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If rocks could talk, oh, what stories
they could tell.
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Here in the early part of the 21st
century, on the small Greek island of
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Astapalia, Dr. Andreas Vlahopoulos, a
noted archaeologist,
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found rocks here that told an ancient
story of same sex.
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The markings chiseled into the limestone
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say that 2,500 years ago, two men were
having sex here on this spot.
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They memorialized their love the way
lovers still do.
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Some would say that theirs was an
unnatural act. I know that charge
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firsthand as I was arrested for
soliciting another man to commit an
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unnatural act.
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It was Boston.
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1975.
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A jury, dressed up to celebrate an Irish
Catholic holiday, convicted me.
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Then and now, I never thought my
same-sex desires were unnatural.
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And neither did they when they
proclaimed their love centuries before
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the word homosexual was invented.
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We know experiences in which people
clearly desired same-sex relationships
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that went beyond the norm of
heterosexual relations.
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Lesbians, gays, transvestites,
transgenders existed in Asia for
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centuries.
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And I find so much of same-sex
references, etc., in our temples,
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depictions.
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The how
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and
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why we were able to rediscover so much
ancient same-sex material just recently
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is in itself an exciting part of our
story.
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All of my work in the ancient world is
based on archives of an ancient sort
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because without preserving this, our
lives are totally wiped
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out. You know, each fragment, I mean, it
depends upon each fragment of
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information being saved.
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What was it about people like me that so
disturbed so many
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others?
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Was it fear?
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Affect?
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And what made so many lovers hide?
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Was it shame?
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Or the despicable acts committed against
people like me?
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Some material we found is pretty ugly.
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It's part of the story.
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But I find myself drawn more to the
beauty from our past, the heroism, an
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ability to struggle, to survive, and
even flourish.
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To insist, we will be remembered.
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There are monuments now to our dead.
Berlin has a big concrete vault.
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to commemorate the many homosexuals who
were murdered by the Nazis.
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But what picks me up are the monuments
to our cultural artifacts.
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This one, across town, preserves the
traces of our vivid path.
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In Amsterdam, on my way to lecture about
gay history,
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I lay flowers at another monument to the
gay dead.
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But suffering is just a part of our
history. People are being arrested,
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hung, killed and also celebrated all
over the world.
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And stories are being told and history
is being made.
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The thing about history being...
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circular, is that yes, history repeats
itself, but the circles get bigger and
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bigger and bigger, and at some point you
better be sure that it doesn't go off
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the fucking edge.
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The Nazis burnt the first gay film ever
made.
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Some brave soul saved a copy. We found
it hidden in Prague.
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And so the circle repeats, making,
destroying, hiding, and saving.
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We started with an old shoebox.
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This says René Vivian, 1906, this one
here.
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I'm teaching in my class how local
resistance was organized to fight.
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When C.P. Kefafi, the famous Greek poet,
wrote Hidden Things in 1908, He must
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have expected that someday somebody
would find it.
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From all I did and all I said, let no
one try to find out who I was.
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The past, as Qafafi says, is not
finished.
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Later, in a more perfect society,
someone else, made just like me, is
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certain to appear and act freely.
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During the 60s, like many students, I
was involved in the anti-Vietnam War
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movement. Free speech and academic free
speech here at the university.
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For me, it was also a time of the sexual
revolution.
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Free love was in the air and the Kama
Sutra was fast becoming our Bible.
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But I knew then that some things had
been left out.
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They just don't have that chapter. So
most people are not aware that that
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chapter is there.
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Even the glossy coffee table kind of
versions of the Kama Sutra that float
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around in the West, they're all
heterosexualized. You don't have this
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stuff in it. So people don't know this
about the tradition.
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There's a chapter in the Kama Sutra. It
divides people into men who desire women
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and men who desire other men. And then
goes on to give a very detailed
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description of oral sex, like sucking a
mango and so on. Quite non-judgmental
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and even quite playful.
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But back in the early 1980s, when three
young producers, including myself,
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began to make the film before Stonewall,
we ran into some obstacles.
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We weren't able to do...
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Anything earlier than 1920, when we did
Before Stonewall, basically
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there was hardly any material.
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Who gets to define and analyze history?
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With the gay revolution of the 1990s in
academia and anthropology, all of a
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sudden gay folks in these worlds had
influence.
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That is, they had tenure at
universities, grants for research, and
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the like.
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which meant a new focus on same-sex
history.
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Anti-gay forces tried to suppress any
knowledge of the historical existence of
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gay people or gay feelings or any kind
of self-expression of those feelings.
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So just excavating them and getting them
back from under the years of
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neglect and censorship was a way of
saying...
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We are here.
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But gay and lesbian academics of the
1990s did more than find and save
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material. They also went about
reinterpreting some of the classic
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stories with a gay sensibility.
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Michelangelo's David is a titanic work
of art in the Renaissance as an
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artistic culture.
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Now, what it means to me personally, he
is...
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David, not only the killer of Goliath,
but David, the lover of Jonathan.
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David, who says when Jonathan dies, your
love to me was more beautiful than that
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of women.
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Then Jonathan and David made a covenant
because he loved him as his own soul.
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And Jonathan stripped himself of the
robe that was upon him and gave it to
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David.
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Certain individuals would live those
desires out, even in the face of taboos
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or laws.
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And so we've come with that heritage up
to the present time.
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that we could have begun before
Stonewall thousands of years ago in the
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caves of Zimbabwe or under the streets
in Prague.
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One thing has become very clear.
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Genes don't lie.
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Our genes have been around for a long
time, and so have the gay genes.
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If you're talking about Neanderthal men,
they probably had gay genes too.
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What the research shows is that sexual
orientation has a strong genetic basis.
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It's the most important single
contributor to whether people are
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attracted to members of the opposite sex
or the same sex or to both sexes. And
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since our genes have not changed over
the last 50,000 years, we can be sure
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that there were gay genes and bisexual
genes and lesbian genes long, long, long
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before the word homosexual was invented.
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Even the scientific community kept from
us information about our closest genetic
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relative, the fun-loving bonobo.
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The bonobo life is the life of the
sexual candy store.
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When I was invited to do this lecture, I
realized many of you don't even know the
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difference between a monkey and an ape,
let alone a bonobo and a LGBTQ.
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They not only use sex for everything,
they have sex with everyone.
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Male, male, female, female.
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I'll show you some footage.
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The males will hang from trees and
they'll do what's called penis fencing.
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They fence.
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Bonobos substitute sex for aggression,
so do male homos.
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Actually, gay men substitute sex for
everything.
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I mean, it's a lovely thing.
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The bonobos are us without repression,
religion, and shame.
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I think the first thing to say about
same-sex relationships in the ancient
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world is that they're quite different.
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Islamic law prohibited same-sex
relationships for men, male
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homosexuality explicitly.
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In practice, same-sex relations were
common cultural practices.
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There's a finely nuanced slang
vocabulary for all sorts of gay sex
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acts, but no word for homosexuals.
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The people of Huizhou call it treading
on dofu.
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The people of Jiangxi call it casting a
crucible.
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The people of Ningbo call it good, good.
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Perhaps the best example of male
intimacy, the most controversial
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example, is the tomb chapel of Neacnum
and Cnumhotep, and comes from around
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2400 BC.
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On the walls of the tomb chapel, the
usual iconographic position that's taken
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by the man and his wife isn't taken by a
man and a woman in this tomb. It's taken
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by the two separate tomb owners, Neacnum
and Cnumhotep. And the central images...
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in the iconography show these two men
embracing and kissing.
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We do have a few examples of less formal
texts and works of art.
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There's also a long so-called erotic
papyrus. It's there for a bit of
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frivolous filth, I think.
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Many of our ancient myths and stories
come down to us somewhat embellished.
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with bigger-than-life heroes.
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These stories tended to downplay
same-sex activities.
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However, in the 21st century, same-sex
myths were being reconstructed,
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especially in the world of gay fan art.
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First, let me tell you what the story's
about.
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Stay with me now.
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Horace was the god of the sky, Set the
god of the desert.
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For years they fought for dominance and
the throne.
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One day Set tells Horace, how lovely is
your backside.
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And soon the two are locked, penis and
thighs, with Set taking the top role.
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Now what Set doesn't know, in the
clinch, Horace grabs his semen and
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throws it in the river.
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Then Horace masturbates on some lettuce,
which happens to be Set's favorite food.
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Later on, Set's bragging to the other
gods that Horace submitted to his
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seduction. And as proof, Set summons his
semen, but it springs forth from the
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river.
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When Horace summons his semen, it
springs from Set's forehead in the form
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of a golden disc, proving his dominance.
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Thus did Horace become king.
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But in ancient Greece, same-sex was very
much a part of the culture.
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The Greeks were moving in a direction
that you might say mainstreamed
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sexuality.
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In Athens, same-sex relationships
between free-born men were sort of
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official rite of passage.
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Once it's more accepting, more other gay
people can express themselves, can be
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out, perhaps more likely to come into a
position of power.
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So this is sort of a classic example of
how biology and culture can feed upon
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one another.
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Amongst the Greeks, who had a homosexual
orientation, I'm sure some of them came
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into positions of power.
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Some say the gays saved democracy.
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One pair of lovers was credited with the
reestablishment of Athenian
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democracy.
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Their story is quite unique.
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They were lovers.
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Aristogiton was the Erastes of
Hermodius, and Hermodius was
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his Romanos. The younger one, Hermodius,
was offended by one of the rulers of
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Athens at the time, Hipparchus.
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And they decided to kill.
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Hipparchus, and they managed to do so,
but they died in the process.
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Hipparchus' murder was a political event
because that was the end of tyranny and
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opened the road to democracy, as it
were.
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The statues were set in the middle of
the area.
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Until then, this place has had statues
only of the frauds. These are the first
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statues of men in public places.
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What has always impressed me was the
Greeks' ability, both for men and women,
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by the way, to fold into the pattern of
being human as a perfectly normal
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and natural thing, same-sex desires.
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And then, of course, famously, there's
Sappho.
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Would you like me to recite a Sappho
poem in Greek?
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Do you know one? Oh, yeah. Just like
that? Oh, yeah.
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Her life is shrouded in mystery.
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In the Roman period,
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there begins to be
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condemnation of her life because of the
view that she had relations with women.
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Now unfortunately, of her six books,
only two short
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poems have come down to a complete.
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Oh, this.
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This only stirs the troubled heart in my
breath to tremble.
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Sweat runs down in rivers. A tremor
seizes all my limbs. And paler than
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grass in autumn, caught by pains of
menacing death, I falter, lost
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in the love trance.
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A love circle.
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But in Rome, different rules apply.
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As a Roman, you can sleep with whoever
you want.
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It doesn't matter who you sleep with,
but how you do it.
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And it's all about reinforcing
dominance.
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So you have to be the active, the
penetrating partner.
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And you can do it with whoever.
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But I found, by looking at the Roman
world as a whole, that other people knew
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that women had relations with other
women.
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I think there's very little we know
about same-sex relationships between
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women.
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So people didn't assume that it even
existed in ancient times.
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So I had to establish that there even
was such a phenomenon in the Roman
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world.
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The examples that to me were the
clearest were love spells that women
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commissioned to attract other women.
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The love spell is actually in the
category of what are called binding
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spells.
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So these are very racy love spells.
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So you call upon what we would call the
soul of a person who has died to go
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forth and grab another person and bind
the person to you.
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So one woman tries to get the person
into the bathhouse, make her love her
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day and night and desire nothing but
her.
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Listen and do everything quickly, in no
way opposing me in the performance of
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this action.
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Burn. Set on fire.
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Inflame, inflame her soul, heart, liver,
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spirit with love.
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Drive her, torment her body, night and
day.
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She surrenders like a slave because this
is the will and command of the great
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God.
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The ancient world was full of highly
charged erotic images like the Bourne
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Cup. That's a silver cup that was made
perhaps in the time of Augustus.
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And this cup was bought by the British
Museum in 1999.
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It was at the time the most expensive
single item they had bought.
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They'd been offered it in the 1950s, but
they couldn't buy it because the
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material was too risqué.
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On one side, we have the traditional
scene of an older man with a young boy.
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The older man has a beard, and the young
boy is holding onto a sling, and they're
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very obviously having sex.
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And peeking around a curtain is another
young man who may be a slave. We don't
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know who he is. Who's watching them?
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And we're still watching.
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The Roman emperor Hadrian started it all
off with his obsessive love for a slave
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named Antoninus.
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the cult that developed after Antinous'
death.
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That was unusual.
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And they put up statues of Antinous in
their villas and in their cities.
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And this cult of Antinous continued into
the 21st century.
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So Memoirs of Hadrian is a novel by
Marguerite Yourcenar.
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its conceit is that it is the actual
memoir of the roman emperor hadrian
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i see a head bending under its dark mass
of hair
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eyes which seemed slanting so long were
the lids a
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young face broadly formed as if for
repose
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Yes, the gay liberation movement creates
more interest and you can talk about it.
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There's a certain danger in looking back
at antiquity and seeing these things as
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a sort of model or something to aspire
to.
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Well, I wanted to show that there were
highly developed civilizations
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apart from Europe.
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China hasn't been good because we have
lots of records.
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迷人的男孩 你的脸
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比眉红的曙光云更美丽
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你能让烟的女孩羡慕
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In the Han Dynasty, you have the
infatuation of emperors for various
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pretty boys, you know, sort of all sort
of done in a warning tone.
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These are ten Chinese emperors of the
Han Dynasty and the names of their
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favorite male companions.
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Many love stories have been written
about their affairs.
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The most famous of these is based on
fashion, and it's called The Story of
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the Cut Sleeve.
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The emperor Ai of the Han dynasty, which
was essentially the first
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dynasty to rule China, the emperor was
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asleep and he rose to attend a meeting,
but his lover was asleep on
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his sleeve. So he ordered an attendant
to shut the sleeve
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so that the other man would not be
awakened.
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And he appeared in this horse then with
this cut sleeve.
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Other men there imitated this fashion as
a way of celebrating the love
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affair. So that love between men was
very occasionally referred to as
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the love of the cut sleeve.
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I think contemporary lesbians, they have
an interest in Chinese history.
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I have an image of two women having sex
using a double dildo. Mm-hmm.
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They are both smiling, but it's a very
genial, very mild, gentle kind of smile.
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So, John, this is the tunnel book based
on the poem for the... So I'm going to
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read you a poem called... It's like
this.
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You can see the Chinese writing in the
moon. Your slender body, your jade and
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coral gurgle ornaments chime.
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I want to possess the promised heart of
a beautiful woman like you.
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It is spring.
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Bath mists cover the five lakes.
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My dear, let me buy a red painted boat
and carry you away.
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While women were experiencing thousands
of... Small deaths.
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Thousands of men were literally dying in
each other's arms.
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So many of our same-sex stories about
men are war stories.
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Perhaps the most enticing story of men
at war was that of the sacred band of
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thieves.
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And if there were only some way of
contriving that a state or an army
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should be made up of lovers and their
beloved, they would overcome the world.
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To honor these sacred bands, the Thebans
raise the statue of a lion
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on the battlefield.
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There is an educational role and
therefore same-sex relationships can be
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positive and they can reinforce male
bonds, especially among soldiers and
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warriors.
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And Achilles is the greatest of the
Greek warriors.
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Patroclus is Achilles' friend,
companion. The word Homer uses is
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heteros, which means comrade or
companion or brother in arms.
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So, you know, the Greeks have to put
forward a hero to fight Hector, who's
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the Trojan prince.
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But then Patroclus puts on Achilles'
armor and goes out and is killed by
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Hector.
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And this is an absolute catastrophe for
Achilles. His grief is described at
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length by Homer. He covers himself in
ashes. He touches Patroclus' body. He is
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in absolute despair.
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And it is his terrible grief at the
death of his dear companion that drives
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him back into battle.
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That was the real example of true love.
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for the samurai, and very much like we
might think in the case of the ancient
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Greeks, certainly it was not an equal
relationship in the sense that very
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often it was between an older man and a
younger man.
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The older man would instruct the younger
man in not only sexual matters, but also
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in the responsibilities of samurai.
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What is it about the penis?
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Even the Greeks had a demigod named
Priapus.
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Billy McCoy was a boy who could play you
bet.
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Oh, how they played when he played on
his old cornet.
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He's got a smile and a cute little style
that's all his own.
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He'd mute his old cornet and then he'd
make it moan.
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Do what I do, what I do, what I do.
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Codpiece comes from the Middle English
cod or scrotum and is described
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as a pocket or a flap that is worn over
the male genitals as both protection
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and modesty.
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And it's still worn today in performance
costume and in the leather subculture.
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And it was taken to its extreme by
soldiers.
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It became larger and larger and more and
more outrageous.
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Dressing like a peacock doesn't always
signal your sexual desires.
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In most societies, for the longest time,
how you played your gender role was more
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determinative. Hiding was an option.
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But effeminate men and masculine women
found that harder to do.
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And so new roles were created,
especially in indigenous cultures, which
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offered some safety. I do think that
there was a significant number of Native
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American cultures, pre-Columbian times.
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in North and South America that did
exemplify the expression of same-sex
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desires, which today we would refer to
as two-spirit.
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For example, with the Mojave Indians,
which is one of the most important well
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-documented cases.
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A singing circle is prepared involving
the whole community.
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Everyone gathers around.
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and begins to sing the ritual songs.
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And the boy, if he is destined to follow
the two-spirit road, starts to dance
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in the fashion of a woman.
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The boy is then declared to be a
two-spirit person.
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They were not considered outcasts by any
means, and which were generally...
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accepted into the cultural pattern of
their tribal group
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the hijra culture is one of the oldest
ethnic
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groups of the transgenders in the world
it's more of a
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culture and way of living and it is
known to be the third gender they had a
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position in the society and and they
were trusted they were and they were the
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loyal they were the keeper of the
herons.
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It's not only about having sex, but it's
the culture, it's the community,
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it's what a one human feels from his own
soul.
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There was this figure of the mannish
woman, women who lived their lives
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passing as men. There was a kind of a
fascination with them because they were
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kind of adventurers in some sort.
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To have the freedom of movement, to roam
the world, practice medicine, fight in a
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revolution, the only way you could do it
was as a maid.
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So in the case of Miranda Stewart, she
becomes Dr.
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James Berry.
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She's traveling around the empire, has
her eye on the ladies, and is getting
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involved in brawls over this.
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And then you, of course, have Catalina
de Arauza, the Basque nun who ran away
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from the combat.
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Catalina goes into male dress, goes to
South America, becomes a muleteer,
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a soldier, a soldier of fortune, really,
taking female lovers.
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She was a real firebrand.
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And at one point she was sentenced to
death and they were going to execute
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her. And then she goes, but I am a
virgin.
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And a nun.
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And she got away with it.
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And so the Pope gives her permission to
wear male dress.
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And so she becomes somewhat of a
phenomenon.
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So much of our history seems to
spotlight the lives and actions of kings
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and queens.
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However, many of these stories are being
reinterpreted by gay historians.
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Without the heterosexual mantle, it was
always presumed to be present.
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I think that's great.
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These are stories I missed hearing about
in my history class.
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Aujourd'hui, nous allons parler d'amour.
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De roi, de reine et de prince.
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Il y a très longtemps vivait un roi.
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Le roi d'Egypte, Sennousret Ier, qui
aimait beaucoup les bisous.
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Il aimait particulièrement faire des
bisous au dieu Ptah, patron de la
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construction et des charpentiers.
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Kingston Walter I, from around 1900 BC,
is shown embracing the god Par.
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The king is kissing the god.
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To us, it's easy to read a sort of
erotic aspect into these scenes.
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But I think all it is is a celebration
of male intimacy.
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Ah, une reine.
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Christina de Suède.
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Elle adorerait s'habiller.
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With women, occasionally you'll get a
Christina of Sweden.
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She was cross-dressing.
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There's reference to her wallowing in
bed with other women. You know, very
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disapproving records from male
observers.
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about her sexual life.
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And so, you know, she was a real case of
a recorded historical lesbian.
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My theory is that she had fallen in love
with various women and
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simply wanted to escape the spotlight,
so to speak.
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And outside of Sweden, she could live,
actually, life.
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The two of them decided to try to escape
the country when his
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father's treatment became too brutal.
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Frederick's father wanted them tried and
executed.
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But there was so much outrage in Europe
that he did
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not execute his son.
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La mort est douce pour un prince si
aimable.
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Frederick looked out the window and
witnessed the execution of his lover.
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The idea of gay marriage is not a 21st
century concept.
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History is full of extraordinary
marriages before Thelma.
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00:41:59,810 --> 00:42:04,270
Nero is said in the sources to have been
married to one of his slaves,
439
00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:10,050
a chap called Dory Forrest, and Nero in
that ceremony is said took the role of
440
00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:11,050
the bride.
441
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,740
According to the Jewish Bible, the book
of Leviticus, sexual relations between
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00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:18,220
females are not prohibited.
443
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,100
Well, this was somewhat disturbing to
the rabbis.
444
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:27,960
And they found a prohibition for women
marrying other women in the
445
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,920
biblical verse, you shall not do as they
do in the land of Canaan, you shall not
446
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,460
do as they do in the land of Egypt.
447
00:42:34,780 --> 00:42:38,840
That may seem a little far-fetched. And
so the rabbis said, and what did they
448
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,840
do?
449
00:42:40,330 --> 00:42:43,410
The men married other men, and the women
married other women. That's what they
450
00:42:43,410 --> 00:42:44,410
did.
451
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:48,030
What's interesting is that now we
understand that they were also sirees,
452
00:42:48,090 --> 00:42:49,090
same-sex sirees.
453
00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:52,950
These were called brotherhood sirees and
sisterhood sirees.
454
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:59,330
The woman who was interested would send
a tray with the broker, with sweets to
455
00:42:59,330 --> 00:43:00,350
the beloved, I guess.
456
00:43:00,630 --> 00:43:05,590
Usually there was a dildo in the middle.
And the other woman would, if she
457
00:43:05,590 --> 00:43:10,200
accepted the offer, She would take the
sweets and then she would throw a white
458
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,860
scarf, the sign of marriage, on the tray
and returned it back.
459
00:43:17,660 --> 00:43:21,720
There was an institution in China of
female marriage resistors.
460
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,500
And the marriage resistors, some of them
actually became deified.
461
00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:35,990
A Chinese sociologist, Pan Guangben, he
speculated that the reason for these
462
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:37,950
marriage customs is same-sex attraction.
463
00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:41,510
They vowed never to marry, to live and
die together.
464
00:43:43,090 --> 00:43:48,930
They would go through this ritual of
putting up their hair in a bun, okay,
465
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:51,950
and this ritual was called zi shu,
self-calming.
466
00:43:54,210 --> 00:43:58,670
Ironically, monasteries and nunneries
seem to be the place.
467
00:43:59,130 --> 00:44:01,110
for sanctuary, and more.
468
00:44:02,210 --> 00:44:05,610
There were groups of lay sisterhoods
called the Bagines.
469
00:44:05,950 --> 00:44:11,010
These women freely acknowledged to the
inquisitors that they did not regard any
470
00:44:11,010 --> 00:44:14,790
kind of sexual relationships as sinful,
including women with women.
471
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:19,530
Well, they burned 50 of them at the
stake, but here's the juicy part.
472
00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:24,110
Not infrequently, some of them
prostrated themselves by the exit to the
473
00:44:24,110 --> 00:44:26,130
bathhouse. Naked, right?
474
00:44:27,310 --> 00:44:32,890
one falling over another, where they lay
inflaming themselves until they were
475
00:44:32,890 --> 00:44:33,890
exhausted.
476
00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:42,810
And so within the monasteries, of
course, it was acceptable to fall in
477
00:44:42,810 --> 00:44:43,810
love with a boy.
478
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:45,590
This one is really interesting.
479
00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:47,610
This is about a brotherhood vow.
480
00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:54,750
And this caption says, now they perform
brotherhood vows, better say they get
481
00:44:54,750 --> 00:44:55,750
married.
482
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,980
It happens all the time in heaven.
483
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:04,000
Someday it will begin to happen again on
earth.
484
00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:11,840
The men and women who are married and
the men and men who are lovers
485
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,760
and the women and women who give each
other light
486
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:23,460
often will get down on their knees and
while so tenderly holding their
487
00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:24,460
lover's hand
488
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:33,780
tears in your eyes, listen to Julie
speak, saying, my dear, how can I be
489
00:45:33,780 --> 00:45:34,780
more loving to you?
490
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:36,800
How can I be more kind?
491
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,680
How did the world end up going from a
pagan...
492
00:45:55,470 --> 00:46:02,290
sexually fluid one, to Leviticus's,
let's put them to death by
493
00:46:02,290 --> 00:46:08,050
torture, beheading, burning up a stake,
and hanging.
494
00:46:11,350 --> 00:46:17,950
James Pratt and John Smith were tried
and convicted and sentenced to be hanged
495
00:46:17,950 --> 00:46:19,070
here at Old Bailey.
496
00:46:21,010 --> 00:46:24,410
Newgate, November 25th.
497
00:46:24,730 --> 00:46:25,730
1835.
498
00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:33,510
Dear William, the awful period is nearly
arrived when the offended laws of
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00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:39,070
my country demand the forfeit of my life
for the crime I have committed.
500
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:45,050
The grave will soon close over me and my
name entirely forgotten.
501
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:49,890
Your lost friend, John Smith.
502
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:58,200
A very long time ago, a small sect of
Semites formulated what would become the
503
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:04,380
Old Testament, on which so many
religions would justify their horrible
504
00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:06,940
acts toward so-called sodomites.
505
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:17,080
Thou shalt not lay with mankind as with
womankind. It is abomination.
506
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,140
Book of Leviticus, chapter 18, verse 22.
507
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,980
Unfortunately, the Leviticus statute is
a simple line.
508
00:47:27,260 --> 00:47:33,940
There's no rationale, no preamble. It
stands by itself. In big biblical
509
00:47:33,940 --> 00:47:40,020
times, when the Jews talked about
somebody being in the manner of Sodom,
510
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:45,300
meant what we would call somebody who
was unwilling to share, you know,
511
00:47:45,380 --> 00:47:47,140
nothing to do with sexuality.
512
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:55,020
We do not get a real sense of
homosexuality until
513
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:58,880
about the time of Jesus and St. Paul.
514
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:09,180
So the Apostle Paul writes in his letter
to the Romans, to the Christian
515
00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:10,340
community in Rome.
516
00:48:10,910 --> 00:48:15,710
Therefore God gave them up in the lust
of their hearts to impurity, to the
517
00:48:15,710 --> 00:48:17,570
degrading of their bodies among
themselves.
518
00:48:17,810 --> 00:48:22,230
Their women exchanged natural
intercourse for unnatural, and in the
519
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:27,230
same way also the men, giving up natural
intercourse with women, were consumed
520
00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:28,730
with passion for one another.
521
00:48:29,250 --> 00:48:33,330
Book of Romans, chapter 1, verses 24
through 26.
522
00:48:33,630 --> 00:48:38,590
Well, that passage in Paul was a test of
lesbianism.
523
00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:44,040
First mention of this and male
homosexuality is unnatural.
524
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:49,940
It is a whole new train of thought.
525
00:48:53,740 --> 00:48:59,920
Because the idea of unnatural does not
appear in the Old Testament.
526
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:11,720
So that was really, unfortunately, a
disaster for men and women who loved
527
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:12,720
their own.
528
00:49:18,220 --> 00:49:22,320
And those Christian missionaries, they
took their show on the road.
529
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:45,760
In ancient Hawaii and many other places,
the missionaries were particularly
530
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,680
outraged by the same-sex practices.
531
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:56,780
Colonial authorities and missionaries in
particular began to try to stamp out
532
00:49:56,780 --> 00:50:00,180
these ritual practices. They regarded
them as heathen.
533
00:50:00,670 --> 00:50:05,310
as pagan as anti-christian and even
abhorrently as monsters
534
00:50:05,310 --> 00:50:11,430
before the coming of the british
535
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:13,210
in in africa
536
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:45,210
And so they made the people feel that
there is something wrong.
537
00:50:46,550 --> 00:50:50,270
And when they left, they forgot to erase
that.
538
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:23,180
The Jesuits come to Japan and they are
shocked, simply shocked.
539
00:51:25,770 --> 00:51:32,010
They would be preaching to the daimyo,
to the feudal lords of Kyushu, and
540
00:51:32,010 --> 00:51:35,850
saying that sodomy is an abomination,
it's a terrible sin.
541
00:51:36,070 --> 00:51:42,290
And they didn't realize that the very
men that they were preaching to
542
00:51:42,290 --> 00:51:46,710
were great practitioners of male-male
love.
543
00:51:52,780 --> 00:51:56,820
With the spread of Catholicism
throughout Europe, the church became
544
00:51:56,820 --> 00:52:02,260
preoccupied with stamping out all
heretics. In the 13th century, the Pope
545
00:52:02,260 --> 00:52:03,640
declared a crusade.
546
00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:14,860
There were bodies organized by kinds of
fraternities who
547
00:52:14,860 --> 00:52:19,800
devoted themselves to this cause of...
548
00:52:26,980 --> 00:52:33,600
Around this period, sodomites became a
favorite scapegoat among many
549
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,140
religious fundamentalists.
550
00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:43,720
Bernardino Siena was a very popular and
charismatic Franciscan
551
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:47,560
preacher. It started with the great
plague, the Black Death.
552
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:54,500
Bernardino certainly blamed the
population decline of Florence and
553
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:57,120
Tuscany and all of Italy on sodomy.
554
00:52:57,580 --> 00:53:00,520
And it was a kind of easy scapegoat.
555
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:07,560
This blaming the gays for everything bad
that happens seems to be a strategy no
556
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,500
matter what century you are in.
557
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,200
Yes, absolutely.
558
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,400
They're saying exactly the same kinds of
things that you heard in the Middle
559
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,400
Ages.
560
00:54:06,059 --> 00:54:12,340
The 1730 trial started with custodian of
the tower of the cathedral of Jutberg.
561
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:18,520
He started to tell indeed about all the
sodomites actually that came into the
562
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,080
tower and in the area.
563
00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:26,300
Just from his confessions alone, I think
they got more than 100 names. All the
564
00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:30,020
other people, when they were found
guilty of actual autonomy, actually
565
00:54:30,020 --> 00:54:34,060
found guilty of anal intercourse, they
would be executed.
566
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,500
That was the highest number of deaths.
567
00:54:38,250 --> 00:54:41,490
at one time that I'm aware of before his
life.
568
00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:46,070
There's all kinds of wood blocks that
were being reproduced and reproduced of
569
00:54:46,070 --> 00:54:50,190
the executions of the men, and they had
songs that were also printed with the
570
00:54:50,190 --> 00:54:56,250
imagery. And one show had a series of
six little paintings that go from had
571
00:54:56,250 --> 00:55:01,150
the gay men meeting, had the gay men
leaving their women, being arrested by
572
00:55:01,150 --> 00:55:03,850
the police, put in prison, and then
being executed.
573
00:55:05,420 --> 00:55:08,660
So it's a very nice picture of why
sodomites should be murdered.
574
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:19,580
The executions generally in Holland for
sodomites were
575
00:55:19,580 --> 00:55:26,560
strangling at a stake, which was
typically the kind of death penalty
576
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:27,560
for women.
577
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,240
It was a pole.
578
00:55:31,660 --> 00:55:37,820
And they put you against the pole and
then from behind they strangled you with
579
00:55:37,820 --> 00:55:38,820
a cord.
580
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,120
The authorities gave a message to the
public.
581
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,440
You know, these sodomites are like
women. We kill them like women.
582
00:55:50,380 --> 00:55:56,760
Near the end of the 16th century, there
were more sodomites burned than
583
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,760
heretics.
584
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,040
The reason being, they were running out
of heretics.
585
00:56:01,580 --> 00:56:07,020
But there would always be a supply of
men who were involved with other men.
586
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,180
Obviously, same-sex didn't end with a
garage.
587
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,080
We practitioners of same-sex had to
adapt, had to be more creative.
588
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:25,360
In the Renaissance, ancient Greek myths
became a way to portray same-sex
589
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,360
sensibilities.
590
00:56:31,180 --> 00:56:35,300
In the Renaissance, there was a great
rediscovery of Greek antiquity, the art,
591
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,080
the literature, the poetry, and a
tremendous enthusiasm for everything
592
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:45,580
Greek. But I think for a lot of people
who were homosexual or bisexual in the
593
00:56:45,580 --> 00:56:49,640
Renaissance, they wanted to make images
of this.
594
00:56:50,190 --> 00:56:52,450
world from ancient times.
595
00:56:52,690 --> 00:56:55,590
And that included the myths about
same-sex love.
596
00:56:55,810 --> 00:57:01,030
So, for instance, we have the story of
Zeus, who fell in love with a young man
597
00:57:01,030 --> 00:57:07,910
called Ganymede, or Apollo and the boy
Hyacinth, or indeed Alexander
598
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:12,870
and his companion Hephaestion, which is
not mythology, but more like history.
599
00:57:13,650 --> 00:57:18,410
A good example would be the artist
Sodoma.
600
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:26,000
He did a series of frescoes in a villa
in Rome for the Pope's banker, a very
601
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:32,200
high-level member of society. And in the
bedroom, there is a fresco of the
602
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,800
marriage of Alexander the Great. And
there he is handing over the marriage
603
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,400
crown to this princess. But right next
to him on the other side is his male
604
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:48,140
lover, Hephaestion, who is shown very
handsome and idealized like a Greek god.
605
00:57:49,150 --> 00:57:53,390
The 15th century Tuscan poet Poliziano
wrote a poem, for instance, enjoining
606
00:57:53,390 --> 00:57:57,070
men to leave their wives and find
happiness with young men as the Greeks
607
00:57:57,070 --> 00:57:58,070
did.
608
00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:07,030
Hi, Jove, confirms the truth of what I
said, who caught and bound in love's
609
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:11,970
delightful snare, enjoys in heaven his
own bright Ganymede.
610
00:58:12,770 --> 00:58:16,450
Phoebus on earth had Hyacinth the fair.
611
00:58:17,470 --> 00:58:24,120
Hercules! conqueror of the world, was
led captive to Hylus by this love so
612
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,120
rare.
613
00:58:25,820 --> 00:58:26,920
Advice for husbands.
614
00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:31,900
Seek divorce and fly far, far away from
female company.
615
00:58:32,780 --> 00:58:35,120
Maria, tell me about Ganymede.
616
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,460
Zeus, the king of the Greek Olympian
gods, was very prone to falling in love,
617
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,660
which drove his wife here crazy, but he
usually fell in love with...
618
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,820
nymphs and mortal maidens. And there's
one story we have where Zeus turns
619
00:58:48,820 --> 00:58:53,980
himself into an animal for a boy. And
that boy was Ganymede. And he was the
620
00:58:53,980 --> 00:58:55,560
most beautiful boy of his generation.
621
00:58:57,020 --> 00:59:01,900
So Zeus turned himself into a huge
golden eagle and came down and swept
622
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:06,020
Ganymede up in his claws and carried him
up to Mount Olympus and made him his
623
00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:08,400
personal cupbearer to pour his wine for
him.
624
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,140
It's very clear that that kind of
intimacy is also
625
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:19,160
erotic and that this is a bedfellow and
a playmate as well as a servant.
626
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:35,180
A number of the Isaacs themselves were
undoubtedly homosexual.
627
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:46,380
I wrote, you know, about Michelangelo
and the discovery of the letters of
628
00:59:46,380 --> 00:59:51,320
Michelangelo, that they had been
deliberately changed from the male
629
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,680
pronoun to the female pronoun.
630
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,760
So the nephew thought he was doing his
uncle a favor by rewriting some of these
631
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:04,100
poems to make them heterosexual, and
that was the only form in which the
632
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:09,120
poems were known for the next 240 years.
633
01:00:15,980 --> 01:00:21,360
And most of what we read in the 15th,
16th, 17th century is men like
634
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,540
Michelangelo, for example, who was in
his 50s when he met Tommaso de
635
01:00:25,540 --> 01:00:27,780
Cavalieri, who was in his 20s.
636
01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:33,160
It's no wonder that Michelangelo made a
drawing of Ganymede to give to Cavalieri
637
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:38,280
because it fit their circumstances. The
older, mature, established figure
638
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,640
passionately embracing the younger,
beautiful figure.
639
01:00:46,370 --> 01:00:52,950
Michelangelo's poetry is the earliest
surviving significant group of poems
640
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:57,550
that are written by one man to other men
in the West.
641
01:00:59,130 --> 01:01:03,590
229, new numbering, and it's to Victoria
Colonna.
642
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:06,530
Here's Michelangelo's handwriting.
643
01:01:07,170 --> 01:01:11,730
This is one of my favorite poems by
Michelangelo because it's one of the
644
01:01:11,730 --> 01:01:14,250
ones written to Tommaso de Caligari.
645
01:01:14,670 --> 01:01:19,250
He wanted to write a sonnet to his
beloved Tommaso Cavalieri.
646
01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:26,070
Where Michelangelo really lets out in
the least guarded
647
01:01:26,070 --> 01:01:31,190
way. So this is the poem that you've
been obsessed with for so long.
648
01:01:31,590 --> 01:01:35,670
Here's Michelangelo. The kind of
fantasies that he's having and the
649
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:39,570
desires that he has toward Cavalieri.
650
01:01:43,930 --> 01:01:46,210
You can't be there.
651
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:50,770
So if in the eyes you see one's heart.
652
01:01:51,790 --> 01:01:52,910
Again, the eyes.
653
01:01:53,130 --> 01:01:54,130
The eyes.
654
01:01:57,930 --> 01:02:03,770
If the heart can be seen in the face
through the eyes, I have no other more
655
01:02:03,770 --> 01:02:05,770
apparent sign of my flame.
656
01:02:08,590 --> 01:02:13,170
So let these be enough, my dear Lord, to
petition for your mercy.
657
01:02:15,030 --> 01:02:19,530
Perhaps your spirit, which sees with
greater credence than I dare to believe
658
01:02:19,530 --> 01:02:24,110
the virtuous fire that burns me, will be
quick to pity me.
659
01:02:25,210 --> 01:02:30,990
Oh, happy that day when this be sure to
happen, so that I might have my sweet
660
01:02:30,990 --> 01:02:36,270
and longed-for Lord in my unworthy yet
ready arms forever.
661
01:02:43,370 --> 01:02:48,870
the Greek loophole propagated same-sex
sensibilities well into the 20th
662
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:49,870
century.
663
01:02:51,710 --> 01:02:57,590
With photographers like Van Gluden and
Puchow, who in Italy produced thousands
664
01:02:57,590 --> 01:02:59,190
of classical photographs.
665
01:02:59,750 --> 01:03:05,910
The Battle of the Greeks even went to
the U.S. Post Office when in the 1950s
666
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:11,750
it lifted its ban on Bob Meiser's
photographs, calling them art.
667
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,860
So there was a lot more knowledge about
sodomy. The Florentines just chattered
668
01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:32,600
constantly about sodomy, and this is one
of the reasons why they had such a bad
669
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,400
reputation. And it was so prevalent that
the Germans invented a verb for
670
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,900
committing homosexuality, which was
Florenze, to Florence.
671
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:43,360
In
672
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:50,260
Renaissance
673
01:03:50,260 --> 01:03:52,600
Florence, you might have found me here.
674
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,600
under the statue of Donatello St.
675
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:56,800
George.
676
01:03:57,140 --> 01:04:00,320
It was a notorious sodomite pickup spot.
677
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,340
In fact, that's what they called us back
then, sodomites.
678
01:04:03,820 --> 01:04:07,280
And they even wrote poetry about this
little place.
679
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:16,700
So he says, essentially, in this
wonderful Italian,
680
01:04:16,980 --> 01:04:21,660
that this boy he knows, which is the
statue, will never change.
681
01:04:22,350 --> 01:04:26,630
He will never change his clothes. He'll
never change his face. He'll never grow
682
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:31,770
a beard. And nothing will ever change.
In fact, as we see, he's the same as he
683
01:04:31,770 --> 01:04:33,190
was 500 years ago.
684
01:04:36,130 --> 01:04:41,710
And down the street, they kept record of
all the sodomites they arrested here in
685
01:04:41,710 --> 01:04:43,510
Florence, thousands of them.
686
01:04:44,090 --> 01:04:47,710
Court records are a good way to
reconstruct same-sex history.
687
01:04:49,030 --> 01:04:54,470
One talent for me was just... To sift
through all of these thousands of pages
688
01:04:54,470 --> 01:05:01,010
of documents, no one could have dreamed
that there were so many people
689
01:05:01,010 --> 01:05:02,670
prosecuted for sodomy.
690
01:05:03,070 --> 01:05:09,430
Something like 17,000 men and boys
appeared in the court records
691
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:11,590
over those 70 years.
692
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:17,470
There was an immense amount of sexual
activity that these records were
693
01:05:17,470 --> 01:05:18,470
documenting.
694
01:05:21,610 --> 01:05:27,850
Among the names appeared Leonardo and
also
695
01:05:27,850 --> 01:05:29,050
Botticelli.
696
01:05:30,350 --> 01:05:32,970
Cellini is an interesting case.
697
01:05:33,810 --> 01:05:37,430
He was arrested and placed under house
arrest.
698
01:05:40,330 --> 01:05:46,490
So, Bazzi is known as Il Sodoma and at
one point he entered a horse race
699
01:05:46,490 --> 01:05:48,670
and he won.
700
01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:54,470
Heralds come over and they say, well,
you know, congratulations, Mr. Bazzi,
701
01:05:54,530 --> 01:05:57,510
you won the race. How do you want us to
call out your name?
702
01:05:57,770 --> 01:05:59,930
And he says, oh, just say Sodoma.
703
01:06:00,750 --> 01:06:04,850
So the heralds start going to the street
saying, this is the horse of the
704
01:06:04,850 --> 01:06:06,330
Sodomite who won the race.
705
01:06:08,990 --> 01:06:13,930
As everyone knows what the Ponte Vecchio
is, I believe there were around 50.
706
01:06:14,750 --> 01:06:18,930
different individuals who were working
on the bridge and were implicated in
707
01:06:18,930 --> 01:06:23,210
sodomy. There are only a couple of dozen
shops there, so they all must have known
708
01:06:23,210 --> 01:06:28,870
who was being arrested, who had recently
paid their fine, who was going out with
709
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:32,750
whom. There was a lot of talk and
knowledge.
710
01:06:33,130 --> 01:06:37,790
The core of homosexual networks, and you
could call it an embryonic community,
711
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:39,230
was there.
712
01:06:43,210 --> 01:06:49,850
You could see networks of same-sex
people, mainly men, meeting, conversing,
713
01:06:49,970 --> 01:06:53,790
picking each other up, having sex.
714
01:06:54,170 --> 01:07:01,110
And that urban culture of people with
sexual minority tastes, shall we
715
01:07:01,110 --> 01:07:02,430
say, kept growing.
716
01:07:03,290 --> 01:07:08,590
Male homosexuality was carved into the
fabric of London.
717
01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:11,150
It was on the pavement, it was in the
brickwork.
718
01:07:13,130 --> 01:07:17,010
In the 18th century, there was a
phenomenon known as the mollyhouses,
719
01:07:17,150 --> 01:07:19,750
which were sort of gay bars.
720
01:07:20,210 --> 01:07:26,450
And we do have historical records of 30
mollyhouses in a relatively short space
721
01:07:26,450 --> 01:07:31,950
of time, where men who wanted to have
sex with other men would congregate, and
722
01:07:31,950 --> 01:07:37,870
they'd have rituals, they'd talk in the
female dialect, which was a kind of
723
01:07:37,870 --> 01:07:39,870
camp. Polari language.
724
01:07:40,310 --> 01:07:41,470
They'd call each other she.
725
01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:45,910
They'd have names like Black Eyed Susan
or Betsy.
726
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:52,910
You find homosexuality in parks, in
public laboratories, in men's clubs,
727
01:07:53,210 --> 01:07:56,770
in the theatre, on the street.
728
01:07:58,990 --> 01:08:01,410
Homosexuality was everywhere in London.
729
01:08:01,670 --> 01:08:06,470
So often we're accustomed to thinking
that the history of homosexuality is the
730
01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:07,470
history of...
731
01:08:07,550 --> 01:08:10,650
men hiding in corners and feeling
guilty.
732
01:08:11,130 --> 01:08:16,510
And yet these men in early 18th century
London were having as much fun amongst
733
01:08:16,510 --> 01:08:20,729
themselves as any drunkard in a female
of the prostitution.
734
01:08:21,010 --> 01:08:24,590
But coming out would prove to be much
more difficult.
735
01:08:24,890 --> 01:08:31,029
In our film After Stonewall, Reverend
Troy Perry actually called coming out
736
01:08:31,029 --> 01:08:36,450
the most important action that gays and
lesbians had done in the 20th century.
737
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,420
That revolutionary act for me is the
most important thing.
738
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:45,620
But that revolutionary act actually
began in the 19th century.
739
01:08:52,660 --> 01:08:59,279
August 29th, 1867, a very important date
here in Munich
740
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:00,740
at the Odeon Plot.
741
01:09:02,019 --> 01:09:06,620
Before an audience of fellow German
jurists, Karl Heinrich Ulrichs made
742
01:09:06,620 --> 01:09:11,620
history when he became the first person
to publicly declare his homosexuality.
743
01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:15,779
For the first time in modern history, he
came out as a homosexual.
744
01:09:17,220 --> 01:09:23,720
Until my dying day, I will look back
with pride when on August 29, 1867, I
745
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:28,180
found the courage to come face to face
in battle with an age-old, wrathful
746
01:09:28,180 --> 01:09:29,180
Hydra.
747
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:34,580
What gave me strength at the last moment
finally to mount the speaker's box was
748
01:09:34,580 --> 01:09:37,720
the distant gaze of comrades of my
nature fixed on me.
749
01:09:44,540 --> 01:09:48,060
Ulrichs would later flee in exile to
Italy.
750
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:55,400
In 2001, his grave was found in L'Aquila
by gay Italian activists, who each
751
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,140
year celebrate his birthday.
752
01:10:03,450 --> 01:10:09,210
Ulrichs was perhaps one of the most
important homosexuals to be rediscovered
753
01:10:09,210 --> 01:10:12,230
by 20th century gay liberationists.
754
01:10:16,210 --> 01:10:22,670
Before his exile, Ulrichs was part of a
group of intellectuals looking for new
755
01:10:22,670 --> 01:10:23,990
names to call herself.
756
01:10:25,330 --> 01:10:31,510
Ulrichs looked to Plato's Symposium to
find a word for homosexuality.
757
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:38,560
So he turned the Venus Urania into
earning, and that was his word for gay
758
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:44,060
people. And it was these things that
Edward Carpenter and John Isington
759
01:10:44,060 --> 01:10:48,780
Simmons later picked up and disseminated
into the English world.
760
01:10:49,180 --> 01:10:54,720
The first time the word homosexual was
used was by Austrian novelist Karl Maria
761
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,120
Bankert in 1867.
762
01:10:57,950 --> 01:11:02,330
So it's not surprising that it's in
Europe, in Germany and in England in
763
01:11:02,330 --> 01:11:08,530
particular, that you first start having
intellectuals like Ulrich or Edward
764
01:11:08,530 --> 01:11:14,910
Carpenter or Magnus Hirschfeld
describing same-sex desire, describing a
765
01:11:14,910 --> 01:11:18,250
people, an intermediate type, for
example, Carpenter used.
766
01:11:18,490 --> 01:11:24,230
Edward Carpenter was called the gay
godfather of the British left and he was
767
01:11:24,230 --> 01:11:25,270
determined to talk.
768
01:11:25,710 --> 01:11:32,490
about homosexuality in the 1890s when it
was extremely difficult to do so because
769
01:11:32,490 --> 01:11:33,890
it was illegal.
770
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:41,350
And so Carpenter becomes a very
well-known advocate for same-sex love.
771
01:11:41,630 --> 01:11:46,810
David Carpenter, who certainly as a
pioneer socialist, as well as pioneer
772
01:11:46,810 --> 01:11:52,430
feminist and sexual liberationist, spent
a large part of his life living with,
773
01:11:52,510 --> 01:11:55,830
working with... politicising
working-class men.
774
01:11:56,290 --> 01:12:02,770
Dear Ted, I shall be glad to see thy
dear face again, as I have such longings
775
01:12:02,770 --> 01:12:04,830
to kiss those sweet lips of thine.
776
01:12:05,490 --> 01:12:08,010
Fondest love from your dear boy.
777
01:12:08,530 --> 01:12:15,270
Carpenter met Meryl actually on a train
coming from Sheffield to the
778
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:16,590
little village of Totley.
779
01:12:17,890 --> 01:12:20,110
Their eyes met on the train.
780
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,760
And from that time, 1891, they are
seeing each other.
781
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,140
New, proud, curved-lipped youth with
brown, sensitive face.
782
01:12:30,980 --> 01:12:35,580
Why suddenly did you turn full upon me,
those twin black eyes of yours, with
783
01:12:35,580 --> 01:12:37,460
gaze so absorbing, so intense?
784
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,540
I, a strong man, trembled and was faint.
785
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,580
I think that it was this.
786
01:12:44,970 --> 01:12:49,170
sensuous confidence that comes from the
contact with Meryl that enabled
787
01:12:49,170 --> 01:12:55,750
Carpenter to really write about
sexuality for the first time explicitly.
788
01:12:56,310 --> 01:13:01,410
The records of chivalric love, the feats
of an abbot knight for the lady's sake,
789
01:13:01,610 --> 01:13:07,270
are easily paralleled, if not surpassed,
by the stories of Greek comrades in
790
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:08,270
arms.
791
01:13:10,370 --> 01:13:12,750
I falter. Lost!
792
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,100
in the love trance.
793
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,760
You know, what we have is this.
794
01:13:21,700 --> 01:13:27,060
Lesbians at this time also found
historical roots in the classical world.
795
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:33,420
Natalie Clifford Barney, an American
expatriate, reinterpreted Sappho's words
796
01:13:33,420 --> 01:13:36,800
for plays performed at her salon in
Paris.
797
01:13:57,230 --> 01:14:04,150
And in the late 19th century, with the
invention of the photograph, hundreds of
798
01:14:04,150 --> 01:14:09,330
homoerotic and male-male pornographic
pictures flooded the homosexual
799
01:14:09,330 --> 01:14:12,410
undergrounds of Paris, Berlin, London.
800
01:14:12,940 --> 01:14:13,940
and Italy.
801
01:14:16,140 --> 01:14:22,400
One of the important contributions of
homosexual people themselves at the end
802
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,840
of the 19th century was their
contribution to the development of what
803
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,180
we now call sexology, the science of
sex.
804
01:14:30,540 --> 01:14:35,420
And what you see through this is gay
people themselves entering into a
805
01:14:35,420 --> 01:14:37,600
dialogue with scientists.
806
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,360
Scientific Humanitarian Committee, which
is really the first gay rights
807
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,260
organization as we would think of them.
808
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:55,860
This liberating spirit set forth a wave
from Germany to England and
809
01:14:55,860 --> 01:15:01,720
further across the Atlantic to... Here
in the United States of America.
810
01:15:05,020 --> 01:15:06,020
America.
811
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:18,920
Whitman burst out of the closet in 1855,
and he just sucked in a lot of fresh
812
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:19,920
air.
813
01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:30,400
Colonial with the earth, with freedom,
law, and
814
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,580
love.
815
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,840
And then in the 1860 edition, in one of
the Calamus poems, he says, Oh,
816
01:15:36,860 --> 01:15:42,280
adhesiveness, oh, pulse of my life.
Well, adhesiveness was the word that
817
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:48,360
phrenologists used for a strong
affection between members of the same
818
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:49,360
sex.
819
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:51,360
Adhesiveness.
820
01:15:54,600 --> 01:16:00,620
I really look upon Leaves of Grass as
the opening shot
821
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:08,340
the call for gay liberation, freedom
from homophobia, freedom to do as one
822
01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:13,160
wishes. This poem to me is one of my
favorites because in a way it's a call
823
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,039
to arms.
824
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:19,880
One flitting glimpse caught through an
interstice of a crowd of workmen and
825
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:26,580
drivers in a bar room around the stove
late of a winter night and I unremarked
826
01:16:26,580 --> 01:16:30,660
seated in a corner of a youth who loves
me.
827
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:36,480
and whom I love, silently approaching
and seating himself near, that he may
828
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:37,980
hold me by the hand.
829
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:44,680
It's a gift. The sequence, in effect, is
a gift to his gay comrades.
830
01:16:45,540 --> 01:16:52,080
We two boys together clinging, one the
other never leaving, air breathing,
831
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:58,620
water drinking, on the turf or the sea
beach dancing, armed and fearless,
832
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,280
eating, drinking, sleeping, loving.
833
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,600
I love this poem, particularly that
phrase, armed and fearless.
834
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:12,680
It's very clear from the context of all
the columnist poems that they have their
835
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:13,900
arms around each other.
836
01:17:14,140 --> 01:17:19,960
So it's a great evocation of gay
fraternity, homosexual fraternity.
837
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:27,020
Whitman had this vision of the manly
love, he uses those terms, the manly
838
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:28,020
love of comrades.
839
01:17:30,250 --> 01:17:34,350
And that appealed to a lot of men who
didn't see themselves in the figure of
840
01:17:34,350 --> 01:17:40,730
the fairy, who saw themselves more in
this Whitman-esque vision of
841
01:17:40,730 --> 01:17:44,910
a shared love of equals.
842
01:17:45,390 --> 01:17:51,650
In 1893, a wealthy young man called
George Ives, who was illegitimate, the
843
01:17:51,650 --> 01:17:57,590
son of a general, set up the Order of
Chaeronea.
844
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:04,920
It was a secret society and its aim was
to promote social
845
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,200
and sexual emancipation for Uranian men.
846
01:18:10,620 --> 01:18:16,280
And it's quite likely that Oscar Wilde
and Rosie Douglas were in the order.
847
01:18:17,820 --> 01:18:24,160
In the 1890s, Oscar Wilde becomes one of
the most successful playwrights of late
848
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,180
Victorian London.
849
01:18:27,850 --> 01:18:34,630
In part, he owed his international
success to his outrageous banter and
850
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:36,870
fabulous camp sensibility.
851
01:18:38,810 --> 01:18:42,590
We are all in the gutter, but some of us
are looking at the stars.
852
01:18:44,730 --> 01:18:50,190
Man is least himself when he talks in
his own person. Give him a mask and he
853
01:18:50,190 --> 01:18:51,190
will tell you the truth.
854
01:18:53,210 --> 01:18:56,230
Either this wallpaper goes or I do.
855
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:03,760
I think that sex between men was
extremely prevalent in the 19th century,
856
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:08,940
and many men, particularly from the
labouring class, from the working class,
857
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,460
were not even aware that it was a crime.
858
01:19:12,860 --> 01:19:17,500
There is only one thing in the world
worse than being talked about, and that
859
01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:18,900
is not being talked about.
860
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:25,220
This is a letter Oscar Wilde wrote to
Bosie Douglas, the knight.
861
01:19:25,740 --> 01:19:32,560
before he was going to go back to court
and almost certainly be found guilty and
862
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,580
sent to prison with hard labour for at
least two years.
863
01:19:37,540 --> 01:19:44,440
My sweet rose, my delicate flower, my
lily of lilies, it is perhaps in
864
01:19:44,440 --> 01:19:47,080
prison that I am going to test the power
of love.
865
01:19:47,940 --> 01:19:54,640
O sweetest of all boys, most loved of
all loves, my soul clings to your soul.
866
01:19:55,160 --> 01:20:00,880
My life is your life, and in all the
worlds of pain and pleasure, you are my
867
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,120
ideal of admiration and joy.
868
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:08,020
In 1895, Oscar Wilde is convicted.
869
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,660
It's an enormous scandal.
870
01:20:10,980 --> 01:20:14,500
There was nothing quite as dramatic as
Wilde's case.
871
01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:19,540
The first transatlantic sexual scandal
involving same-sex relations.
872
01:20:20,490 --> 01:20:22,130
He was an undoubted genius.
873
01:20:22,350 --> 01:20:27,250
But when he was arrested, the popularity
disappeared overnight and the underlying
874
01:20:27,250 --> 01:20:33,370
homophobia, if you like, came straight
up and remained
875
01:20:33,370 --> 01:20:39,070
potent for 50 or 60 or 70 years.
876
01:20:40,030 --> 01:20:43,970
He's really become a martyr to the kind
of excesses of state power.
877
01:20:44,730 --> 01:20:49,650
Weil said at his trial, quote, the love
that dare not speak its name.
878
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:56,020
It is that deep spiritual affection that
is as pure as it is perfect.
879
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,100
It is the noblest form of affection.
880
01:20:59,460 --> 01:21:02,960
There is nothing unnatural about it.
881
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:08,960
And Wilde was that great turning point
in gay history.
882
01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:21,420
I think the importance of Oscar Wilde...
is that he was the
883
01:21:21,420 --> 01:21:25,580
first great gay martyr of the modern
age.
884
01:21:27,820 --> 01:21:33,980
Oscar Wilde wrote to George I, yet I
have no doubt that we will win,
885
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:39,600
but the road is long and red with
monstrous
886
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,380
martyrdoms.
887
01:22:29,870 --> 01:22:34,590
was vilified, and his works were swept
from libraries. The plays of his that
888
01:22:34,590 --> 01:22:35,830
were in production were closed.
889
01:22:36,430 --> 01:22:40,550
Yes, history repeats itself. The circles
get bigger and bigger and bigger.
890
01:22:40,930 --> 01:22:45,450
Will the film you've just watched be
burned, like Different from the Others?
891
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:51,170
Will the few remaining lines of the
great poet Sappho be preserved for
892
01:22:51,170 --> 01:22:52,430
future generations?
893
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:56,950
I say someone in another time will
remember us.
894
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,820
Will Whitman's call to arms be forever
cherished?
895
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,340
I sing the body electric.
896
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:09,420
The armies of those I love invert me,
and I invert them.
897
01:23:14,580 --> 01:23:20,740
Will Qafafi's radical vision of a
brigade of pleasure be fully realized
898
01:23:20,740 --> 01:23:21,740
one day?
899
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:23,740
Don't speak about guilt.
900
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,200
Don't speak about responsibility.
901
01:23:27,850 --> 01:23:33,210
When the brigade of pleasure passes with
music and with flags, when the senses
902
01:23:33,210 --> 01:23:40,130
shiver and tremble, it's wrong and
disrespectful to stay distant.
903
01:23:40,490 --> 01:23:46,950
All the laws of morality, badly thought
out, badly applied, are nothing and
904
01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:52,870
can't stand, even for a second, when the
brigade of pleasure passes with music
905
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:53,870
and with flags.
906
01:24:01,130 --> 01:24:05,930
If history is our guide, then these ups
and downs of repression and freedom
907
01:24:05,930 --> 01:24:11,410
shows us that there will be many valleys
to cross before we see an end to this
908
01:24:11,410 --> 01:24:12,410
story.
909
01:24:16,150 --> 01:24:17,150
Later,
910
01:24:23,090 --> 01:24:28,910
in a more perfect society, someone else
made just like me is certain to appear
911
01:24:28,910 --> 01:24:30,030
and act.
912
01:24:30,590 --> 01:24:31,590
freely.
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