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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,189 --> 00:00:05,439 (ominous string music) 2 00:00:26,130 --> 00:00:28,410 - The current system has to go through a collapse 3 00:00:28,410 --> 00:00:30,700 unless you believe that infinite growth is possible 4 00:00:30,700 --> 00:00:32,060 on a finite planet. 5 00:00:32,060 --> 00:00:35,030 The system is growth dependent, so there's gonna be 6 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:37,103 a collapse in one form or another. 7 00:00:39,950 --> 00:00:42,727 - If you just look at what's happening in terms of 8 00:00:42,727 --> 00:00:47,727 deforestation, resource overconsumption, waste streams 9 00:00:48,050 --> 00:00:51,640 and climate change, and I mean, these are all phenomena 10 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,080 that are brought about by our overconsumption, 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,411 overexploitation of resources. 12 00:00:56,411 --> 00:00:59,328 (unsettling music) 13 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,420 - We have to leave 80% at least of the fossil fuel 14 00:01:09,420 --> 00:01:12,070 that we know about and that we know we could make money 15 00:01:12,070 --> 00:01:14,180 digging up, we have to leave it in the ground 16 00:01:14,180 --> 00:01:16,053 for the entire century at least. 17 00:01:18,530 --> 00:01:21,851 - [Man] The ecological crisis comes from treating the earth 18 00:01:21,851 --> 00:01:25,373 as an other, as just a bunch of stuff. 19 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,370 - We've been so powerful and we've impacted on so much 20 00:01:31,211 --> 00:01:34,420 of the wild world around us that if we don't do something 21 00:01:34,420 --> 00:01:38,273 fairly soon, the wild world is going to consume us. 22 00:01:38,273 --> 00:01:41,356 (eerie string music) 23 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,188 - You know, these are the massive issues, climate change, 24 00:01:45,188 --> 00:01:48,230 energy and food, all of these things that are converging 25 00:01:49,878 --> 00:01:52,209 on us and yet, you know, you pick up the paper every day 26 00:01:52,209 --> 00:01:54,259 and there'll be nothing about this stuff. 27 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:57,670 - If you look at our global economic system, 28 00:01:57,670 --> 00:02:00,680 I'd guess you'd have to first think of it as a system 29 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,587 by accident, nobody sat down and designed this thing 30 00:02:03,587 --> 00:02:06,910 and in a lot of ways, it's sort of the worst 31 00:02:06,910 --> 00:02:09,473 of all possible combinations, because what you have 32 00:02:09,473 --> 00:02:14,107 is something that is supposed to be based in the real world 33 00:02:14,107 --> 00:02:17,323 but behaves as if it were in a fantasy world. 34 00:02:18,990 --> 00:02:22,747 - It's really exploitive, extractive, damaging, 35 00:02:22,747 --> 00:02:26,789 not only to people but to the environment 36 00:02:26,789 --> 00:02:29,947 and to the economy too. 37 00:02:29,947 --> 00:02:32,530 (somber music) 38 00:02:34,980 --> 00:02:38,630 I think we're heading for some very deep water 39 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:41,143 if we don't make these changes. 40 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:47,330 - Being sustainable is not just a nice thing to do. 41 00:02:47,330 --> 00:02:50,070 Being unsustainable isn't just a bit unfortunate. 42 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:53,706 It is an existential threat to our species. 43 00:02:53,706 --> 00:02:56,100 People don't seem to get that. 44 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:58,900 We actually need to do something about it or we're gone. 45 00:03:01,090 --> 00:03:03,570 - You've probably had those moments of despair 46 00:03:03,570 --> 00:03:05,400 where you think it's just hopeless and the world 47 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,867 is always gonna be this way and anything we do is not enough 48 00:03:08,867 --> 00:03:12,540 but there's also and I would say that this is more 49 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:15,520 of a heart knowing that understands that 50 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,627 a more beautiful world is possible. 51 00:03:17,627 --> 00:03:20,210 (somber music) 52 00:03:48,498 --> 00:03:51,498 (atmospheric music) 53 00:04:08,341 --> 00:04:11,508 (gentle string music) 54 00:04:35,036 --> 00:04:37,619 (somber music) 55 00:04:46,651 --> 00:04:49,500 - The world is built on stories. 56 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:52,610 Or even a story, a mythology. 57 00:04:52,610 --> 00:04:54,130 Every culture has a mythology 58 00:04:54,130 --> 00:04:56,400 that answers the deep questions 59 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,400 like who am I, what is a self, what's real, 60 00:05:02,290 --> 00:05:05,692 how does change happen, what's the nature of reality? 61 00:05:05,692 --> 00:05:08,275 (string music) 62 00:05:09,575 --> 00:05:11,370 Every culture answers that in a different way 63 00:05:11,370 --> 00:05:15,200 and the answers that our culture has 64 00:05:16,076 --> 00:05:17,600 and when I say our culture I mean the dominant culture 65 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,460 of this planet, the answers that have worked and guided 66 00:05:21,460 --> 00:05:23,660 our culture for several hundred years now 67 00:05:23,660 --> 00:05:25,760 and to some extent thousands of years 68 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,750 aren't working anymore, we're facing a crisis 69 00:05:28,750 --> 00:05:32,132 in our basic way of making meaning about the world 70 00:05:32,132 --> 00:05:35,857 and our understanding of the recipe for living life 71 00:05:35,857 --> 00:05:39,953 and all of these things are in a state of crisis. 72 00:05:39,953 --> 00:05:43,120 (somber string music) 73 00:05:48,690 --> 00:05:52,115 - The problems that we face in terms of environmental 74 00:05:52,115 --> 00:05:55,970 condition, degradation, overconsumption of resources, 75 00:05:55,970 --> 00:05:59,036 a lot of social justice problems, really pretty much 76 00:05:59,036 --> 00:06:02,015 all stem from a common cause and that's economics. 77 00:06:02,015 --> 00:06:05,130 (somber string music) 78 00:06:05,130 --> 00:06:07,520 The biggest problem it has for us right now, 79 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,810 the biggest implication it has for humans 80 00:06:09,810 --> 00:06:12,260 and pretty much everything else on the planet 81 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:15,200 is that it's causing a lot of unsustainable growth, 82 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,340 it's causing growth to accelerate in a way that cannot 83 00:06:19,340 --> 00:06:24,037 be met by natural resources or sinks on the planet we have. 84 00:06:24,037 --> 00:06:27,204 (somber string music) 85 00:06:28,580 --> 00:06:31,160 - The money system demands endless growth. 86 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,920 It compels endless growth, it encourages endless growth. 87 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,399 So in other words, it encourages the conversion 88 00:06:37,399 --> 00:06:41,553 of nature into property, into profits. 89 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,390 - Now the problem with this growth, of course, 90 00:06:46,390 --> 00:06:49,290 is that if the economy keeps growing, 91 00:06:49,290 --> 00:06:51,960 sooner or later it needs natural resources 92 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,836 to support that growth. 93 00:06:53,836 --> 00:06:56,503 (bombs explode) 94 00:07:00,956 --> 00:07:03,539 (somber music) 95 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,400 - One of the big flaws in the current money system 96 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,790 is interest, we would probably only need to work 97 00:07:11,790 --> 00:07:13,530 half of the hours that we do 98 00:07:14,761 --> 00:07:19,550 and still be able to maintain the same standard of living 99 00:07:19,550 --> 00:07:20,913 if it wasn't for interest. 100 00:07:21,970 --> 00:07:26,970 Interest is hidden in so many ways. 101 00:07:27,110 --> 00:07:29,903 The price of any goods and services, 102 00:07:30,810 --> 00:07:35,810 most businesses have loans on which they pay interest 103 00:07:37,550 --> 00:07:40,630 and they don't pay interest, you do. 104 00:07:40,630 --> 00:07:41,463 I do. 105 00:07:43,250 --> 00:07:47,430 And so that means that we have to work and work and work 106 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:51,573 and exploit Mother Nature as well in the process. 107 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,940 Way more than would be necessary if it wasn't for interest. 108 00:07:57,940 --> 00:08:00,523 (somber music) 109 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,690 - For a lot of the things to keep running, 110 00:08:07,690 --> 00:08:11,130 keep the finance engine ticking along and keep economies 111 00:08:11,130 --> 00:08:14,040 moving, we have to have lots and lots of energy. 112 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,790 (frenetic music) 113 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:28,340 Energy for extracting natural resources, 114 00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:30,281 energy for shipping things around the world, 115 00:08:30,281 --> 00:08:33,518 energy for manufacturing, energy to promote them, 116 00:08:33,518 --> 00:08:36,760 energy to keep them going, energy to maintain things 117 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,838 so it's a lot of energy used in the system. 118 00:08:39,838 --> 00:08:42,421 (somber music) 119 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:48,400 - Fossil fuel energy is energy from the sun 120 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,177 that's been stored in plants or other living things. 121 00:08:51,177 --> 00:08:54,070 And has been stored under the ground usually 122 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:56,420 for millions and millions of years. 123 00:08:56,420 --> 00:08:59,630 When you dig it up, you get a free bonus, basically, 124 00:08:59,630 --> 00:09:02,810 you get this amazing wealth of energy which you can do 125 00:09:02,810 --> 00:09:05,230 all kinds of creative and amazing things with, 126 00:09:05,230 --> 00:09:08,740 but the problem is, is that when it runs out, that's it, 127 00:09:08,740 --> 00:09:09,953 it's gone. 128 00:09:12,270 --> 00:09:14,380 The other aspect of that, of course, is the process 129 00:09:14,380 --> 00:09:17,420 of getting it and digging it up is both destructive 130 00:09:17,420 --> 00:09:20,281 and so expensive and requires energy to do. 131 00:09:20,281 --> 00:09:23,031 (frenetic music) 132 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:44,000 - Peak oil is a concept that is quite simple. 133 00:09:44,359 --> 00:09:48,178 What it means is that you have a finite amount of something 134 00:09:48,178 --> 00:09:53,178 and if you consume it at a steady rate, then... 135 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,210 There kind of isn't a peak, you just consume it, 136 00:09:56,210 --> 00:09:59,340 but if you consume it with an increasing rate 137 00:09:59,340 --> 00:10:02,370 then you'll hit a point where you can't increase anymore, 138 00:10:02,370 --> 00:10:04,580 that would be a peak, and then the consumption 139 00:10:04,580 --> 00:10:06,593 would necessarily drop off in some way. 140 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,600 (somber music) 141 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,080 - The energy return on investment from fossil fuels 142 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,730 when we first discovered it was so big 143 00:10:15,730 --> 00:10:19,080 and that's why we have the abundance that we have now, 144 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,820 as just that free energy and we've been having this 145 00:10:21,820 --> 00:10:25,690 crazy party for a hundred years now on fossil fuels, 146 00:10:25,690 --> 00:10:27,920 it's just a crazy binge that we've been on 147 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,050 and we're at the end of the binge now because the energy 148 00:10:31,050 --> 00:10:34,403 return on investment is dwindling all the time. 149 00:10:37,333 --> 00:10:39,330 That's how our food system works. 150 00:10:39,330 --> 00:10:41,700 We talked about this green revolution that would feed 151 00:10:41,700 --> 00:10:43,980 all these people, but it's not a green revolution. 152 00:10:43,980 --> 00:10:45,591 It's an oil revolution. 153 00:10:45,591 --> 00:10:48,900 (somber music) 154 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:53,143 - The entire system is hugely dependent on fossil fuels. 155 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:57,514 You pull those out and I guarantee you within days 156 00:10:57,514 --> 00:10:59,629 the whole thing is gonna fall down. 157 00:10:59,629 --> 00:11:02,212 (somber music) 158 00:11:04,850 --> 00:11:07,340 - If you take into account fossil fuels and the transport, 159 00:11:07,340 --> 00:11:10,700 the tilling, everything, the packaging, the movement, 160 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:15,700 the whole food system that we have in the developed world, 161 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:18,550 so called developed world, then... 162 00:11:18,550 --> 00:11:21,730 You know, there's at least 10 units of energy for every one 163 00:11:21,730 --> 00:11:23,270 we get out of it. 164 00:11:23,270 --> 00:11:25,320 - Basing a food production system that's meant 165 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,390 to feed the world on something which is temporary... 166 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,513 Brings obvious problems. 167 00:11:34,700 --> 00:11:39,371 As a result of that is the huge loss of biodiversity and 168 00:11:39,371 --> 00:11:42,790 while not a lot of people care about bugs and all this 169 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:44,963 other stuff, biodiversity is critical. 170 00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:51,840 So when you strip that away by having what we call 171 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,223 monocultures, then you get massive problems. 172 00:11:56,909 --> 00:11:58,930 With monocultures, we are talking about growing one crop 173 00:11:58,930 --> 00:12:03,540 or farming one animal and you don't see that in nature. 174 00:12:03,540 --> 00:12:04,770 Nature doesn't work that way. 175 00:12:04,770 --> 00:12:08,743 It's evolved diversity for resilience. 176 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:14,110 When you take that away, these systems become really brittle 177 00:12:14,110 --> 00:12:16,383 and they're very prone to breaking. 178 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:21,080 Now we kind of stave off the worst of those effects 179 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,563 or we try to with fossil fuel inputs. 180 00:12:24,530 --> 00:12:27,770 We put in fertilizers, we put in herbicides, fungicides, 181 00:12:27,770 --> 00:12:31,040 pesticides, we go to great lengths to try and protect 182 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,933 these very fragile food production systems. 183 00:12:33,933 --> 00:12:36,516 (somber music) 184 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,477 I think what a lot of people don't realize is that 185 00:12:44,477 --> 00:12:47,203 our food system is incredibly vulnerable. 186 00:12:48,633 --> 00:12:52,800 We do a pretty good job most of the time of getting food 187 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,800 where it needs to go, managing supplies, managing surplus, 188 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,020 transportation, all that sort of stuff, 189 00:13:00,020 --> 00:13:04,631 but it is quite vulnerable to major upsets, 190 00:13:04,631 --> 00:13:08,026 all kinds of crises, particularly economic crises. 191 00:13:08,026 --> 00:13:11,109 (eerie string music) 192 00:13:11,996 --> 00:13:14,250 If the shops, the supermarkets, stop selling food 193 00:13:14,250 --> 00:13:19,250 for three days for some reason, how would you survive? 194 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,060 What would that be like? 195 00:13:22,060 --> 00:13:23,060 How would that feel? 196 00:13:23,930 --> 00:13:24,830 What would you do? 197 00:13:26,601 --> 00:13:31,290 You know, it's happened to me in a major city just one day 198 00:13:31,290 --> 00:13:34,690 and it really made me think, you begin to realize 199 00:13:34,690 --> 00:13:37,080 that there is a series of things that all need to be 200 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,360 in place and all need to be functioning properly 201 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,703 all the time for things to run smoothly. 202 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,053 In a world of increasing climate volatility 203 00:13:48,053 --> 00:13:53,053 and the economic pressures that that can bring, 204 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,673 it's really easy to see how a bad situation could develop. 205 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:03,240 - So this is the kind of scary reality and it's coming fast 206 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,150 unless we really, really quickly change our food system 207 00:14:07,150 --> 00:14:11,080 and how we do it, you know, then there's gonna be huge 208 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,636 impacts on humans, and on the other animals on the planet. 209 00:14:15,636 --> 00:14:18,803 (somber string music) 210 00:14:19,930 --> 00:14:23,790 - To a certain extent, people who really do understand 211 00:14:23,790 --> 00:14:27,754 the problem of climate change and resources and equity, 212 00:14:27,754 --> 00:14:31,460 it's really easy to get focused on the miracle technology 213 00:14:31,460 --> 00:14:34,478 solution to that because that's what we do, 214 00:14:34,478 --> 00:14:36,643 that's what society's asking us to do. 215 00:14:39,556 --> 00:14:40,860 - I think if technology could have 216 00:14:40,860 --> 00:14:42,030 solved all of our problems 217 00:14:42,030 --> 00:14:44,930 then it would have already solved all of our problems. 218 00:14:44,930 --> 00:14:47,090 Theoretically we already have all of the technology 219 00:14:47,090 --> 00:14:50,590 we need to live beautifully on earth and beautifully 220 00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:53,891 with each other, but we have not lived 221 00:14:53,891 --> 00:14:57,582 beautifully on earth and beautifully with each other 222 00:14:57,582 --> 00:14:59,497 so something else has to happen. 223 00:14:59,497 --> 00:15:02,080 (somber music) 224 00:15:23,339 --> 00:15:25,640 - 100 years from now, every solar panel we build 225 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,739 will be rubbish, it'll be toxic waste, in fact, somewhere, 226 00:15:29,739 --> 00:15:32,620 I hope somebody figures out what to do with it. 227 00:15:32,620 --> 00:15:35,963 Every windmill we build now won't be running anymore. 228 00:15:36,830 --> 00:15:40,050 Hopefully a lot of it'll be recycled, I don't know. 229 00:15:40,050 --> 00:15:43,137 But the carbon we put in the air will still be there. 230 00:15:43,137 --> 00:15:46,424 (somber music) 231 00:15:46,424 --> 00:15:48,070 You're never gonna have air travel with renewables, 232 00:15:48,070 --> 00:15:50,433 you're never gonna have steel with renewables. 233 00:15:51,806 --> 00:15:54,110 You're never gonna have electronics with renewables 234 00:15:54,110 --> 00:15:58,340 'cause you need diesel so making sure 235 00:15:58,340 --> 00:16:01,770 that you leave some diesel for later 236 00:16:01,770 --> 00:16:02,923 is kind of important. 237 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,440 I'm not disillusioned with solar or wind or anything. 238 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:15,390 I know that the substitution of those things for 239 00:16:15,390 --> 00:16:18,040 fossil fuels isn't possible, 240 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,380 so as long as we keep telling ourselves the story 241 00:16:20,380 --> 00:16:22,510 that it is, we aren't actually doing the thing 242 00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:24,670 we have to do which is to just leave the stuff in 243 00:16:24,670 --> 00:16:26,920 the ground, which means what, there's only one thing 244 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,900 you can do then, which is to use less of it. 245 00:16:29,900 --> 00:16:32,483 (somber music) 246 00:16:33,740 --> 00:16:36,110 If there's an industrial civilization out there 247 00:16:36,110 --> 00:16:40,200 a couple centuries from now, then... 248 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,593 They're using fossil fuel. 249 00:16:42,770 --> 00:16:43,870 Tiny amounts of it. 250 00:16:43,870 --> 00:16:46,520 And they're using renewable energy 251 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,630 and that renewable energy they are using 252 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:51,403 is hydro and geothermal. 253 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,220 And wood that they are harvesting and husbanding 254 00:16:57,220 --> 00:17:00,840 very, very carefully and what we notice most 255 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,840 about them is how little they're using of most everything. 256 00:17:08,350 --> 00:17:10,720 That's what has to happen, it doesn't matter 257 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,610 how many solar panels you ever put on anything. 258 00:17:13,610 --> 00:17:16,150 The only thing that matters is leaving the coal 259 00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:18,642 in the ground, leaving the oil in the ground, 260 00:17:18,642 --> 00:17:20,070 leaving the gas in the ground, all of it 261 00:17:20,070 --> 00:17:23,630 and planting back every bit of forest that you possibly can. 262 00:17:23,630 --> 00:17:26,078 That's the only thing that matters. 263 00:17:26,078 --> 00:17:28,661 (somber music) 264 00:17:38,602 --> 00:17:41,788 - The history of civilization 265 00:17:41,788 --> 00:17:46,788 has been kind of like a history of an increasing power 266 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,480 to dominate and control the other, 267 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,230 the cultural other and also the natural other. 268 00:17:53,230 --> 00:17:55,980 (frenetic music) 269 00:18:31,889 --> 00:18:35,303 And this was supposed to bring us into utopia. 270 00:18:35,303 --> 00:18:37,773 We were supposed to live in paradise by now, 271 00:18:39,033 --> 00:18:41,170 a paradise of electrified comfort, robot servants, 272 00:18:41,170 --> 00:18:44,610 space colonies, artificial food, infinite lifespans, 273 00:18:44,610 --> 00:18:46,270 et cetera, et cetera. 274 00:18:46,270 --> 00:18:49,630 The breakdown that's happening today in part is happening 275 00:18:49,630 --> 00:18:53,510 because this glorious promise of technology 276 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:57,485 and also social engineering was never fulfilled 277 00:18:57,485 --> 00:18:59,900 and in fact things are getting worse and worse 278 00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:03,410 and in fact our technologies of control 279 00:19:03,410 --> 00:19:07,013 now look to be seeding our destruction. 280 00:19:09,729 --> 00:19:13,113 The breakdown of the ecological basis of civilization. 281 00:19:13,113 --> 00:19:15,696 (somber music) 282 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:27,470 We don't know anymore what the answer is. 283 00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:29,070 We don't know who we are. 284 00:19:29,070 --> 00:19:32,580 We don't even know what's real because on every level, 285 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:36,153 the story that answered those questions is breaking down, 286 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:41,300 politically, economically and especially technologically 287 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:44,610 and in our relationship to nature so that leaves us 288 00:19:44,610 --> 00:19:49,610 not knowing and it leaves us open to another story. 289 00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:52,272 (somber music) 290 00:20:18,048 --> 00:20:20,715 (hopeful music) 291 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:36,360 - If we want to solve health crisis, food quality issues, 292 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,657 economic issues, we really have to change the system 293 00:20:43,657 --> 00:20:46,160 and the infrastructure of the system and we have to create 294 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,846 our own infrastructure. 295 00:20:47,846 --> 00:20:50,596 (cheerful music) 296 00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:01,050 I've been studying sustainable farming systems 297 00:21:01,050 --> 00:21:03,120 for over 25 years. 298 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:07,830 There are no real issues, we can solve all of them. 299 00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:11,980 There are really easy answers to grow food quality 300 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:14,980 and do that with good environmental care. 301 00:21:14,980 --> 00:21:16,073 That's the easy bit. 302 00:21:19,870 --> 00:21:23,860 We are in the position to do it properly 303 00:21:23,860 --> 00:21:28,060 because of the CSA, our members allow us to create 304 00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:32,340 that diversity, that other old system doesn't allow 305 00:21:32,340 --> 00:21:34,393 you to create that diversity. 306 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,833 - CSA stands for community supported agriculture. 307 00:21:43,662 --> 00:21:47,600 It means that a farmer starts growing food 308 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,820 and growing food, there's a lot of unknowns in there 309 00:21:51,820 --> 00:21:53,597 and you have to start at the beginning of the season 310 00:21:53,597 --> 00:21:56,733 and you don't know for whatever reason if you're gonna 311 00:21:56,733 --> 00:21:59,930 harvest all the things that you plan to harvest, 312 00:21:59,930 --> 00:22:02,983 that you started sowing months back. 313 00:22:07,838 --> 00:22:10,278 So the idea is that a group of people support a farmer 314 00:22:10,278 --> 00:22:13,153 so the farmer knows he's got an outlet. 315 00:22:14,340 --> 00:22:18,730 And the members that we have, they know that every week 316 00:22:18,730 --> 00:22:21,100 they're gonna get a box of healthy fresh foods 317 00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:24,023 that have been harvested just before they got them. 318 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:31,107 For us it means we have stability in the fact that 319 00:22:31,107 --> 00:22:34,570 the plants we sow, that they are sold. 320 00:22:34,570 --> 00:22:38,350 We don't have the issue of food waste. 321 00:22:38,350 --> 00:22:41,540 Because if a broccoli is small and it normally wouldn't 322 00:22:41,540 --> 00:22:44,453 be able to go to a supermarket, we can give people two. 323 00:22:46,641 --> 00:22:49,391 (cheerful music) 324 00:22:52,090 --> 00:22:55,230 - As a farmer, you want to create healthy soils 325 00:22:55,230 --> 00:22:58,460 and healthy plants and healthy animals and further up 326 00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:02,855 the food chain, you make sure that you create a soil 327 00:23:02,855 --> 00:23:06,582 that invites the right sets of microbes. 328 00:23:06,582 --> 00:23:09,332 (cheerful music) 329 00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:15,840 That for us means we have soil which is the mineral 330 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,360 component, in the soil we've got the microorganisms 331 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,670 which are governing the system, we just create 332 00:23:22,670 --> 00:23:25,810 a habitat for them, then you got the plants growing 333 00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:29,579 out of there, be it annuals, perennials, and trees. 334 00:23:29,579 --> 00:23:32,329 (cheerful music) 335 00:23:34,476 --> 00:23:37,590 Then amongst that you've got the insects living in there 336 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:42,590 and then we've incorporated pigs, sheep, cows, ducks, 337 00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:49,090 geese, and I'm sure we're forgetting a few bits and bobs 338 00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:52,118 and every single item adds value. 339 00:23:52,118 --> 00:23:54,868 (cheerful music) 340 00:24:00,234 --> 00:24:03,560 - So on the closed loop systems they will have tree crops 341 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,110 and all that, nuts, fruit, that kind of thing 342 00:24:06,110 --> 00:24:09,003 happening on the fringes or in shelter belts. 343 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,970 A whole really diverse approach to farming 344 00:24:14,970 --> 00:24:19,151 that is way more sustainable but also it closes 345 00:24:19,151 --> 00:24:22,350 that nitrogen, that fertilizer loop 346 00:24:22,350 --> 00:24:25,508 so you don't have to bring it in from the outside. 347 00:24:25,508 --> 00:24:27,050 You just don't waste it. 348 00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:29,800 (cheerful music) 349 00:24:37,030 --> 00:24:41,160 - While eating less meat is a really important thing to do 350 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,040 it's important to recognize that you can't have 351 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,973 a healthy ecosystem without animals. 352 00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:50,040 A truly environmentally friendly 353 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,130 and ecologically healthy food production system 354 00:24:53,130 --> 00:24:55,680 must have animals because when you take animals out 355 00:24:56,798 --> 00:24:59,390 of that system, all the jobs that those animals did 356 00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:01,590 in that functioning ecosystem now needs to be done 357 00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:05,673 some other way, whether that's by people or chemicals. 358 00:25:07,850 --> 00:25:12,360 The health of these food production system is supported by 359 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:15,670 the natural and healthy interaction between plants 360 00:25:15,670 --> 00:25:20,237 and animals and that can take the form of pest control, 361 00:25:20,237 --> 00:25:24,957 fertility cycles, there's lots of interactions 362 00:25:24,957 --> 00:25:29,957 between animals and plants which we can and should use to 363 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,913 support a healthy and resilient food production system. 364 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:39,060 So really what that boils down to is we need to eat 365 00:25:39,060 --> 00:25:43,320 less meat, we don't cut it out, but the best thing 366 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,078 that anyone can do is try and find producers that are 367 00:25:48,078 --> 00:25:50,640 operating systems which are looking after 368 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,220 the health of their environment, including the animals 369 00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:54,220 and supporting them. 370 00:25:55,198 --> 00:25:57,698 (eerie music) 371 00:26:08,913 --> 00:26:11,663 (cheerful music) 372 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,207 - What comes out the back end of a worm is really good stuff 373 00:26:23,208 --> 00:26:24,548 and then it's just really cool just seeing 374 00:26:24,548 --> 00:26:29,300 this high field of fungus and it's just growing 375 00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:31,988 on the surface of the soil. 376 00:26:31,988 --> 00:26:34,738 (cheerful music) 377 00:26:40,546 --> 00:26:42,380 And so holistic grazing is a management technique that's 378 00:26:42,380 --> 00:26:45,620 been devised by a Zimbabwean man, Alan Savory, 379 00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:49,830 and he was observing the large herds of buffalo 380 00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:51,840 in Africa and the bison in north America 381 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,580 and just massive herds of ruminant animals 382 00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:58,210 and these animals were constantly on the move 383 00:26:58,210 --> 00:27:00,700 'cause there's generally some lions or something 384 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:03,310 just on their back and wanting to pick off any 385 00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:04,373 of the weak ones. 386 00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:09,470 We have large amounts of cattle that are shifted 387 00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:12,620 every day but instead of lions keeping them 388 00:27:12,620 --> 00:27:15,046 bunched together, we have electric fences 389 00:27:15,046 --> 00:27:18,780 and each day they're going to fresh grass 390 00:27:18,780 --> 00:27:21,870 and it's long grass and so they're not eating it all. 391 00:27:21,870 --> 00:27:23,550 Some of it's getting trampled and with the dung 392 00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:26,420 and urine and that, that's just all forming 393 00:27:26,420 --> 00:27:29,383 that kind of compost heap on the ground. 394 00:27:32,930 --> 00:27:34,260 Other farms might be looking at us and saying, 395 00:27:34,260 --> 00:27:35,970 well, you're just wasting all that grass 396 00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:38,210 'cause it's dry and stalky and what have you, 397 00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:42,530 but my reply is that waste is a human concept. 398 00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:47,480 Nature doesn't do waste and so we're using that pasture 399 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,523 as part of our first fertilizer program 400 00:27:50,523 --> 00:27:51,710 because that's what's getting put down on the soil 401 00:27:51,710 --> 00:27:54,827 and broken down and going back into the soil. 402 00:27:54,827 --> 00:27:57,577 (cheerful music) 403 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,680 When the grass is grazed and with the holistic long grazing 404 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,050 system, it gets cut off short by the animal 405 00:28:09,050 --> 00:28:11,827 and it also sheds its roots at that time 406 00:28:11,827 --> 00:28:14,993 and that's what is releasing carbon into the soil. 407 00:28:17,330 --> 00:28:18,950 And I guess one of the most exciting things 408 00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:21,440 and drivers of what we're doing is the potential 409 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,010 that that has for... 410 00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:26,061 For helping with climate change issues. 411 00:28:26,061 --> 00:28:28,811 (cheerful music) 412 00:28:31,874 --> 00:28:33,200 Some of those CAFOs that they call 'em in America 413 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,010 or the feed lot, cattle fattening operations, 414 00:28:36,010 --> 00:28:39,276 are a climate disaster, but again, 415 00:28:39,276 --> 00:28:43,250 under this system, they are sequestering more carbon 416 00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:46,793 and are part of a natural cycle that is actually beneficial. 417 00:28:51,767 --> 00:28:53,350 Conventionally farmers, it's all about 418 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:54,520 keeping the grass short 419 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,690 in a vegetative state so it's growing vigorously, 420 00:28:57,690 --> 00:29:01,020 and that system works while you put on lots of 421 00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:03,780 imported fertilizers, particularly phosphate fertilizers 422 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:07,320 largely from North Africa and a whole system that requires 423 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,740 digging up that fertilizer and tracking it and then 424 00:29:09,740 --> 00:29:11,987 shipping it and then tracking it and then processing it 425 00:29:11,987 --> 00:29:13,350 and then flying it. 426 00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:16,762 On the whole it's a system that's not going to work and... 427 00:29:16,762 --> 00:29:19,293 In a future with less fossil fuels. 428 00:29:20,412 --> 00:29:23,162 (cheerful music) 429 00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:28,490 What we're doing at the farm here is trying to reduce 430 00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:31,290 the amount of fossil fuel that it takes to produce food. 431 00:29:33,842 --> 00:29:36,543 We've got the cattle going around, we have hens following 432 00:29:36,543 --> 00:29:40,150 along behind the cattle, there's pigs on this farm too 433 00:29:40,150 --> 00:29:43,760 and we're milking a few dairy cows and all that 434 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,760 is really about using a perennial crop like grass, pasture 435 00:29:49,620 --> 00:29:52,360 with forage from trees and that around as well 436 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,180 so we can produce eggs from the chooks and pork 437 00:29:57,180 --> 00:30:01,070 without relying on so much of the annual grains 438 00:30:01,070 --> 00:30:03,740 and all the energy that's involved in producing them 439 00:30:03,740 --> 00:30:07,830 so just trying to get the fossil fuels out of our 440 00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:11,330 food system as much as we can and producing 441 00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:12,840 healthy, natural food. 442 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,590 (cheerful music) 443 00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:21,030 - The powerful thing is that with regenerative agriculture 444 00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:23,660 we can not only produce food and we can not only produce 445 00:30:23,660 --> 00:30:26,840 an abundance of food, but we can do it in a way that 446 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,800 regenerates the land, that replenishes the aquifers, 447 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,410 that sequesters carbon, 448 00:30:32,410 --> 00:30:34,513 that nurtures and supports biodiversity. 449 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,630 Regenerative agriculture, permaculture, holistic management, 450 00:30:41,630 --> 00:30:43,943 there's nothing magical about the way that these things work 451 00:30:43,943 --> 00:30:48,710 It's all based upon sound science and about having 452 00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:52,420 a point of view that is looking at your ecosystem 453 00:30:52,420 --> 00:30:56,280 in its entirety, not just individual aspects of it. 454 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,140 So really what this breaks down to is that anyone 455 00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:02,620 who's looking after land, whether you're a farmer, 456 00:31:02,620 --> 00:31:06,819 a gardener, whatever, you're an ecosystem manager. 457 00:31:06,819 --> 00:31:09,402 (gentle music) 458 00:31:28,510 --> 00:31:31,550 - My philosophy about what to do in the world 459 00:31:31,550 --> 00:31:34,740 isn't to go to a pristine area and live there 460 00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:38,910 and enjoy your life, it's to find a place that's degraded 461 00:31:38,910 --> 00:31:39,823 and fix it up. 462 00:31:41,101 --> 00:31:43,684 (gentle music) 463 00:31:46,450 --> 00:31:48,940 - 23 years ago we started developing the food forest 464 00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:49,773 system here. 465 00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:55,410 We've got 480 different species of plant at last count. 466 00:31:55,410 --> 00:31:57,790 That doesn't include the 80 different types of apples 467 00:31:57,790 --> 00:32:00,570 and the 60 different types of gooseberries 468 00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:02,323 and it's lovely to have that diversity 469 00:32:02,323 --> 00:32:06,001 and it means that every time there's things flowering, 470 00:32:06,001 --> 00:32:09,310 things giving fruit, you know, fruit crops you can eat 471 00:32:09,310 --> 00:32:11,447 and so having diversity's special and that's what makes 472 00:32:11,447 --> 00:32:13,353 a forest garden resilient. 473 00:32:14,257 --> 00:32:16,840 (gentle music) 474 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,680 This property had been abandoned for probably 40 years, 475 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,543 no one lived here, an old house had burned down on the spot. 476 00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:32,200 - And the top area, this area where the house is now was 477 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,843 completely covered in junk and the remains of the old house. 478 00:32:36,843 --> 00:32:40,092 Most people would have not even crossed the threshold 479 00:32:40,092 --> 00:32:42,880 of the property to have a look at that, I don't think, 480 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,937 because it doesn't look very appealing but to us it did 481 00:32:45,937 --> 00:32:49,020 because I thought, well for one thing, nobody wants it 482 00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:52,000 so it's probably going to be cheap and it was, 483 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,558 cheap to buy and secondly I thought I can fix this. 484 00:32:55,558 --> 00:32:58,141 (gentle music) 485 00:32:59,841 --> 00:33:02,820 - A food forest is a permanent planting, 486 00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:05,150 so you want to set up just a like a fire system, 487 00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:08,567 so a fire system can always be the big trees 488 00:33:08,567 --> 00:33:10,670 and the middle sized trees and the bottom layer, 489 00:33:10,670 --> 00:33:13,830 the ground layer, they work together, some plants 490 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:15,840 cap some minerals and give others back 491 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,413 and another one does something else. 492 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,240 - Growing out in the forest garden, aside from the native 493 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,250 trees which I used as a framework or a platform 494 00:33:27,250 --> 00:33:29,800 for building everything else and those provide me 495 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,730 with shelter from the wind and also nest sites 496 00:33:32,730 --> 00:33:36,440 for the birds and the birds are a really important player 497 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,860 in the management of the garden and the cork 498 00:33:38,860 --> 00:33:42,038 or the cabbage trees that I've got growing there 499 00:33:42,038 --> 00:33:44,750 and the starlings nest in almost all of them 500 00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:47,440 and those starlings as they're feeding their youngers, 501 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,060 their babies, are flying out and finding any soft bodied 502 00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:54,219 caterpillar or grub they can so there's our pest management 503 00:33:54,219 --> 00:33:56,052 or that kind of thing. 504 00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:01,476 And then as an understory or the second layer down to that 505 00:34:01,476 --> 00:34:03,800 we have our fruit tree layer which is our heritage apples 506 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,783 and pears and plums and nectarines and peaches, apricots. 507 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,500 And then below that a layer of berry fruits and currants, 508 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:17,900 red currants, black currants, white currants, gooseberries, 509 00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:21,027 woosterberries, all of those sorts of shrubby... 510 00:34:22,890 --> 00:34:25,053 Plants that like to grow in the semi shade. 511 00:34:27,090 --> 00:34:31,250 And then wrapping around all of that are the biennial 512 00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:33,710 and perennial herbs, some of which are edible, 513 00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:36,081 some of which are medicinal, and then below that 514 00:34:36,081 --> 00:34:41,081 there are bulbs and root crops that grow such as parsnips 515 00:34:42,057 --> 00:34:46,160 and wild carrots, those kinds of things 516 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,950 and then winding their way up through these things 517 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:51,760 are vines like grape vines and kiwi fruit 518 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,270 and mint and gooseberries and hops and all sorts 519 00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:57,830 of things which kind of bind everything together 520 00:34:57,830 --> 00:35:00,669 and tie the forest together. 521 00:35:00,669 --> 00:35:03,252 (gentle music) 522 00:35:06,030 --> 00:35:08,540 - That's so peaceful when you walk about. 523 00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:11,610 It's just all different flowers and the energy in action, 524 00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:13,970 all the insects and the birds have their own life 525 00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:16,477 and so the birds are doing all their thing up in the trees 526 00:35:16,477 --> 00:35:17,340 and coming down and feeding and the insects 527 00:35:17,340 --> 00:35:20,000 are flying around and having babies 528 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,510 and flying off on missions. 529 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:25,441 It's like being in an another universe, really, 530 00:35:25,441 --> 00:35:27,680 it's just amazing, it's to me how life should be 531 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,483 with livingness and interconnectedness, 532 00:35:29,483 --> 00:35:31,993 all the plants and the bees and the herbs. 533 00:35:32,961 --> 00:35:35,660 (gentle music) 534 00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:39,550 - In a forest garden like ours, the major player is 535 00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:42,247 wildness, is, you know, the natural world 536 00:35:42,247 --> 00:35:44,400 and all those things that happen in there 537 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,140 and my job is just to kind of mold that to suit our purposes 538 00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:50,163 to a certain extent. 539 00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:56,630 We are not separate from the world. 540 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:59,343 We are as wild as it is. 541 00:36:00,619 --> 00:36:04,840 But we've worked towards a form that is not fitting in 542 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,750 with the wild world at all well 543 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:10,990 and it's going to realign us fairly soon 544 00:36:10,990 --> 00:36:14,230 in my view unless we can recognize 545 00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:18,598 that we need to be fully integrated into that world. 546 00:36:18,598 --> 00:36:21,181 (gentle music) 547 00:36:29,570 --> 00:36:32,257 - People in indigenous societies and tribal societies 548 00:36:32,257 --> 00:36:37,257 or in agrarian villages, they were enmeshed in 549 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,090 a matrix of relationship that gave them a strong identity. 550 00:36:42,090 --> 00:36:44,870 Everybody who they saw on a daily basis 551 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:46,193 knew them really well. 552 00:36:49,690 --> 00:36:53,670 And we also were in intimate connection with the land, 553 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:56,460 we knew every plant, every animal, every bird, 554 00:36:56,460 --> 00:36:59,740 we knew its song and when it sang and what bugs it ate 555 00:36:59,740 --> 00:37:02,430 and where those bugs lived and what the soil smells like 556 00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:04,350 where the bugs live and what plants grow there 557 00:37:04,350 --> 00:37:06,310 and what medicine plants are used for. 558 00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:09,433 We were in this web of inter-being. 559 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,323 We felt as if we were at home in the universe. 560 00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:18,930 That is missing in our current society. 561 00:37:18,930 --> 00:37:22,462 We're surrounded by a sea of strangers, people that we know 562 00:37:22,462 --> 00:37:25,278 only very superficially, if at all. 563 00:37:25,278 --> 00:37:27,778 (eerie music) 564 00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:39,887 - For Maori people, the ancestors and the land 565 00:37:39,887 --> 00:37:43,243 are all part of one, we come from the land. 566 00:37:43,243 --> 00:37:48,080 And most people, humans on the planet relate to land 567 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,365 one way or another because they belong to it 568 00:37:50,365 --> 00:37:53,200 and they forge their own identity out of it as well 569 00:37:54,122 --> 00:37:56,053 and that will always continue to happen. 570 00:37:58,318 --> 00:38:01,850 It's like a biological bond between a mother and a child. 571 00:38:01,850 --> 00:38:03,590 You can't break it. 572 00:38:03,590 --> 00:38:08,197 That bond is enforced with the genealogy of the ancestors, 573 00:38:08,197 --> 00:38:12,280 the families, grandparents, there's emotion stored 574 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,341 in that person that they feel they belong here. 575 00:38:15,341 --> 00:38:18,091 (acoustic music) 576 00:38:24,381 --> 00:38:26,830 - Interbeing is a very natural term, it means more 577 00:38:26,830 --> 00:38:30,264 than interconnection or interdependency, which kind of 578 00:38:30,264 --> 00:38:34,100 suggests separate selves having relationships. 579 00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,930 Interbeing is more of an understanding that we are 580 00:38:36,930 --> 00:38:41,930 relationship, that my very existence depends or draws from 581 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,923 or includes your existence. 582 00:38:43,923 --> 00:38:46,810 (people laugh) 583 00:38:46,810 --> 00:38:49,725 My wellbeing is intimately connected to your wellbeing 584 00:38:49,725 --> 00:38:53,964 or to the wellbeing of the river, the ocean, 585 00:38:53,964 --> 00:38:58,450 the forest, people across the world and so forth 586 00:38:58,450 --> 00:39:00,500 because I'm not really separate from you. 587 00:39:03,020 --> 00:39:06,090 And that means that in the story of inter being, 588 00:39:06,090 --> 00:39:08,830 I know that whatever I do to the world 589 00:39:08,830 --> 00:39:10,703 will come back to me somehow. 590 00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:16,550 So if our true being is the totality of our relationships 591 00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:20,629 and includes everything in the cosmos, if we are truly 592 00:39:20,629 --> 00:39:25,350 maybe a holographic mirror of all that is, 593 00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:30,350 then when we cut ourselves off from any aspect of nature, 594 00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:34,083 other people, we create a wound, we create a cutoff 595 00:39:34,083 --> 00:39:39,083 and this is painful and we yearn to recover our wholeness. 596 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:47,720 However, due to ideology, due to the economic system 597 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:50,960 that we're immersed in, due to cultural factors, 598 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,163 due to many, many, many reasons, 599 00:39:54,090 --> 00:39:56,621 the reunion that we long for 600 00:39:56,621 --> 00:39:58,793 is unavailable to us. 601 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,160 That is good for business because it drives consumerism, 602 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,020 it drives acquisitiveness, it drives greed, 603 00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:09,410 it drives all kinds of neurotic behaviors 604 00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:13,384 that seek to compensate for the missing relationships. 605 00:40:13,384 --> 00:40:16,134 (acoustic music) 606 00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:30,980 - I felt myself being drawn into this materialistic world 607 00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:33,390 because all the people that were around me 608 00:40:33,390 --> 00:40:36,740 had material possessions and there was this wanting 609 00:40:36,740 --> 00:40:39,510 and creating of attachment and wanting and wanting 610 00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:42,033 more stuff so I sort of got swept into that in a way. 611 00:40:42,033 --> 00:40:44,783 (acoustic music) 612 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,970 So yeah, I studied business and I was involved in finance 613 00:40:52,970 --> 00:40:55,270 and more specifically the stock market, so we used 614 00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:59,160 to help people manage their money and... 615 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,470 One of the organizations I worked with, we used to manage 616 00:41:02,470 --> 00:41:05,260 hundreds of millions of dollars for people. 617 00:41:05,260 --> 00:41:09,210 I wasn't from that background, from sort of a conservative 618 00:41:09,210 --> 00:41:13,060 sort of upbringing, then all of a sudden, I'm involved with 619 00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:16,390 guys that are driving luxury cars and living in expensive 620 00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:20,823 house in Sidney suburbs, it's sort of a bit overwhelming. 621 00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:24,410 A lot of the guys that I had worked with, 622 00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:26,653 they were multimillionaires, 623 00:41:27,740 --> 00:41:30,820 but 20 million wasn't enough, so they have to have 624 00:41:30,820 --> 00:41:34,790 the three cars, they have to have the holiday home, 625 00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:38,890 they have to have a boat and what happens is you can get 626 00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:41,050 trapped in that lifestyle, hey. 627 00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:43,800 (acoustic music) 628 00:41:47,550 --> 00:41:51,160 So the idea is to, you know, have... 629 00:41:52,030 --> 00:41:54,450 Native plants mixed among fruit trees 630 00:41:54,450 --> 00:41:57,770 so we've got natives here, we've got a tamarilo here, 631 00:41:57,770 --> 00:42:01,020 we've got minook and canook are in and piss borns, 632 00:42:01,020 --> 00:42:04,600 natives, we've got a cabbage tree here. 633 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,326 This is a pine nut, so those really expensive nuts 634 00:42:08,326 --> 00:42:11,530 you get in the supermarket, this is one of those. 635 00:42:11,530 --> 00:42:14,360 It takes about 10 years to get any fruit on it 636 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,300 or any nuts, so that's a longterm project 637 00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:22,010 and then over here we've got a fig tree which is fruiting 638 00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:26,330 quite nicely and then for the monarch butterflies 639 00:42:26,330 --> 00:42:30,170 we've got a couple of swan plants which they really enjoy 640 00:42:30,170 --> 00:42:34,683 and we might be lucky to see one, here he comes now. 641 00:42:36,314 --> 00:42:39,150 It was only after Beth, my wife and I, made the move 642 00:42:39,150 --> 00:42:42,192 to New Zealand, we'd just had enough of the whole 643 00:42:42,192 --> 00:42:47,192 corporate life and we wanted a slower, simpler lifestyle. 644 00:42:47,390 --> 00:42:50,540 It was then the realization sort of hit home, 645 00:42:50,540 --> 00:42:54,100 I started to research more, read, you know, hundreds 646 00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:57,020 of articles and watched hundreds of documentaries 647 00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:59,780 and all sorts of stuff, then I started to really understand, 648 00:42:59,780 --> 00:43:02,945 well, wow, we've got some serious issues here 649 00:43:02,945 --> 00:43:05,300 and no one's really talking about this stuff 650 00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:07,823 and it's quite scary. 651 00:43:11,370 --> 00:43:16,330 I guess with realization of some of the broader issues 652 00:43:16,330 --> 00:43:20,765 such as climate change, peak oil, the resource depletion 653 00:43:20,765 --> 00:43:24,069 and the extinction crisis we're currently going through 654 00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:27,950 it's sort of like it's these massive issues 655 00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:31,430 have been given lip services by governments 656 00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:35,850 and organizations and it's like, aw, it just won't happen 657 00:43:35,850 --> 00:43:38,540 or the system'll solve this problem 658 00:43:38,540 --> 00:43:40,383 and that's what it sort of feels like. 659 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,853 So I guess that brings up a lot of emotions like 660 00:43:44,853 --> 00:43:48,490 frustration and anger and guilt and it's like 661 00:43:48,490 --> 00:43:50,740 why isn't someone doing something about this? 662 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,930 Here we go, here's strawberries, here's strawberries. 663 00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:55,810 So here's a nice one, I can, look at the color 664 00:43:55,810 --> 00:43:56,643 on that thing. 665 00:43:57,770 --> 00:44:01,160 Then I started to research permaculture and realized that 666 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,832 it was an integrated approach to how we're living 667 00:44:04,832 --> 00:44:08,100 so at the moment, our current society, 668 00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:10,400 it's a fragmented approach to living 669 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,560 so everything is compartmentalized or separated, 670 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,730 whereas permaculture is a holistic approach 671 00:44:15,730 --> 00:44:16,730 to how we're living. 672 00:44:19,650 --> 00:44:23,310 It integrates food, environment, with your lifestyle 673 00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:27,470 and taking care of people, the planet and 674 00:44:27,470 --> 00:44:28,993 the natural resources. 675 00:44:31,860 --> 00:44:34,410 So a lot of people come over to our property 676 00:44:34,410 --> 00:44:36,832 and have a look around, they go what about 677 00:44:36,832 --> 00:44:39,220 all your fruit trees, do you get pests and stuff 678 00:44:39,220 --> 00:44:41,290 like birds that eat them, and I say yeah, sure, 679 00:44:41,290 --> 00:44:43,250 but we don't mind that, they were here first 680 00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:47,830 and we're a part of nature and we have comments 681 00:44:47,830 --> 00:44:50,365 from other people that live around near us 682 00:44:50,365 --> 00:44:53,330 on the farms and they say I can't believe how much 683 00:44:53,330 --> 00:44:56,660 wildlife and bird life is here and their properties, 684 00:44:56,660 --> 00:45:01,550 just a few hundred meters away have almost no 685 00:45:01,550 --> 00:45:02,730 wildlife or bird life. 686 00:45:02,730 --> 00:45:05,480 (acoustic music) 687 00:45:18,190 --> 00:45:21,934 So, we're attracting bird life and wildlife 688 00:45:21,934 --> 00:45:25,031 through just letting nature be as opposed to just 689 00:45:25,031 --> 00:45:26,131 wanting to control it. 690 00:45:29,233 --> 00:45:33,600 Permaculture links into other aspects like collaboration, 691 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,950 localization, food resiliency and networking, 692 00:45:37,950 --> 00:45:40,410 so it's not just about growing food, 693 00:45:40,410 --> 00:45:42,535 it's about connecting a whole system 694 00:45:42,535 --> 00:45:45,453 and integrating a whole system into one's life. 695 00:45:47,530 --> 00:45:51,713 This lifestyle working on the land and doing permaculture 696 00:45:51,713 --> 00:45:54,593 feels more rewarding and like I'm putting something back. 697 00:45:55,550 --> 00:45:58,590 We also live a less consumerist lifestyle, 698 00:45:58,590 --> 00:46:02,530 so we don't need as much stuff, so I haven't got 699 00:46:02,530 --> 00:46:05,030 this constant craving for more and more things 700 00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:07,663 to make me feel satisfied or happy. 701 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,015 So there you have it, we have homegrown salad, 702 00:46:13,015 --> 00:46:16,412 fruit salad, a green salad and some eggs 703 00:46:16,412 --> 00:46:20,980 and I can't believe still that... 704 00:46:20,980 --> 00:46:22,480 I don't have to go to a supermarket, 705 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,080 we've grown all this ourselves in just three years. 706 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,893 I'm still amazed, so anyone can do it. 707 00:46:30,366 --> 00:46:33,116 (acoustic music) 708 00:46:37,655 --> 00:46:39,895 When I was living in big cities, 709 00:46:39,895 --> 00:46:43,200 it was like I had to get away to connect with nature, 710 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,820 but when I wake up every morning, I come outside 711 00:46:45,820 --> 00:46:48,215 and I'm immediately in nature here. 712 00:46:48,215 --> 00:46:50,350 I don't have that void anymore. 713 00:46:50,350 --> 00:46:54,320 I've just got this instant connection and satisfaction. 714 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,532 It's hard to explain. 715 00:46:55,532 --> 00:46:58,115 (gentle music) 716 00:47:02,006 --> 00:47:04,800 - I mean, maybe you've had this experience, feeling like 717 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,975 I'm not living my life. 718 00:47:06,975 --> 00:47:08,910 I'm living the life I'm paid to live, 719 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:10,163 but what about my life? 720 00:47:11,470 --> 00:47:16,470 So this is a different dimension of human nature that... 721 00:47:16,930 --> 00:47:20,330 We need to invoke, we need to... 722 00:47:21,230 --> 00:47:23,240 Implement, we need to create conditions 723 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,072 for that part of human nature to blossom. 724 00:47:26,072 --> 00:47:28,822 (acoustic music) 725 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,320 - We had been living in Caty Caty and I was... 726 00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:45,900 Working... 727 00:47:46,871 --> 00:47:50,720 A regular job as a GP in the practice there 728 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:53,088 and then I just found these kind of warning signs 729 00:47:53,088 --> 00:47:55,200 that I was started to get out of balance. 730 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,900 I'd be lovely with my patients, but I'd come home 731 00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:58,730 and be kinda shitty, I... 732 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,333 Was feeling quite depressed. 733 00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:04,560 Just kind of the internal... 734 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,045 Cogs weren't running together very well. 735 00:48:09,045 --> 00:48:10,460 And... 736 00:48:10,460 --> 00:48:12,642 We started talking about it and thought, well, 737 00:48:12,642 --> 00:48:13,830 maybe we really need to kinda... 738 00:48:13,830 --> 00:48:16,763 Radically rethink how we want to live. 739 00:48:16,763 --> 00:48:19,346 (gentle music) 740 00:48:20,370 --> 00:48:23,120 So the house is 20 square meters. 741 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,163 It started with a sheep shearer's quarters just to the 742 00:48:27,163 --> 00:48:30,787 side of us here and that was maybe 20 years ago 743 00:48:30,787 --> 00:48:34,646 that that was built, so our bedroom is the original cabin 744 00:48:34,646 --> 00:48:39,646 and then this L shaped space is our kitchen, lounge, 745 00:48:40,939 --> 00:48:42,173 library, office. 746 00:48:43,950 --> 00:48:44,913 Day bed. 747 00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:47,723 - Everything. (laughs) 748 00:48:47,723 --> 00:48:48,720 - Everything, yeah. 749 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:49,570 20 square meters. 750 00:48:51,542 --> 00:48:53,280 We've got a shower just adjoining 751 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,940 and a bit of a deck out the back. 752 00:48:55,940 --> 00:48:57,850 A few months ago a friend of mine helped me 753 00:48:57,850 --> 00:49:00,020 put a 300 watt panel up on the roof 754 00:49:00,020 --> 00:49:04,570 and so that powers the broadband and telephone. 755 00:49:04,570 --> 00:49:05,620 And a bit more light. 756 00:49:06,670 --> 00:49:07,990 What else, now we can... 757 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,735 - Use the sewing machine, which is very exciting. 758 00:49:11,735 --> 00:49:14,152 - The sewing machine is good. 759 00:49:16,502 --> 00:49:18,982 A lot of people when they hear about it, they think, 760 00:49:18,982 --> 00:49:20,110 oh my gosh, how is that with the baby 761 00:49:20,110 --> 00:49:22,530 and even before that, how is that just the two of you? 762 00:49:22,530 --> 00:49:25,270 - I think actually it's great with the baby 763 00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:27,677 living in a small space in that... 764 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,990 Wherever she is she's never that far away. 765 00:49:32,676 --> 00:49:36,460 So it's quite easy to be doing whatever I need to be doing 766 00:49:36,460 --> 00:49:40,120 and keeping an eye on her and when she's sleeping, 767 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,160 she'll be close by. 768 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,910 (acoustic music) 769 00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:46,933 - We have... 770 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,840 I don't know the term for it, like a work trade arrangement 771 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,443 with the owners and we've been living here 772 00:49:53,443 --> 00:49:56,086 just over a year so about three or four days a week 773 00:49:56,086 --> 00:50:00,783 I'm on the farm and then part time I work as a GP. 774 00:50:01,820 --> 00:50:03,870 So our costs are... 775 00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:07,390 Fractional to what they were living in town. 776 00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:12,970 I don't have any stress about money which is a huge benefit 777 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,883 Emotionally I'm healthier. 778 00:50:17,741 --> 00:50:20,886 (both laugh) 779 00:50:20,886 --> 00:50:23,636 (acoustic music) 780 00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:30,490 - It was a choice wanting to be... 781 00:50:30,490 --> 00:50:33,928 More immersed in my environment and more directly 782 00:50:33,928 --> 00:50:38,070 connected with my needs, where my food was coming from 783 00:50:38,070 --> 00:50:40,330 and I love going out and seeing the garden each day, 784 00:50:40,330 --> 00:50:42,750 seeing how things have changed and yeah, 785 00:50:42,750 --> 00:50:45,382 it's like having a relationship with a living thing 786 00:50:45,382 --> 00:50:47,465 or lots of living things. 787 00:50:50,110 --> 00:50:53,600 - Regularly tending in the garden, I had this feeling 788 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,600 of almost being in love with the garden. 789 00:50:56,683 --> 00:50:58,253 Which blew me away. 790 00:51:00,830 --> 00:51:04,720 - The future of humanity is to return to that 791 00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,810 relationship to nature and to all beings 792 00:51:07,810 --> 00:51:11,230 and to all human beings too, to fall in love 793 00:51:11,230 --> 00:51:14,333 with the world, its wellbeing is my wellbeing. 794 00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:20,230 If we really were in love with the planet 795 00:51:21,441 --> 00:51:24,716 and incorporated that love into all of our systems, 796 00:51:24,716 --> 00:51:27,510 into our money system, we would not have 797 00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:28,923 an ecological crisis. 798 00:51:32,410 --> 00:51:35,550 - If an economy is operating outside 799 00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:39,310 of ecological limits and the inevitable conclusion 800 00:51:39,310 --> 00:51:42,742 is that it's going to completely erode the resource base 801 00:51:42,742 --> 00:51:44,890 until it... 802 00:51:44,890 --> 00:51:46,363 Implodes or collapses. 803 00:51:48,750 --> 00:51:53,070 So really, the choice that we have is to design and 804 00:51:53,070 --> 00:51:56,550 develop an economy that operates within ecological limits. 805 00:51:56,550 --> 00:51:59,200 That's our only safe bet, that's our only bet at all. 806 00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:05,960 - So if we think about the whole problem of deflation 807 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,140 and what could happen post collapse in a country 808 00:52:10,140 --> 00:52:13,160 that experiences a sudden reversal and this loss 809 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,940 of liquidity where the money supply really really gets 810 00:52:15,940 --> 00:52:20,020 chopped down, people still have needs, people still have 811 00:52:20,020 --> 00:52:21,360 goods and services, they're gonna 812 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,240 find a way to exchange those. 813 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:26,650 What you want is the easiest possible way 814 00:52:26,650 --> 00:52:30,340 to make this happen and this is where alternative currencies 815 00:52:30,340 --> 00:52:33,780 would plug the gap, if a central government 816 00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:37,020 were quick thinking, quick off the mark 817 00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:39,610 and actually had a plan for dealing with this stuff, 818 00:52:39,610 --> 00:52:42,520 they could introduce a new currency, 819 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,620 maybe a parallel currency, maybe a replacement currency 820 00:52:45,620 --> 00:52:48,970 to counteract the disappearance of all the bank money. 821 00:52:48,970 --> 00:52:51,490 That probably won't happen, though, so it's going 822 00:52:51,490 --> 00:52:55,193 to be up to local and regional currencies to fill that void. 823 00:52:56,856 --> 00:52:59,356 (piano music) 824 00:53:04,540 --> 00:53:07,800 - I woke up one morning and jumped out of bed 825 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,650 without even being conscious yet saying, 826 00:53:09,650 --> 00:53:12,060 I'm going to start a local currency. 827 00:53:12,060 --> 00:53:15,680 And I just felt so much joy, there was just like 828 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,293 this energy moving through me. 829 00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:20,560 Loaves stands for local origin 830 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,170 Ashurst voluntary exchange system. 831 00:53:23,170 --> 00:53:25,860 It's one of those acronyms that you fit the words 832 00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:29,000 to the acronym instead of the other way around. 833 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,480 It is meant to be a voucher system that circulates 834 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,910 in Ashhurst and the Bohomona valley 835 00:53:36,099 --> 00:53:39,773 as a voluntary alternative to using money for exchange. 836 00:53:41,230 --> 00:53:42,870 So Loaves is primarily trading 837 00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:44,700 at the Ashhurst Community Market 838 00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:46,990 and we have about a dozen or so businesses 839 00:53:46,990 --> 00:53:48,760 that are accepting it there. 840 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,352 We've got the cheesery, we've got the fudgery, 841 00:53:51,352 --> 00:53:53,930 we have several plant businesses. 842 00:53:53,930 --> 00:53:56,980 We have a business consultant who accepts it outside 843 00:53:56,980 --> 00:54:00,230 of the market and there's half a dozen others 844 00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:01,730 that are accepting it as well. 845 00:54:02,650 --> 00:54:06,228 One of the primary benefits of the currency in my mind 846 00:54:06,228 --> 00:54:09,580 is the awareness raising that goes along with it. 847 00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:12,070 We're after not the currency itself 848 00:54:12,070 --> 00:54:15,010 but the relationships that come out of the currency 849 00:54:15,010 --> 00:54:17,870 so one of the major things is this awareness campaign 850 00:54:17,870 --> 00:54:20,950 around the benefits of buying local, the benefits 851 00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:24,940 of having a commitment between customers and businesses. 852 00:54:24,940 --> 00:54:27,533 Knowing what's available in your own community, 853 00:54:27,533 --> 00:54:30,552 of going to town instead of the city when you need something 854 00:54:30,552 --> 00:54:33,880 of supporting your neighbors and looking to your neighbors 855 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,993 and their businesses as a primary way of meeting your needs. 856 00:54:39,950 --> 00:54:43,679 - The wealth generated by using our local currency, 857 00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:47,293 100% of it stays here, there's no interest 858 00:54:47,293 --> 00:54:50,850 and it just keeps circulating and recirculating 859 00:54:50,850 --> 00:54:52,163 in the local community. 860 00:54:53,310 --> 00:54:55,200 And rather than... 861 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,893 Being considered in competition with the national money, 862 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,303 it's actually complimentary to it. 863 00:55:03,773 --> 00:55:06,210 (gentle music) 864 00:55:06,210 --> 00:55:08,552 - So you strengthen these local connections, 865 00:55:08,552 --> 00:55:12,011 of course, that's a very resilient thing to do 866 00:55:12,011 --> 00:55:14,350 because it just means that if things are rough, 867 00:55:14,350 --> 00:55:17,792 you've got friends, neighbors and people in your region 868 00:55:17,792 --> 00:55:20,573 that are able to help one another out. 869 00:55:23,955 --> 00:55:26,755 Timebanking is a very interesting development in that 870 00:55:26,755 --> 00:55:31,755 it uses a very egalitarian basis, it says everybody's time 871 00:55:32,936 --> 00:55:36,850 is equal, it doesn't matter how skilled you are 872 00:55:36,850 --> 00:55:39,310 or what your qualifications are or what you do 873 00:55:39,310 --> 00:55:42,290 for your day job, that your hour is worth the same 874 00:55:42,290 --> 00:55:43,672 as my hour. 875 00:55:43,672 --> 00:55:46,339 (idyllic music) 876 00:56:03,820 --> 00:56:07,740 - I'm Maria Li from Te Mahi Kai at Diamond Harbor School. 877 00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:10,163 Which is a gardening to cooking program. 878 00:56:11,370 --> 00:56:15,210 So we teach the children how to grow everything themselves 879 00:56:15,210 --> 00:56:19,019 and they plant the seeds and then look after the garden 880 00:56:19,019 --> 00:56:21,590 and then when it's my turn, we harvest 881 00:56:21,590 --> 00:56:24,443 what they've grown and turn it into lunch. 882 00:56:26,090 --> 00:56:28,673 (gentle music) 883 00:56:31,330 --> 00:56:32,660 So... 884 00:56:32,660 --> 00:56:35,550 Today we're making kale chips and broadbean dip 885 00:56:35,550 --> 00:56:37,433 and each week it's different. 886 00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:41,250 The idea is just to teach them some basics of cooking 887 00:56:41,250 --> 00:56:45,140 and in order for that to work, we use time bank volunteers. 888 00:56:45,140 --> 00:56:46,890 And we couldn't do it without them. 889 00:56:48,190 --> 00:56:52,350 Our volunteers are paid one credit per hour that they come 890 00:56:52,350 --> 00:56:56,190 and volunteer for us so we take those from the school 891 00:56:56,190 --> 00:56:58,760 time bank credit system and give it to them 892 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,117 and then they use that to trade for whatever they need. 893 00:57:02,117 --> 00:57:04,700 (gentle music) 894 00:57:06,930 --> 00:57:10,840 - It's always easier to build your barn while the sun 895 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,100 is shining than try to put it up in a howling gale 896 00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,040 so if you put these things together now, 897 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,810 if you get the system up and running, 898 00:57:18,810 --> 00:57:21,000 and especially with something like a local currency 899 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,518 where they may be some marketing involved, 900 00:57:23,518 --> 00:57:26,687 trying to get buy in from people and all that, 901 00:57:27,887 --> 00:57:29,430 you don't create one of these things out of whole cloth 902 00:57:30,427 --> 00:57:31,845 and get it widely accepted overnight. 903 00:57:31,845 --> 00:57:34,428 (gentle music) 904 00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:37,070 - But there's no getting away from it. 905 00:57:37,070 --> 00:57:40,444 A huge part of this is that we just consume too much stuff. 906 00:57:40,444 --> 00:57:43,380 (eerie music) 907 00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:46,210 Our entire economy is built on getting us to buy 908 00:57:46,210 --> 00:57:49,973 and consume, dispose and reconsume things. 909 00:57:52,620 --> 00:57:54,990 I don't think it's realistic that we can expect to live 910 00:57:54,990 --> 00:57:57,470 in a world where we don't make things or use things 911 00:57:57,470 --> 00:57:59,450 or use resources, of course we do, we need to use them 912 00:57:59,450 --> 00:58:01,300 in a way that is smart, you know, 913 00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:03,462 it's about intelligent use, it's about being efficient 914 00:58:03,462 --> 00:58:05,033 and not wasteful. 915 00:58:07,810 --> 00:58:11,406 - The notion of waste is something that wasn't around 916 00:58:11,406 --> 00:58:13,440 two or three hundred years ago, you know, 917 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,190 we just didn't have waste, things had utility, 918 00:58:16,190 --> 00:58:18,650 things had value all the way through 919 00:58:18,650 --> 00:58:23,370 and if they reached the end of productivity, 920 00:58:23,370 --> 00:58:26,293 they were reformed into something else. 921 00:58:31,689 --> 00:58:36,030 Welcome to Bayswater Repair Cafe. 922 00:58:36,030 --> 00:58:39,510 A repair cafe is a free popup event 923 00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:42,490 where local community experts 924 00:58:42,490 --> 00:58:45,250 in a variety of different areas, 925 00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:48,070 offer their skills and services to other people 926 00:58:48,070 --> 00:58:49,770 in their local community for free. 927 00:58:51,290 --> 00:58:55,070 You know, every year, we send a crazy amount of stuff 928 00:58:55,070 --> 00:58:59,400 to holes in the ground and this is about maybe doing 929 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,530 something to address some of that flow 930 00:59:01,530 --> 00:59:03,250 but also in the process of doing that 931 00:59:03,250 --> 00:59:05,800 bringing people together in a beautiful way that... 932 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,126 Connects people, creates some networks 933 00:59:10,126 --> 00:59:12,123 and maybe even some friendships. 934 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,480 So we've got five different repair areas at the cafe today. 935 00:59:19,550 --> 00:59:23,131 We've got an electrical appliances repair space 936 00:59:23,131 --> 00:59:25,640 and that is overwhelmingly the most popular area, 937 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,180 so people bring in toasters and lamps and all kinds 938 00:59:29,180 --> 00:59:31,053 of random bits and pieces. 939 00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:35,690 We've got a clothing repair space 940 00:59:35,690 --> 00:59:38,310 and we've got a team of seamstresses 941 00:59:39,666 --> 00:59:41,648 and a seamster, if that's the right word, 942 00:59:41,648 --> 00:59:44,102 who are mending clothes. 943 00:59:44,102 --> 00:59:46,720 (upbeat music) 944 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:51,710 We've got a guy who is repairing wood and pieces 945 00:59:51,710 --> 00:59:54,890 of furniture and we've got general repairs 946 00:59:54,890 --> 00:59:57,083 and we've also got two bike mechanics. 947 00:59:58,936 --> 01:00:02,910 I was speaking to the daughter of one of the volunteers 948 01:00:02,910 --> 01:00:07,910 who helped out with the repairs and he was an older guy 949 01:00:08,020 --> 01:00:10,830 and he said to her that he felt... 950 01:00:12,180 --> 01:00:14,770 A real sense of... 951 01:00:14,770 --> 01:00:17,632 Belonging and a real sense of feeling useful 952 01:00:17,632 --> 01:00:21,931 and having purpose and... 953 01:00:21,931 --> 01:00:24,709 I thought that was an amazing output from the day 954 01:00:24,709 --> 01:00:27,749 to make someone feel good about having 955 01:00:27,749 --> 01:00:32,203 shared their skills with local people. 956 01:00:33,074 --> 01:00:36,490 This is a beautiful example of a community initiative 957 01:00:36,490 --> 01:00:41,000 that brings people together and enhances connection, 958 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,730 enhances a sense of community and neighborhood and... 959 01:00:45,660 --> 01:00:48,087 You know, we fix a lot of stuff, 960 01:00:48,087 --> 01:00:51,950 but more important than that I think is the building 961 01:00:51,950 --> 01:00:53,769 of connection and community. 962 01:00:53,769 --> 01:00:56,352 (somber music) 963 01:00:58,690 --> 01:01:01,060 - It's really important to remember that when you 964 01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:04,020 dispose of something, you can't throw it away. 965 01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:06,503 When you throw something it goes somewhere. 966 01:01:07,740 --> 01:01:09,451 You might not know where that is, 967 01:01:09,451 --> 01:01:10,284 it may be out of your sight, 968 01:01:10,284 --> 01:01:12,010 it may be out of your mind, 969 01:01:12,010 --> 01:01:13,829 but there is no such place as away. 970 01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:16,412 (somber music) 971 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,735 - In 2007 we were really starting to think about our impact 972 01:01:21,735 --> 01:01:24,240 that we were having, just our regular day to day actions 973 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,820 and one of the things we focused on was how much rubbish 974 01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:29,060 we were producing, I mean, we could have focused 975 01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:32,635 on anything, but rubbish was so visual and just every week 976 01:01:32,635 --> 01:01:37,635 of rubbish bags filling up and so we somehow decided 977 01:01:38,030 --> 01:01:40,434 to challenge ourselves, I don't remember whose idea it was 978 01:01:40,434 --> 01:01:43,610 now but we did this crazy thing where we thought, right, 979 01:01:43,610 --> 01:01:46,623 we're gonna try and make no rubbish for the entire year. 980 01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:51,570 We were genuinely not green people. 981 01:01:51,570 --> 01:01:55,500 We were putting out a bag of rubbish every week without fail 982 01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:58,500 and we had literally never thought about it before. 983 01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:01,060 we sort of, it came to us one day, 984 01:02:01,060 --> 01:02:03,037 we went, oh my gosh, this is terrible. 985 01:02:03,037 --> 01:02:07,189 - In terms of the challenge was to try and live 986 01:02:07,189 --> 01:02:09,180 for one year with less than a city council rubbish bag 987 01:02:09,180 --> 01:02:11,420 and most of it was made up of the items 988 01:02:11,420 --> 01:02:13,808 that were out of our control, so the radiator hose 989 01:02:13,808 --> 01:02:17,260 in our car burst and so we had radiator hose 990 01:02:17,260 --> 01:02:18,740 and we tried to carry on doing things 991 01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:21,070 that you'd normally do so we were renovating our home 992 01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:23,000 back then and... 993 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,618 We had all the lead paint from scraping the weatherboards. 994 01:02:26,618 --> 01:02:29,952 So in practical terms, that's what we had left over. 995 01:02:29,952 --> 01:02:32,702 (acoustic music) 996 01:02:35,947 --> 01:02:37,770 I think when we look at the average rubbish bin, 997 01:02:37,770 --> 01:02:39,840 you know, what people are putting out, 998 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,050 at least 50% of it's generally organics and so 999 01:02:44,146 --> 01:02:46,360 you take the biggest things out first, right, 1000 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,110 so deal with organics is the no brainer. 1001 01:02:49,110 --> 01:02:53,931 If you do that, you're 50% ahead of the average citizen 1002 01:02:53,931 --> 01:02:58,520 and then there's another sort of 30% of recycle material 1003 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,827 general these days in the rubbish bin so there's 1004 01:03:01,827 --> 01:03:04,460 the next thing, so you deal with the organics, 1005 01:03:04,460 --> 01:03:07,400 then you recycle everything you can and you're getting up 1006 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,253 there by that stage, you've made massive gains. 1007 01:03:12,688 --> 01:03:14,900 People can feel overwhelmed and feel that what they're doing 1008 01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:17,900 doesn't make a difference, but most of the waste 1009 01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:20,750 we create or we're kind of... 1010 01:03:20,750 --> 01:03:24,090 Complicit in is waste we've never seen 1011 01:03:24,090 --> 01:03:26,600 so we'll buy something and there'll be a bit of packaging 1012 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,200 around it that we see, but making that item, 1013 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,288 that's when the bulk of the waste is created 1014 01:03:32,288 --> 01:03:35,820 so if you put out a rubbish bag, it actually represents 1015 01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:39,510 70 rubbish bags of waste that you've never seen 1016 01:03:39,510 --> 01:03:42,793 that's gone into making that bag of waste. 1017 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,000 Consumers have it tough, right, a lot of money 1018 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,577 goes into marketing and sending them messages 1019 01:03:50,577 --> 01:03:53,791 that you can buy our compostable packaging 1020 01:03:53,791 --> 01:03:56,447 and you're saving the environment 1021 01:03:56,447 --> 01:03:58,923 and of course, compostable packaging in the landfill's 1022 01:03:58,923 --> 01:04:00,320 just as bad. 1023 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,160 - It's the sort of thing that actually needs 1024 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,740 to be composted at very hot temperatures 1025 01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:08,480 so it really needs commercial composting to be done properly 1026 01:04:10,180 --> 01:04:12,790 One of the biggest problems in my business is 1027 01:04:12,790 --> 01:04:14,850 that I have to go vendors and say, I'm sorry, 1028 01:04:14,850 --> 01:04:17,200 I know you've paid more and you've been promised 1029 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,930 that this is eco and compostable by the person 1030 01:04:20,930 --> 01:04:25,420 that sold it to you but they didn't actually go 1031 01:04:25,420 --> 01:04:27,680 and do their product stewardship and find out 1032 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,870 whether the composting industry can take it 1033 01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:30,943 in every place. 1034 01:04:32,990 --> 01:04:33,830 - I think we've actually got consumers 1035 01:04:33,830 --> 01:04:34,663 that want to do the right thing, 1036 01:04:34,663 --> 01:04:37,113 we've got businesses that are doing amazing stuff, 1037 01:04:37,113 --> 01:04:40,149 and we've got a government completely missing in action 1038 01:04:40,149 --> 01:04:43,379 in terms of providing a framework to encourage 1039 01:04:43,379 --> 01:04:45,153 those behaviors more and more. 1040 01:04:46,580 --> 01:04:48,580 - So when you do buy a container at the supermarket 1041 01:04:48,580 --> 01:04:50,528 you make sure it's a reusable container 1042 01:04:50,528 --> 01:04:52,510 and then you wash it out and you take it into 1043 01:04:52,510 --> 01:04:53,957 one of these stores and you get them to weigh it 1044 01:04:53,957 --> 01:04:55,850 and you fill it up with whatever you want 1045 01:04:55,850 --> 01:04:57,070 and they take the weight of it 1046 01:04:57,070 --> 01:05:00,203 and you've just stopped that plastic packaging. 1047 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,310 - If people combining composting and learning 1048 01:05:03,310 --> 01:05:04,960 how to recycle and they're just putting a bit 1049 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,087 of extra thought into how they're shopping, 1050 01:05:07,087 --> 01:05:09,740 particularly considering their packaging... 1051 01:05:10,616 --> 01:05:13,769 (gentle music) 1052 01:05:13,769 --> 01:05:15,740 It's that choice when you're at the supermarket 1053 01:05:15,740 --> 01:05:20,310 or at Buntings or whatever, thinking about the item, 1054 01:05:20,310 --> 01:05:23,410 essentially if it's plastic or got other composite 1055 01:05:23,410 --> 01:05:26,550 materials in it, what can you do with it 1056 01:05:26,550 --> 01:05:29,130 at the end of life, not much, it's gonna be rubbish, 1057 01:05:29,130 --> 01:05:31,330 it's gonna be around for thousands of years. 1058 01:05:32,790 --> 01:05:35,580 Every time you spend a dollar it's a vote. 1059 01:05:35,580 --> 01:05:38,840 We have so much power, so much more power than what 1060 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,825 we realize, so it's like keep on that knife edge, 1061 01:05:40,825 --> 01:05:45,320 yes, see, there's these big issues, but also yes, 1062 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,788 we can make a difference. 1063 01:05:46,788 --> 01:05:49,380 (gentle music) 1064 01:05:49,380 --> 01:05:51,710 - Like there's part of me, you know, when I go to recycle 1065 01:05:51,710 --> 01:05:56,510 my bottles or compost my waste... 1066 01:05:58,182 --> 01:05:59,810 It's like, well what good does it do? 1067 01:05:59,810 --> 01:06:03,420 Now I'm just subtracting one plastic bottle 1068 01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:07,940 from the enormous trash heap that gets shipped to India 1069 01:06:07,940 --> 01:06:11,320 and is making new mountains in India and China, you know, 1070 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,380 of waste, like what does it matter? 1071 01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:15,283 One bottle different? 1072 01:06:16,740 --> 01:06:19,720 You can say well if everybody did it, then it would make 1073 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,173 a difference, so you have to do your part, 1074 01:06:23,588 --> 01:06:26,750 but part of you will say, well, I'm not everybody 1075 01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:29,523 and if everybody does it, then it doesn't matter if I do it. 1076 01:06:30,460 --> 01:06:32,780 So we have to have another reason. 1077 01:06:32,780 --> 01:06:36,690 For me it comes down to relationship and ritual. 1078 01:06:36,690 --> 01:06:41,000 I like to save my compost and use composting toilets, 1079 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:41,833 for example. 1080 01:06:43,140 --> 01:06:46,410 Not because I've done some calculation that... 1081 01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:50,770 This is gonna save the world but because it's a different 1082 01:06:50,770 --> 01:06:54,243 kind of relationship with the beings around me. 1083 01:06:54,243 --> 01:06:56,826 (gentle music) 1084 01:07:02,590 --> 01:07:05,300 - Composting toilets, like composting your own shit, 1085 01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:08,705 processing your own toilet waste is a real basic fundamental 1086 01:07:08,705 --> 01:07:11,850 thing that we should all practice, it's a... 1087 01:07:13,065 --> 01:07:17,873 Simple way of being, of demonstrating self responsibility. 1088 01:07:18,850 --> 01:07:22,130 - So with a flush toilet basically you take really nice 1089 01:07:22,130 --> 01:07:26,480 clean drinking water and our shit and mix the two together. 1090 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,090 Both wonderful resources, when you mix them together, 1091 01:07:30,090 --> 01:07:31,983 you create a toxic problem. 1092 01:07:33,420 --> 01:07:36,630 So with a compost toilet system, 1093 01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:40,860 you're able to capture that amazing resource and... 1094 01:07:40,860 --> 01:07:44,345 Take care of it and treat it in a way that removes 1095 01:07:44,345 --> 01:07:47,843 any pathogens or problems and create a wonderful resource. 1096 01:07:48,843 --> 01:07:51,426 (gentle music) 1097 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,550 - Okay, so welcome to our toilet, for a start, 1098 01:07:55,550 --> 01:07:57,860 it's a composting toilet bucket bench system. 1099 01:07:57,860 --> 01:08:01,817 We've got cover material which we use old sawdust 1100 01:08:01,817 --> 01:08:04,140 from the mill, it's already got bacteria and a bit 1101 01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:05,600 of fungus in there. 1102 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,900 So you go make your deposit, (clicks tongue), 1103 01:08:07,900 --> 01:08:10,840 put a bit of cover material on, leave it. 1104 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,900 And then when we've got a certain amount of buckets 1105 01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:16,600 we go to the compost and add straw and garden waste 1106 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,214 and kitchen waste. 1107 01:08:18,214 --> 01:08:21,130 (upbeat music) 1108 01:08:21,130 --> 01:08:23,378 And this is one I did maybe a week ago 1109 01:08:23,378 --> 01:08:26,690 and we'll put the compost thermometer in here 1110 01:08:26,690 --> 01:08:28,330 and see what we're looking at. 1111 01:08:28,330 --> 01:08:31,660 It's still looking at 50 degrees, it's going up, 1112 01:08:31,660 --> 01:08:33,370 we've got up to 65 degrees the other day, 1113 01:08:33,370 --> 01:08:34,990 I recorded it. 1114 01:08:34,990 --> 01:08:36,700 - You know, there are pathogens you have to consider, 1115 01:08:36,700 --> 01:08:39,870 there's roundworm eggs and all these different kinds 1116 01:08:39,870 --> 01:08:44,850 of worm eggs that can exist in your manure. 1117 01:08:44,850 --> 01:08:47,300 If you do a hot compost, that's the safest way 1118 01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:51,118 because you can nuke all those things within hours. 1119 01:08:51,118 --> 01:08:54,140 (upbeat music) 1120 01:08:54,140 --> 01:08:55,670 - And over here... 1121 01:08:58,250 --> 01:08:59,083 Is... 1122 01:09:00,660 --> 01:09:01,493 What you get. 1123 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,693 I put it in a bag, but you don't need to. (grunts) 1124 01:09:07,853 --> 01:09:09,403 That there is about a year old, 1125 01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:12,150 it's got lots of worms in it. 1126 01:09:12,150 --> 01:09:15,860 We put all our garden waste and all our kitchen waste 1127 01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:18,440 in here, but the worms are a good sign. 1128 01:09:18,440 --> 01:09:20,755 If you've got worms, it means it's not too acidic and 1129 01:09:20,755 --> 01:09:22,630 (sniffs) mmm, yum, good stuff 1130 01:09:23,587 --> 01:09:25,130 and that goes straight on the garden 1131 01:09:25,130 --> 01:09:29,973 and the plants love it and we love the plants. (laughs) 1132 01:09:31,460 --> 01:09:33,760 - When it's finished composting it doesn't look like 1133 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,210 or smell anything like poo. 1134 01:09:36,210 --> 01:09:38,363 It's just beautiful black compost. 1135 01:09:40,430 --> 01:09:41,263 So we have monitored it closely, 1136 01:09:41,263 --> 01:09:42,410 we've watched the temperature, 1137 01:09:42,410 --> 01:09:45,389 we know all the pathogens have been nuked, 1138 01:09:45,389 --> 01:09:48,035 we feel confident in our process 1139 01:09:48,035 --> 01:09:51,080 so we feel safe to use it in our garden. 1140 01:09:52,260 --> 01:09:55,029 Anyone can do this, it's just really a matter of being 1141 01:09:55,029 --> 01:09:58,660 engaged and wanting to do it and getting the knowledge, 1142 01:09:58,660 --> 01:10:01,781 it's a knowledge based system, it's not technological 1143 01:10:01,781 --> 01:10:04,720 or anything really advanced, I've seen people do it 1144 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,673 in cities with a wee backyard, small backyard. 1145 01:10:09,420 --> 01:10:13,118 Yeah, and I've seen people do it in really rural settings. 1146 01:10:13,118 --> 01:10:14,940 It's just a matter of being engaged. 1147 01:10:14,940 --> 01:10:16,780 - Yeah, it's for everyone, everyone, 1148 01:10:16,780 --> 01:10:18,989 everyone who wants to take more 1149 01:10:18,989 --> 01:10:20,798 responsibility for themselves 1150 01:10:20,798 --> 01:10:22,733 and not pass it off. 1151 01:10:24,010 --> 01:10:26,803 Everyone who values their poo. (laughs) 1152 01:10:28,820 --> 01:10:31,373 I value my poo. (laughs) 1153 01:10:32,850 --> 01:10:36,700 I value your poo too, so you're welcome to leave a deposit 1154 01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:38,290 before you go, it's sort of expected, 1155 01:10:38,290 --> 01:10:41,161 actually, no pressure. (laughs) 1156 01:10:41,161 --> 01:10:43,744 (gentle music) 1157 01:10:53,934 --> 01:10:55,800 - I've come to see that in order to be part of the solution 1158 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,937 we really need to use our everyday choices to change 1159 01:10:59,937 --> 01:11:02,420 our behavior and it's a cultural shift 1160 01:11:02,420 --> 01:11:04,560 that needs to happen in order for us to at least 1161 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,080 sustain ourselves, which isn't even enough, of course, 1162 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:07,913 because... 1163 01:11:09,230 --> 01:11:11,400 What are we sustaining? (laughs) 1164 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,370 And so that's something I've really been putting 1165 01:11:13,370 --> 01:11:15,810 a lot of time into recently, is designing my work 1166 01:11:15,810 --> 01:11:17,281 so that it's actually regenerative. 1167 01:11:17,281 --> 01:11:19,864 (upbeat music) 1168 01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:27,980 Sort of out of necessity I started this organic waste 1169 01:11:27,980 --> 01:11:28,813 collection. 1170 01:11:28,813 --> 01:11:29,733 Check this out, whoa! 1171 01:11:34,198 --> 01:11:36,046 Now we're currently picking about two and a half tons up 1172 01:11:36,046 --> 01:11:39,700 each week from local businesses and instead of that 1173 01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:43,420 all going into a hole in the ground, it gets returned 1174 01:11:43,420 --> 01:11:48,363 back to the way of wind row erodic composting. 1175 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,710 So we currently have around 45 businesses on the Why Waste 1176 01:11:53,710 --> 01:11:57,540 collection, and they have a number of bins or buckets, 1177 01:11:57,540 --> 01:12:00,120 mostly wheelie bins and some have up to five 1178 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:04,860 wheelie bins at their business and every week 1179 01:12:04,860 --> 01:12:08,890 Why Waste comes and picks that up and we take it to, 1180 01:12:08,890 --> 01:12:11,000 we weigh it, we record all the data, things like that, 1181 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,080 we take it to a composting facility and so yeah, 1182 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,102 we're in partnership with them so that we can return that 1183 01:12:18,102 --> 01:12:20,143 waste back to the soil. 1184 01:12:21,890 --> 01:12:23,850 Recently, one of my clients rang me up 1185 01:12:23,850 --> 01:12:26,417 and they were super stoked because they were able to cancel 1186 01:12:26,417 --> 01:12:30,501 this big, like, skip bin for their rubbish, you know, 1187 01:12:30,501 --> 01:12:34,182 and now they just use a 240 liter wheelie bin 1188 01:12:34,182 --> 01:12:37,990 which is much, much smaller and that's as a result 1189 01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:38,950 of all of their... 1190 01:12:40,102 --> 01:12:44,263 Compostable waste going back to the soil. 1191 01:12:45,121 --> 01:12:49,062 Ooh, what's that, ooh, tasty muffin. (laughs) 1192 01:12:49,062 --> 01:12:51,645 (upbeat music) 1193 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,270 I'm really passionate about composting as a solution of 1194 01:12:56,270 --> 01:13:00,390 minimizing our waste and our impact here on... 1195 01:13:00,390 --> 01:13:03,550 This one planet that we have. (laughs) 1196 01:13:03,550 --> 01:13:07,862 Food scraps and biodegradable waste takes up over a third 1197 01:13:07,862 --> 01:13:10,540 of what we send to a landfill. 1198 01:13:10,540 --> 01:13:15,540 When biodegradable matter biodegrades, anaerobically, 1199 01:13:15,939 --> 01:13:20,290 it produces a lot of methane which is 23 times worse 1200 01:13:20,290 --> 01:13:23,105 than carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas 1201 01:13:23,105 --> 01:13:27,800 and not only do you get that gas going to the atmosphere 1202 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,361 but you also get a liquid version of it 1203 01:13:31,361 --> 01:13:35,344 leaching into our soils, into our water table. 1204 01:13:35,344 --> 01:13:37,380 (upbeat music) 1205 01:13:37,380 --> 01:13:40,220 So what we're trying to achieve here is build 1206 01:13:40,220 --> 01:13:44,890 a really hot compost around this drum and also 1207 01:13:44,890 --> 01:13:48,710 all of this, build all this irrigation into it 1208 01:13:48,710 --> 01:13:52,480 so that when that aerobic hot compost heats up 1209 01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:56,954 we should be able to pump water through the system 1210 01:13:56,954 --> 01:14:01,412 out and over to these bathtubs over here 1211 01:14:01,412 --> 01:14:06,412 and have free biologically heated hot water. 1212 01:14:09,469 --> 01:14:11,930 The reason why I'm so enthusiastic about compost is that 1213 01:14:11,930 --> 01:14:14,610 it's fertility in its purest form. 1214 01:14:14,610 --> 01:14:18,840 This is how nature builds soil and that enables us 1215 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,180 to grow more food and... 1216 01:14:22,180 --> 01:14:25,072 If people are conscious of composting, 1217 01:14:25,072 --> 01:14:27,690 they're probably gonna become more conscious 1218 01:14:27,690 --> 01:14:30,340 about what they're eating and if they're opening 1219 01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:32,900 less packets, that's good for everyone, 1220 01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:36,440 that's good for the planet, that's good for our people, 1221 01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:39,380 if we can get people to focus on eating better, 1222 01:14:39,380 --> 01:14:42,990 then we're actually able to produce a lot less landfill 1223 01:14:42,990 --> 01:14:46,480 waste and a lot more biodegradable waste, 1224 01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:48,810 which in turn can be turned into more fertility 1225 01:14:48,810 --> 01:14:52,370 to produce more food, so the healthier we eat, 1226 01:14:52,370 --> 01:14:55,420 the better our waste is and much easier to manage 1227 01:14:55,420 --> 01:14:56,731 and return to the land. 1228 01:14:56,731 --> 01:14:59,890 (upbeat music) 1229 01:14:59,890 --> 01:15:03,363 People talk about thinking global, acting local. 1230 01:15:04,538 --> 01:15:08,660 I suppose I'm really sitting in that truth presently. 1231 01:15:08,660 --> 01:15:10,380 I'd rather think local and act global, 1232 01:15:10,380 --> 01:15:12,573 but we've got to start somewhere, you know? 1233 01:15:13,470 --> 01:15:14,360 And so... 1234 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,140 Yeah, that's the change that I'm wanting to see in the world 1235 01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:22,373 so I'm being it the best I can. 1236 01:15:22,373 --> 01:15:24,956 (upbeat music) 1237 01:15:33,136 --> 01:15:35,719 (somber music) 1238 01:16:02,981 --> 01:16:04,030 (upbeat music) 1239 01:16:04,030 --> 01:16:06,860 - I see a lot of people who are very sensitive to... 1240 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,141 The devastation, the damage or just civilization 1241 01:16:11,141 --> 01:16:15,350 and it paralyzes them and that's sad 1242 01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:20,350 because we need those people, all of those people. 1243 01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:23,190 You know, there are a lot of things that could depress you 1244 01:16:23,190 --> 01:16:26,220 out in the world, but if you take each negative act, 1245 01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:30,070 there's almost like an opportunity or a provocation 1246 01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:33,040 to do your thing, which is the opposite of that, 1247 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:37,380 give more life, then it's fun, it's a winnable game, 1248 01:16:37,380 --> 01:16:39,344 that's how I see it. 1249 01:16:39,344 --> 01:16:41,927 (gentle music) 1250 01:16:45,621 --> 01:16:47,381 - Wouldn't it be awesome to see our country 1251 01:16:47,381 --> 01:16:48,623 before human contact? 1252 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,640 You know, the thousands and thousands, millions of birds. 1253 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,173 Huge, huge Cody trees, it's just unimaginable. 1254 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,680 I think we all have done a misjustice to the (speaks Maori). 1255 01:17:06,122 --> 01:17:08,000 My ancestors weren't exactly the best conservationists 1256 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,880 either but we now have a chance to revive 1257 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,003 and recover those landscapes before it's too late. 1258 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,110 - Over a three year period we planted 85,000 trees 1259 01:17:22,110 --> 01:17:24,970 and the majority of those are New Zealand native trees 1260 01:17:24,970 --> 01:17:27,690 which are now flourishing and really transforming 1261 01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:28,523 the landscape. 1262 01:17:29,940 --> 01:17:31,510 I just sort of would love to see what this place 1263 01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:34,040 looked like 1000 years ago, which is such 1264 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,760 a brief period in ecological time 1265 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,890 and in that time we've sort of stripped 1266 01:17:38,890 --> 01:17:42,580 most of the native vegetation and done a whole lot 1267 01:17:42,580 --> 01:17:46,010 of damage and we've gone about as far as we can 1268 01:17:46,010 --> 01:17:48,360 down that road and so now it's time for us 1269 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,310 to try and find the balance and restore those... 1270 01:17:53,460 --> 01:17:55,786 Ecosystems but find a place for humans 1271 01:17:55,786 --> 01:17:57,703 living harmoniously within it. 1272 01:18:01,860 --> 01:18:03,930 - You don't realize this, but this used to be 1273 01:18:03,930 --> 01:18:04,893 pastoral desert. 1274 01:18:05,781 --> 01:18:06,901 - It was just grass. 1275 01:18:06,901 --> 01:18:08,602 - Yeah, and... 1276 01:18:08,602 --> 01:18:10,070 This is what people can do. - Mmm. 1277 01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:12,020 - [Man] You can create heaven on earth. 1278 01:18:13,002 --> 01:18:15,502 (birds chirp) 1279 01:18:16,530 --> 01:18:20,440 - Start growing food, food is central to the way we live, 1280 01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:23,623 our health and our whole ecosystem, environment. 1281 01:18:25,610 --> 01:18:29,043 Even if you're in an apartment, windowsills, pots, 1282 01:18:29,954 --> 01:18:32,042 whatever, you can start and that's the first step. 1283 01:18:32,042 --> 01:18:34,880 Once you engage with growing and experiencing nature 1284 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,743 then things start to happen. 1285 01:18:39,010 --> 01:18:41,530 - I get asked this a lot, what can somebody do 1286 01:18:41,530 --> 01:18:43,950 if they're not a farmer, if they're not on the land, 1287 01:18:43,950 --> 01:18:45,090 what can they do to change it? 1288 01:18:45,090 --> 01:18:49,140 Well, they can do a lot, the best thing that anybody can do 1289 01:18:49,140 --> 01:18:50,830 is to vote with their wallets. 1290 01:18:50,830 --> 01:18:52,890 While in some cases it may be more expensive, 1291 01:18:52,890 --> 01:18:56,350 do what you can, you know, you can see 1292 01:18:56,350 --> 01:19:00,400 people in your area that are producing food that is 1293 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,030 ecologically healthy, they're doing it in a way 1294 01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:05,239 that is looking after the environment, 1295 01:19:05,239 --> 01:19:07,500 then that adds up, you know, the more people 1296 01:19:07,500 --> 01:19:11,200 that do that, the less expensive it will become 1297 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,600 as that becomes normalized. 1298 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,183 (gentle music) 1299 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,405 - You know, from an individual's point of view, 1300 01:19:19,405 --> 01:19:23,722 the biggest change by far that we can achieve 1301 01:19:23,722 --> 01:19:26,220 in our own by changing our own lifestyle 1302 01:19:26,220 --> 01:19:28,760 is to reduce the amount of meat we eat. 1303 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,620 That will have a much bigger effect 1304 01:19:30,620 --> 01:19:33,953 than what we do transport wise, almost anything else. 1305 01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:39,330 - It's a lovely poem that talks about, we don't have to be 1306 01:19:39,330 --> 01:19:41,380 good, we don't have to walk 100 miles on our knees 1307 01:19:41,380 --> 01:19:44,120 repenting in the desert, we just have to do 1308 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,299 what the soft animal of our body loves 1309 01:19:47,299 --> 01:19:50,013 and I really like that, I really like that. 1310 01:19:50,990 --> 01:19:54,170 For me this turns out to be what I love and I have 1311 01:19:54,170 --> 01:19:56,901 a suspicion that this is actually the blueprint 1312 01:19:56,901 --> 01:19:59,024 and there's something when people get to it, 1313 01:19:59,024 --> 01:20:04,024 everybody would want to live this way, I suspect, but... 1314 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,720 It might be a really long journey for some folks 1315 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:07,870 to get to that knowing. 1316 01:20:12,060 --> 01:20:15,650 - Last year, I made a submission to... 1317 01:20:15,650 --> 01:20:19,300 The council of longterm plan that I thought climate change 1318 01:20:19,300 --> 01:20:23,910 was by far the most urgent and important issue 1319 01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:25,800 that council should... 1320 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,020 Be concerned about and... 1321 01:20:29,020 --> 01:20:31,443 They said, and what would that look like? 1322 01:20:34,917 --> 01:20:36,334 I got a reaction. 1323 01:20:37,210 --> 01:20:39,060 So I ruminate on that for a while 1324 01:20:39,900 --> 01:20:43,060 and I took it back to a group that I was part of, 1325 01:20:43,060 --> 01:20:46,000 called Project Wairarapa, and... 1326 01:20:47,260 --> 01:20:49,670 They said, yes. 1327 01:20:49,670 --> 01:20:51,740 Let's do this. 1328 01:20:51,740 --> 01:20:55,800 You should've heard the buzz at that first meeting, 1329 01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:00,800 it was fantastic and that feeds me, that encourages me. 1330 01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:06,010 That I'm doing something useful, it's my time 1331 01:21:06,010 --> 01:21:09,498 to give back to the community that's been so good to me, 1332 01:21:09,498 --> 01:21:13,523 where I've raised my kids and had such a good life. 1333 01:21:16,570 --> 01:21:19,710 - So my vision for the future, I have to be really clear, 1334 01:21:19,710 --> 01:21:22,250 it doesn't have anything to do with things working 1335 01:21:22,250 --> 01:21:25,800 the way they do now but with renewable energy. 1336 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,500 That's actually not a possibility. 1337 01:21:28,460 --> 01:21:31,480 Working on renewable energy and being quite different 1338 01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:33,840 from what we do now, evolving into something else 1339 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,780 is the vision I see. 1340 01:21:36,780 --> 01:21:41,780 Now how well that's all working, how high a quality 1341 01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:45,630 of life that is, how fair it is, how equitable it is, 1342 01:21:45,630 --> 01:21:47,830 how stable the governments are, how much war 1343 01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:50,300 has come between now and then completely depends 1344 01:21:50,300 --> 01:21:51,658 on what we do right now. 1345 01:21:51,658 --> 01:21:54,500 (gentle music) 1346 01:21:54,500 --> 01:21:56,110 - I think that the place that we're going 1347 01:21:56,110 --> 01:21:58,983 is a place that we cannot see from where we are. 1348 01:22:00,630 --> 01:22:05,497 It'll only emerge or become visible as we move toward it 1349 01:22:05,497 --> 01:22:08,760 so I'm not gonna say, okay, here's the blueprint 1350 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,297 for the future system, I've thought it all out 1351 01:22:11,297 --> 01:22:13,520 and so now I'm gonna tell you what it is, 1352 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,800 but I do catch glimpses sometimes, you know. 1353 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,090 One thing that comes to me is that in the future, 1354 01:22:20,090 --> 01:22:23,204 we'll feel really at home in the world, we will be 1355 01:22:23,204 --> 01:22:26,793 intimately familiar with the landscape around us. 1356 01:22:27,970 --> 01:22:31,803 We will be in rich communities. 1357 01:22:32,743 --> 01:22:35,510 The best experiences you've had in your life, 1358 01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:39,183 the most authentic, the most vibrant, 1359 01:22:40,210 --> 01:22:42,563 those don't have to be exceptions. 1360 01:22:44,850 --> 01:22:47,370 Trust what feels loving, trust what feels good, 1361 01:22:47,370 --> 01:22:50,063 trust what feels aligned with who you really are. 1362 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,890 If you live by that and spread that vibe 1363 01:22:55,890 --> 01:22:57,860 and other people start living by that 1364 01:22:57,860 --> 01:22:59,914 then the whole planet is gonna change. 1365 01:22:59,914 --> 01:23:02,664 (hopeful music) 107799

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