewitching scent
youre wearing?
593
00:23:24,837 --> 00:23:26,167
Vicks VapoRub.
594
00:23:26,171 --> 00:23:27,371
[ Laughter ]
595
00:23:27,373 --> 00:23:29,443
There was never a moment
596
00:23:29,441 --> 00:23:31,481
when you thought,
"Wait a second.
597
00:23:31,477 --> 00:23:33,477
These women
don deserve to be there."
598
00:23:33,479 --> 00:23:35,349
What do you see?
599
00:23:35,347 --> 00:23:36,347
Wax buildup.
600
00:23:36,348 --> 00:23:37,778
Kohen:
The stuff they were doing
601
00:23:37,783 --> 00:23:39,523
was as edgy
as what the guys were doing,
602
00:23:39,518 --> 00:23:42,188
and a lot of the sketches have
withstood the test of time.
603
00:23:42,187 --> 00:23:44,817
I love him!
I love him!
604
00:23:44,823 --> 00:23:45,823
I love him!
605
00:23:45,824 --> 00:23:48,064
And where he goes,
Ill swallow,
606
00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:50,000
Ill swallow,
Ill swallow.
607
00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:01,674
Man: It is possible ‐‐
but just barely ‐‐
608
00:24:01,674 --> 00:24:03,244
that one of the people
waiting in line
609
00:24:03,242 --> 00:24:06,342
outside this New York nightclub
is a future star.
610
00:24:06,345 --> 00:24:08,275
It is certain
that each one thinks
611
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,350
he or she is star material,
talented,
612
00:24:10,349 --> 00:24:12,649
and just waiting
for the right break.
613
00:24:12,651 --> 00:24:15,821
Zoglin:
In the 70s, when the stand‐up
comedy boom is starting,
614
00:24:15,821 --> 00:24:17,791
women definitely
had a tougher time.
615
00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:20,160
Only a very few,
like Elayne Boosler,
616
00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:23,059
managed to crack
the stand‐up comedy clubs.
617
00:24:23,062 --> 00:24:25,232
Do you know that people
have donor cards
618
00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:27,970
on their drivers licenses,
that if they have an accident
619
00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:29,897
they will leave parts
of their body to someone?
620
00:24:29,902 --> 00:24:31,302
Who would want
to receive the eyes
621
00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:33,273
that didn see the car
in the first place?
622
00:24:33,272 --> 00:24:36,142
[ Laughter ]
623
00:24:36,141 --> 00:24:38,281
Elayne Boosler
was a game‐changer
624
00:24:38,277 --> 00:24:40,247
because before her,
625
00:24:40,245 --> 00:24:43,945
there hadn been
a young, single,
626
00:24:43,949 --> 00:24:47,589
female comic who went out
onstage with no apologies
627
00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:50,656
for who she was and just
kind of told it like is.
628
00:24:50,656 --> 00:24:53,086
I guess maybe breasts
are the most important part
629
00:24:53,092 --> 00:24:54,492
of the body,
when you think about it.
630
00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:56,763
I mean, without them,
employers just wouldn know
631
00:24:56,762 --> 00:24:59,932
who to give the
smaller paychecks to, so...
632
00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:03,772
I came along in 73 and started
to reflect the times I lived in.
633
00:25:03,769 --> 00:25:06,299
Women were starting to work.
The pill was here.
634
00:25:06,305 --> 00:25:08,605
Single women
were starting to have sex.
635
00:25:08,607 --> 00:25:09,877
You weren labeled anymore.
636
00:25:09,875 --> 00:25:11,075
They think were dumb,
637
00:25:11,076 --> 00:25:12,576
so they put too many directions
on the products.
638
00:25:12,578 --> 00:25:14,008
Like, on the home
pregnancy test, it says,
639
00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:15,913
"For use in the privacy
of your own home."
640
00:25:15,914 --> 00:25:17,154
Oh, good.
641
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:19,519
I was gonna drive
to a crowded shopping center.
642
00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:22,748
That was a little threatening
to some men in the audience
643
00:25:22,755 --> 00:25:24,755
and even for some club owners.
644
00:25:24,757 --> 00:25:27,057
Boosler:
Everyone in the business
tried to talk me out of it.
645
00:25:27,059 --> 00:25:28,389
"You can be pretty
and do comedy.
646
00:25:28,394 --> 00:25:29,464
You can do it."
647
00:25:29,461 --> 00:25:31,131
And my best line in those years
was,
648
00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:34,300
"Im just a human being
trapped in a womans body."
649
00:25:34,299 --> 00:25:37,239
And I really believe that
summed up my approach to comedy.
650
00:25:37,236 --> 00:25:39,036
[ Applause ]
651
00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:41,508
Way back when,
652
00:25:41,507 --> 00:25:43,577
when I started
doing comedy in 1979,
653
00:25:43,575 --> 00:25:45,335
there were only
six female comedians
654
00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:47,514
working on the circuit,
only six, and it was really odd.
655
00:25:47,513 --> 00:25:49,453
We didn know each other
because the club owners
656
00:25:49,448 --> 00:25:51,778
would never book us together
cause it was such a rarity
657
00:25:51,784 --> 00:25:53,624
to have a female comic
to begin with.
658
00:25:53,619 --> 00:25:55,189
In fact, I remember
when Id go to some clubs
659
00:25:55,187 --> 00:25:56,347
around the country,
660
00:25:56,355 --> 00:25:58,055
whenever I performed,
the emcee would go,
661
00:25:58,057 --> 00:26:00,987
"Youre not gonna believe
what we have coming up next!
662
00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:02,533
Youre not gonna believe it!
663
00:26:02,528 --> 00:26:04,928
Its a female comic!"
664
00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:07,570
Like it was some sort
of estrogen freak show.
665
00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:08,966
[ Laughter ]
666
00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:11,067
I have definitely heard some
crazy intros over the years.
667
00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:12,270
Sometimes Ill go up on shows,
668
00:26:12,271 --> 00:26:13,971
and there will be
sort of an apology, like,
669
00:26:13,972 --> 00:26:17,012
"You guys, shes really funny.
670
00:26:17,009 --> 00:26:19,139
Shes one of my good friends."
671
00:26:19,144 --> 00:26:22,414
"We got a lady coming up next
who tells jokes.
672
00:26:22,414 --> 00:26:23,784
How about that?"
673
00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:26,282
So, Id get up there,
and Id be like, "I know.
674
00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:28,515
Whats with the jokes
and the vagina?
675
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,520
Am I right, fellas?"
676
00:26:29,521 --> 00:26:31,421
[ Laughter ]
677
00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:34,693
Kohen: Stand‐up in general
is a hostile environment,
678
00:26:34,693 --> 00:26:36,463
and I think if you were a woman,
679
00:26:36,462 --> 00:26:39,262
that hostile environment
just was like up times 10.
680
00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:42,074
You know, professional sports
just don do a thing for me.
681
00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:44,067
I like to ‐‐
682
00:26:44,069 --> 00:26:46,569
[ Man shouts indistinctly ]
683
00:26:46,572 --> 00:26:48,612
Good point. My mistake.
684
00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:53,447
[ Laughter ]
685
00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:56,545
Of course, I enjoy you
very, very much, but...
686
00:26:56,548 --> 00:26:58,878
When I was coming up,
I could always tell
687
00:26:58,884 --> 00:27:02,694
if I saw three or more
young guys in a group,
688
00:27:02,688 --> 00:27:05,458
I could kind of
set my watch to it and go,
689
00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:08,257
"When I go onstage, those guys
are gonna give me a problem."
690
00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:09,690
All right.
[ Man shouts indistinctly ]
691
00:27:09,695 --> 00:27:10,995
If that man screams
one more time,
692
00:27:10,996 --> 00:27:11,996
Im gonna whack his peepee.
693
00:27:11,997 --> 00:27:13,567
Do you understand
what Im gonna do?
694
00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:14,565
[ Applause ]
695
00:27:14,566 --> 00:27:16,266
When guys give you a hard time,
696
00:27:16,268 --> 00:27:18,498
you should just
go right for the jugular,
697
00:27:18,504 --> 00:27:19,904
which is basically...
698
00:27:19,905 --> 00:27:21,105
"Hey, buddy,
I don go to your job
699
00:27:21,106 --> 00:27:22,366
and knock the dicks
out of your mouth"...
700
00:27:22,374 --> 00:27:26,114
which I think is
appropriate and funny.
701
00:27:26,111 --> 00:27:27,511
Mister, I don have time
702
00:27:27,513 --> 00:27:29,983
to tell you all the things
that are the matter with you,
703
00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:32,752
but lets start with that
checkered bell‐bottom suit.
704
00:27:32,751 --> 00:27:34,091
Kohen:
You had to learn to deal with it
705
00:27:34,086 --> 00:27:35,516
if you wanted to make it
in the clubs,
706
00:27:35,521 --> 00:27:36,591
and the best ones did.
707
00:27:36,588 --> 00:27:37,718
Hi, pigs.
708
00:27:37,723 --> 00:27:39,123
[ Laughter ]
709
00:27:39,124 --> 00:27:42,564
I don know how to say this,
but I want to be on you.
710
00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:43,761
[ Laughter ]
711
00:27:43,762 --> 00:27:45,832
Rudner: I dated
my last boyfriend for two years,
712
00:27:45,831 --> 00:27:47,831
and finally,
I gave him an ultimatum.
713
00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,733
You know, I said, "Listen,
either you tell me your name,
714
00:27:49,735 --> 00:27:52,195
or its over."
[ Laughter ]
715
00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:55,444
This is my long,
luxurious, blond hair.
716
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,540
[ Laughter ]
717
00:27:56,542 --> 00:27:57,982
Ain it pretty?
718
00:27:57,976 --> 00:27:59,006
All: Yeah!
719
00:27:59,011 --> 00:28:00,381
I could put it in a ponytail.
720
00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:02,179
Want to see?
All: Yeah!
721
00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:03,951
No.
722
00:28:03,949 --> 00:28:05,719
Kohen: Whoopi Goldberg
always thought of herself
723
00:28:05,717 --> 00:28:07,687
as an actress
more so than a comedian.
724
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:10,486
She was very much
in the spirit of Lily Tomlin,
725
00:28:10,489 --> 00:28:12,589
more so than the stand‐ups
of her era.
726
00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:14,261
And they said, like,
"Are you a Valley girl?"
727
00:28:14,259 --> 00:28:15,629
And I said, "No, Im a surfer
728
00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:16,997
because before
there was the mall,
729
00:28:16,995 --> 00:28:18,295
there was the ocean, okay?"
730
00:28:18,297 --> 00:28:19,827
I, like...
731
00:28:19,831 --> 00:28:21,471
Chupack: It was so much more
than stand‐up.
732
00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:24,036
She was commenting
on the world were living in
733
00:28:24,036 --> 00:28:25,496
in a really interesting way
734
00:28:25,504 --> 00:28:27,474
through these
different characters.
735
00:28:27,472 --> 00:28:29,512
I passed this big dude
walking around the circus
736
00:28:29,508 --> 00:28:30,908
with a picket sign,
talking about,
737
00:28:30,909 --> 00:28:32,339
"Stop abortion."
738
00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:34,414
I said, "I have the answer
to abortion."
739
00:28:34,413 --> 00:28:35,583
He said, "What is it?"
740
00:28:35,581 --> 00:28:37,951
I said, "Shoot your dick."
741
00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:39,250
[ Laughter ]
742
00:28:39,251 --> 00:28:40,791
Goldberg:
I was always an actor,
743
00:28:40,786 --> 00:28:43,246
and one of the reasons
I started doing the monologues
744
00:28:43,255 --> 00:28:45,215
was because
I couldn get any work
745
00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:46,564
cause people
sort of look at you
746
00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:48,758
and decide what you can do
and what you can
747
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,630
or what they think
you can do.
748
00:28:50,629 --> 00:28:51,999
[ Cheers and applause ]
749
00:28:51,997 --> 00:28:54,597
What does it take
to become successful,
750
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,400
and how tough is it for you
compared to men?
751
00:28:57,402 --> 00:29:00,612
I think its harder to be
a man comic, actually.
752
00:29:00,606 --> 00:29:04,176
Yeah, cause theyre generally
not funny or intelligent.
753
00:29:04,176 --> 00:29:05,436
[ Laughter ]
754
00:29:05,444 --> 00:29:06,954
[ High‐pitched voice ]
"Roseanne, don you think
755
00:29:06,945 --> 00:29:11,545
we should talk about
our sexual problems?"
756
00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:13,590
[ Normal voice ] Like Im gonna
turn off "Wheel of Fortune"
757
00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:15,085
for that.
758
00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:16,217
[ Laughter ]
759
00:29:16,221 --> 00:29:19,121
Roseanne was the big
80s comic who came out.
760
00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:21,464
She was the kind of woman
that when you talk to people,
761
00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:22,690
they remember Roseanne.
762
00:29:22,694 --> 00:29:24,434
They remember
what her persona was.
763
00:29:24,429 --> 00:29:26,129
She had a clear point of view.
764
00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:28,071
I never get out of the house.
I never go no place.
765
00:29:28,066 --> 00:29:29,666
I never have no fun ever,
ever, ever,
766
00:29:29,668 --> 00:29:31,938
ever cause Im a housewife.
767
00:29:31,937 --> 00:29:33,067
I hate that word.
768
00:29:33,071 --> 00:29:34,611
I want to be called
"domestic goddess."
769
00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:36,506
Its so much more descriptive.
770
00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:39,578
Roseanne Barr took
the classic "housewife" stance
771
00:29:39,578 --> 00:29:41,208
and turned it on its head.
772
00:29:41,213 --> 00:29:42,453
They come up to me.
773
00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:44,947
They go, "God, Roseanne,
youre not very feminine."
774
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:45,980
[ Light laughter ]
775
00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:47,224
They say that.
776
00:29:47,219 --> 00:29:49,089
Can you believe that
they would say that to me?
777
00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:51,217
Can you even believe that?
"Youre not very feminine."
778
00:29:51,223 --> 00:29:53,263
So, I say, "Well, suck my dick!"
779
00:29:53,258 --> 00:29:55,888
[ Laughter ]
780
00:29:55,894 --> 00:29:57,734
Leifer:
She took off like a rocket.
781
00:29:57,729 --> 00:30:02,199
She really captured
what most great stand‐ups do
782
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,270
that connect
with the bigger, wide audience.
783
00:30:05,270 --> 00:30:07,110
She was authentic.
784
00:30:07,105 --> 00:30:08,405
Maher: Oh, please.
If I came out ‐‐
785
00:30:08,407 --> 00:30:10,207
Come on. Women have been
the butt of male jokes
786
00:30:10,208 --> 00:30:12,778
for two million years,
and weve always laughed.
787
00:30:12,778 --> 00:30:15,448
And now I come out and I make
a few crummy little jokes
788
00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:17,677
about you and your penises
and you can take it.
789
00:30:17,683 --> 00:30:18,753
[ Cheers and applause ]
790
00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:20,050
Roseanne...
791
00:30:20,052 --> 00:30:21,252
[ Cheers and applause continue ]
792
00:30:29,895 --> 00:30:32,395
Listen to this.
Youll have to.
793
00:30:32,397 --> 00:30:34,497
My grandmother ‐‐
[ Laughter ]
794
00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:37,899
...she started walking five
miles a day when she was 60.
795
00:30:37,903 --> 00:30:39,243
Shes 97 today.
796
00:30:39,237 --> 00:30:41,207
We don know
where the hell she is.
797
00:30:41,206 --> 00:30:42,206
[ Laughter ]
798
00:30:42,207 --> 00:30:43,707
Griffin:
In the 90s club heyday,
799
00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:45,679
the clubs were so crowded
800
00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:47,377
because everybody
in the world thought,
801
00:30:47,379 --> 00:30:49,479
"Im gonna move
to California or New York.
802
00:30:49,481 --> 00:30:51,581
Im gonna do three funny minutes
803
00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:54,393
and then get my own sitcom
like Jerry Seinfeld."
804
00:30:54,386 --> 00:30:55,846
That was the downside
of that era.
805
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,964
They really just didn
really have room for me
806
00:30:57,956 --> 00:30:59,256
or the likes of me.
807
00:30:59,257 --> 00:31:02,187
Who could start off
the sex category other than ‐‐
808
00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:05,864
yes, you know it ‐‐
Miss Kathy Griffin?!
809
00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:08,604
Im gonna tell a story
that I told once before ‐‐
810
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,800
only once before.
811
00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:12,171
It is not the time
I fucked the midget.
812
00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:15,170
[ Laughter ]
It is ‐‐ Sorry.
813
00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:16,573
Thats another party.
814
00:31:16,575 --> 00:31:18,505
Sarah: These were people
that didn have
815
00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:20,580
as much success
in mainstream clubs
816
00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:24,349
because mainstream clubs
had mainstream comedy.
817
00:31:24,349 --> 00:31:26,849
They didn necessarily
go for weird.
818
00:31:26,852 --> 00:31:30,822
So they started their own rooms
with their own crowds.
819
00:31:30,822 --> 00:31:32,492
Im not ‐‐
Im not telling the story
820
00:31:32,491 --> 00:31:34,661
for any kind of shock value
or anything like that.
821
00:31:34,659 --> 00:31:35,929
Im just telling a story.
822
00:31:35,927 --> 00:31:38,597
The original stand‐up
from the late 70s
823
00:31:38,597 --> 00:31:40,157
was all setup,
punch line, setup, punch line.
824
00:31:40,165 --> 00:31:41,825
Thats all anybody was doing.
825
00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:43,273
And the alternative‐comedy scene
826
00:31:43,268 --> 00:31:46,268
suddenly was all this
personal storytelling.
827
00:31:46,271 --> 00:31:48,011
Theres five kids in our family.
Im the oldest.
828
00:31:48,006 --> 00:31:51,676
And my brother whos the
fourth child got lymph cancer.
829
00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:55,246
[ Chuckles ]
Hope for laughs. And, um...
830
00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:59,047
You could just be talking
about what happened that day.
831
00:31:59,050 --> 00:32:01,750
It was like somebody coming up
and reading their diary.
832
00:32:01,753 --> 00:32:02,793
Im sorry.
833
00:32:02,788 --> 00:32:04,188
I didn study theater
for 12 years
834
00:32:04,189 --> 00:32:06,659
just so I could go,
"Rambo, no!"
835
00:32:06,658 --> 00:32:07,658
[ Laughter ]
836
00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:09,289
We kind of free‐formed it
837
00:32:09,294 --> 00:32:11,234
and more of
a stream of consciousness.
838
00:32:11,229 --> 00:32:14,169
And that really caught on
with audiences
839
00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:17,366
and created its whole new
wave of comedians
840
00:32:17,369 --> 00:32:19,239
and women comedians.
841
00:32:19,237 --> 00:32:21,307
This alternative‐comedy scene
was happening
842
00:32:21,306 --> 00:32:25,576
alongside the rise of women
at "Saturday Night Live."
843
00:32:25,577 --> 00:32:26,777
Backflip!
Mary, Mary, stop it.
844
00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:27,778
Backflip!
Stop it!
845
00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:30,979
Mary, stop it!
Backflip!
846
00:32:30,982 --> 00:32:32,522
You had Molly Shannon.
847
00:32:32,517 --> 00:32:33,847
Simmer down, now!
848
00:32:33,852 --> 00:32:37,262
Kohen: And you had Cheri Oteri,
Ana Gasteyer.
849
00:32:37,255 --> 00:32:39,515
I think we both assumed ‐‐
and I think wrongfully ‐‐
850
00:32:39,524 --> 00:32:40,994
that a baker
of your generation
851
00:32:40,992 --> 00:32:44,562
might tend towards
a more dry or crusty muffin.
852
00:32:44,563 --> 00:32:46,703
And then Tina Fey
was brought on as a writer.
853
00:32:46,698 --> 00:32:49,668
In the 25‐plus years
of "Saturday Night Live,"
854
00:32:49,668 --> 00:32:52,698
you are the first
female head writer.
855
00:32:52,704 --> 00:32:54,844
I heard, "Oh, that place
is a boys club. Its horrible.
856
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,140
Its horrible."
And when I got there,
857
00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:58,341
my experience
was that it was not that bad.
858
00:32:58,343 --> 00:33:00,553
I think Ive been very lucky
to get places
859
00:33:00,545 --> 00:33:01,905
kind of
as they change.
860
00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:03,213
I quit being head writer.
861
00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:04,645
We all sat in the room,
and I go,
862
00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:06,549
"Clearly its Tina Fey
who should succeed me,"
863
00:33:06,551 --> 00:33:07,591
and everyone went, "Yup!"
864
00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:09,816
We all knew Tina
was the sharpest,
865
00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:11,661
kind of strongest writer
coming up.
866
00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:14,186
Research is being conducted
on the worlds first
867
00:33:14,192 --> 00:33:16,332
contraceptive patch for women.
868
00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:18,798
The patch is approximately
three inches in diameter
869
00:33:18,797 --> 00:33:20,697
and reads, "Get off me."
870
00:33:20,699 --> 00:33:21,799
[ Laughter ]
871
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,470
Once she became head writer,
872
00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:26,568
she was in a position
to advocate
873
00:33:26,571 --> 00:33:30,581
for the other women on the staff
to kind of explain to men,
874
00:33:30,575 --> 00:33:32,035
you know,
why something was funny.
875
00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:36,513
Announcer:
Introducing Kotex Classic.
876
00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,645
This is the original.
877
00:33:38,650 --> 00:33:42,050
I love the belt.
Its so complicated.
878
00:33:42,053 --> 00:33:45,523
Newman:
I think women really have
the market cornered on irony
879
00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:48,434
because were subject
to so much bullshit.
880
00:33:48,426 --> 00:33:49,856
Maybe what bothers me the most
881
00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:52,031
is that people say
that Hillary is a bitch.
882
00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:53,800
And let me say something
about that.
883
00:33:53,798 --> 00:33:56,368
Yeah, she is. Yeah.
884
00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:58,068
And so I am.
And so is this one.
885
00:33:58,069 --> 00:33:59,099
Yeah.
Deal with it.
886
00:33:59,104 --> 00:34:01,474
Yeah.
You know what?
887
00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:03,273
Bitches get stuff done.
888
00:34:03,275 --> 00:34:04,535
And all of a sudden,
889
00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:07,213
badass women
were the force of that show.
890
00:34:07,212 --> 00:34:08,482
Oh, my God!
891
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,280
What am I, the police or
something? You know what I say?
892
00:34:11,283 --> 00:34:13,283
Smoke em
if you got em.
Smoke em
if you got em.
893
00:34:13,285 --> 00:34:15,215
Do you love nice presents?
894
00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:17,520
Do you?!
[ Screaming ]
895
00:34:17,522 --> 00:34:18,792
Smith: You look at
"Saturday Night Live"
896
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:21,760
when I was a kid,
the names you knew were, like,
897
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,600
Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd,
Chevy Chase, John Belushi.
898
00:34:25,597 --> 00:34:26,797
You always knew
the dudes names.
899
00:34:26,798 --> 00:34:28,498
And now
when you talk about "SNL,"
900
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:29,900
the names that pop up ‐‐
901
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:33,441
Tina Fey, Amy Poehler,
Kristen Wiig, Leslie Jones...
902
00:34:33,438 --> 00:34:38,038
If you want to see
Leslie Jones naked, just ask!
903
00:34:38,043 --> 00:34:39,443
...and Kate McKinnon.
904
00:34:39,444 --> 00:34:42,754
The alien showed my mind
the furnace of all creation,
905
00:34:42,747 --> 00:34:45,317
what we could call God.
906
00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:46,777
What?
907
00:34:46,785 --> 00:34:49,285
[ Laughter ]
908
00:34:49,287 --> 00:34:51,987
These fancy cats
are seeing God.
909
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:53,890
Meanwhile,
Im starting phase two,
910
00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:58,432
which is me sitting on a stool
while 40 gray aliens
911
00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:03,300
take turns gently batting
my knockers around.
912
00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:04,871
McKay:
And then it spread into movies.
913
00:35:04,869 --> 00:35:07,039
Suddenly the biggest
comedy stars in the world
914
00:35:07,038 --> 00:35:08,108
are Melissa McCarthy.
915
00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:09,866
Theyre, you know, Kristen Wiig.
916
00:35:09,874 --> 00:35:12,414
This is some
classy shit here.
917
00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:13,440
[ Belches ]
918
00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:14,845
Jesus, Megan.
919
00:35:14,846 --> 00:35:16,846
Im s‐‐
I want to apologize.
920
00:35:16,848 --> 00:35:19,078
Im not even confident
of which end that came out of.
921
00:35:19,084 --> 00:35:21,124
"Bridesmaids" came out,
and it was like,
922
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,049
"This is gonna be
the definitive answer
923
00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:24,824
as to why women are funny."
924
00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:26,293
Now, I had known
women are funny for years
925
00:35:26,291 --> 00:35:28,391
cause I have a vagina, but...
[ Gags ]
926
00:35:28,393 --> 00:35:30,133
Oh, my ‐‐ Okay.
Oh, no.
927
00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,228
...they just hadn made it
to the big screen
928
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:34,330
in the way that they did
with "Bridesmaids."
929
00:35:34,332 --> 00:35:36,072
Its happening.
Its happening.
930
00:35:36,067 --> 00:35:38,867
Its happening.
Its happening.
931
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:41,740
Newman:
It showed studios that you could
make money with that.
932
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:44,880
And it opened that genre
of women behaving badly.
933
00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:47,706
Officer Doughnuts, why don you
go back into your squad car
934
00:35:47,712 --> 00:35:49,482
and go save a kitten
from a tree?
935
00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,451
Cause these pussies
are doing fine.
936
00:35:51,449 --> 00:35:54,049
These women are so good,
you cannot ignore them anymore.
937
00:35:54,052 --> 00:35:56,452
You want to stay with the
"best youve ever had" guy.
938
00:35:56,454 --> 00:35:57,994
No. You don.
Thats a creepy guy.
939
00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:00,689
"Best sex that youve ever had"
guy is in jail.
940
00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:01,832
You know what I mean?
941
00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:03,056
Yeah.
942
00:36:03,061 --> 00:36:05,161
But Ive been thinking about
maybe reaching out to him.
943
00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:07,703
[ Laughs ]
Bloom: Theres a lot
of creative freedom.
944
00:36:07,699 --> 00:36:09,599
Yes!
Theres a lot embracing
945
00:36:09,601 --> 00:36:12,071
of diversity in stories
that haven been told yet.
946
00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:14,240
So, I think its a great time
to be a woman.
947
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,439
What are those?
What ‐‐ What are those?
948
00:36:16,441 --> 00:36:17,811
Stop.
Stop it.
949
00:36:17,809 --> 00:36:20,479
Theyre my Spanx.
They hold everything together.
950
00:36:20,478 --> 00:36:23,008
Why? Whats gonna f‐‐
come fucking popping out?
951
00:36:31,756 --> 00:36:34,556
I was trying to describe
your humor, and I was thinking,
952
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:37,659
"Well, irreverent
isn really strong enough."
953
00:36:37,662 --> 00:36:40,262
So I came up
with the word "demented."
954
00:36:40,265 --> 00:36:42,595
Ooh.
I like "demented."
955
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,340
Because ‐‐
Yeah. I like "demented"
956
00:36:44,335 --> 00:36:47,765
because Ive been trying
not to say "retarded"
957
00:36:47,772 --> 00:36:50,342
because I do feel like
its not nice.
958
00:36:50,341 --> 00:36:51,781
"Demented."
959
00:36:51,776 --> 00:36:53,136
Yeah.
Does that work for you?
960
00:36:53,144 --> 00:36:54,984
Yeah.
"Demented," "ridiculous."
961
00:36:54,979 --> 00:36:57,479
I was licking jelly off
of my boyfriends penis,
962
00:36:57,482 --> 00:37:00,522
and all of a sudden ‐‐
[ Laughter ]
963
00:37:00,518 --> 00:37:01,918
...all of a sudden,
Im thinking,
964
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,220
"Oh, my God,
Im turning into my mother."
965
00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:07,022
You know? Its like...
[ Laughter ]
966
00:37:07,025 --> 00:37:08,485
Kohen:
When you think of comedy
967
00:37:08,493 --> 00:37:10,363
as being something
that pushes boundaries
968
00:37:10,361 --> 00:37:13,861
and thats commenting
on society, on a certain level,
969
00:37:13,865 --> 00:37:16,765
what does a white man
have to say anymore?
970
00:37:16,768 --> 00:37:19,698
And men ‐‐ whew, you guys
are catching hell.
971
00:37:19,704 --> 00:37:22,214
Youre probably not feeling
any better, right?
972
00:37:22,207 --> 00:37:25,737
Cause every other commercial
is for broke dick.
973
00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:26,814
[ Laughter ]
974
00:37:26,811 --> 00:37:28,111
Apatow:
If you look at the culture,
975
00:37:28,113 --> 00:37:30,053
whos changing
the culture right now?
976
00:37:30,048 --> 00:37:31,978
And I don know
if theres a male equivalent
977
00:37:31,983 --> 00:37:34,823
to what a lot of hilarious,
thoughtful women
978
00:37:34,819 --> 00:37:37,149
are doing right now.
979
00:37:37,155 --> 00:37:38,755
No, no. Shh.
Hush. Hush. Hush.
980
00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:40,457
Its been quite a ‐‐
The point is
that Im doing fantastic.
981
00:37:40,458 --> 00:37:42,688
Shes doing great.
Hes a 6.
982
00:37:42,694 --> 00:37:45,064
Oh, totally a 6.
Yum.
983
00:37:45,063 --> 00:37:47,573
Hes a 10.
I mean, look at him.
984
00:37:47,565 --> 00:37:49,625
I hope hes like
seven inches, max.
985
00:37:49,634 --> 00:37:51,244
Inches? I thought we were
rating them on hotness.
986
00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:52,966
I thought we were
rating them on dick size.
987
00:37:52,971 --> 00:37:55,041
Why would we be
rating them on dick size?
988
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,169
Ladies,
your staring is making
989
00:37:57,175 --> 00:37:59,085
some of the guys
feel uncomfortable.
990
00:38:04,582 --> 00:38:05,582
Seven. Seven.
991
00:38:05,583 --> 00:38:07,023
I think its really fair to say
992
00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:09,888
that its never been better
for women in comedy, absolutely.
993
00:38:09,888 --> 00:38:13,218
Bamford: It has gotten a lot
better and could get even...
994
00:38:13,224 --> 00:38:15,564
more better? Mo better?
995
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,960
I think feminism
is the worst thing
996
00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:20,802
that ever happened to women.
997
00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:24,469
Our job used to be no job.
998
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:25,739
[ Laughter ]
999
00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:28,167
Then all these women
had to show off and be like,
1000
00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:31,183
"We can do it.
We can do anything."
1001
00:38:31,176 --> 00:38:33,476
Bitch, shut up!
1002
00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:36,378
Everywhere I look, I see
amazing women doing comedy,
1003
00:38:36,381 --> 00:38:37,751
and there are more venues
to do comedy
1004
00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:39,749
than there have ever been.
1005
00:38:39,751 --> 00:38:41,521
Newman: Theyre afforded
all these platforms.
1006
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:42,949
They can make their own stuff.
1007
00:38:42,954 --> 00:38:44,464
They don have to
answer to anybody,
1008
00:38:44,455 --> 00:38:46,885
so their content can be
just what they want it to be.
1009
00:38:46,891 --> 00:38:48,091
Mwah!
1010
00:38:48,092 --> 00:38:49,592
♪ This is where
our poop comes out ♪
1011
00:38:49,594 --> 00:38:51,404
♪ This is
what you think is hot? ♪
1012
00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:52,796
♪ This is
what you think is hot? ♪
1013
00:38:52,797 --> 00:38:54,167
Is it someones birthday
or...
1014
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:56,665
Were celebrating
Julias last fuckable day.
1015
00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,968
Yes. Salud.
Woman: Whoo!
1016
00:38:58,970 --> 00:39:00,570
Griffin: I love watching
these young women
1017
00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:02,312
be unabashedly feministic.
1018
00:39:02,307 --> 00:39:04,737
Its great that they can be loud
and proud about these issues.
1019
00:39:04,742 --> 00:39:06,142
Also, theyre real issues.
1020
00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:08,954
Wong: The best comedies
and the best television now
1021
00:39:08,947 --> 00:39:12,047
is all being created
and show‐run by women.
1022
00:39:12,050 --> 00:39:14,350
I have my own sho‐‐
1023
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:16,122
Its about time.
1024
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,150
Ugh.
1025
00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:19,885
Man: I have mild,
extra mild.
1026
00:39:19,891 --> 00:39:22,191
I have no idea
what that one is.
1027
00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:26,063
And I hear really good things
about that English banger.
1028
00:39:26,064 --> 00:39:28,034
Actually,
you know what?
1029
00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:30,772
I think Im kind of done
with sausages.
1030
00:39:30,768 --> 00:39:32,638
Late night
is one of the last places
1031
00:39:32,637 --> 00:39:34,867
where it still feels
very much a mens club.
1032
00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:36,313
So its great
to have Samantha Bee.
1033
00:39:36,307 --> 00:39:38,707
Is that okay for you, that he
is representing the country
1034
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:40,210
in an old‐timey
racist way?
1035
00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:42,611
If it is a negative, I would say
its like a minor negative.
1036
00:39:42,614 --> 00:39:44,624
Im so confused
by you.
1037
00:39:44,616 --> 00:39:47,016
Bee: Watching someone choke down
a piece of their soul
1038
00:39:47,018 --> 00:39:49,348
just to belong
broke my fact checker.
1039
00:39:49,354 --> 00:39:50,864
You can do this.
1040
00:39:50,855 --> 00:39:54,755
Boosler:
Samantha Bee is the best
political show on television.
1041
00:39:54,759 --> 00:39:57,499
I don think anybody
cuts to the core like she does.
1042
00:39:57,495 --> 00:40:00,195
But to see her do it
and shove it down their throats
1043
00:40:00,198 --> 00:40:02,298
cause they have to take it
from a "girl."
1044
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:03,470
Shes brilliant.
1045
00:40:03,468 --> 00:40:05,138
We do stories on the show
1046
00:40:05,136 --> 00:40:06,936
that we feel passionately about
in the moment,
1047
00:40:06,938 --> 00:40:08,468
and we just
see the world differently.
1048
00:40:08,473 --> 00:40:10,573
Anybody have any questions?
Oh, yes.
1049
00:40:10,575 --> 00:40:12,975
Is it hard
breaking into the boys club?
1050
00:40:12,977 --> 00:40:14,077
Okay ‐‐
1051
00:40:14,078 --> 00:40:15,648
Whats it like
being a woman in late night?
1052
00:40:15,647 --> 00:40:17,347
How can I watch your show
as a man?
1053
00:40:17,348 --> 00:40:19,218
Whats it like to be
a female woman?
1054
00:40:19,217 --> 00:40:21,147
[ Indistinct shouting ]
1055
00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:24,162
I think were at
our greatest point
1056
00:40:24,155 --> 00:40:26,085
for women in comedy,
I would guess,
1057
00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,290
but we still have
a very long way to go.
1058
00:40:28,293 --> 00:40:29,433
Oh.
1059
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,457
Beatts:
The fact that people have to
1060
00:40:31,462 --> 00:40:33,832
keep talking about
women in comedy indicates
1061
00:40:33,831 --> 00:40:35,901
that its not equal.
1062
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:38,370
I guess its a normal question.
Is it harder for female comics?
1063
00:40:38,369 --> 00:40:40,299
Is it harder? Its not.
1064
00:40:40,305 --> 00:40:41,535
Like, they think
we just get up here
1065
00:40:41,539 --> 00:40:43,439
and just bleed
all over the stage.
1066
00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:45,641
Im just, "Ohh, my ovaries.
1067
00:40:45,643 --> 00:40:47,413
How do I keep them in my body?"
1068
00:40:47,412 --> 00:40:48,782
Uh...
1069
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,780
People will always want
to talk about women in comedy.
1070
00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:53,452
I mean, you guys
are doing a documentary,
1071
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,151
and youre doing a segment
on women in comedy.
1072
00:40:56,154 --> 00:40:59,464
The fact that its 2016
and "women in comedy"
1073
00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:02,157
is still a topic
is so embarrassing.
1074
00:41:03,728 --> 00:41:06,398
Im sorry. That just
drives me fucking crazy.
1075
00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:09,867
Its a different kind
of patriarchal society
1076
00:41:09,867 --> 00:41:12,697
in the 50s
as opposed to sexism now.
1077
00:41:12,704 --> 00:41:14,144
They didn know
any different then.
1078
00:41:14,138 --> 00:41:15,508
But youre so pretty,
see?
1079
00:41:15,506 --> 00:41:16,836
Oh, is that what it is?
Yep.
1080
00:41:16,841 --> 00:41:18,311
And thats the way it was.
1081
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:20,709
Now they know better,
and they want to stop it.
1082
00:41:20,712 --> 00:41:23,482
Now when you hear men
say women aren funny,
1083
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:25,881
I just think,
"Oh, you sad old man.
1084
00:41:25,883 --> 00:41:28,853
Get on ‐‐ Get on your
little glacier and just die."
1085
00:41:28,853 --> 00:41:31,823
Woman: Do you think most women
sell themselves short?
1086
00:41:31,823 --> 00:41:33,063
Yes.
1087
00:41:33,057 --> 00:41:35,227
Most women have been told
to sell themselves short.
1088
00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:36,986
See, I think women
are brighter than men.
1089
00:41:36,995 --> 00:41:39,355
I think women
are more sensitive than men.
1090
00:41:39,364 --> 00:41:41,804
And I think women
are stronger than me.
1091
00:41:41,799 --> 00:41:43,669
Plus, we have that
extra little layer of fat,
1092
00:41:43,668 --> 00:41:46,738
so if we ever fall in the water,
we live longer.
1093
00:41:46,738 --> 00:41:48,038
[ Both laugh ]
1094
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:51,339
[ Southern accent ]
Shes one of them girl comics.
1095
00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:53,542
Them ‐‐ Them ain that funny.
They got a ‐‐
1096
00:41:53,544 --> 00:41:56,784
They got an extra gland
down in their hoo‐hah,
1097
00:41:56,781 --> 00:41:58,721
and it filters
the jokes through.
1098
00:41:58,716 --> 00:42:01,946
It ain funny.
I read it in the science book.
1099
00:42:04,055 --> 00:42:05,755
Its science.
You can look it up.
1100
00:42:05,757 --> 00:42:08,657
There was a whole episode
on "Planet Earth"
1101
00:42:08,659 --> 00:42:13,259
they did about women
and their anti‐joke "vaginers."
1102
00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:16,134
It was in HD, too.
It was horrifying.
83063
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