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A fatal
fall into a stream
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in a remote British
countryside.
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The police said
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there had been some sort of
an accident involving Natalie.
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A young woman's
life cut short in an instant.
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Was it just a tragic accident?
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Andrew
Pearson gave an account,
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he'd gone for a walk
with Natalie,
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and she'd fallen
and slipped into a stream.
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Or murder?
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All
the police have at this point
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is suspicions.
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They've got questions.
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But that is not enough
to provide evidence of guilt.
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Natalie Harker
was born in North Yorkshire.
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She lived with her mom
and dad, John and Deborah,
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and her brother Alistair.
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Natalie
was a loving, caring sister.
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When we were younger
we were inseparable.
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My uncle used to call us
the "gruesome twosome."
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One day, me and Natalie were
out playing in the fields
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and the farm that we lived on.
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And my sister dared me
to sit on an ant hive.
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So I did.
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And then evidently
got my ass bit.
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This was typical of what me
and Natalie would get up to.
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We were like cats and dogs.
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We were always scrapping,
but we were always close.
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A loving brother and sister.
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Natalie was described
as kind, hardworking,
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loved by all of her
friends and the community
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that she lived in.
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She was really popular.
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She could talk to anyone
about anything.
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Everybody described her as a
bright, happy, bubbly character
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who would help anybody out.
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In early
2018, Natalie
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was living at home
with her mom and dad
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when she began dating
an older man named
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Andrew Pearson, who she'd
met when they both worked
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at a local supermarket.
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And a few months after
Andrew had quit his job,
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he came back in the store and
asked her to be his girlfriend,
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and Natalie said yes.
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Despite the 15 year
age gap, it was
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what would seem like
a fairy tale relationship.
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Natalie would talk in length
about Andrew, that he was so
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kind and how amazing he was.
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By October
2019, 30-year-old Natalie
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had left her job
at the supermarket
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and was working as a cleaner.
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Natalie was a really
hard-working person.
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She worked two
separate cleaning
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jobs, one in the morning
and one in the afternoon.
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Natalie often worked
on sociable hours,
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but she always was
really reliable
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and would turn up on time
every day for her shift.
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On October 9,
2019, Natalie left her
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parents' house at 4:30
AM to cycle to her
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first cleaning job of the day.
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Natalie told her parents that
she had a medical appointment
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at 10:00 AM after she finished
work, and she said that
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she would be home after that.
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But by 1:00 PM,
there was no sign of Natalie.
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Natalie's parents were
becoming increasingly
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concerned at this point.
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They went out
into the back garden,
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they could see that her
bicycle wasn't there
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and they called
her mobile phone,
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it went straight to voicemail.
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John and Deborah were
worried that maybe Natalie
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had got into some
kind of accident,
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and they went
to where she was meant
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to have had her
appointment that day,
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but Natalie had never shown.
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At about 2:30 that day, I
got a phone call from my dad
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saying Natalie
had gone missing,
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didn't know where she'd gone.
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And said, "you
need to come home."
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By this point, they thought
something was seriously wrong.
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They called 999
and within 10 minutes,
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officers were at the house.
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Detective
Inspector Steve Menzies
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of North Yorkshire Police
was on duty that day.
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So the first responders
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arrived at Natalie's home.
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Those officers did
a risk assessment
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to find out what
Natalie's routines were,
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who were her friends
and family were,
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and to find out whether she
was suffering any issues.
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Natalie would normally finish
her work about o'clock AM
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in the morning.
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She would then
cycle back home and
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rest before her second shift.
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It was established that
Natalie hadn't arrived at work
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and she certainly
hadn't arrived home.
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The police launched
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an urgent missing
persons inquiry,
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and they asked
the family to share
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some recent pictures
of Natalie, which they
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then shared on social media.
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To help with
their search, the police
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really needed to piece
together what Natalie
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had done in the hours
before her disappearance,
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particularly the route
that she had taken to work.
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Natalie would
normally use the main road.
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However, a few months before,
she'd fallen off her bike
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and injured her ankle
and she was really scared
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that she might
fall into the road
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where there might
be passing traffic.
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So she chose to use a cycle
route close by, which
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bypassed much of the road.
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The cycle path is quite narrow,
and on an October morning
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it was really, really dark.
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It was unlit, it was cold.
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It was wet and it was
shrouded by trees and bushes.
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As detectives
began to build a picture
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of Natalie's movements earlier
that morning, at 4:43 PM,
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over 3 hours since Natalie's
parents had reported her
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missing, North Yorkshire
Police received a distressing
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999 call from Andrew Pearson.
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Following Andrew's
999 call to report
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that Natalie had died after
falling into a stream,
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officers arrived at the scene.
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They found Andrew Pearson.
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He then directed them down
the cycle path to a gate,
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where he pointed
across the field
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and said that Natalie's
body was in a tent
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within the wooded area.
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Meanwhile,
Natalie's family
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were still
frantically searching
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for their missing loved one.
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I said to my mom
and my dad, "I want to go out
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and see if I can find her."
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Mom came with me.
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We drove around
for about 10, 15
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minutes, looking
in all the places
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we thought she maybe was.
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And I said to mom
we'll go and see
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if she's fallen off the bike.
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So we went down
to the lane where
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Natalie would sometimes go.
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On the way back from work,
then walked down the lane,
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heard a load of sirens.
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Thought the police are coming.
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So we ran out to be greeted
by Andrew Pearson and
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two police officers.
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The police said that
Andrew had called
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and said that there had been
some sort of an accident
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involving Natalie.
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Andrew was jumping around
hysterically saying,
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"this is the family,
this is the family."
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The police said, "stand
over there, please.
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Andrew's found Natalie."
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In that moment, we had no
idea what was going on.
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Both me and mom heard
the air ambulance coming over
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and thought she
was being saved.
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While Alistair
and his mom Deborah
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awaited news
on Natalie, officers
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followed Andrew's
directions into the woodland
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where he claimed he
had been camping.
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Officers
came across a thicket
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of wooded area, brambles,
bushes, overhanging trees
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and they scrambled down
that towards a stream.
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Officers managed to get across
the stream but the other side,
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and they came across Andrew
Pearson's tent, which
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was a highly camouflaged tent,
which was underneath a tree
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canopy, which made it
really difficult to be
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found in the first instance.
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Inside the tent, Natalie's
naked body was found
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underneath the sleeping bag.
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Officers could see
straight away that she
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had some severe bruising
towards her upper torso and
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her neck area.
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When
the police came back
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from hunting
around for Natalie,
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they told us to sit
in the back of a police car
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and wait for my father
to come down.
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In that moment, we didn't
know what was going on.
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The police said nothing to us.
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When my father arrived,
a police person
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came up and said,
"we found a body
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and we believe it's Natalie."
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After North Yorkshire
Police discovered the body
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of 30-year-old Natalie Harker
inside a tent on October 9,
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2019, they proceeded
to question Andrew Pearson,
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who had called
emergency services,
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claiming his girlfriend's
death had been
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a tragic accident
after she'd slipped
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and fallen into a stream.
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Andrew
Pearson gave an account
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they'd met on the cycle path.
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He'd gone for a walk with
Natalie, and during that walk,
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she'd fallen and slipped
into a stream.
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He then stated that he'd
pulled Natalie from the stream,
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given a CPR, and then
dragged her to a tent
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that he'd pitched
nearby in some woods.
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Andrew told the officers
whilst in the tent,
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she was awfully cold and wet,
so he took her clothes
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off to try and get her warm.
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Pearson says that
he fell unconscious
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from the pain of his back
injury, and when he woke,
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he found Natalie dead.
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And he said that the only
thing that woke him up
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was a call from
a friend in America.
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This was some 12
hours after Natalie had
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cycled to work that morning.
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Her body was now
found naked in a tent
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with some severe injuries.
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Natalie's brother
Alistair and their parents
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were waiting at the scene
when detectives confirmed
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they'd found Natalie.
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Mom and dad both cried.
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During this time,
we're very, very angry.
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I felt numb all day and every
day for about a week after.
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Nothing added up in our heads.
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Why would Natalie
have gone down
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into the woods at 5:30 in the
morning with it being dark?
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I thought it was very, very
strange behavior for Natalie.
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It's, of course, going to be
very unusual for a family to be
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live at the scene itself.
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The family stumbling across
the death of a loved one
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is going to be
so distressing, so confusing,
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and there's not going
to be any answers
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to the millions
of questions that flood
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their mind in that moment.
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An investigation
into Natalie's death
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was immediately launched,
led by Detective
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Inspector Steve
Menzies, who began
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to scrutinize Andrew's story.
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But Andrew Pearson claimed
to have met Natalie down
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this dark, dingy cycle path.
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In actual fact, the route
from her home address
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went down the main road and
there were several places where
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Andrew Peterson could have met
Natalie in a well-lit area,
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but he chose to meet her
down this cycle path.
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As the investigation
got underway,
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it wasn't long before
his team uncovered
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a crucial piece of evidence.
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So when the forensic
examination took place
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with the tent, it was found
that Natalie's clothing was
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folded neatly
in a zipped storage
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compartment within the tent.
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However, I would have expected
from Andrew Peterson's account
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that had he taken Natalie's
clothing off to get her warm,
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that clothing would
have been in a bundle,
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not stored in a storage
compartment neatly folded.
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But that
wasn't the only discovery
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that set off alarm bells.
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A number of items were found
within Andrew Pearson's tent.
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A lot of survival items,
dried food, axes, knives.
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But worryingly, what was
found was some gaffer tape,
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which was very
suggestive of a gag
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having been used on Natalie.
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Officers immediately became
very suspicious of the account
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that Andrew had given.
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Based upon that
information, officers
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determined that Andrew
Pearson should be arrested
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on suspicion of murder.
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You're under arrest
on suspicion of murder, OK?
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You understand?
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All right.
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I'm just going to put some
cuffs on you at the moment, OK?
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He is using a higher
pitched voice.
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He is sort of trying to show
off some body language
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of being really quite timid.
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And I have to question whether
that is his natural reaction
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or whether that's
quite intentional.
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Pearson looks very distressed.
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He looks very shocked.
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None of that naturally
indicates guilt on its own.
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What it could be
is that he stumbled
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across a really
awful scene, and
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he's distraught
at the loss of Natalie.
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Or it could be a tactic to try
and garner some sympathy
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from those arresting him
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Following his
arrest, Andrew was taken
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to Harrogate Police Station.
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I felt a lot
of anger towards Andrew
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when I'd found out he'd been
arrested because I thought
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he was a kind, decent
person, and that he
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wouldn't have hurt Natalie.
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It's hard to describe,
but it's sort
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of a numb feeling
in your head that you
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just can't process anything.
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The police now
just had 24 hours
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to either charge Andrew Pearson
or to let him walk free.
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They were desperately
hoping he could expand on
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that first 999 call he made.
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I
would have thought
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that, given Andrew Pearson's
original account that Natalie
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had fallen to this
stream and that this
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was a complete accident
leading to her death,
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having then been arrested
on suspicion of murder,
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that he would have
been very keen to give
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an account interview.
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However, in the police
interview,
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Andrew almost disengaged
from the police officers
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and refused to answer
any questions.
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That became really
suspicious for me
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as the senior
investigating officer.
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It's a real contrast from
that first 999 call where
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he is desperate for help to now
somebody that looks really
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disengaged with helping
the police understand
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what's just
happened to somebody
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who he claims that he loves.
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It's relatively common that
when someone has experienced
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a significant trauma, that they
go through a period of shock
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and that can be an immediate
shock, or it can be prolonged.
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And that can lead to displays
of various different behaviors,
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including a kind
of panic response
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where actually they
entirely withdraw.
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You can also imagine if this
is a case of someone innocent
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who's been arrested and is
being questioned as if they had
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something to do with
this death, that alone
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would be really traumatizing.
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It can make you, you know,
totally withdraw into yourself.
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It could really make you
question how safe you are.
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Whilst naturally
you might think
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that if someone's girlfriend
has had an accident
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and died in front of them, that
they would be trying to provide
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as much information
and context as
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possible to an investigation.
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But you also have to remember
that trauma can do really
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unusual things to a person.
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There's even conditions
like selective mutism,
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where people struggle
to communicate at all verbally.
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And so what Pearson
is doing here,
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whilst maybe looks
unusual, is not
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entirely unheard
of and cannot be enough
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to evidence their guilt.
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While police
struggled to get information
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from Andrew, a forensic
post-mortem was being
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carried out on Natalie's body.
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Natalie had suffered
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some external/internal
bruising to her upper torso
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and to her neck, but Andrew
Pearson's account
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was that he had
given CPR to Natalie
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at the point of taking her from
the stream and at the tent.
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So that could partially account
for some of the injuries
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that Natalie had received.
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Police would have to
wait for the post-mortem report
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to find out if it would provide
further information about how
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Natalie died and whether she
had fallen into the stream,
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as Andrew claimed, or if she
had been pushed to her death.
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All
the police have at this point
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is suspicions.
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They've got questions,
but that is not
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enough to provide
evidence of guilt.
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And so they need
a lot more information
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before they can
start truly answering
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any of those questions.
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They're going to be
looking for alibis.
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They're going to be
looking at the timelines.
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They're going to be
looking at the crime scene.
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Things like phone
records, anything
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that can indicate where Andrew
was before and during the event
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of Natalie's death.
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With Andrew
Pearson still in custody,
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police decided to look
into his cell phone, which
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had been seized
during his arrest,
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to see if it could provide any
clues as to how Natalie died.
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Andrew Pearson was
asked for his PIN number
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to access that phone.
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He refused to give that PIN
number, even though he was told
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it could be an offense and he
could be prosecuted for not
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providing the PIN number.
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Again, that raised
even more suspicion
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as to why Andrew Pearson
wasn't assisting the police.
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I believed at that point that
that phone could be really
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key to our investigation.
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It was really key that
that phone forensically
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examined as soon as possible to
try and provide some evidence
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to support the investigation.
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While Andrew
was still in custody,
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the post-mortem
results came in.
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At this stage
of the investigation,
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the Crown Prosecution
Service would have
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asked for a cause of death.
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Unfortunately,
the forensic post-mortem
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was inconclusive at that time.
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The initial
post-mortem examination
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confirmed that Natalie
had several broken ribs,
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consistent with
Andrews account,
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that he administered CPR,
but was not able to confirm
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a definitive cause of death.
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The forensic pathologist
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needed some more
investigations conducted,
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which included histology,
toxicology, and
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also to check
for isotopes that may
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have been in Natalie's body.
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Isotopes are unique
to different bodies of water,
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and obviously, if Natalie
had been in the stream,
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I would expect isotopes
from the stream
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to be Natalie's system.
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The police
were still no closer
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to discovering if this had
been a terrible accident,
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and Natalie had fallen into
the stream, as Andrew claimed,
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or if she had been pushed.
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I was left
in a very difficult position.
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Andrew Pearson's
account was partly
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supported by the forensic
pathology report.
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However, more
investigation needed doing.
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Those investigations
were going to take
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days, weeks, and months.
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For myself
and the investigation team,
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it was really frustrating
that we were not
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in a position to charge Andrew
Pearson with Natalie's murder.
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We were now left
in a position where
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I had to bail him with
safeguarding conditions
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until those investigations
could take place.
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In October
2019, Andrew Pearson
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was arrested for the suspected
murder of his girlfriend,
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Natalie Harker.
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You're under arrest
on suspicion of murder, OK?
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You understand?
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I'm just going to put some
cuffs on you at the moment.
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But when
questioned, he wouldn't talk.
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And with no clear
cause of death,
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police were forced
to release him on bail.
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Behind the scenes, detectives
raced to uncover the truth.
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Had Natalie slipped
and fallen into the stream,
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as Pearson claimed, or had
Andrew pushed her to her death?
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It was a really tense time
for the investigation team
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and for myself as a senior
investigating officer.
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We knew that we'd potentially
had a really dangerous man
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on bail, albeit with
safeguarding conditions,
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that we had to work really
hard to get back into custody.
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At this point, all
the police had to go
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on where their suspicions.
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But of course,
that is not enough.
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They needed hard
evidence and they
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wanted to try and piece
together a timeline, really,
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from locations, phone records
as a way of trying to establish
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the facts of what happened.
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We all felt a lot
of anger when we found out
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that the police
had released him,
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because we all had a feeling
that he'd maybe done it.
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We were all worried
as to how or
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what Andrew was going
to do when he was
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released from police custody.
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While police awaited
further postmortem tests and
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the forensic results
from Andrew's cell phone,
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detectives began
digging into Natalie
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and Andrew's relationship.
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What we discovered was
that within a few weeks or
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months of Andrew Pearson,
Natalie Harker becoming
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involved in a relationship,
Andrew lost his job
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and he spent most of his time
gaming on games consoles,
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and he became more and more
dependent on Natalie.
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While Natalie was securing
the finances with two jobs,
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she would pester him
to try and get a job,
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but he refused
to do so and even
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told a friend that
he wouldn't be
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told by Natalie to get a job.
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Natalie got sick
and tired of always
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having to pay for the cinema,
meals out, days out,
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and things like that
as he never had any money.
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As police continue
to question friends and
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family about
their relationship,
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some concerning
information came to light.
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We found out that
Andrew Pearson started
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to separate Natalie from
her friends and family,
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and he became very
controlling over Natalie.
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He determined
when she could see
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people who she
could see and really
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controlled a lot of her life.
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Natalie's friends definitely
noticed a change in her.
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They said that she changed
her personality the way
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that she dressed,
and just became
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a lot more disengaged from
her social life, her church,
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which she had been
really heavily involved
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with in the community.
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During the course
of the relationship,
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Pearson becomes increasingly
reliant on Natalie financially,
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emotionally, and then
on top of that,
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he starts restricting
her freedom of movement.
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And you often see
that in relationships
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that involve coercive
control, people
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do this to isolate
their partner
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intentionally so they can have
greater control over them.
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Pearson is clearly
insecure about the fact
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that he's not bringing
anything to this relationship.
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And so by coercively
controlling,
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by manipulating her, he's
able to feel some power when
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he's actually probably
feeling quite powerless
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in the rest of his life.
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18 months
into her relationship
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with Andrew, Natalie had turned
to her family for advice.
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Natalie had come
to me, mom, and dad,
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and spoken to us about
she wasn't feeling
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happy in the relationship, so
the three of us and Natalie all
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decided if she wasn't happy in
her marriage to call it quits.
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She text Pearson
saying the relationship
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was over, to not get
in contact with her again,
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and it had taken a lot
for her to get to this point.
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She was really optimistic,
looking forward
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to a fresh start in life.
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At the start, we thought
that Andrew had taken
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the break up really well.
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It was only afterwards we
discovered that he hadn't.
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Pearson bombarded Natalie's
phone with text messages.
503
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,200
He refused to accept
her decision
504
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,680
and he wasn't going
to take no for an answer.
505
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:50,839
He would get friends
and family to message her.
506
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,680
He would send her
messages on social media
507
00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:57,039
and actually bump into her
to and from her workplace.
508
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,799
Natalie is understandably
trying to fully
509
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:01,599
disengage at this point.
510
00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:03,960
She's not responding
to any of the messages,
511
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,759
and you can understand
why this needs to sort
512
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,960
of be a cut and dry moment.
513
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,640
People normally go through
high emotional stress periods,
514
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,279
and then it sort of just
starts to fade out.
515
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,799
That's the normal
way of a breakup.
516
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,160
But in the case
of Andrew Pearson,
517
00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:21,880
this does the opposite
because this
518
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:25,119
isn't so much about the breakup
or the loss of love.
519
00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,559
For him, this is
the loss of control.
520
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,200
And so now, not having even
the ability to raise a response
521
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,240
from Natalie, that's going
to be infuriating to someone
522
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,359
like Andrew Pearson.
523
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:41,599
When Andrew's tactics
failed to win Natalie back,
524
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,000
he posted a message
on social media.
525
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,960
In that message, he
526
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,279
portrayed Natalie to be
the bad person, a person who
527
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,640
was stringing him
along, using him,
528
00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:55,880
and that he was a perfect
gentleman in that relationship.
529
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:57,960
What he was trying
to do, in my view,
530
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,440
was to soil Natalie's name so
that if he couldn't have her,
531
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:04,599
nobody else would want her.
532
00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:08,000
Andrew Pearson is
clearly narcissistic.
533
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,200
He has these extreme
senses of grandiosity,
534
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,440
and so someone like that
being broken up with
535
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:17,799
shakes them to their core,
because what
536
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,599
our internal feelings
of inadequacy,
537
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:22,440
it brings them to the surface.
538
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,640
And anyone who exposes
that inadequacy
539
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:29,279
is immediately an enemy
to someone like Pearson.
540
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,920
What he's doing
at this point is just
541
00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:35,319
another way of him trying
to assert control over her,
542
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,799
over the narrative
of their relationship,
543
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,839
and positioning
himself as the victim.
544
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:44,039
When Natalie didn't
respond to the message,
545
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,799
Andrew's behavior took
a turn for the worse.
546
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,400
Andrew Pearson's
attitude towards Natalie
547
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:52,000
completely changed.
548
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,440
He now escalated to sending
a really nasty text messages
549
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:58,759
to upset her and to blame
her for the breakup
550
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,359
of the relationship.
551
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:02,319
Andrew was saying
that he was going
552
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,279
to reveal that Natalie
had been sleeping around
553
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,920
during their relationship.
554
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:07,640
I could not get
my head around why
555
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:11,640
anybody, let alone somebody
that claimed to love them,
556
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:13,200
would do that.
557
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,200
Made me really, really angry.
558
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,599
This resulted
on the 18th of September,
559
00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:21,720
Natalie sending Andrew
Pearson a message saying that
560
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,039
the relationship was finished
and pleading with him to leave
561
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,400
her alone, not
to contact her, and
562
00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:29,720
not to turn up at her at work.
563
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,799
In the aftermath
of the breakup,
564
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,880
Natalie tried to move
on with her life.
565
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:37,640
Friends of Natalie saw
a real positive change
566
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,319
in her whole demeanor having
ended the relationship
567
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,319
with Andrew Pearson.
568
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,440
She was wearing makeup.
569
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:43,960
She was doing more
things socially.
570
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,759
She was going to church
more, going to church events.
571
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,839
But Andrew
continued to harass her.
572
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,200
She mentioned
to a number of people, friends,
573
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,480
people from church,
work colleagues,
574
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,000
that Andrew Pearson
was concerning her
575
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,319
by turning up unexpectedly
at her workplace
576
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,640
or bumping into her when she
was going to or from work.
577
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:06,079
It was really apparent
that his behavior
578
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,240
was escalating
quite dangerously
579
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,359
to stalking behavior.
580
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,039
Natalie told
her family and friends
581
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,480
that she thought when
she cut off contact,
582
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,119
this would all just go away.
583
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,960
But Pearson was
really relentless.
584
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,680
He would not leave
Natalie alone
585
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:23,720
and she was getting frightened.
586
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,480
She told friends that she never
knew what he was capable of
587
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,359
and that he had a really
volatile personality.
588
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,720
After Natalie
had finished with them,
589
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,039
she'd said to me, "what
do I do if I see Andrew?"
590
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,839
And I said to her, "all you
need to do is if you see him,
591
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,960
walk away, go to somewhere
where there's lots of people,
592
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:45,200
and you'll be all right."
593
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:47,000
At this point, I
felt very angry
594
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,559
towards Andrew, as I
didn't know why he
595
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,079
wouldn't leave Natalie alone.
596
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,319
And now Natalie
597
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,000
has fully cut
contact with Andrew,
598
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,039
he is now escalating his
behavior even further
599
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,680
because this is just
another step of his control
600
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:02,400
being challenged.
601
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:05,960
He's obsessing over the end
of this relationship,
602
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:07,559
this loss of control.
603
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,519
And so this is his way of
trying to strike fear into her.
604
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,240
And it's working.
605
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,359
We didn't know
at the time that Andrew
606
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:19,759
was stalking Natalie and
turning up at her workplace.
607
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,839
Natalie was a very
independent person.
608
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,079
She didn't tell us
about what was going on
609
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,720
as she felt that we were going
to start not letting her go out
610
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,480
on a bike and taking
her to places,
611
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,160
and that would have taken
her independence away.
612
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:36,079
We now had a really
good understanding
613
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,680
of Andrew Pearson's
behavior towards Natalie,
614
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:42,880
and he developed
a motive to harm Natalie.
615
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:47,160
Natalie was so concerned about
Andrew Pearson's behavior
616
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:49,119
that she warned him that she
would report him to the police
617
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:51,000
if he didn't leave her alone.
618
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,519
Unfortunately, she never did.
619
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,680
Despite
the damning testimony
620
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,440
police had gathered about
Andrew's controlling and
621
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:01,599
threatening behavior, it
wasn't enough to prove
622
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:03,839
that he had murdered Natalie.
623
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,640
But then came a major
breakthrough in the case.
624
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:09,279
The forensic
examination managed to get
625
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,960
into Andrew Pearson's phone.
626
00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:14,000
What we discovered
were a series
627
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,039
of photographs that
had been deleted,
628
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,880
but were managed
to be recovered.
629
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:20,079
And that showed
that Andrew Pearson
630
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,759
had been plotting some week
or so before Natalie's death.
631
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,920
Evidence showed that he'd been
photographing up the cycle
632
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,720
path, down the cycle
path, which
633
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,000
gave alternate views
of what he could see
634
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,240
and what Natalie could see as
she was cycling down the path.
635
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,759
They photographed the gateway,
the field, the barbed wire
636
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,720
fence, through the wooded
area, over the stream,
637
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,880
and up to the area where
Andrew Pearson would
638
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:47,519
eventually pitch his tent.
639
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,640
The discovery
of the photographs
640
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:51,400
taken from Andrew
Pearson's phone
641
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:53,880
was a key missing piece
of the investigation.
642
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:57,839
These photos just go to show
exactly how obsessive Pearson
643
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,519
was becoming, because this is
now someone who is not just
644
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,000
mentally stewing
on this breakup
645
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,240
and becoming
internally frustrated.
646
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,960
This is someone who's now
actively planning ways to scare
647
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:13,039
and potentially hurt
their ex-partner.
648
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,000
These pictures are evidence
that Pearson's initial account
649
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,480
of what occurred
that he just had
650
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,799
a chance meeting with
Natalie along the path
651
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,400
is total nonsense.
652
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:24,960
These pictures prove that
this is premeditated,
653
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:28,839
this is planned, and Pearson
can no longer be believed.
654
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,720
The phone data also
provided critical information
655
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,799
about Andrew's
whereabouts in the days
656
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,440
leading up to Natalie's death.
657
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,720
Further
evidence gained from the phone
658
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,559
was cell site evidence.
659
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,599
We can show that the morning
before Natalie was murdered,
660
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:47,359
he'd been in the field
or at the gate,
661
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:50,599
watching when Natalie cycled
past on her way to work,
662
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:53,720
so he knew exactly the time
that she would pass.
663
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,279
Almost a dry run
for the events that would take
664
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,960
place the following day.
665
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:02,039
This showed that, contrary to
what Andrew Pearson had stated,
666
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,359
where he said that he'd
been camping out in the days
667
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,000
before he met Natalie
on that cycle path.
668
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,720
In actual fact, he hadn't.
669
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,200
The night before
Natalie was murdered,
670
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:13,240
he was actually at home in bed.
671
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,279
We could also evidence
from his phone
672
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,839
that Andrew Pearson had set his
alarm that morning, so he could
673
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,640
get down to the scene
and be there
674
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:23,319
in preparation when Natalie
cycled down that cycle path.
675
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,279
This was not a chance
meeting with Natalie.
676
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,480
This data shows
that this is clearly
677
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,240
someone who has methodically
mapped out exactly
678
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,720
what he intends to happen.
679
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,920
And it's really sinister.
680
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:36,400
It's really chilling.
681
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,359
It's very telling of his
mental state at that moment.
682
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:43,440
This is someone out to attack,
out to assert their control.
683
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,279
As police continue
to build their case,
684
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,519
another key piece
of evidence surfaced
685
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,079
from the morning Natalie died.
686
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,559
Further examination
of Andrew Pearson's mobile
687
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,119
telephone showed
that it was powered
688
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:59,319
down at 7:12 AM that morning.
689
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,119
Andrew Pearson claims that
when he got back to the tent
690
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:04,279
and having taken
Natalie's clothing off,
691
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,920
he collapsed his
unconscious for a number
692
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,599
of hours due to severe
back pain that he suffered.
693
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:10,599
Even though Andrew
Pearson had powered down
694
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:13,680
his mobile telephone, another
device in his possession
695
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:15,599
showed that he was
actually moving
696
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:16,920
around the field
at a point where
697
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:18,680
he claims to be unconscious.
698
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:21,039
This just demonstrated that
Andrew Pearson's account
699
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,599
was completely untrue.
700
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,039
But what police
would discover next would be
701
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,559
the most damning evidence yet.
702
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,559
The next inconsistency
in Andrew Pearson's account
703
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,680
was that he claimed, having
gone unconscious next
704
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:34,839
to Natalie, he
woke up because he
705
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,359
received a call on his
mobile telephone
706
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:38,279
from a friend in America.
707
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,559
However, the evidence showed
that having powered up his
708
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,440
mobile telephone at 3:06
PM in the afternoon,
709
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:46,759
he actually tried
to make a video
710
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,440
call to a friend in America.
711
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:52,480
This video call was either
rejected or not connected.
712
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,319
Andrew Pearson then sends
a text to his friend in America
713
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,039
saying, "goodbye,
I've killed Natalie.
714
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,960
I'm going to hand myself in."
715
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:05,279
Even though Andrew Pearson
had deleted the iPhone message
716
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,440
in an effort to destroy
the evidence,
717
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,719
the forensic examiners were
able to recover the message.
718
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,800
The iPhone message
led to his friend
719
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,960
in America phoning
Andrew Pearson.
720
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:18,960
Then followed a long
telephone conversation,
721
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:20,599
during which Andrew
Pearson tells
722
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,960
him that Natalie had fallen
into the stream and had died.
723
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:27,960
The friend tells Andrew
Pearson to contact the police.
724
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:31,760
As the senior investigating
officer for this investigation,
725
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,559
this was a massive
breakthrough.
726
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,039
This suggested
to me that this was
727
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,719
a pre-planned,
premeditated kidnap
728
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,960
and murder of Natalie Harker.
729
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Investigators
were finally
730
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,440
able to piece
together what happened
731
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,159
on the day Natalie died.
732
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,840
Had she fallen to her
death, as Pearson suggested?
733
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Or was she murdered?
734
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Based now on all
this new evidence,
735
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,119
I believe that
Andrew Pearson had
736
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,559
waited down that cycle path.
737
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,559
And when she
cycled towards him,
738
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,039
he jumped out, dragged
Natalie off the bike,
739
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:08,320
and then forced her over
the fence, across the field,
740
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,760
through the thicket
to the stream.
741
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,480
I believe, at some
point, Andrew Pearson
742
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:15,960
had tried to drown
Natalie in the stream.
743
00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:18,199
He's then taken
to his tent where
744
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,239
he stripped of her clothing.
745
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,199
Once in his tent, I
believe Andrew Pearson
746
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,239
has powered down his phone
to try and hide his location.
747
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,280
From the point of the kidnap of
Natalie at 4:45 AM to the 999
748
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,760
call is some 12 hours.
749
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,559
I believe that
Andrew Pearson had
750
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,480
to remain in the tent
with Natalie's body
751
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:38,119
because he was disturbed by
some men working in the woods.
752
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,039
That meant he couldn't
emerge from the tent
753
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:41,960
for fear of being seen.
754
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:44,599
With all of the evidence from
the breakup of the relationship
755
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,639
between Andrew
Pearson and Natalie,
756
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,119
from the evidence of Andrew
Pearson stalking Natalie
757
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,639
to the mobile
telephone, which showed
758
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,480
the movements
of Andrew Pearson,
759
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:57,440
I felt it was a really
strong position
760
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,960
to re-arrest Andrew Pearson
for the offense of kidnap
761
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:01,239
and murder of Natalie Harker.
762
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:12,880
By late October 2019,
Andrew Pearson was out on bail,
763
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:15,400
claiming that Natalie
had died after slipping
764
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:17,760
and falling into a stream.
765
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,239
But behind
the scenes, detectives
766
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,920
were building a case,
one that pointed
767
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:26,159
not to a tragic
accident, but to murder.
768
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,440
Police now had evidence
which included the photographs
769
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:33,159
of the cycle path,
messages which Pearson
770
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,679
had deleted from his
friend in America,
771
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,960
and also evidence
from his devices
772
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:40,119
which showed that
he'd been on the move
773
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,639
when he claimed he'd
been unconscious.
774
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,760
And the police also had
the evidence of their breakup
775
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,119
as the motive.
776
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,920
So all the jigsaw pieces
were there for them
777
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:53,519
to re-arrest and charge
Pearson with the kidnapping
778
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:54,679
and murder of Natalie.
779
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,039
I
deployed officers
780
00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:59,280
early one morning to go
to his family home
781
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,599
to make that arrest.
782
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,199
Those officers
told me he'd made
783
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,760
no reaction to that arrest.
784
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,039
When I found out
that Andrew had
785
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:09,400
been re-arrested
on charges of murder,
786
00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:11,239
I felt very, very happy.
787
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,599
I thought to myself,
"they've got the--"
788
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Andrew was taken
to Harrogate Police Station
789
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:19,480
and interviewed
by detectives who
790
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:23,159
presented the overwhelming
evidence they had against him
791
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,480
that they believed
proved Pearson had
792
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,559
pushed Natalie to her death.
793
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:30,639
He
continued to be disengaged
794
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,400
from the interviewing officers,
and failed to respond to any
795
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:34,920
of the questions posed to him.
796
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:37,639
Despite all this new
evidence that was put to him,
797
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,480
this continued to demonstrate
to me that Andrew Pearson
798
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:42,119
was guilty of this offense.
799
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:46,280
Following those final
interviews with Andrew Pearson,
800
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,239
we approached the Crown
Prosecution Service
801
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,760
asking for charges of kidnap
and murder of Natalie Harker.
802
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,119
Those were authorized
and Andrew Pearson was charged
803
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,239
and remanded into custody.
804
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,800
In the months
that followed,
805
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,159
police continued
to build their case
806
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,679
to try and prove that
Andrew had kidnapped and
807
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,719
killed Natalie in cold blood.
808
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:11,320
But there was still no
definitive cause of death
809
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,320
until the forensic
pathologist's
810
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,960
full report finally came in.
811
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,960
The evidence showed
that Natalie Harker
812
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:22,800
had died as a result of neck
injuries, and the fact
813
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,400
that both her mouth and nose
had been submerged under water.
814
00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:28,199
Natalie's cause
of death was a result
815
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,360
of strangulation and drowning.
816
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:33,079
To identify
the location
817
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,159
where Natalie was murdered,
an isotope analysis
818
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,039
of the water in her
lungs had also
819
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,119
been carried out and examined.
820
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,719
The isotopes
within Natalie's system matched
821
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,039
those from the stream close
to where Andrew Pearson
822
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:47,199
had pitched his tent.
823
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,639
The pathology
results concluded
824
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,320
there was no evidence
of a brain injury,
825
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,639
despite Andrew's claim that
she had fallen into the stream.
826
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,400
All
of the forensic evidence
827
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:01,119
and the evidence
gained from the scene
828
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,239
didn't show that Natalie
had fallen into the stream.
829
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,960
My belief is Andrew Pearson
dragged Natalie to that stream
830
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:09,920
and tried to drown her.
831
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:11,719
Armed with
evidence that Andrew
832
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,719
had pushed Natalie
underwater and drowned her,
833
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,719
police received further
devastating details
834
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,760
about Pearson's actions
on the day Natalie died.
835
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,199
So the initial
post-mortem report suggested
836
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,559
that there had been some sexual
activity that had taken place.
837
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,000
Pearson raping Natalie
838
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,360
is just another way that
he is yet again trying
839
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:35,800
to assert control
over her because he
840
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,280
is physically, in that
moment, dominating her.
841
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,599
And I think this is just
another element where you're
842
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,760
seeing how insidious and how
controlling this person
843
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,199
really is.
844
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,719
Pearson was in the tent
with Natalie for hours.
845
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,480
And this was a person who
he claimed to have loved.
846
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,880
At Teesside Crown
Court in November 2020,
847
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:03,719
almost a year after his
arrest, Andrew Pearson
848
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,559
stood trial for the murder
of Natalie Harker.
849
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,920
We're in the courtroom.
850
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:11,079
We heard the 999 call
that Andrew had made.
851
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,400
And I remember thinking
to myself, "you little--
852
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:17,639
how dare you make yourself
look like a victim?"
853
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,719
Despite all
of this overwhelming evidence,
854
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,519
the fact of the mobile
telephone,
855
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,760
the fact of the history, all
of the forensic evidence,
856
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,840
Andrew Pearson continued to
deny the fact that he kidnapped
857
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,840
and murdered Natalie Harker.
858
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,400
In court, he stuck by the story
that they'd met together.
859
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:38,079
They'd walked across the field,
they'd had sex in the field,
860
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,400
and then she'd fallen
into the stream by accident,
861
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,159
following which he
dragged her to the tent.
862
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:47,119
The jury to sit through and
listen to all of the evidence,
863
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,599
first from the prosecution
and then the defense.
864
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,079
It was harrowing evidence.
865
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,760
But not only the jury.
866
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,920
Natalie Harker's family had to
sit through the evidence, too.
867
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:56,880
So it was really
tough for them.
868
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:58,360
When we were
in the courtroom listening
869
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:01,679
to all the evidence
brought against Andrew,
870
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,840
I kept looking
over at him and I
871
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,039
saw absolutely no
emotion whatsoever,
872
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:11,559
no remorse, no anything,
just a blank expression.
873
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,360
Going into the trial,
I felt really confident
874
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,119
in the investigation
that team had conducted.
875
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,159
The evidence was overwhelming.
876
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,280
However, it's a jury trial.
877
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,000
The jury have to listen to both
the prosecution case and
878
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:25,880
the defense case,
and then have to make up
879
00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:27,679
their own minds
based on the evidence
880
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,400
as to what they believe.
881
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,920
The jury heard evidence for
over three weeks in this trial,
882
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:36,360
yet they took just three
hours to return a verdict.
883
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,880
Andrew
Pearson was found guilty
884
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:43,440
and sentenced to life
in prison with a minimum
885
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:48,079
of 25 years for the kidnap
and murder of Natalie Harker.
886
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,639
When
the jury came back
887
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,840
with a guilty verdict,
it was a massive relief
888
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,360
both to the investigation
team and Natalie's family.
889
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,199
When we heard
the verdict, I was at home
890
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,760
with my mother and my father
rang me and said,
891
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,079
"they've got him."
892
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,599
And I jumped up and I
said, "we've finally
893
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,320
got justice for Natalie.
894
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,559
They've got
the little bastard."
895
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,480
Both my mom and dad were
feeling very, very happy,
896
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:12,159
as was sad but we
were all still
897
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,599
very numb and very hollow.
898
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,800
At no point through
this whole process,
899
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,719
from Andrew Pearson
being arrested
900
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,719
to the point he was
sentenced by a judge,
901
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,920
did he show any
remorse for the kidnap
902
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:24,639
and murder of Natalie Harker.
903
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,559
As a murder detective, I have
investigated lots of murders.
904
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,039
However, this was quite
striking in the fact
905
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:34,039
that Andrew Pearson
sought revenge on Natalie.
906
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:36,039
Andrew Pearson controlled
the relationship
907
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:37,280
with Natalie Harker.
908
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,880
However, once she got
that control back,
909
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:42,039
he couldn't cope with that.
910
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:46,639
This was a matter of power,
revenge against Natalie Harker.
911
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,599
This is just such
a tragic and upsetting case.
912
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,639
You have this young
woman that was trying
913
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,000
to leave this relationship
with such an abusive man,
914
00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:59,280
and you just hope
that the verdict
915
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,360
gave her family a real sense
of justice and closure.
916
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,960
In the years following
917
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:12,320
Natalie Harker's
death, her memory
918
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,679
lives on through her
friends and family.
919
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,360
We got
a commemorative bench
920
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:21,000
in Natalie's favorite
place, the church.
921
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:23,559
It's a lovely place
to go and sit and
922
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,880
contemplate Natalie,
just think about how
923
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:30,480
much of a lovely young lady
she was, how happy and kind
924
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,079
she was, all the friends
she's left behind,
925
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,760
and the family that
she's left behind.
926
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:41,880
I'll go and visit the bench
on Natalie's birthday
927
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:44,199
or the anniversary
of when she was killed,
928
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,039
and think about how
bright, beautiful,
929
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:49,760
and amazing of a sister
she really was.
930
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,960
When me and my wife
Amanda got married,
931
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:57,719
Natalie would have been
a big part of this.
932
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,840
But with the life
being so cruelly taken,
933
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,159
we decided that we'd have some
photos taken by a memorial
934
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,199
bench so that it felt like
she was part of the day
935
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,440
and part of our lives.
936
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:16,960
She was a kind, loving
human being with so
937
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,039
much love and life to give.
938
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:23,840
And that's how I'd like
my sister to be remembered.
75616
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