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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- Should we do this?
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- Yeah.
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We're still on the opposite
side of the room.
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- I know.
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- I can feel the awkwardness.
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♪ ♪
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- And set.
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- The "In The City" season
1 reunion starts now.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome to the "In
The City" Season 1 Reunion.
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I love a season 1 reunion.
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I'm Andy Cohen.
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And I almost wore
a whitish-pink suit tonight.
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But after what
happened to Danielle,
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I went right back
in my dressing room
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and I changed very quickly.
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- Good move.
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- Without further
ado, yes, let's say
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hi to the gang from Gotham.
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Yvonne and Nick,
congratulations on expecting.
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- Thank you.
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- Yes!
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[castmates cheering]
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Hey, Gavin.
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- What's up?
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- Have you noticed a spike
in business at your bars
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since the show started airing?
- I have.
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- Yes.
- People are showing up.
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- Excellent.
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Hey, Georgina.
- Hi.
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- How are you?
- I'm good.
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How are you?
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- Great.
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Has Kyle hit you up
for any butt Botox lately?
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- That would be a HIPAA
violation to answer.
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- Oh!
[laughter]
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- OK.
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Hey, Amanda.
- Hi, Andy.
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- How are you?
- I'm OK.
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- OK, good.
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I know the last few months
have been a whirlwind for you.
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How are you approaching
today differently?
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I know you actually did
your own hair tonight.
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- I did.
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I did my own hair,
makeup, and styling
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so no one can get in trouble.
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And if you hate it, then,
you know, that's on me.
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- That's on you.
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- Right, right.
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- As are most
of my actions, but--
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- Yes.
- --yeah.
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- All right.
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Hi, Lindsay.
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- Hey, Andy.
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- Is Gemma still
a master of side-eye?
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- She is.
And in fact--
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- Where'd she get that?
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- I don't know.
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It's so crazy how, you
know, genetics work.
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- Yeah, it is.
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DJ Kyle Cook.
- How are we doing?
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- How are you?
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- Pretty good, pretty good.
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- Very good.
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The people need to know,
how is your asshole doing?
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- Well, you're supposed
to ease into Metamucil.
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I was taking four times
the recommended dosage.
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I like, literally,
like, rip my butt open.
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[crickets chirping]
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[laughter]
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- You know, I was
hoping it made the edit.
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[laughter]
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I-- it took a while.
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I finally recovered.
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- You did?
- Yeah.
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- Sounded like it.
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- Oh, my god.
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Hey, Kenny and Whitney.
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- Hi.
- How's it going?
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- Good, good.
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How are you?
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- How's your spark these days?
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- Phenomenal.
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- Good.
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- It's very, very bright.
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- Hey, Danielle and Eoin.
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- Hi, Andy.
- Hi, Andy.
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How are you?
- How are you?
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You are also expecting.
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Congratulations.
- Yes.
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Thank you.
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- You are due when?
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- Labor Day.
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- Labor Day?
- Yeah.
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- Wow.
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And finally, good
news comes in threes.
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Congratulations are also
in order to Andrea and Lexi,
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who are expecting a baby girl.
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Congratulations.
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- Nice to see you, Andy.
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It's been a while.
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- When are you due?
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- September 2.
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- Wow!
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I mean, this is--
- Boom, boom, boom.
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- Within a week.
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- Yep.
- Wow.
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- Yeah, we're all within
a week of each other.
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- Oh, my god.
- Lots of labor.
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- I guess that means
the prosciutto method works.
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- That's a good method.
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- He lifts you up.
- That's my move.
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- Yeah.
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- Semi off the ground.
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- Like a prosciutto.
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It's easy.
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You just grab her from
the legs, and make sure
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it goes straight.
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- Our daughter is
gonna see this.
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- All right, well,
let's get into it.
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As the entire
world knows by now,
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after Kyle and Amanda's
marriage went south,
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Amanda found herself
swerving West.
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There's been a ton of online
speculation about where
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you two stand today.
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So let me just start
there and get an update.
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How are things going?
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I know you were just in Italy.
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- Yes.
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- And, you know, this
video or a picture of you
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spitting in his
mouth was everywhere.
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- It was an olive.
- It was an olive, OK.
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- Yes.
I wasn't spitting in his mouth.
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- OK.
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- Yeah.
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- I got a lot of heat
for only asking
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West if he was on a beta
blocker at the reunion.
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- Yes.
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- There was a lot
of people wanted
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me to ask if you were, you
know, disengaged chemically.
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- No.
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I did-- I was on a beta
blocker as well.
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But that's not why
I was disengaged.
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I think after a while, I think
people can see also, you know,
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when Kyle and I
have had arguments,
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my defense mechanism is to just
shut down and dissociate.
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That wasn't
because of medication.
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- We have heard from
Kyle, Amanda, and Lindsay
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at the "Summer House" reunion.
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I'm curious for the rest
of you in the group
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if anyone had
a reaction or were
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you surprised about
Amanda and West
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announcing that they
were giving it a shot.
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- Yes.
- Yes.
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- Yes.
- Yes.
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- Shocked.
- Shocked?
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- Shocked.
- I didn't believe it.
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I thought--
- Disappointed.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- Why?
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- I think because of the way
it all unfolded.
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The friendships that were
broken apart because of it.
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And then I just-- honestly, I
hate that you kind of doubled
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down and you're pursuing
this relationship with him
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all the way, you
know, going to Italy.
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I know that you had to make a
decision one way or the other.
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I just wish for you,
that you would take
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some time just for yourself.
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Be alone.
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- What's your reaction
to her disappointment?
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- No, I understand.
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I think and I know the way that
I handled things and went about
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the whole situation was wrong.
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And you can't go
back and change it.
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- But you can a little.
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- I can't go back and change
the fact that I wasn't honest
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and, you know, and hid
things and lied.
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- I'm curious, have y'all hung
out with Amanda and West yet?
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Anyone here in this group?
- No.
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- No?
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Gavin, have they turned
up at any of your bars?
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- They know better than that.
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[laughter]
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- What would you do?
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- What would happen if they
turned up at one of your bars?
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- Cut, cut.
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- Rejected at the door.
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- Those two.
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- No.
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Amanda, she would
never do that.
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- Yeah, no.
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I mean, we're not going
out much in general, so.
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- Are you two monogamous now?
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- Yes.
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- Are you in love?
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- That's-- it's a weird
question to answer.
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- Do you say, I love you?
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- Not really.
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- Not really?
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- Have you ever?
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- No.
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- "Love ya" counts.
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- Yeah, ILY.
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[chuckles]
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- Oh!
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- As you look back on the
reunion, did you watch it?
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- I lived it.
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I didn't-- I have not.
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- OK.
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Did you-- when you left, did
you leave feeling that there
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was nothing left unsaid?
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Or were you-- like,
were you disappointed
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in your performance?
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Were you fine with it?
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How did you--
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- For sure disappointed
in my performance.
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You know, I definitely
wanted to come in and
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be able to apologize
and provide more clarity
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and come off as sad and like--
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not me not hurt,
but upset about how
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I've hurt other people.
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And I think the energy,
I went into defense mode.
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And that's not to blame anyone.
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I understand where
everyone was coming from.
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But my natural instinct
was to get defensive.
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And I don't love the way
that I handled myself at all.
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- You wish you had
not gotten defensive?
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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- Not at all.
- I don't know West.
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I do care about you.
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And I've known you
for a long time.
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But he seems like
the things that you
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were most upset with Kyle
about, like, 10 times worse.
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- That's not what I've been
experiencing whatsoever.
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And on the flip
side, I'm actually
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getting from him
things that I felt
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I was lacking in my
relationship with Kyle, so--
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- Like what?
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- Just someone
that's been, like,
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supportive, that I feel like--
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like, like--
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- Let me know when
he does your taxes,
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negotiates your brand deals.
- You feel built up?
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- I feel-- I do--
- Make your bed.
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Like--
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- I feel--
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- How did I not support you?
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- I didn't say you
don't support me.
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But towards the end
of our relationship,
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there were things
that were missing.
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Not the whole time, but there
were things that were lacking.
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- To this day, I'm still
doing things to help you.
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So it's just-- it still hurts
when you say things like that.
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I understand our marriage
is not perfect.
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I understand there's
a lot missing.
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I don't think support was--
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- The way that he, like,
talks to me and tells me.
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Like, it's just his
actions, just the way--
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it's just-- it's different.
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And--
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- Well, I mean, yeah.
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He's-- yeah, anyway.
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I hope you understand
that everything
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that everybody here is saying
is because they care about you.
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- I know that.
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- You have people in your--
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I just don't want you
to turn your back.
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And I know it's
tough to sit here and
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do this all over again,
take the criticism.
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And it's a lose-lose.
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Like, you're coming
into the other reunion.
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There's nothing
you're going to say
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that's going to make it right.
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- I know.
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- And similar
today, so I give you
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credit for taking
it on the chin,
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and it's not
the first time he's
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said the right thing
to somebody to wrap
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them around his finger.
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- Kyle, you've
been very dignified
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throughout this whole thing.
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- No, Kyle's been--
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- --continued to be
amazed by how your--
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- --the best.
- --support--
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- Yeah.
- It's a testament to--
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- Yeah.
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I'm wondering, what
was your perspective
290
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about Kyle's conversation
with West, and in general,
291
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his level of support for you?
292
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- I mean, I'm eternally
grateful for Kyle.
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I think it just shows how much
we do have love for each other
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and I think it's
something that we've made
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clear from the very beginning.
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Unfortunately, like, we
could not communicate,
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we could not get
along in our marriage,
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but that doesn't take away from
the friendship and the love
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that we've had for each
other this whole time.
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Which is also why, when
we first separated,
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I was always standing up
for him too, because I didn't
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want people to attack him.
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And I'm just really
appreciative that he's
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been there for me
as well, because if anyone
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knows each other better,
it's the two of us.
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So I've been very
grateful to have him.
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- I don't know any
other way, so it's--
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It's been a ride.
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- Yeah.
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- Coming up.
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- When I can finish--
- There was a period of time.
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- --let me know.
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- You just talk over everyone.
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Let someone else speak.
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- --sitting here screaming.
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♪ ♪
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- OK, we are back.
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So, what's it like hanging out
with single Kyle now, folks?
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Kenny?
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[laughter]
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- When he's not making
out with somebody?
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- With all due, is single
Kyle that different--
325
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- Not at all.
326
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- --from married Kyle?
327
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- Kyle is true to himself.
328
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- I don't have, like,
this guilt trip--
329
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- Yeah.
- --hanging over my head.
330
00:10:34,834 --> 00:10:35,869
- He's just more public
with his makeouts now.
331
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- Kyle is going to be Kyle.
- Yeah.
332
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- And I love
hearing about them.
333
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- Are you just being recorded?
334
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- Do you care if--
- I think it was--
335
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- --you see him making out--
- --years ago.
336
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- --with someone now?
337
00:10:42,942 --> 00:10:44,144
- It wasn't as much years ago.
338
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No, I think I mourned
most of our relationship
339
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when I was still in it, which
is why I think I was so cold
340
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and closed off
towards the end of it,
341
00:10:52,685 --> 00:10:54,654
because I was coming
to terms that it
342
00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:56,556
wasn't going to continue.
343
00:10:56,623 --> 00:10:59,092
And now, like, he tells me
about make outs that he has
344
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and we laugh about it.
345
00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:01,494
Or like, I'll call
him and be like,
346
00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:03,096
I saw you kissing Meghan
on your tippy toes.
347
00:11:03,162 --> 00:11:04,497
What was that?
- Not my tippy toes.
348
00:11:04,564 --> 00:11:06,099
- He wasn't on his tippy toes.
- Not my tippy toes.
349
00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:07,567
- He was not on his tippy toes.
350
00:11:07,634 --> 00:11:10,069
- And at our premiere party,
we have a laugh about it.
351
00:11:10,136 --> 00:11:11,538
And then, yeah,
at our premiere party.
352
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- He was telling Amanda--
353
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Kyle was telling Amanda--
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- How he has sober sex.
355
00:11:15,642 --> 00:11:16,676
- And she was saying,
I'm so proud of you.
356
00:11:16,743 --> 00:11:17,677
- What?
- She had tears in her eyes.
357
00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:18,678
- Yeah.
358
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I don't know how
that came about.
359
00:11:21,047 --> 00:11:21,848
- I was like, What is
going on right now?
360
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- Who's having sober sex?
361
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You're having sober sex?
- Yeah.
362
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And Amanda was so proud.
363
00:11:25,118 --> 00:11:26,186
- I guess I was trying
to make a point, but--
364
00:11:26,252 --> 00:11:27,420
- Kyle McGill--
- --I forget my point.
365
00:11:27,487 --> 00:11:28,922
- Like, how do you know
you're over somebody
366
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when you're proud I them that
they're having sober sex?
367
00:11:31,291 --> 00:11:34,060
- Part of me wonders
if you are fully allowing
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yourself to process this.
369
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The way you're
showing up for her,
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the way that you guys
are still so friendly,
371
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given the level
of betrayal here.
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It's like, are you
allowing yourself--
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- Well, I didn't betray--
--to process?
374
00:11:45,772 --> 00:11:46,739
- We were--
- Here's the hero.
375
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- --way separated before.
376
00:11:48,174 --> 00:11:50,210
There was no betrayal.
377
00:11:50,276 --> 00:11:51,644
Like, I didn't cheat on Kyle.
378
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I didn't have an affair.
379
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There was no
crossover, overlap.
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Like, our marriage was done.
381
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- Oh, it did hurt to hear--
382
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I mean, like, to this day--
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- Of course, it hurt.
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- Look, the only
thing I'll say is,
385
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the thing that I can't
compute is our statement
386
00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:05,992
comes out the 19th.
387
00:12:06,059 --> 00:12:09,729
There's two weekends between
the 19th and the Super Bowl and
388
00:12:09,796 --> 00:12:12,432
everybody talks about
the Super Bowl being that
389
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point in time where West--
390
00:12:13,633 --> 00:12:14,467
- Which doesn't make--
- --said that--
391
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- --sense to me--
392
00:12:15,535 --> 00:12:16,669
- --you guys were an item.
393
00:12:17,704 --> 00:12:18,271
- --because we weren't
an item at all.
394
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We were texting.
395
00:12:19,872 --> 00:12:21,241
- Then take it up with him,
because he's out there running
396
00:12:21,307 --> 00:12:22,108
his mouth before, apparently,
you guys were an item,
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saying you were an item.
398
00:12:23,176 --> 00:12:24,244
- Yeah, again--
399
00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:25,612
- Which again,
like, what's his MO?
400
00:12:25,678 --> 00:12:27,447
I don't know.
- Don't know.
401
00:12:27,513 --> 00:12:28,881
- I only bring that up
because I am still--
402
00:12:28,948 --> 00:12:31,250
Like, there's still stuff
that I am processing.
403
00:12:31,317 --> 00:12:34,187
- Who do you feel more
betrayed by, West or Amanda?
404
00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:35,722
- West.
405
00:12:35,788 --> 00:12:42,562
Because we were boys
and we were done with our--
406
00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:46,966
- You made out with someone
before I was even texting
407
00:12:47,033 --> 00:12:50,069
West in any sort of way.
408
00:12:50,136 --> 00:12:51,838
- The night before
our premiere party in February?
409
00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:52,839
- Yeah.
410
00:12:52,905 --> 00:12:54,907
So, like, Kyle was done.
411
00:12:54,974 --> 00:12:56,643
- He was making
out with Sally--
412
00:12:56,709 --> 00:12:58,011
- Yeah.
413
00:12:58,077 --> 00:13:00,380
- --the night before
the "Summer House" premiere.
414
00:13:00,446 --> 00:13:02,248
- My point is, Kyle
wasn't, like, in his bed
415
00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:04,384
crying about the marriage.
416
00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:05,952
Like, Kyle was, like,
enjoying his freedom.
417
00:13:06,019 --> 00:13:07,120
- Right.
418
00:13:07,186 --> 00:13:09,956
- And are you
in Sally hanging out?
419
00:13:10,023 --> 00:13:12,959
- I was just in Charleston.
420
00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:14,661
Austin threw a nice
little party.
421
00:13:14,727 --> 00:13:16,162
- And what happened?
- We hung out.
422
00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,163
- Yes.
423
00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:19,032
- Yes, we hooked up.
- OK.
424
00:13:19,098 --> 00:13:20,500
- And there's nothing
wrong with that,
425
00:13:20,566 --> 00:13:21,834
and I didn't have an issue--
- Did you have sober sex?
426
00:13:21,901 --> 00:13:23,536
- --with it the first time
I heard about it either.
427
00:13:23,603 --> 00:13:24,570
- Was it sober?
428
00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:27,040
- Your-- your reaction--
429
00:13:27,106 --> 00:13:28,041
Kyle, your reaction--
430
00:13:28,107 --> 00:13:29,342
- No, it's prosciutto.
431
00:13:29,409 --> 00:13:30,343
It's the prosciutto.
432
00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:31,344
- Lawnmower?
433
00:13:31,411 --> 00:13:32,445
- The wheelbarrow.
434
00:13:32,512 --> 00:13:33,880
- Wheelbarrow.
435
00:13:33,946 --> 00:13:38,751
- So since nothing happens
outside the Bravo sphere,
436
00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:42,055
we've got LaLa from
The Valley saying
437
00:13:42,121 --> 00:13:43,523
that she heard
on good authority
438
00:13:43,589 --> 00:13:45,591
that you are great in bed.
439
00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:48,127
- Yeah, I woke up
to some texts from, like,
440
00:13:48,194 --> 00:13:50,496
TMZ and Page Six
asking for comment.
441
00:13:50,563 --> 00:13:52,632
I was like, this is one time
I would like to comment.
442
00:13:52,699 --> 00:13:53,700
[laughter]
443
00:13:53,766 --> 00:13:55,134
- But how would
people know that?
444
00:13:55,201 --> 00:13:56,769
So how many people are you
sleeping with and how soon
445
00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:57,870
after--
- No, it was Sally.
446
00:13:57,937 --> 00:13:59,472
- OK.
- It was Sally.
447
00:13:59,539 --> 00:14:00,673
- Just Sally.
448
00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:02,108
- She had told LaLa,
because, I guess,
449
00:14:02,175 --> 00:14:03,276
they had recorded a podcast.
450
00:14:03,342 --> 00:14:05,812
- What were you
guys doing in bed?
451
00:14:05,878 --> 00:14:08,014
- Having sober sex, Amanda.
452
00:14:08,081 --> 00:14:09,415
What are you doing in bed?
453
00:14:09,482 --> 00:14:11,150
- Wait, was the sober
sex person her?
454
00:14:11,217 --> 00:14:12,452
- No, no, no.
- Oh.
455
00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:13,453
- No, no, no.
456
00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:14,754
- TBD.
457
00:14:14,821 --> 00:14:17,156
- One was my age, one
was 10 years younger,
458
00:14:17,223 --> 00:14:19,792
but reads at an older level.
459
00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:22,395
- He certainly was
not on his tippies.
460
00:14:22,462 --> 00:14:23,996
He was not on his tippies,
I'll tell you that.
461
00:14:24,063 --> 00:14:25,798
- And I found a bra.
Yeah.
462
00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:26,933
No, it's fine.
463
00:14:26,999 --> 00:14:28,468
We are able to laugh about it.
464
00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:29,702
- Well, I should hope so.
465
00:14:29,769 --> 00:14:31,537
- I feel like that means
it's been over for--
466
00:14:31,604 --> 00:14:33,106
- Well, I want
to put a pin in this,
467
00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:36,576
and we are going to get more
into Kyle and Amanda's marriage
468
00:14:36,642 --> 00:14:37,744
a little later.
469
00:14:37,810 --> 00:14:39,479
Well, these days,
getting activated
470
00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:41,514
looks a lot different
for Lindsay Hubbard.
471
00:14:41,581 --> 00:14:43,349
This new mom found
herself sandwiched
472
00:14:43,416 --> 00:14:46,519
between a baby, a core group
of New York City girlfriends,
473
00:14:46,586 --> 00:14:50,423
and an utterly
unpredictable love life.
474
00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:53,025
Andrea, it was very
entertaining to see
475
00:14:53,092 --> 00:14:56,596
how giddy you got trying
to set Lindsay up.
476
00:14:56,662 --> 00:14:58,898
Have you been on the hunt
for her since then?
477
00:14:58,965 --> 00:15:01,300
- Oh, she's still
going decently
478
00:15:01,367 --> 00:15:03,269
strong with Mr. Milkman.
479
00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:04,270
- Are you?
480
00:15:04,337 --> 00:15:05,271
- Yeah.
481
00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:06,406
- They're very cute together.
482
00:15:06,472 --> 00:15:07,974
- I met Frank--
483
00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,308
- Tell me how you really feel?
You have no idea.
484
00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:10,743
- --when he was
dating Kelly Dodd.
485
00:15:10,810 --> 00:15:11,978
- I know.
486
00:15:12,044 --> 00:15:12,979
- He loves reality stars.
487
00:15:13,045 --> 00:15:14,781
- The Bravo world is so small.
488
00:15:14,847 --> 00:15:16,149
- I mean--
489
00:15:16,215 --> 00:15:18,985
- I'm not in a place right
now where I'm looking
490
00:15:19,051 --> 00:15:23,990
for a serious relationship.
491
00:15:24,056 --> 00:15:25,258
I really just am not.
492
00:15:25,324 --> 00:15:26,325
I think the last--
493
00:15:26,392 --> 00:15:27,393
- You're focused
on your daughter.
494
00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:29,061
- Yeah.
And work.
495
00:15:29,128 --> 00:15:30,062
Daughter and work.
496
00:15:30,129 --> 00:15:31,464
- And co-parenting.
497
00:15:31,531 --> 00:15:35,902
- And if-- dating has to be
fun for me, and I just
498
00:15:35,968 --> 00:15:38,204
am not ready to settle down.
499
00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:42,241
The last two partners that
I decided were going to be
500
00:15:42,308 --> 00:15:43,976
my partners, didn't work out.
501
00:15:44,043 --> 00:15:46,179
So I really am
taking my time when
502
00:15:46,245 --> 00:15:48,247
it comes to that big decision.
503
00:15:48,314 --> 00:15:49,816
- Co-parenting is going well?
504
00:15:49,882 --> 00:15:51,350
- He's a great father.
505
00:15:51,417 --> 00:15:52,552
- Is he dating anyone?
506
00:15:52,618 --> 00:15:53,686
- I hope so.
507
00:15:53,753 --> 00:15:54,921
- You hope so,
but you don't know?
508
00:15:54,987 --> 00:15:56,355
- Wait, you don't talk?
509
00:15:56,422 --> 00:15:58,024
- It makes everyone nicer
when they're getting laid.
510
00:15:58,090 --> 00:15:59,091
- That is true.
- Look at Kyle.
511
00:15:59,158 --> 00:16:00,159
He's--
He's glowing.
512
00:16:00,226 --> 00:16:01,661
[laughter]
513
00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:05,031
- Danielle, what do you
think of Frank and Dustin
514
00:16:05,097 --> 00:16:07,366
as potential mates for Lindsay?
515
00:16:07,433 --> 00:16:09,202
- I'm not going to comment
on Lindsay's
516
00:16:09,268 --> 00:16:10,803
relationships anymore.
517
00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:12,371
[laughter]
518
00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,809
[audio logo]
519
00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:17,710
[audio logo]
520
00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:18,811
[music playing]
521
00:16:18,878 --> 00:16:21,280
♪ ♪
522
00:16:21,347 --> 00:16:24,083
- We are back with
the "In The City" Reunion.
523
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:27,954
Georgina and Yvonne, what kind
of guy do you see Lindsay with?
524
00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:29,188
- Oh my God.
525
00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:31,958
- I see Lindsay with
somebody ambitious.
526
00:16:32,024 --> 00:16:34,393
So Frank did check that box.
527
00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:36,762
But I also see Lindsay
with somebody who doesn't
528
00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:38,564
take himself very seriously.
529
00:16:38,631 --> 00:16:39,832
Honestly, I think
Dustin would have
530
00:16:39,899 --> 00:16:41,534
been a great match if he
lived here, because he
531
00:16:41,601 --> 00:16:42,902
kind of checks those boxes.
532
00:16:42,969 --> 00:16:44,136
Obviously, he's handsome.
533
00:16:44,203 --> 00:16:45,938
She needs somebody
good looking and
534
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:48,040
somebody who's really
confident and secure
535
00:16:48,107 --> 00:16:50,243
and is not going to be
intimidated by the fact
536
00:16:50,309 --> 00:16:53,479
that she doesn't need
him, she just wants him.
537
00:16:53,546 --> 00:16:55,481
- And I think someone
who prioritizes
538
00:16:55,548 --> 00:16:57,583
Lindsay and values you.
539
00:16:57,650 --> 00:17:01,320
I think I'm still
skeptical of Frank,
540
00:17:01,387 --> 00:17:04,757
but I would love to see
you with someone else.
541
00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:06,192
But he's fun for now.
542
00:17:06,259 --> 00:17:07,460
- Yeah.
543
00:17:07,526 --> 00:17:08,761
- She's right about that
part related to Frank.
544
00:17:08,828 --> 00:17:09,762
- [laughing]
545
00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:10,963
- He should be more available.
546
00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:12,398
- More available.
- But I was--
547
00:17:12,465 --> 00:17:13,866
- Frank has just been
the fling category--
548
00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:15,268
- He's very fun, though.
- --not the ring category.
549
00:17:15,334 --> 00:17:16,269
- He's very fun.
- There's something missing.
550
00:17:16,335 --> 00:17:17,536
- I won't allow it.
551
00:17:17,603 --> 00:17:18,471
- There's something we
don't know about Frank.
552
00:17:19,105 --> 00:17:20,373
- He's very cute.
553
00:17:20,439 --> 00:17:21,307
- Danielle, what do you
think of Frank and Dustin
554
00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,876
as potential mates for Lindsay?
555
00:17:23,943 --> 00:17:25,878
- I-- I-- I'm not
going to comment
556
00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:27,947
on Lindsay's
relationships anymore.
557
00:17:28,014 --> 00:17:28,948
[laughter]
558
00:17:29,015 --> 00:17:30,016
- You've learned your lesson.
559
00:17:30,082 --> 00:17:31,017
- Yes, I've learned--
560
00:17:31,083 --> 00:17:32,418
I've learned several lessons.
561
00:17:32,485 --> 00:17:36,422
I-- I do think that what
Georgina and Yvonne is--
562
00:17:36,489 --> 00:17:38,758
said is spot on, I
mean, perhaps, like,
563
00:17:38,824 --> 00:17:41,027
a little bit more grounded
and ready for-- for someone
564
00:17:41,093 --> 00:17:42,261
like her.
565
00:17:42,328 --> 00:17:43,696
- Georgina, are you
currently seeing anyone?
566
00:17:43,763 --> 00:17:46,966
- No, but I've decided that
that's my next chapter.
567
00:17:47,033 --> 00:17:48,200
- OK.
568
00:17:48,267 --> 00:17:49,902
- Well, you have
your photos ready for Raya.
569
00:17:49,969 --> 00:17:51,704
- That's a big decision.
- It is a big decision
570
00:17:51,771 --> 00:17:53,706
- Yeah.
- It's hard with kids, but--
571
00:17:53,773 --> 00:17:55,341
and I kind of didn't
want to confuse them.
572
00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:57,410
And then I am going
to be dating-- actually,
573
00:17:57,476 --> 00:18:00,346
something Whitney and I
spoke about-- intentionally,
574
00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:01,881
where it's not the same.
575
00:18:01,948 --> 00:18:03,649
It's not going
to be just for fun.
576
00:18:03,716 --> 00:18:05,818
One of my patients
and good friends
577
00:18:05,885 --> 00:18:06,819
actually said something to me.
578
00:18:06,886 --> 00:18:07,820
Because I was so cautious.
579
00:18:07,887 --> 00:18:08,821
I was like, I don't--
580
00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:10,323
I don't know.
581
00:18:10,389 --> 00:18:11,924
I-- I was hoping it would
still work out with their dad,
582
00:18:11,991 --> 00:18:13,960
to be honest, as pathetic
as that sounds,
583
00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:15,461
just because then
it's easier on them.
584
00:18:15,528 --> 00:18:16,762
But she said something.
585
00:18:16,829 --> 00:18:18,831
She said, you know,
her parents split up
586
00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:19,832
when they were really young.
587
00:18:19,899 --> 00:18:21,801
And they both got remarried.
588
00:18:21,867 --> 00:18:23,302
And it was just more
people to love her.
589
00:18:23,369 --> 00:18:24,303
- Aw.
590
00:18:24,370 --> 00:18:25,504
- And I love that.
591
00:18:25,571 --> 00:18:26,772
- That-- that's great.
592
00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:27,873
- So that really, like,
tipped me over, where
593
00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,175
I was like, you know what?
594
00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:30,343
Another person to love
my kids and love me--
595
00:18:30,409 --> 00:18:31,444
- Yes.
596
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:32,578
- --I think that
would be fantastic.
597
00:18:32,645 --> 00:18:34,080
- Yes.
- Yes.
598
00:18:34,146 --> 00:18:37,383
- Lindsay and Georgina,
Ali W. emailed,
599
00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:41,153
congratulations to Danielle,
Yvonne and Lexi.
600
00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:42,855
Lindsay and Georgina,
what's the best
601
00:18:42,922 --> 00:18:46,525
parenting advice you have
to offer our soon-to-be moms?
602
00:18:46,592 --> 00:18:50,896
- My best advice is
to just go with it.
603
00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:53,799
You cannot control how
it's all going to go down,
604
00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:56,936
whether it's from the birth
to after the birth,
605
00:18:57,003 --> 00:18:58,437
the postpartum.
606
00:18:58,504 --> 00:19:01,841
You just have to just move
with the motions as they come.
607
00:19:01,907 --> 00:19:05,878
And make sure you have your
support systems in-- in line,
608
00:19:05,945 --> 00:19:07,246
you know?
609
00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:10,483
And I'm here for all
of you, including Danielle.
610
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:11,884
- [laughing]
611
00:19:11,951 --> 00:19:14,954
- I think the best advice
is give yourself grace.
612
00:19:15,021 --> 00:19:15,955
- Mm-hmm.
613
00:19:16,022 --> 00:19:17,656
- Give yourself love.
614
00:19:17,723 --> 00:19:19,158
If you need a minute,
take a minute.
615
00:19:19,225 --> 00:19:21,927
I remember, you know,
holding in my pee
616
00:19:21,994 --> 00:19:23,029
because my baby was crying.
617
00:19:23,095 --> 00:19:24,430
And it was in the morning.
618
00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:26,232
And I, like, had to go to him
and give him his bottle
619
00:19:26,298 --> 00:19:27,700
before I could even pee.
620
00:19:27,767 --> 00:19:30,536
And then with my second, I'm
like, eh, she'll be fine.
621
00:19:30,603 --> 00:19:32,938
I can go to the bathroom,
brush my teeth.
622
00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:35,274
So I wish I knew that
the first time around.
623
00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:36,409
- Do what's best for you.
624
00:19:36,475 --> 00:19:37,743
- And your-- and your baby.
625
00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:39,512
You know them better than
anybody else ever will.
626
00:19:39,578 --> 00:19:40,513
- All right--
627
00:19:40,579 --> 00:19:42,148
- Would you agree with that?
628
00:19:42,214 --> 00:19:43,582
- I would-- I would
agree with that.
629
00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:44,583
- OK.
630
00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:45,584
- Yes.
631
00:19:45,651 --> 00:19:47,253
All right, let's switch gears.
632
00:19:47,319 --> 00:19:49,855
Kenny caught a lot
of smoke for moving Whitney
633
00:19:49,922 --> 00:19:53,993
all the way to New York without
giving her a ring or a closet.
634
00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:56,929
But rumors that Kenny
and Whitney's relationship
635
00:19:56,996 --> 00:20:02,501
lacked a spark had this
entire group all lit up.
636
00:20:02,568 --> 00:20:03,836
Watch this.
637
00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:06,172
- She moved across
the country before the ring.
638
00:20:06,238 --> 00:20:08,574
You can't [muted] around
with this, like, at all.
639
00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:10,009
- I'm getting I hate men vibes.
640
00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:12,044
- I'm just allergic
to, like, annoying men.
641
00:20:12,111 --> 00:20:14,213
- Sometimes you-- you go in a
relationship and you feel this
642
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,916
spark and this buzz and this
fire, where you're like,
643
00:20:16,982 --> 00:20:18,050
this is my person.
644
00:20:18,117 --> 00:20:19,318
- Right.
645
00:20:19,385 --> 00:20:20,820
- And it's hard to know,
for me, like, is the,
646
00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:22,455
like, this is
the one and I know it
647
00:20:22,521 --> 00:20:23,856
for sure sparked spark there?
648
00:20:23,923 --> 00:20:25,091
- Yeah.
649
00:20:25,157 --> 00:20:28,060
- Kenny said that
he's unsure if there's
650
00:20:28,127 --> 00:20:30,196
a spark between you guys.
651
00:20:30,262 --> 00:20:32,765
He might have used
the word murky.
652
00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:34,433
- All I know is I had
a birthday dinner yesterday.
653
00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:37,703
And my girlfriend was upset
because of the word murky.
654
00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:41,006
- Kyle said that you're
doubting-- doubting the spark.
655
00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:42,174
- Why is he running his mouth?
656
00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,909
- But I'm not running my mouth!
657
00:20:43,976 --> 00:20:46,245
- I can't deal with a wall.
658
00:20:46,312 --> 00:20:49,582
- So Gabby from Houston,
Texas on Threads
659
00:20:49,648 --> 00:20:52,218
said, Kenny, why is it
so crazy for Lindsay
660
00:20:52,284 --> 00:20:54,754
to say to you that it's a big
gesture for your girlfriend
661
00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:57,356
to move across the country from
her friends without a ring?
662
00:20:57,423 --> 00:20:59,525
Do you not agree?
663
00:20:59,592 --> 00:21:01,293
- I agree, it's a big gesture.
664
00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,295
She's projecting her situation
onto my relationship.
665
00:21:03,362 --> 00:21:04,597
- What situation?
- Let him finish.
666
00:21:04,663 --> 00:21:06,332
Let him finish.
- She was very, like--
667
00:21:06,398 --> 00:21:08,234
- Kenny, I think she
was asking you a very--
668
00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:09,368
- Let him finish.
- --basic question.
669
00:21:09,435 --> 00:21:10,302
- OK, let's let him--
- You know what?
670
00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:11,437
Let's let him finish.
671
00:21:11,504 --> 00:21:12,538
Let's-- please,
let's let him finish.
672
00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:14,807
- OK, before
the minions step in--
673
00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:16,876
- How about we just say,
yeah, it's a really big step.
674
00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:18,077
I'm so grateful she's here.
675
00:21:18,144 --> 00:21:19,411
- But I want to hear
from Whitney.
676
00:21:19,478 --> 00:21:21,680
I want to know
Whitney's reaction
677
00:21:21,747 --> 00:21:24,450
to watching back when
Lindsey first grilled
678
00:21:24,517 --> 00:21:26,819
Kenny about your relationship.
679
00:21:26,886 --> 00:21:28,187
How did you take it?
680
00:21:28,254 --> 00:21:29,722
- I-- it felt very intense.
681
00:21:29,789 --> 00:21:34,426
I think, if you're saying
it was, like, out of my best
682
00:21:34,493 --> 00:21:35,895
interest, you would
have just, like,
683
00:21:35,961 --> 00:21:37,863
asked the questions,
versus, like--
684
00:21:37,930 --> 00:21:39,198
- I did ask the questions.
685
00:21:39,265 --> 00:21:41,500
- --insinu-- but you
were insinuating judgment
686
00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:44,036
on the questions, versus
just understanding
687
00:21:44,103 --> 00:21:45,504
and hearing his perspective.
688
00:21:45,571 --> 00:21:47,039
- I'm just asking questions.
689
00:21:47,106 --> 00:21:48,808
And as he's looking
around, making
690
00:21:48,874 --> 00:21:50,643
sure you're not
right there to make
691
00:21:50,709 --> 00:21:53,612
sure you don't know that
he fucked around on you--
692
00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:54,814
- I actually knew that.
- --whenever.
693
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,182
- We talked about--
694
00:21:56,248 --> 00:21:57,483
- We weren't together.
- I'm paying attention.
695
00:21:57,550 --> 00:21:58,617
- Let's be very clear.
696
00:21:58,684 --> 00:21:59,718
- I'm paying attention
to his friends.
697
00:21:59,785 --> 00:22:00,920
- We were not together.
- That's OK.
698
00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:02,154
- OK, so let's not
paint some picture.
699
00:22:02,221 --> 00:22:03,389
- I'm not even--
I'm not painting a picture.
700
00:22:03,455 --> 00:22:04,156
- I got out of an 11-year
relationship,
701
00:22:04,223 --> 00:22:05,424
eight-year relationship.
702
00:22:05,491 --> 00:22:06,525
- OK, so when I can
finish, let me know--
703
00:22:06,592 --> 00:22:07,760
- And there was
a period of time where--
704
00:22:07,826 --> 00:22:08,394
there was a period of time--
- --gaslighter.
705
00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:09,495
- --where--
706
00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:10,396
- When I can
finish, let me know.
707
00:22:10,462 --> 00:22:11,263
- --where we took a step apart.
708
00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:13,866
And I was going through some
very difficult family shit.
709
00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:14,934
- When I can
finish, let me know.
710
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,168
- And I will let you know.
711
00:22:16,235 --> 00:22:17,536
But when you're going
through something
712
00:22:17,603 --> 00:22:18,938
and you lose the only
person in your life that--
713
00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:20,706
- Misogynistic, narcissistic.
- --literally--
714
00:22:20,773 --> 00:22:22,441
- That is so not true.
- What are you talking about?
715
00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:23,442
- Then let me know
when I can finish.
716
00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:24,543
- I have to say--
717
00:22:24,610 --> 00:22:25,644
- Well, you just
talk over everyone.
718
00:22:26,312 --> 00:22:27,546
Let someone else speak.
719
00:22:27,613 --> 00:22:29,381
[music playing]
720
00:22:29,448 --> 00:22:30,516
♪ ♪
721
00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:31,750
- Coming up.
722
00:22:31,817 --> 00:22:34,420
- I think you were
off-the-bat defensive.
723
00:22:34,486 --> 00:22:35,688
- As I should be.
724
00:22:35,754 --> 00:22:38,157
[audio logo]
725
00:22:38,224 --> 00:22:39,558
[music playing]
726
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,464
♪ ♪
727
00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:46,999
- When you're going
through something
728
00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:49,134
and you lose the only person
in your life that literally--
729
00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:50,569
- Misogynistic, narcissistic.
730
00:22:50,636 --> 00:22:51,937
- That is so not true.
- What are you talking about?
731
00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:52,938
- Then let me know
when I can finish.
732
00:22:53,005 --> 00:22:54,039
- I have to--
I have to--
733
00:22:54,106 --> 00:22:55,140
- Well, you just
talk over everyone.
734
00:22:55,808 --> 00:22:57,076
Let someone else speak.
735
00:22:57,142 --> 00:22:57,977
- You're talking-- you're
sitting here screaming.
736
00:22:58,043 --> 00:22:58,978
This has been the whole season.
737
00:22:59,044 --> 00:23:00,312
- OK, what do you want to say?
738
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,847
- I was making
a point to Kenny,
739
00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:05,851
saying, wow, your girlfriend is
committing hard to right now.
740
00:23:05,918 --> 00:23:07,886
And don't fuck around.
741
00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:09,855
That's me taking
Whitney's side.
742
00:23:09,922 --> 00:23:12,524
That's me taking
the perspective of the female
743
00:23:12,591 --> 00:23:15,628
to say, as you're looking
around, talking about--
744
00:23:15,694 --> 00:23:16,829
and your friends
are saying that you
745
00:23:16,896 --> 00:23:19,665
are a fuckboy,
like, my response
746
00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:21,166
is don't fuck around on her.
747
00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:23,235
She just moved across
the country for you.
748
00:23:23,302 --> 00:23:27,473
I'm literally being a girl's
girl to you, Whitney.
749
00:23:27,539 --> 00:23:28,974
That's what happened.
750
00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:30,809
And if you can't
understand that,
751
00:23:30,876 --> 00:23:33,979
that's because you have
a very different mindset
752
00:23:34,046 --> 00:23:35,648
as a male in this world.
753
00:23:35,714 --> 00:23:37,750
- OK, but can I
just say something?
754
00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:39,918
It didn't seem to land
with her that you were--
755
00:23:39,985 --> 00:23:41,053
- No, because--
756
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:41,920
- I feel like if you're
a girl's girl,
757
00:23:41,987 --> 00:23:43,088
you would pull me aside--
758
00:23:43,155 --> 00:23:43,889
- --she wasn't
in that conversation.
759
00:23:43,956 --> 00:23:45,090
- I understand.
760
00:23:46,525 --> 00:23:47,793
But I just asked her what she
thought when she watched it.
761
00:23:47,860 --> 00:23:49,795
And she's saying that she
didn't take it that way.
762
00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:51,230
- Well, you know,
me and Whitney
763
00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:52,431
are very different people.
764
00:23:52,498 --> 00:23:54,700
- Kenny, Amanda from
Arizona on Threads
765
00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:56,869
said, how you going to go off
on Lindsay when you straight
766
00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:58,504
up told Kyle you
were questioning
767
00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:01,840
if there were sparks with
Whitney in the first episode?
768
00:24:01,907 --> 00:24:03,876
Lindsay has you clocked.
769
00:24:03,942 --> 00:24:05,344
- We spoke about
the fact that I had
770
00:24:05,411 --> 00:24:06,512
had an 11-year relationship.
771
00:24:06,578 --> 00:24:07,479
I had an eight-year
relationship.
772
00:24:07,546 --> 00:24:08,647
I had just lost my mom.
773
00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:10,816
And I was in this
place where I was
774
00:24:10,883 --> 00:24:15,154
feeling numb to long-term
things working out.
775
00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:16,555
Like, I just wasn't
feeling the spark when
776
00:24:16,622 --> 00:24:19,224
it comes to, like, long term.
777
00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:20,459
- OK.
778
00:24:20,526 --> 00:24:21,593
- And of course, it's
unfortunate that--
779
00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:22,895
- You were scared.
780
00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,364
- I was grieving and I
was trying to, like--
781
00:24:25,431 --> 00:24:26,765
and be in the moment.
782
00:24:26,832 --> 00:24:28,767
But I was having, like,
these doubts about long term,
783
00:24:28,834 --> 00:24:29,868
in general.
784
00:24:29,935 --> 00:24:31,970
And I said, I think
it's a me thing,
785
00:24:32,037 --> 00:24:33,472
and I have to figure that out.
786
00:24:33,539 --> 00:24:35,507
- So Whitney, having watched
the conversation where
787
00:24:35,574 --> 00:24:38,410
Kenny's concerns about your
future as a couple, did they--
788
00:24:38,477 --> 00:24:40,346
how did they land with you?
789
00:24:40,412 --> 00:24:43,282
- I had figured, like, when
Lexi and Georgina, like,
790
00:24:43,349 --> 00:24:46,018
brought this, that I was
in disbelief about it
791
00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:47,886
because we had had
these conversations.
792
00:24:47,953 --> 00:24:51,123
But the words obviously,
like, started ruminating,
793
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:52,624
like, oh, my gosh,
like, the weight
794
00:24:52,691 --> 00:24:53,892
of this move and whatever.
795
00:24:53,959 --> 00:24:56,228
And you see me get upset
because the last thing
796
00:24:56,295 --> 00:24:58,530
I want to do is, like, miss
something in a relationship.
797
00:24:58,597 --> 00:24:59,965
But all I had to do
was go talk to him
798
00:25:00,032 --> 00:25:01,367
and, like, be reassured--
799
00:25:01,433 --> 00:25:02,801
- If I can stand up
for my boy for a second--
800
00:25:02,868 --> 00:25:03,836
- --the feelings
in the relationship.
801
00:25:03,902 --> 00:25:04,970
- And with a little bit of--
802
00:25:05,037 --> 00:25:06,205
- Are you sure you
want to do that?
803
00:25:06,271 --> 00:25:07,606
- I think you were,
off the bat, defensive.
804
00:25:07,673 --> 00:25:08,607
- Yes.
805
00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:09,675
And I should be.
806
00:25:09,742 --> 00:25:11,310
- And just as--
learn from Amanda.
807
00:25:11,377 --> 00:25:13,045
She just sat-- she just sat
here and said she wishes
808
00:25:13,112 --> 00:25:14,146
she weren't as defensive.
809
00:25:14,213 --> 00:25:15,748
- Yeah, a lot of times,
I feel like you
810
00:25:15,814 --> 00:25:16,749
were lacking explanation.
- That would have helped.
811
00:25:16,815 --> 00:25:17,983
- That's the thing.
812
00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:19,218
That's why I said that
you haven't been--
813
00:25:19,284 --> 00:25:20,319
- If you had just owned
it, less defensive.
814
00:25:20,386 --> 00:25:21,787
- --accountable
on a lot of things.
815
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:22,521
- No, but I don't think he
was questioning the future.
816
00:25:22,588 --> 00:25:23,922
- No, but it's not--
817
00:25:25,357 --> 00:25:26,392
- I think he was questioning,
hey, like, I love her, but--
818
00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:27,593
- But he said their future--
- Yeah.
819
00:25:27,659 --> 00:25:29,028
- There's a-- you
know, am I at 100%?
820
00:25:29,094 --> 00:25:30,863
And I was-- and I was
identifying with--
821
00:25:30,929 --> 00:25:32,464
- I've been
unsuccessful before.
822
00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:33,699
- Yeah.
- Repeatedly.
823
00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:34,700
- But nobody--
- And I just lost my mom.
824
00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:35,901
- Nobody's judging.
825
00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:37,136
- Why is that so hard
to understand?
826
00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,637
- Nobody's judging.
827
00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:39,571
We're reacting to the words
that came out of his mouth.
828
00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:40,939
- All right, I'm moving on.
829
00:25:41,006 --> 00:25:42,174
Gavin, Jennifer F on email,
"I couldn't believe
830
00:25:43,308 --> 00:25:44,543
when you called Whitney
boring to her face."
831
00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:47,212
- I said the spark
comment, to be very clear.
832
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:50,616
- Now that I know that you said
it, it sounds all perfect, bro.
833
00:25:50,682 --> 00:25:52,651
But like, just perfect?
834
00:25:52,718 --> 00:25:54,420
That's kind of boring.
835
00:25:54,486 --> 00:25:56,688
- "What is it about Kenny
and Whitney's relationship
836
00:25:56,755 --> 00:25:58,056
that felt boring to you?
837
00:25:58,123 --> 00:26:00,592
They're still together,
so it can't be that boring."
838
00:26:00,659 --> 00:26:04,596
- I didn't directly call
her boring or vanilla.
839
00:26:04,663 --> 00:26:07,466
I said that
their relationship is boring.
840
00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:08,700
- No, you did.
841
00:26:08,767 --> 00:26:10,202
You said it at me,
not the relationship.
842
00:26:10,269 --> 00:26:11,703
- You said she was boring.
- Because I feel like again--
843
00:26:11,770 --> 00:26:12,905
- It read--
844
00:26:12,971 --> 00:26:14,306
- --they're just trying
to project, again,
845
00:26:14,373 --> 00:26:16,175
not being honest with
themselves and being like,
846
00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:17,176
hey, we're in love.
847
00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:18,444
You moved across country.
848
00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:19,445
We're still figuring it out.
Done.
849
00:26:19,511 --> 00:26:20,446
That's it.
850
00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:21,647
Everything would
have been fine.
851
00:26:22,815 --> 00:26:23,515
- She has a tutorial
on how to make toast.
852
00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:25,017
- That would be so easy.
853
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:26,985
- Jason P emailed, "Do you
agree with Whitney's take that
854
00:26:27,052 --> 00:26:30,122
Gavin is only used to crazy
toxic relationships
855
00:26:30,189 --> 00:26:32,658
and seeing you miserable?"
856
00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:33,659
- Yeah.
857
00:26:33,725 --> 00:26:34,760
- Think before you answer.
858
00:26:34,827 --> 00:26:36,495
- I think part of the--
859
00:26:36,562 --> 00:26:39,665
I think part of it
was that Gavin
860
00:26:39,731 --> 00:26:41,800
has been in these cycles
of relationships that
861
00:26:41,867 --> 00:26:43,302
are very volatile and toxic.
862
00:26:43,368 --> 00:26:44,303
I have been--
863
00:26:44,369 --> 00:26:45,370
- He's really passionate.
864
00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:46,738
- Yeah.
865
00:26:46,805 --> 00:26:48,540
And I have been in those
relationships in the past, too.
866
00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:51,043
What I love about this
relationship is that it's not.
867
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:52,044
It's very grounding.
868
00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:53,145
It feels very safe.
869
00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:54,680
Like, we're
in a really good place.
870
00:26:54,746 --> 00:26:56,381
And I think that that
might come across
871
00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:58,217
to boring as some
people, but for me,
872
00:26:58,283 --> 00:26:59,818
it's like, it's regulating.
873
00:26:59,885 --> 00:27:00,819
It feels good.
874
00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:02,421
Like, we're very
happy about it,
875
00:27:02,488 --> 00:27:05,124
and I just don't think he fully
can like, understand that.
876
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:06,258
- Do you dislike Whitney?
877
00:27:06,325 --> 00:27:07,759
- I love Whitney.
- You do?
878
00:27:07,826 --> 00:27:09,128
- Yes.
879
00:27:09,194 --> 00:27:10,896
It just annoys me that they
said their relationship
880
00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:12,865
is all travel and excitement.
881
00:27:12,931 --> 00:27:14,833
That sounds like a honeymoon
phase, which is great.
882
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:16,101
- It's much more
than that, obviously.
883
00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:18,337
- Now be honest with
everyone and yourselves
884
00:27:18,403 --> 00:27:19,705
that you're still
working on things.
885
00:27:19,771 --> 00:27:20,772
- It's so much more than that.
- That's fine.
886
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:21,773
- It's so much more than that.
887
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,175
- That's absolutely fine.
888
00:27:23,242 --> 00:27:25,777
- Whitney, Jasmine said,
on "Watch What Happens Live,"
889
00:27:25,844 --> 00:27:28,313
that the most fame
hungry contestant
890
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:31,216
from Bachelor Nation is you.
891
00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:33,185
- Who do you think was
solely in it for the fame?
892
00:27:33,252 --> 00:27:34,186
- Ooh.
893
00:27:34,253 --> 00:27:35,187
- Only one?
894
00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:36,688
- Only one?
895
00:27:36,755 --> 00:27:40,292
Um, I'll say Whitney,
who's on "The City."
896
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,293
- All right.
897
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:42,494
- Honestly, if you said that--
898
00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:43,795
- That's the most
bizarre thing ever.
899
00:27:43,862 --> 00:27:45,030
I like, didn't even go
far in "The Bachelor."
900
00:27:45,097 --> 00:27:46,098
I wasn't even shown.
901
00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:47,266
- Whitney, if you
just said you're
902
00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:48,767
with him to be
on reality TV, I would
903
00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:51,236
actually prefer that to saying
you're actually with him.
904
00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:52,304
- Are you kidding me?
905
00:27:52,371 --> 00:27:53,839
- At this point, yes.
906
00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:55,707
- Wait, the show was even a
thing when they were together.
907
00:27:55,774 --> 00:27:57,976
- We were together before
this was even an option.
908
00:27:58,043 --> 00:28:01,313
By the way, I said I
don't want to do it.
909
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:02,614
- Coming up--
910
00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:04,883
- I almost threw up
watching this last night
911
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:09,188
because it was so much worse
than as it was explained to me.
912
00:28:09,254 --> 00:28:12,157
[suspenseful music]
913
00:28:12,224 --> 00:28:16,361
♪ ♪
914
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,599
[tense music]
915
00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:22,067
♪ ♪
916
00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:24,469
- We were together before
this was even an option.
917
00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:26,371
And by the way, I said
I don't want to do it.
918
00:28:26,438 --> 00:28:28,574
- After watching everything,
we re-talked about it.
919
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,841
- They weren't even part of--
- Nasty.
920
00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:30,842
- --any of this.
921
00:28:30,909 --> 00:28:32,210
- I watched everything.
922
00:28:32,277 --> 00:28:34,012
- Guys, they've been
dating for a long ass time.
923
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:35,214
- Yeah.
924
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,216
- I can tell that
there is a genuine love
925
00:28:37,282 --> 00:28:39,151
and you guys have been
doing a lot of steps.
926
00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:41,486
So I absolutely
disagree with the fact
927
00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:43,555
that this is just
for-- for reality.
928
00:28:43,622 --> 00:28:45,390
- So how is the spark today?
929
00:28:45,457 --> 00:28:46,391
- Brighter than ever.
930
00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:47,859
- Yeah.
931
00:28:47,926 --> 00:28:51,730
Honestly, it's-- I think
it's-- we have such a good
932
00:28:51,797 --> 00:28:53,098
connection and I just
think we're in such
933
00:28:53,165 --> 00:28:54,833
a great place that--
934
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:56,401
- Why are you upset?
935
00:28:56,468 --> 00:28:58,670
- Well, it's just hurtful that
people think that I was like,
936
00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,138
on a show with Kenny for fame.
937
00:29:00,205 --> 00:29:01,139
- I don't think that.
938
00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:02,507
I just wish that were the case.
939
00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:03,675
- I've been accused
of the same thing for 10 years.
940
00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:04,910
- Why do you wish
that was the case?
941
00:29:04,977 --> 00:29:06,011
- Because I watched back
the whole show like,
942
00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:07,512
it's actually worse
than I thought.
943
00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:09,147
It's like, you want her
to be friends with everybody?
944
00:29:09,214 --> 00:29:10,248
- What are you talking about?
945
00:29:10,315 --> 00:29:11,583
- You're generalizing
something.
946
00:29:11,650 --> 00:29:13,285
- Let me finish talking,
Andy asked me a question.
947
00:29:13,352 --> 00:29:15,087
If you show up to a group
and you want your girlfriend
948
00:29:15,153 --> 00:29:16,555
to be friends with
everybody, you
949
00:29:16,622 --> 00:29:18,056
should be nice to everybody.
950
00:29:18,123 --> 00:29:19,424
You don't attack people.
951
00:29:19,491 --> 00:29:22,961
- And maybe this is
a moment for me to own it.
952
00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:25,764
But I felt like
the whole season,
953
00:29:25,831 --> 00:29:27,532
especially
in the beginning, I was
954
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:31,570
having to defend my
relationship, defend my spark,
955
00:29:31,637 --> 00:29:33,405
defend moving Whitney
across the country.
956
00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:36,208
I was in defense mode
to where I couldn't even enjoy
957
00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:37,643
hanging out with this group.
958
00:29:37,709 --> 00:29:40,112
And it clearly came
across to everyone else
959
00:29:40,178 --> 00:29:41,480
like I was attacking everyone.
960
00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:44,316
But for me, I know
what I said to Kyle.
961
00:29:44,383 --> 00:29:46,251
I know what I said to Whitney.
962
00:29:46,318 --> 00:29:47,486
I felt like I--
963
00:29:47,552 --> 00:29:49,021
it was all out there.
964
00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:51,823
But for some reason, I
was still having to defend
965
00:29:51,890 --> 00:29:53,225
somebody that I love.
966
00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:55,727
And we were in a great
place at that time and now,
967
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,730
and why am I having to defend
this relationship to everyone?
968
00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:02,267
- It was also really hurtful
to watch you talk about us
969
00:30:02,334 --> 00:30:03,535
and you didn't even know us.
970
00:30:03,602 --> 00:30:06,772
Like, I had just met
you guys a week before
971
00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:08,974
and your girlfriend
moves to New York.
972
00:30:09,041 --> 00:30:11,376
And the things that you're
saying to her, that Lindsay
973
00:30:11,443 --> 00:30:12,711
has minions--
974
00:30:12,778 --> 00:30:15,414
- Lindsay has her
girls, and her girls--
975
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,415
- Don't you mean the minions?
976
00:30:16,481 --> 00:30:17,416
- That's not minions.
977
00:30:17,482 --> 00:30:18,650
They're called fucking friends.
978
00:30:18,717 --> 00:30:20,085
- It's a mean
girl fucking crew.
979
00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:21,720
- Kenny's about to get--
980
00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:23,422
- And what does that mean?
981
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:24,890
Like, we're going
to gang up on her
982
00:30:24,956 --> 00:30:27,526
and not give her an opportunity
to be part of our group?
983
00:30:27,592 --> 00:30:28,994
We don't even know you.
984
00:30:29,061 --> 00:30:32,964
And it felt like you were
isolating her and creating,
985
00:30:33,031 --> 00:30:34,533
like, a nasty environment.
986
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:36,234
We are not opinions
or minions or whatever
987
00:30:36,301 --> 00:30:37,536
the fuck you guys were saying.
988
00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:39,237
- But Yvonne, you even
said when we hung out
989
00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:42,340
as the four of us,
it's OK that I'm
990
00:30:42,407 --> 00:30:45,110
hanging out with Danielle
because Lindsay's
991
00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:46,745
OK with Danielle.
- Lindsay approved.
992
00:30:46,812 --> 00:30:47,979
- I don't think
you guys realize,
993
00:30:48,046 --> 00:30:49,681
when there's something
that comes up,
994
00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:51,149
you don't think you're
having groupthink,
995
00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:54,386
but you're all having the same
opinion at the same time
996
00:30:54,453 --> 00:30:55,487
against one person.
997
00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:57,189
- Lindsay, Bella
from Colorado said,
998
00:30:57,255 --> 00:30:59,224
"You were upset with
Danielle with her comments
999
00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:01,293
about your last
couple relationships.
1000
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,861
But they were valid concerns.
1001
00:31:02,928 --> 00:31:05,831
It seems like you want friends
that are blindly loyal to you
1002
00:31:05,897 --> 00:31:07,866
instead of having friends
who share their true
1003
00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:09,501
concerns and opinions."
1004
00:31:09,568 --> 00:31:11,370
- No, that's
absolutely not true.
1005
00:31:11,436 --> 00:31:15,374
Yvonne is one of the biggest--
1006
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,476
you know, she is--
1007
00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:18,577
- Devil's advocate.
1008
00:31:18,643 --> 00:31:20,779
- --devil's advocate
always with me.
1009
00:31:20,846 --> 00:31:24,616
Georgina is certainly
highly opinionated.
1010
00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:26,351
I mean, even
for years, Danielle
1011
00:31:26,418 --> 00:31:27,953
has had a lot of opinions.
1012
00:31:28,019 --> 00:31:32,758
It's more about I think
there is a fine line when
1013
00:31:32,824 --> 00:31:35,494
big decisions are being
made in someone's life of,
1014
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,131
like, letting them figure
it out for themselves
1015
00:31:39,197 --> 00:31:42,434
or, you know,
really like, feeling
1016
00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:47,305
like you need to take charge
and take over, you know,
1017
00:31:47,372 --> 00:31:48,473
the decision.
1018
00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:49,908
I'm actually scared of my--
1019
00:31:49,975 --> 00:31:53,011
I'm the minion in all
of my friends, quite frankly.
1020
00:31:53,078 --> 00:31:55,213
- Lexi, do you think
Lindsay and her friends
1021
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,617
are a mean girl crew,
as Kenny put it?
1022
00:31:58,683 --> 00:32:00,318
- No, not at all.
1023
00:32:00,385 --> 00:32:04,389
I mean, I consider them
my good friends as well.
1024
00:32:04,456 --> 00:32:07,058
And I think, you
know, everybody's
1025
00:32:07,125 --> 00:32:09,027
allowed to have
their own opinion,
1026
00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:13,198
and it's great that they feel
like they can speak up and
1027
00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:16,802
share that and not feel like
they're being silenced or
1028
00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:17,903
being led by somebody.
1029
00:32:17,969 --> 00:32:20,172
- It is lonely on the outside.
1030
00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:23,442
The island that I found
myself on was terrible.
1031
00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:25,777
- I was the oldest girl
in the Summer House for years,
1032
00:32:25,844 --> 00:32:27,412
and I was
on an Island for about
1033
00:32:27,479 --> 00:32:29,481
five to six years in a row.
1034
00:32:29,548 --> 00:32:31,550
If anyone can understand,
it's me, and I'm OK.
1035
00:32:31,616 --> 00:32:34,352
- And I think what we do
in this situation is we hear,
1036
00:32:34,419 --> 00:32:35,353
we listen--
1037
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:36,421
- I'm just fucking tired of it.
1038
00:32:36,488 --> 00:32:37,622
- --and we learn.
1039
00:32:37,689 --> 00:32:39,624
So maybe from here
on out, when a question
1040
00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:42,594
isn't asked to one of you
three, not everyone is--
1041
00:32:42,661 --> 00:32:44,095
- Yeah, well, we
can't deal with that.
1042
00:32:44,162 --> 00:32:45,664
- Guys, even after
all of this--
1043
00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:50,035
- Like, in terms of this thing.
- I missed it.
1044
00:32:50,101 --> 00:32:51,670
- Of course.
- I don't deny it.
1045
00:32:51,736 --> 00:32:53,138
- What did you say?
- Did you black out?
1046
00:32:53,205 --> 00:32:56,074
- I was just saying,
maybe when we hear some--
1047
00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:59,211
when we learn from this
as people are feeling this way.
1048
00:32:59,277 --> 00:33:01,980
And maybe for the rest of the
evening, when one of you three
1049
00:33:02,047 --> 00:33:04,349
aren't asked a question,
not all of you
1050
00:33:04,416 --> 00:33:07,586
answer for that one person.
1051
00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:08,887
- I will apologize.
1052
00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:12,190
The word minion, I first
said it at guys' night.
1053
00:33:12,257 --> 00:33:13,892
It was not the best
word choice.
1054
00:33:13,959 --> 00:33:15,694
- It also felt like you
made up your mind about us
1055
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,629
before you even gave us a shot.
1056
00:33:17,696 --> 00:33:19,564
- Kyle, give him
the best advice.
1057
00:33:19,631 --> 00:33:21,766
When you apologize,
don't follow up with but
1058
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:23,502
and give an explanation.
1059
00:33:23,568 --> 00:33:25,136
Just say you're sorry
and then period.
1060
00:33:25,203 --> 00:33:26,137
- That's what I just said.
1061
00:33:26,204 --> 00:33:27,706
- From someone who learned.
1062
00:33:27,772 --> 00:33:29,140
And you are wearing yellow.
1063
00:33:29,207 --> 00:33:30,308
- Minion yellow.
1064
00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:31,343
- OK, very good.
1065
00:33:31,409 --> 00:33:32,711
- Looks good on you.
1066
00:33:32,777 --> 00:33:33,712
[laughter]
1067
00:33:33,778 --> 00:33:34,679
- You know it.
1068
00:33:34,746 --> 00:33:35,847
- I'm wearing pink, right?
1069
00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:37,015
[laughter]
1070
00:33:37,082 --> 00:33:39,451
- Kenny, I loved
the scene where
1071
00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:41,453
you reunited with your dad.
1072
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,454
- I can't believe it.
1073
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,024
[sobbing]
1074
00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:48,593
- Oh, my god.
1075
00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:50,695
- I mean, it was so moving.
1076
00:33:50,762 --> 00:33:55,000
That must have been
absolutely just mind blowing
1077
00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:58,904
that that happened so quickly.
1078
00:33:58,970 --> 00:34:03,742
- It honestly was
like, a very unexpected
1079
00:34:03,808 --> 00:34:05,143
situation, to be honest.
1080
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:08,013
Like, I'm still, like,
in a little bit of shock
1081
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:09,080
that we talk weekly.
1082
00:34:09,147 --> 00:34:10,081
- You do?
1083
00:34:10,148 --> 00:34:11,149
You speak weekly?
1084
00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:12,284
- We talk weekly.
1085
00:34:12,350 --> 00:34:13,718
- Have you met
your half siblings yet?
1086
00:34:13,785 --> 00:34:15,453
- I've met some of them, yeah.
1087
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,956
- And you know,
Lindsey and Kenny,
1088
00:34:18,023 --> 00:34:19,958
you've talked about
this a lot and
1089
00:34:20,025 --> 00:34:25,897
about how your lives were
affected by the absence
1090
00:34:25,964 --> 00:34:26,898
of your parents.
1091
00:34:26,965 --> 00:34:28,567
I'm curious what
advice you have
1092
00:34:28,633 --> 00:34:32,537
for people who might be going
through a similar experience.
1093
00:34:32,604 --> 00:34:33,805
- Well, first, I
want to say, like,
1094
00:34:33,872 --> 00:34:36,675
when I watched
that, I had chills,
1095
00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:39,778
and I was completely crying.
1096
00:34:39,844 --> 00:34:43,281
It was beautiful to see,
and I'm so happy for you.
1097
00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:45,750
Honestly, genuinely
warmed my heart for you
1098
00:34:45,817 --> 00:34:48,954
because I feel like
it was a missing
1099
00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:52,590
hole that you needed to be
filled that your dad was
1100
00:34:52,657 --> 00:34:53,925
able to fill.
1101
00:34:53,992 --> 00:34:58,363
I think Kenny and I have
very different situations.
1102
00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:02,033
His dad, his
stepmom, were looking
1103
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,835
for him, searching for him.
1104
00:35:03,902 --> 00:35:05,437
Mine knows where to find me.
1105
00:35:05,503 --> 00:35:07,038
She has my number.
1106
00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:09,007
She chooses not to.
1107
00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:11,977
And that's kind of been
the case my entire life.
1108
00:35:12,043 --> 00:35:14,079
So I think it's
a little bit different.
1109
00:35:14,145 --> 00:35:17,315
I had to spend years
and years in therapy
1110
00:35:17,382 --> 00:35:19,517
to work through those
abandonment issues.
1111
00:35:19,584 --> 00:35:21,186
It's never going
to go away for me.
1112
00:35:21,252 --> 00:35:26,458
It's more about how I
recognize it, react to it,
1113
00:35:26,524 --> 00:35:30,462
communicate it, and not
let it control me,
1114
00:35:30,528 --> 00:35:35,634
and it's just therapy
and practice and experience.
1115
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:38,336
- I was really
moved hearing you
1116
00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:41,873
tell Kenny how what you
went through with your mom
1117
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:44,242
has impacted the mom that
you want to be with Gemma.
1118
00:35:44,309 --> 00:35:46,711
I thought that was
so amazing that you're
1119
00:35:46,778 --> 00:35:49,080
trying to break that.
1120
00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:51,750
- Yeah, the interesting part
is I don't actually have to try
1121
00:35:51,816 --> 00:35:53,485
that hard to break the cycle.
1122
00:35:53,551 --> 00:35:54,619
- Right.
1123
00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:57,789
- It is innate
inside of me and how
1124
00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:01,259
I've always been wanting
to show up as a mom to Gemma,
1125
00:36:01,326 --> 00:36:06,598
and you, obviously, as a parent
and Georgina as a mom,
1126
00:36:06,664 --> 00:36:09,768
like, we all, like,
just try to do
1127
00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:14,105
the best that we can
to show unconditional love
1128
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,007
at all times, you know?
1129
00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:19,611
And I think that's all that,
like, kids need is like,
1130
00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:22,247
they just need to be kids,
and they need to be loved.
1131
00:36:22,313 --> 00:36:25,917
And that's not
that hard to give.
1132
00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:27,719
- Whitney, have you
noticed a change
1133
00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:31,523
in Kenny since he brought
his dad back into his life?
1134
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:35,660
- Yeah, I think it was
a huge weight lifted off him
1135
00:36:35,727 --> 00:36:37,228
that he didn't even
know was there,
1136
00:36:37,295 --> 00:36:39,497
and I think it brought
us a lot closer.
1137
00:36:39,564 --> 00:36:43,001
- Whitney, how do you see
your future with Kenny?
1138
00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:45,103
- I mean, we've had
a lot of conversations
1139
00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:50,542
even since the show,
and we've really talked about,
1140
00:36:50,608 --> 00:36:54,012
like, getting engaged this
year and taking next steps
1141
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:58,183
and being really
confident in that place.
1142
00:36:58,249 --> 00:37:00,752
So it's definitely a different
place than a few months ago.
1143
00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:04,089
- Coming up--
1144
00:37:04,155 --> 00:37:05,323
- Lindsey, you
collect apologies
1145
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:07,659
like you collect souls.
1146
00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:12,030
[audio logo]
1147
00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:12,964
[audio logo]
1148
00:37:13,031 --> 00:37:14,666
[music playing]
1149
00:37:14,732 --> 00:37:17,135
♪ ♪
1150
00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:19,304
- We are back with
the "In the City" reunion.
1151
00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:21,706
Clearly, this group
has baby fever.
1152
00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,975
Do you want kids someday?
1153
00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:25,543
- Definitely want kids.
1154
00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:26,678
Kids soon, yeah.
1155
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:32,717
- Maybe minion Martin.
- --one.
1156
00:37:32,784 --> 00:37:34,052
- Maybe minion Martin.
1157
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:35,587
Baby minion Martin.
1158
00:37:35,653 --> 00:37:37,889
- Well, while Lindsey
was betting on herself
1159
00:37:37,956 --> 00:37:40,058
in the New York
City dating scene,
1160
00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:43,361
accusations that she was
playing the single mom card
1161
00:37:43,428 --> 00:37:47,866
had a few people here dealing
out insults and accusations.
1162
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:48,867
Take a look.
1163
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:50,201
- We're taking the primary.
1164
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,338
- Yeah, because we're two
moms that have not been
1165
00:37:53,404 --> 00:37:54,739
away from our kids in a while.
1166
00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:57,575
- She always plays
the single mom card.
1167
00:37:57,642 --> 00:38:00,712
And I'm like, OK, you can't
use that excuse for everything.
1168
00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:03,014
- You use the word
single mom card.
1169
00:38:03,081 --> 00:38:04,749
- She's kind of above
everyone else.
1170
00:38:04,816 --> 00:38:09,454
Everyone bows down to Lindsay,
and I'm sick of watching it.
1171
00:38:09,521 --> 00:38:11,656
- OK, I want to see
how the single mom card
1172
00:38:11,723 --> 00:38:13,591
comment landed with the group.
1173
00:38:13,658 --> 00:38:15,560
Whitney, what
made you go there,
1174
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:18,263
and do you regret
that choice of words?
1175
00:38:18,329 --> 00:38:22,100
- I am really sorry
that I used that term,
1176
00:38:22,167 --> 00:38:25,203
and even watching
it back, I feel
1177
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:27,238
like that was far
from the point
1178
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:28,740
that I was trying
to get across.
1179
00:38:28,806 --> 00:38:30,975
Like, I respect you
both as single mothers,
1180
00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:32,710
and I see how hard
you work to give
1181
00:38:32,777 --> 00:38:35,246
your kids the life that
you do and how you really
1182
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,048
are there for them physically.
1183
00:38:37,115 --> 00:38:39,984
And I don't want
to disregard that.
1184
00:38:40,051 --> 00:38:42,787
And I'm sorry that you felt
a type of way from that comment
1185
00:38:42,854 --> 00:38:45,356
because I was really trying
to get the point across
1186
00:38:45,423 --> 00:38:49,194
of standing up for Yvonne
and your friendship
1187
00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:51,229
with just the gesture
to kind of, like,
1188
00:38:51,296 --> 00:38:53,765
do something
to help repair going
1189
00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:56,835
into our Friendsgiving weekend.
1190
00:38:56,901 --> 00:39:00,738
And I think that it totally
took a different direction.
1191
00:39:00,805 --> 00:39:02,907
So I just want
to apologize that you
1192
00:39:02,974 --> 00:39:05,577
took it the way that you did
and it came across that way.
1193
00:39:05,643 --> 00:39:08,613
- And not only did you say
she uses a single mom card,
1194
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,284
but how could she when she
has a nanny and she has help?
1195
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:16,454
The double down is
what made it worse.
1196
00:39:16,521 --> 00:39:17,956
I almost threw up
watching this last night--
1197
00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:19,123
- The part.
1198
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:21,626
- --because it was
so much worse than
1199
00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:23,661
as it was explained to me.
1200
00:39:23,728 --> 00:39:26,831
It was so bad, Whitney,
that you doubled down.
1201
00:39:26,898 --> 00:39:30,068
And it wasn't like, oh,
I'm defending Yvonne.
1202
00:39:30,134 --> 00:39:32,770
Like, you had conviction
when you said that.
1203
00:39:32,837 --> 00:39:34,305
- It was the--
- And like--
1204
00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:36,140
- It was when you said there
are plenty of mothers who
1205
00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:38,343
are single mothers
who don't have help
1206
00:39:38,409 --> 00:39:40,612
and don't have someone around
and don't have this and that.
1207
00:39:40,678 --> 00:39:42,447
And I'm like, OK,
what's the next part?
1208
00:39:42,513 --> 00:39:44,215
They can't hang out with
their friends either?
1209
00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:47,051
I mean, I appreciate
the gesture of the apology,
1210
00:39:47,118 --> 00:39:49,721
but like, I don't think
you didn't really mean it,
1211
00:39:49,787 --> 00:39:50,922
you know?
1212
00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:53,591
Like, I think you
were annoyed that we
1213
00:39:53,658 --> 00:39:55,093
took the room because we
said we were moms
1214
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:56,327
and we needed a break.
1215
00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,129
And Kenny, if you wanted
to do that gesture,
1216
00:39:58,196 --> 00:39:59,364
she's your co-host.
1217
00:39:59,430 --> 00:40:00,899
You should have
talked to her and
1218
00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:02,500
said, hey, why don't we give
Lindsey and Yvonne the room--
1219
00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:03,668
- Vice versa.
1220
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:06,004
- There's also two
other large rooms.
1221
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:07,272
- Usually, when
you get to a house,
1222
00:40:07,338 --> 00:40:09,007
you say, OK, what
are we going to do?
1223
00:40:09,073 --> 00:40:10,475
- That's not what happened.
1224
00:40:10,541 --> 00:40:14,779
You literally suggested it
in public in front of everyone.
1225
00:40:14,846 --> 00:40:16,648
- So it was my--
it was my fault.
1226
00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:21,386
- --just because of how much
we messed up your wedding.
1227
00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:22,387
- Totally.
1228
00:40:22,453 --> 00:40:23,821
But either way--
1229
00:40:23,888 --> 00:40:25,290
- It was coming
from a good place.
1230
00:40:25,356 --> 00:40:28,026
- Whitney, can you
name any other instance
1231
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:32,630
where Lindsey played
the mom card besides when
1232
00:40:32,697 --> 00:40:36,200
she said she and Georgina
were taking the primary rooms
1233
00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:38,770
because they were moms
who haven't been away
1234
00:40:38,836 --> 00:40:40,672
from their kids in a while?
1235
00:40:40,738 --> 00:40:45,410
- I misspoke when I said
that you've used that.
1236
00:40:45,476 --> 00:40:49,280
It was more coming from I
felt like you have been in--
1237
00:40:49,347 --> 00:40:51,282
I've witnessed these
different situations
1238
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:52,617
where you feel like
you're a little more
1239
00:40:52,684 --> 00:40:54,319
deserving than other people.
And I--
1240
00:40:54,385 --> 00:40:55,586
- So when else
have I complained
1241
00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:58,389
to you about being a mom?
1242
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,425
- She just said it was
more about entitlement.
1243
00:41:00,491 --> 00:41:01,726
- It was more
about entitlement,
1244
00:41:01,793 --> 00:41:02,860
and it was not about that.
1245
00:41:02,927 --> 00:41:04,195
- So I haven't.
1246
00:41:04,262 --> 00:41:05,930
- She just clarified.
- I just said that.
1247
00:41:05,997 --> 00:41:07,265
- OK.
1248
00:41:07,332 --> 00:41:09,434
You know cried about what
you said for six months,
1249
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:11,536
and the only time I didn't
fucking cry about it
1250
00:41:11,602 --> 00:41:12,937
was when you had a scandal.
1251
00:41:13,004 --> 00:41:15,173
So thank you, Amanda,
for taking me out of that
1252
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,975
because it was so hurtful.
1253
00:41:17,041 --> 00:41:22,380
The reason I have a nanny is
because I have to work while
1254
00:41:22,447 --> 00:41:24,482
you complain about
your boyfriend
1255
00:41:24,549 --> 00:41:29,320
not paying for a $30,000 closet
in his apartment all season.
1256
00:41:29,387 --> 00:41:32,390
I'm providing
for women, and you
1257
00:41:32,457 --> 00:41:36,661
are depending on your boyfriend
to provide for your lifestyle.
1258
00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:39,030
That's why it's very hurtful.
1259
00:41:39,097 --> 00:41:42,533
- But I came out here just now,
and I apologized for it, and--
1260
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,868
- OK, well, you're
going to need
1261
00:41:43,935 --> 00:41:48,072
15 more apologies to any
mom in the entire world.
1262
00:41:48,139 --> 00:41:49,574
- It wasn't about that.
1263
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,343
I'm sorry that it came out
that way, but it was a--
1264
00:41:52,410 --> 00:41:53,578
- Really poor choice of words.
1265
00:41:53,644 --> 00:41:54,712
- Lindsey, you
collect apologies
1266
00:41:54,779 --> 00:41:56,080
like you collect souls.
1267
00:42:00,585 --> 00:42:03,521
- Coming up in part two
of the "In the City" reunion--
1268
00:42:03,588 --> 00:42:05,390
- Personally, I think I was,
like, very close to someone
1269
00:42:05,456 --> 00:42:06,858
on a dance floor, and--
1270
00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:08,126
- Your lips touched.
1271
00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:10,495
- --we'll hear from
the moms and the boys.
1272
00:42:10,561 --> 00:42:11,496
- Boys night.
1273
00:42:11,562 --> 00:42:12,797
Boys-- the boys.
1274
00:42:12,864 --> 00:42:13,798
- Men.
1275
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:15,066
- No.
1276
00:42:15,133 --> 00:42:16,401
I'll call you a man
when you act like one.
1277
00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:18,469
- Regarding the information
that you found out,
1278
00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:21,739
Kyle had had sex with someone
while you were married, when
1279
00:42:21,806 --> 00:42:22,907
did you find that out?
1280
00:42:22,974 --> 00:42:24,876
- Recently.
1281
00:42:24,942 --> 00:42:28,212
- The city doesn't sleep,
and the drama doesn't rest.
1282
00:42:28,279 --> 00:42:29,313
- Your mouth is on her neck.
1283
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:30,381
And I said, who is that girl?
1284
00:42:30,448 --> 00:42:31,616
You said, I don't know.
1285
00:42:31,682 --> 00:42:33,151
- I'm not trying
to do anything shady.
1286
00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:35,119
- Kyle, come on.
1287
00:42:35,186 --> 00:42:39,390
- The dramatic conclusion
of the "In the City" reunion.
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