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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,969 --> 00:00:04,271 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:04,338 --> 00:00:11,311 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,615 - Should we do this? 4 00:00:14,681 --> 00:00:15,949 - Yeah. 5 00:00:16,016 --> 00:00:17,384 We're still on the opposite side of the room. 6 00:00:17,451 --> 00:00:18,385 - I know. 7 00:00:18,452 --> 00:00:19,653 - I can feel the awkwardness. 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,654 ♪ ♪ 9 00:00:20,721 --> 00:00:22,022 - And set. 10 00:00:22,089 --> 00:00:25,893 - The "In The City" season 1 reunion starts now. 11 00:00:25,959 --> 00:00:27,227 Hey, everybody. 12 00:00:27,294 --> 00:00:31,832 Welcome to the "In The City" Season 1 Reunion. 13 00:00:31,899 --> 00:00:33,367 I love a season 1 reunion. 14 00:00:33,433 --> 00:00:34,701 I'm Andy Cohen. 15 00:00:34,768 --> 00:00:37,871 And I almost wore a whitish-pink suit tonight. 16 00:00:37,938 --> 00:00:39,773 But after what happened to Danielle, 17 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,675 I went right back in my dressing room 18 00:00:41,742 --> 00:00:43,544 and I changed very quickly. 19 00:00:43,610 --> 00:00:44,745 - Good move. 20 00:00:44,811 --> 00:00:46,914 - Without further ado, yes, let's say 21 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:49,816 hi to the gang from Gotham. 22 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:53,887 Yvonne and Nick, congratulations on expecting. 23 00:00:53,954 --> 00:00:54,888 - Thank you. 24 00:00:54,955 --> 00:00:55,889 - Yes! 25 00:00:55,956 --> 00:00:57,424 [castmates cheering] 26 00:00:57,491 --> 00:00:58,425 Hey, Gavin. 27 00:00:58,492 --> 00:00:59,760 - What's up? 28 00:00:59,826 --> 00:01:01,495 - Have you noticed a spike in business at your bars 29 00:01:01,562 --> 00:01:03,397 since the show started airing? - I have. 30 00:01:03,463 --> 00:01:04,698 - Yes. - People are showing up. 31 00:01:04,765 --> 00:01:05,832 - Excellent. 32 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:06,867 Hey, Georgina. - Hi. 33 00:01:06,934 --> 00:01:07,901 - How are you? - I'm good. 34 00:01:07,968 --> 00:01:08,902 How are you? 35 00:01:08,969 --> 00:01:10,237 - Great. 36 00:01:10,304 --> 00:01:12,139 Has Kyle hit you up for any butt Botox lately? 37 00:01:12,205 --> 00:01:13,740 - That would be a HIPAA violation to answer. 38 00:01:13,807 --> 00:01:15,108 - Oh! [laughter] 39 00:01:15,175 --> 00:01:16,109 - OK. 40 00:01:16,176 --> 00:01:17,711 Hey, Amanda. - Hi, Andy. 41 00:01:17,778 --> 00:01:19,146 - How are you? - I'm OK. 42 00:01:19,212 --> 00:01:20,647 - OK, good. 43 00:01:20,714 --> 00:01:23,417 I know the last few months have been a whirlwind for you. 44 00:01:23,483 --> 00:01:25,352 How are you approaching today differently? 45 00:01:25,419 --> 00:01:27,621 I know you actually did your own hair tonight. 46 00:01:27,688 --> 00:01:28,822 - I did. 47 00:01:28,889 --> 00:01:30,657 I did my own hair, makeup, and styling 48 00:01:30,724 --> 00:01:31,992 so no one can get in trouble. 49 00:01:32,059 --> 00:01:34,261 And if you hate it, then, you know, that's on me. 50 00:01:34,328 --> 00:01:35,329 - That's on you. 51 00:01:35,395 --> 00:01:36,463 - Right, right. 52 00:01:36,530 --> 00:01:38,031 - As are most of my actions, but-- 53 00:01:38,098 --> 00:01:39,266 - Yes. - --yeah. 54 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:40,267 - All right. 55 00:01:40,334 --> 00:01:41,268 Hi, Lindsay. 56 00:01:41,335 --> 00:01:42,402 - Hey, Andy. 57 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:45,372 - Is Gemma still a master of side-eye? 58 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:47,140 - She is. And in fact-- 59 00:01:47,207 --> 00:01:48,208 - Where'd she get that? 60 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:49,476 - I don't know. 61 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:52,479 It's so crazy how, you know, genetics work. 62 00:01:52,546 --> 00:01:53,780 - Yeah, it is. 63 00:01:53,847 --> 00:01:55,716 DJ Kyle Cook. - How are we doing? 64 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:56,717 - How are you? 65 00:01:56,783 --> 00:01:58,051 - Pretty good, pretty good. 66 00:01:58,118 --> 00:01:59,386 - Very good. 67 00:01:59,453 --> 00:02:02,022 The people need to know, how is your asshole doing? 68 00:02:02,089 --> 00:02:03,657 - Well, you're supposed to ease into Metamucil. 69 00:02:03,724 --> 00:02:06,193 I was taking four times the recommended dosage. 70 00:02:06,259 --> 00:02:08,395 I like, literally, like, rip my butt open. 71 00:02:08,462 --> 00:02:09,830 [crickets chirping] 72 00:02:10,831 --> 00:02:12,165 [laughter] 73 00:02:12,232 --> 00:02:13,967 - You know, I was hoping it made the edit. 74 00:02:14,034 --> 00:02:15,469 [laughter] 75 00:02:15,535 --> 00:02:16,636 I-- it took a while. 76 00:02:16,703 --> 00:02:18,438 I finally recovered. 77 00:02:18,505 --> 00:02:19,606 - You did? - Yeah. 78 00:02:19,673 --> 00:02:20,574 - Sounded like it. 79 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:21,575 - Oh, my god. 80 00:02:21,642 --> 00:02:23,243 Hey, Kenny and Whitney. 81 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:24,578 - Hi. - How's it going? 82 00:02:24,644 --> 00:02:25,579 - Good, good. 83 00:02:25,646 --> 00:02:26,580 How are you? 84 00:02:26,646 --> 00:02:27,714 - How's your spark these days? 85 00:02:27,781 --> 00:02:28,715 - Phenomenal. 86 00:02:28,782 --> 00:02:29,716 - Good. 87 00:02:29,783 --> 00:02:30,884 - It's very, very bright. 88 00:02:30,951 --> 00:02:32,986 - Hey, Danielle and Eoin. 89 00:02:33,053 --> 00:02:34,321 - Hi, Andy. - Hi, Andy. 90 00:02:34,388 --> 00:02:35,322 How are you? - How are you? 91 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:36,857 You are also expecting. 92 00:02:36,923 --> 00:02:37,958 Congratulations. - Yes. 93 00:02:38,025 --> 00:02:38,959 Thank you. 94 00:02:39,026 --> 00:02:39,960 - You are due when? 95 00:02:40,027 --> 00:02:41,595 - Labor Day. 96 00:02:41,662 --> 00:02:42,896 - Labor Day? - Yeah. 97 00:02:42,963 --> 00:02:44,131 - Wow. 98 00:02:44,197 --> 00:02:45,766 And finally, good news comes in threes. 99 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:48,835 Congratulations are also in order to Andrea and Lexi, 100 00:02:48,902 --> 00:02:50,003 who are expecting a baby girl. 101 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:51,004 Congratulations. 102 00:02:51,071 --> 00:02:52,039 - Nice to see you, Andy. 103 00:02:52,105 --> 00:02:53,040 It's been a while. 104 00:02:53,106 --> 00:02:54,041 - When are you due? 105 00:02:54,107 --> 00:02:55,275 - September 2. 106 00:02:55,342 --> 00:02:56,476 - Wow! 107 00:02:56,543 --> 00:02:57,511 I mean, this is-- - Boom, boom, boom. 108 00:02:57,577 --> 00:02:58,512 - Within a week. 109 00:02:58,578 --> 00:02:59,880 - Yep. - Wow. 110 00:02:59,946 --> 00:03:01,515 - Yeah, we're all within a week of each other. 111 00:03:01,581 --> 00:03:02,983 - Oh, my god. - Lots of labor. 112 00:03:03,050 --> 00:03:05,652 - I guess that means the prosciutto method works. 113 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:06,987 - That's a good method. 114 00:03:07,054 --> 00:03:08,188 - He lifts you up. - That's my move. 115 00:03:08,255 --> 00:03:09,189 - Yeah. 116 00:03:09,256 --> 00:03:10,624 - Semi off the ground. 117 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:11,825 - Like a prosciutto. 118 00:03:11,892 --> 00:03:13,093 It's easy. 119 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,828 You just grab her from the legs, and make sure 120 00:03:14,895 --> 00:03:16,029 it goes straight. 121 00:03:16,096 --> 00:03:18,131 - Our daughter is gonna see this. 122 00:03:18,198 --> 00:03:19,933 - All right, well, let's get into it. 123 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,069 As the entire world knows by now, 124 00:03:22,135 --> 00:03:24,738 after Kyle and Amanda's marriage went south, 125 00:03:24,805 --> 00:03:27,874 Amanda found herself swerving West. 126 00:03:27,941 --> 00:03:31,211 There's been a ton of online speculation about where 127 00:03:31,278 --> 00:03:32,446 you two stand today. 128 00:03:32,512 --> 00:03:34,981 So let me just start there and get an update. 129 00:03:35,048 --> 00:03:35,982 How are things going? 130 00:03:36,049 --> 00:03:37,617 I know you were just in Italy. 131 00:03:37,684 --> 00:03:38,985 - Yes. 132 00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:43,323 - And, you know, this video or a picture of you 133 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:45,325 spitting in his mouth was everywhere. 134 00:03:45,392 --> 00:03:46,827 - It was an olive. - It was an olive, OK. 135 00:03:46,893 --> 00:03:48,295 - Yes. I wasn't spitting in his mouth. 136 00:03:48,361 --> 00:03:49,296 - OK. 137 00:03:49,362 --> 00:03:50,430 - Yeah. 138 00:03:50,497 --> 00:03:52,666 - I got a lot of heat for only asking 139 00:03:52,732 --> 00:03:55,669 West if he was on a beta blocker at the reunion. 140 00:03:55,736 --> 00:03:56,736 - Yes. 141 00:03:56,803 --> 00:03:58,338 - There was a lot of people wanted 142 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:05,412 me to ask if you were, you know, disengaged chemically. 143 00:04:06,513 --> 00:04:07,547 - No. 144 00:04:07,614 --> 00:04:10,083 I did-- I was on a beta blocker as well. 145 00:04:10,150 --> 00:04:12,285 But that's not why I was disengaged. 146 00:04:12,352 --> 00:04:16,022 I think after a while, I think people can see also, you know, 147 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:17,824 when Kyle and I have had arguments, 148 00:04:17,891 --> 00:04:22,028 my defense mechanism is to just shut down and dissociate. 149 00:04:22,095 --> 00:04:24,331 That wasn't because of medication. 150 00:04:24,397 --> 00:04:26,466 - We have heard from Kyle, Amanda, and Lindsay 151 00:04:26,533 --> 00:04:27,868 at the "Summer House" reunion. 152 00:04:27,934 --> 00:04:31,104 I'm curious for the rest of you in the group 153 00:04:31,171 --> 00:04:33,073 if anyone had a reaction or were 154 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:36,843 you surprised about Amanda and West 155 00:04:36,910 --> 00:04:38,778 announcing that they were giving it a shot. 156 00:04:38,845 --> 00:04:39,813 - Yes. - Yes. 157 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,081 - Yes. - Yes. 158 00:04:41,148 --> 00:04:42,449 - Shocked. - Shocked? 159 00:04:42,516 --> 00:04:43,683 - Shocked. - I didn't believe it. 160 00:04:43,750 --> 00:04:45,051 I thought-- - Disappointed. 161 00:04:45,118 --> 00:04:46,052 - Mm-hmm. 162 00:04:46,119 --> 00:04:47,420 - Why? 163 00:04:47,487 --> 00:04:49,689 - I think because of the way it all unfolded. 164 00:04:49,756 --> 00:04:53,593 The friendships that were broken apart because of it. 165 00:04:53,660 --> 00:04:58,598 And then I just-- honestly, I hate that you kind of doubled 166 00:04:58,665 --> 00:05:01,134 down and you're pursuing this relationship with him 167 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:02,936 all the way, you know, going to Italy. 168 00:05:03,003 --> 00:05:05,405 I know that you had to make a decision one way or the other. 169 00:05:05,472 --> 00:05:08,542 I just wish for you, that you would take 170 00:05:08,608 --> 00:05:09,843 some time just for yourself. 171 00:05:09,910 --> 00:05:11,144 Be alone. 172 00:05:11,211 --> 00:05:13,180 - What's your reaction to her disappointment? 173 00:05:13,246 --> 00:05:14,681 - No, I understand. 174 00:05:14,748 --> 00:05:18,685 I think and I know the way that I handled things and went about 175 00:05:18,752 --> 00:05:21,121 the whole situation was wrong. 176 00:05:21,188 --> 00:05:24,724 And you can't go back and change it. 177 00:05:24,791 --> 00:05:27,194 - But you can a little. 178 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:30,931 - I can't go back and change the fact that I wasn't honest 179 00:05:30,997 --> 00:05:35,035 and, you know, and hid things and lied. 180 00:05:35,101 --> 00:05:39,673 - I'm curious, have y'all hung out with Amanda and West yet? 181 00:05:39,739 --> 00:05:41,408 Anyone here in this group? - No. 182 00:05:41,474 --> 00:05:42,642 - No? 183 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:45,679 Gavin, have they turned up at any of your bars? 184 00:05:45,745 --> 00:05:46,780 - They know better than that. 185 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:48,048 [laughter] 186 00:05:48,114 --> 00:05:49,583 - What would you do? 187 00:05:49,649 --> 00:05:51,384 - What would happen if they turned up at one of your bars? 188 00:05:51,451 --> 00:05:52,586 - Cut, cut. 189 00:05:52,652 --> 00:05:53,854 - Rejected at the door. 190 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,854 - Those two. 191 00:05:54,921 --> 00:05:55,956 - No. 192 00:05:56,022 --> 00:05:57,657 Amanda, she would never do that. 193 00:05:57,724 --> 00:05:58,892 - Yeah, no. 194 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:01,528 I mean, we're not going out much in general, so. 195 00:06:01,595 --> 00:06:03,163 - Are you two monogamous now? 196 00:06:03,230 --> 00:06:04,164 - Yes. 197 00:06:04,231 --> 00:06:06,600 - Are you in love? 198 00:06:06,666 --> 00:06:09,603 - That's-- it's a weird question to answer. 199 00:06:09,669 --> 00:06:11,271 - Do you say, I love you? 200 00:06:11,338 --> 00:06:12,272 - Not really. 201 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:13,506 - Not really? 202 00:06:13,573 --> 00:06:14,507 - Have you ever? 203 00:06:14,574 --> 00:06:17,744 - No. 204 00:06:17,811 --> 00:06:19,212 - "Love ya" counts. 205 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,714 - Yeah, ILY. 206 00:06:20,780 --> 00:06:21,715 [chuckles] 207 00:06:21,781 --> 00:06:23,149 - Oh! 208 00:06:23,216 --> 00:06:24,884 - As you look back on the reunion, did you watch it? 209 00:06:24,951 --> 00:06:25,886 - I lived it. 210 00:06:25,952 --> 00:06:27,087 I didn't-- I have not. 211 00:06:27,153 --> 00:06:28,588 - OK. 212 00:06:28,655 --> 00:06:33,560 Did you-- when you left, did you leave feeling that there 213 00:06:33,627 --> 00:06:35,295 was nothing left unsaid? 214 00:06:35,362 --> 00:06:38,031 Or were you-- like, were you disappointed 215 00:06:38,098 --> 00:06:39,165 in your performance? 216 00:06:39,232 --> 00:06:40,467 Were you fine with it? 217 00:06:40,533 --> 00:06:41,668 How did you-- 218 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:43,570 - For sure disappointed in my performance. 219 00:06:43,637 --> 00:06:46,172 You know, I definitely wanted to come in and 220 00:06:46,239 --> 00:06:50,110 be able to apologize and provide more clarity 221 00:06:50,176 --> 00:06:54,214 and come off as sad and like-- 222 00:06:54,281 --> 00:06:56,483 not me not hurt, but upset about how 223 00:06:56,549 --> 00:06:58,084 I've hurt other people. 224 00:06:58,151 --> 00:07:03,290 And I think the energy, I went into defense mode. 225 00:07:03,356 --> 00:07:04,791 And that's not to blame anyone. 226 00:07:04,858 --> 00:07:06,526 I understand where everyone was coming from. 227 00:07:06,593 --> 00:07:10,797 But my natural instinct was to get defensive. 228 00:07:10,864 --> 00:07:13,667 And I don't love the way that I handled myself at all. 229 00:07:13,733 --> 00:07:15,235 - You wish you had not gotten defensive? 230 00:07:15,302 --> 00:07:16,369 - Yeah. - Yeah. 231 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:17,871 - Not at all. - I don't know West. 232 00:07:17,938 --> 00:07:18,938 I do care about you. 233 00:07:19,005 --> 00:07:20,840 And I've known you for a long time. 234 00:07:20,907 --> 00:07:23,543 But he seems like the things that you 235 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:27,814 were most upset with Kyle about, like, 10 times worse. 236 00:07:27,881 --> 00:07:30,450 - That's not what I've been experiencing whatsoever. 237 00:07:30,517 --> 00:07:31,785 And on the flip side, I'm actually 238 00:07:31,851 --> 00:07:33,586 getting from him things that I felt 239 00:07:33,653 --> 00:07:36,690 I was lacking in my relationship with Kyle, so-- 240 00:07:36,756 --> 00:07:37,824 - Like what? 241 00:07:37,891 --> 00:07:40,026 - Just someone that's been, like, 242 00:07:40,093 --> 00:07:43,730 supportive, that I feel like-- 243 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:45,398 like, like-- 244 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:46,766 - Let me know when he does your taxes, 245 00:07:46,833 --> 00:07:48,068 negotiates your brand deals. - You feel built up? 246 00:07:48,134 --> 00:07:49,269 - I feel-- I do-- - Make your bed. 247 00:07:49,336 --> 00:07:50,270 Like-- 248 00:07:50,337 --> 00:07:51,271 - I feel-- 249 00:07:51,338 --> 00:07:52,439 - How did I not support you? 250 00:07:52,505 --> 00:07:53,974 - I didn't say you don't support me. 251 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,476 But towards the end of our relationship, 252 00:07:56,543 --> 00:07:58,044 there were things that were missing. 253 00:07:58,111 --> 00:08:01,281 Not the whole time, but there were things that were lacking. 254 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:03,416 - To this day, I'm still doing things to help you. 255 00:08:03,483 --> 00:08:06,786 So it's just-- it still hurts when you say things like that. 256 00:08:06,853 --> 00:08:08,555 I understand our marriage is not perfect. 257 00:08:08,621 --> 00:08:10,523 I understand there's a lot missing. 258 00:08:10,590 --> 00:08:12,859 I don't think support was-- 259 00:08:12,926 --> 00:08:15,495 - The way that he, like, talks to me and tells me. 260 00:08:15,562 --> 00:08:18,264 Like, it's just his actions, just the way-- 261 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:19,699 it's just-- it's different. 262 00:08:19,766 --> 00:08:20,700 And-- 263 00:08:20,767 --> 00:08:22,168 - Well, I mean, yeah. 264 00:08:22,235 --> 00:08:25,505 He's-- yeah, anyway. 265 00:08:25,572 --> 00:08:27,140 I hope you understand that everything 266 00:08:27,207 --> 00:08:29,175 that everybody here is saying is because they care about you. 267 00:08:29,242 --> 00:08:30,176 - I know that. 268 00:08:30,243 --> 00:08:32,412 - You have people in your-- 269 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:34,114 I just don't want you to turn your back. 270 00:08:34,180 --> 00:08:35,348 And I know it's tough to sit here and 271 00:08:35,415 --> 00:08:37,350 do this all over again, take the criticism. 272 00:08:37,417 --> 00:08:38,585 And it's a lose-lose. 273 00:08:38,651 --> 00:08:40,053 Like, you're coming into the other reunion. 274 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,221 There's nothing you're going to say 275 00:08:41,287 --> 00:08:42,222 that's going to make it right. 276 00:08:42,288 --> 00:08:43,356 - I know. 277 00:08:43,423 --> 00:08:44,424 - And similar today, so I give you 278 00:08:44,491 --> 00:08:46,459 credit for taking it on the chin, 279 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:48,995 and it's not the first time he's 280 00:08:49,062 --> 00:08:52,465 said the right thing to somebody to wrap 281 00:08:52,532 --> 00:08:53,600 them around his finger. 282 00:08:53,666 --> 00:08:55,668 - Kyle, you've been very dignified 283 00:08:55,735 --> 00:08:56,669 throughout this whole thing. 284 00:08:56,736 --> 00:08:57,904 - No, Kyle's been-- 285 00:08:57,971 --> 00:08:58,972 - --continued to be amazed by how your-- 286 00:08:59,038 --> 00:08:59,973 - --the best. - --support-- 287 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,974 - Yeah. - It's a testament to-- 288 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,208 - Yeah. 289 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:05,478 I'm wondering, what was your perspective 290 00:09:05,545 --> 00:09:09,983 about Kyle's conversation with West, and in general, 291 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:12,052 his level of support for you? 292 00:09:12,118 --> 00:09:14,888 - I mean, I'm eternally grateful for Kyle. 293 00:09:14,954 --> 00:09:19,159 I think it just shows how much we do have love for each other 294 00:09:19,225 --> 00:09:20,560 and I think it's something that we've made 295 00:09:20,627 --> 00:09:21,828 clear from the very beginning. 296 00:09:21,895 --> 00:09:23,797 Unfortunately, like, we could not communicate, 297 00:09:23,863 --> 00:09:25,298 we could not get along in our marriage, 298 00:09:25,365 --> 00:09:27,400 but that doesn't take away from the friendship and the love 299 00:09:27,467 --> 00:09:29,602 that we've had for each other this whole time. 300 00:09:29,669 --> 00:09:32,005 Which is also why, when we first separated, 301 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:34,774 I was always standing up for him too, because I didn't 302 00:09:34,841 --> 00:09:37,243 want people to attack him. 303 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:39,946 And I'm just really appreciative that he's 304 00:09:40,013 --> 00:09:42,615 been there for me as well, because if anyone 305 00:09:42,682 --> 00:09:47,187 knows each other better, it's the two of us. 306 00:09:47,253 --> 00:09:50,123 So I've been very grateful to have him. 307 00:09:50,190 --> 00:09:54,494 - I don't know any other way, so it's-- 308 00:09:54,561 --> 00:09:55,695 It's been a ride. 309 00:09:55,762 --> 00:09:57,263 - Yeah. 310 00:09:59,332 --> 00:10:00,700 - Coming up. 311 00:10:00,767 --> 00:10:01,534 - When I can finish-- - There was a period of time. 312 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:03,236 - --let me know. 313 00:10:03,303 --> 00:10:04,504 - You just talk over everyone. 314 00:10:04,571 --> 00:10:05,505 Let someone else speak. 315 00:10:05,572 --> 00:10:06,506 - --sitting here screaming. 316 00:10:06,573 --> 00:10:10,009 [audio logo] 317 00:10:11,978 --> 00:10:14,047 [music playing] 318 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:16,049 ♪ ♪ 319 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:17,684 - OK, we are back. 320 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:21,821 So, what's it like hanging out with single Kyle now, folks? 321 00:10:21,888 --> 00:10:22,822 Kenny? 322 00:10:22,889 --> 00:10:24,057 [laughter] 323 00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:25,492 - When he's not making out with somebody? 324 00:10:25,558 --> 00:10:28,361 - With all due, is single Kyle that different-- 325 00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:29,362 - Not at all. 326 00:10:29,429 --> 00:10:30,363 - --from married Kyle? 327 00:10:30,430 --> 00:10:32,065 - Kyle is true to himself. 328 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:33,500 - I don't have, like, this guilt trip-- 329 00:10:33,566 --> 00:10:34,767 - Yeah. - --hanging over my head. 330 00:10:34,834 --> 00:10:35,869 - He's just more public with his makeouts now. 331 00:10:35,935 --> 00:10:36,970 - Kyle is going to be Kyle. - Yeah. 332 00:10:37,036 --> 00:10:37,904 - And I love hearing about them. 333 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:38,872 - Are you just being recorded? 334 00:10:39,939 --> 00:10:41,140 - Do you care if-- - I think it was-- 335 00:10:41,207 --> 00:10:41,941 - --you see him making out-- - --years ago. 336 00:10:42,008 --> 00:10:42,876 - --with someone now? 337 00:10:42,942 --> 00:10:44,144 - It wasn't as much years ago. 338 00:10:44,210 --> 00:10:47,413 No, I think I mourned most of our relationship 339 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,416 when I was still in it, which is why I think I was so cold 340 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:52,619 and closed off towards the end of it, 341 00:10:52,685 --> 00:10:54,654 because I was coming to terms that it 342 00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:56,556 wasn't going to continue. 343 00:10:56,623 --> 00:10:59,092 And now, like, he tells me about make outs that he has 344 00:10:59,158 --> 00:11:00,193 and we laugh about it. 345 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:01,494 Or like, I'll call him and be like, 346 00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:03,096 I saw you kissing Meghan on your tippy toes. 347 00:11:03,162 --> 00:11:04,497 What was that? - Not my tippy toes. 348 00:11:04,564 --> 00:11:06,099 - He wasn't on his tippy toes. - Not my tippy toes. 349 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:07,567 - He was not on his tippy toes. 350 00:11:07,634 --> 00:11:10,069 - And at our premiere party, we have a laugh about it. 351 00:11:10,136 --> 00:11:11,538 And then, yeah, at our premiere party. 352 00:11:11,604 --> 00:11:13,306 - He was telling Amanda-- 353 00:11:13,373 --> 00:11:14,307 Kyle was telling Amanda-- 354 00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:15,575 - How he has sober sex. 355 00:11:15,642 --> 00:11:16,676 - And she was saying, I'm so proud of you. 356 00:11:16,743 --> 00:11:17,677 - What? - She had tears in her eyes. 357 00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:18,678 - Yeah. 358 00:11:18,745 --> 00:11:19,879 I don't know how that came about. 359 00:11:21,047 --> 00:11:21,848 - I was like, What is going on right now? 360 00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:22,815 - Who's having sober sex? 361 00:11:22,882 --> 00:11:23,750 You're having sober sex? - Yeah. 362 00:11:23,816 --> 00:11:25,051 And Amanda was so proud. 363 00:11:25,118 --> 00:11:26,186 - I guess I was trying to make a point, but-- 364 00:11:26,252 --> 00:11:27,420 - Kyle McGill-- - --I forget my point. 365 00:11:27,487 --> 00:11:28,922 - Like, how do you know you're over somebody 366 00:11:28,988 --> 00:11:31,224 when you're proud I them that they're having sober sex? 367 00:11:31,291 --> 00:11:34,060 - Part of me wonders if you are fully allowing 368 00:11:34,127 --> 00:11:35,695 yourself to process this. 369 00:11:35,762 --> 00:11:37,030 The way you're showing up for her, 370 00:11:37,096 --> 00:11:39,432 the way that you guys are still so friendly, 371 00:11:39,499 --> 00:11:42,268 given the level of betrayal here. 372 00:11:42,335 --> 00:11:44,504 It's like, are you allowing yourself-- 373 00:11:44,571 --> 00:11:45,705 - Well, I didn't betray-- --to process? 374 00:11:45,772 --> 00:11:46,739 - We were-- - Here's the hero. 375 00:11:46,806 --> 00:11:48,107 - --way separated before. 376 00:11:48,174 --> 00:11:50,210 There was no betrayal. 377 00:11:50,276 --> 00:11:51,644 Like, I didn't cheat on Kyle. 378 00:11:51,711 --> 00:11:52,845 I didn't have an affair. 379 00:11:52,912 --> 00:11:54,881 There was no crossover, overlap. 380 00:11:54,948 --> 00:11:56,649 Like, our marriage was done. 381 00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:57,650 - Oh, it did hurt to hear-- 382 00:11:57,717 --> 00:11:58,751 I mean, like, to this day-- 383 00:11:58,818 --> 00:11:59,819 - Of course, it hurt. 384 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:01,754 - Look, the only thing I'll say is, 385 00:12:01,821 --> 00:12:04,490 the thing that I can't compute is our statement 386 00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:05,992 comes out the 19th. 387 00:12:06,059 --> 00:12:09,729 There's two weekends between the 19th and the Super Bowl and 388 00:12:09,796 --> 00:12:12,432 everybody talks about the Super Bowl being that 389 00:12:12,498 --> 00:12:13,566 point in time where West-- 390 00:12:13,633 --> 00:12:14,467 - Which doesn't make-- - --said that-- 391 00:12:14,534 --> 00:12:15,468 - --sense to me-- 392 00:12:15,535 --> 00:12:16,669 - --you guys were an item. 393 00:12:17,704 --> 00:12:18,271 - --because we weren't an item at all. 394 00:12:18,338 --> 00:12:19,806 We were texting. 395 00:12:19,872 --> 00:12:21,241 - Then take it up with him, because he's out there running 396 00:12:21,307 --> 00:12:22,108 his mouth before, apparently, you guys were an item, 397 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:23,109 saying you were an item. 398 00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:24,244 - Yeah, again-- 399 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:25,612 - Which again, like, what's his MO? 400 00:12:25,678 --> 00:12:27,447 I don't know. - Don't know. 401 00:12:27,513 --> 00:12:28,881 - I only bring that up because I am still-- 402 00:12:28,948 --> 00:12:31,250 Like, there's still stuff that I am processing. 403 00:12:31,317 --> 00:12:34,187 - Who do you feel more betrayed by, West or Amanda? 404 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:35,722 - West. 405 00:12:35,788 --> 00:12:42,562 Because we were boys and we were done with our-- 406 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:46,966 - You made out with someone before I was even texting 407 00:12:47,033 --> 00:12:50,069 West in any sort of way. 408 00:12:50,136 --> 00:12:51,838 - The night before our premiere party in February? 409 00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:52,839 - Yeah. 410 00:12:52,905 --> 00:12:54,907 So, like, Kyle was done. 411 00:12:54,974 --> 00:12:56,643 - He was making out with Sally-- 412 00:12:56,709 --> 00:12:58,011 - Yeah. 413 00:12:58,077 --> 00:13:00,380 - --the night before the "Summer House" premiere. 414 00:13:00,446 --> 00:13:02,248 - My point is, Kyle wasn't, like, in his bed 415 00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:04,384 crying about the marriage. 416 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:05,952 Like, Kyle was, like, enjoying his freedom. 417 00:13:06,019 --> 00:13:07,120 - Right. 418 00:13:07,186 --> 00:13:09,956 - And are you in Sally hanging out? 419 00:13:10,023 --> 00:13:12,959 - I was just in Charleston. 420 00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:14,661 Austin threw a nice little party. 421 00:13:14,727 --> 00:13:16,162 - And what happened? - We hung out. 422 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,163 - Yes. 423 00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:19,032 - Yes, we hooked up. - OK. 424 00:13:19,098 --> 00:13:20,500 - And there's nothing wrong with that, 425 00:13:20,566 --> 00:13:21,834 and I didn't have an issue-- - Did you have sober sex? 426 00:13:21,901 --> 00:13:23,536 - --with it the first time I heard about it either. 427 00:13:23,603 --> 00:13:24,570 - Was it sober? 428 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:27,040 - Your-- your reaction-- 429 00:13:27,106 --> 00:13:28,041 Kyle, your reaction-- 430 00:13:28,107 --> 00:13:29,342 - No, it's prosciutto. 431 00:13:29,409 --> 00:13:30,343 It's the prosciutto. 432 00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:31,344 - Lawnmower? 433 00:13:31,411 --> 00:13:32,445 - The wheelbarrow. 434 00:13:32,512 --> 00:13:33,880 - Wheelbarrow. 435 00:13:33,946 --> 00:13:38,751 - So since nothing happens outside the Bravo sphere, 436 00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:42,055 we've got LaLa from The Valley saying 437 00:13:42,121 --> 00:13:43,523 that she heard on good authority 438 00:13:43,589 --> 00:13:45,591 that you are great in bed. 439 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:48,127 - Yeah, I woke up to some texts from, like, 440 00:13:48,194 --> 00:13:50,496 TMZ and Page Six asking for comment. 441 00:13:50,563 --> 00:13:52,632 I was like, this is one time I would like to comment. 442 00:13:52,699 --> 00:13:53,700 [laughter] 443 00:13:53,766 --> 00:13:55,134 - But how would people know that? 444 00:13:55,201 --> 00:13:56,769 So how many people are you sleeping with and how soon 445 00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:57,870 after-- - No, it was Sally. 446 00:13:57,937 --> 00:13:59,472 - OK. - It was Sally. 447 00:13:59,539 --> 00:14:00,673 - Just Sally. 448 00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:02,108 - She had told LaLa, because, I guess, 449 00:14:02,175 --> 00:14:03,276 they had recorded a podcast. 450 00:14:03,342 --> 00:14:05,812 - What were you guys doing in bed? 451 00:14:05,878 --> 00:14:08,014 - Having sober sex, Amanda. 452 00:14:08,081 --> 00:14:09,415 What are you doing in bed? 453 00:14:09,482 --> 00:14:11,150 - Wait, was the sober sex person her? 454 00:14:11,217 --> 00:14:12,452 - No, no, no. - Oh. 455 00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:13,453 - No, no, no. 456 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:14,754 - TBD. 457 00:14:14,821 --> 00:14:17,156 - One was my age, one was 10 years younger, 458 00:14:17,223 --> 00:14:19,792 but reads at an older level. 459 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:22,395 - He certainly was not on his tippies. 460 00:14:22,462 --> 00:14:23,996 He was not on his tippies, I'll tell you that. 461 00:14:24,063 --> 00:14:25,798 - And I found a bra. Yeah. 462 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:26,933 No, it's fine. 463 00:14:26,999 --> 00:14:28,468 We are able to laugh about it. 464 00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:29,702 - Well, I should hope so. 465 00:14:29,769 --> 00:14:31,537 - I feel like that means it's been over for-- 466 00:14:31,604 --> 00:14:33,106 - Well, I want to put a pin in this, 467 00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:36,576 and we are going to get more into Kyle and Amanda's marriage 468 00:14:36,642 --> 00:14:37,744 a little later. 469 00:14:37,810 --> 00:14:39,479 Well, these days, getting activated 470 00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:41,514 looks a lot different for Lindsay Hubbard. 471 00:14:41,581 --> 00:14:43,349 This new mom found herself sandwiched 472 00:14:43,416 --> 00:14:46,519 between a baby, a core group of New York City girlfriends, 473 00:14:46,586 --> 00:14:50,423 and an utterly unpredictable love life. 474 00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:53,025 Andrea, it was very entertaining to see 475 00:14:53,092 --> 00:14:56,596 how giddy you got trying to set Lindsay up. 476 00:14:56,662 --> 00:14:58,898 Have you been on the hunt for her since then? 477 00:14:58,965 --> 00:15:01,300 - Oh, she's still going decently 478 00:15:01,367 --> 00:15:03,269 strong with Mr. Milkman. 479 00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:04,270 - Are you? 480 00:15:04,337 --> 00:15:05,271 - Yeah. 481 00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:06,406 - They're very cute together. 482 00:15:06,472 --> 00:15:07,974 - I met Frank-- 483 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,308 - Tell me how you really feel? You have no idea. 484 00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:10,743 - --when he was dating Kelly Dodd. 485 00:15:10,810 --> 00:15:11,978 - I know. 486 00:15:12,044 --> 00:15:12,979 - He loves reality stars. 487 00:15:13,045 --> 00:15:14,781 - The Bravo world is so small. 488 00:15:14,847 --> 00:15:16,149 - I mean-- 489 00:15:16,215 --> 00:15:18,985 - I'm not in a place right now where I'm looking 490 00:15:19,051 --> 00:15:23,990 for a serious relationship. 491 00:15:24,056 --> 00:15:25,258 I really just am not. 492 00:15:25,324 --> 00:15:26,325 I think the last-- 493 00:15:26,392 --> 00:15:27,393 - You're focused on your daughter. 494 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:29,061 - Yeah. And work. 495 00:15:29,128 --> 00:15:30,062 Daughter and work. 496 00:15:30,129 --> 00:15:31,464 - And co-parenting. 497 00:15:31,531 --> 00:15:35,902 - And if-- dating has to be fun for me, and I just 498 00:15:35,968 --> 00:15:38,204 am not ready to settle down. 499 00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:42,241 The last two partners that I decided were going to be 500 00:15:42,308 --> 00:15:43,976 my partners, didn't work out. 501 00:15:44,043 --> 00:15:46,179 So I really am taking my time when 502 00:15:46,245 --> 00:15:48,247 it comes to that big decision. 503 00:15:48,314 --> 00:15:49,816 - Co-parenting is going well? 504 00:15:49,882 --> 00:15:51,350 - He's a great father. 505 00:15:51,417 --> 00:15:52,552 - Is he dating anyone? 506 00:15:52,618 --> 00:15:53,686 - I hope so. 507 00:15:53,753 --> 00:15:54,921 - You hope so, but you don't know? 508 00:15:54,987 --> 00:15:56,355 - Wait, you don't talk? 509 00:15:56,422 --> 00:15:58,024 - It makes everyone nicer when they're getting laid. 510 00:15:58,090 --> 00:15:59,091 - That is true. - Look at Kyle. 511 00:15:59,158 --> 00:16:00,159 He's-- He's glowing. 512 00:16:00,226 --> 00:16:01,661 [laughter] 513 00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:05,031 - Danielle, what do you think of Frank and Dustin 514 00:16:05,097 --> 00:16:07,366 as potential mates for Lindsay? 515 00:16:07,433 --> 00:16:09,202 - I'm not going to comment on Lindsay's 516 00:16:09,268 --> 00:16:10,803 relationships anymore. 517 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:12,371 [laughter] 518 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,809 [audio logo] 519 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:17,710 [audio logo] 520 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:18,811 [music playing] 521 00:16:18,878 --> 00:16:21,280 ♪ ♪ 522 00:16:21,347 --> 00:16:24,083 - We are back with the "In The City" Reunion. 523 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:27,954 Georgina and Yvonne, what kind of guy do you see Lindsay with? 524 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:29,188 - Oh my God. 525 00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:31,958 - I see Lindsay with somebody ambitious. 526 00:16:32,024 --> 00:16:34,393 So Frank did check that box. 527 00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:36,762 But I also see Lindsay with somebody who doesn't 528 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:38,564 take himself very seriously. 529 00:16:38,631 --> 00:16:39,832 Honestly, I think Dustin would have 530 00:16:39,899 --> 00:16:41,534 been a great match if he lived here, because he 531 00:16:41,601 --> 00:16:42,902 kind of checks those boxes. 532 00:16:42,969 --> 00:16:44,136 Obviously, he's handsome. 533 00:16:44,203 --> 00:16:45,938 She needs somebody good looking and 534 00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:48,040 somebody who's really confident and secure 535 00:16:48,107 --> 00:16:50,243 and is not going to be intimidated by the fact 536 00:16:50,309 --> 00:16:53,479 that she doesn't need him, she just wants him. 537 00:16:53,546 --> 00:16:55,481 - And I think someone who prioritizes 538 00:16:55,548 --> 00:16:57,583 Lindsay and values you. 539 00:16:57,650 --> 00:17:01,320 I think I'm still skeptical of Frank, 540 00:17:01,387 --> 00:17:04,757 but I would love to see you with someone else. 541 00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:06,192 But he's fun for now. 542 00:17:06,259 --> 00:17:07,460 - Yeah. 543 00:17:07,526 --> 00:17:08,761 - She's right about that part related to Frank. 544 00:17:08,828 --> 00:17:09,762 - [laughing] 545 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:10,963 - He should be more available. 546 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:12,398 - More available. - But I was-- 547 00:17:12,465 --> 00:17:13,866 - Frank has just been the fling category-- 548 00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:15,268 - He's very fun, though. - --not the ring category. 549 00:17:15,334 --> 00:17:16,269 - He's very fun. - There's something missing. 550 00:17:16,335 --> 00:17:17,536 - I won't allow it. 551 00:17:17,603 --> 00:17:18,471 - There's something we don't know about Frank. 552 00:17:19,105 --> 00:17:20,373 - He's very cute. 553 00:17:20,439 --> 00:17:21,307 - Danielle, what do you think of Frank and Dustin 554 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,876 as potential mates for Lindsay? 555 00:17:23,943 --> 00:17:25,878 - I-- I-- I'm not going to comment 556 00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:27,947 on Lindsay's relationships anymore. 557 00:17:28,014 --> 00:17:28,948 [laughter] 558 00:17:29,015 --> 00:17:30,016 - You've learned your lesson. 559 00:17:30,082 --> 00:17:31,017 - Yes, I've learned-- 560 00:17:31,083 --> 00:17:32,418 I've learned several lessons. 561 00:17:32,485 --> 00:17:36,422 I-- I do think that what Georgina and Yvonne is-- 562 00:17:36,489 --> 00:17:38,758 said is spot on, I mean, perhaps, like, 563 00:17:38,824 --> 00:17:41,027 a little bit more grounded and ready for-- for someone 564 00:17:41,093 --> 00:17:42,261 like her. 565 00:17:42,328 --> 00:17:43,696 - Georgina, are you currently seeing anyone? 566 00:17:43,763 --> 00:17:46,966 - No, but I've decided that that's my next chapter. 567 00:17:47,033 --> 00:17:48,200 - OK. 568 00:17:48,267 --> 00:17:49,902 - Well, you have your photos ready for Raya. 569 00:17:49,969 --> 00:17:51,704 - That's a big decision. - It is a big decision 570 00:17:51,771 --> 00:17:53,706 - Yeah. - It's hard with kids, but-- 571 00:17:53,773 --> 00:17:55,341 and I kind of didn't want to confuse them. 572 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:57,410 And then I am going to be dating-- actually, 573 00:17:57,476 --> 00:18:00,346 something Whitney and I spoke about-- intentionally, 574 00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:01,881 where it's not the same. 575 00:18:01,948 --> 00:18:03,649 It's not going to be just for fun. 576 00:18:03,716 --> 00:18:05,818 One of my patients and good friends 577 00:18:05,885 --> 00:18:06,819 actually said something to me. 578 00:18:06,886 --> 00:18:07,820 Because I was so cautious. 579 00:18:07,887 --> 00:18:08,821 I was like, I don't-- 580 00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:10,323 I don't know. 581 00:18:10,389 --> 00:18:11,924 I-- I was hoping it would still work out with their dad, 582 00:18:11,991 --> 00:18:13,960 to be honest, as pathetic as that sounds, 583 00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:15,461 just because then it's easier on them. 584 00:18:15,528 --> 00:18:16,762 But she said something. 585 00:18:16,829 --> 00:18:18,831 She said, you know, her parents split up 586 00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:19,832 when they were really young. 587 00:18:19,899 --> 00:18:21,801 And they both got remarried. 588 00:18:21,867 --> 00:18:23,302 And it was just more people to love her. 589 00:18:23,369 --> 00:18:24,303 - Aw. 590 00:18:24,370 --> 00:18:25,504 - And I love that. 591 00:18:25,571 --> 00:18:26,772 - That-- that's great. 592 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:27,873 - So that really, like, tipped me over, where 593 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,175 I was like, you know what? 594 00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:30,343 Another person to love my kids and love me-- 595 00:18:30,409 --> 00:18:31,444 - Yes. 596 00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:32,578 - --I think that would be fantastic. 597 00:18:32,645 --> 00:18:34,080 - Yes. - Yes. 598 00:18:34,146 --> 00:18:37,383 - Lindsay and Georgina, Ali W. emailed, 599 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:41,153 congratulations to Danielle, Yvonne and Lexi. 600 00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:42,855 Lindsay and Georgina, what's the best 601 00:18:42,922 --> 00:18:46,525 parenting advice you have to offer our soon-to-be moms? 602 00:18:46,592 --> 00:18:50,896 - My best advice is to just go with it. 603 00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:53,799 You cannot control how it's all going to go down, 604 00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:56,936 whether it's from the birth to after the birth, 605 00:18:57,003 --> 00:18:58,437 the postpartum. 606 00:18:58,504 --> 00:19:01,841 You just have to just move with the motions as they come. 607 00:19:01,907 --> 00:19:05,878 And make sure you have your support systems in-- in line, 608 00:19:05,945 --> 00:19:07,246 you know? 609 00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:10,483 And I'm here for all of you, including Danielle. 610 00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:11,884 - [laughing] 611 00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:14,954 - I think the best advice is give yourself grace. 612 00:19:15,021 --> 00:19:15,955 - Mm-hmm. 613 00:19:16,022 --> 00:19:17,656 - Give yourself love. 614 00:19:17,723 --> 00:19:19,158 If you need a minute, take a minute. 615 00:19:19,225 --> 00:19:21,927 I remember, you know, holding in my pee 616 00:19:21,994 --> 00:19:23,029 because my baby was crying. 617 00:19:23,095 --> 00:19:24,430 And it was in the morning. 618 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:26,232 And I, like, had to go to him and give him his bottle 619 00:19:26,298 --> 00:19:27,700 before I could even pee. 620 00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:30,536 And then with my second, I'm like, eh, she'll be fine. 621 00:19:30,603 --> 00:19:32,938 I can go to the bathroom, brush my teeth. 622 00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:35,274 So I wish I knew that the first time around. 623 00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:36,409 - Do what's best for you. 624 00:19:36,475 --> 00:19:37,743 - And your-- and your baby. 625 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:39,512 You know them better than anybody else ever will. 626 00:19:39,578 --> 00:19:40,513 - All right-- 627 00:19:40,579 --> 00:19:42,148 - Would you agree with that? 628 00:19:42,214 --> 00:19:43,582 - I would-- I would agree with that. 629 00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:44,583 - OK. 630 00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:45,584 - Yes. 631 00:19:45,651 --> 00:19:47,253 All right, let's switch gears. 632 00:19:47,319 --> 00:19:49,855 Kenny caught a lot of smoke for moving Whitney 633 00:19:49,922 --> 00:19:53,993 all the way to New York without giving her a ring or a closet. 634 00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:56,929 But rumors that Kenny and Whitney's relationship 635 00:19:56,996 --> 00:20:02,501 lacked a spark had this entire group all lit up. 636 00:20:02,568 --> 00:20:03,836 Watch this. 637 00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:06,172 - She moved across the country before the ring. 638 00:20:06,238 --> 00:20:08,574 You can't [muted] around with this, like, at all. 639 00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:10,009 - I'm getting I hate men vibes. 640 00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:12,044 - I'm just allergic to, like, annoying men. 641 00:20:12,111 --> 00:20:14,213 - Sometimes you-- you go in a relationship and you feel this 642 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,916 spark and this buzz and this fire, where you're like, 643 00:20:16,982 --> 00:20:18,050 this is my person. 644 00:20:18,117 --> 00:20:19,318 - Right. 645 00:20:19,385 --> 00:20:20,820 - And it's hard to know, for me, like, is the, 646 00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:22,455 like, this is the one and I know it 647 00:20:22,521 --> 00:20:23,856 for sure sparked spark there? 648 00:20:23,923 --> 00:20:25,091 - Yeah. 649 00:20:25,157 --> 00:20:28,060 - Kenny said that he's unsure if there's 650 00:20:28,127 --> 00:20:30,196 a spark between you guys. 651 00:20:30,262 --> 00:20:32,765 He might have used the word murky. 652 00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:34,433 - All I know is I had a birthday dinner yesterday. 653 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:37,703 And my girlfriend was upset because of the word murky. 654 00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:41,006 - Kyle said that you're doubting-- doubting the spark. 655 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:42,174 - Why is he running his mouth? 656 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,909 - But I'm not running my mouth! 657 00:20:43,976 --> 00:20:46,245 - I can't deal with a wall. 658 00:20:46,312 --> 00:20:49,582 - So Gabby from Houston, Texas on Threads 659 00:20:49,648 --> 00:20:52,218 said, Kenny, why is it so crazy for Lindsay 660 00:20:52,284 --> 00:20:54,754 to say to you that it's a big gesture for your girlfriend 661 00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:57,356 to move across the country from her friends without a ring? 662 00:20:57,423 --> 00:20:59,525 Do you not agree? 663 00:20:59,592 --> 00:21:01,293 - I agree, it's a big gesture. 664 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,295 She's projecting her situation onto my relationship. 665 00:21:03,362 --> 00:21:04,597 - What situation? - Let him finish. 666 00:21:04,663 --> 00:21:06,332 Let him finish. - She was very, like-- 667 00:21:06,398 --> 00:21:08,234 - Kenny, I think she was asking you a very-- 668 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:09,368 - Let him finish. - --basic question. 669 00:21:09,435 --> 00:21:10,302 - OK, let's let him-- - You know what? 670 00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:11,437 Let's let him finish. 671 00:21:11,504 --> 00:21:12,538 Let's-- please, let's let him finish. 672 00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:14,807 - OK, before the minions step in-- 673 00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:16,876 - How about we just say, yeah, it's a really big step. 674 00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:18,077 I'm so grateful she's here. 675 00:21:18,144 --> 00:21:19,411 - But I want to hear from Whitney. 676 00:21:19,478 --> 00:21:21,680 I want to know Whitney's reaction 677 00:21:21,747 --> 00:21:24,450 to watching back when Lindsey first grilled 678 00:21:24,517 --> 00:21:26,819 Kenny about your relationship. 679 00:21:26,886 --> 00:21:28,187 How did you take it? 680 00:21:28,254 --> 00:21:29,722 - I-- it felt very intense. 681 00:21:29,789 --> 00:21:34,426 I think, if you're saying it was, like, out of my best 682 00:21:34,493 --> 00:21:35,895 interest, you would have just, like, 683 00:21:35,961 --> 00:21:37,863 asked the questions, versus, like-- 684 00:21:37,930 --> 00:21:39,198 - I did ask the questions. 685 00:21:39,265 --> 00:21:41,500 - --insinu-- but you were insinuating judgment 686 00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:44,036 on the questions, versus just understanding 687 00:21:44,103 --> 00:21:45,504 and hearing his perspective. 688 00:21:45,571 --> 00:21:47,039 - I'm just asking questions. 689 00:21:47,106 --> 00:21:48,808 And as he's looking around, making 690 00:21:48,874 --> 00:21:50,643 sure you're not right there to make 691 00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:53,612 sure you don't know that he fucked around on you-- 692 00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:54,814 - I actually knew that. - --whenever. 693 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,182 - We talked about-- 694 00:21:56,248 --> 00:21:57,483 - We weren't together. - I'm paying attention. 695 00:21:57,550 --> 00:21:58,617 - Let's be very clear. 696 00:21:58,684 --> 00:21:59,718 - I'm paying attention to his friends. 697 00:21:59,785 --> 00:22:00,920 - We were not together. - That's OK. 698 00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:02,154 - OK, so let's not paint some picture. 699 00:22:02,221 --> 00:22:03,389 - I'm not even-- I'm not painting a picture. 700 00:22:03,455 --> 00:22:04,156 - I got out of an 11-year relationship, 701 00:22:04,223 --> 00:22:05,424 eight-year relationship. 702 00:22:05,491 --> 00:22:06,525 - OK, so when I can finish, let me know-- 703 00:22:06,592 --> 00:22:07,760 - And there was a period of time where-- 704 00:22:07,826 --> 00:22:08,394 there was a period of time-- - --gaslighter. 705 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:09,495 - --where-- 706 00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:10,396 - When I can finish, let me know. 707 00:22:10,462 --> 00:22:11,263 - --where we took a step apart. 708 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:13,866 And I was going through some very difficult family shit. 709 00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:14,934 - When I can finish, let me know. 710 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,168 - And I will let you know. 711 00:22:16,235 --> 00:22:17,536 But when you're going through something 712 00:22:17,603 --> 00:22:18,938 and you lose the only person in your life that-- 713 00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:20,706 - Misogynistic, narcissistic. - --literally-- 714 00:22:20,773 --> 00:22:22,441 - That is so not true. - What are you talking about? 715 00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:23,442 - Then let me know when I can finish. 716 00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:24,543 - I have to say-- 717 00:22:24,610 --> 00:22:25,644 - Well, you just talk over everyone. 718 00:22:26,312 --> 00:22:27,546 Let someone else speak. 719 00:22:27,613 --> 00:22:29,381 [music playing] 720 00:22:29,448 --> 00:22:30,516 ♪ ♪ 721 00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:31,750 - Coming up. 722 00:22:31,817 --> 00:22:34,420 - I think you were off-the-bat defensive. 723 00:22:34,486 --> 00:22:35,688 - As I should be. 724 00:22:35,754 --> 00:22:38,157 [audio logo] 725 00:22:38,224 --> 00:22:39,558 [music playing] 726 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,464 ♪ ♪ 727 00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:46,999 - When you're going through something 728 00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:49,134 and you lose the only person in your life that literally-- 729 00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:50,569 - Misogynistic, narcissistic. 730 00:22:50,636 --> 00:22:51,937 - That is so not true. - What are you talking about? 731 00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:52,938 - Then let me know when I can finish. 732 00:22:53,005 --> 00:22:54,039 - I have to-- I have to-- 733 00:22:54,106 --> 00:22:55,140 - Well, you just talk over everyone. 734 00:22:55,808 --> 00:22:57,076 Let someone else speak. 735 00:22:57,142 --> 00:22:57,977 - You're talking-- you're sitting here screaming. 736 00:22:58,043 --> 00:22:58,978 This has been the whole season. 737 00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:00,312 - OK, what do you want to say? 738 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,847 - I was making a point to Kenny, 739 00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:05,851 saying, wow, your girlfriend is committing hard to right now. 740 00:23:05,918 --> 00:23:07,886 And don't fuck around. 741 00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:09,855 That's me taking Whitney's side. 742 00:23:09,922 --> 00:23:12,524 That's me taking the perspective of the female 743 00:23:12,591 --> 00:23:15,628 to say, as you're looking around, talking about-- 744 00:23:15,694 --> 00:23:16,829 and your friends are saying that you 745 00:23:16,896 --> 00:23:19,665 are a fuckboy, like, my response 746 00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:21,166 is don't fuck around on her. 747 00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:23,235 She just moved across the country for you. 748 00:23:23,302 --> 00:23:27,473 I'm literally being a girl's girl to you, Whitney. 749 00:23:27,539 --> 00:23:28,974 That's what happened. 750 00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:30,809 And if you can't understand that, 751 00:23:30,876 --> 00:23:33,979 that's because you have a very different mindset 752 00:23:34,046 --> 00:23:35,648 as a male in this world. 753 00:23:35,714 --> 00:23:37,750 - OK, but can I just say something? 754 00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:39,918 It didn't seem to land with her that you were-- 755 00:23:39,985 --> 00:23:41,053 - No, because-- 756 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:41,920 - I feel like if you're a girl's girl, 757 00:23:41,987 --> 00:23:43,088 you would pull me aside-- 758 00:23:43,155 --> 00:23:43,889 - --she wasn't in that conversation. 759 00:23:43,956 --> 00:23:45,090 - I understand. 760 00:23:46,525 --> 00:23:47,793 But I just asked her what she thought when she watched it. 761 00:23:47,860 --> 00:23:49,795 And she's saying that she didn't take it that way. 762 00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:51,230 - Well, you know, me and Whitney 763 00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:52,431 are very different people. 764 00:23:52,498 --> 00:23:54,700 - Kenny, Amanda from Arizona on Threads 765 00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:56,869 said, how you going to go off on Lindsay when you straight 766 00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:58,504 up told Kyle you were questioning 767 00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:01,840 if there were sparks with Whitney in the first episode? 768 00:24:01,907 --> 00:24:03,876 Lindsay has you clocked. 769 00:24:03,942 --> 00:24:05,344 - We spoke about the fact that I had 770 00:24:05,411 --> 00:24:06,512 had an 11-year relationship. 771 00:24:06,578 --> 00:24:07,479 I had an eight-year relationship. 772 00:24:07,546 --> 00:24:08,647 I had just lost my mom. 773 00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:10,816 And I was in this place where I was 774 00:24:10,883 --> 00:24:15,154 feeling numb to long-term things working out. 775 00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:16,555 Like, I just wasn't feeling the spark when 776 00:24:16,622 --> 00:24:19,224 it comes to, like, long term. 777 00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:20,459 - OK. 778 00:24:20,526 --> 00:24:21,593 - And of course, it's unfortunate that-- 779 00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:22,895 - You were scared. 780 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,364 - I was grieving and I was trying to, like-- 781 00:24:25,431 --> 00:24:26,765 and be in the moment. 782 00:24:26,832 --> 00:24:28,767 But I was having, like, these doubts about long term, 783 00:24:28,834 --> 00:24:29,868 in general. 784 00:24:29,935 --> 00:24:31,970 And I said, I think it's a me thing, 785 00:24:32,037 --> 00:24:33,472 and I have to figure that out. 786 00:24:33,539 --> 00:24:35,507 - So Whitney, having watched the conversation where 787 00:24:35,574 --> 00:24:38,410 Kenny's concerns about your future as a couple, did they-- 788 00:24:38,477 --> 00:24:40,346 how did they land with you? 789 00:24:40,412 --> 00:24:43,282 - I had figured, like, when Lexi and Georgina, like, 790 00:24:43,349 --> 00:24:46,018 brought this, that I was in disbelief about it 791 00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:47,886 because we had had these conversations. 792 00:24:47,953 --> 00:24:51,123 But the words obviously, like, started ruminating, 793 00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:52,624 like, oh, my gosh, like, the weight 794 00:24:52,691 --> 00:24:53,892 of this move and whatever. 795 00:24:53,959 --> 00:24:56,228 And you see me get upset because the last thing 796 00:24:56,295 --> 00:24:58,530 I want to do is, like, miss something in a relationship. 797 00:24:58,597 --> 00:24:59,965 But all I had to do was go talk to him 798 00:25:00,032 --> 00:25:01,367 and, like, be reassured-- 799 00:25:01,433 --> 00:25:02,801 - If I can stand up for my boy for a second-- 800 00:25:02,868 --> 00:25:03,836 - --the feelings in the relationship. 801 00:25:03,902 --> 00:25:04,970 - And with a little bit of-- 802 00:25:05,037 --> 00:25:06,205 - Are you sure you want to do that? 803 00:25:06,271 --> 00:25:07,606 - I think you were, off the bat, defensive. 804 00:25:07,673 --> 00:25:08,607 - Yes. 805 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:09,675 And I should be. 806 00:25:09,742 --> 00:25:11,310 - And just as-- learn from Amanda. 807 00:25:11,377 --> 00:25:13,045 She just sat-- she just sat here and said she wishes 808 00:25:13,112 --> 00:25:14,146 she weren't as defensive. 809 00:25:14,213 --> 00:25:15,748 - Yeah, a lot of times, I feel like you 810 00:25:15,814 --> 00:25:16,749 were lacking explanation. - That would have helped. 811 00:25:16,815 --> 00:25:17,983 - That's the thing. 812 00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:19,218 That's why I said that you haven't been-- 813 00:25:19,284 --> 00:25:20,319 - If you had just owned it, less defensive. 814 00:25:20,386 --> 00:25:21,787 - --accountable on a lot of things. 815 00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:22,521 - No, but I don't think he was questioning the future. 816 00:25:22,588 --> 00:25:23,922 - No, but it's not-- 817 00:25:25,357 --> 00:25:26,392 - I think he was questioning, hey, like, I love her, but-- 818 00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:27,593 - But he said their future-- - Yeah. 819 00:25:27,659 --> 00:25:29,028 - There's a-- you know, am I at 100%? 820 00:25:29,094 --> 00:25:30,863 And I was-- and I was identifying with-- 821 00:25:30,929 --> 00:25:32,464 - I've been unsuccessful before. 822 00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:33,699 - Yeah. - Repeatedly. 823 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:34,700 - But nobody-- - And I just lost my mom. 824 00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:35,901 - Nobody's judging. 825 00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:37,136 - Why is that so hard to understand? 826 00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,637 - Nobody's judging. 827 00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:39,571 We're reacting to the words that came out of his mouth. 828 00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:40,939 - All right, I'm moving on. 829 00:25:41,006 --> 00:25:42,174 Gavin, Jennifer F on email, "I couldn't believe 830 00:25:43,308 --> 00:25:44,543 when you called Whitney boring to her face." 831 00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:47,212 - I said the spark comment, to be very clear. 832 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:50,616 - Now that I know that you said it, it sounds all perfect, bro. 833 00:25:50,682 --> 00:25:52,651 But like, just perfect? 834 00:25:52,718 --> 00:25:54,420 That's kind of boring. 835 00:25:54,486 --> 00:25:56,688 - "What is it about Kenny and Whitney's relationship 836 00:25:56,755 --> 00:25:58,056 that felt boring to you? 837 00:25:58,123 --> 00:26:00,592 They're still together, so it can't be that boring." 838 00:26:00,659 --> 00:26:04,596 - I didn't directly call her boring or vanilla. 839 00:26:04,663 --> 00:26:07,466 I said that their relationship is boring. 840 00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:08,700 - No, you did. 841 00:26:08,767 --> 00:26:10,202 You said it at me, not the relationship. 842 00:26:10,269 --> 00:26:11,703 - You said she was boring. - Because I feel like again-- 843 00:26:11,770 --> 00:26:12,905 - It read-- 844 00:26:12,971 --> 00:26:14,306 - --they're just trying to project, again, 845 00:26:14,373 --> 00:26:16,175 not being honest with themselves and being like, 846 00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:17,176 hey, we're in love. 847 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:18,444 You moved across country. 848 00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:19,445 We're still figuring it out. Done. 849 00:26:19,511 --> 00:26:20,446 That's it. 850 00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:21,647 Everything would have been fine. 851 00:26:22,815 --> 00:26:23,515 - She has a tutorial on how to make toast. 852 00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:25,017 - That would be so easy. 853 00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:26,985 - Jason P emailed, "Do you agree with Whitney's take that 854 00:26:27,052 --> 00:26:30,122 Gavin is only used to crazy toxic relationships 855 00:26:30,189 --> 00:26:32,658 and seeing you miserable?" 856 00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:33,659 - Yeah. 857 00:26:33,725 --> 00:26:34,760 - Think before you answer. 858 00:26:34,827 --> 00:26:36,495 - I think part of the-- 859 00:26:36,562 --> 00:26:39,665 I think part of it was that Gavin 860 00:26:39,731 --> 00:26:41,800 has been in these cycles of relationships that 861 00:26:41,867 --> 00:26:43,302 are very volatile and toxic. 862 00:26:43,368 --> 00:26:44,303 I have been-- 863 00:26:44,369 --> 00:26:45,370 - He's really passionate. 864 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:46,738 - Yeah. 865 00:26:46,805 --> 00:26:48,540 And I have been in those relationships in the past, too. 866 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:51,043 What I love about this relationship is that it's not. 867 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:52,044 It's very grounding. 868 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:53,145 It feels very safe. 869 00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:54,680 Like, we're in a really good place. 870 00:26:54,746 --> 00:26:56,381 And I think that that might come across 871 00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:58,217 to boring as some people, but for me, 872 00:26:58,283 --> 00:26:59,818 it's like, it's regulating. 873 00:26:59,885 --> 00:27:00,819 It feels good. 874 00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:02,421 Like, we're very happy about it, 875 00:27:02,488 --> 00:27:05,124 and I just don't think he fully can like, understand that. 876 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:06,258 - Do you dislike Whitney? 877 00:27:06,325 --> 00:27:07,759 - I love Whitney. - You do? 878 00:27:07,826 --> 00:27:09,128 - Yes. 879 00:27:09,194 --> 00:27:10,896 It just annoys me that they said their relationship 880 00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:12,865 is all travel and excitement. 881 00:27:12,931 --> 00:27:14,833 That sounds like a honeymoon phase, which is great. 882 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:16,101 - It's much more than that, obviously. 883 00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:18,337 - Now be honest with everyone and yourselves 884 00:27:18,403 --> 00:27:19,705 that you're still working on things. 885 00:27:19,771 --> 00:27:20,772 - It's so much more than that. - That's fine. 886 00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:21,773 - It's so much more than that. 887 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,175 - That's absolutely fine. 888 00:27:23,242 --> 00:27:25,777 - Whitney, Jasmine said, on "Watch What Happens Live," 889 00:27:25,844 --> 00:27:28,313 that the most fame hungry contestant 890 00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:31,216 from Bachelor Nation is you. 891 00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:33,185 - Who do you think was solely in it for the fame? 892 00:27:33,252 --> 00:27:34,186 - Ooh. 893 00:27:34,253 --> 00:27:35,187 - Only one? 894 00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:36,688 - Only one? 895 00:27:36,755 --> 00:27:40,292 Um, I'll say Whitney, who's on "The City." 896 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,293 - All right. 897 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:42,494 - Honestly, if you said that-- 898 00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:43,795 - That's the most bizarre thing ever. 899 00:27:43,862 --> 00:27:45,030 I like, didn't even go far in "The Bachelor." 900 00:27:45,097 --> 00:27:46,098 I wasn't even shown. 901 00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:47,266 - Whitney, if you just said you're 902 00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:48,767 with him to be on reality TV, I would 903 00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:51,236 actually prefer that to saying you're actually with him. 904 00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:52,304 - Are you kidding me? 905 00:27:52,371 --> 00:27:53,839 - At this point, yes. 906 00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:55,707 - Wait, the show was even a thing when they were together. 907 00:27:55,774 --> 00:27:57,976 - We were together before this was even an option. 908 00:27:58,043 --> 00:28:01,313 By the way, I said I don't want to do it. 909 00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:02,614 - Coming up-- 910 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:04,883 - I almost threw up watching this last night 911 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:09,188 because it was so much worse than as it was explained to me. 912 00:28:09,254 --> 00:28:12,157 [suspenseful music] 913 00:28:12,224 --> 00:28:16,361 ♪ ♪ 914 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,599 [tense music] 915 00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:22,067 ♪ ♪ 916 00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:24,469 - We were together before this was even an option. 917 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:26,371 And by the way, I said I don't want to do it. 918 00:28:26,438 --> 00:28:28,574 - After watching everything, we re-talked about it. 919 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,841 - They weren't even part of-- - Nasty. 920 00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:30,842 - --any of this. 921 00:28:30,909 --> 00:28:32,210 - I watched everything. 922 00:28:32,277 --> 00:28:34,012 - Guys, they've been dating for a long ass time. 923 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:35,214 - Yeah. 924 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,216 - I can tell that there is a genuine love 925 00:28:37,282 --> 00:28:39,151 and you guys have been doing a lot of steps. 926 00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:41,486 So I absolutely disagree with the fact 927 00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:43,555 that this is just for-- for reality. 928 00:28:43,622 --> 00:28:45,390 - So how is the spark today? 929 00:28:45,457 --> 00:28:46,391 - Brighter than ever. 930 00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:47,859 - Yeah. 931 00:28:47,926 --> 00:28:51,730 Honestly, it's-- I think it's-- we have such a good 932 00:28:51,797 --> 00:28:53,098 connection and I just think we're in such 933 00:28:53,165 --> 00:28:54,833 a great place that-- 934 00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:56,401 - Why are you upset? 935 00:28:56,468 --> 00:28:58,670 - Well, it's just hurtful that people think that I was like, 936 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,138 on a show with Kenny for fame. 937 00:29:00,205 --> 00:29:01,139 - I don't think that. 938 00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:02,507 I just wish that were the case. 939 00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:03,675 - I've been accused of the same thing for 10 years. 940 00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:04,910 - Why do you wish that was the case? 941 00:29:04,977 --> 00:29:06,011 - Because I watched back the whole show like, 942 00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:07,512 it's actually worse than I thought. 943 00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:09,147 It's like, you want her to be friends with everybody? 944 00:29:09,214 --> 00:29:10,248 - What are you talking about? 945 00:29:10,315 --> 00:29:11,583 - You're generalizing something. 946 00:29:11,650 --> 00:29:13,285 - Let me finish talking, Andy asked me a question. 947 00:29:13,352 --> 00:29:15,087 If you show up to a group and you want your girlfriend 948 00:29:15,153 --> 00:29:16,555 to be friends with everybody, you 949 00:29:16,622 --> 00:29:18,056 should be nice to everybody. 950 00:29:18,123 --> 00:29:19,424 You don't attack people. 951 00:29:19,491 --> 00:29:22,961 - And maybe this is a moment for me to own it. 952 00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:25,764 But I felt like the whole season, 953 00:29:25,831 --> 00:29:27,532 especially in the beginning, I was 954 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:31,570 having to defend my relationship, defend my spark, 955 00:29:31,637 --> 00:29:33,405 defend moving Whitney across the country. 956 00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:36,208 I was in defense mode to where I couldn't even enjoy 957 00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:37,643 hanging out with this group. 958 00:29:37,709 --> 00:29:40,112 And it clearly came across to everyone else 959 00:29:40,178 --> 00:29:41,480 like I was attacking everyone. 960 00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:44,316 But for me, I know what I said to Kyle. 961 00:29:44,383 --> 00:29:46,251 I know what I said to Whitney. 962 00:29:46,318 --> 00:29:47,486 I felt like I-- 963 00:29:47,552 --> 00:29:49,021 it was all out there. 964 00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:51,823 But for some reason, I was still having to defend 965 00:29:51,890 --> 00:29:53,225 somebody that I love. 966 00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:55,727 And we were in a great place at that time and now, 967 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,730 and why am I having to defend this relationship to everyone? 968 00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:02,267 - It was also really hurtful to watch you talk about us 969 00:30:02,334 --> 00:30:03,535 and you didn't even know us. 970 00:30:03,602 --> 00:30:06,772 Like, I had just met you guys a week before 971 00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:08,974 and your girlfriend moves to New York. 972 00:30:09,041 --> 00:30:11,376 And the things that you're saying to her, that Lindsay 973 00:30:11,443 --> 00:30:12,711 has minions-- 974 00:30:12,778 --> 00:30:15,414 - Lindsay has her girls, and her girls-- 975 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,415 - Don't you mean the minions? 976 00:30:16,481 --> 00:30:17,416 - That's not minions. 977 00:30:17,482 --> 00:30:18,650 They're called fucking friends. 978 00:30:18,717 --> 00:30:20,085 - It's a mean girl fucking crew. 979 00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:21,720 - Kenny's about to get-- 980 00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:23,422 - And what does that mean? 981 00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:24,890 Like, we're going to gang up on her 982 00:30:24,956 --> 00:30:27,526 and not give her an opportunity to be part of our group? 983 00:30:27,592 --> 00:30:28,994 We don't even know you. 984 00:30:29,061 --> 00:30:32,964 And it felt like you were isolating her and creating, 985 00:30:33,031 --> 00:30:34,533 like, a nasty environment. 986 00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:36,234 We are not opinions or minions or whatever 987 00:30:36,301 --> 00:30:37,536 the fuck you guys were saying. 988 00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:39,237 - But Yvonne, you even said when we hung out 989 00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:42,340 as the four of us, it's OK that I'm 990 00:30:42,407 --> 00:30:45,110 hanging out with Danielle because Lindsay's 991 00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:46,745 OK with Danielle. - Lindsay approved. 992 00:30:46,812 --> 00:30:47,979 - I don't think you guys realize, 993 00:30:48,046 --> 00:30:49,681 when there's something that comes up, 994 00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:51,149 you don't think you're having groupthink, 995 00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:54,386 but you're all having the same opinion at the same time 996 00:30:54,453 --> 00:30:55,487 against one person. 997 00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:57,189 - Lindsay, Bella from Colorado said, 998 00:30:57,255 --> 00:30:59,224 "You were upset with Danielle with her comments 999 00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:01,293 about your last couple relationships. 1000 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,861 But they were valid concerns. 1001 00:31:02,928 --> 00:31:05,831 It seems like you want friends that are blindly loyal to you 1002 00:31:05,897 --> 00:31:07,866 instead of having friends who share their true 1003 00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:09,501 concerns and opinions." 1004 00:31:09,568 --> 00:31:11,370 - No, that's absolutely not true. 1005 00:31:11,436 --> 00:31:15,374 Yvonne is one of the biggest-- 1006 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,476 you know, she is-- 1007 00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:18,577 - Devil's advocate. 1008 00:31:18,643 --> 00:31:20,779 - --devil's advocate always with me. 1009 00:31:20,846 --> 00:31:24,616 Georgina is certainly highly opinionated. 1010 00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:26,351 I mean, even for years, Danielle 1011 00:31:26,418 --> 00:31:27,953 has had a lot of opinions. 1012 00:31:28,019 --> 00:31:32,758 It's more about I think there is a fine line when 1013 00:31:32,824 --> 00:31:35,494 big decisions are being made in someone's life of, 1014 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,131 like, letting them figure it out for themselves 1015 00:31:39,197 --> 00:31:42,434 or, you know, really like, feeling 1016 00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:47,305 like you need to take charge and take over, you know, 1017 00:31:47,372 --> 00:31:48,473 the decision. 1018 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:49,908 I'm actually scared of my-- 1019 00:31:49,975 --> 00:31:53,011 I'm the minion in all of my friends, quite frankly. 1020 00:31:53,078 --> 00:31:55,213 - Lexi, do you think Lindsay and her friends 1021 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,617 are a mean girl crew, as Kenny put it? 1022 00:31:58,683 --> 00:32:00,318 - No, not at all. 1023 00:32:00,385 --> 00:32:04,389 I mean, I consider them my good friends as well. 1024 00:32:04,456 --> 00:32:07,058 And I think, you know, everybody's 1025 00:32:07,125 --> 00:32:09,027 allowed to have their own opinion, 1026 00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:13,198 and it's great that they feel like they can speak up and 1027 00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:16,802 share that and not feel like they're being silenced or 1028 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:17,903 being led by somebody. 1029 00:32:17,969 --> 00:32:20,172 - It is lonely on the outside. 1030 00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:23,442 The island that I found myself on was terrible. 1031 00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:25,777 - I was the oldest girl in the Summer House for years, 1032 00:32:25,844 --> 00:32:27,412 and I was on an Island for about 1033 00:32:27,479 --> 00:32:29,481 five to six years in a row. 1034 00:32:29,548 --> 00:32:31,550 If anyone can understand, it's me, and I'm OK. 1035 00:32:31,616 --> 00:32:34,352 - And I think what we do in this situation is we hear, 1036 00:32:34,419 --> 00:32:35,353 we listen-- 1037 00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:36,421 - I'm just fucking tired of it. 1038 00:32:36,488 --> 00:32:37,622 - --and we learn. 1039 00:32:37,689 --> 00:32:39,624 So maybe from here on out, when a question 1040 00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:42,594 isn't asked to one of you three, not everyone is-- 1041 00:32:42,661 --> 00:32:44,095 - Yeah, well, we can't deal with that. 1042 00:32:44,162 --> 00:32:45,664 - Guys, even after all of this-- 1043 00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:50,035 - Like, in terms of this thing. - I missed it. 1044 00:32:50,101 --> 00:32:51,670 - Of course. - I don't deny it. 1045 00:32:51,736 --> 00:32:53,138 - What did you say? - Did you black out? 1046 00:32:53,205 --> 00:32:56,074 - I was just saying, maybe when we hear some-- 1047 00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:59,211 when we learn from this as people are feeling this way. 1048 00:32:59,277 --> 00:33:01,980 And maybe for the rest of the evening, when one of you three 1049 00:33:02,047 --> 00:33:04,349 aren't asked a question, not all of you 1050 00:33:04,416 --> 00:33:07,586 answer for that one person. 1051 00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:08,887 - I will apologize. 1052 00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:12,190 The word minion, I first said it at guys' night. 1053 00:33:12,257 --> 00:33:13,892 It was not the best word choice. 1054 00:33:13,959 --> 00:33:15,694 - It also felt like you made up your mind about us 1055 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,629 before you even gave us a shot. 1056 00:33:17,696 --> 00:33:19,564 - Kyle, give him the best advice. 1057 00:33:19,631 --> 00:33:21,766 When you apologize, don't follow up with but 1058 00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:23,502 and give an explanation. 1059 00:33:23,568 --> 00:33:25,136 Just say you're sorry and then period. 1060 00:33:25,203 --> 00:33:26,137 - That's what I just said. 1061 00:33:26,204 --> 00:33:27,706 - From someone who learned. 1062 00:33:27,772 --> 00:33:29,140 And you are wearing yellow. 1063 00:33:29,207 --> 00:33:30,308 - Minion yellow. 1064 00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:31,343 - OK, very good. 1065 00:33:31,409 --> 00:33:32,711 - Looks good on you. 1066 00:33:32,777 --> 00:33:33,712 [laughter] 1067 00:33:33,778 --> 00:33:34,679 - You know it. 1068 00:33:34,746 --> 00:33:35,847 - I'm wearing pink, right? 1069 00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:37,015 [laughter] 1070 00:33:37,082 --> 00:33:39,451 - Kenny, I loved the scene where 1071 00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:41,453 you reunited with your dad. 1072 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,454 - I can't believe it. 1073 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,024 [sobbing] 1074 00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:48,593 - Oh, my god. 1075 00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:50,695 - I mean, it was so moving. 1076 00:33:50,762 --> 00:33:55,000 That must have been absolutely just mind blowing 1077 00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:58,904 that that happened so quickly. 1078 00:33:58,970 --> 00:34:03,742 - It honestly was like, a very unexpected 1079 00:34:03,808 --> 00:34:05,143 situation, to be honest. 1080 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:08,013 Like, I'm still, like, in a little bit of shock 1081 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:09,080 that we talk weekly. 1082 00:34:09,147 --> 00:34:10,081 - You do? 1083 00:34:10,148 --> 00:34:11,149 You speak weekly? 1084 00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:12,284 - We talk weekly. 1085 00:34:12,350 --> 00:34:13,718 - Have you met your half siblings yet? 1086 00:34:13,785 --> 00:34:15,453 - I've met some of them, yeah. 1087 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,956 - And you know, Lindsey and Kenny, 1088 00:34:18,023 --> 00:34:19,958 you've talked about this a lot and 1089 00:34:20,025 --> 00:34:25,897 about how your lives were affected by the absence 1090 00:34:25,964 --> 00:34:26,898 of your parents. 1091 00:34:26,965 --> 00:34:28,567 I'm curious what advice you have 1092 00:34:28,633 --> 00:34:32,537 for people who might be going through a similar experience. 1093 00:34:32,604 --> 00:34:33,805 - Well, first, I want to say, like, 1094 00:34:33,872 --> 00:34:36,675 when I watched that, I had chills, 1095 00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:39,778 and I was completely crying. 1096 00:34:39,844 --> 00:34:43,281 It was beautiful to see, and I'm so happy for you. 1097 00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:45,750 Honestly, genuinely warmed my heart for you 1098 00:34:45,817 --> 00:34:48,954 because I feel like it was a missing 1099 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:52,590 hole that you needed to be filled that your dad was 1100 00:34:52,657 --> 00:34:53,925 able to fill. 1101 00:34:53,992 --> 00:34:58,363 I think Kenny and I have very different situations. 1102 00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:02,033 His dad, his stepmom, were looking 1103 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,835 for him, searching for him. 1104 00:35:03,902 --> 00:35:05,437 Mine knows where to find me. 1105 00:35:05,503 --> 00:35:07,038 She has my number. 1106 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:09,007 She chooses not to. 1107 00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:11,977 And that's kind of been the case my entire life. 1108 00:35:12,043 --> 00:35:14,079 So I think it's a little bit different. 1109 00:35:14,145 --> 00:35:17,315 I had to spend years and years in therapy 1110 00:35:17,382 --> 00:35:19,517 to work through those abandonment issues. 1111 00:35:19,584 --> 00:35:21,186 It's never going to go away for me. 1112 00:35:21,252 --> 00:35:26,458 It's more about how I recognize it, react to it, 1113 00:35:26,524 --> 00:35:30,462 communicate it, and not let it control me, 1114 00:35:30,528 --> 00:35:35,634 and it's just therapy and practice and experience. 1115 00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:38,336 - I was really moved hearing you 1116 00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:41,873 tell Kenny how what you went through with your mom 1117 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:44,242 has impacted the mom that you want to be with Gemma. 1118 00:35:44,309 --> 00:35:46,711 I thought that was so amazing that you're 1119 00:35:46,778 --> 00:35:49,080 trying to break that. 1120 00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:51,750 - Yeah, the interesting part is I don't actually have to try 1121 00:35:51,816 --> 00:35:53,485 that hard to break the cycle. 1122 00:35:53,551 --> 00:35:54,619 - Right. 1123 00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:57,789 - It is innate inside of me and how 1124 00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:01,259 I've always been wanting to show up as a mom to Gemma, 1125 00:36:01,326 --> 00:36:06,598 and you, obviously, as a parent and Georgina as a mom, 1126 00:36:06,664 --> 00:36:09,768 like, we all, like, just try to do 1127 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:14,105 the best that we can to show unconditional love 1128 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,007 at all times, you know? 1129 00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:19,611 And I think that's all that, like, kids need is like, 1130 00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:22,247 they just need to be kids, and they need to be loved. 1131 00:36:22,313 --> 00:36:25,917 And that's not that hard to give. 1132 00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:27,719 - Whitney, have you noticed a change 1133 00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:31,523 in Kenny since he brought his dad back into his life? 1134 00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:35,660 - Yeah, I think it was a huge weight lifted off him 1135 00:36:35,727 --> 00:36:37,228 that he didn't even know was there, 1136 00:36:37,295 --> 00:36:39,497 and I think it brought us a lot closer. 1137 00:36:39,564 --> 00:36:43,001 - Whitney, how do you see your future with Kenny? 1138 00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:45,103 - I mean, we've had a lot of conversations 1139 00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:50,542 even since the show, and we've really talked about, 1140 00:36:50,608 --> 00:36:54,012 like, getting engaged this year and taking next steps 1141 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:58,183 and being really confident in that place. 1142 00:36:58,249 --> 00:37:00,752 So it's definitely a different place than a few months ago. 1143 00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:04,089 - Coming up-- 1144 00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:05,323 - Lindsey, you collect apologies 1145 00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:07,659 like you collect souls. 1146 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:12,030 [audio logo] 1147 00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:12,964 [audio logo] 1148 00:37:13,031 --> 00:37:14,666 [music playing] 1149 00:37:14,732 --> 00:37:17,135 ♪ ♪ 1150 00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:19,304 - We are back with the "In the City" reunion. 1151 00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:21,706 Clearly, this group has baby fever. 1152 00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,975 Do you want kids someday? 1153 00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:25,543 - Definitely want kids. 1154 00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:26,678 Kids soon, yeah. 1155 00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:32,717 - Maybe minion Martin. - --one. 1156 00:37:32,784 --> 00:37:34,052 - Maybe minion Martin. 1157 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:35,587 Baby minion Martin. 1158 00:37:35,653 --> 00:37:37,889 - Well, while Lindsey was betting on herself 1159 00:37:37,956 --> 00:37:40,058 in the New York City dating scene, 1160 00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:43,361 accusations that she was playing the single mom card 1161 00:37:43,428 --> 00:37:47,866 had a few people here dealing out insults and accusations. 1162 00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:48,867 Take a look. 1163 00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:50,201 - We're taking the primary. 1164 00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,338 - Yeah, because we're two moms that have not been 1165 00:37:53,404 --> 00:37:54,739 away from our kids in a while. 1166 00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:57,575 - She always plays the single mom card. 1167 00:37:57,642 --> 00:38:00,712 And I'm like, OK, you can't use that excuse for everything. 1168 00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:03,014 - You use the word single mom card. 1169 00:38:03,081 --> 00:38:04,749 - She's kind of above everyone else. 1170 00:38:04,816 --> 00:38:09,454 Everyone bows down to Lindsay, and I'm sick of watching it. 1171 00:38:09,521 --> 00:38:11,656 - OK, I want to see how the single mom card 1172 00:38:11,723 --> 00:38:13,591 comment landed with the group. 1173 00:38:13,658 --> 00:38:15,560 Whitney, what made you go there, 1174 00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:18,263 and do you regret that choice of words? 1175 00:38:18,329 --> 00:38:22,100 - I am really sorry that I used that term, 1176 00:38:22,167 --> 00:38:25,203 and even watching it back, I feel 1177 00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:27,238 like that was far from the point 1178 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:28,740 that I was trying to get across. 1179 00:38:28,806 --> 00:38:30,975 Like, I respect you both as single mothers, 1180 00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:32,710 and I see how hard you work to give 1181 00:38:32,777 --> 00:38:35,246 your kids the life that you do and how you really 1182 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,048 are there for them physically. 1183 00:38:37,115 --> 00:38:39,984 And I don't want to disregard that. 1184 00:38:40,051 --> 00:38:42,787 And I'm sorry that you felt a type of way from that comment 1185 00:38:42,854 --> 00:38:45,356 because I was really trying to get the point across 1186 00:38:45,423 --> 00:38:49,194 of standing up for Yvonne and your friendship 1187 00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:51,229 with just the gesture to kind of, like, 1188 00:38:51,296 --> 00:38:53,765 do something to help repair going 1189 00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:56,835 into our Friendsgiving weekend. 1190 00:38:56,901 --> 00:39:00,738 And I think that it totally took a different direction. 1191 00:39:00,805 --> 00:39:02,907 So I just want to apologize that you 1192 00:39:02,974 --> 00:39:05,577 took it the way that you did and it came across that way. 1193 00:39:05,643 --> 00:39:08,613 - And not only did you say she uses a single mom card, 1194 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,284 but how could she when she has a nanny and she has help? 1195 00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:16,454 The double down is what made it worse. 1196 00:39:16,521 --> 00:39:17,956 I almost threw up watching this last night-- 1197 00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:19,123 - The part. 1198 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:21,626 - --because it was so much worse than 1199 00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:23,661 as it was explained to me. 1200 00:39:23,728 --> 00:39:26,831 It was so bad, Whitney, that you doubled down. 1201 00:39:26,898 --> 00:39:30,068 And it wasn't like, oh, I'm defending Yvonne. 1202 00:39:30,134 --> 00:39:32,770 Like, you had conviction when you said that. 1203 00:39:32,837 --> 00:39:34,305 - It was the-- - And like-- 1204 00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:36,140 - It was when you said there are plenty of mothers who 1205 00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:38,343 are single mothers who don't have help 1206 00:39:38,409 --> 00:39:40,612 and don't have someone around and don't have this and that. 1207 00:39:40,678 --> 00:39:42,447 And I'm like, OK, what's the next part? 1208 00:39:42,513 --> 00:39:44,215 They can't hang out with their friends either? 1209 00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:47,051 I mean, I appreciate the gesture of the apology, 1210 00:39:47,118 --> 00:39:49,721 but like, I don't think you didn't really mean it, 1211 00:39:49,787 --> 00:39:50,922 you know? 1212 00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:53,591 Like, I think you were annoyed that we 1213 00:39:53,658 --> 00:39:55,093 took the room because we said we were moms 1214 00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:56,327 and we needed a break. 1215 00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,129 And Kenny, if you wanted to do that gesture, 1216 00:39:58,196 --> 00:39:59,364 she's your co-host. 1217 00:39:59,430 --> 00:40:00,899 You should have talked to her and 1218 00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:02,500 said, hey, why don't we give Lindsey and Yvonne the room-- 1219 00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:03,668 - Vice versa. 1220 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:06,004 - There's also two other large rooms. 1221 00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:07,272 - Usually, when you get to a house, 1222 00:40:07,338 --> 00:40:09,007 you say, OK, what are we going to do? 1223 00:40:09,073 --> 00:40:10,475 - That's not what happened. 1224 00:40:10,541 --> 00:40:14,779 You literally suggested it in public in front of everyone. 1225 00:40:14,846 --> 00:40:16,648 - So it was my-- it was my fault. 1226 00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:21,386 - --just because of how much we messed up your wedding. 1227 00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:22,387 - Totally. 1228 00:40:22,453 --> 00:40:23,821 But either way-- 1229 00:40:23,888 --> 00:40:25,290 - It was coming from a good place. 1230 00:40:25,356 --> 00:40:28,026 - Whitney, can you name any other instance 1231 00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:32,630 where Lindsey played the mom card besides when 1232 00:40:32,697 --> 00:40:36,200 she said she and Georgina were taking the primary rooms 1233 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:38,770 because they were moms who haven't been away 1234 00:40:38,836 --> 00:40:40,672 from their kids in a while? 1235 00:40:40,738 --> 00:40:45,410 - I misspoke when I said that you've used that. 1236 00:40:45,476 --> 00:40:49,280 It was more coming from I felt like you have been in-- 1237 00:40:49,347 --> 00:40:51,282 I've witnessed these different situations 1238 00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:52,617 where you feel like you're a little more 1239 00:40:52,684 --> 00:40:54,319 deserving than other people. And I-- 1240 00:40:54,385 --> 00:40:55,586 - So when else have I complained 1241 00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:58,389 to you about being a mom? 1242 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,425 - She just said it was more about entitlement. 1243 00:41:00,491 --> 00:41:01,726 - It was more about entitlement, 1244 00:41:01,793 --> 00:41:02,860 and it was not about that. 1245 00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:04,195 - So I haven't. 1246 00:41:04,262 --> 00:41:05,930 - She just clarified. - I just said that. 1247 00:41:05,997 --> 00:41:07,265 - OK. 1248 00:41:07,332 --> 00:41:09,434 You know cried about what you said for six months, 1249 00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:11,536 and the only time I didn't fucking cry about it 1250 00:41:11,602 --> 00:41:12,937 was when you had a scandal. 1251 00:41:13,004 --> 00:41:15,173 So thank you, Amanda, for taking me out of that 1252 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,975 because it was so hurtful. 1253 00:41:17,041 --> 00:41:22,380 The reason I have a nanny is because I have to work while 1254 00:41:22,447 --> 00:41:24,482 you complain about your boyfriend 1255 00:41:24,549 --> 00:41:29,320 not paying for a $30,000 closet in his apartment all season. 1256 00:41:29,387 --> 00:41:32,390 I'm providing for women, and you 1257 00:41:32,457 --> 00:41:36,661 are depending on your boyfriend to provide for your lifestyle. 1258 00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:39,030 That's why it's very hurtful. 1259 00:41:39,097 --> 00:41:42,533 - But I came out here just now, and I apologized for it, and-- 1260 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,868 - OK, well, you're going to need 1261 00:41:43,935 --> 00:41:48,072 15 more apologies to any mom in the entire world. 1262 00:41:48,139 --> 00:41:49,574 - It wasn't about that. 1263 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,343 I'm sorry that it came out that way, but it was a-- 1264 00:41:52,410 --> 00:41:53,578 - Really poor choice of words. 1265 00:41:53,644 --> 00:41:54,712 - Lindsey, you collect apologies 1266 00:41:54,779 --> 00:41:56,080 like you collect souls. 1267 00:42:00,585 --> 00:42:03,521 - Coming up in part two of the "In the City" reunion-- 1268 00:42:03,588 --> 00:42:05,390 - Personally, I think I was, like, very close to someone 1269 00:42:05,456 --> 00:42:06,858 on a dance floor, and-- 1270 00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:08,126 - Your lips touched. 1271 00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:10,495 - --we'll hear from the moms and the boys. 1272 00:42:10,561 --> 00:42:11,496 - Boys night. 1273 00:42:11,562 --> 00:42:12,797 Boys-- the boys. 1274 00:42:12,864 --> 00:42:13,798 - Men. 1275 00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:15,066 - No. 1276 00:42:15,133 --> 00:42:16,401 I'll call you a man when you act like one. 1277 00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:18,469 - Regarding the information that you found out, 1278 00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:21,739 Kyle had had sex with someone while you were married, when 1279 00:42:21,806 --> 00:42:22,907 did you find that out? 1280 00:42:22,974 --> 00:42:24,876 - Recently. 1281 00:42:24,942 --> 00:42:28,212 - The city doesn't sleep, and the drama doesn't rest. 1282 00:42:28,279 --> 00:42:29,313 - Your mouth is on her neck. 1283 00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:30,381 And I said, who is that girl? 1284 00:42:30,448 --> 00:42:31,616 You said, I don't know. 1285 00:42:31,682 --> 00:42:33,151 - I'm not trying to do anything shady. 1286 00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:35,119 - Kyle, come on. 1287 00:42:35,186 --> 00:42:39,390 - The dramatic conclusion of the "In the City" reunion. 94888

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