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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:20,719 Nobody could have foreseen 2 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,400 anything like this happening. 3 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,519 The cops go inside and the first thing they sense 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,119 is the smell of blood. 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,239 Why these four college students? 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,799 Why would he do this? 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,079 Ever since this happened, 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,319 I've locked my door every single night. 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,919 Why this terrible thing happened? 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,640 Why somebody could do something so awful? 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,319 Someone do this horrific crime 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,720 and they're still out there. 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,879 There's a crazy person out there with a knife. 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,560 Who knows when he's going to stop. 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,199 This person is still on the loose. 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,360 The fear was so visceral and real. 17 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:19,799 This house right here is where police found four bodies. 18 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,239 And later that day, 19 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,519 The University of Idaho confirmed 20 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,679 that they were U of I students. 21 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,999 Moscow is a college town, 22 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,719 so we have a very different demographic 23 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,399 than is present in the rest of the state. 24 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,280 We skew way younger. 25 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,840 We've got a lot of people in the 18 to 24/25-year-old range, 26 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,319 and then a lot of retirees, 27 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,759 a lot of people come here just because 28 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,559 of the college atmosphere we have. 29 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,239 There's a lot of culture, arts activities, 30 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,360 things that go with college towns. 31 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,639 And so a lot of people come here just for that and retire. 32 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,199 The mountains are surrounding, capped in snow. 33 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,480 The rivers are running wild and free, so to speak. 34 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,399 There's scent of sage in the air in summertime. 35 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,519 In the wintertime there's the smell of cinnamon 36 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,040 in all the coffee shops. 37 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,960 Very cosy kind of place. 38 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,279 The University of Idaho, 39 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,519 like many other universities in the United States, 40 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,999 has what we call a Greek system. 41 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,119 These are large houses that are in the middle of campus, 42 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,759 where students can pledge their allegiance 43 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,199 or decide to live on campus 44 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,879 At many universities we have the fraternities and sororities, 45 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,000 these big Greek houses. 46 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,039 For somebody who is actually in college, 47 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,880 what a fraternity or sorority means is this social circle. 48 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,639 They have lots of formals, social activities. 49 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:17,639 It's a really good way for students 50 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:18,999 to make friends right away. 51 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,479 Fraternities, sororities, houses. 52 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,999 It all means Greek life. 53 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,280 All these students were living on what we call Greek Row. 54 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,680 This street of all these giant houses. 55 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,879 Greek life is pretty strong on campus. 56 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,000 It's definitely the biggest of the housing communities. 57 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,479 The dorms socialise with each other 58 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,839 and the off campus people are together and that. 59 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,799 But I mean, frats and sororities are really, 60 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,159 they were the core of all of like the social events. 61 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,199 Any major event that was actually going to get students 62 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,840 there was organised by Greek Life. 63 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,120 There's always something going on every weekend night. 64 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,119 There's always parties and it's not animal House or anything. 65 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,759 There are rules and stuff, supposedly. 66 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,679 There was some article that came out ten years ago, 67 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,559 that named U Idaho the top party school in the nation, 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,239 so that gives you an idea. 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,759 As soon as you're initiated into the, the organisation, 70 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,039 you have this family who... 71 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,959 I mean, they call each other brothers and sisters. 72 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,199 Being there and being with everyone, 73 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,719 I mean, that's kind of my favourite part 74 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,200 about being in college was the community that we all had. 75 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,399 It sounded like the ultimate college experience. 76 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,119 Hi, my name is Xana Kernodle. 77 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,360 I'm a marketing major here at the University of Idaho. 78 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,519 Uh, this is actually King Street 79 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,879 where I've lived the past two years. 80 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,439 And I really like just hanging out with my friends all the time 81 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,360 and being super-involved 82 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,079 in school events and everything else. 83 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,879 So yeah, that's just a little bit about me 84 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,039 and I'm really excited to take on this course. 85 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,719 The King Road area is a stone's throw away from 86 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,280 the actual University of Idaho campus border. 87 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,519 It's a very popular area for 88 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,240 off-campus housing of college students. 89 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,279 They're all primarily rental homes 90 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:26,039 that college students typically reside in 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,120 due to its close location to the university. 92 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,599 At 1122 King Road, 93 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,440 there were a group of girls all living together. 94 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,599 There were five girls living in this house, 95 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,719 Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogan, Dylan Mortenson, 96 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,760 Bethany Funk, and Xana Kernodle. 97 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,760 Ethan Chapin was the boyfriend of Xana Kernodle. 98 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,920 And he was part of the Sigma Chi fraternity. 99 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,319 It really seemed like Xana and Ethan 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,880 had found the perfect match. 101 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,439 The King Road house, 102 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,319 it was really that kind of house 103 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,080 where they were coming and going. 104 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,879 The girls living in it, 105 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,359 and they had people coming and going from their house as well. 106 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,880 It sounded like a total revolving door. 107 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,879 All young, right in the middle of college. 108 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,319 I mean, they were partying with their friends, 109 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,799 but they were also going to class. 110 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,399 They were close to graduating. 111 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,359 They were getting all of their work done. 112 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,799 They were making plans for their future, 113 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,160 who they were going to be, where they were going to go. 114 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,679 When you're in college, 115 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,359 it feels like your whole life is ahead of you. 116 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,720 It feels like the beginning of the rest of your life. 117 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:46,119 You do feel that sense of safety, 118 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,680 like you're around so many other young people. 119 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,719 It's just one of those communities that 120 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,040 nothing bad can happen to you here. 121 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:58,759 In the weeks leading up to Thanksgiving break, 122 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,719 everything's on track, the students are doing great, 123 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:01,960 they're having fun. 124 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,799 They're excited about Thanksgiving break. 125 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,240 Kaylie's even set to graduate in like a month. 126 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,920 Everything's perfect. 127 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,880 And then everything changes. 128 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,399 It was Saturday in November, you know, 129 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,879 so it's a little too late for the farmers market, 130 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,519 but still, the shops were open. 131 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,999 Downtown's busy. 132 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,519 The town is alive with all the students biking around. 133 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,480 It's busy. 134 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,919 People come to visit their kids, 135 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,960 see how they're doing in college. 136 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,639 It seemed like any other normal weekend that Moscow's ever had. 137 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,039 The beautiful golden leaves have started to fall 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,559 all over campus. 139 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,999 The days are getting shorter. 140 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,720 It's getting darker earlier, but it's football season. 141 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,959 The Vandal football team, very big. 142 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,120 It's a big culture here. 143 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,239 On November 12th, 144 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,360 the University of Idaho football team 145 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,479 had a football game against UC Davis. 146 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,480 So we as officers, I actually worked that football game. 147 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,639 It was a normal typical Saturday night for our college. 148 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,960 I mean, there were different parties up on campus. 149 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,319 A lot of the kids who go to the games or just attend 150 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,159 the university on game day, they have a tendency to party. 151 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,600 They go to different functions where they drink. 152 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,679 They just hang out 153 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,679 well before the game, whether it's at houses, 154 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:34,199 fraternities or sororities 155 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,200 or tailgating in the parking lot up at our stadium. 156 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,320 And so it's just a normal typical day. 157 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,199 At the end of the game, the fog had rolled in, 158 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,479 the temperature had dropped a little bit 159 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,959 and it was just kind of eerie. 160 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,239 I remember walking out of the dome just going, 161 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,639 huh, this is kind of weird. 162 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,720 You know, this kind of has a weird feeling to it. 163 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,039 That evening, 164 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,960 all the roommates had been hanging out. 165 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,999 Kaylee, who had actually already graduated and moved out, 166 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,360 had come to town to show off her new car to her roommates. 167 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,719 They were all hanging out, 168 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,279 and they're smiling, and they all look very happy. 169 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,679 And Kaylee had posted that saying 170 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:24,039 that these were her people 171 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,599 and she was grateful for her people. 172 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,719 That photo is embedded into everyone's memory 173 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,840 because it was the last photo they all took together. 174 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,839 They made plans to go out that evening. 175 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,879 There was a formal at the Sigma Chi fraternity 176 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,399 that Ethan attended with his sister. 177 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,720 His girlfriend at the time, Xana Kernodle, came with him. 178 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,279 Madison Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves 179 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,679 went out to the Corner Club, 180 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:56,279 a well-known sports bar 181 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,279 right at the end of Main Street in Moscow, 182 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,759 where a lot of the Greek students hang out. 183 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,160 They had a good time there. 184 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,800 They were there until the early morning hours. 185 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,079 Once that concluded, they walked down to the, 186 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,679 more of the central area of town 187 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:17,839 near what we call Friendship Square, 188 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,519 where a food truck named the Grub Truck 189 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,839 was, is commonly posted for the early morning hours 190 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,079 to capture the individuals who were leaving 191 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,479 the drinking establishments 192 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,240 so they can get a bite to eat before they go home. 193 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,159 And that's exactly what Kaylee and Madison did. 194 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,039 They went there and, and ordered food 195 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,199 and then were given a ride home back to the King Street home. 196 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:55,599 Xana and Ethan were over at Ethan's fraternity. 197 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,119 He was a member of the Sigma Chi fraternity, 198 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,319 which is, 199 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,159 you could see from the King Street house, 200 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,959 you could see the Sigma Chi house. 201 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,039 It's that close. 202 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,600 It's almost a stone's throw away. 203 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,999 They had been over there for a function 204 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,559 and also returned back to the home 205 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:13,720 in the early morning hours of the 13th. 206 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,359 They all stayed up together too. 207 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,759 They were talking in Kaylee's room 208 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,240 before they went their separate ways. 209 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,159 The two other roommates, 210 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,000 Bethany Funk and Dylan Mortenson, 211 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:29,239 they had also gone out that night, 212 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,079 but they had come home earlier than the rest 213 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,320 and said that they had just gone to bed. 214 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,359 And it seemed like a regular night. 215 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,040 Kaylee and Madison went to bed 216 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,680 and Ethan also went to bed. 217 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,760 The last person that we know that was awake was Xana. 218 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:54,799 She had been scrolling on her phone 219 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,439 and had ordered a DoorDash order of food, 220 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,679 which arrived on the 4:00 hour. 221 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,440 Dylan Mortenson, 222 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,239 she awoke a couple times to weird noises. 223 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,120 She thought that she had heard Kaylee's dog, Murphy, whining 224 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,479 and then somebody crying. 225 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:22,759 She opened her door, 226 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,080 She didn't really see anything. 227 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,719 Then she heard noises again. 228 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:26,519 Woke up. 229 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,639 She was tired. 230 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,760 She heard some thumping around. 231 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,839 She heard someone running 232 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,159 and say, "I think someone's here." 233 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,639 And then she heard a male voice say, 234 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,239 "It's okay, I'm gonna to help you." 235 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,519 Dylan, knowing that her house is a revolving door 236 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,479 and knowing that Xana's boyfriend was probably over. 237 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,839 Or maybe Jack was over or Jake, 238 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,199 the other two girls boyfriends, 239 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,200 thought nothing of it. 240 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,079 Dylan went back to sleep 241 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,599 until she heard one more thing that made her get up. 242 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:11,319 She saw a man dressed in black with a mask covering his face, 243 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,999 showing only his eyes and bushy eyebrows 244 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,880 walking toward her. 245 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,279 He was kind of a taller, 246 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,120 skinnier build man. 247 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,439 She shut her door. 248 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,839 She was frozen in fear. 249 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:25,680 She locked her door. 250 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,639 She heard him leave 251 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,960 out the glass sliding door in the kitchen. 252 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,319 She had no idea what was going on. 253 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,119 Frantic calling the roommates, they didn't answer. 254 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,680 She called Bethany downstairs. 255 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,600 She runs downstairs with Bethany. 256 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,359 They're panicking, they're calling their roommates. 257 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,319 No one's answering. 258 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,039 I saw some guy in the house. 259 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,160 Looked like he was wearing a black ski mask. 260 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,519 He was tall. 261 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,399 She said, what is going on? 262 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,639 They're texting back and forth. 263 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,159 Bethany says, run down here. 264 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,279 Come stay with me. 265 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,239 They're like, we're gonna figure out 266 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,559 what's going on in the morning, 267 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:56,440 but we're going to try not to worry right now. 268 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,479 Remember, this is a party house. 269 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,079 How many times does your friend have some guy over 270 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,640 who just kind of slunk out? 271 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,839 Nothing ever happens in Moscow. 272 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,799 The rest of the town of Moscow woke up, 273 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,319 went back to school or back to their day jobs 274 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,840 and completely unsuspecting, 275 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,999 feeling that same feeling of I'm safe. 276 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,319 Everything's fine. 277 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,080 That harmony of the town. 278 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,040 Except that something absolutely awful had happened. 279 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,680 Nobody could have foreseen anything like this. 280 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,440 There's multiple people talking on the phone. 281 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,960 One of the voices says to the dispatcher, 282 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,160 we don't know what's going on. 283 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,520 The nature of the call was just an unconscious person. 284 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,479 And so our officers, 285 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,759 that was the initial information that they had 286 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,279 and that's what they responded to 287 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,640 until they got on scene. 288 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,039 Immediately upon entering the house, 289 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,719 the cops know that this is a scene of carnage. 290 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,040 They can smell it in the air. 291 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,279 There's blood soaking into the carpet, 292 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,479 soaking into the mattresses, blood on the walls. 293 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,879 There's spatter. 294 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,439 There's all kinds of things that you would expect 295 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,919 if you were watching TV and saw a crime scene. 296 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,799 But these guys know from intimate experience 297 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,960 that this is a horror show. 298 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,879 Quite frankly, at that moment, 299 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,319 I was completely full of adrenaline. 300 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,399 A horrific scene, 301 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,119 something that I'll never forget. 302 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,120 They see Kaylee and Maddie had been butchered. 303 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,999 They're in bed together, clothed, 304 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,920 soaking into each other's blood. 305 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Maddie Mogen, who's been slashed across her face, 306 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,360 stabbed in multiple places. 307 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Kaylee Goncalves is so disfigured 308 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:32,000 by what is clearly a series of dozens of stab wounds. 309 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,080 Blunt force trauma to her face. 310 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,559 Also signs of asphyxiation. 311 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,959 She is so beyond what is necessary to murder somebody, 312 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,759 they call this overkill, 313 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,880 and usually they associate overkill with rage. 314 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,199 They go down the hall on the second floor. 315 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,640 They see Xana and Ethan had been butchered. 316 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Xana 317 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,440 has been stabbed over 50 times. 318 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,960 Lots of defensive wounds. 319 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,279 It's clear that she was awake. 320 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,279 It's clear that she had begun to eat 321 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,279 her Jack in the Box from DoorDash, 322 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,159 and was met by the perpetrator on his way out of the house. 323 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,639 She's stabbed all over the place. 324 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,039 The only way that could have happened 325 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,479 in the way that her stab wounds display 326 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,439 is if she had been struggling, 327 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,999 fighting for her life, 328 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:36,920 which leads to an extremely prolonged death for her. 329 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,319 Her boyfriend, Ethan Chapin, is found with his jugular slit 330 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,079 and other areas of his body slashed, 331 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,560 but he's in bed. 332 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,439 It seems clear to the cops that Ethan had been asleep 333 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,639 when he was murdered. 334 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:57,920 This is a scene of carnage. 335 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,799 They were just young college kids 336 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,039 going to school to get an education 337 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,440 and go out and enjoy their lives. 338 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,359 They were all very social. 339 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,119 They, they enjoyed friends and good times. 340 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:41,879 And I know Kaylee and Maddie grew up together. 341 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,479 They were very, very close. 342 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,120 Extremely close. 343 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,479 Maddie Mogen was an extension of Kaylee Goncalves family. 344 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,799 Spent all kinds of time with them on family vacations 345 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,439 and after school hangouts and doing homework together 346 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,400 and going to dinner with the Goncalves. 347 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,759 Maddie was from, 348 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,399 I guess what people would say was a broken family, 349 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,920 but that might be a little dramatic. 350 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:08,319 Her family was around, 351 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,360 but she was just very attached to the Goncalves family, 352 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:17,319 and Kaylee was from a large family of multiple siblings, 353 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,839 father who really sort of got down to business 354 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,079 and took care of things. 355 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,959 His family was well established 356 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,159 and Madison Mogen was a part of that. 357 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,840 They were described as Maddie, kind, sweet, 358 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,519 Kaylee adventurous, outgoing, 359 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,759 Xana, a friend to everybody. 360 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,040 And then there is Ethan Chapin. 361 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,559 Ethan and Xana were dating. 362 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,720 People liked them together a lot. 363 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,879 Ethan was just this kind, hard-working kid. 364 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,240 He was a triplet. 365 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:02,599 It really seemed like Xana and Ethan had found 366 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,719 the perfect match in each other. 367 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,559 And that's what everybody said. 368 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,839 Everybody who was around them. 369 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,039 And you saw the pictures and the videos of them 370 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,759 hugging each other, being on the couch together, 371 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,239 eating together like 372 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,519 they were just together and the perfect couple. 373 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,880 And they were so in love. 374 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,359 All of Xana's friends said that 375 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,080 she was always the single friend. 376 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,839 They never expected that Xana would find anybody like Ethan, 377 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,759 that she would fall head over heels for. 378 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,160 I mean, it was just like a Romeo and Juliet romance. 379 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,960 It's just so horrifically sad that this occurred. 380 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,639 It was very, very vicious. 381 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,719 Multiple stab wounds to all of the victims. 382 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,959 Not just simple clean one stab wound or something. 383 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,439 There was, there was multiple stab wounds, multiple cuts, 384 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,320 and a lot of them on each of the victims. 385 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,999 One of the first things we try and find, a point of entry. 386 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,039 How do we feel that the suspect entered the residence? 387 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,519 So we're always looking. 388 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,919 We looked at every door and window that we could find 389 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,640 to say, okay, did the person come through this door? 390 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Did they come through a window? 391 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,759 Um, and this scene specifically, um, the rear slider, 392 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,959 the sliding glass door that was out of the kitchen was open, 393 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,360 so then we knew we needed to process it. 394 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,199 When they did process it, 395 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,039 they found lots of smudged fingerprints 396 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,159 because I don't think we got any viable prints 397 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,279 off of that window. 398 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,479 We're looking for a weapon. 399 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,639 What is the murder weapon? 400 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,400 Is it still here in the house? 401 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,399 On Kaylee's bed, 402 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,959 where Kaylee and Maddie had both been killed, 403 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,319 laying next to Maddie is a tan sheath for a Ka-Bar knife. 404 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,719 The officer starts talking to the kids. 405 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,039 He's really nice, compassionate. 406 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,239 He's trying to get them blankets. 407 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,559 I mean, it's cold, it's freezing outside, 408 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,640 and he's asking them questions. 409 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,559 What happened last night? 410 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,440 So Dylan recounts what she saw that she heard bumping around. 411 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,679 Bethany also talks about, 412 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,079 you know, what she saw and heard. 413 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,759 She heard some bumping around, 414 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,239 but they're not allowed back in the house at this point. 415 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,720 They start putting caution tape all across the King Road house. 416 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,199 So these kids are standing outside on the street 417 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,240 in their pyjamas. 418 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,999 It's really intense. 419 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,359 They're crying. 420 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:44,359 They're trying to make sense of what's going on. 421 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:45,999 At this point too early on, 422 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,599 they didn't even know that their friends were dead upstairs. 423 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,559 That day, I knew I was going to be meeting with Haadiya, 424 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,919 my editor-in-chief for the paper. 425 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,520 We were going to get coffee, so I picked her up. 426 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,519 And she lived at the university student apartments 427 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,559 on that street that leads you to King Road. 428 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,280 So you had a clear visual of that bend that goes down there. 429 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,199 And so I remember pulling in. 430 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,519 At King Road there was a lot of police presence, 431 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,239 um, caution tape, officers walking around. 432 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,880 It just felt like something was off. 433 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,799 But we were following our typical procedures, you know, 434 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040 covering crime, see what we can find out. 435 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,319 And that's when we get the first notification 436 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,040 of the Vandal alert. 437 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,479 The information being shared publicly about this event 438 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,600 occurred relatively quickly. 439 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,879 I recall being on scene in front of the residence, 440 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,239 and I heard the group of college age individuals 441 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,359 that were nearby. 442 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,400 I heard phones going off, 443 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,359 and then a very strong emotional reaction 444 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,200 to whatever had just occurred on their phone. 445 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,759 And we found out that the University of Idaho 446 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,159 has their own mass notification system 447 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,199 to notify their student bodies 448 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,759 of major events or security safety issues. 449 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,039 So what had happened was the university had sent out a, 450 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,399 what they call a Vandal alert 451 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,839 that went to all the cell phones and devices of the students 452 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,559 and stated that the Moscow police 453 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,879 were on scene on King Road 454 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,479 investigating a quadruple homicide. 455 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,759 So the news that this was not anything but a murder scene 456 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,880 was broken very, very quickly to the community. 457 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,799 Me and my friends had gone out the night before. 458 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,919 We had the same night that, you know, 459 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080 every other person who went to the game did. 460 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,079 That was one of the more shocking things 461 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,959 is that the night before was really 462 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,760 one of the best nights of my college experience. 463 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,279 I never felt closer to the community 464 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,479 and to my friends and everything. 465 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,599 So waking up the next morning, 466 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,919 I woke up a little later in the day 467 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,519 to quite a few messages on my phone. 468 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,279 It was about halfway home 469 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,919 and a text comes in and said, 470 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,119 there's been a homicide with four victims on campus, 471 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,880 and that's all the news we got. 472 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,799 Unthinkable. 473 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,119 I was at home when I heard. 474 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,879 My husband was teaching at the University of Idaho. 475 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,480 Kaylee Goncalves had been one of his students the year before. 476 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,439 So my husband texted me. 477 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,880 He said, "There's a homicide in town!!" 478 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,600 I'm like, what? 479 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,159 What is going on? 480 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,239 So he gets home from being with his friend 481 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,920 and he says, "do you want to go to the house?" 482 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,239 I said, "Absolutely, we got to go, let's go." 483 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,359 They said stay away from the area. 484 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:16,719 I'm getting my car, I'm going. 485 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,199 I drive in the street before King Road, 486 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,559 and there's a turn that goes right up a hill. 487 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,639 So we turn up that hill, I park my car and we get out 488 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,279 and I can see over the whole King Road neighbourhood 489 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,959 from that vantage point. 490 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,239 And I see the cops are 491 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,959 canvassing this entire neighbourhood. 492 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,279 I couldn't believe it. 493 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,719 He said, "Do you want to go up to the house?" 494 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,999 And I actually said, "No, I want to let the police work." 495 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,040 I mean, this is my town. 496 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,319 This sort of stuff doesn't happen around here. 497 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,719 So I said, "No, let's just stay away." 498 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,879 I will get more information tomorrow. 499 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,519 But again, the rumour mill started churning 500 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,440 because there was a lack of information. 501 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,279 It just created this void 502 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,600 and people just started speculating. 503 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,879 A lot of that speculation was occurring 504 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,800 with folks that had YouTube channels and the like. 505 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,879 At first, I remember a huge rumour was 506 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,519 that it was some type of drug deal gone wrong, 507 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,359 and that just didn't make sense to me. 508 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,959 And I remember that was a huge rumour flowing around 509 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,999 students and even reporters, 510 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,680 and I couldn't fathom that that was what had happened. 511 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,359 I didn't believe it. 512 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,759 And I think that maybe at the time, 513 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,519 people wanted to believe that it was a drug deal gone bad 514 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,160 because the alternative was so much worse. 515 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,959 It was difficult to deal with because 516 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,799 it just created another level of noise 517 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,040 around the investigation. 518 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,239 And as the communications team, 519 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,159 we instigated a rumour control aspect 520 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,240 to our, to our communications to the public. 521 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,559 So we would meet every morning 522 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,239 and talk about what we had learned. 523 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,439 We had other entities and third-party vendors 524 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,679 assisting us with this, 525 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,359 but keeping an eye on what was being said, 526 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,839 what was being spread across the internet 527 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,000 in regard to speculation of this case, 528 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,639 and we were identifying the primary rumours, as it were, 529 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,919 of the day, that were being spread 530 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:42,319 and doing our best to debunk those with the community 531 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,399 and continually having that communication that 532 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,839 if the information that you're receiving 533 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,599 had not come from the Moscow Police Department, 534 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,840 it's not accurate, it's not vetted information. 535 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,959 So it just felt like we were continually battling 536 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,159 this waves of information 537 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,679 that were completely false and speculative. 538 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,879 And these innocent victims, 539 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360 they were just college students. 540 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,159 There was nothing obvious to the reason why 541 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,760 someone would want to harm them. 542 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,559 The description of that individual 543 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,319 was a male with bushy eyebrows 544 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,559 and was holding something in their hands, 545 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,759 and the roommate did say that they caught eyes, 546 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,760 locked eyes with the individual, 547 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,400 and in doing so, she closed her door and locked it. 548 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,959 Our biggest challenge was from day one 549 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,879 was this was a whodunit. 550 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,159 Where were they at at that point in time? 551 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,639 Are they going to commit another crime 552 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,160 or are they going to do this again? 553 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,639 This person is still on the loose. 554 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,720 The fear was so visceral and real. 555 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,280 What happened? 556 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Why did this happen? 557 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,359 Is there a crazy person on the loose 558 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,159 who's going to come and visit me tonight 559 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,880 and stab me to death too? 560 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,079 The insecurity and questioning that went on through town 561 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,399 was ramping up rapidly. 562 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800 The town felt like there was just this heavy fog over it 563 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,800 because again, we didn't know 564 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360 who the person that did this was. 565 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,400 And everyone was on edge. 566 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,879 And also, you're dealing with the fact that 567 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,720 this even happened in Moscow. 568 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,999 And I remember I was doing a live shot 569 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,679 for the TV station I worked at, 570 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,360 and the anchor had asked me, well, 571 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,919 you're a Vandal alum, so how do you feel? 572 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,159 And that was like the first time I had ever cried on TV. 573 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,320 I just lost it. 574 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,039 I just, I tried to keep it together, 575 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,040 I couldn't. 576 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,839 This case turned into a gravy train for conspiracy theorists 577 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,919 because they're making money off of this. 578 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,479 I was watching these lunatics 579 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,559 go from 800 followers on Instagram 580 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,839 to 100,000 or whatever it was. 581 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,439 TikTok, YouTube. 582 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,399 They're getting thousands and thousands of followers. 583 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,799 They're making money off... 584 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,999 Maybe it was this person. 585 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,399 Maybe it was that person. 586 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,199 People were calling the Corner Club bar non-stop, 587 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,680 starting at eight in the morning. 588 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,559 The owner told me he just went in one day 589 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,919 and just took the phone off the wall 590 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,279 because he couldn't take it. 591 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,519 People were calling, trying to get the last names 592 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,999 of the bartenders that worked there. 593 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,919 I know so-and-so did it. 594 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,959 I mean, again, people were treating this as entertainment 595 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,759 and our town, our college, 596 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,559 you know, our university, 597 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,200 these students, their families were really suffering. 598 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,279 People were getting doxxed people were getting targeted, 599 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,799 innocent people. 600 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,160 Maybe it's the brother because remember, these were young 601 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,839 victims living out loud. 602 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,399 They're beautiful. 603 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,159 But their social media accounts, even to this day are public. 604 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,639 So people are going through them. 605 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,119 Who are their friends? 606 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,199 Everything from their Instagram posts to their TikToks 607 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,199 to their Venmo transactions, 608 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,599 taking it upon themselves to be Sherlock Holmes 609 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,799 and try to put together the mystery themselves 610 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,320 from their little smartphone. 611 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,679 And playing a game and this is people's lives. 612 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,759 And some of these kids just went home for break. 613 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,759 I mean, reporters were showing up 614 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,559 at their parents house in Boise. 615 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,279 Oh, talk to us about the killings. 616 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,160 Oh, it was so stressful for the students. 617 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,959 A lot of them were caught off guard or ambushed 618 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,479 when they were just trying to get their education 619 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,880 and move on with their lives as best as they can. 620 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,479 Heavy journalism and press attention didn't help at all 621 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,839 with the rumours or anything. 622 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,439 I saw a small business owners and faculty 623 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,279 and even other students were being accused 624 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,879 of being involved somehow 625 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,759 by people who didn't know what they were talking about. 626 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,599 And that just sort of comes from, 627 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,720 I don't know, all the attention without as many answers. 628 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,199 But by Wednesday, the police finally 629 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,559 were going to have a press conference. 630 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,999 November 16th. 631 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,320 They say, "We're going to tell people what's going on." 632 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,079 I'm in the back of the press conference. 633 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,240 There's cameras everywhere. 634 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,839 And I'm looking around. 635 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,079 There's journalists from the New York Times, from CNN, 636 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,679 from Fox, from MSNBC. 637 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,439 Why? Why are they here? 638 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,639 Why are they in my town? 639 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,799 I've never seen these people in my life. 640 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,999 What's going on? 641 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,879 And she asked the question to Chief Fry, 642 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,799 why, you know, shouldn't we be worried? 643 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,479 And he says, I guess we have to go back to 644 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,039 there is a threat to the community. 645 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,479 And boom, that's it. 646 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,319 That's the quote everybody runs with 647 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,760 because they've admitted, yeah, we don't have anybody. 648 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,040 We should probably be looking over our shoulder. 649 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,319 We did not have a suspect in custody. 650 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,240 It's, it's impossible not to have a community be on edge. 651 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,879 And especially with the university, 652 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,319 many individuals of the same age group as the victims, 653 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,119 many of them knew the victims. 654 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,519 The whole community was victimised by this crime. 655 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,199 They've kept the investigation close to their chest, 656 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,399 and most people leave those press conferences 657 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,599 feeling like they learned very little 658 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,759 and they start to badger in, on their, on their sites. 659 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,079 They start to badger the, the police force 660 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,319 and they start to badger the local authorities. 661 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,439 And they, they think, oh, these small-town yokels, 662 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,800 they don't know what the hell they're doing. 663 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,159 What was interesting is the police 664 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,839 were getting all kinds of criticism, right? 665 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,879 People are calling, harassing them. 666 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,319 You don't know what you're doing. 667 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,559 They're working overtime. 668 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,279 But also the community is being supportive, 669 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,119 bringing them food, cheering them on. 670 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,359 They're working overtime 671 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,039 through the holidays on this case, 672 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,759 and we're not seeing a lot of that police work 673 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,840 because they're keeping it very close to the chest. 674 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,999 And people on social media are going nuts about this case 675 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,639 and acting like it's some sort of game for them 676 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,840 instead of an active homicide investigation. 677 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,399 I can't imagine the strength of these parents to even... 678 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,039 How do you get out of bed the next day? 679 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,679 You know, they all handled it differently. 680 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,679 Some were a lot more quiet in the press. 681 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,839 Others, the Goncalves family, they got really loud. 682 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,079 They were going on the news, talking about it all the time. 683 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,159 Everybody handles grief differently. 684 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,319 But on November 30th, we had a vigil for these students. 685 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,399 This person is still on the loose. 686 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,520 We still have no suspect in custody. 687 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,479 If you're a community member 688 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,119 or a student who's experiencing this, 689 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,799 not only are you living in the nightmare, 690 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,359 but there's no escape. 691 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,679 You turn on the radio, 692 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,000 they're talking about the killings in Moscow. 693 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,639 You turn on the TV, 694 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,799 they're running footage non-stop of your college campus 695 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,879 talking about horror in Idaho. 696 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,839 These kids were like, we just want to be students. 697 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,039 We just want to worry about homework again. 698 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,720 We cannot escape this. 699 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,439 The pressure's coming from all over the place of, 700 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,879 why don't you have a suspect yet? 701 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,919 Why haven't you made an arrest yet? 702 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,319 Are they going to commit another crime, 703 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,600 or are they going to do this again very soon? 704 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,159 So those were the biggest unknowns that we were trying to 705 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,119 solve as quickly as we could 706 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,279 so that we can make sure our community was safe. 707 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,839 So we got the FBI involved, 708 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,560 our Federal Bureau of Investigations here in the US. 709 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,119 We had brought them in to help and assist with us. 710 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,359 So we now had the FBI, Idaho State Police 711 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,919 and the Moscow Police Department 712 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,800 all investigating this crime, all working together. 713 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:27,279 Everybody who got involved in this case 714 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,479 dropped everything they had going personally 715 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,959 through the holidays, through Christmas, 716 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,880 and did everything they could. 717 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,159 It was just the continual, um, daily grind. 718 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,559 Throughout this investigation we had two daily briefings, 719 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,999 one in the morning, one in the afternoon 720 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,680 with the entire investigative team. 721 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,359 We set up a tip line 722 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,759 where we were continually getting thousands of tips 723 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,199 from the community at large 724 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,799 that were looked at individually. 725 00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:00,839 You're typically thinking this is an extreme crime of passion 726 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,920 when you're talking homicide by knife, 727 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,439 that is something that that is a very motivated individual 728 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,359 committing a homicide by knife. 729 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,879 As much as you hate to say it, 730 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,759 but it's not very personal to shoot somebody with a gun. 731 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,639 You know, you can just stand away, 732 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,479 you don't have to be up close, 733 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,519 but to be a knife, you've got to be up close, 734 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,159 personal and violent actions. 735 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,199 And it's a very, what we call emotional event. 736 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,639 So you're kind of looking at 737 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,919 somebody who has this motivation. 738 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,319 We knew when our investigators found the knife sheath 739 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,920 in Madison's room that that was going to be a... 740 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,759 large, if not the largest bit of evidence possible. 741 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,519 So when we did find that piece of evidence 742 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,440 that was hand-delivered down to the Idaho State Police Lab. 743 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,719 We also got a report back from our Idaho State lab 744 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:07,159 that there is a single point DNA sample that was found, 745 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,039 a single male sample 746 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,799 that was a very clean sample, wasn't contaminated. 747 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,599 There was only one person's DNA that they found on that sample 748 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,840 from touch DNA. 749 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,399 The news when we found out from the lab 750 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,559 that they had found single point male DNA 751 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,119 on the snap of that sheath 752 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,920 was a very big day for the investigation. 753 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:35,400 We knew we had the DNA on the person who did this. 754 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Now it was just a matter of figuring out who they were. 755 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,039 At the same time, 756 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,479 we went out and sent the neighbourhood canvass team out, 757 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,239 just looking for who got cameras in the neighbourhood 758 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,800 and everything and trying to get footage. 759 00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:57,639 We found video on one of the cameras close by 760 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680 of a vehicle that piqued our interest. 761 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,719 We could see this white car 762 00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:08,360 making multiple passes around the house. 763 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,359 It would come in, go back out, come in, come back out. 764 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,199 And it did that for about a half hour, up to an hour, 765 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,599 just constantly going back and forth, back and forth, 766 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,920 just making laps. 767 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,599 And then what really piqued our interest 768 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,759 is right around the time, 769 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,839 right around 4:00, 4:20 in the morning 770 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,960 when we feel that the homicides happened, 771 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,159 this car just takes off out of the neighbourhood, 772 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,239 almost hits a garbage can and takes off up a road 773 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,320 that we can still see on the camera, 774 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,199 heading south out of town, 775 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,159 really was like, okay, we need to figure out 776 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,959 what kind of car this is. 777 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,240 There's something with this car. 778 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,839 The FBI was able to look at the vehicle. 779 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,280 They had an expert. 780 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,279 They go to the technical details of the vehicle, 781 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,720 window shapes, measurements, stuff like this. 782 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,119 They were pretty sure that it was a 783 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,039 white Hyundai Elantra. 784 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,359 That Hyundai 785 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,400 fits exactly into the timeline of the murders. 786 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,399 The police make this public 787 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,079 that they're looking for a white Hyundai Elantra. 788 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,479 We had two main pieces of evidence 789 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,519 that we were working on at the exact same time 790 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,039 was the knife sheath and the DNA, 791 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,680 but also the vehicle from the video. 792 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,959 We understood that people wanted answers. 793 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,640 They wanted the person who did this to be caught. 794 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,520 The pressure was immense, 795 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,039 but we utilised that pressure 796 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,919 as even more motivation to keep grinding and keep working. 797 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,879 We walked in to this building every single day 798 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,679 and you could just feel it. 799 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,640 It was palpable. 800 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,799 Everyone was on the same page. 801 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,919 Everybody was on the same path of the mission. 802 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,239 We were going to solve this 803 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,759 and we were going to get justice for these victims 804 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:01,759 and their families. 63587

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