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Reverend young on beauty today can you

think just think about the men whom you

are going to encounter in an hour from

now less than an hour from now I really

am going there without any expectations

I'm going there to experience what God

has prepared for me for him for all of

those involved and I don't preconceive

anything not today I will let that

happen as it occurs as time gets there

we have a loving caring forgiving

merciful God and in time of joy and in

time of need and time of trial or

tribulation God is always there for us I

want to make that presence to them and

technically when he's led to the gurney

but is your duty then after everything

is completed as far as the preparation

then I walk over and I stand as he has

allowed me to stand I always ask

permission to be able to stand at his

feet and hold his ankle and I moved

toward that position and I placed my

hand on his ankle and then that's what

what I do until death occurs and if

there's no family

interested in taking care of the body

the condemned men would end up right

behind you

yes they end up here at the State

Cemetery and they're buried by the state

no names on the crosses only numbers

why does God allow capital punishment I

don't know the answer

I believe that there's always a purpose

why God allows things to happen God has

created so many things in this world I

play golf sometimes I love to be on the

golf course

because one thing I do I put my phone on

a silent mode I go out there sometimes

by myself with no distractions and I can

see the beautiful grass I can see the

squirrels from time to time running

sometimes the deer running sometimes I

look across the golf course and I see a

cow or a horse and and I and I stop and

I acknowledge life life the things that

God is created please describe an

encounter with a squirrel an encounter

with a squirrel I was driving the golf

court and I was on the guy on the cart

path and I saw two squirrels they were

chasing each other and as I was getting

closer they were running across the cart

path and I put on my brakes and they

stopped in the middle of the cart path

and looked at me and I said how about

this if I wouldn't have stopped I could

have run over one of these squirrels

there life would have ended and they

reminds me

the many people that I had been with and

their last breath of life and due to bad

choices and mistakes are in their life

their life is taken away in the moment

so life is precious whether it's a

squirrel or a human being

so I will sometimes meditate on that

experience make a little noise and the

squirrels will take off and continue

their life but I cannot do that for

someone on the gurney I cannot stop the

process for them

but I wish I could

you're not Wyeth yet shall we have to

wire you first

Maggie Perry now from all of us the

whole team here we would like to offer

our condolences your father passed away

on the 10th

my dad died 13 days ago 13 days in Japan

but you really died you are you are

scheduled to executions only eight days

yes sir

how are you doing you know you know I'm

a Christian so you know I believe that

no paradise awaits one way or the other

so I tell people all the time I'm either

going home or home so I'm either going

home to the world our home to God so I

you know as the days get closer I can

feel the pressure on my shoulders they

call it clinical depression where I just

start having less motivation to do

things less energy you get frustrated at

the system how can they not see you know

my situation is wrong you know I used to

write all the time and have a lot of

energy and I just don't have it anymore

I just feel like I've been beaten down I

have the feeling that destiny in a way

has dealt you a very bad deck of cards

it does not exonerate you and and when I

talk to you it does not necessarily mean

that I have to like you but I respect

you and you're a human being and I think

human beings should not be executed as

simply as that right

lieutenant this looks idyllic and safe

well and you would think that this is a

gated community obviously the houses

that are out here very large houses very

expensive houses and you would think

that this is this is a very quiet area

and you would I guess associate that

with security but this house right here

is actually the house where Sandra

Stotler was murdered this is where

Michael Perry and Jason Burkett parked

out in the street and went in and

murdered her at the time that we found

her she was actually baking cookies and

there was evidence of that there was

there was cookies out there was cookie

dough out so she was in the process of

that when she was killed

but apparently the first plan was not

murder well and that was something that

we were told that initially the the boys

were all when I say boys

Michael Perry Jason Burkett Adam Stotler

and Jeremy Richardson they were

acquaintances through you know some

mutual friends they weren't really

friends themselves but they they were

acquaintances and what we were told was

is that they came here with the

intention of trying to get Adam Stotler

to allow them to stay the night my

telling them they didn't have a place to

stay and they were going to try to get

the keys to the car and steal it that's

what they were after was the red Camaro

that was in the garage upon going to the

door and talking to the mother and she

said that they were out the boys were

out and so they left and that's when

their plan changed that they were just

going to kill her and take the car so

they went back up to the door and the

garage was open and the door going into

the house was open the Michael Perry by

his own admission entered that garage

door and went into the laundry room at

the time that Jason Burkett knocked on

the front door and as their truck was

out here and told him that the truck

wouldn't start and they needed to call

someone to come and assist them so she

let him in the house to use the

telephone and while he was doing that

Michael Perry stepped out of the laundry

room and knocked on the back garage door

which made her come and answer it and he

stepped out from the laundry

from behind her and that's when he shot

her

the actual garage door itself is open

when our deputies arrived on the scene

the master bedroom which is in the back

part of the house behind the garage over

here they went in and they took the top

bedding in the blanket in the top sheet

and that's what they wrapped her in they

brought her out put her in the truck and

they drove her out to crater lake to

disposed of her body and told us it's

happening to seek drugs you know I don't

know that there was ever any direct

evidence as far as you know drugs

relating particularly to this case I

mean honestly it was just you know they

had a car you know this lady owned a car

that they wanted so you know it was

unfortunately people died for a theft

other than it being dark this is pretty

much the way it was that night when we

came out here

you'll see all kinds of debris and trash

here as I said this is a was pretty

commonly used for a dumping ground

they've pulled lots of vehicles out of

Crater Lake we've had actually a few

other bodies that we that we've gotten

out of Crater Lake

this is crater lake here this little

area right here this is where the tire

treads and then in the dirt was actually

here at the time that they first came

down here they actually backed up to

that and tried to slam on their brakes

hoping to eject the body in the water

and that didn't work so again that was

just something that we heard I don't

know that that's actually what happened

but you could tell from there wasn't any

distinct tire wear in the ground you

could just tell that tires have been

spinning there so so it seemed to fit

the story but they ended up getting the

body and and carrying it out here and it

was just dropped in the water

we didn't know when we processed the

scene here and when we process the

thunder stalkers residents we still did

not know that we had any other victims

other than her this is the gated

community of Highland Ranch inside those

gates is the house where Sandra Stotler

was murdered when Michael Perry and

Jason Burkett came back here to get the

Camaro that they were after these gates

were shut and locked so they didn't have

access to it so they waited around and

parked until Adam Stotler and Jeremy

Richardson returned home and that's when

they got them to come out in the woods

with them and and murdered them so that

they could get basically the clicker to

come back and get access and you know

into this gate so they go back to the

house and take the Camaro so only

because they didn't have the code here

and it was closed at night two more

young people had to die yes sir that's

correct

lieutenant Jason Burkett and Mikey Perry

and bragged about what they had done

how clear evidence was that well because

it came from multiple people it wasn't

just one we got reports from several

people from the different hangouts that

they had said that they had killed

people that's how they got the vehicles

it was pretty convincing I mean we

believed it although again we we didn't

have evidence that we had of the bodies

of the time only after Perry confessed

he pointed you to the location of the

two young boys yes sir

as soon as I found out my mother her

body had been found that whole week is

just a blur

I was watching the news it was Monday

morning and I saw helicopters flying

over Ronny's truck stop here well we

live a mile and I had a glimmer of hope

I said Adam got away he's found his way

home because that's things that you'd

get off to come to my house so I told my

husband I said get in the car we're

going down there because they showed the

crime seeing the helicopters there my

brother's car was there on the news so

we went up to Ronnies truck stop and I

saw all that stuff on the car and I'm

like oh that's not out of his car he

doesn't have all this stuff on their

stuff meaning these stickers good and oh

yeah I see yeah I saw that I was like oh

that's not his car

and then I looked at the license plate

the car was riddled with bullets and

they had just chased them down and

caught him at the apartment complex and

I was kind of trailing behind them and

they left to go to the hospital they

told me I was like please tell me

because Adam had been missing now since

Wednesday and it was now Monday and I

said please tell me was Adam with them

they said Adam got shot and they took

him to the hospital now Michael Perry is

still saying he's out of them he got out

of jail he bonded out of jail

Perry just had his ID you believed your

brother was safe only wounded because

you were told Adam was safe in shock but

in hospital and you know I was like

thank God thank God so I started calling

the hospitals trying to figure out which

hospital he was at and I described him

and she's like I finally got a nurse who

would talked to me and she's like that's

not the kid that's here at ma'am

but your head helps I mean substantial

helps if your brother Adam was wounded

but safe alive into all of a sudden my

world was ripped out of him underneath

me everyone was gone

I called lieutenant Davidson and he told

me to come down the police station

and I told him I'm watching you on TV

right now just tell me if that's Adam

and he said I really would like you to

come down to the station and I said just

tell me and he said yeah it's Adam he

said it's Adam and my knees gave out and

I never knew that your knees really went

weak you know but that saying is true

weak in the knees my knees went weak and

I fell to the floor

this is Lindsay lane this is where we

were directed on this road by Michael

Perry in his confession that we would

find two additional bodies of Adam

Stotler and Jeremy Richardson well we

came down this road and that we split up

we went to the end of the road and we

actually walked back this way and

discovered Adams body

they lured him into this area by telling

them that there was a mutual friend of

theirs that had gotten hurt while they

were hunting this house obviously was

not here at the time you can see as this

is coming out how it's coming around so

it's gonna be somewhere about somewhere

in that concrete is gonna be about where

his body was discovered

once we actually process the scene and

we move the body once we move the body

there was a cigarette butt under it

which we collected and there was also

another cigarette butt closeby but the

one that was under his body once we

submitted it to the state lab for DNA it

had Micra Perry's DNA on it

which means the body had pulled and had

fallen on the cigarette after it was

already discarded on the ground the

other body was Jeremy Richardson and

from where we actually found his body it

was so dense with trees we couldn't even

get into it I don't know how he got into

it we couldn't hardly even get into it

without taking machetes and cutting back

some of the brush Jeremy he ran for some

distance while he was being shot at I

don't know if it was because he heard

the gunshots here and got startled or

Jason pointed the shotgun at him and he

realized it before he was actually shot

and he took off running

Charles you lost your brother Jeremy do

you remember the moment when you heard

about it I was in Georgia and I got a

phone call from my hand saying for me to

call home something bad had happened I

tried to call I didn't have no money at

the time my phone wouldn't let me call

long distance so I tried to call collect

my grandpa hung up on me he didn't want

to he didn t want to pay two dollars to

talk to me to tell me my brother was

dead I had to actually give my aunt to

call and find out what was going on and

then she called me back and my first

thought was cuz on the phone she says do

you know Jason Burkett I said yeah she

said well something's happened and your

brother's dead and

well my first thought was you know Jason

was just driving being stupid the way

you normally was and had raked and then

she told me know that Jason shot my

brother over a car I just felt up I felt

up my uncle came and picked me up and uh

we just meant riding her out

did your father he was in prison no

serious well it was the first time he

was in jail for murder in prison for

murder

life sentence well no he he was doing

his 15-year sentence first and then he

was out for about a year and then he

went and got a life sentence and he's

just getting up after that and you flew

in for the funeral yeah I flew in from

the funeral the cop said uh I jump bond

and the cops were there to take me to

jail

over my brother's can I tell him what it

was for I mean would it be okay to tell

him the you know it was a drug

possession so you took the trade time

for your brother if you were arrested at

the funeral cops came in there there's

six cops came in and identified me and

told me they were gonna take me to jail

right then I asked him you know at least

stay for my brother's chainable and the

teardrops to choose what do they see

buffet

I lost my my brother-in-law sister

brother learned of your sister happy to

her she was coming to my house and she

crossed the freeway and she got ran over

of our car tell me about your brother

Jeremy

Jeremy was

he was just a golden chop he was a good

kid I trusted his friends

he would get in trouble just just to to

have that attention but he wouldn't do

nothing serious he would never do

anything too serious he got in trouble

for making people laugh you know talking

during class you know stuff like that he

was a very sociable person everybody

loved him and everybody said that I was

one that was supposed to be dead before

I was 21 and not jamming would you love

to of course

he was lovely he was my best friend he

was my best friend bro he's all I had

you took care of him

a child

it turns out the only thing I did was

hurting I introduced them to the people

to kill them

he tell me all the time is meeting him

against the world I tell my wife the

same thing no it's just me and him

against the world

I believe from the time that we got the

initial call until they were caught it

was within a week it was I believed five

to seven days and you arrived at the

scene where they were apprehended yes

sir

can you describe some a hidden yes sir

it was

there was a truck stop actually the

truck stops not there anymore but it was

a kind of the side parking lot of a

truck stop and there was an abandoned

warehouse and then on the other side of

that an apartment complex so the entire

scene spanned from that parking lot all

the way well into the apartment complex

there was shotgun shells there was

cartridge casings where they had

exchanged fire with the officers that

were there it was wrecked vehicles and I

mean there was just people everywhere

and the police officer was run over yes

for his leg

there was a vehicle wrecked out and all

the glass in the vehicle it shattered

from the gunshots Burkett and period

both sustained gunshot wounds belief

Jason Burkett was shot three times if

I'm not mistaken and I'm not really

certain about Michael Perry but that

they both had wounds from gunshots and

obviously glass cuts and scrapes

so there was a wild hot pursuit and you

were in this wild chase did you actually

open fire at them or what had happened I

don't want to be too indiscreet but I

think what I can tell you I pled guilty

I've got 10 years done on a 15 year

sentence for it let's see

we were sleep we had been drinking the

night before we were sleeping in the car

because we couldn't get to the motel

which was on the other side of a fence I

don't remember this other guy that was

in the car with us I don't know how he

got with us I don't know his name I

don't know anything about him Michael

Perry and me were drinking and somehow

this guy got with us that night

I remember getting woke up and getting

shot in the car I looked around Michael

Perry wasn't next to me with some other

kid next to me but Perry was in the

backseat and Perry tried to get out of

the car

in the back and then he shut the door I

started the truck and I went to flee and

everybody says you shouldn't have ran

you shouldn't have ran I had just been

shot and the only way for me not to get

shot again was to get out of there and I

wasn't thinking clearly I didn't know

about a murder I didn't know about what

they were looking I didn't know the

extent I didn't know they knew who I was

and when I drove off the officer was

right in front of me I drove to the

right and he shot me through the door

right here in my arm

how badly were you wounded I was shot

right here

can you show it tie in for me I was shot

right here in my wrist I was shot right

here in my hand

my finger I was shot right here I was

shot right here and I was shot right

here

right here I had a piece of the car door

in my side Stan launched in your sight

so how do you get through a metal

detector well it came out afterwards it

came out they come out of

right here in my collarbone I had a

piece of the glass or the car door went

inside I crashed into a building because

I couldn't steer my Bloods all in the

truck they said well your DNA is on the

gun my DNA is on everything in there

I was shot my DNA was on Michael Perry

DNA was on every seat in there from

being shot blood went everywhere

whenever I crashed I jumped out and ran

I ran I ran in the building there was

cops shooting at the building where we

were crashed into they were shooting

from every direction the window in the

back of the buildings like this you

can't get through it I shot one time

with the gun through the window I

probably shouldn't have done that but I

was trapped and I was panic and I didn't

know what to do and when we got through

there we ran to some apartments

you know I carry Perry Hathaway but I

mean we got to the apartment you dealt

with it like real tough men

I remember reading somewhere that

Michael Perry shouted this is it put the

balls at the walls or something let's

both let's fight back

so I remember something I don't recall

him saying it he could have said it too

much commotion too many bullets flying I

didn't really understand what was

happening all I knew is where we were at

we could not stay there yeah and he was

screaming balls to the walls

they say well how can I say I don't want

to go into the details of of what

happened but faculty said three people

were killed

mm-hmm and you deny that you were even

close to the scene or how do you there's

no longer a question there's no longer a

question of my innocence that's question

is out the door the question is what is

anyone gonna do about it now I mean a

perfect example is you're here with

these guys they show up at your hotel

room in a car you're gonna assume that

that car is you know these are your

friends so when Jason shows up to pick

me up in a car I'm gonna assume it's

okay you get it you get arrested you

come to find out he just murdered

someone from that car you're gonna end

up on Texas death row you're gonna end

up right here because you trusted one of

these guys to show up and pick you open

up in a real car it wasn't just stolen

but trusting in trays and was a bad

choice anyway let's let's face it he was

well you know some sort of a bad epilim

so so were you I was homeless starving

so and using drugs and stealing yummy

drugs he offered me a place to stay he

offered me food so I chose I chose that

which I shouldn't have I regret it every

every minute now cherish every minute uh

cherish every minute make the most of it

because uh you know they can they can

they can do you like me being the wrong

situation at the wrong time there's no

telling where you end up you might want

to get out of Texas as soon as possible

uh they might arrest you any any second

huh

I went over to my buddy's house there

was a guy that anyone to fight me and uh

he run upon me as I got out of the truck

and uh I just kind of blew him off you

know me just go man go much business and

everybody said he even saying he was

gonna stab me when I got out of the

truck you know it kind of pissed me off

so I went back found two dude and uh run

upon him and I was taking off my shirt

and I threw him up threw my shirt up

like that you know and throw it up over

my elbow I was gonna take it off and

when I did that he hit me right here

with a screwdriver and screw drive about

that long and it was the Philips you

know a little skinny long screwdrivers

and uh something to the handle and after

that uh all the way to pay him I'll

weigh the handles minutes probably prior

right in there I went straight straight

through under my arm into my chest you

know I know went to the hospital or

anything what did you feel you felt yeah

just uh I felt up though you know the

pressure of it when they hit that's all

I felt I kind of jumped back out the way

you know I looked and my buddy threw me

a knife and I looked down at the knife

on the ground I was like you know I'm

thinking to myself my head you know I'm

going to my kids today you know so I

didn't even pick it up and then my other

buddy come out running out of the yard

and I had to be at work in 30 minutes

matter of fact of our roof I was roofing

the house with Jason's brother uh what

is it Chris perk it when I was roofing

the house with a little Christmas not in

jail at that time now India went to

hospital no

the Navy was asking me if I need to go

to the hospital or anything but it just

some white pus and a little bit of blood

come out and you know I thought I was

good everything I guess I am so I was

lucky there

but you have never been in in real

trouble with the law matter felony

that's the only bad bad one hand but

you're a working man

yes sir short yeah I ain't been in

trouble for years

can I see your hands yeah maybe shook

hands I noticed your calluses you're

working yeah in a paid job yep cars yes

sir

solid work yes sir in the tattoo in here

can't believe you had been with her when

you met Burkett nah not yet I've been

with her for three years and I got a 17

month old baby whatever yeah they're

staying with her yeah now the tattoo is

forever

the hairs forever and he's talked about

but what happens if the relationship

unravels what happens to Bailey get

somewhere had to get Bailey sucks right

there

can you talk about Jason Burkett how did

you meet him how did you know him what

do you know about him first time I've

ever met him long seem like pretty cool

guy you know so we hung out you know I

introduced him to a few girls and

everything and then we used to go

hunting together one time he tried to

kill me I introduced him to these girls

and her dad knew had something going on

I don't know

well anyway he thought I wanted to get

with that girl and come over to another

girl's house and rushed me with a gun

well I had this girl tell me to come

outside and I was eating supper and

rushed me with a guy so we fought for

about 45 minutes we're going to my head

in this girl's house I was a 22 caliber

single-shot pistol

yeah held del to my head banging me in

the head with it we were fighting off to

the house with the gun gotta lock myself

in his bedroom and he was gonna kick in

the door so I just opened the door and

let him in cuz imma tear this girl's

dad's household you know out today and

we started fighting again and he pinned

me on the bed and we pulled the trigger

well if the politico now I missed fire

because the bullet come out the gun and

you could tell or 22 bullet II was like

it's just that round flat piece on the

bottom

it was the firing pin ain't long enough

it don't hit it and it don't move off

but uh it hit it but I don't know why

didn't go off you've been lucky yeah

very lucky yeah I kind of blacked out

there

yeah real lucky and then I'm killing

those people when I feel sorry for their

families

me and my friend big Justin was up at

the bar one time and he come up to these

new cars hillman Perry you know we're

like man we're juggling these new cars

that it's like all we was holding hands

him when Perry was hold hands and

scratched off a lottery ticket together

and a one-nil took ours

well me and my buddy knew it wasn't

right because they both felons you know

I mean ain't nobody gonna sell him ain't

he's won got a driver's license so you

know and and the cars were like fully

loaded CDs K boards and stuff like that

in there you know so we knew something

or something was up with it and he

started giving people joy rise up at the

bar

Jason and Michael came up to the bar to

show off two new vehicles that they had

purchased and at first we nobody really

understood they explained that they had

purchased a lottery ticket and that's

how they got the money to buy the cars

and at that time it started getting a

little weird

what didn't sound right about this the

amount of the lottery ticket was four

thousand dollars they said they cashed

it in the gas station that doesn't

usually happen the vehicles themselves

didn't look like they just came off a

car lot

you drove these cars I rode in them I

didn't drive them

yeah they Jason and Michael were kind of

given everybody test drives and I rode

in both vehicles the the red Camaro when

I wrote in it they were showing off guns

there was a 12-gauge shotgun and I don't

remember the other one but I did see

them in the trunk of the red Camaro that

night from what I heard rumors you know

they were initially planning on stealing

a car of my roommate at the house I was

staying at and that scared the hell out

of me

cuz that could have been me you know if

he would have decided to come and get

the car in my driveway where would I be

I've managed to block it I've managed to

try to not deal with it and not think

about it I guess being in the situations

that I've been in just from being

employed at that bar I have seen so many

awful things that I don't deal with them

I just kind of put them back Jason break

about crimes he never bragged to me and

my buddy big Justin we didn't know it

happened you know there was they come

got us from Justin's house to police

tear and it took us up there and it was

like y'all read the paper and I told him

look I couldn't read and then they

didn't believe me and they looked at my

record found out I can't read and then

so they read the paper to me and told me

what he had done

do you read now dire so late you started

to learn how to read ya learn Arief

wonderful yes I think this is great

achievement yeah it's awesome

yeah I'm much more connected now yeah

how does it feel not to be able to read

you have to be much smarter than the

others to understand the world anyway

yeah it's kind of tough out there when

you can't read but I mean cuz I know is

there some way I can read it for you but

uh I mean I learned how to read in jail

so I can write letters and read the

letters other than and I'm planning on

rolled back from where I learned I read

there and you have to encode now oh yeah

staying busy at the paint body shop

reading oh yeah writing not much writing

a lot of sanding I'm interested in your

relationship with Michael Perry how did

you two beat out assisting happening and

mm I had a girlfriend

mm she had a friend named Miranda I

ended up going to jail and Miranda I

seen her on the side of the road arguing

with Michael Perry and I said I pulled

over and I said what's going on and she

said he's living in my trunk and I can't

get him you know he can't live there no

more my dad's seen him my dad got in a

fight with him this morning he can't

live there so he was living in the trunk

of a car

and I said well I don't know what to

tell you if she asked me can he live

with you and at that moment I sort of

know he can't live with me and then I

looked at him and she's like sad crying

and she said please let him live with

you just for a month this was when we

were living in the camper trailer and I

told him you can live with this

get your stuff put it in my truck and

come home and from that day on I fed him

gave him money took care of him he was

like a like a little brother kid brother

that was pushed on him and when they

he's older than me by a few months but I

had to take care of him cuz he had

nothing he had nobody little did I know

he had very supportive family his mom

and dad were both supportive he just

didn't want to follow rules he was just

like me and didn't want to follow rules

and that's why he ended up living with

me because they said work and you can

live with us he didn't want to work and

us sent on the outward bound to trip

well you know I'm a city boy at heart

you know I'm saying I'm really not into

the nature and bugs and in the weather

and you know so you know when East they

sent me on a two-week canoe trip which

sounds wonderful for me but yeah you

know you know I like to canoe but what

was it wasn't the canoeing it was bad it

was it is an Everglades I mean we're

seeing alligators everywhere now my

question is and I didn't realize that

until I got here what happened if I

would have fell out and got eaten by an

alligator who would have been

responsible you know did my parents sign

some type of waiver because there's

alligators everywhere well a young man

of 13 you better watch out and eat and

handle the alligators you didn't we

would canoe until like nighttime and

pull in I guess they had certain

designations marked and sometimes we'd

pull in like at midnight there's bugs

you can reach out and grab a handful of

bugs and then they want us to cook

dinner and you know I'm like man I can't

and one of the things that the program

was to teach you immediate they you know

every action there's a there's a

reaction so immediate consequences to

your decisions and one of the things I

learned is that if I don't pay attention

to the lessons we had these bags for our

property and met a coelom right or there

wouldn't be waterproof well I didn't

listen and they fell in the water and

all my stuff got wet so I didn't have my

own team and toilet paper anymore and I

didn't like that so basically I was my

typical stubborn self and I told me you

know what I ain't doing this no more

take me home but he we're not attacked

by Ellie K yeah we were attacked by

monkeys No

absolutely monkeys were jumping from one

side to the trees on the other side we

were at and come trying to come over

there and they couldn't figure out where

the monkeys came from but there was a

whole bunch of them a whole bunch I want

to get out and get one but they said

they have diseases right

so best-case scenario if you are granted

parole in 2041 how old would you be then

does this ever occur to you do you want

to think about it be 59 60

I was 19 I have to do 40 years from 1950

when it came to the face after your

trial was over for punishment face your

father showed up in court can you

describe the scene I knew he was coming

and I knew what he was going to testify

to but to hear him justify it's like I

was born with neuroblastoma I had 18

surgeries about the time I was five and

I I don't know a lot about it because

it's something that I try to shy away

from I knew he was gonna testify to my

raising and I was a in pain all the time

and he watched me cried sleep and it was

difficult because I've seen him cry I

mean if you ever see my dad six foot six

six foot seven 300 pounds big old guy

they brought him in from from prison

came in from still incarcerated

he's right across the street on the

others unit mr. Burkett how are you

doing just fine how fine you are in here

for how many years 40 40 years eight

felony counts is that correct

yes that's pretty serious yes and you

spent some time before this for the

sentence in jail is that correct yes sir

yeah I've been in prison five times how

many years already two years there's a

five-year sentence a 30-year sentence

and in this 40 that's a lot yes sir

what went wrong drugs and alcohol can

you explain well

I started using drugs when I was about

13 drinking and drugging and Salomon

manufacturing some stealing and

burglarizing going along with it to

support the habit and always end up back

in prison

that's one insignificant moment when

chasing your son was found guilty for

capital murder

triple homicide during the sentencing

phase you appeared in court can you

describe what you said to the jury well

let explain to him what prison life was

about and explain explain to him that I

didn't think killing him was going to

bring back those people or really suck

you know do anything to correct what

happened and I asked the jury to you

know please you know don't kill my son

just please don't kill my son they never

had a chance he didn't have a father I

told him that you know he did I was

never there and his mother was a you

know single mother with four children

and and she had handicaps she's on

disability most of that time she was

living on disability and so they they

really didn't they lived off food stamps

and you know HUD housing and that type

of thing and he really he really had a

real poor life growing up I just asked

him not to kill my son it wasn't his

fault

I wished I could I wish that I could

take the time his time I wish I could

cause I feel like it's my fault

I really do I feel like it's

I'm as much as fault as he is because if

I'd have been there it quite possibly

maybe not but but it might possibly been

different he had a better chance you

know he'd had a whole lot better chance

if I'd have been there helping his

mother raised him but I wasn't the jury

got up to leave and the door was right

here to my right and as the door closed

behind them I heard two ladies break

down I'm I'm real emotional and I'm

crying through the whole thing but as

they went through that door in the door

closed I heard two ladies break down

crying they broke down and then when it

was all over and his lawyer come talk to

me he said I remember that his words he

said you got him you're safe too you go

I said what do you mean he said you got

that's where that's what safe there was

two votes it was ten to two and there

was two votes that voted not to kill him

and I think those were the two ladies

right there and they're the ones that

saved his life but you can be proud of

this moment

that's some help too god help me he did

I asked God to help me and I think he

did

I didn't deserve any help for him he may

not deserve the help but we got it from

someplace

the hardest part was to look at a friend

to look at me and I seen that he was

sincere that he really was sorry for no

what he had done throughout my childhood

and he had been in prison I don't blame

him for it but I've seen right there

that he understood that it did affect us

and I cried that one day that was it the

whole child even after conviction the

only thing that hurt me was my dad

whenever I went back and testified his

brother went back and testified to his

brother was in prison Chris and and and

we mean Chris what came back to the

Diagnostics together and then and I'm

embarrassed but all three it was we had

Thanksgiving together correct me and

Chris and Jason over at the Diagnostics

unit you know you know they they think

that's kind of cool but I as a father I

thought that was pretty embarrassing to

be sitting there in prison with my son's

older if they mean cos they're a did yes

sir

did me and Jason went on over to the

next place together handcuffed together

in the bus and that's something that

I've never in my life would ever dreamed

dreamed of that would have happened that

that same little baby that was you you

have to hold him down and take bone

marrow test out of the same little six

pound baby described feeling to me when

you're handcuffed together with your own

son in the same bus scene can you

describe that no not really

try to describe us

well I don't know I just felt like a

total failure

total failure there's a father and you

could feel his head cooked in this head

and his right hand and we were sitting

there and you know I was just it was

just total failure that's what I felt

like I felt like crap you know and I

used a different word to the jury and

that's me and that's what I meant you

know he had trash for a father and and

then here I was sitting with with my

baby son on a prison bus and I mean I

don't think it I don't think it gets

much lower than that you know you just

don't

knowing me or him neither one will ever

you know get out again I just got a

3-year set off again about a week ago so

when they're near him I'll never get out

again and to me he ever kept out again I

don't think so

he comes up for parole the first time in

in 1942 the first 40 years after his

conviction yes sir 1941 I'm sorry yes

20:41 your century back I'm sorry

well doesn't matter it's time myself

time is probably different for you in

here yes

this is actually the vehicle that was in

Sandra Stotler garage this was the

vehicle that Michael Perry and Jason

Burkett was was after three people died

for this car a car that was in their

possession for less than 72 hours I

believe within a couple of years I mean

this vehicle was just trashed the inside

of it because there was actually a tree

that it rooted and had come up through

the center of it and it tore the

floorboard up and whenever we actually

had to move it the over to this lot it

was a little bit difficult because of

that a tree grew inside the tree grew up

from the bottom up into Sun and up into

the car

why did they die I asked myself that

question every day I mean for a vehicle

you know I I don't know I don't know

people die everyday over giving people a

dirty look or you know $2.00 people

brought each other and I don't know I

don't know why they died the greed of

these two boys I don't know I don't I

don't have an answer can you speak about

a family of victims nobody seems to

address that side and I don't how do you

live with all this I didn't for a while

I'm starting to live again but basically

I just shut down Montgomery County has a

victims assistance program but when you

when your whole family is ripped from

you you you know you're kind of like

what's the point what's the point of

living anymore I don't have a family to

share it with and I know I have to live

it for my children to raise my children

I don't want them to have a miserable

life or have a depressed mother all the

time but for about four years I didn't

go anywhere stay in the house take the

phone out of the home I don't like to

talk to people I've I figured if I don't

get close to anybody I don't know you

know I won't get hurt again I don't know

I just I just shut down really my

grandmother shut down our lives are

empty very empty very empty

that's Adam that was his fix yes he was

16 there was a last school picture

my mother my brother was my best friend

he was he was only 16 um

it is true that he is not my real

brother my sister whoops got pretty when

she was 16 and my parents adopted him

and they were actually out of town the

day he was born so I was the first one

to hold him and I just I had this

feeling his whole life that something

was gonna happen to him and I remember

calling my mother and saying you know

what's Adam doing where's Adam you need

to make sure y'all just moved up to Ohio

and make sure you're watching them and

my mom was like I've raised five

children I can take care of them and

when you get 16 I knew he was he was

good he was safe he was a man he'd be

able to take care of himself now he was

such a great kid

he was in love for the first time in his

life and one thing that sticks out for

me

my mom always protected me one thing

that I remember I was supposed to get

married well I did get married September

16th 1995 but my dad Mel he was a

preacher and he was supposed to marry me

and Kenneth he died six months before

the wedding he was hit by a train and my

older brother and aunt a family dog and

uh so we got I refused to get married in

a church so we got married on the boat

in Lake Conroe right as I was walking

out that I want to walking out the door

to go down the aisle my mother pinned my

dad's wedding ring inside my dress right

over my heart and she said I didn't want

your dad to miss this and you know that

just you loved her yes I know she was

saying so much pain that day but she hid

it because I was so happy she had her

pain for me you know she's she's made it

through the day

our family's just so incomplete so

incomplete you know sometimes my kids

will ask me things oh I wonder what my

mom you know there's things at all times

of day and night I want to call an ass

Kirk it took me forever to realize she

was really gone because I would want to

pick up the phone and call her and is

this why you got rid of her film yes I I

did not want another phone call telling

me it's somebody else am I feeling it

I can't even list phone calls anymore I

couldn't handle him anymore so I just

cut myself off from the world I can't I

can't have a phone I just don't like you

know firing anymore cuz all I never

brought me it was bad news the worst the

works is that yeah you had to face it

yeah

well you know it's just I mean not only

did I lose my mother and my father and

my brother to tragic circumstances I

mean my grandfather had a stroke my

uncle hung himself my other uncle had a

heroin overdose my step-brother shot

himself because he had pancreatic cancer

my real father died in his sleep all

this was in six years a six year period

I lost everyone in my family everybody

mr. Burkett if you'll close the eyes and

you think about a different life and it

could start all over how would you raise

the children well

it's hard to answer something that

you've never done and you know

embarrassing embarrassing to say that

but but I know when I was like I would

like to them have did what I had a

scholarship to the University of Texas

in 1973 in football and I quit school in

my senior year quit football and quit

school and lost then and and I wish I

could go back to right there yes go back

to right there and no you have the

children then I had the children and I

and I would have a hook I would have

done everything in my power to to help

them finish school like I did and I

always tell them don't be like me well I

wish I wish I would have been something

they could have been and I wish they

could have finished school I wish we

could have played baseball like I did

when I was little little in Little

League I wish that we could have played

baseball

two of them did for like one time I wish

we could have played baseball and I

wished I could've went to their football

games and I raised a steer in in school

for FFA I wish they could have did that

we lived in the country that's what I

wish we could go back all of us and go

to school school events I got to watch

one of my son's play the horn one time

in school and that's the stuff that I

remember that's the good stuff and this

all wouldn't have happened

you

I want to say this on the record I'm not

saying that my husband was a Boy Scout

I'm not saying that Jason Burkett did

absolutely had no knowledge and was like

selling cookies or raising money for

camp when that happened I'm saying that

Jason did not kill one two or three

people

Sandra Jeremy and Adam were not killed

by Jason and you asked your husband you

asked Jason point-blank can you tell me

what what happened because he wanted to

make sure what did you ask him

I've asked Jason multiple times to tell

me everything that I need to know I said

Jason Jason doesn't have a whole lot of

money so we do most of his stuff pro se

which is where we file it ourselves and

me and his father have pretty much done

his appeal and I've always asked him I

need to know everything you can tell me

don't you get home and that's basically

how we start our conversations and Jason

will recall things and it you know more

and more it's like been a snowball that

I picked up exactly what I think

happened yeah India told he was innocent

yes and you do believe him

I do believe him I like I said I believe

that Jason had involvement I don't

believe he killed three people

I wrote Jason for maybe two years before

I went to meet him because really I

could do most of the stuff through the

mail and one day I was talking to his

mother and she said something to the

effect of you'll never guess what Jason

said to me today and I said what and she

said he told me that he was in love with

you and I said that's crazy

and I remember to give it like the

priest story I was with my best friend

and when I hung up I said my best

friend's cat I was like cat Jason

Burkett's in love with me she goes

that's probably pretty good cuz you're

in love with him too and I said what are

you talking about having an idiot you

know

and she said dude when is the last time

you've been on a date when's lost and we

haven't spent a Saturday

night with Jason Burkett's court

paperwork I was like hey that smells

nice but I ended up driving I lived in

Nebraska time I ended up driving from

Omaha to Abilene because I wanted him to

tell me himself and he was out the

Robertson unit you were two days into

night strange yes I drove it it seemed

like unless - I drove a night I got

there and I remember I just asked him

like that was the first thing I said I

was like hot we've never seen each other

in our lives but hi your mom told me

that you're in love with me but I didn't

say it I wanted to be coy so I said your

mom told me you told her something and

visit I said what did you tell her and

he said I need stamps and I was like I

wouldn't be an Abilene cuz you need

stamps right what are you don't play

games with me and he goes oh that part

where I said I was in love with you and

then I dropped the phone cuz I was

nervous and I didn't know what to say

and I kind of fumbled through that whole

visit because I didn't immediately go I

love you too I wasn't you know like a

movie I was very nervous I'm not that

girl that falls in love with an inmate

and I was like okay I'm just gonna be

cool with it and then when I left the

day I met Jason there was a rainbow and

I'm not this is true it's in our letters

there was a rainbow that went from one

gate side of the gate to the other side

of the gate and I thought that was the

most miraculous sign that this is this

is the boy that I'm supposed to be with

him this is he isn't innocent because

how many times you see a whole rainbow

and when we saw a whole rainbow and my

friends with me he saw the rainbow - I

have a witness and when Jason when I got

home I had a letter waiting for me and I

said did you see the rainbow at the

gates of the prison he went from one

side my side on the outside to the

inside

I believe in me you know I know what I

know what happened back in 2001 I know

that I wasn't a part of it and I believe

strongly in in my faith in my attorneys

and in the outcome but at the same time

I don't even recognize these walls I

don't pay attention to this because if

you do you're gonna lose your mind

you're gonna you're gonna go you're

gonna you're gonna lose your mind I'm

recently another guy just killed himself

the other day and he left a note saying

that y'all have to live around all this

craziness and I'm gone and that's

because he was focusing on it but I

don't I don't focus on it

you know I just I just distract myself I

stay busy I work on my case I have a

great family a lot of supporters that

help me so um I have enough distractions

if I didn't have enough distraction I

might be in a different position at how

does time occur to you know in your

situation Wow and so that's a good thing

it really varies but you know because I

like I'll forget I'll literally forget

and then I'll look at my calendar I'll

hear someone say something about Hannah

and I'll sit back and I'll just stare at

the wall and I'll be like man say eight

days seven days six days or whatever and

it's like it's just I I must not be

comprehending the fact that it's that

close because you know it's hard for me

to say you know what I got talked to be

you know in the eight days these people

want to murder me and it's just

something that it's hard for me too hard

for me to believe that the state of

Texas wants to murder me in eight days

in West case in area you know exactly

what is going to happen on July 1st yeah

an execution you will be transported to

Huntsville right the walls in bits of

this house yes sir and you will be

checked by a medical examiner I don't

know no no medical people can be

involved I think they have to check you

that you are fit to be executed it's one

of them it might be it's one of these

absurdities if you're unconscious for

example you cannot be executed yeah if

you're stark mad yeah that is true if

you're bleeding from a gunshot wound

they would not

put you onto the gurney all right

they gotta treat me first and then kill

me yeah that's that's kind of crazy to

think about right yeah I just I just

can't allow myself to think like I can't

even picture myself laying on a gurney

but if it happens I'll have to deal with

it huh you know I have to deal with it

and I'll be able to watch over my mom

from heaven with a clear conscience and

be at peace you know like I said for a

long time my life has been unhappy so

finally I can find me some peace huh and

you're at peace with yourself now took a

long time yes absolutely did took a long

time to realize what a man was I was act

there acting like a child

act like a child when I got here at

first but uh I'm confident in Who I am

now Mac you parry

I wish you all the best yes thank you I

don't know what's gonna happen at we're

gonna see we're gonna find out I'll find

out on Monday

they knew what I was telling them no

true I mean I'm not gonna tell

you anything but I'm gonna tell you

everything snow hat back here

four o'clock guys gonna come in here and

they're gonna fingerprint you shortly

after that I was gonna lie to you to

take a shower and then we're gonna put

you in Free World clothes that you get

you dress in Free World clothes free

wore clothes would be too close you and

I would wear if I had six like whatever

your your request for the last meal

they'll bring it in

you know you'll sit there and eat your

last meal during that time if you need

anything else just ask you know need

some more geez Ponce or whatever else we

got back here just ask their own day

sometimes it has strange requests you

know within reason I'm gonna get it for

you requests or one one man I sure like

to smoke a doobie right now well that's

not gonna happen you know the guy with

the key he opens the door

it's Winston's adorable there's another

correction also behind him and another

behind me soon as he does he follows me

in then the other correction officers

followed right in behind them so to be

two in front of in front of they mate

and then the other three right behind

him

I tell him jump up on the gurney or so

then our automatic only a few steps from

this end if I would say no more than ten

steps at that much

I would immediately go rancid

occurrences I always took care of the

left leg so as soon as he laid down I

took their left leg the other person was

in front with me would take care of the

right the three didn't fell in behind

one would take care of the the right arm

I will take care of the left arm and the

other one would be there in case they

may once he legs down if he had a

response to tried to get back to up his

job was to hold to hold his shoulders

down you know you know what you're up

there you're up there you know within

that time us four people would have him

done probably within about 15 seconds

he'd be strapped down that couldn't cuz

we all knew exactly where straps were

what was possible that time to the

process we trained on it

so last time you're gonna see I'm gonna

see him where his eyes open because

after the execution is done and the

process went and then they told the

doctor in to pronounce him dead you

netted about at least my job begins

again because I have to go back in there

and that's that's awful

also kind of difficult because here you

sit with this individual eight to ten

hours all day long and now the last

thing you're doing is removing those

straps the stress had to be roof and put

them on another gurney for the funeral

home and then you thought he didn't

think about none of this why are you

doing this the procedure there are none

of this you don't keep you don't put

those emotions out there do you did you

did the job go home you did tell many

executions roughly they was over 125 120

somewhere over hundred twenty there was

a bunch was that to the point or

especially after I'd sometimes I

promoted to captain in 90 where we're

doing two a week that was getting

tiresome in what happened to you then I

back when they when they brought in

taller face I stayed back there with her

now definitely there was the first

female there we were fixes to execute

I remember one thing so vividly that it

was an hour before and I was standing

there in the chaplain Center and she

looked at me she knows Thank You captain

Allen for everything you've done

oh so you're welcome you know I saw like

he'll say and what else what else I'm

gonna say

you down another hour which we went

precision everything went just wave was

supposed to you know she was pronounced

dead and went back in there and I took

the girl took straps off put her you

know journey and this dog we locked

everything up and one of our business

and and everything was fine I had a

little shop in the back it was six

o'clock and the news come on over the

radio and started again and for some

reason just out of the blue I heard it

they triggered me seeing her hurt and I

start shaking oh what's wrong and then

it was it was it was a shake it was a

shake like I couldn't why am i shaking

it and then I was just see my I was

sweaty and in tears also and this this

is hurt I remembered her and it's two

days afterwards I remembered her

execution hers wasn't no different

anybody else but it was hers and then I

started actually visualizing the other

inmates as you asked me did you look at

in their eyes I wonder if I could see

them I could actually see him in the

holding cell again you know one right

after another and it seemed like it was

just my wife what's wrong with you and I

don't know and he talked somebody and

the first person I could think of was

Terrell Chaplin picking any time over

house and we said how old Swain and I

started coming down tonight what's wrong

and I told him and then I looked at

careless I can't do no more that's it

I'm done I can't I can't go back there

anymore

could it be that you thought that this

was not yourself but maybe it was a real

self

that moment has real possibility that's

really deep inside of just came out

that's a good very I mean that's coming

from that point on I mean I've had a

different outlook in life if executions

was the law then I was going to make

sure there was done professionally with

integrity after Karla and I was a pro

capital punishment after Karla Fame

after all this until this day eleven

years later no sir I don't nobody has

the right to tell you another life I

don't care if it's the law and it's so

easy to change the law

I don't want to sound like a evil person

but I'm so glad I went to the execution

I really am I thought with my with

myself about going I reserved this the

seat so I could be there but I'm glad I

went I'm really glad I went

it really did something to me yeah what

did he do I don't know I don't know what

I don't know what happened but I

immediately after the execution I felt

like a that's saying a huge weight had

been lifted I actually could take a deep

breath my heart didn't take as much

I remember walking in and thinking this

looks like a boy I hadn't built this

huge monster evil you know murdering

monster in my head and he he was just a

boy he was just a boy lighting all that

gurney

when I walked in he looked at me and he

looked away and he did a double-take

same thing Jason Burkett did in court I

look like my mom I look a lot like my

mother and what did you say he forgave

us he forgave us yeah and I was upset

when I walked in and I was crying

you know we're holding my whole family

we didn't want to see someone die you

know that no one should have to do go

through that but we were there for my

mother you know when my brother and we

were crying and when he said he forgave

us put what for the atrocity brought

against him

and then he said he's ready to go I

heard his mother cry and they gave him

the injection he gasped for air four

times I watched his shirt don't you know

it's heart being on shirt

I watched it till it stopped then it

stopped at 6:14 one tear fell down as I

one tear and he was gone

and it was over and prospect of someone

who is going to be locked away for life

without parole would that satisfy you as

yes so it would be definitely an

alternative because death penalty sounds

a little bit too much like Old Testament

the wrath of God Jesus probably would

not have been at that look at us but

some people just don't deserve to live

can I say something please I know I'm

July the furthest my name they executed

Michael and I knew Michael pretty well

yeah and I kept up with I have another

four kind of clipping and website thing

I have on him and Jason I have like a

whole Locker box full so I know as much

about him as is anybody in my in Mike

Michael was just just like Jason they

were both young and whatever they did or

didn't do I don't know I wasn't there

but Michael was just was just a young

young kid and

and I know he I know when they executed

him I know how I know his less words and

everything else and and and I know I

know

by executing Michael I don't think it

brought any of those people back and I

don't think it deterred anything I don't

think it deterred anybody out there

much-publicized as it was he did not

deter anything and I really did not

believe that it solved anything by

taking another life and it hurt me but

when he went when it come time for his

execution I knew it was gonna be about

six o'clock it's six early a few minutes

after 6:00 p.m. and I was on my knees at

my bump in for Michael praying for

Michael and a feeling come over me about

ten five or ten minutes after 6:00 a

feeling come over me that's very very

hard to explain it was like I felt the

loss of what used to be my son's best

friend

I felt I felt that I felt that pain

whenever they killed him but I just wish

those family the family members would

know that I'm like that I am I heard for

their loss that's very importantly

Michael never never that's what upset

them because Michael never tried to

reach out to them I wish I could and say

I'm sorry

Melissa let me address one thing among

death row inmates there's such a

phenomenon like death row groupies the

same way rock stars have groupies and

you have seen women like that I have

seen women like that in fairness I've

also have seen women who are married to

death row inmates and truly committed

relationships that I believe are not

disingenuous and I believe come from

their heart you know some people are

just supposed to be together whether

there's a cage and lawmen between you I

believe that I mean I do believe that

there's a fair amount of women who want

attention who my media coverage to seek

out infamous men I mean like Scott

Peterson gets a hundred letters a day on

death row in California that's

ridiculous he murdered his pregnant wife

yes I said correct that case yeah a

good-looking man does that you know

however Jason is not an ugly man either

describe him to us please like

physically yes

you only have touched his hand describe

his hands to us they're a lot bigger

than mine right there are tiny hands he

always Jason he holds hands funny and he

always holds my hand like that as

opposed to intertwine so he holds on to

me and I just know that his hands were

massive because he wears a ring size 11

our wedding rings it's an 11 and a half

and I were a four so you can totally cup

my hand

where are you allowed to touch each

other

hardly each other exchanged rings

I still can't get a ring and you were

separated by a glass wall just like this

right here except for we had a phone and

it was solid right here it's not aglow

but when she comes for visits are you

allowed to hug her I am now after we

married I'm allowed to hug her I'm

allowed to give her a kiss before and

after visit we're allowed to hold hands

on the table and have contacted but of

course of course with the guards present

as close as you are to me and you would

like to have children yes how would that

happen how what sort of option is there

I want 50 children she wants to saw man

we have to work on this

I want children for different reasons I

want children with her specifically

because I love her I want to be with her

I want to give her something she'll

always have with me I'm under the

impression seeing you now that you

became pregnant only a few days after we

met your husband um you guys spent him

on the 18th of October I think so yeah

something like yeah I believe my baby

was made on the 23rd October right after

we saw a house there to 24th you went

into action first speak

and the father of the baby is legally

will be chasing yes it is chasing

biologically legally I can't every

single sense since you are not allowed

to do more than touching hands how do

you become pregnant there's a mystery

yeah it's kind of a mystery um there is

people involved that I don't wanna

mention no we would not imply any anyone

but I have to speculate s such a thing

like contraband entering prisons like

let's say drugs cellphones illegal

messages there seems to be something the

other way round

contraband from the prison to the

outside and you became pregnant oh can

be formulated like this we we prefer to

say that I was artificially inseminated

do you have a name for the boy I love we

came up with Eastern Eastern Aran

okay shows I think there's a face can

you point it out it's right there if you

actually can see it close enough you can

tell my baby has my strong job

you live on through your children and

the love that you put into them projects

to the world my parents are both gone

and I had this big hole in my heart and

I realized that what you do is you take

all of that love and you give it back

I mean nothing else matters

I actually have this shirt tacked up on

my walk can they see the shrimp can you

turn it around

I just make sure and somebody told me

about the the live your - and that's

really after all this that I went

through and quitting everything I've

heard the stores telling me of a few -

how do you how do you gonna live your

dash and then they don't understand what

are you talking about - and this one's

your tombstone you get your birth date

and you got the day that you decease and

you get that little dash in the middle

that's your life right there that's

wrong that's everything between from

your tummy is born from the time you die

how are you gonna live your - and that's

where I'm at now I'm going to live my -

and made sure that everything tried to

make everything right for the family

everybody hold still and watch the birds

and you knew once you get up in Mt life

like that and once you feel good about

your life you understand you do start

watching what the birds do you know what

the Ducks are don't like the

hummingbirds why there's so many of them

you

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