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[suspenseful music playing]
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{\an8}[female teen 1] So we just found
this suitcase, and we're gonna get it.
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{\an8}Okay, so they're, like, opening it up
with the sticks because we don't wanna...
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- [male teen laughing] Open it.
- [female teen 1] It stinks, y'all.
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[female teen 2] Yes, there's a bag.
There's a bag, like...
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{\an8}Oh, it is a bag!
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- [male teen] Oh!
- [female teen 2] Oh my God!
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[male teen] She's calling the police
so we can see if it's a dead body.
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{\an8}[female teen 1]
We called the police twice.
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{\an8}It's been two hours in the water.
It's like rising.
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{\an8}[reporter 1] Detectives are investigating
the remains found in several bags
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{\an8}on Friday at Duwamish Head.
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{\an8}- [sirens wailing]
- [clamoring]
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{\an8}[reporter 2] The detectives have remained
tight-lipped about the gruesome murders.
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[ominous music playing]
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[waves lapping]
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[uneasy music playing]
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[Cooper] This case began
on June 19th, 2020,
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uh, with a 911 call from a young lady
that was out of Alki.
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And she was telling 911
they had found a suitcase
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that they had opened up
and had a very bad odor,
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{\an8}and they believed they should report it.
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[intriguing music playing]
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[Cooper] When the officer arrived,
the tide was going out.
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It washed the contents
of the suitcase out.
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The officer came over to the edge.
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He fished out the contents
of the suitcase first,
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saw the duffle bag,
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and the duffle bag
was actually in the water, floating away.
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They fished those items out.
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Within ten minutes,
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the patrol sergeant
had contacted our unit.
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I responded to his location.
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That's when the patrol officer
showed me the duffel bag
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and the plastic bag
that had fallen out of that.
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And the plastic bag
contained a human foot.
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[unsettling music playing]
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[Cooper] The suitcase was partially open.
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I could see that there were body parts,
or bags in there.
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[sirens wailing]
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I was 99% sure
this was not our crime scene.
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That this was a dump site.
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Those items did not just drift up here.
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They would have never managed to go
that far in the water before sinking.
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I had contacted my partner.
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We went to track down the 911 caller.
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The 911 caller and the witness, they...
Totally cooperative.
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They gave us great statements.
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But it wasn't until the next day
that I have fellow detectives calling me
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that have kids that are showing them
a TikTok video
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{\an8}of our witnesses finding the suitcase.
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It was kids being kids.
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But it went viral.
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[people exclaiming]
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[dramatic music sting]
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{\an8}...murdered and left in a suitcase
in bags on Alki Beach,
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{\an8}when teenagers posted
on TikTok about finding the remains.
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{\an8}[Cooper] I've worked
high-profile cases before.
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{\an8}And the downside to the media coverage,
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especially national media coverage,
you're behind the 8-ball.
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[reporter 3] Detectives are investigating
several bags containing human remains.
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[Cooper] Once the body parts
are being recovered,
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the medical examiner's office
started going through the... the bags.
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She discovered not one head,
but two heads.
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[foreboding music playing]
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So now we know we have two victims.
One was a male, one is a female.
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{\an8}As an investigator, one of the most
important things we want to know is,
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{\an8}who are they?
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They were able to obtain fingerprints
from the two victims,
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and within a half hour,
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we finally learned of who our people were.
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The male was identified as Austin Wenner,
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and the young lady
was identified as Jessica Lewis.
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[somber music playing]
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I remember seeing the news about Alki.
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{\an8}And I told my boyfriend at the time,
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{\an8}"Turn that off.
I don't like to watch the news."
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"This is why I don't like
to watch the news."
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"It's nothing but bad news."
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And little did I know
that it was regarding my own son.
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Shortly after that,
there was a knock on my door.
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It was Detective Cooper.
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And they asked if they could speak to me.
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They told me that
they were there regarding Austin.
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I said, "What about Austin?"
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And they told me that he was found dead.
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Um, my son and his... sister.
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Me and the kids.
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Always together.
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[emotional music playing]
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[Charleen] Austin is my firstborn.
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And he was very boyish.
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Driving his truck, four-wheeling.
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That was Austin.
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You'd always find him tinkering
on different cars, or underneath it.
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Sometimes gettin' mad. [laughs]
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He was so social and always
very big-hearted and loving.
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It was hard not to love him.
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Maybe Jessica fell in love with him
for his blue eyes and his belly laugh
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and his sense of humor.
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{\an8}Austin and Jessica met
when he was about 20,
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and she was a little bit older,
in her late twenties.
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[gentle music playing]
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From that day on, they were inseparable.
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[Gina] Jessica Lewis is my niece.
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{\an8}We always called her Jessie.
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{\an8}She was so kind.
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{\an8}She never said a bad word about anybody.
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{\an8}She was just a ray of sunshine, honestly.
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My mom ran an adult family home.
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Jessica would always
help paint their nails,
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or helping them make lunches,
and assisting my mom.
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It just takes somebody with a big heart
to be able to have that kind of patience.
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She was a good girl.
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[Kris] Jessica's a sweetheart.
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{\an8}She was definitely in love with him,
and he was in love with her.
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Austin was her man,
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and so she made a point
of making sure that he knew that.
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[Gina] They were each other's escape
from the hard parts of life.
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[intriguing music playing]
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[Charleen] Austin was very emotional.
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Things affected him.
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And as he got older,
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I think that it became
harder for him to cope with all that.
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That's when he turned to using drugs
and got in that lifestyle.
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[reporter 4] There is more meth out there
than ever before.
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It's stronger, cheaper,
easier to find, and harder to quit.
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{\an8}[Kris] Austin liked
to smoke methamphetamine.
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It was just one of those things
you got hooked on,
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and he kinda knew where to get it,
and he could get it for me,
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and, you know, we would be at my house
and... and we'd... we'd get high, basically.
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[Charleen] Watching my son
struggle with drugs
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was probably
one of the hardest things in my life.
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[voice breaking]
And having to turn him away...
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um, when he was 16, was very hard.
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But I had other children in the house.
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I just didn't know
what came with the drugs.
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What type of people came with it.
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[Gina] Austin and Jessica
struggled with addiction.
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A few of our family members did.
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It's just something
some families deal with,
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and ours is one of them.
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[Charleen] Throughout Austin's life,
he's been in treatment a couple of times.
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It would work for a little while.
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- [thunder crashing]
- [Charleen] And then it wouldn't work.
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[dark music playing]
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I think that it was hard for them
to stay clean together.
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When Austin and Jessica met,
he moved in with her.
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They did become homeless after that
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because they continued using drugs.
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[Gina] Austin had a reputation
of stealing things.
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And so I really
didn't want that around too much.
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[uneasy music playing]
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[Kris] They lived wherever
they could lay their hat, basically.
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Sometimes they lived at my house,
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sometimes they lived, you know,
in... in other places.
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It was Austin's aunt
who helped get them a place to live.
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[melancholy music playing]
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[Charleen] My sister was living
with Michael Dudley.
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She lived there for quite some time.
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A few years.
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He sometimes would let people
live at his house.
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He had an Airbnb.
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My sister is a drug addict.
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She was living
in a trailer on his property.
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She would make
some of the meals for people,
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make sure the rooms were clean and ready
for any guests that were coming over.
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And I would sometimes
go over there and see her.
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Michael Dudley seemed very pleasant.
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He was very nice to me, respectful to me.
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He would sometimes
take care of other people's pets
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when they were gone.
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He gave this persona of being very nice.
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He would call me
if something was wrong with my sister.
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He had both
my ex-husband Dean's phone number,
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my phone number.
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My sister was getting ready
to move down to California.
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But before she left,
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she had introduced Austin
to Michael Dudley.
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So Austin and Jessica had moved in
around October of 2019.
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[Kris] It was a unique situation
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because they had
a place of their own finally.
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A place where they could go at night
and chill out and sleep
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and, you know, relax.
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And they could have their cat there.
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You know, it was a good thing
for a little while.
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[dark music playing]
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[melodic guitar music playing]
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[Shelly] When I first met Mike Dudley,
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I was moving from Switzerland to Seattle.
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I was needing a place to stay.
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I had a couple of pets.
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And so I Googled on Airbnb,
"Who would take pets?"
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And there was someone
quite close to the airport.
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{\an8}I was gonna be interviewing
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{\an8}for multiple jobs I had applied to,
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so I thought
it was a good central location.
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And the guy
who was the host of the Airbnb,
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his name was Mike Dudley.
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He was responsive and pleasant.
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He said he actually had a dog of his own.
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I said, "Great, my dogs love dogs."
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[tranquil music playing]
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[Shelly] I arrived with my two dogs
to Mike's house.
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[dogs barking]
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{\an8}[Shelly] It was just as cute,
or cuter, than the picture.
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I notice, off to the side of the garage,
he had like this chicken coop.
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[chickens clucking]
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There were two different rooms.
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There was the blue room,
and there was a yellow room.
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So, I thought,
"It's not gonna be too crowded, and yay."
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Michael Dudley presents kind of geeky.
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Computer programmer kind of guy.
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Duke, his Chihuahua,
was always right beside him,
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{\an8}just following him, never on a leash.
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{\an8}His kitchen was really well-stocked,
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and he said, "Make yourself at home."
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He knew that I was interviewing
for these different jobs.
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Some of them are a couple of hours away,
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and I was trying
to figure out transportation,
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and he was like,
"I can take you, don't worry about it."
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"Wow, okay. Thank you. That's nice."
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[intriguing music playing]
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[Shelly] On those drives,
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we would just start
randomly talking more about stuff,
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and I noticed he was intelligent.
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He understood when I used obtuse phrases.
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He, you know, would laugh about something,
and he had a very dry sense of humor.
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He spent a lot of time in his basement.
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On one side, he had a big computer,
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and then on the other side,
he had two of those huge computers.
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I just thought,
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"Well, maybe he's kind of got a compulsion
for computers or something."
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[crickets chirping]
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One day, he told me he was just gonna go
for his normal nighttime walk with Duke.
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And I said, "Oh great, let's go."
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We were walking
around the neighborhood, chatting,
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and I remember Duke was off-leash.
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And I'm like, "Where...
where is Duke anyway?"
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And then we walked a little more,
and we were like, "Yeah, where is he?"
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[snaps fingers]
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[cellphone ringing]
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[Shelly] He gets this phone call.
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And a man told him,
he said, "I'm holding your dog."
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"He'd just been hit."
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"I'm very sorry, the car that hit him
didn't even stop, and he just died."
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[unsettling music playing]
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[Shelly] So we walk there really quickly.
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Picked up his dog.
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We get back.
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He went right back to his bedroom.
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He wanted to go lay down,
and he took the dog with him.
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Mike slept with Duke,
the dead dog, that night.
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[unsettling music continues]
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As he continued to sleep with Duke
for the next two or three nights,
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I was thinking, "This is odd."
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I'm also a psychologist,
and I was thinking,
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this is a complicated grief reaction.
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This guy is in, um...
You know, he's in a state of denial
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to the point where...
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[laughing]...to the point
where it's semi-delusional.
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'Cause the dog was...
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dead-dead. I mean, dead.
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"It's probably time to,
you know, put him to rest."
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And he said,
"I just... I don't think I'm ready yet."
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[unsettling music continues]
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[Shelly] He had a freezer.
You know, he said,
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"I'm gonna put him in there
until, you know, I'm just ready."
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And then he put him in his freezer.
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And the whole time I stayed there,
which was over a month,
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the dog was still in the freezer.
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[chilling music playing]
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[Jessica gasps]
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As a favor for Austin's aunt,
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Jessie would help houseclean
in return for being able to stay there.
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[Charleen] Michael Dudley used to get
a lot of cars from the auction,
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and there were a lot of cars
coming and going.
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So Austin would often
be working on those cars for him.
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Austin didn't share a whole lot
of what was going on at the house with me.
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[chilling music playing]
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[Charleen] But he did mention there were
a lot of rules living at the house,
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that he had cameras everywhere.
283
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Michael Dudley knew everything
that went on at that house.
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Everybody needed permission
to go in there.
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I went over one time
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shortly after Austin and Jessica
had moved in.
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Austin had to call him to ask and see
if we could come inside the house.
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And Michael Dudley
would probably be keeping track
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of how long we were staying.
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So we only stayed about a half an hour.
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Why that is, I don't know.
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That's the big question.
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What was he hiding?
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[ominous music playing]
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You got to understand that Mike Dudley
and all the people up at that house
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were up to no good, really.
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And often,
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Mike Dudley would have Austin or Jessie
or both of them go do little jobs for him,
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whether it's stealing somebody's car,
getting car parts for him...
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I heard it from a couple different people
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that he ran this whole little ring
of fenced goods, things like that.
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Austin is somebody who doesn't have
a lot of choices of where to live.
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It was a clean environment,
it kept him out of the weather,
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and so I think that they just
learned to live with kind of his...
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strangeness.
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[dark music playing]
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[somber music playing]
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{\an8}It was 2019, and my dad
had a series of health problems,
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{\an8}and I had to quickly get to Kansas.
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Anyone that was gonna
take care of my dogs,
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it was gonna be a favor,
'cause it was super last minute.
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{\an8}And Mike said he would.
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{\an8}And I... "Thank you, thank you, thank you."
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I mean, they've been there before.
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I knew he was good with dogs
because he was a dog lover,
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so I didn't give it a second thought.
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My dogs are my life.
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One of my dogs is named Ringo.
He's a Jack Russell.
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And the other's name was Pepper.
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And they'd been raised together
so they're, like, fixtures together.
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That was my joy.
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They were with me all the time.
That's how close we were.
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So they landed back up at Mike's house.
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[hen clucking]
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Mike shared with me that he had
some new people staying at his house.
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He mentioned his new renters
were Austin and Jessica.
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I did notice Mike was taking in
more street or edgy people.
328
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[intriguing music playing]
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[Shelly] While I was in Kansas,
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I would check in with Mike
almost every day
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to touch in with my dogs and also chat
about what was going on with my dad.
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He was being supportive, in general.
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And my dogs were great.
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And then one day he told me
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they were gone.
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{\an8}[chilling music playing]
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{\an8}[Shelly] They had run away.
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"What?"
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My heart dropped out of my body.
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I'm beside myself.
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Mike's reassuring me he's out looking,
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he's doing everything in the world
he can do to look for my dogs.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[Shelly] It was a long time,
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at least two weeks,
that both of them were gone.
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I'm becoming physically ill. I'm sick.
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They were chipped,
but they didn't have their collars
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with identification on,
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and so I was always calling
the microchip company.
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And one of them got a hit,
but it was just Ringo.
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And Mike said,
"I'm going over to get your dog."
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[Michael] Hey, Ringo!
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[woman laughing]
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[Shelly] Mike sends me this video,
of going to these people's house.
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All is good. Happy, happy, happy.
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[Michael] Thank you so much.
Thank you. Shelly says thank you.
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Well, where's Pepper?
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[uneasy music playing]
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[Shelly] So I was sending him pictures
and, "Please look for Pepper."
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"I have to have Pepper too."
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I was out of town over a month,
almost two months,
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and Pepper was never found
during that whole time.
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When I got back, Mike actually
was the one who picked me up.
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And I just remember it was raining a lot.
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And I'm still crying
and numb about Pepper,
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but knowing Ringo's
gonna be there, and I go,
367
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and Ringo jumps up,
and he's happy to see me as normal.
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And I'm just, "Thank God, my dog."
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[chilling music playing]
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[Shelly] We were there for a few minutes,
and I just sat down at the kitchen table,
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got something to drink.
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And Mike disappeared.
I didn't know what he was doing.
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- And then, all of a sudden, I look up...
- [hen clucking]
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...and he has this fucking hen.
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[foreboding music playing]
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[Shelly] He's holding one of his hens.
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[hen continues clucking]
378
00:23:02,714 --> 00:23:05,467
[Shelly] He looked at me
just dead straight.
379
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"I killed Pepper."
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[foreboding music building]
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[Shelly] I said, "You killed Pepper?"
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"Yes, I killed Pepper."
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I said, "Why did you kill Pepper?"
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And then he says, "He killed her baby."
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[hen clucking]
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"It's an eye for an eye."
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I said, "How?" And he said,
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"I hit him."
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[terrifying music playing]
390
00:23:40,877 --> 00:23:44,714
In the back of my mind, I'm thinking,
"It takes a lot of hitting to kill a dog."
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{\an8}As a psychologist,
my clinician is kicking in,
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'cause I know there's something
deeply disturbed going on.
393
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This is someone who is volatile.
394
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He wasn't mad at me,
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but he was wanting me to know
this distress this dog of mine had caused.
396
00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:06,778
{\an8}And I just had to say,
"Keep it together, Shelly."
397
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"This person can flip and kill me."
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I just, like... This is too much.
399
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I... He fucking killed my dog.
400
00:24:18,331 --> 00:24:19,666
[thunder crashing]
401
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[Shelly] So I just kept myself
straight as I could.
402
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I asked him, "So, Mike,
403
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,675
where did you bury Pepper?"
404
00:24:30,177 --> 00:24:33,805
And he said, "Austin and I cremated him."
405
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:35,765
[thunder crashes]
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00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:41,354
So then I went back to the yellow room,
and I locked the door.
407
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And I called an Uber, and I left.
408
00:24:45,901 --> 00:24:48,403
- [thunder rumbling]
- [windshield wipers swishing]
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[unsettling music playing]
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00:24:55,202 --> 00:24:57,454
[Charleen] Austin had told me one day
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that Michael Dudley
had killed a little puppy.
412
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[dog yelps, whines]
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00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:09,132
[Charleen] And he left it there
for others to see.
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And I'm thinking,
"Why are you living there?"
415
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"This is not a good environment."
416
00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:20,435
And, "Is he and Jessica
gonna be safe here?"
417
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,772
[ominous music playing]
418
00:25:24,689 --> 00:25:28,818
[Charleen] Austin told me
that he saw through his window
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a bunch of guns being unloaded.
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00:25:31,905 --> 00:25:35,742
And he didn't know for sure,
421
00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:39,663
but he thought maybe
Michael Dudley knew that he saw them
422
00:25:39,746 --> 00:25:42,249
and that he... they weren't
supposed to see that.
423
00:25:42,832 --> 00:25:45,585
And he was nervous about it.
424
00:25:46,795 --> 00:25:48,463
Austin and Jessica said,
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"We need to get out of here,
and we're moving, Mom."
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I just said, "Well, are you safe
to stay there now?"
427
00:25:54,844 --> 00:25:57,931
And they told me,
"Yeah, we're... we're fine."
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This was right about
when COVID had started.
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And that was probably
one of the biggest mistakes of their life.
430
00:26:11,403 --> 00:26:13,613
[Kris] Austin and Jessica
came over to my house,
431
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and they were concerned that
he was gonna do something, you know?
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And as they left my house,
literally, they said,
433
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:22,038
"If you don't see us again,
you know who did it."
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00:26:24,291 --> 00:26:27,085
[ominous music continues]
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00:26:28,878 --> 00:26:31,923
[Charleen] I called him, you know,
every couple of weeks or so,
436
00:26:32,007 --> 00:26:33,675
and I hadn't heard from him.
437
00:26:33,758 --> 00:26:37,971
So I was ringing his phone,
and his phone wasn't working.
438
00:26:38,471 --> 00:26:41,891
Well, that was kind of typical of Austin
439
00:26:41,975 --> 00:26:44,769
because he either always sold his phone,
440
00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:47,522
or he didn't have his phone,
or it was dead.
441
00:26:48,064 --> 00:26:52,611
But the first time that I realized
something was wrong
442
00:26:52,694 --> 00:26:55,322
was when I couldn't get a hold of Jessica.
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00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:57,532
She always had her phone.
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00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:02,245
So I called Dean, Austin's dad,
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00:27:02,329 --> 00:27:06,708
and we weren't able
to get a hold of anybody at the house,
446
00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:08,001
which was strange.
447
00:27:08,084 --> 00:27:12,672
So we started leaving
Michael Dudley messages.
448
00:27:13,798 --> 00:27:14,633
[cell phone ringing]
449
00:27:14,716 --> 00:27:18,053
[Charleen] And I said, "I have not
been able to get a hold of you."
450
00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:20,221
"We're looking for Austin and Jessica."
451
00:27:20,305 --> 00:27:24,559
"I need you to call me back,
or I am going to stop by the house."
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00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:25,769
[line ringing]
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00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:28,980
[Charleen] He called me right back,
and he said,
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"Well, they moved out.
They moved out in a hurry."
455
00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:35,028
"And they left me this big,
giant mess to clean up."
456
00:27:35,111 --> 00:27:38,073
And I said, "Well, I'll come over
and clean it up."
457
00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:40,825
You know, and he said, "Oh, that's okay."
458
00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:42,744
"You don't need to come over."
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00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:48,875
So then we started getting nervous,
and we started looking for them.
460
00:27:48,958 --> 00:27:51,711
[suspenseful music playing]
461
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{\an8}Detectives are investigating the remains
found in several bags on Friday
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{\an8}at Duwamish Head.
463
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{\an8}[reporter] The medical examiner's office
has not released information
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about the person who died.
465
00:28:02,806 --> 00:28:05,433
Seattle Police are actively investigating.
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00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:06,935
When we responded
467
00:28:07,018 --> 00:28:09,312
{\an8}to the dump site at Alki,
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it was a suitcase and a duffel bag.
469
00:28:15,026 --> 00:28:19,280
Three days later, we were contacted
by the King County Major Crimes Unit,
470
00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:24,327
and they informed us that they had
another dump site off of the Duwamish,
471
00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:28,373
which is approximately 7.5 miles away
from our dump site.
472
00:28:28,456 --> 00:28:30,667
And they believed
it was related to our case.
473
00:28:33,169 --> 00:28:36,881
[Ray] A person was walking,
discovered another suitcase.
474
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{\an8}They were walking their dog.
475
00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:40,969
The suitcase drew the dog's attention.
476
00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:43,388
[dark music playing]
477
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,434
[Ray] They saw the body parts.
478
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That individual also saw the news
and called the police.
479
00:28:53,898 --> 00:28:57,026
[Cooper] This was our second dump site,
right in the bushy area
480
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:59,571
down here along the edge.
481
00:28:59,654 --> 00:29:02,198
[intriguing music playing]
482
00:29:02,282 --> 00:29:05,452
The water was all the way in.
It was about five feet of standing water.
483
00:29:06,911 --> 00:29:09,789
The body parts were packaged
in the same bags,
484
00:29:09,873 --> 00:29:12,917
and the suitcase was consistent
with the ones we already had.
485
00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:16,504
[Ray] After the detectives
located the body,
486
00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:19,841
we still don't know where they were killed
and how they were killed.
487
00:29:20,341 --> 00:29:24,304
And we were still missing
a significant number of body parts.
488
00:29:26,222 --> 00:29:28,975
[Cooper] So when we finally
went to the autopsy,
489
00:29:29,058 --> 00:29:33,271
the medical examiner's office concluded
that Jessica was shot at least four times.
490
00:29:35,732 --> 00:29:39,527
And one round severed,
I believe, an artery to her heart.
491
00:29:41,237 --> 00:29:46,576
Austin, we've never recovered
his torso or lower half of his body.
492
00:29:47,327 --> 00:29:50,455
But the medical examiner's office ruled,
because they were together,
493
00:29:50,538 --> 00:29:53,416
that more than likely,
they both died of the same cause.
494
00:29:54,334 --> 00:29:57,796
And we know this crime
has occurred weeks ago.
495
00:29:58,296 --> 00:30:03,051
So the chances of finding evidence
at a location, uh, is nil.
496
00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:08,389
We need to find out who these people
were associating with,
497
00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:11,434
who they had issues with,
who had issues with them.
498
00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:14,229
At that point,
499
00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:18,399
we want to start talking
to their friends, their family.
500
00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:20,235
Uh, people that were close to them,
501
00:30:20,318 --> 00:30:22,654
to get an idea
of where they were living at,
502
00:30:22,737 --> 00:30:24,364
if they were living anywhere.
503
00:30:24,447 --> 00:30:28,201
So the first family members we contacted
was, uh, Austin's family.
504
00:30:31,788 --> 00:30:35,583
[somber music playing]
505
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,961
[Charleen] We were constantly
looking for Austin.
506
00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:44,175
By the time we decided that
we were going to do a missing persons...
507
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:45,677
[knocking on door]
508
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,056
...there was a knock on my door,
and it was Detective Cooper.
509
00:30:51,641 --> 00:30:56,145
I asked where he was found
and how he died,
510
00:30:57,272 --> 00:31:01,860
and they told me
that he was found outside.
511
00:31:03,611 --> 00:31:05,530
Later that night,
512
00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:09,492
we looked up the date in Seattle
because we were trying to get information,
513
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:12,453
because they didn't tell us
much of anything.
514
00:31:13,913 --> 00:31:18,459
And the only thing that came up
was the suitcases.
515
00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:24,424
With having my son and Jessica being found
516
00:31:24,507 --> 00:31:27,802
in such a populated area,
517
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:29,304
a popular area,
518
00:31:30,138 --> 00:31:31,514
{\an8}this being on the news,
519
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,102
{\an8}and then it also going on social media,
520
00:31:36,185 --> 00:31:40,857
{\an8}just compounded our grief, our fears.
521
00:31:42,442 --> 00:31:44,652
Those weren't suitcases that washed up.
522
00:31:45,278 --> 00:31:46,487
Those were human beings.
523
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:49,490
That was my son, and that was Jessica.
524
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:50,825
They were real people.
525
00:31:53,953 --> 00:31:55,455
[Gina] I talked to my brother,
526
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:59,042
and I'll just never forget his voice, and...
527
00:32:01,127 --> 00:32:02,378
he was just like,
528
00:32:03,212 --> 00:32:05,506
"They didn't have
to cut them up, you know?"
529
00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:09,969
And I just couldn't believe it.
530
00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:13,973
And seeing that in my brother,
531
00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:19,729
that's what drove me to want to know
what... what really happened, you know?
532
00:32:21,397 --> 00:32:27,236
[dark music playing]
533
00:32:28,237 --> 00:32:30,323
[Cooper] We were able to ascertain
534
00:32:30,406 --> 00:32:33,701
that probably the last time
they were seen alive by Charleen
535
00:32:33,785 --> 00:32:35,828
was the 29th of May.
536
00:32:37,163 --> 00:32:41,000
They were living at a place in Burien,
south of West Seattle.
537
00:32:41,084 --> 00:32:42,627
And that precinct is always busy
538
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:44,837
with narcotics
and narcotics trafficking issues.
539
00:32:46,547 --> 00:32:48,925
Charleen actually
did not know the address,
540
00:32:49,008 --> 00:32:52,053
but she was able to take us
to that location in our car.
541
00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:56,307
And the landlord was a person
by the name of, uh, Mike or Michael.
542
00:32:57,266 --> 00:32:59,310
When we did a records check
on that location,
543
00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:02,313
that's when we first discovered
the name Michael Dudley.
544
00:33:02,397 --> 00:33:03,773
[ominous music playing]
545
00:33:03,856 --> 00:33:07,527
[Cooper] As investigators, we started
doing our background on Michael Dudley.
546
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:10,613
Through records checks,
through law enforcement databases,
547
00:33:10,697 --> 00:33:12,949
we learned that he had
a conviction for drugs.
548
00:33:14,117 --> 00:33:16,536
He had some other arrests, minor arrests.
549
00:33:17,412 --> 00:33:20,373
There were numerous witnesses
that came forward and said,
550
00:33:20,456 --> 00:33:23,543
"Michael Dudley used crack,
and he used methamphetamine."
551
00:33:24,877 --> 00:33:28,047
On our drive-by, we noticed
there were cameras at that location.
552
00:33:28,131 --> 00:33:31,259
A lot of people that are involved in meth
and at their homes,
553
00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:35,221
from my past narcotics experience,
they always had surveillance systems.
554
00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:38,743
The one thing that piqued our interest
555
00:33:38,808 --> 00:33:42,311
is something Austin's dad, Dean,
told us during our interview with him.
556
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:46,858
He began looking for Austin and Jessica.
557
00:33:48,109 --> 00:33:50,319
When they didn't respond
to any of his messages,
558
00:33:50,403 --> 00:33:53,031
he stated he actually went
to Michael's house.
559
00:33:53,114 --> 00:33:55,199
[Dean] So I went over to his house
560
00:33:55,783 --> 00:33:58,953
and said,
"Hey, have you heard from Austin?"
561
00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:04,000
Dudley told me that him and Jessica
had moved out of the house in a hurry.
562
00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:05,835
[disturbing music playing]
563
00:34:05,918 --> 00:34:09,213
[Dean] And he said they left
a big mess in the bedroom
564
00:34:09,297 --> 00:34:11,049
and that he was cleaning it out.
565
00:34:12,216 --> 00:34:15,970
And, uh, I noticed as, you know...
566
00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:21,642
there was some of my kid's clothes
at the base of his garbage can.
567
00:34:22,268 --> 00:34:24,812
[Cooper] How do you know
it was Austin and Jessica's clothing?
568
00:34:24,896 --> 00:34:27,023
[Dean] Because I knew my son's clothing
569
00:34:27,106 --> 00:34:30,860
because the bulk of his clothing
I had bought for him.
570
00:34:32,445 --> 00:34:34,489
[Charleen] We just thought
that that was strange
571
00:34:34,572 --> 00:34:36,532
because that's all they have.
572
00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:41,079
They have their suitcases,
they have their clothes, they have food.
573
00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:43,623
They wouldn't leave those things behind.
574
00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:48,961
[Cooper] Was Michael Dudley,
at this point, a person of interest?
575
00:34:49,045 --> 00:34:50,463
Yes, he was.
576
00:34:53,132 --> 00:34:54,884
[uneasy music playing]
577
00:34:54,967 --> 00:34:57,386
[Cooper] As we continue
to investigate this case,
578
00:34:57,470 --> 00:35:01,891
we talked to one witness that lived
on the north side of Michael Dudley,
579
00:35:01,974 --> 00:35:06,521
that asked us, "Are you guys here
for the 'shots fired' incident
580
00:35:06,604 --> 00:35:07,939
that occurred on the 9th?"
581
00:35:28,709 --> 00:35:31,462
[ominous music playing]
582
00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:37,385
[man on recording]
583
00:36:06,622 --> 00:36:09,709
[Ray] There was a 911 call
from the neighbors.
584
00:36:11,627 --> 00:36:13,629
And there was a police response.
585
00:36:16,632 --> 00:36:19,969
Police knocked on the door.
No one was present.
586
00:36:20,052 --> 00:36:21,220
[knocking on door]
587
00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:24,056
And because they didn't have
anything else to go on,
588
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:26,976
at that point, they didn't have
probable cause for a crime or anything
589
00:36:27,059 --> 00:36:28,144
to further investigate.
590
00:36:29,729 --> 00:36:33,441
That was, for us, a very good
starting point for our forensics.
591
00:36:34,358 --> 00:36:37,987
Within days, we wrote the search warrant
for Jessica's phone,
592
00:36:38,905 --> 00:36:41,782
believing that that's the phone
they were primarily using.
593
00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:46,412
We would get Jessica's
phone records back on June 9th,
594
00:36:46,495 --> 00:36:48,080
on the night of the 911 calls.
595
00:36:48,164 --> 00:36:51,292
The last cell site
that that phone pinged on
596
00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:54,212
was less than a mile
from Mr. Dudley's residence.
597
00:36:55,296 --> 00:36:57,256
So that piqued our interest even more.
598
00:36:58,883 --> 00:37:02,386
[Ray] Jessica's phone was turned off
and never turned back on again.
599
00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:05,431
Ten days later, June 19th,
600
00:37:05,514 --> 00:37:07,433
is when the first set of body parts
601
00:37:07,516 --> 00:37:10,311
was located on Alki Beach
by the teenagers.
602
00:37:12,688 --> 00:37:15,775
[Cooper] As we are working this case
and building our case up,
603
00:37:15,858 --> 00:37:18,819
we were contacted about a witness
that had been taken into custody
604
00:37:18,903 --> 00:37:22,281
on unrelated matters
by the King County Burien Precinct.
605
00:37:23,991 --> 00:37:26,869
We would eventually
have a conversation with this witness.
606
00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:31,290
This witness gave us
information that she had arrived
607
00:37:31,374 --> 00:37:32,875
at Michael Dudley's residence
608
00:37:34,126 --> 00:37:38,965
in the late evening hours
of the 9th of June of 2020,
609
00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:41,550
and ended up staying there.
610
00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:46,973
[Cooper] So, this is regarding
a case I'm investigating,
611
00:37:47,056 --> 00:37:48,557
and it's a homicide case.
612
00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:51,269
And who's your current landlord?
613
00:37:51,352 --> 00:37:53,229
[witness] His name is Michael Dudley.
614
00:37:53,854 --> 00:37:55,582
[Cooper] Do you remember
when you got there...
615
00:37:55,606 --> 00:37:57,108
was anybody else there?
616
00:37:57,733 --> 00:37:59,819
[witness] No, it was super quiet.
617
00:38:02,238 --> 00:38:04,448
Mike's glasses had been broken...
618
00:38:05,825 --> 00:38:07,868
looked like he had been in a scuffle...
619
00:38:08,828 --> 00:38:10,454
what I would call defense wounds.
620
00:38:10,538 --> 00:38:12,748
- [Cooper] Right.
- [witness] Scratches and everything.
621
00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:17,003
[Cooper] Did you know my two victims,
Austin and Jessica?
622
00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:19,505
[witness]
No, I did not know them personally.
623
00:38:19,588 --> 00:38:21,299
I had never seen them personally.
624
00:38:21,382 --> 00:38:23,592
I just know that they were residents
625
00:38:23,676 --> 00:38:26,804
in the bedroom
that I now am a resident at.
626
00:38:26,887 --> 00:38:27,888
[Cooper] Okay.
627
00:38:29,932 --> 00:38:33,060
[witness] The day that I officially
really stayed overnight...
628
00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:36,689
[ominous music playing]
629
00:38:36,772 --> 00:38:38,065
...I open the door,
630
00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:41,319
and right here on the ground
is heaps of clothing.
631
00:38:41,402 --> 00:38:42,737
[door creaks open]
632
00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:45,656
[witness] I can see the figure of a body...
633
00:38:47,658 --> 00:38:49,660
and then, the hand sticking up.
634
00:38:51,078 --> 00:38:52,788
I remember a bloody hand.
635
00:38:55,875 --> 00:38:57,168
I was in the living room.
636
00:38:57,251 --> 00:39:00,379
A couple hours later, he tells me
is there somewhere he can drop me
637
00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:02,131
'cause he needs to clean up the mess.
638
00:39:02,673 --> 00:39:03,673
[Cooper] Okay.
639
00:39:04,383 --> 00:39:05,843
[Ray] This particular witness
640
00:39:05,926 --> 00:39:09,138
provided some fairly key details
for the detective.
641
00:39:09,722 --> 00:39:11,057
First of all,
642
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:14,060
she provided information
that was not publicly released,
643
00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:18,898
um, which makes it easier for us
to believe the rest of her story.
644
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:21,567
[Cooper] Anything else in that room?
645
00:39:22,109 --> 00:39:24,779
[witness] I noticed something yesterday.
You're gonna freak out.
646
00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:26,197
It looks like a bullet hole.
647
00:39:28,657 --> 00:39:29,825
I said, "What happened?"
648
00:39:31,202 --> 00:39:34,038
He told me the boy's gun misfired,
and his didn't.
649
00:39:34,955 --> 00:39:36,123
[dark music sting]
650
00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:38,000
[witness] I got kind of spooked out.
651
00:39:39,001 --> 00:39:41,962
And I couldn't report to anybody
because I... I was scared for my life.
652
00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:44,090
- [Cooper] Right.
- [witness] Know what I'm saying?
653
00:39:45,424 --> 00:39:46,926
[witness inhales shakily]
654
00:39:47,009 --> 00:39:48,302
[Cooper] Take a breath.
655
00:39:49,345 --> 00:39:54,809
The witness is a person with a very heavy
criminal background in theft,
656
00:39:54,892 --> 00:39:56,602
things of that nature, drugs.
657
00:39:56,685 --> 00:39:59,647
Uh, she was...
She had a history of prostitution.
658
00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:02,233
And, for all her flaws,
659
00:40:02,316 --> 00:40:04,860
this witness came across
660
00:40:04,944 --> 00:40:08,739
as being very truthful about
what she saw, uh, on that night,
661
00:40:08,823 --> 00:40:10,658
that late hours of the 9th.
662
00:40:10,741 --> 00:40:15,913
And to me, it was... it was clear that
she feared for her life and her safety.
663
00:40:15,996 --> 00:40:17,373
She was scared to death.
664
00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:22,878
Knowing the information
we just gleaned from the interview,
665
00:40:22,962 --> 00:40:26,215
we believe that Michael Dudley
was the person responsible
666
00:40:26,298 --> 00:40:28,134
for the death of Austin and Jessica.
667
00:40:29,844 --> 00:40:32,304
[Ray] On August 19th
668
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:37,935
is when the police was able
to search his home and arrest him
669
00:40:38,018 --> 00:40:39,353
pursuant to a warrant.
670
00:40:39,437 --> 00:40:41,272
[suspenseful music playing]
671
00:40:42,982 --> 00:40:45,985
[Cooper] I think Michael Dudley
had two personas.
672
00:40:46,777 --> 00:40:48,112
He has his day side,
673
00:40:48,195 --> 00:40:51,198
where he wanted to make himself
look like an everyday John Doe citizen,
674
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,618
and then he had the night side,
675
00:40:54,702 --> 00:40:59,498
where he partook in drug use
on a regular basis.
676
00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:04,462
And then liked to have a persona.
He wasn't someone to be messed with.
677
00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:06,755
So he could play both sides.
678
00:41:09,717 --> 00:41:12,595
Hey, Mike. How you doing, partner?
679
00:41:12,678 --> 00:41:15,473
Detective Cooper, Seattle Police.
You have no idea what this is about?
680
00:41:16,682 --> 00:41:19,202
[Michael] Uh, am I under arrest?
You said that I'm under arrest?
681
00:41:19,226 --> 00:41:21,145
[Cooper] Technically.
That's why you're here.
682
00:41:21,228 --> 00:41:24,440
- [Michael] What am I under arrest for?
- [Cooper] Investigation of homicide.
683
00:41:28,194 --> 00:41:29,820
I have forensic people out there
684
00:41:29,904 --> 00:41:32,740
going through your property
and things like that, okay?
685
00:41:33,824 --> 00:41:36,243
Austin and Jessica lived with you.
686
00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:38,871
Apparently that's... that's the last place
they were seen alive.
687
00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:43,459
[Michael] Wait, are you out of your mind?
You're saying I killed them?
688
00:41:44,043 --> 00:41:45,628
- I didn't do it.
- [Cooper] Okay.
689
00:41:45,711 --> 00:41:47,713
- They're my friends.
- Okay then.
690
00:41:48,797 --> 00:41:51,759
- I can't... I need a drink of water.
- [Cooper] Yeah, go ahead, go for it.
691
00:41:52,259 --> 00:41:55,387
I go out there, people were, like,
pointing the finger at you.
692
00:41:55,471 --> 00:41:59,183
They actually told people, they said,
"If anything bad ever happened to us,
693
00:41:59,767 --> 00:42:00,893
look at Mike."
694
00:42:02,102 --> 00:42:05,272
- Why would they even say that?
- I don't know. That's why I'm asking you.
695
00:42:05,856 --> 00:42:08,609
Okay, did you see anything
about them in the news? About, uh...
696
00:42:08,692 --> 00:42:11,403
- Yeah, I...
- [Cooper] Why didn't you call the police?
697
00:42:11,987 --> 00:42:14,323
Because a lot of people
that were good friends
698
00:42:14,406 --> 00:42:18,327
that hadn't even talked to either of them
for two or three years reached out to us.
699
00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:20,955
[detective] Do you see why
we're kind of perplexed?
700
00:42:21,038 --> 00:42:24,959
Well, I was perplexed too.
I mean, you know...
701
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,379
[Cooper] Michael Dudley,
never, in our interview,
702
00:42:28,462 --> 00:42:30,839
could explain why he didn't come forward
703
00:42:30,923 --> 00:42:33,425
after seeing in the news
that Austin and Jessica
704
00:42:33,509 --> 00:42:35,511
had been killed violently.
705
00:42:36,303 --> 00:42:39,598
Did you have any problems
with Austin at all? I mean...
706
00:42:39,682 --> 00:42:42,101
[Michael] Uh, the only problem
I had with him was stealing.
707
00:42:42,184 --> 00:42:43,018
[Cooper] Mm-hmm.
708
00:42:43,102 --> 00:42:46,146
[Michael] He was a freaking prolific thief
and a meth user,
709
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:51,735
and his habit was to, uh, steal,
and after, get a bag of meth.
710
00:42:51,819 --> 00:42:54,989
He was playing
with some very dangerous, uh, gangs.
711
00:42:55,072 --> 00:42:58,867
- What do you mean?
- [Michael] Like, you know, gangster stuff.
712
00:42:58,951 --> 00:43:02,371
And I got this right,
and it's gonna... They...
713
00:43:03,414 --> 00:43:06,542
He robbed the Samoans
who robbed the Mexicans
714
00:43:06,625 --> 00:43:08,627
who owed money to some cartel.
715
00:43:09,712 --> 00:43:11,213
- Wow.
- [Michael] I know, I...
716
00:43:11,297 --> 00:43:13,132
Take it or leave it, I don't... You know.
717
00:43:13,215 --> 00:43:15,301
Did he say what he robbed
from the Samoans?
718
00:43:15,384 --> 00:43:19,471
He said it was, um,
like duffel bags full of dope.
719
00:43:20,889 --> 00:43:25,144
He would give us several red herrings
to try to distract us.
720
00:43:25,769 --> 00:43:27,521
You ever shoot your gun in your house?
721
00:43:29,023 --> 00:43:30,107
Uh...
722
00:43:30,983 --> 00:43:33,694
I have occasionally, uh...
723
00:43:34,987 --> 00:43:37,031
What are your forensic people finding?
I mean...
724
00:43:37,114 --> 00:43:39,199
Well, I have people calling me, saying,
725
00:43:39,283 --> 00:43:42,536
"Well, Cooper, you got bullet strikes
in this blue room."
726
00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:44,913
- [Michael] What does that mean?
- Well, I'm asking you.
727
00:43:44,997 --> 00:43:46,915
Because I'm asking you, do you recall...
728
00:43:46,999 --> 00:43:47,833
[Michael] No.
729
00:43:47,916 --> 00:43:50,461
[Cooper]...your gun being discharged
in that room at any time?
730
00:43:50,544 --> 00:43:51,587
[Michael] Oh, no, no.
731
00:43:55,215 --> 00:43:57,426
[Cooper] The room, called the blue room,
732
00:43:57,509 --> 00:44:00,512
the room that Austin and Jessica
was living in,
733
00:44:00,596 --> 00:44:03,223
had just been repainted,
just been cleansed.
734
00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:06,977
You could still smell
the cleansers in the air.
735
00:44:08,020 --> 00:44:09,980
There were bullet strikes in that room.
736
00:44:10,064 --> 00:44:11,649
[tense music playing]
737
00:44:11,732 --> 00:44:14,610
[Cooper] We would eventually
dig bullets out of the walls.
738
00:44:15,861 --> 00:44:17,655
I got a bed frame here,
739
00:44:17,738 --> 00:44:19,740
and there's bullet strikes
on the bed frame.
740
00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:22,743
I don't know, uh...
741
00:44:25,329 --> 00:44:28,540
{\an8}While we never recovered a gun,
ballistics is able to tell
742
00:44:28,624 --> 00:44:31,126
these three bullets
were fired from the same gun.
743
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,132
Has anybody ever been
injured in that room?
744
00:44:37,216 --> 00:44:40,094
Because I'm being told
there's blood in the room too.
745
00:44:40,177 --> 00:44:45,683
Um... Well, yeah,
I mean, Jessica cut her, uh, thigh.
746
00:44:45,766 --> 00:44:47,643
- Yeah.
- How long ago was that?
747
00:44:47,726 --> 00:44:49,728
Oh God, I don't know, um...
748
00:44:49,812 --> 00:44:54,233
On the opposite end of the headboard
from where the bullet strike was,
749
00:44:54,316 --> 00:44:59,655
{\an8}the CSI and the blood spatter specialist
would find what's knows as a blood swipe
750
00:44:59,738 --> 00:45:02,700
that tested positive, eventually,
for Austin's blood.
751
00:45:02,783 --> 00:45:04,243
[Cooper] Okay, turn around.
752
00:45:06,036 --> 00:45:07,162
Relax.
753
00:45:07,246 --> 00:45:09,289
[Cooper] Once we arrested him,
754
00:45:09,373 --> 00:45:13,168
I asked for three months
of Mr. Dudley's cell phone records.
755
00:45:14,086 --> 00:45:19,258
There was only one time his phone
ever left Burien in that three months,
756
00:45:19,341 --> 00:45:22,678
and that was on the late hours
of June 18th,
757
00:45:22,761 --> 00:45:26,807
{\an8}to the early morning hours of the 19th,
758
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:29,935
where the phone came into West Seattle,
759
00:45:31,186 --> 00:45:32,855
circled out of West Seattle,
760
00:45:33,522 --> 00:45:35,107
went down by the Duwamish,
761
00:45:35,983 --> 00:45:37,234
and then back home.
762
00:45:38,986 --> 00:45:41,405
It just so happens that our dump sites
763
00:45:41,488 --> 00:45:44,908
are right along those locations
where his phone was pinging at.
764
00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:51,957
I believe, based on the violent history
between these three individuals,
765
00:45:52,458 --> 00:45:58,172
something occurred the evening
of the 9th at his house where, eventually,
766
00:45:58,255 --> 00:45:59,840
he shot these individuals
767
00:45:59,923 --> 00:46:02,593
and, in the end, would dismember them
768
00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:05,929
and package their body parts in suitcases,
769
00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:08,599
and then realized,
"I need to dispose of them."
770
00:46:15,272 --> 00:46:17,316
[reporter] Learning new details
in a gruesome case
771
00:46:17,399 --> 00:46:20,944
of two bodies found in a suitcase
on Alki Beach in Seattle.
772
00:46:22,696 --> 00:46:25,908
King County prosecutors
charged landlord Michael Dudley
773
00:46:25,991 --> 00:46:28,452
now with two counts
of second-degree murder.
774
00:46:29,578 --> 00:46:32,790
When Mike Dudley first showed up in court,
775
00:46:33,582 --> 00:46:36,627
he acted like he didn't know
what was going on.
776
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:39,254
He was like, "What's going on?"
777
00:46:39,338 --> 00:46:41,590
"I'm just a frail old man."
778
00:46:41,673 --> 00:46:44,092
You know, "I don't know
what's going on here."
779
00:46:44,176 --> 00:46:47,012
Who does he think he's fooling, you know?
780
00:46:47,095 --> 00:46:49,431
He... he's not as smart as he thinks he is.
781
00:46:50,432 --> 00:46:53,143
{\an8}[Ray] We don't know for a fact
what motivated Michael Dudley
782
00:46:53,227 --> 00:46:55,229
{\an8}to kill Jessica and Austin.
783
00:46:55,938 --> 00:46:57,564
Was it an argument over drugs?
784
00:46:57,648 --> 00:47:00,692
Was it an argument
over some other transactions?
785
00:47:00,776 --> 00:47:01,819
We don't know.
786
00:47:02,361 --> 00:47:05,781
Nor do we need to know for the purposes
of proving the murder charge.
787
00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:11,411
{\an8}What I can prove is the fact
he used a firearm to commit these crimes.
788
00:47:11,495 --> 00:47:14,915
Dismembering their bodies,
hiding them in suitcases,
789
00:47:14,998 --> 00:47:17,417
disposing them
in multiple bodies of water.
790
00:47:19,628 --> 00:47:22,506
[juror] We, the jury,
find the defendant, Michael Lee Dudley,
791
00:47:22,589 --> 00:47:24,925
guilty of the crime
of murder in the second degree
792
00:47:25,008 --> 00:47:26,844
as charged in count one.
793
00:47:26,927 --> 00:47:29,054
[reporter 1] Today,
a jury found Austin and Jessica
794
00:47:29,137 --> 00:47:33,016
{\an8}were murdered by their landlord,
62-year-old Michael Dudley.
795
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:34,860
[reporter 2] Dudley expected
to be sentenced,
796
00:47:34,893 --> 00:47:36,645
and faces life in prison without parole.
797
00:47:37,896 --> 00:47:41,024
[Charleen] The day that he walked in
for sentencing,
798
00:47:41,108 --> 00:47:44,278
in his red jailhouse suit,
799
00:47:44,361 --> 00:47:47,239
it wasn't until the judge told him
800
00:47:47,322 --> 00:47:51,285
that he would be basically
spending the rest of his life in jail,
801
00:47:51,827 --> 00:47:53,370
I broke down and cried.
802
00:47:54,705 --> 00:47:58,542
That was the best outcome
that I could get from this entire thing,
803
00:47:58,625 --> 00:48:03,505
was to see him sitting there
with handcuffs on
804
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:05,674
and getting his fingerprints taken,
805
00:48:06,216 --> 00:48:08,218
knowing that
806
00:48:09,761 --> 00:48:11,555
he didn't get away with it.
807
00:48:12,723 --> 00:48:15,392
He'd gotten away
with a lot of stuff in his life,
808
00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:19,313
but he messed
with the wrong family this time.
809
00:48:19,396 --> 00:48:21,523
He messed with the wrong detectives.
810
00:48:21,607 --> 00:48:25,360
[solemn music playing]
811
00:48:39,166 --> 00:48:42,753
[Cooper] To this day, we've never
recovered the rest of Austin Wenner.
812
00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:47,090
When we came out here that morning,
813
00:48:47,174 --> 00:48:50,218
we scoured the edges for black bags.
814
00:48:50,302 --> 00:48:53,013
But we never found anything,
unfortunately.
815
00:48:53,096 --> 00:48:55,599
So... And that bothers me to the end.
816
00:48:59,645 --> 00:49:00,729
[exhales emotionally]
817
00:49:04,024 --> 00:49:06,026
[crying]
818
00:49:12,449 --> 00:49:14,284
[chuckles sadly] It's just hard.
819
00:49:14,785 --> 00:49:16,370
[sniffles, exhales]
820
00:49:18,288 --> 00:49:20,666
'Cause I know their family.
They're good people.
821
00:49:22,584 --> 00:49:26,254
And... you always want to do
the best you can,
822
00:49:27,005 --> 00:49:28,382
and give them some peace.
823
00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:30,216
And...
824
00:49:31,385 --> 00:49:33,011
I'll remember that all my life.
825
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:35,722
That I couldn't find the rest of Austin.
826
00:49:37,140 --> 00:49:38,225
That will bother me.
827
00:49:38,934 --> 00:49:39,934
[sniffles]
828
00:49:43,063 --> 00:49:44,314
[exhales]
829
00:49:58,787 --> 00:50:02,332
[Charleen] I really thank
the Seattle Police Department
830
00:50:02,416 --> 00:50:04,960
and the prosecutors
for everything they've done.
831
00:50:05,794 --> 00:50:10,924
As horrific and gruesome
and awful and terrible
832
00:50:11,425 --> 00:50:13,844
as this whole thing has been,
833
00:50:14,761 --> 00:50:20,517
not knowing where my son was
would have been the death of me.
834
00:50:22,269 --> 00:50:24,396
That, I couldn't have handled.
835
00:50:24,479 --> 00:50:25,897
[emotional music playing]
836
00:50:25,981 --> 00:50:30,110
[Charleen] And I really, truly believe
that God brought him home
837
00:50:30,193 --> 00:50:33,947
in a place where I feel peace,
838
00:50:34,614 --> 00:50:35,657
which is the water.
839
00:50:37,659 --> 00:50:40,954
The beach is my favorite...
favorite place to be.
840
00:50:41,830 --> 00:50:44,374
And I really feel like God
brought him home to me there
841
00:50:44,458 --> 00:50:49,254
because he knew that that's somewhere
that I always find peace.
842
00:50:49,963 --> 00:50:53,425
And, I really just kind of feel like,
843
00:50:53,508 --> 00:50:57,721
you know, his body was washed clean,
and he was brought home to his mom.
844
00:51:08,523 --> 00:51:10,358
[chilling music playing]
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