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[coughing]
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[child] Mom!
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[wind]
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Mom!
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-We all know the
story of Pompeii, right?
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2,000 years ago,
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a bustling Roman town on
the shores of the Mediterranean
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was completely destroyed,
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buried beneath the volcanic
eruption of Mount Vesuvius.
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[rumbling and eruptions]
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And it all happened so fast.
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The people didn't
stand a chance.
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The story of Pompeii
is a story of death.
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[screams]
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But that isn't exactly true.
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Pompeii isn't buried
alive instantly.
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It actually took a day
to be entombed in ash.
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A single day.
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That are among the most
harrowing anyone on this earth
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has ever experienced.
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[screaming]
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[Tom] Nonetheless, a day!
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A chance!
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So what if there's another
story to tell here?
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A story of survival.
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So I'm gonna try and
trace 3 real people.
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Real Romans
through this disaster,
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through that day,
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because maybe we
don't know the story of
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Pompeii after all.
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So, let's try that again,
shall we?
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[audio rewinding]
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[ticking clock]
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I remember visiting
Pompeii for the first time.
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It was... truly...
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...extraordinary.
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[♪ upbeat music playing
"You Get What You Give"]
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It was the summer of 1998.
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I took the train down
through France to Italy.
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♪ Don't let go ♪
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My first trip away
with no grown-ups.
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♪ This world is
gonna pull through ♪
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♪ Don't give up ♪
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Just me and two friends.
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We stayed in youth hostels,
swam in the Mediterranean.
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And inevitably
ate lots of pizza.
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But it was our visit to Pompeii
that changed everything.
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Because in Pompeii,
you can time travel.
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A whole Roman town,
buried for centuries,
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perfectly preserved.
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And all across the site,
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there were plaster casts
of real Romans, real people,
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tragically frozen
where they died,
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and every one of them
left behind a story.
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And those are the stories
which inspired me.
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They inspired me
to learn Latin,
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they inspired me to study the
ancient world at university.
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To pursue acting.
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To bring people back.
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I'm 45 now, and those images
of all those people who died
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there have never left me.
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So I've returned to Pompeii
finally, to tell their stories.
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Because now new research
is uncovering the names of
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real Romans who actually
experienced the eruption,
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and some who even survived it.
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And right now.
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There is a powerful
new technology,
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and it's right at the
cutting edge of science.
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It's been developed
which can trace these names
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through the disaster.
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This has never been used before.
It's never been seen before.
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And we are fortunate enough
to have been granted exclusive
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access for the very
first time to this
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groundbreaking new technology.
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Hang on a second,
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a spreadsheet is
the radical new tech?
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-It sure is.
I developed it myself.
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-Oh, wait.
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I haven't even introduced you
to Professor Steven Tuck yet.
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Steven runs the
Pompeii Survivors Project,
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which aims to trace the
life stories of real people
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who experienced the
eruption in A.D. 79.
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-Pretty impressive, huh?
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Inscriptions from across
the Roman world are all here
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in this database.
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[Tom] Um, Steven, it's great,
but I think we can, uh.
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I think we can be a
bit more cinematic than
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the spreadsheet no?
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-Very impressive, Hiddleston.
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-Meh, I've seen
some Avengers movies.
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[Steven] So the Pompeii
Survivors Project is, um,
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is designed to find
matches in this database.
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The goal is to find the name
of somebody who is in Pompeii
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just before the eruption,
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and then we find
that same person later
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in another community, then,
bingo, we’ve found a survivor.
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[Steven] Oh, we have a match.
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I'll translate.
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-Oh, wait. Hang on.
Um, let me have a go.
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"El Avianius Lucius,
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we would say, viam
qua territorialum,
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Pompeianorum sua
pecunia munierunt."
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So, Lucius Avianius paved
this road with his own money?
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Impressive, Hiddleston.
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I studied classics at
university.
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Well, I teach classics.
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-Point taken.
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So what happened to this
Lucius Avianius then?
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[Steven] Well, the plaque's
date suggests that by the time
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of the eruption,
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this Lucius Avianius
was probably long dead...
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-Ah.
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[Steven] ...um, however, his
descendants were still around.
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Including a boy,
maybe a teenager.
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-Oh, so maybe a grandson.
-Could well be. Um...
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...the second inscription
is the Roman equivalent of a,
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of a payday loan.
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It shows that in the space
of a single generation,
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the Avianius’ went from being
among the city's wealthy elite
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to being among
Pompeii’s poorest.
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And this third inscription right
here suggests that Avianius was
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apprenticed to a
local blacksmith family.
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-So, Avianius is part
of a family that had been rich,
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where they've lost everything,
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and now he's working at
an ordinary blacksmith.
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I think I might have found
myself my first real Roman,
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and he's just a boy.
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I want to bring him
back from the past.
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He's more than just
a footnote in history.
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More than a detail
on a spreadsheet.
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He was a human being.
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Avianius.
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So let's go back
to that day in A.D. 79,
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because after all, in Pompeii,
you can time travel.
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For Avianius, it's
just another day.
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Maybe he is at his
apprenticeship at the forge
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with no idea what Vesuvius
is about to unleash.
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[Marcus] Okay, in this moment
determines the very future.
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Right, it forges what
this bronze will become.
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[Lucius] Whoa. That's deep.
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We should put that
on a sign outside.
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Marcus Masurius,
forging the future.
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[Marcus] Alright. Alright.
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[Tom] Wait. Pause.
Steven, hang on, wait.
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Who's this Marcus Masuri guy?
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-Oh, well, there's
a number of artifacts found.
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Um, most specifically,
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shovels that are stamped
with the Masuri family name.
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So they're a local
family of bronze-smiths.
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Um, they had a forge
outside the city walls here
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in this area.
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[Tom] Right. Wow.
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But crucially, on the
day of the eruption,
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Avianius is working at a
blacksmith outside the city.
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[Marcus] Here you go.
Here you go. You’ve got this.
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[Lucius] Okay.
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[Marcus] You’re alright,
alright.
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Oh my God.
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Oh God!
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What, what did I just
say about being careful?
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Hours of work ruined.
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[Lucius] It was an earthquake.
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[Marcus] Avi, listen, you need
to learn to take responsibility.
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You've got to grow up.
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You can start with an apology.
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Wait.
Where do you think you're going?
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[Lucius] Why would I want
to grow up to be like you
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and make shovels?
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[Marcus] Alright son,
don’t throw a tantrum.
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[Lucius] You're not my dad.
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You're just some blacksmith.
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[Marcus] Hey. Come on.
Come on. Don't be like that.
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Avianius, wait.
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Avi.
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[Marcus groans]
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[Tom] Avianius is a teenager.
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Just like I was when I
first came to Pompeii.
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But if I'm gonna tell the story
of what happened to Avianius,
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then I need to combine the
historical evidence with what
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I do as an actor.
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I need to imagine it.
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I'll follow in his footsteps.
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Walk alongside him.
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See these streets
through his eyes.
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[overlapping chatter]
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To try and fill in the gaps
in the archaeological record.
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This is how I tell
Avianius' story.
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An ordinary boy...
on an extraordinary day.
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[distant rumbling]
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[loud knocking]
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[Lucius] Mom?
Mom, why’s the door jammed?
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[Claudia] Avi, ssh. Stop!
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Come inside. Come.
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[Lucius] Mom, what's going on?
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[Claudia] Well, the
moneylenders have been back,
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but it’s um, it's fine,
everything's fine.
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[Tom] Wait, Steven.
Hang on. Pause.
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It seems like they
could have debts.
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So I'm guessing this family’s
really fallen on hard times.
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[Steven] Oh, I think hard
times is an understatement.
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I mean, if you think about
how class and status-based the
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Roman world was,
to have fallen from high
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political office to
blacksmith apprentice in
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a single generation,
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I think they would
have considered that a,
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a social fate worse than death.
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[Tom] Right, so they’ve
lost status, lost money.
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I mean, maybe dad’s not around.
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That’s a lot for a young boy.
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[Claudia] Come on.
What did you do? Tell me.
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[Lucius] I quit.
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[Claudia] Sorry, you quit?
You just walked out?
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[Lucius] We don't
need his charity.
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[Claudia] Avi, it's not charity,
it's a job.
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Avi, just, come on.
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Think about what
your grandfather did.
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He built half the
roads in this city.
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He worked hard.
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He, he applied himself.
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[Lucius] Mom, who cares?
Not this again.
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[Claudia] Please,
you have to stop.
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Avi, you have to go back.
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Get Marcus to give
you another chance.
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Give you your job back.
Beg if you need to.
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-Beg?
-Yes!
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-No way, no.
-Yes. Yes. Avi. Apologize.
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I'm relying on you to--
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-To what...
pay your debts.
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-You need to learn
to support yourself.
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[Lucius] Support you you mean?
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-Avi, please,
don't be like your father.
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Don't throw a good job away.
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-Well, maybe
I am like Dad.
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He didn't want anything
to do with you either.
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[Claudia] Avi, stop.
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[intense rumbling]
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[Tom] Wait, pause,
Steven, hang on.
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We need to talk about
these earthquakes.
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Because they keep happening.
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They have to be connected
to Vesuvius, right?
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-Oh, absolutely.
-Okay,
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so if we're gonna try
and unlock the choices that
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people of Pompeii, that Avianius
make that day,
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we have to understand more
precisely the volcanology,
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the phases of the eruption.
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What do you know
about volcanoes?
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-Um, that they're scary
and not my field of expertise.
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-Right. Better find a
helpful geoscientist, then.
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-Good call, Hiddleston.
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[Tom] It's time we meet
our story's villain.
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The volcano.
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Being here on top
of Mount Vesuvius,
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you can still feel its power.
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Even now, 2,000 years later,
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it's alive, a living mountain.
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-Do you know, I first
came up here when I was 17.
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-Really?
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[Tom] Nothing’s changed,
obviously look exactly the same.
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And I remember feeling that
this is the scene of a crime.
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-It kind of is, and like
any scene of a crime,
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there are clues if you
know where to look.
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[Tom] I guess I should also
introduce you to our
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helpful geoscientist
Professor Chris Jackson.
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-And those clues help
us build up a really detailed
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timeline of what happened,
and that timeline,
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it begins with
those earthquakes.
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-So the tremors
are a part of it then?
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-Yeah, they are telling
you about the unrest that's
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occurring within the volcano.
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And this is the first
phase of the eruption,
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and on that day
2,000 years ago, magma,
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molten rock, is rising up,
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pushing against
the rocks and fracturing them
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and causing those earthquakes.
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[Chris] And it is ultimately
the earthquakes that tell us
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that pressure is building and
building and building until.
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-Explosion!
-Well, eruption, actually.
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-This is why you're here. Okay?
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Okay. Phase one, earthquakes.
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Phase two, eruption.
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[Chris] That's right.
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And the eruption was
incredibly powerful.
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It released more thermal energy
than the atomic bombs dropped
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on Hiroshima and
Nagasaki combined.
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-I mean, how do
you survive that?
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So the tremors are
like a countdown to
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the eruption itself.
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The countdown has already begun.
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And if Avianius
recognizes these earthquakes
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as warning signs,
if he doesn't ignore them,
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then there's still just enough
time to escape Pompeii before
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all hell breaks loose.
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By now, he can't
have more than an hour
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before Vesuvius erupts.
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One single hour.
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[Steven] Wait, wait, Tom,
I’ve found something.
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-I'm sorry, we
don't have time for this,
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we've only got an hour.
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Um, uh, what, you know,
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why are we looking at,
what is it,
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some sort of Roman
advertisement?
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[Steven] Well, this is
another potential survivor,
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and also an opportunity for you
to test your Latin, Hiddleston.
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-Yes, professor.
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Okay.
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Balneum venerium,
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the Venus baths,
some sort of bathhouse.
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Et nongentum, is for
respectable people.
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So this is a fancy bathhouse.
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This is hard to
decipher this stuff,
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but it seems to have been
owned by someone called Felix.
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Maybe that says Julius Felix.
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[Steven] Well, excavation
records in the database suggest
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that this Felix’s property
had been evacuated.
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Um there's no horses,
no carts, no treasures.
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-An organized evacuation.
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So someone does
heed the warnings.
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This is another clue.
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You're right, I
should look in there.
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If this Felix recognizes the
earthquakes for what they are
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and evacuates the entire
property and that is a
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remarkable lead, that's
another potential survivor.
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But who is this Julius Felix?
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I'm gonna pause Avianius' story
for a moment to investigate the
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ruins of this Felix's home.
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Because, after all, he could
be my second real Roman.
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[Tom] This is bigger
than I thought.
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You've got a swimming pool,
bar, restaurant.
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It's a, huh, bathhouse.
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Beautiful garden with
this long water feature.
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This isn't a private
dwelling, this is an estate.
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So this place must be
owned by an incredibly
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wealthy Roman businessman.
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[Amalthea] Um, well,
the first thing Sir,
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the guests have
ordered more wine but one of
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them's already
vomited on Sylvia.
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[Julius] If they've asked for
more wine give them more wine.
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I like a man who
knows how to drink.
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[burps]
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-Hold on, Tom.
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[Tom] Wait. What?
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-Well, this place wasn't
owned by a businessman,
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she was a businesswoman.
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Not Julius, Felix, but Julia.
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[Tom] Ah!
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This is helpful and
embarrassingly accurate,
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archaeologist and professor
of classics, Caitie Barrett,
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fresh from her own excavation
right here in Pompeii.
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So, Caitie, look,
here's the thing.
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When I was at university,
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I was taught that um
Rome was a patriarchy and
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that women, by and large,
couldn't own property,
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certainly not run a
business this size.
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-And that's part of why
Pompeii is such a crucial site,
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because it lets us see what
Roman life was actually like,
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and not just what wealthy
and usually male authors
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wanted to represent it.
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We've got evidence for
women doing all kinds of work.
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Shop owners,
account keepers, bakers,
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and laundry workers.
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The whole social spectrum,
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from enslaved to free
and from rich to poor.
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-But this woman, the
woman who ran this place,
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she's not employed,
she's the employer.
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I mean, this is her
business, right?
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She's the boss.
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-Yeah, it would have been,
as far as we know,
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really unusual for an
independent woman to run
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an operation like this.
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As the head of the household,
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she would have also
been responsible for people's
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religious well-being.
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Keeping her household
safe in the eyes of the gods.
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[Tom] Mm, of course.
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[Caitie] And in fact, if
we look right over there,
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there used to be a
household shrine there dedicated
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to the Egyptian goddess Isis.
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And we can imagine Julia
as the head of household,
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presiding over
religious rituals there.
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[Julia] Isis. Lady.
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[Caitie] Tom, is
everything okay?
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[Tom] Sorry.
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Obviously, I took a bit of a
wrong turn with the gender.
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So let's definitely
try that again.
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[Amalthea] Well, the
first thing is, Julia,
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the guests have
ordered more wine,
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but one of them has
already vomited on Silvia.
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[Julia] Give them the
watered-down stuff we
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save for children.
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What else?
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-Well, Cassius,
everyone's favorite guest,
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he's complained about
the snails again.
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Apparently, this time they
were tepid and tasteless,
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and he still hasn't
paid last month's bill.
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[Julia] Oh, politely
remind him that he has until
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tonight to pay.
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[Amalthea] Politely?
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[Julia] Mm-hmm.
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[Amalthea] I’d kick
him to the cobbles.
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[Julia] Mm, not yet.
No, darling.
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Much better to add a
free plate of honey.
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Sweeten him up, and
he'll keep spending.
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[Amalthea] All right.
But it's your honey.
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I'm sure somehow he'll
find it tepid and tasteless.
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[Julia] Amalthea, can
you check my necklace?
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I think the clasp’s
come loose again.
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[Amalthea] There.
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[Julia] Ah, thank you.
Keeps coming undone.
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Let's go to see those baths.
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[distant rumbling]
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[clock ticking]
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[Caitie] We might think of
Roman baths like a a fancy spa.
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So now we're in
Julia Felix's bathhouse.
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-That really is a spa.
I see what you mean.
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[Caitie] It's got everything.
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Here is the very
swanky frigidarium.
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The cold plunge.
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-Ah, love a cold plunge.
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This is amazing.
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She really was a
successful businesswoman.
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[Caitie] Absolutely.
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Before the discovery
of this place,
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historians would have imagined
somebody like Julia Felix
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to be impossible.
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-Impossible, Julia.
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[Julia] Oh, I see,
the earthquakes,
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they have caused a leak.
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[Amalthea] Yes, well, the
tremors are getting worse,
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and the guests are.
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[Julia] Are what?
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[Amalthea] They're starting
to wonder if it's a sign.
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[Julia] Oh, and
they are concerned?
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[Amalthea] Some are.
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[Julia groans]
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[Julia] Okay. Well, they
need to know that they are safe
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in my house.
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[Amalthea] Should I have
everyone gathered by the shrine?
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[Julia] Yes.
We'll make offerings.
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00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,520
Oh, and that reminds me.
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Signs, how is my
new sign coming?
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[Amalthea] Uh, well, I
think it's safe to say it's
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not going unnoticed.
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[Tom] And 2,000 years ago,
the sign was right there.
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[Caitie] This is the spot,
right there.
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And this sign actually
has one more thing to tell
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us about Julia.
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Shall we take another look?
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[Tom] Okay.
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Elegant Venus Baths
of one Julia Felix.
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Thank you.
Um, Daughter of Spurius.
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Spurius.
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Um, but that's the Latin
for unknown, right?
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[Caitie] Yeah.
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So Julia is telling us that she,
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or maybe her father,
was born out of wedlock.
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-Oh, I really did
get this wrong.
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Not only is she a woman,
she's come from nothing,
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and she's built all this.
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And the sign was right there.
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[Julia] It's beautiful,
isn't it?
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He's done an
excellent job, hasn’t he?
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-Did you really think it
was a good idea to add that bit
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about your father, Spurius?
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-What do you think
it should be bigger?
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I might get him to draw--
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[close rumbling and tremors]
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[Lucius] I'm sorry.
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[Julia] Yes, I’m fine.
Yes, I’m fine.
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00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,320
[Amalthea] You need to
watch where you're going.
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You could hurt someone.
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00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,600
-It's okay.
He said he was sorry.
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00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,120
Hey, what's wrong?
Is everything all right?
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[Lucius] Yeah. Thank you.
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[Julia] Go on then.
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May the goddess
protect and guide you.
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00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,280
[Lucius] Thank you.
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[Tom] Okay, time is
really running out now.
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The tremors, the
warning signs, they're,
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they're getting worse and worse.
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Caitie, now, we've established
that Julia is super smart,
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so when does she evacuate?
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-Well, here we are,
bumping up against the limits
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of the archaeological record.
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We just don't know.
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Archaeology can't get us
inside people's heads.
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Sorry, Tom.
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[Tom scoffs]
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I don't know.
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I somehow thought
the archaeologists and
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the historians would
have all the answers.
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00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,320
[Tom scoffs]
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Of course they don't.
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I mean, how can they see
into the minds of people
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who lived 2,000 years ago?
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If I'm going to try and
tell the stories of Avianius
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and Julia Felix,
I have to change my approach.
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I have to change my perspective.
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There has to be another way.
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Is there another way of
looking at all this evidence?
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Is there another way
of seeing the past?
501
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:24,840
Is there another way of
trying to understand,
502
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,320
at the deepest level,
their experience that day?
503
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,280
When I was at university,
504
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,640
we were taught that
the Latin words for story and
505
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,560
history were the same.
506
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040
The Romans called it historia.
507
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,240
That means evidence and
imagination intermingled,
508
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,000
they're the same thing.
509
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,720
That's what I have to do.
510
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,680
I have to go further still.
511
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,520
Draw in evidence from
disciplines beyond history,
512
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,000
different ways to uncover what
happened to Avianius and Julia.
513
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,120
So I'm gonna start over.
514
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,200
And then I lay it all
out in pursuit of Julia
515
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,680
and Avianius' story.
516
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,720
Their own historia.
517
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,200
That's what I need to do.
518
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,360
I do actually need
to find a way of seeing
519
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,040
inside their minds.
520
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280
So, you're a psychologist?
521
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,120
-Yeah, I'm not just
a psychologist,
522
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,000
I'm a disaster psychologist.
523
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,280
[Tom] So this is someone
from a different discipline.
524
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,400
Disaster psychologist
Doctor Sarita Robinson.
525
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,120
-Great.
526
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,120
So, Sarita, how does
disaster psychology differ
527
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,680
from traditional psychology?
528
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,520
-So in disaster psychology,
529
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,360
what I'm looking at is
people under extreme stress,
530
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,800
like a, a natural disaster.
531
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240
-Mm-hmm.
-I'm looking at how people
532
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,360
respond, the choices
they make, and why,
533
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,680
because people are
really predictable,
534
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,560
and if we can work out how
people are going to behave...
535
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,520
-Mm-hmm.
536
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,000
-...then we can better
train our first responders.
537
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,320
And if we can do that, then
we can ultimately save lives.
538
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,560
-So, from all
of your studies,
539
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,120
can we apply these predictions
to people from the past,
540
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,200
do you think?
541
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,840
-Yeah, I don't think
people have changed very much
542
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,040
in 2,000 years.
543
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,800
-Great, I was really hoping
you were going to say that.
544
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,760
I want to tell you
about these two Romans that
545
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,360
I've been following.
546
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,240
The first is a woman,
her name is Julia Felix.
547
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,520
She's wealthy.
She's intelligent.
548
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,320
She's the leader
of her household.
549
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,800
The second is a
boy called Avianius,
550
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,360
and he's a teenager.
551
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,080
He's a little
bit headstrong, maybe.
552
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,440
[Claudia] Avi, think about
what your grandfather did.
553
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,600
He built half the roads
in this city, remember.
554
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,760
[alarm]
555
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,840
[Tom] Here's a thing,
556
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,800
they're both
running out of time.
557
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,800
Surely, predictably, both of
them recognize that something
558
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,720
is seriously wrong,
559
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,200
and they get out of
there as fast as they can,
560
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,520
as soon as they can?
561
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,720
-Well, shall we find out?
-What do you mean?
562
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,000
Sarita?
563
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,640
[fire alarm blares]
564
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,320
Sarita, you can't,
565
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,760
Sarita you can't just
turn a fire alarm on.
566
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,320
You actually can't do that.
567
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,400
-Yeah but, but look.
-What do you mean, look?
568
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,760
-No.
569
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,520
[Tom] There's nothing happening.
570
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,120
[Sarita] Exactly.
571
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,040
This is a classic
example of alarm fatigue.
572
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160
People have learned
that there's no danger,
573
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,680
so they don't respond.
574
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,240
In the studies
I've run in my lab,
575
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,520
we see this behavior
all the time.
576
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,720
-Right, so what
you're saying is,
577
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,360
when these earthquakes
start happening in Pompeii,
578
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,480
they ignore it in the same way
that we ignore a fire alarm?
579
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,520
[Sarita] Yeah, exactly.
580
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,720
[fire alarm]
581
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,320
[distant rumbling]
582
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,200
Now think about it,
the people of Pompeii,
583
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200
they live next door
to an active volcano,
584
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,160
so earthquakes will
be quite common,
585
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,520
just as they are in
modern Italy today.
586
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,080
People are used to
living with them,
587
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,520
they're likely to have learnt
to just ignore tremors,
588
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,000
just like we ignore fire alarms.
589
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,400
[Tom] But isn't it
slightly different, though,
590
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,520
because the earthquakes they're
getting increasingly worse.
591
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,680
So would you ignore that?
592
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,560
[Sarita] Hmm, I don't think
you can underestimate the human
593
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,560
capacity for inaction,
and actually,
594
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,440
I think there is something
else that's stopping the
595
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,760
people of Pompeii
from evacuating.
596
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,640
[Tom] After you.
597
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,040
[Sarita] Thank you.
598
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,320
Mm.
599
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,440
[Tom] Mm.
600
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,800
[Sarita] So why did
you just turn around?
601
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,160
[Tom] Oh I, I turned
around because you did.
602
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,600
I didn't want to feel
awkward, you know.
603
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,760
[Sarita] Yeah.
604
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,480
So what you demonstrated
so beautifully is something
605
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,360
called social conformity.
606
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,520
We don't want to
embarrass ourselves by
607
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,440
doing something different.
608
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,080
So in the context
of a disaster,
609
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,720
actually social
conformity can mean that people
610
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,360
delay their evacuation.
611
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,520
[Tom] I see.
612
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,400
[Sarita] Or they might
not even act at all.
613
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,360
I mean, social conformity kills.
614
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,320
-Yeah, I see that.
615
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,760
So, in fact,
616
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,480
because of social conformity,
Avianius and Julia,
617
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,040
in fact, the whole town,
618
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,280
they'd just get
on with their day,
619
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,640
and they have no
idea what's coming.
620
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,800
[Julia] Friends, please
remember this is my house.
621
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,320
A house of the goddess Isis.
622
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,640
[Tom] Sarita’s right,
they're all still there,
623
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,680
beneath the volcano.
624
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,200
Getting on with their day.
625
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,680
Ignoring the signs with
a bomb about to go off.
626
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,320
[Julia] You are safe here.
627
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,600
We will give thanks to Isis,
with offerings,
628
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,800
and she'll protect us.
629
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,240
[Cassius] Dates and honey.
630
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,480
Turtledove or a piglet,
that's a proper offering.
631
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,280
This is just pathetic.
632
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,040
[Amalthea] Any offerings,
Cassius?
633
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,080
[Cassius] Thank you so much.
Thank you.
634
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,000
[Aurelia] Marcus.
635
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,440
Remember, he's still a kid.
636
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,320
[Julia] Isis the creator...
637
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,160
[♪ intense music playing]
638
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,360
[Marcus] Hi.
I'm glad you came back.
639
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,360
[Lucius] Hi. I shouldn't have
said what I did.
640
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,000
[Marcus] Well, it's alright.
641
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,000
It wasn't my finest
moment either.
642
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,000
[Lucius] I'm sorry.
643
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,640
[Marcus] You’re alright, kid.
644
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,320
[Lucius] You could
say sorry, too.
645
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,440
[Marcus] Alright, alright.
646
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,400
[Aurelia] You could, you know.
647
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,240
[watch alarm beeping]
648
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,200
-That's it.
You’re out of time.
649
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:11,280
[watch alarm beeping]
650
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520
[wind]
651
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,560
-Marcus?
-Run!
652
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,040
[explosion]
653
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,360
[high frequency ringing]
654
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,720
[muffled coughs]
655
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640
[Marcus] Avianius?
You okay?
656
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,120
[Julia] Amalthea.
657
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,400
[Amalthea] Julia.
658
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,120
[Julia] Are you okay?
659
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,000
Amalthea, look at me,
look at me.
660
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,200
Are you okay?
661
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,360
-I’m okay.
-Okay.
662
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Okay. We need to focus.
663
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Get them inside now!
664
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,440
Inside everyone.
Inside now!
665
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,800
[Amalthea] Come with me!
Come now, please!
666
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,040
[horses neighing]
667
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,800
[overlapping screams]
668
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,000
[screaming]
669
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,440
[eruption bellows]
670
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,320
[Tom] So this is it,
this is the moment.
671
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,680
Avianius isn't gonna
ignore this, right?
672
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,440
He's gonna evacuate immediately,
get to safety.
673
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,760
[Sarita] Well, maybe.
674
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,440
-What! Maybe?
675
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,360
Sarita, Vesuvius, that
volcano has just erupted,
676
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,920
and you're saying maybe.
677
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Surely now is the time
that everybody evacuates,
678
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,360
Avianius gets out of there,
and he's not even in the city.
679
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,000
[Aurelia] Avi.
Please, come with us.
680
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,000
It's not safe.
681
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,800
-He'd get to safety
as soon as he can.
682
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,760
-Maybe.
683
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,680
-What do you mean, maybe?
684
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,080
-Well, what would you do?
-I’d get out of there, 100%.
685
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,760
[Sarita] Are you 100% sure?
686
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,440
-I'm absolutely sure, yeah.
-But what about your family?
687
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600
-I, I can't. My mom.
688
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,760
[Sarita] We know
in emergencies,
689
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,760
people don't leave because
they want to be reunited with
690
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,320
the people they love.
691
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,680
They want to make
sure that they're safe.
692
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,280
-I, I've got to get to her.
I'm sorry.
693
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,000
-Avi.
-I, I can't. Just can’t.
694
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,480
[Tom] Family!
695
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Of course,
that's who you go to,
696
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,120
that's who I'd go to.
697
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,280
[Marcus] It’s okay, Aurelia.
698
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,080
Go, quick.
699
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,200
You find her and find us.
700
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,400
Go!
701
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,800
[Tom] Avianius goes back in.
702
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,280
[scoffs]
703
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,040
Of course he does.
704
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,600
He goes back into
Pompeii to get his mom.
705
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,400
[♪ dramatic music playing]
706
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,600
The final day has begun.
707
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,520
Clock's ticking.
708
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,440
Pompeii is almost out of time.
709
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,600
[ticking clock]
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